Kate calls Vivica "Viv." Well, isn't she just one of the girls! She claims the drama in the boardroom made her tense up. For someone who has made a career out of surrounding herself with drama and a half, she sure claims to hate it a lot. She should stop doing things she hates.
Ian has figured out that if he keeps going back to the boardroom, he increases his chances of getting fired. Oh, no, he's dumb, too. Sheesh, that's the sort of stupid comment I'd expect from somebody like doofus over there.
The crab fisherman is smarter than most and has done the calculations and figured out they all made it to the halfway point. Shawn is shocked she made it this far. Me, too. And that attitude is why Shawn is an Olympic dud. She's far too negative and a real wuss. I've never seen an Olympian act this pathetic on a reality show. Successful people are not shocked to make it to the halfway point or even to win, because step one of success is believing they should win. If Shawn doesn't even believe she should be halfway there, she has no chance of ever winning. At least Jonas brother, tool that he was, believed he should be there. Even when he was fired he still believed he should have won.
I haven't said much about the credits but they have always been top notch on this show. I love the heavy saturation and clarity. Leeza is adorable. Some of the montages are really artful, like Jamie's snow and Brandi throwing vodka out of a glass or whatever, which if you know the Real Housewives show you would know how perfect that is for Brandi.
The great Joan Rivers is a Trump adviser! I heart her. Or hearted. :(
They're in the showroom of the Ivanka collection. Whatever Ivanka touches turns to gold, Trump explains, she's a perfect child. I don't find his parental bragging obnoxious because it's true, Ivanka is phenomenal. She's so beautiful, so classy, and so intelligent. She develops things as effortlessly as putting cheese spread on crackers and they are a success. And she's a 90210 super fan in her spare time. I wonder why no one here is "just jealous" of a woman so perfect. They're going to create a marketing event to promote Ivanka's shoes for Nordstrom and their campaign "Power Up." I love Nordstrom! The fact that they have teamed up with Ivanka speaks volumes about the quality of Ivanka's products. She ain't no Kathy Lee.
Crab fisherman is a little disconcerted, all the tasks have been so women-oriented he can't find his penis in the morning. He says this. Kate shushes him, as she is a paragon of virtue. After all she has eight kids she is the role model for, and that comment was inappropriate. Kate totally seems like one of those women who can't stand words like penis and vagina and still call them pee-pee and cha-cha because she has never grown up.
Shawn puts her gymnastics skills to good use by bending over backwards to avoid PM. Shawn doesn't know anything about this, she insists. What does she know about? The most she's ever done for her team is complain about her period and invoke her good sense of balance to scale a wall to hang something. Vivica is like whatever, I'll do it, I've done it before and Shawn needs to step up (and I'm still bitter about her insinuation I'm menopausal), but whatever. I like Vivica. I never expected to dislike Shawn this much. Step up already, even Kate has stepped up. Sheesh!
Ha-ha, Kenya is going to be PM for the other team! Oh, this is going to be tough, Trump says. And good, I predict. Leeza needs to step up and soon but since she pulls her weight so much on every task I'll forgive it. And this is where Shawn's strategy is going to backfire because it could very well be her and Leeza as PMs next task and she has no business going up against Leeza, she'll be done for if she does. Stupid.
Kenya has a brilliant idea to use a piano.
Kenya puts Brandi on this, so she can blame Brandi when it goes wrong. Leeza doesn't like it, it's too old school Nordstrom and they're supposed to be targeting younger women. Again though she really isn't that forceful about trying to take her team in a different, and better direction.
Over at team Vortex, Kate's all gregarious again this fine morning because for some reason Geraldo brings out the best in her. She loves everything about his ideas so much she can't help herself interrupting him to tell him how great he is. Geraldo is similarly amazed by how wonderful and amazing he is. Color me surprised two narcissists would get along so swimmingly.
Oh, no, they put Kate on interior decorating. Have they seen her Christmas tree?
Shawn sucks but at least she throws out some decent ideas on most tasks, including this one. Kate throws out nothing this time but is vigorously taking notes again in an oh-so-helpful manner. You know in case they forget all this. Even Vivica is like I don't get Shawn, she has good ideas but refuses to step up as PM. By the way Shawn explained earlier her strategy is avoidance. That's fine for the first several tasks but you can't do that the whole show! Avoidance is a great strategy to get you into the thick of it, but as Crab fisherman explained we're halfway there now. Avoidance will backfire on you and big time if you try to use that tactic in the second half. You have to step up in the second half, there's just no way around it. And frankly you're better to do it as soon as possible when there are still weak players left as good options to fire. With a team as decent as this one and some duds still over on the other team, Shawn should have just gone for it on this task, now or never.
Commercials! My favorite timelapses are back, with an awesome skyline morning shot and some fun street shots.
Team Vortex gets to their mobile truck for their set up and yowser, it's tiny! Like only two or three people can comfortably be in there tiny. Lorenzo wisely suggests setting up things outside. Geraldo suggests a coffee bar outside. Well, that's good.
Shawn and Kate are dismayed at this change in plan. Dismayed. Well, but they're off in some fabric store where all good PMs send their most useless contestants. Shawn and Kate can't see the set up to realize how small it is. You have to trust your team that the set up is too small to go with their original plan of couches or whatever. Vivica is trying to explain to the doofuses that the setup ... is .. .too .... small .... for .... their ..... original ..... game plan .... to ....work. They're not getting it of course. They already cut and paid for the fabric. Whatever, Vivica says, scrap it.
Kate's shocked. Shocked!
Shawn says Vivica is "sinking" their entire team. What the hell? No, Vivica is saving it. How difficult is this to understand? They came up with a nice concept with couches that suddenly didn't work because the space was smaller than one of those popular tiny houses. Vivica quickly changed course to an outdoor coffee bar. They're going to have to eat it on the 500 bucks, who cares.
Vivica's just had enough of Shawn being so contrary and hangs up. Story of our lives folks, because of some other circumstance, Shawn just driving Vivica and viewers bonkers, Kate's gonna skate by. I feel it coming and I'm prepared.
I really love the Apprentice editors, they are the best reality T.V. editors in the business. They must have loads of fun in those editing bays. They play sort of "dopety-dough" type music I would call it, sort of a little tuba, you know the kind of music that lets you know the current subject in front of you is an idiot. Kenya is puttering around in their tiny house pointing out where things will go, spliced in with shots of Leeza looking really skeptical. Lol. Leeza doesn't think they have a cohesive concept, which incidentally was their problem on Cosmopolitan, too. Uh-oh, Brandi is worried about this too.
Kenya think the team knows she's the strongest player creatively. Hehe, well what she dreams up about what others think of her is creative that's for sure. Kenya says this is about Brandi being bothered by Kenya's intelligence and creativity. Eh, no, it's about Brandi being worried they don't have a cohesive concept.
Haha, there's so much tension now on Kate's team between Vivica and Shawn and also Vivica and Kate, because Kate has sort of aligned herself with Shawn and is doing negative body language like crossing her arms and looking at the tiny house with scorn. This is wonderful. No more "Vivs" for you, doofus.
Kate doesn't get the concept of shoes and a coffee shop. Of course she doesn't, she was asked to get something within a matter of minutes, and that's far too much for her. Kate and Shawn go off to another room to stuff their faces and lament how much Vivica sucks. Lol. I think all this is about is Kate and Shawn both being so damn immature that they can't stand the fact that Shawn's brilliant concept of couches had to be scrapped. Everyone liked Shawn's idea. Until they saw the space. Turns out, the space was too small. Shawn's idea had to be eighty-sixed because it wouldn't work. It had to be. It's not personal, girls. Now go finish your gyros.
Commercials again. Another lovely rainy morning in New York. That sucks though, since a lot of things are going to be outside. They didn't think to check the weather report? Kate should have checked the weather and pointed that out if she wanted to get what she wanted. Dolt. That said, a rainy day is perfect to attract people who want hot drinks, so maybe this will work out after all.
Kenya's spending large amounts of time on the chandelier and piano. Everyone else is scrambling unwrapping shoes, hanging mirrors, wiping things off, etc. I wish I had a broom, Leeza says. Why don't you ask Kate, she surely has one. Leeza is not above crouching down and scrubbing floors with a paper towel. I wish I had a project manager, Brandi quips, which ends up being the title of this episode. Heh.
Ha, Lorenzo thinks it's a great day for coffee, too. Aw. My new fav team member.
Kate is still going on about how do shoes relate to coffee. I don't think that's that weird. Pop-up coffee shops are everywhere now, including department stores, grocery stores, drug stores. But Kate insists this is the most bizarre thing she's ever heard. When your assistant/bodyguard/nanny is always the one fetching your coffee for you, you can easily get out of touch with coffeeshops these days. The one thing I think Kate's right about however is that they have all the shoes inside the tiny house and no shoes outside. There needs to be some kind of flow and transition from the outdoor cafe inside to the tiny house, tying it all together with the shoes. In other words, some shoes should be outside to draw you inside. But does Kate articulate this to her team and insist they make this relatively minor change? Of course not, unless it was edited out. She'll just put it in her pocket and save that one to throw Vivica under the bus in the boardroom later. Classic Krieder.
Promptly at eleven people start pouring in, getting their coffee and checking out the shoes. People seem to like it. There's even a line. Sounds like the concept is working. The legend Joan Rivers stops by, grabs a coffee, checks out the tiny house and, aww, says they actually did a great job. She loves it. You know, the idea Kate and Shawn hated. Ha, Joan Rivers calls Geraldo "my cookie." That's great.
Over on Kenya's team, they're doing shots and massages. Lol, and that's the Real Housewife vision of this concept. Leeza and Kenya show Joan around and Leeza is surprised that Leeza is actually sort of feeling their concept now, it's grooving. Hey, a few drinks does tend to get things going. Joan likes their set-up too, and wants to know if Leeza has those particular shoes in a "Six Bunion." Haha! Joan, you are greatly missed.
Ivanka shows up and Brandi advises her to watch her head on the chandelier inside. Watch her head? Sure enough inside the tiny house the chandelier is hanging about five and a half feet off the ground. It's eye level with Kenya. That's hysterical. Everything looks even smaller as a result, like the way some little people modify their houses so everything is two feet lower. Good idea, Kenya, hang it right about the level you would hang a pinata at a six-year-old's birthday party, that's where that should go, perfect! If there was one thing I did not quite anticipate coming into this show is that there would actually be as big or bigger idiots than Kate among the fleet.
Ivanka gives the chandelier, which practically blocks some of the people she is talking to from her view, a sort of "hmmm, interesting choice of decor" look. Which is a classy woman's way of saying what in the f--ckity f--- is that? Kenya doesn't see how she could possibly lose.
Over on Kate's team, Lorezno takes over trying to sell their concept to Ivanka. He does a great job and should step up as PM soon, but their set-up really is lacking that transition from coffee to shoes. It seems to me a lot of people are just there for the coffee and are skipping the shoes. That can't be good. Ivanka steps into the tiny house and Kate manages to explain the set-up well enough with help from Ivanka who prompts her with questions. There's that thick PA accent back again, the 9-5 shoe is in "vaa-rious" places in the tiny house. Hehe.
Well, Vivica is just as confident as Kenya is in her team that Vivica's team won. Whenever she is project manager they always seem to make a mad dash for the finish line! Hehe, you mean that one time before when you were PM? Yes there is a definite pattern here.
Boardroom time! Trump praises Joan for a bit, calling her a champion, which is a nice tribute. If you haven't seen Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work, make sure that you do. In my review of this fine documentary for the blog I said it was "full of all kinds of layers and insight into the world of celebrity, women entertainers, groundbreaking comedy, workaholics, and the self-absorbed." Worth your time.
Kenya feels they really nailed it and admits even Brandi did a good job. Aw, I love a good make up. Of course she takes credit for Brandi shaping up, claiming she worked a bit of magic on her. Lol, ladies and gentleman we have another narcissist in our midst. Brandi thinks Kenya did well, but to me that just sounds like Brandi being diplomatic because she's not stupid and has a good feeling they've won so there's no use trashing Kenya right now. This reconciliation is so epic Geraldo suggests sending them to the Middle East. Heh. Leeza however was underwhelmed, she thought Kenya was disorganized. I agree with that and I'm not surprised a journalist would notice that since organization is paramount to the profession. From what we've seen Kenya flutters around blurting out random ideas and then chasing after them full throttle, not really seeming to have a clear plan of attack for the big picture. She also tends to get married to ideas really fast and never lets them go, even bad ones, which is generally not a good thing to do in most business scenarios. You can tell who has taken any kind of business class or read some books and who hasn't, and Kenya hasn't.
Ivanka liked Kenya's "Power up your sole" slogan because it was playful and direct. Vivica's "I am ...." listing various attributes was kind of all over the place. Uh-oh.
Vivica pegs Shawn and Kate as the problem on the team, lol, of course they were. Kate was out doing her usual shopping when Vivica had to change up the concept, and they didn't like that and that caused problems. Wow, did Kate ever go from "Viv, girlfriend!" to Ms. Fox's "lack of leadership and delegation" in two shakes of a sheeple's tail. Although she's heavily coached, I hate to say it she does a good job turning this right back around and making her, and the doofus's next to her, total lack of energy, creativity and overall effectiveness into all Vivica's fault. Well played. Strangely, she does think they won. You know, like, despite the utter idiocy of everybody else on the team but her and doofus. She's such a bitch. And delusional.
Kate explains her contribution to the task was recognizing that Lady Ivanka would never stand for plastic flowers, and going out and getting both plastic and fresh so Vivica had the option of choosing the much better fresh. Baw-hahahaha, Vivica flat out mimics Kate under her breath, mouthing "I got plastic and fresh!" like a Valley Girl would. Haha, Vivica hates her. Why? There's so much more to this we never saw, and that makes me so sad. I wanna see!
Vivica's pissed now. She's like congratulations, resting-bitch-face, you brought us fresh flowers, but this was about the overall package on this task and I brought it, Trump. Ha. Blech, Ivanka begrudgingly has to admit that fake flowers would be a bad choice. I mean, I hate fake flowers but have you seen fake flowers these days? The good ones? I am telling you, you cannot tell the difference. They are amazing. Not your grandma's fake flowers. And an argument could be made that's better than wilting flowers by 3 p.m., I suppose. I can't believe Ivanka thinks fake flowers or real ones are that big of a deal on this task. I would have put money on her saying that had all but about 1% to do with my overall impression of your set-up. Sigh, now Kate's gonna be smug for days 'cause Ivanka backed her up. Doofus, purely by accident, hits a home run yet again.
Wow, Vivica starts crying as she very reluctantly admits that Shawn sucks and should have been PM. I get the sense everyone feels like Shawn is or was America's sweetheart and it feels wrong somehow to call her out for the doofus she is. Like attacking your own daughter or something.
Ivanka loved many things about Vivica's team, including the coffee shop (the one Kate and Shawn hated, in case you forgot), but something about the way she is setting this up tells me there is a big but coming and they lost. Sure enough she says they didn't emphasize the shoes enough. Even Joan chimes in to say the coffee shop idea was brilliant. Ha, suck it, Kate. All that whining over changing things to a coffee shop and turns out it's the one thing the advisers did like, hehe. As for Kenya's team the whole thing was totally off brand, Ivanka's like, stopping in the middle of the day for a foot massage is just strange. Lol, so true. This is interesting, sounds like they both had major flaws. Who will it be? I would have to bet Kenya, since at least she emphasized the brand. And the winner is? Kenya! But it was a hard decision, Ivanka admits. Her charity is Detroit Public Schools. That's a good one.
Oh, brother, back at the suite, Kenya wants to be crowned the greatest contestant of them all and is so overwhelmed she's having an out of body experience, lol. She couldn't be more obnoxious and over the top, but I like that she and Brandi were able to just get along and pull off a win.
Kate tries to pull with Vivica what she pulls on Twitter about her kids, you know telling us what they say and think and such. But this is the boardroom, not Twitter. Kate says something about how things were disorganized and how she had to tell Vivica to use her words. Like what you would say to a three-year-old? Use your words, Krissy baby, so Mommy can help you? Wow, what a patronizing hag. No wonder Vivica looks like she wants to punch her straight in that overly-lipsticked mouth. Kate says Vivica begged her to "rescue" her at one point. Vivica leans toward her like she's not sure she heard Kate right. She finally jumps in: Rescue me? Nope, hag, never said that. Bitch, don't put words in my mouth. She orders Kate to tell the story correctly! Lol! Kate's all stammering now. It's the big girls, Kate. You must have forgotten. Welcome back.
Much like naive is a nice way to call somebody stupid, "energy level" is a nice way to call somebody lazy, and Ivanka says Shawn's energy level just wasn't up to snuff. I never imagined an Olympian would have a problem with laziness on a show like this. It's simply never happened before.
Joan starts saying something and Trump gets bored as he often does when people talk for awhile and interrupts her to talk about how great she looks at her age and what a champ she is. Joan has bling on her finger the size of a new Duggar baby.
Vivica oh so very wisely brings back Kate and Shawn. Has Kate been in every single boardroom on every task her team lost on? Blog historian? I think so! LOL! Weirdo Geraldo says something about how this is just like sausage. Mmm, sausage. Everyone back in the suite says Shawn is toast. Nobody seems to think Kate is in danger.
When we come back, the editors have completely cut out the three women going back into the boardroom while the synthesizer drones on and the piano tinkers the usual ditty of impending firing, and they're already sitting there in front of Trump, which is fine since that is an unnecessary waste of time that I'd rather see spent on showing viewers the task itself.
Ivanka asks Vivica between the two of them, Shawn and Kate, who would be better to keep around, an asset. Lol, Shawn, Vivica says. For the complete dud that Shawn is, even for that wisecrack about menopause toward Vivica, she's still better than Kate. That's great. Only problem with this is that I think Trump is going to give Kate a few free points for having stepped up as PM before, and early. Shawn never has, and that's really bad in this situation. You can't play that game this late in the competition when it gets down to the wire like this if you don't have something else going for you, like Leeza or Lorenzo do. Another problem with never stepping up is you never win any money for your charity and risk going home empty handed. You wouldn't want to leave something like global warming to run amok all because you couldn't man up. You might as well jump into the fire sooner rather than later.
Kate's making so many faces even Trump has to chuckle at her. Oh wow, Vivica is pointing out what we pointed out, that Shawn isn't half bad on her own but gets influenced by some of the ladies. I.e. Kate making her and Jamie her minions. That's so spot on, Vivica. Exactly what I saw.
Interesting, Shawn explains she is well aware she has taken on sort of the minion role but was just playing a part. She's been well aware what some of these women were using her for all along. I did not expect her to say that. To what end she is playing this role however I don't quite understand. Why is Kate all nodding and mm-hmming when Shawn is explaining that she's basically been playing you this whole time? Lol, what a doofus!! Predictably though, the Trumps don't like that Shawn wasn't ever PM, and like that both Kate and Vivica have won as PM before. They leave out the fact that Kate won because of Brandi and Leeza, but I guess you can't start getting that far entrenched in the history when trying to sort this stuff out. Kate's bobbling away like a maniac trying to back up Shawn but Shawn's so done. By the way is it just me, but I seem to distinctly remember in prior seasons Trump saying definitively he cannot judge you on prior tasks, he can only judge you on what he has before him, on this particular task. So your history of doing great is irrelevant to the one screw-up currently. Unless I'm just making that up, that little rule he had seems to have let completely fall by the wayside since now both Kate and Vivica are getting all this credit for prior performances. Odd.
Due to other circumstances, like for the first time in the history of reality shows an Olympic contestant was lazy, Kate is not fired. Shawn, you're fired. This is so funny. Every time she skates by. Every time. Nine lives I tell ya.
I usually find the car rides home boring but I have to note that in the car ride home Shawn laments how she was only 22 and just getting out in the real world. Again Shawn, please read Malcolm Gladwell's David and Goliath or really anything by that brilliant man. It's simply not true that you are at some wild disadvantage just because you are young and inexperienced. You were going up against the likes of dolts like Kate and Jonas brother for pity sake. You're an Olympian! You've had more experience with the world, hard work, business and marketing than most 22-year-olds. Get a grip. At least Jonas brother never saw himself so negatively. He actually viewed his youth as an advantage. It's all about how you frame things for yourself. Yes he was fired early but I would rather go out owning it than get knocked out this way in some pathetic little heap. I worry for Shawn. Not just on this show but long term. She's never going to be an Olympic gymnast again, nobody is at her age. What's her life plan now? She needs to stop with the woe is me and get out there in the world, make a way for herself. Surely there are a myriad of ways to combine her professional athlete experience with a career. She's done a bit of sports announcing that went fine, but she strikes me as the type that will never be happy even with somebody else's dream career unless she's back on that balance beam. Shawn, it's over. Until you accept that you will always be this down in the dumps.
Back in the suite, Kate's pouting because she doesn't feel Shawn should have gone. Eh, yes she should have, if not Kate should have gone. Kate's just mad she lost somebody she can beat. Had to happen sometime. Vivica was never even close to being fired on this one, no way is Trump going to fire her when it was that close of a call and the PM really should have been Shawn but Vivica just stepped up because Shawn absolutely refused to take it. Poor schmoops lost both of her minions now and all that's left of the women are Leeza and three gals who hate her. Vivica's worried Kate, who is giving her immature bitch looks the whole time complete with a raised eyebrow of bitchiness, will be an even worse problem than before now that she's so pissed Vivica wasn't fired, which is probably a real fear. When even Geraldo, king of not getting over things, is telling you to get over it, that's bad.
It's the next morning, and, oh, good, crab fisherman will be happy this task is finally about nuts. They're going to make a viral video promoting single serve coffees from a local brand called Chock Full o' Nuts. Oh no, Celebrity Apprentice "viral videos" are rarely funny, interesting or worthy of going viral. Very cool, they're using GoPros. Trump is a rather sickening shade of yellow this morning.
Woo-hoo Leeza is finally PM, versus the beautiful Lorenzo. What a wonderful showdown! They are both perfect for this and might I say quite evenly matched. Nuts on.
I rarely think of my own ideas for these tasks, I'm not that much of a CA nerd, but I'm thinking since this is a GoPro they should take advantage of its capabilities. Maybe track down an extreme sports athlete, or someone who scales tall buildings without equipment or something, and figure out how to get that in their commercial. Just using a GoPro like a regular camera is uninteresting.
Instead Lorenzo goes in a rather boring direction of having Geraldo do a jingle rap. Geraldo says he's the only one here who drank this brand in the sixties. That's probably because he's the only one here old enough to drink coffee in the 60's. Schmoops here wasn't even born yet. But like everything about him, he just owns it, including his age. Kate suggests she and Vivica be his backup rappers. She's really excited she hit on this fantastic idea. This has the distinct feel of a brainstorming session for your group project on modern writers for 11th grade English class. The one where you did a super amazing and awesome Academy Award winning short film with your best friend's camcorder and a mic borrowed from their dad who used to have big dreams. The kind of video you look back on today and it's just not what you thought it was then, now it's mostly just cute. Kate's contribution to this is just basically like yeah, yeah, this is great, do this, do that! Lol, schmoops, calm down. Lorenzo is like sometimes Geraldo's ideas are great....annnnd, sometimes they're not. Hehe, I love him.
Leeza is predictably fantastic. She's got this all figured out how she will manage the various perosnalities. Ian really is cute. He called me up yesterday and he's like, I still love you. And I'm like, I'm just, I mean this is exhausting, you know? Like, we are never getting back together, like ever. Taylor Swift reference for Kate. Hey, why didn't she call up her BFF Taylor to donate? Kenya actually says they have four hours to do all this, is that accurate? That seems an absolutely insane amount of short time to shoot a video. Ian is his usual fruitcake self. You know he's being a fruitcake because the music is lighthearted and silly. Ian's idea is a gorilla climbing a building or something. I think the gorilla is a bit ambitious in four hours what with the permits and all but I think he has it right they have to do something extreme.
Leeza has a decent idea to leverage the skirmish between Kenya and Brandi and make their video about that. I think given the Real Housewives fans out there, that very well might work. It's as good of an idea as any.
Kenya finally explains that their little spat is about some comments Brandi made about her in the press. I don't know what those comments were about but sounds like Brandi being her typical self, blurting away and alienating folks as she goes. In fairness, Kenya makes comments in the press too, like saying that Steve and Kate shared a hotel room during the competition. Not that I have a problem with her doing that, she should say what she likes about a situation she was there for, but it seems kind of hypocritical to be upset at Brandi for what sounds like something similar.
The idea morphs into something I think is rather good, such that the video is going to show Brandi and Kenya cat fighting, and then show what a guy sees when he sees women going at it like that. Which I assume they mean something a bit more sexual. I can't picture Kate being on this team and having the foggiest grasp of this concept. It would be way too much for her to digest in only four hours. Good thing she's over on Vortex where they're just rapping.
Geraldo is happy to offer his endorsement of this coffee for free when normally he would charge millions for such a thing. He's such a generous man. Kate is off by herself getting her hair done in a June Cleaver style that looks like it's going to take hours. Good place to put her. We all know the pool girls and lawn boys, but did you know there are Ted Gibson girls? One of such girls came to do her hair, Kate explains. We may need to add one of those girls to our staff one of these days, she seems like she would fit right in. Ted Gibson seems like a nice guy for helping Kate out so much like this. Hey, who is going to do Vivica's hair? I thought she was in the video, too.
They finish filming some of the shots they need and now they're waiting on Kate. Just as expected this hair thing is taking forever. Vivica comes over in a similar manner to the shopping incident and is like okay schmoops let's get the show on the road here. Somebody had just said they have to film and edit this whole thing in one day. That's just nuts, chock full of 'em, and doing a whole fancy hair thing like this doesn't seem like the best use of time. Wow, Kate says people think Vivica is more capable than she actually is because she's always looking busy. Holy projection, batman! She, Kate, of course knows the truth about Vivica. Wow, Kate's a real bitch. I like the sort of alternate universe thing going on here where all the contestants the editors obviously don't mind you really liking end up as people Kate hates, and everybody Kate just loves are real dolts. Hehe. She's an actress, Kate mutters with scorn, chomping away on her gum. But you're a reality T.V. star! Lol! The way it's edited makes it look like Kate ignores Vivica when she tells her to hurry the hell up and asking her what the holdup is, which is pretty damn rude if that's the case. I have never seen such an utter lack of self-awareness. There's Kate, all relaxed, who can't believe that any of this would make Vivica so stressed out and raring to get this done. Yet that's all Kate does on her Kate Plus 8 show is act like that. Just watch the RV episodes. It's go here, go there, now, faster, if we pull up somewhere you are to disembark from the bus on my count, quick march! No potty breaks, no poopy breaks, no crying for your mommy!
Kate's is usually all stress and drama all the time. How can she not see this? At least Vivica is anxious to get going for charity.
If Kate needed such an elaborate hair and makeup thing, she should have been in the makeup chair at 5 a.m. like every other celebrity in the world. That's because this shit does always take forever so they stick you in there at 5 a.m. Or do a hairstyle that doesn't take so long. Simple.
Leeza and Ian are starting to butt heads a bit, as diplomatic as Leeza always tries to be. Ian thinks he has more experience than anyone, so it's an ego thing. I think his experience and Leeza's could compliment each other quite well but someone like him won't see it that way. Some hotdog scene they are doing staring Ian is taking forever as scenes tend to do when you're channeling Shakespeare. They butt heads some more. Kenya thinks Leeza needs to reel this shark in and get on with it.
Kate is finally done and the hairstyle is cool but hardly worth all the time they spent on it. Lorenzo is nice and says he likes Kate but they wasted a heck of a lot of time on the stupid hair and now he has to cut some shots, thanks to Kate. That sucks. Good job, doofus, another f-up is all thanks to you. Kate wants to do this and that shot but Lorezno, who understands the time thing when it comes to making a film, is like it simply is not possible under these time constraints, we're losing the light, etc., all things somebody who actually knows how to make a film would be realizing. She just got out of hair and makeup and they're already losing light, how long did that Gibson girl spend on this anyway and what time did doofus finally roll out of bed this morning?
I don't understand how the rap got transformed into Lassie without the dog but here they are.
Back at Leeza's team, I like Brandi's glasses, she is one of the few people who looks prettier with glasses than without. Somebody said Brandi has some odd angles and I agree. Catch her at the wrong angle and she looks so strange. I think it's her bone structure. But with the right angle she's really pretty.
Brandi's excited about this, she would love to beat the sh-- out of Kenya. Heh. The fight is, well, odd. They're kind of whipping their heads back and forth like a washing machine. Okay then.
Over on Lorenzo's team they have an hour and fifteen minutes to finish up the shoot. Oh no. Lorenzo scrambles to get their outdoor shots. He is a wonderful director, doing a good job explaining to the "talent" what to do. Oh, here's the rap. Or dance I guess. I get it now, sort of. Geraldo reminds me of Mr. Peanut from Planter's.
Kate more like a little Dutch girl, with apologies to Dutch girls.
They look like they all raided the family Halloween costume box and put on whatever struck a chord, like what we used to do at kids on a boring rainy afternoon. The whole thing is just as odd as the other team's video, but in fairness you can't throw together anything halfway decent under such ridiculous time constraints. These time constraints are over the top even for this show. Nobody is going to turn out anything but garbage under these conditions.
Geraldo is kind of struggling to get the rhythm right. It doesn't come to him as easy as his huge ego does. For a Latin, I'm surprised, Lorenzo says. Lol. Lorenzo must never be fired.
Lorenzo is not that impressed with crab fisherman, who tries to offer his two cents on some of the shots. Lorenzo thinks all crab fisherman does is put a metal cage in water and pull out crabs from it. I think that was a little harsh from my dear Lorenzo. Fishing the Bering Sea is one of the most dangerous things you can do. And he's not just a line fisherman, he is captain of a boat. That requires an incredible understanding of everything about the weather, the ocean, the huge machine you are at the helm of and all the computers that run it, and so forth. You are also responsible for the lives of those men, and those boats can and do go down and crews are killed if you don't understand what to do in an emergency or even if you do. And at least crab fisherman doesn't exploit any kids and if his reality T.V. series ended today and never came back, he'd still have his normal job and could just go back to normal life. I don't know, I think it's fair to say crab fisherman is probably a bit too quiet on this show and doesn't take the lead enough to see what he's capable of, but I would never, ever insult the work that he does on his boat like I freely make fun of Kate's silly "job" being a reality T.V. mom and D-lister. I still love you though, Lorenzo. I think crab fisherman has his first good point of the whole series other than his comments some time back about what a dolt Kate was. He says they use GoPros left and right on his show, he knows what he is doing with GoPros, and it really gives it a nice viral look. He is right and I said this from the beginning. They should use these GoPros the way they were intended. I don't know what that is, that's for them to figure out.
They are using the GoPros, both teams, like just a regular camera. The problem is this camera isn't designed for that. Use your iPhone camera if you want to just make a regular video. Look at some of the footage they have shown us so far. See how it looks so fish eye? That's because GoPros are a fisheye lens, made that way on purpose because that is the lens you usually want for sweeping, grand shots, a sense of scale, and intense movement. When you use fish eye just for regular shots it looks like something is wrong with your camera, either that or your nose is too big.
Leeza's team is filming the sexy part of the shoot. Brandi and Kenya roll around in a hotel bed while Johnny watches. Wow, I nearly forgot about Johnny. Yikes, I feel like he hasn't said a word in like three episodes. These tight edits can be hard on somebody quiet like him. I never got the lesbian thing for guys but I can sort of try to imagine why men might find this little scenario quite "interesting." I think Leeza is right that this isn't so racy the executives are going to be horrified. She is hopeful they struck a good balance.
Seeing Leeza up close I don't think she's had that much extensive work done, other than on her lips, which aren't even that bad. I'm not counting the odd nip and tuck, bit of botox, filler, here and there. For some reason her eyes get all squinty when she's out and about which gives the illusion she's had more surgery than I think she really has. When she interviews and is relaxed, they don't look like that at all.
Leeza's team is in the editing room and Ian's tackling their edit. It's stressful and taking forever. He doesn't want to hear from anybody else. Brandi thinks they're not branding enough. Ian is getting annoyed and kind of flips out on her. He just wants her to shush. I do wish Leeza would step up here and insist he knock it off.
I-an's name make sense because it's all about "I" to him, Brandi gripes.
Lorenzo takes on the edit for his team. He knows what he's doing here. Do Geraldo and Kate know they can take off their costumes now? Shoot's over. Surprisingly their little rap dance didn't turn out half bad when all is said and done. Lorenzo is such a nice guy and praises the whole team, even Kate.
Time to show the videos to the executives. Leeza's video turned out as they envisioned it. Johnny and Ian watch Brandi and Kenya have a bitch fight in the street, and soon they start seeing them doing sexy wrestling in the bedroom. Then they all enjoy coffee together in bed. This is actually really good for the time constraints, one of the best videos I've seen on Celebrity Apprentice. There is an added layer of goodness to it because Brandi and Kenya have a real life feud that many fans know about. I'm definitely surprised how well it turned out.
Lorenzo's video features Kate and Geraldo doing a retro breakfast with coffee and singing his jingle. Kate can sing on tune, wow I had no idea. They really highlight the branding so much better than the other team, but I think the last half of their video with the dancing in the streets is ultimately sort of pointless. Because the other team's video had a cohesive storyline that was funny and interesting, I think they will win despite maybe falling down about the branding.
Final boardroom of the night!
Trump's feeling especially bored tonight and can't even bother with complete sentences. Weak link, who?! he demands. Hehe. Brandi says Leeza has basically been defacto PM on every task, she's great. Leeza said they spun the feud between Brandi and Kenya into gold. Like Geraldo, this is just what successful people do.
Trump likes her form and presentation. Well, she has an Emmy. This sends Trump on a rant about how he cannot believe he lost when he was up for an Emmy. He walked out. Lol.
Kate starts puttering around about who is the weakest player and takes so long to say something Trump gets bored and moves on to ask Vivica. Well, Kate, of course, Vivica says. Kate lets out her usual sigh of shock and dismay. Vivica's like what? The damn hair took too long. Lol, she hates her. Hates her. I wonder if Kate came into this competition expecting no one to ever throw her under the bus. It's going to happen to almost everyone, why does she think she's above it?
Kenya was mad that during the filming Brandi kept making snide comments to her. Either I don't remember that or it was cut out or it didn't happen. Of course she gets in some backhanded slams at Brandi about how her husband left her for somebody younger and prettier. I really don't think LeeAnn is all that prettier and she can't be that much younger. Brandi and Kenya are both a piece of work.
Lorenzo's video had good branding but it was more like a commercial and not a viral video. As for Leeza's video it really nailed the "viral" aspect of it but the branding wasn't heavy enough, they missed the single serve coffee, but it wasn't even close Leeza's team wins it. I agree, it was a much better video. I'm not surprised Leeza has her own charity called Leeza's Care Connection. I know all about this from back in the day when my old employer was a friend of hers. If I'm not mistaken said employer went to an event or two about it. It's to support caregivers for the ailing, which hits home for me since my family is caring for my dad with Alzheimer's. Leeza too has a parent with Alzheimer's.
Vivica thought the other team's video was too racy. It's pointless to go on about the other team, they won. Vivica would fire Kate because they didn't get the shots they needed because Kate's stupid hair took forever. That hair was dumb. Nobody cares about the hair, it wouldn't have helped them win. Their weak story and concept was why they lost, not the hair. Kate says she is always focused on the details because the devil is in the details but that's just not the case usually. The devil is not in the details. It's not in the hair, the flowers, the heart-shaped cutting boards or the note taking. The devil is in the overall big picture. I cannot believe she is still sitting there with this sort of stupid viewpoint on the competition.
Sigh, it's always me, Kate says. Yeah, ever wonder why you're always the common denominator? I really can't stand the sort of "they always pick on me, I'm bullied" tone in her statement. Much like how she tries to paint the "haters" as just one day they all started to pick on little ole me, she is doing that here with Vivica. Just one day, out of the blue, Vivica decided she hates me! I don't get it, Mr. Trump! Little tear. Bitch, please. Kate is still trying to say that Vivica just appears busy but isn't doing actual work. Projection just dropped an anvil on Kate's head. Vivica is just sort of smiling in disbelief. Kate says in life Kate either does it or kills it. Well that's true, most things she tries she sucks at and they bite the dust in short order.
She moves stealth-like. Lol, what incredible spin. Stealth-like, lol. Edward Kenway is stealth-like. Not Kate.
I think Kate must have meant sloth-like. Malaprop.
Oh, now Kate wants Lorenzo fired. She was all about their concept, cheering and woo-hooing the whole time. Now the concept is shit? And yet she says ultimately Vivica should not be fired. Huh? Then what was the point of all that ranting but to drive a further wedge between them making it impossible to work with her on future tasks? What a doofus.
Poor Lorenzo is having the worst time trying to decide who will he bring back. He feels everyone pulled their weight. No they didn't! What?! Everyone in the suite is like no, Lo, don't do it. Bring somebody back! Anybody!
But Lorenzo has too much honor. He was PM, and he must bear full responsibility for the team. No, Captain, abandon ship, abandon ship! Jump now while you can! There's still time!
Here we go again!!! Due to some other circumstance, a celebrity just not willing to bring anybody back even terrible players, because their incredible honor and moral code commands them to fall on the sword if they were the leader even if a complete dolt is on their team, Kate isn't fired. If Kate had any honor, she would own their time constraints as being all her fault due to her hair, and suggest perhaps she should take the blame. But that will never happen.
Lorenzo, you're fired. Sob!!!! How is Kate still here????
Back in the boardroom the Trumps still can't get over Kenya making that snide remark to Brandi about the younger and beautiful woman. Lol, too funny. None of all this drama that just happened interests them as much as that bitch fight. Even the Trumps can't resist a good Housewife feud. Guess it can suck anyone in.
Aw, a nice little "In Memory of" thing to Joan at the end. Rest in peace, Joan Rivers.
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I wonder how many female viewers are having these same thoughts. And again with Leeza she'll never let it show. She has taken on this task with great determination, bringing all her resources to the table. They drama rolls right off. Honesty watching her work I feel like she truly is working to do her best, no other agenda.
As much as I cannot stand Trump, I hope Leeza was the winner.
I blame the wicked witch for Maddy so called brassiness she did learn from the best.
Luvo posted an interview they did with Vivica on their website.
http://luvoinc.com/celebrity-apprentice-vivica-a-fox/
I called it:
Had Team Infinity lost the challenge, which 2 team members would you have brought back to the boardroom with you and why?
Kate and Shawn for sure. Shawn for just being, you know, not being there and not being a team player. And Kate for taking 6 hours shopping and kind of checking out.
Not wanting to throw people under the bus is not equivalent to being a wet noodle. Personal ethics matter to some. Just because it's a competition does not mean that anyone needs to be "thrown under the bus." Not everyone is a win at all costs personality. I happen to respect that. Clearly, you don't.
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Hmmmm...clearly another drive-by with a penchant for creating a name to fit the context of the post and then stir the pot.
I think Sig doesn't get chosen for the boardroom is because he either contributes quietly, or if he isn't contributing he at least doesn't have an attitude the way TFW and Shawn do/did.
OT: just watched the last episode of American Horror Story Freak Show. It was pretty darn near as perfect a final episode as I have ever seen. Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Sarah Paulson. Acting tour de force! Love love love this anthology series, even with all the weirdness and murder and mayhem.
I had and still have no idea who Sig is but I kind of like the way he rolls with the whole thing and seems to have some fun with it. Nothing seems to ruffle his feathers.
Maybe he's the dark horse in the game.
"Lobsters are despicably ugly, but I don't like to kill anything so I was already mourning their death." - DOOFUS
What kind of sentence is this?
TFW vs lobsters? Where is PETA when you need them! I haven't see the episode but if does sound incredibly cruel.
Formerly - I'm glad things are going well with your pup.
I don't have to ask anyone if my dog has a soul. All I have to do is look in to his eyes and see the love there and I know.
Yes, chefsummer. Jon said recently that he is eating healthier, got a trainer AND quit smoking and I can tell he has lost some weight and his face looked much better. What I mean is healthier glow.
sKate can't say any of the things that I listed about Jon.
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I think, considering the Facebook comments, that many adults are uncomfortable and maybe this approach will backfire.
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I hope so. This reminds me of an episode of That Girl from ages ago. Ann Marie (played by Marlo Thomas) was an aspiring actress, and she would takes lots of different temp jobs. She got one job with a comedian where she played a waitress who made all kinds of smart-alec and sarcastic remarks in response to the comedian's jokes. The audience loved the wise-cracking waitress. One day, the comedian got sick, so Ann decided to play the comedian part and begged her boyfriend to play a smart-alec waiter. Well, even though the jokes were exactly the same, the audience hated it and got very angry because a man was verbally bullying a woman. It was all about perception and people not liking that the person they viewed as powerful was preying upon the person they saw as defenseless.
This is a similar situation now with Kate and Mady. For a long time, people somehow enjoyed the dynamic of seeing Kate (the woman) berating her easy-going husband (the man), until it got really ugly. If TLC tries to go the route of focusing on the conflict between Kate and Mady, I hope it does backfire and people will be disgusted watching the person with power bullying a child. Emphasis on "hope".
(Leslie)
I did not understand the second half of Geraldo coffee video when they were dancing in the streets. And when Geraldo was singing about millionaries went over my head too.
(Leslie)
Did Kate even think about how Maine is very well known for their lobsters. And I bet tons of their state income is from them. She is stupid to repeatedly blast lobsters during two episodes when they are visitors in Maine. I am surprised TLC didn't pick up on this. Oh, what am I saying...TLC doesn't give a darn.
(Leslie)
I think firing her will be the highlight of this season for him. lol!
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So many here say that they can't wait until Kate is fired. I think that Trump may praise her to no end when he fires her. Yup, he has done it to many others with his praise. Look at how he praised Gilbert. It was over the top; and Gilbert was not a good player either. I do believe that he make take it easy on her because he knows her 8 kids will be watching. I really hope I am wrong. I would love for him to blast and give her a great send off. And another reason why I think he may let her go easily is the way that he praises her in the media. That is a huge clue to me.
High in Sodium Content, thanks for the list of what people are saying about Mady. I am not surprised that mean things are said. Kate and the producers probably encourage her to act up. But I am appalled that most suggestions are to slap her or beat her. Yes, it seems to be Kate's preferred method of parenting. But have we gotten nowhere as a society? Mady does not need slapping or beating or shrieking. She needs outside therapy and she needs calm, consistent parenting and discipline. You can teach children, even teenagers, without beating them into submission.
Of course, maybe it's more a reflection of the demographic for Kate's show. They watch Kate and love Kate and don't think she ever abused her children. Colin ate an extra M&M, of course she beat the hell out of him. That kind of thinking.
(Leslie)
I think all the kids NEED conflict resolution counseling. It is just wrong the way they fight and fight over everything. And Kate is not guiding them at all. She literally closes the door and let's them have at it. All eight kids are too old to be doing this. And I do think the basis is all the fighting between Jon and Kate and then all the screaming Kate did/and does do to this day. Kids learn what they live.
Kate could easily hire a professional counselor to come into their home and work with them on this problem. And I think the problem is worse than we even see. Kate said so on the episode last night when she said that the drive to the Bath restaurant was horrible. Kate listed off all the fighting they all did in the auto. Wow! That is not normal at all. They are on a very beautiful vacation, traveling with all their favorite electronics in a very comfortable van, and they can't even be half way nice to each other. This needs to stop now. It is not normal or cute; it never was.
You know, given the kids attitudes, I'd say they aren't mature enough to handle the electronics they've been given. If she's so big on taking away things when they behave badly, why isn't she stepping up to the plate? Because that would be too much hands on parenting.
I haven't seen the episode just clips but frankly all those kids need therapy and Kate needs to take some child development and parenting classes. At least, that's my opinion.
Another awesome recap, Admin! Love your sense of humor. The recaps are so much better than the shows :)
The K8 series is beyond disturbing. Bitch, bitch, bitch and bitch some more. She does nothing but trash those kids publicly. Plymouth, MA to Bath, ME is 3.5-4 hours, not a fuckity-hundred. There may have been traffic, but still. Aren't these the same kids she said sailed through a 17 hour flight to AU? Whatever suits her purposes at the time.
TFW, here is a little tutorial:
DESPICABLY is how you treat your children.
(Leslie)
I did not understand the second half of Geraldo coffee video when they were dancing in the streets. And when Geraldo was singing about millionaries went over my head too.
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The commercial was awful and didn't come together as they thought it would. Now, interestingly, if they'd done what the winning team did- had a flashback or day dream- it could have worked if they started with present day and flashed back to the "good old days".
Kate's part especially didn't gel from the first half to the second half. If you didn't know, you would have missed her all together as Swiss Miss meets Heidi of the Mountains.
Sig Hansen is an amazing man. Read about him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sig_Hansen
He and some other captains refused to film over some contractual disagreements with Discovery, but they're still filming their 11th season, so I'm guessing the captains won that little pissing contest.
http://www.timesnews.net/article/9026620/three-deadliest-catch-captains-including-sig-hansen-quit-the-show-in-protest
He's been a captain since the age of 24 and has never lost a man. Their safety record is stellar. He also speaks fluent Norwegian.
I know he won't make it to the end and maybe he's not a cutthroat business type, but IMO he's got one hell of a work ethic.
Okay, I'm kinda in love with him. If you see it on the schedule, watch an episode or two. When I was in Alaska, I had the opportunity to go out on a crab vessel (not a real crabbing trip but for tourists) and I have to say, it is fascinating. I wonder if that's why he's on CA. Discovery paid to get him a gig so they could attract viewers.
And what has sKate done again? Oh, yeah, the 8 kids thing.
PJ
She's always been a volatile child, but instead of dealing with it and teaching her how to handle herself, TFMJG's response was to moan, complain and punish.
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And, I think Kate encourages and reinforces her behavior, especially on camera. It's painful to see and to know the struggles she'll most likely have if she tries that with other adults. I guess Kate sees nothing wrong with it since M is mirroring the very behavior Kate demonstrates every day - the attention seeking dramatics, the inappropriate comments, the need to be the center of attention, the snotty responses, etc.
Call Me Crazy, ITA. I predict failure if the producers and/or Kate believe that ramping up conflict between Kate and Mady is a winner for that TV show. Very uncomfortable for viewers who have teens and those who do not. Lots of viewers are going to change the channel. There's a line that's been crossed. It is not entertaining to watch these kids implode and it's not fair to do this publicly, particularly for Mady, who has always had issues that obviously have not been addressed. And then there's Cara who is totally withdrawn. So the million people that tune in are ok with this? Would they treat their family the same? What is being aired now is way worse than when she and Jon were married because at least Jon was the normal parent to balance Kate's hysteria and the kids were really innocent. It was a cute show until it wasn't.
All I can see is that these kids get conflicting signals from their mother. Sometimes she is strict and controlling, yet she allows them to settle disputes with yelling and hitting. It appears the winner of arguments in that household is who yells the loudest and who hits the hardest. That is Kate's method of parenting and her small legion of fans should be ashamed of themselves for patting Kate Gosselin on the back for this by describing her as more laid back. Freakin' unbelievable. Kate makes up rules, picks a child to enforce them, then sits back and lets the kids hit and yell. One word for that parenting: lazy.
Oh, and TFM. He's not an idiot. Anyone out think this guy has interest in raising these kids? Is there ANY guy out there interested in raising these kids other than Jon? Kate lives in a fantasy world if she thinks she will ever be Mrs. Neild. Her idea of a dating show is horrible because there would be a parade of men coming into the kids' lives (of course there would be filming of the kids' reactions) and everyone has figured out that Steve is her man, so what's the point other than to upset the kids and lie to the public that she is sincerely looking for Mr. Right.
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I had and still have no idea who Sig is but I kind of like the way he rolls with the whole thing and seems to have some fun with it. Nothing seems to ruffle his feathers.
Maybe he's the dark horse in the game.
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I used to watch Deadliest Catch faithfully. Sig is one of the captains (NorthWestern??), and if any of these washed up D-listers thinks he's a light weight, let them try doing what that man does for a living.
I'd last about as long as Kramer, "I'm OUT, Jerry!".
For those people criticizing a child (Mady)...remember...Children Live What They Learn.... .
If children live with criticism, they learn to condemn.
If children live with hostility, they learn to fight.
If children live with fear, they learn to be apprehensive.
If children live with pity, they learn to feel sorry for themselves.
If children live with ridicule, they learn to feel shy.
If children live with jealousy, they learn to feel envy.
If children live with shame, they learn to feel guilty.
If children live with encouragement, they learn confidence.
If children live with tolerance, they learn patience.
If children live with praise, they learn appreciation.
If children live with acceptance, they learn to love.
If children live with approval, they learn to like themselves.
If children live with recognition, they learn it is good to have a goal.
If children live with sharing, they learn generosity.
If children live with honesty, they learn truthfulness.
If children live with fairness, they learn justice.
If children live with kindness and consideration, they learn respect.
If children live with security, they learn to have faith in themselves and in those about them.
If children live with friendliness, they learn the world is a nice place in which to live.
Oh, Lord. I had forgotten that she beat Colin for eating that extra M&M for a treat for potty training. How has she dodged the general public for years by not getting a verbal or physical beat down out in public because of people watching the show and reading her journal how she has treated these babies for years is shocking.
I am not saying that I want this to happen to her at all, I really don't. It would devastate the kids and that would hurt them, because I know they love their mother. I know a lot of people ignore and shun her, but it still boggles the mind that she has sKated by for years for her behavior of the kids.
Speaking of the snacks that sKate took to the movies the other day, there is a Food Mart here, like a 7-11 where you can buy a 5 gal. bucket of popped popcorn for 5.99 at the first of the year and can refill it ALL YEAR for free, no limits. You can buy those paper popcorn bags at Dollar Tree and bag popcorn up and take it.
I could never afford to buy popcorn and drinks when paying for 3 kids and myself at the movies when they were young. I would pop some microwave popcorn bags and have yoo-hoo boxes and cold, canned drinks.
She would of not taken those kids to go to that movie if she didn't get free tickets. Then she takes snacks. Then she violated their privacy by taking a picture and broadcasting it to the world.
She's such a good mom. UGH!
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I've always loved that piece. It's timeless. Thank you for posting it.
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Call Me Crazy, ITA. I predict failure if the producers and/or Kate believe that ramping up conflict between Kate and Mady is a winner for that TV show.
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You are absolutely right! It was different when the conflict was between Jon and Kate, who are both adults. Mady is an adolescent, and this is the point where her self-esteem is developing. This could be devastating for her emotionally. She already seems to be on an emotional roller coaster. Cara seems to have checked out. Hannah is going to a be just like Kate. I saw the preview when they were fighting over bunk beds, and Hannah at the door, chomping gum with her mouth open--a little Kate, and she already has quite an attitude. Leah does, too, to a lesser extent, and Alexis seems to have to fight for anything she gets. She is definitely on the bottom of the pecking order, and she knows it. She seems very angry. Only the boys seem to be somewhat well adjusted. They band together for their own benefit, rather than battle over everything like the girls. Heaven help those kids (especially the girls) because they are growing up in a toxic environment, and it's being put out there for everyone to see and comment upon.
"Where can we watch it in Australia?"
"You don't want too"
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Has TLC not done enough damage to this family (and countless others) already? No question that Mady has been set up as Kate's foil since Jon is no longer available. All the adults involved in this production - Kate and TLC- are culpable in bringing out the worst in this bright young girl and exposing her to public ridicule for the sake of ratings and the almighty dollar. As we have been saying for years, this is not funny. This is not entertainment. This is a young life being destroyed by the very person who should be protecting her.
To me, the worst part of the Maine trip, was realizing that Kate has total control of Collin. What 10 year old boy says he is proud of his mother, and that the best part of the vacation was spending quality time with his family?
Sillimom, (#18), the reason TFW doesn't restrict the electronics is
because they help keep her children away from her. When you
liken your own daughter's voice to a siren -- and one of your
favorite daughters at that -- it is crystal clear you want peace
and quiet.
The M stuff is troubling. I remember an old J&K episode when
TFW said, "Don't ever give up on M." It was such a strange thing
to say about a little girl. Then she said M needed something like "wheelbarrowsful" of approval. Such an intimate insight to reveal
to millions of strangers -- and it's on the record forever. How in
the world was that appropriate?
Call Me Crazy, thumbs up from me for the "That Girl" reference.
And Tucker's Mom for the "Seinfeld" one. I'll see you, and raise
you one from "Mary Tyler Moore," that I'd like to offer as advice
to TFW. Ted is about to get married, and Lou is struggling to
say something helpful and kind to this person who is the
world's biggest buffoon. Lou finally says to Ted, "You know
how you always are? Don't be that way!"
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Well said. Amen.
Sounds like Collin was just parroting some lines.
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For those people criticizing a child (Mady)...remember...Children Live What They Learn.... .
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Amen to this.
Maddy is 14.
At this age young girls need love and understanding. She doesn't need to be bullied and vilified by internet strangers.
(Leslie)
Kate's part especially didn't gel from the first half to the second half. If you didn't know, you would have missed her all together as Swiss Miss meets Heidi of the Mountains.
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In the first part she was his wife. In the second part with the dancing, how did that even play into being his wife? Like I said I did not understand the millionaire sayings/singing or even the dancing other than the dancing brings it into this day and age. And why the tuxedo and hat? I feel like a dummy asking these questions.
And I think Lorenzo was stupid for not bringing in Kate for burning daylight and time when he wanted to take more photos. He could have said that Kate insisted on her hairdresser when the show provides one. And that he through Vivica did ask Kate to hurry it up and she did not. And he should have bought in Geraldo for having the whole concept idea that was a failure. He still may of still went home but at least it would have been worth a shot. I think it is just dumb to accept all the blame and not follow the rules of bringing two people back in the boardroom.
Mady has always been head strong and has always resented the younger kids. When they moved into the new house she was filmed kicking the crap out of one of the younger girls for going in her room. Kate just turns her head and does nothing. I still can't understand how Kate uprooted 6 kids from their rooms so Mady could have her own room. And of course the boys are now cellar dwellers.
(Leslie)
For those who don't know who Sig is, he is a great person and captain. I think it has been ten years that he has been filming Deadliest Catch. He is the most poplular captain on the program. And his brother and now his very young daughter are also on the show. I love the show and I have zero interest in fishing. I love the parts when the coast guard has to rescue somebody. His job is very stressfu. He is a very intelligent man with a ton of responsibilty as a captain in the Bering Sea. I am suprised and sad that he is not showcased more. But he is obviously playing the game well.
OUR hands? ARE busy?
@bitemeaholesFU: @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 @EmCr68 #TLC "COMING SOON! KATE & EMILY PLUS 16. " as they put together a compound of baby mills. Sry still 4 $$$
@EmCr68: @bitemeaholesFU @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 I think our hands are busy enough with the 8!! 😂
Call Me Crazy, thumbs up from me for the "That Girl" reference.
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Agree!!! Spot o-wwwwn!
I have to say that only time I ever felt sorry for TFW was at the New Zealand sky jump. That must have been torture for her. I couldn't believe she even thought about doing that jump
Once I saw what it was, I would have said thanks, but no can do. But she was so busy trying to show up her kids that she wasn't thinking clearly.
There's a difference between a fear of heights (you can't handle being in an airplane) and a fear of falling (you can't handle standing at the edge of a tall building or a cliff). Sounds like her fear is the fear of falling.
That being said, I wonder if there's a difference between being in a small boat close to the water (remember how she freaked about the rafting, also) and actually being in the water (remember the big smile as she walked out of the water in her wet suit).
animalabuseneverwins @bitemeaholesFU 8m8 minutes ago
@TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 @EmCr68 #TLC "COMING SOON! KATE & EMILY PLUS 16. " as they put together a compound of baby mills. Sry still 4 $$$
Emily Creighton
@EmCr68
@bitemeaholesFU @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 I think our hands are busy enough with the 8!! 😂
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Emily is speaking in the present tense. How odd.
I like that Sig guy.
Did you guys catch how he was laughing hysterically in the back of the van when Geraldo was doing a narcissistic monologue on purpose, trying to annoy Ian? Sig was laughing so hard he had to lay down in the back row.
Did you guys catch how he was laughing hysterically in the back of the van when Geraldo was doing a narcissistic monologue on purpose, trying to annoy Ian? Sig was laughing so hard he had to lay down in the back row.
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Yes hahaha! I think I even mentioned it in the recap. I like anyone with a good sense of humor.
Yep my memory was correct! Here it is:
Jonas already hates all Geraldo's ideas, some of which are not half bad. The crab fisherman can't figure out if Geraldo is serious about these ideas or is just doing it to annoy Jonas brother, he's in the back practically falling over from laughing so hard. I think it's so funny when people's feuds end up just being the butt of the joke to everyone else. People want so badly to "win" their little feuds when really nobody else cares and is just laughing at both of you actually.
Are we headed for a jury trial? I hope I'm reading this wrong.
@GosselinBook: In the United States District Court... http://t.co/vz440MdN1l @Kateplusmy8 @radar_online #SLAPP #CoverUpLiesAndAbuse http://t.co/KKozyONEQa
Jane said... 49
Are we headed for a jury trial? I hope I'm reading this wrong.
@GosselinBook: In the United States District Court... http://t.co/vz440MdN1l @Kateplusmy8 @radar_online #SLAPP #CoverUpLiesAndAbuse http://t.co/KKozyONEQa
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Hmmm.
I wonder what plaid attitudes Milo will tweet if this is true. Sorry Milo looks like your queen didn't win over the #hatebook.
I thought it was funny as they always show the Bus driving away but you cannot see who is driving it. The sheep assume that it is her but we all know it is Steve. How dumb do they think we are?
I feel sorry for Jon if the kids act like that when he has custody. Maybe they are better behaved with him.
I also cannot wait until the twins turn 16 and are driving and maybe are driving one of her two sports cars. Hey, why not? They are just sitting there as she can only drive one at a time.
This tweet is from one of the more virulent of the non-fans. She claims she has DMs from Emily and tweeted a few. Unless the actual DMs are seen, I don't know if this can be seen as reliable.
@organics2014: @radar_online I have 11 DM from @Kateplusmy8 fan girl/nanny revealing Steve affair and kids behavioral meds #jongosselin
New post on Roberts blog.
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/2015/01/in-united-states-district-court-for.html
Sketchy Gosselin said... 10
"Lobsters are despicably ugly, but I don't like to kill anything so I was already mourning their death." - DOOFUS
What kind of sentence is this?
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Hard to tell what she's saying. It kind of has a Goerge Dubya ring to it.
*George* not Goerge. ha! Instant karma.
I think Emily is relishing this insider position a little too much on
Twitter, and it will backfire on her. Even joking with the non-fan
about a Kate & Emily show -- we know TFW hates to share the
spotlight, and may not appreciate Emily's flip response that "our
hands are busy enough with the 8." This won't end well.
Yes, I remember Sig having to lay down because he was laughing so hard.
Just saw Hoda and Billy Bush show Lip Flip on Jimmy Fallon. Had never seen it. WOW, it is funny! They showed Jennifer Aniston and Jimmy doing it, very funny. Would love to see TFW, Lip Flipped!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 56 ...right on...Emily girl got a little carried away and admitted she cared for kids while Kate &Steve had "alone time" and she dispensed medication to all the kids. Also she wasn't paid for her time with K8. Is it legal for a fan to give out meds to 8 kids? More to the point, does Jon know what meds his kids are on and that a fan gave them their meds. Emily is in big trouble now with Kate, wonder if she signed a CN...I guess not if she's blabbing. Kate's TL is going to blow up today now ROL has been sent Emily's bragging tweets. Heads will rrrrooooollll LMAO Kate is going to go batshit crazy ...hhaha
I thought that TFMJG dropped her suit against Jon with prejudice, so that she can't file against him again, and yet he's named as a defendant in her demand for a jury trial. What gives, Admin?
She's still claiming Jon illegally copied her journal and gave it or the hard drive to Robert. If Robert does have, as he claims, photos of him finding the discs in the trash, would that result in a dismissal?
Jane said... 52
This tweet is from one of the more virulent of the non-fans. She claims she has DMs from Emily and tweeted a few. Unless the actual DMs are seen, I don't know if this can be seen as reliable.
@organics2014: @radar_online I have 11 DM from @Kateplusmy8 fan girl/nanny revealing Steve affair and kids behavioral meds #jongosselin
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It's really difficult for me to believe Em would send a non-fan 11 DMs filled with personal info about Kate, etc. Em did seem to admit she DMd this person trying to get them to stop tweeting though.
Between that and RH posting that legal doc on his blog I'm totally confused this morning.
Leslie, I wonder if maybe you aren't aware of the original Chock Full of Nuts jingle and commercial that's seared into the minds of anyone who grew up in the 50s and 60s? You can listen to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqHGuv_-DFA I believe the original lyric was "better coffee Rockefeller's money can't buy", but that didn't last long! Chock Full of Nuts was known as a very inexpensive brand and their stores, which were all over NYC, sold low-priced, very simple food at a counter. So the hypothesis was that even though one doesn't pay much for the product, it's as good as anything a millionaire would consume. Having eaten in many Chock Full of Nuts as a college student, the egg salad sandwiches were awesome!
Sue_Buddy said... 60
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It's really difficult for me to believe Em would send a non-fan 11 DMs filled with personal info about Kate, etc. Em did seem to admit she DMd this person trying to get them to stop tweeting though.
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Weird morning, eh? :) I'd think that if these are legit DMs and spill the kind of info the tweeter is alleging, that Radar would be all over this. Add this new lawsuit to the mix and Radar has headlines for days! Seriously, I do hope this lawsuit just disappears (which of course it won't). Jon would have to testify and it's just more angst for the kids.
Jury trial lawsuit dated Nov. 2013.
"ALONE TIME WITH STEVE"??? WHAT THE FUCK??!!
I have no idea what's going on this morning, but I think the docs Robert posted were from the original suit?
The Emily stuff is just weird. That would be poetic justice if using a fan for a free nanny turned out to uncover the smoking gun. LOL You get what you pay for.
PJ
It's official -- I don't know what the dilly is going on. Dwindle,
it may be time for us all to hold virtual hands in the dark!
I don't think that is a new lawsuit against Robert. Remember Kate filed an amended complaint against both Robert and Jon. Then she dismissed the suit against Jon. After she did that, she most likely filed an amended complaint against Robert alone, based on copyright violation, but later also dismissed it.
I think Robert posted the amended complaint just to show that Kate did admit that the journals were hers, because the suit spells it right out:
19. Defendant Hoffman directly copied substantial excerpts from
Plaintiff’s personal diaries.
20. Defendant Hoffman then distributed a book, Kate Gosselin How She Fooled the World, via the website amazon.com which contained the excerpts from Plaintiff’s personal diaries.
It's just like when he posted the letter that Laverne & Shirley sent to Amazon. He wants to show that Kate(and her lawyers) admitted that the journals he published did belong to Kate and both that letter and the amended complaint are his proof.
TLC stinks said... 63
Jury trial lawsuit dated Nov. 2013.
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Yep. When I first brought up the link he tweeted, the date was missing. I tweeted and asked him if doc was current, and just refreshed page and now the date is there. He might have seen my tweet. Thanks, RH. That clears up one confusion this morning.
Granny in Nebraska said... 51
I thought it was funny as they always show the Bus driving away but you cannot see who is driving it. The sheep assume that it is her but we all know it is Steve. How dumb do they think we are?
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When the group sat down for lunch in Bath, TFW says something like: that was a loooong ride.
Not, 'that was a looooong DRIVE' but a 'loooong ride'
Unless that is a Pennsylvania speech thing I'd say bitch wasn't doing the driving.
That Amended Complaint Robert posted was dated November 2013. It's not new, and I'm confused as to the point Robert was trying to make by posting it. *scratches head*
As for the alleged info-spilling DMs from Em? I call B.S. I think she has more class than that.
Those DMs have to be real....Do you here Emily denying it?? NOOOOO.....
The original tweeter of the Emily DMs did post a few but cut them off so it's only possible to read a few words. But as far as DMs go, they look like legit Twitter DMs.
Well, it will be interesting to see if those DM's are legit although I cannot imagine why on earth she would contact a hater rather than just going to the tabloids. ITA it would be poetic justice and one thing does ring true: Kate would justify not paying Emily because it was a free vacay for her plus she gets TV time. And we all know Kate likes her alone time with Steve anyway. As far as the Rx, that is possible but really if true, it does not seem to be working if it's not not depression or behavior. It's all just strange but I leave to go get my hair cut and come back to this. It would just be perfect that a fan outs Kate, especially after the steeple have bestowed Emily with compliments, LOL.
Maybe RH was just giving Gladys a shout-out after she mentioned
TFW rebounding from his "ridiculous #HateBook."
Geez....Kate's in Siberia...There's not one person who could have watched the kids? Does she have any friends or relatives left? She is so pathetic and isolated that she had to ask some creepy little twitter stranger to watch her kids...and now we know she's banging Steve...I hope she's happy! "ALONE TIME"....yikes!
If they're real, hope someone is making screen shots. If the non-fans account is suspended or deleted, what the non-fan has said will be gone, not that HER words a worth much. Need Em's DMs which she could have deleted by now. But for now the non-fans tweets are all that are available.
What a morning!
It's just too bad the the person who says they received the DMs has been so nasty in the past. He/she doesn't have a lot of credibility.
NJGal51 said... 11
TFW vs lobsters? Where is PETA when you need them! I haven't see the episode but if does sound incredibly cruel.
Formerly - I'm glad things are going well with your pup.
I don't have to ask anyone if my dog has a soul. All I have to do is look in to his eyes and see the love there and I know.
*******
How can any being who gives unconditional love to its human "owner" not have a soul? I'm in the group who does believe that animals, especially higher order animals, do have souls. Maybe a lobster doesn't - I don't really know about that.
My dad was in a serious car accident several years ago and does not walk too much. He spends most of every day in his favorite easy chair in the warm sitting room off the kitchen. And their cat Maggie sits in his lap almost all day long. He had a brief hospital stay last year and poor Maggie was so lonesome for him and didn't know what to do with herself. Now how can that animal not have a soul of some kind?
Formerly - so glad to hear your dog is doing better :)
I think those Emily DM's are legit. Here's a tweet from Emily:
@organics2014 @bitemeaholesFU @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 was just trying to kindly ask for it all to stop & to let u kno kids r in gr8 hands
Holy crap!!!!!
See this is why Kate should never, ever have befriended a fan. Emily can't contain herself. She has to tell someone.
Sara B
I think those DM's may be legit too. Emily answered a tweet she wasn't even included in.
Truther @nochanceofrain · 33m33 minutes ago
@Sassccha @ConcernedChick why speak to the cruelest Twitter person IMO
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 20m20 minutes ago
@nochanceofrain @Sassccha @ConcernedChick wish I knew that! Lol was just kindly asking 4 negatively to stop, now a story is bein spun. Sigh
This free parenting or should say non-parenting Kate is doing, with regards to fighting. Well, here in the Chicago area, they were 2 brothers, sister and mom. The 2 boys got into a fight over something, and before mom went to stop the fight, the 14 year old stab to death his 16 year old brother, then ran. The sister tried to save him it was too late. There is no mention of a father, only that there was one more kid living there. Kate is creating animosity among her kids, when she let's them fight it out among themselves. At their age, they hardly have the knowledge or tools to effectively resolve their differences. Kate give them no guidance. Animosity can & has escalated, into a child or teen or adult to pick up an object(which can be anything and hit or stab/ or shoot(go an get a gun) a brother or sister or even a parent in rage of/from a fight. it happens all the time, it happen Tuesday or Wednesday this week. One does not have to be on drugs either. Kate is too lazy, unwilling to supervise, intervene, interact or ref, or be judge to her kids fighting. POOR PARENTING. I would be ashamed by how they act.
Here is a food for thought: Could Mady be doing this anti-Kate mom teen drama, to show she can act? So , maybe TLC will give her, her own show? or the original Growing up Gosselin or K8: Twin Dilemma?
Admin, you're missing some good stuff.
PJ
Looks like Emily does that stupid thing with putting her tongue behind her upper teeth when she poses for the camera. Kind of interesting how she mimics TFW's facial expressions. Almost seems like she's worked on that. Very odd. Starting to feel like a dangerous obsession.
It's just too bad the the person who says they received the DMs has been so nasty in the past. He/she doesn't have a lot of credibility
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Then why send them to that person??? Maybe Em has been shunned in some way. Wonder if Kate made her sign a confidentiality agreement. This could back fire so badly on Kate.
And haters should no kids are well cared for by me when kate has alone time with Steve and I filled in gaps with meals playtime so please
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This is a fine mess Kate's gotten herself into.
Pass the cheeseplate over here please.
Wouldn't surprise me if the DMs are legit. And I don't think Emily is "too classy" to say such things. Just because she's young and pretty and well-off doesn't mean she has class. Her pursuit of "celebrities" would suggest otherwise.
We already knew that at least some of the kids were on medication. One of the nannies who talked stated that TFMJG would sometimes go away and take the kids meds with her so they couldn't take them when they should. This was a year or so ago that this was reported, I believe. Blog historian? A little help here, please? Thanks.
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 20m20 minutes ago
@nochanceofrain @Sassccha @ConcernedChick wish I knew that! Lol was just kindly asking 4 negatively to stop, now a story is bein spun. Sigh
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Whoa, almost a carbon copy of sKate's tweet about the millionaire boyfriend.
Emily is turning into a mini-sKate.
PJ
Does anyone know when the ratings for Tuesday's Kate plus 8 come out?
Less than 48 hours after the TLC special aired, Emily is already
mired in more controversy than she ever could've anticipated.
Once again proving TFW's reverse Midas touch.
Am I understanding Emily's tweets correctly?
In an effort to make khate sound like a good mom, she divulged that she administered prescription drugs to the kids and also provided khate with some alone time with the rat? This is what you get when you employ (or barter-trip in lieu of $) a CHILD. This girl does not have maturity, common sense and obviously discretion. You'd THINK that idiot would have learned her lesson as far as personal info getting out. She is truly a DOOFUS
Ok...who's gonna bet that there's much gnashing of teeth in the compound this am. STEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!!%^&**(@!!!
And I don't think Emily is "too classy" to say such things. Just because she's young and pretty and well-off doesn't mean she has class. Her pursuit of "celebrities" would suggest otherwise.
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I was thinking the same thing AuntiAnn. Indulged little rich kid? No filter?
She's a kid for God's sake! What a total ignoramus tfw is!
readerlady said... 87
I remember an article back when the kids were expelled that she said something about them having a medical issue too.
Kate must be spitting nails....how can she be this stupid? Oh well...the cats out of the bag...."ALONE TIME".....did I mention "ALONE TIME"? HA
Then why send them to that person??? Maybe Em has been shunned in some way. Wonder if Kate made her sign a confidentiality agreement. This could back fire so badly on Kate.
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Good question. If they're real, perhaps Emily isn't aware that non-fans reputation. If they're not real, well...figure it out. LOL
The more I read them, the more I'm beginning to think they're legit, although I'll always be mystified that Em sent them to that particular non-fan.
Whoa!!!
Sounds like Emily is admitting she spoke with that non fan.
And I agree I would not put it past her whatsoever to blab since she is so about the attention this brush with celebrity gives her.
I wonder if Steve is somehow supporting her...Lets face it..shes had hardly any work in the past 3 years...with her expenses, how long can that money last? God..she's a mess! This getting very sleazy..even for her!
You read through the tweets and partial messages from the tweeter and just the history we all know about Kate, Steve and kids issues and many things could be made up by the tweeter but still be true. If Emily did pass out meds, if she did watch kids when Steve and Kate went out....doesn't matter if the tweets say it or not. What matters is if she really did those things. Kate will know. Em will know.
This is the craziest thing I have seen unfold in a long time. Either way I would say its safe to say Em is in hot water with Kate.
JB
Now What????
Here's a video of kate saying the kids had medical issues if anyone was wondering if it was just a "source" in a tabloid. It is at about 1:42 'ish'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXp1EiYBoBQ
chefsummer #Leh said... 188
People need to leave Maddy alone she a child.
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I completely agree. As annoyed as I get about the bad behavior of M, and some of the girl tups, I fully put this back on TFW who insists they continue to film, knowing there will be comments based on what she chooses to film, knowing people will this observe on film. Which is her choice and not a good one at this juncture.
But in her greedy mind, the show MUST go on. No consideration for her kids, as long as they film and make $$$$$$$$$$$$. Not a great choice, but we are talking TFW.
It seems that Emily did DM with that tweeter. But the tweeter only showed part of a screenshot of Emily's DM's. She did tweet what supposedly was what Emily said, about the kids, Steve, etc. but she could have made some of that up and embellished what Emily said. I wouldn't put it past her, especially knowing what that tweeter has said in the past.
So all we really know is that Emily Dm'd with her. Until we see the full screenshots of that conversation, I not ready to believe that whole conversation.
And you know what's even funnier?
I think the barter WAS a nanny for a scene on the show. Way to shoot yourself in the foot numbskull! How many "not a nannies" over the years have never been filmed? You made fricken sure the rat wasn't in a any footage. Bahaha!
Typical. Should have "planned ahea" you ditz!
She wanted to be on the show, not be a nanny to the kids. How much older is she than the twins anyways?
The hater (this one IS a hater) she was DMing with is the former Cow person. Em, being young and naive, probably was fooled by the person's profile which says they are into health and organics or something. If she had read the person's timeline she would have seen the horrible tweets they have made about the kids (bipolar, acne, brat...). I believe EM id DM but did not say the stuff about Steve or medication or behaviour.
The hater claims EM Kate has been friends with fam for 5 years. Litchfield run wasnt that long ago was it?
It seems Em took offense that people were calling her "just a fan".
It is still very odd for a "celeb" to befriend a fan and her family that way. Very odd. I do believe it is true that EM did not get paid...she was used by K8
Hard lesson learned for Em today.
@Flimsy 90
Yes, so true.
I really think though if Em is a real fan, she's dealt with the non fans many times. I just think she believes she was coming to tfw's defense and now look what's happened!
Looking at the DM screen shots, I can only see the left side of the conversation.
I'd say Emily is toast.
LOL
(this is gonna be waaayyyy bigger than "WHO WOULD GIVE YOU GUM!!!)
And Kite, remember, don't 'default to drama'.
LOL
*dog update: well, she cried all night! No sleep for her or for me. We saw in the light of day she has a rectal prolapse, and is very constipated. Canned pumpkin recommended and saline compresses to rear. Vet's if worsens. She has this as a new pup and a few other times, part of her IBS. Oy! I could take care of a ward full of patients but one little dog is very difficult. But I love having her home.Thanks to all who commented.
Re: Collin. I noticed how quickly he agreed to the outfit TFW picked for him ( scripted maybe) when he said last special how he liked to pick his own 'dressy' clothes . The girls hissed and spat over theirs. It's like the spirit is being snuffed out of that boy.TG he has his brothers.
I di feel bad for Em. However her point that Kate did not have "just a fan" babysit is not valid because that's exactly what she did the first time they met at that race .
regardless if the tweets are entirely true or not...Kates not gonna be too happy about Emily talking about any of her experience...especially with a non fan..its obvious that Emily DID tweet this person..look out for flying dishes!! Please Kate,,just don't break the fine china..
Oh duped your poor dog! Poor you it's so hard seeing our pets suffer
I don't have time to read all of the comments, but would someone please give me the Sparknotes version of what happened with Emily and the Insane Cow person? We've know for quite awhile that Em is so far into Celebrity Worship that she can't keep her mouth shut. We know that the Cow person is totally crazy, vile, disgusting and cruel. Em is in it for Em, but what happened, and she's now saying OUR hands?
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 3h3 hours ago
@bitemeaholesFU @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 I think our hands are busy enough with the 8!! 😂
The hater claims EM Kate has been friends with fam for 5 years. Litchfield run wasnt that long ago was it?
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The Litchfield run was in June 2012. This is one of the tweets that Emily made at that time.
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 11 Jun 2012
Woke up this morning and for a split sec thought meeting
@Kateplusmy8 was just another dream. #imtrulyblessed! Have a gr8 day recooperating!
Like I said, I think the hater embellished what Emily said in her Dm's and also made stuff up.
know TFW hates to share the
spotlight, and may not appreciate Emily's flip response that "our hands are busy enough with the 8." This won't end well. 56
Unless Em really is planning to fund Katie on a trip to Paris. Then again, Katie has been known to bite off her nose to spite her face.
Kate is a twit said... 113
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Like I said, I think the hater embellished what Emily said in her Dm's and also made stuff up.
Why would she lie, though, knowing that Emily would be able to refute it all by producing the actual messages she sent? I honestly don't think Em is very bright. I personally won't be surprised if she dies her hair black and puts out a call on eBay looking for Bob Mackie gowns.
Blowing In The Wind said... 112
Em is in it for Em, but what happened, and she's now saying OUR hands?
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 3h3 hours ago
@bitemeaholesFU @TwitTartwif @Kateplusmy8 I think our hands are busy enough with the 8!!
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It's creepy. Gladys must be having a fit. Doesn't she call the kids 'ours', too? How many people have a stake in these kids, anyway? Wake up Kate! It's not flattering, it's dangerous you idiot.
It's not the first time Emily has called them 'our' kids, either.
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 May 9
@Kateplusmy8 our kiddies are 10 already?!? I must have blinked! Happy two digits to the greatest kids I know! ��them! pic.twitter.com/ErAYtbARPd
lifeelevated @organics2014 59m59 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 anyone have contact info for #jongosselin
Run, Jon, run as fast and as far away as you can!
I think the DMs are accurate. Em saw the tweets and made up some excuse for why she was talking to the hater. She never said the tweets were changed from what she had said. I would have expected either a forceful denial or complete silence if the DMs were grossly misrepresented.
As far as the 5 year comment it is likely that Em thinks she has been friends with TFW ever since she first started communicating with her. It is true she met TFW in person less than three years ago, but she believes they have been friends longer than that.
Of course Em could just be deliberately telling the hater lies, but what for? There was no mention of a specific place or time that TFW could later prove she never went to. The information is so vague as to be unverifiable. Even if it is a joke Em is trying to play it is going to make TFW look bad.
I hope Em wasn't planning on doing any more vacation specials with TFW. She's now on TFW's very long list of former friends who no longer has any use.
Kate is a twit said... 113
Like I said, I think the hater embellished what Emily said in her Dm's and also made stuff up.
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Thanks for clarifying. Some of the responses on twitter sounded insane : )
Why is Em twittering to the haters on Twitter? Doesn't make much sense to me??
Tee Hee it's not just us:
@zjfant: Does anyone else think that @Kateplusmy8 is just on @ApprenticeNBC for the free food? That seems to be all I see her doing during each task.
JR said... 110
regardless if the tweets are entirely true or not...Kates not gonna be too happy about Emily talking about any of her experience...especially with a non fan..its obvious that Emily DID tweet this person..look out for flying dishes!! Please Kate,,just don't break the fine china..
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first off, Kate doesn't have fine china. She has paper plates. LOL
and secondly, what appliance is going to get Kate's wrath? LOL
If Em did indeed say Kate needed alone time with Steve, this was the quickest 'friend implosion' detonated!! PA residents, batten down the hatches!
Ratings are in:
Kate Plus 8 TLC 9:00 PM 1.321 million viewers 0.5 share
Ratings from the first show:
Kate Plus 8 TLC 9:00 PM 1.795 million viewers 0.7 share
So the ratings went down after the first show, losing almost 500,000 viewers.
Tuesday cable ratings. Huge drop from last week. 1.3 million viewers and a 0.5 share. That's down half-a-million viewers from the first episode.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/
AuntieAnn (#117), even creepier, the night of the special Emily
tweeted "love my gossslin (sp) kiddies!" MY!
As far as Gladys is concerned, I imagine she'd be pleased as
punch if Emily imploded, so she could resume her spot as
TFW's beloved.
Ratings are in....
Jane said... 61
Leslie, I wonder if maybe you aren't aware of the original Chock Full of Nuts jingle and commercial that's seared into the minds of anyone who grew up in the 50s and 60s? You can listen to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqHGuv_-DFA I believe the original lyric was "better coffee Rockefeller's money can't buy", but that didn't last long!
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I remember the last line of the jingle as "you can buy it at your grocery store" - quite a come-down for a heavenly coffee, I thought. I couldn't find much reference to that version on the web. Though there apparently were two (or more, counting the Rockefeller / Millionairre / billionaire variations) versions. Both were sung by the wives of the founder of Chock Full o' Nuts. I think I'm remembering an earlier version.
Emily commented that her friends and family can't tell the difference between her and TFW sometimes, and she's flattered. (Paraphrasing)
It seems like she's made it a point to look just like Kate. Very odd.
Remember how Jamie was making it a point to look like Kate...same hairstyle, same clothing?
There's something very off about this.
Wow! That is a huge drop in the ratings! An even bigger drop than between last summer's specials. Ouch!
Mike B @119: I think the DMs are accurate. Em saw the tweets and made up some excuse for why she was talking to the hater. She never said the tweets were changed from what she had said. I would have expected either a forceful denial or complete silence if the DMs were grossly misrepresented.
As far as the 5 year comment it is likely that Em thinks she has been friends with TFW ever since she first started communicating with her. It is true she met TFW in person less than three years ago, but she believes they have been friends longer than that.
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I agree. I don't think that those were made up. I know that the non-fan is really "off," but it's also very clear that Emily is young, immature, totally a celebrity worshiper and very much into herself. There is no way she could have kept quiet about this because bragging is what she does. Just look at her timeline. It surprises me that Kate never saw this coming. For a young kid who has been "hired" by a celebrity, it's just too much for them to be responsible enough to remain mute on it and keep it private.
When I was involved in show production for a celebrity, something similar happened. Without going into details, all hell broke loose when a fan was befriended. Lessons were learned, and if Kate has any smarts at all, she should have realized this by now. This includes Milo. Kate gave her a shout out on national television, Milo saw this as being one of Kate's chosen, and look what has happened there.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16m 16 minutes ago
Something I've learned here >> No matter how carefully you choose your words, they'll always end up being twisted by others. @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 14m 14 minutes ago
Things are not always as they seem. Negativity will point people N the WRONG direction! Be POSITIVE & get headed the right way! @kateplusmy8
Like all the negative things you've said about Jon?
As far as the 5 year comment it is likely that Em thinks she has been friends with TFW ever since she first started communicating with her. It is true she met TFW in person less than three years ago, but she believes they have been friends longer than that.
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Maybe we have a young narcissist in the making.
tfw isn't the first and she's certainly not the last
This is a fine mess Kate's gotten herself into.
Pass the cheeseplate over here please.
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I'm here with the cheese and meat trays, along with the rumspringa. Is it too early to open the kegs?
"ALONE TIME"...with a married man. The home-wrecking, child abusing fame whore is so stupid and so screwed. It's so funny that Emily blabbed that all I can think of is them as Laurel and Hardy. "Oliver Hardy : " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
FlimsyFlamsy said... 126
AuntieAnn (#117), even creepier, the night of the special Emily
tweeted "love my gossslin (sp) kiddies!" MY!
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My? Oh my.
I looked at her TL. She refers to her nephew as MY little this and MY little that, too. She seems just as obsessed with babies as Kate was.
I think it's fair to say this gal was shopping for a permanent role in the Gosselin Travelin' Circus Show but she blew it if these DMs are fact.
I actually just cracked open an ice cold Corona....Its so Kate doesn't have to drink alone..we all know she'll be hitting the bottle tonight...this is better than a movie.....
I'm sure by the 5th airing she'll be under a million....might be enough these days to stay on the air.....our standards have been systematically lowered over the years...
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 197
Yes, she [Leeza] seems savvy. Sometimes SHE doesn't seem to belong on this show as much as Kate doesn't, she's too smart. ...
Look at Geraldo. Another one of the cast coming from the non-fiction side of things. He may be a nut job and self absorbed, but I don't think he's stupid.
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I agree. I think Geraldo is annoying, incredibly full of himself, and has delusions of grandeur. However, I also think he is very driven, has worked very hard to achieve his goals, and is quite intelligent. He can get away with his over-weening vanity because more often than not, his actions yield results.
The thing about Leeza is that she hasn't been shown complaining. She had to deal with crazy Ian and it was not easy, but she didn't throw her hands up and say "I give up. If you want me, I'll be over here stuffing my face." She tried to figure out a way to use Ian's personality and talents to redirect him - it didn't pan out so well, but there's only so much you can do when dealing with a difficult personality. She also incorporated a problem (Brandi vs. Kenya) and made it a workable solution. That's smart.
I wonder how Kate is feeling now that the ratings numbers are in. She said she wanted a second chance to "hit it out of the ballpark". She got that second chance (even though she didn't deserve it), and look--she's right back where she was the last time. Struggling in the ratings after just a few episodes. And there's nothing she can do about it. Just like before, people get sick of her very quickly and they tune out. TLC made a huge mistake by spending th money on theses specials. One or two every few years to check up on how the kids are doing is plenty. But too much Gosselin just turns people off.
Is it too early to open the kegs?
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PA, it's never too early.
(and thanks for bringing the cheese & meat tray. Dmasy hid the other snacks)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16m 16 minutes ago
Something I've learned here >> No matter how carefully you choose your words, they'll always end up being twisted by others. @Kateplusmy8
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Nah, Milo, not so much...if you tell the truth and stop the humble brags. No one would twist a word if Sasquatch said, "I'm a bipolar narcissist asshole who lied and manipulated to have children so I could get free shit."
How could Em have been a friend for five years? Kate didn't set up her Twitter until March of 2011. Did Em know Kate before that? I thought she started out as a Twitter fan, and then met Kate in person at the Litchfield run when those pictures appeared with the kids sitting on her lap.
Does our blog historian have Emily's first tweets to Kate?
Vanessa said... 133
Maybe we have a young narcissist in the making.
tfw isn't the first and she's certainly not the last
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I believe we have. Think she's trying to edge out the queen?
Kate's rabbit hole just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser
I *honestly* don't know what RC sees in Kite. She's just.not.a.nice.person.
What's the appeal?
Takes a lot for a man to leave the mother of his children for a shrew with 8 kids.
*I just don't get it. *
LOL
Karma karma
You befriend people only if there's something in it for you khate?
Well looks like this Em did the same.
Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
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LOL! I think he said "fine mess," and there's nothing fine about what's going down here!
Oh Auntie...I'm so ahead of you....going on my 3rd beer...between Emily and the ratings..this is turning out to be a pretty decent day..
There was a very interesting article in today's WaPo Local Living section: To Surly, with love: Positive attention for an unpleasant child.
I thought of Mady and how her behavior hasn't changed since the first shows, years ago. I think she acts the way she does because she doesn't know any other way.
An excerpt:
"Love her for who she is, right now. Accept that she is not her siblings. Accept that her behavior is a reflection of an emotional need that has not yet been met.
Additionally, it’s important to not force her to “cheer up,” or “be less of a prickly pear.” Rather, see who she is with equanimity and don’t view her behavior as a personal attack on the family."
It wouldn't surprise me if some of the G kids are on meds, given such extreme behavioral problems in kindergarten.
Many kids are on meds and many are helped, but they can not be helped with meds alone. They can not be the sacrificial patient offered up to the doctor to fix. The parents have to be involved and therapy must commence so that the behavior can be modified and new strategies employed.
Truly, it has to be exhausting being Mady.
Emily commented that her friends and family can't tell the difference between her and TFW sometimes, and she's flattered. (Paraphrasing)
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lol! It's sad when your teenage daughter is mistaken for a 40-year-old divorced mother of eight!
Nah, Milo, not so much...if you tell the truth and stop the humble brags. No one would twist a word if Sasquatch said, "I'm a bipolar narcissist asshole who lied and manipulated to have children so I could get free shit."
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You've figured out the cipher!
AuntieAnn said... 141
Is it too early to open the kegs?
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PA, it's never too early.
(and thanks for bringing the cheese & meat tray. Dmasy hid the other snacks)
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I didn't expect to be tipping the box so early, but, glug, glug, glug...
If Em did indeed say Kate needed alone time with Steve, this was the quickest 'friend implosion' detonated!! PA residents, batten down the hatches!
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I can feel the tremors over here in Lancaster County. Wonder how strong they are in Berks!
A drop in ratings?? Who could have predicted THAT??? LOL
*steps up to keg with glass in hand*
I find it odd that Emily tweeted such an open hater. I also find it odd she has not denied any of the tweets. I have this funny feeling that Kate has iced her in some kind of way that Emily isn't happy with. And this is her way of telling Kate, "I am not just a fan anymore, I know stuff"
Is it possible Kate did not make her sign the super secret CA???
We know the messages were sent. The content has not been verified, correct?
If she did pass out the kids medication(s) while the parent was away and Jon does get wind of this fan turned nanny I would think he would be very pissed-but then you never know.
MaryMary
So ADMIN: what does the latest entry from RH mean exactly?
Well, the jar of Nutella's gone, and Dmasy has a chocolate mustache.
Doesn't take much to connect those dots!
Twitter, Facebook, Instagram...all this communication "shorthand"
gives the illusion of intimacy with total strangers. And I think we're
seeing some of the dark side of that playing out right now. If none
of these claims are true -- even if Emily did not send one DM with
personal information about the G family -- the idea that she
thinks she's formed a deep and lasting connection with a woman
twice her age whom she "met" via Twitter is still concerning to me.
I don't know where to view the DM's that Emily supposedly sent to a non-fan. I'd like to see them for myself if possible. However, it would not surprise me to learn that she did DM this person and reveal some details that Kate would much prefer she kept private. Let's see if Emily gets kicked to the curb like all those other people who "didn't know how to help" Kate. Rut roh!
Over and Out...it's "nice." But nice or fine...it's definitely a mess. =D
DOUBLE WHOOPEE (1929) [From the 1969 dubbed re-release]
Oliver Hardy : " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into." (synchronized dubbed dialogue by Chuck McCann)
THE LAUREL — HARDY MURDER CASE (1930)
Oliver Hardy : "Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
ANOTHER FINE MESS (1930)
Oliver Hardy : "Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
CHICKENS COME HOME (1931)
Oliver Hardy : " Well..."
Stan Laurel : "Here's another nice mess I got you into."
PARDON US (1931)
Oliver Hardy : " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
SONS OF THE DESERT (1933)
Oliver Hardy : "Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
OLIVER THE EIGHTH (1934)
Oliver Hardy : " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
GOING BYE-BYE (1934)
Oliver Hardy : (in final shot with legs wrapped around their necks) " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
THE LIVE GHOST (1934)
Oliver Hardy : (in the final shot with heads twisted backwards on bodies) " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
THICKER THAN WATER (1935)
Oliver Hardy : " Well, here's another nice kettle of fish you've pickled me in!"
THICKER THAN WATER (1935)
Stan Laurel as Oliver Hardy after a blood transfusion: " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
THE FLYING DEUCES (1939)
Oliver Hardy as a horse: (in the final shot) "Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
SAPS AT SEA (1940)
Oliver Hardy : " Well, here's another nice bucket of suds you've gotten me into."
SAPS AT SEA (1940)
Oliver Hardy : (in the final shot) " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
JITTERBUGS (1943)
Oliver Hardy : (after being buried in pile of coal) " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
THE BULLFIGHTERS (1945)
Oliver Hardy : (in the final shot, after being "skinned") " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
ATOLL K (aka UTOPIA) (1951)
Oliver Hardy : (in the final shot) " Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into."
Well, well, isn't this a delicious turn of events. I do feel for Emily a little, she may be a bit of a hanger on but Kate has only encouraged this behaviour.
Emily should not be hitching her wagon to any other person's celebrity and it's kind of sad that she seems to get so much out of the attention from a child exploiting fame whore.
I haven't seen the DM's or tweets or whatever in question but it does sound to me like the majority here think they are legitimate.
If this plays out as most of us can predict from Kate's pattern of behaviour, then Emily certainly won't be saying MY and OURS for very much longer.
Kind of feel bad for the kid but at the same time, it's better to learn a lesson like this when you're young and can chalk it up to being naive.
Sure made for interesting reading this aft though. :D
Mel said... 129
Emily commented that her friends and family can't tell the difference between her and TFW sometimes, and she's flattered. (Paraphrasing)
It seems like she's made it a point to look just like Kate. Very odd.
Remember how Jamie was making it a point to look like Kate...same hairstyle, same clothing?
There's something very off about this.
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Decoys.
Did Em say that Kate had nobody to help her? What about the hundreds of friends and neighbors who meet her and fall in love with her? There was nobody willing to go along?
Kate should have called Milo. She would have been there faster than you could say Gladys Kravitz. What about Paige, with her 6,000 photos of Kate? She claimed that she spent hours and hours with Kate and Steve. Why wasn't she invited?
Over And Out said... 144
Does our blog historian have Emily's first tweets to Kate?
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Here are a few of them. It's very easy to find past tweets(if they haven't been deleted) if you use Twitter's advance search feature, which you can find on the left hand side of anyone's timeline. You can put in tweeter's ID's and also do a date range search.
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 10 Apr 2011
@Kateplusmy8 I'm your BIGGEST fan! My dream is to meet you, I actually have anxiety of seeing you, because i wouldnt know what to say!
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 10 Apr 2011
@kateplusmy8 On march 28th I announced to everyone in my school it was ur birthday! I'm known by all my friends as "the # 1 Kate fan!"
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 10 Apr 2011
@Kateplusmy8 sorry all this has been so annoying for you!!! Can you tell im a little passionate about being a fan?! haha
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 10 Apr 2011
@Kateplusmy8 I promise i wont tweet you everyday! i would imagine that would get annoying! :/ youre retweets made me the happiest girl ever!
And when Kate was going to run in the Litchfield race she tweeted:
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 8 Jun 2012
@Kateplusmy8 KATE!!!!!! Is the kids marathon in CT by any chance!?!?! Please let me know, rumor has it that's the one ur running in!!
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 8 Jun 2012
@Kateplusmy8 mammaG! I'm dying to know! Can you dm me or something to let me know?! If this is my chance to meet you, I might just cry!
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · 8 Jun 2012
@Kateplusmy8 Goodnight mammaG! I probably won't be able to sleep because I'm so dang excited! I'll be praying, hoping&wishing I get to see u
MikeB said... 125
Tuesday cable ratings. Huge drop from last week. 1.3 million viewers and a 0.5 share. That's down half-a-million viewers from the first episode.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/
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I thought The State of the Union would help her numbers.
All Emily needs to do is to deny the communication and confirm that those DMs are bogus and she can prove it. Has she done this? If they are indeed false, there are actions she can take. If they do not constitute libel, then she's up s##t's creek without a paddle.
Milo DM'd Kate about something last night, and Kate apparently hasn't responded:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 17h17 hours ago
Kate...check new DM please...
When Kate tweeted about helping the Morales family, Milo replied:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 17h17 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Will do Kate...chk msg. Thanks...
Then Milo tries again today:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 51m51 minutes ago
Kate...chk DM again....LOL Do a #FlyBy please!
Milo, Kate's got other "important" matters to deal with. Ratings went down and Emily's DMing with a hater. She doesn't want to have to deal with you, too.
Formerly Duped said... 108
*dog update: well, she cried all night! No sleep for her or for me. We saw in the light of day she has a rectal prolapse, and is very constipated. Canned pumpkin recommended and saline compresses to rear
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Oh, your poor pup's hiney!
I've been using pumpkin puree with ground turkey and brown rice to treat my dogs, and they love it and are VERY regular ;-)
Millicent - You'd have to go on the organics tweeter's timeline to find them. She only attached an actual shot of one (maybe) and the rest she either did a cut and paste or just retyped what was said.
If they are all accurate the house of cards is going to come crashing down. Organics said that she sent them all to ROL. Could this be a big hoax set up by TFW to bump ratings?
DPSL said...DECOYS! I was thinking the very same thing.
Save a chair for me, I'm not missing this party. I'll bring a fruit & veggie tray to go with the cheese & crackers. One grape, one cherry, one blueberry, one baby carrot, 1 radish & 1 cucumber slice for each of us!
Annnnnnd this is why you don't hire fans, Kate. Em is too entrenched in this all. It is better to have employees who couldn't care less who you are, who your fans and haters are, and are not obsessed with you or the drama. Obsession leads to bad things. It doesn't matter what Em said to her whether it was as described, slightly different, or completely different. Bottom line is Em admitted she did talk to her. Big oops.
I'm willing to bet though Kate will find it in her heart to forgive her just in time for their first class flight to Paris.
Well, I see some you ladies have already begun drinking this morning. as soon as I decide which of my three cars to drive, I'll be standing by as the designated driver!
It seems like she's made it a point to look just like Kate. Very odd.
Remember how Jamie was making it a point to look like Kate...same hairstyle, same clothing?
There's something very off about this.
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Single White Female anyone?
I have a giant size bag of barbecue potato chips I've needed a reason to open. Dumping them into a big bowl now and passing them around the verandah.
Cruisin', yep. You never hire fans. You just don't do it.
Too many things can easily go wrong both with the fans themselves, and with other fans who are jealous.
Frankly? I think it's fair to say it's dangerous to do so.
Another fan said that Emily showed her the DM's and Emily didn't mention Steve or medications.
AHS_Fan @Fly_On_TheWall · 4h 4 hours ago
@ConcernedChick @organics2014 Em didn't mention any thing about medications or relationship between steve and kate. She showed me.
AHS_Fan @Fly_On_TheWall · 4h 4 hours ago
@ConcernedChick @organics2014 Em showed me the DM. no mention of medication or affairs. organics is lying abt that
Concerned Chick @ConcernedChick · 4h4 hours ago
@Fly_On_TheWall @organics2014 She showed you screenshots? I agree... That is messed up if she made that part up.
AHS_Fan @Fly_On_TheWall · 4h 4 hours ago
@ConcernedChick @organics2014 She did. she wanted to let organics know the kids were happy and to let it go.Nothing abt meds or affairs.
If they do not constitute libel, then she's up s##t's creek without a paddle.
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True, but Emily's a 17-year-old who shouldn't be tangled up with a nutjob like Kate so I think it's Kate who should tread lightly here or SHE could be the one in trouble. What the hell is she doing inviting such a young fan on a vacation with the family anyway? Was she using her, too? Yeah, I know...rhetorical question.
When I was involved in show production for a celebrity, something similar happened. Without going into details, all hell broke loose when a fan was befriended. Lessons were learned, and if Kate has any smarts at all, she should have realized this by now.
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How did Superduper Security Steve ever greenlight the Twitter fan turns nanny situation? And here I thought Kate was the biggest moron in that outfit.
Admin, thanks for another fine recap especially when your time is probably so limited with the added demands of preparing for a trip. Enjoy your time away.
I have this funny feeling that Kate has iced her in some kind of way that Emily isn't happy with.
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What could very likely happen is that because Em may spend far more time with and caring for the kids than Kate, she might end up getting attached to the kids, empathizing with them, and if they ever disclose things they DON'T like about their situation or about Kate, she may find herself taking their side.
With that can come feeling defensive of the kids when their parents wrong them. If, if, she allows herself to become aligned with the children. It's very common for nannies to feel far more aligned with the children than with the parents. That is going to put Em is a very awkward spot if this is how it plays out. I don't care how much she loves Kate, if a sweet child is going to YOU, the nanny, for comfort and attention because their mother let them down, a normal young woman feels for that child, not the parent. Good luck to you, Em.
The thing is, why would Emily even DM the hater? Why not just tweet her instead? Did she not want Kate to know that she was interacting with a vile hater?
Since Kate follows Emily, Kate would have definitely seen any public tweets that Emily made and Emily knows that.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 175
Cruisin', yep. You never hire fans. You just don't do it.
Too many things can easily go wrong both with the fans themselves, and with other fans who are jealous.
Frankly? I think it's fair to say it's dangerous to do so.
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IIRC, Bethenny hired her #1 Twitter SuperFan for her talk show, and he didn't last long.
These people are different in real life than on Twitter or on their highly-edited "reality" show.
Speaking of which isn't that really what happened to Ashley? She loved the children, and eventually we started to hear her making numerous snide comments about Kate, the mother. Things like lay off complaining about people taking photos, let them have a snack and have fun, chill out, stop stressing on them, etc etc etc.
When she finally had enough of the MOTHER and left, her goodbyes were all about the children and assuring them she loved them and that this wasn't about them. Her alliance was without a shadow of the doubt with the wronged children against Kate. It'll happen to Em too.
I'll bring some hummus, but I first need to stop by the grocery store for a case of lemons.
Wonder if they stock Margherita Mix, I've got the Tequila
True, but Emily's a 17-year-old who shouldn't be tangled up with a nutjob like Kate
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Actually, Emily turned 20 on her last birthday.
Emily Creighton @EmCr68 · Sep 16
@cher cheralina! It's my birthday today! The big 2.0! Can you guess what I asked for??? CHER TICKETS OBVIOUSLY!! Oct 11! Can't wait!☺️
I have a large bag of popcorn to contribute to the veranda feast. I'll bring plenty of Starbucks bags too. Save me a rumspringa or 3. I need to hurry to catch up with FOTK and her husband's magic recliner.
I just put out a big plate of Mexican tortas, next to the keg. A variety of kinds, you should be able to find a few vegetarian in there too. Enjoy.
I'll order some cheesesteaks. I feel like having a cheesesteak!
NOBODY has seen them. The person posted a partial screen shot that contains none of the information she supposedly shared. People are claiming they are legitimate because they want them to be legitimate
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Eh, no. People are claiming they MIGHT be legitimate because Em herself has admitted she did in fact speak to this person, and Em herself has not jumped in, so far, so deny that what the Tweeter is saying she said, Em did NOT say.
Maybe she will clarify her position later, we'll have to see how it plays out.
In any case, people are also saying that regardless whether the content of DMs are true (there seems to be no dispute from Em at least some DMs occured), the very fact that Em even talked to this person in the first place, which to remind you Em ADMITS, its a HUGE red flag and hugely inappropriate.
Have a torta.
AuntieAnn said... 177
If they do not constitute libel, then she's up s##t's creek without a paddle.
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True, but Emily's a 17-year-old who shouldn't be tangled up with a nutjob like Kate so I think it's Kate who should tread lightly here or SHE could be the one in trouble. What the hell is she doing inviting such a young fan on a vacation with the family anyway? Was she using her, too? Yeah, I know...rhetorical question.
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She's not 17, she's in her second year of college. She was going to be a nurse like her idol, but switched to theater or something
Ex Nurse said... 172
Well, I see some you ladies have already begun drinking this morning. as soon as I decide which of my three cars to drive, I'll be standing by as the designated driver!
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LOL
There were a few interactions my celeb had with fans. One of 'em ran the web site. For free. Others would help organize meet and greets, etc.
There was no huge incident per say. But what I did see it cause was a lot of demands. Give a fan an inch they want a mile. Offer to meet up with a few fans to exchange whatever for 10 minutes at some book signing and they demand you stay for dinner and a movie. It also caused a lot of fighting AMONG fans. A lot of spilled blood. At one point a family member emailed them all, they were on this email list thing back in the day, asking them to please stop with all the fighting it was stressful for celeb and the family. It was embarrassing and uncomfortable. This was the dawn of internet fans, before FB, etc., when people were mostly on listservs (anyone remember THOSE days??) so in fairness I think they honestly didn't know it could implode like that. Now that they know, no more fans are allowed to get involved.
Is Emily 17? Oh my. I thought she was older. If so, how could her parent's allowed allow this SWF, fan worship turned nanny and then on a reality TV show? That baffles me. Surely TLC had Emily sign some of those 300 page contracts. Surely she had to sign the confidentiality waiver? I just don't understand how/why she would end up sending direct messages about ANYTHING related to the G kids. That has to violate something from TLC and or Kate. Right???
Can direct messages be faked? Didn't we see fake texts from Hailey or was that not proven?
I didn't see the actual messages from the hater about Steve or medications in an @format. It looked just like ramblings. Although I see how someone could infer that, it wasn't written as factual.
Whoever said to be Mady is exshauting. What a perfect way to sum that up. I agree. I do have pity for her as a mom. When they realized they were going to Indian Island she started wiping away tears. They were excited about that and yet Mady's emotions brought her to tears!
That girl is either hothot or coldcold and that sounds exactly like bilpolar. Unmedicated teen, well, that just terrifys me for her.
Pooches Mom
I gotta smile at this. Kate uses people, like Emily, but this time instead of befriending someone who keeps their mouth shut, it's a young girl who may be just as disturbed as she is. Who in their right mind would ask a stranger to do what Kate asked her to do? Just because Kate has been lucky in the past with her user relationships, maybe this time she got lazy about checking this girl out. It's actually funny that this girl confirms, if the DM's are legit, that she babysat while Kate and Steve had their alone time. Then she compounds it by saying how much Steve loves the kids. I guess she indeed set the record straight!
It would have made sense to me that Kate would insist TLC employ a nanny to help during filming, but instead she always brings along some "trusted friend". Why is that? Is it a barter situation that a person is offered a free vacay with air time in return for their silence?
I had no idea this girl was so infatuated with Kate. Perhaps that is why Kate trusted her, LOL. Here is a young girl who wants to be I show biz and around show biz who looks and acts like her hero, Kate. Now what could go wrong?!
Ah, those three little words...
Can we sue?
BTW, forget bringing food to the veranda. Craft services is on its way. We'll be stuffing our faces with free food any minute
PJ
Actually, it is my understanding Emily thought she was defending Kate by saying the kids are well cared for so I am NOT seeing that she was pissed off about anything. Unfortunately for Emily, she picked a wrong person to persuade and gave too much info. I think Emily thought she was doing Kate a favor by defending her, LOL.
If they're real, perhaps Emily isn't aware that non-fans reputation.
$$$%%%
I can imagine Emily wrapped up in fandom a tweeting with Katie and unlike Milo really paying no attention to the haters. It's quite likely she had no idea of this person's twitter history.
Milo has joined the fray. Notice she's just tweeting on her own timeline. If Kate wasn't aware of it before, she is now. Doesn't Milo realize if she just shut up it would probably just go away? Sounds like she's worried that ROL WILL do a story.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago
If #ROL does its #DueDiligence..there is no way they will give voice 2latest hater gossip abt young friend of Kate! #FalseDms are not nice!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago
#PhotoShoppedDms...#AlteredDms R easily disproved! Twitter has all that info! Haters beware. There R consequences 4such dishonesty.
Haters beware? Ha ha ha ha ha!!
"Have a torta" - I love that, Admin! It can be 2015's version
of "Chill out."
As far as cautionary tales about fans working for celebs...
I know every few months someone trots this one out, but
I think it bears repeating -- ask how well that arrangement
turned out for Selena.
I was wrong, she's not 17, she's 20.
16 SepEmily Creighton @EmCr68
@cher cheralina! It's my birthday today! The big 2.0! Can you guess what I asked for??? CHER TICKETS OBVIOUSLY!! Oct 11! Can't wait!☺️
PJ (#194), no craft services food for me. I have a soggy salad
I'm saving for the stroke of 8pm. But, by all means, the rest of
you should eat. You know, so you won't die...
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 3m3 minutes ago
This always happens when @Kateplusmy8 is soaring higher...being successful, #Haters get panicky & have 2step up their foolishness a notch!
Um, Milo, have you seen the ratings? More like free-falling.
localyocul said... 187
I'll order some cheesesteaks. I feel like having a cheesesteak!
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I'll take mine wit please.
Emily is not 17, she's in her 2nd year of college and switched schools. I don't know if she switched majors (she was a nursing major) but she's heavily involved in theatre. Emily seems to get involved with anyone attached to the star (assistants, go-fers, etc.). I think her parents paid for a meet and greet with Cyndi Lauper after a concert as part of her Christmas present. Emily strikes me as a very entitled young lady from a wealthy family. She does seem like she's trying to clone TFW and I'm surprised that she hasn't asked her parents for a boob job yet. She is very in to herself as edvienced by the amount of selfies that she posts.
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