Kate calls Vivica "Viv." Well, isn't she just one of the girls! She claims the drama in the boardroom made her tense up. For someone who has made a career out of surrounding herself with drama and a half, she sure claims to hate it a lot. She should stop doing things she hates.
Ian has figured out that if he keeps going back to the boardroom, he increases his chances of getting fired. Oh, no, he's dumb, too. Sheesh, that's the sort of stupid comment I'd expect from somebody like doofus over there.
The crab fisherman is smarter than most and has done the calculations and figured out they all made it to the halfway point. Shawn is shocked she made it this far. Me, too. And that attitude is why Shawn is an Olympic dud. She's far too negative and a real wuss. I've never seen an Olympian act this pathetic on a reality show. Successful people are not shocked to make it to the halfway point or even to win, because step one of success is believing they should win. If Shawn doesn't even believe she should be halfway there, she has no chance of ever winning. At least Jonas brother, tool that he was, believed he should be there. Even when he was fired he still believed he should have won.
I haven't said much about the credits but they have always been top notch on this show. I love the heavy saturation and clarity. Leeza is adorable. Some of the montages are really artful, like Jamie's snow and Brandi throwing vodka out of a glass or whatever, which if you know the Real Housewives show you would know how perfect that is for Brandi.
The great Joan Rivers is a Trump adviser! I heart her. Or hearted. :(
They're in the showroom of the Ivanka collection. Whatever Ivanka touches turns to gold, Trump explains, she's a perfect child. I don't find his parental bragging obnoxious because it's true, Ivanka is phenomenal. She's so beautiful, so classy, and so intelligent. She develops things as effortlessly as putting cheese spread on crackers and they are a success. And she's a 90210 super fan in her spare time. I wonder why no one here is "just jealous" of a woman so perfect. They're going to create a marketing event to promote Ivanka's shoes for Nordstrom and their campaign "Power Up." I love Nordstrom! The fact that they have teamed up with Ivanka speaks volumes about the quality of Ivanka's products. She ain't no Kathy Lee.
Crab fisherman is a little disconcerted, all the tasks have been so women-oriented he can't find his penis in the morning. He says this. Kate shushes him, as she is a paragon of virtue. After all she has eight kids she is the role model for, and that comment was inappropriate. Kate totally seems like one of those women who can't stand words like penis and vagina and still call them pee-pee and cha-cha because she has never grown up.
Shawn puts her gymnastics skills to good use by bending over backwards to avoid PM. Shawn doesn't know anything about this, she insists. What does she know about? The most she's ever done for her team is complain about her period and invoke her good sense of balance to scale a wall to hang something. Vivica is like whatever, I'll do it, I've done it before and Shawn needs to step up (and I'm still bitter about her insinuation I'm menopausal), but whatever. I like Vivica. I never expected to dislike Shawn this much. Step up already, even Kate has stepped up. Sheesh!
Ha-ha, Kenya is going to be PM for the other team! Oh, this is going to be tough, Trump says. And good, I predict. Leeza needs to step up and soon but since she pulls her weight so much on every task I'll forgive it. And this is where Shawn's strategy is going to backfire because it could very well be her and Leeza as PMs next task and she has no business going up against Leeza, she'll be done for if she does. Stupid.
Kenya has a brilliant idea to use a piano.
Kenya puts Brandi on this, so she can blame Brandi when it goes wrong. Leeza doesn't like it, it's too old school Nordstrom and they're supposed to be targeting younger women. Again though she really isn't that forceful about trying to take her team in a different, and better direction.
Over at team Vortex, Kate's all gregarious again this fine morning because for some reason Geraldo brings out the best in her. She loves everything about his ideas so much she can't help herself interrupting him to tell him how great he is. Geraldo is similarly amazed by how wonderful and amazing he is. Color me surprised two narcissists would get along so swimmingly.
Oh, no, they put Kate on interior decorating. Have they seen her Christmas tree?
Shawn sucks but at least she throws out some decent ideas on most tasks, including this one. Kate throws out nothing this time but is vigorously taking notes again in an oh-so-helpful manner. You know in case they forget all this. Even Vivica is like I don't get Shawn, she has good ideas but refuses to step up as PM. By the way Shawn explained earlier her strategy is avoidance. That's fine for the first several tasks but you can't do that the whole show! Avoidance is a great strategy to get you into the thick of it, but as Crab fisherman explained we're halfway there now. Avoidance will backfire on you and big time if you try to use that tactic in the second half. You have to step up in the second half, there's just no way around it. And frankly you're better to do it as soon as possible when there are still weak players left as good options to fire. With a team as decent as this one and some duds still over on the other team, Shawn should have just gone for it on this task, now or never.
Commercials! My favorite timelapses are back, with an awesome skyline morning shot and some fun street shots.
Team Vortex gets to their mobile truck for their set up and yowser, it's tiny! Like only two or three people can comfortably be in there tiny. Lorenzo wisely suggests setting up things outside. Geraldo suggests a coffee bar outside. Well, that's good.
Shawn and Kate are dismayed at this change in plan. Dismayed. Well, but they're off in some fabric store where all good PMs send their most useless contestants. Shawn and Kate can't see the set up to realize how small it is. You have to trust your team that the set up is too small to go with their original plan of couches or whatever. Vivica is trying to explain to the doofuses that the setup ... is .. .too .... small .... for .... their ..... original ..... game plan .... to ....work. They're not getting it of course. They already cut and paid for the fabric. Whatever, Vivica says, scrap it.
Kate's shocked. Shocked!
Shawn says Vivica is "sinking" their entire team. What the hell? No, Vivica is saving it. How difficult is this to understand? They came up with a nice concept with couches that suddenly didn't work because the space was smaller than one of those popular tiny houses. Vivica quickly changed course to an outdoor coffee bar. They're going to have to eat it on the 500 bucks, who cares.
Vivica's just had enough of Shawn being so contrary and hangs up. Story of our lives folks, because of some other circumstance, Shawn just driving Vivica and viewers bonkers, Kate's gonna skate by. I feel it coming and I'm prepared.
I really love the Apprentice editors, they are the best reality T.V. editors in the business. They must have loads of fun in those editing bays. They play sort of "dopety-dough" type music I would call it, sort of a little tuba, you know the kind of music that lets you know the current subject in front of you is an idiot. Kenya is puttering around in their tiny house pointing out where things will go, spliced in with shots of Leeza looking really skeptical. Lol. Leeza doesn't think they have a cohesive concept, which incidentally was their problem on Cosmopolitan, too. Uh-oh, Brandi is worried about this too.
Kenya think the team knows she's the strongest player creatively. Hehe, well what she dreams up about what others think of her is creative that's for sure. Kenya says this is about Brandi being bothered by Kenya's intelligence and creativity. Eh, no, it's about Brandi being worried they don't have a cohesive concept.
Haha, there's so much tension now on Kate's team between Vivica and Shawn and also Vivica and Kate, because Kate has sort of aligned herself with Shawn and is doing negative body language like crossing her arms and looking at the tiny house with scorn. This is wonderful. No more "Vivs" for you, doofus.
Kate doesn't get the concept of shoes and a coffee shop. Of course she doesn't, she was asked to get something within a matter of minutes, and that's far too much for her. Kate and Shawn go off to another room to stuff their faces and lament how much Vivica sucks. Lol. I think all this is about is Kate and Shawn both being so damn immature that they can't stand the fact that Shawn's brilliant concept of couches had to be scrapped. Everyone liked Shawn's idea. Until they saw the space. Turns out, the space was too small. Shawn's idea had to be eighty-sixed because it wouldn't work. It had to be. It's not personal, girls. Now go finish your gyros.
Commercials again. Another lovely rainy morning in New York. That sucks though, since a lot of things are going to be outside. They didn't think to check the weather report? Kate should have checked the weather and pointed that out if she wanted to get what she wanted. Dolt. That said, a rainy day is perfect to attract people who want hot drinks, so maybe this will work out after all.
Kenya's spending large amounts of time on the chandelier and piano. Everyone else is scrambling unwrapping shoes, hanging mirrors, wiping things off, etc. I wish I had a broom, Leeza says. Why don't you ask Kate, she surely has one. Leeza is not above crouching down and scrubbing floors with a paper towel. I wish I had a project manager, Brandi quips, which ends up being the title of this episode. Heh.
Ha, Lorenzo thinks it's a great day for coffee, too. Aw. My new fav team member.
Kate is still going on about how do shoes relate to coffee. I don't think that's that weird. Pop-up coffee shops are everywhere now, including department stores, grocery stores, drug stores. But Kate insists this is the most bizarre thing she's ever heard. When your assistant/bodyguard/nanny is always the one fetching your coffee for you, you can easily get out of touch with coffeeshops these days. The one thing I think Kate's right about however is that they have all the shoes inside the tiny house and no shoes outside. There needs to be some kind of flow and transition from the outdoor cafe inside to the tiny house, tying it all together with the shoes. In other words, some shoes should be outside to draw you inside. But does Kate articulate this to her team and insist they make this relatively minor change? Of course not, unless it was edited out. She'll just put it in her pocket and save that one to throw Vivica under the bus in the boardroom later. Classic Krieder.
Promptly at eleven people start pouring in, getting their coffee and checking out the shoes. People seem to like it. There's even a line. Sounds like the concept is working. The legend Joan Rivers stops by, grabs a coffee, checks out the tiny house and, aww, says they actually did a great job. She loves it. You know, the idea Kate and Shawn hated. Ha, Joan Rivers calls Geraldo "my cookie." That's great.
Over on Kenya's team, they're doing shots and massages. Lol, and that's the Real Housewife vision of this concept. Leeza and Kenya show Joan around and Leeza is surprised that Leeza is actually sort of feeling their concept now, it's grooving. Hey, a few drinks does tend to get things going. Joan likes their set-up too, and wants to know if Leeza has those particular shoes in a "Six Bunion." Haha! Joan, you are greatly missed.
Ivanka shows up and Brandi advises her to watch her head on the chandelier inside. Watch her head? Sure enough inside the tiny house the chandelier is hanging about five and a half feet off the ground. It's eye level with Kenya. That's hysterical. Everything looks even smaller as a result, like the way some little people modify their houses so everything is two feet lower. Good idea, Kenya, hang it right about the level you would hang a pinata at a six-year-old's birthday party, that's where that should go, perfect! If there was one thing I did not quite anticipate coming into this show is that there would actually be as big or bigger idiots than Kate among the fleet.
Ivanka gives the chandelier, which practically blocks some of the people she is talking to from her view, a sort of "hmmm, interesting choice of decor" look. Which is a classy woman's way of saying what in the f--ckity f--- is that? Kenya doesn't see how she could possibly lose.
Over on Kate's team, Lorezno takes over trying to sell their concept to Ivanka. He does a great job and should step up as PM soon, but their set-up really is lacking that transition from coffee to shoes. It seems to me a lot of people are just there for the coffee and are skipping the shoes. That can't be good. Ivanka steps into the tiny house and Kate manages to explain the set-up well enough with help from Ivanka who prompts her with questions. There's that thick PA accent back again, the 9-5 shoe is in "vaa-rious" places in the tiny house. Hehe.
Well, Vivica is just as confident as Kenya is in her team that Vivica's team won. Whenever she is project manager they always seem to make a mad dash for the finish line! Hehe, you mean that one time before when you were PM? Yes there is a definite pattern here.
Boardroom time! Trump praises Joan for a bit, calling her a champion, which is a nice tribute. If you haven't seen Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work, make sure that you do. In my review of this fine documentary for the blog I said it was "full of all kinds of layers and insight into the world of celebrity, women entertainers, groundbreaking comedy, workaholics, and the self-absorbed." Worth your time.
Kenya feels they really nailed it and admits even Brandi did a good job. Aw, I love a good make up. Of course she takes credit for Brandi shaping up, claiming she worked a bit of magic on her. Lol, ladies and gentleman we have another narcissist in our midst. Brandi thinks Kenya did well, but to me that just sounds like Brandi being diplomatic because she's not stupid and has a good feeling they've won so there's no use trashing Kenya right now. This reconciliation is so epic Geraldo suggests sending them to the Middle East. Heh. Leeza however was underwhelmed, she thought Kenya was disorganized. I agree with that and I'm not surprised a journalist would notice that since organization is paramount to the profession. From what we've seen Kenya flutters around blurting out random ideas and then chasing after them full throttle, not really seeming to have a clear plan of attack for the big picture. She also tends to get married to ideas really fast and never lets them go, even bad ones, which is generally not a good thing to do in most business scenarios. You can tell who has taken any kind of business class or read some books and who hasn't, and Kenya hasn't.
Ivanka liked Kenya's "Power up your sole" slogan because it was playful and direct. Vivica's "I am ...." listing various attributes was kind of all over the place. Uh-oh.
Vivica pegs Shawn and Kate as the problem on the team, lol, of course they were. Kate was out doing her usual shopping when Vivica had to change up the concept, and they didn't like that and that caused problems. Wow, did Kate ever go from "Viv, girlfriend!" to Ms. Fox's "lack of leadership and delegation" in two shakes of a sheeple's tail. Although she's heavily coached, I hate to say it she does a good job turning this right back around and making her, and the doofus's next to her, total lack of energy, creativity and overall effectiveness into all Vivica's fault. Well played. Strangely, she does think they won. You know, like, despite the utter idiocy of everybody else on the team but her and doofus. She's such a bitch. And delusional.
Kate explains her contribution to the task was recognizing that Lady Ivanka would never stand for plastic flowers, and going out and getting both plastic and fresh so Vivica had the option of choosing the much better fresh. Baw-hahahaha, Vivica flat out mimics Kate under her breath, mouthing "I got plastic and fresh!" like a Valley Girl would. Haha, Vivica hates her. Why? There's so much more to this we never saw, and that makes me so sad. I wanna see!
Vivica's pissed now. She's like congratulations, resting-bitch-face, you brought us fresh flowers, but this was about the overall package on this task and I brought it, Trump. Ha. Blech, Ivanka begrudgingly has to admit that fake flowers would be a bad choice. I mean, I hate fake flowers but have you seen fake flowers these days? The good ones? I am telling you, you cannot tell the difference. They are amazing. Not your grandma's fake flowers. And an argument could be made that's better than wilting flowers by 3 p.m., I suppose. I can't believe Ivanka thinks fake flowers or real ones are that big of a deal on this task. I would have put money on her saying that had all but about 1% to do with my overall impression of your set-up. Sigh, now Kate's gonna be smug for days 'cause Ivanka backed her up. Doofus, purely by accident, hits a home run yet again.
Wow, Vivica starts crying as she very reluctantly admits that Shawn sucks and should have been PM. I get the sense everyone feels like Shawn is or was America's sweetheart and it feels wrong somehow to call her out for the doofus she is. Like attacking your own daughter or something.
Ivanka loved many things about Vivica's team, including the coffee shop (the one Kate and Shawn hated, in case you forgot), but something about the way she is setting this up tells me there is a big but coming and they lost. Sure enough she says they didn't emphasize the shoes enough. Even Joan chimes in to say the coffee shop idea was brilliant. Ha, suck it, Kate. All that whining over changing things to a coffee shop and turns out it's the one thing the advisers did like, hehe. As for Kenya's team the whole thing was totally off brand, Ivanka's like, stopping in the middle of the day for a foot massage is just strange. Lol, so true. This is interesting, sounds like they both had major flaws. Who will it be? I would have to bet Kenya, since at least she emphasized the brand. And the winner is? Kenya! But it was a hard decision, Ivanka admits. Her charity is Detroit Public Schools. That's a good one.
Oh, brother, back at the suite, Kenya wants to be crowned the greatest contestant of them all and is so overwhelmed she's having an out of body experience, lol. She couldn't be more obnoxious and over the top, but I like that she and Brandi were able to just get along and pull off a win.
Kate tries to pull with Vivica what she pulls on Twitter about her kids, you know telling us what they say and think and such. But this is the boardroom, not Twitter. Kate says something about how things were disorganized and how she had to tell Vivica to use her words. Like what you would say to a three-year-old? Use your words, Krissy baby, so Mommy can help you? Wow, what a patronizing hag. No wonder Vivica looks like she wants to punch her straight in that overly-lipsticked mouth. Kate says Vivica begged her to "rescue" her at one point. Vivica leans toward her like she's not sure she heard Kate right. She finally jumps in: Rescue me? Nope, hag, never said that. Bitch, don't put words in my mouth. She orders Kate to tell the story correctly! Lol! Kate's all stammering now. It's the big girls, Kate. You must have forgotten. Welcome back.
Much like naive is a nice way to call somebody stupid, "energy level" is a nice way to call somebody lazy, and Ivanka says Shawn's energy level just wasn't up to snuff. I never imagined an Olympian would have a problem with laziness on a show like this. It's simply never happened before.
Joan starts saying something and Trump gets bored as he often does when people talk for awhile and interrupts her to talk about how great she looks at her age and what a champ she is. Joan has bling on her finger the size of a new Duggar baby.
Vivica oh so very wisely brings back Kate and Shawn. Has Kate been in every single boardroom on every task her team lost on? Blog historian? I think so! LOL! Weirdo Geraldo says something about how this is just like sausage. Mmm, sausage. Everyone back in the suite says Shawn is toast. Nobody seems to think Kate is in danger.
When we come back, the editors have completely cut out the three women going back into the boardroom while the synthesizer drones on and the piano tinkers the usual ditty of impending firing, and they're already sitting there in front of Trump, which is fine since that is an unnecessary waste of time that I'd rather see spent on showing viewers the task itself.
Ivanka asks Vivica between the two of them, Shawn and Kate, who would be better to keep around, an asset. Lol, Shawn, Vivica says. For the complete dud that Shawn is, even for that wisecrack about menopause toward Vivica, she's still better than Kate. That's great. Only problem with this is that I think Trump is going to give Kate a few free points for having stepped up as PM before, and early. Shawn never has, and that's really bad in this situation. You can't play that game this late in the competition when it gets down to the wire like this if you don't have something else going for you, like Leeza or Lorenzo do. Another problem with never stepping up is you never win any money for your charity and risk going home empty handed. You wouldn't want to leave something like global warming to run amok all because you couldn't man up. You might as well jump into the fire sooner rather than later.
Kate's making so many faces even Trump has to chuckle at her. Oh wow, Vivica is pointing out what we pointed out, that Shawn isn't half bad on her own but gets influenced by some of the ladies. I.e. Kate making her and Jamie her minions. That's so spot on, Vivica. Exactly what I saw.
Interesting, Shawn explains she is well aware she has taken on sort of the minion role but was just playing a part. She's been well aware what some of these women were using her for all along. I did not expect her to say that. To what end she is playing this role however I don't quite understand. Why is Kate all nodding and mm-hmming when Shawn is explaining that she's basically been playing you this whole time? Lol, what a doofus!! Predictably though, the Trumps don't like that Shawn wasn't ever PM, and like that both Kate and Vivica have won as PM before. They leave out the fact that Kate won because of Brandi and Leeza, but I guess you can't start getting that far entrenched in the history when trying to sort this stuff out. Kate's bobbling away like a maniac trying to back up Shawn but Shawn's so done. By the way is it just me, but I seem to distinctly remember in prior seasons Trump saying definitively he cannot judge you on prior tasks, he can only judge you on what he has before him, on this particular task. So your history of doing great is irrelevant to the one screw-up currently. Unless I'm just making that up, that little rule he had seems to have let completely fall by the wayside since now both Kate and Vivica are getting all this credit for prior performances. Odd.
Due to other circumstances, like for the first time in the history of reality shows an Olympic contestant was lazy, Kate is not fired. Shawn, you're fired. This is so funny. Every time she skates by. Every time. Nine lives I tell ya.
I usually find the car rides home boring but I have to note that in the car ride home Shawn laments how she was only 22 and just getting out in the real world. Again Shawn, please read Malcolm Gladwell's David and Goliath or really anything by that brilliant man. It's simply not true that you are at some wild disadvantage just because you are young and inexperienced. You were going up against the likes of dolts like Kate and Jonas brother for pity sake. You're an Olympian! You've had more experience with the world, hard work, business and marketing than most 22-year-olds. Get a grip. At least Jonas brother never saw himself so negatively. He actually viewed his youth as an advantage. It's all about how you frame things for yourself. Yes he was fired early but I would rather go out owning it than get knocked out this way in some pathetic little heap. I worry for Shawn. Not just on this show but long term. She's never going to be an Olympic gymnast again, nobody is at her age. What's her life plan now? She needs to stop with the woe is me and get out there in the world, make a way for herself. Surely there are a myriad of ways to combine her professional athlete experience with a career. She's done a bit of sports announcing that went fine, but she strikes me as the type that will never be happy even with somebody else's dream career unless she's back on that balance beam. Shawn, it's over. Until you accept that you will always be this down in the dumps.
Back in the suite, Kate's pouting because she doesn't feel Shawn should have gone. Eh, yes she should have, if not Kate should have gone. Kate's just mad she lost somebody she can beat. Had to happen sometime. Vivica was never even close to being fired on this one, no way is Trump going to fire her when it was that close of a call and the PM really should have been Shawn but Vivica just stepped up because Shawn absolutely refused to take it. Poor schmoops lost both of her minions now and all that's left of the women are Leeza and three gals who hate her. Vivica's worried Kate, who is giving her immature bitch looks the whole time complete with a raised eyebrow of bitchiness, will be an even worse problem than before now that she's so pissed Vivica wasn't fired, which is probably a real fear. When even Geraldo, king of not getting over things, is telling you to get over it, that's bad.
It's the next morning, and, oh, good, crab fisherman will be happy this task is finally about nuts. They're going to make a viral video promoting single serve coffees from a local brand called Chock Full o' Nuts. Oh no, Celebrity Apprentice "viral videos" are rarely funny, interesting or worthy of going viral. Very cool, they're using GoPros. Trump is a rather sickening shade of yellow this morning.
Woo-hoo Leeza is finally PM, versus the beautiful Lorenzo. What a wonderful showdown! They are both perfect for this and might I say quite evenly matched. Nuts on.
I rarely think of my own ideas for these tasks, I'm not that much of a CA nerd, but I'm thinking since this is a GoPro they should take advantage of its capabilities. Maybe track down an extreme sports athlete, or someone who scales tall buildings without equipment or something, and figure out how to get that in their commercial. Just using a GoPro like a regular camera is uninteresting.
Instead Lorenzo goes in a rather boring direction of having Geraldo do a jingle rap. Geraldo says he's the only one here who drank this brand in the sixties. That's probably because he's the only one here old enough to drink coffee in the 60's. Schmoops here wasn't even born yet. But like everything about him, he just owns it, including his age. Kate suggests she and Vivica be his backup rappers. She's really excited she hit on this fantastic idea. This has the distinct feel of a brainstorming session for your group project on modern writers for 11th grade English class. The one where you did a super amazing and awesome Academy Award winning short film with your best friend's camcorder and a mic borrowed from their dad who used to have big dreams. The kind of video you look back on today and it's just not what you thought it was then, now it's mostly just cute. Kate's contribution to this is just basically like yeah, yeah, this is great, do this, do that! Lol, schmoops, calm down. Lorenzo is like sometimes Geraldo's ideas are great....annnnd, sometimes they're not. Hehe, I love him.
Leeza is predictably fantastic. She's got this all figured out how she will manage the various perosnalities. Ian really is cute. He called me up yesterday and he's like, I still love you. And I'm like, I'm just, I mean this is exhausting, you know? Like, we are never getting back together, like ever. Taylor Swift reference for Kate. Hey, why didn't she call up her BFF Taylor to donate? Kenya actually says they have four hours to do all this, is that accurate? That seems an absolutely insane amount of short time to shoot a video. Ian is his usual fruitcake self. You know he's being a fruitcake because the music is lighthearted and silly. Ian's idea is a gorilla climbing a building or something. I think the gorilla is a bit ambitious in four hours what with the permits and all but I think he has it right they have to do something extreme.
Leeza has a decent idea to leverage the skirmish between Kenya and Brandi and make their video about that. I think given the Real Housewives fans out there, that very well might work. It's as good of an idea as any.
Kenya finally explains that their little spat is about some comments Brandi made about her in the press. I don't know what those comments were about but sounds like Brandi being her typical self, blurting away and alienating folks as she goes. In fairness, Kenya makes comments in the press too, like saying that Steve and Kate shared a hotel room during the competition. Not that I have a problem with her doing that, she should say what she likes about a situation she was there for, but it seems kind of hypocritical to be upset at Brandi for what sounds like something similar.
The idea morphs into something I think is rather good, such that the video is going to show Brandi and Kenya cat fighting, and then show what a guy sees when he sees women going at it like that. Which I assume they mean something a bit more sexual. I can't picture Kate being on this team and having the foggiest grasp of this concept. It would be way too much for her to digest in only four hours. Good thing she's over on Vortex where they're just rapping.
Geraldo is happy to offer his endorsement of this coffee for free when normally he would charge millions for such a thing. He's such a generous man. Kate is off by herself getting her hair done in a June Cleaver style that looks like it's going to take hours. Good place to put her. We all know the pool girls and lawn boys, but did you know there are Ted Gibson girls? One of such girls came to do her hair, Kate explains. We may need to add one of those girls to our staff one of these days, she seems like she would fit right in. Ted Gibson seems like a nice guy for helping Kate out so much like this. Hey, who is going to do Vivica's hair? I thought she was in the video, too.
They finish filming some of the shots they need and now they're waiting on Kate. Just as expected this hair thing is taking forever. Vivica comes over in a similar manner to the shopping incident and is like okay schmoops let's get the show on the road here. Somebody had just said they have to film and edit this whole thing in one day. That's just nuts, chock full of 'em, and doing a whole fancy hair thing like this doesn't seem like the best use of time. Wow, Kate says people think Vivica is more capable than she actually is because she's always looking busy. Holy projection, batman! She, Kate, of course knows the truth about Vivica. Wow, Kate's a real bitch. I like the sort of alternate universe thing going on here where all the contestants the editors obviously don't mind you really liking end up as people Kate hates, and everybody Kate just loves are real dolts. Hehe. She's an actress, Kate mutters with scorn, chomping away on her gum. But you're a reality T.V. star! Lol! The way it's edited makes it look like Kate ignores Vivica when she tells her to hurry the hell up and asking her what the holdup is, which is pretty damn rude if that's the case. I have never seen such an utter lack of self-awareness. There's Kate, all relaxed, who can't believe that any of this would make Vivica so stressed out and raring to get this done. Yet that's all Kate does on her Kate Plus 8 show is act like that. Just watch the RV episodes. It's go here, go there, now, faster, if we pull up somewhere you are to disembark from the bus on my count, quick march! No potty breaks, no poopy breaks, no crying for your mommy!
Kate's is usually all stress and drama all the time. How can she not see this? At least Vivica is anxious to get going for charity.
If Kate needed such an elaborate hair and makeup thing, she should have been in the makeup chair at 5 a.m. like every other celebrity in the world. That's because this shit does always take forever so they stick you in there at 5 a.m. Or do a hairstyle that doesn't take so long. Simple.
Leeza and Ian are starting to butt heads a bit, as diplomatic as Leeza always tries to be. Ian thinks he has more experience than anyone, so it's an ego thing. I think his experience and Leeza's could compliment each other quite well but someone like him won't see it that way. Some hotdog scene they are doing staring Ian is taking forever as scenes tend to do when you're channeling Shakespeare. They butt heads some more. Kenya thinks Leeza needs to reel this shark in and get on with it.
Kate is finally done and the hairstyle is cool but hardly worth all the time they spent on it. Lorenzo is nice and says he likes Kate but they wasted a heck of a lot of time on the stupid hair and now he has to cut some shots, thanks to Kate. That sucks. Good job, doofus, another f-up is all thanks to you. Kate wants to do this and that shot but Lorezno, who understands the time thing when it comes to making a film, is like it simply is not possible under these time constraints, we're losing the light, etc., all things somebody who actually knows how to make a film would be realizing. She just got out of hair and makeup and they're already losing light, how long did that Gibson girl spend on this anyway and what time did doofus finally roll out of bed this morning?
I don't understand how the rap got transformed into Lassie without the dog but here they are.
Back at Leeza's team, I like Brandi's glasses, she is one of the few people who looks prettier with glasses than without. Somebody said Brandi has some odd angles and I agree. Catch her at the wrong angle and she looks so strange. I think it's her bone structure. But with the right angle she's really pretty.
Brandi's excited about this, she would love to beat the sh-- out of Kenya. Heh. The fight is, well, odd. They're kind of whipping their heads back and forth like a washing machine. Okay then.
Over on Lorenzo's team they have an hour and fifteen minutes to finish up the shoot. Oh no. Lorenzo scrambles to get their outdoor shots. He is a wonderful director, doing a good job explaining to the "talent" what to do. Oh, here's the rap. Or dance I guess. I get it now, sort of. Geraldo reminds me of Mr. Peanut from Planter's.
Kate more like a little Dutch girl, with apologies to Dutch girls.
They look like they all raided the family Halloween costume box and put on whatever struck a chord, like what we used to do at kids on a boring rainy afternoon. The whole thing is just as odd as the other team's video, but in fairness you can't throw together anything halfway decent under such ridiculous time constraints. These time constraints are over the top even for this show. Nobody is going to turn out anything but garbage under these conditions.
Geraldo is kind of struggling to get the rhythm right. It doesn't come to him as easy as his huge ego does. For a Latin, I'm surprised, Lorenzo says. Lol. Lorenzo must never be fired.
Lorenzo is not that impressed with crab fisherman, who tries to offer his two cents on some of the shots. Lorenzo thinks all crab fisherman does is put a metal cage in water and pull out crabs from it. I think that was a little harsh from my dear Lorenzo. Fishing the Bering Sea is one of the most dangerous things you can do. And he's not just a line fisherman, he is captain of a boat. That requires an incredible understanding of everything about the weather, the ocean, the huge machine you are at the helm of and all the computers that run it, and so forth. You are also responsible for the lives of those men, and those boats can and do go down and crews are killed if you don't understand what to do in an emergency or even if you do. And at least crab fisherman doesn't exploit any kids and if his reality T.V. series ended today and never came back, he'd still have his normal job and could just go back to normal life. I don't know, I think it's fair to say crab fisherman is probably a bit too quiet on this show and doesn't take the lead enough to see what he's capable of, but I would never, ever insult the work that he does on his boat like I freely make fun of Kate's silly "job" being a reality T.V. mom and D-lister. I still love you though, Lorenzo. I think crab fisherman has his first good point of the whole series other than his comments some time back about what a dolt Kate was. He says they use GoPros left and right on his show, he knows what he is doing with GoPros, and it really gives it a nice viral look. He is right and I said this from the beginning. They should use these GoPros the way they were intended. I don't know what that is, that's for them to figure out.
They are using the GoPros, both teams, like just a regular camera. The problem is this camera isn't designed for that. Use your iPhone camera if you want to just make a regular video. Look at some of the footage they have shown us so far. See how it looks so fish eye? That's because GoPros are a fisheye lens, made that way on purpose because that is the lens you usually want for sweeping, grand shots, a sense of scale, and intense movement. When you use fish eye just for regular shots it looks like something is wrong with your camera, either that or your nose is too big.
Leeza's team is filming the sexy part of the shoot. Brandi and Kenya roll around in a hotel bed while Johnny watches. Wow, I nearly forgot about Johnny. Yikes, I feel like he hasn't said a word in like three episodes. These tight edits can be hard on somebody quiet like him. I never got the lesbian thing for guys but I can sort of try to imagine why men might find this little scenario quite "interesting." I think Leeza is right that this isn't so racy the executives are going to be horrified. She is hopeful they struck a good balance.
Seeing Leeza up close I don't think she's had that much extensive work done, other than on her lips, which aren't even that bad. I'm not counting the odd nip and tuck, bit of botox, filler, here and there. For some reason her eyes get all squinty when she's out and about which gives the illusion she's had more surgery than I think she really has. When she interviews and is relaxed, they don't look like that at all.
Leeza's team is in the editing room and Ian's tackling their edit. It's stressful and taking forever. He doesn't want to hear from anybody else. Brandi thinks they're not branding enough. Ian is getting annoyed and kind of flips out on her. He just wants her to shush. I do wish Leeza would step up here and insist he knock it off.
I-an's name make sense because it's all about "I" to him, Brandi gripes.
Lorenzo takes on the edit for his team. He knows what he's doing here. Do Geraldo and Kate know they can take off their costumes now? Shoot's over. Surprisingly their little rap dance didn't turn out half bad when all is said and done. Lorenzo is such a nice guy and praises the whole team, even Kate.
Time to show the videos to the executives. Leeza's video turned out as they envisioned it. Johnny and Ian watch Brandi and Kenya have a bitch fight in the street, and soon they start seeing them doing sexy wrestling in the bedroom. Then they all enjoy coffee together in bed. This is actually really good for the time constraints, one of the best videos I've seen on Celebrity Apprentice. There is an added layer of goodness to it because Brandi and Kenya have a real life feud that many fans know about. I'm definitely surprised how well it turned out.
Lorenzo's video features Kate and Geraldo doing a retro breakfast with coffee and singing his jingle. Kate can sing on tune, wow I had no idea. They really highlight the branding so much better than the other team, but I think the last half of their video with the dancing in the streets is ultimately sort of pointless. Because the other team's video had a cohesive storyline that was funny and interesting, I think they will win despite maybe falling down about the branding.
Final boardroom of the night!
Trump's feeling especially bored tonight and can't even bother with complete sentences. Weak link, who?! he demands. Hehe. Brandi says Leeza has basically been defacto PM on every task, she's great. Leeza said they spun the feud between Brandi and Kenya into gold. Like Geraldo, this is just what successful people do.
Trump likes her form and presentation. Well, she has an Emmy. This sends Trump on a rant about how he cannot believe he lost when he was up for an Emmy. He walked out. Lol.
Kate starts puttering around about who is the weakest player and takes so long to say something Trump gets bored and moves on to ask Vivica. Well, Kate, of course, Vivica says. Kate lets out her usual sigh of shock and dismay. Vivica's like what? The damn hair took too long. Lol, she hates her. Hates her. I wonder if Kate came into this competition expecting no one to ever throw her under the bus. It's going to happen to almost everyone, why does she think she's above it?
Kenya was mad that during the filming Brandi kept making snide comments to her. Either I don't remember that or it was cut out or it didn't happen. Of course she gets in some backhanded slams at Brandi about how her husband left her for somebody younger and prettier. I really don't think LeeAnn is all that prettier and she can't be that much younger. Brandi and Kenya are both a piece of work.
Lorenzo's video had good branding but it was more like a commercial and not a viral video. As for Leeza's video it really nailed the "viral" aspect of it but the branding wasn't heavy enough, they missed the single serve coffee, but it wasn't even close Leeza's team wins it. I agree, it was a much better video. I'm not surprised Leeza has her own charity called Leeza's Care Connection. I know all about this from back in the day when my old employer was a friend of hers. If I'm not mistaken said employer went to an event or two about it. It's to support caregivers for the ailing, which hits home for me since my family is caring for my dad with Alzheimer's. Leeza too has a parent with Alzheimer's.
Vivica thought the other team's video was too racy. It's pointless to go on about the other team, they won. Vivica would fire Kate because they didn't get the shots they needed because Kate's stupid hair took forever. That hair was dumb. Nobody cares about the hair, it wouldn't have helped them win. Their weak story and concept was why they lost, not the hair. Kate says she is always focused on the details because the devil is in the details but that's just not the case usually. The devil is not in the details. It's not in the hair, the flowers, the heart-shaped cutting boards or the note taking. The devil is in the overall big picture. I cannot believe she is still sitting there with this sort of stupid viewpoint on the competition.
Sigh, it's always me, Kate says. Yeah, ever wonder why you're always the common denominator? I really can't stand the sort of "they always pick on me, I'm bullied" tone in her statement. Much like how she tries to paint the "haters" as just one day they all started to pick on little ole me, she is doing that here with Vivica. Just one day, out of the blue, Vivica decided she hates me! I don't get it, Mr. Trump! Little tear. Bitch, please. Kate is still trying to say that Vivica just appears busy but isn't doing actual work. Projection just dropped an anvil on Kate's head. Vivica is just sort of smiling in disbelief. Kate says in life Kate either does it or kills it. Well that's true, most things she tries she sucks at and they bite the dust in short order.
She moves stealth-like. Lol, what incredible spin. Stealth-like, lol. Edward Kenway is stealth-like. Not Kate.
I think Kate must have meant sloth-like. Malaprop.
Oh, now Kate wants Lorenzo fired. She was all about their concept, cheering and woo-hooing the whole time. Now the concept is shit? And yet she says ultimately Vivica should not be fired. Huh? Then what was the point of all that ranting but to drive a further wedge between them making it impossible to work with her on future tasks? What a doofus.
Poor Lorenzo is having the worst time trying to decide who will he bring back. He feels everyone pulled their weight. No they didn't! What?! Everyone in the suite is like no, Lo, don't do it. Bring somebody back! Anybody!
But Lorenzo has too much honor. He was PM, and he must bear full responsibility for the team. No, Captain, abandon ship, abandon ship! Jump now while you can! There's still time!
Here we go again!!! Due to some other circumstance, a celebrity just not willing to bring anybody back even terrible players, because their incredible honor and moral code commands them to fall on the sword if they were the leader even if a complete dolt is on their team, Kate isn't fired. If Kate had any honor, she would own their time constraints as being all her fault due to her hair, and suggest perhaps she should take the blame. But that will never happen.
Lorenzo, you're fired. Sob!!!! How is Kate still here????
Back in the boardroom the Trumps still can't get over Kenya making that snide remark to Brandi about the younger and beautiful woman. Lol, too funny. None of all this drama that just happened interests them as much as that bitch fight. Even the Trumps can't resist a good Housewife feud. Guess it can suck anyone in.
Aw, a nice little "In Memory of" thing to Joan at the end. Rest in peace, Joan Rivers.
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Mel said...
Nothing like just changing things up on the kids, eh Kate? Notice that they didn't sit on the couch, pout, bad-mouth the pm. They just went with the change in plans.
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Brilliant! And timely too. The hypocrisy boggles the mind.
PJ
Kate stole Ian's hairpiece? http://www.naughtygossip.com/ian-ziering-wig-stole-on-celebrity-apprentice-who-stole-it-kate-gosselin/
“This is a really nasty bunch. They really do hate each other, which makes for good TV. But a line was crossed when someone messed with Ian’s hairpieces. He went crazy and the camera’s were turned off until he could hit the problem,” a source tells NAUGHTY GOSSIP.
Most cast members blame Kate, although whoever did it was never discovered."
Love, love, love the recap! Thank you for the incredible amount of time and energy you put into these.
Bless Joan Rivers, sure do wish she was still with us.
Wish you wouldn't lock comments on the episode already, but such is life. :)
I got a glimpse of Steve in the small boat. He was in the front with one of the boys.
Overall the boys do seem much more alive then the bday special. Maybe because it is summer and they are a little more rested.
I think Kate is trying SO hard to be likeable but you see the real her just on the surface.
I could write 3 pages on Mady but won't because she is getting eaten alive on twitter-although wrong it is 100% her parent's fault. That girl needs major help....
It is plain as day that Hannah has picked up on the madydramatic, but Leah and Alexis are not much nicer.
For as strict about some things that Kate is, wouldn't you think that she would be the kind of parent that demanded respect? Yes ma'am etc....not the constant bickering and back talk.
It is obvious the teens could careless about how they come off on TV. That is worrisome as well.
On twitter yesterday, Vivica was responding to someone about CA. She said to stay tuned, it gets juicy.
Please, please tell us that TFW gets called out. Please.
Another awesome recap, Admin! You killed it (but in the good way!).
Just to give you a little perspective about how long Lorenzo has
been in the business -- he was in "Grease" in 1978, playing the
dumb jock boyfriend Sandy tries to replace Danny with. So while
he was working on the set of one of the biggest movie musicals
of all time, TFW was only 3 years old. But now that she's told
us she was VERY mature for her age, perhaps she was doing
her family's taxes already.
Great recap, Admin.
My thoughts on the first episode:
sKate can cut the puritan crap about the penis comment. She' had 8, count 'em, 8 kids. She knows where babies come from. And her and the Flying Monkey? Bitch, please.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the brainstorming session, did sKate not say, "Shoes and coffee? I'm in!" ? Or am I confusing that with something else.
I know nothing about the production of these shows, but is it unreasonable to assume that when they go "shopping" that the vehicles are at the ready and the stores are pre-planned? If so, why does it take a fuckety-hundred hours to grab what they need?
Admin said... "Although she's heavily coached, I hate to say it she does a good job turning this right back around and making her, and the doofus's next to her, total lack of energy, creativity and overall effectiveness into all Vivica's fault. Well played. "
Admin, I'm not sure why you're surprised and impressed by this.(that's the impression I got) She's made a career out of twisting things and blaming others.
Vivica calls her out on her lies. This was the highlight of the show for. Only stupid sheeple would miss that this is the first time on film that that has happened.
Now, on to the second episode.
PJ
Crab fisherman is a little disconcerted, all the tasks have been so women-oriented he can't find his penis in the morning. He says this. Kate shushes him, as she is a paragon of virtue. After all she has eight kids she is the role model for, and that comment was inappropriate. Kate totally seems like one of those women who can't stand words like penis and vagina and still call them pee-pee and cha-cha because she has never grown up.
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That's because she's so euphemisticish.
Has Kate been in every single boardroom on every task her team lost on? Blog historian? I think so! LOL
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Yep! Every time!! Three times so far!
BTW, the Apprentice 14 Wiki page has some great graphics that summarize the show so far, plus recaps of each episode.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apprentice_(U.S._season_14)
Great recap again! Thank you for all your time and effort in writing these recaps. They are very much appreciated.
Don't care about recaps for Kate plus 8. You can get an idea of what that is about just by reading Kate's twitter timeline.
I finally saw those Radar photos and my question is: why has Kate gotten out of her vehicle in the rain to open the car door? Guess? Because she knew there was a pap in the parking lot.
I agree, she has a talent, but not in a good way. Manipulating. I've seen anything like it.
I had just "assumed" that Kate already went to Paris when she tweeted about her new French yogurt maker and having to find a converter to fit US outlets. JMO.
Katie Malooly @katiemalooly · 32m32 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 You going out to help the quadruplets = Kate + 8 episode idea
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I'm sure that's exactly what Kate has in mind.
I think that if it is true that Trump only considers the task at hand, then that is why TFW is able to slither by. Because, if you look at the cumulative effort and and contribution she has made, at least on the team she is on, she has done the least. but, if flowers were enough to save her last time, then why didn't screwing up the entire shooting schedule get her kicked off?
One of the few things that stood out from DWTS was when she was sitting in the chair, saying that she knows that they build in all of this extra time so she doesn't have to show up at her appointed time (or something like that). And, that was on a LIVE show! I am convinced that her crazed Papparazzi hair and makeup was revenge of the hair and makeup folks. But, of course, even that worked out for her as she was able to reprise her look at her "first" Emmy show.
I think that the team challenge concept does seem to benefit weak participants. If the team wins, it doesn't matter what each individual did, because they are all safe, and even if one person on the winning team is the worst, a better player from the losing team goes home.
I'm now completely convinced Trump is stockpiling evidence of Kate's noncontribution to every stinking project she participated in. I think firing her will be the highlight of this season for him. lol!
The time they wasted on Kate's hair could have been shaved down (pun intended) to about 20 minutes if they'd just plopped a wig on her head. Kate sure does love Ted Gibson & Co.
Once again Admin you hit it out of the ballpark with the recaps. Many thanks!
A question from the previous post:
What's the lesson here?
We put the lobster through all this stress, took them out of their living and breathing environment for nothing?
If you intend to release, then catch and release. Don't catch and keep them out of water for hours when you know you're not going to kill them and eat them. 89
I know I'll.sound naive, but is Thi what actually happened? She had live lobsters and a pot of boiling water and then didn't cook them? All for drama on a stupid reality show? Not to mention freaking out the kids.
As Tucker's said ( paraphrasing) honor where you food comes from.
About Sig's comment about not finding it in the mornings, sKate has the nerve to say anything to him for saying it. She had 8 kids. Remember, when she and Jon were relaxed, years ago and she mentioned something about his manhood but it was mild and how good? it was and Jon and her were google-ly about it?
Then when she kicked Jon to the curb, the horrible slang she called his manhood was repulsive! She should not of done that. When she shushed? Sig, it would of been a scream if he told her, STHeckUp, S****Y!
Jane said... 2
Kate stole Ian's hairpiece? http://www.naughtygossip.com/ian-ziering-wig-stole-on-celebrity-apprentice-who-stole-it-kate-gosselin/
“This is a really nasty bunch. They really do hate each other, which makes for good TV. But a line was crossed when someone messed with Ian’s hairpieces. He went crazy and the camera’s were turned off until he could hit the problem,” a source tells NAUGHTY GOSSIP.
Most cast members blame Kate, although whoever did it was never discovered."
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He doesn't seem to be a fan:
Ian Ziering @IanZiering
1/19/15, 11:40 PM
@MsVivicaFox Toot your own horn, bep beep.. Hysterical.
Kate is a twit said... 9
Don't care about recaps for Kate plus 8. You can get an idea of what that is about just by reading Kate's twitter timeline.
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I read some of the comments on facebook. It sounds like the show has become Mady & Kate Plus 7. Mady's taken over the role of the villain and Kate is the martyred mother who has to put up with a lippy daughter.
Yep, she'll get mileage out that one and continue to film the insanity rather than shut it down and get her kids the professional help they need.
It's so very clear why Jon is trying to "sabotage" her efforts.
great recap admin, loved it!
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the teams are given the tasks waaaayyy before the filming? I find it pretty unbelievable that skhate had such vision and decent ideas when they were brainstorming for the coffee commercial. She's just not that creative and quick thinking.No way, no how. I believe they have time to work on the tasks, "like"in the evening--"like"in a hotel room----"like" with someone with claws? like sharpening skhates?
skhate plus 8?
Wonder if the dollar bills she was handing out was an "extra" perk along with the paycheck? That grated on my nerves. Bitch, that's THEIR money!!
But now that she's told
us she was VERY mature for her age, perhaps she was doing
her family's taxes already.
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Yeah, and skimming off the top
Please, please tell us that TFW gets called out. Please
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That would deserve a few Rumspringa toasts for sure!
It is obvious the teens could careless about how they come off on TV. That is worrisome as well.
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I don't think they have the maturity to realize what kind of reaction/feedback and comments their behavior will get them. Again, this is their mother's fault. She also seems to encourage the Mady labels with her continuous belly aching and negativity towards her.Plus, when has their "mother" ever worried about how SHE comes across?
Oh yeah, on this episode.
From last thread.....
Midnight Madness said... 67
How jealous Gladys must be, and why wasn't Paige asked? Hmmmm....
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Paige is not rich. She can't afford to travel long distances or work for free. A long time ago, when someone was trying to arrange a meeting with fans and K, Paige made it clear that she couldn't afford to go. She also couldn't do the cruise.
I think Paige has, for the most part, moved on from her infatuation with K. Ironically, it started fading after they met in person.
But now that she's told
us she was VERY mature for her age, perhaps she was doing
her family's taxes already.
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And by "mature", she means....living with her boyfriend in his mom's house?
Kate won't allow the kids to drive until they're 18 because she wants to control them, and everywhere they go, and everything they say.
I'm betting she will try to keep them from having social media accounts to.
I don't know how those kids are supposed to work to buy a car for themselves if they can't drive to a job and earn money.
It's all b.s. anyway. She can't stop Jon from teaching them how to drive and taking them for their permits.
I'm sure she's planning on trying, though.
Okay, part deux:
Vivica looking busy and doing nothing? That's sKate's standard M.O. She actually creates more work for the people around her.
The "rap" video was just sad. So glad it was sKate's idea. Lame.
I thought Chock Full of Nuts was coffee? Why is she trying to look like the Swiss Miss Hot Chocolate mascot? http://kiggins.blogspot.ca/2014/07/swiss-miss.html
Eye-Ann is a douche nozzle. I wish Brandi and Kenya had laid a beating on HIM.
I loved Leeza's final video. Hilarious.
Leanne prettier? Bitch, please. In what universe?
"It's always me." Yes, yes it is. Coincidence? I think not.
PJ
From last night's tweets. I'm not sure that I'm following who said what correctly...but it looks like Vivica is agreeing that TFW's attitude sucks.
xxx@xxx22h22 hours ago
Why are @Kateplusmy8 fans so obsessed with the flowers? The flowers made no difference. They didn't win the task! #BeepBeep
xxx @xxx 22h22 hours ago
Deflecting away from the real problem. Kate says she's a team player but her attitude sucks.
Vivica A. FoxVerified account @MsVivicaFox
@mscatie @ConcernedChick Agreed n well said! Stay tuned 4 more @ApprenticeNBC #TeamFox #TeamVivica #SuccessIsntBuiltFromExcuses;-)
She finally jumps in: Rescue me? Nope, hag, never said that. Bitch, don't put words in my mouth. She orders Kate to tell the story correctly! Lol! Kate's all stammering now.
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yeah, loved that scene!
I also think that when we see skhate hugging Shawn, it 's because she rushed over to her to play pretend sympathy. Vivica and skhate both got up at the same time from their chairs, Shawn was already out the door. How did that slimey weasel get out those doors while Vivica was still almost in the room?
Great recap, Admin. I was laughing out loud. Kate, sloth-like during her CA appearances rather than stealth-like is exactly right.
PJ @#7
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the brainstorming session, did sKate not say, "Shoes and coffee? I'm in!" ? Or am I confusing that with something else.
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Yes, she did! What a perfect example of her just saying whatever pops into that empty head of hers at the moment. What is it, Kate, coffee and shoes and you're there or you don't get the coffee and shoes concept. She may be the most infuriating person on the planet. LOL
Then on the couch she say something like,"I we lived near water, I'd be dropping the kids off at school and I'd be out rowing every day." Huh?
I don't watch the shows. Kate said that? She does live near the water. She could drop off the kids at school and head for the Susquehanna...boating, fishing. Her knowledge of what is around her is just pathetic.
IndianaAnny @CandyDishes 24m24 minutes ago
@RealZiggyFlo @EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 That would be great! How bout it, @TLC? More Emily Pls!
Emily Creighton
@EmCr68
@CandyDishes @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 @TLC hahaha you guys crack me up!! We'll just have to wait and see! ;)
Great recap Admin! Love this show as it is like a sociological experiment showing cast flaws and strengths, and how they operate under great stress. TFW has definitely had verbal coaching, but you can't change personality.
BTW- Lorenzo Lamas is a class act! Quietly did a great job, no huge ego, and had to deal with that crew. Adore him. Unlike the other ego maniacs.
Kate is a twit said... 9
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Thanks for the great link, as always. You are awesome with details and historical data. : )
Love the recap! Thank you so much!
I think Lorenzo must have just wanted out of CA and took the opportunity to be noble and take the cab ride home. Or maybe he got to take in a Broadway show.
One of my favorite movies is Kill Bill, parts one and two. Viveca and Uma Thurman have the first kick ass catfight in part 1, it's fantastic. TFMJG has obviously never seen this movie, otherwise she would know better than to attack Viveca. She could physically whoop TFMJG if she wanted to.
*They're going to make a viral video promoting single serve coffees from a local brand called Chock Full o' Nuts.*
I know what they meant by viral video but how can it go viral before it even hits the vast interwebs frontier? Silly Oxy Morons.
As for Kenya's team the whole thing was totally off brand, Ivanka's like, stopping in the middle of the day for a foot massage is just strange. Lol, so true.
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Unless there's copious hand washing with real facilities, not Purell-ing in between toe-cheese rubbing, you ain't coming near my piggies.
Sorry, this grossed me out.
Whoa there, Emily -- TFW doesn't like other people getting too
much attention on her show. Just ask Aunt Jodi...
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I had just "assumed" that Kate already went to Paris when she tweeted about her new French yogurt maker and having to find a converter to fit US outlets. JMO.
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Maybe Em bought it for Kate. Either way, who buys a French electrical product that doesn't plug into U.S. outlets???
Someone trying to impress Kate.
Does anyone think Emily is a user like her Queen Kate? She follows a lot of celebs, has pictures posted of them with her, and goes on and on about their talent, etc. It just seems odd to me that she tries so hard to get attention from celebrities. That would be funny if she kicked Kate to the curb should something better come along. Emily now has Goody, Ziggy and a few other Kate fans honing in on her. That tweet to Ziggy and troupe says a lot about being on TLC and having to just wait and see.
but, if flowers were enough to save her last time, then why didn't screwing up the entire shooting schedule get her kicked off?
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Because Lorenzo fell on his sword. If Lorenzo brought back Kate and another person to the boardroom, Trump might have taken Kate's history into consideration and fired her.
Lorenzo pulled his weight way more than Kate, and his expertise came in very handy.
There went the eye candy ;-(
Lanc Native, I took that remark as meaning living "on" water property. She really has a colossal imagination. And it just proves what a liar she is because from what I'm understanding, her behavior did not indicate she's a water lover.
He called me up yesterday and he's like, I still love you. And I'm like, I'm just, I mean this is exhausting, you know? Like, we are never getting back together, like ever.
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So glad to hear you've moved on. He must have been an unbearable dinner companion. One of those me, me, me kind of guys.
Does anyone think Emily is a user like her Queen Kate?
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Well, Emily has tweeted about appearing in theater productions and how she loves being on stage. Maybe she thinks that being on Kate's show will be her big break into the theatrical world.
I DVD'd the show and watched some of it. I saw where Kate let the twins and their friend stay on the island by themselves while she and the tups went trolling for lobster. I'm sure those girls were not alone by themselves. Most likely, she left Emily with them to keep an eye on them.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Ha...I guess you didn't get 2sleep in? So I see a Saturday #SnoozeIn coming! :)
I'm surprised that Milo doesn't have a text alert from the school or local news online, announcing delays, early dismissals and cancellations! You're slipping, Gladys! Let's get with it!
She is so obsessed with Kate's sleeping habits (and Kate being in bed) that it's absolutely creepy.
I did not watch TFW's show. I much prefer "Supernatural". Hot guys over a hot mess anytime for me! LOL
Also only caught bits and pieces of CA. That being said, if I was the executive of the coffee company, I would be very unhappy that everybody kept calling it Chock Full of Nuts. It's Chock Full O' Nuts. Getting the name of the product wrong should have had both teams getting a huge lecture from DT. Did that happen in the boardroom?
Why did they not just get a June Cleaver wig? They are cheap. Also found everywhere. TFW's hair did not look like June Cleaver or anything 50's. A weird Princess Leah from star wars maybe. The only thing 50ish about the beginning of that commercial was the black and white. Geraldo should have known better. He should remember the 50's.
And it just proves what a liar she is because from what I'm understanding, her behavior did not indicate she's a water lover. 43
She continuously rewrites her own history and the sheeple aid and abet her.
Sorry for all the typos in my last comment.
One of my favorite movies is Kill Bill, parts one and two. Viveca and Uma Thurman have the first kick ass catfight in part 1, it's fantastic. TFMJG has obviously never seen this movie, otherwise she would know better than to attack Viveca. She could physically whoop TFMJG if she wanted to.
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Vivica could give Kate the 5-point-palm exploding-heart-technique.
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Lanc Native, I took that remark as meaning living "on" water property. She really has a colossal imagination. And it just proves what a liar she is because from what I'm understanding, her behavior did not indicate she's a water lover.
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But, Kate said herself that she's not waterish. Of course, she did, because who the f*ck else talks like this?
Point being, Kate changes the narrative and doesn't keep track of her lies.
I'm finding Geraldo surprisingly likeable on CA. I never could stand him but I'm kind of liking him.
"Kate should have checked the weather and pointed that out if she wanted to get what she wanted."
Ha! You've got to be kidding! Kate check the weather? Where was Kravitz when Kate needed the weather checked for that shoot? TFW couldn't even check last night and was hoping for a school delay this morning when all weather stations were reporting that the snow wasn't supposed to start until noon or later (and they were correct). Dingbat.
Once again, great recap, admin!
Kate's hairstyle wasn't 50s, it was 40s, rather like this:
http://glamourdaze.com/2012/02/vintage-1940s-beauty-secrets-hair-and.html
Regarding Em, I think she's pretty much into herself. She often tweets how gorgeous Kate is then tweets how she and Kate look like sisters.
Emily Creighton
@EmCr68
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 oh gee TY! I was quite flattered that my friends&family couldnt decipher the diff between me & k8! Lol👯#blondes
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I'm finding Geraldo surprisingly likeable on CA. I never could stand him but I'm kind of liking him.
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He seems to enjoy mocking his own egotism. It's kind of hilarious. Ian on the other hand is just plain obnoxious.
I agree based on all her tweets, Em is into herself. She is just using Kate as much as Kate is using her. She lives vicariously though Kate and lives for what Kate can bring to the table for her, like a brush with celerity, cameras, the VIP life. This is all about Em, and has little to do with her truly caring about Kate or these kids. Oh I'm sure she's convinced herself she loves and cares so much, but deep down it's coming purely from a selfish, opportunistic place.
As for Geraldo at first I thought he really is this egotistical, now I do think he IS mocking himself, playing a character. Just for shits and giggles. Saying the most outrageous narcissistic thing he can think of because it's rather a hoot to just play it like that. He is narcissistic for sure but not THAT bad.
I wouldn't rule out TLC footing the bill for a Gosseln trip to
Europe somewhere down the line. There's only 10 of them
(I'm including Purse Boy) -- half what it'd cost for the Duggars.
Let's face it -- the G family offers guaranteed eyeballs, which
is what TLC wants. And the more humble (read: cheap) the accommodations, the more drama they can wring out of TFW.
As they say in Paris, oy gevalt.
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AND if any1 knows how to contact the Morales family/friends personally...I'd love2reach out 2 them directly...email me: kate@kateplusmy8.com
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Wow. While I hate to slam her for at least trying to think of others, I really don't think it's appropriate for her to reach out to them. Sort of like rubbing her happy healthy family in their face. Now if Jon were dead, she personally knows them, or she had some other tragedy similar to them and it would actually give them comfort to hear from her, that makes sense. She has no tact or perspective and doesn't understand a move to contact them could seem like rubbing good fortune in their face. Give a quiet donation and leave it at that unless they contact you.
He said something but I don't think that was it exactly. Personally I intend to be with my animals after death, as you can tell from my name. Heaven wouldn't be heaven if I wasn't reunited with those who were part of my soul in life.
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I read something once where it said heaven is where you are perfectly happy and if you need your dog or other pet to be happy then he/she will be there. I thought that made a lot of sense.
But, Kate said herself that she's not waterish. Of course, she did, because who the f*ck else talks like this?
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And who the f@$# as freaking childish "meltdown" in a kayak/canoe that's in about 1 foot of water, yet joyfully jumps into metal cage to check out sharks?
There wasn't a fraction of the scene she made her when she was in Australia
Mady is getting slammed not only on Twitter but on FB. Kate did this! Rather than exposing her behavior on national television, that child should be getting some professional help for her anger issues. I would imagine that her father is livid right now. Kate is not going to stop, no matter what it does to her children. Shameful.
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Does anyone think Emily is a user like her Queen Kate? She follows a lot of celebs, has pictures posted of them with her, and goes on and on about their talent, etc. It just seems odd to me that she tries so hard to get attention from celebrities. That would be funny if she kicked Kate to the curb should something better come along. Emily now has Goody, Ziggy and a few other Kate fans honing in on her. That tweet to Ziggy and troupe says a lot about being on TLC and having to just wait and see
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I have nieces her age and her tweets and obsession with older women celebrities are very weird. Plus, you rarely see her tweet to or get tweets from peers. She's in college! Most of her social media should be about friends and college life, not Cher and Kate Gosselin
To me, anything TFW does, or claims to do, for the family of the
quadruplets is tainted by the fact that she wrote in her journal
about being glad another mother with multiple embryos had
suffered a miscarriage.
Admin, wonderful recap! I am going to miss Lorenzo - he was some mighty fine eye candy and seemed quite likable to boot.
I wish they would have shown much much more of Joan Rivers. It's strange. They kept in too much conversation about why Keisha should have contacted Cosby for a donation, when I think a lot of that footage should have been ditched. On the other hand, they include so little of Joan Rivers? Strange decisions.
I definitely loved when Viveca called out Kate on her lies. Loved it! I really wish the editors didn't have to cut out so much, because I too would have liked to see more of the interactions between Kate and Viveca prior to this scene. When Viveca, Kate and Shawn were sitting outside the boardroom waiting to be called back in, Shawn and Kate both acted like petulant teens, refusing to look at or speak to Viveca. I really hope Shawn watches her performance and behavior on CA and is mortified enough to try to change her attitude.
Does anyone know if contestants on CA are paid a flat rate, no matter their length of time on the show? Or do they earn a certain amount for each week that they remain? Just curious.
The hair TFW sported in the coffee commercial reminded me of some 1940's movie actress. #joancrawford
yet joyfully jumps into metal cage to check out sharks?
Was there ever proof that she really did that? Or was it just implied?
(Not being obnoxious wanting a link, I just always thought that seemed a little staged.)
Sue_Buddy - yep. 40's - if she had had the ends pinned up under. Long straight hair was out in the 50's. Straight hair in general was out as well, as I can attest having had to endure *spoolies* and Toni perms. Ugh.
On the up side, in the 60's and 70's I never had to iron my hair :)
Completely off topic, but had to share:
Many of you know that I have one child, a son, now almost 17. On Sunday, I was out until the late afternoon. When I walked in the door, my son met me and basically walked me back outside. I'm confused, asking him what's wrong? Did you get in an accident with the car? Well, it turns out he has a girlfriend (his first) and they've been "dating" for about a month and a half, and he had invited her over to hang out. He didn't tell me about having a g/f because he thought I might freak out.
Okay, it did hit me like a bag of potatoes, because he's my little boy, except now he's nearly a foot taller than me. However, I did not freak out. Went back inside and met the girlfriend, who is this tiny thing! 4'11" Cute as a button. We chatted and then she headed on home. Turns out she's a senior, extremely bright and ambitious, will probably be class valedictorian, and hopes to go to Stanford.
I had a long talk with my son, explaining that I don't want him to have his g/f over unless I'm home. Discussed the birds and the bees until he said he'd rather discuss the details with his doctor. However, he assured me that they have "not done anything." I believe him. What a roller coaster though. I am happy for my son, as she seems like a very nice young lady with her head on straight.
Another milestone in motherhood. I have mixed feelings!
I agree based on all her tweets, Em is into herself. She is just using Kate as much as Kate is using her. She lives vicariously though Kate and lives for what Kate can bring to the table for her, like a brush with celerity, cameras, the VIP life. This is all about Em, and has little to do with her truly caring about Kate or these kids. Oh I'm sure she's convinced herself she loves and cares so much, but deep down it's coming purely from a selfish, opportunistic place.
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Bingo. You nailed it. Read her timeline. Look at the pictures. She's a starstruck younger who is so into this celebrity thing...who she knows, getting backstage passes, and just being able to brag about how close she is with these people. She's either going to outgrow it, or it's going to turn into a major obsession, much worse than it is now. I have a feeling that she's going to keep "collecting" these celebrities for her own egotistical pleasures, and if it's not nipped in the bud now, it's going to be her life's goal.
Pope Francis said " "Sacred Scripture teaches us that the fulfillment of this marvelous plan cannot but involve everything that surrounds us and came from the heart and mind of God."
Kate will probably send them a copy of "Multiple Blessings" as her way of helping.
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yet joyfully jumps into metal cage to check out sharks?
Was there ever proof that she really did that? Or was it just implied?
(Not being obnoxious wanting a link, I just always thought that seemed a little staged.)
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true Mel, the sharks never did materialize
but she did suit up, jump in the ocean and got in that cage, all underwater
so the stupid shrieking and squealing in that dingy makes no sense
fidosmommy said... 64
The hair TFW sported in the coffee commercial reminded me of some 1940's movie actress. #joancrawford
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not just the hair
Kate said animals have no souls? There's projection if ever there was.
AuntieAnn said... 73
Kate said animals have no souls? There's projection if ever there was.
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Millicent said... 67
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Well, it sounds like your son has good taste!
It's tough to think of your child as an almost adult.
I can see a young man telling his mom to just stop- I'll talk to my doctor about that stuff!
And by "mature", she means....living with her boyfriend in his mom's house?
Kate won't allow the kids to drive until they're 18 because she wants to control them, and everywhere they go, and everything they say
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I see history repeating itself. tfw had her little rebellion, and if we believe Robert's account, was a pregnant teen who had an abortion, moved into a boyfriend's basement and was also promiscuous. She also admits she was OVER disciplined...
r. I'm sure those girls were not alone by themselves. Most likely, she left Emily with them to keep an eye on them.
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And maybe with the cameraman who may or may not be a child pornographer??
Vanessa said... 71
true Mel, the sharks never did materialize
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Masterful recap, Admin! Thanks for all the laugh-out-loud comments and descriptions!
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And by "mature", she means....living with her boyfriend in his mom's house?
Kate won't allow the kids to drive until they're 18 because she wants to control them, and everywhere they go, and everything they say
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I see history repeating itself. tfw had her little rebellion, and if we believe Robert's account, was a pregnant teen who had an abortion, moved into a boyfriend's basement and was also promiscuous. She also admits she was OVER disciplined...
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I just can't believe that she's decided that all 8 kids will not drive until 18.
It's my observation that it's rare in this day and age, to hold kids back. Most can get their permit at 15, and require many hours of practice with a licensed driver.
Something seems off in Kate's reasoning, not that it surprises me.
I believe it's part of Kate's grand plan to keep filming them until 18, and beyond.
Millicent said... 63
Admin, wonderful recap! I am going to miss Lorenzo - he was some mighty fine eye candy and seemed quite likable to boot.
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Ah, but my boyfriend, Johnny, is still there! That is all that matters at this point! Does anyone know when The Donald will give him the pink slip? No, admin, you cannot have him!
I have a feeling that she's going to keep "collecting" these celebrities for her own egotistical pleasures, and if it's not nipped in the bud now, it's going to be her life's goal.
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Me too. I do hope this is just a phase she outgrows. She may forget about it when she gets a boyfriend.
She is far too pretty, smart, and advantaged to chase after this nonsense. I can see her making a glamorous career for herself in Boston or NY doing whatever, fashion, writing, TV production, whatever. But that's not going to happen if she's distracted by this stuff.
I just can't believe that she's decided that all 8 kids will not drive until 18.
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Yeah well, give it about another year and she'll be overruled on that one. I see eight kids itching to get the hell out of that madhouse and she knows it. She's fast losing control just like we've been saying all along.
NYY Julianna (#81), now you've done it -- telling Admin she
can't have Johnny will only make her want him more. You
should've told her to keep her hands off of Sig -- she'd be
renting out a fishing boat to find him by the end of the day!
It came out today that the footballs in the Colts and Patriots game were DEFLATED by 2 lbs. per ball. 11 out of 12 game balls.
I smell conspiracy. I think TFW did it! She is really an expert at deflating balls!
Ah, but my boyfriend, Johnny, is still there! That is all that matters at this point! Does anyone know when The Donald will give him the pink slip? No, admin, you cannot have him!
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I think Johnny makes it through next week, since some spoiler sites have it that Sig and Kate are the ones to go.
I think Johnny is the PM for the boat challenge, and his team wins. The survivorsucks website has a tweet from him thanking a band for helping his team get the win. Johnny has since deleted that tweet.
So there at least 3 more tasks that include Johnny. Two next week, and the first one of the following week.
Hey, can someone here, who is good with tech stuff, do a slow frame thing on Kate as she walks past the window, when she took the kids to go buy souvenirs. Kate was walking past a picture window, and you can see the camera guy and a few other people, one might have been purseboy in the reflection.
Katie Malooly @katiemalooly · 32m32 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 You going out to help the quadruplets = Kate + 8 episode idea
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Horrible. This 'fan' should be ashamed of herself.
I just can't believe that she's decided that all 8 kids will not drive until 18.
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The younger children may well have to wait until they are 18, but as soon as Kate realizes she can delegate chauffeur duties, the twins will have their licenses and be buying their own big blue bus faster than you can clip in an extension.
Oh, yes, there is NO doubt in my mind that Miss Emily is hoping for her big break in television or theater or movies due to her friendship with one Ms. Kate Gosselin. No doubt at all.
As for not allowing her kids to drive until age 18....I do believe Mady will be the one to help Kate toss that idea to the wind. "Not gonna let me get my license with the rest of my peers? Then I'm not filming anymore!"
Did we call this or did we call this? We called this like 2 years ago. Kate was just looking for a free nanny and she got one in Emily. #called-it How transparent. Way to use a fan's obsession to get a freebie. Opportunists, both of them. How much of a background check on this fan who doesn't even live in the same state did Kate do anyway? If she weren't so pretty and put together would Kate still trust her? Or is she fine because she "looks" the part?
Who remembers on J&K+8 when they were meeting with
prospective nannies, and they tried out a pretty young
Emily-ish blonde, and TFW nixed her? She said something
like, "She was too aware of the cameras." Ms. Projection
strikes again!
What is this feud between Vivica and Kate? Why does she dislike TFW so much? Has anything come out in the media about this, or is this just a cat fight scripted for drama?
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Something happened in episode two maybe I think. Whatever it was we didn't see it. But Vivica went from indifference to hate just like that. Kate did something that rubbed Vivica the wrong way. What, we may never know. Maybe she just thinks she's a dolt.
Plus, Kate dating Jeff Prescott is obviously a PR tool, right? She’s already discussed her dating life in the media and her rumored new boyfriend, playing it just coy enough to keep rumors circulating. Kate has years and years of experience of famewhoring and media manipulation, and she knows when to take advantage of an opportunity like this when she sees it.
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2015/kate-gosselin-dating-millionaire-boyfriend-jeff-prescott-secret-bankruptcy-past/
Rainbirdie, that tweet just made me sick. Her having an episode of her going to the quads. UGH! What is wrong with these people!
Admin (#82), now that we know Emily thought "Stepford wife" was
a compliment to TFW, I'm not too convinced she's that smart.
Something happened in episode two maybe I think. Whatever it was we didn't see it. But Vivica went from indifference to hate just like that. Kate did something that rubbed Vivica the wrong way. What, we may never know. Maybe she just thinks she's a dolt.
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Vivica was PM for the Luvo task. That's the task where Kate and Shawn spent 6 hours shopping. I'm sure something else happened during that task that caused Vivica's animosity. I'm sure if they had lost that task, Vivica would've brought Kate into the boardroom.
And in the next task, Jamie brought Kate into the boardroom, so I don't think the team was too pleased with Kate.
Trying to stop them from getting their permits at 16 when everyone else is, is just about the most unrealistic thing I've ever heard. While she is right that a 16 year old is probably not ready to drive, the law is the law and the cultural norm of driving at that age is so incredibly overwhelming it's like pushing a boulder uphill to try to stop your child from doing it. She's going to drive that wedge so deep any benefit will be outweighed by their fractured relationship. And you're NOT saving them from the road, they're still going to get in the car of another 16 year old behind the wheel, you're not going to be able to stop them from doing that. If anything they're just going to get sneakier.
Look at it this way, at least when they are 16 you can force them to take driver's ed, make rules like you have to be in the car, and control how they learn. When they are 18 you lose that control and they can tell ya see ya, never get the practice in the car with you, never take driver's ed, never have your oversight.
It's that old proverbial pull the reins too tight. Pull them too tight and they'll just break them. And in this case they'll run straight over to their father's who lives on planet earth and allows them to too.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 19m19 minutes ago
@beach_tammy @Kateplusmy8 I second that Tammy. It's Kate's life & her children. End of story. Kids are healthy & happy & that's what counts.
Unfortunately, for those children, it's not the end of the story. We have no idea what is yet to come for them, and how they have been affected by Kate's exploitation of her kids. I refuse to watch the shows, but from what I read, Mady is anything but a happy camper.
So Kate won't let the twins drive until they're 18, but she brags about Mady driving the Gator at 14?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Nov 16
Mady drove our gator on neighbors driveway-2get chicken food! Let's just say, I'm NOT going to make a good driving teacher! #Shrieks&Screams
If she weren't so pretty and put together would Kate still trust her? Or is she fine because she "looks" the part?
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She's fine because she's a trust-fund baby and her parents obviously have money. That's all Kate needs to make her happy.
Hey, can someone here, who is good with tech stuff, do a slow frame thing on Kate as she walks past the window, when she took the kids to go buy souvenirs. Kate was walking past a picture window, and you can see the camera guy and a few other people, one might have been purseboy in the reflection.
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What would they look for? He goes everywhere with them. Of course he was there.
Kate's comment that she won't allow the kids to drive until they are 18 made me think of three things:
1. Control. She is unwilling to give up her control over those kids until they legally become adults (if even then!).
2. Cheapness. Not sure how it works in PA, but in CA, you have to pay for driver's ed and driver's training unless you are 18 or over. My son did an on-line driver's ed program which didn't cost too much. Then he had to take 3 lessons from a certified driving instructor, which was $150 per session. If it's something similar in PA, of course Kate wouldn't want to spend that money x 8.
3. More cheapness: insurance rates are sky high for new drivers. I was considering including comprehensive coverage for my son's car (to cover theft or a broken window), but it's nearly $1,300 every six months for just that coverage. However, if Cara and Mady both got their licenses at age 16, she could put them on the same car and the rate would be the same. Buy a reliable used car that's perhaps 5 years old, and have them share the vehicle. A millionaire ought to be able to afford that!
I don't believe I had to have my son's father sign his approval in order that my son get his driver's permit. If the same holds true in PA, Jon should be able to sign his permission for each child to obtain their driver's permit. Maybe by then, he could even afford to buy an older inexpensive vehicle, purchase liability insurance only, and thereby the kids could have a vehicle to drive. Just because it would drive Kate buggy, I hope he does help out any of his children that want to drive before turning 18.
However, I have noticed a small but seemingly growing trend among teens, who are not particularly eager to get their licenses at age 16. One of my nephews only got his driver's license shortly before he turned 20! Before that, he would catch the bus, catch a ride from his mom or his younger sister, or ride his bike. I've heard similar stories from other parents. (Still, if I were one of those 8 kids, I think I'd want freedom in the form of a driver's license.)
That Dupont guy was a trust fund baby obsessed with Olympians who used his money to weasel his way into their lives and successes. So he could be the one fanning them with a towel, around the latest and greatest, be in their world. I am telling you, that is a movie about a FAN if nothing else.
Of course the Dupont guy was not what he seemed and finally shot one of them. A guy he loved and was obsessed with.
Kate? You're an idiot.
However, I have noticed a small but seemingly growing trend among teens, who are not particularly eager to get their licenses at age 16. One of my nephews only got his driver's license shortly before he turned 20! Before that, he would catch the bus, catch a ride from his mom or his younger sister, or ride his bike. I've heard similar stories from other parents. (Still, if I were one of those 8 kids, I think I'd want freedom in the form of a driver's license.)
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Admittedly, the boys I nannied for had no great desire to get their licenses at 16. I was shocked. They would honestly rather be shuttled around by the staff and play on their iphones. They had the sort of laziness a lot of teens have where they just didn't want to bother with classes, studying for a test, going through the paperwork, etc. Sort of a I'll get around to it attitude. One of them even said driving kind of scared him. I couldn't believe it. Could be a CA thing. Also could be we get a lot of car accidents in this area. Then they got girlfriends and suddenly driving was on their minds cause suddenly it was nerdy to have the assistant bringing them to movies.
That said, I can't imagine all eight kids will feel this way. Even if a few are not ready at 16 or are indifferent, the odds that all 8 are fine with waiting until 18 is just not in her favor. Good luck with that.
That Max Factor trust fund baby, Andrew Luster was a handsome, rich guy. But, he was a BC, drugging and raping women.
Ted Bundy was very handsome, hung around colleges with a suit on and a pair of crutches pretending that he needed help to unsuspecting young college girls. Don't know if he was well off financially, but we all know what happened in his case.
Just because someone is cute, pretty and rich doesn't mean they are saints.
Katie Malooly @katiemalooly · 32m32 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 You going out to help the quadruplets = Kate + 8 episode idea
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Horrible. This 'fan' should be ashamed of herself.
True. Except that we all know TFW does nothing out of the goodness of her heart, and that tweeter is probably closer to the truth than not.
Anyone who rejoices when someone miscarries isn't above what that tweeter is suggesting, imo.
"So there at least 3 more tasks that include Johnny. Two next week, and the first one of the following week."
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Whew! Thanks, Kate Is A Twit! I just wish that they would show much more of him! *Much* more!
If I told Admin that Geraldo is my boyfriend, would she want him? Ducking, Admin, don't hit me!
On Wendy Williams today, she had a very nice picture of Jon on Hot Topics and I couldn't hear what was being said, but he was on for a couple of minutes it seems. Couldn't get off the phone. I have tried to find the video. Does anyone have a link?
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Vanessa said... 71
true Mel, the sharks never did materialize
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Ha ha!
She's got ice flowing through those veins, they never got a whiff of blood
Look at it this way, at least when they are 16 you can force them to take driver's ed, make rules like you have to be in the car, and control how they learn. When they are 18 you lose that control and they can tell ya see ya, never get the practice in the car with you, never take driver's ed, never have your oversight.
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Excellent point. How do you enforce such stringent rules when your children are no longer minors?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 1h1 hour ago
Where did I get my @verabradley floral backpack I used on #KatePlus8 last pm? Its still avail on @Amazon ! GL! #I❤️It
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Another grift. Kate tweeted that she got a huge discount on the vera bag, seemingly trying to deflect away from the fact that these are expensive bags (her whole line is very nice, but $$$).
Note Kate didn't exactly say where she actually got her bag from, only that it's available from Amazon.
I remember when Emily was pestering Kate to be the godmother of her children, and Kate finally promised her that she would do so. Emily took to Twitter and bragged about it. She's been kissing Kate's rear end for quite some time.
Clarisse @clarissssse_ 9m9 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 It's been years since I watched your show religiously and I'm surprised how big the kids are!! Loved the latest episodes
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I always have to laugh at these tweets. What do these fans think these kids do? Stay the same height as they were when they were five? Do they believe that their growth has been stunted in some way and then are surprised to see that they are no longer "littles?"
What a hoot if Kate and her monkey were on the same flight.
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Tee-hee! I'll live blog from the flight just like the good ole days at her book signing.
I have 2 family members who weren't interested at 16, the girl got her license at 20, the boy is 17 and still not interested. I've never quizzed them as to why not. And it's fine in my book. I happen to think 16 is too young especially with today's distractions i.e. cell phones, texting and Twitter.
From the previous thread:
Kate is a twit said...
Of course, Kate would accent the stress factor, rather than state that the main cause is because she had chicken pox at one time in her life.
Wouldn't be surprised if she told her kids that it's because of them that she got it.
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I think that's exactly what she was implying with her snide comment "no wonder I'm sick w/a stress disease" to the kids who were in the room (I can't remember who was there at the time).
Admin, have you seen how low the Euro is now? I haven't seen it this low in ages. We're leaving Saturday and hopefully Em and Kate and Steve are not on my flight. Heh.
Tee-hee! I'll live blog from the flight just like the good ole days at her book signing.
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Just make sure Ratclaws keeps those things to himself!
... but is it unreasonable to assume that when they go "shopping" that the vehicles are at the ready and the stores are pre-planned? If so, why does it take a fuckety-hundred hours to grab what they need?
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Totally reasonable.
Yes, they have production vans always available for whatever is needed. From what I've heard, they have prearranged places to shop, they're not turned loose in NYC to fend for themselves - if that was the case some would never make it back. (It makes sense the sites need to be prearranged because of the need to get permission to film, etc). Also, some of the places they go are prop shops rather than retail stores. As for why it takes so long for some of them to shop - I think that's why Kate was getting so much heat for it. It shouldn't take that long unless you're an indecisive dolt who can't make a decision let alone understand the concept.
Jon made people magazine. Take that Kate!
http://www.people.com/article/jon-gosselin-dj
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Katie Malooly @katiemalooly · 32m32 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 You going out to help the quadruplets = Kate + 8 episode idea
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Horrible. This 'fan' should be ashamed of herself.
True. Except that we all know TFW does nothing out of the goodness of her heart, and that tweeter is probably closer to the truth than not.
Anyone who rejoices when someone miscarries isn't above what that tweeter is suggesting, imo.
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I wonder if TLC will show Nurse Kate coming to the rescue of the boy who fractured his ankle at the trampoline place.
I hope they told Kate to shove her release form you know where.
... but is Thi what actually happened? She had live lobsters and a pot of boiling water and then didn't cook them?
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Yep, they had a bucket full of live lobsters from the day they went out on the boat to catch them. It's anyone's guess how long they'd been out of water, but the kids had them out and were touching and playing with them. Kate was standing in the kitchen in front of a pot with steam coming out of it as they debated whether or not to 'kill' them. That's when she decided to go back out and buy precooked lobster.
I also wonder how long it was between the time the lobsters were caught, then kept in the bucket and played with, before she and the kids trekked to the beach and she let the kids THROW them back into the water. Did it all take place the same day or were the lobsters kept out of water overnight? It was a big demonstration of inappropriate messaging and animal cruelty, imo.
Tee-hee! I'll live blog from the flight just like the good ole days at her book signing.
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But, what's rat claws going to do once he wraps his nails around your arm? There's nowhere to go! Lead you to the bathroom and lock you in there?
Sue_Buddy said... 116
I have 2 family members who weren't interested at 16, the girl got her license at 20, the boy is 17 and still not interested. I've never quizzed them as to why not. And it's fine in my book. I happen to think 16 is too young especially with today's distractions i.e. cell phones, texting and Twitter.
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I also waited a bit, but I took public transit to school, and rode my bike, and rode with friends that had cars.
I think it would be hard for the G kids since Kate isn't going to taxi them around, and they're isolated on the compound.
Again, this leaves them getting into cars with friends.
PJ yes we're thrilled about the euro! I leave there for 2 weeks a week from Thursday, family trip to celebrate something special with some friends tagging along too planned long before this wedding came up. The blog girls, pool boys and our newest staffer the Gibson girl will be on duty. Enjoy yourself and the euro "sale", beats a coupon. Maybe we'll run into each other.
It was a big demonstration of inappropriate messaging and animal cruelty, imo.
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Yeah, they might as well have eaten those lobster because after hours of being out of water and stressed, I doubt they made it once thrown back.
To me, knowing that you're not going to eat what you catch is cruel. Throw it right back so it's got a fighting chance.
I can't believe the idiots who are gushing over Kate doling out pardons to these lobsters.
She did them no favors.
But, what's rat claws going to do once he wraps his nails around your arm? There's nowhere to go! Lead you to the bathroom and lock you in there?
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There's an emergency exit door. Admin, don't sit anywhere near it. I'm sure RC knows how to open it.
yet joyfully jumps into metal cage to check out sharks?
Was there ever proof that she really did that? Or was it just implied?
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There was definitely a metal cage. When she got into it, she first crawled over the top to the hatch which was almost level with the water surface and boat. I doubt the cage was more than 6'- 7' deep, so she wasn't under that much water like you see pros do on other tv shows. No sharks were spotted.
Admin, I'll be halfway through when you are leaving. We will be watching the Seahawks in the Superbowl over there - I just bought a pennant today to take to the pub, and will leave it there for their sports memorabilia case. The owners are so nice and their English as we've sorted out the details of the game at their place has been so adorable. We're excited! I don't remember where you are going, but I hope you have a safe and wonderful trip too!
I just can't believe that she's decided that all 8 kids will not drive until 18. It's my observation that it's rare in this day and age, to hold kids back. Most can get their permit at 15, and require many hours of practice with a licensed driver. Something seems off in Kate's reasoning, not that it surprises me.
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It makes no sense but most of her parenting decisions don't. Why decide something like that long before you know your children's maturity levels or needs? Her reasoning with this and a myriad of other decision is so flawed it's impossible to rationalize.
She thinks something like this demonstrates her good parenting when it seems arbitrary, irrational, and out of touch.
I love that the comments I read about Jon in the People article were almost all in Jon's favor!!
Suze said... 123
''.....Kate was standing in the kitchen in front of a pot with steam coming out of it as they debated whether or not to 'kill' them.''
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Suze, she kept saying ''MURDER'' the lobsters, not 'kill' them!
I am not surprised she will not allow the kids to drive until they are 18. It's control. And yes, maybe some will want to wait to drive. I was not that mature so I ended up waiting until I started my senior year. By then, no seniors rode the school bus any longer. I bet that's her plan.
I would not be surprised she plugs TLC to film a big sweet 16 party with a car included, but of course, the twins will not be allowed to drive it because that would mean they are independent.
So, how bad was Mady with the paddle board instructor? People can't believe her attitude with him.
Oh and Ms Safety didn't make the teens wear life jackets on the boat?
My niece wasn't at all interested in getting her license at 16. UNTIL she got interested in finding a job! That changed it for her. It was like she woke up one day and decided she wanted to be independent and BINGO before we knew it, she was taking driver's training, had her license and her first part time job. I don't know if her disinterest in driving was an indication of the type of driver she'd turn out to be, but she's definitely not the best! If there's any problem a driver can have, she's had it. Accidents, too. She's an otherwise very capable person; driving just isn't her thing.
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Katie Malooly @katiemalooly · 32m32 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 You going out to help the quadruplets = Kate + 8 episode idea
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Horrible. This 'fan' should be ashamed of herself.
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Of course it's a horrible idea but I'll bet my last dollar that thought crossed Kate's mind too. After all her life is the show and the show is her life. She thinks everything she does is episode worthy. Ms Post-It-bible-quote-Kate herself should know the verse about merciful deeds.
Sounds harsh, but when she reaches out to help others she is doing it for something in return. She proved that again most recently with the garage sale.
Vivica Fox starred in Kill Bill and Independence day, amongst many other accomplishments
vs
Katie Irene Krieder, starred in Jon and Kate plus 8 and Kate plus 8 and many other.....
Hmmmmm?
But good Ol' Khate disser her.
SMH
franky
Excellent point admin & Tucker -although I honestly wish the age was 18 along with the drivers' ed rules.
The lobster pardon sounds horrible and cruel.Haven't watched.
Congratulate me! I managed to express about a gallon of urine out of my convalescing 22 lb dog who is recovering well- a full-time job though! She is SO happy to be home and we are ecstatic her tail is wagging and R leg has some strength, L none but moves feebly and feels our touch.
Emily refers to Cyndi Lauper as Momma also. She also refers to her as Cyn. I think she is as conniving as sweet Kate and she can learn a lot from the master. I also think she will be the one doing the dumping.
Congratulate me! I managed to express about a gallon of urine out of my convalescing 22 lb dog who is recovering well- a full-time job though! She is SO happy to be home and we are ecstatic her tail is wagging and R leg has some strength, L none but moves feebly and feels our touch.
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I'm so happy that she's doing well at home.
When do you get to try to try and walk her with a sling?
Blowing (128): "There's an emergency exit door. Admin, don't sit anywhere near it. I'm sure RC knows how to open it."
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If nothing else, at least TFM is good for comic relief!
Congratulations, Formetly! ;-)
You are so excited that you renamed yourself.
But seriously, very happy for you and your pooch. Sounds like she is making great progress.
Once the kids start driving they can get their own lives and Kate won't be in-charge anymore.
They might even want to gasp...See Jon more.
Millicent...that is so cute about your ds and his 1st gf...
reminds me of a talk I had with dd and my future plans. She is in college now and I was saying I always wanted to travel to Africa and spend my retirement helping children and women. She said I so just so DO IT NOW !!!
I said I was waiting for her to be ready, she said go for it, I said I would be gone 6-8 months every year.
She said... I take it back. Please wait until I am done school , in my own my own apartment, and have had my first boyfriend!
I was so proud!!!!
Good on you and him, you must be so proud hugs
BTW....completely off-topic, but didn't feel like warning earlier, tfmjg is just not worth the effort of thinking ahead
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I haven't watched my recorded show from last night, but I checked out the comments on the Facebook page. I hope Kate does read here, because she is to lazy to check other social media beside twitter.
One of the twins in being skewered as being ugly, a brat. Where do these people think she learned it from. Admin please use your magic powers and send this list to Jon. He needs to be aware of this nonsense and get to a judge. Will Kate not be happy until M tried to hurt herself.? For Kate's idiot fans - you would think most of them would be able to spell her name correctly. How can a mother stand by and encourage her child being bullied by social medial. She cannot believe, even with her little pea brain that the twins are not on social media ad they are not hearing about it from peers at school. Kate is an unfit mother.
This is just a sample of some of the rude comments:
• Maddy is such a snotty little girl!
• I don't like the smart and ugly attitude that Madi has. Ever since she was a little girl, she was mean.
• Maddy must lack attention...she needs a slap check
• Even the instructor didn't like her. Shocking.
• She's a selfish brat and has been since the beginning....if it's not about her and her way then she wants no part of it!.....Someone blew it when it came to stopping her selfish and bratty behavior.....she needs far more than a slap
• I would have just sailed right on past that island and never went back and picked her up...lol...She needs a butt whippen for sure.
• Hopefully Mady will look back someday and be ashamed of her behavior and attitude towards her family. It sure sends out a terrible impression of her. Hope she does a 'check' before applying for a job anywhere.
• OMG Maddy needs a belt on her rear end on a weekly basis , she is so disrespectful
• Don't get me wrong , I like the show but if I wher Maddy's mom I would seriously slap that girls mouth, wash it out with soap and send her off to boot camp for a major attitude adjustment. She is so rude and disrespectful .
• Mady=BRATTY
• Madys attitude......wow...........seriously needs bootcamp too much disrespect.
• Mady makes me want to scream!!!!! She Is soooo disrespectful!!!!!
• Oh my gosh that Mady kid is Sooo snooty. Give me a freaking break Mady. You're so spoiled rotten. Wish you were my kid . I would get you on the straight and narrow path little brat. I'm sorry to those who feel I'm being rough and tough towards a kid but SLAPS in order. Kate, put your mom pants on. Keep blaming it on puberty.
• Im not trying to be rude but as particular as Kate is why doesnt she get those twins some proactive?!!!!
• Holy cow...My 14 year old son just said...if I talk to you like Maddy does her mom you would pop me...sad when other teenagers notice.
• Ugh Maddy is such a little brat I wish I could slap her
• Mady ruins the show for me. Her behavior makes her so unattractive. On the other hand, if she were pleasant she would be so much better-looking.
• Maddy is a very unhappy little girl...sounds spoiled...I would prefer not to see her on the show with that stinky attitude.
• Have watched this from the beginning. Mandy is still a BRAT and probably always will be.
• Wow! Mady ruins this show for me! If I could I would crawl through my tv and duc tape the mouth! I wouldn't be able to take her filthy mouth! Teenager or not, gain some control and respect! And Alexis is also going down that road to! I can see it!
• Lord how I would love to beat Maddie. Such a horrible brat
• Maddy is such a rude teen with a mouth..Needs an attitude adjustment!
Sorry admin - part 2 of the list.
• Madly needs major counseling and an attitude adjustment. A major medical check for hormone imbalances would be a good idea too.
• My God I can't stand Maddy. What a ungrateful little brat!! Her winy little voice makes by butt pucker!!
• Maddy is crazy....wow Patience is needed ...I would have popped her in the mouth by now..
• Maddy has some deep anger issues funny she has no friend to bring ...she should be blacked out on the show and given therapy to help her she needs help its not good to be this angry all the time
How could any parent ignore this and continue this farce.
Katie Irene Krieder, starred in Jon and Kate plus 8 and Kate plus 8 and many other.....
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It's Kreider. You know how much Kate hates spelling errors...pronounced Cry-der. Krieder would be pronounced Cree-der.
It makes you wonder if TLC purposely waited to air Kate plus 8 now, not only to garner ratings from Kate's appearance on CA, but to point out the difference between how Kate acts on CA and on her show.
Interesting that they had her freaking out about being on the boat and on the water, and next week's CA is the boat cruise. Same thing with her "Don't default to drama" on CA, and that's all she's doing on Kate plus 8.
Will the REAL Kate Gosselin, please stand up!
This is what Kate said about Emily - "Emily is a long time friend that lives up in that area that we asked to be nearby to help out if kids were sick or needed to stay home". In other words, Emily was brought along as a babysitter.
"I've learned to ignore their resistance - whereas it might have made me change & kowtow & cater to them in the past". When have we ever seen Kate cater to the kids? There are entire episodes proving it's always been her way or her way.
Emily is a long time friend that lives up in that area that we asked to be nearby to help out if kids were sick or needed to stay home
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Why does she always do all these splitting hairs about the nannies?
If she were only there if someone got sick, then why wasn't she just "on call" like a fireman?
Why can't she just call the nanny the nanny? Good grief. As much as I think Em is a self-serving opportunist, she at least does deserve to be called what she is, the NANNY. I guess if you go around giving people their proper titles it starts to sound too much like you should be paying them.
Good grief!!
Apparently this is what Kate said about the lobsters:
Daria Zeoli @dariazeoli 9m9 minutes ago
"Lobsters are despicably ugly, but I don't like to kill anything so I was already mourning their death." - Kate Gosselin
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Really, Kate, despicably, DESPICABLY ugly? Another big word, the meaning of which she has no clue. Murdering despicably ugly lobsters.
Shall I laugh, shall I cry or shall I scream over the ignorance? Gaaaaaa
Milo tweeted that her water pipe broke. Ph with the D tweeted:
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 8m8 minutes ago
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Darn it, unless you are on top of those workers they will just throw it together as fast as they can. 😠
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I think that Gladys would much rather be on top of Kate than on top of those workers.
I do wonder if TLC looks at the comments about Mady being rude and obnoxious and thought, "great, we've got the hook!". Then, some producer called TFW and says "keep up the arguing with Mady, we have great viewing numbers!" Or, am I being too cynical thinking this tension between Mady and TFW was orchestrated for ratings? I don't get TLC, so I am relying on the insights here to form my opinions.
Admin, Thanks for the recap on CA, laugh out loud funny!
Formerly Duped, there is NO place like home when it comes to your
beloved pet. She will thrive with your attention and care, I am sure she is so much more relaxed and will do just fine.
I was just looking around to see what some of the silly sheep have been up to and was wondering about the unemployed Junior Uggs.
Ms. Uggs' (or is it Uggs's?) cat, Mo, tweeted a meow to Taylor Swift, and Uggs told Kevin Hart that she peed in her pants, and announced to Kelly Ripa that she will be in New York next week: I'm sure all of them were deliriously happy to hear this:
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@taylorswift13 my Mo! Says hello and meow!!! #1989 heard the whole album on a road trip this weekend #Awesome kudos http://t.co/dHIK7wHdsW
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@KevinHart4real you do PA PROUD! Still laughing to myself I saw the #weddingringer @nbcsnl yesterday #IpeedMyPantsaLittle #ooohNo #Jimmy/bic
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@1iota one week today @KellyandMichael @KellyRipa @michaelstrahan #1iota1week my sis bday!! #CantWait 2nd yr in a row!!! #NYC HERE WE COME!
Formetly, happy for you and your pup. :)
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 154
Milo tweeted that her water pipe broke. Ph with the D tweeted:
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Did she finally get her D after all of this time? Typo, I know!
Thanks, ladies! And Tucker, we were given the sling but have to wait till 2 week check up. I have to balance her on my leg and express her bladder outside, but no walking with the sling yet.Maybe at 6 weeks I think. I also have range of motion exercises, injections, pain patch, turning every 3 hours ( but she wiggles out of place) and incision care. But yes, no place like home. She is so funny, pointing with her nose to a cup of water I have placed near her bed on a table.
Really, Kate, despicably, DESPICABLY ugly? Another big word, the meaning of which she has no clue. Murdering despicably ugly lobsters.
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At least she didn't call them "enterprising." After all, she learned a new word in New York.
Lobsters are despicably ugly, but I don't like to kill anything so I was already mourning their death." - Kate Gosselin
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So Katie, that side of beef that you grifted was ok because cows are cute?
Really, Kate, despicably, DESPICABLY ugly?
Just more projection.
She is so funny, pointing with her nose to a cup of water I have placed near her bed on a table.
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It's funny how you get to know every whine, cry and look.
"Honey, he's gotta poop, can you take him out?"
"Yup, we got a poop!".
Jumping In, there needs to be drama because since the tension worked for the interplay between Jon and Kate, it's quite possible that TLC is making Mady the fall guy, with Kate's blessing. The thing is, Mady is not an adult and has no understanding how she appears in public. Further, the child has always had issues as we witnessed on the old show but now she is in full hormonal rage and I believe Kate is just fine with this behavior on camera. Yes indeed, it's the hook because otherwise the show would be even more boring than it already is. And I doubt Jon can do anything about it. Cara, at least, seems to just want it to all end but Mady probably has been convinced it's all ok to pitch a fit on camera. I think, considering the Facebook comments, that many adults are uncomfortable and maybe this approach will backfire. The child does not deserve to be publicly humiliated and her mother is totally responsible. I hope some parents and child psychologists weigh in and shame TLC because Kate has no empathy.
From June 2014
https://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/tag/mady-gosselin/
Then Mady mouths off to to Kate “This is stupid: I don’t want to be a partof this,” Mady said of the party, adding, “This isn’t my birthday, so I don’t care.”
If Mady was not egged on to say this by producers and she said it on her own, the teen is really showing signs of selfishness and hostility towards her younger brothers and sisters. From that standpoint alone a visit to the therapist might be in her best interest.
Jumping In said... 155
Or, am I being too cynical thinking this tension between Mady and TFW was orchestrated for ratings? I don't get TLC, so I am relying on the insights here to form my opinions.
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I've basically come to the same conclusion. They desperately need something to spice up the Gosselin Travelogue and since Jon isn't around anymore to play the antagonist to demigoddess Kate they've replaced him with Mady.
And I'm not even cynical ;0)
Regarding the paddle-board instructor: When he said "I understand you don't like authority, so I won't be that authoratative" - he didn't say it in an aggressive tone at all; his tone was very matter of fact & mild. And I didn't get the impression that he was directing the comment to Mady - he seemed to be speaking to the three teen girls in general. When Kate set up the paddle boarding session, I can totally see her saying something like "my girls can be a challenge - they don't handle authority well". Whatever was said was obviously noted on the lesson plan for the instructor's benefit so that he could teach them in a style that would work for them.
Rhymes with Witch said... 162
Really, Kate, despicably, DESPICABLY ugly?
Just more projection.
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ha! You beat me to it. I was just about to hit publish.
When Kate was doing her narrative regarding the rowing, she managed to get a couple of digs in at two of the boys. She said Collin is not very good at hearing & following instructions so she thought the rowing lesson would be especially good for him. She said Aaden has a lot of hesitations about what he's good at. However Joel is so easy & pleasant. How I wish Kate would only say nice things about all her boys.Saying Joel is wonderful & then throwing in "they're all wonderful" doesn't count in my book.
The child does not deserve to be publicly humiliated and her mother is totally responsible. I hope some parents and child psychologists weigh in and shame TLC because Kate has no empathy. 164
Katie is totally responsible. TLC is a close second. That poor child deserves so much better.
It's funny how you get to know every whine, cry and look. 163
I'd give a lot for a whine or a cry. Roo just gives me looks to interpret. I have to ask questions and note her reaction. Oh well, it keeps me on my toes.
At least she didn't call them "enterprising." After all, she learned a new word in New York.
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LOL! Did someone actually tell her the definition? Can't remember? Maybe it's just me but I can't imagine a 40 year old not knowing the definition of enterprising.
Formerly, so glad to hear your pup is home. She must be greatly relieved to be there, sweet thing. How cute about pointing her nose toward the water cup.
I really can't imagine TFW appearing on Wendy Williams after
she gets fired. Contractual obligation or not, I don't think she
has the courage to sit through an interview with someone who
has not only slammed her, but supports her ex.
Vivica is an accomplished lady. She is confident, a leader, a strong sense of herself and a hard worker. And, of course, she is beautiful. Kate is a wannabe. Kate is the exact opposite of Vivica. Yet Kate wants everything a true accomplished actress has....money, fame, the perks, positive recognition and respect. Kate thinks mugging for the cameras is acting.
I finished watching CA, the one where Vivica stepped up to be PM. When she took over as PM, that point Vivica earned my respect. Kate was trying, and succeeding, in ducking out of doing work. Yet, positioning herself to through Vivica under the bus should the team lose task. Vivica on the other hand, accepted the responsibility, rolled with the punches when plans had to change and still remained focused on the task. Oh wait, Kate did succeed at one thing....she successfully had lunch.
It's funny how you get to know every whine, cry and look. 163
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Aw, I know. Like a newborn baby.
The camera appears to be her sole motivation for doing anything, everything else just falls away.
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I think you're right about this. It's creepy when you think about it. Who is *only* motivated by a camera on them? That's just odd.
Back to CA: kate at least is contributing. Any failed PM could have, should have, brought Sig back in and said "nice guy, but does nothing of value" IMO , objectively, he is more useless than Kate.
Back to CA: kate at least is contributing. Any failed PM could have, should have, brought Sig back in and said "nice guy, but does nothing of value" IMO , objectively, he is more useless than Kate.
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I like Sig but I was wondering why they don't try to pin something on him as sort of a fly under the radar mediocre contestant.
I kind of wonder if he does work really hard nose to the grindstone but it's boring so we don't see much of it. After all there's really no question he's a work horse, he's a crab fisherman. For whatever reason no one is thinking to peg him to be fired. It's interesting. I really hate the shorter edits, I feel like we're missing so much.
TLC stinks 164....Thanks for the insight. Not seeing Mady's behaviour myself I am just imagining various scenarios to justify such rebellious and disrespectful acting out on her part. Perhaps Mady is pushing back because she has no respect for the mother who has forced the family to preform in front of the camera again. Or, it could be a manufactured discord to grab an audience looking for more drama, hard to say. I think it is clear that whatever the network wants, Kate will deliver as long as they are paying and keep her relevant. The kids are just collateral damage.
Totally agree. She is a smoker who will never admit it.
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I would put a million bucks on it.
She can't own who she is and this is just one part of that. Who cares if you smoke, it's not like she ever claimed to be against it or something.
I think she and Jon smoked together since they were dating, and neither of them has quit.
"Formerly Duped" I came here specifically to get an update on your dog. I am so very pleased!
Mady was also a mouthy little girl. She complained that the tups got 3 birthday parties and always went on about how she was better off without them. This was when she was very young. Now she wants to be an actress, and I can just see her as a reality star housewife. She'd fit right in with some of them.
I wish Vivica could have simply stated the truth as to why she thought Kate should be fired, her attitude.
Its hard to argue that an actor in a
commercial should be fired because her hair
took too much time.
Kate responds to Vivica always with sour grapes or in her passive aggressive way.
A bad attitude, a grudge, can be a cancer in a business environment.
This idiotic program fosters it.
I don't believe any member of the cast has complemented Kate's effort or abilities.
Ah, c'mon. Lay of Sig. He's just not getting the camera time. The drama is the women and the crazy guys.
There is not a person on that show who deserves to be sent packing more than sKate. And I've felt that way since day one. She should have been fired when she was PM and her team won! She did nothing.
And she only contributes if a man is the PM. She sabotages if the PM is a woman.
PJ
Its hard to argue that an actor in a
commercial should be fired because her hair
took too much time.
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Exactly! Quite frankly that falls back on the PM to be like nope, we're cutting it off right now you've got 3 minutes to wrap this up and she's out of here, I don't care if it's not done. He didn't do that. They just sort of whined and said come ON Kate hurry up! I think that really does fall back on the PM to cut off stuff like this.
The problem with this cast is that really only 2 or 3 of them are being aggressive about attacking other constants, putting them in their place, and trying to get a dud like Kate fired. Only Brandi and Vivica have ever tried to really gun for her. That's not necessarily enough, they've got to band together on this and go on the offensive. The rest are a bunch of wet noodles who won't throw ANYONE under the bus, much less Kate. They're all playing defense, and that's not going to get Kate fired. Of course she has the luck of a leprechaun and gets herself on a cast who won't take anybody down.
This is one of the most unusual casts in terms of how they are playing this game. Nobody is a real stand out strategically, nobody is that aggressive, nobody seems to have much of a plan how they're going to get where they need to be.
Rhymes with Witch said... 162
Really, Kate, despicably, DESPICABLY ugly?
Just more projection.
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I was thinking the same.
Ah, c'mon. Lay of Sig. He's just not getting the camera time. The drama is the women and the crazy guys.
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To me the most logical explanation for why Sig seems so forgettable is because he simply isn't causing any problems or hurting anything on the tasks. He just does the work and nobody can blame him for any mistakes. Johnny appears to be in the same boat. Put your head down and work and let the other folks self destruct. Ironically they may be playing a more strategic game than most.
People need to leave Maddy alone she a child.
And IF she is what people are saying SHE learned her behavior from her witch of a mother KATE is the one to blame here not a child.
And the fact that a 40 year mother who let's her child get slammed that say's a lot.
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@Kateplusmy8 This has 2b sweet validation 4U after enduring ridiculous #HateBook and other nasty media stuff! #WinnersNeverQuit #Congrats
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Explain to me how a stint on Celebrity Apprentice, regardless how you're performing (Milo, she's TERRIBLE), is any kind of redemption or proof you didn't abuse your kids. One has nothing to do with the other.
Milo is stealing our line, which is that CA is validation for the NON-FANS who have been saying what a pill she is all along. This proves it.
I remember Leeza. Gibbons as pretty and poised from years ago. Now I see she is smart too. Really smart. Unlike many of the celebs on this program she is above board and a clear thinker. Strong, confident, business savvy, and still personable.
She can't own who she is and this is just one part of that. Who cares if you smoke, it's not like she ever claimed to be against it or something.
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Not directly, but her shtick of healthy eating, running, exercise, living that lifestyle wouldn't be credible, and in fact hypocritical, if she admitted she smokes, polluting her body and the universe. I'm really surprised she didn't deny that she tans since we all know the danger of lying in that skin-cancer bed.
It's funny how you get to know every whine, cry and look. 163
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Aw, I know. Like a newborn baby.
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I thought you were talking about Kate and her transparency!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 172
The problem with this cast is that really only 2 or 3 of them are being aggressive about attacking other constants, putting them in their place, and trying to get a dud like Kate fired. Only Brandi and Vivica have ever tried to really gun for her. That's not necessarily enough, they've got to band together on this and go on the offensive. The rest are a bunch of wet noodles who won't throw ANYONE under the bus, much less Kate. They're all playing defense, and that's not going to get Kate fired. Of course she has the luck of a leprechaun and gets herself on a cast who won't take anybody down.
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Not wanting to throw people under the bus is not equivalent to being a wet noodle. Personal ethics matter to some. Just because it's a competition does not mean that anyone needs to be "thrown under the bus." Not everyone is a win at all costs personality. I happen to respect that. Clearly, you don't.
I made no comment indicating I have a problem with someone not throwing anyone under the bus due to their personal ethics. I don't care if someone isn't throwing someone under the bus due to their personal ethics. You can play the game how you want. That said, I do think duds like Shawn were wet noodles. At the 11th hour Shawn seemed to be indicating this was part of her strategy.
I simply said this gameplay wasn't going to help with getting fired, if that is what is desired.
I don't appreciate being accused of not respecting someone's personal ethics. I said nothing of the sort. In fact I was very clear about Terrell's personal value system (not asking for money) that it was fine in "real life" and he could teach Kate something about that. However, it did not work in this game. It got him fired. Clearly, I indicated I had no problem with his values and even respected them. Not sure how you missed that. It's in the very first paragraph of the recap, which maybe you have not read.
I don't know the individual stories of the other celebs on CA this season, I know some went to college and some have worked decades at their careers.
I can only imagine coming to a point in their career where they are competing against a bitterly divorced unemployed mother from central Pa and that she became a "celebrity" by giving birth to eight children.
I remember Leeza. Gibbons as pretty and poised from years ago. Now I see she is smart too. Really smart. Unlike many of the celebs on this program she is above board and a clear thinker. Strong, confident, business savvy, and still personable.
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Yes, she seems savvy. Sometimes SHE doesn't seem to belong on this show as much as Kate doesn't, she's too smart. I think it's harder to make it in this business when you are attacking it from the non-fiction standpoint, breaking in via journalism, entertainment news, talk show hosting, etc.
The way you break into journalism/talk shows usually is from the ground up. That is going to weed out the dummies fast. That just isn't going to work if you don't know what you are doing, don't care about or understand local, national and international issues, or are afraid of real hard work, late or long hours.
Dumb actresses and actors slip through all the time. I worked for an idiot who couldn't so much as multiply 4 times 3 correctly. Leeza does a different thing than acting. Leeza does non-fiction. It may be silly celebrity news but the way she got here was doing "real" news for a local station in Texas for years.
Look at Geraldo. Another one of the cast coming from the non-fiction side of things. He may be a nut job and self absorbed, but I don't think he's stupid.
Tucker's Mom said... 163
It's funny how you get to know every whine, cry and look.
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I know. Kate is soooo predictable....lol
Jon said he quit smoking and I hope it's true for his sake and for the kids sake.
After smoking nearly all of her life my mom stopped smoking,
Explain to me how a stint on Celebrity Apprentice, regardless how you're performing (Milo, she's TERRIBLE), is any kind of redemption or proof you didn't abuse your kids. One has nothing to do with the other.
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There is no explanation. At least not to rational observers.
I do wonder how somebody like Leeza, who has worked so hard from the ground up since she was a teen to get where she is, feels about this new reality show culture where you can be a celeb overnight.
It must feel frustrating at times. Or maybe she finds her success is sweeter because she really worked for it. In any case I hope she doesn't give TFW a second thought.
Formerly, I'm so glad to hear that your little dog is doing so well. I'm sure you're relieved to have her home with you. I hope she continues to improve.
Re Mady's behavior -- She's always been a volatile child, but instead of dealing with it and teaching her how to handle herself, TFMJG's response was to moan, complain and punish. Since she was 3 1/2, Mady's been shunted to the back, told she wasn't good enough, and told that she didn't matter any more. That's enough to make anyone, let alone a teen with raging hormones and a bitch mother, act out. I haven't seen the show and I won't watch the show, but it sounds to me like TFMJG is reaping what she has sown. That said, it wouldn't surprise me at all that Mady's been coached to ramp up the bad behavior to improve ratings. Such a set of mixed signals. No wonder Jon says the kids have trouble with morals and ethics. Look who their example is.
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