Martha said... 190 I loathe, detest, despise and hate TFW
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I don't hate her. I can remember my grandmother telling me when I was a kid that you should never say you hate anyone, but that there are a lot of people you like much better! That always stuck with me.
What I feel for Kate is frustration. I mean, really frustrated that someone can't sit down and tell her the facts of life and have her understand what she's doing to those children in her desperate attempt to live the lifestyle to which she thinks she is entitled. Would she understand? Probably not, but there must be someone in her life who could knock some sense into her. That's what I feel...frustration.
I also feel that same frustration about the sheeple...that they are so far into the worship of her that they can't think logically, and are unable to see the whole picture without rose-colored glasses. These children were not put on this earth for their amusement, and those fans crying out for "more, more, we need more episodes" are probably among the most selfish I've ever seen. Gladys and her six or so cronies lead the flock.
Rev. John Kish @RevJohnkish 1h1 hour ago Warren, MI @Kateplusmy8 Sad to see u leave Celebrity Apprentice. You were shafted! Your a awesome, loving lady. 😍
This tweet from a "reverend" made me think of Rev. Craig Yoshihara, formerly of Roswell UMC. I often wondered what he thought of the drunken foot-licking episode in the NYC bar.
PA Dutch Mom (#4), wonder if Rev. John caught the awesome, loving lady's retweet about someone thinking she's hot.
"You were shafted" -- is that what the kids are calling it these days? Okay, I'll take a seat in my time-out spot (consult your blueprint for all the designated areas).
Sascha @Sassccha 21m21 minutes ago @nochanceofrain @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 O geez K8 up to old flim flam tricks. Pic taken a few yrs ago - NO recent pic of Shoka in house.
Nope. That's current homework. I seriously doubt that Kate used an old picture and photo shopped a current homework sheet onto the picture.
It's not a shock collar, as some claimed on Twitter. There's an electric fence around the property, and that's the collar that's used with the system.
Alicia Weicht @Cheer_alicia_09 16m16 minutes ago Pennsylvania, USA @Kateplusmy8 I know you guys had a huge yardsale, that I sadly missed. Do you do meet and greets anywhere? I want a autograph on your book!
Of course! A meet and greet! What a great idea! I'm not sure what she would sign, but hey, let's schedule some! However,you might want to check with the venue first to make sure she's where she is supposed to be. She has been known to hide and cry in closets!
I think this young one was sleeping during that extensive cookbook signing tour! You blinked, you missed it.
This tweet from a "reverend" made me think of Rev. Craig Yoshihara, formerly of Roswell UMC. I often wondered what he thought of the drunken foot-licking episode in the NYC bar.
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Ha! I remember when he inferred that Kate was a fine Christian woman with exemplary morals/ethics. He really had the wool pulled over his eyes!
PA Dutch Mom (#4), wonder if Rev. John caught the awesome, loving lady's retweet about someone thinking she's hot.
"You were shafted" -- is that what the kids are calling it these days? Okay, I'll take a seat in my time-out spot (consult your blueprint for all the designated areas).
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack @Cheer_alicia_09 @Kateplusmy8 Not true...no gift card required. But she does appreciate a self-address/stamped return envelope. :)
Oh, geez. Mouthpiece Milo is speaking for Kate again. Won't she EVER shut up?
carlin @CarlinnAmanda 4m4 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 could you tweet that doggie cake recipe please? I can't find it anywhere!
If you use your bread maker, it will slice the cake for you!
"You were shafted" -- is that what the kids are calling it these days? Okay, I'll take a seat in my time-out spot (consult your blueprint for all the designated areas)
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Maybe he was in the room next to Kate and Steve and heard, or felt some, um, good vibrations?.
No, it proves that you're too busy playing "gotcha!" to bother to read to find out that this was from SEVERAL YEARS AGO ********************************************************* Also proves that Robert was not lying and that your princess was, and still is! Did you send her some money back then? Are you pissed or something? gotcha- nana nana boo boo
I would love to take a script of any one of the Jon & Kate episodes, and re-shoot it. I would have a man read Kate's lines..how different people might react.
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They did something similar. Remember the Masches? IIRC, his treatment of his wife did not go over well. But people have difficulty extrapolating that kind of thing. Women still get away with far more than men do when it comes to domestic violence.
PJ **************************************** Abso-freaking-lutely! I have said this many many times, the double standard disgusts me. And you'd think that being female myself, and having my brother be the golden child, I'd be a sheeple, you know? See things through tfw's eyes? NO, abuse is abuse is abuse, regardless of gender, age, race, species, family relation, sexual orientation. NOT a hater here, I'm a person calling out someone who is a tyrant, abuser, thief, liar, manipulator, user, cruel, insensitive, diabolical...not enough words in my vocabulary to describe her. tfBBBBBB instead of tfw is what pops in my head immediately when I think of her. That effing bitch
chefsummer #Leh said... 186 Unless Mady is an actress I don't think she was faking in the last episodes.
I saw real anguish during the spilled paint and it's not a coincidence that Kate or producers out that part out. ------------------------------ I agree. That was not acting and is at least the second time we have seen M really freak out (Pizza Gate). If TLC swiffered this out, we can only imagine the other edited film.
I do believe that there is an agreement with TFW (Yes, that is her name), with the twins in order to continue the circus, but as usual, TFW can not control her anger and over controlling behavior.
I'm sorry, I have to say wtf? Jon's kids are handling "celebrity" well? Really? Remind me- which kid was it that walked around covering his face in public? Has Jon SEEN the horrific chatter that revolved around Mady?
WTF is this man smoking?!
Doing DJ gigs isn't a plan for taking care of 8 kids. Jon needs a real job, with benefits: healthcare, dental, vision, 401K.... This man is staring down 40, and this is his game plan?
Jon loves shiny balls way too much, and being in a party environment is no place for someone with alcoholic and man-whore tendencies.
And how exactly would a 9-5 job interfere with his custody?
Sherry Baby said... 181 If you have done everything you can to deal with your childhood issues and are still struggling to behave in a normal manner, then I see where sympathy might come in. But until she does that, I don't much give her a pass. She is responsible for how she deals with things now.
__________ But if much of this has to do with narcissism or a personality disorder, is there ever a cure? Could she heal, even with therapy, medication, help dealing with childhood issues that still might exist? I mean, if one is able to overcome whatever is bothering her, doesn't the narcissism still remain, and how do you deal with that? Doesn't that personality disorder really come into play with the parenting/control issues that she has?
I guess my question is...if there are two (or more) things going on with her, such as narcissism and not being able to reconcile something painful from her past, will she ever be able to heal and move on if a narcissist never really changes? ---------------------------------------------------
Narcissism is a tough personality disorder to deal with as the person generally sees things in terms of their "specialness" and do not suffer any dissention well. Childhood trauma can impact a person as well, but it appears how each person deals with it, especially as you get older, and see how it is impacting current and future behavior. Some overcome childhood trauma, as they realize they want a different life than what they experienced, understand it was not their fault, and does not determine who they will be in the future. Some folks realize that their behavior just isn't working, others seek treatment, as they are not able to make the changes by themselves. But the narcissism is a chronic pattern of behavior that often involves one looking out for themselves, who don't learn from making bad choices over and over again, feel they are better than others, and take criticism poorly, and view those who criticize them as the enemy.
Generally, trauma can be overcome, narcissists often will not see their flaws and therefore never correct them, as it is them against the world. And if someone disagrees with them, they are on the shit list.
The best thing someone can do who has problems getting along with most of the people most of the time, is to seek therapy with a qualified mental health professional to find out why they have such conflict constantly in their lives and stick with it. However, hard core narcissists will view the therapist as "not able to help them" if they are not hearing what they want to hear.
I obviously am not a therapist, so feel free to disagree, but I have worked with people with huge problems for years, and have seen many people make changes when THEY WANTED IT!!
Forgot to add that the Narcissist must want change to get help, but their view that they know better than everyone else often does not allow for that. There are varying degrees with this personality disorder, as with any other mental health diagnosis, but generally it involves the person wanting change, if they realize, that things are not working out well for them.
BTW (by the way), I do hate that TFW (the Former Wife) continues to film these kids with all of the dysfunction going on. It is undeniable, and the kids don't deserve to have this filmed for all of the world to see.
KATE can continue to film solo on CA (Celebrity Apprentice) or whatever, I don't care, but IMO (in my opinion), the kids' general behavior is not good, they are showing wear and tear and they need a break. ( Period ) But TFW will not consider that - all about the $$$$ (dollars).
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I came across this article, (and I use the term loosely) about why LeeAnn Rimes is so hated and has destroyed her own career. I see a lot of parallels with sKate.
They did something similar. Remember the Masches? IIRC, his treatment of his wife did not go over well. But people have difficulty extrapolating that kind of thing. Women still get away with far more than men do when it comes to domestic violence.
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I'm not familiar with the Masche family. I had to google the name. Did TLC make money by filming their toddlers?
For business I have traveled with married men, not once did I pack a bikini. If I try to imagine laying on a blanket in my bikini with (a married man on business) or by a pool it makes me uncomfortable. Of course she told Jon the marriage was over.
I have been curious as to why LeAnn Rimes is hated for dating a married man whereas Angelina Jolie got a pass with her affair with Pitt.
To take it further, it's also interesting that some have had their careers ruined (or in the process of) for words or actions...Mel Gibson and Bill Cosby come to mind...while Kate Gosselin's baby-beating journal is available for the world to see and yet she continues to skate by.... (perhaps because she's a pseudo-celeb of no real consequence?)
I do believe that there is an agreement with TFW (Yes, that is her name), with the twins in order to continue the circus, but as usual, ----
Oh yes, I am sure there is some serious bargaining going on with the twins, LOL. We just saw the 'you won't drive until you are 18" dramafest, so I am sure she is telling them this" "If you want to drive when you are 16, keep filming!!!! I am a single mom of 8 doing it all alone, so if you want to drive you better do what I say!"
and of course, the twins will film. They have to. But just like the cell phones, those cars are going to be serious 'currency', as Kate likes to spout (waving at Dr. Phil). Those cars will sit in the driveway more than they will be driven. The twins think they have Kate where they want her....just wait until those cars (I am being generous thinking each will get their own) arrive, Kate will have even more power.
Whats it like trying to hold down a job with all of the baggage he has courtesy of Kate Krieder. Law suits alone, add to that shunning and parental alienation. I doubt I could function. Add to that the public kool-aid drinking persona, "deadbeat Dad who cheated on a mother of 8 and left her with a purse full of bills." I imagine he doesn't have A lot of choices. I see him as a victim of abuse, and abuse filmed and validated by TLC. I also see a man who survived an awful situation but stll navigates a way to have a loving relationship with his children. Great sense of humor, and kind too.
Thanks Tucker and PJ. We're coming along slowly but it's great to see improvement. You all have been a big help and support for me.Now that my dog is more ambulatory, she is getting to be a handful...and I am very happy about it. :)
Rhymes, yes, I recall that conversation. They upped the amount to 18 inches, oy! Hope you're stocked up on necessities.Would be funny if we bumped into one another! We should develop a secret sign or something.
The whole Kate plus 8 crapfest will eventually implode. It looks as if it's starting to happen. How embarrassing for those kids that their friends see their mom cry poor and complain nonstop about her lot in life...publicly. By now, if guess the kids know that Kate engineered their births so she can get free shit. How low would that make you feel? To know she did that, and that she continues to treat you as if she did that.
When I saw these recent episodes, all I could think of was the old TV show Dallas. Those aireal shots of TFW's country estate, complete with an in-ground pool, certainly depicts a woman of means. While the (fictional) Ewing family made their millions in oil, one has to ask how this mother of 8 has managed such wealth. The contrast between their humble beginnings and the life she has now was so clear from that helicopter hovering overhead. Hum the theme from Dallas, it's a perfect match.
Those kids got her there, and now that country home is their prison. She will keep them bound in a tight unit until she squeezes every last dollar out of them.
By now, if guess the kids know that Kate engineered their births so she can get free shit. How low would that make you feel? ++++++
Not to mention ever single time mom opens her mouth she talking about her tired and over worked overwhelmed. She is cause she has to take care of you and doesn't seem happy.
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The "Room Project" episode is on Youtube, complete with the paint meltdown at 13:07. You might find a trip to the dentist more enjoyable. :) Kate just sucks the fun out of everything. The kids did not want her participating in the pumpkin throwing game. She insisted that she play: "I am smashing pumpkins because I came up with this idea, rest assured." Really! She just oozed anger.
http://pagesix.com/2015/02/06/rosie-odonnell-leaves-the-view-and-her-wife/ *********************************************************************************** Could there still be a seat on The View for TFW? *Snark!! Seems Rosie P. is on the fence as well.
About the twin cars being currency. She will be so jealous of them getting out and about having a "real life" that the least little miniscule infraction, those cars will be on the currency chopping block.
Also, one thing I liked about the Jon article is Jon said Mady called in and requested a One Direction song and he didn't have it right there, but said, how about Taylor Swift? So he played it for Mady.
I wonder if Mady had to call from the Shawshank phone being heavily monitored by the hovering hello copter parent?
The Jon I saw on the Tank fish show was he came into a deli and was looking at the menu and someone told him hi and of course asked about the kids. Jon was gracious and kind. He answered about the kids, They are doing great, thanks for asking, with a glow on his face. Started ordering and was nice to the person behind the counter.
kate would never do that!
Oh, why is em tanner wanting kate to be the next bachelorette? Seems strange because kate was so horrible to her. The only good thing about that is it would give the kids a much needed break from the warden.
I agree with the posters that the Jon article will infuriate the fuhrer.
. She insisted that she play: "I am smashing pumpkins because I came up with this idea, rest assured." Really! She just oozed anger. ***** Given that it's the stupidest game ever, I have no doubt Kate "masterminded" it. Here's a game for Kate- let's see how long she can keep her kids off of tv!
I have to agree with you. The baby is a gem, and the dad knew it. Have a DS brother and my parents and all kids adore him. He reminds all of us of the important things in life, as his heart is so good and pure. He keeps it simple for us..
So anyone who doubts parental alienation on Kate's part, I give you the scene in the kitchen where Cara does not want a hug from Kate. Mady hugs Kate and Kate holds onto Mady repeating, "One for Mady, one for Cara, one for Mady, one for Cara." Mady and Kate both smiling...using the one daughter to get back at the other who is obviously and most likely legitimately upset.. If you refuse me or what I want I will rub your nose in it. Someone should let her know that "Mommie Dearest" was not a "How to" book.
Yes. I mentioned before I thought I spotted Lego boxes as 'rewards' and bigger toys, not just a pack of gum or something. And why didn't Kate make sure Leah liked her dress and have a back up.She claimed Leah agreed but that tantrum says otherwise.
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Kate is always inserting herself into the 'fun things,' like the gym place where she didn't let any kid beat her, the birthday parties, the pumpkin game which none of the kids liked, even in Tweets about the #fun she has with her BFFs the twins. I think not.
Did anyone notice the agonized face she pulled while the kids souvenir shopped in Maine? What was that for? She gave them all $40 and said she let them pick whatever they wanted even if silly things, so what was the issue? (for someone who dislikes stuffed animal, there sure were lot at the yard sale and she encouraged the boys to buy more at that little shop)
I watched Shark Tank last night and a repeat of CA was coming on. I hadn't seen this part in the beginning. It was when they fired I can't remember, but TFW had on the red sleeveless dress and the big gold earrings with her hair tied completely in the back. When she went to the room she was talking and her FACE and her NECK looked awful. She looked bad! Her makeup was too dark. Then she told Vivica come HELL or HIGH water we have to win? or do something.
I noticed when kate and someone came back from being fired, kate made a beeline to SIG!!! WHY? Was that after Shawn was fired, I think? Also, when Sig got mad, and she swooped in like Mother Teresa, to calm him down and diffuse the situation.
Why! WHY! WHY! Doesn't she do that with HER OWN KIDS!!!
I'm sorry, I have to say wtf? Jon's kids are handling "celebrity" well? Really? Remind me- which kid was it that walked around covering his face in public? Has Jon SEEN the horrific chatter that revolved around Mady?
WTF is this man smoking?!
Doing DJ gigs isn't a plan for taking care of 8 kids. Jon needs a real job, with benefits: healthcare, dental, vision, 401K.... This man is staring down 40, and this is his game plan?
Jon loves shiny balls way too much, and being in a party environment is no place for someone with alcoholic and man-whore tendencies.
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I totally agree with you. Jon does need to grow up, Kids are not doing great and he has other options other than bars and restaurants at night. The 9-5 excuse for work makes no sense. At close to 40, the party environment needs to end. EOE
Kate says "I love getting rid of stuff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
reader, here is a story about the Masches. http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20429942,00.html
They weren't around long, but I recall grumblings about the way he treated her on the show and it was mild compared to the things sKate did to Jon. I don't know if it was on TLC or not.
I don't think Angelina got a free pass. I didn't follow that story much, but I don't recall Angelina taunting Jennifer Aniston on twitter, getting into arguments with fans, using children to further her agenda, etc. She kept her mouth shut. I don't give her a pass, but she's no where near LeaAnn when it comes to in your face nastiness. Brandi has had to deal with a ton of her crap.
*The only way you'd get a Narcissist into therapy is if they thought they were there to collaborate with the therapist on helping someone else fix their issues. They would see the therapist as their peer, even though they had NO formal training. The Narcissist needs no formal training in anything. They are as good as anyone, no one is superior to them. That explains sKate thinking that Michelle Obama could work with HER on educating America on nutrition and children's issues. It also explains why she's never taken advice about anything whether it be mothering or speaking or writing. She's the expert.
Why is the basement such a gawd-awful mess while the cupboards of hoarded canned goods and freezers are so neat ? Does TLC send the organizing team to clean up the whole house except the places to be filmed for 'cleaning house?' Hannah said cleaning the basement was not fun as Kate promised it would be, because it was a chore. Seems like they are not used to cleaning regularly, only during filming, "like the pictures." I have a feeling they live in more chaos than Kate would have us believe- then clean it all up to preserve her organinized-ish persona. I also think she has hoarding tendencies.
AuntieAnn said... 53 I'm watching cleaning house on youtube.
Kate says "I love getting rid of stuff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Well DUH. Tell us something we don't know.
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Kate speak: I loved getting rid of Jon and his stuff. It feels good to say, Jon, you're out of here, your gone and not coming back. Jon's trash. I love it. I love that feeling.
I wonder if Trump knows about kate dissing him on twitter about CA and For Get about it CA and watch her show, with tons o'fun?
I don't know if he posted a tweet about it, but I hope he is saving it for the FINALE! He wants her to show up! hahahaha
. She insisted that she play: "I am smashing pumpkins because I came up with this idea, rest assured." Really! She just oozed anger. ****** DH and I were discussing this over breakfast out this morning. I said that I wished that the husband told his wife that he'd agree to the divorce and not contest a damn thing, if she would get a hysterectomy! The next DS child she has won't be so lucky. How do people not "get it" in this day and age?
Did anyone notice the agonized face she pulled while the kids souvenir shopped in Maine? What was that for? She gave them all $40 and said she let them pick whatever they wanted even if silly things, so what was the issue? (for someone who dislikes stuffed animal, there sure were lot at the yard sale and she encouraged the boys to buy more at that little shop) ***** That is A LOT of money to give a kid in a stupid souvenir store. I'd give $10, tops. #spoiled
OMG, just watched the painting part on youtube. She gets that excited over a frickin' bird?????? When has she ever gushed like that over one of her kids? She makes me sick.
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Unfortunately, she applies that to people too. Her siblings, her parents, her children's aunts and uncles and cousins and grandparents, her husband, friends. Anyone who "doesn't know how to help her". And the kids pay the price.
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling." --- welllll..she wasn't that excited about the results of throwing away the 'family computer'....
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Unfortunately, she applies that to people too. Her siblings, her parents, her children's aunts and uncles and cousins and grandparents, her husband, friends. Anyone who "doesn't know how to help her". And the kids pay the price.
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Yep. The way she said it, I thought she WAS talking about the people in her life who were no longer 'usable'.
Funny thing about that garage sale, she wanted the kids to get rid of all the little bits and pieces that meant soooo much to them (says Kate in her sarcastic tone). Wasn't she the one who loved makin' memories? Now it's trash and needs to be gone. True to form.
And why get rid of halloween decorations? Aren't those the kind of things most people keep and use annually? She'll just go out and buy more junk now, just like Mady said. That house will be filled up again in no time.
Piecin' and patchin' my rosy butt. She's a shopaholic and a hoarder and she's obviously got money to burn.
The boys seem ok and maybe the girls are better behaved with him.
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Without a doubt. I think the atmosphere is completely different when they're with Jon. No screeching, hand flapping, no arbitrary rules or belittling, etc. I hope they're getting from Jon, all of the nurturing, love, structure, and calm parenting that is absent when they're with Kate.
I don't have Twitter and I still don't get this following obsession. Why would Kate want to follow a teenage stranger? Will she befriend her and read her tweets?
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I LUV it that Kate's following these random fans, especially the teens and the rabid sheeple. She now has to either read, or at least scroll thru, all of their inane tweets (which show up on your profile/homepage when you follow someone). I hope she enjoys reading about the teens' obsessions with One Direction, their math homework, finding a ride to the mall, and who did or didn't receive a smile from which guy. And of course the nonsense that the sheeple tweet to each other and the 'haterz'. She asked for it. lol
I am still trying to figure out Twitter. Nine hours ago, more than a hundred BOTS showed up on Kate's TL at the same time. Are these real people paid to follow (each has a photo as an avatar), or are these just something created by Twitter? How do they all show up with exactly the same tweet at the same time? Is there an automated, timed program set up by Twitter (or some other internet system) that sends these tweets simultaneously?
"Oh, why is em tanner wanting kate to be the next bachelorette? Seems strange because kate was so horrible to her. The only good thing about that is it would give the kids a much needed break from the warden."
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Em Tanner? She commented about Kate? The only tweet I saw about the Bachelorette was from the young Emily fan.
I'm sure sKate gives out these token "follows" on twitter and then promptly mutes them so she doesn't have to bother scrolling past them. I'm betting she's got Milo muted and then unmutes her when she needs her for something. I'm sure she doesn't read 95% of what's on her TL, maybe doesn't read at all unless she wants something.
"I totally agree with you. Jon does need to grow up, Kids are not doing great and he has other options other than bars and restaurants at night. The 9-5 excuse for work makes no sense. At close to 40, the party environment needs to end. EOE"
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I would think that a 9 to 5 job might interfere with the time spent with the kids, if you consider that there might have been mandatory overtime/hours on weekends, or if he needed to pick up kids from the bus stop at 4 p.m., or be involved in school events during the day or after school, particularly when Kate is off somewhere doing her "celebrity" thing.
He appears to be happy. Let him be happy. If he likes music and this is his thing, why would anyone tell him to find another job, that he shouldn't be in a "party" atmosphere? Some people just aren't comfortable in the suit and tie, structured 9 to 5 work environment. Jon appears to be a relaxed, laid-back kind of guy. So he's looking at 40. Is that mandatory retirement age for a DJ? He has a job and if he's good at what he does, there is money to be made in that position. More importantly, though, is that he's comfortable with his position. Good for him.
Wondering how much of TFW's crap did SHE get rid of??
Looks like she does not get rid of kid's stuff or old stuff until the cameras come around.. And then she is angry with kids while filming, Why can't she do this while not filming? She is home all day long and am not sure what she does unless she has help The only reason she did this was for a free renovation for 4 brand new bedrooms, with renovations, furniture, bedding, etc.. at no expense to her. TLC sucks!!
Remember when she mocked Jon for wanting to hang onto things that belonged to his father? She's evil. The only things of value are things that belong to her. It's another way to show everyone how inferior they are to her. She hoards her crap, but diminishes others by throwing out there insignificant things.
"He appears to be happy. Let him be happy. If he likes music and this is his thing, why would anyone tell him to find another job, that he shouldn't be in a "party" atmosphere? Some people just aren't comfortable in the suit and tie, structured 9 to 5 work environment. Jon appears to be a relaxed, laid-back kind of guy. So he's looking at 40. Is that mandatory retirement age for a DJ? He has a job and if he's good at what he does, there is money to be made in that position. More importantly, though, is that he's comfortable with his position. Good for him."
Seems like this sort of thing was said about him being a waiter too, and how he was going to make really big tips, etc. How long did that last? Remember he said he was going to invest in the one restaurant? When he was first interviewed about this job, seems like he said something about how he wanted to start up a business training DJs, or something to that affect. This job will last no longer than all of the others before it I am thinking. And I am glad that he seems happy, but I just wish his children seemed happy too.
I'm sure sKate gives out these token "follows" on twitter and then promptly mutes them so she doesn't have to bother scrolling past them. I'm betting she's got Milo muted and then unmutes her when she needs her for something. I'm sure she doesn't read 95% of what's on her TL, maybe doesn't read at all unless she wants something.
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You're right, PJ. It just tickles me to think that she may not know about the mute feature and is having to plow through the nonsense that is tweeted by the fans she's now following.
I saw part of the yard sale episode on YouTube. Oh my gosh, that was so boring. I watched up to Shoka eating his cake, then decided no more. Kate doesn't seem to get pleasure in anything. And Mady..well she shouldn't be filmed at all. And neither should Cara. Actually, neither should any of the kids. It's so sad. The family just doesn't seem happy. Cara not wanting to hug her Mom? What was up with that? And who cares if the books are facing forward? Her chastising Joel (was it Joel?) for not putting the books away properly? Was that really necessary? Maybe he likes his books that way! They were put away. Geez Louise, that was so unnecessary. I felt for the kid.
I watched the Room & Yard Sale Episodes on youtube and I gotta say, Mady, Leah & Hannah would be dropped off at daddy's and left, lol. The boys seem super, super sweet and funny and charming. Alexis too. Poor Cara looks like she's ready to run the first chance she gets. I didn't really believe Kate when she'd tweet about all the shrieking they do, but now I believe it. Seems to be from those 3 especially.
I have to say tho I thought the boys room was really nice! The wainscoting looked great and their secret compartments were neat and they seemed to think that was cool. Looks like a room they could grow into. And Mady's (rose) comforter was beautiful.
He appears to be happy. Let him be happy. If he likes music and this is his thing, why would anyone tell him to find another job, that he shouldn't be in a "party" atmosphere? Some people just aren't comfortable in the suit and tie, structured 9 to 5 work environment. Jon appears to be a relaxed, laid-back kind of guy. So he's looking at 40. Is that mandatory retirement age for a DJ? He has a job and if he's good at what he does, there is money to be made in that position. More importantly, though, is that he's comfortable with his position. Good for him.
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I agree. Jon is listed with a large, premiere entertainment company in the area. He seems to be happy doing something he enjoys and he's earning a living w/o exploiting his kids. He sees his kids and is a loving parent. He's doing what he should be doing. Keep it up, Jon!
I don't have Twitter and I still don't get this following obsession. Why would Kate want to follow a teenage stranger? Will she befriend her and read her tweets? Just the idea of being "followed" seems kind of weird (and creepy) to me. ------ This comment just gave me an aha! moment as to why Twitter is the perfect medium for TFW---everyone listens (reads) her words, but, except for the small group she follows, she doesn't have to be bothered with hearing what anyone else thinks. It is a one-way relationship--the only kind she seems capable of having.
AuntieAnn (#63), silly, why would TFW save Halloween decorations when she admitted she's not into Halloween? She got them on TLC's dime, then sold them and pocketed part of the profit. As any self-respecting piecing-and-patching mom would do.
Sounds like that yard sale was just your typical family event. Oh, except for the TV cameras, and goodie bags, and a jumble of messy items magically turning into an organized one overnight by the TLC fairy. And the staged exit of a family driving away with Mommy's bodyguard, then coming back and leaving with their dad.
Seems like Kate tells the kids how fun filming will be and promises 'rewards.' I think none of the kids want to film and during their couch interviews they appear bored and fidgety and even rude to one another/ bordering on disrespectful to the man asking dumb questions
(However the interviews give them a chance to vent about and imitate Mommy lol)
Winsomeness said... Wouldn't it be better then, to just not say anything at all? --------- IMO, yes! Promoting his business and interfering with his kids' privacy do not have to be synonymous. most celebrities manage to do that. Since he is the one who took the high road for the purpose of protecting their privacy, it makes no sense that he continues to answer each and every question. It just perpetuates the idea that the kids' business is everyone's business. If he is spending time with them, then they know the truth--didn't he say once say that? I wish him all the luck with his new career, but he needs to learn to set boundaries around his relationship with TFW, and the kids' privacy. And, as far as how it reflects on him personally, he just sounds like a completely wishy-washy flake who can't make up his mind. Are the kids showing negative effects from filming, or are they better off for it? Depends on the day. if he cares about protecting his kids' privacy, then he should just refuse to answer any questions at all. They have zero relevance to his job right now.
Serial subject Adnan Syed granted appeal by Maryland court: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/serial-subject-adnan-syed-granted-appeal-state-maryland/
TFW has to pay taxes on the renovations that were made to the house. That is considered a gift and is taxable income. That is what happens to the Extreme Homemakeover shows. They spend a ton of money and the taxes make them sell the house.
There was one house in AZ? Desert heat, huge house and their light bill was insane. I would of said, I am not doing the show unless a solar energy package was installed where it will completely knock out my light bill in a couple of years. Forget the big monster fireplace. The tricked out patio. The indoor rock climbing wall.
Jon was on Tanked on the Animal Planet. The guys that make tricked out fish tanks were at a deli to talk to the owner about a tank job. Jon came in to order food and someone talked to him. I hope he got paid for it.
Thanks for the link. I watched a little, skipped around, and each couch segment was her complaining. Who among you have a roller rack of clothes for your family portraits, plus someone to do the girls' hair and yours, plus your makeup, and have everyone change clothes multiple times......annually? Mere mortals take their kids to Portrait Innovations or something similar and buy reasonable packages. Years ago (before everyone was a 'professional photographer' doing senior photo shoots), I took my nephews there for their senior pictures and they did a good-enough job and we got scads of prints of different poses. We didn't complain at all. But Kate sure did, nonstop! About portraits!
Then I switched to the garage sale episode and it was more of the same. All she does is complain, complain, complain. While I was skipping around, I saw a table set up and paused. She was selling her USED flip flops (and cowboy boots for the kids that she got for free)? Gross! Her old running shoes were there too. WHY? Later, I saw someone holding flip flops and running shoes. I can see using other people's shoes for certain things (shoes that people wear socks with), but not something that goes between your toes and not something that you run miles and miles in. Running shoes are full of bacteria, and I either throw mine away or donate them to an organization that grinds up the soles to make floor or road coverings. I don't even donate them, they are just yucky. And of course, the snippets I watched were of her complaining. I have never seen anyone complain so much. I watch HGTV when I'm running at the gym, and they had a large family on a 2-part episode this week, renovating a house. They had 3 kids and adopted 2 from Ethiopia. Lots of projects - and they had FUN. Sure, they made a mess, and then they cleaned it up. And nobody complained. In fact, they were all delighted to share their first meal in the the only room that was done, which was the dining room. They didn't care if it was just pizza, they were truly happy to have a table/room big enough to all sit at together. Imagine that.
"Seems like this sort of thing was said about him being a waiter too, and how he was going to make really big tips, etc. How long did that last?"
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Maybe this one won't last either, but that's on him to decide, not us. Sometimes it takes quite a few jobs to find the one that you really want. Not everyone sticks with the same job for years and years. If another opportunity comes along that you think is a good fit for you, you take it. At least he had those jobs and was employed instead of living off his kids, which is more than can be said about his former wife.
This comment just gave me an aha! moment as to why Twitter is the perfect medium for TFW---everyone listens (reads) her words, but, except for the small group she follows, she doesn't have to be bothered with hearing what anyone else thinks. It is a one-way relationship--the only kind she seems capable of having.
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Yes!! Ah-ha moments are great.
You're so right about this, it's the perfect medium for a narcissist. Unlike most mediums twitter makes it surprisingly easy to have a relaitonship only on YOUR terms. The tweeter is in the driver's seat. Few other mediums allow for that sort of control.
Maybe this one won't last either, but that's on him to decide, not us. Sometimes it takes quite a few jobs to find the one that you really want. Not everyone sticks with the same job for years and years
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It's much more common to job hop these days and not frowned upon like it used to be. I know extremely successful professionals who went through 4 or 5 different jobs in a decade and nobody batted an eyelash. The problem is in this day in age with few pensions and raises the only way to give yourself a raise or promotion is to move somewhere else. I have heard that most bosses are quite understanding if someone has decided to leave for more pay or a different promotion opportunity. In fact one of my friends said her boss said that she SHOULD take the new job because she couldn't advance anymore at the company and it wasn't fair to her to insist she stay.
Kate constantly jumps from job to job and yet I've never seen a single sheeple point that out. There is nothing stable about her career. She is at the whim of a network.
I hope she enjoys reading about the teens' obsessions with One Direction, their math homework, finding a ride to the mall, and who did or didn't receive a smile from which guy. *************************************************************** Why can I imagine that she DOES enjoy this?
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling." --- welllll..she wasn't that excited about the results of throwing away the 'family computer'....
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haha, good one! I bet she was panting heavily and deliriously happy when she tossed those boxes, maybe even orgasmic!
I don't know if anyone has read the book Columbine, a non-fiction about the shooting. Very interesting and thorough, I'm reading it on vacation. Yes this is what I chose for light reading on vacation!
Anyway, there is an entire chapter about one psychologist's research of the thousands of documents of evidence from the crime and his conclusion is that Eric was a sociopath. Apparently an entire panel of psychologists agreed with him.. The book goes on to explain what sociopaths are, how they operate, how their childhood works, etc.
It does emphasize that most sociopaths are NOT mass murderers.
In any case I know sociopathy interests many here so I thought I would recommend it. It's in chapter nine. Very well done.
OT because tfmjg is boring same old. Lots of fun basketball today. Duke beat Notre Dame by thirty points. University of Virginia plays Louisville at seven on espn. Everyone in the northeast stay warm! Right now in Nags Head NC, it is beautiful, sunny, about 58, the wind is not bad, lovely winter beach day! We did a last minute trip when the weather forecast was good. A friend came down here last week and made me jellus, so I had to go on a road trip too! Tired of snow? Head south!
Maybe this one won't last either, but that's on him to decide, not us. Sometimes it takes quite a few jobs to find the one that you really want. Not everyone sticks with the same job for years and years
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I think that's easier to swallow because Jennifer Anniston seems so self assured about it, really seems like she has moved on, and is in her own good relationship now and about to get married to a gorgeous man. I never got the sense from her she needed validation form the public to know that was wrong.
With Brandi it feels like she hasn't had her closure yet with it. And, they have kids, which makes it much more complicated. Brad and Jennifer never had kids.
Kate constantly jumps from job to job and yet I've never seen a single sheeple point that out. There is nothing stable about her career. She is at the whim of a network.
----- Exactly! She has no stable employment, just hops from job to job, grabbing whatever is offered to her. She was fired from CC, she can't keep her own blog going, and the thing with The Stir didn't work out for her. Did we ever find out what happened there? Was her contract up, or was she fired from that one, too? Sheeple never acknowledge it and pretend that it just didn't happen. It's all Jon's fault, or the employer doing the firing. Kate is perfect, and in their eyes, does no wrong. What a delusional group they are.
I see Milo is back to slamming Jon again, with a hashtag of toxic, complaining and bitter. What an idiot she is, and such a darn hypocrite. She tweets about positivity, not being judgmental, but there she is...right in the thick of things, throwing out those passive-aggressive tweets, kissing Kate's butt.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 11m11 minutes ago @TrippenIn @Kateplusmy8 Seriously ..no one wants a #ToxicComplainingBitter DJ! LOL He has2clean up his public persona now. #GoodForBusiness
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 25m25 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn Good grief was that ever a "flip flop" fr his last few interviews! Trying2play nice now? We'll take it. #WatchUrBack
Watch your back? What in the world does that mean?
She's right, though. Kate might need to watch her back, but not because of Jon...if she ever ignores or offends these uber fans, there's no telling what might happen, and instead of hiding the bunny, she may need to hide the bird.
Has anyone here ever seen or heard of any reality TV show that has to be swiffered because someone's behavior is so awful?I sure haven't. Kate's treatment of her children is so horrible that TLC had to go back and remove particularly abusive scenes to make K+8 palatable enough for public viewing. What does that tell you? TLC is aware of just how badly Kate treats her kids, and there is so little footage that is not objectionable that they have to include at least some of the abuse just to have enough footage to make a show. And, more importantly (to TLC, that is), this drives up production costs, making it more expensive to produce K+8 than to produce shows that do not include abuse of children. I just can't understand why TLC goes along with this.
One of the sheeple tweeted the link to the article about Jon to Kate. Why did Kate feel she had to comment? Jon didn't talk about her in the article.
Tripp @TrippenIn · 1h1 hour ago @Kateplusmy8 Interesting interview Jon gave today. http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/music/mc-dj-jon-gosselin-allentown-bally-kate-20150205-story.html … Lmao ;-)
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 57m57 minutes ago @TrippenIn yeah...hmm...whoever knows from one article to the next...bizarre ...
What's so bizarre, Kate? That Jon actually has a job that does not involve his kids?
Of course, Milo just had to butt in there with her opinion:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 34m34 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn Good grief was that ever a "flip flop" fr his last few interviews! Trying2play nice now? We'll take it. #WatchUrBack
Then when the sheeple told Kate she thinks the DJ job might be good for Jon, again, there's Milo, butting in.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 28m28 minutes ago @TrippenIn @Kateplusmy8 Seriously ..no one wants a #ToxicComplainingBitter DJ! LOL He has2clean up his public persona now. #GoodForBusiness
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 93 I don't know if anyone has read the book Columbine, a non-fiction about the shooting. Very interesting and thorough, I'm reading it on vacation. Yes this is what I chose for light reading on vacation!
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I love true crime books..I read In Cold Blood last vacation
Over And Out said... 94 Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 28m28 minutes ago @TrippenIn yeah...hmm...whoever knows from one article to the next...bizarre ...
We were wrong. She threw him under the bus.
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She is such a bitch. If she doesn't "want a relationship" with him, whatever (although I don't see how she thinks that makes her look good), but you don't badmouth your kids father in front of them. And I'm pretty sure doing it on Twitter counts as in front of them.
(Leslie) Admin. interesting comments about Eric being a sociopath. Did the book mention if that is an in-bred trait or is it something learned?
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They addressed just that. They said that they believe it is a combination. They said you are born to be predisposed to sociopathy, and that some trigging event or upbringing can bring it out.
They actually talk about interview studies with real sociopaths and that this one bank robber said that it would confuse him when he would rob a bank and people would start crying or throwing up or getting upset. He didn't understand it, as he didn't find the situation upsetting himself. They pointed to that as an extreme lack of empathy, a total inability to understand someone feeling emotions.
I'm afraid I sometimes mix up Eric and Dylan so forgive me for that, but Eric was the ringleader and more confident and Dylan more the follower. Both of their upbringings were fairly normal, no obvious red flags. One of them had a rather strict father, but nothing abusive. At least one of the families bent over backwards to get their son therapy and other help before it happened.
Eric I believe they said had all of the signs of sociopathy except one, which was abusing animals.
The book dispels a lot of myths, including that Casey Burnal never said anything about believing in God when she was shot. Several girls who were right with her said she didn't say anything at all. The girl was made a martyr over something that never happened and the investigators hated to tell her parents the story wasn't true.
He said nothing negative about her in that interview and he was complimentary and supportive of the children, which she should take as a reflection on her.
It's one thing to play tit for tat but to make a snide slam at him when he's being NICE is just sociopathic.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 34m34 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn Good grief was that ever a "flip flop" fr his last few interviews! Trying2play nice now? We'll take it. #WatchUrBack
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I see Milo really DOES have a little bit of bitch in her.
I love true crime books..I read In Cold Blood last vacation
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Yes I know so do I. I think you will find this one very interesting then.
When I read true crime books I like extreme detail. This book does that. Not only does it go through what happened minute by minute but it also spends a great deal of time examining the shooters' entire upbringing as well as what psychologists have to say.
It also dispels some common misunderstandings but in a way that is always respectful to the victims.
Its thoroughness very much appealed to me. There was so much it talked about I either never knew or completely forgot about, like how many of the students ran to a nearby neighborhood and that some people opened up their homes to 50 or 60 students until it was safe.
Milo is tweeting with glee all the while bashing Jon.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 13m13 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn Jon changes his mind like a weather vane...whichever way public opinion blows there he goes.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Clearly his bitter #TrashMyEx approach did not work. Kate is succeeding...people R seeing her N good light! :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 7m7 minutes ago So U critics of @kateplusmy8 Ur #SaintJon has flipflopped on U again. Now he says he has no regrets abt kids being filmed. Says it all good!
Funny how when Jon has something positive to say she believes him, but when he says something negative, she thinks he's lying through his teeth.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Clearly his bitter #TrashMyEx approach did not work. Kate is succeeding...people R seeing her N good light! :)
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But Kate calling him Bizarre isn't being a bitter critic?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Clearly his bitter #TrashMyEx approach did not work. Kate is succeeding...people R seeing her N good light! :)
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But Kate calling him Bizarre isn't being a bitter critic?
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What is the most bizarre is that Milo and the Sheep can't see that Kate is the one who has trashed Jon whenever she gets the chance. She just did it, for heaven's sake!
How could anyone be that dense? Granted, they are sheeple, but still you would expect that just one among them could open their eyes for just a minute.
I see Milo really DOES have a little bit of bitch in her.
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A LITTLE bit? It seems that Milo is a royal bitch. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Every so often she shows her true colors. I wouldn't trust that one as far as I could throw her. Under all the kindness, peace, love and joy is a very nasty woman (or man) who would turn on you in a heartbeat.
I love true crime books. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Our Guys by Bernard Lefkowitz is a good long one...about the Glen Ridge gang rape of a teenage mentally challenged girl and how their being athletes made them 'less guilty' in the eyes of their community
Kate read the article. When she saw the tweets, she either should have kept her mouth shut, or made one simple tweet like, "He seems to enjoy this new job, and I hope everything works out for him." The end. Period. No more comments.
I just don't understand why she just can't figure out the appropriate thing to do or say in these circumstances. I don't think it's ignorance or stupidity, so what is it? Or is she just mean and spiteful and doesn't give a rat's rear end that she comes across as being a bitter ex-wife?
Or is it immaturity? It almost seems that her behavior is like that of a middle school mean girl. It's that mentality that she puts forth and simply can't seem to grow up.
At least Jon is working. TFW recently revealed her career plans -- something about waiting to see what happens next, and looking for something "comfortable." According to the fans, Jon doesn't contribute a red cent to raising the kids. So how come the person who has 9 mouths to feed gets off so easy? Shouldn't she at least grab some part-time nursing gig -- maybe even working from home -- to pad her bank account between these TV gigs?
I love true crime books. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Our Guys by Bernard Lefkowitz is a good long one...about the Glen Ridge gang rape of a teenage mentally challenged girl and how their being athletes made them 'less guilty' in the eyes of their community
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I actually went to Kindergarten in Glen Ridge but that was back in the 70s. The gang rape story was horrific
It does not matter what Jon says. It does not matter what Jon does for a living. I truly believe that the only thing that would make Kate and her die-hard sheeple happy is if he were dead. Not a single one cares if the children want a father in their lives.
In some ways, I could understand if Kate is bitter. She has her idea of how the marriage went. But the sheeple being so bitter-I just can't comprehend. They have true hatred for Jon even though they've never met him and have no idea about the parts of the marriage that went on behind closed doors. Hatred.
Admin, I read Columbine years ago and had the same thoughts. Parts of it were chilling. And as you point out, most sociopaths just fly under the radar.
Isn't Columbine the book where they brought up the fact that a few of the families said they were manipulated, i.e., the girl who supposedly died for her faith? What the media reported was very distorted and simply didn't happen. It's been a while so my memory was fuzzy, but I thought that rewriting of history was interesting indeed. I think her parents even wrote a book about it - knowing it wasn't true. Or something like that....
You may also like Under the Banner of Heaven, another non-fiction about murder in a polygamist community. I think it's written by Jon Krakauer.
You know, 5 years ago, I think TFW might actually have had a shot at a spot on The View. Not the strongest contender, but she could've been in the top 10 of choices. But now I think she's perceived as more of a "character" than a real person. Or even worse, a caricature.
Imagine her on The View now trying to intelligently discuss current events "Well, I only read the headline, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about. You know, I'm the busy mom of 8. But let me know when the American Idol discussion comes up, because I never miss a minute of that!"
Local, what a coincidence! That story really made my blood boil apart from the magnitude of the crime.
Have you read any books on the Paul Bernardo/Karla Homolka crimes? That was in my old stomping ground, and also horrific events. Invisible Darkness was a good book about the schoolgirl murders and Scarborough rapist. I remember my mother telling me not to wait inside bus shelters at that time because that was a place PB often found his victims.
All the experts said unequivocally Dylan did NOT fit the criteria for a sociopath, just Eric. Rather Dylan he was deeply depressed. They found him difficult to figure out because depressed people usually hurt themselves not others. While they hold him accountable yes they do think Dylan was manipulated by Eric.
Yes that is the one about Casey Burnall in which her story took off about proclaiming her faith when the truth was several witnesses said he just shot her right away before she had a chance to say a word. There was actually ANOTHEr girl who SURVIVED who had a similar story to Casey's but in her case he asked her after he shot her if she still believed and she said yes. But her story did not take off but speculation is her story somehow got morphed into Casey's. Stephen Curtis Chapman even wrote an extremely successful song about it called This is Your Time I think.
Basically they have AUDIO TAPES from Casey being shot that prove she didn't say anything because a student was on the phone with 911 and it recorded her death. The authorities realized this some time after and they felt obligated to tell her parents the truth. But they told them it very, very gently and they said you should still write her book because she was still a Christian. Casey wasn't the perfect Christian girl as portrayed. She actually had a lot of issues and her parents really struggled with her at times, she was even suicidal at one point, and if I'm not mistaken they had to switch her schools or something. She was troubled, not an angel.
Kate read the article. When she saw the tweets, she either should have kept her mouth shut, or made one simple tweet like, "He seems to enjoy this new job, and I hope everything works out for him." The end. Period. No more comments.
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That's what a mature woman would do, like say Jennifer Anniston. Kate however is 14 years old.
I think I read In Cold Blood in high school but didn't remember much about it. I read it again this past year and found it really interesting but disturbing. I watched the Capote movie as well.
Yes I read a few about Bernardo/Homolka! Crazy! I also read the one by the woma who tracked Her down on an island where she lives with her husband (the brother of her attorney) and kids
uh, FlimsyFlamsy, don't speak too soon (insert sarcasm icon here). Kate IS working!!!! She tells us about it in her tweet today. Seems she is busy "working" (on a Saturday afternoon, of course, when the kids are home) and Alexis brings her a snack. Kate tips her $1, and A starts singing the CA theme song. So many lies in 140 characters, starting with the fact that CA does not HAVE a theme song.
CA has a *theme* song. It uses "For the Love of Money" by the O'Jays. From the early 70's. It is the opening of that song that is heard - "Money, money money money money" repeated 5 or 6 times
Mel said... 131 I was just going to ask what *is* CA's theme song? I don't recall hearing one. ================= The song "For the Love of Money" by the O'Jays, from 1973, is the song that is played at the opening of the show. So I guess you could consider that the CA theme song, even though it wasn't written specifically for the show.
I remember reading somewhere that Donald Trump was upset that H&R Block uses the same song in their current commercials.
That's what a mature woman would do, like say Jennifer Anniston. Kate however is 14 years old.
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Yes, but why can we see this, but Kate and the sheep can't figure this out? Are they all 14 years old and/or intellectually-challenged to the point where all of this escapes them? It's not rocket science, nor does it require a master's in English. It's a simple tweet, but shows so much class and maturity.
Sometimes you just want to put your fist through the wall when you read come of the idiotic stuff they come up with. The sad thing is that they don't know that they haven't yet gotten past the sixth grade.
That's what a mature woman would do, like say Jennifer Anniston. Kate however is 14 years old.
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Wow your estimation was a couple of years ahead of mine. What a bitter wretch, I have a feeling the Krieders enjoy, even savor the separation from this vile human.
Talk about playing gothcha!...Milo sure loves to play that game with Jon, doesn't she.
She takes such pleasure when things aren't going right for him, and works hard to dismiss and demean anything he does right, denigrating him at every opportunity. Hard to fathom why she's so obsessed with Jon.
Sure would like to know someday if he/she is TFW, Steve, a paid shill, or truly some nutcase.
I love true crime books. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Our Guys by Bernard Lefkowitz is a good long one...about the Glen Ridge gang rape of a teenage mentally challenged girl and how their being athletes made them 'less guilty' in the eyes of their community
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I actually went to Kindergarten in Glen Ridge but that was back in the 70s. The gang rape story was horrific
**************************************** Ok, this blog is proving what a small world we live in. I grew up in Glen Ridge and graduated in 1981 with the female police detective who broke the case. BTW, another GRHS alumni is a NJ state senator and will most likely be our next governor or senator (Mike Doherty) so you read it here first.
Admin, thanks for the recommendation on the book "Columbine." I have been debating whether or not to read this for several years now.
A LITTLE bit? It seems that Milo is a royal bitch. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Every so often she shows her true colors. I wouldn't trust that one as far as I could throw her. Under all the kindness, peace, love and joy is a very nasty woman (or man) who would turn on you in a heartbeat.
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Amen. Exactly. In addition to being very creepy, she exudes a persona of a vindictive character. There was a reason that the neighbors or family members or whatever they were packed up in the middle of the night and fled without a word to her. Something is very "off" there, and while we may never know exactly who or what she is, if I were Kate, I really would #watchmyback.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h3 hours ago @Kateplusmy8 He has so many glowing positive things 2say abt filming now..maybe he wants U 2warm up 2idea of co-parent filming w/him again?
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Um, what? SHE is the one who refuses to coparent. AND WTF does coparenting and filming have to do with one another?
As Jon comes to peace with things and grows happier, Kate becomes more manic and bitter. (she wishes him well) I am smiling knowing how unhappy she is this weekend. Maybe I'll drive by and listen for smashing sconces! With filming at an end, or a halt perhaps Kate will take a break and be nice to the children....ah who am I kidding?! Soon it will be time for photos of broken things around the house. By now there must be another towel rack in need of fixing.... I am certain half of her tweets are for Stevie to show how much in need she is....................of having things.........FIXED.
Something that would be really fun to watch would be CWS between the original octo mom (TFW) and the copycat one.
None of this nonsense of sending TFW to a household with a single child, cook, housekeeper, nanny.
Let's send her where she's ''comfortable", with 8 kids. Let's see her do the single mom of 8 kids act. After all, she's a pro at it. Snark.
This could be win, win. The kids are going to be filmed anyway, TFW gets her face on teevee, and the copycat octo mom gets some much needed dollars.
It would be pretty funny watching TFW cook for all those kids, with no craft services. Watch her wrinkle her nose at the living arrangements. See all of her facial expressions at actually having to do some work.
I am certain now that Milo's feelings for Kate are off the chart weird. Honestly I felt bad for her in the past. I do think she is a female and started as just another fan. I honestly do. But she has become obsessed and oddly attracted, well more like attached to Kate. Anyone who dare speak against her queen, Milo goes warp speed from southern pecan pie philosophy into down right NASTY! And anyone of Kate's stage friends who appear on twitter, Milo pecks at until even us "haters" feel embarrassed. Really really odd. I don't think she's gay. I think she's just down right, well obsessed to the point of being unstable.
RonnieandMaggie said... 138 I love true crime books. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Our Guys by Bernard Lefkowitz is a good long one...about the Glen Ridge gang rape of a teenage mentally challenged girl and how their being athletes made them 'less guilty' in the eyes of their community
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I actually went to Kindergarten in Glen Ridge but that was back in the 70s. The gang rape story was horrific
**************************************** Ok, this blog is proving what a small world we live in. I grew up in Glen Ridge and graduated in 1981 with the female police detective who broke the case. BTW, another GRHS alumni is a NJ state senator and will most likely be our next governor or senator (Mike Doherty) so you read it here first.
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Really? I wish I remembered the name of the elementary school. We lived across the street from it. My dad was air force so we moved around a lot. We were in Texas before that year when he went to Thailand on TDY and we moved to NJ to be close to my parents' families. Anyway, being the 70s, I crossed the street by myself and one day a police officer reprimanded me for not going all the way down to the corner to cross at the light. Sigh. Anyway, the school is now (or was several years ago) a bank.
Localyocal: The elementary school where you went to kindergarten was Central Avenue School. There were 3 elementary schools in Glen Ridge in the 1970s (I went to Linden Ave. on the south end of town). Yes, it was turned into a bank due to low enrollment at the time. Glen Ridge was kicking itself in the 1990s for doing that because the GR public school system is one of the best in NJ and young families move in in droves in order for their kids to get a great public education.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h3 hours ago @Kateplusmy8 He has so many glowing positive things 2say abt filming now..maybe he wants U 2warm up 2idea of co-parent filming w/him again? ____
Ah Milo you didn't disappoint me I knew you'd do this and I know you'd take my tweet as bait to her your queen.
reader said, "I don't think she's gay. I think she's just down right, well obsessed to the point of being unstable."
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She could be bi, couldn't she? I mean, why is she attached to Kate? Out of all the celebrities with whom to become obsessed, how did she happen to pick Kate? She probably needed someone desperately when something in her own life went bad, but there are so many attractive male celebrities out there. Why Kate?
Look at Uber Uggs. Yes, she likes female celebrities, but most of her attention is focused on African American male comedy performers. I mean, that woman is so hot to trot that I can't imagine her friends aren't embarrassed by her...
@michaelstrahan hey if taking volunteers to try out Kelly's dating tips #MeMeMe lol #AgirlCanDream #YouWontBeSingleLong you are such a catch
Back to Milo.I agree with reader. Gladys is unstable, and she (or he or it) scares me, especially after watching the Selena movie this afternoon.
Susie (151): "Back to Milo.I agree with reader. Gladys is unstable, and she (or he or it) scares me, especially after watching the Selena movie this afternoon."
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What is really disturbing is that I think Milo really does believe that she is part of Kate's life, on a very personal level. In fact, when you look at some of her tweets, it seems that she thinks that she IS Kate. Notice how many times she uses "we."
I suspect that there's no going back for her, and this could get very worse. For Kate's sake, she really should distance herself from this. She has morphed from this "supportive" fan into something that just isn't normal no matter which way you look at it.
RonnieandMaggie said... 149 Localyocal: The elementary school where you went to kindergarten was Central Avenue School. There were 3 elementary schools in Glen Ridge in the 1970s (I went to Linden Ave. on the south end of town). Yes, it was turned into a bank due to low enrollment at the time. Glen Ridge was kicking itself in the 1990s for doing that because the GR public school system is one of the best in NJ and young families move in in droves in order for their kids to get a great public education.
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Thanks! I wanted t ask my mom but sadly she lost her youngest brother suddenly today
(Leslie) Better Call Saul is starting tonight. Also on Monday night there will be another new episode. For those who watch CA, you can see CA on the NBC website the next day.
Better Call Saul is the lawyer from the super hit Breaking Bad. It startes six years before BB. The reviews have all been great. For those who have not seen BB, it was a super great show. Many have said that it was one of the best TV has ever seen. It won numerous emmys. And it does not matter if you have not seen BB before. You don't have to watch Better Call Saul. It will have the same writers, producers, etc. as BB. So it should be a great show.
Does Kate seriously expect people to feel sorry for her because she's facing the consequences of the choices SHE made and continues to make?
I feel sorry for the KIDS because of the horrible way she treats them. All she does is yell, threaten, lecture and complain - no wonder the kids are so unhappy. I don't blame them all for already talking about wanting to move out as soon as they're old enough. And when that time comes, I wouldn't be surprised if some or even all of them move as far away from Kate as possible and cutting her out of their lives completely.
And as for her expecting them to be grateful for what she does for them - it should be the other way around. SHE should be thanking THEM because if it weren't for them, she'd be a NOBODY!
Um, what? SHE is the one who refuses to coparent. AND WTF does coparenting and filming have to do with one another?
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That's so typical. Hey Gladys? "Co-parenting" does not mean one stubborn, immature, hellbent, money-hungry parent tries to get their way with their kids until the other parent finally caves and gives in because it's just not worth it anymore. I'm sad for you that's how you define such a thing.
Condolences on the loss of your uncle Localyocul. GR was a great place to grow up. I live in N. NJ and still get together with my GR friends and consider them my oldest and dearest.
I would like to add recommending a book that was written on the crime spree of Alvin and Judith Neelly in the early 80's. Alvin was 26 years old and met up with Judith Ann Adams when she was 15 years old and they eloped in 1980.
They became the hillbilly version of Bonnie and Clyde. They were known as Boney and Claude. They were a 2 person wrecking crew leaving death and destruction everywhere they went. I did a huge paper on them for my criminal justice class and I knew the major crime that they committed, but I didn't realize how they destroyed so many lives, damaged property, hurting and killing people.
I decided to look them up last night because of all of the crimes everyone was talking about here. I came across a book called Early Graves by Thomas Cook. It has good reviews on Amazon. I don't know when it was written but I saw that you can get a used one starting at 1 cent.
I remember on the local news that for the first day of Judith's trial, the talk all around town was that her law team took her to the most expensive place to get her fixed up. I saw on tv walking in handcuffs with her hair rolled up like Farrah Fawcett.
It was so sickening to see her all dressed up knowing she had kidnapped 13 yr. old Lisa Ann Millican and what she and her husband did to her. Plus Judith was birthing babies all through this!
On February 28, 2008, the Neelleys' case was profiled on the Investigation Discovery program Most Evil. On a scale developed by forensic psychiatrist Michael Stone, Judith was ranked as a category 22 killer, the "most evil" level deemed for serial torture murderers.
I haven't seen this show, but I am going to look it up and watch it.
Tizzie said... 157 Does Kate seriously expect people to feel sorry for her because she's facing the consequences of the choices SHE made and continues to make? ____-
Um she wants people to feel sorry for her cause she sooo tired and the kids are now standing up for themselves.
I hope the kids keep on standing-up for themselves.
I couldn't believe it when Kate said she tipped Alexis for bringing her a snack..who does that sort of thing? My sons and daughter-in-laws are always doing things for me, and I in turn baby sit for them on occasion. No money is ever involved..family members just do thing for each other..who would ever think they needed to be tipped or paid, especially when they are children?
The childrens father's job, life was mediocre in Kate's eyes and she took to the media to say so. I guess she felt it was something the world needed to know. Now apparently he is bizarre. I'm confused, are all DJs bizarre? Or is giving a positive interview and saying good things about your children, is that whats bizarre? The above was snark, please don't feel the need to explain the comment of the 40 year old bitterly divorced, unemployed, former wife from rural central Pa. Hey what kind of Acronym would that be! Another new word to describe Kate talk, "equivocate." In Kate's bent mind, if you're going to disappoint her and not be capable of millions, then as a husband who has just been told the marriage is over you had better be able to lie to the cameras on the "realist reality show ever" and pretend you still worship your wretched. ..oops I meant wife.
Last thing, like others here I'm afraid the kids are doomed and filming, albeit sporadic, will continue until something goes horribly wrong. They really are a modern sideshow act.
Ex Nurse said... 81 Winsomeness said... Wouldn't it be better then, to just not say anything at all? --------- IMO, yes! Promoting his business and interfering with his kids' privacy do not have to be synonymous. most celebrities manage to do that. Since he is the one who took the high road for the purpose of protecting their privacy, it makes no sense that he continues to answer each and every question. It just perpetuates the idea that the kids' business is everyone's business. If he is spending time with them, then they know the truth--didn't he say once say that? I wish him all the luck with his new career, but he needs to learn to set boundaries around his relationship with TFW, and the kids' privacy. And, as far as how it reflects on him personally, he just sounds like a completely wishy-washy flake who can't make up his mind. Are the kids showing negative effects from filming, or are they better off for it? Depends on the day. if he cares about protecting his kids' privacy, then he should just refuse to answer any questions at all. They have zero relevance to his job right now.
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Well said, and the section involving the kids enjoying filming never needed to be said, as at least 4-6 of the kids were NOT enjoying filming at all! Ex Nurse said... 81 Winsomeness said... Wouldn't it be better then, to just not say anything at all? --------- IMO, yes! Promoting his business and interfering with his kids' privacy do not have to be synonymous. most celebrities manage to do that. Since he is the one who took the high road for the purpose of protecting their privacy, it makes no sense that he continues to answer each and every question. It just perpetuates the idea that the kids' business is everyone's business. If he is spending time with them, then they know the truth--didn't he say once say that? I wish him all the luck with his new career, but he needs to learn to set boundaries around his relationship with TFW, and the kids' privacy. And, as far as how it reflects on him personally, he just sounds like a completely wishy-washy flake who can't make up his mind. Are the kids showing negative effects from filming, or are they better off for it? Depends on the day. if he cares about protecting his kids' privacy, then he should just refuse to answer any questions at all. They have zero relevance to his job right now. ----------------------
Gosselin says he watches his children on TV and says the children, now 10 and 13, assert their independence now on the show.
"They're doing really well,' he says. "I think they are more well rounded because of it and they all handle celebrity really well." Filming. Really? I saw the opposite with at least 4-5 not comfortable with filming.
And a further quote from Jon-
"However he says it was hard being "ridiculed" in his own hometown during the couple's very public divorce."
"There is no privacy," he says.
Hello! Your kids have no privacy or protection against filming!
I think Milo's comment means that she feels that Jon is reaching out and wants another show with TFW that will show them co-parenting. Jon & Kate Co-Parent 8. It seems to be her way of saying that she thinks Jon is as much of a fame whore as TFW.
I'm looking forward to Better Call Saul AND the return of The Walking Dead Tonight. If Better Call Saul and CA conflict I'll just TiVo one and watch the other on Monday night.
Localyocul, sincere condolences to you and your family.
TFW has been so vocal about providing organic food for her kids, as another "aren't I a great mom" feather in her cap. Does she not realize the rancor she still has for their father can not only damage their psyches, but can be detrimental to their physical well being, too? The stress this introduces into their lives can lead to myriad health problems. You'd think a nurse would realize that.
Calling your ex's behavior "bizarre" on a public forum like Twitter is not a step towards co-parenting. It is the behavior of an arrested adolescent. Just my opinion, of course.
Milo- Wow- so twisted! Some of us don't think these kids should be continue to be filmed, but your girl Kate is the one who insisted on filming, in spite of the wear and teat on her kids. Jon did not agree with this for years.
Although I did not agree with Jon's recent statement, TFW (it is HER show) solely insists that these kids continue to film as much as possible, in spite of the fact that so many of these kids have checked out. NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF!
Hi Milo- Let's be clear. Several of these kids are showing signs of not wanting to film and Kate (your BFF) controls requiring filming of the 8. So please stop acting like it's a "happy" event for all of the kids. At least half have checked out on filming, so I don't think this is anything to be proud of. Your Tweets are simply not supporting the obvious best interest of the KIDS, but do what you must.
Sunday Morning, photographer, musician Henry Diltz...oh, the sweet music! Love his work. Love the memories. Album art, another nearly extinct very creative niche profession.
The kids appear to either resent Kate ('bout time!) or be cowed into submission (those sweet boys). What do you think happens when those boys can physically outmaneuver her? Will they still shrink away for their many non-transgressions? Or will at least one of them lean into her instead of away from her and let her know that this shit WILL stop now. I hope one of them finally does this; they've been abused for far too long.
I'm looking forward to Better Call Saul AND the return of The Walking Dead Tonight. If Better Call Saul and CA conflict I'll just TiVo one and watch the other on Monday night.
And when the fans jump to insult the father of 8 children, they really out themselves as supporters of TFW and only TFW. I believe they sincerely wish Jon ill, and I don't think they give a rat's butt about those kids. Who could've watched all those seasons of J&K+8, and saw the love and tenderness those kids had for their daddy, and vice versa, and then years later are gleefully waiting for him to end up in the gutter? Is there a moment's thought to how that might devestate his children?
Calling your ex's behavior "bizarre" on a public forum like Twitter is not a step towards co-parenting. It is the behavior of an arrested adolescent. Just my opinion, of course.
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Your opinion is widely shared! Without a doubt Kate Krieder is guilty of parental alienation. She isn't capable of empathy or sympathy, certainly lacking in any kind of understanding that Jon is not simply her ex, HE IS Cara's Dad, Collin's Dad, Dad to all 8. When you tear down a child's parent, you are condemning a little bit of them too.
readerlady said... 60 "I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Unfortunately, she applies that to people too. Her siblings, her parents, her children's aunts and uncles and cousins and grandparents, her husband, friends. Anyone who "doesn't know how to help her". And the kids pay the price. ---------------- Great post! I am from a huge family and all of my relatives helped and shaped who I am today. It takes a village, not a circus freak show, for kids to feel good about themselves.
I wish I knew some cool single woman, who would be a great partner to Jon, ready to don the suit of emotional armor needed in any kind of relationship with that viscous 40 year old, unemployed, bitterly divorced, former wife. Its obvious Jon has a lot of love to give, and deserves the special kindness only a partner can share.
Tizzie said... 157 Does Kate seriously expect people to feel sorry for her because she's facing the consequences of the choices SHE made and continues to make?
I feel sorry for the KIDS because of the horrible way she treats them. All she does is yell, threaten, lecture and complain - no wonder the kids are so unhappy. I don't blame them all for already talking about wanting to move out as soon as they're old enough. And when that time comes, I wouldn't be surprised if some or even all of them move as far away from Kate as possible and cutting her out of their lives completely.
And as for her expecting them to be grateful for what she does for them - it should be the other way around. SHE should be thanking THEM because if it weren't for them, she'd be a NOBODY! ------------------
Thanks guys. Yes, he was my favorite uncle..my mom's baby brother of 9 countem 9 kids. I've never lost anyone suddenly like this and it's just so shocking. He was only in his early 60s. Which seems younger and younger as the years go by
At age 10 the thought of moving out of my home never even entered my head. I'm guessing that they've heard TFW say "if you don't like the way I run things you can move out". How else would a child ever even have such a thought.
PA has some pretty strict rules for teen drivers getting a license.
The kids appear to either resent Kate ('bout time!) or be cowed into submission (those sweet boys). What do you think happens when those boys can physically outmaneuver her? Will they still shrink away for their many non-transgressions? Or will at least one of them lean into her instead of away from her and let her know that this shit WILL stop now. I hope one of them finally does this; they've been abused for far too long.
********* I "honestly" believe those girls will be the ones to start fighting back, physically and verbally. Tfw's is setting the stage. One thing about her abuse on the boys is she is consistent. They know their place as we can all see. They may rebel, but I have a feeling it will be hidden from their warden. All they want is a loving mom. even when being coerced into saying something negative by the interviewer, they give out a fraction of the badmouthing those girls give. With the girls, she's been giving them mixed messages from the beginning. They get rewarded for the same behavior that the boys get punished . (Cupcakes?) She wants the girls (minus one of them) to be her BBFone minute, ignores them the next. Bffs on HER terms, cuz when she's in a mood, she's in a mood! She let's some things slide, let's them walk all over her until, I'm sure, she blows a gasket and unleashes hell. There will be some very very disturbing behavior I'm predicting. The boys may just all grown up to be the Golden children
Well, I disagree a little that the kids shouldn't be grateful . Yes, it's because of them that the family has money, the means to pay for private school, the house and all other wordly goods.Kate should be grateful to them, but she's only happy her scheme for fame and fortune worked. Now she has the eight growing children to contend with and she knows she's outnumbered, I know they have suffered terribly-that's what drew me to this blog. But I do feel their personalities (some of them) mirror their mother's in terms of being spoiled and feeling entitled, expressed by their poor attitudes and quarrelsome behavior.Kate has turned them to this path, Funny the ones treated the worst seem to have fared the best in terms of personality and good attitudes ( the boys) We'll see what the future hold for all 8.I don't think I worded this well, but Kate reaped what she sowed in terms of the girls.That does not mean I blame the kids or don't feel badly for all of them.
Winsomeone said... 165 I couldn't believe it when Kate said she tipped Alexis for bringing her a snack..who does that sort of thing? My sons and daughter-in-laws are always doing things for me, and I in turn baby sit for them on occasion. No money is ever involved..family members just do thing for each other..who would ever think they needed to be tipped or paid, especially when they are children?
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Then TFW needs to cough up a truckload of tipping money for JON! coffee made to her specifications brought to her in bed at a certain time, like room service in a 5 star hotel! Getting each child bathed, fed, clothed, into bed each night, getting them ready for school, picking them up.
Someone posted you don't plan cleaning your house out to have a big yard sale, a photoshoot AND a birthday party and filming ALL at the same time on a weekend! Couldn't agree more!
She was awful saying that she had wasted a week working on the photoshoot project. She is nuts! What did she do? Send a few emails back and forth and approve this or approve that? Go online and order some clothes, click this, click that? Piecing and a patching!
I really, really believe she did not give all the money to the shelter. They were 300+ people there and the kids had at least 20 grab bags for 2 dollars apiece. That is 40 dollars out of the 1111.55. Only 60 dollars to 100 dollars and that is a little over 10% to the total she gave. Then people giving her money, hand over fist and all of the food that was sold. She made more than that total.
This yard sale just was not kosher. She's LYING and DECIEVING, AGAIN!
I wonder if Kate ever watches her episodes and goes like:" oh boy, thats a lot of drama about nothing-bitchin-moaning-screeching-complaining- fighting, eyerolling and weird funny faces"........ because I sure do!
So um, this would be funnyish if not for the painful part. Having come down with a moderate case of shingles this past week I a) seriously doubt the biotch had shingles and b) care even less about her pathetic life. The comments here do continue to amuse me. And trust me, I do need some serious amusing.
With Kate calling Jon bizarre in her tweet, I can't help but be reminded of her painfully long and inane lecture to Collin over his comment concerning his sister's hair.
Agghhh, the daily mind f**ks the Gosselin children must endure.
Excluding mental illness, I believe we are born with some innate qualities, honesty being one of them. Then if in a healthy happy environment such qualties are nourished and we thrive as a member of the human race. Sorry for the gibberish... Sometimes we learn, that being completely honest doesn't benefit anyone, ex: telling your daughter's teacher you think she's morbidly obese." But those little white lies we tell are and should be used only when our conscience tells us it is the best thing, the right thing to do. And i do mean "little," sometimes its just a matter of not telling everything. Some people learn eventually that being honest is worth it, if only because getting caught later generally comes with a heavy price. So maybe in that moment their nature is to lie, but thinking about the consequence is what keeps them honest, in that moment. Hopefully they feel better afterwards and learn from it. I think in people like Kate Gosselin all of this is lacking. Her moral compass is cracked. Just my opinion, but for Kate, money and fame greatly outweigh the value of honest and decent.
reader said... 197 With Kate calling Jon bizarre in her tweet, I can't help but be reminded of her painfully long and inane lecture to Collin over his comment concerning his sister's hair. -----------------
It is sad and disturbing that KATE will never recognize her own "bizarre" behavior - think back to the RV trip as well as many other of her shows.
Didn't like Jon's article, but she has offended so many times with her behavior, shows, articles, shows, that it would have been best to keep it shut.
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Martha said... 190
I loathe, detest, despise and hate TFW
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I don't hate her. I can remember my grandmother telling me when I was a kid that you should never say you hate anyone, but that there are a lot of people you like much better! That always stuck with me.
What I feel for Kate is frustration. I mean, really frustrated that someone can't sit down and tell her the facts of life and have her understand what she's doing to those children in her desperate attempt to live the lifestyle to which she thinks she is entitled. Would she understand? Probably not, but there must be someone in her life who could knock some sense into her. That's what I feel...frustration.
I also feel that same frustration about the sheeple...that they are so far into the worship of her that they can't think logically, and are unable to see the whole picture without rose-colored glasses. These children were not put on this earth for their amusement, and those fans crying out for "more, more, we need more episodes" are probably among the most selfish I've ever seen. Gladys and her six or so cronies lead the flock.
We're also expecting maybe a foot or more this week- what a winter. 197
Formerly, I am northwest of you (based on a conversation long ago) and I am dreading the upcoming storm. Enough is enough.
Rev. John Kish @RevJohnkish 1h1 hour ago Warren, MI
@Kateplusmy8 Sad to see u leave Celebrity Apprentice. You were shafted! Your a awesome, loving lady. 😍
This tweet from a "reverend" made me think of Rev. Craig Yoshihara, formerly of Roswell UMC. I often wondered what he thought of the drunken foot-licking episode in the NYC bar.
Just caught something else that makes me wonder about a theology degree:
"Your a awesome, loving lady"
PA Dutch Mom (#4), wonder if Rev. John caught the awesome,
loving lady's retweet about someone thinking she's hot.
"You were shafted" -- is that what the kids are calling it
these days? Okay, I'll take a seat in my time-out spot
(consult your blueprint for all the designated areas).
Sascha @Sassccha 21m21 minutes ago
@nochanceofrain @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 O geez K8 up to old flim flam tricks. Pic taken a few yrs ago - NO recent pic of Shoka in house.
Nope. That's current homework. I seriously doubt that Kate used an old picture and photo shopped a current homework sheet onto the picture.
It's not a shock collar, as some claimed on Twitter. There's an electric fence around the property, and that's the collar that's used with the system.
Alicia Weicht @Cheer_alicia_09 16m16 minutes ago Pennsylvania, USA
@Kateplusmy8 I know you guys had a huge yardsale, that I sadly missed. Do you do meet and greets anywhere? I want a autograph on your book!
Of course! A meet and greet! What a great idea! I'm not sure what she would sign, but hey, let's schedule some! However,you might want to check with the venue first to make sure she's where she is supposed to be. She has been known to hide and cry in closets!
I think this young one was sleeping during that extensive cookbook signing tour! You blinked, you missed it.
This tweet from a "reverend" made me think of Rev. Craig Yoshihara, formerly of Roswell UMC. I often wondered what he thought of the drunken foot-licking episode in the NYC bar.
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Ha! I remember when he inferred that Kate was a fine Christian woman with exemplary morals/ethics. He really had the wool pulled over his eyes!
PA Dutch Mom (#4), wonder if Rev. John caught the awesome,
loving lady's retweet about someone thinking she's hot.
"You were shafted" -- is that what the kids are calling it
these days? Okay, I'll take a seat in my time-out spot
(consult your blueprint for all the designated areas).
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Maybe Rev. John thinks she's one hot mama!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Cheer_alicia_09 @Kateplusmy8 Not true...no gift card required. But she does appreciate a self-address/stamped return envelope. :)
Oh, geez. Mouthpiece Milo is speaking for Kate again. Won't she EVER shut up?
carlin @CarlinnAmanda 4m4 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 could you tweet that doggie cake recipe please? I can't find it anywhere!
If you use your bread maker, it will slice the cake for you!
Sheeple are so amusing!
"You were shafted" -- is that what the kids are calling it
these days? Okay, I'll take a seat in my time-out spot
(consult your blueprint for all the designated areas)
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Maybe he was in the room next to Kate and Steve and heard, or felt some, um, good vibrations?.
Move over, I'm on time out with you.
Today's (Sat) Google doodle is for Laura. Ingalls Wilder. Go to google and click on it for more info about her.
If you use your bread maker, it will slice the cake for you! 10
Ha, ha. If Katie had thought of that she could have served Shoka appropriate sized pieces and frozen the rest.
No, it proves that you're too busy playing "gotcha!" to bother to read to find out that this was from SEVERAL YEARS AGO
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Also proves that Robert was not lying and that your princess was, and still is! Did you send her some money back then? Are you pissed or something?
gotcha- nana nana boo boo
reader said...
I would love to take a script of any one of the Jon & Kate episodes, and re-shoot it. I would have a man read Kate's lines..how different people might react.
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They did something similar. Remember the Masches? IIRC, his treatment of his wife did not go over well. But people have difficulty extrapolating that kind of thing. Women still get away with far more than men do when it comes to domestic violence.
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Abso-freaking-lutely! I have said this many many times, the double standard disgusts me. And you'd think that being female myself, and having my brother be the golden child, I'd be a sheeple, you know? See things through tfw's eyes? NO, abuse is abuse is abuse, regardless of gender, age, race, species, family relation, sexual orientation. NOT a hater here, I'm a person calling out someone who is a tyrant, abuser, thief, liar, manipulator, user, cruel, insensitive, diabolical...not enough words in my vocabulary to describe her. tfBBBBBB instead of tfw is what pops in my head immediately when I think of her. That effing bitch
chefsummer #Leh said... 186
Unless Mady is an actress I don't think she was faking in the last episodes.
I saw real anguish during the spilled paint and it's not a coincidence that Kate or producers out that part out.
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I agree. That was not acting and is at least the second time we have seen M really freak out (Pizza Gate). If TLC swiffered this out, we can only imagine the other edited film.
I do believe that there is an agreement with TFW (Yes, that is her name), with the twins in order to continue the circus, but as usual, TFW can not control her anger and over controlling behavior.
http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/music/mc-dj-jon-gosselin-allentown-bally-kate-20150205-story.html
I'm sorry, I have to say wtf?
Jon's kids are handling "celebrity" well? Really? Remind me- which kid was it that walked around covering his face in public?
Has Jon SEEN the horrific chatter that revolved around Mady?
WTF is this man smoking?!
Doing DJ gigs isn't a plan for taking care of 8 kids. Jon needs a real job, with benefits: healthcare, dental, vision, 401K....
This man is staring down 40, and this is his game plan?
Jon loves shiny balls way too much, and being in a party environment is no place for someone with alcoholic and man-whore tendencies.
And how exactly would a 9-5 job interfere with his custody?
Oy vey.
Formerly Duped- so happy to hear that your pup is doing better!
The belling sling works so much better with girls- my little boy kept peeing on his!
Sherry Baby said... 181
If you have done everything you can to deal with your childhood issues and are still struggling to behave in a normal manner, then I see where sympathy might come in. But until she does that, I don't much give her a pass. She is responsible for how she deals with things now.
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But if much of this has to do with narcissism or a personality disorder, is there ever a cure? Could she heal, even with therapy, medication, help dealing with childhood issues that still might exist? I mean, if one is able to overcome whatever is bothering her, doesn't the narcissism still remain, and how do you deal with that? Doesn't that personality disorder really come into play with the parenting/control issues that she has?
I guess my question is...if there are two (or more) things going on with her, such as narcissism and not being able to reconcile something painful from her past, will she ever be able to heal and move on if a narcissist never really changes?
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Narcissism is a tough personality disorder to deal with as the person generally sees things in terms of their "specialness" and do not suffer any dissention well. Childhood trauma can impact a person as well, but it appears how each person deals with it, especially as you get older, and see how it is impacting current and future behavior. Some overcome childhood trauma, as they realize they want a different life than what they experienced, understand it was not their fault, and does not determine who they will be in the future. Some folks realize that their behavior just isn't working, others seek treatment, as they are not able to make the changes by themselves.
But the narcissism is a chronic pattern of behavior that often involves one looking out for themselves, who don't learn from making bad choices over and over again, feel they are better than others, and take criticism poorly, and view those who criticize them as the enemy.
Generally, trauma can be overcome, narcissists often will not see their flaws and therefore never correct them, as it is them against the world. And if someone disagrees with them, they are on the shit list.
The best thing someone can do who has problems getting along with most of the people most of the time, is to seek therapy with a qualified mental health professional to find out why they have such conflict constantly in their lives and stick with it. However, hard core narcissists will view the therapist as "not able to help them" if they are not hearing what they want to hear.
I obviously am not a therapist, so feel free to disagree, but I have worked with people with huge problems for years, and have seen many people make changes when THEY WANTED IT!!
Forgot to add that the Narcissist must want change to get help, but their view that they know better than everyone else often does not allow for that. There are varying degrees with this personality disorder, as with any other mental health diagnosis, but generally it involves the person wanting change, if they realize, that things are not working out well for them.
BTW (by the way), I do hate that TFW (the Former Wife) continues to film these kids with all of the dysfunction going on. It is undeniable, and the kids don't deserve to have this filmed for all of the world to see.
KATE can continue to film solo on CA (Celebrity Apprentice) or whatever, I don't care, but IMO (in my opinion), the kids' general behavior is not good, they are showing wear and tear and they need a break. ( Period ) But TFW will not consider that - all about the $$$$ (dollars).
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I came across this article, (and I use the term loosely) about why LeeAnn Rimes is so hated and has destroyed her own career. I see a lot of parallels with sKate.
http://www.fame10.com/entertainment/7-ways-leann-rimes-destroyed-her-own-career/?utm_source=outbrain&utm_campaign=Outbrain_Fame10_Desktop_CA&utm_medium=cpc
PJ
PJ'S said..........
They did something similar. Remember the Masches? IIRC, his treatment of his wife did not go over well. But people have difficulty extrapolating that kind of thing. Women still get away with far more than men do when it comes to domestic violence.
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I'm not familiar with the Masche family. I had to google the name. Did TLC make money by filming their toddlers?
For business I have traveled with married men, not once did I pack a bikini.
If I try to imagine laying on a blanket in my bikini with (a married man on business) or by a pool it makes me uncomfortable.
Of course she told Jon the marriage was over.
I have been curious as to why LeAnn Rimes is hated for dating a married man whereas Angelina Jolie got a pass with her affair with Pitt.
To take it further, it's also interesting that some have had their careers ruined (or in the process of) for words or actions...Mel Gibson and Bill Cosby come to mind...while Kate Gosselin's baby-beating journal is available for the world to see and yet she continues to skate by.... (perhaps because she's a pseudo-celeb of no real consequence?)
#25 I meant to type "PJ said"
Auto correct requires editing, ready to turn it off!
I do believe that there is an agreement with TFW (Yes, that is her name), with the twins in order to continue the circus, but as usual,
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Oh yes, I am sure there is some serious bargaining going on with the twins, LOL.
We just saw the 'you won't drive until you are 18" dramafest, so I am sure she is telling them this"
"If you want to drive when you are 16, keep filming!!!! I am a single mom of 8 doing it all alone, so if you want to drive you better do what I say!"
and of course, the twins will film. They have to. But just like the cell phones, those cars are going to be serious 'currency', as Kate likes to spout (waving at Dr. Phil). Those cars will sit in the driveway more than they will be driven. The twins think they have Kate where they want her....just wait until those cars (I am being generous thinking each will get their own) arrive, Kate will have even more power.
Whats it like trying to hold down a job with all of the baggage he has courtesy of Kate Krieder. Law suits alone, add to that shunning and parental alienation. I doubt I could function.
Add to that the public kool-aid drinking persona, "deadbeat Dad who cheated on a mother of 8 and left her with a purse full of bills." I imagine he doesn't have A lot of choices.
I see him as a victim of abuse, and abuse filmed and validated by TLC. I also see a man who survived an awful situation but stll navigates a way to have a loving relationship with his children. Great sense of humor, and kind too.
My guess is one day they tire of each other and at that point neither Kate nor Steve will have to admit to the affair.
Thanks Tucker and PJ. We're coming along slowly but it's great to see improvement. You all have been a big help and support for me.Now that my dog is more ambulatory, she is getting to be a handful...and I am very happy about it. :)
Rhymes, yes, I recall that conversation. They upped the amount to 18 inches, oy! Hope you're stocked up on necessities.Would be funny if we bumped into one another! We should develop a secret sign or something.
The whole Kate plus 8 crapfest will eventually implode. It looks as if it's starting to happen. How embarrassing for those kids that their friends see their mom cry poor and complain nonstop about her lot in life...publicly. By now, if guess the kids know that Kate engineered their births so she can get free shit. How low would that make you feel? To know she did that, and that she continues to treat you as if she did that.
KK said to Leah you do this photo shoot and I reward you..I was like WTF my mom never had to say that.
Who know what she promising to buy and is buying the kids especially the twins..Jon was right once again.
When I saw these recent episodes, all I could think of was the old TV show Dallas. Those aireal shots of TFW's country estate, complete with an in-ground pool, certainly depicts a woman of means. While the (fictional) Ewing family made their millions in oil, one has to ask how this mother of 8 has managed such wealth. The contrast between their humble beginnings and the life she has now was so clear from that helicopter hovering overhead. Hum the theme from Dallas, it's a perfect match.
Those kids got her there, and now that country home is their prison. She will keep them bound in a tight unit until she squeezes every last dollar out of them.
By now, if guess the kids know that Kate engineered their births so she can get free shit. How low would that make you feel?
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Not to mention ever single time mom opens her mouth she talking about her tired and over worked overwhelmed. She is cause she has to take care of you and doesn't seem happy.
That must make the kids feel special.
..and thanks to Call Me Crazy ! You were on the previous page!~ My dog is snoozing now after early 6 AM morning trips to the backyard X2. Treacherous and freezing!
And again thought of Shoka outdoors.Brr.
A happy contrast to TFW. This guy gets it.
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/dad-refuses-give-newborn-son-syndrome/story?id=28756025
The "Room Project" episode is on Youtube, complete with the paint meltdown at 13:07. You might find a trip to the dentist more enjoyable. :)
Kate just sucks the fun out of everything. The kids did not want her participating in the pumpkin throwing game. She insisted that she play: "I am smashing pumpkins because I came up with this idea, rest assured." Really! She just oozed anger.
http://pagesix.com/2015/02/06/rosie-odonnell-leaves-the-view-and-her-wife/
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Could there still be a seat on The View for TFW? *Snark!! Seems Rosie P. is on the fence as well.
reader said...31
My guess is one day they tire of each other and at that point neither Kate nor Steve will have to admit to the affair.
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You mean kate won't get shafted anymore?
OH, THE HUMANITY!!!
About the twin cars being currency. She will be so jealous of them getting out and about having a "real life" that the least little miniscule infraction, those cars will be on the currency chopping block.
Also, one thing I liked about the Jon article is Jon said Mady called in and requested a One Direction song and he didn't have it right there, but said, how about Taylor Swift? So he played it for Mady.
I wonder if Mady had to call from the Shawshank phone being heavily monitored by the hovering hello copter parent?
Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZuwZ66vGV4
The Jon I saw on the Tank fish show was he came into a deli and was looking at the menu and someone told him hi and of course asked about the kids. Jon was gracious and kind. He answered about the kids, They are doing great, thanks for asking, with a glow on his face. Started ordering and was nice to the person behind the counter.
kate would never do that!
Oh, why is em tanner wanting kate to be the next bachelorette? Seems strange because kate was so horrible to her. The only good thing about that is it would give the kids a much needed break from the warden.
I agree with the posters that the Jon article will infuriate the fuhrer.
. She insisted that she play: "I am smashing pumpkins because I came up with this idea, rest assured." Really! She just oozed anger.
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Given that it's the stupidest game ever, I have no doubt Kate "masterminded" it.
Here's a game for Kate- let's see how long she can keep her kids off of tv!
Susan1956 said... 38
A happy contrast to TFW. This guy gets it.
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/dad-refuses-give-newborn-son-syndrome/story?id=28756025
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I have to agree with you. The baby is a gem, and the dad knew it. Have a DS brother and my parents and all kids adore him. He reminds all of us of the important things in life, as his heart is so good and pure. He keeps it simple for us..
So anyone who doubts parental alienation on Kate's part, I give you the scene in the kitchen where Cara does not want a hug from Kate. Mady hugs Kate and Kate holds onto Mady repeating, "One for Mady, one for Cara, one for Mady, one for Cara." Mady and Kate both smiling...using the one daughter to get back at the other who is obviously and most likely legitimately upset..
If you refuse me or what I want I will rub your nose in it. Someone should let her know that "Mommie Dearest" was not a "How to" book.
chefsummer #Leh said... 34
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Yes. I mentioned before I thought I spotted Lego boxes as 'rewards' and bigger toys, not just a pack of gum or something. And why didn't Kate make sure Leah liked her dress and have a back up.She claimed Leah agreed but that tantrum says otherwise.
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Kate is always inserting herself into the 'fun things,' like the gym place where she didn't let any kid beat her, the birthday parties, the pumpkin game which none of the kids liked, even in Tweets about the #fun she has with her BFFs the twins. I think not.
Did anyone notice the agonized face she pulled while the kids souvenir shopped in Maine? What was that for? She gave them all $40 and said she let them pick whatever they wanted even if silly things, so what was the issue? (for someone who dislikes stuffed animal, there sure were lot at the yard sale and she encouraged the boys to buy more at that little shop)
I watched Shark Tank last night and a repeat of CA was coming on. I hadn't seen this part in the beginning. It was when they fired I can't remember, but TFW had on the red sleeveless dress and the big gold earrings with her hair tied completely in the back. When she went to the room she was talking and her FACE and her NECK looked awful. She looked bad! Her makeup was too dark. Then she told Vivica come HELL or HIGH water we have to win? or do something.
I noticed when kate and someone came back from being fired, kate made a beeline to SIG!!! WHY? Was that after Shawn was fired, I think? Also, when Sig got mad, and she swooped in like Mother Teresa, to calm him down and diffuse the situation.
Why! WHY! WHY! Doesn't she do that with HER OWN KIDS!!!
It is Lord of the Flies in at house.
Pyscho, man, she is pyscho!!!
Tucker's Mom said... 17
http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/music/mc-dj-jon-gosselin-allentown-bally-kate-20150205-story.html
I'm sorry, I have to say wtf?
Jon's kids are handling "celebrity" well? Really? Remind me- which kid was it that walked around covering his face in public?
Has Jon SEEN the horrific chatter that revolved around Mady?
WTF is this man smoking?!
Doing DJ gigs isn't a plan for taking care of 8 kids. Jon needs a real job, with benefits: healthcare, dental, vision, 401K....
This man is staring down 40, and this is his game plan?
Jon loves shiny balls way too much, and being in a party environment is no place for someone with alcoholic and man-whore tendencies.
And how exactly would a 9-5 job interfere with his custody?
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I totally agree with you. Jon does need to grow up, Kids are not doing great and he has other options other than bars and restaurants at night. The 9-5 excuse for work makes no sense. At close to 40, the party environment needs to end. EOE
How many times is she and TLC going to do the 10yrs thing?
They did in for J&K then K8 and again on K8 don't they have any fresh ideas?
Formerly Duped said... 48
LOL lego's won't work for long.
I bet they will get her for all types of clothes and cars and gadgets.
I'm watching cleaning house on youtube.
Kate says "I love getting rid of stuff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Well DUH. Tell us something we don't know.
reader, here is a story about the Masches.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20429942,00.html
They weren't around long, but I recall grumblings about the way he treated her on the show and it was mild compared to the things sKate did to Jon. I don't know if it was on TLC or not.
I don't think Angelina got a free pass. I didn't follow that story much, but I don't recall Angelina taunting Jennifer Aniston on twitter, getting into arguments with fans, using children to further her agenda, etc. She kept her mouth shut. I don't give her a pass, but she's no where near LeaAnn when it comes to in your face nastiness. Brandi has had to deal with a ton of her crap.
*The only way you'd get a Narcissist into therapy is if they thought they were there to collaborate with the therapist on helping someone else fix their issues. They would see the therapist as their peer, even though they had NO formal training. The Narcissist needs no formal training in anything. They are as good as anyone, no one is superior to them. That explains sKate thinking that Michelle Obama could work with HER on educating America on nutrition and children's issues. It also explains why she's never taken advice about anything whether it be mothering or speaking or writing. She's the expert.
PJ
Why is the basement such a gawd-awful mess while the cupboards of hoarded canned goods and freezers are so neat ? Does TLC send the organizing team to clean up the whole house except the places to be filmed for 'cleaning house?' Hannah said cleaning the basement was not fun as Kate promised it would be, because it was a chore. Seems like they are not used to cleaning regularly, only during filming, "like the pictures." I have a feeling they live in more chaos than Kate would have us believe- then clean it all up to preserve her organinized-ish persona. I also think she has hoarding tendencies.
AuntieAnn said... 53
I'm watching cleaning house on youtube.
Kate says "I love getting rid of stuff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Well DUH. Tell us something we don't know.
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Kate speak: I loved getting rid of Jon and his stuff. It feels good to say, Jon, you're out of here, your gone and not coming back.
Jon's trash. I love it. I love that feeling.
I wonder if Trump knows about kate dissing him on twitter about CA and For Get about it CA and watch her show, with tons o'fun?
I don't know if he posted a tweet about it, but I hope he is saving it for the FINALE! He wants her to show up! hahahaha
. She insisted that she play: "I am smashing pumpkins because I came up with this idea, rest assured." Really! She just oozed anger.
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DH and I were discussing this over breakfast out this morning. I said that I wished that the husband told his wife that he'd agree to the divorce and not contest a damn thing, if she would get a hysterectomy!
The next DS child she has won't be so lucky.
How do people not "get it" in this day and age?
Did anyone notice the agonized face she pulled while the kids souvenir shopped in Maine? What was that for? She gave them all $40 and said she let them pick whatever they wanted even if silly things, so what was the issue? (for someone who dislikes stuffed animal, there sure were lot at the yard sale and she encouraged the boys to buy more at that little shop)
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That is A LOT of money to give a kid in a stupid souvenir store. I'd give $10, tops.
#spoiled
OMG, just watched the painting part on youtube. She gets that excited over a frickin' bird?????? When has she ever gushed like that over one of her kids? She makes me sick.
PJ
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Unfortunately, she applies that to people too. Her siblings, her parents, her children's aunts and uncles and cousins and grandparents, her husband, friends. Anyone who "doesn't know how to help her". And the kids pay the price.
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
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welllll..she wasn't that excited about the results of throwing away the 'family computer'....
LOL
readerlady said... 60
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Unfortunately, she applies that to people too. Her siblings, her parents, her children's aunts and uncles and cousins and grandparents, her husband, friends. Anyone who "doesn't know how to help her". And the kids pay the price.
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Yep. The way she said it, I thought she WAS talking about the people in her life who were no longer 'usable'.
Funny thing about that garage sale, she wanted the kids to get rid of all the little bits and pieces that meant soooo much to them (says Kate in her sarcastic tone). Wasn't she the one who loved makin' memories? Now it's trash and needs to be gone. True to form.
And why get rid of halloween decorations? Aren't those the kind of things most people keep and use annually? She'll just go out and buy more junk now, just like Mady said. That house will be filled up again in no time.
Piecin' and patchin' my rosy butt. She's a shopaholic and a hoarder and she's obviously got money to burn.
The boys seem ok and maybe the girls are better behaved with him.
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Without a doubt. I think the atmosphere is completely different when they're with Jon. No screeching, hand flapping, no arbitrary rules or belittling, etc. I hope they're getting from Jon, all of the nurturing, love, structure, and calm parenting that is absent when they're with Kate.
I don't have Twitter and I still don't get this following obsession. Why would Kate want to follow a teenage stranger? Will she befriend her and read her tweets?
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I LUV it that Kate's following these random fans, especially the teens and the rabid sheeple. She now has to either read, or at least scroll thru, all of their inane tweets (which show up on your profile/homepage when you follow someone). I hope she enjoys reading about the teens' obsessions with One Direction, their math homework, finding a ride to the mall, and who did or didn't receive a smile from which guy. And of course the nonsense that the sheeple tweet to each other and the 'haterz'. She asked for it. lol
redbirdsings said... 44
The Jon I saw on the Tank fish show was he came into a deli and was looking at the menu and someone told him hi and of course asked about the kids.
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What show was Jon on where he went to a deli? I'm drawing a blank. TIA
I am still trying to figure out Twitter. Nine hours ago, more than a hundred BOTS showed up on Kate's TL at the same time. Are these real people paid to follow (each has a photo as an avatar), or are these just something created by Twitter? How do they all show up with exactly the same tweet at the same time? Is there an automated, timed program set up by Twitter (or some other internet system) that sends these tweets simultaneously?
"Oh, why is em tanner wanting kate to be the next bachelorette? Seems strange because kate was so horrible to her. The only good thing about that is it would give the kids a much needed break from the warden."
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Em Tanner? She commented about Kate? The only tweet I saw about the Bachelorette was from the young Emily fan.
https://support.twitter.com/articles/20171399-muting-users-on-twitter
I'm sure sKate gives out these token "follows" on twitter and then promptly mutes them so she doesn't have to bother scrolling past them. I'm betting she's got Milo muted and then unmutes her when she needs her for something. I'm sure she doesn't read 95% of what's on her TL, maybe doesn't read at all unless she wants something.
PJ
"I totally agree with you. Jon does need to grow up, Kids are not doing great and he has other options other than bars and restaurants at night. The 9-5 excuse for work makes no sense. At close to 40, the party environment needs to end. EOE"
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I would think that a 9 to 5 job might interfere with the time spent with the kids, if you consider that there might have been mandatory overtime/hours on weekends, or if he needed to pick up kids from the bus stop at 4 p.m., or be involved in school events during the day or after school, particularly when Kate is off somewhere doing her "celebrity" thing.
He appears to be happy. Let him be happy. If he likes music and this is his thing, why would anyone tell him to find another job, that he shouldn't be in a "party" atmosphere? Some people just aren't comfortable in the suit and tie, structured 9 to 5 work environment. Jon appears to be a relaxed, laid-back kind of guy. So he's looking at 40. Is that mandatory retirement age for a DJ? He has a job and if he's good at what he does, there is money to be made in that position. More importantly, though, is that he's comfortable with his position. Good for him.
Wondering how much of TFW's crap did SHE get rid of??
Looks like she does not get rid of kid's stuff or old stuff until the cameras come around.. And then she is angry with kids while filming, Why can't she do this while not filming? She is home all day long and am not sure what she does unless she has help The only reason she did this was for a free renovation for 4 brand new bedrooms, with renovations, furniture, bedding, etc.. at no expense to her. TLC sucks!!
Remember when she mocked Jon for wanting to hang onto things that belonged to his father? She's evil. The only things of value are things that belong to her. It's another way to show everyone how inferior they are to her. She hoards her crap, but diminishes others by throwing out there insignificant things.
PJ
"He appears to be happy. Let him be happy. If he likes music and this is his thing, why would anyone tell him to find another job, that he shouldn't be in a "party" atmosphere? Some people just aren't comfortable in the suit and tie, structured 9 to 5 work environment. Jon appears to be a relaxed, laid-back kind of guy. So he's looking at 40. Is that mandatory retirement age for a DJ? He has a job and if he's good at what he does, there is money to be made in that position. More importantly, though, is that he's comfortable with his position. Good for him."
Seems like this sort of thing was said about him being a waiter too, and how he was going to make really big tips, etc. How long did that last? Remember he said he was going to invest in the one restaurant? When he was first interviewed about this job, seems like he said something about how he wanted to start up a business training DJs, or something to that affect. This job will last no longer than all of the others before it I am thinking. And I am glad that he seems happy, but I just wish his children seemed happy too.
I'm sure sKate gives out these token "follows" on twitter and then promptly mutes them so she doesn't have to bother scrolling past them. I'm betting she's got Milo muted and then unmutes her when she needs her for something. I'm sure she doesn't read 95% of what's on her TL, maybe doesn't read at all unless she wants something.
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You're right, PJ. It just tickles me to think that she may not know about the mute feature and is having to plow through the nonsense that is tweeted by the fans she's now following.
I saw part of the yard sale episode on YouTube. Oh my gosh, that was so boring. I watched up to Shoka eating his cake, then decided no more. Kate doesn't seem to get pleasure in anything. And Mady..well she shouldn't be filmed at all. And neither should Cara. Actually, neither should any of the kids. It's so sad. The family just doesn't seem happy. Cara not wanting to hug her Mom? What was up with that? And who cares if the books are facing forward? Her chastising Joel (was it Joel?) for not putting the books away properly? Was that really necessary? Maybe he likes his books that way! They were put away. Geez Louise, that was so unnecessary. I felt for the kid.
I just couldn't watch anymore.
The Masches were on WE TV, not TLC.
I watched the Room & Yard Sale Episodes on youtube and I gotta say, Mady, Leah & Hannah would be dropped off at daddy's and left, lol. The boys seem super, super sweet and funny and charming. Alexis too. Poor Cara looks like she's ready to run the first chance she gets. I didn't really believe Kate when she'd tweet about all the shrieking they do, but now I believe it. Seems to be from those 3 especially.
I have to say tho I thought the boys room was really nice! The wainscoting looked great and their secret compartments were neat and they seemed to think that was cool. Looks like a room they could grow into. And Mady's (rose) comforter was beautiful.
He appears to be happy. Let him be happy. If he likes music and this is his thing, why would anyone tell him to find another job, that he shouldn't be in a "party" atmosphere? Some people just aren't comfortable in the suit and tie, structured 9 to 5 work environment. Jon appears to be a relaxed, laid-back kind of guy. So he's looking at 40. Is that mandatory retirement age for a DJ? He has a job and if he's good at what he does, there is money to be made in that position. More importantly, though, is that he's comfortable with his position. Good for him.
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I agree. Jon is listed with a large, premiere entertainment company in the area. He seems to be happy doing something he enjoys and he's earning a living w/o exploiting his kids. He sees his kids and is a loving parent. He's doing what he should be doing. Keep it up, Jon!
Over and Out said...
I don't have Twitter and I still don't get this following obsession. Why would Kate want to follow a teenage stranger? Will she befriend her and read her tweets? Just the idea of being "followed" seems kind of weird (and creepy) to me.
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This comment just gave me an aha! moment as to why Twitter is the perfect medium for TFW---everyone listens (reads) her words, but, except for the small group she follows, she doesn't have to be bothered with hearing what anyone else thinks. It is a one-way relationship--the only kind she seems capable of having.
AuntieAnn (#63), silly, why would TFW save Halloween decorations
when she admitted she's not into Halloween? She got them on
TLC's dime, then sold them and pocketed part of the profit. As
any self-respecting piecing-and-patching mom would do.
Sounds like that yard sale was just your typical family event.
Oh, except for the TV cameras, and goodie bags, and a jumble
of messy items magically turning into an organized one overnight
by the TLC fairy. And the staged exit of a family driving away with
Mommy's bodyguard, then coming back and leaving with their dad.
Maybe he likes his books that way. 74
But it's Katie's way or the highway.
Those poor kids can't do anything that is up to her arbitrary standards.
Seems like Kate tells the kids how fun filming will be and promises 'rewards.' I think none of the kids want to film and during their couch interviews they appear bored and fidgety and even rude to one another/ bordering on disrespectful to the man asking dumb questions
(However the interviews give them a chance to vent about and imitate Mommy lol)
Winsomeness said...
Wouldn't it be better then, to just not say anything at all?
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IMO, yes! Promoting his business and interfering with his kids' privacy do not have to be synonymous. most celebrities manage to do that. Since he is the one who took the high road for the purpose of protecting their privacy, it makes no sense that he continues to answer each and every question. It just perpetuates the idea that the kids' business is everyone's business. If he is spending time with them, then they know the truth--didn't he say once say that? I wish him all the luck with his new career, but he needs to learn to set boundaries around his relationship with TFW, and the kids' privacy. And, as far as how it reflects on him personally, he just sounds like a completely wishy-washy flake who can't make up his mind. Are the kids showing negative effects from filming, or are they better off for it? Depends on the day. if he cares about protecting his kids' privacy, then he should just refuse to answer any questions at all. They have zero relevance to his job right now.
Serial subject Adnan Syed granted appeal by Maryland court:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/serial-subject-adnan-syed-granted-appeal-state-maryland/
TFW has to pay taxes on the renovations that were made to the house. That is considered a gift and is taxable income. That is what happens to the Extreme Homemakeover shows. They spend a ton of money and the taxes make them sell the house.
There was one house in AZ? Desert heat, huge house and their light bill was insane. I would of said, I am not doing the show unless a solar energy package was installed where it will completely knock out my light bill in a couple of years. Forget the big monster fireplace. The tricked out patio. The indoor rock climbing wall.
Thy name is vanity.
Jon was on Tanked on the Animal Planet. The guys that make tricked out fish tanks were at a deli to talk to the owner about a tank job. Jon came in to order food and someone talked to him. I hope he got paid for it.
Thanks for the link. I watched a little, skipped around, and each couch segment was her complaining. Who among you have a roller rack of clothes for your family portraits, plus someone to do the girls' hair and yours, plus your makeup, and have everyone change clothes multiple times......annually? Mere mortals take their kids to Portrait Innovations or something similar and buy reasonable packages. Years ago (before everyone was a 'professional photographer' doing senior photo shoots), I took my nephews there for their senior pictures and they did a good-enough job and we got scads of prints of different poses. We didn't complain at all. But Kate sure did, nonstop! About portraits!
Then I switched to the garage sale episode and it was more of the same. All she does is complain, complain, complain. While I was skipping around, I saw a table set up and paused. She was selling her USED flip flops (and cowboy boots for the kids that she got for free)? Gross! Her old running shoes were there too. WHY? Later, I saw someone holding flip flops and running shoes. I can see using other people's shoes for certain things (shoes that people wear socks with), but not something that goes between your toes and not something that you run miles and miles in. Running shoes are full of bacteria, and I either throw mine away or donate them to an organization that grinds up the soles to make floor or road coverings. I don't even donate them, they are just yucky.
And of course, the snippets I watched were of her complaining. I have never seen anyone complain so much. I watch HGTV when I'm running at the gym, and they had a large family on a 2-part episode this week, renovating a house. They had 3 kids and adopted 2 from Ethiopia. Lots of projects - and they had FUN. Sure, they made a mess, and then they cleaned it up. And nobody complained. In fact, they were all delighted to share their first meal in the the only room that was done, which was the dining room. They didn't care if it was just pizza, they were truly happy to have a table/room big enough to all sit at together. Imagine that.
"Seems like this sort of thing was said about him being a waiter too, and how he was going to make really big tips, etc. How long did that last?"
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Maybe this one won't last either, but that's on him to decide, not us. Sometimes it takes quite a few jobs to find the one that you really want. Not everyone sticks with the same job for years and years. If another opportunity comes along that you think is a good fit for you, you take it. At least he had those jobs and was employed instead of living off his kids, which is more than can be said about his former wife.
This comment just gave me an aha! moment as to why Twitter is the perfect medium for TFW---everyone listens (reads) her words, but, except for the small group she follows, she doesn't have to be bothered with hearing what anyone else thinks. It is a one-way relationship--the only kind she seems capable of having.
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Yes!! Ah-ha moments are great.
You're so right about this, it's the perfect medium for a narcissist. Unlike most mediums twitter makes it surprisingly easy to have a relaitonship only on YOUR terms. The tweeter is in the driver's seat. Few other mediums allow for that sort of control.
Cara not wanting to hug her Mom? What was up with that? 74
From what I've read, Cara wants no part of filming and the hug thing was clearly for the cameras.
Maybe this one won't last either, but that's on him to decide, not us. Sometimes it takes quite a few jobs to find the one that you really want. Not everyone sticks with the same job for years and years
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It's much more common to job hop these days and not frowned upon like it used to be. I know extremely successful professionals who went through 4 or 5 different jobs in a decade and nobody batted an eyelash. The problem is in this day in age with few pensions and raises the only way to give yourself a raise or promotion is to move somewhere else. I have heard that most bosses are quite understanding if someone has decided to leave for more pay or a different promotion opportunity. In fact one of my friends said her boss said that she SHOULD take the new job because she couldn't advance anymore at the company and it wasn't fair to her to insist she stay.
Kate constantly jumps from job to job and yet I've never seen a single sheeple point that out. There is nothing stable about her career. She is at the whim of a network.
Kate's one smart cookie to save up her big projects for TLC filming/funding.
Trip to New England. Check
Bedroom addition and renovations/new furniture. Check
Twins' away-from-home birthday party. Check
"Family" photoshoot. Check
Exhaustive yard sale hauling/set up. Check
I wonder what other property projects she'll need done in 2015? I bet she's always wished that the McMansion had an attached garage. Hmmmm.
I hope she enjoys reading about the teens' obsessions with One Direction, their math homework, finding a ride to the mall, and who did or didn't receive a smile from which guy.
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Why can I imagine that she DOES enjoy this?
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
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welllll..she wasn't that excited about the results of throwing away the 'family computer'....
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haha, good one!
I bet she was panting heavily and deliriously happy when she tossed those boxes, maybe even orgasmic!
I don't know if anyone has read the book Columbine, a non-fiction about the shooting. Very interesting and thorough, I'm reading it on vacation. Yes this is what I chose for light reading on vacation!
Anyway, there is an entire chapter about one psychologist's research of the thousands of documents of evidence from the crime and his conclusion is that Eric was a sociopath. Apparently an entire panel of psychologists agreed with him.. The book goes on to explain what sociopaths are, how they operate, how their childhood works, etc.
It does emphasize that most sociopaths are NOT mass murderers.
In any case I know sociopathy interests many here so I thought I would recommend it. It's in chapter nine. Very well done.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 28m28 minutes ago
@TrippenIn yeah...hmm...whoever knows from one article to the next...bizarre ...
We were wrong. She threw him under the bus.
OT because tfmjg is boring same old.
Lots of fun basketball today. Duke beat Notre Dame by thirty points. University of Virginia plays Louisville at seven on espn.
Everyone in the northeast stay warm! Right now in Nags Head NC, it is beautiful, sunny, about 58, the wind is not bad, lovely winter beach day! We did a last minute trip when the weather forecast was good. A friend came down here last week and made me jellus, so I had to go on a road trip too! Tired of snow? Head south!
Maybe this one won't last either, but that's on him to decide, not us. Sometimes it takes quite a few jobs to find the one that you really want. Not everyone sticks with the same job for years and years
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I think that's easier to swallow because Jennifer Anniston seems so self assured about it, really seems like she has moved on, and is in her own good relationship now and about to get married to a gorgeous man. I never got the sense from her she needed validation form the public to know that was wrong.
With Brandi it feels like she hasn't had her closure yet with it. And, they have kids, which makes it much more complicated. Brad and Jennifer never had kids.
Kate constantly jumps from job to job and yet I've never seen a single sheeple point that out. There is nothing stable about her career. She is at the whim of a network.
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Exactly! She has no stable employment, just hops from job to job, grabbing whatever is offered to her. She was fired from CC, she can't keep her own blog going, and the thing with The Stir didn't work out for her. Did we ever find out what happened there? Was her contract up, or was she fired from that one, too? Sheeple never acknowledge it and pretend that it just didn't happen. It's all Jon's fault, or the employer doing the firing. Kate is perfect, and in their eyes, does no wrong. What a delusional group they are.
I see Milo is back to slamming Jon again, with a hashtag of toxic, complaining and bitter. What an idiot she is, and such a darn hypocrite. She tweets about positivity, not being judgmental, but there she is...right in the thick of things, throwing out those passive-aggressive tweets, kissing Kate's butt.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 11m11 minutes ago
@TrippenIn @Kateplusmy8 Seriously ..no one wants a #ToxicComplainingBitter DJ! LOL He has2clean up his public persona now. #GoodForBusiness
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 25m25 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn Good grief was that ever a "flip flop" fr his last few interviews! Trying2play nice now? We'll take it. #WatchUrBack
Watch your back? What in the world does that mean?
She's right, though. Kate might need to watch her back, but not because of Jon...if she ever ignores or offends these uber fans, there's no telling what might happen, and instead of hiding the bunny, she may need to hide the bird.
Has anyone here ever seen or heard of any reality TV show that has to be swiffered because someone's behavior is so awful?I sure haven't. Kate's treatment of her children is so horrible that TLC had to go back and remove particularly abusive scenes to make K+8 palatable enough for public viewing. What does that tell you? TLC is aware of just how badly Kate treats her kids, and there is so little footage that is not objectionable that they have to include at least some of the abuse just to have enough footage to make a show. And, more importantly (to TLC, that is), this drives up production costs, making it more expensive to produce K+8 than to produce shows that do not include abuse of children. I just can't understand why TLC goes along with this.
One of the sheeple tweeted the link to the article about Jon to Kate. Why did Kate feel she had to comment? Jon didn't talk about her in the article.
Tripp @TrippenIn · 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8
Interesting interview Jon gave today.
http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/music/mc-dj-jon-gosselin-allentown-bally-kate-20150205-story.html …
Lmao
;-)
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 57m57 minutes ago
@TrippenIn yeah...hmm...whoever knows from one article to the next...bizarre ...
What's so bizarre, Kate? That Jon actually has a job that does not involve his kids?
Of course, Milo just had to butt in there with her opinion:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 34m34 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn Good grief was that ever a "flip flop" fr his last few interviews! Trying2play nice now? We'll take it. #WatchUrBack
Then when the sheeple told Kate she thinks the DJ job might be good for Jon, again, there's Milo, butting in.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 28m28 minutes ago
@TrippenIn @Kateplusmy8 Seriously ..no one wants a #ToxicComplainingBitter DJ! LOL He has2clean up his public persona now. #GoodForBusiness
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Admin. interesting comments about Eric being a sociopath. Did the book mention if that is an in-bred trait or is it something learned?
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I don't know if anyone has read the book Columbine, a non-fiction about the shooting. Very interesting and thorough, I'm reading it on vacation. Yes this is what I chose for light reading on vacation!
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I love true crime books..I read In Cold Blood last vacation
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 28m28 minutes ago
@TrippenIn yeah...hmm...whoever knows from one article to the next...bizarre ...
We were wrong. She threw him under the bus.
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She is such a bitch. If she doesn't "want a relationship" with him, whatever (although I don't see how she thinks that makes her look good), but you don't badmouth your kids father in front of them. And I'm pretty sure doing it on Twitter counts as in front of them.
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Admin. interesting comments about Eric being a sociopath. Did the book mention if that is an in-bred trait or is it something learned?
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They addressed just that. They said that they believe it is a combination. They said you are born to be predisposed to sociopathy, and that some trigging event or upbringing can bring it out.
They actually talk about interview studies with real sociopaths and that this one bank robber said that it would confuse him when he would rob a bank and people would start crying or throwing up or getting upset. He didn't understand it, as he didn't find the situation upsetting himself. They pointed to that as an extreme lack of empathy, a total inability to understand someone feeling emotions.
I'm afraid I sometimes mix up Eric and Dylan so forgive me for that, but Eric was the ringleader and more confident and Dylan more the follower. Both of their upbringings were fairly normal, no obvious red flags. One of them had a rather strict father, but nothing abusive. At least one of the families bent over backwards to get their son therapy and other help before it happened.
Eric I believe they said had all of the signs of sociopathy except one, which was abusing animals.
The book dispels a lot of myths, including that Casey Burnal never said anything about believing in God when she was shot. Several girls who were right with her said she didn't say anything at all. The girl was made a martyr over something that never happened and the investigators hated to tell her parents the story wasn't true.
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I'm watching cleaning house on youtube.
It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back.
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If and when the kids want to leave the compound I how she still feels this way.
He said nothing negative about her in that interview and he was complimentary and supportive of the children, which she should take as a reflection on her.
It's one thing to play tit for tat but to make a snide slam at him when he's being NICE is just sociopathic.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 34m34 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn Good grief was that ever a "flip flop" fr his last few interviews! Trying2play nice now? We'll take it. #WatchUrBack
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I see Milo really DOES have a little bit of bitch in her.
I love true crime books..I read In Cold Blood last vacation
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Yes I know so do I. I think you will find this one very interesting then.
When I read true crime books I like extreme detail. This book does that. Not only does it go through what happened minute by minute but it also spends a great deal of time examining the shooters' entire upbringing as well as what psychologists have to say.
It also dispels some common misunderstandings but in a way that is always respectful to the victims.
Its thoroughness very much appealed to me. There was so much it talked about I either never knew or completely forgot about, like how many of the students ran to a nearby neighborhood and that some people opened up their homes to 50 or 60 students until it was safe.
Milo is tweeting with glee all the while bashing Jon.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 13m13 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn Jon changes his mind like a weather vane...whichever way public opinion blows there he goes.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Clearly his bitter #TrashMyEx approach did not work. Kate is succeeding...people R seeing her N good light! :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 7m7 minutes ago
So U critics of @kateplusmy8 Ur #SaintJon has flipflopped on U again. Now he says he has no regrets abt kids being filmed. Says it all good!
Funny how when Jon has something positive to say she believes him, but when he says something negative, she thinks he's lying through his teeth.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Clearly his bitter #TrashMyEx approach did not work. Kate is succeeding...people R seeing her N good light! :)
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But Kate calling him Bizarre isn't being a bitter critic?
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I love true crime books..I read In Cold Blood last vacation
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Yes I know so do I. I think you will find this one very interesting then.
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I'll have to put in on my list, thanks! I have read that Eric seemed to be the sociopath who manipulated Dylan.
Hey, I just went to google something and Laura Ingalls is the Google Doodle! It's her birthday!!
https://www.google.com/#q=Laura+Ingalls+Wilder&oi=ddle&ct=laura-ingalls-wilders-148th-birthday-6591517888086016&hl=en
We were wrong. She threw him under the bus. 104
She will ALWAYS find a way to do that. As has been mentioned, she is not ver smart, but she's got cunning and conniving down to a science.
She must be over the moon...begging for her big chance on The View, LOL. Fine. Stop the filming.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 12m12 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Clearly his bitter #TrashMyEx approach did not work. Kate is succeeding...people R seeing her N good light! :)
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But Kate calling him Bizarre isn't being a bitter critic?
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What is the most bizarre is that Milo and the Sheep can't see that Kate is the one who has trashed Jon whenever she gets the chance. She just did it, for heaven's sake!
How could anyone be that dense? Granted, they are sheeple, but still you would expect that just one among them could open their eyes for just a minute.
I see Milo really DOES have a little bit of bitch in her.
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A LITTLE bit? It seems that Milo is a royal bitch. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Every so often she shows her true colors. I wouldn't trust that one as far as I could throw her. Under all the kindness, peace, love and joy is a very nasty woman (or man) who would turn on you in a heartbeat.
I love true crime books.
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Our Guys by Bernard Lefkowitz is a good long one...about the Glen Ridge gang rape of a teenage mentally challenged girl and how their being athletes made them 'less guilty' in the eyes of their community
God Kate and Milo are so stupid.
If I were them and Jon said yes filming is good for the kids I'd capitalize on that and run with it.
-(I'm sure at 1 point she will since Milo reads here I bet his/hers tweets will change)
Kate read the article. When she saw the tweets, she either should have kept her mouth shut, or made one simple tweet like, "He seems to enjoy this new job, and I hope everything works out for him." The end. Period. No more comments.
I just don't understand why she just can't figure out the appropriate thing to do or say in these circumstances. I don't think it's ignorance or stupidity, so what is it? Or is she just mean and spiteful and doesn't give a rat's rear end that she comes across as being a bitter ex-wife?
Or is it immaturity? It almost seems that her behavior is like that of a middle school mean girl. It's that mentality that she puts forth and simply can't seem to grow up.
At least Jon is working. TFW recently revealed her career plans --
something about waiting to see what happens next, and looking
for something "comfortable." According to the fans, Jon doesn't
contribute a red cent to raising the kids. So how come the person
who has 9 mouths to feed gets off so easy? Shouldn't she at
least grab some part-time nursing gig -- maybe even working
from home -- to pad her bank account between these TV gigs?
I love true crime books.
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Our Guys by Bernard Lefkowitz is a good long one...about the Glen Ridge gang rape of a teenage mentally challenged girl and how their being athletes made them 'less guilty' in the eyes of their community
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I actually went to Kindergarten in Glen Ridge but that was back in the 70s. The gang rape story was horrific
It does not matter what Jon says. It does not matter what Jon does for a living. I truly believe that the only thing that would make Kate and her die-hard sheeple happy is if he were dead. Not a single one cares if the children want a father in their lives.
In some ways, I could understand if Kate is bitter. She has her idea of how the marriage went. But the sheeple being so bitter-I just can't comprehend. They have true hatred for Jon even though they've never met him and have no idea about the parts of the marriage that went on behind closed doors. Hatred.
Admin, I read Columbine years ago and had the same thoughts. Parts of it were chilling. And as you point out, most sociopaths just fly under the radar.
Isn't Columbine the book where they brought up the fact that a few of the families said they were manipulated, i.e., the girl who supposedly died for her faith? What the media reported was very distorted and simply didn't happen. It's been a while so my memory was fuzzy, but I thought that rewriting of history was interesting indeed. I think her parents even wrote a book about it - knowing it wasn't true. Or something like that....
You may also like Under the Banner of Heaven, another non-fiction about murder in a polygamist community. I think it's written by Jon Krakauer.
You know, 5 years ago, I think TFW might actually have had a shot
at a spot on The View. Not the strongest contender, but she could've
been in the top 10 of choices. But now I think she's perceived as
more of a "character" than a real person. Or even worse, a
caricature.
Imagine her on The View now trying to intelligently discuss current events "Well, I only read the headline, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about. You know, I'm the busy mom of 8. But let
me know when the American Idol discussion comes up, because
I never miss a minute of that!"
Local, what a coincidence! That story really made my blood boil apart from the magnitude of the crime.
Have you read any books on the Paul Bernardo/Karla Homolka crimes? That was in my old stomping ground, and also horrific events. Invisible Darkness was a good book about the schoolgirl murders and Scarborough rapist. I remember my mother telling me not to wait inside bus shelters at that time because that was a place PB often found his victims.
All the experts said unequivocally Dylan did NOT fit the criteria for a sociopath, just Eric. Rather Dylan he was deeply depressed. They found him difficult to figure out because depressed people usually hurt themselves not others. While they hold him accountable yes they do think Dylan was manipulated by Eric.
Yes that is the one about Casey Burnall in which her story took off about proclaiming her faith when the truth was several witnesses said he just shot her right away before she had a chance to say a word. There was actually ANOTHEr girl who SURVIVED who had a similar story to Casey's but in her case he asked her after he shot her if she still believed and she said yes. But her story did not take off but speculation is her story somehow got morphed into Casey's. Stephen Curtis Chapman even wrote an extremely successful song about it called This is Your Time I think.
Basically they have AUDIO TAPES from Casey being shot that prove she didn't say anything because a student was on the phone with 911 and it recorded her death. The authorities realized this some time after and they felt obligated to tell her parents the truth. But they told them it very, very gently and they said you should still write her book because she was still a Christian. Casey wasn't the perfect Christian girl as portrayed. She actually had a lot of issues and her parents really struggled with her at times, she was even suicidal at one point, and if I'm not mistaken they had to switch her schools or something. She was troubled, not an angel.
Really sad how her story got twisted around.
Kate read the article. When she saw the tweets, she either should have kept her mouth shut, or made one simple tweet like, "He seems to enjoy this new job, and I hope everything works out for him." The end. Period. No more comments.
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That's what a mature woman would do, like say Jennifer Anniston. Kate however is 14 years old.
I think I read In Cold Blood in high school but didn't remember much about it. I read it again this past year and found it really interesting but disturbing. I watched the Capote movie as well.
I am looking forward to the Harper Lee sequel.
Yes I read a few about Bernardo/Homolka! Crazy! I also read the one by the woma who tracked Her down on an island where she lives with her husband (the brother of her attorney) and kids
uh, FlimsyFlamsy, don't speak too soon (insert sarcasm icon here). Kate IS working!!!! She tells us about it in her tweet today. Seems she is busy "working" (on a Saturday afternoon, of course, when the kids are home) and Alexis brings her a snack. Kate tips her $1, and A starts singing the CA theme song. So many lies in 140 characters, starting with the fact that CA does not HAVE a theme song.
I was just going to ask what *is* CA's theme song? I don't recall hearing one.
Trump's next tweet: #dumbass
CA has a *theme* song. It uses "For the Love of Money" by the O'Jays. From the early 70's. It is the opening of that song that is heard - "Money, money money money money" repeated 5 or 6 times
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I was just going to ask what *is* CA's theme song? I don't recall hearing one.
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The song "For the Love of Money" by the O'Jays, from 1973, is the song that is played at the opening of the show. So I guess you could consider that the CA theme song, even though it wasn't written specifically for the show.
I remember reading somewhere that Donald Trump was upset that H&R Block uses the same song in their current commercials.
Say what you will about Jon, but at least he does not wait for TLC to come filming before he does activities with his kids.
That's what a mature woman would do, like say Jennifer Anniston. Kate however is 14 years old.
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Yes, but why can we see this, but Kate and the sheep can't figure this out? Are they all 14 years old and/or intellectually-challenged to the point where all of this escapes them? It's not rocket science, nor does it require a master's in English. It's a simple tweet, but shows so much class and maturity.
Sometimes you just want to put your fist through the wall when you read come of the idiotic stuff they come up with. The sad thing is that they don't know that they haven't yet gotten past the sixth grade.
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That's what a mature woman would do, like say Jennifer Anniston. Kate however is 14 years old.
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Wow your estimation was a couple of years ahead of mine. What a bitter wretch, I have a feeling the Krieders enjoy, even savor the separation from this vile human.
Talk about playing gothcha!...Milo sure loves to play that game with Jon, doesn't she.
She takes such pleasure when things aren't going right for him, and works hard to dismiss and demean anything he does right, denigrating him at every opportunity. Hard to fathom why she's so obsessed with Jon.
Sure would like to know someday if he/she is TFW, Steve, a paid shill, or truly some nutcase.
I love true crime books.
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Our Guys by Bernard Lefkowitz is a good long one...about the Glen Ridge gang rape of a teenage mentally challenged girl and how their being athletes made them 'less guilty' in the eyes of their community
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I actually went to Kindergarten in Glen Ridge but that was back in the 70s. The gang rape story was horrific
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Ok, this blog is proving what a small world we live in. I grew up in Glen Ridge and graduated in 1981 with the female police detective who broke the case. BTW, another GRHS alumni is a NJ state senator and will most likely be our next governor or senator (Mike Doherty) so you read it here first.
Admin, thanks for the recommendation on the book "Columbine." I have been debating whether or not to read this for several years now.
A LITTLE bit? It seems that Milo is a royal bitch. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Every so often she shows her true colors. I wouldn't trust that one as far as I could throw her. Under all the kindness, peace, love and joy is a very nasty woman (or man) who would turn on you in a heartbeat.
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Amen. Exactly. In addition to being very creepy, she exudes a persona of a vindictive character. There was a reason that the neighbors or family members or whatever they were packed up in the middle of the night and fled without a word to her. Something is very "off" there, and while we may never know exactly who or what she is, if I were Kate, I really would #watchmyback.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 He has so many glowing positive things 2say abt filming now..maybe he wants U 2warm up 2idea of co-parent filming w/him again?
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Um, what? SHE is the one who refuses to coparent. AND WTF does coparenting and filming have to do with one another?
As Jon comes to peace with things and grows happier, Kate becomes more manic and bitter. (she wishes him well) I am smiling knowing how unhappy she is this weekend. Maybe I'll drive by and listen for smashing sconces!
With filming at an end, or a halt perhaps Kate will take a break and be nice to the children....ah who am I kidding?!
Soon it will be time for photos of broken things around the house. By now there must be another towel rack in need of fixing....
I am certain half of her tweets are for Stevie to show how much in need she is....................of having things.........FIXED.
Something that would be really fun to watch would be CWS between the original octo mom (TFW) and the copycat one.
None of this nonsense of sending TFW to a household with a single child, cook, housekeeper, nanny.
Let's send her where she's ''comfortable", with 8 kids. Let's see her do the single mom of 8 kids act. After all, she's a pro at it. Snark.
This could be win, win. The kids are going to be filmed anyway, TFW gets her face on teevee, and the copycat octo mom gets some much needed dollars.
It would be pretty funny watching TFW cook for all those kids, with no craft services. Watch her wrinkle her nose at the living arrangements. See all of her facial expressions at actually having to do some work.
This could be Twist of Kate with a twist.
I am certain now that Milo's feelings for Kate are off the chart weird. Honestly I felt bad for her in the past. I do think she is a female and started as just another fan. I honestly do. But she has become obsessed and oddly attracted, well more like attached to Kate. Anyone who dare speak against her queen, Milo goes warp speed from southern pecan pie philosophy into down right NASTY! And anyone of Kate's stage friends who appear on twitter, Milo pecks at until even us "haters" feel embarrassed. Really really odd.
I don't think she's gay. I think she's just down right, well obsessed to the point of being unstable.
Jon has moved on.
Kate even with recent success, chooses to remain clinging to disappointment, I think from long before she knew Jon.
RonnieandMaggie said... 138
I love true crime books.
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Our Guys by Bernard Lefkowitz is a good long one...about the Glen Ridge gang rape of a teenage mentally challenged girl and how their being athletes made them 'less guilty' in the eyes of their community
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I actually went to Kindergarten in Glen Ridge but that was back in the 70s. The gang rape story was horrific
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Ok, this blog is proving what a small world we live in. I grew up in Glen Ridge and graduated in 1981 with the female police detective who broke the case. BTW, another GRHS alumni is a NJ state senator and will most likely be our next governor or senator (Mike Doherty) so you read it here first.
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Really? I wish I remembered the name of the elementary school. We lived across the street from it. My dad was air force so we moved around a lot. We were in Texas before that year when he went to Thailand on TDY and we moved to NJ to be close to my parents' families. Anyway, being the 70s, I crossed the street by myself and one day a police officer reprimanded me for not going all the way down to the corner to cross at the light. Sigh. Anyway, the school is now (or was several years ago) a bank.
Oh, we moved to Ohio for my first grade year.
My mother once said, "Don't use the bruises on your ego, the scars on your heart to navigate this life. It leads to a lifetime of misery."
reader said... 143
I meant to say anyone of Kate's "staged" friends on twitter, not stage.
Localyocal: The elementary school where you went to kindergarten was Central Avenue School. There were 3 elementary schools in Glen Ridge in the 1970s (I went to Linden Ave. on the south end of town). Yes, it was turned into a bank due to low enrollment at the time. Glen Ridge was kicking itself in the 1990s for doing that because the GR public school system is one of the best in NJ and young families move in in droves in order for their kids to get a great public education.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 He has so many glowing positive things 2say abt filming now..maybe he wants U 2warm up 2idea of co-parent filming w/him again?
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Ah Milo you didn't disappoint me I knew you'd do this and I know you'd take my tweet as bait to her your queen.
#predictable
reader said, "I don't think she's gay. I think she's just down right, well obsessed to the point of being unstable."
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She could be bi, couldn't she? I mean, why is she attached to Kate? Out of all the celebrities with whom to become obsessed, how did she happen to pick Kate? She probably needed someone desperately when something in her own life went bad, but there are so many attractive male celebrities out there. Why Kate?
Look at Uber Uggs. Yes, she likes female celebrities, but most of her attention is focused on African American male comedy performers. I mean, that woman is so hot to trot that I can't imagine her friends aren't embarrassed by her...
@michaelstrahan hey if taking volunteers to try out Kelly's dating tips #MeMeMe lol #AgirlCanDream #YouWontBeSingleLong you are such a catch
Back to Milo.I agree with reader. Gladys is unstable, and she (or he or it) scares me, especially after watching the Selena movie this afternoon.
Susie (151): "Back to Milo.I agree with reader. Gladys is unstable, and she (or he or it) scares me, especially after watching the Selena movie this afternoon."
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What is really disturbing is that I think Milo really does believe that she is part of Kate's life, on a very personal level. In fact, when you look at some of her tweets, it seems that she thinks that she IS Kate. Notice how many times she uses "we."
I suspect that there's no going back for her, and this could get very worse. For Kate's sake, she really should distance herself from this. She has morphed from this "supportive" fan into something that just isn't normal no matter which way you look at it.
RonnieandMaggie said... 149
Localyocal: The elementary school where you went to kindergarten was Central Avenue School. There were 3 elementary schools in Glen Ridge in the 1970s (I went to Linden Ave. on the south end of town). Yes, it was turned into a bank due to low enrollment at the time. Glen Ridge was kicking itself in the 1990s for doing that because the GR public school system is one of the best in NJ and young families move in in droves in order for their kids to get a great public education.
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Thanks! I wanted t ask my mom but sadly she lost her youngest brother suddenly today
Localyocal - I'm sorry to hear about your loss.
Localyocal...tough for your mom to lose her brother. So sorry.....
(Leslie)
Better Call Saul is starting tonight. Also on Monday night there will be another new episode. For those who watch CA, you can see CA on the NBC website the next day.
Better Call Saul is the lawyer from the super hit Breaking Bad. It startes six years before BB. The reviews have all been great. For those who have not seen BB, it was a super great show. Many have said that it was one of the best TV has ever seen. It won numerous emmys. And it does not matter if you have not seen BB before. You don't have to watch Better Call Saul. It will have the same writers, producers, etc. as BB. So it should be a great show.
Does Kate seriously expect people to feel sorry for her because she's facing the consequences of the choices SHE made and continues to make?
I feel sorry for the KIDS because of the horrible way she treats them. All she does is yell, threaten, lecture and complain - no wonder the kids are so unhappy. I don't blame them all for already talking about wanting to move out as soon as they're old enough. And when that time comes, I wouldn't be surprised if some or even all of them move as far away from Kate as possible and cutting her out of their lives completely.
And as for her expecting them to be grateful for what she does for them - it should be the other way around. SHE should be thanking THEM because if it weren't for them, she'd be a NOBODY!
Um, what? SHE is the one who refuses to coparent. AND WTF does coparenting and filming have to do with one another?
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That's so typical. Hey Gladys? "Co-parenting" does not mean one stubborn, immature, hellbent, money-hungry parent tries to get their way with their kids until the other parent finally caves and gives in because it's just not worth it anymore. I'm sad for you that's how you define such a thing.
Sending condolences your way, to you and your mom localyokal:)
Condolences on the loss of your uncle Localyocul. GR was a great place to grow up. I live in N. NJ and still get together with my GR friends and consider them my oldest and dearest.
I would like to add recommending a book that was written on the crime spree of Alvin and Judith Neelly in the early 80's. Alvin was 26 years old and met up with Judith Ann Adams when she was 15 years old and they eloped in 1980.
They became the hillbilly version of Bonnie and Clyde. They were known as Boney and Claude. They were a 2 person wrecking crew leaving death and destruction everywhere they went. I did a huge paper on them for my criminal justice class and I knew the major crime that they committed, but I didn't realize how they destroyed so many lives, damaged property, hurting and killing people.
I decided to look them up last night because of all of the crimes everyone was talking about here. I came across a book called
Early Graves by Thomas Cook. It has good reviews on Amazon. I don't know when it was written but I saw that you can get a used one starting at 1 cent.
I remember on the local news that for the first day of Judith's trial, the talk all around town was that her law team took her to the most expensive place to get her fixed up. I saw on tv walking in handcuffs with her hair rolled up like Farrah Fawcett.
It was so sickening to see her all dressed up knowing she had kidnapped 13 yr. old Lisa Ann Millican and what she and her husband did to her. Plus Judith was birthing babies all through this!
On February 28, 2008, the Neelleys' case was profiled on the Investigation Discovery program Most Evil. On a scale developed by forensic psychiatrist Michael Stone, Judith was ranked as a category 22 killer, the "most evil" level deemed for serial torture murderers.
I haven't seen this show, but I am going to look it up and watch it.
Tizzie said... 157
Does Kate seriously expect people to feel sorry for her because she's facing the consequences of the choices SHE made and continues to make?
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Um she wants people to feel sorry for her cause she sooo tired and the kids are now standing up for themselves.
I hope the kids keep on standing-up for themselves.
Local: Sad news. Please accept my condolences too.
I am so sorry localyocal. Someone very close to me just got out of the hospital after a major health crisis this week.
I couldn't believe it when Kate said she tipped Alexis for bringing her a snack..who does that sort of thing? My sons and daughter-in-laws are always doing things for me, and I in turn baby sit for them on occasion. No money is ever involved..family members just do thing for each other..who would ever think they needed to be tipped or paid, especially when they are children?
The childrens father's job, life was mediocre in Kate's eyes and she took to the media to say so. I guess she felt it was something the world needed to know. Now apparently he is bizarre. I'm confused, are all DJs bizarre? Or is giving a positive interview and saying good things about your children, is that whats bizarre?
The above was snark, please don't feel the need to explain the comment of the 40 year old bitterly divorced, unemployed, former wife from rural central Pa. Hey what kind of Acronym would that be!
Another new word to describe Kate talk, "equivocate."
In Kate's bent mind, if you're going to disappoint her and not be capable of millions, then as a husband who has just been told the marriage is over you had better be able to lie to the cameras on the "realist reality show ever" and pretend you still worship your wretched. ..oops I meant wife.
Last thing, like others here I'm afraid the kids are doomed and filming, albeit sporadic, will continue until something goes horribly wrong.
They really are a modern sideshow act.
Localyocal, my condolences.
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Winsomeness said...
Wouldn't it be better then, to just not say anything at all?
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IMO, yes! Promoting his business and interfering with his kids' privacy do not have to be synonymous. most celebrities manage to do that. Since he is the one who took the high road for the purpose of protecting their privacy, it makes no sense that he continues to answer each and every question. It just perpetuates the idea that the kids' business is everyone's business. If he is spending time with them, then they know the truth--didn't he say once say that? I wish him all the luck with his new career, but he needs to learn to set boundaries around his relationship with TFW, and the kids' privacy. And, as far as how it reflects on him personally, he just sounds like a completely wishy-washy flake who can't make up his mind. Are the kids showing negative effects from filming, or are they better off for it? Depends on the day. if he cares about protecting his kids' privacy, then he should just refuse to answer any questions at all. They have zero relevance to his job right now.
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Well said, and the section involving the kids enjoying filming never needed to be said, as at least 4-6 of the kids were NOT enjoying filming at all! Ex Nurse said... 81
Winsomeness said...
Wouldn't it be better then, to just not say anything at all?
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IMO, yes! Promoting his business and interfering with his kids' privacy do not have to be synonymous. most celebrities manage to do that. Since he is the one who took the high road for the purpose of protecting their privacy, it makes no sense that he continues to answer each and every question. It just perpetuates the idea that the kids' business is everyone's business. If he is spending time with them, then they know the truth--didn't he say once say that? I wish him all the luck with his new career, but he needs to learn to set boundaries around his relationship with TFW, and the kids' privacy. And, as far as how it reflects on him personally, he just sounds like a completely wishy-washy flake who can't make up his mind. Are the kids showing negative effects from filming, or are they better off for it? Depends on the day. if he cares about protecting his kids' privacy, then he should just refuse to answer any questions at all. They have zero relevance to his job right now.
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Gosselin says he watches his children on TV and says the children, now 10 and 13, assert their independence now on the show.
"They're doing really well,' he says. "I think they are more well rounded because of it and they all handle celebrity really well."
Filming. Really? I saw the opposite with at least 4-5 not comfortable with filming.
And a further quote from Jon-
"However he says it was hard being "ridiculed" in his own hometown during the couple's very public divorce."
"There is no privacy," he says.
Hello! Your kids have no privacy or protection against filming!
http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/music/mc-dj-jon-gosselin-allentown-bally-kate-20150205-story.html
Localyocal- So sorry to hear about the death in your family. Sincere condolences.
http://mysteriouspress.com/products/true-crime/early-graves-by-thomas-h-cook.asp
Alvin and Judith Neelley.
I think Milo's comment means that she feels that Jon is reaching out and wants another show with TFW that will show them co-parenting. Jon & Kate Co-Parent 8. It seems to be her way of saying that she thinks Jon is as much of a fame whore as TFW.
I'm looking forward to Better Call Saul AND the return of The Walking Dead Tonight. If Better Call Saul and CA conflict I'll just TiVo one and watch the other on Monday night.
Localyocul, sincere condolences to you and your family.
TFW has been so vocal about providing organic food for her kids,
as another "aren't I a great mom" feather in her cap. Does she
not realize the rancor she still has for their father can not only
damage their psyches, but can be detrimental to their physical
well being, too? The stress this introduces into their lives
can lead to myriad health problems. You'd think a nurse
would realize that.
Calling your ex's behavior "bizarre" on a public forum like Twitter is
not a step towards co-parenting. It is the behavior of an arrested adolescent. Just my opinion, of course.
Milo- Wow- so twisted! Some of us don't think these kids should be continue to be filmed, but your girl Kate is the one who insisted on filming, in spite of the wear and teat on her kids. Jon did not agree with this for years.
Although I did not agree with Jon's recent statement, TFW (it is HER show) solely insists that these kids continue to film as much as possible, in spite of the fact that so many of these kids have checked out. NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF!
I loved watching Bryan Cranston on Malcolm in the middle he was all some as WW on breaking bad.
Prayers for you and your family localyokal.
Hi Milo- Let's be clear. Several of these kids are showing signs of not wanting to film and Kate (your BFF) controls requiring filming of the 8. So please stop acting like it's a "happy" event for all of the kids. At least half have checked out on filming, so I don't think this is anything to be proud of. Your Tweets are simply not supporting the obvious best interest of the KIDS, but do what you must.
I don't twitter, but know that you read here.
Winsomeone said... 165
.who does that sort of thing?
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The same woman who said on national TV that she'd reward her daughter to wear a dress so she could get her photo shoot.
NJGal51 said... 170
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I'm with you. Will be watching CA, as I always have.
Sunday Morning, photographer, musician Henry Diltz...oh, the sweet music! Love his work. Love the memories.
Album art, another nearly extinct very creative niche profession.
I bet Milo even going to start tweeting how Jon might miss his ex-wife and he wants her back.
#truelove #tryagain4the8 #rekindle
The kids appear to either resent Kate ('bout time!) or be cowed into submission (those sweet boys). What do you think happens when those boys can physically outmaneuver her? Will they still shrink away for their many non-transgressions? Or will at least one of them lean into her instead of away from her and let her know that this shit WILL stop now. I hope one of them finally does this; they've been abused for far too long.
I'm looking forward to Better Call Saul AND the return of The Walking Dead Tonight. If Better Call Saul and CA conflict I'll just TiVo one and watch the other on Monday night.
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Same here.
And when the fans jump to insult the father of 8 children, they really
out themselves as supporters of TFW and only TFW. I believe they
sincerely wish Jon ill, and I don't think they give a rat's butt about
those kids. Who could've watched all those seasons of J&K+8,
and saw the love and tenderness those kids had for their daddy,
and vice versa, and then years later are gleefully waiting for him
to end up in the gutter? Is there a moment's thought to how that
might devestate his children?
FlimsyFlamsy said...
Calling your ex's behavior "bizarre" on a public forum like Twitter is
not a step towards co-parenting. It is the behavior of an arrested adolescent. Just my opinion, of course.
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Your opinion is widely shared! Without a doubt Kate Krieder is guilty of parental alienation. She isn't capable of empathy or sympathy, certainly lacking in any kind of understanding that Jon is not simply her ex, HE IS Cara's Dad, Collin's Dad, Dad to all 8. When you tear down a child's parent, you are condemning a little bit of them too.
readerlady said... 60
"I love getting rid of stiff. It feels good to say you're out of here you're gone you're not coming back. Trash. I love it. I love that feeling."
Unfortunately, she applies that to people too. Her siblings, her parents, her children's aunts and uncles and cousins and grandparents, her husband, friends. Anyone who "doesn't know how to help her". And the kids pay the price.
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Great post! I am from a huge family and all of my relatives helped and shaped who I am today. It takes a village, not a circus freak show, for kids to feel good about themselves.
Redbirdsings - If you're interested in true crime you should check out the murderpedia site. Interesting stuff.
http://murderpedia.org/male.A/index.A.htm
I wish I knew some cool single woman, who would be a great partner to Jon, ready to don the suit of emotional armor needed in any kind of relationship with that viscous 40 year old, unemployed, bitterly divorced, former wife.
Its obvious Jon has a lot of love to give, and deserves the special kindness only a partner
can share.
Tizzie said... 157
Does Kate seriously expect people to feel sorry for her because she's facing the consequences of the choices SHE made and continues to make?
I feel sorry for the KIDS because of the horrible way she treats them. All she does is yell, threaten, lecture and complain - no wonder the kids are so unhappy. I don't blame them all for already talking about wanting to move out as soon as they're old enough. And when that time comes, I wouldn't be surprised if some or even all of them move as far away from Kate as possible and cutting her out of their lives completely.
And as for her expecting them to be grateful for what she does for them - it should be the other way around. SHE should be thanking THEM because if it weren't for them, she'd be a NOBODY!
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Great post and welcome! Nice to have new posters.
Thanks guys. Yes, he was my favorite uncle..my mom's baby brother of 9 countem 9 kids. I've never lost anyone suddenly like this and it's just so shocking. He was only in his early 60s. Which seems younger and younger as the years go by
At age 10 the thought of moving out of my home never even entered my head. I'm guessing that they've heard TFW say "if you don't like the way I run things you can move out". How else would a child ever even have such a thought.
PA has some pretty strict rules for teen drivers getting a license.
http://www.dmv.org/pa-pennsylvania/teen-drivers.php#Age-Requirements
The kids appear to either resent Kate ('bout time!) or be cowed into submission (those sweet boys). What do you think happens when those boys can physically outmaneuver her? Will they still shrink away for their many non-transgressions? Or will at least one of them lean into her instead of away from her and let her know that this shit WILL stop now. I hope one of them finally does this; they've been abused for far too long.
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I "honestly" believe those girls will be the ones to start fighting back, physically and verbally. Tfw's is setting the stage. One thing about her abuse on the boys is she is consistent. They know their place as we can all see. They may rebel, but I have a feeling it will be hidden from their warden. All they want is a loving mom. even when being coerced into saying something negative by the interviewer, they give out a fraction of the badmouthing those girls give.
With the girls, she's been giving them mixed messages from the beginning. They get rewarded for the same behavior that the boys get punished . (Cupcakes?) She wants the girls (minus one of them) to be her BBFone minute, ignores them the next. Bffs on HER terms, cuz when she's in a mood, she's in a mood! She
let's some things slide, let's them walk all over her until, I'm sure, she blows a gasket and
unleashes hell. There will be some very very disturbing behavior I'm predicting. The boys may just all grown up to be the Golden children
Localyocal - I am so sorry for your loss.
Well, I disagree a little that the kids shouldn't be grateful . Yes, it's because of them that the family has money, the means to pay for private school, the house and all other wordly goods.Kate should be grateful to them, but she's only happy her scheme for fame and fortune worked. Now she has the eight growing children to contend with and she knows she's outnumbered, I know they have suffered terribly-that's what drew me to this blog. But I do feel their personalities (some of them) mirror their mother's in terms of being spoiled and feeling entitled, expressed by their poor attitudes and quarrelsome behavior.Kate has turned them to this path, Funny the ones treated the worst seem to have fared the best in terms of personality and good attitudes ( the boys) We'll see what the future hold for all 8.I don't think I worded this well, but Kate reaped what she sowed in terms of the girls.That does not mean I blame the kids or don't feel badly for all of them.
Winsomeone said... 165
I couldn't believe it when Kate said she tipped Alexis for bringing her a snack..who does that sort of thing? My sons and daughter-in-laws are always doing things for me, and I in turn baby sit for them on occasion. No money is ever involved..family members just do thing for each other..who would ever think they needed to be tipped or paid, especially when they are children?
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Then TFW needs to cough up a truckload of tipping money for JON!
coffee made to her specifications brought to her in bed at a certain time, like room service in a 5 star hotel! Getting each child bathed, fed, clothed, into bed each night, getting them ready for school, picking them up.
Someone posted you don't plan cleaning your house out to have a big yard sale, a photoshoot AND a birthday party and filming ALL at the same time on a weekend! Couldn't agree more!
She was awful saying that she had wasted a week working on the photoshoot project. She is nuts! What did she do? Send a few emails back and forth and approve this or approve that? Go online and order some clothes, click this, click that? Piecing and a patching!
I really, really believe she did not give all the money to the shelter. They were 300+ people there and the kids had at least 20 grab bags for 2 dollars apiece. That is 40 dollars out of the 1111.55. Only 60 dollars to 100 dollars and that is a little over 10% to the total she gave. Then people giving her money, hand over fist and all of the food that was sold. She made more than that total.
This yard sale just was not kosher. She's LYING and DECIEVING, AGAIN!
I wonder if TFW kept a #DailyPayStub for the buck she gave A.
I wonder if Kate ever watches her episodes and goes like:" oh boy, thats a lot of drama about nothing-bitchin-moaning-screeching-complaining- fighting, eyerolling and weird funny faces"........ because I sure do!
So um, this would be funnyish if not for the painful part. Having come down with a moderate case of shingles this past week I a) seriously doubt the biotch had shingles and b) care even less about her pathetic life. The comments here do continue to amuse me.
And trust me, I do need some serious amusing.
OrnageCrusher
With Kate calling Jon bizarre in her tweet, I can't help but be reminded of her painfully long and inane lecture to Collin over his comment concerning his sister's hair.
Agghhh, the daily mind f**ks the Gosselin children must endure.
Local yokul, sincere condolences on your loss.
Excluding mental illness, I believe we are born with some innate qualities, honesty being one of them. Then if in a healthy happy environment such qualties are nourished and we thrive as a member of the human race. Sorry for the gibberish...
Sometimes we learn, that being completely honest doesn't benefit anyone, ex: telling your daughter's teacher you think she's morbidly obese." But those little white lies we tell are and should be used only when our conscience tells us it is the best thing, the right thing to do. And i do mean "little," sometimes its just a matter of not telling everything.
Some people learn eventually that being honest is worth it, if only because getting caught later generally comes with a heavy price. So maybe in that moment their nature is to lie, but thinking about the consequence is what keeps them honest, in that moment.
Hopefully they feel better afterwards and learn from it.
I think in people like Kate Gosselin all of this is lacking. Her moral compass is cracked.
Just my opinion, but for Kate, money and fame greatly outweigh the value of honest and decent.
reader said... 197
With Kate calling Jon bizarre in her tweet, I can't help but be reminded of her painfully long and inane lecture to Collin over his comment concerning his sister's hair.
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It is sad and disturbing that KATE will never recognize her own "bizarre" behavior - think back to the RV trip as well as many other of her shows.
Didn't like Jon's article, but she has offended so many times with her behavior, shows, articles, shows, that it would have been best to keep it shut.
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