You would think Celebrity Apprentice is I-an what with how impressed they are with how wonderfully amazing they have been over the years. Look at all the celebrities, look at all the drama, look at all the crazy. Look at....Gary Busey. Just a warning, people like Gary Busey make the likes of Kate look like Dorothy Gale. Trump has never hesitated to put the true mentally ill on his cast, and predictably, antics always ensue.
We start with the top five feuds, and first up is none other than Geraldo getting into it with that chump of a Jonas brother Kevin. Lol, that was a good one indeed. Geraldo is ranting to Jonas about something or other and Jonas tells him there is a "five-second rule," you should wait five seconds before jumping into a conversation you just walked into. I thought the "five-second rule" is for when you drop your pizza, I think he's mixing this up. In any case, Geraldo feels lectured at, and storms out of the room still ranting and cursing. Hehe.
Next up, Nene, who surprisingly, I rather liked, and that idiot tool Star Jones. When Star Jones tried to tell Nene that Nene was going to be PM, Nene flipped out on her, accusing her of "playing her." Haha, I'd forgotten about Ivanka's face, which is basically like "ehhhh!"
At number three is Latoya Jackson and Omarosa, the original Apprentice villain and proof positive even the White House can make a hiring mistake. Things were going along just like a normal fight when Latoya made the fatal error of telling Omarosa to be quiet. Latoya's voice sounds the way I think a Precious Moments figurine's voice would sound. If they could speak.
I think what really made the fight so good was fellow contestant Lil John's commentary on it, explaining that when a black woman cocks her head to the side and puts her hand on her hip, which both women did almost simultaneously, you know there's trouble. Hehe.
Number two is Meatloaf vs. Garey Busey. I vividly remember this fight, and as I recall it was more frightening than funny, with Meatloaf about to burst a ventricle over this. The fight was over who moved my cheese, by the way. Or art supplies. Ultimately Meatloaf shed some man tears and the two hugged it out.
The number one fight was Omarosa again, this time versus Piers Morgan. When Piers said if Omarosa worked at the White House she must have been a cleaner, Omarosa walked over to him and calmly dumped an entire glass of champagne on his head. Hey, I have all the respect in the world for those who clean that particular house, that looks like hard work. The feud continued over the course of the season and even beyond, with Omarosa taking pot shots at his kids and making "your mama" jokes, and Piers calling her a tramp and making some snide remark about her natural habitat. Oy vey.
You know for all its trashiness, I don't think this is the worst reality show an older kid could watch. At least if your child watches one of these trashy feuds, you can say, now what do you think Jonas brother could do differently to collaborate with Geraldo? Or was Omarosa's reaction helpful or not helpful? Surprisingly, there's some lessons in teamwork to be found here. There's not much sex on this show or at least when there is it's all innuendo, and all of the swearing is bleeped out. Plus, consequences are shown for outrageous behavior. As in it often gets you fired, like Kenya. Those who keep it together, like Leeza, do well. It's one of those shows where the villain ultimately never wins, and that's good.
Next, we're going to look at some of Trump's favorite "fails." Hehe, hashtag failing!
Number four is our very own Kenya and her stupid King's Hawaiian buns on your buns campaign. The baby aspect of their campaign was super creepy and creeped out all the executives. While that was a really bad idea, I'm kind of surprised it made the top four. I know I've seen much worse on this show.
Number three deserves its spot. It's when Dennis Rodman signed off on misspelling Trump's wife's name, Melania, on all their graphics for a perfume campaign. He had it as Milania. Poor Brande Roderick had to present the screwed-up graphics to the panel, which included Melania herself. Funny how Brande acted like nothing was wrong nothing to see here, folks, yet you could practically watch the little bead of sweat dripping down her temple. I like the little "what-what???" double take Melania did when she saw the error, lol. Dennis must be joking trying not to get fired in this situation, not with Melania's husband in charge of who goes. He was toast from the moment he approved that little "i."
Number two is Clint Black's totally disgusting idea for a laundry detergent commercial. His video makes the suggestion that two parents would use the product as lube during sex. It's sort of a long story to get there that you don't need to know. Even Joan Rivers, who would not hesitate to make fun of pretty much anything, like even the deaf, thought the whole thing was "a disgrace." When Joan Rivers thinks you've gone too far, guess what, you've gone too far. Clint starred in the video, too. Ewww. The executives thought it was almost like porn, yuck. Which, it totally was.
The number one fail was Gary Busey's mechanical dog idea for an LG campaign, culminating in him barking at Trump in the boardroom. The biggest problem with this was it simply didn't make any sense. "I don't understand," poor Penn Jillette said, unable to control his giggles. Penn and Lisa Rinna, who are much smarter than the average contestant, tried their best to salvage this clusterfuck, but there was no turning back.
By the way introducing all these segments is Trump himself, looking less orange than usual, sitting on that silly leather red throne.
Next are the top four earners on this show. Ian vs. Geraldo collectively raised $600,000 on a wedding dress challenge. Ian lost by only $2,000, and because Braveheart and Mr. Peanut are gentlemen, they agreed to split the cash.
Out of the blue, Paul Teutul Sr.'s team raised over $332,000 selling sandwiches, with over $304,000 coming from Paul himself. Total dark horse. Paul gave the money to Make-a-Wish, and simultaneously put other reality stars to shame, proving even a D-lister can fundraise.
Number two is Trace Adkins's radical, though rather brilliant, idea to close their meatball shop to the general public and only open it to their big check donors. It makes so much sense I'm shocked no one else has done it since, although Geraldo has come close on his fundraising tasks. Don't waste anyone's time trying to schmooze and serve the general public, who may only bring in a few hundred dollars each tops. Everyone's efforts should be on working the phones and chasing down the high rollers. If the same amount of effort (or in some cases, less) is needed to collect $10,000 versus $100, it makes perfect sense to completely forget the $100's and only expend effort on the $10,000's. The plan worked, and over $400,000 was raised for the American Red Cross. By the way, that's what Brandi was trying to say when she complained about Kate spending so much energy schmoozing the general public at their pie shop. It doesn't help anything. In fact, it's a complete waste of time. The task was not to create the best pie shop restaurant, in which case what she did would be beneficial. The task was raise money, period. Unfortunately Kate skated by again that time, but Trace just proved that Brandi was spot owwwn. This was back in the days of two-hour episodes where they had time to actually show Trace presenting the check to the Red Cross right in the field, which was nice.
Number one is John Rich and my all-time favorite contestant of all, Marlee Matlin! For those who like to brush this show off as just a bunch of D-listers, stop right there. Yes, there are plenty of D listers filling in the gaps, but Trump's managed to book some real legends like Marlee, a brilliant actress and Oscar winner. Without a doubt Marlee is one of the greatest actresses of our generation, and certainly the greatest deaf actress there probably ever was. There are A-list celebs like Marlee out there who are not above doing this because it's for charity, any publicity is good publicity, and their ego isn't so inflated that they care about showing their face on a dumb T.V. show. (You can tell some people on this show are mortified they had to resort to this.) Not only was Marlee sharp as a tack, but she was downright hysterical too, full of one-liners and zingers about her fellow contestants or the situations she found herself in, all delivered through her trusty interpreter and business partner, Jack Jason. As Stephen Hawking has an American accent that just seems to fit him, so too does Jack's clearly masculine voice somehow fit Marlee like a glove. Apparently, Marlee has been known to tell people, through Jack of course, that she can hear on Tuesdays. You know, just because she feels like messing with them. And who could forget her brilliant guest appearance on Seinfeld, in which George and Jerry ask her to use her talent for lip reading to spy on George's ex. "Sure, I'll do it!" Lol. For a deaf woman to have such a firm grasp of comedic timing without ever having "heard" a comedian deliver a joke, is really astounding.
Also, her face when that idiot Star Jones tried to whisper over her shoulder to her? Lol.
Rich proved he is a celeb who is sincerely interested in their charity by inviting a St. Jude patient to stop by. Little Collin was cute as a button. Together, Rich and Marlee raised 1.6 million dollars, with Marlee edging him out raising almost a million. With that, she became the celebrity who holds the record as most money ever raised by a celebrity in one sitting not just on this show, but any show. A lot of deaf children have state of the art hearing aids thanks to her. And that's a television legacy worth putting in the history books.
Next up is the top five boardroom backstabs, hehe.
Naturally Joan Rivers's epic duel with Annie Duke is on the list at number five. Joan's insults were colorful as usual, stuff like, "this woman will spit and drown her mother in it" to get ahead. Heh. When Trump suggested Annie is nice, Joan retorted, "so was Hitler." Yipe! They don't show the best part of this feud that happened some time later, when Melissa eventually gets fired instead of Annie, and hobbles around in her walker boot because I guess she broke her ankle at some point, ranting and raving things like "whore" and such. Then Joan grabs her fur coat and gigantic purse and storms out in some kind of furious Mama bear rage. Joan Rivers had actually transformed into Rose Hovick right then. Good ole Joan, thanks for the best guilty pleasure cat fight ever and may you rest in peace.
Number four is Vincent Pastore vs. Piers Morgan. Wow, Piers is showing up a lot on these lists. I think he's quite good at getting under peoples' skin. He knows exactly what he's doing. Vincent was very upset that Piers made him spy on the women's team. It insulted his honor I suppose. And also it didn't help that Piers called him a fat Italian. This all ended with Vincent practically threatening to see to it Piers was offed, and I don't mean just off the show. I mean offed-offed. Well, that was a bit scary. I'd hate to see Piers have to be skirted away to Norway or something for his own protection!
Number three, Richard Hatch vs. David Cassidy. Well that alone is quite funny. I hope no one breaks a nail. It's a little confusing what this was about, but Richard says something about how he has been accused of picking on little people. What? Lol! That sends Nene, Lisa Rinna, and the rest of the women's team into absolute hysterics. Little people, lol! Hehe, that was funny. I think Richard meant picking on people more vulnerable, but little people is so synonymous with dwarfism these days I think that's the first thing most people think. Even Marlee can't help giggling. In other news, it's crazy how much that "I just wanna fly" guy Mark McGrath looks like Ethan Hawke. I bet he gets confused for him a lot in public, which I imagine is a blow to the ego.
Number two is from Kate's season, Kenya vs. Vivica. Yeah, that deserves a spot. Cell phone-gate, of course. Kenya took, sorry stole, Vivica's phone, tweeted about menopause, and then tried to pretend she had nothing to do with it. It took Vivica way too long to figure this out, especially given, you know, her phone was missing. When she finally solved the oh-so-complicated puzzle, boy was she ticked off at that "dirty-ass bitch" and "low-down dirty bird." Hehe, I guess Vivica really thinks Kenya needs a bath. Hard to imagine what will top this one, but here it is.
Piers Morgan vs. Omarosa again, of course. Omarosa said he was a terrible father, and Piers said she was trash. That fight was low I guess, but not nearly as interesting as say Rose Hovick vs. the Queen of Hearts or Vincent threatening to stick Whitey Bulger on Piers. Wow, Carol Alt is sheer elegance. I don't even think she's had much work done. She looks so out of place among these doofuses. Or doofi. She looks like how I imagine Duchess Kate will look at her age. You know, keeping it classy.
All these clips make me want to rewatch some of these seasons. I haven't seen them since they aired and some of them were so good!
Trump tries to explain he hates firing people. Please Trump, you love it. This show found its success on the "you're fired" tag line, remember when that was as popular as "hashtag winning!"?
The top five most memorable firings are:
Number five, firing that doofus Kevin Jonas. He made the absolutely suicidal choice of bringing a strong player into the boardroom, I-an, instead of who he should have brought back, the weaker Lorenzo. Except he made a huge mistake in assuming he was as strong as Ian. Oopsie. I guess this would have been an amazing strategic power play had he actually pulled it off, but since he didn't, it's nothing but a flat whoopee cushion. This cherry-cheeked little doughboy couldn't have a bigger ego, and actually thought he could out-think Trump. You're fired!
Number four is what I consider an absolutely classic Apprentice firing. If you don't know why Celebrity Apprentice is the best bad show on television, this is the clip to watch. It's amazing how far Ivanka has come in just a few short years. What the hell is Ivanka rocking here? She's got her hair parted in these weird chunks on either side of her head, huge rectangle white earrings that look more like that missing piece to your blinds you've been looking for that fell behind the desk, and some sort of cape-like dark purple regal kind of ensemble. She's so much classier now, much simpler yet stylish. Girls, there is such a big difference in our styles between 25 and 30, can I get an Amen? Conversely, Trump looked much better back then, his hair a sort of brown shade the color a human might actually be able to grow on their own in the natural world. Anyway, the crux of this is Trump practically told Gene Simmons who to bring back into the boardroom so that he could fire someone other than Gene, who for some odd reason Trump loves. Trump always loves the strangest people. But since Gene is Gene, instead he brought back two people who did nothing wrong on the task. Trump was so annoyed at the way Gene tied Trump's hands, you would think his eyes were going to squint right out of his head. Gene, I have no choice, you're fired.
The number three firing is kind of sad, in which Dennis Rodman admits he has a drinking problem which seems to be interfering with the game. The other contestants were rather supportive, which was nice. Hey, an Ed Hardy hat! Those were the days. Trump says Dennis let him down and lets him go. I quite like how Trump handled that situation, because I think it's usually better for addicts to hear that you really screwed up and I'm disappointed, as opposed to things like "I don't mind, don't worry, it's going to be okay."
Lol, number two is Ian's firing. Trump's reaction to his jingle was so funny just because it had to have been everyone's reaction at home too. Wtf, that's La Cucaracha! Lol. Ian gaslights so hard that you can smell it. I still laugh when Eric tells his dad yes Dad you're right, and Trump just replies, "Good son." You're fired!
Oh, number one is Melissa getting fired instead of Annie Duke, and hobbling around in her boot while Mom storms out behind her. No wonder they didn't include this epic clip earlier, that explains it. They were saving it for now! At one point there is so much cursing/bleeping going on all I can make out is ----- lying ----- horse------. They think that you're through, baby, but you'll be swell! In honor of Rose Hovick here, I give you the greatest stage mother of them all, Rosalind Russell as Rose singing "Everything's Coming up Roses."
Finally we do an overview of the winners, which are Piers Morgan, who was a high roller with no shame whose tactics were pretty aggressive. That's generally a sure way to get to the end on this show. The next winner was Joan Rivers. She didn't quit for good after all, she came back with an incredible focus and drive and used her wits and experience in all things showbiz to beat out her nemesis Annie Duke. I think Joan Rivers is just a classic example of how you don't need to be the prettiest girl in the room, or the smartest, or the tallest, or the most stylish. But, you do need to be the hardest working if you don't have that. Fill up your calendar all day every day with work. And if you work damn hard at it, I mean writing-down-and-cataloguing-every-single-joke-you-ever-thought-of hard, you can get good at anything. In fact, better than everyone else eventually when it all shakes out. Malcolm Gladwell agrees.
Brett Michaels was the next winner. He was a bit softer spoken than most other winners, but he was darn determined. He beat Holly Robinson Peete, who is as sharp as they come. Apparently, she's a gem. I know one of her son's teachers, and she says Holly once invited the entire class all over to their mansion for a pool party, teachers and all. They're good people.
John Rich was the next winner. I was disappointed Marlee Matlin didn't win, but there's no denying that John was a tough, smart, work horse type player. It was quite possibly the hardest choice Trump ever had to make, given John and Marlee were easily the best players to ever, ever grace this show then and now. But for John on that season, it would have been Marlee.
Arsenio Hall won his season next, which I was pleased with for the simple fact that I didn't really like Clay Aiken that much. As I recall, Clay was very patronizing and not as good as he thought he was.
Trace Atkins won next, another softer-spoken winner but work horse and good fundraiser. He was willing to try some pretty risky ideas, and they paid off. He played the game to win, which is generally how you win, wouldn't you know it. See, good guy always wins.
Finally we do an overview of the winners, which are Piers Morgan, who was a high roller with no shame whose tactics were pretty aggressive. That's generally a sure way to get to the end on this show. The next winner was Joan Rivers. She didn't quit for good after all, she came back with an incredible focus and drive and used her wits and experience in all things showbiz to beat out her nemesis Annie Duke. I think Joan Rivers is just a classic example of how you don't need to be the prettiest girl in the room, or the smartest, or the tallest, or the most stylish. But, you do need to be the hardest working if you don't have that. Fill up your calendar all day every day with work. And if you work damn hard at it, I mean writing-down-and-cataloguing-every-single-joke-you-ever-thought-of hard, you can get good at anything. In fact, better than everyone else eventually when it all shakes out. Malcolm Gladwell agrees.
Brett Michaels was the next winner. He was a bit softer spoken than most other winners, but he was darn determined. He beat Holly Robinson Peete, who is as sharp as they come. Apparently, she's a gem. I know one of her son's teachers, and she says Holly once invited the entire class all over to their mansion for a pool party, teachers and all. They're good people.
John Rich was the next winner. I was disappointed Marlee Matlin didn't win, but there's no denying that John was a tough, smart, work horse type player. It was quite possibly the hardest choice Trump ever had to make, given John and Marlee were easily the best players to ever, ever grace this show then and now. But for John on that season, it would have been Marlee.
Arsenio Hall won his season next, which I was pleased with for the simple fact that I didn't really like Clay Aiken that much. As I recall, Clay was very patronizing and not as good as he thought he was.
Trace Atkins won next, another softer-spoken winner but work horse and good fundraiser. He was willing to try some pretty risky ideas, and they paid off. He played the game to win, which is generally how you win, wouldn't you know it. See, good guy always wins.
We're finally up to this current season, here we go! Last time on Celebrity Apprentice, Ian's nuttiness finally caught up, and their jingle absolutely sucked. Leeza and Vivica came up with a much better jingle, with a few lines from Geraldo that actually worked, the executives couldn't even find anything wrong with their jingle, and Team Vortex finally wins after five straight losses.
Trump fired the entire other team, Brandi, Ian and Johnny, which was bullshit, but I'm over it.
Vivica, Leeza and Geraldo are waiting in the suite to find out who got fired, and nobody is coming back. Leeza says it's been hours now. I completely forgot about the fact that if everybody gets fired, no one will come back to tell them what happened. So they're sitting here thinking this must be the most agonizing decision of Trump's life, hehe! I guess a producer will have to tell them at some point.
Finally the phone rings. Leeza approaches it like she's about to dismantle a bomb, lol, she's so scared. "Team Vortex?" she says as she picks it up. Hehe, that's just adorable. If you're going to play this game, you might as well just get into it.
Trump's receptionist says he wants them in the boardroom. "At least it's not Vladimir Putin," Geraldo says. Heh, current events jokes. Welcome to the nerds club.
Poor things, they must be wondering if he's going to fire them too or something. They all seem pretty happy the other team got offed, which surprises me. I thought they all liked Brandi and Johnny and would at least miss them.
Trump puts them on the spot right there and then and says he's going to pick the final two now, and starts asking them questions like why they should be the next Apprentice. So in essence, four people will get fired in one sitting. I have a feeling this has far more to do with Trump being ordered by NBC to tighten up this season so they can streamline it into just a few short weeks, rather than Trump seriously wanting to off four people at once. A mass firing is a quick and easy way to cut things down without any fuss, done.
Can I just say that I hate this aspect of reality shows when it happens? You know, the interview. It's like watching a senior in college meet the boss for the first time at a real job. It's always so awkward and amateur. British Apprentice devotes an entire episode to the interview each season, and it's like nails on a chalkboard to me. Something awful or awkward always happens, always. Even if someone can interview well, they're so darn nervous and put on the spot it never ends well. I don't think I've ever seen a single interview under these circumstances go well.
Vivica says lame stuff like she has more to learn from Trump, and since Geraldo and Leeza are the smartest on this cast, they very slyly team up against Vivica to try to get her fired. Very sharp to team up after the weaker player.
Then Vivica does something completely nuts and says that Leeza is a better player than her, she can't lie. What is with this season? I've never seen so many contestants fall on the sword for each other, from Lorenzo to Brandi to now Vivica. There was clearly some kind of bizarre and intense bonding going on in the suites during production, with some of these people absolutely adamant they've come out of it friends for life. I've never seen anything like it on this show.
Even Leeza looks shocked and is like, what, no, don't do it!
Trump seems to accept Vivica's letter of resignation and even sort of respects her for it, and fires her. Sigh, I don't get that. There is so much more money to potentially win for your charity. It's one thing to quit when Lorenzo did, but you made it to the top three! Why quit now? That's crazy. I definitely put the odds that this was completely set up and scripted as just a quick way to get rid of Vivica, at about 60-40. It's that blatantly scripted. It's so hard to imagine Vivica doing that out of the blue, especially when she had no idea two minutes ago why they were even in the boardroom in the first place. She just thought of this as she was sitting there? Odd. Even if she truly did just decide to do this, this should not be something you decide in two minutes. It's too big of a decision to quit, and too much is at stake for your charity. She didn't think about this carefully, there's no way she did, and for that she disappoints.
For the final task Trump is sending them to Florida on his private jet (ha-ha, suck it, Kate) to make a commercial about Univeral. Okay, I am now convinced Geraldo thinks autistic is pronounced "artistic." He's said it that way about five times now. Malaprop confirmed. What a doofus.
Note that Trump said they should invite all of their celebrity friends. All! Aw, think somebody will invite Doofus?
Trump says the money raised is just going to be one factor, he will judge them on a bunch of other things too. I like that so much, it's so much more fair. Being a good fundraiser is a nice skill but an Apprentice should be much more well-rounded than that. Plus Leeza is screwed if it's only about money, and perhaps this was set up from the get-go for her to win, so they can't have that.
Leeza and Geraldo have sort of a journalist's code going on between them. Leeza emphasizes that they've known each other forever, which doesn't surprise me. They may both report on a lot of entertainment news and pop culture and perhaps aren't taken that seriously, but they are both among the pioneers of modern television journalism, and that's a small world. This is a gentleman's duel to them, and even if you end up shot you will still shake your opponent's hand and say good fight. Since when did this show get so darn civil?
All right, I'll allow myself to be "just jelluz" of this jet. Airplanes have become such disgusting cattle cars these days, how nice it must be to be the only two passengers on your own little shuttle. Leeza and Geraldo board and set off in style to Orlando. I find Geraldo's mustache really gross up close. It looks like a brillo pad. Ew, stop twisting it.
Geraldo seems to think his charity is the only one to have the idea of getting the mentally disabled out of institutions. He acts like everybody else must stay in a giant 800-bed hospital in the polluted part of town. That's not the case at all, not in 2015. There are group homes everywhere now. In certain communities like mine where zoning allows for it, you can find one on every corner and they often just look like someone's house. And in fact many autistic people live at home with family. I don't think it's that he doesn't realize this, or is deliberately lying. I think it's that he is one of those who just says things and lives his own truth without really being concerned with whether it's really factual or not. He's rather like a politician, actually. Only what is he running for? To be "the best," I suppose.
Woo-hoo, some of the fired contestants are back to help and it's not Kate, baw-hahhaha! I absolutely love that Kate is not included in this. Brandi, Johnny and Jonas brother will be on Leeza's team. Of course Jonas brother feels he has so much more to show and give. Well, we've definitely seen all sides of that silly little ego of his, I wonder what else he could possibly have in there.
Leeza has a good idea to do a "memories" theme, which ties in nicely with her Alzheimer's charity. She is going to try to get Olivia Newton John to come sing for her. Okay, Olivia Newton John is totally in the same group of friends I know who know Leeza. See, they really are true friends, and have been so for decades. I never met Olivia or Leeza, but I heard so much about them I felt like I had. Olivia was the type who preferred to have people over at her house instead of going to somebody else's, so people were always flocking over there. Of course since I was mostly friends with the "kids" in this family not the adults, us kids would end up staying behind while the old folks had all the fun off with the celebs. Olivia's daughter who is my age was trying to build her own music career. Some of my college friends who had videography experience helped her out with making some music videos and things like that. Chloe was a nice girl, I don't think she ever made it though like she wanted to. Like many children of celebrities, she doesn't have that same unexplainable spark her mom does. She is pretty and talented, but so are lots of people. It takes something more than that. It is tough to be in the shadow of someone like Olivia. Anyway, my two degrees of separation to Leeza is turning out to be good fun.
I guess the only worry I would have here is that Olivia Newton John, as nice of a woman she is, is kind of dated. I'm not even sure many younger folks know who she is. I don't know if she has the kind of broad appeal that would attract a broad audience. Leeza admits Olivia is a friend but doesn't disclose that Olivia is one of her best friends, nor does she have to disclose that, but I know that in fact she is, and I wonder if that is coloring her judgement.
Ian, Vivica and Lorenzo will be on Geraldo's team. Haha, that's two contestants fired before Kate who are back to help, Lorenzo and Jonas brother. Where is Doofus? How do the sheeple explain this oversight?
In the past, celebs have picked from a selection of former contestants, schoolyard style. I really wanted to see Kate have to stand there and not be picked and hobble herself home empty handed in coach. But I suppose it's just as much fun to imagine the producers not even giving her the phone call to show up for the pick in the first place. I wonder how long she waited by the phone for that call to never come like she does when the kids go to Jon's.
Geraldo is not so happy to have Lorenzo and Ian on his team since he didn't really get along with either of them. Ian says look, he was trying to get Geraldo out of this game since day one, but it didn't work out. That doesn't mean he's not going to work darn hard for him. That's how a mature adult handles such a situation, of course. That's a big reason why Kate flew under the radar for so long, because better players like Ian were much more worried about the big fish.
I do have to say Leeza has the much stronger team when it comes to brainstorming ideas. Geraldo's ideas are always lame, and they already sound lame here, with Geraldo acting as a reporter who leads the kids into the Harry Potter thing. He will even dress up as Harry. Geriatric Harry I guess? Oh, yeah, kids will love to follow after a creepy old Harry Potter growing an ill-advised mustache. Geez, Geraldo, think.
Back to Leeza's team, and they're hashing out their good ideas. Leeza is so much better than anyone else on this season's show it's embarrassing. She fits right in with the likes of Marlee and John. She's using buzzwords like axis point and hook that smart people realize is important to hit on in a project like this. This is about more than just putting together a video. It's about understanding what makes a commercial work, and then executing that. Leeza gets that. Few other doofuses on this show would.
Jonas has a rather great idea of an over-scheduled Dad who finally learns to relax at Universal. It's simple and I'm pretty sure it's been done before, but it's completely effective. They meet with the executives who are going to let them film in the park.
Ian is extremely proud of himself for coming up with questions that Leeza's team didn't think of to ask the executives. Lol, he's a trip. Geraldo's ideas have to do with "inner hero" as a theme, buzzwords the executives actually used. Not bad either.
I'm shallow and notice Jonas brother is so pale and doughy just walking around, I wish he would just pick one and either grow a beard or shave it off, and his style is just downright dowdy with lots of sweaters and patterned pastel shirts. I can see him maturing into a completely ugly 35-year-old man and terrible dresser. And, he's proven to be a tool. The kids these days could do so much better.
I guess they are scouting a bit at a pool and Leeza's friend calls in with a big donation which excites her greatly. Wow, there are a fuckety-million (shoutout to Tucker!) fans everywhere staring and taking photos. I guess it's not every day you were just going to get on the Tilt-a-Whirl and you bumped into Leeza Gibbons and a Jonas brother instead.
Tee-hee, Brandi and Johnny play hooky to go get some beer and hot dogs. I love them. Jonas thinks he needs to get a leash for them like his parents did to him. His parents put him on a leash? That explains a lot. What's next, they killed his pet bunnies too? Geez. Leeza's kind of like whatever let's not worry about where they are. Because let's be honest Leeza is running this show and whether anyone else shows up to the party doesn't really concern her that much. I mean she appreciates the help but she could run it on her own too, so it doesn't matter to her. I find it interesting to see how differently Leeza and Jonas brother reacted to two teammates gone missing. Leeza doesn't let something like that distract her for a second. Certainly throughout her career lots of people have not been up to snuff but if she spent all her time worrying about them it would only hurt herself, and she's smart enough to know it. On the other hand, Jonas brother is young, naive, dumb, and a stickler for the rules. He is very concerned with others, what they're up to, and the kind of weight they are pulling, so hot dog and beer-gate bothers him so much more and holds him back from doing what he needs to do. I think it's obvious which approach is more successful.
Haha, Brandi and Johnny are actually in fact doing absolutely nothing, just chit-chatting and drinking. I wonder what led up to this. Were they just like, "Eehhh, I'm bored, you? It's not like we're getting fired so, fuck it, right? Hot dog?" Lol, so great.
Geraldo seems much more concerned with the selling/donation part of this task in which they have to sell vacation packages. This is kind of bad because Ian has already tapped most of his donors for ridiculous amounts, and Lorenzo and Vivica aren't going to be much help.
I think Geraldo would look so much better if he just cut about two inches off his hair. He's just so shaggy and it's not attractive. Geraldo goes back to his old standbys at Fox and such and seems to be making a bit of headway.
Over at Leeza's team, Brandi and Johnny have full bellies and are perhaps slightly tipsy but ready to work. Leeza is explaining that she is going to send them back to the park for something or other. Oh nice, they could go for hot dog number two. Lol, speaking of food, there's a huge half-eaten hamburger and fries in front of Brandi and Johnny, too. Taking a page from Kate there I see, hehe. You can tell how much more relaxed Brandi is now that she has nothing on the line. She's more like how she is on her housewife show, just sort of floating along kind of a hot mess. Apparently she really thrives when something is at stake. Not so much when all there is to do is eat the free food, get filmed doing so, and lend a hand if you can.
Leeza taps some of her previous donors and scores another big donation.
Brandi says she has never met a kinder person who never once has not given 100%. That is so lovely to hear. Leeza is exactly the sort of celebrity who benefits astronomically from a stint on this show in terms of their good will and image. People who know her know she is the greatest and they've told other people like me how cool she is, but news doesn't travel far in this case and other than that small group I don't think anyone else really had a clue who Leeza is other than that she can explain the entertainment news of the day to you in an orderly fashion. Now thanks to this show, millions know her as one of the nicest, kindest, most genuine celebrities there ever was. It has been nothing but good for her.
Conversely, Jonas brother is clearly a fool, and there is no way I would have realized that before this show or even thought much on him. I guarantee I will never be able to hear the surname Jonas again without thinking of what a doofus Kevin was on this show.
Leeza says she's not going to worry about Geraldo because her mother once told her to stay in her lane and do not look at the other horses running the race. That's wise. Bless her dear mother's wonderful heart and may she rest in peace. And that's another thing that makes Leeza great. She listens to Mom.
Jonas brother actually has a good point in that they're probably not going to beat Geraldo on fundraising any day of the week but that's okay because the task is also about the creative side, where they can smoke him. I give him credit for keeping Leeza focused on her strengths and not worry about the part of the task she's not going to beat Geraldo at. He's right, don't waste too much time on something that's a wash. Focus on where you can make the most difference and win that way.
Vivica and Lorenzo go off to scout Universal for Geraldo's team. I remember Lorenzo is a strong director so Geraldo may have more of an edge on this than I thought. This part is sort of like a mini commercial for Universal hidden within the show. It used to bother me shows did this but since this has happened for over ten years from now I think I've come to accept it. I get it, product placements are just a part of reality shows now.
Back in the war room Geraldo is trying to figure out who his entertainment will be. What, Ian who has a rolodex the size of a small country doesn't have any good rock bands up his sleeve? You mean he doesn't even know a guy who knows a guy....who knows another guy? Hehe.
That was a little shoutout to Better Call Saul, probably one of the best shows on television this spring. Even though I loved the character of Saul on Breaking Bad and appreciated the attention to detail, at the same time I felt it was one of the show's weaker points, just because it got a little hokey at times, silly, not believable. I expected his spinoff show to be like that, but thankfully it's really not. This latest episode exploring Saul's "guy" Mike's roots, and how his police career ended, almost plays out like a really good Breaking Bad fan fiction with overarching themes like fathers and sons and how far you will go to avenge a wrong against someone you loved. It's a show for fans, for sure, and it's very, very good. Dare I say they've improved on the memorable lawyer character by leaps and bounds.
Geraldo thinks he might be able to get Josh Groban, but he's not sure. And this is why Geraldo is such a bad-idea idiot, he says if they can't get Josh maybe they could sing themselves. Oh good, Lord. No, Geraldo. Just no.
Yep, Geraldo is just as creepy as I imagined dressed up like Harry Potter.
Lorenzo calls him the X factor. Yeah, pretty much.
Leeza nails down Olivia Newton John, who is ready to hop on a plane right now and come out. That's because she and Leeza are actually best friends in real life. They kind of play it like Leeza can't believe she would do this, but dollars to donuts I bet they had an arrangement Olivia would help her out on the last task if needed. It's too coincidental somebody who always has a full calendar would be so available.
Johnny and Brandi are supposed to be shopping but get bored again and decide to take a roller coaster ride, lol. I wish they cared a little bit more about focusing on helping Leeza, but they're funny just the same. This is also another mini commercial for Universal of course. Brandi is excited about how big her boobs look in the photo they took of them on the roller coaster. Yep, that's Brandi. They come back empty handed? Haha. Because Leeza is never stopped by anything going wrong, she just laughs this off and moves on. She has no time for this. That is because she is a rockstar who would never let antics like this stop her for a second.
Jonas brother, on the other hand, is quietly brooding over all this, getting more annoyed the more Brandi and Johnny goof off. What does he care? If Leeza is not mad what right does he have to be upset? It's not his project. See as I explained before, for him it's about keeping score and making sure it's "fair" and that everyone pulls their weight and petty stuff like that. You can worry about that if you like, but it's usually a waste of time and isn't going to change people who don't feel like stepping up. All it does is slow you down. What a shame he doesn't see that.
Over at Geraldo's team, Geraldo has already set up the first shot for the commercial, and it's completely different than what Lorenzo has meticulously planned out. Lorenzo can't believe he did that without him there. It's all wrong. This is where Geraldo's ego gets in the way. He doesn't really trust Lorenzo, or anyone, to do their jobs. He actually thinks it's just better if he does it. What a fool. Even Ian and Vivica can't believe the way Geraldo is ignoring all of the pre-production planning. That is super annoying, as Lorenzo and Vivica spent all day planning this all and now Geraldo is just scrapping it. They are right about this, there was no point in them going to all that trouble all day only to be ignored. If Geraldo had no intentions of using their pre-production work, he shouldn't have had them do that in the first place.
Hehe, Lorenzo does his impression of Vivica, holding up a finger and saying, "This is not somethin' that is on the shot list! Uh-emm!" Lol.
Leeza's team begins shooting their actor family, with that doofus Jonas as Mr. DeMille. Well that's one of the few bad moves I've seen Leeza make. What in the world does he know about this?
Back at Geraldo's team, they are setting up the shot where Geraldo acts as a reporter. Geraldo has given the reins back to Lorenzo fortunately, and things are running much smoother. That is until they can't find the child actors they've hired to be in the shot. Oops. Apparently the actors aren't even on site, they were sent to their war room to wait. They waste a lot of time trying to assign blame for this. That was a huge screw up. It kind of sounds like maybe it was Vivica's fault, but it also sounds like it was an overall communication breakdown. Who really knows, who really cares.
From now on I'm in charge of every shot, Geraldo announces. Oh, yeah, that will improve things, hehe.
Next time, the finale. Leeza vs. Geraldo with Doofus and the other contestants returning, Live!!!
1608 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1608 Newer› Newest»Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago
@GeeWhiz__ @Kateplusmy8 If the "older woman" Jon is dating turns out 2b #MargaretThatcher I'm going 2fall out!! #OlderWomanWithImportantJob
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Ummmmmmm.....
I hope not too, Milo, because that would be really weird to date a dead woman.
#vanillaenvelopes
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 55s55 seconds ago
@MissAmericaUTN @Kateplusmy8 Well, I'm so sorry abt that! Geez, U should live N my town...we all ignorantly say that & get along just fine!
LOL!! Apparently they don't all get along just fine if neighbors had to pull out in the middle of the night to get away from Kravitz!
AuntieO'Annigan said... 181
Tucker's Mom said... 108
I'm making Shepherd's Pie for tonight.
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With real sheep meat?
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Silly AuntieO'Annigan (ha!)! Of course not. It's made from real shepherd meat! I think the ingredients come from Sweeney O'Todd's butcher shop.
Also, do your manila cupcakes come from a box?
And now for something completely different. A bit of trivia, courtesy of Ask.com:
Manila envelopes get their name from the manila fiber harvested from the abacá plant, which is a relative of the banana. The tough fibers of manila hemp make the envelopes and folders highly durable. The abacá plant is native to the Philippines, whose capital is Manila.
Palin, like her or not-whether she really can see Russia from her house-has got "IT".
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She's charismatic, and many Alaskans seem to love her. There are a lot of cultural differences up there, and she understood those and spoke to the people in a way they could relate. She's a fighter. She has certain ideas about how things should be up there and she fights for them. She believes in what she is doing.
When I watch the Gosselin-Palin episodes, even if I never knew those people, they seemed fun and easy going. Camping with them looked fun. The G kids were having FUN with them. They did simple things that reminded me of how I grew up, like making a map of Alaska out of rocks, fishing, or looking at old animal antlers. They didn't talk about politics, they kept it separate.
Game Change was an excellent film and book, I've seen and read both, and I think they really captured how some people really related to her and adored her. They also captured the way she was plucked and used to fit a certain role they wanted, and McCain's guilt and reluctance over it. He loved her, and he felt sorry that she was sometimes made a fool of to help him advance. She really worked very hard to be what McCain wanted of her, she loved him too and loved this country, and she fell short not for lack of hard work. In her VP debate she actually did quite well and it was because she really busted her butt to not disappoint.
One thing I really thought was nice in the movie is the way they captured how special needs kids and their parents felt they finally had someone who understood. It was a really touching moment. It was a fair treatment of her, which I wasn't expecting.
Just what does "I'm going 2fall out" mean? I don't speak Ewe.
It's funny that the Chief Ewes can't stop themselves from tweeting Kate exactly what she's plainly said she doesn't want to see or hear about.
Do they think she doesn't know that she has haters on her Twitter every single day? Some days more, some less?
Do they think she wants to read that Jon's seeing someone, or considering public office?
The obsequiousness knows no end.
PatK said... 6
Just what does "I'm going 2fall out" mean? I don't speak Ewe.
March 17, 2015 at 3:42 PM
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of the wheelchair?
I have no idea!
"The more she tweets the more stupid she looks. Margaret Thatcher? Does she even know that Margaret Thatcher died 2 years ago?"
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As dumb as she is, I'm surprised she even knows who Margaret Thatcher was. Since the sheep are under the impression that Jon is dead, then maybe they would think that he's hooked up with Margaret somewhere in the Great Beyond.
I live in Ghettoville, and I'll confirm that the locals here aren't sick of Jon. In fact, I've never heard any nasty or derogatory thing said about him. Not true of Kate, who is definitely not looked upon favorably in this mediocre neck of the woods. Most here are just amazed that he put up with her as long as he did.
PatK said... 6
Just what does "I'm going 2fall out" mean? I don't speak Ewe.
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...of my good bra?
of the wheelchair?
I have no idea!
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It must be one of those sayings they all have in her town and everyone says it and they all get along just fine.
"The obsequiousness knows no end."
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You do know that those who read in this cesspool, copy and paste to other blogs and use the posts here as their only means of discourse will scramble to the online dictionary to look up the meaning of the word! They have problems with your and you're, saw and seen, and their, they're and there, as well as apostrophes so you can imagine what they'd do to that word as they try to figure out if it's a noun, verb, adverb or adjective!
If sheeple would have any ounce of intelligence or critical thinking ability, we wouldn't have nearly this much fun with their screw-ups. They really do provide a great deal of comic relief!
Just what does "I'm going 2fall out" mean? I don't speak Ewe.
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Who knows with Milo with this means.
But where I'm from it mean you going to pass out from laughing so hard.
...of my good bra?
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Gladys wears a bra? Must be one that Kate outgrew.
What in the world would Kate have done today where she said she learned a lot and listened a lot?!
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·20 mins20 minutes ago
Was a gr8 day here.. Accomplished a lot,learned a lot, &listened a lot..Not even bed X and this mom is #Depleted! #DoItAllOverAgainTomorrow
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Good for you, Kate! As long as whatever you're teasing about doesn't involve the kids, go for it.
Maybe she's finally "going2fall out" of the closet?
PatK said... 6
Just what does "I'm going 2fall out" mean? I don't speak Ewe.
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To me, the term "to fall out" is a a military command, so I don't know what Milo means. Maybe she meant she would break rank and get off twitter. Or that she would "fall out" of love with Kate.
Meaning of the military command "fall out".
"Fall out: Individuals drop out of formation. By custom, officers usually take a single step backward with their left foot. Non-commissioned officers break ranks but generally stay in the area unless dismissed."
Or it's just one those sayings that everyone uses in her town, just like "vanilla" envelope, and only they know what it means.
A usage like "vanilla" for "manila" is called an eggcorn. I had never heard the term before. According to wikipedia, "In linguistics, an eggcorn is an idiosyncratic substitution of a word or phrase for a word or words that sound similar or identical in the speaker's dialect (sometimes called oronyms). " So now we know.There is more info in the wikipedia article. There is a whole web site devoted to eggcorns. It is such an unusual phrase that autocorrect keeps putting in a space and making it two words. In case it does it again, it is ONE word. Eggcorn, not egg corn.
Call Me Crazy said... 3
Silly AuntieO'Annigan (ha!)! Of course not. It's made from real shepherd meat! I think the ingredients come from Sweeney O'Todd's butcher shop.
Also, do your manila cupcakes come from a box?
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Yes, it's a Betty O'Crocker speciality item.
Sweeny O'Todd...lol!
Math Girl said... 15
A usage like "vanilla" for "manila" is called an eggcorn.
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Well, that's fitting since Milo is an egghead.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 36m36 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Ha...are U having #ParentTeacher meetings abt ur kids? That would take a lot of time...times 8! :)
Milo, you moron. Did it ever occur to you that it's possible to have a phone conference?
Everything, and I mean everything, revolves around Kate, except vanilla envelopes.
I'm beginning to really doubt that this person has children. She certainly seems to be way out of the loop when it comes to kids.
And then there's a mumpsimus:
"A mumpsimus is an action by a person who adheres to a routine, idea, custom, set of beliefs, or a certain use of language that has been shown to be unreasonable or incorrect. "
Milo is a perfect example of one who practices mumpsimus and is proud of it.
The blog can be very educational!
Gee Whiz@GeeWhiz__·50 secs50 seconds ago
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 If she really cared 4 him she would let him use her name. She's embarrassed to be linked to a deadbeat dad.
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No, I'm betting it's maybe because she'd like to keep her privacy from your group of trolling thugs.
I need to stop reading the tweets from some of the sheeple, particularly this one,. because I just can't wrap my brain around the fact that they are so stupid that they'd make a comment like this. Good grief.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 4h4 hours ago
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Jon lies again. Claims the kids filming without his permission is illegal when HE gave up the right to say no.lol
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 6m6 minutes ago
@GeeWhiz__ @Kateplusmy8 If the "older woman" Jon is dating turns out 2b #MargaretThatcher I'm going 2fall out!! #OlderWomanWithImportantJob
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going to 'fallout' ...means to laugh your ass off.
FlimsyO'Flamsy said... 16
Maybe she's finally "going2fall out" of the closet?
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Good one, Flimsy! I'd say it's about time!
Oh, admin, it looks like that pesky troll who is out to get you, is still, well, out to get you! I'd say we should all chip in and buy her (or him) a new sandbox or playground. Sears has some great deals right now.
angie said... 25
going to 'fallout' ...means to laugh your ass off.
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Ahhh, thank you, angie. I've never heard that expression.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 36m36 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Ha...are U having #ParentTeacher meetings abt ur kids? That would take a lot of time...times 8! :)
No, Gladys. No need to get your vanilla panties in a bunch. Conferences are next week.
I've heard people in rural virginia say " I had a falling out spell" to mean they fainted or passed out.
"No, I'm betting it's maybe because she'd like to keep her privacy from your group of trolling thugs."
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You got that right, PatK! Can you imagine what they'd do to her if they knew who she is? Her identity is nobody's business, and the Kate fans don't get that. Jon owes them nothing...absolutely nothing.
Hey Gladys, Margaret Thatcher is dead.
Alaskan Mama
Milo is a perfect example of one who practices mumpsimus and is proud of it.
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What part of speech is that? Should it be "practices mumpsimusism?"
Also, do your manila cupcakes come from a box?
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Yes, it's a Betty O'Crocker speciality item.
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Great. Now I'm O'hungry for cupcakes, preferably chocolate or red velvet. Manila will just make me think of Gladys and I don't want to do that while I'm eating.
Anonymous, legal custody IS irrelevant to whether the judge can make an order that Jon is to both be informed of and sign off on filming.
Family law orders are like snowflakes. The judge can make whatever specific orders they want, regardless of who has what custody, including the procedure for filming ones children. Look at other reality stars who have fought this issue in court, including that Simon guy from Real Housewives. If it were as simple as breaking it down by legal custody, no one would have to go to court in the first place. It's simply not.
If the judge wants Jon to be informed of filming, he or she can and apparently has made that order. No law says they can't. The total and utter misunderstanding of legal custody is shaking head worthy. Again, it's being confused with parental rights. It does not mean you are not entitled to have your children, be informed of what is going on with them including their contracts, schooling, medical issues and religion, nor does it mean you lose your parental rights. No, Wendi Williams (and Kate the parental alienator didn't correct her). Another scenario I've seen is where the dad lives out the country but his child sees him several times a year. Dad is appropriate and they have a good relationship, but he can't come back to the states. Mom is given full legal custody because it could be too hard to get in touch with him in an emergency and it's a hassle to do paperwork when you don't live in the same country. But it is joint physical, and nobody has a problem with dad nor does dad have a problem with mom having legal--he's happy that it will be easier on her that way. Like I said it's the trend and I'm seeing it more and more. The trend for awhile was 50-50 as much as possible. I think they have finally had enough with litigating every little thing because they made it joint legal and nobody has veto power but the judge.
"I'm beginning to really doubt that this person has children. She certainly seems to be way out of the loop when it comes to kids."
Oh my gosh I said this very thing a few months ago. I don't believe for a second she has kids or even knows many kids. She's too out of the loop, as you said. Perfect description.
"To me, the term "to fall out" is a a military command, so I don't know what Milo means. Maybe she meant she would break rank and get off twitter. Or that she would "fall out" of love with Kate."
Interesting that's a military term. I didn't realize that. She's said several military type things, like drop and give me 20. Her husband sounds marines or something. And an ass. Not that the two are related.
PatK (23)
The sheeple are just beside themselves over the fact that Jon didn't reveal his girlfriend's name. Why would they care? It's not like any of them know her. The only reason they care is because they are dying to trash her, and they can't if they don't know who she is.
Here's an idea…perhaps she didn't ask him to keep her name secret. Perhaps he just doesn't want her hounded by the sheeple, and HE chose not to reveal her identity. Because he cares about her.
It's just killing Milo that she doesn't know this woman's identity.
#DoItAllOverAgainTomorrow
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Dolt all over again tomorrow, Kate?
Well I think we can all agree on that one! (what a doofus)
#dolt
Why do they think anyone should have to disclose who they are dating?
Some people don't want to be in the public eye. Has nothing to do with being embarrassed. They cannot grasp this.
Joseph Gordon Levitt has famously kept his girlfriend, now wife, top secret. Then out of the blue he was married. I don't think most people even realized he was dating her. Why should he have to tell anyone anything about that? It's none of anyone's business. She still remains a mystery, the only thing that tabloids could find out about her was from her resume on LinkedIn and a couple benign tweets. Neither of them tweeted about the marriage. I really highly doubt his wife is embarrassed to be with an A list, adorable actor. Other celebs tend to keep that sort of thing quiet too. It's not weird. I find it refreshing. I think he should keep it a secret. Enough is enough.
Tucker I've been incredibly impressed by Better Call Saul. I had low expectations.
The acting, writing, character development, cinematography, all so well done. They really are taking this just as seriously as Breaking Bad, and creating another magnum opus.
I really like his pseudo law partner/friend the pretty blonde. Reminds me of lawyers I know. I am intrigued, and wondering if they have some sort of past, or perhaps a future.
Jon kind of brushed off the filming thing. I think he knows that there won't be much filming of the kids in the future. If he takes Kate to court over it, it just creates publicity for her and she'll use that to go on talk shows (if any will still have her) to "set the record straight". Helps keep her in the public eye. He has set the record straight that he did not agree to them being filmed, it is illegal (got that, TLC?), and now he'll stay quiet and let Kate and the kids' filming days fade into oblivion. It's just a matter of time, especially with no sob stories for Kate to use to get in the press.
The sheeple are just furious that Jon got a press interview and Kate didn't, aren't they?
I really like his pseudo law partner/friend the pretty blonde. Reminds me of lawyers I know. I am intrigued, and wondering if they have some sort of past, or perhaps a future.
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He's in love with her big time, but she *thinks* where she belongs is with the Gordon Gecko set, not with Saul.
I wonder if Saul's "Breaking Bad" moment has something to do with her.
When I was in the marching band in school "fall out" meant to break formation. Now I usually hear it as meaning "lost consciousness" or "passed out". Sometimes abbreviated as DFO, for Done Fell Out.
Hope everyone had a great St. Patrick's Day, and didn't indulge in too much green beer. I've stuck to green rumspringa, personally.
Slainte
O'Readerlady
Some people don't want to be in the public eye. Has nothing to do with being embarrassed. They cannot grasp this.
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There's not much that they can grasp, except their own tails when they need to leave their droppings. Perhaps the woman has requested privacy. She deserves that. Why do the sheeple think that this is any of their business?
Moreover, they just don't seem to understand that nobody except the parties involved knows what is in the court agreement. I am sick and tired of hearing that Jon should do this and do that, fight for his kids, and take her to court. We don't now how much he has done. What we do know is that it's exhausting to do so, and you can only do so much when you come to terms with the fact that it's draining...both physically and with your bank account. It may be frustrating as heck to the point of wanting to pull your hair out. Sometimes, though, as in the case with Sylvia, you just have to know that you've done what you can do and with Kate's legal eagles and money in back of her, no matter what he does, he's not going to win. Many times that's how the manila cookie crumbles.
Some of the Jon haters don't see it this way. They think that you fight for your kids no matter what, and if you don't want them filmed, you use whatever resources you have to prevent it. Unfortunately, that looks good on paper (or in tweets and posts) but the bottom line is that there comes a time when you just have to throw in the towel.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4m4 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 NO...40 is NOT OLD! And U have gr8 taste in TV shows! U & I would not be fighting over the #Remote! #OnTheSamePage 😋
Oh. My. Word.This is something that two people in love would say to one another. It's similar to a conversation in "You've Got Mail:"
Kathleen Kelly: Joe...
Joe Fox: And you and I would have never been at war. And the only thing we'd fight about would be which video to rent on a Saturday night.
Kathleen Kelly: Well, who fights about that?
Joe Fox: Well, some people. Not us.
Kathleen Kelly: We would never.
Joe Fox: If only.
Kate, hide the bird, hide the fish, hide the dog. Hide Steve.
Christian Malinowski @ChrisMalinowski 30m30 minutes ago
The Walton's neighbor girl still makes me angry to this day! What was her name??? RT @Kateplusmy8 I watch The Waltons w as much excitement
The Waltons had a neighbor girl? I remember Nellie, but that was LHOTP.
She doesn't need to hide Steve. Gladys doesn't swing that way.
angie said...25
going to 'fallout' ...means to laugh your off.
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In the south we say, I bout fell out.
Or, I just bout fell out.
I wonder how many cans of vanilla beans does Milo put in her Hummus? #15CansOfSpice #KateHasANiceSpiceRack
#Size15Cup
"This mom is #Depleted! #DoItAllOverAgainTomorrow" --
yikes, you mean she had a rough day and has to do it again
tomorrow? Why, it's almost like someone with a job! You
know, 9 - 5, 5 days a week, 50 days a year. What the
mediocre do.
stuckinkansas @tkgun73 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 Greys is my favorite show. So addicted yo my guilt pleasure. Now when I watch it Im gonna say I watch with Mady & Cara. Lol
What in the name of Olaf (sorry, I've watched Frozen way too many times) is wrong with these sheeple? They think that they are part of Kate's family. This is so very creepy, maybe even beyond creepy.
Someone on twitter said Jon needs to get his own house in order before trying to 'fix' PA. Gotta agree. With his past, who would take him seriously?
I get the feeling from posters here, that you PA folk are not dumb or ignorant people.
All This Is That said... 33
Great. Now I'm O'hungry for cupcakes, preferably chocolate or red velvet. Manila will just make me think of Gladys and I don't want to do that while I'm eating.
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Well I suppose you could just grab an O'Henry bar for now.
ba da bing ba da boom ")
I don't see how Jon's so called pass would stop him from winning and election.
Maybe I'm missing something.
Is it because he liked to party?-(Yea no government official has never done that)
Is it because he supposedly slept around-(Again no government official has never done that)
IMO Jon hasn't done anything that any other official hasn't done or been accused of doing so what's the problem?
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We don't know that for sure. "This door swings both ways. It's marked in and out." Apologies to Herman's Hermits!
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Favorite musicians of all time? Manilla Ice. At least that's what we call them up here in the far North. Bwhahahahaha!
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The sheeple are just furious that Jon got a press interview and Kate didn't, aren't they? 39
If I were a bettin' woman, my money would say that Katie's not pleased either.
What's ironic Chef is that voters might actually appreciate that Jon is open about who he is instead of trying to be so perfect like other politicians only to have skeletons in their closets. Elections are funny things and voters respond to things that are counterintuitive.
What Jon has done compared to some of the Chicago politicians or big dynasties like the Clintons is nothing and certainly wouldn't prevent someone from being elected.
Someone on twitter said Jon needs to get his own house in order before trying to 'fix' PA. Gotta agree. With his past, who would take him seriously?
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This isn't a national election. I don't see what your own house has to do with anything.
I think it'll come down to first the kind of money he can fundraise, and whether he can speak about the issues with credibility and get various interest groups to endorse him, which in turn delivers votes. Assuming he runs Democrat, he would also be wise to settle himself in a district where people will vote that way. There are a laundry list of D-list celebrities with various pasts who have gotten themselves elected because they were able to raise the money and nail the issues. Voters might actually respond to an every-guy who likes to have a few drinks at the end of the day, chows down on pizza at the local restaurant and attends community events with his children, and is not afraid to be himself, flaws and all. That probably won't win you national elections, but state elections are a different ballgame and every-men and women can get a foot in the door there. That's how Sarah Palin did it. Local, local, local. Her background is very mediocre. She worked her way up.
But, if he can't show the voters he is credible and speak about issues they care about, he won't go anywhere.
Someone on twitter said Jon needs to get his own house in order before trying to 'fix' PA. Gotta agree. With his past, who would take him seriously?
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Sometimes it's those who you least suspect would do a good job are the ones who roll up their sleeves, get right down with the locals, know their needs and what they want done, and then they do it. Grassroots politics and all that.
O'Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 57
This isn't a national election. I don't see what your own house has to do with anything.
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I think the "Jon needs to get his own house in order" is meant as the old idiom. In other words, get your act together.
"Put one's house in order"
Fig. to put one's business or personal affairs into good order. (As if one were cleaning one's house. See also put one's own house in order."
O'PJ
I see Kate is playing her teasing games again. Did a lot, learned a lot & listened a lot. She did all this while kids were in school. So, either Kates been filming and met or was on the phone with TLC or Kate was on the phone with the lawyers. She most certainly did or has been doing something, now the tease crap.
Ah, is that how you meant it? He had made a comment about having gotten a duplex so I assumed it was in reference to that.
In any case I think he needs to get things "in order" too whatever that means. But I also don't see him ever pleasing those who can't stand him either no matter how "in order" his life is.
It is not St. Patty's Day but St. Paddy's day!
Erin go bragh
getoftweeter said... 61
I see Kate is playing her teasing games again. Did a lot, learned a lot & listened a lot. She did all this while kids were in school. So, either Kates been filming and met or was on the phone with TLC or Kate was on the phone with the lawyers.
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Or, more likely, she heard about Jon's magazine interview and has to try and one-up him.
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I wish the best for Jon and I also wish he would find a nice home for himself and the kids to stay in.
I wish Jon would find a stable job/career that he can grow in and stay in.
I wish the best for the 8 kids cause having both Jon&Kate as parents must be exhausting I wish peace for them.
Love the eggcorn word! That's what TFW does all the time!
I actually think Jon might have a good chance of getting elected to something. His platform could be privacy rights. It 's kind of an 'in' topic right now, I've heard. :-)
He's friendly, open, interested in people. Relatable. Maybe start with something local that doesn't take a bunch of money to run a campaign.
You guys are really making me laugh today...o'whoever you are.
OT Hampton university won the first round ncaa basketball game against the Manhattan Jaspers. Big upset, Hampton won the MEAC conference but had a 15-16 win loss coming in to playoffs. Now for a reward they get to play... Kentucky! Unbeaten Kentucky. Oh well, at least they won the one game.Kentucky is kind of a juggernaut, and they will win the title unless something happens like all the players get food poisoning right before a game.
chefsummer, I couldn't agree more!
I wish Jon and the kids the best. They deserve it. The emotional and physical abuse that they have suffered with that sociopath's hand and mouth is mindboggling.
So, TFW learned a lot and listened a lot yesterday.
Hopefully, it was a phone call from People and she listened to them tell her that they were not going to do a 40th birthday cover and she learned that she is not that relevant to People anymore!
"This mom is #Depleted! #DoItAllOverAgainTomorrow" --
yikes, you mean she had a rough day and has to do it again
tomorrow? Why, it's almost like someone with a job! You
know, 9 - 5, 5 days a week, 50 days a year. What the
mediocre do.
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Maybe this means she had to listen to her nanny/maid/chef/gardener on how to run her household, since she's never had to do it. Maybe they all quit since they don't know how to help her.
Irish granny said... 63
Erin go bragh
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Or bragh-less. Maybe that's what sKate meant when she said she got a good bragh.
(back to) PJ
getoftweeter said... 61
I see Kate is playing her teasing games again. Did a lot, learned a lot & listened a lot. She did all this while kids were in school. So, either Kates been filming and met or was on the phone with TLC or Kate was on the phone with the lawyers. She most certainly did or has been doing something, now the tease crap.
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She does that a lot, doesn't she? She desperately wants people to be speculating about what she's doing, and drops those cryptic messages whenever she thinks she's not getting enough attention. She's probably jealous of all the attention Milo is getting (from her recent idiotic comments), and wants to turn the spotlight back to herself.
loving the love O' to the Irish today, but can't put an O' to my Irish half, I is a Gillespie, LOL
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Couldn't resist... Here is my interpretation of Milo and Fall out boy http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=fall+out+boy&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=07B549BA10AE9CE9073807B549BA10AE9CE90738
franky
Back to the Irish. O' I am black Irish, as my father was, , my siblbings are not afflicted, lol, bonny hair and clear eyes the lot of them
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-black-irish.htm#didyouknowout
but we are the best to trap that elusive leprechaun, and yes, I have chased the end of a rainbow in my truck (still have him in my house...he is kind, just loves stealing one sock)
franky
O'redbird said... 69
So, TFW learned a lot and listened a lot yesterday.
Hopefully, it was a phone call from People and she listened to them tell her that they were not going to do a 40th birthday cover and she learned that she is not that relevant to People anymore!
March 18, 2015 at 3:34 AM
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People Magazine was on the Today show highlighting the family who had quadruplets, and the mother died, leaving Dad to raise them.
People rep. said they're being featured in the magazine, and they hope to follow the children as they grow and reach milestones.
The Gosselin's time is running out now. There's nothing left to tell and not much left to see. Nothing particularly unique or noteworthy, anyway.
The kids are overall, amazingly healthy, average amongst their peers and unfortunately, just another bunch of kids from a broken home.
Kate's scandals? What else can grab the headlines?. She's pretty much covered it all. Kate's reinventing herself?
I think she's pretty much settled into her Barbie mold at this point.
That's not to say that there wont be the occasional article and cover spot, and of course, a TLC special "season", but the story has run its course.
Or, more likely, she heard about Jon's magazine interview and has to try and one-up him.
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Yupe.
I expected a negative story to come come about Jon soon or some lame/positive come out about KK soon..Which one will it be we'll see.
Sherry Baby said... 43
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4m4 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 NO...40 is NOT OLD! And U have gr8 taste in TV shows! U & I would not be fighting over the #Remote! #OnTheSamePage ��
Oh. My. Word.This is something that two people in love would say to one another. It's similar to a conversation in "You've Got Mail."
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Completely agree, Sherry Baby. Milo's creepy factor just keeps going up! It does sound eerily similar to the "You've Got Mail" conversation. Milo really pictures herself on the sofa (um, loveseat?) with Kate, doesn't she? So weird!
If Jon is looking for something to motivate him into a run for public office, he can always try family court reform. He probably won't be lacking for words on that topic.
Kate's scandals? What else can grab the headlines?
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If she's TFM's mistress she can play that card..But who would really care now.
Tucker's Mom said... 76
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I agree. TFW and her kids will get a show once or twice a year, if that.
So many newer shows, so she will not get as much recognition. Should be trying to find a supplemental job, but never will, as filming her kids is her life no matter how poorly she or the kids act. She just can't let go.And apparently, has no prospects of her own.
Sorry, but Jon is nowhere near being a public figure. JMO
Re: Jon."even though politics is kind of like entertainment" And he says he has a brand. Idk about this.He's not a bad person, but to me, comes across as uninformed. Not sure how effective he'd be.But you never know.
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Irish granny said... 63
Erin go bragh
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Or bragh-less. Maybe that's what sKate meant when she said she got a good bragh.
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Probably a summer session of filming, but with all of the new shows on this network, they will be testing them out as well. Whether TFW wants to believe it or not, all other shows will be viewed for ratings, and that is what will count.
I don't think she has a plan involved for future earnings other than her show.
Yes, Tucker's Mom, I saw the story on the quads. Heartbreaking but there is such joy, hope and LIFE with those babies!
TFW and her 40th shouldn't even be on People's radar with stories like this!
Even if she did get on the cover for a 40th, it will just validate everyone's suspicions of all the cosmetic work and LYING about it that she has done up to this point. The difference in her look from the one when she just had the tups with the hospital bands around her wrist and she is sitting down with a striped polo shirt on to long blond hair clip ons, botox, and who knows what else done to her face is
Night and Day!
Yeah, go ahead. Validate us!
Jennifer Garner was on the Today Show today and she said she was going to get to cook with Ina Garten very soon. She had her people ask Ina's people if she cook could with her and it was her dream. Jennifer is a good cook they say. Ina said, No. Just like she did to the 3 year old boy, Enzo who has cancer. Then 3 years later, he still has cancer and Make a Wish tried again and asked Ina if she would cook with him and she said No again! MAW begged him to go swim with the dolphins and he said, no, I want to cook with Ina. He and his mom had watched her cook while he was taking chemo treatments.
I think that Enzo thought of Ina on the level of Barney the Dinosaur.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/17/entertainment/feat-ashley-judd-twitter-trolls/index.html
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Now this I can respect. Ashley Judd tweeted something negative about a basketball team and the internet freaked out, she got a lot of inappropriate tweets and name calling directed her way over the past 24 hours.
She says she is contacting law enforcement and will file police reports today.
I think she's going to have a hard time showing why someone can't, under the constitution and given that she's a public figure, call her the C word if they want to, but other actual threats, I say have at it. Have our law enforcement investigate and if they find a crime, prosecute, definitely. That's what they are for.
People Magazine was on the Today show highlighting the family who had quadruplets, and the mother died, leaving Dad to raise them.
People rep. said they're being featured in the magazine, and they hope to follow the children as they grow and reach milestones.
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People also has an article about the quadruplets dad on their website. There will be in article about him and his family in the next issue of People.
Included in the article, is a picture of the next issue of People which goes on sale this Friday, and guess who is NOT on the cover?
http://www.people.com/article/carlos-morales-raising-quadruplets-hope-after-tragedy
The next issue after this one would come out the Friday before Kate's birthday. I still don't think they are going to do a cover or story about her 40th, but we'll have to wait and see.
Regarding Kate's tweet about listening and learning things--maybe that's about the so-called "business" deal that she's supposedly doing with Jeff Prescott.
Admin, I wondered when the Ashley Judd topic would show up here. So someone called her bad names on twitter. Boo hoo. She said the other team played dirty. Should they have her arrested and charged?
As to actual threats? Have at it.
I wish this was something the sheeple would figure out.
PJ
"Hey, guys, in case you are dwelling on my ex's latest interview article and not focusing on ME, ME, ME, I forgot to put a mug under my Keurig this morning when I woke up at zero dark thirty!!!!!!!"
Seriously....you can almost picture her doing handstands in the corner to get attention. smh
Admin, I wondered when the Ashley Judd topic would show up here. So someone called her bad names on twitter. Boo hoo. She said the other team played dirty. Should they have her arrested and charged?
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Exactly. She made a pretty serious accusation at a sports team and should have known that would upset people. They're going to call her a C, it's inevitable. Guess what, it's not illegal. In poor taste yes. Illegal, no. Free speech protects poor taste whether she agrees or not. It especially protects poor taste when you're talking about a celeb. Too bad for her.
Now apparently some crossed the line into actual threats including sexual threats and for those, by all means please involve law enforcement. As for the others, sorry Ashley. I love the saying play stupid games win stupid prizes. You trashed a sports team on Twitter. What did you THINK was going to happen?
Re: Ashley Judd's comment about Arkansas playing 'dirty'.
I have not read any of the offending tweets she received as a result of her maligning Arkansas.
But, she's gotta realize that SHE offended a huge Arkansas fan base, so she's going to catch some shit from it.
She wants to offend Arkansas, but oh hell no, someone better not say anything to her ol' princess self.
She needs to keep her negative opinion about Arkansas in her little pea brain.
(and no, I am not an Arkansas resident, or affiliated with the university in any capacity)...just sick of all these 'celebs' running their mouths about people and getting butt-hurt when someone throws some mud back.
She started it.
Admin (#87), you mean Ashley Judd didn't just sic Bullyville on
these people, or have her fans post their home addresses?
Is she living in the stone age?
I wonder if TFW's challenging day yesterday had to do with
whatever business deal she may/may not be doing with her maybe/maybe not beau Jeff. I can't imagine any other situation
in which she'd actually open her ears and listen to someone
else talk. Remember, this is a woman who tweeted during
parent/teacher conferences. I think most of the time when
people talk, she either hears "blah blah blah" (which she
admitted when meeting the dog breeder), or circus music.
The circus music being most appropriate, considering how
she's decided to place her children on display for other
people's entertainment.
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I seriously doubt People would do two covers in a row about a multiple family. Nobody cares she is turning 40.
Her cryptic tweet could be about that make believe charity she and the wife beater are starting up.
"What Jon has done compared to some of the Chicago politicians or big dynasties like the Clintons is nothing and certainly wouldn't prevent someone from being elected."
Except, most of them keep their private lives private if art all possible. They may do things as bad or worse than Jon, but we seldom hear about it. Then there is Jon, whose live in girlfriend accused him of masturbating on a TV show for all to see. Also, not many politicians have been the star on a reality show for years..a show that show cased his wife leading him around by the balls..not really leader material in many people's eye.
Irish granny said... 63
It is not St. Patty's Day but St. Paddy's day!
Erin go bragh
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Meh, Patty's/Paddy's, Manila/Vanilla. What's the dif?
Just kidding. Of course you're right Granny. I thought it looked wrong when I typed "Patty's" so shame on me.
Thanks for the correction :)
I would call what Kate does attention-seeking behavior. She hems and haws and then I have no doubt sits back and reads all the responses if there are any. It's really sad and probably part of her personality disorder.
The consensus on Bill Handel's radio show this morning was, Ashley Judd, just get off Twitter and you wouldn't have this problem in the first place. It's interesting to see mainstream radio/public taking a similar position that many of us here tend to.
Except, most of them keep their private lives private if art all possible. They may do things as bad or worse than Jon, but we seldom hear about it.
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What's interesting though is that might work in his FAVOR, which is what some of us are trying to say.
I think most people realize many politicians are not perfect. To see someone actually owning who they are, warts and all, and being real and upfront? Some voters might find it to be a breath of fresh air. He has the every-guy, non-pretentious thing going for him. It's a matter of whether voters would respond to that or scoff.
Ashley did start it and if she is really a sports fan she should have known better.
I have no problem with her reporting to law enforcement those who made true threats to her and her family. But when she whines about people calling her the C word, I have to shake my head. When you insult someone's sports team many people see that as just as bad as saying that word. As a sports fan she should darn well know this. To her credit, she did delete her offensive tweet, but not after crying like a baby over all the hate. And gender violence? Oh good grief. It's a bunch of freaks on twitter probably living in their mothers' basements, nothing more nothing less.
We had this conversation before and I tend to think that celebs need to accept the reality of twitter. It's unique structure allows for this sort of thing in a way other forms of social media don't. Instagram, for instance, gives you so much control over who can be on your timeline and who can tag you, this simply would never happen absent your own negligence. Twitter is never going to be a nice English rose tea party, it's not structured that way. It's become a square peg round hole situation and these people are going to turn themselves in circles trying to insist it be something it is not. Your best bet really is to get off twitter, as countless other celebs have done. It's the only practical solution.
Formerly Duped said... 83
Re: Jon."even though politics is kind of like entertainment" And he says he has a brand. Idk about this.He's not a bad person, but to me, comes across as uninformed. Not sure how effective he'd be.But you never know.
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I was listening to the radio in the car just now, and apparently Trump is still exploring the possibility of running for president.
Oy vey.
Maybe he could put Jon on his ticket.
Its unique structure. Forgive me. :)
"What's interesting though is that might work in his FAVOR, which is what some of us are trying to say.
I think most people realize many politicians are not perfect. To see someone actually owning who they are, warts and all, and being real and upfront? Some voters might find it to be a breath of fresh air. He has the every-guy, non-pretentious thing going for him. It's a matter of whether voters would respond to that or scoff."
That is true. For me though, I would think, "He can't even cope with his wife/ex-wife, so how could he cope with other politicians with different values, and get what is important to me passed?" Others may certainly feel different, I will grant you that.
I too think Jon needs to get his house in order before doing anything. How many jobs has he had? And how many periods of unemployment? (Please don't compare to Kate's unemployment up because I am only talking about Jon here.) He goes from job to job, talking about his brand and trying to capitalize on his name. He seems to think he should be starting each thing at much higher than entry level, because of his name/notoriety. He just hasn't shown the stick-to-it-iveness that public service requires. It's a long commitment.
Near us, there's a small city that had a complete unknown elected for mayor. He was backed by the developer who wants to ruin the town by building 5,000 houses in a two-lane town. He was elected because the people who live there now don't want this development.
Well, long story short, things heated up immediately after he took oath. He made some ridiculous decisions upon taking office (unrelated to development). When he came under fire, he quit. He quit the job he was elected to do and the little city had no mayor until it could be sorted out, and it took a while. He was in office less than three months and it took WAY longer than that to appoint someone else. So now they have a mayor pro tem until election time rolls around again. He just walked away,
Jon is not leadership material in my humble opinion. I sure wouldn't vote for him, not even for school board or city council, where he should be STARTING if he's serious about running for office.
Joy in Virginia said...
OT Hampton university won the first round ncaa basketball game against the Manhattan Jaspers. Big upset, Hampton won the MEAC conference but had a 15-16 win loss coming in to playoffs. Now for a reward they get to play... Kentucky! Unbeaten Kentucky. Oh well, at least they won the one game.Kentucky is kind of a juggernaut, and they will win the title unless something happens like all the players get food poisoning right before a game.
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Proud UK alumna here! GO WILDCATS!
Sorry, I meant to say in my last post that the mayor candidate was backed by someone going up AGAINST the developer who wanted to exploit the town by over-developing. What I said originally didn't make sense. Sorry.
Your best bet really is to get off twitter, as countless other celebs have done. It's the only practical solution.
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Exactly, but some people use Twitter like a Life Alert button. They can't live without it.
PJ's momma said... 105
I too think Jon needs to get his house in order before doing anything. How many jobs has he had? And how many periods of unemployment?
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I like Jon and I agree as I said be for imo Jon needs to find a final home for himself and the kids to stay in and he needs to find a career he can stay in.
Then once he does this he can venture out with doing positive things.
God Trump for president...please no.
Winsomeone said... 97
"What Jon has done compared to some of the Chicago politicians or big dynasties like the Clintons is nothing and certainly wouldn't prevent someone from being elected."
Except, most of them keep their private lives private if art all possible.
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Your "art" auto-correct made me laugh, because did anyone see the what that artist put in Pres. Bill Clinton's presidential portrait? The official Pres. portrait?
A "shadow" of Monica Lewinski's infamous blue dress!
Can you imagine? What was going through that guy's head?!
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Thanks, chefsummer, but I don't mean his 'house' house, as he has a place to live, I mean his LIFE. Stable/consistent/reliable employment, for starters. And what happened to him staying single to figure out who he is? He's already living with someone - his (at least) fourth live-in since the divorce?
I know many don't have issue with that, but my dad was married five times and had many girlfriends too. Like Jon, he fell in love and moved very quickly. It is very hurtful and confusing to kids (and even adult kids) to have people dragged in and out of their lives, whether it's nannies at their own house, or women and in some cases their children/pets. You build relationships and then they are gone forever. And you are supposed to put on your happy face when the next one comes, but inside, you are girding for their departure and afraid to get close. It can cause trust issues. Speaking from experience here.
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"What Jon has done compared to some of the Chicago politicians or big dynasties like the Clintons is nothing and certainly wouldn't prevent someone from being elected."
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Or the Mayor of Toronto who does crack.
OT fidosmommy, I think the only shock would be if Kentucky lost before the final four.
Their team is not cocky or arrogant, they just play good basketball.
There is a miniscule chance that they might lose to someone in the final four, depending on who they are against. I think they will just zip on thru their region like a bulldozer.
We VCU fans are thrilled they are in the NCAA playoffs, but the committee sends them to OREGON? AGAIN? SERIOUSLY?
at least they don't have to play Kentucky!
It does seem that Jon has a rather inflated sense of self-importance.
He seems to think that he can just waltz into an industry and start near the top (with no experience, education, or skill set) just because he's Jon Gosselin.
That brand thing that he keeps talking about...he doesn't seem to realize that he has no brand. Other than being the ex-husband of that Gozland woman.
Notoriety, yes. Brand, no. He's confusing the two terms.
This CA case that just came out sheds some light on why a parent can't go back and forth to family court with the same complaints over and over:
Family law contempt proceedings are civil matters for purposes of the vexatious litigant statutes. Trial court did not err in declaring father a vexatious litigant, based on his conduct in child custody proceedings, in which he attempted to raise previously rejected arguments in 15 separate filings, including five contempt motions, giving credence to mother’s testimony that he threatened to "grind [her] down" if she rejected his custody proposals.
In re Marriage of Rifkin and Carty - filed March 6, 2015, First District, Div. Four
Cite as 2015 S.O.S. 1362
Full text http://www.metnews.com/sos.cgi?0315//A139484
This has been addressed before, but it's still the same story: Jon still struggling to make a living.
Here's a guy that had a wealthy, educated parent that could have paid his way through college, but Jon decided his time was better spent backpacking like a frat boy.
Of course a college education isn't a guarantee for a successful career and the perks ($, insurance, stability, etc), but it never hurt anyone.
Here Jon is, a decade after he would have graduated college, still floundering trying to find his way. I bet he wishes now he had gone to college. He and Kate both stress that all the kids will go to college- I guess they both see the value of an education since neither of them has a degree. (and sorry, I don't see Kate's education on par with a D-1 university nursing degree).
Seriously....you can almost picture her doing handstands in the corner to get attention. smh
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With Zorro stuffed in her ample bosom. Gotta get the bird in there somewhere.
PJ's momma said... 112
Oh I know what you meant..lol Jon still needs to stop moving around so darn much.
I'm sure the kids are tired of dad having a new home every few weeks.
I am willing to bet that Kate is not going to be on the cover of People mag for her 40th. It's just not a big enough story. She may get a small mention, but how desperate does People have to be to run a has-been like her on the cover just for turning 40? There are plenty of current, relevant stories to go with.
I think there is something very final about her going back to TLC. To me, it says that she realizes that she is never going to find anyone else to film her and the kids, and she's willing to accept whatever TLC will give her. TLC unceremoniously dumped her when she was unprepared for it, causing her to "freak out" and worry about the future. If she had any hope of finding anything else, anywhere else, I don't think she would go back. But she did, and now she has to play by TLC's rules. TLC can walk away, she can't. Year after year after year of begging for a new show got her nowhere. She pretends to be so happy about her "job" but the fact is--she gets it, even if she won't admit it. She knows her glory days are over and her prospects are very, very limited. And it's all her fault.
Layla #120 said.. "And it's all her fault."
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I agreed with everything you said until your last sentence.
It's all Jon's fault.
LOLOLOL
I'm sure the kids are tired of dad having a new home every few weeks.
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In how many places has he lived in the last few years? He was in an apartment, then moved to a rented house in Mohnton and now he's in a duplex near Wernersville.
Mel siad (115)...
He seems to think that he can just waltz into an industry and start near the top (with no experience, education, or skill set) just because he's Jon Gosselin.
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You're right. I think TLC spoiled both Jon and Kate far too much, made them feel like they were so special, that they deserved the world handed to them on a "golden platter". Neither one of them wants to actually work toward anything, they just want to go straight to the top. You see that with Kate wanting to be a talk show host but not putting in the hard work to prepare for such a career. Jon, too thinks he is special and that he deserves more than others. It's sad in a way, because neither one will ever recapture what they had before, and neither of them seems capable of working hard to build something new for themselves.
One thing that keeps me from giving Jon too much credit is the memory of an interview he did. He was sitting in his car--I think it was the black BMW he had for awhile--and someone was talking to him through the wondow. I remember him saying that people need to leave them alone, stop questioning their parenting, and he said, "Look, my kids are marketable". That shocked me. Marketable??? Ketchup is marketable. Crocs are marketable. Not kids.
But...he is, without a doubt, the better parent. Let's hope he settles down a bit and makes better choices in the future.
He seems to think that he can just waltz into an industry and start near the top (with no experience, education, or skill set) just because he's Jon Gosselin.
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I don't see him doing this with the DJ job. He is starting at the bottom, trying to work his way into a higher position, with more gigs. Isn't that the goal of most people who finally find something they want to do? They want to go up, not down.
I think reality t.v. tends to attract pie in the sky people with pipe dreams and perhaps not a very good sense of their own limitations. Grounded people don't usually seek out reality t.v. in the first place, it just doesn't appeal to those folks.
For people who think very rational, practical, that sort of personality can be baffling. Doesn't mean living that way is wrong, just different and for some, hard to understand.
Layla said... 120
''....Year after year after year of begging for a new show got her nowhere. She pretends to be so happy about her "job" but the fact is--she gets it, even if she won't admit it. She knows her glory days are over and her prospects are very, very limited. And it's all her fault.''
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I agree that she gets it, but in her mind IT IS ALL JON'S FAULT!! !!!!!!
I remember him saying that people need to leave them alone, stop questioning their parenting, and he said, "Look, my kids are marketable". That shocked me. Marketable??? Ketchup is marketable. Crocs are marketable. Not kids.
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I think it was Dr. Phil (and others) who put that notion into his head. Wasn't he the one who told the Gosselins that they had to protect their "brand?" I always thought that was odd...what "brand" and exactly what *is* their brand? Marketable kids?
I don't see him doing this with the DJ job.
At first I was going to say I agree with you...but he is already talking about exponentially growing. (Not that dreams and goals aren't good, but he seems to base them on not much of anything.)
Gosselin also added that he has big plans for his future, as he would like to go international with his gigs...
From his restaurant interview:
As for working at the restaurant, Gosselin is committed. He's been doing double shifts and is constantly learning new skills - such as the sushi making. "I'm really devoted to doing this," he told me.
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I have a feeling, a really good feeling," he said. "This is like the first time in five years that I've had a good feeling, that this is going to work
OTH, he did say he was tired of job hopping in reference to the dj thing.
I don't really mind job hopping that much, if it was in the same or a related industry. But his job hopping is in vastly different industries. It makes him look like he has no idea what he wants, and can't hold down a job besides.
Although....with his job history I bet it *is* hard to get a job in any industry and he has to just take what he can get. Much like his ex-wife.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2h 2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @Keurig Shall we blame this on #1 Lack of sleep #2 Stress #3 Having 8kids #4 Getting old or #5 All of the above! LOL #KiddingU
This is what I despise, yes despise, about people like Milo. She spends days, weeks, months putting Kate on a most perfect mom pedestal and then with one passive-aggressive tweet trivializes Kate's pathetic plight and zings her a good one.
I'm not defending Kate. I'm pointing out how untrustworthy people like Milo are. She described herself as "most aggravatingest" and it's true. She's the kind of person you could never trust with a confidence, because one day she'd throw what you had confided to her right back in your face, perhaps publically, and then laugh and say...just kidding. Her marriage is based on both she and LOM teasin' and kiddin' and being aggravatin'. It's Milo's personality and it sounds like LOM is the same. I've known people ike this. I couldn't get away far and fast enough.
I don't really mind job hopping that much, if it was in the same or a related industry. But his job hopping is in vastly different industries. It makes him look like he has no idea what he wants, and can't hold down a job besides.
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I don't think this is unusual at all. I've seen college kids graduate with a degree in one particular field and land a job in an entirely different one. Sometimes this is because there are no opportunities in their chosen career and they take whatever is available at the time. They find that they really aren't happy there and something else may interest them at the time and they move on to that area.
Jon isn't a college kid starting out, though, but he may have interests in totally different areas. He had a job in IT, then restaurants, and now music, the latter of which may have been his passion all along. It's not an unwritten rule that one must stick with one area of interest when there may be openings out there in something you find particularly appealing.
Mel, I agree with you, and he got this job by tagging along with his girlfriend, and then taking over her gigs when she left. It sort of fell in his lap. To me, it's like that old adage about finding a mate: Is he Mr. Right or Mr. Right Now? DJing sounds more like Mr. Right Now or a second job.
Milo's comment about fighting over the remote is about as creepy as she's ever gotten. I wonder how much more bizarre she could possibly get. How far in delusion does one go until the person finally snaps, and what happens when she does? To what degree will she take this obsession?
"Mel, I agree with you, and he got this job by tagging along with his girlfriend, and then taking over her gigs when she left. It sort of fell in his lap."...131.
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Is this objectionable? I would think that there are quite a few people who find employment because of an association with other people. Isn't this the purpose of networking? I know that's not what Jon did here, but should he be criticized because he was offered a job that his former girlfriend once had?
"Her marriage is based on both she and LOM teasin' and kiddin' and being aggravatin'. It's Milo's personality and it sounds like LOM is the same. I've known people ike this. I couldn't get away far and fast enough." ...`129.
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True, and if it would be just Gladys and hubs, it would be a different story. They can aggravate each other until the cows come home. Every pot has a lid. They may get off on this, and it's how things are in that home. However, when you involve others in this it's no longer amusing, and at some point, she will do this to someone who just won't tolerate it. Perhaps that is why the neighbors moved leaving no contact information.
I wouldn't trust Milo with anything, and I hope that Kate has come to realize that Milo is not cute, not witty, and she just has to limit her interaction with her.
I was also thinking about Milo's fascination with Kate's body and beauty. I remember her saying that at one time she herself was smokin' hot. I just have a feeling that Milo looks at Kate, remembering that she was pretty way back when...before LOM, before kids. She knows that there is no going back, and so she lives vicariously through Kate. She looks at Kate and sees herself many years ago. She not only loves Kate, but she wants to be Kate.
I don't know. Just a thought now that I've recovered from last night's celebration at the local Irish pub, O'hangover's.
Serendipity said... 134
I wouldn't trust Milo with anything, and I hope that Kate has come to realize that Milo is not cute, not witty, and she just has to limit her interaction with her.
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And this is why Kate should consider her options: Either get off twitter or accept that possessive fans like Milo will dog you if you remain there. She has no clue how to read people. She hooks up with the creepiest wackjobs and then she can't make them go away like she could when TLC had her back.
I have no sympathy for her or for Milo. They deserve each other.
Tucker's Mom said... 1
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago
@GeeWhiz__ @Kateplusmy8 If the "older woman" Jon is dating turns out 2b #MargaretThatcher I'm going 2fall out!! #OlderWomanWithImportantJob
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Ummmmmmm.....
I hope not too, Milo, because that would be really weird to date a dead woman.
#vanillaenvelopes
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Hilarious.
Serendipity said... 134
Perhaps that is why the neighbors moved leaving no contact information.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Who knows how many people she has alienated with that teasin' and aggravatin' that she does. I bet she loves to play practical jokes and when the person she pulled one on gets angry, she says she's just kiddin' around and never figures out why she has no friends.
Oh, and yes, I caught my grammatical error after I got back from the grocery store. "She" should be "her." LOL
Formerly O'Duped said... 10
PatK said... 6
Just what does "I'm going 2fall out" mean? I don't speak Ewe.
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O'Hilarious!
Exactly what I was thinking. Who knows how many people she has alienated with that teasin' and aggravatin' that she does.
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Yes, Sue Buddy...not to mention the meddling. We see how nosy she is on Twitter, and how much butting in she does when it's none of her business. She can't stay out of Kate's life, answering for Kate, tweeting to those to whom Kate tweets. That would have to drive anyone nuts. You couldn't get away from it.
I certainly would hope that Kate has been advised that this is not a normal person and with someone like that, it's best to be nice, throw her a bone every so often, but don't become involved because you never know what she will do. I think that Milo would turn on you in a heartbeat if you ignored her or said something that she would find offensive. You can only go off and sulk for so long, but if you have that kind of anger built up inside, you're eventually going to blow.
Serendipity, that's what I meant about this job being Mr. Right Now, rather than Mr. Right. It fell in his lap, rather than him pursuing it. Nothing wrong with networking.
O'Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 37
Why do they think anyone should have to disclose who they are dating?
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Agreed, it is none of their O'Damn business.
You know what surprised me is the fact that Jon even married. The way it was described about his life up until Kate, he seemed to just enjoy drifting. It's like, how the heck did she tie him down and then have kids so quickly?
The way I feel is that Kate is not any more successful than Jon, she just gives off that impression with the big house, cars, a few TV gigs. She got most of the money from the divorce, but has not achieved anything since the TLC show to maintain the high income. At some point, the money has got to run out because she spends more than she takes in. And kids cost lots of money to raise. She ought to take a look at where Jon is today because it's where she will be eventually unless she finally realizes she will never earn such a high income again.
So did anyone besides Gladys take the bait last night when TFW
cryptically tweeted about her busy day?
So TFW will be 40 in 10 days. Who does she have in her life?
Steve, Jamie and Deanne are the only people she seems to be
close to. Steve and Deanne are on her payroll, and Jamie has
made money off the family by appearing on the show and getting
paid for her services. Who really and truly loves and cares about
her? Beth and Jodi seemed like wonderful, kind, loyal friends,
but they were kicked to the curb. She doesn't have a remotely
civil relationship with the father of her children. The idea that
any of us could be jealous of this woman is laughable.
AuntieAnn said... 108
Your best bet really is to get off twitter, as countless other celebs have done. It's the only practical solution.
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Exactly, but some people use Twitter like a Life Alert button. They can't live without it.
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Jon: I've fallen and Kate won't let me get up!
TLC stinks said... 142
You know what surprised me is the fact that Jon even married. The way it was described about his life up until Kate, he seemed to just enjoy drifting. It's like, how the heck did she tie him down and then have kids so quickly?
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My guess is Kate told him exactly how to propose to her once she had him securely clutched in her talons. Not only that, but I'm sure she had Jon thinking with his 'other brain' and I'm not talking about the one inside his skull.
I certainly would hope that Kate has been advised that this is not a normal person and with someone like that, it's best to be nice, throw her a bone every so often... 139
This is how intermittent reinforcement is defined. It is the most powerful form of reinforcement and will only encourage Milo.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/18/barely-famous-vh1-erin-sara-foster
I just saw a promo for this on Access Hollywood. They are doing a "reality" show which mocks reality show. It looks pretty good! They are the daughters of David Foster who I know from RHOBH as the current husband of Yolanda (who I adore).
Oh, and their dad used to be married to the Jenner boys' mom, so they are really poking fun at their whole family in a way. Except that David Foster has real talent and Yolanda was a model so they are not just famous for doing nothing.
This is how intermittent reinforcement is defined. It is the most powerful form of reinforcement and will only encourage Milo.
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What, then, should Kate do? Is it best to ignore Milo completely and hide the bunny? Is there really an answer since one doesn't know exactly what this person is capable of doing if shunned? Is it best to encourage her or discourage her? I'm really interested in the psychology of it all. Her obsession certainly seems to have gotten worse and is there any way to wean her off this Kate infatuation/love/lust?
"My guess is Kate told him exactly how to propose to her once she had him securely clutched in her talons. Not only that, but I'm sure she had Jon thinking with his 'other brain' and I'm not talking about the one inside his skull."
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lol!! But, .but, but. Goody claims he doesn't have one, because she heard this from Hailey and Kate Hudson!
You know what surprised me is the fact that Jon even married. The way it was described about his life up until Kate, he seemed to just enjoy drifting. 142
I think she "hit him like a freight train" to quote Joan Baez.
One thing that keeps me from giving Jon too much credit is the memory of an interview he did. He was sitting in his car--I think it was the black BMW he had for awhile--and someone was talking to him through the wondow. I remember him saying that people need to leave them alone, stop questioning their parenting, and he said, "Look, my kids are marketable". That shocked me. Marketable??? Ketchup is marketable. Crocs are marketable. Not kids.
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Oh, ouch! Horrible comment by Jon. And I generally like him.
What, then, should Kate do? Is it best to ignore Milo completely and hide the bunny? 149
Theoretically, ignoring Milo would result in an extinction burst (escalation of behavior).
HOWEVER, with no real knowledge of milo's mental status, other behavior is impossible to predict.
Rainbows, 149...
Those would be my questions, too. Seems that Kate would be damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't. If she plays it cool and engages Milo occasionally, she's encouraging her. If she ignores her, she's risking the Wrath of The Gladys and hiding the bunny would be advisable.
Theoretically, ignoring Milo would result in an extinction burst (escalation of behavior). 152
Meant to add, then a subsequent decrease.
Ok, lets just say that Jon is seriously considering a run for state representative. He has all of these hurdles to overcome:
He has been sued twice for breaking employment contracts. One was settled, although clearly TLC won in that they were able to prevent him from working in entertainment. The second time, (if true, because I don't recall seeing any kind of court files), he lost by default because he failed to respond to a summons. People here have claimed that, in the first case, Jon was protecting his kids, and, in the second case, the company that sued may be shady. But, lets not forget that, also in the last year, he was allegedly evicted from his house, for failing to pay rent in accordance with the rent-to-own contract that he had signed. Again, no proof, but just how hard are these so-called low information Pennsylvanians going to look at these issues? I mean isn't the definition of low-information the failure to look deeply into an issue?
How will all of these legal actions be viewed by the normal information good folks of Pennsylvania, who do not follow this story? I suppose some may see him as the anti-hero, but I tend to think that most people, who honor their commitments and pay the consequences of breaking agreements, will conclude that he is ethically challenged, has poor judgement, does not understand what a contract or agreement is, has entitlement issues, and/or has been repeatedly taken advantage of. It doesn't really matter if you believe one or all of those reasons, because, none of those traits are desirable in a representative.
In addition to his legal problems: his embarrassing appearance on Couples Therapy, ever-changing careers and flip-flopping public statements. What does he bring to the table that will overcome all that? Other than being famous for being famous, that is.
Yes, underdogs can win (see Malcolm Gladwell), and, in some situations, may even have an advantage. But, they have to bring something to the table in terms of character, ability and experience. Absent that, a ton of money and a hefty political machine would be required to spin all of the history that is out there for all to see.
The locals may not hold Jon responsible for much of the Gosselin drama, and they may have moved on from his behaviors around the time of the divorce. But, I bet they groan when he is in the spotlight.
They may like him, want him to succeed, appreciate his authenticity or enjoy having a beer with him. But, that doesn't mean that they will trust him to have a vote that will determine the future course of Pennsylvania and its citizens. It has absolutely nothing to do with liking or not liking the guy, or disagreeing with his life choices. Casting a vote means staking your own future on someone else. Who here would trust Jon Gosselin's judgement in shaping their own future?
Buehler?
PJs momma --thank you for sharing about what it was like to deal with your parent's frequent change of relationships. Living through that kind of instability is difficult for anyone, but especially for a child. Sadly, I am sure that some or all of the G8 will struggle with relationships. Neither of their parents have been role models for healthy relationships.
I don't think the average person has any idea of the history of the world according to Jon Gosselin nor cares. I trust most voters even low information ones would be most interested in where someone stands on the issues.
If you dig around Im sure you'd find most politicians have been sued before at least once. The deeper your pockets and more famous you get the more you get sued. Obama has. In fact he's being sued right now. I don't think his supporters think less of him for it.
Anyone see Top Five? There's a scene where Chris Rock runs from an accident for fear of being sued. Been there done that. Or seen it anyway!. Every time narcissist or their children so much as have a fender bender they have a 100,000 lawsuit on their hands. It is both tiring and embarrassing for the family. Don't like it don't become famous and wealthy.
The locals may not hold Jon responsible for much of the Gosselin drama, and they may have moved on from his behaviors around the time of the divorce. But, I bet they groan when he is in the spotlight.
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No groaning here! I don't think that you realize that Jon is not hated here, nor is he looked upon with contempt, disgust, as an exploiter. The same cannot be said about his ex. That's where you'll hear the groaning.
"Casting a vote means staking your own future on someone else. Who here would trust Jon Gosselin's judgement in shaping their own future?"
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Doesn't it always (voting is staking your future on someone else)? Many times it's like that proverbial box of chocolates.
He wouldn't be a candidate for governor, state senator or representative, or President. We're talking local rep, and I've voted for some who turned out to be doofi. I'd probably take a chance with him, but I most certainly would want to hear his platform and not blindly vote for him just because it's Jon.
Over said..." I'd probably take a chance with him, but I most certainly would want to hear his platform and not blindly vote for him just because it's Jon"
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If he shares the same stand on issues as I do, appears to be able to relate to the people on a personal level, is approachable and a good listener, I wouldn't give a darn how many times he changed careers.
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"Again, no proof, but just how hard are these so-called low information Pennsylvanians going to look at these issues? I mean isn't the definition of low-information the failure to look deeply into an issue?"
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Ouch, I hope that I am misinterpreting your statement here because it comes off as very condescending. I can assure you that we're not all low-information hicks who just vote for the sake of voting without doing our own research into the issues at hand.
Isn't he talking responding to Over in TFW County (iPad won't let me cut and paste). I thought he was talking about running for state representative. What other kind of local "rep" would there be? As a state representative, he would have a vote on extremely important issues that will absolutely effect Pennsylvanians lives and future.
I guess I'll stop guessing about what the locals think of him. I'm from Cook County in Chicago, originally, and now live in Seattle. I guess I don't share the Pennsylvania countryside point of view. I don't understand why the word
"hate" is always brought into the conversation. I never said that he was hated by the locals.
I can assure you that we're not all low-information hicks who just vote for the sake of voting without doing our own research into the issues at hand.
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Yes. From what I remember in Pennsylvania, like many states low information voters don't turn out for state elections in the first place unless it's a presidential year, and people generally vote on pretty strict party lines in that neck of the woods. I was a double major, the other being in poly sci major and I remember paying close attention to a couple of those elections. I'm sure I must have done an election project or two, writing articles, doing graphs, etc. Those were fun times in that state. It was definitely a party-line state at least a couple years ago. Based on their history, I just can't see anyone being overly shocked or turned off by a not-so-perfect every-man candidate. Do you follow PA politics and know what's gone on there? :) That's nothing! Seriously, Jon's past is but a blip on the radar compared to some of the corruption there. He needs, or it would really help, to be in a district that votes Democrat assuming he runs Dem, and he needs a lot of money to campaign, and he needs to know the issues and have positions on those issues that voters can get behind. If he can manage all of that, everything else won't really matter. It just won't.
Seems that Kate would be damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't. If she plays it cool and engages Milo occasionally, she's encouraging her. If she ignores her, she's risking the Wrath of The Gladys and hiding the bunny would be advisable. 153
And this one would be all Katie's fault.
That's nothing! Seriously, Jon's past is but a blip on the radar compared to some of the corruption there.
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Yes, we've had our share of it. It seemed like last year every time I turned around, an official was being investigated or resigned in the wake of a scandal! It was like...what is going on here? Is there anyone who can be trusted?
Most recently, the grand jury has recommended criminal charges be brought against Attorney General Kathleen Kane relating to perjury, obstruction of law, leaking information, among other charges. It's now being argued in the state Supreme Court.
Casting a vote means staking your own future on someone else. Who here would trust Jon Gosselin's judgement in shaping their own future?" 153
Whatever people's opinions are about how they might vote, this discussion has been thoughtful.
IIRC several years ago there were several sheeple who though Katie would make a good vice presidential candidate. Nuff said.
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Completely OT!!!!!!!!!
Our version of the SPCA called me back, finally...and it looks like Tobeé ( the name I gave him, not his number) and I may end up together. I am going to see him tomorrow after work to see if we get along..YAY!!! May I please ask you to pray for us
franky
Beuhler...Beuhler...
nope...I do hear an echo for some reason...must be a waste of space somewhere
franky
Tuckersmom, like Admin said, Kate violated a court order (filming the kids without Jon's ok or advance knowledge). So he could ask his attorney to file a motion to enforce the order, but the horse is already out the barn door. The family law judge could sanction Kate but the legal costs to prepare a motion, appear in court to argue the motion, and the end result is an award that just barely covers your attorney's fees and by the time your motion is heard, the episodes are already airing - well, it's a recipe for an ulcer. I think Jon has learned the hard way that his option are limited. However, Kate's own disastrous parenting is coming to bite her butt. 6 hormonal girls will be relentless. They've learned how to be demanding from the best.
I guess I don't share the Pennsylvania countryside point of view.
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Do you mean the view that we country bumpkins here share when we put on our Daisy Dukes, go running off to the polls, flip a coin, and just vote for the candidate who wins the toss? The best part of election day is coming home and drinking rumspringa behind the barn. Sometimes, though, we have to slop the pigs first and hope that the sheeple...er...sheep don't get to the rumspringa first! LOL!
On another note. I hope Kate didn't put away that precious snow blower. It was 62 yesterday, and another snow storm is headed this way tomorrow night. Winter just isn't going to go away. Kind of like Kate and Milo, I guess...
The thing about Milo and her obsession with Kate, is there is an undertone of jealousy and resentment. It displys in her passive aggressive tweets, her "jokes". Like saying Kate is growing old. Telling a blond joke. I have known people who act super sweet at first, then slyly sneak in a hurtful remark. If called on it, they act surprised that you took offense. They were only teasing, they never meant to hurt your feelings, and they are sorry you think they would purposely offend you. Underneath the phony exterior beats a relentless resentment. Life hasn't been fair, she should have the looks, the figure, the money, the fame. Best she can do is be pretend besties with Kate. I'm sure it chaps her hide at times, especially when Kate completely ignores her. "I won't be ignored Dan!" Milo can't boil a bunny, so she just takes the occasional pot shot.
It also reminds me of how abusers start off, with hurtful "just joking" remarks.
By the way, I don't care if Jon runs for local office, nor do I care if he wins or loses. Locals who post here have said repeatedly that in his area, the locals who are aware of him, mostly like him. I'm sure they are as aware as they want to be about his ups and downs. Jon often tosses out ideas or plans that go no further. It wouldn't surprise me if the political plans fall in that category.
Ex nurse, I consider a local rep could be city council, board of supervisors, something like that. I was surprised to learn that a supervisor can have a high salary, even in a smaller community.
I hope Jon wouldn't be offended but I think he and Kate are a lot alike in many ways. I don't think he is mentally ill like I believe she is, but they are both talkers instead of do-ers. They are both constantly talking about what they're going to do, want to do, thinking of doing, will do someday. Neither of them follow through on half of what they talk about. I've learned to take their musings with a grain of salt. For some people, they simply do not say they are going to do something unless they are. I am like that. I consider saying I'm going to do something my word and bond, an oral contract, and I do it or die trying. When I don't follow through on something I said, I feel bad. Other people don't feel that at all. They are happy to think aloud about things they would like to do but aren't that serious about. Or they THINK they are serious about something but when the rubber meets the road they won't be. Either approach to life is fair enough. Nothing wrong with it.
Jon and Kate both are easily bored and grass is greener around the bend people. Neither of them can seem to be satisfied or satiated. For both of them it's led to choices that maybe weren't best for the family. It's funny Jon now has another new place, and yet there is Kate not satisfied with her current house EITHER. It's really the same thing going on here, neither content.
Lifehacker, one of my favorite web sites, just had an article about how some people can't be content to the point of self-destruction, and how you have to self impose boundaries on yourself, cut yourself off, when you go down that route. Kate and Jon could both stand to learn a little of that, to be happy with what they have and not constantly looking for the next thing.
All that said there is nothing on its face wrong with floating about as Jon does, or having big dreams, or talking out loud but not meaning half of it, or always wanting something better. It's the people that weren't satisfied with what they had who have become our explorers, our inventors, our innovators, and our failures. It's people more like us who have perhaps funded those people, or nurtured those people, or loved those people, or felt burned or betrayed or abandoned by those people. But we aren't those people ourselves.
Sometimes that personality is just not something some people respond to or understand. But I think Kate understood it, respected it even, was cut from the same cloth, and it actually doesn't surprise me in the least two folks like them thought they had found their soulmate in each other.
Millicent said... 167
Tuckersmom, like Admin said, Kate violated a court order (filming the kids without Jon's ok or advance knowledge).
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How do you know that she violated a court order? What evidence do you have that such an order exists?
Lanc Native said...
Ouch, I hope that I am misinterpreting your statement here because it comes off as very condescending. I can assure you that we're not all low-information hicks who just vote for the sake of voting without doing our own research into the issues at hand.
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Yes, there is a misunderstanding. Admin responded to one of my earlier comments and brought up the term low-information voters.
Admin said....
Ex Nurse said....
Has there been any evidence that the million dollar judgement against Jon really happened? That fact alone would, I am sure, kill any chance he has, no matter who is in his corner.
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Oh goodness, I don't know that would be a factor at all. Have you seen who the low information voters put into office? Look at Chicago! :) Some civil lawsuit isn't going to make a difference. He's not running for president. Even then, the Clintons were sued up the wazoo and still stayed in office. Bill Clinton has since been disbarred, doesn't seem to be hurting his wife.
I think it's really going to come down to money and strategy. He will either be able to fund a campaign that strategically gets him a seat, or he won't. All due respect to Jon but the dumbest shadiest people find themselves in office sometimes. It's not about who would be the best man or woman for the job, the best role model, the most virtuous-- Americans don't always elect that person, nor are they required to.
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I have a very high opinion of the locals--I have said so a number of times. I was under the impression that people generally vote for people they can relate to and who share their values. I don't get the impression that the locals who post here share much in common with Jon in the way of values and how they choose to live their lives.
I wouldn't have hired someone with Jon's work history to work in my small business. Being an elected official is a job, after all. Therefore previous work history, and the fact that he was sued by TLC, and allegedly by Securus. for violating his employment contract is directly relevant. If that makes me an elitist, then I guess I am an elitist.
PA Dutch Mom said...
Do you mean the view that we country bumpkins here share when we put on our Daisy Dukes, go running off to the polls, flip a coin, and just vote for the candidate who wins the toss? The best part of election day is coming home and drinking rumspringa behind the barn. Sometimes, though, we have to slop the pigs first and hope that the sheeple...er...sheep don't get to the rumspringa first! LOL!
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I'm sorry you are offended by that--I was only saying that we have cultural differences and different perspectives, and therefore I wasn't going to try to guess how locals feel anymore. It isn't my place to say how the locals feel about what is happening in their area, so, going forward, I will not be commenting on that.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 172
I hope Jon wouldn't be offended but I think he and Kate are a lot alike in many ways. I don't think he is mentally ill like I believe she is, but they are both talkers instead of do-ers. They are both constantly talking about what they're going to do, want to do, thinking of doing, will do someday. Neither of them follow through on half of what they talk about. I've learned to take their musings with a grain of salt. For some people, they simply do not say they are going to do something unless they are. I am like that. I consider saying I'm going to do something my word and bond, an oral contract, and I do it or die trying. When I don't follow through on something I said, I feel bad. Other people don't feel that at all. They are happy to think aloud about things they would like to do but aren't that serious about. Or they THINK they are serious about something but when the rubber meets the road they won't be.
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I agree, it's not what you say, it's what you DO. I tend to align with candidates who have a good work history, strong ethics, do what they say, have similar values, and value their constituents.
Clearly, neither Jon or TFW meet the criteria. Many candidates shoot for local politics first to see if it even suits them in this line of work. TFW is too selfish and Jon is too flighty, in my opinion. Never going to happen.
Hmmm. I was expecting a negative story about Jon.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/kate-gosselin-abuse-court-documents-jon-claims-reality-star-hits-neglects-eight-children/
New ROL article
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/kate-gosselin-abuse-court-documents-jon-claims-reality-star-hits-neglects-eight-children/
R'uh R'oh! Here we go.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/kate-gosselin-abuse-court-documents-jon-claims-reality-star-hits-neglects-eight-children/
PJ
Something very ugly is going on with Gladys. She is being very passive-aggressive with TFW about the age thing. After tweeting over and over again that Kate looks so young, 40 isn't old, and on and on and on...she then starts making negative comments about age.Taking about Jon's older girlfriend and comparing her to Margaret Thatcher--as if a woman who is older than Jon must be comparable to MT, and knowing very well that Kate is older than Jon. Then when replying to Kate's tweet about the coffee mug/Keurig thing, Milo listed "getting old". Not getting older, getting OLD. After all that "you're still young" crap. Embarrassing Kate about the billboard thing. She says very spiteful things, then tacks an "LOL" at the end, as if that makes her comments any less nasty. I think deep down, she is incredibly jealous of Kate, and even though she desperately wants Kate to acknowledge her, she also hates her. Kind of a "Mean Girls" thing.
Her holistic healing thing did nothing to improve her attitude, did it? Perhaps she needs to try meditation.
Re: Radar Online article. I think it is fair to say at this point that things are not going to end well FOR THE KIDS. These two can not stop putting themselves first, while mortifying their kids.
Can't these matters be discussed privately with a Family Court Judge or DYFS? Years ago, should have been reported back then. Really, what is Radar Online going to do?
I am sorry, but both parents are making a circus out of these kids and it needs to stop!!! What protection do these kids have from 2 bad parents, when they never chose to film? Disgraceful.
It doesn't sound like the complaints were taken very seriously. Beat them, but don't leave any marks?why wouldn't a social worker see why the kids complained of being hit and spanked? As for the clothing, I agree Kate often under-dresses the kids, although this is old. Surely now they could state they are cold or uncomfortable even if told to 'man up' about boots that blister. Remember the spring picnic photo of the kids looking freezing cold at a park with a packed lunch? Or being overheated on the NYC trip and that fall photoshoot? And Kate being upset it rained for the parade on 4th of July one episode and people wouldn't see the matching outfits under rain-gear?
In the Maine episode, the girl tups were very vocal about what they would or would not wear, and Kate having to 'reward' Leah to persuade her to wear the 'ugly' dress for the family photos. I know, scripted, but still.. they did seem to express themselves about their preferences, although still do give into Kate or blackmail.I guess we don't know if social services have looked into the claims or if Kate had that psych eval Jon was demanding.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/kate-gosselin-abuse-court-documents-jon-claims-reality-star-hits-neglects-eight-children/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=KateCourtDocs
Hope the link works ladies.
How will Kate counter this latest ROL offering?
1. More cute witticisms out of her childrens' mouths?
2. Happy funtime pictures of the kids?
3. Pic of Zorro playing a banjo?
4. Another appliance tragedy?
Let's sit back and watch...
I'm almost positive we've seen those documents before. They are complaints from Jon in 2010 made during their custody battle. I feel like I remember the thing about the kids not being dressed warm enough.
In any case, they prove the point that Jon HAS told the family law court about his concerns about Kate, and gotten nowhere. Welcome to family law court.
I agree with all those who put Gladys into the category of those so-called friends who love you and hate you at the same time. Those who zing you, as Sue Buddy said.
I've had several "friends" like that. First, they're your very best buddy and want to be around you all the time (more than you even want to). Once they win you over with their constant presence and compliments and "friendship," they begin to make nasty but "funny" comments. It's all about control and competition, I believe.
When after a while, you protest, they say, "Can't you take a joke?" typically in front of others. They compete with you, whether you want to compete or not, and the put downs are frequently public. They want to be better than you are, but deep down don't believe they are.
They also want to control you, still want to be your best buddy. I think the put downs are designed, as someone said, to be part of a cycle of abuse. Bring you closer and then hit you verbally ... when you try to get away, they sweet talk you back into their lair until you wise up!
Let me tell, you just can't get far enough from people like that! Ugh, just writing this is bringing back bad memories.
I'll put money on that Gladys has no friends in real life. (Now she'll tweet about getting together with friends for coffee!)
Why the heck is Radar publishing something that happened in 2010? It was news back then, but now? What's the agenda?
I'll tell you thing, if those kids were ill dressed it was because they were dressing themselves. A parent would have thought to check the weather for the day. I always found it hard to believe she is up bright and early all the time.
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I'll put money on that Gladys has no friends in real life. (Now she'll tweet about getting together with friends for coffee!)
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Cawfee Talk with Milo that's Rich!
TLC stinks said... 187
Why the heck is Radar publishing something that happened in 2010? It was news back then, but now? What's the agenda?
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I agree. WTF? Not going to end well for these kids. Both K & J need a Family Court intervention REQUIRED by the Court. Both have issues that need to be addressed so they can parent THE KIDS IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. Kind of getting old and tired when old news comes up and should have been dealt with years ago.
The documents ARE old, but I don't think I've ever seen them.
I cannot imagine who in the world approached Jon about running for political office. Sorry. There are enough problems with our elected representatives. I'd be more inclined to believe him if he spent the last years working with Paul Peterson or some organization regarding child abuse. He still allows others to pump up his ego. Really, this is over the top. This is about as odd as Kate heading a nonprofit. Why do these two think are so entitled when they did nothing but sire eight kids?
That incident about the inappropriate clothing must have been when A and C were expelled as they were not along for this field trip. I think Kate cares more about appearances than comfort of the kids re: clothes. Maybe she wanted to show off their boots but didn't care about their warmth with providing jackets. Maybe TLC stinks is right; the kids were left to their own devices, although at age 5 or 6, that's pretty neglectful. Or they had a 'bad' nanny at the time.Didn't she have about 30 whom she stated didn't meet her standards or who could withstand the stress of the 8? Or the kids left their jackets at school. OR???. If it was a pattern, it's sad it wasn't looked into further by social services. Wonder why this old story is on ROL. I really wonder what things are like for the kids at home. I don't go by the specials, but I'm sure Kate hasn't changed her stripes- except those in her hair.
Her holistic healing thing did nothing to improve her attitude, did it?
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Well, she was on the BRAT diet and you are what you eat, so...
Caw-fee Talk with Milo, That's Rich, Man! Bwahaha
Virginia Pen Mom said (186)
They also want to control you, still want to be your best buddy. I think the put downs are designed, as someone said, to be part of a cycle of abuse. Bring you closer and then hit you verbally ... when you try to get away, they sweet talk you back into their lair until you wise up!
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Oh, yes! Kate can't really call out Milo because Milo might end up getting really nasty, and is clearly unstable. What if she turned on Kate? Who knows what she'd do?She does such strange things anyway. Remember when she went to get her dog (Katie Irene) and send all those tweets, making it sound like she was going to Kate's house? That was beyond creepy.
Also, Kate knows she can count on Milo to promote her latest party line. Like, for example, the notion that Shoka is spoiled (instead of abused). Kate said it a couple times, and Milo ran with it. How many tweets have we seen about how spoiled Shoka--and now Zorro, too-- are?
Kate both needs and fears, Milo, I think. Definite cycle of abuse stuff.
O'JMO said... 181
Re: Radar Online article. I think it is fair to say at this point that things are not going to end well FOR THE KIDS. These two can not stop putting themselves first, while mortifying their kids.
Can't these matters be discussed privately with a Family Court Judge or DYFS? Years ago, should have been reported back then. Really, what is Radar Online going to do?
I am sorry, but both parents are making a circus out of these kids and it needs to stop!!! What protection do these kids have from 2 bad parents, when they never chose to film? Disgraceful.
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Where does it say that ROL got the documents from Jon? This issue IS from years ago. And exactly how is Jon putting himself first by reporting these issues to the Family Court Judge? How is Jon making a "circus" out of his kids?
PJ
Anonymous said... 179
R'uh R'oh! Here we go.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/kate-gosselin-abuse-court-documents-jon-claims-reality-star-hits-neglects-eight-children/
PJ
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Yup, another stellar day to be a Gosselin kid.
You have to hit pretty damn hard to leave a welt.
I can not imagine hurting your own child like that.
I can't wait for the day when one or more of those kids fight back.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 186
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I agree, there is something very passive /aggressive about Milo. She is like a Rubiks' Cube, with her constant twists and turns.
WTF? What good will come of ROL posting this story? There are eight kids involved here. Keep it private. This does not need to be aired in the tabloids EVER. They are disgusting.
I agree with Virginia Pen Mom. I had a 'friend,' from church no less, who was so nice at first. She was morbidly obese, but said it didn't bother her and had a big and bright personality. She was very fun. Even her emails were fun. She decided to become a fitness instructor. I was really, truly happy for her. She then said, "Yeah, I figured out what I want to be when I grow up, and I don't have to look like you to do it." Uh, what? (She's still an instructor and doing great.) Those digs got worse and I distanced myself. Another friend told me to watch my back, she was talking about me behind my back, viciously. The friendship died away, which happens in many situations. No biggie. Recently, we were leaving a restaurant and she was there, but we didn't know. She saw us (for the first time in about 5 years) and we hadn't seen her. She screeched across the restaurant, "HELLO, MR.AND MRS SO AND SO!!" People turned and looked at her and then at us. She made it seem like we were dissing her. We just waved and left. I could see by the smirk on her face that we were going to get blasted. Nothing we can do about that.
I hope Milo doesn't get worse like that......it's confusing and hurtful to the person who is distancing themselves for a reason. Already, she points out things constantly that Kate probably either already knows or doesn't want to know. Kate doesn't deserve that - she's never done a thing to Milo.
Geez, Leah is one of TFW's favorite kids. Can you imagine what kind of corporal punishment the others received if Leah had welts??
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