Kate Plus 8 (“Mother’s Day Surprise”) – The children cook up a secret Mother’s Day breakfast for Kate; meanwhile, Kate looks back on her journey through motherhood. (TLC) May 10. Check local listings.
Happy Mother's Day to all our resident mothers on the porch!
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1844 Newer› Newest»Redbird @180 said...I just looked at Hannah's bruises. It looks horrible. It looks to me like 2 welts, one on the flat shoulder blade and then on the upper left. It can't be shading, because there is nothing there to make it shaded.
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Take another look at the picture Redbird. There are trees all around and if you look closely at the bumper of the vehicle and Aaden's shirt you'll see the same types of shadows. JMO of course and we all see what we see.
http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/2439673/kate-gosselin-easter-egg-hunt-06/fullsize/
So Jeff abused his ex-wife.
So Kate abused her ex-husband and kids
They sound like to disgusting peas in a pot..And I feel bed for all the kids involved.
TMZ has an article about Kate and Jeff. They posted 2 of the same photos that ET did, but there is one additional one that shows Jeff with his around Kate as they walked into the casino. It doesn't look like a casual "arm around the shoulder", it looks more like he was assisting her to walk. The article also says that he walked her to the bathroom during dinner. Little too much wine for Kate?
http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/15/kate-gosselin-new-boyfriend-jeff-prescott-photos/
Here's the link to just the pictures:
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/05/14/0514-main-kate-gosslien-cmy-4.jpg
I gasped when I read when TFW said that a 18 month old baby knows right from wrong. She is mentally flippity-duckity ill. That's like saying a 18 month old can sit in the witness box in a courtroom and know the difference between a lie and the truth. THE'RE BABIES, WITCH! My goodness, if someone on purposely injured to hurt him, my 2 yr. old grandson, I would absolutely want them dead, period.
What is it going to take for someone from somewhere besides Jon, their loving father, to do something about her cruelty to the children???
TFW is 40 years OLD and counting.
She doesn't know right from wrong. She thinks its right to beat, scream, alienate, abuse, torment the children. She thinks its wrong for them to have friends over, go see Jon, go do activities in town, go to the library, all go together to the local pizza place, just have normal childhood fun.
I am so sorry for those kids who were dealt a 13 yr. old mentally ill, stunted growth woman for a mother who hates to be around them, unless a camera is in their face making her money. When those kids realize when they are being used for money, it will hit them harder than a ton of bricks, TIMES EIGHT!
Payback will be that either TFM or the kids will pick out the home to put you in when you get down. Its not going to be pretty.
TMZ is now covering the "date" complete with another picture.
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That second arm around her photo pretty much seals the deal for me.
Kate is a twit said... 3
You know Kate is directly challenged maybe TFM hired Jeff to lead KK around.
I agree the marks on Hannah are likely tree shadows. I doubt Kate would have dressed her in an outfit where bruises would show if she knew paps were there. Didn't RH say she knew how to beat them without leaving a mark? But you never know. We do know there has been abuse by Kate's own words.
Admin....... 6
What deal ??
Of course he walked her to the bathroom -- TFW hasn't gone to
the loo without an escort since the divorce. I hope Jeff brought
some mini M&M's for rewards.
I'm gonna watch TMZ LIve today. Those dudes are brutal, and
I think they'll have some interesting comments on this "date."
He looks like he was out slopping the hog
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He did take her out to dinner.
I looked at the pictures on TMZ, and couldn't help but notice that the guy in one is wearing a different shirt. In the restaurant picture and the one at the casino, he has a black t-shirt on. But walking across the street, it looks like a lighter-colored, looser-fitting shirt. The lighter colored shirt is tucked in with a belt, while he wears the black t-shirt untucked. And both of the pictures with his arm around her look very awkward, like they are not comfortable together. In the restaurant picture--is he texting? And he walked her to the bathroom? That is a very odd date….
Thanks to whoever posted the new www.viaviewfiles.net web address. Interesting reading! I never would have thought reading about lawsuits could be entertaining!
lol Kate's last tweet implies she was so surprised to see the new special was repeated on TLC last night after Mady's drama production.Killed two birds(hate that expression) by mentioning the show and Madys' dramatics. Plenty of replies from Milo, Goody, one from Em...
Well, Jeff appears about as short as Steve and does this woman really need an escort to the bathroom? ?
I think its evident they were followed.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 11
Of course he walked her to the bathroom -- TFW hasn't gone to
the loo without an escort since the divorce. I hope Jeff brought
some mini M&M's for rewards.
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lol Flimsy!
She sure slouches at the table. She has absolutely no class. None. He's no better with that cellphone in front of him.
Looks like those Busby quints and the older daughter are receiving alot of nice gifts. Their page gives frequent updates and at least the parents issue thank-yous. The babies are doing well and are pretty cute! Eat your heart out, Kate.Still not sold on their 'commercializing' the babies though.
Yeah, Admin what deal?
I still think it was a set-up for another pitch for a reality show for Kate: the single mom & the millionaire. He does want something from Kate, besides probably sex, maybe TV expose, and Kate gets his money support, to get another show. If not sold to TLC, maybe another channel/network, would be interested. The person taking the pick, someone they hired or a friend of his. Way too many details, were given. And these articles seem to think that Kate only met Jeff this past January, when they finely aired CA. CA was filmed almost 6 months before the air date. So who really sold the article/or info with pics to TV rag? Kate or Jeff or both? or had the friend do it, so they could say it was not them?
This is too easy, too covenant. She said months ago they were not dating, just a business meeting. If it is true, Kate made an ass of herself, and a LIAR.
I don't know if Jon reads here, but I hope he makes a point of never being alone with her. Always have witnesses.
Ingrid (#12), good one! But aren't pigs supposed to be clean
animals? Bet even they wouldn't run around barefoot on the
streets of NYC.
Formerly Duped (#15), isn't she calculating? If only she used
those powers for good instead of evil.
She surely does slouch a lot, even at the casino table she was all slouched over. Maybe she's trying to hid the excessively big boobs....
Remember when she was on DWTS, and the made such a big deal out of she had to be covered up, cuz she 'was a mom'.
Uh huh. So how's that explain the shoulder baring top she wore on that outing? She's not a mom anymore?
That photo of when he's walking her to the bathroom...his arm is very high on her shoulders. It looks more like he's helping her to the bathroom, not walking her to the bathroom. It gives the appearance of a woman rip roaring, unable to walk. Nice. And oh, so safe.
And we all know that her safety is of the utmost importance.
Layla said... 13
I looked at the pictures on TMZ, and couldn't help but notice that the guy in one is wearing a different shirt. In the restaurant picture and the one at the casino, he has a black t-shirt on. But walking across the street, it looks like a lighter-colored, looser-fitting shirt. The lighter colored shirt is tucked in with a belt, while he wears the black t-shirt untucked. And both of the pictures with his arm around her look very awkward, like they are not comfortable together. In the restaurant picture--is he texting? And he walked her to the bathroom? That is a very odd date….
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If you look at the picture of Kate and Jeff walking into the building on ET's article here:
http://www.etonline.com/news/164399_kate_gosselin_millionaire_boyfriend_step_out_for_pda_filled_date_night/
you'll see Kate's huge purse she's carrying on her left shoulder. In the photo you're talking about where his arm is around her as they're walking, what looks like a light colored shirt is actually big pink purse between them. Follow his hand on her shoulder up to his elbow, and just above the crook in his elbow you'll see the black sleeve of his t-shirt which pretty much blends in with the black background. I lightened the photo and could see the t-shirt sleeve more distinctly.
P.J. said... 20
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With whom? Hannah?? Or Kate? Sad but true.
Tucker's Mom said... 16
Well, Jeff appears about as short as Steve and does this woman really need an escort to the bathroom? ?
I think its evident they were followed.
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He's not really short. Look at the photo in the ET article where they're walking into the building:
http://www.etonline.com/news/164399_kate_gosselin_millionaire_boyfriend_step_out_for_pda_filled_date_night/
Kate's wearing her hooker high heels and he's taller than she is.
I do not think the guy with his arm around Kate is Jeff. Where is his tucked in shirt with belt? In the other close up, his black tee shirt fits snugly and I cannot see the outline of a belt. What's up TMZ?
Formerly Duped said... 24
P.J. said... 20
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With whom? Hannah?? Or Kate? Sad but true.
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Of course with sKate.
Oooohhhhh, how sweet !! Kate came home last night and saw her li sweet family who she loves so much on TV. Maybe that was why Hannah didn't want to go home she was afraid of all that loving. There is some serious stuff going on with that family. And yet TLC keeps throwing money and expensive gifts to this monster.
I wish someone would ask Harvey on TMZ Live why they reported a story on Kate's new boyfriend and not about the daughter who didn't want to go home to her mother.
She shouldn't be with someone who could explode like that, even if it only happened once. It's not just her. She has eight children, challenging children quite frankly, to think about. How will he react when they test his patience?
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You could say the same thing to him about tfw
Interesting, I found the middle school production last night was "The Taming of the Shrew" and the shrew is named Kate haha I never read that play. Anyway, it lists the cast and crew by first name, last initial and M is not listed.
It's the same guy, same jeans, same shoes,same body build, unless of course, Kate has two men there with her both wearing the same pants, same shirt, same hair and they both like to put their arm on her back and shoulders!
If a pap took that picture and was hired to follow them around, he needs to get a better camera!
Yes, indeed. Looks like a business meeting to me! LOL!
I wish someone would ask Harvey on TMZ Live why they reported a story on Kate's new boyfriend and not about the daughter who didn't want to go home to her mother.
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Most likely because people don't care about custody issues as much as they do about relationships/scandals and the juicy gossip that ensues.
"The Taming of the Shrew" - no wonder TFW didn't mention the name of the production in her tweet. Can't you just imagine the response of the haters on twitter. She knows that cap (shrew) fits her nicely.
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I think someone was hired to follow Kate and get some pics. How else would they know he picked her up, etc,? And it has be a deliberate follow because they were at two separate locations.
An acrimonious divorce, suspicions of child abuse, kids telling Jon who know's what...I wouldn't blame Jon if he hired someone to follow Kate. And it's certainly plausible it could be Robert, he's certainly been involved in this mess for years now.
It's sad that Kate thinks her kid's lives are public fodder yet she continuously keeps her 6 sheep in the dark about her private life. Go to the Derby? crickets....Have sex before marriage? crickets...dating Jeff whatever-his-last-name-is? crickets...abuse your kids? crickets....yet she sure doesn't mind sharing about teens and bra shopping, or how boys can't hit the potty.
There's no telling what this woman is capable of (we know she locked them in their rooms at night, took their rx meds with her while she traveled alone, etc) Jon's dealing with a monster and I wouldn't blame him one bit if he's behind the pics. If it was me, I'd do it. I'd do anything I had to if my kids were being ABUSED and FORCED to work so mommy can have a manicure and get her hair done.
I didn't realize it before, but the picture TMZ has of Kate and Jeff sitting at the restaurant table is different than the one ET had.
Here is the ET one:
http://www.etonline.com/news/2015/05/24151059/450_Kate-Gosselin-3.jpg
Here is the TMZ one:
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/05/14/0514-sub-kate-gosslien-cmy-6.jpg
In the TMZ one, it shows Jeff looking at his phone ignoring Kate.
TMZ Live is going to discuss Kate. It's on TMZ's website, but I don't think the show has started yet.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/15/tmz-live-kate-gosselin-jon-bill-cosby-gma-good-morning-america-interview-the-edge-u2-bono-fall-tyga-kylie-jenner/
Interesting, I found the middle school production last night was "The Taming of the Shrew" and the shrew is named Kate haha I never read that play. Anyway, it lists the cast and crew by first name, last initial and M is not listed.
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"Taming" was presented at the end of April.
Sue_Buddy(23),
Perhaps it is her purse--I didn't notice before, but it's still odd. If you're walking with a man who has his arm around you, you wouldn't put a huge purse between you, unless you don't want him to get too close. You'd put it on your other shoulder. That whole "date" setup just does not ring true.
Vanessa 29....I was thinking the same thing. If I had seen someone be that nasty to her own children, on national TV no less, I would not want her around my own children.
Just watched the TMZ segment on Kate. It was brief, but they showed a couple of different photos from the "date". One of them getting out of the car and another in the casino. One of the TMZ guys said he had a bone to pick with Kate and mentioned that they had interviewed her in January.
I had forgotten that they had done that interview with Kate when she did her media tour in January.
They called her out telling them back in January that she wasn't dating Jeff and played that interview.
Busted!!
(Leslie)
It is so true! Money does not buy you class. That photo of Kate sitting in the restaurant with her bra straps AND the sides of her bra exposed is so gross and tacky. WOW! She looks like a hooker with that shirt way off her shoulders, bra exposed, bleached hair, and ugly-ass hooker heels. She looks so cheap.
With her infamous reputation I really think her odds are very slim to find a really good man that would just lover her and her kids without any bad motives. I mean why would a solid upstanding man want all that ugly media attention, her ugly attitude, her ugly history, and her ugly home life situation.
Lanc Native said... 36
Interesting, I found the middle school production last night was "The Taming of the Shrew" and the shrew is named Kate haha I never read that play. Anyway, it lists the cast and crew by first name, last initial and M is not listed.
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"Taming" was presented at the end of April..
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Oh ok thanks. I tried to double check the dates because it seemed like a high school production but following the links it led me to that play. Weird
If this custody thing makes it to court, I wonder if TLC will throw their money behind their "investment" again, as they did against Jon during the divorce. I wonder if Kate and her show mean that much to them this time around. You know Jon's chances of getting more custody (and stopping the filming) will be materially damaged if TLC's money gets involved.
I don't care about Kate's 'romance." I am more concerned about the Hannah story,unless the two are relates somehow?
This person keeps popping up on Kate's tl praising mama June and Kim kardashian and Kate. Then I saw the name allfiredup4kim and realized someone is spoofing fired up milos blind devotion to TFW it's pretty funny now that I get it
Oops forgot the shot
@kimkardash1337: @msgoody2shoes21 @JoySchoge @Kateplusmy8 Kate's show is no different then @KimKardashian and @MamaJune_BooBoo There as real as they cum.
Hey, since we are sleuthing, that doesn't look like a menu to me. I think
I see a manila envelope under a document, or that is one complicated
menu!
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/05/14/0514-sub-kate-gosslien-cmy-6.jpg
Jumping In (#46), are you sure it isn't a vanilla envelope?
Hey, since we are sleuthing, that doesn't look like a menu to me. I think
I see a manila envelope under a document, or that is one complicated
menu!
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It's the menu. I see the red at the top. Here's a pic of Talula's dinner menu:
http://www.talulasgarden.com/main/images/themenus/dinner.pdf
I had the unpleasant experience of listening to a man with 34 kids (by 17 women) talk about himself. He does not take care of his children or know them. But HE plays the victim. And when he's not playing victim, he's bragging about himself. He doesn't understand why his children are angry with him and many want nothing to do with him. It is clear he is a narcissist. He also is getting his own reality show.
This got me thinking about other narcissists with a crazy amount of kids. Kody Brown. Kate Gosselin. Is this common for narcissists? You know what it reminds me of? Lord Voldemort and his horcruxes. Children are the horcruxes, and they are ensuring their narcissist parent's immortality.
This got me thinking about other narcissists with a crazy amount of kids. Kody Brown. Kate Gosselin. Is this common for narcissists?
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YES, that I know of.
Jumping In said... 46
Hey, since we are sleuthing, that doesn't look like a menu to me. I think
I see a manila envelope under a document, or that is one complicated
menu!
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That's the dinner menu on top. Here's the picture of the menus from the restaurant's website:
http://www.talulasgarden.com/main/themenus.shtml
took their rx meds with her while she traveled alone, etc)
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I haven't heard this one before. Can you elaborate?
Kate is a twit said... 51
That's the dinner menu on top.
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Maybe the dessert menu comes in a vanilla envelope?
Maybe the dessert menu comes in a vanilla envelope?
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You owe me another rumspringa. This one is on the keyboard.
You know what it reminds me of? Lord Voldemort and his horcruxes. Children are the horcruxes, and they are ensuring their narcissist parent's immortality.
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Kate once said that her children are extensions of herself.
"Taming" was presented at the end of April..
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Oh ok thanks. I tried to double check the dates because it seemed like a high school production but following the links it led me to that play. Weird
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April 23 was opening night, followed by shows on the 24 and 25.
"Kiss Me, Kate" is the musical version of Shakespeare's "Shrew", one of my favorite shows. I've seen it on Broadway and wish they would bring it back with the same actors. Of course, Kate is the shrew. Ironic, huh?
They called her out telling them back in January that she wasn't dating Jeff and played that interview.
Busted!!
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Playing Devil's Advocate here...is it possible that when the interview was done in January, and she called out the tabloid gossip as just rumors and lies that she really wasn't dating him at the time, but just recently started seeing him (romantically)?
Ugh. Defending Kate is not pleasant. I sound like a sheeple, which is the story they will be spinning.
Narcissists playing the "grandiose" role promote themselves as powerful figures, demanding gratitude and adulation from their child. Just so long as the child is not too successful, incurring jealousy and recrimination. No narcissist wants to be upstaged or outgrown so they suppress signs of independence, any behavior beyond their command. Invasions of privacy, boundary violations, and direct attacks on others are the norm. Young-Bruehl tells the story of a patient called "Alice," physically beaten by her father when she tried to leave home. Alice says of her childhood, "I was always on the edge of terror... I mean error. Well, no, I guess I do mean terror."
Key to a narcissist character is self-absorption so intense that narcissists are unable to empathize with others. They are so immersed in self-need that they cannot consider their child's viewpoint. The child, and sometimes the spouse, is a nobody. Nonexistent. As Young-Bruehl puts it, children who are emotionally abused by narcissists "are not supposed to have any identity or feelings of their own; they have been taken over, like an occupied or colonized country, by the feelings that their abuser (or abusers) project onto them. The child is made into a target of elimination."
"Childism" is the word the writer gives to the distorted belief that a child exists to serve his or her parent's needs. Such children are, at an early age, put at the service of their parent's ego. This is similar to how a sexist treats in-house women, as an object or property, as extensions of the self.
As the narcissistic parent tries to erase the child's self, the child is often naively convinced the self who is attacked actually deserves it. Young-Bruehl makes a poignant point about the cases of abuse she has worked with clinically, many of which involve sexual and physical abuse. Narcissistically inscribed children readily sympathize with their parents' psychic injury. They can tell the details of their parent's painful past with such keen awareness that they "never miss a crumb of information that will explain the wounds their parents have sustained."
Crucially: narcissistic family regimes are organized around the business of emotional compensation. The parental narcissist is seeking compensation for damage they feel has been done to them, for the abuse or neglect that stems from their own childhood. The child is called upon to give the "parental" love and attention that their parent(s) did not receive in their own upbringing. There is thus a role reversal in these familial structures. Abusers expect their children to parent them. In this way, the child-caretaker interaction, of traumatizing need and demand, operates across multiple generations. Young-Bruehl elaborates this "transgenerational transmission" from parent to child to her -- as the therapist hearing and bearing witness to some distressing histories. Her clients, like David Copperfield, are struggling to be the hero of their own story.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-me-in-we/201203/when-narcissist-heads-the-household
You'd put it on your other shoulder. That whole "date" setup just does not ring true.
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Not if you're used to putting it the same shoulder. Maybe she didn't know he was going to put his arm around her, and the bag had been there all along. I don't know about anyone else, but if I use a shoulder bag, it always goes on the same shoulder. It would be weird to carry it on the other one!
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/05/14/0514-sub-kate-gosslien-cmy-6.jpg
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I'm surprised nobody has enlarged the picture to see if the watch is a Rolex, or a Patek Philippe, or maybe they have and I missed it!
RIP, B.B. King.
Poor Kravitz. She doesn't quite know what to do with all of this latest news, so she resorts to deflecting...
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1m1 minute ago
Thanks @TLC 4repeat of @kateplusmy8 #MD special! Even better 2nd time around!This show just keeps pulling our heart strings! More please! :)
Oh, here we go, Kate is the student of: Friends with Benefits.
Her church, family, friends, Jamie, Deanna, her hair salon, people from Wyoming, the camera crew and Steve & Jeff, her Friends with Benefits. When the Benefits run out or not available any more Kate dumps these people. This Jeff is a friend with benefits, for now.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5m5 minutes ago
Did you realize U only have a couple weeks left b4 it's #OutOfSchool...#FunTime..#PoolTime..#SleepingInTime..#Summertime!!! @Kateplusmy8
And perhaps most importantly, WORK time, right, Milo?
Well, so much for me getting my Private Investigators license, Kate is a twit, you have out-sleuthed me by a long shot, menu it is!
Jennifer McNeill @JennMcNeill · 50m50 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Who the hell does Jon think he is filing for custody one of your girls!!! What is wrong with him??
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Um, her father.
Jury sentences convicted Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to death
I don't think it would bother Kate that Jeff committed DV. She would have to end up finding a violent man to have a man willing to date her. Any man who was disgusted by her child abuse wouldn't date her. And didn't she say at one point that what she needed in a husband was a disciplinarian? I don't think she would have any problem with it if he hit a kid.
Vanessa quoted...
"They can tell the details of their parent's painful past with such keen awareness that they "never miss a crumb of information that will explain the wounds their parents have sustained."
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Good grief, WE can tell the details of her painful past. We've heard it a fuckety-billion times (the pregnancy and the baby years) I can't even imagine what those kids have been guilted with. Foot rub, anyone? Boo hoo.
Didn't this Jeff dude file for bankruptcy at some point, or was that someone else? If so, how did he become a millionaire? He should be going around the country giving seminars rather than fooling around with foundations.
Those poor kids were giving her massages when they were
toddlers -- remember when she was sick and said she wanted
them to roll their toy cars on her to help her feel better? I'd
say your average toddlers thinks their parent are superheroes.
Mommy and Daddy's physical needs shouldn't even occur to
a child that little. But these kids have been hardwired to cater
to their mother's needs.
Any man who was disgusted by her child abuse wouldn't date her.
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He's most likely heard her side of the story and doesn't believe any of the child abuse allegations, just as she has heard his side of the story about the domestic violence.
Jennifer McNeill @JennMcNeill · 50m50 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Who the hell does Jon think he is filing for custody one of your girls!!! What is wrong with him??
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Um, her father.
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I saw that and thought...good grief, how brainwashed (gullible and dumb) are these people? What's wrong with him? He wants his children to be healthy and happy, not filming, and under her insane control. The question should be...what is wrong with this sheeple (and all of them) that they can't figure this out? None so blind as those who will not see.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5m5 minutes ago
Did you realize U only have a couple weeks left b4 it's #OutOfSchool...#FunTime..#PoolTime..#SleepingInTime..#Summertime!!! @Kateplusmy8
And perhaps most importantly, WORK time, right, Milo?
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Well, no, duh, Gladys. Thanks for reminding her. Bet she thought school continues all summer. At least you have told her and she won't get to the bus stop wondering why there is no bus there.
However could she live without you, dolt?
I don't know about anyone else, but if I use a shoulder bag, it always goes on the same shoulder. It would be weird to carry it on the other one!
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lol! You are right. I tried this, and it just doesn't work on the "wrong" shoulder.
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For the lefties out there, does your shoulder bag always go on the left shoulder?
eonline has a story about Jon and the custody battle for Hannah. They say they confirmed that Jon filed papers:
"E! News has confirmed that the former Jon & Kate Plus 8 star has recently filed papers in Berks County, Penn., seeking full custody of one of his eight children, 11-year-old daughter Hannah Gosselin.
Gosselin's attorney Kristen Doleva tells E! News, "Jon's priority is what is best for the kids," adding he will "fight for them," but would not comment on the situation any further. Meanwhile, his rep tells E! News, "Jon is currently not commenting on the situation. His focus remains on his children."
So why just Hannah and not all of the kids? A source tells us, "Jon is filing for custody because Hannah has expressed she is unhappy and uncomfortable in the house with Kate Gosselin."
http://www.eonline.com/news/657276/jon-gosselin-seeking-custody-of-one-of-his-8-children-with-kate-gosselin
I'm remembering a photo of Jon and one of the girls running to him smiling, arms extended, when she was getting off the bus, and also another one of him sitting on a bench holding one of the girls (very tender moment). Were either of those pictures of Hannah?
PA Dutch Mom said... 61
RIP, B.B. King.
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We saw B.B. a couple years ago, and it was a thrill to see him in concert (first time). I knew at the time it was now or never, and I'm so glad to say we watched him play.
He did a lot more yapping than playing:) but, it was amazing to see the legend.
PA Dutch Mom said... 59
You'd put it on your other shoulder. That whole "date" setup just does not ring true.
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Not if you're used to putting it the same shoulder. Maybe she didn't know he was going to put his arm around her, and the bag had been there all along. I don't know about anyone else, but if I use a shoulder bag, it always goes on the same shoulder. It would be weird to carry it on the other one!
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I carry on the left, and never, ever swing the other way!
Playing Devil's Advocate here...is it possible that when the interview was done in January, and she called out the tabloid gossip as just rumors and lies that she really wasn't dating him at the time, but just recently started seeing him (romantically)?
Ugh. Defending Kate is not pleasant. I sound like a sheeple, which is the story they will be spinning.
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Bingo. That'll be Kate's story and she'll stick with it!
PA Dutch Mom said... 56
"Taming" was presented at the end of April..
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Oh ok thanks. I tried to double check the dates because it seemed like a high school production but following the links it led me to that play. Weird
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April 23 was opening night, followed by shows on the 24 and 25.
"Kiss Me, Kate" is the musical version of Shakespeare's "Shrew", one of my favorite shows. I've seen it on Broadway and wish they would bring it back with the same actors. Of course, Kate is the shrew. Ironic, huh?
May 15, 2015 at 1:29 PM
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We saw Kiss Me Kate on Broadway right before 9/11. I remember watching it closely after that, and saw it close, unfortunately, because the attendance for that show, and many others, just was too low to carry the show further.
Can Jon Gosselin Seize Custody of Just One Child From Ex, Kate?
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/can-jon-gosselin-seize-custody-of-just-one-child-119046442392.html
Interesting article. If the Gosselin children don't start talking they may have to continuing living with MONSTER MOM.
Interesting that the only mom I know who has her kids give her back/foot rubs is my dil.....who is a TFW clone. My daughter wouldn't ask that of her kids, and if she did, they'd say, "Ew!" and refuse to do it.
There's something about touching your parents in that way that doesn't seem right.
Jeanne said... 68
I don't think it would bother Kate that Jeff committed DV. She would have to end up finding a violent man to have a man willing to date her. Any man who was disgusted by her child abuse wouldn't date her. And didn't she say at one point that what she needed in a husband was a disciplinarian? I don't think she would have any problem with it if he hit a kid.
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If she wants a disciplinarian, she needs to be dating Bing Crosby.
Over And Out . . . 77
Yeah, that one is Hannah.
Interesting article. If the Gosselin children don't start talking they may have to continuing living with MONSTER MOM.
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Because the kids have been filming all along and it had no ill effect on them, then they should continue and not complain about it? Is that what I am understanding from this?
Ingrid said... 67
Jury sentences convicted Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to death
May 15, 2015 at 2:24 PM
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I'm glad???? I don't know. I've no pity for the young man, but I don't know if I believe in the death penalty.
I know that the death penalty is what some victims wanted, and others not.
Not to open a bag of political worms!
It's interesting that one of the girls wants to defect to her father's house, since Kate's a 'girly mom'. dontchaknow...
But seriously, it's hard on sibling relationships when they live in separate households.
I hope that whatever happens, it's in the best interest of the kids. And please, Jon, get these kids some counseling.
For the lefties out there, does your shoulder bag always go on the left shoulder?
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I'm a leftie and I actually carry mine on my right shoulder, is more comfortable for me.
Buckle up, guys - this is going to get wild. Who's trending now,
Gladys?
Those poor kids. Any unrest within the family hurts them, and
I wish them peace.
Over and Out (77)
Yes, both were Hannah.
Over And Out said... 77
I'm remembering a photo of Jon and one of the girls running to him smiling, arms extended, when she was getting off the bus, and also another one of him sitting on a bench holding one of the girls (very tender moment). Were either of those pictures of Hannah?
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YES! I actually have 2 of the photos saved to my computer; one is Hannah running with open arms and a big smile on her face toward Jon who is kneeling a little (with the bus behind her) then the next one is Hannah in his arms after he picked her up and she is holding on tight to him.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 86
Interesting article. If the Gosselin children don't start talking they may have to continuing living with MONSTER MOM.
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Because the kids have been filming all along and it had no ill effect on them, then they should continue and not complain about it? Is that what I am understanding from this?
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Yeah, this doesn't make sense to me either. And Jon has pretty consistently said, since 2009 when he got out, that he didn't want his kids filming, he thought it was detrimental to their overall well-being. And we know that there have been complaints--sometimes shown right on the show! Is all that going to be ignored?
I hope before any judge takes Kate's piecin' n' patchin' shuck and jive seriously, he asks to see a full accounting of expenses. Including how much the kids are paying for their own upkeep versus what she puts in from her "share." Bet that would be an eye-opener.
I'm waiting for the episode of K+8 where TLC films (errr..."stages") Kate bringing Jeffy to meet the kids and they all run to him with outstretched arms, squealing and shrieking gleefully and refusing to let him go?
Yep, that's what I'm waiting for. (I won't be watching, though.)
The E article also says:
"In a perfect world, Jon would take all the kids, but he's not in a position to," the insider adds. "For now, he's at least trying to help Hannah. Out of all the children, she's the one voicing her discomfort."
I don't think its true he's not in a position to. Maybe he's not in a position to afford a bigger custody fight? But if he got custody, she would have to pay HIM child support. And I would LMAO about that
So why just Hannah and not all of the kids? 76
Perhaps Jon is listening to advice from his lawyer.
Ok, people, how many of you carry a large purse/bag, when you go out on a date? Or for those of you that go to the casinos? Most people I know don't carry large purses or purse bags or what we use to call shoplifting bags on dates. We usually take a small purse, enough for make-up, keys, cell-phone, money & cc. We don't drag a hugh purse around.
We saw Kiss Me Kate on Broadway right before 9/11. I remember watching it closely after that, and saw it close, unfortunately, because the attendance for that show, and many others, just was too low to carry the show further.
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Tucker's Mom, do you remember who was cast as Fred? We saw it with Brian Stokes Mitchell, who won a Tony for his performance. What an incredible actor and singer. He also played Don Quixote in Man of La Mancha on Broadway. I'm a fan!
Even if Jon gets nowhere with seeking custody, at least in the future the kids will know who loves them and who fought for them. I had to shake my head when I read that cruelty could just be taking away a cell phone. Yes, it could, but in this case the cruelty could also mean making these kids film when they are totally opposed to doing so. If that's not cruelty, I don't know what is.
Buckle up, guys - this is going to get wild. Who's trending now,
Gladys?
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But wait. Gladys claimed that everything in the tabloids was a lie and gossip. How does that explain Jon filing for custody? If it were all lies, then why has Jon now filed the papers?
If she wants a disciplinarian, she needs to be dating Bing Crosby.
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I don't think he could lift a hand right now.
I'm primarily a lefty (forcibly switched in elementary school, so really mixed dominant now) and I carry a shoulder bag on my right shoulder. It leaves my left hand free for things like opening doors and carrying other things like grocery bags.
I remember that photo of H running into Jon's open arms. You never see such joy on one of the kids' faces when they are interacting with their gestational carrier. One thing always struck me about Jon's interactions with the kids. He always got down on their level -- stooping, crouching -- whatever -- so that he could look them in the eye. The GC (gestational carrier) never does that. She always looms above them.
I was reading comments on the US website's article, and one very
staunch TFW supporter is already blaming H. She says children
have too much freedom nowadays, and should only have opinions
when an adult tells them to. Yikes.
I wonder how Gladys will respond. Probably that Jon handled it
badly, and should've tried to work things out privately with TFW.
Kinda hard when the woman won't agree to be in the same room
with him, huh?
Over And Out said... 77
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Yes, as readerlady said, that was Hannah running to Jon from the bus, but wasn't it Alexis on the bench at their 5th birthday party? That was a lovely interaction. Jon was close with all the kids until recent times.
I can't believe Hannah would live with Jon without Leah. I hope this will encourage other G kids to speak up and maybe Jon can get custody of more of them
A date? What's that? LOL. But seriously, if I were out with a fellow and thought he might tuck his arm around me, I think I'd place the purse over whatever shoulder was opposite him. That's what I used to do, back in my dating days.
As to Jon seeking custody of Hannah only, maybe his attorney told him that since she is specifically asking to live with her dad and perhaps has described some incidents involving Kate, that his chance of prevailing are much stronger than before. Maybe if the other children some day decide they too want to live with their dad, he can request custody of them at that time too.
Sometime I get these silly sheeple mixed up. Who was the one begging for money to fix her car, kept asking Kate to pray for her, and another one was telling this fan that God will take care of it? I think the latter was obsessed with food and Applebees.
I'm also remembering one from way back who flip flopped, couldn't decide on which side of the fence she wanted to sit, and then went ghetto and joined BV and his minions. What was her name?
Kate really has attracted some loonies along the way!
I carry my purse on my right. If I am walking with someone I walk on their right so the purse doesn't get between us (if it seems to be in the way)
PA Dutch Mom said... 100
If she wants a disciplinarian, she needs to be dating Bing Crosby.
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I don't think he could lift a hand right now.
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And that's a good thing, he can't ever hit another defenseless child again, and that will happen to TFW one day, but unfortunately, she thinks she is immortal.
I think that damage control right now is beyond Milo's capability, so she continues tweeting TLC about the show:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1m1 minute ago
@Kateplusmy8 Letting @TLC know ur #MDSpecial gets a 4.5 ⭐ out of 5 rating! Only thing missing? We needed some #ShokaLove ❤ Ok? 😋
"Ok, people, how many of you carry a large purse/bag, when you go out on a date? Or for those of you that go to the casinos? Most people I know don't carry large purses or purse bags or what we use to call shoplifting bags on dates. We usually take a small purse, enough for make-up, keys, cell-phone, money & cc. We don't drag a hugh purse around."
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I don't date, but I do have rather large bags that I carry everywhere, not only to the store and around town but also when going out for the evening. I don't like small purses. If I go to a casino, I always carry a big bag to hold all of the money I've won! LOL! Seriously, though, I do prefer large bags if I go to a casino, which isn't very often. Small purses are too easily lost.
readerlady said...
The GC (gestational carrier) never does that. She always looms above them.
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Yes and she used to walk with them, holding their hands but her arms were bent up so that the kids arms were fully extended and stretched. Lots of people felt she did that so as to make them appear smaller than they were.
Here's a good example of what I mean.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/eo6zRAI8G1_/Kate+Gosselin+Family+Leaving+Their+NYC+Hotel/MyEkDnTZyBb/Kate+Gosselin
Yes, as readerlady said, that was Hannah running to Jon from the bus, but wasn't it Alexis on the bench at their 5th birthday party? That was a lovely interaction. Jon was close with all the kids until recent times.
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I remember that picture, but it seems to me that Jon was shown from the back, and he was holding one of the girls. It wasn't under a tent at a birthday party, but perhaps on a park bench somewhere. It seemed like such a tender moment between father and daughter.
I'm also remembering one from way back who flip flopped, couldn't decide on which side of the fence she wanted to sit, and then went ghetto and joined BV and his minions. What was her name?
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Was it Big Kate Fan or something? I can picture her avatar with the little boy
getofftweeter (96): "We don't drag a hugh purse around."
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Does Heffner have a line of bags? ;-)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1m1 minute ago
LOL @Kateplusmy8 We have discussed this b4 > > It's all in how you look at it, right? :)
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So Milo tweets Kate her silly cartoons and animal pics and platitudes and calls them discussions. Maybe these discussions are Milo's other way of communicatin'.
Don't DARE believe this is her boyfriend...THIS is TLC's answer to too many people seeing Kate and her married FORMER bodyguard sharing a hotel room during Apprentice filming...Can't have any of their little "cash cows" doing bad...They would have to cut her loose like Mama June without DAMAGE CONTROL in the form of THIS man...
Was it Big Kate Fan or something? I can picture her avatar with the little boy
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Big Fan was the one from Hershey, the really, really weird one who tweeted Kate during a thunderstorm and asked her if she would get electrocuted if she got out of her car. She would tweet Kate when she had period cramps. Yes, she had a son and was divorced. Portuguese or something, if I recall.
I remember thinking at the time that she lived too close to Kate. She drove to a grocery store in Berks, knowing that Kate shopped there, and she hated men. She also asked the same thing over and over and over again. I haven't seen her on Twitter for a long time. I think she made some racist remarks and got suspended over and over again. She could be there, though, under another name.
I think the ghetto flipper person was Nicki or Nikki or something like that.
Look, Kate has so little going for her that she can't be picky. No man of substance or integrity would be interested in her. She sees that he has a little money and that's all that matters to her. She doesn't care that he bashes Jon publicly. When I see the pictures, the first thing I wonder is what's wrong with HIM...that he'd date HER?
I think she probably thinks she's going to trick this guy into marrying her so he can take care of her. He's probably not that stupid. He's getting more famous for dating her and he won't marry her.
I for one think the date was staged to deflect from Steve going to Mexico. Think about it. Two birds with one stone. TLC and STEVE have an out as to why he was, allegedly, in Mexico with her. After all, she is dating someone else, why would Kate need a boyfriend if she already has one. That story also fits as an out with Gina. Yep, it was a plant. Kate gets the money from selling the story and pictures and TLC gets the high ratings and the money from sponsors.
Just chiming in here on the porch...
Naturally born leftie- right shoulder Purse Girl! Which side does TFM carry the Gestational Carrier's bag on?
Jon's Attorney is wise to advise that they ask for custody of Hannah only at this time. The possible testimony of 8 kids at one time, would be brutal on TFW's lil' moneymakers.
Is that tacky shoulderless fringe rag she wore on her Klassy night out by Ed Hardy?
Kristine101
Admin, are you around? I'm anxious to read your legal thoughts
on this matter. I would've bet the farm that C would be the first
to want to run to her dad's house. This just goes to show that
as much can form opinions from the things we've heard and
read, we don't know the whole story of what goes on behind
closed doors. And sadly, I suspect it's worse than we can
imagine.
Oh, and for the survey...another left-handed/right-shouldered
girl here.
Okay, let me chime in with my thoughts on the "date" story. Isn't it convenient that this story came out immediately before the story about Hannah wanting to live with Jon? If I read right, Hannah spent a few days with Jon, refusing to come home, Kate made a spectacle of herself, Kate called the police, CPS was called, custody papers were prepared…she knew that this was going to be all over the media. What can she do? Deflect, of course. That's what she always does. She calls Jeff, has him come to PA for a staged "date", and leaks it to the tabloids (along with grainy photos--can't make it look too staged) right before the story about Hannah comes out. Now people can focus on her love life instead of the custody dispute. Classic Kate.
Playing Devil's Advocate here...is it possible that when the interview was done in January, and she called out the tabloid gossip as just rumors and lies that she really wasn't dating him at the time, but just recently started seeing him (romantically)?
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I got a bridge to sell you!
In seriousness, no, I don't think that's possible. The reason being is because the initial reports from months ago said they were dating. These photos help CORROBORATE those reports.
In your scenario, there were reports they were dating, but they were actually not dating at that time, but then some time later, totally coincidental to the false reports, they decided to date.
What, did the tabloids give them the idea to date? I don't buy it. They've been dating for months, ever since AT LEAST the initial reports that they were, and the initial reports we heard were spot on, and she LIED to her fans. Just say you'd rather not discuss your dating life with the public but thank you for asking. So much better than being a flat out liar. I don't care how much you don't think it's anyone's business (which is rich coming from someone who exposes her kids so much), it's not okay to lie.
Over And Out said... 72
Any man who was disgusted by her child abuse wouldn't date her.
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He's most likely heard her side of the story and doesn't believe any of the child abuse allegations, just as she has heard his side of the story about the domestic violence.
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Looking at those two photos of him with his arm on or around Kate, he gives an air of the aggressive type of man, one of those guys who makes his intentions known if ya know what I mean. They can make you feel very uncomfortable if you give them the brush off. I'm not defending her but I hope Kate isn't as stupid as she looks.
Can Jon Gosselin Seize Custody of Just One Child From Ex, Kate?
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Simple answer, yes of COURSE he can. The court does not look at siblings like one big lump without considering each child's needs and best interest. They evaluate each child individually. While their bond with their siblings and the preference to keep them together is a big factor, it's not the only factor. I've seen dozens of cases where siblings have been split among parents for various reasons, some abuse some not.
" If the parents are really looking to figure out what’s best for their daughter, I’m sure they could come to a resolution that didn’t require overhauling their custody agreement — if they really wanted to.”
Well I can save her the trouble and answer that. Kate is not looking to do what's best for Hannah. If she really loved her and if Hannah wanted to spend more time with Jon, she would be supportive, patient and understanding of that. What do you want to risk, Kate, the child runs away? Because that WILL happen if you push kids to do something they don't want to do too much. Keep pushing it.
Looking at those two photos of him with his arm on or around Kate, he gives an air of the aggressive type of man, one of those guys who makes his intentions known if ya know what I mean.
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I always thought you can tell a lot by how a man interacts with you.
There is such a difference between a primeval and dominant "she's mine" type touch where you're corralling her all over the place, versus a loving, gentle caress because they just want to feel you close to them, and feel the softness of your skin. I know which kind of prefer.
As far as making assumptions that Kate's strange or awkward behavior proves they are not a couple, that doesn't do much for me. Even if Kate were supposedly deeply in love her behavior in relationships is going to be odd. She's an odd, awkward person. I just think we're chasing rainbows to try to analyze her body language because her body language isn't normal.
Does anyone know who has the vile Jonny B Twitter account? Is it the "sour grapes" person? Such immature behavior...
Kristen Doleva Jon's attorney looks great. Real local girl. Tons of experience on both the prosecution and defense side and with a great law firm. Good luck Jon.
I wonder if Laverne and Shirley will defend Kate.
Can you imagine if H says under oath that she doesn't want to film
anymore? TFW has said again and again that if one person doesn't
want to do the show, they'll all stop. I bet she's fit to kill right now.
I hope the kids will be with Jon this weekend.
bored, so wanted to post a vid TFW identifies with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQSAdU4Qb4
franky
Layla . . . 122
Agree with your analysis 100%. It's all just a little too convenient that the week after the kid says she wants to stay with her dad AND not film anymore, Mom, who just doesn't have time to date, is shown out on the town with the man she said she wasn't dating a mere 3 months ago. How many Kate "I want to date" stories have come out in the interim? At least a dozen. This was staged, the photos look rough, but I think that was on purpose. The story was too full of unnecessary (and unlikely) detail if it was just an "onlooker." Nice try, Kate, but I don't think anyone's buying it.
check out the clouds on the left
franky
(did she just mention a bird?)
my sil had a fixation for Anastasia? Russian princess, mine was Dirty dancing, we all have our vices, lol
franky
I wonder if TFW actually knows what happened to the Von Trapp family after they escaped...great read
franky
I'm wondering if TFW knew this custody thing was imminent,
and decided to sell the dating story out there to grab some
attention (and some cash) before the bomb dropped. Just
speculation, of course.
and YES sheeple, those are rhetorical questions, lol
frnaky
In seriousness, no, I don't think that's possible. The reason being is because the initial reports from months ago said they were dating. These photos help CORROBORATE those reports.
In your scenario, there were reports they were dating, but they were actually not dating at that time, but then some time later, totally coincidental to the false reports, they decided to date.
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I didn't say that I believed this, just that it would be one explanation and one perhaps that the sheeple would spin so Kate wouldn't appear to be a liar.
I really don't care if she has been romantically involved with him for the past decade, but if she had been dating him and she denied it (just like she has denied the boob inflation job) it's only more lie to add to her list. It's the boy who cried wolf. One of these days she just might say something close to the truth, and only the fans will believe her.
BTW...where is the "no photos, it didn't happen" sheep?
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Layla (#122), I just wrote almost the exact same thing as you
did! Your comment hadn't posted yet when I wrote mine. I am
equally suspicious of the timing of this, and TFW has proven
herself time and time again to be crafty and calculating. Crafty
and Calculating -- maybe she can hire them if Laverne and Shirley
are busy!
Ariel Winter from Modern Family just won her case to be emancipated from her abusive mother. She's 17. I can't help but wonder if this kind of thing will happen in the not too far away future for those G kids. K has no idea what she is in for.
In seriousness, no, I don't think that's possible. The reason being is because the initial reports from months ago said they were dating. These photos help CORROBORATE those reports.
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Of course it's possible. Business relationships turn into personal relationships all the time. I can understand saying that it's not probable, but to say it is not possible is just silly.
I don't think the kids want filmed. Kate talks them into it by bribing them hope it all comes out in court.
So what happens in the meantime while Hannah is back with her brothers and sisters and her mom? Does Kate put on her mommie charm and turn into the kindest mother who ever walked the face of the earth? Will she say and do everything to convince her that she's been nasty but she'll do better and she'd just die if Hannah went to live with daddy? Talk about a mind-fuck.
Business relationships turn into personal relationships all the time.
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Kayla, you missed the point of my post.
I said *I* don't think it's possible not because I don't think business relationships never turn romantic. THAT would be silly to say. I said I didn't think it was possible because it would be one hell of a coincidence after a source specifically named them as an item. What are the chances that of all the men Kate has done business with over the years, at TLC, at that fitness thing, at CA, at everything else, this just happens to be the ONE guy that a source reported she was seeing, and then *after* that so-called false rumor she just HAPPENS to fall in love with him? Think about it, the chances are pretty slim. The most logical explanation is that the original source was, once again, correct from the get go, as they often are, and that Kate has been dating him for MONTHS. I'm not sure why it's so hard for some people to believe that sometimes, once in awhile, the tabloids are spot on.
So what happens in the meantime while Hannah is back with her brothers and sisters and her mom?
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I don't know but if it's really that bad the judge can make an emergency temporary order and switch custody to Jon pending a full evaluation of the matter. For all we know, that's already been done. Kate would never admit it of course. She's never going to admit it even if he does obtain custody. In fact we might never know how this turns out. Kate sure isn't going to admit it and Jon is being quiet about it trying to protect Hannah.
As long as Kate has untruths to peddle, there will always be fools to buy them.
The train derailment story is getting wild.
The conductor is checking out. He was completely sober, demonstrated great working knowledge of the area and his train, and investigators aren't picking up on a single red flag to suggest he was being reckless or otherwise caused this. He's being as cooperative as they come and trying with all his might to give them as much details as he can possibly remember.
Now other trains in the immediate area as well as some people on the derailed train are saying the train was hit with objects. Possibly a rock, possibly gun shots. As if people on the ground nearby were targeting trains. Now the FBI is going to be investigating some broken glass to the train that is not consistent with a crash.
It's looking more and more like some outside force was involved here. It's a real shame he was thrown under the bus (train?) so quickly when the reality is he may have been trying to save his passengers by getting away from some grave danger.
It's crazy to think some rabble rousing with either rocks, bb guns or worse killed all those people. People don't think and jokes can easily go wrong.
The NTSB had it right, wait for the whole story. Good for them.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 121
Admin, are you around? I'm anxious to read your legal thoughts
on this matter. I would've bet the farm that C would be the first
to want to run to her dad's house. This just goes to show that
as much can form opinions from the things we've heard and
read, we don't know the whole story of what goes on behind
closed doors. And sadly, I suspect it's worse than we can
imagine.
I think H was just the first to refuse to be pacified by Jon and wouldn't budge on her decision to not go back to Katie. Does anyone really think she's the first to have this idea/want?
Does anyone else feel that M will stay with Kate even if all of the other children want to live with their Dad? I do.
I think H was just the first to refuse to be pacified by Jon and wouldn't budge on her decision to not go back to Katie. Does anyone really think she's the first to have this idea/want?
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It could be a development thing too. Like I said, there will come a time when all these children realize if they don't want to do something they don't have to. All children as they get older start to realize that adults can't push them around. Usually if your relationships are healthy rebellion won't be that bad. But it does happen.
It truly could just be a case of her being slightly ahead maturity wise than the other kids. The rest could easily be drawing similar conclusions in a matter of days or weeks. They're not far behind. They may decide they're ok with living with Kate, but they will realize they're having their own take on the matter now.
I'm not exactly saying H's more mature, but it actually doesn't surprise me a girl came to this realization before a boy, since girls tend to mature faster than boys. Physical changes happen during puberty but sometimes we forget all the emotional things that happen, like a child coming into their own. They're all going to even out, but they'll get there at different points in their development because they're all unique people.
I also think that it could have been something small that set her off. Sometimes that's all it takes.
Rhymes with Witch said... 96
So why just Hannah and not all of the kids? 76
Perhaps Jon is listening to advice from his lawyer.
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I'm thinking that once one brave child makes the jump, it will be much easier for some of the others to do the same. Someone has to be the trailblazer.
I'm thinking that once one brave child makes the jump, it will be much easier for some of the others to do the same. Someone has to be the trailblazer.
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As much as it's annoying the way Kate sets Hannah apart, some of the things Kate said about her are true. She does appear to be the leader of the six of them, very decisive, pushes the others around a bit, not at all afraid of the rest of them.
She is a leader, she is the trailblazer. It actually makes perfect sense it's Hannah, especially when you take into account how she's been usurped by Mady recently. It backfired big time on Doofus.
Playing devil's advocate here. Let's say that Jon does get custody of one or more of the kids. TFW has brought them up to feel very entitled. Don't you think that when any of them saw what the others have that they don't have that they'd want to go back? It would be hard to become a "have-not" since TFW has always given them things to keep them happy. Jon would not be able to do that.
I predict there will be at least one more tup to jump ship. I give it six months. Something made H want to leave, and fear didn't stop her. It was very foretelling when Kate said she can't picture having 8 teens in the home, during the MD special. She may not need to worry about that.
Kristine101
I will always believe she had or is still having an affair with Steve. Perhaps his reluctance to leave Gina has something to do with hooking up with Jeff. Regardless, she is not a cold fish. I totally believe her ex-fiancé.
As far as making assumptions that Kate's strange or awkward behavior proves they are not a couple, that doesn't do much for me. Even if Kate were supposedly deeply in love her behavior in relationships is going to be odd. She's an odd, awkward person. I just think we're chasing rainbows to try to analyze her body language because her body language isn't normal.
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Yes, her body language is anything but normal but it's HERS. We've been commenting her body language for years. It's exactly like her facial expressions and her dead eyes-the opposite of what she's trying to convince everyone else and herself.
This woman rubbed her kids backs (or faces?) with her feet. Someone commented how she grabs their hands and reefs them up instead of making it comfortable for them.
She "says" she loves her kids, but every single action, word, her agenda speaks to the opposite. So this boyfriend has finally come to fruition (to the public) only because it SERVES her.
She very well may think she loves this guy, but it's HER version of ♪love♪
AuntieAnn said... 144
So what happens in the meantime while Hannah is back with her brothers and sisters and her mom? Does Kate put on her mommie charm and turn into the kindest mother who ever walked the face of the earth? Will she say and do everything to convince her that she's been nasty but she'll do better and she'd just die if Hannah went to live with daddy? Talk about a mind-fuck.
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Yep and she'll try everything in her bag of masterminding tricks to get Hannah to recant. I remember how she talked about how she just lay prostrate on the couch sobbing because she "wanted just one more" baby. She'll not let this go until she gets the result she wants. Try as I might, I cannot conjure up a positive result to this story.
PA Dutch Mom said... 98
We saw Kiss Me Kate on Broadway right before 9/11. I remember watching it closely after that, and saw it close, unfortunately, because the attendance for that show, and many others, just was too low to carry the show further.
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Tucker's Mom, do you remember who was cast as Fred? We saw it with Brian Stokes Mitchell, who won a Tony for his performance. What an incredible actor and singer. He also played Don Quixote in Man of La Mancha on Broadway. I'm a fan!
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Yes! Wow, did you start a Googling feud between DH and me this morning!!
What a lovely day we had. DH and I, and his parents took the Weehawken ferry into NYC and went to TKTS after lunch at Carmines.
Oh, thank you for the memory!
Something that really bothers me about the kids being asked
to massage their mom is that the subtext seems to be, it's
their fault that she's stressed and sore. She never misses
an opportunity to remind them in one way or another that
they've been a burden to her. The bed rest, the bills, it's
one of her vs. 8 of them, she's doing this all alone, etc.
I can't imagine how that would effect a child's self esteem --
if they have any at all.
Millicent said... 104
A date? What's that? LOL. But seriously, if I were out with a fellow and thought he might tuck his arm around me, I think I'd place the purse over whatever shoulder was opposite him. That's what I used to do, back in my dating days.
As to Jon seeking custody of Hannah only, maybe his attorney told him that since she is specifically asking to live with her dad and perhaps has described some incidents involving Kate, that his chance of prevailing are much stronger than before. Maybe if the other children some day decide they too want to live with their dad, he can request custody of them at that time too.
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Not even 1/2 a date??!!
I don't have any experience with custody, but would hope that a child can choose who they wish to live with, and that severe circumstances don't have to be proven in order to award that.
I think a child knows where they will thrive best.
Again, Jon chose his dad, and there was no drama about it. He seems to have a great relationship with his mom, but perhaps he knew that his dad was best for him at the time.
I know for sure, that if I were a kid, I'd choose Jon.
Then again, I'm a formers "Daddy's girl", and proud of it!
I can't believe Hannah would live with Jon without Leah. I hope this will encourage other G kids to speak up and maybe Jon can get custody of more of them
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She might no understand the full gravity of such a decision. I think and would hope that a child could "try it on" for a period of time, outside of a court order.
I know, I mean, I KNOW, Kate would take this as a personal affront, and of course, she shouldn't. No parent should.
There would be hell to pay for any child who chooses Jon.
I have no doubt that she will tear her garment for her children, as she has for her family and friends.
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/can-jon-gosselin-seize-custody-of-just-one-child-119046442392.html
If Jon goes ahead and files a motion for change of custody, a psychiatrist or therapist will typically be appointed to investigate what is going on. And that could have ramifications for Hannah’s siblings as well. “If the court uses reasoning that ultimately decides it’s not in the best interests of the children to be filmed, that standard could be applied to all of the other children as well,” says Newman. “And if it’s proven that Kate is being cruel to the kids, every one of them is game for a custody change.”
At the same time, he’ll be under scrutiny, too. “Courts will look at his stability,” says the attorney. “What is his situation and what can he provide his kids? What’s the child’s life going to be like with him? He’s a DJ — will he be out all night? There to help with homework?” Going against Jon is the fact that Kate has already been compared to Jon and deemed the more suitable caregiver.
I'm thinking of how this whole thing must be so painful emotionally
for Jon, and of course for H. But TFW? All I can think of is rage --
burning, seething rage. Those children are her property. She's
in charge, and that's never gonna change. I don't know if she
can even see straight to attempt a rainbows and unicorns tweet
this weekend.
She is a manipulator and it takes some people years to realize that they are puppets. Some people run the minute they sense something is off, some stay for years. These kids were born into their situation and the time has finally come (as we predicted) where they are finally becoming aware of what their mother really is.
I hope H. is just coming into her own and the lightbulbs are going off.
She is a vampire sucking the life out of her kids to give herself "life".
Those kids deserve to be thought of as their own person and not be controlled, coerced, used & abused, ignored & disregarded.
Stay strong Jon, and so glad to hear he has a good attorney. Too bad he can't get the team that defended him when she sued him last.
I predict there will be at least one more tup to jump ship. I give it six months. Something made H want to leave, and fear didn't stop her. It was very foretelling when Kate said she can't picture having 8 teens in the home, during the MD special. She may not need to worry about that.
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Yup. Victims come out of the woodwork when they see that others have and it wasn't the end of the world.
I'm sure Jon has reassured H. that anything she tells him will be believed.
I believe there is talk and calm discussions of anything and everything THEY want to divulge.
She is seeing that the monster her mother has painted DOES NOT EXIST.
Stockholm syndrome does not occur with every kidnapped brainwashed victim. All it takes is ONE strong enough to stand up. Others follow.
I'm just still perplexed as to why C. hasn't gone to his father's in months....
well maybe not-he's the one she's worked over the hardest.
If I were a betting woman, my money would be on the scenario that TLC dug this Jeff guy up late last year and contracted him to pretend to be dating Kate. With TLC trying to air their "update" specials and the CA airdate imminent, they knew that the CA contestants knew what was going on with Kate and Steve and were speaking publicly of it. TLC planted the millionaire Jeff story, but perhaps there was a disagreement about the money. Jeff didn't go along with it at that time. His brother spoke out and said they never dated. Kate was forced to backpedal and dribble out some quick BS story. Before this, TLC tried planting that story last summer that Kate and Steve "broke up," he left Kate's employ and Steve recommitted to his wife. Yeah right. This is not uncommon, half of the job duties of a Hollywood publicist involves arranging fake dates and relationships for closeted celebs and such.
Fast forward to last month, then there is this: http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-cheating-bodyguard-photos-tlc-covered-up-affair/
Now they really need to pony up to the only sucker in the world willing to admit publicly to fake dating Kate for $$$. Fast. A photo op is quickly arranged for proof.
I believe Steve and Kate are a couple. Have been for a loong time. I also believe Gina and Steve have an "agreement." Gina has all the power here and could ruin Kate with one phone call. Imagine the book she could write. All IMHO, of course.
I'm thinking of how this whole thing must be so painful emotionally
for Jon, and of course for H. But TFW? All I can think of is rage --
burning, seething rage.
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OMG YES!
She took their potty training accidents as a personal insult, a deliberate one! wtf?
I'm thinking of how this whole thing must be so painful emotionally
for Jon, and of course for H. But TFW? All I can think of is rage --
burning, seething rage.
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And/or she's resorting to blubbering sobbing cries of martyrdom and playing the victim.
Scenes from the sky jump
Even if Jon does not get custody of Hannah, the potential for some seriously damaging information to get out is there. Hannah and the other children will be interviewed. Kate's treatment of them, the circumstances of them being filmed (is Kate forcing them? Is TLC filming them against their will?), will all come out. What are the potential ramifications when it comes to TLC? If any of the kids have been filmed against their will, TLC may be in for some serious legal problems. A company can't just force minor children to work, even if they have the parent's permission, can they?
I definitely think that this will lay the groundwork for future legal action against Kate and TLC. Both will be scrutinized, and once those kids reach adulthood, I think TLC is going to see some major lawsuits from some or all of them. And there will be a history of complaints about filming the kids to back up any future lawsuits, which bolsters the kids' credibility. The are minors, they can't consent, they don't want to film, and TLC, a big, greedy corporation, forces them to work anyway.
I keep thinking of that video where the sextuplets were being dropped off by Jon, and the van was stopped at the gate. The kids were crying hysterically, begging Jon not to go. They didn't want to go home. That was 5 or 6 years ago, and their home lives were already hellish back them. Hellish enough that they didn't want to go home. That is just heartbreaking.
If I were a betting woman, my money would be on the scenario that TLC dug this Jeff guy up late last year and contracted him to pretend to be dating Kate
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Maybe, but wouldn't they pick someone with a cleaner background? Surely they could find some nice single guy, maybe divorced, with no criminal history or other baggage, no name changes on his background, no messy battles with his ex that involved domestic violence, no faux charities that no one can find a record of.
Or is TLC really that sloppy?
NJGal51 said... 154
Playing devil's advocate here. Let's say that Jon does get custody of one or more of the kids. TFW has brought them up to feel very entitled. Don't you think that when any of them saw what the others have that they don't have that they'd want to go back? It would be hard to become a "have-not" since TFW has always given them things to keep them happy. Jon would not be able to do that.
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It's likely her Golden Platter method of rearing kids has made one or more of them feel entitled. Let's hope Kate hasn't propagated a little brood of narcissists not unlike herself. I do see some of her traits in a couple of the girls and it's not attractive at all.
As far as custody is concerned, won't Kate's past brushes with CPS come into the record? She has had to be told not to send moldy food in her kids' lunches. She had to be ordered to stop locking the kids in their rooms at night. These are serious lapses in judgment for any parent. They could get sick from eating moldy food. I read somewhere that a judge ordered her to stop locking the kids in their rooms because, in the event of a fire, the kids wouldn't be able to escape and that would constitute manslaughter. Add to that the fact that the kids' rooms are so far away from each other--if there were a fire, she probably wouldn't be able to get to all of those rooms to let the kids out. The kids would be trapped. That house in itself, because of the layout, is not a good place to raise children. What if someone sneaked into the basement and snatched one of the boys? Or came in the side door and went up to the little girls' room? She's so far away she wouldn't even know. There is documentation of her abuse and disregard for the kids' safety to back up anything else Jon or Hannah (or some of the other kids) have to say.
Sue_Buddy said... 158
She'll not let this go until she gets the result she wants. Try as I might, I cannot conjure up a positive result to this story.
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Nor can I. If Kate can't see the damage caused by insisting her kids' lives play out on television by now she never will. The cars keep piling up on this train wreck and still she refuses to switch tracks.
Maybe, but wouldn't they pick someone with a cleaner background?
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TLC isn't an upstanding network.-(just look at the programs)-
Why didn't they do background checks on Mama June and her past lover?
Why didn't they do a background check on Blankenship? Example Kate is a child/animal/spouse abuser yet she's still on the air.
IMO TLC does't give a F--k who they hired on put on TV.
My .02 and Layla both of you are spot on!
Admin. Maybe they didn't want the perfect guy. Aren't reality shows all about drama?
Vanessa said... 168
She took their potty training accidents as a personal insult, a deliberate one! wtf?
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That's because, per Kate on the Mother's Day Special - "By 18 months they know right from wrong, good from bad". So of course she would consider potty accidents as disobedience.
Assuming Jon got custody of Hannah alone: I have no idea where Jon lives, but would Hannah meet up with Kate at the bus stop for school, or are there different bus stops ? I do applaud H for her brave actions and Jon for his reaction to her complaints .
Morning to y'all up there on the Veranda. am having trouble getting the pages with pic of KKG and her lover boy toy. Can anyone help. In the mean time I will be gettin dressed in my flower mumu and matching crocks. My new granny glasses really seal the deal.Now I Can see all the wrinkles on KKG's aging face. Did he meet the kids yet?
Cheers to .02 and Layla! Wow, we have some great analysts on this porch!
Stay strong, Jon. So happy you have an attorney and are able to fight back for H.
NJGal51 said... 154
Playing devil's advocate here. Let's say that Jon does get custody of one or more of the kids. TFW has brought them up to feel very entitled. Don't you think that when any of them saw what the others have that they don't have that they'd want to go back? It would be hard to become a "have-not" since TFW has always given them things to keep them happy. Jon would not be able to do that.
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This is exactly what I see happening. It's a scenario as old as time itself. These kids are all old enough now to know where their bread is buttered; and unfortunately, it isn't with Jon.
The article reads: Kate Gosselin- My New Rich Boyfriend Can't Keep His Hands Off Me!
Wow, if that's not a Farm Utility to us and the world, I don't know what is! Showboat! Also, I hate it for the kids to have to see and deal with that.
I bet Kate wouldn't let any kid take anything from HER house if they ended up going to Jon's. Special toys, keepsakes, nothing. I am convinced she tells them they will lose everything if they go there or stop filming.
PatK said... 181
This is exactly what I see happening. It's a scenario as old as time itself. These kids are all old enough now to know where their bread is buttered; and unfortunately, it isn't with Jon.
EXCEPT, I imagine H's upkeep money would go with her, as would some child support from Kate to Jon. This could get very complicated, but Kate's had the benefit of all 8 kids paying for themselves for a very long time. So why shouldn't Jon get the same benefit if he has one or more of the kids living with him?
Looks like Kate participated in a Girls On The Run event today.
Shan @shananagiiins · 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Glad I got to meet you on my birthday! #GOTR #KatePlus8 #favoriteshow #canibabysit #mymomwasyournurse pic.twitter.com/dQpR1Phf0p
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFIhid9UsAEorY2.jpg
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 18m18 minutes ago
@shananagiiins great to meet you too! Tell your mom I said hi! I’m glad that run is done, you?😉 #WeHadFunTho #HappyBirthday
Milo's going to be drooling again, not only because Kate did something that has to do with running, but she has shorts on in the picture.
FormerlyDuped (178)
I doubt that Kate even gets out of the van when she drops the kids off/picks them up. Hannah can just meet up with the other kids and get on the bus without interference from her mother. Of course, Kate might
use the opportunity to give H nasty looks or make comments. That would probably just make H even more glad she's with her dad.
With regards to any entitlement issues, H already knows what is available at her dad's house. I grew up with an abusive step-father. No amount of "stuff" can make up for the abuse at home. I would have given up anything to get rid of the feeling of dread I got when walking home from school, knowing I would soon have to walk in the door and he would be there. I recall getting my tonsils out, and when I was at the hospital everyone was nice to me--the doctors, nurses, etc. My stepfather didn't come visit, which made it even better. I cried when I had to leave to go home. I told my mother I was crying because my throat hurt. I didn't want to make her feel bad. She was just as much his victim as I was. There was money, there was "stuff", but none of it ever made up for the abuse, and I do not think I would have missed any of it if I could have a place to feel safe.
Hannah is a brave girl for seeking out help. That took a lot of courage. Thank God she had someone she trusted (her dad) to go to. She knew he would try to help her. Dad's home is her safe place.
AuntieAnn said... 174
Nor can I. If Kate can't see the damage caused by insisting her kids' lives play out on television by now she never will. The cars keep piling up on this train wreck and still she refuses to switch tracks.
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I remember during a couch interview, maybe the one during the tups 10th birthday, when she insisted on another circus theme against the tups wishes, she briefly eluded to how to, to paraphrase, she keeps talking up what she wants until she's convinced everyone it's what they want.
That is just a part of how Kate beats everyone down. She is in control and that never is going to change. She'll threaten, cajole, cry, bring up her "shingles" and chest pains continually, and like a dog with a bone, won't give up until, once again she has it her way.
I think she enjoys it and considers each little roadblock a great challenge and she's all about winning, no matter the damage done along the way.
Certainly Kate is playing mind games with the kids. That's captured on film. But I guess I don't see what the younger kids would have to give up if they went to their dad's house, except maybe a TLC paid vacation every so often. And that ends up being a "not a vacation" because it's regimented and they have to work in front of cameras to earn it.
Surely Jon would provide food & clothing and I'm sure plenty more away from home activities than they get now outside the konpound gates.
Are the younger kids involved in any sports, activities etc. outside of what they get at school? Not that I'm aware. Apparently Hannah weighed the pros and cons and at least initially believes her life and emotional well being is better served by her dad.
I can't imagine what must have happened for her to be so distraught that she was willing to stand up to her mom, knowing the possible consequences of her actions.
I saw the picture of TFW at the girls on the run event. She's carrying a nail file. Why? I think her nails will survive the event or isn't TFM there to protect her and she needs some sort of weapon to protect herself from the screaming masses. I also wonder if she called ROL to let them know she'd be running so that they can cover the "story". LOL, I don't think the event advertised that there would be a special guest appearance by the one and only, TLC star....I am glad to see that she's participating in a school event though.
NJGal51 said... 189
I saw the picture of TFW at the girls on the run event. She's carrying a nail file.
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I don't think that's a nail file. It looks more like a Sharpie. Perhaps she was signing an autograph for the girl before the picture was taken.
IF one of the kids went to live with Jon and the tabloid stories blamed it on cruelty and not wanting to film, wouldn't TLC drop her like a hot potato?
The "elevens" are back in the running picture, LOL.
My guess is that Mady and a few others will stick with Kate for the time being, but once Hannah is out if the home, a few others will defect. Basically, this publicity is poison for TLC. We have raised kids and just as predicted, some are becoming independent and maturing. If they have good friends in school, they are realizing the way it is with their mother is NOT normal. It's what happened to me. I considered my best friend's family a role model on what a loving family was.
What a surprise. K has a selfie w Hannah and Leah at that run.
It may turn out that Hannah changes her mind and ends up back with Kate. But this is the first real crack among the kids, and I predict it will not be the last. Kate might be able to temporarily sweet talk Hannah into changing her mind, but she can't change her underlying controlling and angry personality. Whatever stirred up Hannah will happen again. The other kids saw Jon defy their mother and let Hannah stay with him beyond the court-appointed custody time. If any of them are also wishing they could go live full time with Jon, this might help them feel braver about speaking up to their dad or to others outside the family about their wishes.
So glad to read about Ariel Winters, the young actress on Modern Family, who is now legally emancipated from her mother (an apparent Kate Gosselin type). In her case, she had supportive family members, including a sister who let her move in with her, and her father as well. I am guessing that Ariel's mother had full custody of her, and I do not know why her father did not try to get custody. Perhaps he does not live in southern California.
LOL @ Tucker's Mom and "not even 1/2 a date?" As my son has gotten older and closer to becoming an adult and moving forward with his own life, I've been dealing with impending empty nest syndrome. Since early 2014, I've been making small changes to my life, including a healthier eating style, slowly losing weight, and getting out more with friends and family. A big deal for me was having a gentleman in front of me in line at the bank the other day strike up a conversation with me. And some guy held the door for me as I was going into the gas station, saying "here you go pretty lady." Perhaps one day , I'll be ready to ask friends to set me up on a date, but not yet. I'm still focusing on getting myself to where I want to be, physically and mentally, and I'm enjoying the journey :)
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 148
The train derailment story is getting wild.
The conductor is checking out. He was completely sober, demonstrated great working knowledge of the area and his train, and investigators aren't picking up on a single red flag to suggest he was being reckless or otherwise caused this. He's being as cooperative as they come and trying with all his might to give them as much details as he can possibly remember.
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I also find myself opening my mind. I'm a bit ashamed to say that I was directing blame on him at first. "Really, you get a lawyer but can't remember anything?"
But... I'm not getting a bad vibe here, and I'd like to think my radar is spot on.
I think we really have to let the process happen, and not crucify this guy.
DH and I have a very personal, close connection to Amtrak, and I know that it's a great company.
I'm proud of Philly, and Amtrak insofar as how they're handling this.
Just for the record, I'll eat my hat if there are any changes whatsoever. TLC will continue to occasionally film Kate and her captives, life will go on as usual, no change in custody. Don't like feeling this way, would rather believe H will be freed but I believe Kate will or has already reigned her in some way or another.
Picture that Kate tweeted of her, Hannah and Leah.
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/599620519651074048/photo/1
Wonder where Alexis was. In the photo that Kate tweeted of the girls in her bed, Alexis was the one wearing the Girls On The Run t-shirt, so she must have been participating in the program also.
Oh wait--it's Hannah that's making the news, so she had to make sure that Hannah's in the picture. Damage control?
Jillygee said... 194
What a surprise. K has a selfie w Hannah and Leah at that run.
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Yep. See ME? See Hannah? See Leah? See how happy my sweet lil girlies are to be with ME? They hate their dead father.
Good grief Kate, people aren't as stupid as you think.
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