Rainbirdie: The girls said that Kate promises certain things if she want them to do certain things and they weigh the pros and cons and decide if they want to do them. We know the kids were bribed at that photo-shoot- Kate passed out toys at the end and said "I want to reward you' when Leah did not want to wear the silver dress.She also suggests giving them cash to do things like go in the freezing cold pool!
localyocul : I think Kate would accommodate Cara since she herself really only eat 'veges' and it has made Cara slimmer, a positive thing to Kate.Cara could eat the 'famous K8 salads" with her... Remember her suggesting to Mady in the restaurant in Maine to have a salad?
Prairie Mary, I am sorry for your dad's recurrence. My thoughts are with you. As to the Willis clan, I am withholding judgment, but I am cynical after all we'VE seen
The Duggar problem, among many, is even an unlikely story now seems quite likely. The Gawker story about JimBobtying a boy's hand together as punishment for masturbating does not seem far fetched given their weird obsession 're normal sexual urges.
Kate looks like those boobies got a little help again. Maybe the 4 days missing with no contact story was because she was getting surgery. Does Jeff like them bigger than Steve or were they sagging too much?
Kate does not have to accomodate a vegetarian diet. I firmly believe that 99% of the time either the meals are from the paid Chef or Mady and Cara are cooking.
Thanks Admin. for posting the above pictures. I must say I do like the dress, appropriate for the particular event, but the shoes - a big NO NO. What was she thinking? Surely flats would be more suitable for a walk about particularly after having broken her foot(?) er..her toe a year or so ago.
I cannot believe how little has been said about the PA thingy....she really is falling into total obscurity....Kate who??? Oh yeah...she sucked on DWtS, was a mean control freak bitch who hated her kids, boinked the body guard and just snagged a no good absent parent shady millionaire right??? You mean THAT Kate right?? 😂yeah..,,she's got quite the legacy
Thanks Jane, Millicent, JoyinVirginia, for your kind thoughts 😃 But even with the trials my family keeps going through, we are still happier than tfw, who has left her extended family far behind her. I hope that Jon gets the 8 together with grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins regularity. It must be so hard on all concerned. She looks good because she spends money the 8 have earned to keep herself nipped, tucked, vacuumed and filled to keep stay that way. If you have the big bucks, no one ever needs to look old these days. But she will never lose that stink-eye expression I love so much, she will always have that look! Enjoy the afternoon everyone!
TLC hurt themselves by so harshly limiting who could go to the xtr speshel event. If they had let less brainwashed people in there would have been more controversy and more press.
Thanks for the photo link Sue Buddy! The dress is really cute. The long hair looks like it would be hot in the summer sun. It's been a while since its been so long, maybe time for a new hair style and photo spread to document it.
I just got my hair trimmed really short for summer. My hair was getting too. Long and it was hot esp when we went to the beach.
It seems to me the only thing a boy could do with his hands tied in front is...oh never mind.
I'm also interested in the head shaving shaming. It seems so archaic to publicly put a person on display like that. Kind of like the perp walks of the 1940s.
Makes you wonder who actually picked the dress, she said snarkily. It's good taste is certainly not part of Kate's fashion sense. The shoes were ridiculous.
Things don't look to good for this upcoming interview. The link above goes to an interview with Hunter Frederick who is a Christian focused pr expert. He has publicly denied that the duggars are.clients. he discusses criteria his firm use in approving clients. He thinks the public wants to see the legal process for Josh, and because of the statute of limitations that won't happen. He doesn't think the public will forgive or forget with out legal consequences for Josh.
Has anybody seen those popular waist cinchers that greatly reduced the waist if worn over a period of time? I don't know where in the heck all the internal organs go but apparently it will work if you wear it on a full-time basis for a while. ------------------------------- Why do you think Victorian ladies fainted so frequently? One of the organs that gets squeezed unmercifully by a corset is the lungs. When you're surprised or shocked, you tend to gasp. If you try to gasp and can't get any air in, you'll keel over.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 10 That's the first dress I've ever seen from her I actually wanted. Really cute. I wish I was good at figuring out what it is. ================================
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 10 That's the first dress I've ever seen from her I actually wanted. Really cute. I wish I was good at figuring out what it is.
Thanks Jane, Millicent, JoyinVirginia, for your kind thoughts 😃 But even with the trials my family keeps going through, we are still happier than tfw, who has left her extended family far behind her. I hope that Jon gets the 8 together with grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins regularity. It must be so hard on all concerned. She looks good because she spends money the 8 have earned to keep herself nipped, tucked, vacuumed and filled to keep stay that way. If you have the big bucks, no one ever needs to look old these days. But she will never lose that stink-eye expression I love so much, she will always have that look! Enjoy the afternoon everyone!
Maybe someone here can answer a question for me. Is there a big difference between female and male narcissists? If Katie were a guy and father would her/his actions have been different? Would public opinion be different?
Admin.....check Ann Taylor loft....she may have snagged a gift card (snark) and we all know she can easily spend $500 a month there according to her journal.
Has Radar been reading here? Funny thing is, at least from the crappy photos, that "engagement?" ring looks like her old one!
Hmm... on the heels of Kate peeshah-ing rumors that she's eloping with Mr. Millionaire Droopy Drawers, she shows up to a huge function with a ring on that finger.
So "the ring" has finally been spotted by the tabs. I'm sure Katie's thinking, what took you so long? Just another lame attempt to keep her name in the rag mags. Yawn.
Slight OT: The Gardners(you remember them, the parents who had the miracle quads-The Quad Squad exploitation debacle) are having a meet and greet this week. They are now literally parading their kids the exact same way the Dionne Quints were paraded. Who treats their kids like circus animals, taking them in public places specifically to allow people to stare? I am losing my faith in humanity, honestly I am so beyond disgusted. Not to mention these are premature quadruplets, they can't possibly be up to date on their shots, their immune systems are not sufficiently developed and two of the quads barely got off of oxygen a month ago or so. And their parents are now taking them to a crowded place where they can catch anything. God, what is wrong with people?
Math Girl said... 18 Anonymous said... 187 (Leslie)
Has anybody seen those popular waist cinchers that greatly reduced the waist if worn over a period of time? I don't know where in the heck all the internal organs go but apparently it will work if you wear it on a full-time basis for a while. ------------------------------- Why do you think Victorian ladies fainted so frequently? ****** I think the Kardashian wastes of spaces have been taking selfish using these implements of torture. They are idiots. Dolts. Truly stupid. You can't "train" your waist. You can squish your organs and damage them. You can constrict tissue and temporarily change your shape. But, you can't bind your body into submission.
Well, in my opinion, I'd say the parents caused this whole mess so yes, they ought to be the ones that have to talk about it. Josh was 14; yes, he should have known it was wrong, but dang, in that warped household, who knows what these kids think. At 14, what is he supposed to do, insist that his parents turn him in to the authorities? He, like Michelle and the rest of the family, do what Boob tells them to do.
So Boob ought to be the one that has his feet held to the fire on this one. I lay more blame on him than anyone else. He is, according to him, the head of his household, so yep, he's 100% responsible.
I also think a good reason for Jim Bob and Babykins to give an interview is how many questions they can dodge by saying they want to respect the privacy of others involved and/or they won't answer as they don't want to speak for them.
Well, in my opinion, I'd say the parents caused this whole mess so yes, they ought to be the ones that have to talk about it. Josh was 14; yes, he should have known it was wrong, but dang, in that warped household, who knows what these kids think. At 14, what is he supposed to do, insist that his parents turn him in to the authorities? He, like Michelle and the rest of the family, do what Boob tells them to do.
So Boob ought to be the one that has his feet held to the fire on this one. I lay more blame on him than anyone else. He is, according to him, the head of his household, so yep, he's 100% responsible. *************************** Josh chose to take a high profile job knowing full well that he held quite a dirty little secret, so I don't know why he shouldn't be expected to speak for himself. He is no longer 14.
(Leslie) Frederick explained that his clients go through an intense vetting process to determine whether they are capable of being helped and whether it's worth the company's investment. Despite rumors that he was hired to help the Duggars get through the scandal, Frederick said things did not work out with the Duggar family for reasons he could not reveal. _______ I found the statement that this Christian PR rep. said that things did not work out with the Duggars for reasons he can not disclose. I can only imagine. The Duggars are not going to listen to anybody when it comes to their family.
I just don't know what they could possibly say that would generate a turn around of public opinion, lj
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I don't know either. Their arrogance is incredible. They actually think they're going to be able to explain this.
It reminds me of how murderer Michael Peterson wanted to take the stand at his murder trial. He ended up listening to his attorneys in the end and didn't testify, but these people all think they will actually be able to explain.
I don't think anyone has ever told the Duggars no before, and it shows. They don't deal with it well.
PJ: That cartoon is in the paper itself. It is in the Chicago Tribune Sunday May 30, 2015 in the first section. It might be online, I don't read online.
Stop the presses. The sheeple and the haters all agree her dress was on target!!
Thanks to those who found it. For only 60 bucks I'm going to have to get this one. If Jeff Millionaire got it for her, he sure is a cheapskate. I wonder if he told her it costs a million bucks, baby. He's totally the sort of rich guy who would buy his wife fake pearls.
Cara has slimmed down. Good for her. Looks like Kate still hasn't taken them to the dermatologist yet.
Yes, those bobbies manage to grow as Kate slims down. Amazing. Her rings look like they are about to fall off her fingers. Wonder if she planted that Radar story. Definitely not a new ring on her left hand. I would question more about who gave her the heart necklace.
I liked the dress too but the shoes were atrocious with it. And that hair!
LOL. That face she had in that picture with the young guy! What was her problem?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 39 I just don't know what they could possibly say that would generate a turn around of public opinion, lj
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I don't know either. Their arrogance is incredible. They actually think they're going to be able to explain this. ****** For sanity's sake, I think it's important to remember that there are people out there that will gloss over this, and still watch. There are people who will be silly happy if there's a spin off with the older girls. Trying to apply common sense (and decency) just doesn't apply.
It seems unreal to me that TLC might be formulating a spin off. Do these young women just ignore the elephant in the room and pretend they're not victims of their brother? Do their parents never appear on their show, and if they do, do they all act like nothing happened? That their own parents didn't re-victimize them by making them live with their molester? Does Josh and his family cease to exist?
Children or minors are really the only ways to describe them if you aren't going to bother to say their (shocking) ages. ***** And the media has to stop pussyfooting around the truth; Josh molested 4 of his sisters.
ROL is a laugh a minute. If you look at the pics, 2 of the pics are of Kates right hand, in which she does wear a ring on the finger, that is not her left hand, only the one in the circle, with the sharpie in it has a ring on it. Kate is a leftie. Unless they reversed the pics. But 2 of thoses pics are right hand. But then Kate does wear rings on both hands. It means nothing, must be PR crap from Kate camp, must need money.
I don't care if Jim Bob covered up Josh's molestations. I don't care if he delayed reporting and skirted around the laws so that Josh was never held accountable legally. Josh is a grown man with a 4th child on the way, and he needs to stop letting his parents decide how things are going to go down and man up. At 14, he had no choice when Jim Bob perpetrated the grand cover up. As an adult, Josh has been complicit in the cover up and has taken measures to stop the information from becoming public. Josh actively pursued politics, where he used his position as a bully pulpit, claiming moral superiority over homosexuals. He's been pointing his finger at others when his past makes me want to vomit.
It truly scares me how Republicans have cozied up to the likes of the Duggars, who are simply simple, ignorant people who happen to have struck gold with a tv show. It scared me how much power they've wielded.
May I put in a plug for Nordstroms? Their online site is fantastic and while their regular clothes and accessories are pricey, the sale area is fantastic! Plus, they have free shipping and free returns - they pay the postage.
I don't care if Jim Bob covered up Josh's molestations. I don't care if he delayed reporting and skirted around the laws so that Josh was never held accountable legally. Josh is a grown man with a 4th child on the way, and he needs to stop letting his parents decide how things are going to go down and man up.
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100% agree. Mama and Daddy should not be responsible for handling this for him now.
Either the whole family needs to STFU, or if someone is going to speak, Josh should speak, and of course the victims if they want to. This Mama and Daddy handling Josh's messes is just plain cowardly. He clearly wanted to be a politician for heaven sake, so grow up and deal with your problems.
ROL are a bunch of nit-wits. If you type in KG pics, and look through the pics you will see that ring, on different fingers and hands. and kate just shot it down, it was a ring she got for her 40th and wears it.
Of course Kate could be lying, she lied about dating, so who knows.
Jane said... 54 May I put in a plug for Nordstroms? Their online site is fantastic and while their regular clothes and accessories are pricey, the sale area is fantastic! Plus, they have free shipping and free returns - they pay the postage. ******* I've gotten some good deals from Nordy's. I've been a fan of online shopping with them for years, since I bought a pair of Ugg boots for a really great price!
Maybe someone here can answer a question for me. Is there a big difference between female and male narcissists? If Katie were a guy and father would her/his actions have been different? Would public opinion be different?
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I don't know the answer to that though I suspect there is not much of a difference. However, the stereotypical roles that women and men play in families I think has created situations where female narcissists are much harder to deal with, especially if you are their child.
I think kids can be more resilient to a stern narcissistic father; perhaps he is often at work and you don't see him much anyway. But when it comes from the mother who you're supposed to go to for drying your tears, and who is more likely to stay home with you and traditionally spent more time with the kids (traditionally, don't freak out), it's harder to deal with. Of course as society moves out of those roles that may all change.
Either the whole family needs to STFU, or if someone is going to speak, Josh should speak, and of course the victims if they want to. This Mama and Daddy handling Josh's messes is just plain cowardly. He clearly wanted to be a politician for heaven sake, so grow up and deal with your problems. ************ Josh should be the first one to face the firing line, not Mommy and Daddy. I think this makes Josh look really weak.
May I put in a plug for Nordstroms? Their online site is fantastic and while their regular clothes and accessories are pricey, the sale area is fantastic! Plus, they have free shipping and free returns - they pay the postage.
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Yes I love them. Whenever I really like something usually I put it in my cart but don't buy it, hen check it every week or so. It'll go on sale.
Returns are a breeze.
I bought my very favorite boots for them, Hunter Wellingtons, for a fraction of the retail price.
Kate paid: $110. for that dress if she bought it at Macys. The dress is a : Michael Kors. If you go to type in Michael kors, and go to the one at Macys, the dress is on the second page. And if you go to Michael Kors official site his dresses are $1,000 or more.
P.J. said... 77 BTW, her ring finger seems occupied. Is this usual? I don't really pay that much attention. Or is she doing it for the kids, like she did during the divorce? May 30, 2015 at 12:03 PM
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That's right, I sold that story to ROL. I needed rent money.
100% agree. Mama and Daddy should not be responsible for handling this for him now.
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This isn't about speaking for Josh. This is about saving their gravy train and their ministry. Just think of all the souls lost if their show is cancelled.
Stop the presses. The sheeple and the haters all agree her dress was on target!!
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Except for one who said it was a cheapo for fifty bucks. Defending Kate here...if she was frugal for this purchase, she's criticized for being cheap. If she had paid in the hundreds of dollars, she's accused of paying way too much and spending the kids' money.
So Boob ought to be the one that has his feet held to the fire on this one. I lay more blame on him than anyone else. He is, according to him, the head of his household, so yep, he's 100% responsible. *************************** Josh chose to take a high profile job knowing full well that he held quite a dirty little secret, so I don't know why he shouldn't be expected to speak for himself. He is no longer 14. ----
I certainly think Josh should be held accountable for his actions, don't get me wrong. But as a kid at 14, Boob made all the decisions regarding the molestations. But I also don't think it's fair to tar and feather Josh for decisions BOOB made all those years ago. I hope whatever comes out of this ridiculous Fox news interview further established this show needs to be canceled. -- Concerning Kate's dress, at $60 or even $100, piecing and patching mommas of 8 don't buy dresses that pricey. Piecing and patching mommas wear what they already have in the closet.
I think it's fine to refer to a teenager as a young woman but in this case it's not okay because it minimizes and misleads about the true nature of who he molested. And good point about how so many keep leaving out it was his SISTERS.
Because a young woman can mean someone in their teens, 20's and even 30's, it's damn misleading. These were helpless little ones, many of whom didn't even know what sex was. Some were sleeping for God sake!
This isn't about speaking for Josh. This is about saving their gravy train and their ministry.
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For them and them alone that's what it's about.
I think they would throw Josh to the wolves if it meant they could keep that train a-chugging. Actually, we'll see for ourselves exactly how much they're willing to throw him under the bus if they make any comments about the show continuing without him. They're bad people.
This isn't about speaking for Josh. This is about saving their gravy train and their ministry. Just think of all the souls lost if their show is cancelled. May 31, 2015 at 4:33 PM
******* I know, it's so materialistic for these Christians.
But when it comes from the mother who you're supposed to go to for drying your tears, and who is more likely to stay home with you and traditionally spent more time with the kids (traditionally, don't freak out), it's harder to deal with.
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I would guess that there is a huge difference in male and female narcs.
The male narc that I knew was too good to work at mediocre jobs but thought highly educated professionals were his peers even though he lacked any education or experience in those fields. But emotionally, he fretted a lot about his image and his health. He was almost feminine in a lot of respects. He wanted to talk, if the conversation centered around him. He also couldn't bear the thought of his wife's attention not being on him, so they had no children.
The female narcs I've known put themselves ahead of their children and that just goes against nature. Thus, I think they can be more damaging, emotionally. Women are much more driven by emotion. They yield much power over children who are unable to understand how they are being played. All children want is love and the female narc knows how to manipulate that. They can give it and take it away in a heartbeat. The poor kids grow up thinking that behaviour is normal. No one can hurt you like a narc mother can.
(Leslie) I purchased a dress for my niece's formal wedding on Macy's website. And I saw a pop-up ad about two weeks later for the exact same dress that was now 1/2 off. So I emailed them and asked if they would honor the sale price. They immediately emailed back and said would gladly refund $90 to my credit card. And it was free shipping both ways. Also went to her registry and they had great half-off sale prices there as well. I bought a heavy etched crystal cheese platter for $40 bucks. Go Macy's!
Also I needed a pair of super cheap silver shoes to go with the dress. I certainly did not want to spend a lot of money because I will probably only wear the silver shoes one more time after the wedding. Target had super comfortable silver shoes on sale for $5 bucks. Oh yes, and I swear they looked and felt every bit as much as a mid - price shoe. Best of all, it was the first place I stopped to look for cheap shoes.
A hint to break in new shoes especially if they are a tiny tight. I put on a pair of socks and then walked around outside for about 5 minutes for two to three days. It stretched them out just a little and I did not have any blisters or new shoe break-in woes. This is very good also if onen foot is bigger than the other. Just do the above for the one foot.
Except for one who said it was a cheapo for fifty bucks. Defending Kate here...if she was frugal for this purchase, she's criticized for being cheap. If she had paid in the hundreds of dollars, she's accused of paying way too much and spending the kids' money.
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I'm not sure if there were other comments but I made a comment that JEFF was cheap IF he got it for her. I was making a joke. I wasn't criticizing Kate for being cheap. That dress could have been listed for 350 for all I know and I wouldn't be the wiser. There's nothing cheap looking about it, and it's great that it's listed for a price most women can afford. I would laugh only if JEFF got it for her, because the party line from his camp is that he is Daddy Warbucks here.
JMO, but I don't think 27 yo Josh should be taking the punishment of his 14-15yo self. JimBoob dictated the entire thing.....what was Josh going to say, "Oh no, father, I should be tried and jailed"? Again, it was his parents who so masively failed him and his sisters at that point in their lives and if they insist on this interview being televised, it is they who should be answering for it. (that they want to be interviewed on tv about it is another entire conversation)
The male narc that I knew was too good to work at mediocre jobs but thought highly educated professionals were his peers even though he lacked any education or experience in those fields. But emotionally, he fretted a lot about his image and his health. He was almost feminine in a lot of respects. He wanted to talk, if the conversation centered around him. He also couldn't bear the thought of his wife's attention not being on him, so they had no children.
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Yes, I see that. The only male narcissist I think I've ever known was a lawyer and works ALL THE TIME. He has two children, and I bet you they are no more damaged than any other child whose dad works all the time. Dad just isn't home, and the victims of his narcissism are mostly his coworkers, not his kids, I'm willing to bet.
A female narc may be more apt to bring her children into her sick games as players, and has been that I've seen. Whereas the men are just sort of benching the kids.
getoftweeter said... 63 Kate paid: $110. for that dress if she bought it at Macys
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How is it known she purchased it at Macy's if it's on sale at Nordstrom? Fact is that several of the department stores here sell Kors dresses and Kate shops at these malls.
JMO, but I don't think 27 yo Josh should be taking the punishment of his 14-15yo self.
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An interview isn't a punishment. That's their choice to do it. His parents shouldn't be speaking for him or trying to explain things for him. Either he should speak for himself, or he should decline to comment. But throwing Mama and Daddy out there to do it is immature. Lots of people have to answer for things that happened a long time ago, even when they were children, and he is no exception. Especially when it's something so serious that it is very likely he might still be dangerous around children. It's not like he stole the family car for a joy ride when he was 16. This is different.
His parents can speak for themselves and how they failed their family. That they can answer for. Anything else is for Josh to say.
(Leslie) I think both the parents and Josh should be interviewed. And I think they should be interviewed separately too. As many have already stated he is a married father of three and over the age of 25. He needs to speak for himself and not have his parents do it.
I agree, what could they possibly say at this point to make a difference. Just when the scandal is beginning to die down in the press they are going to bring it back in a huge way.The scandal will never be forgotten but why resurrected it in the media. I wonder if TLC is on board with this. This is not going to end in their favor by any means.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 62 The dress reminds me a little bit of the Sound of Music play clothes Maria made for the kids. I think that's why I lie it so much.
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Yes! Weren't those outfits green and white? They were wonderful.
Kk said... 81 JMO, but I don't think 27 yo Josh should be taking the punishment of his 14-15yo self **** For me, legal charges and jail time are off the table. There's no point seeking it or wanting it. Still, Josh is culpable because he perpetrated crimes that are sexually based, and he needs to be evaluated properly. It's not as thought we're talking about a few incidence of shoplifting, graffiti, dine and dash or drinking underage. Josh molested over and over again and he needs to be evaluated to have some degree of assurance that he no longer wants to fondle children. He has 3, soon to be 4 children. This needs to happen. Josh has to be a man and face the music.
His parents can speak for themselves and how they failed their family. That they can answer for. Anything else is for Josh to say. May 31, 2015 at 4:58 PM ****** What needs to be investigated is whether or not Josh fully understands what he did to his victims, does he still have these urges, are his own children in any danger, and are there other victims out there.
Is physical abuse typical with narc parents? To clarify the narc parent physically abusing their children, not the parent having been abused themselves.
For those who like documentaries, I just watched a great one this afternoon. "Life Itself " about the late, great Roger Ebert. Much of it is in his own words, taken from his autobiography of the same name. It's sad and joyful and uplifting and informative. Ebert is shown, warts and all, from his massive ego and sometimes arrogant behavior to the loving and supportive relationship with his wife Chaz and, of course, the partnership with Gene Siskel. Parts of it are difficult to watch, particularly of his horrendous deformities after his cancer surgery. The surgery robbed him of his ability to speak, but it didn't take his voice. He moved into blogging on the internet and participating in social media, while continuing to write his movie reviews. Two very big thumbs up from me. I borrowed the DVD from my library, but it's available on Netflix streaming and available to rent on Amazon streaming.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 4m4 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 @TLC So many of your fans were thrilled to meet you & have pictures taken with you. They said you were so sweet & beautiful.😘👏
They just don't get it do they? How dense can a person be? Is it because they don't understand how pr works at a public venue, the celebrity's purpose for being there, that he/she is representing a network? Of course they will present themselves in the best possible way. They are not going to be snotty, abusive, refusing pictures and autographs.
Sometimes I wonder if the sheeple really are this stupid or just pretend to be in order to get attention.
I'm not sure if there were other comments but I made a comment that JEFF was cheap IF he got it for her. I was making a joke. I wasn't criticizing Kate for being cheap.
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xxyyzz Aw @kateplusmy8...running out of money?Can't afford Ann Taylor these days? No gifts cards in the mail? That dress u wore was SO CHEAP!! $50?
Eight is More Than Enough said... 89 Is physical abuse typical with narc parents? To clarify the narc parent physically abusing their children, not the parent having been abused themselves.
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I don't know if it's typical, but the psychological and emotional abuse is way worse.
My mother was physically abusive and loved to brag about it. That's why when sKate talks about discipline and uses terms like "Yes, indeedy." it makes my skin crawl.
Josh molested over and over again and he needs to be evaluated to have some degree of assurance that he no longer wants to fondle children. He has 3, soon to be 4 children. This needs to happen.
------------------------ Absolutely. In this entire mess, that is one of the things that concerns me the most. Anna lives in her own little world. She's not going to be vigilant in looking out for her children. Somebody certainly needs to make sure that they are safe.
One more explanation of why I believe it is right to hold BOOB more acountable than Josh: Ya;ll aren't looking at his guilt from the quiverfull/ husband is the authority head perspective.
What Josh did was while he was under BOOB's authority, hence BOOB, according to their theological theory, BOOB is accountable, not Josh. BOOB failed his son, AND his daughters. The judgement falls on BOOB.
(I am in no way excusing what Josh did, nor his responsibility in his behavior-but again, their religious beliefs hold BOOB accountable because of his authority in the household).
"Josh has to be a man and face the music." ******************** I totally agree with this. I just don't think a televised interview is the appropriate venue. The fact remains that his parents sold their family to television; the parents orchestrated Josh's 'confessions' and (fake)'rehab' when he was 14-15 yrs old; and the parents are the ones that should be discussing this. What Josh does about it now should not be during televised event.
The only value to come of this predicted debacle would be if the parents make it clear to whoever tunes in that they did everything wrong, and that should other parents find themselves in the position they were in 12 years ago, there are better (and more legal) ways to come through. Their 'fans' willl not accept their culpability unless the parents acknowledge it themselves. If there are any other justifications for their behavior 12 years ago, it will be proof positive of their continued failing as decent parents. This means, too, that they don't hang Josh out to publicly absolve them of their failings as parents.
Narcissist was never violent with the kids, wouldn't dream of laying a finger on them. As far as I know that was always the case. The other parent did give them the occasional hard spanking, though it was for very bad behavior (not that that makes it right, but it's worse to beat kids for no reason).
They were pretty sturdy, strong-minded, kids and I think N was afraid they'd slap right back if N dared strike them. Much like Kate, N was AFRAID of their own kids. They had such sweet angelic faces, it's hard to imagine how anyone could hurt them. They were precious.
Absolutely. In this entire mess, that is one of the things that concerns me the most.
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It is extremely, extremely concerning if he hasn't been fully evaluated by a professional to determine if he is safe around his young children.
In fact, many cases that come in in Los Angeles are the result of a former child molester having their first child. Often there are other things going on that are more minor, but when social workers get involved their backgrounds are looked into and BAM there it is. Kids detained. He is extremely lucky to even still have custody of these kids. They usually detain first and ask questions later when it comes to child molesters.
I don't understand...the dress appears to be a good buy. Why any criticism? She actually wore something that was not slutty. TLC rep probably told her to wear something attractive and not revealing. She still does the slut look, like on her date with Jeff Millionaire. I bet because TLC wants her to look more like a mom and not a hooker, they may be providing suggestions on her style. When TLC paid for her Ann Taylor clothes, she looked great, but once she got the big hooters, she wanted to show those puppies off and that's when she looked like a cheap hooker. Back then, she was full of herself and probably thought she knew what looked good... not!
angie said... 97 One more explanation of why I believe it is right to hold BOOB more acountable than Josh: Ya;ll aren't looking at his guilt from the quiverfull/ husband is the authority head perspective.
What Josh did was while he was under BOOB's authority, hence BOOB, according to their theological theory, BOOB is accountable, not Josh. BOOB failed his son, AND his daughters. The judgement falls on BOOB.
(I am in no way excusing what Josh did, nor his responsibility in his behavior-but again, their religious beliefs hold BOOB accountable because of his authority in the household). ************************************************* I am not applying their religious beliefs since I don't subscribe to them. According to my moral code, Josh is responsible for his actions. He, and he alone, molested those children. The parents are responsible for the way in which they handled the situation and for leaving their young daughters at high risk for further abuse by not getting him evaluated and counseled by a licensed professional, but unless you have proof that JimBob forced Josh to fondle his sisters, he is not responsible for the acts themselves. I don't care what the Quiverfull doctrine states.
Not to forget that there will be a stream of nieces close by over the next several years. Will Mrs. Josh Dugger babysit them at her house? I tend to think she will, since they're moving back to Arkansas and will be right back in the thick of things. If I had a daughter I'd be setting up nanny cams in every room of the house even if the molester had gone to therapy.
Susie Cincinnati said... 104 but unless you have proof that JimBob forced Josh to fondle his sisters, he is not responsible for the acts themselves
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Did anyone say that he was? ****************************************** Um, yes, the person to whom I responded stated explicitly that JimBob is accountable, not Josh.
I am not applying their religious beliefs since I don't subscribe to them. According to my moral code, Josh is responsible for his actions. He, and he alone, molested those children. The parents are responsible for the way in which they handled the situation and for leaving their young daughters at high risk for further abuse by not getting him evaluated and counseled by a licensed professional, but unless you have proof that JimBob forced Josh to fondle his sisters, he is not responsible for the acts themselves. I don't care what the Quiverfull doctrine states.
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Well, Josh is responsible, but both his parents are also responsible if they kept the children so isolated and suppressed that they did not feel free and comfortable to explore their sexuality in a comfortable and safe manner that did not hurt others. They are also responsible for having so many children that they could not all possibly be properly supervised. They are also responsible if, due to the high number of children, they did not notice and observe warning signs from Josh. It would be unusual for this to be the first behavior without any warning signs prior. Chances are, there were warning signs that they missed or willfully ignored. They need to take responsibility for that.
That said, I don't know for sure whether they failed in that respect, I don't have proof, but I do think most likely they did fail in this manner. Otherwise I completely agree with you.
Did anyone say that he was? ****************************************** Um, yes, the person to whom I responded stated explicitly that JimBob is accountable, not Josh.
------------------------- Unless I am misunderstanding Angie's post, she was commenting from the perspective of the Quiverfull cult.
I was the one that said JimBob is responsible, because this family follows the quiverful/gotthard practices. Its not fair to hold an adult Josh accountable for how his dad decided to deal with the situation. Its impossible for anyone to challenge the authority figure in the family. Impossible. I am NOT excusing what Josh did-- but what was he supposed to do, defy his father's decisions? I do think child services needs to do a complete study of his household to determine if his children are safe, at the very least. Yall need to read about quiverful/gotthard families to understand how every decision is the father's. It's ridiculous.
@Kateplusmy8: @Mydmaxx YES! It’s a @MichaelKors dress and I LOVE tons of his stuff (including my fave jeans) and NO I’m not paid or comped to say this 😉 ======== Maybe not yet but she wants to be - why else include @michaelkors in the tweet. She's so transparent with her grifting.
@Kateplusmy8: @Mydmaxx YES! It’s a @MichaelKors dress and I LOVE tons of his stuff (including my fave jeans) and NO I’m not paid or comped to say this ��
@Kateplusmy8: @Mydmaxx YES! It’s a @MichaelKors dress and I LOVE tons of his stuff (including my fave jeans) and NO I’m not paid or comped to say this �� ======== Maybe not yet but she wants to be - why else include @michaelkors in the tweet. She's so transparent with her grifting.
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But if you're piecin' and patchin' and a struggling single mom with unpaid bill in your purse how can you afford Michael Kors? Could someone explain that? Was her purse that contained the bills a Kors? LoL!
So TFW bought herself a ring because she "had to have something about that # to make me smile:)" When I think of how ridiculously blessed this woman has been, that statement makes me sick. She's a healthy 40-year-old who has 8 healthy kids and lives in a beautiful home and has been on more trips -- on someone else's dime -- in the past decade than most of us will ever be in a lifetime. She has skated by with minimal talent and even less grace, and continues to work fairly steadily. And she needed a cheering up ring? Oh, poor, poor Schmoopy. Didja need that cheering up before Cancun or after?
And can she possibly fathom how poorly that kind of comment might land for some of her fans who are years or even decades past 40? She's so tone deaf it hurts.
A slight change of subject here -- today the San Diego Rock 'n Roll Marathon was run. No sign of Kate here (she seems to have done 1 and gone). The oldest woman to complete the run ran it in a little over 7 hours. She is 92. Just a TBS(unday) memory.
I am NOT excusing what Josh did-- but what was he supposed to do, defy his father's decisions?
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I tend to agree a 14 year old child can't be expected to defy his father when his father is telling him how a situation should be handled.
That said, once Josh became an adult and wanted to have children of his own, it was his obligation to seek out professional therapists and undergo a full assessment of his psychological health. At a certain point the responsibility shifted to him.
I agree that a 14 yo can't defy his father in how a situation is handled. Especially in that family.
That being said, as an adult Josh is totally over the line when he labels whole groups of people as child molestors when 1) there is NO factual basis to do so and 2) he himself is a child molestor.
How arrogant to call others child molestors because you don't like their lifestyle when you yourself really are one. And your little sisters no less.
Using his theory, would it now be fair to say that all conservative Christians are child molestors? Many don't agree with their lifestyle....
Using his theory, would it now be fair to say that all conservative Christians are child molestors? Many don't agree with their lifestyle....
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I think the only good that can come of this is that some of these fundamentalist fringe types do some real soul searching. If even just one comes to realize that perhaps it's not for them to condemn those who are different from them, then something good has come of it.
They will NEVER soul search about these things. They truly believe that they are on the inside track as far as pleasing God. They believe they have prayed and got their answer straight from God's lips via the male authority's lips. Their mission is to make new members and to never back down, not one inch. They believe God's kingdom relies on their vigilance toward all things Gothard has taught. If they get lax, they will defraud God, I guess.
They have no thought of soul searching to consider who they hurt on their march to the sea.
On Monday, I reported that one lucky TLC viewer won a national contest to bring a huge block party to Philadelphia featuring the celebrities (cough, cough) of the popular cable network. Everyone from the Duggars to the stars of Say Yes To The Dress to the Cake Boss himself are slated to attend the festivities at Penn’s Landing.
It didn’t take long before people’s reaction to the announcement started to flood social media. Of note, I couldn’t help but laugh—and agree—with many of the comments that started to pour on to Philadelphia magazine’s Facebook page when we posted the article. Here, in no particular order, are some of my favorite replies:
“Can we create a GoFund me account to pay for them to go to another city?
"They Duggars have enough ppl to have their own block party. Why would anyone else want to go?"
"I am more afraid of the attendees. Who would actually go to something like this?"
"This is the most horrid thing I've heard in Philly's history. Is this real?"
"So basically, the caricatures of Hell will all be in one little spot."
My colleague Monica Weymouth coined a piece the following day, aptly titled "Philly's 5 Worst Reality TV Moments," where she strongly suggested that the upcoming May TLC "thing" may very well take the top rating as one of the Worst. Things. Ever.
But why do we hate these TLC clowns? Why do we all have a visceral reaction when the name "Duggar" is mentioned, or why does my skin crawl when I tune in to an episode of Little People, Big World? I don't think we have to look too far for the answer: These TV personalities are terrible, horrible people. End of story.
I never liked reality TV to begin with. (You couldn't get me to watch an episode of Survivor or Real World if my life depended on it.) When the likes of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo and ten thousand variations of "Here's a Family of Little People: Watch Them Do Daily Tasks" took to the airwaves, I cut my cable—and quick. I couldn't stomach how formulaic, fake, and pathetic these programs were, and I couldn't watch grown adults using their children as a means to make a quick buck.
Sure, we can easily see this eerie voyeurism with Honey Boo Boo or Toddlers and Tiaras, but the moment that really solidified the impact these shows have on their young victims was the now notorious Today interview with Kate Gosselin's older daughters. Sure, they could have been giving their mom an embarrassing smack down on live TV, but there's more than that here: Here are two young women who are pretty clearly depressed and sick and tired of being in the spotlight for the sake of their mother's vanity.
When there's not much humanity behind a person, it's hard to really "like" them: Add in the fact that reality TV is anything but reality, and we start to despise what we see when we turn on TLC or the mountain of other networks that have turned into even cheaper versions of The Learning Channel (the irony of even associating "learning" with watching a bunch of women fight over a bridal gown is beyond me). But then again, don't humans love a train wreck? Traffic gets backed up on Route 76, because we all stop and look at car crashes on the other side of the highway, right? TLC is pretty much a car crash. We love to hate it.
As one of my friends said to me after she found out about the Philly block party, "I would give my first born child if I could actually meet some of them!" My response: "Let's just steal one of the Duggar's nineteen kids: They wouldn't even realize they were missing."
Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/05/01/why-everyone-hates-kate-gosselin-the-duggars-and-all-those-other-tlc-stars/#CrHoid5FsXpE5JW8.99
For the past year, Philadelphia, a city once synonymous with sports fans chucking snowballs at Santa and deliberately barfing on the children of our Men in Blue, has become an inexplicable comeback story. It takes a lot to bring a city down. And if that city has stared the devil in the face and said, "bring it on, Butt Plug!", it's damn near impossible.
But there is one way. And just when we were doing so well, we found it. How? Well, you take one of the region's greatest Cinderella Stories, Penn's Landing, and invite four of five of the world's worst people to take a proverbial shit all over it.
An un-ironic Dee Reynolds with veneers?
Yep, this May 30th, Kate Gosselin, Buddy Valastro, and the Duggar family will be the source material for a block party at the Great Plaza. Apparently the reanimated corpse of Strom Thurman was unavailable.
If you don't know who they are, well, count yourself amongst the few who can still claim to be human. Unfortunately, I know better (or worse). They're reality "celebrities" from TLC's infamous sideshows: people with litters of kids and an irate New Yorker so annoying he couldn't hold a job in the same building as Rachel Ray.
TLC, the ironic acronym for "The Learning Channel," has been peddling what amounts to Freak Porn since it abandoned educational content in the late 1990s. I'm not saying that prolific mothers, dwarves, or the obese should be objectified, but TLC - and apparently the Delaware River Waterfront Corporation - sure as shit seems to be.
If you're one of the soulless fans of Kate Plus Eight or Cake Boss, head down to Penn's Landing for a photograph with some unrealebrities who I'm quite certain can't cast a shadow. If not, get out of town. Philadelphia was doing so well, but in a month I'm pretty sure it will be flushed down Hell's toilet bowl.
On May 30th, The Great Plaza at Penn’s Landing will become a makeshift anthropological site representing the wrong side of history when it hosts the TLC Summer Block Party. This exaltation of basic teevee folk will include appearances from Cake Boss star Buddy Valastro, renowned breeders Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, fashion maven/Say Yes to the Dress personality Randy Fenoli, and, of course, Kate Gosselin. Sigh. We aren’t above turning off our minds and plunking down in front of some bad reality television, but not from the likes of these folks. Most importantly, we haven’t forgotten about this bit of fuckery. So yeah TLC, we’re going to take a hard pass on this event and the massively reproducing hate vibes that will be hanging in the air like the stench of burning funnel cake.
Lynn W. said... 113 A slight change of subject here -- today the San Diego Rock 'n Roll Marathon was run. No sign of Kate here (she seems to have done 1 and gone). The oldest woman to complete the run ran it in a little over 7 hours. She is 92. Just a TBS(unday) memory. ******* I saw that! The photo of her crossing the finish line looked like she had a Flying Monkey and a scooter to help her. Of course, she didn't ;-) So inspiring.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 112 So TFW bought herself a ring because she "had to have something about that # to make me smile:)" When I think of how ridiculously blessed this woman has been, that statement makes me sick. ******* Kate always has to find an angle to justify her self-pampering. Look, she makes a lot of money being a D-lister and pimping her kids on TV. She can afford a nice ring, big deal! Why not say that she treated herself on her birthday? She spends lavishly on herself all the damn time, so what's the big deal about a ring. It probably costs less than her monthly spas, manis, pedis, tanning and hair. Not to mention her cosmetic upkeep, which is VERY obvious.
And can she possibly fathom how poorly that kind of comment might land for some of her fans who are years or even decades past 40? She's so tone deaf it hurts.
****** I have no pity left for any of Kate's fans. If they choose to be delusional and put Kate on some pedestal, then they deserve to be duped and feel like they are less than her. You can't fix stupid.
I'm guessing at this point, Kate doesn't have friends or family celebrate her birthday with her, so she needs to fill the void somehow. What does it say about what an empty, bottomless vessel she is if she needs more and more and more? I mean, Cancun? Hello!
But if you're piecin' and patchin' and a struggling single mom with unpaid bill in your purse how can you afford Michael Kors? Could someone explain that? Was her purse that contained the bills a Kors? LoL!
******* Kate was never piecin' and patchin'. She was just using hysteria so that people would feel sorry for her because TLC canceled her show. Michael Kors can be found discounted at department stores, outlets and T.J. Maxx and the like. I don't know if Kate paid full price, but it's not what I would consider a ridiculously expensive brand. At least not his ready to wear stuff.
I've scored some great Kors clothing and purses at T.J. Maxx.
Angie said... 108 I was the one that said JimBob is responsible, because this family follows the quiverful/gotthard practices. Its not fair to hold an adult Josh accountable for how his dad decided to deal with the situation. Its impossible for anyone to challenge the authority figure in the family. Impossible. ******* Jim Bob is a dictator who perverts the bible to wield total control over people. It's hard for even adult children to break out of their role as child and be their own adult person, and break away from the teachings and control of their parents. It can be done if the child finds the strength to do it, and isn't held hostage to the fear of being shunned, which I'm sure is what parents like Jim Bob and Michelle lord over their children.
Josh has an opportunity here. I doubt he'll take it, but I hope he does. He can choose to become enlightened and use his story and notoriety/"fame" to spread tolerance and understanding, not to mention help victims of molestation.
If I had a daughter I'd be setting up nanny cams in every room of the house even if the molester had gone to therapy. ******* Yes! Great point. Given that Josh and Anna are moving back, Josh will be around minors again and I wonder if his sisters' maternal instinct will kick in. I hope they do. I hope his sisters somehow, some way, get the courage to come forth and tell what happened to them, and vow that it will never, ever happen to their own little girls.
It galls me that the pivotal issue for the Duggars right now is the show. That's BULLSHIT. The pivotal issue is breaking the silence of shame, growing as human beings and standing up for themselves and their own children and becoming advocates for protecting other children in the homes of these repressive, controlling tyrants.
That's the silver lining here, not some reality tv shows that line of pockets of people who don't give a damn about victims and justice.
TLC stinks said... 101 I don't understand...the dress appears to be a good buy. Why any criticism? She actually wore something that was not slutty. **** The dress was a good choice. Very summery and flattering. The girls could have used outfits that had a bit more punch, imo. I'm not criticizing their outfits, and I think they both look great. It's just that for an event where you are posing for tons of photos, I would have chosen outfits with personality and flattering colors, not drab neutrals.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/29/duggar-scandal-parody-funny-or-die_n_7470408.html?ir=Canada+Living ************************************** Not sure if this has been posted. Warning: parody, may offend some
The number one thing every adult in that family MUST do is to never EVER leave Josh (or any of the other adolescent brothers, in my opinion) alone with any of the girls, his daughter or ANY female child (maybe male too?) Period. To hell with trust, counseling, forgiveness praying. To hell with trying to fix or give him therapy, HE has to obviously be forced into it, not gonna happen. Be vigilant and protect those girls. He is NOT to given any opportunity whatsoever to abuse again. Talk about a pedos dream! Children at your disposal with a free pass to molest. My God, think about it.
Looks like Jon had kids with him in AC this weekend. Here is interview he did. VIDEO: #JonGosselin #DJ @poolafterdark #AtlanticCity: https://youtu.be/3hMMKMh7VQE
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 73 I think it's fine to refer to a teenager as a young woman but in this case it's not okay because it minimizes and misleads about the true nature of who he molested. And good point about how so many keep leaving out it was his SISTERS.
Because a young woman can mean someone in their teens, 20's and even 30's, it's damn misleading. These were helpless little ones, many of whom didn't even know what sex was. Some were sleeping for God sake!
This is why I just can't not like Jon ;-) He's so real and laid back. He's a straight shooter and doesn't try to bend everything so that he comes out smelling like a lilly. The interviewer was throwing out all sorts of questions! Kids and custody- nope, private. Way to go, Jon. How are you misunderstood- that I cheated on Kate. Didn't happen. Love how Jon doesn't put onus on Kate, which he certainly could. Politics- wth, lady-it's a dj'ing gig as a casino! How did Kate do on CA- wow, Jon was a stand up guy and said he was impressed she went so far. I'd love to see Jon on CA. Jon said the kids are with him, somewhere near AC, having fun. He kept details very vague- excellent.
Kate's face NEVER lights up like Jon's when he talks about his kids. I'm guessing the boy who wasn't visiting is doing so now, and that's a good thing (right, Kate??).
Thanks for linking the interview.
I hope DJ Jon Gosselin works out for Jon. If he can work hard and build his DJ brand, he could one day own his own company and that could set him up for life. He's got the personality and hopefully the talent.
I like the dress too...but remember Kate said they 'don't so designers?' And she also treated herself to a ring. I agree you can find great deals at TJ Maxx etc. Burlington Coat Factory always has a lot of Michael Kors. I have a scarf/winter cap set, and a sweater by MK from there.
I wonder if TFW tried to get some of the tups to come to the block party. They're the reason she has a "brand" to peddle to begin with. I could see her possibly wanting H & L there, to show the world that all is well before the custody hearing (H alone would be too obvious). Then she could have all her favorites flocking around her all Norman Rockwell-like, while A and the icky boys spent the weekend with their deadbeat dad. Who, unlike their mother, has a job.
I'm guessing the tups weren't at the block party because it was Jon's custodial weekend and he had them with him in Atlantic city? If this is the case, excellent.
I'm not criticizing their outfits, and I think they both look great. It's just that for an event where you are posing for tons of photos, I would have chosen outfits with personality and flattering colors, not drab neutrals.
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What? And take the focus from the real star? I think the choice of neutrals was deliberate. One way or another.
I hope so too- and maybe more of them will join Hannah's crusade. Unless TFW got a nanny again somehow...they would need care during Jon's late gigs so maybe she would have a say about that??
It's really great Jon took the tups on an equally if not more fun trip, and the tups all went. The kids need to know that Kate does not has a patent on fun and trips, and they need to know they can have a weekend getaway without having to have the burden of cameras there. It seems to me Kate has tried to brainwash them into believing that there is little fun to be had without TLC in their lives, especially based on Mady's comment last year about staring at the walls.
I was thinking if Kate tried to persuade them to come to the block party but if only some of them wanted to, she couldn't do it unless she took them all. Taking just some of the tups would cause all kinds of questions about why the others didn't go, so she was in a jam with that.
Formerly Duped (#135), good call - yes, TFW did claim they didn't buy designer stuff.
As many have said, it's not the price of the dress that's the point. Even if it cost $100 - who cares? She wore it for "work," so I guess it's a business write-off, and she loves it and will likely wear it again and again. The thing that continues to frustrate so many of us is the perpetual hypocrisy and deception. Don't say you don't wear designer clothing -- in an effort to underplay your wealth -- and then get photographed in designer clothing. Don't tweet that you're upset you lost your trees in a storm because they gave you privacy, and then tweet pictures to the world of your minor children in bedclothes. The list goes on and on.
TFW says what she needs to, when she needs to. That could fly in the 20th century, but it's 2015, and that nonsense won't fly anymore. I'm curious how much her electronic behavior might play into the custody hearing. Plenty of information to be mined from her tweets.
Kate seems to feel the need to deny the engagement rumor, not only once but twice.
Yesterday she tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 16h16 hours ago @dowd24 um no. I liked the ring so I put it on myself ... To myself for my bday. Had to have something about that # to make me smile:)
And just now she tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 7m7 minutes ago Fyi: I’m not engaged-not even dating any1.Loved the ring so I put it on myself 4 my bday-Had 2have something abt that # to make me smile #40
What # is she talking about?
The ring on her left hand is a ring that she has been wearing for ages. I think we first noticed it when they were in Australia or NZ. She even wore it as a wedding ring on CA.
I noticed the ring on her right hand during her couch interviews in the MD special. Is that the mother of pearl ring with 8 stones that she mentioned wanting to get for herself years ago.
The tabs are over the top with this, but it's strange that Kate feels she has to deny it again.
She's talking with a forked tongue again and making no sense.
As many have said, it's not the price of the dress that's the point. Even if it cost $100 - who cares? She wore it for "work," so I guess it's a business write-off
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You can't write off clothes for business unless it's a uniform. Which explains why she goes pretty cheaper for clothes, but has no problem springing for a limo or first class flight, which *can* be easily written off.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 141 It's really great Jon took the tups on an equally if not more fun trip, and the tups all went. The kids need to know that Kate does not has a patent on fun and trips, and they need to know they can have a weekend getaway without having to have the burden of cameras there. ***** It sounds like kids got to stay at a nearby beach town and have fun. I hope they walked a boardwalk, at pizza and fries and played games, maybe went on some rides. Yeah, TLC trips are great, but so is the Jersey shore, and they live so close!!
Mel said.... That being said, as an adult Josh is totally over the line when he labels whole groups of people as child molestors when 1) there is NO factual basis to do so and 2) he himself is a child molestor.
How arrogant to call others child molestors because you don't like their lifestyle when you yourself really are one. And your little sisters no less.
Using his theory, would it now be fair to say that all conservative Christians are child molestors? Many don't agree with their lifestyle.... ----------------- While his anti gay stance is hypocritical, I am guessing that his statements about molestation are pure projection of his own inclinations to molest, and therefore that perspective is very real to him (and his nut job parents).. Now that I think about it, that is a pretty big red flag that he has not been "cured", and probably still has urges.
I'm sure fans asked where the Tups were. I'd be really curious what Kate said. Was she actually a grown up and said they are enjoying a nice weekend with their Father, thanks for asking?
Or did she just say something vague like they're busy and are at home. I bet the latter.
I've never seen Jon sound so enthusiastic and hopeful about something. He seems to have finally found his niche. I didn't realize he's been doing this since the fall, has it been that long? And I bet Kate is worried about this, because it means he is going on equally fun trips AND can take the kids with him. This bothers her, as evidence by her frantic private tweet she sent out.
If the kids can get to the point where they can realize they can still get a free trip to the beach or some other fun place WITHOUT TLC, Kate has lost her currency. Brilliant move by Jon.
fidosmommy said... 117 They will NEVER soul search about these things.
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I don't think Ma and Pa Duggar will, but some of the other kids can think for themselves and may give this more than a passing thought. Even some of the Duggars own relatives have left the flock, and plenty of people involved in this lifestyle have left, often due to an incident just like this one.
I think it's entirely possible at least some people will rethink things. I'm speaking about not just the entire Duggar clan but anyone trapped in a religion that stifling.
I hope so too- and maybe more of them will join Hannah's crusade. Unless TFW got a nanny again somehow...they would need care during Jon's late gigs so maybe she would have a say about that?? ********************************************************************************* I would think she wouldn't have any say about who he uses for a babysitter unless that person is not well trained or the children complain. Jon may have used a higher caliber of babysitter (than TFMJG does) during this trip--wouldn't there be reputable nanny agencies in the Atlantic City area? He would only need 1, maybe 2, nannies for the weekend, mainly during the hours he is working. I'm sure he spent the daytime hours with them and it sounds like they might have come in the night before as he mentioned trying the different restaurants and seeing the sights.
The Supreme Court has ruled in favor of the man saying nasty things about his ex wife on Facebook. I mentioned this case a couple months back when they were hearing arguments on it, and said it was going to be one to watch.
This is a big victory for free speech on the internet. Sorry sheeple and BV, but you can say things, even really nasty things, on the internet if you want to. While it may not be morally right, there's nothing illegal about it.
If TLC wants to spin off the married or older Duggars, here's a show I would watch.
They could call it "Breaking Duggar", where the adult go out into the real world and we follow their therapy and have professionals unravel all the abusive, misogynistic things they've been taught. They don't have to go to NYC and get into booze and drugs and promiscuity, they just have to be shown that the world isn't the horrible, evil place their parents told them it was.
These cults survive because their children are insulated and isolated. There's a reason they don't watch t.v. I'll bet they are ruing the day they let some of the kids get iphones.
Being a DJ is a big thing right now. Calvin Harris , Taylor Swifts new boyfriend , is a DJ and he made millions last year. Can you believe he use to stock shelves at a grocery store? If Jon is good and smart he can make a very good living.
Didn't like Kate's dress. Wasn't it orange?? To matchy matchy with her skin!
Kate is such a liar and fact twister. Her camp planted that Radar story. There is no doubt in my mind. And to say she's not dating anyone is a blatant lie too. Maybe the ring on her right hand is new; I could not tell but both rings appeared too big (she's lost so much weight). Anything to get her name out there. Like I said, the heart pendant looks more like something a man would buy for a woman.
Ex Nurse (#46), so help me, I was about to post the same thing the other day, and suddenly remembered our sweet Redbird here on the veranda, and didn't want to offend her! (*waves sheepishly to Redbird*)
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 147 I'm sure fans asked where the Tups were. I'd be really curious what Kate said. Was she actually a grown up and said they are enjoying a nice weekend with their Father, thanks for asking? ****** Oh, please, no...don't! Don't make me laugh so hard. I have a horrendous cold and my sinuses will explode if I guffaw that hard!
I'm not saying that the photos of Jeff and Kate looked cozy, but come one, that was a date! It's so bizarre. Ex Mrs. Millionaire Droopy Drawers will actually comment on her ex dating Kate, saying he deserves happiness, but Kate denies she's dating him? Gurrrrlfriends, y'all gotta talk!
TLC Stinks (#154), oh, I most certainly agree that the Radar story came from TFW's camp. Those not-a-designer designer dresses don't pay for themselves!
Again and again she ignores things she's asked about, but, poof, this rumor she adressess in detail? Twice? Oh, and she phrased it hoping someone would respond by saying how great she looks for 40. Did anyone take the bait?
Haven't finished reading the whole thing, but this one answer stood out for me:
You live in Pennsylvania. Do you come to Philadelphia often?
"Every once in a while, I’m not here often. I usually stay within a 5-mile radius of my house, but occasionally I do different things down here. Just to clear up the rumor, everyone says I am from Philadelphia, but I’m not. I live in Hershey, PA. Philly is the next big city, so everyone just says that."
So now she's saying she lives in Hershey? WTF? I guess she thinks Hershey is more glamorous than Wernersville.
If Jon is good and smart he can make a very good living. ***** DJ'ing actually is a good way to capitalize on the status of being a former reality tv "star". I hope Jon keeps his nose clean, and uses all of his business savvy to work hard and succeed.
P.J. said... 151 If TLC wants to spin off the married or older Duggars, here's a show I would watch.
They could call it "Breaking Duggar", where the adult go out into the real world and we follow their therapy and have professionals unravel all the abusive, misogynistic things they've been taught. They don't have to go to NYC and get into booze and drugs and promiscuity, they just have to be shown that the world isn't the horrible, evil place their parents told them it was. ******* Hmm...might watch that, too. All kidding aside, this family is at a crossroads. The next generation has an opportunity here to break the cycle of abuse. They have a chance to change the lives of their own children so that no one will suppress them and their freedoms. I am sure that there are countless people and organizations that would be willing to help the Duggar kids heal, grow and even help others.
It's unfathomable to me that not one of these victims will speak out for themselves. What of the non-family female? Where the hell are her parents?!
Susan1956 said... 149 I hope so too- and maybe more of them will join Hannah's crusade. Unless TFW got a nanny again somehow...they would need care during Jon's late gigs so maybe she would have a say about that?? ********************************************************************************* I would think she wouldn't have any say about who he uses for a babysitter unless that person is not well trained or the children complain. Jon may have used a higher caliber of babysitter (than TFMJG does) during this trip--wouldn't there be reputable nanny agencies in the Atlantic City area? He would only need 1, maybe 2, nannies for the weekend, mainly during the hours he is working. ***** Jon also has family and friends to help.
If the kids can get to the point where they can realize they can still get a free trip to the beach or some other fun place WITHOUT TLC, Kate has lost her currency. Brilliant move by Jon.
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It has to be so liberating for those kids to know that they don't have to play to any cameras or do retakes of incidental fun moments they experience when they're with their dad.
I'm sure Kate is livid that Jon is finding his way without being bound to a lousy contract with those assholes at TLC or dependent upon the kids to make a living. Turns out he's got a talent and she's still got nuthin'.
According to Lauren, when and if Kate ever gets engaged she will let everyone know.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 · 15h15 hours ago FYI: If @Kateplusmy8 was engaged, she'd tell us. Haters trying to stir pot. They need to move on. Can't stand that Kate and kids r happy
http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/ ***** Jeebus, this woman hasn't said anything new in YEARS. It's just the same recycled pablum over and over again. Actually, I should apologize to pablum. Kate's incoherent, stream of consciousness-yammering simply isn't meaningful. There are a lot of words, but she talks so circuitously and is incapable of providing a cogent answer to anything.
Well, no, let me clarify that I did find out something new. You can now meet Kate Gosselin if you are within 5 miles of her home, not just in her kitchen or the grocery store. And, more filming for the summer. In lieu of actually kid stuff like camps and such. Sooooo, another summer of filming, or their pool.
I'll be following Jon's hearing re: Hannah closely. That could change things up a bit.
So what are your plans for the summer? Are you all going on any trips? I know that we’ll be filming, but other than that ... as many days as we can do nothing, the better!
Can I just say I recently saw a reality show film crew filiming? It was done in short short segments and the people were told what to say and they had to do several takes each time. I can't imagine spending my childhood summer doing that
Looks like Jon had kids with him in AC this weekend. Here is interview he did. VIDEO: #JonGosselin #DJ @poolafterdark #AtlanticCity: https://youtu.be/3hMMKMh7VQE
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Anyone else have trouble listening to that? The sound went wonky when the interview started. I could barely hear what they were saying.
Why is Kate still hammering on about the paps and taking non-consenting pics of the kids, vs. being filmed and doing photo shoots? First of all, I'd be publicly apologizing to my kids if I caused them to be chum for scumbag paps. I'd feel so much guilt about foisting that on their unconsenting souls. Second, it's the the paps fault. They are well within their legal rights to photograph them in public, as am I, too. There is one thing and one thing only that needs to happens such that the kids will continue to dislike (per Kate) being pap fodder, and being uncertain of whether someone wants to befriend them for them, or befriend them because they're on tv. That one thing is giving them back their privacy.
Kate can point her tips at paps and users all she wants, but she is the sole reason this has and is happening to her children.
(Leslie) I feel like I am in the minority but I don't Kate is dating Jeff. I think they are both fame whores and knew or even set-up the photos of themselves. They did this for the publicity of course. I can't wait to hear about their business project. If it is a foundation I call bullshit without even knowing what it is about. It will flop after a year. I think she is stupid to start any business or foundation with this creep. His track record does not sound solid by any means. I want to know why he changed his name. Kate loves the speculation about her dating.
I bet the kids have 100 times more fun with their dad than with TFW. She is a human wet blanket, snuffing each and every ember of joy out of any occasion. The heifer even managed to be miserable at Disney World.
I had no idea Cancun was within 5 miles of Hershey, PA. I may have to plan a visit there myself.
So, other than securing filming, Kate's plans are literally nothing. I think making such a big deal about sleeping in all the time is a horrible example for kids. As an adult, I get up about the same time each day. Sleeping in an extra 3 hours over and over again would get so old and boring! She's raising slugs!
What I would love to read is what each kid says they want to do this summer! Kate is disgusting. Filming, even if it involves travel, is work. She's once again, carved out no time for them to be individuals and pursue their own joy.
That was probably one of her worst interviews. She sounds like an awful fame whore momager.
I'm hoping any new footage/filming this summer ends up on the cutting room floor along side twist of Kate! Now that would be a perfect end to the summer!
I'm sure Kate planted that story about being engaged. Like I said, she's been wearing that ring since NZ. And now all of a sudden it's noticed because it's on her left hand?
What better way to disprove that stories about her are fake, so that if a story does come out about the result of the custody hearing, she can say "it's lies, all lies".
I could not even get through that interview. The reporter must have recorded it. Filming this summer...poor kids. Gawd, did you see how she posed for those photos? How her boobs are so big there were big shadows under them? LOL.
According to Lauren, when and if Kate ever gets engaged she will let everyone know.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 · 15h15 hours ago FYI: If @Kateplusmy8 was engaged, she'd tell us. Haters trying to stir pot. They need to move on. Can't stand that Kate and kids r happy
==== But ... but Lauren, Kate isn't happy. She's always bitching and moaning about how hard she has it. She's forever complaining about all the work she has to do and how exhausted she is. And I'm sorry to say her kids look miserable.
In my previous comment, it should read "What better way to PROVE that stories about her are fake".
Make up an obvious false story, get the rags to run with it, and then publicly deny it, not just once, but twice with tweets that made absolutely no sense. Then when they do print a true story, she can say "see they're lying again--no truth to that story either".
I have not posted about the Duggar issue because I haven't seen the show and don't know much about their beliefs other than the little I have read since these terrible incidents came to light. But I have a question. How is everyone so certain that the parents never got any counseling or evaluation for Josh or the victims? I know the 2006 report talked about sending Josh away for a time, but have the parents or anyone else with actual knowledge stated that Josh or the victims never got further evaluation or therapy? I know they said they prayed, sought forgiveness, etc. But have they said that is all they did? That is the assumption everyone seems to be making and I just wonder what that is based on. I'm not looking to pick a fight -- just asking.
Anonymous said... 172 (Leslie) I feel like I am in the minority but I don't Kate is dating Jeff. I think they are both fame whores and knew or even set-up the photos of themselves. They did this for the publicity of course. I can't wait to hear about their business project. If it is a foundation I call bullshit without even knowing what it is about. It will flop after a year. I think she is stupid to start any business or foundation with this creep. His track record does not sound solid by any means. I want to know why he changed his name. Kate loves the speculation about her dating. **** Could explain why Kate looked like a wet blanket with Jeff. I've seen pics of her and Steve where she is very much connected to him and looking at him lovingly. Anyone can start a foundation. Good luck with that if Jeff expects Kate to run it or do any modicum of real work. Not happening, and charities are a lot of work. I'd like to know why Jeff changed his name and why the media keeps saying he's 51.
Jon also has family and friends to help. ************************************************************************************* Thanks Tucker's Mom. I tend to forget about the kids' extended family members since TFMJG continues to insist on raising them in semi-isolation behind the gates of the konpound. ****************** Re: filming. I posted last summer about watching a TV travel show film at our local Big Name water park and how close the cameras were to the faces of the teenagers being filmed. Who wants to spend their summer with a camera pointed up their nose? Oh, wait . . . . ************ Re: the interviews both Jon and TFMJG gave over the weekend. Jon won hands down. Even though his took place in Atlantic City, it was clear the kids were nowhere near or involved in his work unlike TFMJG who needs the kids in order to 'work' and has nothing planned for them besides filming and sleeping in late. If I was TFMJG's attorney, I'd tell her to shut up or get them in some activities stat. Because I think these interviews WILL end up in court.
I'm starting to feel hopeful about this custody hearing.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2h2 hours ago @Kateplusmy8 Have U not leanred by now....you are REQUIRED 2report every move you make 2the tabloids! Crazy indeed. Buy a ring...#Engaged!
This is funny coming from someone who seems to feel that Kate should tell her everything that is going on in Kate's and the kids' lives.
How ironic that the first photo of a famous Transgender person, Caitlin Jenner (formerly known as Bruce) will bump the Duggar scandal off the front page.....
TLC stinks said... 179 I did not realize Cancun was in PA! LOL. She's such a liar. ***** Oh, ya! So many things are locate din PA! Cancun, Maine, NYC, Vegas, just to name a few.
Either that, or Kate has a portkey in her kitchen...
Let's see how much minimization the Duggar parents throw out on their Wed interview.....
It was 12 years ago, no biggie, let's move on - this isn't something that time erases. It's not something that you just get over with time.
He was a young teen - he was 15 - old enough to know better, especially since he'd been caught and punished the year before
It was young women - uh no....it was your little sisters. Who were at the most: 12, 11,10, 6
He was just 'playing doctor' - uh...he'd been changing diapers, shouldn't have been any questions there. And, 15 is a little old to be playing doctor.
The girls were enticing him somehow - uh, huh. A 5 or 6 year old.
It was a teenage mistake - no. A teenage mistake is all kinds of things..coming home 20 minutes after curfew, driving drunk, cheating on a test, stealing. It is NOT sexual molestation of your little sisters.
He got treatment - no, he didn't. He went to help your friend remodel a basement or something.
He met with law enforcement - uh huh. A guy who had sexual issues himself. *There's* a great resource. Also a guy they were counting on *not* to report it the way he should have. And just how did they know that? Hmmmm??
He met with the elders of the church - who also had sexual issues, to the point of having to step down from positions. Yeah, they were great resources, too.
The girls were sleeping - implying they didn't know it was happening.
They probably were NOT sleeping, but were laying there frozen, waiting for it to stop. They didn't even have enough knowledge at that age to hope that it didn't go any further. At least, I hope they didn't.
TLC stinks said... 181 I could not even get through that interview. The reporter must have recorded it. ***** Kate is unable to focus tightly and answer a question. She's always in her own head, following her own stream of thoughts, and appears completely, astronomically unaware of whether or not her response actually makes any sense whatsoever. She's following it in her head, but everyone else is like, wtf??
She needs to start by asking herself and the interviewer if she's answered their question. Eh, who am I kidding.
imnotobsessed.com has a story about Kate's "engagement" with pictures that a credited to FameFlynet, Inc. So I guess there were paps there taking pictures or someone sold the pictures to FameFlynet.
This is the best one of the bunch!! Kate should learn to stop making faces when people are taking pictures.
I feel like TLC gave us a cold dose of "reality" with the whole Duggars saga. The public finds out that TLC's favorite family has a molester within, the media is hard core on the story, fans and non-fans are outraged, advertisers are fleeing the show and what does TLC do ?? They throw a party and celebrate the abusive mother of 8. What??? They should of pulled the plug on the Duggars. Even if they do it today or tomorrow it's to little to late. They should have done it right away.
BTW, if TLC can't or won't get rid of the Duggars what does that tell us about Kate the abuser of babies and puppies! The only way they get rid of programs is low ratings. Plain and simple. I actually feel bad for all the people who used to write in to TLC all through the years to complain about Kate. TLC's response was delete, delete,delete, delete etc.
Tucker's Mom I always agree with you but on Kate's date it's no,no and no!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1m1 minute ago Very nice, insightful interview Kate! You described a life #HardToImagine! LOL http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/ … @Kateplusmy8
Hey Milo--If it's so "insightful", why don't you ask Kate when it was that she moved from Wernersville to Hershey?
As an adult, I get up about the same time each day. Sleeping in an extra 3 hours over and over again would get so old and boring!
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So do I. She talks about sleeping in A LOT. It's setting them up for very poor sleeping habits, productivity habits, and it's indicative of not getting enough rest. She is a 40 year old woman, if her biological clock is working right, her body probably isn't going to let her sleep in that much. That's what a 14 year old's body is wired to do, not 40. It also sets you off on a terrible start to the weekend, wasting the whole morning not getting anything done because you're snoring away. I've never heard of a parent telling kids TO sleep in, they're always telling them don't waste away your morning, or go to bed earlier if you want to sleep all morning. She's something else.
What's more, if the kids really are in activities, it's pretty rare someone isn't going to have something going on in the morning. With the amount of sleeping in they do, I'm skeptical they are involved in these activities, or if they are they're getting up on their own and getting a ride with some other parent who isn't a lazy sloth.
Virtually any doctor will tell you it's best to try to wake up and go to bed at about the same time every night. She should mention this to her doctor, it's that strange.
". . . It seems to me Kate has tried to brainwash them into believing that there is little fun to be had without TLC in their lives, especially based on Mady's comment last year about staring at the walls."
I don't know if you recall the "last episode" in 2011 (the one where Kate threw herself a pity party and Steve was encouraged to dump all over Jon on camera), but this line from Mady is pretty much verbatim what she said in that exit-interview montage. Unless TLC scripted that line for her, it's what Kate has been drumming into their heads practically since the show started. Disgusting doesn't seem adequate to describe what she's done to these little hearts and minds.
Because I think these interviews WILL end up in court.
I'm starting to feel hopeful about this custody hearing. ****** It should end up in court. Don't know if it's germane to the judge, but to me, it speaks volumes about Kate and the fact that she looks at summer and really, any free custody time as time she can film the shit out of them and make money.
From that article that is dated today at Philly magazine.
"And the other thing is, my kids are very perceptive. They know if people are sneaking photos of them. They have radar like you wouldn’t believe. They are right 100 percent of the time. I’m like, but you’re 7!
jbranck1980 said... 188 How ironic that the first photo of a famous Transgender person, Caitlin Jenner (formerly known as Bruce) will bump the Duggar scandal off the front page..... ***** Caitlyn isn't going to bump the Duggars of the news. She has her big debut coming, but the Duggar's scandal isn't going anywhere, because it's not superfluous gossip. It's real. Crimes of sexual molestation of children were committed and covered up. Victims have not gotten justice. The perp is walking around making babies like they're going out of style.
So I was curious if I could find an email for the Philly Mag author who interviewed Kate. I wanted to ask if the questions were hers or supplied by TLC or if hers, pre-approved. Samantha Giusti is the Executive Director of the nonprofit Delaware Valley Legacy Fund which promotes the advancement of gay, lesbian, bisexual, community. She is gay and has a female partner. Anyway, I guess she also gets paid assignments from the magazine in addition to her nonprofit stuff. Kind of ironic about her interviewing Kate? Anywho, I may still contact her although I rather go through the magazine if I can find an email. My only question, again, is was she limited on what she could ask Kate. I say she was. She brought up the restaurant but not Jeff Millionaire.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 805 Newer› Newest»Rainbirdie: The girls said that Kate promises certain things if she want them to do certain things and they weigh the pros and cons and decide if they want to do them. We know the kids were bribed at that photo-shoot- Kate passed out toys at the end and said "I want to reward you' when Leah did not want to wear the silver dress.She also suggests giving them cash to do things like go in the freezing cold pool!
localyocul : I think Kate would accommodate Cara since she herself really only eat 'veges' and it has made Cara slimmer, a positive thing to Kate.Cara could eat the 'famous K8 salads" with her... Remember her suggesting to Mady in the restaurant in Maine to have a salad?
Prairie Mary, I am sorry for your dad's recurrence. My thoughts are with you. As to the Willis clan, I am withholding judgment, but I am cynical after all we'VE seen
The Duggar problem, among many, is even an unlikely story now seems quite likely. The Gawker story about JimBobtying a boy's hand together as punishment for masturbating does not seem far fetched given their weird obsession 're normal sexual urges.
Prairie Mary, thinking of you and your family.
https://instagram.com/p/3WdY56CYi9/
Thank you Sue Buddy for my morning laugh. Kate, a portapotty and two new bffs, just hanging out like the teen she thinks she is. Good times.
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Kate looks like those boobies got a little help again. Maybe the 4 days missing with no contact story was because she was getting surgery. Does Jeff like them bigger than Steve or were they sagging too much?
Kate does not have to accomodate a vegetarian diet. I firmly believe that 99% of the time either the meals are from the paid Chef or Mady and Cara are cooking.
As far as I'm concerned, she's a woman...
Does that mean as far as others are concerned she's a man?
Thanks Admin. for posting the above pictures. I must say I do like the dress, appropriate for the particular event, but the shoes - a big NO NO. What was she thinking? Surely flats would be more suitable for a walk about particularly after having broken her foot(?) er..her toe a year or so ago.
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I cannot believe how little has been said about the PA thingy....she really is falling into total obscurity....Kate who??? Oh yeah...she sucked on DWtS, was a mean control freak bitch who hated her kids, boinked the body guard and just snagged a no good absent parent shady millionaire right??? You mean THAT Kate right?? 😂yeah..,,she's got quite the legacy
Thanks Jane, Millicent, JoyinVirginia, for your kind thoughts 😃
But even with the trials my family keeps going through, we are
still happier than tfw, who has left her extended family far behind
her. I hope that Jon gets the 8 together with grandparents, aunts,
uncles and cousins regularity. It must be so hard on all concerned. She looks good because she spends money the 8 have earned to keep herself nipped, tucked, vacuumed and filled to keep stay that way. If you have the big bucks, no one ever needs to look old these days. But she will never lose that stink-eye expression I love so much, she will always have that look!
Enjoy the afternoon everyone!
Sue_Buddy said... 7
Does that mean as far as others are concerned she's a man?
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That must be it. lol.
TLC hurt themselves by so harshly limiting who could go to the xtr speshel event. If they had let less brainwashed people in there would have been more controversy and more press.
Thanks for the photo link Sue Buddy!
The dress is really cute.
The long hair looks like it would be hot in the summer sun. It's been a while since its been so long, maybe time for a new hair style and photo spread to document it.
I just got my hair trimmed really short for summer. My hair was getting too. Long and it was hot esp when we went to the beach.
That's the first dress I've ever seen from her I actually wanted. Really cute. I wish I was good at figuring out what it is.
It seems to me the only thing a boy could do with his hands tied in front is...oh never mind.
I'm also interested in the head shaving shaming. It seems so archaic to publicly put a person on display like that. Kind of like the perp walks of the 1940s.
Makes you wonder who actually picked the dress, she said snarkily. It's good taste is certainly not part of Kate's fashion sense. The shoes were ridiculous.
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http://m.christianpost.com/news/christian-pr-expert-says-josh-duggars-apology-is-not-enough-to-satisfy-sexual-molestation-scandal--139688/
Things don't look to good for this upcoming interview. The link above goes to an interview with Hunter Frederick who is a Christian focused pr expert. He has publicly denied that the duggars are.clients. he discusses criteria his firm use in approving clients. He thinks the public wants to see the legal process for Josh, and because of the statute of limitations that won't happen. He doesn't think the public will forgive or forget with out legal consequences for Josh.
Anonymous said... 187
(Leslie)
Has anybody seen those popular waist cinchers that greatly reduced the waist if worn over a period of time? I don't know where in the heck all the internal organs go but apparently it will work if you wear it on a full-time basis for a while.
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Why do you think Victorian ladies fainted so frequently? One of the organs that gets squeezed unmercifully by a corset is the lungs. When you're surprised or shocked, you tend to gasp. If you try to gasp and can't get any air in, you'll keel over.
Mommy and daddy are going to be doing all the talking for their grown man son.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/30/media/duggar-parents-plan-interview/
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 10
That's the first dress I've ever seen from her I actually wanted. Really cute. I wish I was good at figuring out what it is.
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They truly think if they can just get their God story out there all will b forgiven, Disgusting hypocritical sanctimonious narcissists!!
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 10
That's the first dress I've ever seen from her I actually wanted. Really cute. I wish I was good at figuring out what it is.
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Lily Pulitzer? Maybe Target lets her pre-shop?
Thanks Jane, Millicent, JoyinVirginia, for your kind thoughts 😃
But even with the trials my family keeps going through, we are
still happier than tfw, who has left her extended family far behind
her. I hope that Jon gets the 8 together with grandparents, aunts,
uncles and cousins regularity. It must be so hard on all concerned. She looks good because she spends money the 8 have earned to keep herself nipped, tucked, vacuumed and filled to keep stay that way. If you have the big bucks, no one ever needs to look old these days. But she will never lose that stink-eye expression I love so much, she will always have that look!
Enjoy the afternoon everyone!
Maybe someone here can answer a question for me. Is there a big difference between female and male narcissists? If Katie were a guy and father would her/his actions have been different? Would public opinion be different?
Admin.....check Ann Taylor loft....she may have snagged a gift card (snark) and we all know she can easily spend $500 a month there according to her journal.
http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-engaged/photo/1059049/
Has Radar been reading here? Funny thing is, at least from the crappy photos, that "engagement?" ring looks like her old one!
Hmm... on the heels of Kate peeshah-ing rumors that she's eloping with Mr. Millionaire Droopy Drawers, she shows up to a huge function with a ring on that finger.
So "the ring" has finally been spotted by the tabs. I'm sure Katie's thinking, what took you so long? Just another lame attempt to keep her name in the rag mags. Yawn.
http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-engaged/photo/1059049/
Slight OT: The Gardners(you remember them, the parents who had the miracle quads-The Quad Squad exploitation debacle) are having a meet and greet this week. They are now literally parading their kids the exact same way the Dionne Quints were paraded. Who treats their kids like circus animals, taking them in public places specifically to allow people to stare? I am losing my faith in humanity, honestly I am so beyond disgusted. Not to mention these are premature quadruplets, they can't possibly be up to date on their shots, their immune systems are not sufficiently developed and two of the quads barely got off of oxygen a month ago or so. And their parents are now taking them to a crowded place where they can catch anything. God, what is wrong with people?
computer out till tue .
http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-engaged/photo/1059049/
Whaaat??
Hmmm.....she actually looks pretty good....the 11's are showing but her face doesn't look so plastic
http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-engaged/photo/1059004/
http://m.christianpost.com/news/christian-pr-expert-says-josh-duggars-apology-is-not-enough-to-satisfy-sexual-molestation-scandal--139688/
"Josh is accused of molesting five young women when he was 14..."
Young WOMEN? Let's stop sugar coating this shit! They were girls and a little child of 5!
Math Girl said... 18
Anonymous said... 187
(Leslie)
Has anybody seen those popular waist cinchers that greatly reduced the waist if worn over a period of time? I don't know where in the heck all the internal organs go but apparently it will work if you wear it on a full-time basis for a while.
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Why do you think Victorian ladies fainted so frequently?
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I think the Kardashian wastes of spaces have been taking selfish using these implements of torture.
They are idiots. Dolts. Truly stupid.
You can't "train" your waist. You can squish your organs and damage them. You can constrict tissue and temporarily change your shape.
But, you can't bind your body into submission.
What a f*cked up family.
Mommy and daddy are going to be doing all the talking for their grown man son.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/30/media/duggar-parents-plan-interview/
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Well, in my opinion, I'd say the parents caused this whole mess so yes, they ought to be the ones that have to talk about it.
Josh was 14; yes, he should have known it was wrong, but dang, in that warped household, who knows what these kids think. At 14, what is he supposed to do, insist that his parents turn him in to the authorities? He, like Michelle and the rest of the family, do what Boob tells them to do.
So Boob ought to be the one that has his feet held to the fire on this one. I lay more blame on him than anyone else. He is, according to him, the head of his household, so yep, he's 100% responsible.
Oh for Pete's sake, Radar. That's a ring she wears all the time.
I also think a good reason for Jim Bob and Babykins to give an interview is how many questions they can dodge by saying they want to respect the privacy of others involved and/or they won't answer as they don't want to speak for them.
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Well, in my opinion, I'd say the parents caused this whole mess so yes, they ought to be the ones that have to talk about it.
Josh was 14; yes, he should have known it was wrong, but dang, in that warped household, who knows what these kids think. At 14, what is he supposed to do, insist that his parents turn him in to the authorities? He, like Michelle and the rest of the family, do what Boob tells them to do.
So Boob ought to be the one that has his feet held to the fire on this one. I lay more blame on him than anyone else. He is, according to him, the head of his household, so yep, he's 100% responsible.
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Josh chose to take a high profile job knowing full well that he held quite a dirty little secret, so I don't know why he shouldn't be expected to speak for himself. He is no longer 14.
I just don't know what they could possibly say that would generate a turn around of public opinion,
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Frederick explained that his clients go through an intense vetting process to determine whether they are capable of being helped and whether it's worth the company's investment. Despite rumors that he was hired to help the Duggars get through the scandal, Frederick said things did not work out with the Duggar family for reasons he could not reveal.
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I found the statement that this Christian PR rep. said that things did not work out with the Duggars for reasons he can not disclose. I can only imagine. The Duggars are not going to listen to anybody when it comes to their family.
I just don't know what they could possibly say that would generate a turn around of public opinion,
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I don't know either. Their arrogance is incredible. They actually think they're going to be able to explain this.
It reminds me of how murderer Michael Peterson wanted to take the stand at his murder trial. He ended up listening to his attorneys in the end and didn't testify, but these people all think they will actually be able to explain.
I don't think anyone has ever told the Duggars no before, and it shows. They don't deal with it well.
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@Kateplusmy8 Did you buy the dress you wore yesterday? So summery. Just lovely.
No, it was a "grift."
PJ: That cartoon is in the paper itself. It is in the Chicago Tribune Sunday May 30, 2015 in the first section. It might be online, I don't read online.
"Josh is accused of molesting five young women when he was 14..."
Young WOMEN? Let's stop sugar coating this shit! They were girls and a little child of 5!
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Young women is a totally misleading term and it's beyond me why they would use it.
Children or minors are really the only ways to describe them if you aren't going to bother to say their (shocking) ages.
Stop the presses. The sheeple and the haters all agree her dress was on target!!
Thanks to those who found it. For only 60 bucks I'm going to have to get this one. If Jeff Millionaire got it for her, he sure is a cheapskate. I wonder if he told her it costs a million bucks, baby. He's totally the sort of rich guy who would buy his wife fake pearls.
Cara has slimmed down. Good for her. Looks like Kate still hasn't taken them to the dermatologist yet.
Yes, those bobbies manage to grow as Kate slims down. Amazing. Her rings look like they are about to fall off her fingers. Wonder if she planted that Radar story. Definitely not a new ring on her left hand. I would question more about who gave her the heart necklace.
I liked the dress too but the shoes were atrocious with it. And that hair!
LOL. That face she had in that picture with the young guy! What was her problem?
Anybody mention Stevie being there?
Wow, these tabloids really don't care how foolish they look. Kate has tweeted that she bought the ring for herself for her birthday.
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I just don't know what they could possibly say that would generate a turn around of public opinion,
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I don't know either. Their arrogance is incredible. They actually think they're going to be able to explain this.
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For sanity's sake, I think it's important to remember that there are people out there that will gloss over this, and still watch.
There are people who will be silly happy if there's a spin off with the older girls.
Trying to apply common sense (and decency) just doesn't apply.
It seems unreal to me that TLC might be formulating a spin off. Do these young women just ignore the elephant in the room and pretend they're not victims of their brother?
Do their parents never appear on their show, and if they do, do they all act like nothing happened? That their own parents didn't re-victimize them by making them live with their molester?
Does Josh and his family cease to exist?
Children or minors are really the only ways to describe them if you aren't going to bother to say their (shocking) ages.
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And the media has to stop pussyfooting around the truth; Josh molested 4 of his sisters.
ROL is a laugh a minute. If you look at the pics, 2 of the pics are of Kates right hand, in which she does wear a ring on the finger, that is not her left hand, only the one in the circle, with the sharpie in it has a ring on it. Kate is a leftie. Unless they reversed the pics. But 2 of thoses pics are right hand. But then Kate does wear rings on both hands. It means nothing, must be PR crap from Kate camp, must need money.
I don't care if Jim Bob covered up Josh's molestations. I don't care if he delayed reporting and skirted around the laws so that Josh was never held accountable legally.
Josh is a grown man with a 4th child on the way, and he needs to stop letting his parents decide how things are going to go down and man up.
At 14, he had no choice when Jim Bob perpetrated the grand cover up. As an adult, Josh has been complicit in the cover up and has taken measures to stop the information from becoming public.
Josh actively pursued politics, where he used his position as a bully pulpit, claiming moral superiority over homosexuals. He's been pointing his finger at others when his past makes me want to vomit.
It truly scares me how Republicans have cozied up to the likes of the Duggars, who are simply simple, ignorant people who happen to have struck gold with a tv show.
It scared me how much power they've wielded.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 44
Stop the presses. The sheeple and the haters all agree her dress was on target!!
Thanks to those who found it. For only 60 bucks I'm going to have to get this one.
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I'm betting you'll accessorize it much better ;-)
From Kate's twitter:
"um no. I liked the ring so I put it on myself ... To myself for my bday. Had to have something about that # to make me smile:)"
I'm betting you'll accessorize it much better ;-)
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We can play Who Wore it Best like they do in the tabloids.
May I put in a plug for Nordstroms? Their online site is fantastic and while their regular clothes and accessories are pricey, the sale area is fantastic! Plus, they have free shipping and free returns - they pay the postage.
I don't care if Jim Bob covered up Josh's molestations. I don't care if he delayed reporting and skirted around the laws so that Josh was never held accountable legally.
Josh is a grown man with a 4th child on the way, and he needs to stop letting his parents decide how things are going to go down and man up.
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100% agree. Mama and Daddy should not be responsible for handling this for him now.
Either the whole family needs to STFU, or if someone is going to speak, Josh should speak, and of course the victims if they want to. This Mama and Daddy handling Josh's messes is just plain cowardly. He clearly wanted to be a politician for heaven sake, so grow up and deal with your problems.
ROL are a bunch of nit-wits. If you type in KG pics, and look through the pics you will see that ring, on different fingers and hands. and kate just shot it down, it was a ring she got for her 40th and wears it.
Of course Kate could be lying, she lied about dating, so who knows.
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May I put in a plug for Nordstroms? Their online site is fantastic and while their regular clothes and accessories are pricey, the sale area is fantastic! Plus, they have free shipping and free returns - they pay the postage.
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I've gotten some good deals from Nordy's. I've been a fan of online shopping with them for years, since I bought a pair of Ugg boots for a really great price!
Maybe someone here can answer a question for me. Is there a big difference between female and male narcissists? If Katie were a guy and father would her/his actions have been different? Would public opinion be different?
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I don't know the answer to that though I suspect there is not much of a difference. However, the stereotypical roles that women and men play in families I think has created situations where female narcissists are much harder to deal with, especially if you are their child.
I think kids can be more resilient to a stern narcissistic father; perhaps he is often at work and you don't see him much anyway. But when it comes from the mother who you're supposed to go to for drying your tears, and who is more likely to stay home with you and traditionally spent more time with the kids (traditionally, don't freak out), it's harder to deal with. Of course as society moves out of those roles that may all change.
Either the whole family needs to STFU, or if someone is going to speak, Josh should speak, and of course the victims if they want to. This Mama and Daddy handling Josh's messes is just plain cowardly. He clearly wanted to be a politician for heaven sake, so grow up and deal with your problems.
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Josh should be the first one to face the firing line, not Mommy and Daddy.
I think this makes Josh look really weak.
May I put in a plug for Nordstroms? Their online site is fantastic and while their regular clothes and accessories are pricey, the sale area is fantastic! Plus, they have free shipping and free returns - they pay the postage.
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Yes I love them. Whenever I really like something usually I put it in my cart but don't buy it, hen check it every week or so. It'll go on sale.
Returns are a breeze.
I bought my very favorite boots for them, Hunter Wellingtons, for a fraction of the retail price.
"um no. I liked the ring so I put it on myself ... To myself for my bday.
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It finally happened. Narcissus is marrying herself.
The dress reminds me a little bit of the Sound of Music play clothes Maria made for the kids. I think that's why I lie it so much.
Kate paid: $110. for that dress if she bought it at Macys. The dress is a : Michael Kors. If you go to type in Michael kors, and go to the one at Macys, the dress is on the second page. And if you go to Michael Kors official site his dresses are $1,000 or more.
Kate paid: $110. for that dress if she bought it at Macys. The dress is a : Michael Kors.
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It's on sale at Nordstrom for $59.70. I love their site and have gotten some really good deals there. I also like the blue version.
P.J. said... 77
BTW, her ring finger seems occupied. Is this usual? I don't really pay that much attention. Or is she doing it for the kids, like she did during the divorce?
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That's right, I sold that story to ROL. I needed rent money.
He clearly wanted to be a politician for heaven sake, so grow up and deal with your problems.
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He has always reminded me of a pasty-faced wimp. I guess first impressions sometimes are correct.
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100% agree. Mama and Daddy should not be responsible for handling this for him now.
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This isn't about speaking for Josh. This is about saving their gravy train and their ministry. Just think of all the souls lost if their show is cancelled.
At what age is it legit to refer to someone as a young woman?
14? 15? 18?
Certainly not 5. Or even 11.
I was thinking 17 or 18. Age of consent?
Stop referring to those YOUNG children as young women!!!
Stop the presses. The sheeple and the haters all agree her dress was on target!!
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Except for one who said it was a cheapo for fifty bucks. Defending Kate here...if she was frugal for this purchase, she's criticized for being cheap. If she had paid in the hundreds of dollars, she's accused of paying way too much and spending the kids' money.
Sometimes I wonder what the non-fans really want.
Probably a little graphic, but isn't the vagina internal? I'm not aware of any part of it being external.
So for those who say there was no penetration, there had to be a small amount of penetration to reach the vagina.
And the Arkansas law doesn't differentiate any degrees of anything when it comes to child molestation. You either molested or you didn't.
Notice how the law says CHILD molestation, not young woman molestation.
Referring to it as young women implies consensual behavior between two people of more or less the same age, two young teens.
Not an older teen molesting a sleeping CHILD.
Sometimes I wonder what the non-fans really want.
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For her to go away?
So Boob ought to be the one that has his feet held to the fire on this one. I lay more blame on him than anyone else. He is, according to him, the head of his household, so yep, he's 100% responsible.
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Josh chose to take a high profile job knowing full well that he held quite a dirty little secret, so I don't know why he shouldn't be expected to speak for himself. He is no longer 14.
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I certainly think Josh should be held accountable for his actions, don't get me wrong.
But as a kid at 14, Boob made all the decisions regarding the molestations.
But I also don't think it's fair to tar and feather Josh for decisions BOOB made all those years ago.
I hope whatever comes out of this ridiculous Fox news interview further established this show needs to be canceled.
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Concerning Kate's dress, at $60 or even $100, piecing and patching mommas of 8 don't buy dresses that pricey. Piecing and patching mommas wear what they already have in the closet.
I think it's fine to refer to a teenager as a young woman but in this case it's not okay because it minimizes and misleads about the true nature of who he molested. And good point about how so many keep leaving out it was his SISTERS.
Because a young woman can mean someone in their teens, 20's and even 30's, it's damn misleading. These were helpless little ones, many of whom didn't even know what sex was. Some were sleeping for God sake!
This isn't about speaking for Josh. This is about saving their gravy train and their ministry.
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For them and them alone that's what it's about.
I think they would throw Josh to the wolves if it meant they could keep that train a-chugging. Actually, we'll see for ourselves exactly how much they're willing to throw him under the bus if they make any comments about the show continuing without him. They're bad people.
Young women is a totally misleading term and it's beyond me why they would use it.
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Young woman don't sound as bad his his little sisters.
This isn't about speaking for Josh. This is about saving their gravy train and their ministry. Just think of all the souls lost if their show is cancelled.
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I know, it's so materialistic for these Christians.
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But when it comes from the mother who you're supposed to go to for drying your tears, and who is more likely to stay home with you and traditionally spent more time with the kids (traditionally, don't freak out), it's harder to deal with.
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I would guess that there is a huge difference in male and female narcs.
The male narc that I knew was too good to work at mediocre jobs but thought highly educated professionals were his peers even though he lacked any education or experience in those fields. But emotionally, he fretted a lot about his image and his health. He was almost feminine in a lot of respects. He wanted to talk, if the conversation centered around him. He also couldn't bear the thought of his wife's attention not being on him, so they had no children.
The female narcs I've known put themselves ahead of their children and that just goes against nature. Thus, I think they can be more damaging, emotionally. Women are much more driven by emotion. They yield much power over children who are unable to understand how they are being played. All children want is love and the female narc knows how to manipulate that. They can give it and take it away in a heartbeat. The poor kids grow up thinking that behaviour is normal. No one can hurt you like a narc mother can.
It's on sale at Nordstrom for $59.70. I love their site and have gotten some really good deals there. I also like the blue version.
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I at first did a woo-hoo only to realize that there's only one size left at the sale price, not my size.
Maybe the fans lapped it all up just like Duchess Katherine's fans.
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I purchased a dress for my niece's formal wedding on Macy's website. And I saw a pop-up ad about two weeks later for the exact same dress that was now 1/2 off. So I emailed them and asked if they would honor the sale price. They immediately emailed back and said would gladly refund $90 to my credit card. And it was free shipping both ways. Also went to her registry and they had great half-off sale prices there as well. I bought a heavy etched crystal cheese platter for $40 bucks. Go Macy's!
Also I needed a pair of super cheap silver shoes to go with the dress. I certainly did not want to spend a lot of money because I will probably only wear the silver shoes one more time after the wedding. Target had super comfortable silver shoes on sale for $5 bucks. Oh yes, and I swear they looked and felt every bit as much as a mid - price shoe. Best of all, it was the first place I stopped to look for cheap shoes.
A hint to break in new shoes especially if they are a tiny tight. I put on a pair of socks and then walked around outside for about 5 minutes for two to three days. It stretched them out just a little and I did not have any blisters or new shoe break-in woes. This is very good also if onen foot is bigger than the other. Just do the above for the one foot.
Except for one who said it was a cheapo for fifty bucks. Defending Kate here...if she was frugal for this purchase, she's criticized for being cheap. If she had paid in the hundreds of dollars, she's accused of paying way too much and spending the kids' money.
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I'm not sure if there were other comments but I made a comment that JEFF was cheap IF he got it for her. I was making a joke. I wasn't criticizing Kate for being cheap. That dress could have been listed for 350 for all I know and I wouldn't be the wiser. There's nothing cheap looking about it, and it's great that it's listed for a price most women can afford. I would laugh only if JEFF got it for her, because the party line from his camp is that he is Daddy Warbucks here.
JMO, but I don't think 27 yo Josh should be taking the punishment of his 14-15yo self. JimBoob dictated the entire thing.....what was Josh going to say, "Oh no, father, I should be tried and jailed"? Again, it was his parents who so masively failed him and his sisters at that point in their lives and if they insist on this interview being televised, it is they who should be answering for it. (that they want to be interviewed on tv about it is another entire conversation)
The male narc that I knew was too good to work at mediocre jobs but thought highly educated professionals were his peers even though he lacked any education or experience in those fields. But emotionally, he fretted a lot about his image and his health. He was almost feminine in a lot of respects. He wanted to talk, if the conversation centered around him. He also couldn't bear the thought of his wife's attention not being on him, so they had no children.
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Yes, I see that. The only male narcissist I think I've ever known was a lawyer and works ALL THE TIME. He has two children, and I bet you they are no more damaged than any other child whose dad works all the time. Dad just isn't home, and the victims of his narcissism are mostly his coworkers, not his kids, I'm willing to bet.
A female narc may be more apt to bring her children into her sick games as players, and has been that I've seen. Whereas the men are just sort of benching the kids.
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Kate paid: $110. for that dress if she bought it at Macys
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How is it known she purchased it at Macy's if it's on sale at Nordstrom? Fact is that several of the department stores here sell Kors dresses and Kate shops at these malls.
JMO, but I don't think 27 yo Josh should be taking the punishment of his 14-15yo self.
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An interview isn't a punishment. That's their choice to do it. His parents shouldn't be speaking for him or trying to explain things for him. Either he should speak for himself, or he should decline to comment. But throwing Mama and Daddy out there to do it is immature. Lots of people have to answer for things that happened a long time ago, even when they were children, and he is no exception. Especially when it's something so serious that it is very likely he might still be dangerous around children. It's not like he stole the family car for a joy ride when he was 16. This is different.
His parents can speak for themselves and how they failed their family. That they can answer for. Anything else is for Josh to say.
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I think both the parents and Josh should be interviewed. And I think they should be interviewed separately too. As many have already stated he is a married father of three and over the age of 25. He needs to speak for himself and not have his parents do it.
I agree, what could they possibly say at this point to make a difference. Just when the scandal is beginning to die down in the press they are going to bring it back in a huge way.The scandal will never be forgotten but why resurrected it in the media. I wonder if TLC is on board with this. This is not going to end in their favor by any means.
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The dress reminds me a little bit of the Sound of Music play clothes Maria made for the kids. I think that's why I lie it so much.
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Yes! Weren't those outfits green and white? They were wonderful.
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JMO, but I don't think 27 yo Josh should be taking the punishment of his 14-15yo self
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For me, legal charges and jail time are off the table. There's no point seeking it or wanting it.
Still, Josh is culpable because he perpetrated crimes that are sexually based, and he needs to be evaluated properly.
It's not as thought we're talking about a few incidence of shoplifting, graffiti, dine and dash or drinking underage.
Josh molested over and over again and he needs to be evaluated to have some degree of assurance that he no longer wants to fondle children.
He has 3, soon to be 4 children. This needs to happen.
Josh has to be a man and face the music.
His parents can speak for themselves and how they failed their family. That they can answer for. Anything else is for Josh to say.
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What needs to be investigated is whether or not Josh fully understands what he did to his victims, does he still have these urges, are his own children in any danger, and are there other victims out there.
Jail time would accomplish none of he above.
Is physical abuse typical with narc parents? To clarify the narc parent physically abusing their children, not the parent having been abused themselves.
For those who like documentaries, I just watched a great one this afternoon. "Life Itself " about the late, great Roger Ebert. Much of it is in his own words, taken from his autobiography of the same name. It's sad and joyful and uplifting and informative. Ebert is shown, warts and all, from his massive ego and sometimes arrogant behavior to the loving and supportive relationship with his wife Chaz and, of course, the partnership with Gene Siskel. Parts of it are difficult to watch, particularly of his horrendous deformities after his cancer surgery. The surgery robbed him of his ability to speak, but it didn't take his voice. He moved into blogging on the internet and participating in social media, while continuing to write his movie reviews. Two very big thumbs up from me. I borrowed the DVD from my library, but it's available on Netflix streaming and available to rent on Amazon streaming.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 4m4 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC So many of your fans were thrilled to meet you & have pictures taken with you. They said you were so sweet & beautiful.😘👏
They just don't get it do they? How dense can a person be? Is it because they don't understand how pr works at a public venue, the celebrity's purpose for being there, that he/she is representing a network? Of course they will present themselves in the best possible way. They are not going to be snotty, abusive, refusing pictures and autographs.
Sometimes I wonder if the sheeple really are this stupid or just pretend to be in order to get attention.
Jimbob always gave me the creeps.
I'm not sure if there were other comments but I made a comment that JEFF was cheap IF he got it for her. I was making a joke. I wasn't criticizing Kate for being cheap.
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No, admin. It wasn't anything you said. I was referring to a tweet on Kate's Timeline:
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Aw @kateplusmy8...running out of money?Can't afford Ann Taylor these days? No gifts cards in the mail? That dress u wore was SO CHEAP!! $50?
That is a cute dress ! Not sure why she chose those shoes w it...lol
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Is physical abuse typical with narc parents? To clarify the narc parent physically abusing their children, not the parent having been abused themselves.
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I don't know if it's typical, but the psychological and emotional abuse is way worse.
My mother was physically abusive and loved to brag about it. That's why when sKate talks about discipline and uses terms like "Yes, indeedy." it makes my skin crawl.
Josh molested over and over again and he needs to be evaluated to have some degree of assurance that he no longer wants to fondle children.
He has 3, soon to be 4 children. This needs to happen.
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Absolutely. In this entire mess, that is one of the things that concerns me the most. Anna lives in her own little world. She's not going to be vigilant in looking out for her children. Somebody certainly needs to make sure that they are safe.
One more explanation of why I believe it is right to hold BOOB more acountable than Josh:
Ya;ll aren't looking at his guilt from the quiverfull/ husband is the authority head perspective.
What Josh did was while he was under BOOB's authority, hence BOOB, according to their theological theory, BOOB is accountable, not Josh.
BOOB failed his son, AND his daughters. The judgement falls on BOOB.
(I am in no way excusing what Josh did, nor his responsibility in his behavior-but again, their religious beliefs hold BOOB accountable because of his authority in the household).
"Josh has to be a man and face the music."
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I totally agree with this. I just don't think a televised interview is the appropriate venue. The fact remains that his parents sold their family to television; the parents orchestrated Josh's 'confessions' and (fake)'rehab' when he was 14-15 yrs old; and the parents are the ones that should be discussing this. What Josh does about it now should not be during televised event.
The only value to come of this predicted debacle would be if the parents make it clear to whoever tunes in that they did everything wrong, and that should other parents find themselves in the position they were in 12 years ago, there are better (and more legal) ways to come through. Their 'fans' willl not accept their culpability unless the parents acknowledge it themselves. If there are any other justifications for their behavior 12 years ago, it will be proof positive of their continued failing as decent parents. This means, too, that they don't hang Josh out to publicly absolve them of their failings as parents.
Narcissist was never violent with the kids, wouldn't dream of laying a finger on them. As far as I know that was always the case. The other parent did give them the occasional hard spanking, though it was for very bad behavior (not that that makes it right, but it's worse to beat kids for no reason).
They were pretty sturdy, strong-minded, kids and I think N was afraid they'd slap right back if N dared strike them. Much like Kate, N was AFRAID of their own kids. They had such sweet angelic faces, it's hard to imagine how anyone could hurt them. They were precious.
Absolutely. In this entire mess, that is one of the things that concerns me the most.
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It is extremely, extremely concerning if he hasn't been fully evaluated by a professional to determine if he is safe around his young children.
In fact, many cases that come in in Los Angeles are the result of a former child molester having their first child. Often there are other things going on that are more minor, but when social workers get involved their backgrounds are looked into and BAM there it is. Kids detained. He is extremely lucky to even still have custody of these kids. They usually detain first and ask questions later when it comes to child molesters.
I don't understand...the dress appears to be a good buy. Why any criticism? She actually wore something that was not slutty. TLC rep probably told her to wear something attractive and not revealing. She still does the slut look, like on her date with Jeff Millionaire. I bet because TLC wants her to look more like a mom and not a hooker, they may be providing suggestions on her style. When TLC paid for her Ann Taylor clothes, she looked great, but once she got the big hooters, she wanted to show those puppies off and that's when she looked like a cheap hooker. Back then, she was full of herself and probably thought she knew what looked good... not!
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One more explanation of why I believe it is right to hold BOOB more acountable than Josh:
Ya;ll aren't looking at his guilt from the quiverfull/ husband is the authority head perspective.
What Josh did was while he was under BOOB's authority, hence BOOB, according to their theological theory, BOOB is accountable, not Josh.
BOOB failed his son, AND his daughters. The judgement falls on BOOB.
(I am in no way excusing what Josh did, nor his responsibility in his behavior-but again, their religious beliefs hold BOOB accountable because of his authority in the household).
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I am not applying their religious beliefs since I don't subscribe to them. According to my moral code, Josh is responsible for his actions. He, and he alone, molested those children. The parents are responsible for the way in which they handled the situation and for leaving their young daughters at high risk for further abuse by not getting him evaluated and counseled by a licensed professional, but unless you have proof that JimBob forced Josh to fondle his sisters, he is not responsible for the acts themselves. I don't care what the Quiverfull doctrine states.
Not to forget that there will be a stream of nieces close by over the next several years. Will Mrs. Josh Dugger babysit them at her house? I tend to think she will, since they're moving back to Arkansas and will be right back in the thick of things. If I had a daughter I'd be setting up nanny cams in every room of the house even if the molester had gone to therapy.
but unless you have proof that JimBob forced Josh to fondle his sisters, he is not responsible for the acts themselves
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Did anyone say that he was?
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but unless you have proof that JimBob forced Josh to fondle his sisters, he is not responsible for the acts themselves
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Um, yes, the person to whom I responded stated explicitly that JimBob is accountable, not Josh.
I am not applying their religious beliefs since I don't subscribe to them. According to my moral code, Josh is responsible for his actions. He, and he alone, molested those children. The parents are responsible for the way in which they handled the situation and for leaving their young daughters at high risk for further abuse by not getting him evaluated and counseled by a licensed professional, but unless you have proof that JimBob forced Josh to fondle his sisters, he is not responsible for the acts themselves. I don't care what the Quiverfull doctrine states.
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Well, Josh is responsible, but both his parents are also responsible if they kept the children so isolated and suppressed that they did not feel free and comfortable to explore their sexuality in a comfortable and safe manner that did not hurt others. They are also responsible for having so many children that they could not all possibly be properly supervised. They are also responsible if, due to the high number of children, they did not notice and observe warning signs from Josh. It would be unusual for this to be the first behavior without any warning signs prior. Chances are, there were warning signs that they missed or willfully ignored. They need to take responsibility for that.
That said, I don't know for sure whether they failed in that respect, I don't have proof, but I do think most likely they did fail in this manner. Otherwise I completely agree with you.
Did anyone say that he was?
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Um, yes, the person to whom I responded stated explicitly that JimBob is accountable, not Josh.
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Unless I am misunderstanding Angie's post, she was commenting from the perspective of the Quiverfull cult.
I was the one that said JimBob is responsible, because this family follows the quiverful/gotthard practices.
Its not fair to hold an adult Josh accountable for how his dad decided to deal with the situation.
Its impossible for anyone to challenge the authority figure in the family. Impossible.
I am NOT excusing what Josh did-- but what was he supposed to do, defy his father's decisions?
I do think child services needs to do a complete study of his household to determine if his children are safe, at the very least.
Yall need to read about quiverful/gotthard families to understand how every decision is the father's. It's ridiculous.
@Kateplusmy8: @Mydmaxx YES! It’s a @MichaelKors dress and I LOVE tons of his stuff (including my fave jeans) and NO I’m not paid or comped to say this 😉
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Maybe not yet but she wants to be - why else include @michaelkors in the tweet. She's so transparent with her grifting.
@Kateplusmy8: @Mydmaxx YES! It’s a @MichaelKors dress and I LOVE tons of his stuff (including my fave jeans) and NO I’m not paid or comped to say this ��
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Says the lying liar who lies.
@Kateplusmy8: @Mydmaxx YES! It’s a @MichaelKors dress and I LOVE tons of his stuff (including my fave jeans) and NO I’m not paid or comped to say this ��
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Maybe not yet but she wants to be - why else include @michaelkors in the tweet. She's so transparent with her grifting.
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But if you're piecin' and patchin' and a struggling single mom with unpaid bill in your purse how can you afford Michael Kors? Could someone explain that? Was her purse that contained the bills a Kors? LoL!
So TFW bought herself a ring because she "had to have something about that # to make me smile:)" When I think of how ridiculously
blessed this woman has been, that statement makes me sick.
She's a healthy 40-year-old who has 8 healthy kids and lives in
a beautiful home and has been on more trips -- on someone
else's dime -- in the past decade than most of us will ever be
in a lifetime. She has skated by with minimal talent and even
less grace, and continues to work fairly steadily. And she
needed a cheering up ring? Oh, poor, poor Schmoopy.
Didja need that cheering up before Cancun or after?
And can she possibly fathom how poorly that kind of comment
might land for some of her fans who are years or even
decades past 40? She's so tone deaf it hurts.
A slight change of subject here -- today the San Diego Rock 'n Roll Marathon was run. No sign of Kate here (she seems to have done 1 and gone). The oldest woman to complete the run ran it in a little over 7 hours. She is 92. Just a TBS(unday) memory.
I am NOT excusing what Josh did-- but what was he supposed to do, defy his father's decisions?
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I tend to agree a 14 year old child can't be expected to defy his father when his father is telling him how a situation should be handled.
That said, once Josh became an adult and wanted to have children of his own, it was his obligation to seek out professional therapists and undergo a full assessment of his psychological health. At a certain point the responsibility shifted to him.
I agree that a 14 yo can't defy his father in how a situation is handled. Especially in that family.
That being said, as an adult Josh is totally over the line when he labels whole groups of people as child molestors when 1) there is NO factual basis to do so and 2) he himself is a child molestor.
How arrogant to call others child molestors because you don't like their lifestyle when you yourself really are one. And your little sisters no less.
Using his theory, would it now be fair to say that all conservative Christians are child molestors? Many don't agree with their lifestyle....
Hypocrite to the nth degree.
o less.
Using his theory, would it now be fair to say that all conservative Christians are child molestors? Many don't agree with their lifestyle....
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I think the only good that can come of this is that some of these fundamentalist fringe types do some real soul searching. If even just one comes to realize that perhaps it's not for them to condemn those who are different from them, then something good has come of it.
They will NEVER soul search about these things. They truly believe that they are on the inside track as far as pleasing God. They believe they have prayed and got their answer straight from God's lips via the male authority's lips. Their mission is to make new members and to never back down, not one inch. They believe God's kingdom relies on their vigilance toward all things Gothard has taught. If they get lax, they will defraud God, I guess.
They have no thought of soul searching to consider who they hurt on their march to the sea.
Grifting for Michael Kors with that tweet. You are right...why include them except to plant the idea.
LOL. Not everyone was pleased about TLC Block Party.
https://www.facebook.com/philadelphiamagazine/posts/10152835322693994?comment_id=10152835327253994&offset=0&total_comments=26&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D
"Sure, Philly won a block party with Kate Gosselin, The Duggars, and the rest of the TLC circus, but we kind of want to return the prize."
On Monday, I reported that one lucky TLC viewer won a national contest to bring a huge block party to Philadelphia featuring the celebrities (cough, cough) of the popular cable network. Everyone from the Duggars to the stars of Say Yes To The Dress to the Cake Boss himself are slated to attend the festivities at Penn’s Landing.
It didn’t take long before people’s reaction to the announcement started to flood social media. Of note, I couldn’t help but laugh—and agree—with many of the comments that started to pour on to Philadelphia magazine’s Facebook page when we posted the article. Here, in no particular order, are some of my favorite replies:
“Can we create a GoFund me account to pay for them to go to another city?
"They Duggars have enough ppl to have their own block party. Why would anyone else want to go?"
"I am more afraid of the attendees. Who would actually go to something like this?"
"This is the most horrid thing I've heard in Philly's history. Is this real?"
"So basically, the caricatures of Hell will all be in one little spot."
My colleague Monica Weymouth coined a piece the following day, aptly titled "Philly's 5 Worst Reality TV Moments," where she strongly suggested that the upcoming May TLC "thing" may very well take the top rating as one of the Worst. Things. Ever.
But why do we hate these TLC clowns? Why do we all have a visceral reaction when the name "Duggar" is mentioned, or why does my skin crawl when I tune in to an episode of Little People, Big World? I don't think we have to look too far for the answer: These TV personalities are terrible, horrible people. End of story.
I never liked reality TV to begin with. (You couldn't get me to watch an episode of Survivor or Real World if my life depended on it.) When the likes of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo and ten thousand variations of "Here's a Family of Little People: Watch Them Do Daily Tasks" took to the airwaves, I cut my cable—and quick. I couldn't stomach how formulaic, fake, and pathetic these programs were, and I couldn't watch grown adults using their children as a means to make a quick buck.
Sure, we can easily see this eerie voyeurism with Honey Boo Boo or Toddlers and Tiaras, but the moment that really solidified the impact these shows have on their young victims was the now notorious Today interview with Kate Gosselin's older daughters. Sure, they could have been giving their mom an embarrassing smack down on live TV, but there's more than that here: Here are two young women who are pretty clearly depressed and sick and tired of being in the spotlight for the sake of their mother's vanity.
When there's not much humanity behind a person, it's hard to really "like" them: Add in the fact that reality TV is anything but reality, and we start to despise what we see when we turn on TLC or the mountain of other networks that have turned into even cheaper versions of The Learning Channel (the irony of even associating "learning" with watching a bunch of women fight over a bridal gown is beyond me). But then again, don't humans love a train wreck? Traffic gets backed up on Route 76, because we all stop and look at car crashes on the other side of the highway, right? TLC is pretty much a car crash. We love to hate it.
As one of my friends said to me after she found out about the Philly block party, "I would give my first born child if I could actually meet some of them!" My response: "Let's just steal one of the Duggar's nineteen kids: They wouldn't even realize they were missing."
Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/05/01/why-everyone-hates-kate-gosselin-the-duggars-and-all-those-other-tlc-stars/#CrHoid5FsXpE5JW8.99
http://ilovebricks.blogspot.com/2015/04/barely-human-tlc.html
For the past year, Philadelphia, a city once synonymous with sports fans chucking snowballs at Santa and deliberately barfing on the children of our Men in Blue, has become an inexplicable comeback story. It takes a lot to bring a city down. And if that city has stared the devil in the face and said, "bring it on, Butt Plug!", it's damn near impossible.
But there is one way. And just when we were doing so well, we found it. How? Well, you take one of the region's greatest Cinderella Stories, Penn's Landing, and invite four of five of the world's worst people to take a proverbial shit all over it.
An un-ironic Dee Reynolds with veneers?
Yep, this May 30th, Kate Gosselin, Buddy Valastro, and the Duggar family will be the source material for a block party at the Great Plaza. Apparently the reanimated corpse of Strom Thurman was unavailable.
If you don't know who they are, well, count yourself amongst the few who can still claim to be human. Unfortunately, I know better (or worse). They're reality "celebrities" from TLC's infamous sideshows: people with litters of kids and an irate New Yorker so annoying he couldn't hold a job in the same building as Rachel Ray.
TLC, the ironic acronym for "The Learning Channel," has been peddling what amounts to Freak Porn since it abandoned educational content in the late 1990s. I'm not saying that prolific mothers, dwarves, or the obese should be objectified, but TLC - and apparently the Delaware River Waterfront Corporation - sure as shit seems to be.
If you're one of the soulless fans of Kate Plus Eight or Cake Boss, head down to Penn's Landing for a photograph with some unrealebrities who I'm quite certain can't cast a shadow. If not, get out of town. Philadelphia was doing so well, but in a month I'm pretty sure it will be flushed down Hell's toilet bowl.
http://www.philebrity.com/2015/04/28/fyi-the-tlc-block-party-hits-penns-landing-at-the-end-of-may-like-a-typhoon-of-crocs-and-ignorance/
On May 30th, The Great Plaza at Penn’s Landing will become a makeshift anthropological site representing the wrong side of history when it hosts the TLC Summer Block Party. This exaltation of basic teevee folk will include appearances from Cake Boss star Buddy Valastro, renowned breeders Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, fashion maven/Say Yes to the Dress personality Randy Fenoli, and, of course, Kate Gosselin. Sigh. We aren’t above turning off our minds and plunking down in front of some bad reality television, but not from the likes of these folks. Most importantly, we haven’t forgotten about this bit of fuckery. So yeah TLC, we’re going to take a hard pass on this event and the massively reproducing hate vibes that will be hanging in the air like the stench of burning funnel cake.
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A slight change of subject here -- today the San Diego Rock 'n Roll Marathon was run. No sign of Kate here (she seems to have done 1 and gone). The oldest woman to complete the run ran it in a little over 7 hours. She is 92. Just a TBS(unday) memory.
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I saw that! The photo of her crossing the finish line looked like she had a Flying Monkey and a scooter to help her. Of course, she didn't ;-)
So inspiring.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 112
So TFW bought herself a ring because she "had to have something about that # to make me smile:)" When I think of how ridiculously
blessed this woman has been, that statement makes me sick.
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Kate always has to find an angle to justify her self-pampering.
Look, she makes a lot of money being a D-lister and pimping her kids on TV. She can afford a nice ring, big deal!
Why not say that she treated herself on her birthday? She spends lavishly on herself all the damn time, so what's the big deal about a ring.
It probably costs less than her monthly spas, manis, pedis, tanning and hair. Not to mention her cosmetic upkeep, which is VERY obvious.
She's so strange.
And can she possibly fathom how poorly that kind of comment
might land for some of her fans who are years or even
decades past 40? She's so tone deaf it hurts.
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I have no pity left for any of Kate's fans. If they choose to be delusional and put Kate on some pedestal, then they deserve to be duped and feel like they are less than her.
You can't fix stupid.
I'm guessing at this point, Kate doesn't have friends or family celebrate her birthday with her, so she needs to fill the void somehow.
What does it say about what an empty, bottomless vessel she is if she needs more and more and more?
I mean, Cancun? Hello!
But if you're piecin' and patchin' and a struggling single mom with unpaid bill in your purse how can you afford Michael Kors? Could someone explain that? Was her purse that contained the bills a Kors? LoL!
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Kate was never piecin' and patchin'. She was just using hysteria so that people would feel sorry for her because TLC canceled her show.
Michael Kors can be found discounted at department stores, outlets and T.J. Maxx and the like.
I don't know if Kate paid full price, but it's not what I would consider a ridiculously expensive brand. At least not his ready to wear stuff.
I've scored some great Kors clothing and purses at T.J. Maxx.
Angie said... 108
I was the one that said JimBob is responsible, because this family follows the quiverful/gotthard practices.
Its not fair to hold an adult Josh accountable for how his dad decided to deal with the situation.
Its impossible for anyone to challenge the authority figure in the family. Impossible.
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Jim Bob is a dictator who perverts the bible to wield total control over people.
It's hard for even adult children to break out of their role as child and be their own adult person, and break away from the teachings and control of their parents.
It can be done if the child finds the strength to do it, and isn't held hostage to the fear of being shunned, which I'm sure is what parents like Jim Bob and Michelle lord over their children.
Josh has an opportunity here. I doubt he'll take it, but I hope he does.
He can choose to become enlightened and use his story and notoriety/"fame" to spread tolerance and understanding, not to mention help victims of molestation.
If I had a daughter I'd be setting up nanny cams in every room of the house even if the molester had gone to therapy.
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Yes! Great point.
Given that Josh and Anna are moving back, Josh will be around minors again and I wonder if his sisters' maternal instinct will kick in. I hope they do.
I hope his sisters somehow, some way, get the courage to come forth and tell what happened to them, and vow that it will never, ever happen to their own little girls.
It galls me that the pivotal issue for the Duggars right now is the show. That's BULLSHIT. The pivotal issue is breaking the silence of shame, growing as human beings and standing up for themselves and their own children and becoming advocates for protecting other children in the homes of these repressive, controlling tyrants.
That's the silver lining here, not some reality tv shows that line of pockets of people who don't give a damn about victims and justice.
TLC stinks said... 101
I don't understand...the dress appears to be a good buy. Why any criticism? She actually wore something that was not slutty.
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The dress was a good choice. Very summery and flattering. The girls could have used outfits that had a bit more punch, imo. I'm not criticizing their outfits, and I think they both look great. It's just that for an event where you are posing for tons of photos, I would have chosen outfits with personality and flattering colors, not drab neutrals.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/29/duggar-scandal-parody-funny-or-die_n_7470408.html?ir=Canada+Living
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Not sure if this has been posted.
Warning: parody, may offend some
The number one thing every adult in that family MUST do is to never EVER leave Josh (or any of the other adolescent brothers, in my opinion)
alone with any of the girls, his daughter or ANY female child (maybe male too?)
Period.
To hell with trust, counseling, forgiveness praying. To hell with trying to fix or give him therapy, HE has to obviously be forced into it, not gonna happen. Be vigilant and protect those girls. He is NOT to given any opportunity whatsoever to abuse again.
Talk about a pedos dream! Children at your disposal with a free pass to molest. My God, think about it.
Looks like Jon had kids with him in AC this weekend. Here is interview he did. VIDEO: #JonGosselin #DJ @poolafterdark #AtlanticCity: https://youtu.be/3hMMKMh7VQE
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 73
I think it's fine to refer to a teenager as a young woman but in this case it's not okay because it minimizes and misleads about the true nature of who he molested. And good point about how so many keep leaving out it was his SISTERS.
Because a young woman can mean someone in their teens, 20's and even 30's, it's damn misleading. These were helpless little ones, many of whom didn't even know what sex was. Some were sleeping for God sake!
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/05/28/can-we-talk-about-the-fact-that-one-of-josh-duggars-victims-was-5-years-old-max/
https://youtu.be/3hMMKMh7VQE
This is why I just can't not like Jon ;-) He's so real and laid back. He's a straight shooter and doesn't try to bend everything so that he comes out smelling like a lilly.
The interviewer was throwing out all sorts of questions!
Kids and custody- nope, private. Way to go, Jon.
How are you misunderstood- that I cheated on Kate. Didn't happen. Love how Jon doesn't put onus on Kate, which he certainly could.
Politics- wth, lady-it's a dj'ing gig as a casino!
How did Kate do on CA- wow, Jon was a stand up guy and said he was impressed she went so far. I'd love to see Jon on CA.
Jon said the kids are with him, somewhere near AC, having fun. He kept details very vague- excellent.
Kate's face NEVER lights up like Jon's when he talks about his kids. I'm guessing the boy who wasn't visiting is doing so now, and that's a good thing (right, Kate??).
Thanks for linking the interview.
I hope DJ Jon Gosselin works out for Jon. If he can work hard and build his DJ brand, he could one day own his own company and that could set him up for life.
He's got the personality and hopefully the talent.
I like the dress too...but remember Kate said they 'don't so designers?' And she also treated herself to a ring. I agree you can find great deals at TJ Maxx etc. Burlington Coat Factory always has a lot of Michael Kors. I have a scarf/winter cap set, and a sweater by MK from there.
I wonder if TFW tried to get some of the tups to come to the block
party. They're the reason she has a "brand" to peddle to begin
with. I could see her possibly wanting H & L there, to show the
world that all is well before the custody hearing (H alone would
be too obvious). Then she could have all her favorites flocking
around her all Norman Rockwell-like, while A and the icky boys
spent the weekend with their deadbeat dad. Who, unlike their
mother, has a job.
This interview was the same day as the block party. So that's where the 6 were. HaHa Kate
http://www.people.com/article/dj-jon-gosselin-harrahs-resort-reality-tv-star
I'm guessing the tups weren't at the block party because it was Jon's custodial weekend and he had them with him in Atlantic city?
If this is the case, excellent.
Tucker's Mom said...
I'm not criticizing their outfits, and I think they both look great. It's just that for an event where you are posing for tons of photos, I would have chosen outfits with personality and flattering colors, not drab neutrals.
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What? And take the focus from the real star? I think the choice of neutrals was deliberate. One way or another.
Vanessa said... 138
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I hope so too- and maybe more of them will join Hannah's crusade. Unless TFW got a nanny again somehow...they would need care during Jon's late gigs so maybe she would have a say about that??
It's really great Jon took the tups on an equally if not more fun trip, and the tups all went. The kids need to know that Kate does not has a patent on fun and trips, and they need to know they can have a weekend getaway without having to have the burden of cameras there. It seems to me Kate has tried to brainwash them into believing that there is little fun to be had without TLC in their lives, especially based on Mady's comment last year about staring at the walls.
I was thinking if Kate tried to persuade them to come to the block party but if only some of them wanted to, she couldn't do it unless she took them all. Taking just some of the tups would cause all kinds of questions about why the others didn't go, so she was in a jam with that.
Formerly Duped (#135), good call - yes, TFW did claim they didn't
buy designer stuff.
As many have said, it's not the price of the dress that's the point.
Even if it cost $100 - who cares? She wore it for "work," so I guess
it's a business write-off, and she loves it and will likely wear it again
and again. The thing that continues to frustrate so many of us is
the perpetual hypocrisy and deception. Don't say you don't wear designer clothing -- in an effort to underplay your wealth -- and
then get photographed in designer clothing. Don't tweet that
you're upset you lost your trees in a storm because they gave
you privacy, and then tweet pictures to the world of your minor
children in bedclothes. The list goes on and on.
TFW says what she needs to, when she needs to. That could
fly in the 20th century, but it's 2015, and that nonsense won't fly
anymore. I'm curious how much her electronic behavior might
play into the custody hearing. Plenty of information to be mined
from her tweets.
Kate seems to feel the need to deny the engagement rumor, not only once but twice.
Yesterday she tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 16h16 hours ago
@dowd24 um no. I liked the ring so I put it on myself ... To myself for my bday. Had to have something about that # to make me smile:)
And just now she tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 7m7 minutes ago
Fyi: I’m not engaged-not even dating any1.Loved the ring so I put it on myself 4 my bday-Had 2have something abt that # to make me smile #40
What # is she talking about?
The ring on her left hand is a ring that she has been wearing for ages. I think we first noticed it when they were in Australia or NZ. She even wore it as a wedding ring on CA.
I noticed the ring on her right hand during her couch interviews in the MD special. Is that the mother of pearl ring with 8 stones that she mentioned wanting to get for herself years ago.
The tabs are over the top with this, but it's strange that Kate feels she has to deny it again.
She's talking with a forked tongue again and making no sense.
As many have said, it's not the price of the dress that's the point.
Even if it cost $100 - who cares? She wore it for "work," so I guess
it's a business write-off
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You can't write off clothes for business unless it's a uniform. Which explains why she goes pretty cheaper for clothes, but has no problem springing for a limo or first class flight, which *can* be easily written off.
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It's really great Jon took the tups on an equally if not more fun trip, and the tups all went. The kids need to know that Kate does not has a patent on fun and trips, and they need to know they can have a weekend getaway without having to have the burden of cameras there.
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It sounds like kids got to stay at a nearby beach town and have fun. I hope they walked a boardwalk, at pizza and fries and played games, maybe went on some rides.
Yeah, TLC trips are great, but so is the Jersey shore, and they live so close!!
Mel said....
That being said, as an adult Josh is totally over the line when he labels whole groups of people as child molestors when 1) there is NO factual basis to do so and 2) he himself is a child molestor.
How arrogant to call others child molestors because you don't like their lifestyle when you yourself really are one. And your little sisters no less.
Using his theory, would it now be fair to say that all conservative Christians are child molestors? Many don't agree with their lifestyle....
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While his anti gay stance is hypocritical, I am guessing that his statements about molestation are pure projection of his own inclinations to molest, and therefore that perspective is very real to him (and his nut job parents).. Now that I think about it, that is a pretty big red flag that he has not been "cured", and probably still has urges.
I haven't see anyone comment on this yet:
Gothard = Got Hard
Sorry--had to do it!
I'm sure fans asked where the Tups were. I'd be really curious what Kate said. Was she actually a grown up and said they are enjoying a nice weekend with their Father, thanks for asking?
Or did she just say something vague like they're busy and are at home. I bet the latter.
I've never seen Jon sound so enthusiastic and hopeful about something. He seems to have finally found his niche. I didn't realize he's been doing this since the fall, has it been that long? And I bet Kate is worried about this, because it means he is going on equally fun trips AND can take the kids with him. This bothers her, as evidence by her frantic private tweet she sent out.
If the kids can get to the point where they can realize they can still get a free trip to the beach or some other fun place WITHOUT TLC, Kate has lost her currency. Brilliant move by Jon.
fidosmommy said... 117
They will NEVER soul search about these things.
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I don't think Ma and Pa Duggar will, but some of the other kids can think for themselves and may give this more than a passing thought. Even some of the Duggars own relatives have left the flock, and plenty of people involved in this lifestyle have left, often due to an incident just like this one.
I think it's entirely possible at least some people will rethink things. I'm speaking about not just the entire Duggar clan but anyone trapped in a religion that stifling.
I hope so too- and maybe more of them will join Hannah's crusade. Unless TFW got a nanny again somehow...they would need care during Jon's late gigs so maybe she would have a say about that??
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I would think she wouldn't have any say about who he uses for a babysitter unless that person is not well trained or the children complain. Jon may have used a higher caliber of babysitter (than TFMJG does) during this trip--wouldn't there be reputable nanny agencies in the Atlantic City area? He would only need 1, maybe 2, nannies for the weekend, mainly during the hours he is working. I'm sure he spent the daytime hours with them and it sounds like they might have come in the night before as he mentioned trying the different restaurants and seeing the sights.
The Supreme Court has ruled in favor of the man saying nasty things about his ex wife on Facebook. I mentioned this case a couple months back when they were hearing arguments on it, and said it was going to be one to watch.
This is a big victory for free speech on the internet. Sorry sheeple and BV, but you can say things, even really nasty things, on the internet if you want to. While it may not be morally right, there's nothing illegal about it.
If TLC wants to spin off the married or older Duggars, here's a show I would watch.
They could call it "Breaking Duggar", where the adult go out into the real world and we follow their therapy and have professionals unravel all the abusive, misogynistic things they've been taught. They don't have to go to NYC and get into booze and drugs and promiscuity, they just have to be shown that the world isn't the horrible, evil place their parents told them it was.
These cults survive because their children are insulated and isolated. There's a reason they don't watch t.v. I'll bet they are ruing the day they let some of the kids get iphones.
How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm...
Good for John, he seems happy. Funny that he seems to have borrowed someone else's jacket for the interview.
Being a DJ is a big thing right now. Calvin Harris , Taylor Swifts new boyfriend , is a DJ and he made millions last year. Can you believe he use to stock shelves at a grocery store? If Jon is good and smart he can make a very good living.
Didn't like Kate's dress. Wasn't it orange?? To matchy matchy with her skin!
Kate is such a liar and fact twister. Her camp planted that Radar story. There is no doubt in my mind. And to say she's not dating anyone is a blatant lie too. Maybe the ring on her right hand is new; I could not tell but both rings appeared too big (she's lost so much weight). Anything to get her name out there. Like I said, the heart pendant looks more like something a man would buy for a woman.
I feel that Mady probably wanted to go to the Block Party because she's all about pleasing mom. Cara was probably forced to tag along.
Wonder what their bribe, er reward, was for accompanying mom?
Ex Nurse (#46), so help me, I was about to post the same thing
the other day, and suddenly remembered our sweet Redbird here
on the veranda, and didn't want to offend her! (*waves sheepishly
to Redbird*)
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 147
I'm sure fans asked where the Tups were. I'd be really curious what Kate said. Was she actually a grown up and said they are enjoying a nice weekend with their Father, thanks for asking?
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Oh, please, no...don't! Don't make me laugh so hard. I have a horrendous cold and my sinuses will explode if I guffaw that hard!
I'm not saying that the photos of Jeff and Kate looked cozy, but come one, that was a date!
It's so bizarre. Ex Mrs. Millionaire Droopy Drawers will actually comment on her ex dating Kate, saying he deserves happiness, but Kate denies she's dating him?
Gurrrrlfriends, y'all gotta talk!
TLC Stinks (#154), oh, I most certainly agree that the Radar story
came from TFW's camp. Those not-a-designer designer dresses
don't pay for themselves!
Again and again she ignores things she's asked about, but, poof,
this rumor she adressess in detail? Twice? Oh, and she phrased
it hoping someone would respond by saying how great she looks
for 40. Did anyone take the bait?
Philly Magazine interview with Kate at the block party:
http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/
Haven't finished reading the whole thing, but this one answer stood out for me:
You live in Pennsylvania. Do you come to Philadelphia often?
"Every once in a while, I’m not here often. I usually stay within a 5-mile radius of my house, but occasionally I do different things down here. Just to clear up the rumor, everyone says I am from Philadelphia, but I’m not. I live in Hershey, PA. Philly is the next big city, so everyone just says that."
So now she's saying she lives in Hershey? WTF? I guess she thinks Hershey is more glamorous than Wernersville.
If Jon is good and smart he can make a very good living.
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DJ'ing actually is a good way to capitalize on the status of being a former reality tv "star".
I hope Jon keeps his nose clean, and uses all of his business savvy to work hard and succeed.
P.J. said... 151
If TLC wants to spin off the married or older Duggars, here's a show I would watch.
They could call it "Breaking Duggar", where the adult go out into the real world and we follow their therapy and have professionals unravel all the abusive, misogynistic things they've been taught. They don't have to go to NYC and get into booze and drugs and promiscuity, they just have to be shown that the world isn't the horrible, evil place their parents told them it was.
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Hmm...might watch that, too. All kidding aside, this family is at a crossroads. The next generation has an opportunity here to break the cycle of abuse. They have a chance to change the lives of their own children so that no one will suppress them and their freedoms.
I am sure that there are countless people and organizations that would be willing to help the Duggar kids heal, grow and even help others.
It's unfathomable to me that not one of these victims will speak out for themselves. What of the non-family female?
Where the hell are her parents?!
PJ, Yes! I would watch "Breaking Duggar"!
just watch the adult children get a chance to truly love on their own as adults.
Susan1956 said... 149
I hope so too- and maybe more of them will join Hannah's crusade. Unless TFW got a nanny again somehow...they would need care during Jon's late gigs so maybe she would have a say about that??
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I would think she wouldn't have any say about who he uses for a babysitter unless that person is not well trained or the children complain. Jon may have used a higher caliber of babysitter (than TFMJG does) during this trip--wouldn't there be reputable nanny agencies in the Atlantic City area? He would only need 1, maybe 2, nannies for the weekend, mainly during the hours he is working.
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Jon also has family and friends to help.
If the kids can get to the point where they can realize they can still get a free trip to the beach or some other fun place WITHOUT TLC, Kate has lost her currency. Brilliant move by Jon.
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It has to be so liberating for those kids to know that they don't have to play to any cameras or do retakes of incidental fun moments they experience when they're with their dad.
I'm sure Kate is livid that Jon is finding his way without being bound to a lousy contract with those assholes at TLC or dependent upon the kids to make a living. Turns out he's got a talent and she's still got nuthin'.
Ahhh... Karma. Priceless.
According to Lauren, when and if Kate ever gets engaged she will let everyone know.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 · 15h15 hours ago
FYI: If @Kateplusmy8 was engaged, she'd tell us. Haters trying to stir pot. They need to move on. Can't stand that Kate and kids r happy
http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/
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Jeebus, this woman hasn't said anything new in YEARS. It's just the same recycled pablum over and over again.
Actually, I should apologize to pablum.
Kate's incoherent, stream of consciousness-yammering simply isn't meaningful. There are a lot of words, but she talks so circuitously and is incapable of providing a cogent answer to anything.
Well, no, let me clarify that I did find out something new. You can now meet Kate Gosselin if you are within 5 miles of her home, not just in her kitchen or the grocery store.
And, more filming for the summer.
In lieu of actually kid stuff like camps and such.
Sooooo, another summer of filming, or their pool.
I'll be following Jon's hearing re: Hannah closely. That could change things up a bit.
Kate is a twit said... 160
Philly Magazine interview with Kate at the block party:
http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/
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UGGGHHH
Her boobs are huuuuuuuugggggggeeeeeeee!
There's this line:
So what are your plans for the summer? Are you all going on any trips?
I know that we’ll be filming, but other than that ... as many days as we can do nothing, the better!
Can I just say I recently saw a reality show film crew filiming? It was done in short short segments and the people were told what to say and they had to do several takes each time. I can't imagine spending my childhood summer doing that
Formerly Duped said... 140
Vanessa said... 138
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I hope so too- and maybe more of them will join Hannah's crusade.
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Kate should be worried. Her specials at TLC might just end up being "Kate Plus Mady".
terri said... 132
Looks like Jon had kids with him in AC this weekend. Here is interview he did. VIDEO: #JonGosselin #DJ @poolafterdark #AtlanticCity: https://youtu.be/3hMMKMh7VQE
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Anyone else have trouble listening to that? The sound went wonky when the interview started. I could barely hear what they were saying.
Why is Kate still hammering on about the paps and taking non-consenting pics of the kids, vs. being filmed and doing photo shoots?
First of all, I'd be publicly apologizing to my kids if I caused them to be chum for scumbag paps. I'd feel so much guilt about foisting that on their unconsenting souls.
Second, it's the the paps fault. They are well within their legal rights to photograph them in public, as am I, too.
There is one thing and one thing only that needs to happens such that the kids will continue to dislike (per Kate) being pap fodder, and being uncertain of whether someone wants to befriend them for them, or befriend them because they're on tv.
That one thing is giving them back their privacy.
Kate can point her tips at paps and users all she wants, but she is the sole reason this has and is happening to her children.
(Leslie)
I feel like I am in the minority but I don't Kate is dating Jeff. I think they are both fame whores and knew or even set-up the photos of themselves. They did this for the publicity of course. I can't wait to hear about their business project. If it is a foundation I call bullshit without even knowing what it is about. It will flop after a year. I think she is stupid to start any business or foundation with this creep. His track record does not sound solid by any means. I want to know why he changed his name. Kate loves the speculation about her dating.
I bet the kids have 100 times more fun with their dad than with
TFW. She is a human wet blanket, snuffing each and every
ember of joy out of any occasion. The heifer even managed to
be miserable at Disney World.
I had no idea Cancun was within 5 miles of Hershey, PA. I may
have to plan a visit there myself.
So, other than securing filming, Kate's plans are literally nothing.
I think making such a big deal about sleeping in all the time is a horrible example for kids.
As an adult, I get up about the same time each day. Sleeping in an extra 3 hours over and over again would get so old and boring!
She's raising slugs!
lol AuntieAnn!
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Kate sounds so lazy saying summer is great because they can do nothing but sleep in and lounge by the POOL...oh yes, and film.
"... I didn’t ever seek this out. I didn’t say like “Hey, I wanna grow up and have everybody know my name,”..."
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Says the lying liar who lies.
What I would love to read is what each kid says they want to do this summer!
Kate is disgusting. Filming, even if it involves travel, is work. She's once again, carved out no time for them to be individuals and pursue their own joy.
That was probably one of her worst interviews. She sounds like an awful fame whore momager.
I'm hoping any new footage/filming this summer ends up on the cutting room floor along side twist of Kate! Now that would be a perfect end to the summer!
I did not realize Cancun was in PA! LOL. She's such a liar.
I'm sure Kate planted that story about being engaged. Like I said, she's been wearing that ring since NZ. And now all of a sudden it's noticed because it's on her left hand?
What better way to disprove that stories about her are fake, so that if a story does come out about the result of the custody hearing, she can say "it's lies, all lies".
Just another preemptive strike on Kate's part.
I could not even get through that interview. The reporter must have recorded it. Filming this summer...poor kids. Gawd, did you see how she posed for those photos? How her boobs are so big there were big shadows under them? LOL.
Kate is a twit said... 166
According to Lauren, when and if Kate ever gets engaged she will let everyone know.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 · 15h15 hours ago
FYI: If @Kateplusmy8 was engaged, she'd tell us. Haters trying to stir pot. They need to move on. Can't stand that Kate and kids r happy
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But ... but Lauren, Kate isn't happy. She's always bitching and moaning about how hard she has it. She's forever complaining about all the work she has to do and how exhausted she is. And I'm sorry to say her kids look miserable.
Happy? I think not.
In my previous comment, it should read "What better way to PROVE that stories about her are fake".
Make up an obvious false story, get the rags to run with it, and then publicly deny it, not just once, but twice with tweets that made absolutely no sense. Then when they do print a true story, she can say "see they're lying again--no truth to that story either".
I have not posted about the Duggar issue because I haven't seen the show and don't know much about their beliefs other than the little I have read since these terrible incidents came to light. But I have a question. How is everyone so certain that the parents never got any counseling or evaluation for Josh or the victims? I know the 2006 report talked about sending Josh away for a time, but have the parents or anyone else with actual knowledge stated that Josh or the victims never got further evaluation or therapy? I know they said they prayed, sought forgiveness, etc. But have they said that is all they did? That is the assumption everyone seems to be making and I just wonder what that is based on. I'm not looking to pick a fight -- just asking.
Anonymous said... 172
(Leslie)
I feel like I am in the minority but I don't Kate is dating Jeff. I think they are both fame whores and knew or even set-up the photos of themselves. They did this for the publicity of course. I can't wait to hear about their business project. If it is a foundation I call bullshit without even knowing what it is about. It will flop after a year. I think she is stupid to start any business or foundation with this creep. His track record does not sound solid by any means. I want to know why he changed his name. Kate loves the speculation about her dating.
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Could explain why Kate looked like a wet blanket with Jeff. I've seen pics of her and Steve where she is very much connected to him and looking at him lovingly.
Anyone can start a foundation. Good luck with that if Jeff expects Kate to run it or do any modicum of real work. Not happening, and charities are a lot of work.
I'd like to know why Jeff changed his name and why the media keeps saying he's 51.
Tucker's Mom said... 164
Jon also has family and friends to help.
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Thanks Tucker's Mom. I tend to forget about the kids' extended family members since TFMJG continues to insist on raising them in semi-isolation behind the gates of the konpound.
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Re: filming. I posted last summer about watching a TV travel show film at our local Big Name water park and how close the cameras were to the faces of the teenagers being filmed. Who wants to spend their summer with a camera pointed up their nose? Oh, wait . . . .
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Re: the interviews both Jon and TFMJG gave over the weekend. Jon won hands down. Even though his took place in Atlantic City, it was clear the kids were nowhere near or involved in his work unlike TFMJG who needs the kids in order to 'work' and has nothing planned for them besides filming and sleeping in late. If I was TFMJG's attorney, I'd tell her to shut up or get them in some activities stat. Because I think these interviews WILL end up in court.
I'm starting to feel hopeful about this custody hearing.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Have U not leanred by now....you are REQUIRED 2report every move you make 2the tabloids! Crazy indeed. Buy a ring...#Engaged!
This is funny coming from someone who seems to feel that Kate should tell her everything that is going on in Kate's and the kids' lives.
How ironic that the first photo of a famous Transgender person, Caitlin Jenner (formerly known as Bruce) will bump the Duggar scandal off the front page.....
TLC stinks said... 179
I did not realize Cancun was in PA! LOL. She's such a liar.
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Oh, ya! So many things are locate din PA!
Cancun, Maine, NYC, Vegas, just to name a few.
Either that, or Kate has a portkey in her kitchen...
Let's see how much minimization the Duggar parents throw out on their Wed interview.....
It was 12 years ago, no biggie, let's move on - this isn't something that time erases. It's not something that you just get over with time.
He was a young teen - he was 15 - old enough to know better, especially since he'd been caught and punished the year before
It was young women - uh no....it was your little sisters. Who were at the most: 12, 11,10, 6
He was just 'playing doctor' - uh...he'd been changing diapers, shouldn't have been any questions there. And, 15 is a little old to be playing doctor.
The girls were enticing him somehow - uh, huh. A 5 or 6 year old.
It was a teenage mistake - no. A teenage mistake is all kinds of things..coming home 20 minutes after curfew, driving drunk, cheating on a test, stealing.
It is NOT sexual molestation of your little sisters.
He got treatment - no, he didn't. He went to help your friend remodel a basement or something.
He met with law enforcement - uh huh. A guy who had sexual issues himself. *There's* a great resource.
Also a guy they were counting on *not* to report it the way he should have. And just how did they know that? Hmmmm??
He met with the elders of the church - who also had sexual issues, to the point of having to step down from positions. Yeah, they were great resources, too.
The girls were sleeping - implying they didn't know it was happening.
They probably were NOT sleeping, but were laying there frozen, waiting for it to stop.
They didn't even have enough knowledge at that age to hope that it didn't go any further. At least, I hope they didn't.
TLC stinks said... 181
I could not even get through that interview. The reporter must have recorded it.
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Kate is unable to focus tightly and answer a question. She's always in her own head, following her own stream of thoughts, and appears completely, astronomically unaware of whether or not her response actually makes any sense whatsoever.
She's following it in her head, but everyone else is like, wtf??
She needs to start by asking herself and the interviewer if she's answered their question.
Eh, who am I kidding.
imnotobsessed.com has a story about Kate's "engagement" with pictures that a credited to FameFlynet, Inc. So I guess there were paps there taking pictures or someone sold the pictures to FameFlynet.
This is the best one of the bunch!! Kate should learn to stop making faces when people are taking pictures.
http://www.imnotobsessed.com/2015/06/01/is-kate-gosselin-engaged/tlc-block-party-in-philadelphia-3/
I feel like TLC gave us a cold dose of "reality" with the whole Duggars saga. The public finds out that TLC's favorite family has a molester within, the media is hard core on the story, fans and non-fans are outraged, advertisers are fleeing the show and what does TLC do ?? They throw a party and celebrate the abusive mother of 8. What???
They should of pulled the plug on the Duggars. Even if they do it today or tomorrow it's to little to late. They should have done it right away.
BTW, if TLC can't or won't get rid of the Duggars what does that tell us about Kate the abuser of babies and puppies! The only way they get rid of programs is low ratings. Plain and simple. I actually feel bad for all the people who used to write in to TLC all through the years to complain about Kate. TLC's response was delete, delete,delete, delete etc.
Tucker's Mom I always agree with you but on Kate's date it's no,no and no!
Kate+Fake is not a date!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1m1 minute ago
Very nice, insightful interview Kate! You described a life #HardToImagine! LOL http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/ … @Kateplusmy8
Hey Milo--If it's so "insightful", why don't you ask Kate when it was that she moved from Wernersville to Hershey?
As an adult, I get up about the same time each day. Sleeping in an extra 3 hours over and over again would get so old and boring!
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So do I. She talks about sleeping in A LOT. It's setting them up for very poor sleeping habits, productivity habits, and it's indicative of not getting enough rest. She is a 40 year old woman, if her biological clock is working right, her body probably isn't going to let her sleep in that much. That's what a 14 year old's body is wired to do, not 40. It also sets you off on a terrible start to the weekend, wasting the whole morning not getting anything done because you're snoring away. I've never heard of a parent telling kids TO sleep in, they're always telling them don't waste away your morning, or go to bed earlier if you want to sleep all morning. She's something else.
What's more, if the kids really are in activities, it's pretty rare someone isn't going to have something going on in the morning. With the amount of sleeping in they do, I'm skeptical they are involved in these activities, or if they are they're getting up on their own and getting a ride with some other parent who isn't a lazy sloth.
Virtually any doctor will tell you it's best to try to wake up and go to bed at about the same time every night. She should mention this to her doctor, it's that strange.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 141
". . . It seems to me Kate has tried to brainwash them into believing that there is little fun to be had without TLC in their lives, especially based on Mady's comment last year about staring at the walls."
I don't know if you recall the "last episode" in 2011 (the one where Kate threw herself a pity party and Steve was encouraged to dump all over Jon on camera), but this line from Mady is pretty much verbatim what she said in that exit-interview montage. Unless TLC scripted that line for her, it's what Kate has been drumming into their heads practically since the show started. Disgusting doesn't seem adequate to describe what she's done to these little hearts and minds.
Because I think these interviews WILL end up in court.
I'm starting to feel hopeful about this custody hearing.
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It should end up in court. Don't know if it's germane to the judge, but to me, it speaks volumes about Kate and the fact that she looks at summer and really, any free custody time as time she can film the shit out of them and make money.
From that article that is dated today at Philly magazine.
"And the other thing is, my kids are very perceptive. They know if people are sneaking photos of them. They have radar like you wouldn’t believe. They are right 100 percent of the time. I’m like, but you’re 7!
http://www.phillymag.com/ticket/2015/06/01/kate-gosselin-interview-philadelphia/#BaXFz9t3EJtPGzV8.99
What is she trying to pull now? They're 7?
jbranck1980 said... 188
How ironic that the first photo of a famous Transgender person, Caitlin Jenner (formerly known as Bruce) will bump the Duggar scandal off the front page.....
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Caitlyn isn't going to bump the Duggars of the news. She has her big debut coming, but the Duggar's scandal isn't going anywhere, because it's not superfluous gossip.
It's real. Crimes of sexual molestation of children were committed and covered up. Victims have not gotten justice. The perp is walking around making babies like they're going out of style.
So I was curious if I could find an email for the Philly Mag author who interviewed Kate. I wanted to ask if the questions were hers or supplied by TLC or if hers, pre-approved. Samantha Giusti is the Executive Director of the nonprofit Delaware Valley Legacy Fund which promotes the advancement of gay, lesbian, bisexual, community. She is gay and has a female partner. Anyway, I guess she also gets paid assignments from the magazine in addition to her nonprofit stuff. Kind of ironic about her interviewing Kate? Anywho, I may still contact her although I rather go through the magazine if I can find an email. My only question, again, is was she limited on what she could ask Kate. I say she was. She brought up the restaurant but not Jeff Millionaire.
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