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I don't think Alexis had any friend at the sleep over. There were four girls, but I think two of them belonged to that heavy set dark haired woman, and were not friends. At breakfast, Hannah and Leah rushed to grab a seat, each with a friend. Alexis was left out..she moved down to where her mother was at, and those two smaller girls were sitting with Kate,and didn't really acknowledge Alexis in any way, or move over so she could sit with them..so I really doubt either girl was a friend of hers.
Formerly Duped said... 198 Also Kate was pointing out to disinterested tups they 'we" are in Wikipedia and "we" are on the cover of Korean-Am magazine etc...
With the way the girl tups are acting no wonder Mady's nose is out of joint. They are now louder and more sarcastic and argumentative than she is. She seemed to be seething with jealousy while Cara was like, whatever you say...I wonder why the twins had their makeup and hair done in this special and not the others? The 'little' girls will soon be into all that.They were arguing on the couch who was prettiest. ****** Please tell me they were on the cover of a Korean magazine with their father! Cara definitely got her dad's laid back genes. The tup girls already get their hair did for their interviews. No way they do finger curls themselves, in fact, do they even have a damn dresser in their room?
Poor Colin. How is it that we've only seen him being passive, quiet, polite, obedient and she says HE has trouble controlling impulses etc.? 888@@@ He looked totally zoned out on the couch with his brothers even yawning at one point. Don't jump all over me but I'm thinking medication.
As for the child count Kate said 16 kids. That's one friend each for the tups, C&M's friend that seems to go everywhere with them and Lori's little girl (who didn't seem to be included in anything). So there's your 16. I think where Kate screwed up on the beds was that she failed to take into account the bed for the chaperones. If they were two bedroom suites one bedroom was designated for the adult. Just because the room says "sleeps up to 6 or 8" doesn't mean that there are that many beds.
REWRITING HISTORY! yeah, what a mind f$#$% It's going to be the way she says it was, there will be no arguing with her, even with footage to prove her wrong. You will never win with a narc, never. I wish he had said, "I also remember the girls getting to eat their cupcakes. What's up with that, you bitch?" ****** Total gaslighting. Oh, it wasn't *that* bad! The girls get away with murder in that house. I still can't get over how Kate totally ignores their physical aggression.
It was the Can Do house manual episode. The kids were told not to touch some hot water hoses (pressure washer?). The kids were tooling around in their cars, and C wanted to go over the hoses--the other kids were all driving back and forth over them. C was looking all over for TFW, with this worried look on his little face. That look just broke my heart. No little boy should live in that kind of fear, which, as we know, is completely appropriate to the situation.
******* I remember that well. He's such a sweet boy. To me, just from watching here and there, he seems to have actually come a long way since the school incident. I hope that his new school restores his spirit, and that Jon gets more time with him. He desperately needs that.
Excellent post. There is a match out there for Collin, a place and or person that can help him. The trick sometimes is finding it. If a good school/therapist/mentor doesn't fall in her lap, I don't think she'll put out the extra effort to find what's best for him that it often takes for the parent of a special needs child. She produced 8 kids but the eons of bed rest and pounds of bacon couldn't bring out any maternal instincts. She just doesn't have an abundant supply.
Her rigidity, the "and that's never going to change" stubbornness is the worst attitude to have. Kate is completely inflexible and she brags about it. Her rules will never change, her parenting style will never change (her freaking French manicure will never chage!). That certainly will do no good for Collin. She expects HIM to adapt. She is incapable of understanding that she may have to do some adapting as well. She may have to be educated about his behaviors. Kate be educated? Collin's future teachers/therapists better know how to help HER!!
IMO that chaotic household is the worst environment for Collin. I'm very sad for him.
I don't think that everything can be laid at the feet of TFW. Learning differences can happen in the best of families, as do behavioral problems. But, she certainly created a culture of fear and shame, that is so damaging to his self-esteem. And her Alcatrazish theory of child-rearing is a nightmare for a sensitive boy, who, clearly lives in fear of his mother, while desperately needing her love and approval. ******* Agree. It's no one's fault when a child has special needs and it happens all the time. What can be controlled is the reaction to it, and I have a sense Kate is capitulating to get Colin into a different school because she has to. I bet Colin should have been redirected to another school and not have been forced to stick with the 6-pack. But, Kate's not proactive. She won't do or teach before the time is needed and she's got no other choice. Remember when they all got another pair of velcro school shoes because Kate couldn't be bothered teaching them to tie their own darn shoes? I had to pick my mouth up off the floor when I saw that. Well, that and Kate's skanky outfit she saw fit to don for back to schools shopping.
Sue, I think Alexis introduced 'her' friend but she did seem on her own at breakfast. Maybe her friend had to leave early as Kate said some kids did.
I also thought meds a while ago when Collin changed from being a boisterous sturdy child to a very thin quiet child.But that also come from constant beating down, figuratively and literally.
Tucker, Kate flashed a photo of just the kids if I saw that right, but I don't know what it's from- I see there is a KoreAm magazine; as usual Kate got the name wrong I guess.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 2 Virginia Pen Mom (#197), Gladys thinks as long as she puts an "LOL" after her passive/aggressive comments, no one will see through her. But we can. And she does NOT want TFW to have a boyfriend. When the Jeff Millionaire buzz began, she seemed upset, and tweeted again and again that we don't know if it's true or not. **** Gladys reminds me of the baby bird I'm watching at the window feeder. It's chirping like crazy with its "bird lips" so that Daddy gives him food. Kate! Kate! Don't forget about me! I need attention!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 2 Virginia Pen Mom (#197), Gladys thinks as long as she puts an "LOL" after her passive/aggressive comments, no one will see through her. But we can. And she does NOT want TFW to have a boyfriend. When the Jeff Millionaire buzz began, she seemed upset, and tweeted again and again that we don't know if it's true or not. And all the "grow-a-boyfriend" jokes that fell flat, but she kept 'em coming. She thinks as long as TFW is alone, she can be there for her as a support system, and be wanted and needed. (sings "Friends" theme) "I'll be there for you, when the rain starts to pour!" Except that song ends with, "'Cause you're there for me, too!" And that is not the case with TFW. It is not a reciprocal friendship. It is a one-sided obsession
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Flimsy, you are exactly right! I think Gladys WANTS us to believe she wants Kate to find a "lights out man" but in actuality, she does not.
(What the heck was "grow a boyfriend," anyway? I never figured that out.)
What would happen if Kate deleted her Twitter? Gladys's withdrawals would not be pretty. She'd probably hang around on Twitter, defending TFW to the air. And weeping.
I think it's great that so many of Gladys's deleted tweets are preserved here. And thank you, Kate is a Twit, for documenting the hypocrisy!
Would someone PLEASE get out a violin and play some background music for poor old Milo the Martyr. Because her queen isn't getting it! Milo needs to be recognized NOW.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 13h13 hours ago Sure not getting any love here tonight. Haters abound. My last thought courtesy Dr. Steve.. pic.twitter.com/ZyExDamge4 @TLC @Kateplusmy8
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 12h12 hours ago @MiloandJack @TLC @Kateplusmy8 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘👏👏👏👍👍👍
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Thank you for your kindness....not too many folks care much anymore. Some days I feel like the #LastGirlStanding... 8:29 AM - 2 Jul 2015
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 13h13 hours ago Sure not getting any love here tonight. Haters abound. My last thought courtesy Dr. Steve.. @TLC @Kateplusmy8
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The proverbial chicken before the egg. Are Colin's issues a product of his environment or is it genetics? Does he have these issues as a result of the abuse? As a toddler, I certainly didn't see anything amiss, but then I don't have any qualifications do I? But I did see him being treated harshly and know he was abused violently for normal childhood behavior. What I'm trying to say is SHE the cause of his learning social disabilities?
Formerly Duped said... 12 Oh wait- it's the cover of 2008 of the whole family, both parents. Why would Kate show it now?? It;s says Full House on the cover. KoreAm magazine July 2, 2015 at 8:21 AM ***** I wonder if she was wearing her plastic Sumo wig and making slanty eyes with her fingers.
Vanessa said... 15 The proverbial chicken before the egg. Are Colin's issues a product of his environment or is it genetics? Does he have these issues as a result of the abuse? As a toddler, I certainly didn't see anything amiss, but then I don't have any qualifications do I? But I did see him being treated harshly and know he was abused violently for normal childhood behavior. What I'm trying to say is SHE the cause of his learning social disabilities? ***** I think Colin internalizes everything. He's very sensitive, and Robert's accounts of his interactions with him as a little boy are endearing. I would hope that Kate shows him extra tenderness and kindness, but I sort of doubt it. He doesn't reflect well on her and I think she lets him know it.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES · 14m14 minutes ago @MiloandJack 😘 I will always care and it kills me to see the bullies psychotic obsession with you. 😥😥
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES · 5m5 minutes ago @MiloandJack You don't need to leave, because that's exactly what they want, breaks maybe but never dessert your friends. 😘😘😘
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1m1 minute ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Sometimes best 2just walk away! Not abandoning anyone, my feelings remain the same. Haters will miss me more than anyone else.
Milo's ego is just as big as Kate's. And is she implying that Kate would not miss her if she left twitter?
It looks like this episode was a win-win for Kate the abuser. The kids brought the drama. Yelling, pushing and misbehaving not at home but in a hotel. Viewers are getting what they like to watch and that is a bunch of obnoxious kids.
Kate gets $40,000 (?) to have her kids viewed by one million households probably encouraged by TLC to be at their worst behavior .
And like a cherry on top Kate gets praised for learning to chill out and be more passive by the entertainment media. Everyone has to remember that Kate has raised those kids ALL by herself.
Maybe that was the theme of the episode not the birthday party. And the kids were used like tools.
They go to the clip of him saying this and only this short clip. Aaden smiles and "yes"
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But in that episode, on the couch interview, they said that Aaden had forgotten all about the cupcakes and it really wasn't important (or something like that). Now she asks him if he remembers it and he says that he did.
And like a cherry on top Kate gets praised for learning to chill out and be more passive by the entertainment media. Everyone has to remember that Kate has raised those kids ALL by herself.
********* If Kate was still selling the kids' free clothing, she wouldn't be chilling out. I wouldn't say she's more laid back, rather, she appears checked out. She's just not into trying anymore and is doing the minimum to get by.
And I still can't get over feeding grapes and cheese on paper plates STILL!
She seemed to be seething with jealousy while Cara was like, whatever you say...I wonder why the twins had their makeup and hair done in this special and not the others? The 'little' girls will soon be into all that.They were arguing on the couch who was prettiest.
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I think in another four or five years, Mady will be very attractive, if not stunning because of her "exotic" looks. Kate will have her hands full with vetting boyfriends and whatever. Of course, Mady will need a major attitude adjustment, but physically, she will be a knock-out. Just my opinion, of course, but she has the bone structure, the dark eyes, nice hair to grow into quite a looker.
If she really cared about Kate as she claimed, she'd be happy to see that she had new life on her twitter because of an episode. Instead, she hates that Kate might not notice her, her, her for 60 minutes.
Milo's obsession is bizarre, lustful, creepy and not a little frightening. I also think she could turn on her.
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She's not just a little frightening. She's downright scary. It's funny that the sheeple are always bringing up the "jelus" card about the haters when it's the Chief Ewe who is without a doubt jealous of any fans who might get more attention than she does.
And Mommy had a rule to never enter her bedroom, but now it seems to be Disney Channel Slumber Party Central, as long as you're not an icky boy.
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Right. She broke that rule, didn't she? Now it's obvious the reason that rule existed was because the marriage was over, Jon was sleeping in the garage apartment and she didn't want any of the kids in the bedroom because they would see that their daddy wasn't in the bedroom with their mother.
Once Jon was out of the picture, that penalty of severeness was lifted because there was no reason to keep up the deception that the couple was happily married in Kate's new "mine, all mine" paradise.
Kate will not show any extra or attention on Collin. It's going to be all his fault, that she has another school drop off, another school to deal with, maybe even frequent IEP meetings that she must be present at and hopefully Jon demands to attend these meetings. Collins will ruin her free time. If he's not in another private school, he may get to wear street clothes and not a uniform. If she could find a way, I am sure she's rather have him shipped off to a boarding facility.
Blowing In The Wind said... 24 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I won't comment on Mady's looks but I think it's one of the tup girls who will be the stunner of the family, if any will be.The other two are cute but average. But a lot can happen during adolescence.And yes, personality/manners count so they better all shape up in that department.
Once Jon was out of the picture, that penalty of severeness was lifted because there was no reason to keep up the deception that the couple was happily married in Kate's new "mine, all mine" paradise.
****** Banning the kids from the bedroom was a ruse to keep the kids in the dark about their Daddy living in the garage apartment. Can you imagine if those kids blabbed about that on film?
But in that episode, on the couch interview, they said that Aaden had forgotten all about the cupcakes and it really wasn't important (or something like that). Now she asks him if he remembers it and he says that he did. ***************************** Ha, yes good point!
*********************************** As far as Mady being stunning or not, I don't think it'll matter one bit if the way she treats people doesn't change. I thougth tfw "was" stunning in the beginning, in her first wedding picture, she looks like Fait Hill. Even with all the modifying she's done, she probably is considered stunning (by some) on the SURFACE (since I know she'll read this and only see stunning!) Means nothing if you have an ugly soul.
See but you know Kate . You know she hasn't chilled at all. All of us that have watched Kate for years know that she will never change. She will forever be the bitch that she is.
Tucker's Mom you think Maddy is going to be stunning? I don't see it. And I'm not being critical it's just an observation. As she gets older she's not that pretty. And I feel bad about saying that... The one that I think is going to be a real looker is Alexis.
But ultimately Kate will decide who is going to be the prettiest by investing money ( hair, dermatologist , teeth, clothes and maybe plastic surgery) so that child or more can continue to be on television.
Kendall Jenner has had her eyes, nose, and chin redefined . And look where she is now! I'm sure Kate is watching the Kardashians closely.
You can be a looker but personality counts. Being a teen is tough and awkward, but I do not care for the behavior at present. Kind of gives you a window into Kate's adolescence. No wonder she gave her parents trouble.
I don't think that everything can be laid at the feet of TFW. Learning differences can happen in the best of families, as do behavioral problems.
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I disagree. She's had 11, count 'em, 11 years to acknowledge that there is a problem and in order to protect her precious self she denied it. If that child needs help (and that's a big IF) she's wasted one hell of a lot of time to get it for him. I believe the emotional damage is all laid squarely at her sick feet.
And let's not forget the physical abuse either. She's doing it all alone, remember. Can't blame Jon for this one. He's the absentee parent, after all. Right sheeple?
The sooner he gets away from her vile, evil self, the better.
ITA about the master bedroom. However, she was dumb to think the kids did not sense anything. I remember how absurd it was that she made a big deal about the kids not entering the bedroom. It was uncalled for and just plain odd.
I have an adopted nephew. We knew from about the age of 4 that the child had some issues. His mother, a teacher, wouldn't hear of it and refused to acknowledge that there was anything wrong. Know when she had him tested? When he finished high school and was going into University. It was only when it got to the point that SHE could no longer do his homework for him that there was a problem. As an adult he's doing okay, but really? Look at all the years that kid struggled before he got help.
If the kids needed help, I would bet my last dollar that the authorities have been saying it for years. Meanwhile, she continued with the "top-of-their-class denial. Even when she held those kids back from starting kindergarten, who benefitted? Oh, that's right, she did. More filming. She did a disservice to all of those kids.
tfw had no business becoming a mother, a mother to EIGHT kids and even more so, the mother of a special needs kid (if indeed that's the case) Agree with you PJ, he just needs to get completely away from her. She could never tolerate anyone questioning her parenting, she cut anyone and everyone off when they did. How the hell do you think it'll work out when she has professionals giving her crucial instructions, techniques? When HER way will be critiqued and corrected? She's a lazy mother period, she will not put in the effort required. Get him out of there.
I remember how absurd it was that she made a big deal about the kids not entering the bedroom. It was uncalled for and just plain odd.
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But she does so many odd things, I really wonder if the children sensed something wasn't quite right. I would believe that they were used to her eccentric ways, and just thought...okay, the bedroom is off limits.
I'm signing off for a few days but I just want to wish everyone a very happy 4th of July!! Especially the pool ladies (gents). You guys have done a marvelous job!! I know it's a lot of work but know you're appreciated !
And for those that are Canadians hope you also have a great weekend!
Has anyone found the ratings for Tueday's show? I checked but I didn't see anything in the top 100. Sorry if this has been discussed, hard to track with all the comments.
And let's not forget the physical abuse either. She's doing it all alone, remember. Can't blame Jon for this one. He's the absentee parent, after all. Right sheeple?
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Exactly. Good point. They are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they want to claim that Jon never sees the children or cares about them, then this issue with Collin is all Kate's doing since she's the sole caregiver. For them to blame Jon, they'd have to admit that he does see the children, he's an active parent in their lives, and any issues Collin may have are Jon's fault. Then, of course, they'd have to admit that Kate isn't raising these kids all by herself.
Tucker's Mom you think Maddy is going to be stunning? I don't see it. And I'm not being critical it's just an observation. As she gets older she's not that pretty. And I feel bad about saying that...
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I totally disagree. Mady will be gorgeous. Just wait and see! :)
Alexis will be cute, cheerleader cute, but Mady will be the one who turns heads.
Formerly Duped said... 29 Blowing In The Wind said... 24 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I won't comment on Mady's looks but I think it's one of the tup girls who will be the stunner of the family, if any will be.The other two are cute but average. But a lot can happen during adolescence.And yes, personality/manners count so they better all shape up in that department.
******* Don't tell me, that same tup girl that reminds Kate of Kate? ;-)
For them to blame Jon, they'd have to admit that he does see the children, he's an active parent in their lives, and any issues Collin may have are Jon's fault. Then, of course, they'd have to admit that Kate isn't raising these kids all by herself. ******************************************* I can see them blaming Jon for NOT being present. And rest assured that bitch will also blame it on Jon NOT being a good father, provider etc etc etc She will never own any part in her children's dysfunction. never
Kate gets $40,000 (?) to have her kids viewed by one million households probably encouraged by TLC to be at their worst behavior .
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I really doubt that TLC had to do any encouraging for them to be at their worst behavior. They are not actors. I think that what you saw is what happens at home.
Even when she held those kids back from starting kindergarten, who benefitted? Oh, that's right, she did. More filming. She did a disservice to all of those kids. ****** I think it's a hard decision to split kids up, but I would have done it in a heartbeat. I also would dress them differently and never insist they all wear the same thing. That's all about the mother's ego.
TLC stinks said... 37 ITA about the master bedroom. However, she was dumb to think the kids did not sense anything. I remember how absurd it was that she made a big deal about the kids not entering the bedroom. It was uncalled for and just plain odd. ***** I remember feeling really sorry for them. There they are in a big, new house and Mommy said NEVER EVER come into my room. What if they were scared? Had nightmares?
Total gaslighting. Oh, it wasn't *that* bad! ******** Right, plus: a very public reminder that the children have no control over the narrative that she and TLC perpetuate. "I'm in charge and that's never gonna change" (not even when they mature, I'm betting)
But ultimately Kate will decide who is going to be the prettiest by investing money ( hair, dermatologist , teeth, clothes and maybe plastic surgery) so that child or more can continue to be on television. ***** I don't know about putting kids through braces (although DH just got his off!), but does anyone know of a reason why the boys haven't even started yet??
As far as Mady being stunning or not, I don't think it'll matter one bit if the way she treats people doesn't change. I thougth tfw "was" stunning in the beginning, in her first wedding picture, she looks like Fait Hill. Even with all the modifying she's done, she probably is considered stunning (by some) on the SURFACE (since I know she'll read this and only see stunning!) Means nothing if you have an ugly soul.
******* Kate is naturally pretty. I can see botoxing the "11's" out, but the rest of it is starting to take a toll on her face. I actually don't think she's that pretty anymore. Eye-catching with her whitey-white teeth, deep tan, long blonde hair and big tatas? Yes. But a pretty woman? No.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave. ***** Oh my, someone has an over-inflated opinion of themselves! Yes Milo, the "haters" keep "vanilla" file folders filled with your obsequious slaverings to Kate.
Is Collin seeing Jon again, and does anyone know why he stopped seeing him in the first place? Collin needs to be shown unconditional love, which does not come from Kate, obviously. To be the outcast, to be under that constant stress seems to have made him withdrawn and sad. If he had some reassurance from his father Collin may at least have a chance of feeling better about himself.
If we are feeling this degree of concern about him, imagine how Jon and the kids extended family are feeling. I always hope there are steps being taken in the background to bring some balance to their lives.
I was just thinking about C's new school situation. What if he's given a lot more homework? Will TFW "release" him from his chores, or will she let him fall behind at school? And if TFW has to drive to and from 2 different schools (or one school and one bus stop), it might eat into her precious going-back-to-bed routine. I think it's safe to assume C will incur her wrath even more frequently. We saw her mock him when he gave her a gift, for pete's sake -- how resentful will she be when his issues mean a daily disruption of her routine?
I think it's a hard decision to split kids up, but I would have done it in a heartbeat. ************************ Of course you would, as I believe most of us here would as well. More proof she does not see them as individuals with their own personalities and needs. She really was dumbfounded when Colin gave her the Momma bear and cub. "where's everyone else?" She really can't grasp that Colin is a PERSON. ONE person. That her children are INDIVIDUALS. And she lumps them together (or boys vs girls) for HER agenda, HER needs and HER wants. It's all to be convenient for her,or to feed her black soul. As PJ said, ELEVEN YEARS?? She refused to believe or acknowledge his issues (and hers) until there was no squirming out of it. There's no connection with her kids other than they prop HER up or they are the root of her "meltdowns"
Kate is naturally pretty. **************************** Kate was naturally pretty. WAS Watching the old footage from the link franky provided you REALLY see how she's morphed into ugly. The receding hairline is VERY apparent. Her hair was so thick healthy and shiny back then. Her complexion was clear and glowing.. She's just gross now. Dirty
Let's throw tomatoes said... 41 I'm signing off for a few days but I just want to wish everyone a very happy 4th of July!! Especially the pool ladies (gents). You guys have done a marvelous job!! I know it's a lot of work but know you're appreciated !
And for those that are Canadians hope you also have a great weekend!
Kate is naturally pretty. I can see botoxing the "11's" out, but the rest of it is starting to take a toll on her face. **** Sorry, meant to write "Kate was" naturally pretty. Yes, she did look like Faith Hill at her wedding.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave. **************************** Then LEAVE FFS!
haha, nope! A different tup. Sheeple often comment all the kids look like Kate- don't see that either. And I guess we all have an opinion about Mady but maybe it's hard for me to see past her nastiness.
AuntieAnn said... 61 And Mommy had a rule to never enter her bedroom, but now it seems to be Disney Channel Slumber Party Central, as long as you're not an icky boy.
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I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps. *********************************** LOL! hahaha Or Dracula's coffin
haha, nope! A different tup. Sheeple often comment all the kids look like Kate- don't see that either. And I guess we all have an opinion about Mady but maybe it's hard for me to see past her nastiness. ************************************ The only kid I think looks like tfw is Colin. He's got her eyes and nose.
If we are feeling this degree of concern about him, imagine how Jon and the kids extended family are feeling. I always hope there are steps being taken in the background to bring some balance to their lives. ****** I'm sure that Jon and others, like Jodi and Kevin, are emotional about what Colin's going through and the kids being forced to film still.
What do I know but-- I would think that Colin's needs are not served by filming and making his struggles public and viewed by millions. You'd think that it's common sense that Jon could win an argument before a judge, that he get this child off tv. But who knows. The courts don't seem fair at times.
I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps. ****** Ensconced in her tanned arms and French tips!
See how Gladys is associating herself with TFW in that tweet? How the haters' file about her is as big as the one they have on TFW? Two peas in a pod, they are! Instead of Single White Female, I think I'd label this Single White Freakshow.
Ph without the D is still around -- guess her days weren't really "numbered" as she claimed a few months ago. All these people ought to invest in some index cards to keep handy, so they can keep track of their lies. They can make different categories: health, job, family, friends, etc. Just a friendly suggestion from a bitter, black-hearted busybody!
I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps. *********************************** LOL! hahaha Or Dracula's coffin ****** Perhaps she sleeps in a sarcophagus in her locked closet.
Kate is not naturally pretty. She was not naturally pretty. She had a small period of time when she was pretty: when she just started the plastic surgery (chin implant), tummy tuck and before the lipo and weight loss followed by horrible stringy hair and too many procedures to count. Now she's scary looking, like a witch crossed with a Donkey
I would think that Colin's needs are not served by filming and making his struggles public and viewed by millions ************************** No kidding. A teacher or school would be held accountable if they enabled this type of scrutiny and commentary. It's an open invitation to bullying.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/dylann-roof-sister-amber-roof-starts-go-fund-me-campaign-wedding-honeymoon/ ****** I know we've talked about Go Fund Me accounts before, but this one really takes the (wedding) cake! http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/dylann-roof-sister-amber-roof-starts-go-fund-me-campaign-wedding-honeymoon/
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave. **************************** Then LEAVE FFS!
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LOL, Vanessa!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h3 hours ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Sometimes best 2just walk away! Not abandoning anyone, my feelings remain the same. Haters will miss me more than anyone else.
Uh oh. Trouble in Miloville. Milo's threatening to walk?? Come on, Kate, beg her to stay! She's feeling sorry for herself today because she's been a martyr for Kate and Kate doesn't appreciate her.
"Haters will miss me more than anyone else"? That almost sounds like a Kate slam. Wonder if the Colin situation is actually hard for even Milo to defend? Nah, couldn't be.
I do wonder how Milo mentally defends the fact that some of the kids are obviously out of control, sassy and with discipline and self-control issues. After all, Kate "did it all." Now, who's to blame? Not Jon, right?
What if Milo suddenly saw the light and needs a graceful way out?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30 Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes *************************************************
I would think 11 yr olds would know not to manhandle and run with a tiny bird? And kids downstairs with just the camera man?
I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps.
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Just don't feed her after midnight and for God's sake don't get her wet. OMG! I just stumbled on the reason for her meltdowns whenever she's near water!
Vanessa said... 66 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Really? I don't see any resemblance between Collin and TFW. Collin does have that droopy lid and Kate has a wonky eye, but otherwise, not alike to me. But we all see things differently :)
Vanessa said... 78 Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30 Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes *************************************************
I would think 11 yr olds would know not to manhandle and run with a tiny bird? And kids downstairs with just the camera man? July 2, 2015 at 12:37 PM ******** I hope nothing happens to that bird. Zorro seems like an incredibly sweet birdie. I do wonder what Kate's going to do when the kids grow up and she's got the bird to herself. Maybe one of the kids will take him.
Tucker's Mom said... 72 I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps. *********************************** LOL! hahaha Or Dracula's coffin ****** Perhaps she sleeps in a sarcophagus in her locked closet. ****************************** Good Lord, I'd hate to stumble across that and open it! Might get turned into stone.
Formerly Duped said... 79 Vanessa said... 66 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Really? I don't see any resemblance between Collin and TFW. Collin does have that droopy lid and Kate has a wonky eye, but otherwise, not alike to me. But we all see things differently :) *************************** So true. People say the same about our kids, there's no unanimous opinion on which kid looks like which parent.
Where I really saw it was in the fuckity millionth day of bedrest for her vaseline'd saran wrapped clown car trunk.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave. ___ BYE Felicia.
I can't imagine Milo going away. It would leave a huge hole in her life and Milo would lose her own identity. She thinks she and Kate are soulmates and so alike. They suffer the same slings and arrows, are vilified by the same people, poor misunderstood women waging an uphill battle together day in and day out with only Milo's daily platitudes to get them through each cold, cruel day. Milo could never let her soulmate down.
chefsummer #Leh said... 85 Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago @MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave. ___ BYE Felicia. *********
Sue_Buddy said... 86 I can't imagine Milo going away. It would leave a huge hole in her life and Milo would lose her own identity. She thinks she and Kate are soulmates and so alike. They suffer the same slings and arrows, are vilified by the same people, poor misunderstood women waging an uphill battle together day in and day out with only Milo's daily platitudes to get them through each cold, cruel day. Milo could never let her soulmate down. ******** I think we should just call Milo "Brokeback" from now on.
@RealZiggyFlo: Why is it OK 4 @Kateplusmy8 2 bring up her child's' issues but not Jon? Kate did so for positive informative purposes. Jon did it to attack. ======== And now we know how the sheeple justify what TFW did.
NJGal51 said... 89 @RealZiggyFlo: Why is it OK 4 @Kateplusmy8 2 bring up her child's' issues but not Jon? Kate did so for positive informative purposes. Jon did it to attack. ======== And now we know how the sheeple justify what TFW did. July 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM ******** Seriously. Jon was speaking out of concern that his children are not doing well because of filming and he wasn't attacking Kate. He was concerned. It is, however, an indictment of her character, motives and moral compass.
Milo...Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.???????
Leave what Milo? Someones twitter? Are you f'kn serious? Do you hear yourself? Are you waiting with bated breath for Kate to beg you not to pack your bags and leave? You my dear girl are a full blown lunatic! Yep lunacy at its best. I pray to god you are in a facility where your family (if there is a family) can keep an eye on you.
@RealZiggyFlo: @Kateplusmy8 When a child has medical issue which isn't obvious it's more often than not a relief 4 them 4 those issues 2B made known. ********* To be known to a million strangers??!! Is this woman insane? It is fine to let friends and family know, but strangers. Even children deserve privacy.
I think we should just call Milo "Brokeback" from now on.
"Dagummit, Kate. I wish I knew how to quit you."
-----OMG, this is one of the funniest things I've read in a long time. *snort* lol, still laughing!!! (and I think you're also the poster that called Kate 'the gift of the v-jay-jay', if I recall correctly!)
still laughing.........
(and btw, Brokeback is a beautifully written book)
I thought that both Joel and Aaden looked reeeeally uncomfortable when they were sitting on the couch next to their mom. And almost frightened of her. It was probably the most one-on-one attention they've had from her in awhile.
Vanessa (#78), so TFW is saying she's never seen the kids running with Zorro before, so now it's a new rule. They've had this pet for more than a year, but she's never seen that. Are we to believe the kids never did it before now, and chose to do it when there was a camera? Or is she really, truly, not often in the same room as those kids -- especially her sons? It's a bit late for the gestapo to be coming up with her never-changing Mommy rules about this.
The other version is, the kids do it all the time, and it's never occurred to her that it might harm the bird. Remember the drive to school with Zorro flying free -- something she thought so utterly harmless (and adorable!) that she wrote a blog post about it? So she pretends they were gathered 'round the TV like Ma Walton and her brood, and she saw the boys running with the bird, and she said, "O, my sweet children, you mustn't ever run with Zorro! He is a family member! Now who wants popcorn and a surprise?"
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30 Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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Why the @TLC? Did they get complaints? Did someone call the ASPCA? I sure hope so. Too bad the kids don't get that same kind of care and attention.
@RealZiggyFlo: @Kateplusmy8 When a child has medical issue which isn't obvious it's more often than not a relief 4 them 4 those issues 2B made known. ----- Based on which official study? Ziggy keeps proving what an idiot she is.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30 Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes ----- It wasn't the actual running that worried me - it was the fact that Aaden roughly grabbed the bird & was clutching it tightly in his fist while running & jumping around. The kids seem to think that Zorro is a toy. Ugh.
@RealZiggyFlo: Why is it OK 4 @Kateplusmy8 2 bring up her child's' issues but not Jon? Kate did so for positive informative purposes. Jon did it to attack.
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I wonder how long into the meeting the sheep were before they came up with this deflection gem? Was it past time for the Twinkies and Pepsi to be served and they all agreed to just go with this so they could mosey on over to the table?
Oh, and Milo? Don't let the door hit ya in the ass.
P.J. said... 98 Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30 Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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Why the @TLC? Did they get complaints? Did someone call the ASPCA? I sure hope so. Too bad the kids don't get that same kind of care and attention. ********** I bet Kate gave TLC a piece of her bleached mind when she saw that. As a producer, she should be getting advanced copies of the episodes. Doesn't appear so.
Just don't feed her after midnight and for God's sake don't get her wet. OMG! I just stumbled on the reason for her meltdowns whenever she's near water!
Today, several of us here referred to Milo as obsessed or having an obsession. (Flimsy and myself for two). So Milo definitely reads here.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 47m47 minutes ago @Aimeecharlotte1 That's the reason I hang around. They call me obsessed...but I just have so much respect 4her! & she has helped me alot!
I think it was Joel who threw a pillow at Aaden when he was running with Zorro.Alexis also has been rough with the bird, and as for the painting episode...
Was glad to see, though, that the kids do seem to have nice close friendships with peers.
Hey. noticed Leah said "hour" for "our" instead of "R" in the last couch interview LOL
Tucker's Mom (#104), yes, a real producer would see a preview of the show so she could give notes as it was being edited. She'd get a link from someone at Figure 8 or TLC to the current cut of the episode for her feedback. But I don't think TLC gives a rat's behind what she thinks. She may be a blackbelt user, but TLC absolutely has the upper hand in this relationship. If she hadn't been foolish enough to repeatedly voice her utter desperation for work, she might have some more power.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 106 Today, several of us here referred to Milo as obsessed or having an obsession. (Flimsy and myself for two). So Milo definitely reads here.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 47m47 minutes ago @Aimeecharlotte1 That's the reason I hang around. They call me obsessed...but I just have so much respect 4her! & she has helped me alot! ****** Milo has blinders on when it comes to Kate. I think she's more silly than obsessed. The haterz on Kate's twitter line are obsessed.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 108 Tucker's Mom (#104), yes, a real producer would see a preview of the show so she could give notes as it was being edited. She'd get a link from someone at Figure 8 or TLC to the current cut of the episode for her feedback.
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What???? You mean she should actually w-w-w...w-w-w-...w-w-work? She masterminds, she doesn't work. Didn't you watch CA where everyone had to step up or the job didn't get done?
Pj said.... I disagree. She's had 11, count 'em, 11 years to acknowledge that there is a problem and in order to protect her precious self she denied it. If that child needs help (and that's a big IF) she's wasted one hell of a lot of time to get it for him. I believe the emotional damage is all laid squarely at her sick feet. --- What are you disagreeing with? I only said that learning difficulties and behavior problems can happen in any family--it isn't necessarily caused by TFW. She is an atrocious, abusive and neglectful mother--on that I think we agree!
What???? You mean she should actually w-w-w...w-w-w-...w-w-work? She masterminds, she doesn't work. Didn't you watch CA where everyone had to step up or the job didn't get done?
***** But, but, but...Kate knows how to best portray her family.
Actually, I think Kate has no clue what's filmed much of the time. She gives the crew full access to her kids without supervision.
I don't think that everything can be laid at the feet of TFW.
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That's what I'm disagreeing with. I think it can be laid at her feet. Denial, neglect, call it what you want. Nurture or Nature. I'm going with nurture although that was the furthest thing from reality in the house.
I am coming out from the verandah and going to do something I usually refuse to do, comment on Milo.
Milo, if you do read here and really are thinking about leaving twitter, please do it for you. It may not be your fault the way you are being perceived, but admit, your over-the-top tweets invited it.
Take a break, re-group being active in your life loving and appreciating real people in your life, give your full support to them. I truly believe perspective will come back.
Milo, if you do read here and really are thinking about leaving twitter, please do it for you. It may not be your fault the way you are being perceived, but admit, your over-the-top tweets invited it.
laura ☾ @peachyvogue 2m2 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 Kate can you tweet me the recipe for the 4th of July fruit cake you made years ago? ******** Here we go again. Some sheep are really slow. Try Betty Crocker. Kate did.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 49 Kate gets $40,000 (?) to have her kids viewed by one million households probably encouraged by TLC to be at their worst behavior .
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I really doubt that TLC had to do any encouraging for them to be at their worst behavior. They are not actors. I think that what you saw is what happens at home. ---- That's the thing though. They've been turned into actors. Be it because of the simple fact that as people get older they're more aware of how they are seen by others and can't help acting when on camera and/or because Plus 8 is not and never has been a true documentary. TLC doesn't gather the kids in an organic (slight pun intended) situation and just let life happen while they film. They set up pre arranged story lines with characters, retakes, sets, scripts and lines to deliver.
It must be mucho confusing for those kids. Because they know they are real people, they know what their life and relationships are like when there are no cameras and what ends up on television. How days are edited together, storylines built, conflicts, villains, heroes and all. So confusing.
What will it take to get those kids away from this beast? They're brainwashed into believing that this is their best and only option. They are trapped with that horrid beast and some might not even realize they're being abused daily. This is their normal. And it's so sad.
Oh, my gosh, franky! You had time to roll out and change the barrels, find a sheeple the flag cake recipe, check on your straw supplies, spit shine your crocs and make and freeze all the cookies for the next school year and crawl back under the Veranda for a nap till the littles and come home from school.
Oh, my gosh, franky! You had time to roll out and change the barrels, find a sheeple the flag cake recipe, check on your straw supplies, spit shine your crocs and make and freeze all the cookies for the next school year and crawl back under the Veranda for a nap till the littles and come home from school.
well there then and redbird, forgot to mention...I also filed my nails ( sans white tips), watched tv, walked my lab, washed my floors... yah know, things that take HOURS!!!
I also cringed when one of the boys had a death grip on Zorro. wth? They are so rough with him, never gentle. None of them are gentle.
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I didn't watch the show. I don't want to see a bird man-handled with a death grip and careless kids goofing around with a small parrot. A bird's legs are very fragile, almost tooth-pick like, and the slightest mishandling can break them like twigs. There's not much that can be done if that happens. You can splint it and hope that it heals, but in many cases, the leg or legs may develop gangrine and have to be amputated. I've seen that happen too often. I have a small Caique here right now with one leg. They do learn to perch on only one leg, but Kate could never deal with that.
That bird will meet with a serious or even fatal accident. It's a tragedy just waiting to happen, and it's been predicted here. If that bird is being grabbed and handled carelessly, no wonder he is biting. It's the only defense he has and his way of letting them know that he's afraid, apprehensive and uncertain of their next move. He's warning them, and they are too immature to understand bird behavior,
_______________ Yes. Not to mention the dumbest of the dumb. Isn't this the one with the um, daughter who has um, some very real issues going on with several arrests on her record? Would she sit on a national television show and discuss her daughter, putting everything out there because it might help the daughter once it's been aired?
Eight is More Than Enough... I agree completely with you, this is a television production, crew hired, salaries paid, they need a story line, an arc, and it has to be done efficiently to get it in the 'can'.
Although I did not see the 11th birthday episode, things had to be set up in advance, the venues, the restaurant, the hotel. They had to pick the best place to have conflict and the hotel likely won out because it was the least public. Right, get the girls into a room without enough beds, that should do it! Perhaps it is not scripted, but I believe there is a plan, the kids know some of it, but not all, not the part that is set up to cause drama and conflict.
The overall theme, the thread, is to portray Kate as the struggling confused, overwhelmed 'single' mother of eight doing the best she can. To prove this we have eye rolls, the sighs and feigned exhaustion, all at the expense of the children she sees as a burden (well, a burden and a paycheque).
Perhaps there is some reality on the couch when the kids speak up, but anything too negative about their mother is on the editing room floor. So, for me at least, there is very little reality in this production, oh, except Kate's dislike for her kids, now that's real!
I can't imagine Milo going away. It would leave a huge hole in her life and Milo would lose her own identity. She thinks she and Kate are soulmates and so alike.
__________ She will not go away as long as Kate is there. She plays martyr every now and then, and it appears that this is the time. She is such a loose cannon. Kate is her life...her entire life. Leaving Twitter would leave such a void in her life that she could never deal with it. She's addicted; Kate is the drug of her choice, and the withdrawal would be traumatizing.
Life has never, nor will ever be easy for us Canadians...but we will always remain strong! We will always apologise for life and try to help, beyond our means, We Are Canadian!!!
PJ, 38...If the kids needed help, I would bet my last dollar that the authorities have been saying it for years. Meanwhile, she continued with the "top-of-their-class denial.
(((((((( She continued with that nonsense, never realizing that there would be locals who know that the school does not rank students.
Milo, dear Milo. She's tried everything to get Kate's attention on a one-on-one basis, lamenting over being ignored during the tweeting party. She needs attention from Kate and she's not getting it. I guess she's reaching into her bag of tricks, and she's scraping the bottom of the barrel with the threat to leave. It will never happen. She plays the sympathy card, disappears for awhile, but always returns. Nobody was interested enough in her trip to the wellness center to even ask about it, and lord knows, she dropped enough hints. What does she have left to get Kate's attention? Major surgery? Kate did give her a shout-out on television. Wasn't this when Milo was having serious health issues (or so she said)? Honestly, at this point I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of her mouth, other than her love and obsession for Kate.
I wonder if she's afraid that she's close to being outed, either as a catfish, or as someone nobody would suspect of taking on the role of Kate's Biggest Fan.
Someone on Kate's twitter timeline posted the early 2009 interview Oprah did with the family from their home. It was right after Octomom had all her babies and Oprah asked Kate her feelings about it. I've never seen the interview and realized this was when they were separated but no one knew it yet and it was filmed in the new house. So it was interesting to watch Jon and Kate's demeanor during it.
Kate was giving a tour of the house to the Oprah cameraman and was showing her OWN crew and said "The crew changes so often at this point and we're seeing a lot of different people". She points out "Mike the audio guy" and said "he's the only one left from the very beginning." I guess she doesn't realize her lies will catch up to her at some point. "Same crew" my ass. I know we've discussed this before but she obviously doesn't remember all her lies or how to keep her stories straight over the years.
She was talking to Oprah, trying to sell her bullsh*t to her and the viewers that the kids were fine. She said "This is normal to them (being on tv), it has not adversely affected them. It has increased our ability to travel, to meet people, to learn social skills, to learn people skills and life skills. So I feel like a family of 8 kids, they're going to grow up and be really ready for the world".
A radio station did a mashup of Freddie Mercury and Kayne West trying to sing Bohemian Rhapsody at the big concert at Glastonbury this past weekend. It is fascinating because even though the video of Freddie is 30+ years old, it looks like it was filmed last week.
I watched Freddie sing at LIVE AID on tv 35 years ago. I heard that the drs. told Freddie that if he went on stage to sing that he would destroy his vocal cords. He wanted to be a part of it and he went out and sang, I forgot what song, but the note that he hit and held it for 10 to 15 minutes, it seemed? They call it The Note Heard Around the World.
I am calling Kayne's "singing" The Warble Heard Around the World". If Kayne had auditioned for X Factor when he was just beginning his "singing" career, Simon Cowell couldn't of buzzed him fast enough!!
Life has never, nor will ever be easy for us Canadians...but we will always remain strong! We will always apologise for life and try to help, beyond our means, We Are Canadian!!!
and yes, we all know how to build an igloo. LOL
franky July 2, 2015 at 7:36 PM Anonymous said... 128 or a snow cave if need be
Love you franky, but you’re giving the wrong impression of Canada! Nope, don’t know how to build a snow cave. An igloo? But then I live in the banana belt of Canada. YES we are strong, I’ll give you that. And, we always say “sorry” - eh?
Sorry frankie, maybe I'm a little sensitive after seeing an Anthony Bourdain episode on Canada last night. The whole show was in the dead of a Quebec winter. Ice fishing & blizzards the whole hour .
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30 Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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Let me get this straight. How long have they had that bird and Kate's never seen any of her kids running with Zorro up until she watched the show? What the hell? Did they run with him only because the cameras were there and the producers told them to liven it up, do something you shouldn't do or otherwise there's nothing to film but a bunch of kids sitting around watching tv or texting away on their phones? Or is Kate aware of it happening all the time and just covering her ass again pretending 'it's never happened before'?
I wonder if she's afraid that she's close to being outed, either as a catfish, or as someone nobody would suspect of taking on the role of Kate's Biggest Fan.
********** She was outed as a catfish a long, long time ago in my mind. WHO Milo is, I don't know. But if Milo actually is a Georgia woman with 2 kids and 2 pets who truly adores Kate Gosselin from afar, nobody will be more shocked than I am. I haven't believed that since Milo first started playing, as you said, Kate's Biggest Fan.
Milo has flounced away before. She may disappear for a couple of weeks but she'll be back.
It IS often a relief to a child or an adult to find out exactly what is wrong. You finally know you haven't been imagining things. You can often get help. It is NOT a relief to share it on tv and a Radar article and whatever else will happen.
Hi there, I have been reading since the beginning and post very infrequently. My whole handle is " get medicated Kate you'll feel better" I shortened it to "get medicated" well, because it's shorter. :-) I just have to say that I was in Vancoover, Canada for the Canada vs England game and I was so impressed by how nice everyone was! We are from Seattle but we bought Canada t-shirts to support our neighbors. We were offered flags, necklaces etc..... Even after they knew we were from the U.S. It was a heartbreaking game for Canada but everyone was so classy!! The standing ovation for your girls was great to watch! Also, NOBODY was leaving that arena. What a fun experience. Not to mention, we had tickets to five games and what a great host you all are, vendors, restaurants, bus drivers, citizens, etc..... That's all. I have enjoyed reading on this blog, it makes me feel like I'm not alone in thinking the Gosselin matriarch has serious issues. I love particularly reading Auntie's, Tucker's, Mel's, Flimsy and Midnights postings. Ya'll are funny and make me LOL at least once a day. redbird, something about you reminds me of my mom. You have a soft heart but I wish you weren't so invested because it seems to anger you quickly. I hope I've expressed myself without offending, back to my reading nook! Oh!!! And the shows I've watched on all the recommendations..... Excellent!
Anonymous said... 138 Hi there, I have been reading since the beginning and post very infrequently. My whole handle is " get medicated Kate you'll feel better" I shortened it to "get medicated" well, because it's shorter. :-) ******* Hi Medicated! I love how we have a good handful of Canadians here. What is it about Canada that makes people so nice and so cool? Seriously, never met a Canadian that was nice. Maybe it's the air up there!
I hope Admin is having a great time still, but we're chugging along just fine approaching 1400 comments. Nice job pool girls and gents(?).
It IS often a relief to a child or an adult to find out exactly what is wrong. You finally know you haven't been imagining things. You can often get help. It is NOT a relief to share it on tv and a Radar article and whatever else will happen. ******* People in general want to put a name/diagnosis to what's wrong. I like to say they like to have something to "hang their hat on".
I don't think Colin's been diagnosed recently. I think Kate's been avoiding the inevitable to keep the 6-pack together at that school.
It's going to be more work now that the kids are separated.
A radio station did a mashup of Freddie Mercury and Kayne West trying to sing Bohemian Rhapsody at the big concert at Glastonbury this past weekend. It is fascinating because even though the video of Freddie is 30+ years old, it looks like it was filmed last week. ******* Kanye West couldn't lick Freddie's shoes! Ugh. Loved Freddie, from his flamboyance to those Bucky Beaver teeth!
It's ok Jolie, it is was all snark on my part, sorry for upsetting you. On the plus side, it is a balmy 10C here this glorious July 3rd. I woke up at 6 am to close my windows.
She was talking to Oprah, trying to sell her bullsh*t to her and the viewers that the kids were fine. She said "This is normal to them (being on tv), it has not adversely affected them. It has increased our ability to travel, to meet people, to learn social skills, to learn people skills and life skills. So I feel like a family of 8 kids, they're going to grow up and be really ready for the world".
Boy she got THAT all wrong! ****** Yup, Kate knew all the buzzwords and at that point in time, it would have been difficult to impossible to tell what was really going on with the kids. What everyone with 8 brain cells to rub together knew was that Kate was lying when when she said if anyone wants to stop filming, we'll stop.
It's not a democracy, it's a tyrannical dictatorship. Always has been.
Early morning laugh! Trump Tweeted that Macy's stock dropped and people are telling him they're cutting up their Macy's cards. Um...this week, Macy card holders (including me) got a notice that it's no longer a Macy's AmEx, it's just an AmExpress card. No more Macy's card and that's why the stock drop and card cutting! His ego knows no bounds!
The thought of Donald Trump in the Oval Office actually frightens me.
The overall theme, the thread, is to portray Kate as the struggling confused, overwhelmed 'single' mother of eight doing the best she can. To prove this we have eye rolls, the sighs and feigned exhaustion, all at the expense of the children she sees as a burden (well, a burden and a paycheque).* ************ Jumping in? Are you sure you didn't watch? Lol Yup, that was it in a nutshell.
t. A bird's legs are very fragile, almost tooth-pick like, and the slightest mishandling can break them like twigs. There's not much that can be done if that happens ******
They showed Alexis a few times with Zorro "hooked"? on the back of her hoodie. She reaches behind her head and pries his little feet off, much like pulling staples. First thing I thought was one of those legs is going to snap, easy.
Get Medicated (#138), thanks for the shout-out -- hope you'll comment more often.
Wonder what supermom TFW has planned for the 4th of July? No future show airings mentioned yet, and a girl's got to keep her name in the news. Maybe we'll be treated to a pic of the family gathered around the famous Flag Cake, or posed in front of the house holding sparklers. Does she ever, EVER plan something wonderful for her kids away from her property that doesn't include cameras? And I don't want to hear that she does, but just doesn't talk about it, because she would surely share the news on Twitter.
The overall theme, the thread, is to portray Kate as the struggling confused, overwhelmed 'single' mother of eight doing the best she can. To prove this we have eye rolls, the sighs and feigned exhaustion, all at the expense of the children she sees as a burden (well, a burden and a paycheque). ******* Exactly, well put. How do people NOT GET that not only is everything paid for and arranged, but Kate gets a FAT paycheck for filming? The outpouring of pity from what I assume to be otherwise mentally stable individuals is sad and misguided. Kate doesn't need, nor deserve their pity.
The thought of Donald Trump in the Oval Office actually frightens me. ********* What a dink. There's a narcissist who is obviously getting much much worse in his old age.
Tucker's Mom (#148), your comment reminded me of the Ronald McDonald House episode, where TFW is seen writing a check to donate to them. If you were just a casual viewer flipping channels and landed on that scene, you might very well get choked up, and think about this poor woman's struggles, and how lovely it is that she's now paying them back for all her blessings. But she was getting PAID for that episode. Same with the food bank, and the trip to St. Jude's, and both yard sales (with "prodceeds" going to charity). The less thought you put into it, the better she looks. And that's why she attracts fans for whom "less thought" seems to be the norm.
During Kate's tweet fest Tuesday, she tweeted this:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Jun 30 We are really seeing each of their unique makeup.. Especially over this last year... They aren’t a ‘lump’ group of kids. @TLC #KatePlus8
It took her 11 years to realize this? This was tweeted before her confession about Collin. Damage control?
Then Milo tweets that filming must help her be a good parent. WTF?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Jun 30 @Kateplusmy8 @TLC Seeing them on film...they way they react...you get 2see stuff you probably miss! Helps you to parent, don't ya think?
So that's how to learn to be a good parent--get a reality TV show!! Why haven't all the parenting experts thought of this before?
I was worried abut Zorro twice ( now thrice, and in general!) Once was Kate was rinsing the cake off him rather roughly, and also that night when Alexis scooted him across the counter, also in a firm grip. That poor bird!
Of course she's starting to see them as not a lump of kids, especially this last year. It's hard to lump them into a group when one of them goes to a completely different school.
I'm surprised that she even lets him into the house and hasn't banished him to the chicken coop. Or his father's house. Oh wait. His father is dead. Maybe a crew daddy could take him in.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30 Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes +++++ How about you KATE stop shoving poor Zorro in that wonder bra. I bet he doesn't want to be in-between those implants.
Last night she tweeted that she, Cara and Mady were watching Big Brother. Shouldn't she be watching the freak channel if she wants to keep in good with TLC?
I guess she wants the twins to learn social and life skills from the contestants in the house.
Hi "get medicated" nice to see you posting. I'm happy you had a good experience in Vancouver. Are you going to the soccer game on Sunday? Should be a good one!
Mel said... 153 Some really good life, social, people skills those kids learned from filming! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yes, it's very telling that the children don't hesitate to throw their tantrums and diss their mother and siblings in front of the camera, not to mention their friends and strangers. I think the children know that they can get away with it because the cameras are there and that type of behaviour is silently condoned and encouraged by TLC, just as it was for Kate. Learning good life, social and people skills? I don't think so. It's the opposite.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30 Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
But it's safe for her to drive with him loose in her car.
So that's how to learn to be a good parent--get a reality TV show!! Why haven't all the parenting experts thought of this before?
----- Well, sure, and if you want to save gas, you get three cars, and if you don't want to pay for a community pool membership, you put in a pool. Doesn't everyone do that?
Tuckers mom: Yes, for Kate, having a kid in a separate school WILL be more work for: just Kate. I know some people who have 6 kids, and live in a suburb, where, 3 kids go to the grade school k-5, 1 kid is in the JR High , 6-8, and the oldest goes to high school which is 9-12. So they are dealing with not 1 school like Kate is k-12, they are dealing with 3 separate schools. So, I don't know what Kate will bitch about. Thousands of parents do it all the time for at least 100 years. The school she picked, all the grades are in one place. So having 1 kid go to a different school so what Kate.
Geez, the Hayes had kids going to 4 different schools, high school, Jr High, grade school & special ed. You did not hear Betty complain.
The one thing about this awful show that may help the gosselin hostages, is that an objective person (therapist, psychiatrist, etc) can show those kids their abuse and help them heal, if they even get that far. I had no idea I had been abused and neglected because it was all I knew and our family looks great on the outside. I resisted anyone telling me otherwise for the first year or so of therapy after completely falling to pieces after years of depression and addiction. When I finally accepted and internalized the truth, there were a couple of years of absolute rage and sadness. I felt so ripped off by my childhood and narc mom. But it was so worth going through because I am free from it and her now. I keep things cordial but distant and I am free from her scolding disapproving critiques and can now look at her with some compassion for the unhappy sick person she is. One of my siblings has also broken free (geographical cures do help), two are still enmeshed with her but they remain dependent on her for money in one case and childcare in the other. They protect her and don't see her the same way I do. Anyway, I wish those poor children happiness and freedom some day.
Getoftweeter (#167), and parents can have as few as 3 kids and, depending on the age range, have 3 different schools. And maybe have full-time jobs to deal with, too. But, well, getting kids to and from school is pretty much a basic need. No medals for that, TFW.
But once school starts, we may get treated to a new blog post about the difficulty of having kids in different schools. Or, even better for the martyr mom, TLC will be there to film that first day of utter chaos. I can just picture her throne interview -- TFW clutching a Kleenex, and poking and dabbing her dry eyes about doing it all alone, but that her child's needs come first, so she did what she had to do. The child she couldn't think of anything positive to say about on his birthday.
My sister has four kids; one in middle school, one in a high school, one in one college and one in another. I've always said having them at the same age is easier than having them spread out.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack @MY_2BCOLLIES Sometimes best 2just walk away! Not abandoning anyone, my feelings remain the same. Haters will miss me more than anyone else.
So Kate won't miss her too much?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack @Aimeecharlotte1 The more U get 2know her..the more respect U will have 4her! Nice 2have U on board as an intelligent sane voice of reason!
She doesn't get it! This is the reason she is teased, but she just can't grasp it. She doesn't know her, but she leads others to believe that she does. She had numerous opportunities to meet Kate, but has excuses every time, and really got irate when it was suggested that she attend the block party.Why won't she meet her? This is perhaps one of the biggest mysteries in this entire Kate-Milo saga.
What I can't understand is why Kate is respected. For what? For parental alienation? For her lies? For putting her children on display, using them to support her because she's too lazy to find a job and support them? For sharing her son's developmental issues on national television? One could go on and on. Yet Milo tells a fan that the more you know her, the more you will respect her, but the sad truth is that Milo is being fooled beyond belief because she doesn't know her, but she's too deep into celebrity worship to open her eyes and see things as they really are.
Ohhh dear, poor Kate, 2 different schools. We had 7 children who were in private school, and here the schools are gender divided as well as age. So I had to deliver and pick the kids to 5 different locations as we don't have school buses, pre-school, junior girls, junior boys, senior girls and senior boys. I even had to do a second trip every afternoon as one or more would have sport training, all while dealing with a toddler or newborn, can't tell you how many times I would have to pull over to feed a screaming baby, thank goodness breast milk comes pre-heated lol...but that was life and I managed, and I am still sane and smiling.
I love how we have a good handful of Canadians here. What is it about Canada that makes people so nice and so cool? Seriously, never met a Canadian that was nice. Maybe it's the air up there!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 47m47 minutes ago @Aimeecharlotte1 That's the reason I hang around. They call me obsessed...but I just have so much respect 4her! & she has helped me alot!
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Helped you what? This has to be one the strangest tweets ever.
How on earth has Kate helped Milo when 1) they've never met 2) Kate barely acknowledges Milo existence to the point that Milo regularly pouts about being ignored and 3) Kate doesn't help anyone but herself.
I used to be on the fence about who/what Milo actually is and leaned more toward the side of paid minion. Now, I'm not so sure.
This recent bout of woe is me, I'm so under appreciated, I may have to leave, haters hate me more than Kate blah blah, have me rethinking it.
I just have a hard time understanding how someone could be so dependent on a stranger's attentions and so lacking in personal integrity that they define themselves by the actions of said stranger.
I'm thinking of the great movies that were/are currently out that TFW hasn't mentioned taking the kids to: Jurassic World, Inside/Out, Home, Spongebob Squarepants. A month into summer vacation, and she couldn't take them off the compound for a movie? Now that she's outed herself about her monthly spa visits, she really can't get away with the "it's too expensive" excuse.
I'll say it again -- she really, truly, does not enjoy spending time with her children. Her life revolves around her needs and wants, and filming. Even if every single one of those movies made her roll her eyes, I bet the kids would love them. Pure, escapist fun, after a long school year. They're herded to trip after trip, but a simple pleasure like a movie seems to be out of their mother's comfort zone. I hope they go with their dad, or their friends.
The last movie she mentioned going to was Paddington, and she tweeted about it -- as did Tori Spellig -- so we connected those dots and realized it was a freebie.
Tucker's Mom (#148), your comment reminded me of the Ronald McDonald House episode, where TFW is seen writing a check to donate to them. If y -- That was scripted as well. Who knows, it might have been similar to what was reported about the Duggar's food donation to a needy family. They loaded bags of groceries into the car, when the filming stopped, they took the bags out of the family's car and put them back in their own car. Kate's never been the donate-ish type of person, I doubt she gave $ to RMc house. She can't even donate clothing that her kids have outgrown (which was donated to HER). I bet the recent garage sale she put on with TLC's help, was stuff that had been donated to her at one point as well. She doesn't have a generous bone in her body.
Anon this time said... 168 ****** Wow, very powerful. I sense a great deal of strength from your post. Thank you.
The "8" will fracture someday, I'm sure, and I think the biggest reason will be because of Kate's nasty, sour and aggressive attitude towards their (yep, still living and parenting) father.
I believe the ones who move away and stop filming will fare the best. I'm sure there will be a couple who stick close to Kate, for her approval and money.
Good luck to Kate and Jon, when those kids grow up and go their own ways, marry and have children of their own. They will probably never all be in the same room at the same time.
localyocul said... 170 My sister has four kids; one in middle school, one in a high school, one in one college and one in another. I've always said having them at the same age is easier than having them spread out. July 3, 2015 at 8:13 AM
***** I've thought that, too. Try being pregnant, bloated, sick, cankled and chasing around 2.3 or 4 other toddlers and little kids! Now that's hard.
Helped you what? This has to be one the strangest tweets ever.
How on earth has Kate helped Milo when 1) they've never met 2) Kate barely acknowledges Milo existence to the point that Milo regularly pouts about being ignored and 3) Kate doesn't help anyone but herself.
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I was thinking that she meant that Kate has helped her just by being Kate...an inspiration, great parent, encouraging Milo to remain positive despite her physical limitations (Kate running, being strong in the face of adversity, lol!), never giving up, kind of an "emotional" supportive help.
I remember when Milo was in a tweeting frenzy and absolutely giddy in excitement when she picked up her rescue dog on Kate's birthday. It had to be on Kate's birthday, the time was critical. Fans and non-fans alike actually thought that Milo was on her way to see Kate, and this is what Milo had implied. It seemed that Kate was genuinely worried that Milo would pay her a late night visit, and if I were Kate, that would have been my concern, too. It was a dead give-away that although Kate seems to have befriended Milo if only through the internet, she was very hesitant about what Milo was up to on Kate's birthday. I believe that Kate knows more about Milo than Milo thinks that she knows (If that makes any sense).
I just have a hard time understanding how someone could be so dependent on a stranger's attentions and so lacking in personal integrity that they define themselves by the actions of said stranger.
That's gotta be a very sad existence.
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Yes, and either her family is too clueless to recognize this, or they just don't care.
Angie (#178), yes, I'd forgotten about the consignment stuff. So this woman got things donated to her, and then turned around and sold it. There's something so unsavory about that to me -- like it's not far removed from stealing. Remember when she said she planned to "pay it forward?" It's on film somewhere. Perhaps she meant in her next life.
This so-called single mom of 8 children recently admitted to splurging on monthly spa visits for her mental health. How many people who put money in the basket during her "love offerings" days indulge themselves that way? And how many of them have way more challenging lives than TFW?
Ohhh dear, poor Kate, 2 different schools. We had 7 children who were in private school, and here the schools are gender divided as well as age. So I had to deliver and pick the kids to 5 different locations as we don't have school buses, pre-school, junior girls, junior boys, senior girls and senior boys.
LOL!! I know the feeling. Until our four were all in the same school, I had to do the same thing with them in different schools. I spent three and a half hours on the road every day, just delivering them and retrieving them from school.
What drove me insane were the snow days, some kids with no school, some with delays (all different starting and dismissal times), trying to be in several places at one time. I actually had to sit down and construct a time chart on those days, figuring out who starts at what time, when to leave, what order to take them. Kate has absolutely no idea what that's like. Can you imagine the "woe is me" blog that would come out of a situation like that?
I love how we have a good handful of Canadians here. What is it about Canada that makes people so nice and so cool? Seriously, never met a Canadian that was nice. Maybe it's the air up there!
I'm willing to bet Kate has already made arrangements for someone else to chauffeur Collin back and forth to his new school. No way in hell is she going to be making runs to two different bus pickup locations/schools by herself.
redbird, something about you reminds me of my mom. You have a soft heart but I wish you weren't so invested because it seems to anger you quickly ====== This was said kindly and I appreciate it. I do get angry too quick some time but I do have a big ole heart. Some times my situation, being in the NH, reading about you alls lifes going on makes me feel even worse. I can't go any place on my own. I see my grands when the ds bring them. Don't know when Ill see my new baby gd. I have my tv and computer. I read my Bible daily and the pastor or an elder comes by once a week. That is my only for sure visitor. And the staff, they aren't family and since the stealing incident, some aren't as nice as they once were. Sometimes I am so depressed. I feel terribly I came across the wrong way.
Sometimes I am so depressed. I feel terribly I came across the wrong way. ****************************** Never feel that way! You've got spunk and attitude and yes, a good heart. So what if you get a bit invested, you've got something other than your situation to focus on. It's all good!!
This so-called single mom of 8 children recently admitted to splurging on monthly spa visits for her mental health. How many people who put money in the basket during her "love offerings" days indulge themselves that way? And how many of them have way more challenging lives than TFW? July 3, 2015 at 10:24 AM ******************************** Grrrrr! Yes, how that pisses me off. For her mental health? It ain't workin' bitch
Who knows, it might have been similar to what was reported about the Duggar's food donation to a needy family. They loaded bags of groceries into the car, when the filming stopped, they took the bags out of the family's car and put them back in their own car. ******************************** Now really? How in the world did they think the story wouldn't get out? Why in the hell would they even conceive of taking back the groceries? Are they smoking something?
OT I would rather have a millionaire business man in the Oval office than a Community Organizer who never made payroll. Look how many people are unemployed and how much debt the country owes. Just sayin'
reader said... 173 The key to an on going adult relationship with Kate Kreifer Gosselin, is never getting your way, never demanding your wants or needs. *************************\
You got that one right. It's a one way street with her.
"I was thinking that she meant that Kate has helped her just by being Kate...an inspiration, great parent, encouraging Milo to remain positive despite her physical limitations (Kate running, being strong in the face of adversity, lol!), never giving up, kind of an "emotional" supportive help."
Well, perhaps. I'll reiterate what I said though...it's gotta be a sad existence when you look toward a loser like Kate for inspiration and emotional support.
There is nothing about Kate that is worth admiring or respecting, IMO, and if there ever was it got swallowed up by her enormous, twisted ego.
Kate can't seem to get through a day (while she's home with her kids) without publicly complaining about how rough her life is while patting herself on the back at the same time.
I suppose to her credit though, she will occasionally allow her fans to do the patting and praising for her. She's just gracious and generous that way.
Reader said: The key to an on going adult relationship with Kate Kreifer Gosselin, is never getting your way, never demanding your wants or needs. -------- 100% true. It also helps if you start to believe that you want or need exactly what she does so you end up doing all kinds of things you have no interest in just to keep the peace.
redbird, please don't worry about coming across the wrong way! I enjoy your posts & don't want you to feel you can't express yourself here. TFW gets to all of us!
redbird: We love you here, and I'm so sorry to hear how difficult life is for you. You seem to manage quite well in the communication and humor department! When bad things happen, it's human to ask why, and why to a good person. I don't know. Luck is random. I'm glad you are on this forum and hope things look up for you somehow soon.
Ms Common Sense said... 192 OT I would rather have a millionaire business man in the Oval office than a Community Organizer who never made payroll. Look how many people are unemployed and how much debt the country owes. Just sayin'
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The country has less debt under the "Community Organizer" (also law professor and member of Congress, but we won't mention that) than it did under his predecessor. It also has a lower rate of unemployment than when Bush left office and more jobs created than under Bush, but don't let facts get in the way of slamming President Obama.
Redbird -I always enjoy your posts and it's only human nature to ask "why me". You don't seem to do it very often. I just wish I was in the same state because it would be my pleasure to visit with you.
1715 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1715 Newer› Newest»I don't think Alexis had any friend at the sleep over. There were four girls, but I think two of them belonged to that heavy set dark haired woman, and were not friends. At breakfast, Hannah and Leah rushed to grab a seat, each with a friend. Alexis was left out..she moved down to where her mother was at, and those two smaller girls were sitting with Kate,and didn't really acknowledge Alexis in any way, or move over so she could sit with them..so I really doubt either girl was a friend of hers.
Formerly Duped said... 198
Also Kate was pointing out to disinterested tups they 'we" are in Wikipedia and "we" are on the cover of Korean-Am magazine etc...
With the way the girl tups are acting no wonder Mady's nose is out of joint. They are now louder and more sarcastic and argumentative than she is. She seemed to be seething with jealousy while Cara was like, whatever you say...I wonder why the twins had their makeup and hair done in this special and not the others? The 'little' girls will soon be into all that.They were arguing on the couch who was prettiest.
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Please tell me they were on the cover of a Korean magazine with their father!
Cara definitely got her dad's laid back genes.
The tup girls already get their hair did for their interviews. No way they do finger curls themselves, in fact, do they even have a damn dresser in their room?
Poor Colin. How is it that we've only seen him being passive, quiet, polite, obedient and she says HE has trouble controlling impulses etc.?
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He looked totally zoned out on the couch with his brothers even yawning at one point. Don't jump all over me but I'm thinking medication.
As for the child count Kate said 16 kids. That's one friend each for the tups, C&M's friend that seems to go everywhere with them and Lori's little girl (who didn't seem to be included in anything). So there's your 16. I think where Kate screwed up on the beds was that she failed to take into account the bed for the chaperones. If they were two bedroom suites one bedroom was designated for the adult. Just because the room says "sleeps up to 6 or 8" doesn't mean that there are that many beds.
REWRITING HISTORY! yeah, what a mind f$#$%
It's going to be the way she says it was, there will be no arguing with her, even with footage to prove her wrong. You will never win with a narc, never.
I wish he had said, "I also remember the girls getting to eat their cupcakes. What's up with that, you bitch?"
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Total gaslighting. Oh, it wasn't *that* bad!
The girls get away with murder in that house. I still can't get over how Kate totally ignores their physical aggression.
It was the Can Do house manual episode. The kids were told not to touch some hot water hoses (pressure washer?). The kids were tooling around in their cars, and C wanted to go over the hoses--the other kids were all driving back and forth over them. C was looking all over for TFW, with this worried look on his little face. That look just broke my heart. No little boy should live in that kind of fear, which, as we know, is completely appropriate to the situation.
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I remember that well. He's such a sweet boy.
To me, just from watching here and there, he seems to have actually come a long way since the school incident.
I hope that his new school restores his spirit, and that Jon gets more time with him.
He desperately needs that.
Ex Nurse said... 200
Excellent post. There is a match out there for Collin, a place and or person that can help him. The trick sometimes is finding it. If a good school/therapist/mentor doesn't fall in her lap, I don't think she'll put out the extra effort to find what's best for him that it often takes for the parent of a special needs child. She produced 8 kids but the eons of bed rest and pounds of bacon couldn't bring out any maternal instincts. She just doesn't have an abundant supply.
Her rigidity, the "and that's never going to change" stubbornness is the worst attitude to have. Kate is completely inflexible and she brags about it. Her rules will never change, her parenting style will never change (her freaking French manicure will never chage!). That certainly will do no good for Collin. She expects HIM to adapt. She is incapable of understanding that she may have to do some adapting as well. She may have to be educated about his behaviors. Kate be educated? Collin's future teachers/therapists better know how to help HER!!
IMO that chaotic household is the worst environment for Collin. I'm very sad for him.
I don't think that everything can be laid at the feet of TFW. Learning differences can happen in the best of families, as do behavioral problems. But, she certainly created a culture of fear and shame, that is so damaging to his self-esteem. And her Alcatrazish theory of child-rearing is a nightmare for a sensitive boy, who, clearly lives in fear of his mother, while desperately needing her love and approval.
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Agree. It's no one's fault when a child has special needs and it happens all the time. What can be controlled is the reaction to it, and I have a sense Kate is capitulating to get Colin into a different school because she has to.
I bet Colin should have been redirected to another school and not have been forced to stick with the 6-pack. But, Kate's not proactive.
She won't do or teach before the time is needed and she's got no other choice.
Remember when they all got another pair of velcro school shoes because Kate couldn't be bothered teaching them to tie their own darn shoes?
I had to pick my mouth up off the floor when I saw that.
Well, that and Kate's skanky outfit she saw fit to don for back to schools shopping.
Sue, I think Alexis introduced 'her' friend but she did seem on her own at breakfast. Maybe her friend had to leave early as Kate said some kids did.
I also thought meds a while ago when Collin changed from being a boisterous sturdy child to a very thin quiet child.But that also come from constant beating down, figuratively and literally.
Tucker, Kate flashed a photo of just the kids if I saw that right, but I don't know what it's from- I see there is a KoreAm magazine; as usual Kate got the name wrong I guess.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 2
Virginia Pen Mom (#197), Gladys thinks as long as she puts an
"LOL" after her passive/aggressive comments, no one will see
through her. But we can. And she does NOT want TFW to have
a boyfriend. When the Jeff Millionaire buzz began, she seemed
upset, and tweeted again and again that we don't know if it's true
or not.
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Gladys reminds me of the baby bird I'm watching at the window feeder.
It's chirping like crazy with its "bird lips" so that Daddy gives him food.
Kate! Kate! Don't forget about me! I need attention!
BTW, has Kate followed Gladys on Twitter yet??
Oh wait- it's the cover of 2008 of the whole family, both parents. Why would Kate show it now?? It;s says Full House on the cover. KoreAm magazine
FlimsyFlamsy said... 2
Virginia Pen Mom (#197), Gladys thinks as long as she puts an
"LOL" after her passive/aggressive comments, no one will see
through her. But we can. And she does NOT want TFW to have
a boyfriend. When the Jeff Millionaire buzz began, she seemed
upset, and tweeted again and again that we don't know if it's true
or not. And all the "grow-a-boyfriend" jokes that fell flat, but she
kept 'em coming. She thinks as long as TFW is alone, she can
be there for her as a support system, and be wanted and
needed. (sings "Friends" theme) "I'll be there for you, when
the rain starts to pour!" Except that song ends with, "'Cause
you're there for me, too!" And that is not the case with TFW.
It is not a reciprocal friendship. It is a one-sided obsession
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Flimsy, you are exactly right! I think Gladys WANTS us to believe she wants Kate to find a "lights out man" but in actuality, she does not.
(What the heck was "grow a boyfriend," anyway? I never figured that out.)
What would happen if Kate deleted her Twitter? Gladys's withdrawals would not be pretty. She'd probably hang around on Twitter, defending TFW to the air. And weeping.
I think it's great that so many of Gladys's deleted tweets are preserved here. And thank you, Kate is a Twit, for documenting the hypocrisy!
Would someone PLEASE get out a violin and play some background music for poor old Milo the Martyr. Because her queen isn't getting it! Milo needs to be recognized NOW.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 13h13 hours ago
Sure not getting any love here tonight. Haters abound. My last thought courtesy Dr. Steve.. pic.twitter.com/ZyExDamge4 @TLC @Kateplusmy8
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 12h12 hours ago
@MiloandJack @TLC @Kateplusmy8 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘👏👏👏👍👍👍
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Thank you for your kindness....not too many folks care much anymore. Some days I feel like the #LastGirlStanding...
8:29 AM - 2 Jul 2015
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 13h13 hours ago
Sure not getting any love here tonight. Haters abound. My last thought courtesy Dr. Steve.. @TLC @Kateplusmy8
[The poster says: Of course people have insulted me… that’s just the reality of living a life in which you stand out. Does it bother me? No. Those people overestimate the weight I give their opinion. I’m just going to be me, unapologetically. You don’t have to applaud, you don’t have to cheer… but I know you’re watching."]
The proverbial chicken before the egg.
Are Colin's issues a product of his environment or is it genetics? Does he have these issues as a result of the abuse? As a toddler, I certainly didn't see anything amiss, but then I don't have any qualifications do I? But I did see him being treated harshly and know he was abused violently for normal childhood behavior. What I'm trying to say is SHE the cause of his learning social disabilities?
BTW, has Kate followed Gladys on Twitter yet??
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Kate's been following her on twitter ever since Milo tweeted the play-by-play of Kate running the San Diego half marathon in June 2012.
I'm sure there are many times Kate has regretted that decision.
Formerly Duped said... 12
Oh wait- it's the cover of 2008 of the whole family, both parents. Why would Kate show it now?? It;s says Full House on the cover. KoreAm magazine
July 2, 2015 at 8:21 AM
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I wonder if she was wearing her plastic Sumo wig and making slanty eyes with her fingers.
Vanessa said... 15
The proverbial chicken before the egg.
Are Colin's issues a product of his environment or is it genetics? Does he have these issues as a result of the abuse? As a toddler, I certainly didn't see anything amiss, but then I don't have any qualifications do I? But I did see him being treated harshly and know he was abused violently for normal childhood behavior. What I'm trying to say is SHE the cause of his learning social disabilities?
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I think Colin internalizes everything. He's very sensitive, and Robert's accounts of his interactions with him as a little boy are endearing.
I would hope that Kate shows him extra tenderness and kindness, but I sort of doubt it.
He doesn't reflect well on her and I think she lets him know it.
Milo still playing the "poor me" card:
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES · 14m14 minutes ago
@MiloandJack 😘 I will always care and it kills me to see the bullies psychotic obsession with you. 😥😥
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES · 5m5 minutes ago
@MiloandJack You don't need to leave, because that's exactly what they want, breaks maybe but never dessert your friends. 😘😘😘
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1m1 minute ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Sometimes best 2just walk away! Not abandoning anyone, my feelings remain the same. Haters will miss me more than anyone else.
Milo's ego is just as big as Kate's. And is she implying that Kate would not miss her if she left twitter?
It looks like this episode was a win-win for Kate the abuser. The kids brought the drama. Yelling, pushing and misbehaving not at home but in a hotel. Viewers are getting what they like to watch and that is a bunch of obnoxious kids.
Kate gets $40,000 (?) to have her kids viewed by one million households probably encouraged by TLC to be at their worst behavior .
And like a cherry on top Kate gets praised for learning to chill out and be more passive by the entertainment media. Everyone has to remember that Kate has raised those kids ALL by herself.
Maybe that was the theme of the episode not the birthday party. And the kids were used like tools.
Ah, it came to me finally. The word I was looking for- for Colin.
Empath.
He's an empath.
They go to the clip of him saying this and only this short clip.
Aaden smiles and "yes"
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But in that episode, on the couch interview, they said that Aaden had forgotten all about the cupcakes and it really wasn't important (or something like that). Now she asks him if he remembers it and he says that he did.
And like a cherry on top Kate gets praised for learning to chill out and be more passive by the entertainment media. Everyone has to remember that Kate has raised those kids ALL by herself.
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If Kate was still selling the kids' free clothing, she wouldn't be chilling out.
I wouldn't say she's more laid back, rather, she appears checked out.
She's just not into trying anymore and is doing the minimum to get by.
And I still can't get over feeding grapes and cheese on paper plates STILL!
She seemed to be seething with jealousy while Cara was like, whatever you say...I wonder why the twins had their makeup and hair done in this special and not the others? The 'little' girls will soon be into all that.They were arguing on the couch who was prettiest.
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I think in another four or five years, Mady will be very attractive, if not stunning because of her "exotic" looks. Kate will have her hands full with vetting boyfriends and whatever. Of course, Mady will need a major attitude adjustment, but physically, she will be a knock-out. Just my opinion, of course, but she has the bone structure, the dark eyes, nice hair to grow into quite a looker.
If she really cared about Kate as she claimed, she'd be happy to see that she had new life on her twitter because of an episode. Instead, she hates that Kate might not notice her, her, her for 60 minutes.
Milo's obsession is bizarre, lustful, creepy and not a little frightening. I also think she could turn on her.
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She's not just a little frightening. She's downright scary. It's funny that the sheeple are always bringing up the "jelus" card about the haters when it's the Chief Ewe who is without a doubt jealous of any fans who might get more attention than she does.
Mady is going to be stunning. She's also going to be a silly woman like her mother.
And Mommy had a rule to never enter her
bedroom, but now it seems to be Disney Channel Slumber
Party Central, as long as you're not an icky boy.
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Right. She broke that rule, didn't she? Now it's obvious the reason that rule existed was because the marriage was over, Jon was sleeping in the garage apartment and she didn't want any of the kids in the bedroom because they would see that their daddy wasn't in the bedroom with their mother.
Once Jon was out of the picture, that penalty of severeness was lifted because there was no reason to keep up the deception that the couple was happily married in Kate's new "mine, all mine" paradise.
Kate will not show any extra or attention on Collin. It's going to be all his fault, that she has another school drop off, another school to deal with, maybe even frequent IEP meetings that she must be present at and hopefully Jon demands to attend these meetings. Collins will ruin her free time. If he's not in another private school, he may get to wear street clothes and not a uniform. If she could find a way, I am sure she's rather have him shipped off to a boarding facility.
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I won't comment on Mady's looks but I think it's one of the tup girls who will be the stunner of the family, if any will be.The other two are cute but average. But a lot can happen during adolescence.And yes, personality/manners count so they better all shape up in that department.
Once Jon was out of the picture, that penalty of severeness was lifted because there was no reason to keep up the deception that the couple was happily married in Kate's new "mine, all mine" paradise.
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Banning the kids from the bedroom was a ruse to keep the kids in the dark about their Daddy living in the garage apartment.
Can you imagine if those kids blabbed about that on film?
I think Cara is beautiful. Hope she stays natural and accepts herself as she is.
But in that episode, on the couch interview, they said that Aaden had forgotten all about the cupcakes and it really wasn't important (or something like that). Now she asks him if he remembers it and he says that he did.
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As far as Mady being stunning or not, I don't think it'll matter one bit if
the way she treats people doesn't change. I thougth tfw "was" stunning in the beginning, in her first wedding picture, she looks like Fait Hill. Even with all the modifying she's done, she probably is considered stunning (by some) on the SURFACE (since I know she'll read this and only see stunning!) Means nothing if you have an ugly soul.
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See but you know Kate . You know she hasn't chilled at all. All of us that have watched Kate for years know that she will never change. She will forever be the bitch that she is.
Tucker's Mom you think Maddy is going to be stunning? I don't see it. And I'm not being critical it's just an observation. As she gets older she's not that pretty. And I feel bad about saying that... The one that I think is going to be a real looker is Alexis.
But ultimately Kate will decide who is going to be the prettiest by investing money ( hair, dermatologist , teeth, clothes and maybe plastic surgery) so that child or more can continue to be on television.
Kendall Jenner has had her eyes, nose, and chin redefined . And look where she is now! I'm sure Kate is watching the Kardashians closely.
You can be a looker but personality counts. Being a teen is tough and awkward, but I do not care for the behavior at present. Kind of gives you a window into Kate's adolescence. No wonder she gave her parents trouble.
I agree with comment about exotic looks. I have a friend whose daughters are half Hawaiian. Beautiful girls but they are very nice people.
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I don't think that everything can be laid at the feet of TFW. Learning differences can happen in the best of families, as do behavioral problems.
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I disagree. She's had 11, count 'em, 11 years to acknowledge that there is a problem and in order to protect her precious self she denied it. If that child needs help (and that's a big IF) she's wasted one hell of a lot of time to get it for him. I believe the emotional damage is all laid squarely at her sick feet.
And let's not forget the physical abuse either. She's doing it all alone, remember. Can't blame Jon for this one. He's the absentee parent, after all. Right sheeple?
The sooner he gets away from her vile, evil self, the better.
ITA about the master bedroom. However, she was dumb to think the kids did not sense anything. I remember how absurd it was that she made a big deal about the kids not entering the bedroom. It was uncalled for and just plain odd.
I have an adopted nephew. We knew from about the age of 4 that the child had some issues. His mother, a teacher, wouldn't hear of it and refused to acknowledge that there was anything wrong. Know when she had him tested? When he finished high school and was going into University. It was only when it got to the point that SHE could no longer do his homework for him that there was a problem. As an adult he's doing okay, but really? Look at all the years that kid struggled before he got help.
If the kids needed help, I would bet my last dollar that the authorities have been saying it for years. Meanwhile, she continued with the "top-of-their-class denial. Even when she held those kids back from starting kindergarten, who benefitted? Oh, that's right, she did. More filming. She did a disservice to all of those kids.
Bitch.
tfw had no business becoming a mother, a mother to EIGHT kids and even more so, the mother of a special needs kid (if indeed that's the case)
Agree with you PJ, he just needs to get completely away from her. She could never tolerate anyone questioning her parenting, she cut anyone and everyone off when they did. How the hell do you think it'll work out when she has professionals giving her crucial instructions, techniques? When HER way will be critiqued and corrected? She's a lazy mother period, she will not put in the effort required. Get him out of there.
I remember how absurd it was that she made a big deal about the kids not entering the bedroom. It was uncalled for and just plain odd.
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But she does so many odd things, I really wonder if the children sensed something wasn't quite right. I would believe that they were used to her eccentric ways, and just thought...okay, the bedroom is off limits.
I'm signing off for a few days but I just want to wish everyone a very happy 4th of July!! Especially the pool ladies (gents). You guys have done a marvelous job!! I know it's a lot of work but know you're appreciated !
And for those that are Canadians hope you also have a great weekend!
Has anyone found the ratings for Tueday's show? I checked but I didn't see anything in the top 100. Sorry if this has been discussed, hard to track with all the comments.
And let's not forget the physical abuse either. She's doing it all alone, remember. Can't blame Jon for this one. He's the absentee parent, after all. Right sheeple?
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Exactly. Good point. They are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they want to claim that Jon never sees the children or cares about them, then this issue with Collin is all Kate's doing since she's the sole caregiver. For them to blame Jon, they'd have to admit that he does see the children, he's an active parent in their lives, and any issues Collin may have are Jon's fault. Then, of course, they'd have to admit that Kate isn't raising these kids all by herself.
Never mind, I found them. Ranked 38 1,034 viewers. .27 for 18-49 age group. Lost 400,000 from The Little Couple.
I agree with comment about exotic looks. I have a friend whose daughters are half Hawaiian. Beautiful girls but they are very nice people.
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I've always been confused about this. Is Hawaiian a race or ethnicity, or is the race Polynesian?
Tucker's Mom you think Maddy is going to be stunning? I don't see it. And I'm not being critical it's just an observation. As she gets older she's not that pretty. And I feel bad about saying that...
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I totally disagree. Mady will be gorgeous. Just wait and see! :)
Alexis will be cute, cheerleader cute, but Mady will be the one who turns heads.
Formerly Duped said... 29
Blowing In The Wind said... 24
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I won't comment on Mady's looks but I think it's one of the tup girls who will be the stunner of the family, if any will be.The other two are cute but average. But a lot can happen during adolescence.And yes, personality/manners count so they better all shape up in that department.
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Don't tell me, that same tup girl that reminds Kate of Kate?
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For them to blame Jon, they'd have to admit that he does see the children, he's an active parent in their lives, and any issues Collin may have are Jon's fault. Then, of course, they'd have to admit that Kate isn't raising these kids all by herself.
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I can see them blaming Jon for NOT being present. And rest assured that bitch will also blame it on Jon NOT being a good father, provider etc etc etc
She will never own any part in her children's dysfunction. never
Kate gets $40,000 (?) to have her kids viewed by one million households probably encouraged by TLC to be at their worst behavior .
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I really doubt that TLC had to do any encouraging for them to be at their worst behavior. They are not actors. I think that what you saw is what happens at home.
Even when she held those kids back from starting kindergarten, who benefitted? Oh, that's right, she did. More filming. She did a disservice to all of those kids.
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I think it's a hard decision to split kids up, but I would have done it in a heartbeat.
I also would dress them differently and never insist they all wear the same thing.
That's all about the mother's ego.
TLC stinks said... 37
ITA about the master bedroom. However, she was dumb to think the kids did not sense anything. I remember how absurd it was that she made a big deal about the kids not entering the bedroom. It was uncalled for and just plain odd.
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I remember feeling really sorry for them. There they are in a big, new house and Mommy said NEVER EVER come into my room.
What if they were scared? Had nightmares?
Total gaslighting. Oh, it wasn't *that* bad!
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Right, plus: a very public reminder that the children have no control over the narrative that she and TLC perpetuate. "I'm in charge and that's never gonna change" (not even when they mature, I'm betting)
But ultimately Kate will decide who is going to be the prettiest by investing money ( hair, dermatologist , teeth, clothes and maybe plastic surgery) so that child or more can continue to be on television.
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I don't know about putting kids through braces (although DH just got his off!), but does anyone know of a reason why the boys haven't even started yet??
As far as Mady being stunning or not, I don't think it'll matter one bit if
the way she treats people doesn't change. I thougth tfw "was" stunning in the beginning, in her first wedding picture, she looks like Fait Hill. Even with all the modifying she's done, she probably is considered stunning (by some) on the SURFACE (since I know she'll read this and only see stunning!) Means nothing if you have an ugly soul.
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Kate is naturally pretty.
I can see botoxing the "11's" out, but the rest of it is starting to take a toll on her face.
I actually don't think she's that pretty anymore.
Eye-catching with her whitey-white teeth, deep tan, long blonde hair and big tatas?
Yes.
But a pretty woman?
No.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.
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Oh my, someone has an over-inflated opinion of themselves! Yes Milo, the "haters" keep "vanilla" file folders filled with your obsequious slaverings to Kate.
Is Collin seeing Jon again, and does anyone know why he stopped seeing him in the first place? Collin needs to be shown unconditional love, which does not come from Kate, obviously. To be the outcast, to be under that constant stress seems to have made him withdrawn and sad. If he had some reassurance from his father Collin may at least have a chance of feeling better about himself.
If we are feeling this degree of concern about him, imagine how Jon and the kids extended family are feeling. I always hope there are steps being taken in the background to bring some balance to their lives.
I was just thinking about C's new school situation. What if he's given
a lot more homework? Will TFW "release" him from his chores, or
will she let him fall behind at school? And if TFW has to drive to
and from 2 different schools (or one school and one bus stop),
it might eat into her precious going-back-to-bed routine. I think
it's safe to assume C will incur her wrath even more frequently.
We saw her mock him when he gave her a gift, for pete's sake --
how resentful will she be when his issues mean a daily
disruption of her routine?
I think it's a hard decision to split kids up, but I would have done it in a heartbeat.
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Of course you would, as I believe most of us here would as well. More proof she does not see them as individuals with their own personalities and needs. She really was dumbfounded when Colin gave her the Momma bear and cub. "where's everyone else?" She really can't grasp that Colin is a PERSON. ONE person. That her children are INDIVIDUALS. And she lumps them together (or boys vs girls) for HER agenda, HER needs and HER wants. It's all to be convenient for her,or to feed her black soul. As PJ said, ELEVEN YEARS?? She refused to believe or acknowledge his issues (and hers) until there was no squirming out of it. There's no connection with her kids other than they prop HER up or they are the root of her "meltdowns"
Kate is naturally pretty.
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Kate was naturally pretty. WAS
Watching the old footage from the link franky provided you REALLY see how she's morphed into ugly. The receding hairline is VERY apparent. Her hair was so thick healthy and shiny back then. Her complexion was clear and glowing.. She's just gross now. Dirty
Let's throw tomatoes said... 41
I'm signing off for a few days but I just want to wish everyone a very happy 4th of July!! Especially the pool ladies (gents). You guys have done a marvelous job!! I know it's a lot of work but know you're appreciated !
And for those that are Canadians hope you also have a great weekend!
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Have a great break-hope to "see" you soon!
And Mommy had a rule to never enter her bedroom, but now it seems to be Disney Channel Slumber Party Central, as long as you're not an icky boy.
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I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps.
Kate is naturally pretty.
I can see botoxing the "11's" out, but the rest of it is starting to take a toll on her face.
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Sorry, meant to write "Kate was" naturally pretty. Yes, she did look like Faith Hill at her wedding.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.
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haha, nope! A different tup. Sheeple often comment all the kids look like Kate- don't see that either. And I guess we all have an opinion about Mady but maybe it's hard for me to see past her nastiness.
AuntieAnn said... 61
And Mommy had a rule to never enter her bedroom, but now it seems to be Disney Channel Slumber Party Central, as long as you're not an icky boy.
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I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps.
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LOL! hahaha Or Dracula's coffin
haha, nope! A different tup. Sheeple often comment all the kids look like Kate- don't see that either. And I guess we all have an opinion about Mady but maybe it's hard for me to see past her nastiness.
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The only kid I think looks like tfw is Colin. He's got her eyes and nose.
If we are feeling this degree of concern about him, imagine how Jon and the kids extended family are feeling. I always hope there are steps being taken in the background to bring some balance to their lives.
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I'm sure that Jon and others, like Jodi and Kevin, are emotional about what Colin's going through and the kids being forced to film still.
What do I know but-- I would think that Colin's needs are not served by filming and making his struggles public and viewed by millions.
You'd think that it's common sense that Jon could win an argument before a judge, that he get this child off tv.
But who knows. The courts don't seem fair at times.
I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps.
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Ensconced in her tanned arms and French tips!
See how Gladys is associating herself with TFW in that tweet?
How the haters' file about her is as big as the one they have
on TFW? Two peas in a pod, they are! Instead of Single
White Female, I think I'd label this Single White Freakshow.
Ph without the D is still around -- guess her days weren't really
"numbered" as she claimed a few months ago. All these people
ought to invest in some index cards to keep handy, so they can
keep track of their lies. They can make different categories:
health, job, family, friends, etc. Just a friendly suggestion
from a bitter, black-hearted busybody!
it might eat into her precious going-back-to-bed routine.
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I can only imagine the pity party Kate will give herself.
Wish Collin could read of our support here. But since he loves his mother, 'even though' so many things...probably not a good idea.
I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps.
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LOL! hahaha Or Dracula's coffin
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Perhaps she sleeps in a sarcophagus in her locked closet.
Kate is not naturally pretty. She was not naturally pretty. She had a small period of time when she was pretty: when she just started the plastic surgery (chin implant), tummy tuck and before the lipo and weight loss followed by horrible stringy hair and too many procedures to count. Now she's scary looking, like a witch crossed with a Donkey
I would think that Colin's needs are not served by filming and making his struggles public and viewed by millions
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No kidding. A teacher or school would be held accountable if they enabled this type of scrutiny and commentary. It's an open invitation to bullying.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/dylann-roof-sister-amber-roof-starts-go-fund-me-campaign-wedding-honeymoon/
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I know we've talked about Go Fund Me accounts before, but this one really takes the (wedding) cake!
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/dylann-roof-sister-amber-roof-starts-go-fund-me-campaign-wedding-honeymoon/
Click
A little Canada Day fun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_-MsDSAW0Y
Love the apology for Celine Dionne! :)
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.
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LOL, Vanessa!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h3 hours ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Sometimes best 2just walk away! Not abandoning anyone, my feelings remain the same. Haters will miss me more than anyone else.
Uh oh. Trouble in Miloville. Milo's threatening to walk?? Come on, Kate, beg her to stay! She's feeling sorry for herself today because she's been a martyr for Kate and Kate doesn't appreciate her.
"Haters will miss me more than anyone else"? That almost sounds like a Kate slam. Wonder if the Colin situation is actually hard for even Milo to defend? Nah, couldn't be.
I do wonder how Milo mentally defends the fact that some of the kids are obviously out of control, sassy and with discipline and self-control issues. After all, Kate "did it all." Now, who's to blame? Not Jon, right?
What if Milo suddenly saw the light and needs a graceful way out?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30
Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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I would think 11 yr olds would know not to manhandle and run with a tiny bird? And kids downstairs with just the camera man?
AuntieAnn said...
I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps.
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Just don't feed her after midnight and for God's sake don't get her wet. OMG! I just stumbled on the reason for her meltdowns whenever she's near water!
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Really? I don't see any resemblance between Collin and TFW. Collin does have that droopy lid and Kate has a wonky eye, but otherwise, not alike to me. But we all see things differently :)
Now she's scary looking, like a witch crossed with a Donkey
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Vanessa said... 78
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30
Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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I would think 11 yr olds would know not to manhandle and run with a tiny bird? And kids downstairs with just the camera man?
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I hope nothing happens to that bird. Zorro seems like an incredibly sweet birdie.
I do wonder what Kate's going to do when the kids grow up and she's got the bird to herself.
Maybe one of the kids will take him.
Tucker's Mom said... 72
I always thought (and still do) it was because she hangs upside down from the rafters when she sleeps.
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Good Lord, I'd hate to stumble across that and open it! Might get turned into stone.
Formerly Duped said... 79
Vanessa said... 66
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Really? I don't see any resemblance between Collin and TFW. Collin does have that droopy lid and Kate has a wonky eye, but otherwise, not alike to me. But we all see things differently :)
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So true. People say the same about our kids, there's no unanimous opinion on which kid looks like which parent.
Where I really saw it was in the fuckity millionth day of bedrest for her vaseline'd saran wrapped clown car trunk.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.
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BYE Felicia.
I can't imagine Milo going away. It would leave a huge hole in her life and Milo would lose her own identity. She thinks she and Kate are soulmates and so alike. They suffer the same slings and arrows, are vilified by the same people, poor misunderstood women waging an uphill battle together day in and day out with only Milo's daily platitudes to get them through each cold, cruel day. Milo could never let her soulmate down.
chefsummer #Leh said... 85
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4m4 minutes ago
@MY_2BCOLLIES Yeah...they keep a file on me as big as the one they have 4Kate. LOL Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.
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BYE Felicia.
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Buh bye
Sue_Buddy said... 86
I can't imagine Milo going away. It would leave a huge hole in her life and Milo would lose her own identity. She thinks she and Kate are soulmates and so alike. They suffer the same slings and arrows, are vilified by the same people, poor misunderstood women waging an uphill battle together day in and day out with only Milo's daily platitudes to get them through each cold, cruel day. Milo could never let her soulmate down.
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I think we should just call Milo "Brokeback" from now on.
"Dagummit, Kate. I wish I knew how to quit you."
@RealZiggyFlo: Why is it OK 4 @Kateplusmy8 2 bring up her child's' issues but not Jon? Kate did so for positive informative purposes. Jon did it to attack.
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And now we know how the sheeple justify what TFW did.
And what a relief it is for Collin that TFW broadcast his problems on national TV...
@RealZiggyFlo: @Kateplusmy8 When a child has medical issue which isn't obvious it's more often than not a relief 4 them 4 those issues 2B made known.
NJGal51 said... 89
@RealZiggyFlo: Why is it OK 4 @Kateplusmy8 2 bring up her child's' issues but not Jon? Kate did so for positive informative purposes. Jon did it to attack.
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And now we know how the sheeple justify what TFW did.
July 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM
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Seriously. Jon was speaking out of concern that his children are not doing well because of filming and he wasn't attacking Kate. He was concerned.
It is, however, an indictment of her character, motives and moral compass.
"Dagummit, Kate. I wish I knew how to quit you."
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Hahahaha!
Milo...Time coming soon when it will be best 4me 2leave.???????
Leave what Milo? Someones twitter? Are you f'kn serious? Do you hear yourself? Are you waiting with bated breath for Kate to beg you
not to pack your bags and leave? You my dear girl are a full blown lunatic!
Yep lunacy at its best. I pray to god you are in a facility where your
family (if there is a family) can keep an eye on you.
@RealZiggyFlo: @Kateplusmy8 When a child has medical issue which isn't obvious it's more often than not a relief 4 them 4 those issues 2B made known.
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To be known to a million strangers??!! Is this woman insane? It is fine to let friends and family know, but strangers. Even children deserve privacy.
Tucker's Mom said... 88
I think we should just call Milo "Brokeback" from now on.
"Dagummit, Kate. I wish I knew how to quit you."
-----OMG, this is one of the funniest things I've read in a long time. *snort* lol, still laughing!!!
(and I think you're also the poster that called Kate 'the gift of the v-jay-jay', if I recall correctly!)
still laughing.........
(and btw, Brokeback is a beautifully written book)
I thought that both Joel and Aaden looked reeeeally uncomfortable when they were sitting on the couch next to their mom. And almost frightened of her. It was probably the most one-on-one attention they've had from her in awhile.
Vanessa (#78), so TFW is saying she's never seen the kids
running with Zorro before, so now it's a new rule. They've had
this pet for more than a year, but she's never seen that. Are we
to believe the kids never did it before now, and chose to do it
when there was a camera? Or is she really, truly, not often in
the same room as those kids -- especially her sons? It's a
bit late for the gestapo to be coming up with her never-changing
Mommy rules about this.
The other version is, the kids do it all the time, and it's never
occurred to her that it might harm the bird. Remember the
drive to school with Zorro flying free -- something she thought
so utterly harmless (and adorable!) that she wrote a blog post
about it? So she pretends they were gathered 'round the
TV like Ma Walton and her brood, and she saw the boys
running with the bird, and she said, "O, my sweet children,
you mustn't ever run with Zorro! He is a family member!
Now who wants popcorn and a surprise?"
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30
Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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Why the @TLC? Did they get complaints? Did someone call the ASPCA? I sure hope so. Too bad the kids don't get that same kind of care and attention.
@RealZiggyFlo: @Kateplusmy8 When a child has medical issue which isn't obvious it's more often than not a relief 4 them 4 those issues 2B made known.
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Based on which official study? Ziggy keeps proving what an idiot she is.
I do wonder what Kate's going to do when the kids grow up and she's got the bird to herself.
Maybe one of the kids will take him.
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Maybe one of the kids will flip her the bird on the way out.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30
Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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It wasn't the actual running that worried me - it was the fact that Aaden roughly grabbed the bird & was clutching it tightly in his fist while running & jumping around. The kids seem to think that Zorro is a toy. Ugh.
@RealZiggyFlo: Why is it OK 4 @Kateplusmy8 2 bring up her child's' issues but not Jon? Kate did so for positive informative purposes. Jon did it to attack.
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I wonder how long into the meeting the sheep were before they came up with this deflection gem? Was it past time for the Twinkies and Pepsi to be served and they all agreed to just go with this so they could mosey on over to the table?
Oh, and Milo? Don't let the door hit ya in the ass.
(and I think you're also the poster that called Kate 'the gift of the v-jay-jay', if I recall correctly!)
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Ah, the Gift of the Vagii ;-)
And Brokeback was robbed of Best Picture!!
What a wtf? moment!
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30
Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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Why the @TLC? Did they get complaints? Did someone call the ASPCA? I sure hope so. Too bad the kids don't get that same kind of care and attention.
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I bet Kate gave TLC a piece of her bleached mind when she saw that.
As a producer, she should be getting advanced copies of the episodes.
Doesn't appear so.
P.J. said... 79
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Just don't feed her after midnight and for God's sake don't get her wet. OMG! I just stumbled on the reason for her meltdowns whenever she's near water!
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haha! Stripe!
Today, several of us here referred to Milo as obsessed or having an obsession. (Flimsy and myself for two). So Milo definitely reads here.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 47m47 minutes ago
@Aimeecharlotte1 That's the reason I hang around. They call me obsessed...but I just have so much respect 4her! & she has helped me alot!
I think it was Joel who threw a pillow at Aaden when he was running with Zorro.Alexis also has been rough with the bird, and as for the painting episode...
Was glad to see, though, that the kids do seem to have nice close friendships with peers.
Hey. noticed Leah said "hour" for "our" instead of "R" in the last couch interview LOL
Tucker's Mom (#104), yes, a real producer would see a preview
of the show so she could give notes as it was being edited.
She'd get a link from someone at Figure 8 or TLC to the current
cut of the episode for her feedback. But I don't think TLC gives
a rat's behind what she thinks. She may be a blackbelt user,
but TLC absolutely has the upper hand in this relationship.
If she hadn't been foolish enough to repeatedly voice her utter desperation for work, she might have some more power.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 106
Today, several of us here referred to Milo as obsessed or having an obsession. (Flimsy and myself for two). So Milo definitely reads here.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 47m47 minutes ago
@Aimeecharlotte1 That's the reason I hang around. They call me obsessed...but I just have so much respect 4her! & she has helped me alot!
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Milo has blinders on when it comes to Kate. I think she's more silly than obsessed.
The haterz on Kate's twitter line are obsessed.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 108
Tucker's Mom (#104), yes, a real producer would see a preview
of the show so she could give notes as it was being edited.
She'd get a link from someone at Figure 8 or TLC to the current
cut of the episode for her feedback.
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What???? You mean she should actually w-w-w...w-w-w-...w-w-work?
She masterminds, she doesn't work. Didn't you watch CA where everyone had to step up or the job didn't get done?
Pj said....
I disagree. She's had 11, count 'em, 11 years to acknowledge that there is a problem and in order to protect her precious self she denied it. If that child needs help (and that's a big IF) she's wasted one hell of a lot of time to get it for him. I believe the emotional damage is all laid squarely at her sick feet.
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What are you disagreeing with? I only said that learning difficulties and behavior problems can happen in any family--it isn't necessarily caused by TFW. She is an atrocious, abusive and neglectful mother--on that I think we agree!
What???? You mean she should actually w-w-w...w-w-w-...w-w-work?
She masterminds, she doesn't work. Didn't you watch CA where everyone had to step up or the job didn't get done?
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But, but, but...Kate knows how to best portray her family.
Actually, I think Kate has no clue what's filmed much of the time. She gives the crew full access to her kids without supervision.
Ex-Nurse said...
I don't think that everything can be laid at the feet of TFW.
Ex-Nurse said...
What are you disagreeing with?
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That's what I'm disagreeing with. I think it can be laid at her feet. Denial, neglect, call it what you want. Nurture or Nature. I'm going with nurture although that was the furthest thing from reality in the house.
I am coming out from the verandah and going to do something I usually refuse to do, comment on Milo.
Milo, if you do read here and really are thinking about leaving twitter, please do it for you. It may not be your fault the way you are being perceived, but admit, your over-the-top tweets invited it.
Take a break, re-group being active in your life loving and appreciating real people in your life, give your full support to them.
I truly believe perspective will come back.
I hope you find peace
franky
changing kegs and going back under the verandah
Milo, if you do read here and really are thinking about leaving twitter, please do it for you. It may not be your fault the way you are being perceived, but admit, your over-the-top tweets invited it.
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Amen.
laura ☾ @peachyvogue 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Kate can you tweet me the recipe for the 4th of July fruit cake you made years ago?
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Here we go again. Some sheep are really slow.
Try Betty Crocker. Kate did.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 49
Kate gets $40,000 (?) to have her kids viewed by one million households probably encouraged by TLC to be at their worst behavior .
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I really doubt that TLC had to do any encouraging for them to be at their worst behavior. They are not actors. I think that what you saw is what happens at home.
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That's the thing though. They've been turned into actors. Be it because of the simple fact that as people get older they're more aware of how they are seen by others and can't help acting when on camera and/or because Plus 8 is not and never has been a true documentary. TLC doesn't gather the kids in an organic (slight pun intended) situation and just let life happen while they film. They set up pre arranged story lines with characters, retakes, sets, scripts and lines to deliver.
It must be mucho confusing for those kids. Because they know they are real people, they know what their life and relationships are like when there are no cameras and what ends up on television. How days are edited together, storylines built, conflicts, villains, heroes and all. So confusing.
What will it take to get those kids away from this beast? They're brainwashed into believing that this is their best and only option. They are trapped with that horrid beast and some might not even realize they're being abused daily. This is their normal. And it's so sad.
4th of July cake by The Pioneer Woman, 2007
http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2007/06/fourth_of_july_/
somebody give laura on twitter this link
franky
it's a step-by-step to do
thank you
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Oh, my gosh, franky! You had time to roll out and change the barrels, find a sheeple the flag cake recipe, check on your straw supplies, spit shine your crocs and make and freeze all the cookies for the next school year and crawl back under the Veranda for a nap till the littles and come home from school.
I am just so jellus! hahaha
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Oh, my gosh, franky! You had time to roll out and change the barrels, find a sheeple the flag cake recipe, check on your straw supplies, spit shine your crocs and make and freeze all the cookies for the next school year and crawl back under the Veranda for a nap till the littles and come home from school.
I am just so jellus! hahaha
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well there then and redbird, forgot to mention...I also filed my nails ( sans white tips), watched tv, walked my lab, washed my floors... yah know, things that take HOURS!!!
I feel a song coming on..bear with me....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevxZvSJLk8
and if ythat doesn't work, pm me
franky
I also cringed when one of the boys had a death grip on Zorro. wth?
They are so rough with him, never gentle. None of them are gentle.
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I didn't watch the show. I don't want to see a bird man-handled with a death grip and careless kids goofing around with a small parrot. A bird's legs are very fragile, almost tooth-pick like, and the slightest mishandling can break them like twigs. There's not much that can be done if that happens. You can splint it and hope that it heals, but in many cases, the leg or legs may develop gangrine and have to be amputated. I've seen that happen too often. I have a small Caique here right now with one leg. They do learn to perch on only one leg, but Kate could never deal with that.
That bird will meet with a serious or even fatal accident. It's a tragedy just waiting to happen, and it's been predicted here. If that bird is being grabbed and handled carelessly, no wonder he is biting. It's the only defense he has and his way of letting them know that he's afraid, apprehensive and uncertain of their next move. He's warning them, and they are too immature to understand bird behavior,
redbird, I cannot take credit for all of that, pretty sure my dog spit-shined my shoes
she does it on a daily basis, qall HAIL Labradors!
PS.. Coconut oil and a dog is better!
worst case, pull out your cloth, work for it
franky
Is this woman insane?
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Yes. Not to mention the dumbest of the dumb. Isn't this the one with the um, daughter who has um, some very real issues going on with several arrests on her record? Would she sit on a national television show and discuss her daughter, putting everything out there because it might help the daughter once it's been aired?
Eight is More Than Enough... I agree completely with you, this is a television production, crew hired, salaries paid, they need a story line, an arc, and it has to be done efficiently to get it in the 'can'.
Although I did not see the 11th birthday episode, things had to be set up in advance, the venues, the restaurant, the hotel. They had to pick the best place to have conflict and the hotel likely won out because it was the least public. Right, get the girls into a room without enough beds, that should do it! Perhaps it is not scripted, but I believe there is a plan, the kids know some of it, but not all, not the part that is set up to cause drama and conflict.
The overall theme, the thread, is to portray Kate as the struggling confused, overwhelmed 'single' mother of eight doing the best she can. To prove this we have eye rolls, the sighs and feigned exhaustion, all at the expense of the children she sees as a burden (well, a burden and a paycheque).
Perhaps there is some reality on the couch when the kids speak up, but anything too negative about their mother is on the editing room floor.
So, for me at least, there is very little reality in this production, oh, except Kate's dislike for her kids, now that's real!
I can't imagine Milo going away. It would leave a huge hole in her life and Milo would lose her own identity. She thinks she and Kate are soulmates and so alike.
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She will not go away as long as Kate is there. She plays martyr every now and then, and it appears that this is the time. She is such a loose cannon. Kate is her life...her entire life. Leaving Twitter would leave such a void in her life that she could never deal with it. She's addicted; Kate is the drug of her choice, and the withdrawal would be traumatizing.
Life has never, nor will ever be easy for us Canadians...but we will always remain strong! We will always apologise for life and try to help, beyond our means, We Are Canadian!!!
and yes, we all know how to build an igloo. LOL
franky
or a snow cave if need be
franky
PJ, 38...If the kids needed help, I would bet my last dollar that the authorities have been saying it for years. Meanwhile, she continued with the "top-of-their-class denial.
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She continued with that nonsense, never realizing that there would be locals who know that the school does not rank students.
Milo, dear Milo. She's tried everything to get Kate's attention on a one-on-one basis, lamenting over being ignored during the tweeting party. She needs attention from Kate and she's not getting it. I guess she's reaching into her bag of tricks, and she's scraping the bottom of the barrel with the threat to leave. It will never happen. She plays the sympathy card, disappears for awhile, but always returns. Nobody was interested enough in her trip to the wellness center to even ask about it, and lord knows, she dropped enough hints. What does she have left to get Kate's attention? Major surgery? Kate did give her a shout-out on television. Wasn't this when Milo was having serious health issues (or so she said)? Honestly, at this point I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of her mouth, other than her love and obsession for Kate.
I wonder if she's afraid that she's close to being outed, either as a catfish, or as someone nobody would suspect of taking on the role of Kate's Biggest Fan.
Someone on Kate's twitter timeline posted the early 2009 interview Oprah did with the family from their home. It was right after Octomom had all her babies and Oprah asked Kate her feelings about it. I've never seen the interview and realized this was when they were separated but no one knew it yet and it was filmed in the new house. So it was interesting to watch Jon and Kate's demeanor during it.
Kate was giving a tour of the house to the Oprah cameraman and was showing her OWN crew and said "The crew changes so often at this point and we're seeing a lot of different people". She points out "Mike the audio guy" and said "he's the only one left from the very beginning." I guess she doesn't realize her lies will catch up to her at some point. "Same crew" my ass. I know we've discussed this before but she obviously doesn't remember all her lies or how to keep her stories straight over the years.
She was talking to Oprah, trying to sell her bullsh*t to her and the viewers that the kids were fine. She said "This is normal to them (being on tv), it has not adversely affected them. It has increased our ability to travel, to meet people, to learn social skills, to learn people skills and life skills. So I feel like a family of 8 kids, they're going to grow up and be really ready for the world".
Boy she got THAT all wrong!
Oh, franky, you kill me! haha
I know this is OT, but it is FABULOUS!
A radio station did a mashup of Freddie Mercury and Kayne West trying to sing Bohemian Rhapsody at the big concert at Glastonbury this past weekend. It is fascinating because even though the video of Freddie is 30+ years old, it looks like it was filmed last week.
I watched Freddie sing at LIVE AID on tv 35 years ago. I heard that the drs. told Freddie that if he went on stage to sing that he would destroy his vocal cords. He wanted to be a part of it and he went out and sang, I forgot what song, but the note that he hit and held it for 10 to 15 minutes, it seemed? They call it The Note Heard Around the World.
I am calling Kayne's "singing" The Warble Heard Around the World". If Kayne had auditioned for X Factor when he was just beginning his "singing" career, Simon Cowell couldn't of buzzed him fast enough!!
https://youtu.be/nwN6dPNXklg
Life has never, nor will ever be easy for us Canadians...but we will always remain strong! We will always apologise for life and try to help, beyond our means, We Are Canadian!!!
and yes, we all know how to build an igloo. LOL
franky
July 2, 2015 at 7:36 PM
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or a snow cave if need be
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Love you franky, but you’re giving the wrong impression of Canada! Nope, don’t know how to build a snow cave. An igloo? But then I live in the banana belt of Canada. YES we are strong, I’ll give you that. And, we always say “sorry” - eh?
Oh, Lanc Native, you may have something there!
Oh, I wish Nev and Max were on the job!
Sorry frankie, maybe I'm a little sensitive after seeing an Anthony Bourdain episode on Canada last night. The whole show was in the dead of a Quebec winter. Ice fishing & blizzards the whole hour .
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30
Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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Let me get this straight. How long have they had that bird and Kate's never seen any of her kids running with Zorro up until she watched the show? What the hell? Did they run with him only because the cameras were there and the producers told them to liven it up, do something you shouldn't do or otherwise there's nothing to film but a bunch of kids sitting around watching tv or texting away on their phones? Or is Kate aware of it happening all the time and just covering her ass again pretending 'it's never happened before'?
Hmmm. Let me think....
I wonder if she's afraid that she's close to being outed, either as a catfish, or as someone nobody would suspect of taking on the role of Kate's Biggest Fan.
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She was outed as a catfish a long, long time ago in my mind. WHO Milo is, I don't know. But if Milo actually is a Georgia woman with 2 kids and 2 pets who truly adores Kate Gosselin from afar, nobody will be more shocked than I am. I haven't believed that since Milo first started playing, as you said, Kate's Biggest Fan.
Milo has flounced away before. She may disappear for a couple of weeks but she'll be back.
It IS often a relief to a child or an adult to find out exactly what is wrong. You finally know you haven't been imagining things. You can often get help. It is NOT a relief to share it on tv and a Radar article and whatever else will happen.
Hi there, I have been reading since the beginning and post very infrequently. My whole handle is " get medicated Kate you'll feel better" I shortened it to "get medicated" well, because it's shorter. :-) I just have to say that I was in Vancoover, Canada for the Canada vs England game and I was so impressed by how nice everyone was! We are from Seattle but we bought Canada t-shirts to support our neighbors. We were offered flags, necklaces etc..... Even after they knew we were from the U.S. It was a heartbreaking game for Canada but everyone was so classy!! The standing ovation for your girls was great to watch! Also, NOBODY was leaving that arena. What a fun experience. Not to mention, we had tickets to five games and what a great host you all are, vendors, restaurants, bus drivers, citizens, etc.....
That's all. I have enjoyed reading on this blog, it makes me feel like I'm not alone in thinking the Gosselin matriarch has serious issues. I love particularly reading Auntie's, Tucker's, Mel's, Flimsy and Midnights postings. Ya'll are funny and make me LOL at least once a day. redbird, something about you reminds me of my mom. You have a soft heart but I wish you weren't so invested because it seems to anger you quickly. I hope I've expressed myself without offending, back to my reading nook! Oh!!! And the shows I've watched on all the recommendations..... Excellent!
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Hi there, I have been reading since the beginning and post very infrequently. My whole handle is " get medicated Kate you'll feel better" I shortened it to "get medicated" well, because it's shorter. :-)
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Hi Medicated!
I love how we have a good handful of Canadians here.
What is it about Canada that makes people so nice and so cool?
Seriously, never met a Canadian that was nice.
Maybe it's the air up there!
I hope Admin is having a great time still, but we're chugging along just fine approaching 1400 comments.
Nice job pool girls and gents(?).
It IS often a relief to a child or an adult to find out exactly what is wrong. You finally know you haven't been imagining things. You can often get help. It is NOT a relief to share it on tv and a Radar article and whatever else will happen.
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People in general want to put a name/diagnosis to what's wrong. I like to say they like to have something to "hang their hat on".
I don't think Colin's been diagnosed recently. I think Kate's been avoiding the inevitable to keep the 6-pack together at that school.
It's going to be more work now that the kids are separated.
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Oh, franky, you kill me! haha
I know this is OT, but it is FABULOUS!
A radio station did a mashup of Freddie Mercury and Kayne West trying to sing Bohemian Rhapsody at the big concert at Glastonbury this past weekend. It is fascinating because even though the video of Freddie is 30+ years old, it looks like it was filmed last week.
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Kanye West couldn't lick Freddie's shoes!
Ugh.
Loved Freddie, from his flamboyance to those Bucky Beaver teeth!
It's ok Jolie, it is was all snark on my part, sorry for upsetting you. On the plus side, it is a balmy 10C here this glorious July 3rd. I woke up at 6 am to close my windows.
Back under the covers to hibernate
franky
She was talking to Oprah, trying to sell her bullsh*t to her and the viewers that the kids were fine. She said "This is normal to them (being on tv), it has not adversely affected them. It has increased our ability to travel, to meet people, to learn social skills, to learn people skills and life skills. So I feel like a family of 8 kids, they're going to grow up and be really ready for the world".
Boy she got THAT all wrong!
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Yup, Kate knew all the buzzwords and at that point in time, it would have been difficult to impossible to tell what was really going on with the kids.
What everyone with 8 brain cells to rub together knew was that Kate was lying when when she said if anyone wants to stop filming, we'll stop.
It's not a democracy, it's a tyrannical dictatorship. Always has been.
Early morning laugh!
Trump Tweeted that Macy's stock dropped and people are telling him they're cutting up their Macy's cards.
Um...this week, Macy card holders (including me) got a notice that it's no longer a Macy's AmEx, it's just an AmExpress card. No more Macy's card and that's why the stock drop and card cutting!
His ego knows no bounds!
The thought of Donald Trump in the Oval Office actually frightens me.
The overall theme, the thread, is to portray Kate as the struggling confused, overwhelmed 'single' mother of eight doing the best she can. To prove this we have eye rolls, the sighs and feigned exhaustion, all at the expense of the children she sees as a burden (well, a burden and a paycheque).*
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Jumping in? Are you sure you didn't watch? Lol
Yup, that was it in a nutshell.
t. A bird's legs are very fragile, almost tooth-pick like, and the slightest mishandling can break them like twigs. There's not much that can be done if that happens
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They showed Alexis a few times with Zorro "hooked"? on the back of her hoodie. She reaches behind her head and pries his little feet off, much like pulling staples. First thing I thought was one of those legs is going to snap, easy.
Get Medicated (#138), thanks for the shout-out -- hope you'll
comment more often.
Wonder what supermom TFW has planned for the 4th of July?
No future show airings mentioned yet, and a girl's got to keep
her name in the news. Maybe we'll be treated to a pic of the
family gathered around the famous Flag Cake, or posed in
front of the house holding sparklers. Does she ever, EVER
plan something wonderful for her kids away from her property
that doesn't include cameras? And I don't want to hear that she
does, but just doesn't talk about it, because she would surely
share the news on Twitter.
The overall theme, the thread, is to portray Kate as the struggling confused, overwhelmed 'single' mother of eight doing the best she can. To prove this we have eye rolls, the sighs and feigned exhaustion, all at the expense of the children she sees as a burden (well, a burden and a paycheque).
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Exactly, well put.
How do people NOT GET that not only is everything paid for and arranged, but Kate gets a FAT paycheck for filming?
The outpouring of pity from what I assume to be otherwise mentally stable individuals is sad and misguided.
Kate doesn't need, nor deserve their pity.
The thought of Donald Trump in the Oval Office actually frightens me.
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What a dink. There's a narcissist who is obviously getting much much worse in his old age.
Tucker's Mom (#148), your comment reminded me of the
Ronald McDonald House episode, where TFW is seen
writing a check to donate to them. If you were just a casual
viewer flipping channels and landed on that scene, you might
very well get choked up, and think about this poor woman's
struggles, and how lovely it is that she's now paying them back
for all her blessings. But she was getting PAID for that episode.
Same with the food bank, and the trip to St. Jude's, and both
yard sales (with "prodceeds" going to charity). The less thought
you put into it, the better she looks. And that's why she attracts
fans for whom "less thought" seems to be the norm.
During Kate's tweet fest Tuesday, she tweeted this:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Jun 30
We are really seeing each of their unique makeup.. Especially over this last year... They aren’t a ‘lump’ group of kids. @TLC #KatePlus8
It took her 11 years to realize this? This was tweeted before her confession about Collin. Damage control?
Then Milo tweets that filming must help her be a good parent. WTF?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Jun 30
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC Seeing them on film...they way they react...you get 2see stuff you probably miss! Helps you to parent, don't ya think?
So that's how to learn to be a good parent--get a reality TV show!! Why haven't all the parenting experts thought of this before?
I was worried abut Zorro twice ( now thrice, and in general!) Once was Kate was rinsing the cake off him rather roughly, and also that night when Alexis scooted him across the counter, also in a firm grip. That poor bird!
As for Shoka....
Some really good life, social, people skills those kids learned from filming!
It's not every family that has one, let alone two, kids get expelled from *kindergarten*!!
Of course she's starting to see them as not a lump of kids, especially this last year. It's hard to lump them into a group when one of them goes to a completely different school.
I'm surprised that she even lets him into the house and hasn't banished him to the chicken coop.
Or his father's house. Oh wait. His father is dead. Maybe a crew daddy could take him in.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30
Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
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How about you KATE stop shoving poor Zorro in that wonder bra. I bet he doesn't want to be in-between those implants.
How do people NOT GET that not only is everything paid for and arranged, but Kate gets a FAT paycheck for filming?
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Denial.
Stupidity.
Distraction by their queens magically growing bust size.
Last night she tweeted that she, Cara and Mady were watching Big Brother. Shouldn't she be watching the freak channel if she wants to keep in good with TLC?
I guess she wants the twins to learn social and life skills from the contestants in the house.
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Tucker's Mom said...
The thought of Donald Trump in the Oval Office actually frightens me.
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I imagine him with a pretend-y Oval Office in one of his mortgaged-to-the-hilt buildings and he gets to pretend he's the POTUS. LOL
Hi "get medicated" nice to see you posting. I'm happy you had a good experience in Vancouver. Are you going to the soccer game on Sunday? Should be a good one!
franky, I think the heat got to me last night :) We had the driest hottest June ever this year with no end in sight.
sue_buddy...cod tongues are a deep-fried speciality of Newfoundland. We had them once on holiday & that's enough for me.
Mel said... 153
Some really good life, social, people skills those kids learned from filming!
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Yes, it's very telling that the children don't hesitate to throw their tantrums and diss their mother and siblings in front of the camera, not to mention their friends and strangers. I think the children know that they can get away with it because the cameras are there and that type of behaviour is silently condoned and encouraged by TLC, just as it was for Kate. Learning good life, social and people skills? I don't think so. It's the opposite.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jun 30
Running with Zorro is NOT okay... I saw that first when I saw this ... It’s been made ‘illegal’ here for his safety.. @TLC #Yikes
But it's safe for her to drive with him loose in her car.
The wiring in her brain is so messed up.
So that's how to learn to be a good parent--get a reality TV show!! Why haven't all the parenting experts thought of this before?
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Well, sure, and if you want to save gas, you get three cars, and if you don't want to pay for a community pool membership, you put in a pool. Doesn't everyone do that?
Wonder what supermom TFW has planned for the 4th of July?
No future show airings mentioned yet, and a girl's got to keep
her name in the news
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Driveway flags! A novel idea! I believe that one of the sheep has reminded her about this. After all, it's a tradition!
Milo has flounced away before. She may disappear for a couple of weeks but she'll be back.
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I think that her "record" of being MIA is two weeks or so. Sometimes it coincides with Kate being away.
Auntie, sorry (there we go again) I missed your Brent Leroy chili cheese dogs on Canada Day. Maybe next year?
Tuckers mom: Yes, for Kate, having a kid in a separate school WILL be more work for: just Kate. I know some people who have 6 kids, and live in a suburb, where, 3 kids go to the grade school k-5, 1 kid is in the JR High , 6-8, and the oldest goes to high school which is 9-12. So they are dealing with not 1 school like Kate is k-12, they are dealing with 3 separate schools. So, I don't know what Kate will bitch about. Thousands of parents do it all the time for at least 100 years. The school she picked, all the grades are in one place. So having 1 kid go to a different school so what Kate.
Geez, the Hayes had kids going to 4 different schools, high school, Jr High, grade school & special ed. You did not hear Betty complain.
The one thing about this awful show that may help the gosselin hostages, is that an objective person (therapist, psychiatrist, etc) can show those kids their abuse and help them heal, if they even get that far. I had no idea I had been abused and neglected because it was all I knew and our family looks great on the outside. I resisted anyone telling me otherwise for the first year or so of therapy after completely falling to pieces after years of depression and addiction. When I finally accepted and internalized the truth, there were a couple of years of absolute rage and sadness. I felt so ripped off by my childhood and narc mom. But it was so worth going through because I am free from it and her now. I keep things cordial but distant and I am free from her scolding disapproving critiques and can now look at her with some compassion for the unhappy sick person she is. One of my siblings has also broken free (geographical cures do help), two are still enmeshed with her but they remain dependent on her for money in one case and childcare in the other. They protect her and don't see her the same way I do. Anyway, I wish those poor children happiness and freedom some day.
Getoftweeter (#167), and parents can have as few as 3 kids and,
depending on the age range, have 3 different schools. And maybe
have full-time jobs to deal with, too. But, well, getting kids to and
from school is pretty much a basic need. No medals for that, TFW.
But once school starts, we may get treated to a new blog post
about the difficulty of having kids in different schools. Or, even
better for the martyr mom, TLC will be there to film that first day
of utter chaos. I can just picture her throne interview -- TFW
clutching a Kleenex, and poking and dabbing her dry eyes
about doing it all alone, but that her child's needs come first,
so she did what she had to do. The child she couldn't think
of anything positive to say about on his birthday.
My sister has four kids; one in middle school, one in a high school, one in one college and one in another. I've always said having them at the same age is easier than having them spread out.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@MY_2BCOLLIES Sometimes best 2just walk away! Not abandoning anyone, my feelings remain the same. Haters will miss me more than anyone else.
So Kate won't miss her too much?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Aimeecharlotte1 The more U get 2know her..the more respect U will have 4her! Nice 2have U on board as an intelligent sane voice of reason!
She doesn't get it! This is the reason she is teased, but she just can't grasp it. She doesn't know her, but she leads others to believe that she does. She had numerous opportunities to meet Kate, but has excuses every time, and really got irate when it was suggested that she attend the block party.Why won't she meet her? This is perhaps one of the biggest mysteries in this entire Kate-Milo saga.
What I can't understand is why Kate is respected. For what? For parental alienation? For her lies? For putting her children on display, using them to support her because she's too lazy to find a job and support them? For sharing her son's developmental issues on national television? One could go on and on. Yet Milo tells a fan that the more you know her, the more you will respect her, but the sad truth is that Milo is being fooled beyond belief because she doesn't know her, but she's too deep into celebrity worship to open her eyes and see things as they really are.
Ohhh dear, poor Kate, 2 different schools. We had 7 children who were in private school, and here the schools are gender divided as well as age.
So I had to deliver and pick the kids to 5 different locations as we don't have school buses, pre-school, junior girls, junior boys, senior girls and senior boys. I even had to do a second trip every afternoon as one or more would have sport training, all while dealing with a toddler or newborn, can't tell you how many times I would have to pull over to feed a screaming baby, thank goodness breast milk comes pre-heated lol...but that was life and I managed, and I am still sane and smiling.
The key to an on going adult relationship with Kate Kreifer Gosselin, is never getting your way, never demanding your wants or needs.
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I love how we have a good handful of Canadians here.
What is it about Canada that makes people so nice and so cool?
Seriously, never met a Canadian that was nice.
Maybe it's the air up there!
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Typo? Yes, I'm certain it is. LOL
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 47m47 minutes ago
@Aimeecharlotte1 That's the reason I hang around. They call me obsessed...but I just have so much respect 4her! & she has helped me alot!
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Helped you what? This has to be one the strangest tweets ever.
How on earth has Kate helped Milo when 1) they've never met 2) Kate barely acknowledges Milo existence to the point that Milo regularly pouts about being ignored and 3) Kate doesn't help anyone but herself.
I used to be on the fence about who/what Milo actually is and leaned more toward the side of paid minion. Now, I'm not so sure.
This recent bout of woe is me, I'm so under appreciated, I may have to leave, haters hate me more than Kate blah blah, have me rethinking it.
I just have a hard time understanding how someone could be so dependent on a stranger's attentions and so lacking in personal integrity that they define themselves by the actions of said stranger.
That's gotta be a very sad existence.
Getofftweeter, weren't you getofftwitter at one time, or is this another person?
I'm thinking of the great movies that were/are currently out
that TFW hasn't mentioned taking the kids to: Jurassic World,
Inside/Out, Home, Spongebob Squarepants. A month
into summer vacation, and she couldn't take them off the
compound for a movie? Now that she's outed herself
about her monthly spa visits, she really can't get away with
the "it's too expensive" excuse.
I'll say it again -- she really, truly, does not enjoy spending time
with her children. Her life revolves around her needs and wants,
and filming. Even if every single one of those movies made her
roll her eyes, I bet the kids would love them. Pure, escapist fun,
after a long school year. They're herded to trip after trip, but a
simple pleasure like a movie seems to be out of their mother's
comfort zone. I hope they go with their dad, or their friends.
The last movie she mentioned going to was Paddington, and
she tweeted about it -- as did Tori Spellig -- so we connected
those dots and realized it was a freebie.
Tucker's Mom (#148), your comment reminded me of the
Ronald McDonald House episode, where TFW is seen
writing a check to donate to them. If y
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That was scripted as well. Who knows, it might have been similar to what was reported about the Duggar's food donation to a needy family.
They loaded bags of groceries into the car, when the filming stopped, they took the bags out of the family's car and put them back in their own car.
Kate's never been the donate-ish type of person, I doubt she gave $ to RMc house.
She can't even donate clothing that her kids have outgrown (which was donated to HER).
I bet the recent garage sale she put on with TLC's help, was stuff that had been donated to her at one point as well.
She doesn't have a generous bone in her body.
Anon this time said... 168
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Wow, very powerful. I sense a great deal of strength from your post.
Thank you.
The "8" will fracture someday, I'm sure, and I think the biggest reason will be because of Kate's nasty, sour and aggressive attitude towards their (yep, still living and parenting) father.
I believe the ones who move away and stop filming will fare the best. I'm sure there will be a couple who stick close to Kate, for her approval and money.
Good luck to Kate and Jon, when those kids grow up and go their own ways, marry and have children of their own. They will probably never all be in the same room at the same time.
localyocul said... 170
My sister has four kids; one in middle school, one in a high school, one in one college and one in another. I've always said having them at the same age is easier than having them spread out.
July 3, 2015 at 8:13 AM
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I've thought that, too. Try being pregnant, bloated, sick, cankled and chasing around 2.3 or 4 other toddlers and little kids!
Now that's hard.
Helped you what? This has to be one the strangest tweets ever.
How on earth has Kate helped Milo when 1) they've never met 2) Kate barely acknowledges Milo existence to the point that Milo regularly pouts about being ignored and 3) Kate doesn't help anyone but herself.
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I was thinking that she meant that Kate has helped her just by being Kate...an inspiration, great parent, encouraging Milo to remain positive despite her physical limitations (Kate running, being strong in the face of adversity, lol!), never giving up, kind of an "emotional" supportive help.
I remember when Milo was in a tweeting frenzy and absolutely giddy in excitement when she picked up her rescue dog on Kate's birthday. It had to be on Kate's birthday, the time was critical. Fans and non-fans alike actually thought that Milo was on her way to see Kate, and this is what Milo had implied. It seemed that Kate was genuinely worried that Milo would pay her a late night visit, and if I were Kate, that would have been my concern, too. It was a dead give-away that although Kate seems to have befriended Milo if only through the internet, she was very hesitant about what Milo was up to on Kate's birthday. I believe that Kate knows more about Milo than Milo thinks that she knows (If that makes any sense).
I just have a hard time understanding how someone could be so dependent on a stranger's attentions and so lacking in personal integrity that they define themselves by the actions of said stranger.
That's gotta be a very sad existence.
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Yes, and either her family is too clueless to recognize this, or they just don't care.
Angie (#178), yes, I'd forgotten about the consignment stuff.
So this woman got things donated to her, and then turned
around and sold it. There's something so unsavory about
that to me -- like it's not far removed from stealing. Remember
when she said she planned to "pay it forward?" It's on film somewhere. Perhaps she meant in her next life.
This so-called single mom of 8 children recently admitted to
splurging on monthly spa visits for her mental health. How
many people who put money in the basket during her "love
offerings" days indulge themselves that way? And how many
of them have way more challenging lives than TFW?
Ohhh dear, poor Kate, 2 different schools. We had 7 children who were in private school, and here the schools are gender divided as well as age.
So I had to deliver and pick the kids to 5 different locations as we don't have school buses, pre-school, junior girls, junior boys, senior girls and senior boys.
LOL!! I know the feeling. Until our four were all in the same school, I had to do the same thing with them in different schools. I spent three and a half hours on the road every day, just delivering them and retrieving them from school.
What drove me insane were the snow days, some kids with no school, some with delays (all different starting and dismissal times), trying to be in several places at one time. I actually had to sit down and construct a time chart on those days, figuring out who starts at what time, when to leave, what order to take them. Kate has absolutely no idea what that's like. Can you imagine the "woe is me" blog that would come out of a situation like that?
swingsandroundabouts said... 174
Tucker's Mom said ... 139
I love how we have a good handful of Canadians here.
What is it about Canada that makes people so nice and so cool?
Seriously, never met a Canadian that was nice.
Maybe it's the air up there!
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Typo? Yes, I'm certain it is. LOL
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Omg. How embarrassing. YES TYPO!
I need a drink;)
I'm willing to bet Kate has already made arrangements for someone else to chauffeur Collin back and forth to his new school. No way in hell is she going to be making runs to two different bus pickup locations/schools by herself.
redbird, something about you reminds me of my mom. You have a soft heart but I wish you weren't so invested because it seems to anger you quickly
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This was said kindly and I appreciate it. I do get angry too quick some time but I do have a big ole heart. Some times my situation, being in the NH, reading about you alls lifes going on makes me feel even worse. I can't go any place on my own. I see my grands when the ds bring them. Don't know when Ill see my new baby gd. I have my tv and computer. I read my Bible daily and the pastor or an elder comes by once a week. That is my only for sure visitor. And the staff, they aren't family and since the stealing incident, some aren't as nice as they once were. Sometimes I am so depressed. I feel terribly I came across the wrong way.
redbird
Sometimes I am so depressed. I feel terribly I came across the wrong way.
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Never feel that way! You've got spunk and attitude and yes, a good heart.
So what if you get a bit invested, you've got something other than your situation to focus on. It's all good!!
redbird said... 187
And the staff, they aren't family
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But WE are! XOO
This so-called single mom of 8 children recently admitted to
splurging on monthly spa visits for her mental health. How
many people who put money in the basket during her "love
offerings" days indulge themselves that way? And how many
of them have way more challenging lives than TFW?
July 3, 2015 at 10:24 AM
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Grrrrr! Yes, how that pisses me off.
For her mental health? It ain't workin' bitch
Who knows, it might have been similar to what was reported about the Duggar's food donation to a needy family.
They loaded bags of groceries into the car, when the filming stopped, they took the bags out of the family's car and put them back in their own car.
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Now really? How in the world did they think the story wouldn't get out? Why in the hell would they even conceive of taking back the groceries? Are they smoking something?
OT I would rather have a millionaire business man in the Oval office than a Community Organizer who never made payroll. Look how many people are unemployed and how much debt the country owes. Just sayin'
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The key to an on going adult relationship with Kate Kreifer Gosselin, is never getting your way, never demanding your wants or needs.
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You got that one right. It's a one way street with her.
Blowing In The Wind said...(181)
"I was thinking that she meant that Kate has helped her just by being Kate...an inspiration, great parent, encouraging Milo to remain positive despite her physical limitations (Kate running, being strong in the face of adversity, lol!), never giving up, kind of an "emotional" supportive help."
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Well, perhaps. I'll reiterate what I said though...it's gotta be a sad existence when you look toward a loser like Kate for inspiration and emotional support.
There is nothing about Kate that is worth admiring or respecting, IMO, and if there ever was it got swallowed up by her enormous, twisted ego.
Kate can't seem to get through a day (while she's home with her kids) without publicly complaining about how rough her life is while patting herself on the back at the same time.
I suppose to her credit though, she will occasionally allow her fans to do the patting and praising for her. She's just gracious and generous that way.
:P
Reader said:
The key to an on going adult relationship with Kate Kreifer Gosselin, is never getting your way, never demanding your wants or needs.
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100% true. It also helps if you start to believe that you want or need exactly what she does so you end up doing all kinds of things you have no interest in just to keep the peace.
redbird, please don't worry about coming across the wrong way! I enjoy your posts & don't want you to feel you can't express yourself here. TFW gets to all of us!
redbird: We love you here, and I'm so sorry to hear how difficult life is for you. You seem to manage quite well in the communication and humor department! When bad things happen, it's human to ask why, and why to a good person. I don't know. Luck is random. I'm glad you are on this forum and hope things look up for you somehow soon.
Ms Common Sense said... 192
OT I would rather have a millionaire business man in the Oval office than a Community Organizer who never made payroll. Look how many people are unemployed and how much debt the country owes. Just sayin'
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The country has less debt under the "Community Organizer" (also law professor and member of Congress, but we won't mention that) than it did under his predecessor. It also has a lower rate of unemployment than when Bush left office and more jobs created than under Bush, but don't let facts get in the way of slamming President Obama.
redbird, it wouldn't be the same without you and your sense of humor!
I agree with everything everyone is saying to redbird. I tried to post a rather long post to that effect but blogger wouldn't let me. Just as well.
The authentic pym
Redbird -I always enjoy your posts and it's only human nature to ask "why me". You don't seem to do it very often. I just wish I was in the same state because it would be my pleasure to visit with you.
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