As insane as it is, Mama and Daddy Duggar will sit down with Megyn Kelly on Wednesday to talk about son Josh's history of child molestation of his sisters when he was a teenager.Megyn says a preview of the interview will air Wednesday, with the full interview to air Friday.
Fox News, The Kelly File, 9 p.m. EDT (check local listings).
New Washington County police report.
Read a breakdown of some of the misleading or outright incorrect information from the Kelly interview.
1315 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1315 Newer› Newest»I didn't watch the whole interview with the girls, but I read this article from US Weekly, which highlighted some points made in the interview.
4. They felt shame during their DHS investigation.
Asked by Kelly if, like many victims of abuse, either of them ever felt guilt or shame as a result of what had happened, neither woman missed a beat. "When we were doing the DHS investigation and they're asking you to tell your story … It’s one thing to tell Mom and Dad … but when a complete stranger says, ‘Tell us your story,’ it’s different,” Jessa recalled. Jill noted that their parents convinced them to be "completely open and honest" despite their anxiety.
"We were completely honest," Jessa echoed. "We told them the complete story." She then noted how betrayed they felt by the fact that these records were not kept sealed.
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But they said that they didn't know what happened until their parents told them, so how could THEY tell DHS the complete story, when it was only a story they heard from their parents. Isn't that hearsay?
Then there's this one:
9. They don't care about going back on TV now.
"Life goes on, really. We're not a TV family. We're a family that just happens to be on TV," Jessa said with a smile, though Jill admitted she would be sad about at least one thing if the show does end up being indefinitely canceled. "We do love our film crew, I will say that! We have the best film crew. They're like family to us," she declared.
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Sound familiar? Is that in the TLC rulebook under "what to say about the crew"?
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jessa-and-jill-duggars-interview-with-megyn-kelly-9-revelations-201556#ixzz3cLLBiRar
If you compare the pic of the boy and Kate: https://twitter.com/acisj/status/607233882811994112
to pictures from that particular Mariott Hotel's website you can clearly see it is the same hotel.
PA Dutch Mom said... 147
Dutch Wonderland? Isn't that for really little kids and didn't they already go there?
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Yes, they were already there, and while it's mostly for younger kids, there are several attractions there that older ones would enjoy. I can see them all having fun there. I just passed by there today and for a Saturday, it didn't seem too crowded, but the tourist season really isn't in full swing yet because many schools haven't started their summer break.
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It looks so tiny. I mean it's right on Business Route 30 FFS
to pictures from that particular Mariott Hotel's website you can clearly see it is the same hotel.
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What Marriott?
Ingrid said... 155
OT We have a Triple Crown Winner!!
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OMG that's awesome! I've been at work so I missed it!
But they said that they didn't know what happened until their parents told them, so how could THEY tell DHS the complete story, when it was only a story they heard from their parents. Isn't that hearsay?
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At this point, I really don't think that they know what their story is. They and their parents have told so many different versions that it's impossible at this stage in the game to remember exactly what they have said.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 158
TWO-THIRDS of families deal with this???
Where the hell are the girls getting that figure from??
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Jim Boob. Didn't he also teach them about how old the earth was and it was a ridiculous number? I could never get into the show myself
Mel (199):"If he was just curious, why didn't he stop after 2-3 times? And why would he sneak around at night to do it?"
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Maybe he's a slow learner, or the Quiverfulls teach that practice makes perfect.
Kk (195): "'m watching they interview with the girls and they said very clearly that they locked their rooms at night."
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But if they didn't remember anything happening, wouldn't they wonder why locks were put on their doors? They didn't ask?
PA Dutch Mom said... 167
I think that the Gosselins would enjoy Dutch Wonderland, especially the water lagoon, the plunge and the roller coaster. It's really not as babyish as it sounds. It's come quite a long way in the past 50 years. Its founder, Earl Clark, was a close family friend and when it began there was only a handful of rides that were nothing to write home about. In fact, awhile back, it nearly became one of those sad defunct amusement parks.
However, with the additions and expansion, it has become really nice for a scaled down version of the larger parks. Each season they add something new. I can't, however, see Kate enjoying it. It's just too much beneath her and what they have become accustomed to.
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They should advertise that. I'm in Chester County and thought it was still that sad defunct amusement park! Maybe we'll check it out this summer it's not that far at all
It looks so tiny. I mean it's right on Business Route 30 FFS
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Yes, it's in the main tourist area. Route 30 (Lincoln Highway) is so much fun, especially when there's an accident or traffic light malfunction (happens almost daily). If they were filming there today, I didn't see any panic in the parking lot or paps swarming the grounds.
Kate was so close to the Rumspringa Brewery. I should have invited her to sip and sup with us!
This is a picture of the bar/lounge at the Double Tree taken from their website.
http://d1dzqwexhp5ztx.cloudfront.net/imageRepo/1/0/33/419/449/123098_H_P.jpg
Here are the pictures of Kate and that guy:
https://twitter.com/acisj/status/607233882811994112/video/1
It is definitely the place where the picture of Kate and that guy was taken. You can tell by the lights, and the ceiling. My question--why were Kate and this guy in the bar?
At this point, I really don't think that they know what their story is. They and their parents have told so many different versions that it's impossible at this stage in the game to remember exactly what they have said.
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I agree. Their stories have been contaminated. Not only were they much younger and it's a long time ago, but it was obviously greatly influenced by things their parents said to them about the incidents.
It's sort of like how police don't want witnesses talking to each other or other people talking to them. Their recollections are so fragile and so susceptible to influence, any little interaction could mess up their entire recollection. This is only compounded when you're a child.
There is no way now of ever knowing what really happened. Thanks to the parents.
The Duggar girls are now experts on the FOI act, too? My my they sure can throw the Podunk act out the window when it suits them.
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Yes, they be so smart. They are even inventing things that it says. They should go to law school.
I have 4 kids, one of whom is around the tup's age. The last time she was at Dutch Wonderland, she was in 2nd grade. She would not go now as she is too old for the rides there. I can't believe that TFW's kids would find DW very fun. At their age, Hershey Park or Dorney Park would be more fun,
PA Dutch Mom said... 11
It looks so tiny. I mean it's right on Business Route 30 FFS
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Yes, it's in the main tourist area. Route 30 (Lincoln Highway) is so much fun, especially when there's an accident or traffic light malfunction (happens almost daily). I
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That stretch is a nightmare. Not that I'm really a local or anything
...to pictures from that particular Mariott Hotel's website you can clearly see it is the same hotel.
What Marriott?
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They apparently are at the Double Tree Hilton, not the Courtyard by Marriott, which would have been even closer to DW than the Eden.
Didn't Kate say in her tweet that they were in the "relax mode" I guess she was relaxin' in the bar!
Thanks for posting that picture Kate is a twit. I was beginning to think that the girl that tweeted that they were staying in her hotel didn't know where she worked. LOL!
Yup, TFW looks every bit of 40 and then some.
Good article by Ken Tucker about the Duggar interviews.
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/duggars-jill-jessa-fox-news-megan-kelly-duggar-120822048105.html
Mary Ann said... 2
If you compare the pic of the boy and Kate: https://twitter.com/acisj/status/607233882811994112
to pictures from that particular Mariott Hotel's website you can clearly see it is the same hotel.
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But wait. If the picture was taken at the hotel, what evidence do we have that Kate was ever at Dutch Whatever?
I think people reasoned it thus:
Kate was with boy (evidence, picture)
Boy was at Dutch Whatever (evidence, other tweet)
conclusion: Kate was at Dutch Whatever
But if the picture was taken somewhere else (the hotel), we don't know Kate went to Dutch Whatever. Just because they were once at the same place (the hotel), it doesn't mean they are joined at the hip, and she went everywhere with him.
Is there some other evidence Kate went to Dutch Whatever?
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As per the suitability of the Dutch place for older kids, look at the website. All the pictures are of small children, and the rides look really tame. I've never been there in my life, but I would judge it unsuitable, based on what the website says. There is a marked contrast with the pictures on the Hersheypark website, which has many more roller coasters and ratings up to "high thrill".
She would not go now as she is too old for the rides there. I can't believe that TFW's kids would find DW very fun
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It's changed in the past few years. Kids like the water park and the water plunge ride. It's actually fun for all ages, especially if you don't want to get into the large crowds at Hershey and Dorney. There is enough there to do in one afternoon, and it's about thirty dollars cheaper per person per day (discount) than Hershey.
Nice to see some new/infrequent posters commenting lately!
FutureRN, AnnieD, LifeInOH, MabelD, LJ, and a few others
whose names I can't remember. Oh, and we even had a
guy post today!
Pooshanella Goober, you commented a few days ago about
feeling that homeschooling was getting a bad rap because of
the Duggars. Only speaking for myself, I certainly wouldn't
judge the whole concept based on that family. But I can see
how it might make you cringe for them to be representatives.
They're more like "bad will ambassadors" for so many things.
I was just taking a wander through the recaps here including the birthday one and realized that was five years ago! Did anyone think back when the Six turned six they would still be filmed when they turned eleven? Is it more or less damaging, force-filming them now than when they were little?
"Those kids just finished school a day or so ago. She wasted no time putting them to work and shoving those camersa into their faces. Geez, Kate...couldn't you just give them the weekend to relax and have fun at home in your POOL?"
Think she got them under contract to film right away, so if it comes up in court before that same judge they had before, he will say since they are all under contract, there is nothing he can do to stop the filming, and it must go on.
Over In TFW's County said... 17
...to pictures from that particular Mariott Hotel's website you can clearly see it is the same hotel.
What Marriott?
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They apparently are at the Double Tree Hilton, not the Courtyard by Marriott, which would have been even closer to DW than the Eden.
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This just got waaay too complicated for me.
What I know for sure is I remember those first days of summer vacation when I was a kid; just enjoying the fact that I had the whole summer in front of me; I was freeeee! I didn't have to pack a suitcase and stay at a local hotel so I could follow my mother around while she acted like an ass in front of a film crew.
But not Kate's kids. Two days after school is out and she's got them working to keep her in monthly spa trips and ugly French tip manicures.
I call BS on this tweet she made a few hours after she was outed being seen with a film crew:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Summer is in full swing here&enjoying it to the MAX! We are already in ‘relax’ mode and it feels SO nice to be able to slow down&warm up!������
That was damage control. She likes to keep her tweeties stupid and uninformed...if they can be any more stupid and uninformed.
Dutch Wonderland is for littler kids. We go ever summer at least twice and sometimes for their Winter Wonderland. Yes they have a few rides that an older kid might like and they have the lagoon area. But as a mom of littler kids (8.5, 6 and 3.5) I would hesitate to let them play in the lagoon area if there were a ton of older kids there. They have redone the entire back island but it's robot dinosaurs and a "dig" site. I bring my almost nine year old only because her two brothers really love it. She's kind of shy and timid so she really doesn't mind the tamer rides Ironically, I just had a conversation with hubs about DW verses Hershey park because we are sort of aging out of DW. His argument is that Hershey has Camp Snoopy for our littlest and the older two would have more to enjoy. Kate's kids are too old for DW. Hershey park is not that much farther down the road and is a much more age appropriate choice.
And yes route 30 on that stretch is awful. We come from the home of the famous "curve" and take the turnpike and come in from the opposite side so we don't have to sit in traffic for an extra hour.
OT to the locals. Has anyone ever been to the Leola produce auction? What's it like and any tips on going? I want to can up some stuff for next year. (Starting with strawberry jam of course)
What a difference between how she looks in that photo and how she looked at the Block Party. Someone definitely helped her with her makeup and choice of dress.
All I know by her lack of tweeting is that they are filming. Period. And so starts summer vacation, not the sleeping in late and lounging by the pool. That was BS so people would not know about the filming schedule. She going to rack in as many of those $40k episodes as she can this summer. Bad mistake. Most of the kids are probably tired of this year after year. They never get to enjoy these outings. It's posing for the cameras to get the scene then on to the next shot. They are not little innocents like before who don't really understand the process.
Drive-by said..,
My god, you have a poster here who can cite the date and source of every word that has ever come out of the woman's mouth. If that is not a sign of over-investment, I don't know what is.
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You, dear drive-by, never miss a comment by strangers on a blog that you hate. Tell us again what is and isn't a sign of over-investment.
Just for you, here are a bunch of commas. ,,,,,,,, Yes, there are 8 of them.
. But as a mom of littler kids (8.5, 6 and 3.5) I would hesitate to let them play in the lagoon area if there were a ton of older kids there.
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That's a really good point. If a park is generally known as a park for little kids, especially if there are water areas for them, it can be a little uncomfortable to have much bigger, stronger and at times rowdier teenagers playing next to your four year old. And a "dig" doesn't sound very teenager to me. More like kindergarten.
Let the little kids have their kiddie park. There are plenty of parks for older kids.
The ONLY reason they did this was so they could spend half the episode showing clips of their cute baby days, watch. Not because this was a park they might actually ENJOY.
I have also noticed in the past year TLC doesn't seem to want to film except on vacation. Nice convenient way to get around the child labor laws, which are much stricter if you're in school.
PJ (#29), my favorite part of that snotty comment is that I had
a comment posted right above it, saying I was worried about
putting an inaccurate TFW quote for fear the drive-by would
scold me. It was purely coincidence that it preceded the new
comment, but being the bitter, blackhearted busybody I am,
I got a charge out of it!
Now there's a reality show: "Bitter Blackhearted Busybodies."
Or, as they'll call us in the forums, "B3." Hose off those
Crocs and iron those muumuus, gals -- rumor has it there's
going to be some openings in TLC's lineup!
I agree with Admin that it's so they can use old cuter footage in flashbacks while they show them there as older kids. Could also be yet another sick and desperate attempt that both TLC and Kate make to try and make the kids seem younger than they are. While I'm happy they're finally out of high chairs and are no longer using sippy cups, they are still referred to as "the little kids."
They're ELEVEN! Three years from high school! When I was 11, I was baby-sitting and riding my bike to middle school, where I had seven different classrooms and was responsible to get to each one on time, etc.
As someone pointed out above, the twins were complaining about going to DW at SIX because it was a "baby place." It's ironic how the twins had to grow up too fast while the six aren't allowed to grow up at all.
Let's face it, it is never about what the kids want or what might be age appropriate for them. It is always about what TLC and TFW decide to do. This Dutch Wonderland place serves two purposes; yes, TLC can cut in old clips for a cheaper show and I bet DW allowed them to film sans those pesky real people who came to enjoy the park on their own dime. Age appropriate, who cares? Birthday was last month anyway, right? Just another day in the not so carefree summer.
OrangeCrusher1
I wonder if they will reenact other old episodes so they can splice in lots of filler footage of them as babies.
What's next, the kids go to the pumpkin patch? Thomas the train exhibit?
These poor TEENS and pre-TEENS.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 34
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Well, they did react pumpkin carving in the fall special (adding that stupid pumpkin smashing game they all hated) which Kate said was a good memory from that early show- when she started cleaning up & spoiling the fun before Jon and the kids finished carving. The kids were miserable that day as I recall,and also on the reenactment day. One child sarcastically said in the ouch interview 'that was such FUN' or something like that.
According to this article, the Bates family is the #1 show on UP.
I wonder if they knew about Josh, and if they've questioned their daughters if Josh......well, you know....
http://www.knoxnews.com/knoxville/pop-culture/ets-bates-family-praying-for-our-dear-friends-the-duggars
Winsomeone said... 25
Think she got them under contract to film right away, so if it comes up in court before that same judge they had before, he will say since they are all under contract, there is nothing he can do to stop the filming, and it must go on.
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My question is for admin and all the other legal eagles on the board. Winsome makes a good point and I can see that TFMJG might use the "we're under contract and already filming" but surely Jon has already gotten Hannah's statement/wished re: filming locked down thru seeing a therapist. So Hannah's wishes would clearly supercede TFMJG's argument, right? Surely she does not have to get up in court to testify.
ACKKK, I am so sorry, it is Doubletree by Hilton resort , NOT The Marriott. I have no idea how I mixed that up. I will go back under the venanda now.
If the Duggar girls slept thru the whole thing and remember nothing, how do they know that they weren't raped?
From their brother who has a vested interest in not telling the truth?
And what about their younger sister who was in the laundry room? Or the one sitting on his lap? She wasn't sound asleep. And she remembers.
David Perel @IMPerel 4m4 minutes ago
11 things the #Duggars are still hiding after 2 interviews http://bit.ly/1cEMPyr #InTouch magazine #DuggarInterview #DuggarScandal
Apparently the older sister's hubby graduated from a large, secular D-1 university,Oklahoma State with a business degree. For 2 yrs he also served as the school's mascot (lol), as his dad did when he attended.
So at least he can support and provide for his family (but I doubt they have a super size family)...wouldn't it be wonderful if he encourage his wife to get a college degree???
The younger married daughter's hubby just received his associate degree in political science. So what are his plans now? Continue to mow lawns or pursue higher education? Jessa seems to be somewhat intelligent so it would be wonderful if she'd get an education as well.
The only bright spot to appear out of this mess is that MAYBE this frees the girls to be able to rid themselves of the quiverful cult-like thinkin....and maybe the boys too, hopefully they can get a real education so they can support themselves, and see that women are more than a vagina.
My granddaughter is the same age as the twins. If I were to ask her to go to Dutch Wonderland with us I think she would laugh - no - GUFFAW !
FREAKING UNBELIVABLE how BAD this Duggar saga is!!! Jim Bob and Michelle are rotten to the very core. All they care is about saving the show, saving the money flow!
The plane that Jim Bob owns was flown to meet with their PR specialist just before the Fox interview to save their show. FUNNY, that they go to a PR Specialist and refused to take Josh to a Licensed Professional to get him help and the girls also! Bastards! \\
Makes me so sad that John David flew that plane. Another male in that household to betray the girls. The headline on InTouch? showed a picture of the girls and it said, The Duggar Men failed their girls something like that. I can't find that cover. I wish there was a website where you could go and just see just the new magazine covers. People, Intouch, National Enquirer.
Kate is a twit, can you find the cover of Intouch with the pictures of the girls with the headline?
http://www.intouchweekly.com/
This ought to be hilarious. Donkey clomping around an infantile theme park. Will vanity win out and will she go for the doubled spanx, miserable, full body sausage casing or will she let that thick waist of hers breathe? Inappropriate high heels or comfortable shoes that show off the stumps? What's a delusional, still homely donkey to do??? My condolences to the kids. This will NOT be fun for them
I posted this earlier but I do not see it, so I will try again.
ACKKKK, I am so sorry, it is the DoubleTree Hilton Resort NOT the Mariott. I have no idea why I used the wrong name. I will go back under the Veranda now.
May said... 42
My granddaughter is the same age as the twins. If I were to ask her to go to Dutch Wonderland with us I think she would laugh - no - GUFFAW !
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It depends on the person. If a kid is used to the larger theme parks with bigger and better rides, then yes, Dutch Wonderland wouldn't appeal to them. If a family can afford to go to Hersheypark for a day, that's where they will go. However, for tourists in the area, or for a nice place for a family to spend a day. Dutch Wonderland is an option, especially for a family on a budget. For a family of four, It would be a savings of more than a hundred dollars for the day, and for many families, that's a big chunk of change. Many kids are happy to spend a hot summer day doing the water park/slides thing, including teens, if it means saving money and not having to drive to Hershey or Allentown.
I wonder if the reason they chose the Hilton is because it's more out of the way, a more rural area, less crowded, more private, with no chance of the feeding frenzy of photographers rushing them. Oh, wait. Those days are long gone.
On the other hand, maybe admin is correct and this was a quick thing. The Eden is an extremely busy place this time of the year with graduations and weddings events and could have been booked. Maybe not even TLC and all of its pull could manage to get accommodations there.
(Leslie)
This is an excellent article and I recommend everybody here read it. It does a great job summary the interviews. 11 things the #Duggars are still hiding after 2 interviews http://bit.ly/1cEMPyr
One thing Michelle said that nobody has mentioned was when she told Josh that the bible states (paraphasing) that when you cover your sins you will not prosper. And according to Michelle, because Josh did not cover his sins everybody forgave him and he was blessed.
The ironic thing is the Duggars covered the sins of their son from TLC, Josh's employer, and their viewers of over a decade and look where this action landed them. Perhaps had they been more honest and address this then they would not be in the situation they are in. If they claim their TV show is a ministry then why not share this struggle with their audience. People in glass homes should not throw stones.
Mary Ann said... 38
ACKKK, I am so sorry, it is Doubletree by Hilton resort , NOT The Marriott. I have no idea how I mixed that up. I will go back under the venanda now.
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LOL, Mary Ann. Is it cooler down there under the Veranda? At least you won't have to share the rumspringa!
There is a very nice Courtyard by Marriott in the area, very close to Dutch Wonderland. Maybe, though, that also was booked or she just never thought about that one. Then again, I'm sure the Red Roof, Budget Inn or Motel 6 within minutes from the amusement park would have left the light on for them!
What's next, the kids go to the pumpkin patch? Thomas the train exhibit?
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Young Chef's Academy or a character breakfast with Big Bird at Sesame Place. I don't think Thomas is in town until the end of the month!
I get that the Duggars feel betrayal about the records becoming public, even if it was only the police report. They should note that the impetus for the betrayal came from people within their own ranks, who wanted the story out.
It wouldn't be such a big story, IMO, if they did not always over moralize on their own show. They over emphasized sex to a ridiculous degree. We may now see an excuse for the elaborate courtship rules and rituals, but what this does is put sex on the kids' minds even more. It becomes an obsession. My feeling is that this obsession was not something that post-dated the molestation, but rather predated it. Additional controls may have been added afterwards, but I believe it was always there because they bought the whole Gothard system years earlier. It's wrong, most of the audience know it was wrong and could the harm done and extreme awkwardness it caused. They want people to admire their way (the show was their ministry) but their narrow, prejudicial system didn't allow them to accord their viewers any respect at all for their believes. It's a two way street, Duggars.
LOL, Mary Ann. Is it cooler down there under the Veranda? At least you won't have to share the rumspringa!
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Yes she will.
Speaking of the over-invested...did Gladys comment on
the picture the wasted teenager sent of himself with
TFW? She usually doesn't miss an opportunity to blow
smoke up TFW's skirt when she's seen being nice
(read: not giving the finger) to strangers. I thought
Gladys would immediately tweet something clever like,
"A meet N greet is always sweet when it's K8 U meet!
#Kind2All#WinningSmile#AlwaysUp4Fun!"
Or did Gladys ignore the picture, trying to support TFW's
pretext of being home lounging by the pool and slowing
down for summer? Oh, the "skulDUGGARy."
That's the thing Border by their own admission they said they pretty much told their whole community, some more details than others. InTouch was very clear their tip off was from inside the community. They have only themselves to blame for being so open with their friends. If they want to say they were betrayed, then they need only look at their own flock. Don't shoot the messenger. What do you EXPECT the media to do when something this huge about a public family is dumped in their laps? Why are they special but not Bill Cosby, John Edwards and lots of other people who have been outed?
To your other point about them talking so much about sexual purity on the show, I wholeheartedly agree. They've peddled that agenda for years, forced it to become a part of the public discourse. You don't get to do that then turn around and say we can't question them and look into their own backgrounds.
Their argument would be a bit more compelling if they have STFU about their sex lives all this time. I mean even taking Kate for an example, SHE doesn't talk on her show or otherwise about sex or her beliefs about it. For goodness sake, Kate herself has a much better case for trying to say stories about the family and sexual things should be private. SHE doesn't talk about it. THEY did.
Maybe TFW and company are going to become the new face of PA tourism and will film at various spots around PA this summer showing them having a good time on a budget. They did that "pilgramey" thing last summer so maybe they're doing an Amash thing now.
Mary Ann said:
"ACKKKK, I am so sorry, it is the DoubleTree Hilton Resort NOT the Mariott. I have no idea why I used the wrong name. I will go back under the Veranda now."
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Oh, that's okay. No worries. Problem is that someone on Twitter picked up on the "Marriott" goof here and now local fans will be descending upon that hotel in hopes of running into her there. They may have a long wait! lol!!
11 things the #Duggars are still hiding after 2 interviews http://bit.ly/1cEMPyr #InTouch magazine #DuggarInterview #DuggarScandal
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Another EXCELLENT breakdown from InTouch, an overview of the family's lies, with each and every contention backed up by a cite to a report or other hard evidence refuting the family's crap.
Good job InTouch.
Re-making memories. Ahhhhh....TLC, the possibilities are endless.Teenagers LOVE eating ice cream for dinner and being yelled at for frolicking on the grass! How about a Sarah Palin reunion? I'm sure Piper misses her BFF. They can reenact their adorable bonding scene where Kate snarls, "do you actually LIKE camping?" (what a *bundt). Everyone can sit on a baby potty on the driveway and pee on camera. Oh what fun!! Donkey saw to it that her kids have so many memories. Now if they only could forget them
I was wondering why TLC would put the Gs in a hotel when DW/Lancaster is so close to their home, but then I remembered the recent pictures Kate posted. The kids in the pool (what happened to the "tradition" of opening the pool for the younger kids' birthday in May?), the flags along the drive, which showed the lack of landscaping this year, and a picture of Shoka that showed bare spots on the lawn. I think Kate assumed that she could get TLC to pay for opening the pool and weeding/landscaping/sprucing up the lawn, just like they did last year when they filmed the kids' birthday. But TLC might have balked at the expense, and decided that a night or two at a hotel was cheaper than maintaining Kate's huge lawn and her pool. That's why the grass was in such poor shape, there was no mulch and hostas around the trees and bushes, and why Kate waited for so long to open the pool. She had no intention of paying for it herself. Those expenses are hers, all hers.
Another expert is saying the judge MAY have had authority to say they can't release the records but no one thinks she had any jurisdiction to order the records be DESTROYED. She should have order further redaction or for them to be sealed if she was going to do anything.
Haven't heard that point brought up. That judge's bogus order is not being brought up enough. InTouch has got a couple legal experts on the line saying the hearing was also unjust because the media wasn't invited to present their side.
We had a hearing once with the Los Angeles Times in my court because they wanted that family's case to be open to the media under a California statute that allows the media to come in if there is a compelling interest. They were allowed to send their lawyer and address the judge just like I could and all the other parties. When we appealed it they were also allowed to write briefs for the appeal.
Kelly repeatedly attacked the media for reporting the story, but FOIA documents obtained by In Touch show that Fox also tried to get the police report to report the story AFTER it first came out. Their request was denied.
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Holy shit. Kelly!!!
What makes anyone think the Gosselin special snowflakes will be happy with Dutch Wonderland?
They've flown first class to Australia, had a behind the scenes thing only for them every place they go, places shut down for their sole use, only Kobe beef tips, boatloads of sea food hand delivered and cooked, and on and on.
Only the top notch places for them, and it has to be shut down so no one stares at them. I get the impression that the Gosselin woman does not enjoy the simpler things in life, like digging in the sand with her kids.
Highly doubtful the speshul snowflakes are going to enjoy playing with the riff raff in a crowded theme park that's meant for 5 year olds.
Flimsyflamsy... you've got Gladys down pat!!
I have also noticed in the past year TLC doesn't seem to want to film except on vacation. Nice convenient way to get around the child labor laws, which are much stricter if you're in school.
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I really wonder if Kate can ever get away with filming so much during the school year now that the kids are older and missing class is more impactful.
I would think that Jon would have more of a say, too, and insist that his kids not be made to work when they should be in school.
I would hope so, anyway.
Frankly, it's bullshit that Kate put the kids to work before the ringing of the final school bell faded from their ears.
Now there's a reality show: "Bitter Blackhearted Busybodies."
Or, as they'll call us in the forums, "B3." Hose off those
Crocs and iron those muumuus, gals -- rumor has it there's
going to be some openings in TLC's lineup!
June 7, 2015 at 6:47 AM
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Oh good! I am pinky swearing everyone in my life to secrecy, and making sure my criminal records are sealed!
I'm ready for my close-up!
? Birthday was last month anyway, right? Just another day in the not so carefree summer.
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So, so phony.
I wonder if the kids got a real party, with friends.
Or, maybe they'll invite friend for the fake bday at Dutch Wonderland.
I wonder what the expensive, grifted, product-placement, one-size-fits-all- gift will be this year!
Here is the recap from the interview on Duggar: Life is more than pickles and hairspray Facebook page. Admin: Pickles.
http://tinyurl.com/qgdm386
Interview Recap of "Michelle and Jim Bob's Damage Control-apalooza"
Sorry this is so long. Interviews like this won't happen again, will it Duggars? If there are any other secrets you've got hidden release them now. Just get all the crap out of the way so we don't need to focus on another two weeks of horrible revelations, child victims, sexual perverts, lies, slander, hypocrisies, secret agendas, threats of revenge, hiding out, watching Faux News (puke), and other such nonsense. Let's fully open that Pandora's Box. Look Josh, I used that phrase correctly!
I have leftovers from neighborhood party yesterday. We got together to watch the Belmont Stakes and celebrate the most recent Triple Crown winner!
Anyway, I will be on the verandah with Kings Hawaiian rolls and Costco chicken salad, along with blue corn chips and mango peach salsa and plenty of ice tea! Yes, I will pass some down under the verandah. Y'all come on up here, it's ok.
Do the duggars have a porch and should we send a search party to start digging under there to look for Josh?
They want people to admire their way (the show was their ministry) but their narrow, prejudicial system didn't allow them to accord their viewers any respect at all for their believes. It's a two way street, Duggars.
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I think this is the crux of the matter, and I'll re-post this again, because I think it reveals Jim Bob's intolerance, glibness and disregard for others:
"They won't succeed," Jim Bob, 49, said at Booster Banquet at Hannibal-LaGrange University last month on Nov. 21. "Our show is the number one show on TLC. We love everybody. It’s a small group creating this fuss. All it has done is give us more exposure."
He added that the petition was counter-effective, instead calling more attention to his family's reality show. "We’ve gained 50,000 Facebook fans last week," the father of 19 noted (via MBC Pathway). "God is expanding our borders through the national media."
Read more: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jim-bob-duggar-19-kids-and-counting-petition-brought-more-exposure-20141712#ixzz3cOlfTuEx
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 57
Kelly repeatedly attacked the media for reporting the story, but FOIA documents obtained by In Touch show that Fox also tried to get the police report to report the story AFTER it first came out. Their request was denied.
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Holy shit. Kelly!!!
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Oh, this is delicious.
Scrumptious.
I might eat so much of it, that I explode when I wash it all down with a wafer thin mint
Burp.
Tucker's mom said-
I wonder what the expensive, grifted, product-placement, one-size-fits-all- gift will be this year!
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lol! Maybe a new dishwasher. Or new sheets so they can be changed more than once a month. (Gag...). Gift certificates for meal delivery service, maid service, lawncare.... Oh my, there are so many things TLC can be forced to give them at donkey's behest.
I'm almost surprised the family didn't trot Josh out for his own
interview, using his very pregnant wife along side him as a human
shield. There would never be a better time for softball questions.
If things got too uncomfortable -- as those pesky incest interviews
tend to do -- she could pretend to go into labor. Interview over,
deposit the paycheck.
Another good article...
http://gawker.com/the-truth-about-josh-duggars-sham-cult-center-counseli-1709335574
Too bad about Hobby Lobby. I kinda liked that store until I found out a while back what they stood for.
Great quote from redbird's link above...
" This all happened in 2002 when J. Bob was running for U.S. senate on a platform that those who commit incest should be executed. Too bad he lost. Josh might have been executed by now."
Confirmation that Kate and the kids were at the Double Tree.
Lydia Rhodes @Lil_Bruin · 16h16 hours ago
We saw Kate plus 8 at Double Tree and my mom got mad salty, and has been bitching all day
So we know they were definitely at the DT, but are uncertain about DW. I just wonder if there were any other events or attractions nearby where they might have decided to film.
Or it could be that their 11th birthday episode is a look back at places they visited 8(count em, 8) years ago, so they go back and revisit those place--DW, Thomas the Train, etc. so Kate can wax and wane about how they are growing up so fast (sob).
Mel said... 73
Another good article...
http://gawker.com/the-truth-about-josh-duggars-sham-cult-center-counseli-1709335574
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Jeeze! I can only take reading that article in short spurts. What a flaming load of BS!! And to think that TLC is actually pondering putting the Duggars in one form or another back on TV so they can spread their "ministry?" I'm speechless.
That quote from DimBulb at the banquet: "We love everybody."
No, you don't! Own it! You freely state that people whose
beliefs differ from yours are condemned to go to hell! That
it's "common sense" to keep transgender people out of
bathrooms with children, when it is highly likely that you
have never had one single personal encounter with a
transgender person! How the bluedilly eff is that love?
Kate is a twit said... 75
Confirmation that Kate and the kids were at the Double Tree.
Lydia Rhodes @Lil_Bruin · 16h16 hours ago
We saw Kate plus 8 at Double Tree and my mom got mad salty, and has been bitching all day
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That was pretty ballsy of Kate to have sent that tweet about relaxing and trying to give the impression they were doing so at the Konpound.
But TLC might have balked at the expense, and decided that a night or two at a hotel was cheaper than maintaining Kate's huge lawn and her pool. That's why the grass was in such poor shape, there was no mulch and hostas around the trees and bushes, and why Kate waited for so long to open the pool.
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Unless those were stunt hostas, they should be back every year. No idea why there were none to be seen.
Mel...73...Another good article...
http://gawker.com/the-truth-about-josh-duggars-sham-cult-center-counseli-1709335574
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Is this what's known as speaking in tongues? Because, seriously, not a word of that propaganda from IBLP made any sense to me at all.
I can't decide if everyone in this group of wackadooos are scam artists or if they actually believe this drivel. Either way, it's beginning to make me feel queasy whenever the Duggar name pops up on my computer screen.
Lydia Rhodes @Lil_Bruin · 16h16 hours ago
We saw Kate plus 8 at Double Tree and my mom got mad salty, and has been bitching all day
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What the heck is mad salty?
That was pretty ballsy of Kate to have sent that tweet about relaxing and trying to give the impression they were doing so at the Konpound.
June 7, 2015 at 12:05 PM
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She's the scorpion. That's just what she does.
AuntieAnn said... 52
LOL, Mary Ann. Is it cooler down there under the Veranda? At least you won't have to share the rumspringa!
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Yes she will.
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You've got that right Auntie! Welcome all the same Mary Ann :)
For a woman so obsessively worried about defrauding men Michelle surely does wear a *lot* of makeup.
Did any of y'all think it odd that every kid in the police report had their favorite game as broomball?
Surely one or two must like something else....surely....
re: stunt hostas. lol The people who lived next door before my current wonderful neighbors always put fake flowers & frippery in the window boxes!? I always wondered about the logic behind that.Probably had fake fruit in a bowl , too.
I mentioned this before, but Kate seems to have a lot of houseplants, which is nice- but she doesn't seem like a plant person to me!
Formerly Duped said... 86
re: stunt hostas. lol The people who lived next door before my current wonderful neighbors always put fake flowers & frippery in the window boxes!? I always wondered about the logic behind that.Probably had fake fruit in a bowl , too.
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omg, too funny... I always plant red geraniums in (the center of) my window boxes. I put a stunt geranium in there to keep it looking pretty even when the real plants are in between blooms.
I thought no one would be able to tell!
AuntieAnn said... 52
LOL, Mary Ann. Is it cooler down there under the Veranda? At least you won't have to share the rumspringa!
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Yes she will.
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Oh Yeah! X8
franky
I mentioned this before, but Kate seems to have a lot of houseplants, which is nice- but she doesn't seem like a plant person to me!
June 7, 2015 at 1:06 PM
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She doesn't have finesse.
"God is expanding our borders through the national media."
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If one believes JimBoob, then it stands to reason that God got tired of the Duggar hypocrisy and REALLY expanded their borders with the national media. LOL.
Does anyone else hope In Touch will eventually get around to exploring how Josh and Anna were able to buy a house despite owing back taxes? Are the paps hanging out around the Duggar homes trying to get the first shot of Josh?
Tucker's Mom said... 81
Lydia Rhodes @Lil_Bruin · 16h16 hours ago
We saw Kate plus 8 at Double Tree and my mom got mad salty, and has been bitching all day
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What the heck is mad salty?
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Mad salty= very pissed off about something
Tucker, lol. Did you used to live next door to me? No, j/k/ I'm sure yours looks great. These were really fake-looking.
I just read the article about spiritual counseling and must say my heart is crushed to hear this is considered Christian by anybody's standards. It leaves me cold and speaks poorly for pastoral counseling. I am so sorry for this misrepresentation of what we offer our congregants.
LOL. Mad Salty.
Oh I bet when they are filming, that section of the park is shut down. I think that's what Figure 8 does. They have in the past. That way she does not have to hang with the dirty masses. Hope someone tweets if TFM is there.
That is called: Kate logic & thinking. Which means, when I am silent on twitter:
1 I'm filming,
2. I am away,
3. kids are not home
4 Kate is going to an event
5. Kate is up to something
6. Kate is busy with a law suite .
See like the Duggars: the Duggars have:
Duggar time(it's the time when they can get their act together and get moving, like for a trip, appointment etc.)
Then their is Duggar logic & thinking:
1.which is the whole Josh scandal,
2. their own language:
A.Nike!= look out boys, defrauding women about
B. jurisdiction= Chores
Duggar ideology :
1. keep having kids till you can't
2. believe whole heartly in Gothard teachings
3. females are like Eve, they are second class citizens, and like merchandise
4. males are very important= they continue the name, head of the household etc,
5. males get defrauded by females all the time
Are there any more?
I really think this defrauding has a lot to do with JimBob, it's mostly his thinking. Cause, over the years, they had mentioned Michelles teen years. And Michelle was less then innocent. She was a cheerleader(wearing short skirts, Jimbob in last show , mentioned Michelle wore a bikini, cutting the grass, Michelle had a lot of boyfriends before she met Jimbob, then a friend took her to some church, and then Michelle was a born again Christian? Sorry, Michelle and the rest of you, God, does not go away, he is always with you and there, your the one who turned your back on him. So after all the sinning, you find God again? Laughable. So now both are trying to live a Christian life, which there is nothing wrong with that, but when you start pointing a finger at other people lifestyles and religions, and you have skeletons in your own closet, and you get caught or criticized for it, don't play the ignorance card, cause most people won't buy it.
Of course TKC would balk about expenses. They just laid out big bucks for the Cancun vacation.
Sheeple Herder said... 91
Tucker's Mom said... 81
Lydia Rhodes @Lil_Bruin · 16h16 hours ago
We saw Kate plus 8 at Double Tree and my mom got mad salty, and has been bitching all day
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What the heck is mad salty?
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Mad salty= very pissed off about something
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But, wait, everyone lurvs Kate!!
I think I'd be mad salty if Kate and her whole camera crew entourage invaded somewhere I was vacationing or doing something fun and relaxing.
Susan1956 said... 90
Are the paps hanging out around the Duggar homes trying to get the first shot of Josh?
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For sure, unless God smitted (or would that be smote) them all.
Summer is in full swing here&enjoying it to the MAX! We are already in ‘relax’ mode and it feels SO nice to be able to slow down&warm up!������
LIAR!
Tuckers mom: remember in one of JK8 or K8, Mady complained about the Tups always getting 2 or more birthdays?
Well TLC & Kate must be running out of ideas. And are rehashing old ideas, cause TLC & Kate don't know what to do with the 8. . BORING!
So far 4 old things:
1.carnival party,
2.pumpkin carving,
3.going back to a theme park they went to when they were little
4. beach for the 100th time
What else could they rehash?
I think TLC will take them to a big trip right before school starts.
Mel...73...Another good article...
http://gawker.com/the-truth-about-josh-duggars-sham-cult-center-counseli-1709335574
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Wow...what a bunch of crazy. And in the reader comments someone said "Ooo can we look at this hobby lobby connection a little closer?" And the writer of the article answered with "Ohh don’t worry, IT’S COMIN."
Groan. I think I drank too much rumspringa. But I'm up for some of that chicken salad, Joy. I'll even come out from under the veranda for it.
Unfortunately, for those of us with black thumb syndrome, stunt hostas and geraniums are all we can grow.
So TFMJG is staying at a Double Tree with the rest of the mediocre, hum. Quite a come down from her usual 4 star accommodations. I doubt the kids are that thrilled with going to DW, but then when did she ever consult with them to see what they might enjoy? After all, it's all about her, isn't it? She enjoys humiliating and dominating them.
Sorry, not making much sense today. Maybe I'd better crawl back under the veranda. Auntie, Jolie, Mary Ann, franky have you seen my straw?
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Formerly (#86), TFW doesn't seem like a kid person or a dog
person, but she has those, too.
Maybe that hotel guest was "mad salty" because TFW and her
"entourage" (read: Steve) were taking up too much space and
making too many demands. "Clear out of the john, commoners --
Kite needs privvacy!" Certainly the woman couldn't be
complaining that her lovely hotel visit was being disrupted
by 8 children surrounded by lights, camera, sound, and
production people. Everyone knows that's the most natural
thing in the world!
getoftweeter said... 101
Tuckers mom: remember in one of JK8 or K8, Mady complained about the Tups always getting 2 or more birthdays?
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I think that was in Florida. Kate b.s.'d Mady and said some crap about the tups being born early and celebrating the day they were supposed to be born, too.
I just don't see any draw to seeing the tups have another, non milestone birthday. Sure, 10 is a decade old, so I can see that. But 11?
Whoopdeefuckingdoo.
So who's the lucky helper brought along for this trip -- Deanna
or Jamie? We know Steve is not enough.
Admin, I think you wondered why Deanna hadn't cut ties with
TFW yet. I suppose she's decided to hang in there to get in
on some of these vacays. Even if she had some heavy hitters
for clients, she gets some unique opportunities with TFW
(like Celebrity Wife Swap) that most makeup people woudn't.
I bet she uses TFW just as much as TFW uses her, and
that kinda makes me smile.
Tucker's Mom said... 81
Lydia Rhodes @Lil_Bruin · 16h16 hours ago
We saw Kate plus 8 at Double Tree and my mom got mad salty, and has been bitching all day
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What the heck is mad salty?
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for us Quebecers/Maritimers, means she forgot to censor her inner sailor...AKA Kids pissed her off and she let loose
franky.
ps. we need another couple of kegs down here, man, dees girls are thirsty!
(not me, I am an angel on sundays...bwahahahaha)
Summer is in full swing here&enjoying it to the MAX! We are already in ‘relax’ mode and it feels SO nice to be able to slow down&warm up!������
LIAR!
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This is what I just don't understand. Kate lies through her teeth and thinks her fans will buy it. However, there are locals and others who see her out and about filming. Why does she continue to lie? Certainly by now she should have learned that every time someone will call her out on it. Is she really this dense?
I had thought that some of the sheeple might have a lick of intelligence, but it doesn't seem that way. They still want this circus act for their amusement and viewing pleasure. You want to bang your head on the wall trying to understand this, but in the end, nothing will ever help them see the light. Kate will keep filming and there appears to be nothing anyone can do about it.
For sure, unless God smitted (or would that be smote) them all.
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lol!! I think it's "gave them a good smack-down!"
6. Kate is busy with a law suite .
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Tweeter -- it's law suit, unless she's busy in a hotel suite (with Steve or Jeff)!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/to-get-the-josh-duggar-story-intouch-utilized-solid-investigative-journalism/2015/06/07/f4dabc4a-0bbe-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html
Love this story! Check it out!
Readerlady...
Sorry, not making much sense today. Maybe I'd better crawl back under the veranda. Auntie, Jolie, Mary Ann, franky have you seen my straw?
Yes, I have kept it with me down here while Dugging out the path to Asianish places. It is purple, let me dust it off for you, and since like a gopher my head is peaking out, may I say... WE NEED MORE RUMSPRINGA!
Us gals under here are bout to do a Congo-line...song requests anyone?
Mary Ann is a handful by the way, quick, Rumspringa needed STAT !
thank you
franky, ever the polite Canadian ( who NEVER use children for ratings)
It's nice to see The Washington Post, a multiple Pulitzer prize winning publication, saying what I said, that InTouch did an incredible job with this story.
I really don't care if you are a tabloid or have ties to porn, when you do a good job with a story you should be recognized for it. Every story should be looked at independently, and assessed for its credibility based on the evidence provided---and not immediately written off as tabloid trash as the sheeple love to do. InTouch, systematically, went through each piece of evidence line by line, and backed up every single thing they were saying with the hard evidence. Well done.
Thanks for the welcome, it IS cool here under the Veranda. I think I will go open a bunch of cans and make us all some Kate's Sausage cacciatore
I wonder what a licensed therapist would say about whether it was prudent or had therapeutic value to either the perp or the victims to have the perpetrator stand in front of a congregation and confess his sins, if only vaguely. Seems like another form of public shaming to me, like the hair. I'm no psychologist but I'm guessing most therapists would balk.
InTouch did a great job of explaining how it took them four years to get therapy, and that coincidentally it happened just when DHS was involved. Which probably means they told them get therapy or we're taking the kids. (A common scenario.) In other words they didn't get their kids help until forced to.
I wonder how many of the critics blaming the Duggars story as an agenda of "the liberal media" were the same people who were cheering when the NE outed John Edwards?
The Doubletree. Baw-hahhahaa.
It's no Australia.
JoyinVirginia said... 111
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/to-get-the-josh-duggar-story-intouch-utilized-solid-investigative-journalism/2015/06/07/f4dabc4a-0bbe-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html
Love this story! Check it out!
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I agree. It gives an overview of how this all came about. Good old-fashioned grunt work, making connections, following tips and leads and getting their ducks in a row beforehand.
Perel is a smart guy.
Seems to me, what the Duggars had in Arkansas was a secret that everyone knew about.
You can't be such a huge, public hypocrite and expect to never get ratted out.
I wonder how many of the critics blaming the Duggars story as an agenda of "the liberal media" were the same people who were cheering when the NE outed John Edwards?
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Same question. Fox is just getting embarrassing now. They were all over the John Edwards sotry like a pack of wolves. And now they've been caught trying to obtain the police reports themselves. The same ones Megyn insists it was unethical to obtain. She used the word ETHICS.
This family is bad, this family is NOT Republican, this family is not CHRISTIAN. They are a sect, a cult, terrible people who have used their fame only to hurt others especially the gay community and women, who has improperly borrowed the name of some mainstream groups to do so, and we should all be able to stand united again them and their nonsense and say NO MORE.
I really don't care if you are a tabloid or have ties to porn, when you do a good job with a story you should be recognized for it. Every story should be looked at independently, and assessed for its credibility based on the evidence provided---and not immediately written off as tabloid trash as the sheeple love to do.
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I remember dismissing the John Edwards story because the Nat'l Enquirer released it.
I was wrong.
If me, Jane Q. Public can learn a lesson about not underestimating "gossip rags", then I'd think these reality tv "stars" would too.
Seems to me, what the Duggars had in Arkansas was a secret that everyone knew about.
You can't be such a huge, public hypocrite and expect to never get ratted out.
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We now know the true extent of his arrogance. He actually did expect not to get ratted out.
He thought he was God. He violated one of the ten commandments. False idols. They idolized themselves.
Oh I have always wanted to be in a Conga Line!
I wouldn't at all be surprised if InTouch's work gets nominated for a Pulitzer this year. Someone is going to to submit their body of work for consideration, I'm betting on it. We'll see if the committee thinks this story was important enough to warrant the recognition. Is exposing a reality family important enough journalism to be given a gold star? We'll see.
It might be a first for a tabloid, though I'm not sure.
Oh and if Megyn tries to say those other stories were different because they didn't involve minors.
I present to her John Edwards, which involved a young minor child, and how Fox obtained EXCLUSIVE photos of the child and plastered them everywhere. (They may have since taken them down, but they definitely posted them.) HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT?
It's not, Megyn.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/03/05/john-edwards-mess-baby-1st-birthday-picture.html
So we know they were definitely at the DT, but are uncertain about DW. I just wonder if there were any other events or attractions nearby where they might have decided to film.
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Nothing special that I can think of. The Red Rose Run (five miles through downtown Lancaster) was yesterday.
There's Abe's Buggy Rides, Strasburg Rail Road, Amish Farm and House, Joseph at Sight and Sound (no shows today or tomorrow, though), hot air balloon rides (too windy today), Cherry Hill Orchards (only Saturdays right now), Spooky Nook Sports (largest indoor sports complex in North America), Wizard Of Oz at the Fulton, Reinholds Fireman's Carnival (LOL!).
Nothing really earth-shaking going on right now. It will be interesting to see what they've come up with.
I drove by the Rumspringa Brewery today and really had to smile. There was a group of about ten women getting off a mini tour bus. All of them were wearing bright dresses and some were sporting straw hats. No Crocs that I could see, though. I thought maybe some Veranda ladies had shown up there without me!
This family is bad, this family is NOT Republican, this family is not CHRISTIAN. They are a sect, a cult, terrible people who have used their fame only to hurt others especially the gay community and women, who has improperly borrowed the name of some mainstream groups to do so, and we should all be able to stand united again them and their nonsense and say NO MORE.
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What angers me as a Christian is that they use Jesus Christ as both a weapon and a shield.
And Jessa's newly-minted man-child husband is a bigot.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 60
Another expert is saying the judge MAY have had authority to say they can't release the records but no one thinks she had any jurisdiction to order the records be DESTROYED. She should have order further redaction or for them to be sealed if she was going to do anything.
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There was something much earlier that made me wonder if the police actually had destroyed the records, or if they'd just hidden them away (like in the city attorney's private safe). It was something along the lines of, we've been ordered to destroy the records, and as far as we're concerned, they don't exist. Sorry, can't give them to you.
Is exposing a reality family important enough journalism to be given a gold star? We'll see.
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I think it should be a contender. This story exposes hypocrisy and bigotry. It also reveals the thinly-veiled hatred that some fundamentalist Christians have for pretty much everyone else who isn't them.
We now know the true extent of his arrogance. He actually did expect not to get ratted out.
He thought he was God. He violated one of the ten commandments. False idols. They idolized themselves.
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Jim Bob's biggest idol is power.
I don't think he and Michelle covet things like Kate does. I think he covets control, influence and power.
Way, way before this ever broke, I would feel my blood pressure rise just watching him on some morning show, talking about having more kids. Even after his wife had life-threatening complications, then lost a child!
To put his wife's life at risk, as if he is God Almighty, just angered me.
All that man has to do is say "enough, you're done, Michelle", because she will never say no to him.
He's a monster.
I don't think he and Michelle covet things like Kate does. I think he covets control, influence and power.
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They think they are virtuous because outwardly they are following all the rules of propriety and such.
But their sins are not as tangible as the sin of showing a boobie or saying shit and fuck. Their sins are those harder to define like lust, fame, and other sexual sins, greed, control and power at the expense of others.
It's harder to define this idea that he is a "sinner" because he is power hungry. And JimBob knows it. #they'rebadpeople
Kate? She's just happy with a first class plane ride and some overpriced cuts of meat. In the grand scheme of things, she's harmless.
Now, now, admin (117). It's a nice place. Don't diss the Hilton, formerly Willow Valley Inn and Smorgasbord in the middle of nowhere. There's the Kendig Square movie theater just down the road. Tickets are a bargain price of $2.50 for kids; $4.50 for adults. Surely TLC could spring for a movie night out for the family. Popcorn surprises are really cheap.
Seriously, though, Double Tree does have a lovely courtyard for brunches and receptions and special events. There's also a quaint little chapel on the premises for weddings. I was there not long ago for a wedding and reception and it was really nice. Kate and either Steve or The Millionaire could tie the knot there, have it filmed, and throw a big reception for all of their friends, ex-spouses included.
Oh, dear.There's a medical emergency right now near the Double Tree (honest). I hope the mad salty woman or salty mad woman or whatever didn't haul off and hit someone. I'm sure by now TFM has learned to keep his claws to himself.
I bet anything Josh told his sisters not to tell on him. And the very fact he did while they were sleeping tells them it was wrong and something to be hidden.
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I thought the youngest one was sitting on his lap when she was molested. He was reading to her. Was she sleeping then?
PA Dutch do you listen to the police blotter?
I have an app and I listen in sometimes. I'm a total freak like that.
Medical emergency. Hopefully that underage fan didn't get himself so "plastered" somebody had to call the EMTs.
I thought the youngest one was sitting on his lap when she was molested. He was reading to her. Was she sleeping then?
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He also touched a kid in the laundry room. The report makes it sound like the same kid though I'm not sure. Unless she's a Gosselin, I assume she wasn't sleeping in there. The kid was five.
My impression was those two incidents happened after the initial sleeping incident where he was lurking around while they were sleeping. That suggests he was getting more brazen with his touching, wasn't bothering to sneak around about it anymore, and his victims were getting younger, which is a very grave warning sign.
I think it should be a contender. This story exposes hypocrisy and bigotry. It also reveals the thinly-veiled hatred that some fundamentalist Christians have for pretty much everyone else who isn't them.
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I agree. If they can get past the piddly little cable network reality show thing, they will see this was about finally exposing the right wing hypocritical fundamentalists for everything they are not. The same ones who have worked so hard to set the national agenda, suppress gays and lesbians and women, and come between a woman's right to choose what should happen to her body after she is raped.
They are spreading hate speech, not Christian love. This story is bigger than what's just on its face.
There was something much earlier that made me wonder if the police actually had destroyed the records, or if they'd just hidden them away (like in the city attorney's private safe). It was something along the lines of, we've been ordered to destroy the records, and as far as we're concerned, they don't exist. Sorry, can't give them to you.
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Yes! I remember reading that and thinking that they never actually said the laid a campfire and burned them all up. They were almost intentionally vague. It wasn't that we don't HAVE them anymore. It was that on paper they're destroyed. On paper......
Ha, I like the police and the city attorney.
On another note shouldn't there be a mandatory stay on an order destroying records so that parties can appeal? I don't know what Arkansas's state laws are about that but it seems like there should be.
Medical emergency. Hopefully that underage fan didn't get himself so "plastered" somebody had to call the EMTs.
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Or Kate found out that the Kobe beef wasn't the real thing and threw a hissy!
For a family of four, It would be a savings of more than a hundred dollars for the day, and for many families, that's a big chunk of change.
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The savings ain't worth a bunch of pouty teenagers who just want to be at "cool" Six Flags.
Been there done that.
All that man has to do is say "enough, you're done, Michelle", because she will never say no to him.
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Someone should go into their bedroom and snip him while he's sleeping. No more kids for Michelle. See if he wakes up or sleeps right through it.
PA Dutch do you listen to the police blotter?
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Yes, sometimes. I also check the county communications status that updates every minute. I'm nosy like that, especially if I'm going somewhere and I want to know what routes are tied up with accidents and road work.
What angers me as a Christian is that they use Jesus Christ as both a weapon and a shield.
And Jessa's newly-minted man-child husband is a bigot.
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He really is one odd dude, isn't he? Creepy as they come.
OMG she DID say that there was a LESBIAN AGENDA!!! Good ear, Leslie!
And then Jim Bob suggested it was a BRIBE!!!
I choked on my coca cola.
Do you want to talk about suing for illegally releasing a report, Duggars? Let's talk about LIBEL for accusing someone of BRIBERY.
June 3, 2015 at 7:14 PM
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I've listened to this 10 times and Michelle never said "Lesbian Agenda".
She clearly says "Must be an agenda".
She does NOT say Lesbian agenda.
Just trying to keep things real here. There's already enough crazy going on with this story, with the Duggars AND the many people commenting.
Yes, sometimes. I also check the county communications status that updates every minute. I'm nosy like that, especially if I'm going somewhere and I want to know what routes are tied up with accidents and road work.
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I'm the same way!!
An app like Waze sends somebody like me into heart palpitations. You can actually CHAT with people on the road and ask them WTFs going on up ahead, and people can upload pictures.
Swoon!
An app like Waze sends somebody like me into heart palpitations. You can actually CHAT with people on the road and ask them WTFs going on up ahead, and people can upload pictures.
Swoon!
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Hey Wazer!
I've listened to this 10 times and Michelle never said "Lesbian Agenda".
She clearly says "Must be an agenda".
She does NOT say Lesbian agenda.
Just trying to keep things real here.
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If you read further comments you'll see that we figured out that "must-be-an agenda" sounded like les-"be-an agenda" to some of us (to make it even harder to hear, JimBoob was talking over her at the same time), but was actually must be an agenda. Honest mistake.
We always kept it "real."
Mary Ann said... 122
Oh I have always wanted to be in a Conga Line!
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well here we are...not EXACTLY a Congo dance, more like what plays when we vacay in Cuba...enjoy, and get yer knees ready! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXnjy5YlDwk
franky
The savings ain't worth a bunch of pouty teenagers who just want to be at "cool" Six Flags.
Been there done that.
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True. But here's the thing. Families come to Lancaster County to do the tourist thing. I would expect that some of them don't have the cash to lay out for the expensive parks, and if they are in this area for their vacation, they can do an afternoon of water attractions and roller coasters right here and not have to drive to Six Flags in New Jersey. They will stay right here in order to save money on admission prices and gas for an out-of-the-way trip.
If you don't have the money to spend at the larger parks, then places such as Dutch Wonderland would be an acceptable option, and older kids can pout all they want.
I think the ladies under the porch should be dubbed the BVD's -
the Below Veranda Dames. Now that Mary Ann is down there,
I think the total is 5, and that's plenty for their own nickname!
So it took 4 YEARS for those idiot parents to get counseling
for their daughters who were repeatedly attacked in their own
home by their brother? That's more than 1200 nights of going
to sleep in fear before THEIR needs, comfort, and mental health
were addressed. Absolutely deplorable. And these girls crowed
about DFS praising their parents?
She's just happy with a first class plane ride and some overpriced cuts of meat. In the grand scheme of things, she's harmless. 130
I respectfully disagree to the extent she has messed up the lives of eight children.
As far as providing "ministry" to the masses I agree.
've listened to this 10 times and Michelle never said "Lesbian Agenda".
She clearly says "Must be an agenda".
She does NOT say Lesbian agenda.
Just trying to keep things real here.
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If you read further comments you'll see that we figured out that "must-be-an agenda" sounded like les-"be-an agenda" to some of us (to make it even harder to hear, JimBoob was talking over her at the same time), but was actually must be an agenda. Honest mistake.
We always kept it "real."
June 7, 2015 at 4:40 PM
Ok...Thanks. I didn't see that addressed in the rest of the comments. Too many to read.
I don't post much, but I enjoy reading here. Y'all are so funny. It's my birthday so I'm going to join your party on the veranda. And don't let TLC film it. lol
What Linda, you mean you didn't read a thousand comments before posting? Gives a whole new meaning to the general rule read before posting!
Just joshing, no worries. Have a slice of birthday cake!
But Kate is rich. She is not a family with no money to go to a more expensive theme park geared toward older kids. TLC is probably paying for it anyway, and a network with that kind of money is not going to be worried about the difference between a 20 buck ticket and a 60, that's pennies to their budget.
I don't know why it's so hard to accept the obvious, they are filming there not because it's a great place for teens, but so they can do another stupid episode where 1/2 of the time they just show old clips of babies. Just watch. It also could be that it was quick and easy to get filming permits for a quick turnaround. It would be harder at a larger corporation like Hershey Park.
Did you hear about Bobby Flay's wife hiring a plane to display a "cheater" banner across the sky as Bobby was getting his star on the Walk of Fame?
LOL!
Well SHE didn't but somebody from her camp obviously did.
And Kate thinks her divorce was nasty!
Question about the Duggar money train.
I remember the 15% trust fund for the Gosselin kids, but was that specific to filming in PA? Are there any trust fund requirements in Arkansas? I thought the Honey Boo Boo family voluntarily contributed to trust funds (not sure if they actually did it or not), but didn't think the TLC contracts said they had to. I don't know what the laws are in Georgia.
I assume all the Duggar money went to Jim Bob when the kids were minors, but did they get new contracts when they hit 18? And if they did, did they just sign the money back over to an account managed by their dad? I assume Jana and Jinger don't have bank accounts of their own (girls), but would John David and Josiah (boys) get their own slice or be expected to give it back to dad? Would the married girls turn it over to their husbands or their dad? Are they even allowed to have individual bank accounts as married women? Did the Duggar girls get to keep the book money or would that have gone back to dad too?
I ask because the girls seem to live off their parents. Didn't the dad buy Jill's house and Jessa lives in Josh's old family rental. Shouldn't they have had enough money of their own (TV show & book) to buy their own homes? Or, did dad sign over the title to the houses as compensation for the show and book?
ncgirl said... 152
I don't post much, but I enjoy reading here. Y'all are so funny. It's my birthday so I'm going to join your party on the veranda. And don't let TLC film it. lol
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I insist you come under the veranda for a real sand pary, if not, I still send this to you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MgQqT3uHY
franky
ps, bring your own straw and a shovel, lol
This was a tweet from Christian PR expert Hunter Frederick on June 4:
"So … I just watched the #DuggarInterview … I mean my goodness you think they would have sought out SOME kind of media training #PRfail"
Assuming he is not surprised, there were reason he turned down the family as clients. His published opinion was that Josh should have done a media interview asap. Instead, Josh is somewhere hiding, probably with a shaved head and wearing sack cloth and ashes.
Thank you FlimsyFlamsy, I am honored to be admitted to the BVDs.
well here we are...not EXACTLY a Congo dance, more like what plays when we vacay in Cuba...enjoy, and get yer knees ready! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXnjy5YlDwk
franky
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Love it franky can't wait to send it to my penguin-loving friend when it's her birthday!!
This was a tweet from Christian PR expert Hunter Frederick on June 4:
"So … I just watched the #DuggarInterview … I mean my goodness you think they would have sought out SOME kind of media training #PRfail"
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I can't keep up with this saga. I thought The Boobster did just that and prior to the interview sent for a PR person in his private plane. Or did I just read it incorrectly somewhere?
I read recent reviews on Trip Advisor regarding Dutch World. Highly rated but the majority of parents say the park is for 2-10 year olds. The only explanation that makes sense, if they filmed there, is that it is a clip show of then and now. And this would just be horrible, but what if Kate and TLC want to film the kids' reactions, like complaining and pouting, because the park is for younger kids?
Seven States require mandated reporters to report instances
when a child is not receiving medical care so that an
investigation can be made. Pennsylvania is one of the states.
Mady's stomach pains for a month. I know there are other examples but I can't think of them right now.
chefsummer, as soon as I read about your cousin on NFNS, I turned the channel to FN and saw your cousin and I remembered seeing her on the show. She is lovely! She has a great future in cooking and on tv.
So it turns out the parents didn't get accredited counseling for Josh or any of the children until they were made to do so by DHS, four years after the fact. And they had the nerve to sit there with Megyn and say "we did everything we could". Just boggles the mind.
I don't think it will happen but it certainly would be interesting if In Touch followed up and did a little research on the judge who ordered that police report destroyed.
I agree that the reporting on this was done very professionally and thoroughly. I think that In Touch may even have more stuff they have so far held back. And by doing old-fashioned reporting, talking to first one person, then another, piecing together the story, that In Touch was able to find this information. I think the Duggars do not have many friends in their community, except perhaps those who are also part of their cult.
I also do not believe the girls when they claim that the people at DHS "praised" the way their parents handled the situation. That is unbelievable on its face If the parents had handled the situation properly, DHS would have been involved 4 years earlier, and further incidents of molestation would have been prevented.
I can hardly believe TLC still hasn't announced the cancellation of the show. What are they waiting for? They are forever going to have the moniker "touching little children."
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 119
This family is bad, this family is NOT Republican, this family is not CHRISTIAN. They are a sect, a cult, terrible people who have used their fame only to hurt others especially the gay community and women, who has improperly borrowed the name of some mainstream groups to do so, and we should all be able to stand united again them and their nonsense and say NO MORE.
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Wow! I just got a vision of you standing on a table all Norma Rae style holding up a sign that says NO MORE! You go, girl!!
They did everything they could....to ignore, deny, cover up.
You gotta wonder if Josh is embarrassed to show his face anymore. And where he is hiding out.
If I was him I'd be uneasy about going to the grocery store or to get gas in the car.
I'm watching Snapped: "Selena, Death of a Superstar." I never really knew all of the details of this, other than that Selena was murdered by the fan club president when Selena ended their relationship.
Oh, my. I can see why Kate needs to watch out for obsessive fans and not ignore them, nor sever all ties with them.She's probably smart in throwing them a bone now and then. Selena's killer was on a power trip; loved being in a celebrity's "inner circle" and when cut off, she snapped because her entire world revolved around being a star's best friend. It was all about attention from a famous person, and when it ended, she had nothing left.
They did everything they could....to ignore, deny, cover up.
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Ha.
They did everything they could four years later after the authorities found out and MADE THEM.
Millicent said... 165
I don't think it will happen but it certainly would be interesting if In Touch followed up and did a little research on the judge who ordered that police report destroyed.
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Yes. And while they are at it, I wish they would do some digging to find out what TLC knew and when they knew it. TLC has been getting off scot-free in all this mess so far, but I don't believe for a second they didn't know what was going on.
I read recent reviews on Trip Advisor regarding Dutch World. Highly rated but the majority of parents say the park is for 2-10 year olds.
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Don't forget, though, that those children don't really seem developmentally mature. Remember their 10th birthday with Kate running around in that darn clown costume and a carnival theme for much younger kids? They were infantiized so long that having just turned 11 they might have enjoyed Dutch Wonderland as much as a younger child.
Mary Ann said... 114
Thanks for the welcome, it IS cool here under the Veranda. I think I will go open a bunch of cans and make us all some Kate's Sausage cacciatore.
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To all you ladies who are partying under the veranda and enjoying mass quantities of rumspringa: I beg of you! Please do NOT ... I repeat, do NOT, consume any of the Kate's Sausage Cacciatore (no offense, Mary Ann!)! It will not end well! And there is not enough floor space in the laundry room to lay all your vomitous selves in there.
You have been warned!
Tim Nelson @timnelsonPDX 42m42 minutes ago
Elizabeth Banks looks exactly like Kate Gosselin in Love & Mercy.
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He means, "In Love & Mercy," Elizabeth Banks looks exactly like Kate Gosselin. As far as I know, Kate hasn't made any movies in which she appears as Brian Wilson's second wife!
If I may share, this is another really good article:
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/07/nail-duggar-media-coffen-gimme-hammer.html
ncgirl said... 152
I don't post much, but I enjoy reading here. Y'all are so funny. It's my birthday so I'm going to join your party on the veranda. And don't let TLC film it. lol
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Hey! It was my birthday too. Happy Birthday to us.
So it was a couple of lesbian women who posted a simple picture of them kissing in front of the Duggar asylum that started this entire Duggar debacle. They were even huge fans of the show but wanted to post a small personal protest and the picture went viral.
One of the women has relatives who live only houses away from the Duggars and it was local public knowledge about Josh. When In Touch contacted the women about their picture they spilled the Duggar secrets and the rest is history.
Local gossip will get ya every time. How in the hell did they think this would never come out!!
Very happy belated birthday to ncgal and settings and roundabouts!
Sherry Baby said... 174
Tim Nelson @timnelsonPDX 42m42 minutes ago
Elizabeth Banks looks exactly like Kate Gosselin in Love & Mercy.
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He means, "In Love & Mercy," Elizabeth Banks looks exactly like Kate Gosselin. As far as I know, Kate hasn't made any movies in which she appears as Brian Wilson's second wife!
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Hmm...I can see the resemblence.
Don't forget, though, that those children don't really seem developmentally mature. Remember their 10th birthday with Kate running around in that darn clown costume and a carnival theme for much younger kids? They were infantiized so long that having just turned 11 they might have enjoyed Dutch Wonderland as much as a younger child.
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I bet the kids would love to be challenged with activities that are more their age. I'm sure they'll make the best of the things more geared to older kids at DW.
I think with Kate, they know they have 1) no choice, and 2) will get to do nothing else all summer unless they capitulate.
Actually, I thought having the girls' bday party at a trampoline park was odd for 14.
I remember 14, and I would have been mortified.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/jill-duggar-celebrates-israels-birthday-amid-scandal-201576
Typical TLC. Deflect. Trot out grand baby photo.
“Life goes on, really,” added Duggar Seewald. “We’re not a TV family, we’re a family who just happened to be on TV.”
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TLC talking point.
Mel said... 168
You gotta wonder if Josh is embarrassed to show his face anymore. And where he is hiding out.
If I was him I'd be uneasy about going to the grocery store or to get gas in the car.
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Can you imagine being Anna? She's pregnant with his 4th child and has to feel the shame. I know I would.
Who is going to let their child play over their house? Or, even let Josh around their children? Or Anna, by association?
The stigma will weigh heavily on Anna and their children. They will be considered society outcasts and sadly, I think this will draw them further into the cult religion and society from whence they came.
I wonder if Anna ever saw the police report, or knew exactly what was in it, before it was released through the FOIA.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2153043/journalist-who-exposed-josh-duggar-i-dont-think-were-done/
Excerpts
Was there an agenda behind exposing Josh Duggar? It turns out that a tip lead to In Touch magazine digging into the Duggar family’s background, and nobody is exposing the source of that first tip. However, when journalist Rick Egusquiza began to dig in, he says he found plenty of people willing to talk. If you haven’t heard it yet, expect it to be the source of new agenda and persecution claims from Duggar supporters: Egusquiza is an openly gay man.
Closing the interview, Equisquiza was asked if he would take on the Duck Dynasty family and find out what they’ve got in their closets next. (Not that Phil Robertson’s anti-gay rant, declarations of longing for pre-civil rights days, suggestion to woo underaged women who will ‘get your ducks,’ or weird fantasy about atheists being forced to watch their children raped and abused did anything to put an end to the show).
The answer to that, though, was telling.
“I’ll get on that, but I don’t think we’re done with the Duggars yet.”
Not yet done with the Duggars? Is there more information already uncovered and yet to be released? Maybe so. According to 5 News, the second law enforcement organization to release information on Josh Duggar released over 50 pages. In Touch has released fewer than 40 pages total, between the first and second police report combined — and only 4 pages of that are from the second report.
The Duggar family moved fast to have Josh’s police report destroyed — perhaps in hopes of keeping whatever else may be in those 50 pages under wraps. They may have successfully prevented any more information from leaving the police record room — but it sounds like the stop may have come too late.
Could this be why Josh Duggar isn’t talking to the press, instead having his parents and younger sisters form a protective shield, speaking to Megyn Kelly in his place?
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2153043/journalist-who-exposed-josh-duggar-i-dont-think-were-done/#ouFzPVUYiyrzmBMl.99
http://foxct.com/2015/05/29/why-hasnt-19-kids-and-counting-been-canceled-well-its-complicated/
Excerpts
One factor some critics are forgetting is that the show is not currently in production, meaning there are no camera crews following around any of the Duggars right now. This takes away some of the urgency from TLC’s internal deliberations.
“Cancelling” the show would really mean “deciding not to resume production as planned.” And that decision doesn’t have to be made immediately.
TLC is in many ways a “red state” channel, one with a fan base among evangelicals who may not want to see “19 Kids” go. (While commentators have focused on legal questions in this case, some high-profile Christian conservatives have called for forgiveness.)
TLC has to wonder whether some fans of “19 Kids” will reject the channel’s other reality shows if TLC appears to mistreat the family.
Maybe that’s why the channel is “butting out,” in the words of one executive, while the Duggar family deals with the scandal.
That may or may not be literally true, but it’s what TLC wants observers to think. Pulling “19 Kids” from the schedule, but not canceling it, was the closest thing to “butting out” that TLC could publicly do.
Announcing something more — for instance, that production won’t be resuming as planned — risks the appearance that the entire Duggar family, including the molestation victims, are being punished.
Conversely, announcing a spin-off anytime soon risks the appearance of exploitation and further reactions from advertisers.
Thus it’s not surprising that TLC representatives declined to comment when contacted for this story.
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I am convinced the show will not resume production, but there will be a spin off.
One prominent reality TV executive previously told TheWrap that the vetting process on cable networks is far laxer than that of broadcast TV.
“The big networks, say, ABC with a show like ‘Wife Swap,’ do an intense screener: full physical and mental health histories and a drug test. People often fail,” the insider said. “When you get to cable, you find it’s not as professional.”
http://www.thewrap.com/9-biggest-duggar-family-questions-raised-after-fox-news-interview-with-megyn-kelly/
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Thanks for posting about how this started. They decided to take a picture in front of the Duggar house and post it AFTER Jim Bob and Michelle asked people to post kissing pictures on their Facebook. They were having to have the same-sex kissing pictures deleted.
But the picture of the lesbians in front of the Duggar house. Viral. Gets the attention of InTouch. The rest is history. Don't you know that they wish they would have never even said, Hey, post your kissing pictures!
I am SO glad that they did!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1626146/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
OT- streamed a really cute little movie yesterday called "Hector and the Search for Happiness".
Really clever, if not a bit cliche.
Lots of great actors in small rolls where they shine.
I can't keep up with this saga. I thought The Boobster did just that and prior to the interview sent for a PR person in his private plane. Or did I just read it incorrectly somewhere?
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The Duggars had intense media training prior to the interview. The thing is, it's up to them, ultimately, how they will react.
They obviously chose to go on the offensive, attack the media and make them the "bad guys" who are hurting the family way, way worse than the actual offender. They also chose to minimize what Josh did, to a degree that was laughable.
In other words, they took the "a little bit pregnant" approach.
Ironically.
It was nothing short of offensive to sit there and watch, and did them absolutely no favors.
How is Josh all of a sudden "cured" from his urges to molest little children? I feel it is like any other addiction An alcoholic could not be trusted tending bar nor a molester be trusted around children even their own. This is really a sick dysfunctional family. They all need extensive therapy, not just head shaving and dry walling a basement.
I hope the girls get some kind counseling, but I doubt the parents would allow it.
just wondering said... 177
So it was a couple of lesbian women who posted a simple picture of them kissing in front of the Duggar asylum that started this entire Duggar debacle. They were even huge fans of the show but wanted to post a small personal protest and the picture went viral.
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Where did you read that? Thanks!
Once again, it's not so much that it happened, it's the lying, cover-up, and most of all the trying to take away other people's rights (people who have done nothing to the Duggars) while pointing to themselves as the most virtuous family ever.
That, and making mega bucks based on a lie. People really hate that.
I bet the kids would love to be challenged with activities that are more their age. I'm sure they'll make the best of the things more geared to older kids at DW.
I think with Kate, they know they have 1) no choice, and 2) will get to do nothing else all summer unless they capitulate.
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Remember the ropes course they did? Most of them ADORED it. It was completely age appropriate, challenging, and stimulating. It was one of the few times most of them calmed down, stopped the constant snipping at each other, and worked as a team.
It makes me sad for them they don't have more opportunities like that. They thrived on that age appropriate stimulation. It doesn't have to be expensive like that, something as simple as joining an age appropriate sports team (all of them, not just Cara) is something they obviously crave. Watching them be dragged hither and yon at a kiddie park that offers nothing in the way of their physical or emotional development for their ages is just sad to even think about.
I am convinced the show will not resume production, but there will be a spin off.
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I'm convinced no one will advertise on it anymore, regular show or spin off. They can't now. They'd be insane to. It's over, and TLC now knows it.
A source close to the Duggar family recently approached Radar claiming to be in possession of a letter written by a Duggar family friend about the molestation incidents. According to the source, the letter discloses the identity of the mysterious fifth victim who did not live in the family home at the time.
I also do not believe the girls when they claim that the people at DHS "praised" the way their parents handled the situation. That is unbelievable on its face If the parents had handled the situation properly, DHS would have been involved 4 years earlier, and further incidents of molestation would have been prevented.
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Beautifully reasoned out. Makes no sense.
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Sherry Baby said... 174
Tim Nelson @timnelsonPDX 42m42 minutes ago
Elizabeth Banks looks exactly like Kate Gosselin in Love & Mercy.
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He means, "In Love & Mercy," Elizabeth Banks looks exactly like Kate Gosselin. As far as I know, Kate hasn't made any movies in which she appears as Brian Wilson's second wife!
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Hmm...I can see the resemblence.
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Whoops. Let me try that again!
I can see the resembance.
TLC stinks said... 182
“Life goes on, really,” added Duggar Seewald. “We’re not a TV family, we’re a family who just happened to be on TV.”
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TLC talking point.
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No, you're not, hon. Not by a long shot.
This is a classic example of a distinction with a difference.
Big difference.
Big.
Huge.
If you haven’t heard it yet, expect it to be the source of new agenda and persecution claims from Duggar supporters: Egusquiza is an openly gay man.
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You poke the bear, you get the teeth.
These people, the Duggars, got as my dear mom would say, "too big for their britches".
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 194
I am convinced the show will not resume production, but there will be a spin off.
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I'm convinced no one will advertise on it anymore, regular show or spin off. They can't now. They'd be insane to. It's over, and TLC now knows it.
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I don't watch the show, but it's my impression that one of the married sisters (with the son, Israel) is an emotional vacuum.
She seems as interesting as cardboard.
Just like J+K+8, the success of the show was the whole family dynamic.
I don't think that a show with just the 2 sisters popping out babies is going to be a ratings grab.
Well, initially, yes, for the looky-loos, but after that, what else is there?
Anything involving the other kids will involve the parents and maybe Josh, and that's going to cut too close to this scandal.
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