http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/tlc-presents/be-the-voice/
http://fortune.com/2015/08/30/tlc-19-kids-duggar/
Sunday, August 30, 2015
Discussion Thread: Breaking the Silence
With little fanfare, tonight TLC airs their promised documentary about sexual abuse awareness. Commercial free. Check local listings.
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/tlc-presents/be-the-voice/
http://fortune.com/2015/08/30/tlc-19-kids-duggar/
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/tlc-presents/be-the-voice/
http://fortune.com/2015/08/30/tlc-19-kids-duggar/
2142 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 2142 Newer› Newest»Looks like old Joshie Boy has been good for business.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/31/ashley-madison-owner-says-more-than-87k-women-joined-last-week.html
So, I'm doing a little digging on the Seewald blog. Seems it came into existance 6, count 'em, 6 days before the announcement of the wedding between his son and the world famous Duggar girl. Hmmmm.
Did he move that blog from a different host or was he jumping on a bandwagon? I'm guessing the later. Free speech, right? I wonder if the Duggars appreciated his spreading the good word. After all, that's what their tv show was for. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there is no love lost between the families, IMO, so I'm not buying the conspiracy theory.
Nothing TLC tries to do surprises me, but I don't believe the public will forget this. I think they're done with the Duggars and all fundy cults. Except the Amish and the Polygamists. cough!
I doubt the Duggars will be back on TV. The disgust people have for this outrageous holier than thou family, does not compare to Kate being so hateful and mean. I doubt the public wants to hear any more of their lies and bigotry and I will bet there is more old Jimboob and Babycakes are hiding. Those kids have never been out in the real world. I feel bad for Jana and Jinger now that they are the "parents" in that household. I can imagine the tension and arguments going on right now in that house. Those kids are probably all being re-blanket trained.
Jill said...
"Hey everyone! August has been a busy month for us and as so many of you know it has ended on a sad note for my extended family. Please do pray for our family. We are so thankful for God’s grace during difficult days."
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Why did she say extended family? Why didn't she specifically say, my brother, Josh? She shouldn't of clumped Josh, Anna and the kids all together. They are innocent. Sounds so watered down like it was a 3rd cousins grandmothers son's nephew. Yada, yada, yada.
foxy said... 3
I doubt the Duggars will be back on TV. The disgust people have for this outrageous holier than thou family, does not compare to Kate being so hateful and mean. I doubt the public wants to hear any more of their lies and bigotry and I will bet there is more old Jimboob and Babycakes are hiding.
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From what I know, which isn't a whole lot, often times people who start committing sexual crimes, like Josh did, at a young age, become sexualized somehow.
And it's not from yelling "Nike!".
They either are victims or witness things and that triggers them to act out on someone else.
I wonder if TLC will show reruns of the Duggar's show. I can't imagine they'd show any involving Josh. People would be analyzing like crazy.
redbird said... 4
Jill said...
"Hey everyone! August has been a busy month for us and as so many of you know it has ended on a sad note for my extended family. Please do pray for our family. We are so thankful for God’s grace during difficult days."
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Why did she say extended family?
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She's addressing it, but keeping distance at the same time. Josh and those most affected are her immediate family.
Ingrid (previous page), your "Panera" joke was brilliant!
So Jill said August ended "on a sad note" -- like someone's goldfish had died. Talk about downplaying something. I guess you she
couldn't say, "I found out the brother who molested me has been
leading a double life for years, and I sure hope he didn't bring an
STD home to my sister-in-law and her unborn baby."
I think Jill and Jessa are hellbent on trying to figure out how (undoubtedly with Daddy's masterminding) to get their promised
series back on the lineup. Their glorious TFW-like futures of
freebies and vacation and house remodeling and fawning fans
have been ruined by their brother's behavior. If these young
women were really all about spreading the word, losing a TV opportunity would mean nothing to them. Sincerely dedicating
one's life to religion was done long before reality TV, and will
be done long after. Plenty of preaching forums available, if
that's what they're determined to do. Find one and pursue it.
So Jill said August ended "on a sad note" -- like someone's goldfish had died. Talk about downplaying something. I guess you she
couldn't say, "I found out the brother who molested me has been
leading a double life for years, and I sure hope he didn't bring an
STD home to my sister-in-law and her unborn baby."
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Well, this is a family who speaketh in euphemisms.
Nike!
and I sure hope he didn't bring an
STD home to my sister-in-law and her unborn baby."
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This really hadn't sunk in for me until you mentioned it. If Josh had unprotected sex, then went home and had sex with his pregnant wife, he could have put his baby at grave risk if he transmitted a STD to her and the baby.
Sheesh.
Since Josh is a product of his strict upbringing, and there are 19 kids, I'd say the chances are good there are some others with sexual issues in that family.
I agree with the premise that if TLC was totally done with the Duggars, they would be erased from their web site. It's definitely throw Josh under the bus per TLC. Jon was totally raked over the coals to keep the Gosselin Eight money train going.
I think it is pretty funny that Kate tweets her loneliness in the bedroom is saved by Shoka's snoring. Let's see...it implies that there has been no man in her bed. Hmm. Maybe the rumors are getting to her. And Shoka sleeping in her bedroom now, after all these years, is really far fetched.
Sincerely dedicating one's life to religion was done long before reality TV, and will be done long after. Plenty of preaching forums available, if
that's what they're determined to do. Find one and pursue it.
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They did. And TLC took it away! :)
I'm reading about the government official in KY who has been ordered by the Supreme Court to issue marriage licensed to gay couples but is still refusing.
Since when can a government employee bring their beliefs into their jobs? Why can't she do her job? If not, she's free to quit and do a job more to her liking.
http://news.yahoo.com/latest-no-marriage-licenses-kentucky-clerks-office-121500253.html
People like this are damaging Christianity, IMO. She's processing a piece of paper that is really none of her business. It doesn't affect her in any way.
Tucker's Mom said... 9
I guess you she couldn't say, "I found out the brother who molested me has been leading a double life for years, and I sure hope he didn't bring an STD home to my sister-in-law and her unborn baby."
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Well, this is a family who speaketh in euphemisms.
Nike!
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Or in this case, Yikes!
I wonder if Quiverfullies practice shunning. If they didn't before, they will now.
P.S. The clerk who's refusing to issue marriage licenses to gays has been married 4 times herself. Ah, the sanctity of marriage has never been more at risk. Maybe Josh Duggar could get a job there when he gets out of "rehab". SMH
I agree with the premise that if TLC was totally done with the Duggars, they would be erased from their web site. It's definitely throw Josh under the bus per TLC. Jon was totally raked over the coals to keep the Gosselin Eight money train going.
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Not only that, but didn't TLC sue the pants off Jon over a morals clause? I thought they hurt him financially.
I wonder if the Duggars had a morals clause?
redbird said... 4
Why did she say extended family? Why didn't she specifically say, my brother, Josh? She shouldn't of clumped Josh, Anna and the kids all together. They are innocent. Sounds so watered down like it was a 3rd cousins grandmothers son's nephew. Yada, yada, yada.
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Because the sad note she is talking about is the end of the TLC gravy train. She isn't concerned that Josh's career and life is in shambles. In her mind he has been forgiven and people should just move on. She is most concerned about the public reaction and how it is financially affecting the entire Duggar family.
TLC stinks said... 11
I think it is pretty funny that Kate tweets her loneliness in the bedroom is saved by Shoka's snoring.
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He'll be allowed to sleep in there until he no longer serves her purpose, or has an accident on the floor. Then look out, he'll get kicked to the curb. She has a nasty habit of doing that.
This sudden attachment to Shoka rings hollow to me. What is she up to now?
Tucker's Mom said... 16
Not only that, but didn't TLC sue the pants off Jon over a morals clause? I thought they hurt him financially.
I wonder if the Duggars had a morals clause?
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"But the suit alleges that Gosselin "in violation of his contractual exclusivity" to his own show, "entered a lucrative arrangement" to appear regularly on Entertainment Tonight and The Insider to discuss his family and the problems he was having with estranged wife Kate. The suit said he also "routinely sold photographic rights to various media outlets ....
"The lawsuit also claims that on Sept. 18, TLC requested that Gosselin be present for filming six days hence. He didn't respond to the request, and no filming took place on Sept. 24."
Read more:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/tlc-is-suing-jon-gosselin-20091610#ixzz3kV3V8oAW
I thought the TLC special was good and it should be replayed over and over, not the boy with 8 limbs. This was actually a good piece. And while the Duggar girls could have used this opportunity to be honest about their experience they chose not to. However, even the experts said, most children molested do in fact move forward and get past the awful abuse that occurred in their young lives.
Perhaps they truly did forgive Josh for what he did. I think they thought he had become a new man. So I can see how the family would be more hurt by his latest actions.
I think trust from Josh will likely never be regained. He will always be given a skeptical look, and even though Anna says she has forgiven Josh, she will never forget, especially in the bedroom.
My cousin is a friend of Amy Duggar. I actually just found this out when she sent me a picture of her and Amy from one of her many pre marriage parties. They had wine and were at a local hotspot in Fayettevile this past weekend. Amy has gone to see Anna. She is living in her and Josh's home and Joy is staying with her. Anna is trying to live as normal of a life as possible. They had been staying in the "guest house" for a short time while the Duggar clan remodeled the repo house. Anna was anxious to get the kids back on their routine and get Mackenzie going with school. Everyone thinks Anna is not coping, but according to Amy, second hand of course, after a couple of glasses of wines with her friends. she said Anna is stronger than people give her credit for. Her strength comes from the Lord and the fact that her children need her now more than ever.
The paps are all over Northwest Ark. They are outside the Duggar home, Anna's home. The Stoneybrook home is vacant, but Amy told my cousin Jill and Derrik will be "keeping" the home until someone else needs it or they have made more permanent decsions on their mission work. Apparently Derrick does have some health issues. Not sure if they were known before he left or if he developed them their.
That's all I know from an "insider", if anyone is interested.
Arkie
P.J....13...Since when can a government employee bring their beliefs into their jobs? Why can't she do her job? If not, she's free to quit and do a job more to her liking.
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Exactly. Any why does she still have a job at all? I have never worked anywhere that wouldn't have fired me the first time I refused to do my job.
That clerk dresses just like the Duggars. If she cannot fulfill her duties as a county clerk per the law, then she should be transferred or dismissed. It's none of her business to judge who should marry. Period.
Kate's attachment to Shoka does indeed ring hollow. I am betting that her new love of Shoka has something to do with TLC paying for a new puppy episode. Anyone care to wager? The bird is old news. With a puppy she can cuddle and coo at it. You know the ol' line about the kids growing up and she needs something to baby because she is the bestest mom ever!
AuntieAnn (#18), we'll see how long the TFW/Shokie bed
buddies situation goes the first rainy/snowy day that Shoka
comes in from the elements and smells like "dog." He'll be
banished in a heartbeat.
Interesting discussion!
TLC could rally get back to being The Learning Channel if they had more shows like the child abuse special. I thought Erin was great with a great message given in a clear articulate non sensational manner. That show should be repeated, and include the commercial breaks so the Duhgars can be edited out.
An article about why Kim Davis, the county clerk who refuses to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, hasn't been fired. Apparently she was elected. But steps are being taken to remove her from office.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/28/1416483/-KY-Marriage-Licenses-Things-Get-Real-for-Kim-Davis#
Exactly. Any why does she still have a job at all? I have never worked anywhere that wouldn't have fired me the first time I refused to do my job.
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She's an elected official. Her mother held the office for 37 years before her. Small town, small minds.
(Leslie)
I'm reading about the government official in KY who has been ordered by the Supreme Court to issue marriage licensed to gay couples but is still refusing.
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I wonder if this official refused marriage licenses to those "living in sin", or those that are adulterers,or those that left their previous husband/wife, etc. I could list a thousand and one sins. Apparently this official thinks it would be a sin for gays to marry. But why is she just targeting gay marriages. I mean if she issues a marriage license to a couple that she knows been living together then what is the difference. I am certain that this official has given many marry licenses to many other sinners. So why is this official just targeting gay marriages. It is so ridiculous. She is not the judge of people. They need to fire her ass. And it is great to know you can violate a judge's order and nothing happens.
Did you know this sanctimonious hillbilly woman is on her FOURTH marriage?
People like this are damaging Christianity, IMO. She's processing a piece of paper that is really none of her business. It doesn't affect her in any way.
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I agree. Christianity is in a state of crisis because of a small minority.
I suppose in her head this is a noble act of defiance. But noble acts in violation of the law are supposed to be because a law is hurting people, not because it's HELPING.
I agree with the premise that if TLC was totally done with the Duggars, they would be erased from their web site.
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I don't put much weight in that. They could be short staffed in the tech department or have someone new. It might not be as easy as clicking delete to get rid of them. They are prominent on the site and swiffering them could take days. Deleting one thing may mess up another part of the site. It's not a simple blog like this one where it's very easy to delete something just like that. It's very possible they're still "working on it."
If they were still airing the actual episodes that would be another matter.
Anonymous said... 27
(Leslie)
I wonder if this official refused marriage licenses to those "living in sin", or those that are adulterers,or those that left their previous husband/wife, etc.
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I believe she's refusing to issue marriage licenses at all. Just so she won't make any mistakes. Actually, I think it's so she won't be accused of discrimination. Or maybe she thinks gay marriage has sullied all marriages, and she's going to prevent any marriages until the Supreme Court sees the wickedness of their ways.
According to Showbuzz Daily, the special had 577,000 viewers with a share of .17.
The show that aired before it on TLC, was the season finale of Who Do You Think You Are, which was about Tom Bergeron. That show had 1.617 million viewers and a share of .33.
So I guess the viewers that watched WDYTYA didn't want to stick around and watch a show about child abuse, or the fact that the Duggars were appearing made them change the channel.
Kate's attachment to Shoka does indeed ring hollow. I am betting that her new love of Shoka has something to do with TLC paying for a new puppy episode. Anyone care to wager? The bird is old news. With a puppy she can cuddle and coo at it. You know the ol' line about the kids growing up and she needs something to baby because she is the bestest mom ever!
September 1, 2015 at 8:29 AM
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I hope Shoka gets to be indoors with his people. But, where is Zorro? It's rather odd that Kate never mentions him anymore. Not one photo.
Oh, and didn't Zorro have an instagram account?
According to Showbuzz Daily, the special had 577,000 viewers with a share of .17.
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That's insanely low. They knew it would be.
They deliberately put this late at night and opposite the VMA's. Of course no one felt like hearing about sexual abuse right then.
I agree with Joy, why not repeat it multiple times so a wide audience gets a chance to see it???
P.J. said... 15
P.S. The clerk who's refusing to issue marriage licenses to gays has been married 4 times herself. Ah, the sanctity of marriage has never been more at risk. Maybe Josh Duggar could get a job there when he gets out of "rehab".
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I wonder if she has more than a high school education
Admin said...
I agree with Joy, why not repeat it multiple times so a wide audience gets a chance to see it???
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Because it was tokenism at its finest. They don't give a rat's ass about the subject, it was a litmus test for the Duggar girls. I think they got their answer, in spades.
How ironic is it that TLC had a show that people could actucally benefit (learn) from and, because of the timing, relatively few watched.
bm
Contempt hearing to held Sept. 3. ACLU Attorneys not asking her to be arrested, but FINED big time since she is not doing her job. If she was to be arrested, she's play the martyr card.
Her husband threatens to invoke his 2nd amendment rights because he says she's been threatened. Forget about separation of church and state for this clown.
Because it was tokenism at its finest. They don't give a rat's ass about the subject, it was a litmus test for the Duggar girls. I think they got their answer, in spades.
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Yes, indeed.
As Carrie Bradshaw once told Big, "we're so over we need a new word for over.
From NY Times:
Gov. Steven L. Beshear’s office had no immediate comment on the confrontation. But in July, Mr. Beshear, a Democrat, said their oaths of office bound the county clerks to perform their duties, including issuing marriage licenses. Most clerks were doing so, he said, and “the courts and the voters will deal appropriately with the rest.”
Some lawmakers have discussed the possibility of changes to state law to address the issue, but the governor has said he will not call a special legislative session, so any action would have to wait until next year.
Some same-sex marriage advocates have said that Ms. Davis, an elected official, should be removed from office, but that would be time-consuming and politically difficult in a conservative state. The state Legislature, where each party controls one chamber, could impeach her, but that is considered unlikely.
Officials have said it might be possible to charge her with official misconduct, a misdemeanor; a conviction could result in a court order removing her. The county attorney has declined to take up the question, referring it to the state’s attorney general, Jack Conway, a Democrat who is running for governor. His office has said it is looking into the matter.
From the Lexington Herald-Leader:
U.S. District Judge David Bunning kindly but firmly told Davis Wednesday that in our system her religious beliefs don't trump the rights of the taxpayers who pay her almost $80,000 annual salary.
Sharing Davis' glow is Liberty Counsel, which describes itself as a nonprofit that provides pro bono legal representation related to "religious freedom, the sanctity of life, and the family," funded by tax-deductible donations and grants. In 2012 those gifts reached just over $3.5 million and in 2013 topped $4.1 million, according to IRS filings.
The husband and wife team who founded and run Liberty Counsel, Anita and Matthew Staver, were paid $137,758 and $153,591, respectively, in 2013. The staff of five ran up $184,479 in travel expenses that year and spent $429,584 on conferences, conventions and meetings. Liberty Counsel paid one independent contractor over $600,000 for "email alert services," and another almost $500,000 for printing and mail services. "Case costs," were reported at $105,487.
Liberty's attorneys know they can't win the case in Rowan County. Same-sex marriage is legal since the Supreme Court's June 26 decision and it's Davis' job to issue marriage licenses.
So, why is Liberty Counsel marching alongside Davis in this losing cause? It takes a lot to keep that marketing machine humming and those executives paid, and the only way to keep those donations coming is to stay in the news. For that purpose a losing cause is just as good as, perhaps better than, a winning one.
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2015/08/13/3987637/time-for-davis-to-do-her-job-or.html#storylink=cpy
According to Showbuzz Daily, the special had 577,000 viewers with a share of .17.
That's insanely low. They knew it would be.
They deliberately put this late at night and opposite the VMA's. Of course no one felt like hearing about sexual abuse right then.
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Including the Duggars in a minor role added to their problems getting viewers. Supporters of the Duggars wouldn't want to watch something that associated their heroes with sexual abuse. People disgusted with the Duggars wouldn't want to watch anything they're on.
What are the Duggars going to do when definitely one child will be "outed" as gay, not to mention names but it starts with a J, and maybe 2 of them. Also, what are the odds that one other child has a warped deviant attitude towards sex.
This family is really quite scary. I would not want one of my children to marry in to that cult.
Can you believe that Cosmopolitan actually did an interview with Kate about the comparison of Justin Bieber's hair to her old cut?
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/news/a45693/kate-gosselin-interview-justin-bieber-hair/
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/news/a45693/kate-gosselin-interview-justin-bieber-hair/
I think Bieber is kicking himself in the ass for putting that hair comparison photo out there. Now he's linked to Kate Gosselin and I'm so sure he is thrilled with her approval and words of wisdom.
Can you believe that Cosmopolitan actually did an interview with Kate about the comparison of Justin Bieber's hair to her old cut?
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No. Oh good Lord. She's giddy with the 15 minutes of attention this has brought her. You can practically see a huge goofy smile on her face.
"but as a mom, I wish him the very best in everything he does in life!"
What the heck does being a mom have to do with wishing someone well? Huh??
Tucker's Mom...44...I think Bieber is kicking himself in the ass for putting that hair comparison photo out there.
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I guess we know why he cried after his VMA performance.
Big Ruh Roh!
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2015/09/josh-duggar-no-show-at-rehab-meetings-whereabouts-unknown/
From the Cosmo article:
In the same vein, does the shout-out from Bieber make you a cool mom or, you know, even more of a cool mom?
One word: Yes! My girls are beyond thrilled that he Instagrammed pics of us. To top it off, Mady found his Instagram at the same time as I did this morning — on the bus on the way to school, no less. Her response was, "MOTHER, WHAT THE HECK?" in all caps, which I interpreted as approval and excitement!
And as a side note, she's equally as thrilled that I'm answering questions for Cosmopolitan about Justin! Thanks to both of you for helping me secure those cool mom points today! I need all the points I can get!
Of course, she interprets Mady's text as approval. She wants to be known as "the cool Mom".
I guess she forgot that when Mady, Cara and her appeared on the View, Mady said "If I'm going to be 100 percent honest, I don't like Justin Bieber."
Mady's "what the heck" probably was her way of saying "this is so totally stupid."
No. Oh good Lord. She's giddy with the 15 minutes of attention this has brought her. You can practically see a huge goofy smile on her face.
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It's desperate and sad. Bieber has been a trainwreck, ruined by early fame and fortune spurred on by is mommager.
I think his hair looks like shit and he looks ridden hard and put away wet.
But, gee, I really hope he takes Kate's well wishes and turns his life around...
Admin (#45), I'm surprised she didn't say "as a mom of 8!"
Yeah, she's probably wearing her Grinchy grin right now,
wondering how else she can parlay this into some attention.
Girl's gotta fill her time somehow, what with her kids away
at school all day, and no job.
She's giddy with the 15 minutes of attention this has brought her. You can practically see a huge goofy smile on her face.
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That's exactly how she came across. Maybe she thinks that this will lead to a future cover for Cosmo.
Did Kate notice the meme on the Instagram photo which said "@thebasicbitchlife"? Justin apparently was making fun of her, and she apparently didn't get that.
I noticed also that the article mentioned that Justin has removed the post from his Instagram account. He's running away from her as fast as he can.
From Cosmo:
What advice would you give Justin in terms of upkeep, having been there — are there particular products that worked well to keep everything neat and tidy?
Honestly, for me there wasn't a lot of "styling" that went into it! It was more of a way to avoid having all-day bed head when my focus was on eight kids, all of whom were 5 years old and younger! I got up and it looked the same as when I went to sleep! With this style, I think Justin may have more time to focus on his music and less on his hair!
In the same vein, does the shout-out from Bieber make you a cool mom or, you know, even more of a cool mom?
One word: Yes! My girls are beyond thrilled that he Instagrammed pics of us. To top it off, Mady found his Instagram at the same time as I did this morning — on the bus on the way to school, no less. Her response was, "MOTHER, WHAT THE HECK?" in all caps, which I interpreted as approval and excitement!
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LOL. Justin B is so has-been and nasty to boot.
From Slate:
When a federal judge ordered Davis to issue licenses or be held in contempt of court, the Liberty Counsel advised her to disobey the ruling. Good lawyers don’t usually tell their clients to defy lawful court orders, especially when jail time is a real possibility. Yet the Liberty Counsel didn’t mind putting their client at risk—perhaps because the idea of a middle-aged woman being hauled off to jail for purportedly following her conscience would send thousands of anti-gay Americans reaching for their pitchforks (and checkbooks).
So I guess the viewers that watched WDYTYA didn't want to stick around and watch a show about child abuse, or the fact that the Duggars were appearing made them change the channel.
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I was one of them
"but as a mom, I wish him the very best in everything he does in life!"
But as a mom of 8, count them 8, I wish the very best in everything he does in life. Did I mention I have 8 children, twins and sextuplets?
There, Kate, fixed it for you.
Did Kate notice the meme on the Instagram photo which said "@thebasicbitchlife"? Justin apparently was making fun of her, and she apparently didn't get that.
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She never does. That hair has been a joke. A punchline.
It was a Halloween costume for Pete's sake!
We're not talking about Twiggy's pixie or "the Rachael", which are iconic, classic styles.
Kate's tellum is right up there with Billy Ray Cyrus's achy, breaky mullet, in the vein of, "wtf were they thinking?".
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/josh-duggar-sex-scandal-rehab-no-show-rehab-meetings-church-services/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=JoshDuggarNoShowRehab
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Is he even there?
"In the same vein, does the shout-out from Bieber make you a cool mom or, you know, even more of a cool mom?
One word: Yes! My girls are beyond thrilled that he Instagrammed pics of us. To top it off, Mady found his Instagram at the same time as I did this morning — on the bus on the way to school, no less."
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What a nice little dose of karma. Kate and Justin are two fame-whore peas in a pod. They might be years apart in age but mentally and apparently physically now, they're a perfect match. So glad they've found a way to connect.
Thank you, God. I just knew you were listening :o)
Vanessa said... 57
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/josh-duggar-sex-scandal-rehab-no-show-rehab-meetings-church-services/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=JoshDuggarNoShowRehab
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Is he even there?
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I think it's reasonable to think that maybe the "rehab" is allowing him to skip things that would put him out in public where the paps could snap photos.
Maybe he's excused for now.
Well, with that little Cosmo blurb, at least we know Kate was working hard at home while the kiddies are away at school.
I don't believe Kate had that hairstyle because it was so easy breezy. I think it took a lot of upkeep with cuts and very involved coloring. I remember Kate talking about how much she loved it and wouldn't change it.
In fact, I remember her saying she had short hair because long hair gave her headaches.
OK...
"I love the fact that he's willing to laugh at himself with this post because that shows signs of maturity. You have to be comfortable enough to take what people say about you and laugh! He did, and so thumbs-up, Justin!"
Yes, Kate can totes understand exactly what someone as hugely famous as Justin is going through.
Totes.
The reason why the side-by-side haircut comparison is going viral is because of Bieber, not Kate. He's the reason why her timeline is so busy with this vapid news.
But, good for Kate for making some more hay while the sun is shining. Anything she can do at this point to stay relevant, I guess.
Wow, for those 8 kids not having any social media accounts, Mady sure found Justin ' s instagram account fast.
At the time Kate had that awful haircut, I swear she advised others not to get it, as the maintenance of it was high.
I think his hair looks like shit and he looks ridden hard and put away wet.
But, gee, I really hope he takes Kate's well wishes and turns his life around...
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lol!
"MOTHER, WHAT THE HECK?"
I guess she forgot that when Mady, Cara and her appeared on the View, Mady said "If I'm going to be 100 percent honest, I don't like Justin Bieber."
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Ha ha
I guess we know why he cried after his VMA performance.
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Some funny comments this afternoon! :)
Gotta love TFW trying to pretend her "focus" was ever on eight kids.
Her focus was getting Jon to take care of them, getting the helpers
to take care of them, and getting the crew daddies to take care of
them. Oh, and, of course, getting to take trips far, far away from
them -- that was probably her main focus.
Everyone thinks Anna is not coping, but according to Amy, second hand of course, after a couple of glasses of wines with her friends.
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I thought they didn't drink alcohol? Maybe we can invite her under the veranda?
Winsomeone said... 64
At the time Kate had that awful haircut, I swear she advised others not to get it, as the maintenance of it was high.
September 1, 2015 at 1:06 PM
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Well, it's several hours at the salon every few weeks (which was a couple hours away, iirc).
Whatever hairdo Kate has, just assume it has something to do with being the mom of 8 kids.
I think it is pretty funny that Kate tweets her loneliness in the bedroom is saved by Shoka's snoring. Let's see...it implies that there has been no man in her bed
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hope we don't see a pic of a jar of peanut butter by her wine bottles in her bedroom (ok, gross, I know.... snark snark)
FlimsyFlamsy said... 68
Gotta love TFW trying to pretend her "focus" was ever on eight kids.
Her focus was getting Jon to take care of them, getting the helpers
to take care of them, and getting the crew daddies to take care of
them. Oh, and, of course, getting to take trips far, far away from
them -- that was probably her main focus.
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At the time when Kate had that hair, she was on the road A LOT, promoting the book Beth wrote, making appearances and just traveling all over with Steve.
It had nothing to do with being easy because she was so busy with the kids.
Kate was busy getting wardrobe and Anne Taylor, tanning, manipedi, working out, etc. etc.
Her look transformed completely and she spent a great deal of time on her appearance.
But, whatever, Kate.
Vanessa said... 69
Everyone thinks Anna is not coping, but according to Amy, second hand of course, after a couple of glasses of wines with her friends.
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I thought they didn't drink alcohol? Maybe we can invite her under the veranda?
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Isn't Amy the sort of "normal" one? A bit of a wild child?
"but as a mom, I wish him the very best in everything he does in life!"
Admin: "What the heck does being a mom have to do with wishing someone well? Huh??"
It's Kate intellectual "little black dress": In her mind, it goes well with everything and is appropriate everywhere.
I've tried it myself and I must admit she may be on to something. "As a mom, I just did absolutely nothing important this afternoon." See?
I am one of Eight said... 63
Wow, for those 8 kids not having any social media accounts, Mady sure found Justin ' s instagram account fast.
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Cara and Mady both have Instagram accounts. I remember seeing them linked by one of the non-fans on Twitter quite a while back and they do look legit. But who knows.
After reading the Cosmo article, I don't think she was actually interviewed. It looks more like someone sent her questions and she emailed them back - the exclamation points after most every sentence give it away!
"As a mom, I just did absolutely nothing important this afternoon." See?
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Ahhh. It all makes sense now. As a mom, thanks for explaining.
White Organza said... 74
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It DOES work!
As a mom, I spend tons of time with my married manager.
As a mom, I sell my children's privacy.
Yup, it really is a lbd.
After reading the Cosmo article, I don't think she was actually interviewed. It looks more like someone sent her questions and she emailed them back - the exclamation points after most every sentence give it away!
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Agree. The answers are too cogent.
I am not a Cosmo girl (neither the magazine nor the cocktail),
but isn't that a bit mature for M&C to be reading, or even
being on their radar? Isn't it the mag with the sex quizzes,
and all kinds of "how to drive your man crazy" articles? Or
am I once again getting erroneous info from old sitcoms?
Can you believe that Cosmopolitan actually did an interview with Kate about the comparison of Justin Bieber's hair to her old hair cut? 43
Who'd a thunk that Cosmo was that desperate?
Jane, I thought that all the girls probably have instagram . I was surprised TFW mentioned it because she always insists her kids are not on social media.
I imagine those kids having lots of fun making fun of their mom on snapchat right in front of her and she's most likely clueless.
About the Bieber hair:
It doesn't even look all that much like Kate's. If you google pictures of Riker Lynch, you'll see that Bieber's hair is much more like Riker's than it is like Kate's. All are asymmetrical, but the others are much wispier than Kate's.
Riker spent a whole season on Dancing with the Stars, but no one compared his hairdo to Kate's, as far as I know.
After reading the Cosmo article, I don't think she was actually interviewed. It looks more like someone sent her questions and she emailed them back - the exclamation points after most every sentence give it away!
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Agree. The answers are too cogent.
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I had the exact same thought, it screamed email interview. Something quick to throw up there and be done with it.
Her answers were way more thought out and somewhat humorous, or trying to be, than she is when she is speaking off the cuff.
I thought he was making fun of her too. So funny she is flattered.
Who'd a thunk that Cosmo was that desperate?
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Again, it's the Beibs that's the draw. If Andy Dick sported the Kate Gosselin 'do, no one would notice.
Kate sounded like she was peeing herself giving an interview to Cosmo.
The Biebs removed the comparison from his social media and probably regrets starting that meme.
Well, other than to rest assured Kate Gosselin thought he was a nice little boy when she met him.
I had the exact same thought, it screamed email interview. Something quick to throw up there and be done with it.
Her answers were way more thought out and somewhat humorous, or trying to be, than she is when she is speaking off the cuff.
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It reads like Kate got the questions and her manager cleaned up the answers for her.
Made them un-Kateish.
Math Girl said... 82
About the Bieber hair:
It doesn't even look all that much like Kate's. If you google pictures of Riker Lynch, you'll see that Bieber's hair is much more like Riker's than it is like Kate's. All are asymmetrical, but the others are much wispier than Kate's.
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Exactly. It's just an asymmetrical short cut, and many people have sported it. It didn't start with Kate, nor did it end with her.
I think what Kate did was perfect the hair curtain.
Her answers were way more thought out and somewhat humorous, or trying to be, than she is when she is speaking off the cuff.
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No ums?
TLC stinks said... 84
I thought he was making fun of her too. So funny she is flattered.
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I thought Talor Swift was too on her SNL "The View" skit.
Tucker's Mom said...
It's desperate and sad. Bieber has been a trainwreck, ruined by early fame and fortune spurred on by is mommager.
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His mother has had very little to do with his career. He's had professionals like Usher since the day he was discovered.
OT dancing with the stars update, final cast reveal tomorrow!
Confirmed: Hayes Grier 15 to Vine online star.
Bindi Irwin, 17, actress and conservationist.
Andy Grammer, 32, singer
Nick Carter, 35, singer and actor, was member of Backstreet Boys at age 12
Victor Espinoza, 43, jockey, most recently rode American Pharoah to triple crown win
Chaka Khan, 62, iconic singer songwriter
Alexa PenaVega, 27, actress, singer, started in Spy Kids movies as young teen, married to Carlos.
Carlos PenaVega, 26, actor, singer, started in Big Time Rush Nickelodeon series, married to Alexa.
Final announcements are tomorrow. Will Paula Deen really be in the cast? how about Kim Zolciak from Real Housewives of Atlanta? Maybe bachelor Nick Viall? The complete cat will be announced on Good Morning America 9/2/15.
To someone like Justin Beiber, Cosmopolitan would be a magazine for grannies.
The Cosmo article said that TFW and Mady found the picture comparison at the same time on the WAY TO school! Was TFW driving at the same time she found it? Was Mady in the front seat? Were they comparing each others find while TFW's talons were on the wheel?
I think it is pretty funny that Kate tweets her loneliness in the bedroom is saved by Shoka's snoring. Let's see...it implies that there has been no man in her bed
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...and no Milo.
Re: The Bieb's hair
My personal favorite lol:
https://twitter.com/WRadioColombia/status/638304434045517824/photo/1
JoyinVirginia said... 91
OT dancing with the stars update, final cast reveal tomorrow!
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According to the DWTS FB page, the final cast will be announced tonight on Jimmy Kimmel.
This was posted on their FB page yesterday:
"Watch Jimmy Kimmel Live tomorrow to find out who else is joining the cast of #dwts!"
I assume that they will also announce the full cast tomorrow morning on GMA.
In fact, I remember her saying she had short hair because long hair gave her headaches.
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This might actually be true. If my hair looked that shitty, I'd have headaches from crying every time I looked in a mirror.
Anyone remember Twiggy? Back in junior high my friends and I all had to run out and get her cut. It was all the rage. I just realized how dangerously close we came to Kate's old rooster-shitting-on-the-back-of-the-head style.
http://www.formidablemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/twiggy+formidablemag-231-400x544.jpg
Tucker's Mom said... 56
We're not talking about Twiggy's pixie or "the Rachael", which are iconic, classic styles.
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Oops Tucker's! I didn't see your comment upthread.
We went crazy over Twiggy's hair. I loved the London Look. Granny gowns and miniskirts. Good times.
And I doubt Michael Seewald is the spokesperson for the Duggar family. In fact, I think the Duggars probably feel betrayed by him. It is none of his business.
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He may not be the spokesperson, but he has every right to express his feelings. I think it is his business. He is the father-in-law of a Duggar girl, not a friend of a cousin of a brother of a pastor somewhere int the backwoods of Arkansas.
Tucker's Mom said... 87
Exactly. It's just an asymmetrical short cut, and many people have sported it. It didn't start with Kate, nor did it end with her.
I think what Kate did was perfect the hair curtain.
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For me, the most distinctive part of Kate's haircut was the very short cockscomb sticking up in the back (the porcupine look). I think she only had that part of the time.
I think it is pretty funny that Kate tweets her loneliness in the bedroom is saved by Shoka's snoring. Let's see...it implies that there has been no man in her bed
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Maybe there "was" a Milo. I can't get out of my head that something happened one night she was alone in the house. That dog wasn't even allowed in the house before and suddenly not only is he but he sleeps in the queen's bedroom? Considering her off-quilter fans, the house relative isolation and the fact that the floor plan was featured in the remodelling episode, I would be surprised at all.
I think we all agree that both haircuts suck.
He has no more business being blonde than she does. Money really does not buy you style. The way he used to have his pants hang down to his knees is another example. He unfortunately will crash and burn with the rest of them
Oh shoots... "Off-kilter". Not "off-quilter". Sheesh...
redbird said... 93
The Cosmo article said that TFW and Mady found the picture comparison at the same time on the WAY TO school! Was TFW driving at the same time she found it? Was Mady in the front seat? Were they comparing each others find while TFW's talons were on the wheel?
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I think Mady was on the bus and Kate had already returned home. Mady texted Kate. Kate, being her inimitable self, couldn't let Mady take credit but says they found it "simultaneously". Yeah, whatever.
Have there been any reports on the mass exodus on Sunday of 400 ministers in the wake of the AM scandal? I haven't yet seen anything about it. Still too early?
Joy,
Thanks for the Dancing with the Stars cast summary. The one on the official DWTS website doesn't include ages.
I really question the inclusion of the Hayes Grier, the youngest male and second-youngest overall contestant. They took a lot of flack last year over the inclusion of 14-year-old actress Willow Shields. She was almost in tears when she was eliminated before several contestants with lower judges scores. It looks like Hayes is one of those famous-for-being-famous people - an internet version of a reality TV "star".
We went crazy over Twiggy's hair. I loved the London Look. Granny gowns and miniskirts. Good times.
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White go-go-boots and Nehru jackets! Very good times!
More on where Joshie is or isn't...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3218507/Josh-Duggar-missing-mandatory-church-services-Christian-rehab-facility-mystery-shamed-reality-star-s-whereabouts-deepens.html
For me, the most distinctive part of Kate's haircut was the very short cockscomb sticking up in the back (the porcupine look). I think she only had that part of the time.
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Oh hellz, that's when there was a party in front, business in back and an angry hedgehog on top.
You're right-that's the part that looked ridiculous.
I think it was also dark brown in back then, too.
Midnight Madness said... 100
And I doubt Michael Seewald is the spokesperson for the Duggar family. In fact, I think the Duggars probably feel betrayed by him. It is none of his business.
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He may not be the spokesperson, but he has every right to express his feelings. I think it is his business. He is the father-in-law of a Duggar girl, not a friend of a cousin of a brother of a pastor somewhere int the backwoods of Arkansas.
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Yet, Seewald admits (by way of explaining how he was so, so, so wrong about Josh in his sabre-rattling defense of him) that he doesn't really know Josh at all.
Oh, wait, I know who the Biebs looks like...Stefon!
Yet, Seewald admits (by way of explaining how he was so, so, so wrong about Josh in his sabre-rattling defense of him) that he doesn't really know Josh at all.
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Yes, that was kind of strange, but does it really matter if he knows him? We don't know him either and yet we and a multitude of media and press are doing the same. Everyone certainly has the right to call him out on what he has done. They've read reports on what he did, saw his "confession" and as such, when he put that out there, didn't he make it our business?
Everyone certainly has the right to call him out on what he has done. They've read reports on what he did, saw his "confession" and as such, when he put that out there, didn't he make it our business?
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Oh yes, I agree. But Seewald wrote a scathing defense of Josh, saying that he knew Josh had repented and was a man of integrity.
His daughter might be Jessa Duggar, but I don't think he knows shit from shinola when it comes to Josh Duggar.
Yes, that was kind of strange, but does it really matter if he knows him? We don't know him either and yet we and a multitude of media and press are doing the same. Everyone certainly has the right to call him out on what he has done.
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It sort of matters in the sense that Josh's family and friends assured the public that molestation was in the past, that Josh was reformed and there was nothing to worry about.
It's not that we, the general public, was saying Josh WASN'T reformed. Rather we were saying, wait a sec---how do you KNOW he's reformed?
Turns out, the public was right all along to question how they know this. And then come to find out Papa Seewald now admits hey I really don't know him that well actually. Well then how the heck do you get off trying to lecture others to stop questioning him? The reality is he did not really know whether Josh was changed any more than we did.
Midnight Madness said... 108
White go-go-boots and Nehru jackets! Very good times!
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ha. I still like the look of those Nehru jackets. If I see anything with a mandarin collar I make a grab for it.
I don't know why the Little People are doing a TWO HOUR interview. But the interviewer is asking extremely rude personal questions.
Oh yes, I agree. But Seewald wrote a scathing defense of Josh, saying that he knew Josh had repented and was a man of integrity.
His daughter might be Jessa Duggar, but I don't think he knows shit from shinola when it comes to Josh Duggar.
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I agree. I was responding to the original comment that he has no business saying anything about this latest scandal. I disagree, but I can't remember who posted that. Even though he came out and may have defended him on the molestation thing, he has every right to comment and call him out on his latest hypocrisy in the AM sandal...even if he doesn't know him that well.
I'm dumbstruck that TLC is featuring ads from an interest group called Push for Liberty. I just saw one now. This group is actively pushing to try to reverse the Supreme Court opinion about gay marriage.
This on a network that has based their entire theme around accepting those who are different? Whose top show is about a transgendered teen? They have to be joking.
God, this Little People interviewer is BEYOND RUDE.
She's asked the question about Tori and Zach being together now about 5 different ways and posed it to multiple people. Yes, he's little. Yes, she's not. She met him at work like tons of other couples, and fell in love with him and isn't shallow. Why is this so hard to understand? Would you ask a pretty woman why she's with an ugly man or a hearing man why he's with a deaf woman? Sheesh.
Geez, I have a harder time understanding why she likes him because he's sort of a mama's boy and socially awkward, not because of his height. She might as well ask her that.
That person interviewing the Roloff's is extremely rude and nosy. I don't think she should ask the kids about their parents impending divorce. She is getting very personal with questions to every one. Jacob is no where to be seen. Even during the wedding episode he was shown quickly a few times.
Imagine if Ms. Kelly from FOX got that rude and personal with the Duggars.
That person interviewing the Roloff's is extremely rude and nosy. I don't think she should ask the kids about their parents impending divorce.
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Absolutely not. The kids seem uncomfortable. Nobody wants to talk about that even adult kids. Not with a bunch of strangers.
I also think she has no business asking two young recently married couples when they're going to have kids. When Zach said three years Tori said wait a second I thought we said 1-2 years. Jeremy managed to avoid the question in a much more round about way, we'll have kids when we have them you rude lady, he's better at handling things like that.
Their parents are sitting right there. Not every young couple wants grandparents to KNOW when they're trying. Next thing you know Mom is calling you every week urging you to take a pregnancy test and getting impatient when it's not happening. She put them on the spot in a completely rude and thoughtless manner, right in front of their parents. I would have told her to shove it. No wonder Jacob hates this crap.
She also asked if Tori and Zach wanted a little person baby. That is a question fraught with drama and extremely personal. It's none of her damn business. It's not like having a normal baby just shorter. Dwarfs are fraught with medical problems. Tori's tone was like, um I want a HEALTHY baby what do you THINK I want? Good grief.
This is one of the worst TLC sit-downs I've ever seen. I'm appalled.
Also she obviously hasn't done her homework about Jacob or she could have asked more specific questions about that. She acted as baffled as a casual viewer about where he went. Um, read his social media. He hates the show. Or is she being deliberately obtuse? What a dolt.
http://38.media.tumblr.com/edc428840aab503b2407a9629793058c/tumblr_mqm0qbH01O1r3vs52o1_500.gif
Hey, the Roloffs get no sympathy from me. They put their lives out there. I say have at it. They got paid a boatload of money for this interview (I'm guessing) no point in being coy now. The whole point of the show was to "educate" people on how little people live.
The Duggar kids have not put their fertility out there, or their parents divorce.
I really don't care how famous you are, it's rude to ask someone when they're having kids, or what they think of their parents' divorce.
These questions are unacceptable to ANYONE.
I wonder if Boobers is still trying to impregnate Babykins, or if he's put that on the back burner now that TLC cut them loose and there's really no reason to have another baby.
Hmmmm...
http://www.etonline.com/news/171148_jessa_seewald_publicly_sides_with_father_in_law_who_called_josh_duggar_a_pretender/
://www.etonline.com/news/171148_jessa_seewald_publicly_sides_with_father_in_law_who_called_josh_duggar_a_pretender
Sheepless 126 - interesting that jessa focuses on the AM account but NO mention of what he did to his sisters. My belief in a conspiracy theory is reinforced.
The Roloff "kids" are 25. They could have refused to answer. I had compassion for them when they were kids.
The youngest kid didn't sell out.
AuntieAnn said...
https://twitter.com/WRadioColombia/status/638304434045517824/photo/1
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Thanks for that. I love me some Justin Bie-baaa!
Rhymes with Witch said... 128
://www.etonline.com/news/171148_jessa_seewald_publicly_sides_with_father_in_law_who_called_josh_duggar_a_pretender
Sheepless 126 - interesting that jessa focuses on the AM account but NO mention of what he did to his sisters. My belief in a conspiracy theory is reinforced.
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I'm getting the sediments here on the conspiracy theory. I wasn't yesterday but I think it's clear who the mouthpiece is now.
I think there's a couple things going on here. First, the Duggars truly believed Josh was repentant, and now it's clear he wasn't. So, he lied to them.
Second, Josh's AM scandal so close on the heels of the molestation scandal dashed all hopes of saving their show.
In both cases, the family is ticked off and not in the mood to forgive and forget.
This has cost JB millions.
The discussion about did-Josh-reform-or-didn't-he reminds me of
TFW. The abuse she detailed in her journal, when some people
were finally convinced it was her own words, was explained away
as the actions of a frazzled mom, and that she had changed.
But does anyone really know that? Even if the physical beatings stopped, we have seen and read things which, in my opinion,
constitute emotional abuse.
I didn't watch the Roloff interview, but didn't these people put their lives on tv for public fodder/entertainmrnt?
As Kate said, "we made it their business".
The Roloff kids arent kids any more- they are adults. If they want the fame and riches, they have to take the spoils, too.
When these "kids" finally get pregnant, the cameras will be rolling-- I'm sure they won't have a problem with it then.
Tucker's Mom (#131), it feels like a hail Mary from the Duggars --
"Hey, America, we're just as mad at Josh as you are -- even
more! Now let's forget all about that loser, and put the focus
where it belongs: on our pretty daughters Jill and Jessa, and all
the adorable babies they're gonna have! Don't y'all want to
watch that week after week? Sure you do!"
Second, Josh's AM scandal so close on the heels of the molestation scandal dashed all hopes of saving their show.
In both cases, the family is ticked off and not in the mood to forgive and forget.
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yup, I'm with you on that one.
They're allll paying for joshie's sins now and that's not fair!! (stomping feet)
That's what's really hit them, right in the bullseye. The spin they used for the molestation looked like it was working, maaaybeee... but now?
yeah, kick him to the curb
The house has an alarm system. I know this because I remember seeing the monitor box by the four plus years ago the alarm was accidentally set off and there was mention of it in the local police report.
She is making it up about Shoka in the bedroom. Purely for the animal lovers out there. I am convinced it's an upcoming storyline.
Jeremy managed to avoid the question in a much more round about way, we'll have kids when we have them you rude lady, he's better at handling things like that.
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hmm, I saw it differently
He looked like he loved being asked that question. Glad the camera and mike were back on him. He seemed coy (much like tfw when asked questions) and so did his wife. They knew damn well what questions were going to be asked. Matt would never have allowed the interview to take place if they didn't know the "script"
Also she obviously hasn't done her homework about Jacob or she could have asked more specific questions about that. She acted as baffled as a casual viewer about where he went. Um, read his social media. He hates the show. Or is she being deliberately obtuse? What a dolt.
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Again, scripted. They did not allow her to ask any questions about Jacob. The canned answer (and only mention of him pretty much) is "he's finding himself"
Proof the Roloff's have a say in whatever gets out there. They don't want to address those issues for the cameras. Divorce, pregnancies, children with dwarfism etc. are all acceptable to them, or they wouldn't have been asked last night.
Yes, no wonder Jacob hates this crap. And they can't make him tow the line as per his family's wishes. He's not even giving them enough material to try and "edit him in"
A lot like tfw tried to make the twins bash their father on live tv. Bet if it was a pre taped interview, those twins would have given their mother something she would have approved. See how much better they did on the View?
Imagine if Ms. Kelly from FOX got that rude and personal with the Duggars.
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The Duggars wouldn't have done the interview. They knew how it was going to go.
This on a network that has based their entire theme around accepting those who are different? Whose top show is about a transgendered teen? They have to be jokin
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All the more reason for these groups to try and get their message out to the masses that they are trying to convert. TLC doesn't care who pays for advertising. Hell, they don't give a crap about their money making "stars"
Well, Kate's thrilling Cosmo "interview" on Justin's hairdo pretty much rolled over and died. There is ONE comment (and it's one of those "I made $9,500 last month on the internet") and 1K "shares." She is as washed-up as they come. I hope TLC is taking note, since they probably arranged it. When not even Justin Bieber can pull you out of the weeds, game over.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 134
Tucker's Mom (#131), it feels like a hail Mary from the Duggars --
"Hey, America, we're just as mad at Josh as you are -- even
more! Now let's forget all about that loser, and put the focus
where it belongs: on our pretty daughters Jill and Jessa, and all
the adorable babies they're gonna have! Don't y'all want to
watch that week after week? Sure you do!"
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It's interesting that we've heard from both Duggar daughters on social media.
I now think they were in the running for a show of their own before Joshie effed things up again.
Sad but true said... 141
Well, Kate's thrilling Cosmo "interview" on Justin's hairdo pretty much rolled over and died. There is ONE comment (and it's one of those "I made $9,500 last month on the internet") and 1K "shares."
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That's hilarious. Want to see something even funnier? The sheeple will stampede over there now and fill the article with comments to prove that she's relevant. LOL
A lot like tfw tried to make the twins bash their father on live tv. Bet if it was a pre taped interview, those twins would have given their mother something she would have approved. See how much better they did on the View?
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The twins were given an extra 5 minutes in the "fluff" cycle before that interview.
They quick changed focus and threw total 6-year old softball questions to the twins to make them comfortable.
I'm sure the topic of Jon was off the table after the Today show disaster.
Had the Today show gone as planned, I think The View would have focused on Jon, his dating, the revolving door of women etc.
As is stood, the only talking point they got in on The View was how much harder the divorce was on poor Kate than on them, you know, the little collaterally-damaged children.
Sad but true said... 141
Well, Kate's thrilling Cosmo "interview" on Justin's hairdo pretty much rolled over and died. There is ONE comment (and it's one of those "I made $9,500 last month on the internet") and 1K "shares." She is as washed-up as they come. I hope TLC is taking note, since they probably arranged it. When not even Justin Bieber can pull you out of the weeds, game over.
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It was a little blurb on the Cosmo website.
The topic trended for 5 minutes and a young intern monitoring social media probably threw out the idea to get some commentary on the meme.
Kate was all too happy to oblige.
Who the f*ck with a life wants to talk about their old hairdo?
But there's Kate, just honored to do it.
You're right. It got no traction. I'm sure her timeline will die back down as soon as people move one, which already happened.
Next!
That's funny, Sad but true. Who would of dreamed that her TL would be this stagnant when it was white hot just not to long ago. Just one comment about making 9K doing whatever.
The only good thing about that comment is that it is work without putting your children in front of a camera and exploiting them!
The twins were given an extra 5 minutes in the "fluff" cycle before that interview.
They quick changed focus and threw total 6-year old softball questions to the twins to make them comfortable.
I'm sure the topic of Jon was off the table after the Today show disaster.
Had the Today show gone as planned, I think The View would have focused on Jon, his dating, the revolving door of women etc.
As is stood, the only talking point they got in on The View was how much harder the divorce was on poor Kate than on them, you know, the little collaterally-damaged children.
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It was scripted I believe. They just couldn't follow through. When tfw snaps her fingers and more or less is mouthing the reply for them?
They couldn't do it and tfw didnt' have time to threaten, cajole, and have a retake. They were "willing" (as much as a kid really understands this) up until it was to happen.
From GMA this morning:
"Paula Deen, Tamar Braxton, Kim Zolciak-Biermann and Alek Skarlatos, the U.S. serviceman who helped stop a gunman on a Paris-bound train, are putting on their dancing shoes and joining the cast of “Dancing With the Stars,” the show’s co-host, Tom Bergeron, revealed today on “Good Morning America.”
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Did Skarlatos get an agent already?!
I am hoping that the public doesn't forget Josh's TRUE crime--molesting underage children. The AM scandal seems to be at the forefront-people have a short memory but I hope they remember what he did.
I may go to hell for this, but when thinking about Josh, this hymn comes to mind,
So with that in mind, here's a song for ya to hum all day...
Shackled with a heavy burden,
'neath a load of guilt and shame.
Then, the hand of Joshee touched me,
And now, I am no longer the same.
Oh, Josh touched me, oh Josh touched me,
And Jim Bob and Boobkins, said, please don't tell a soul.
Something happened, and now I know,
Josh touched me, and made me stained.
Since I became Joshee's conquest,
Since he groped and made me tainted
I will never cease to avoid him,
I'll shout NIKE until eternity rolls.
Oh, Josh touched me,
Oh, Josh touched me,
And oh, the dread that fills my soul.
Something happened, and now I know
Josh touched me, and made me stained.
(sorry, the devil made me do it!)
I'm getting the sediments here on the conspiracy theory. I wasn't yesterday but I think it's clear who the mouthpiece is now.
I think there's a couple things going on here. First, the Duggars truly believed Josh was repentant, and now it's clear he wasn't. So, he lied to them.
Second, Josh's AM scandal so close on the heels of the molestation scandal dashed all hopes of saving their show.
In both cases, the family is ticked off and not in the mood to forgive and forget.
This has cost JB millions.
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The tone in their voices has changed. They thought they were going to weather the first storm. Now they know they're f--ed. And, because they actually are not sincere at all about being loving and supportive of their own flesh and blood brother (he's not "extended family", girls), they've left him in the dust this time around.
They're, in a very unChristian way, pissed as h-ll at him. It's obvious. The one that is lost came between them and easy street. Them and greed. Them and fame.
You know it strikes me that for all his sins they claim to abhor so much, they're guilty of some pretty big sins themselves.
Thought I'd pop back in because I miss the conversation (not politics, though). The Duggars are despicable. No true Christian would turn on someone in their darkest hour. Josh needs help, not judgment - especially from his family. I also wonder would Josh get so pissed off at his family that he would "spill the beans" on what has gone on in that house? 'Cause I do believe there are lots of skeleton in that Duggar closet.
Admin (#148), I think those girls are livid that their glamorous,
prosperous futures were demolished by their brother's actions.
Think back to before the molestation scandal -- that family was
white hot on TLC. It seems like a no-brainer that the sisters
were going to get their own spin-off. Two young couples, two
new babies -- a built-in audience of fans ready to salivate over
every move? Oh yeah, that was in the bag.
It would make sense that Jessa is the angriest. She probably
won't be getting her People magazine cover when her baby is
born, with the big ol' paycheck for the first pictures. She won't
have some deluxe baby registry, with her every need met by
generous fans and sponsors. But, if these girls are sincere
about their mission to spread the word, they'll be able to suck
it up and move on. Actions speak louder than tweets and
blog posts and selfies. We'll find out soon enough if they
can actually walk the talk.
Paula I totally agree with you regarding skeletons in the Duggar closet. They are not the wonderful charity filled religious family they want people to believe. I have a feeling bigger things will come out and maybe that is why they are finally being quiet.
It was scripted I believe. They just couldn't follow through. When tfw snaps her fingers and more or less is mouthing the reply for them?
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"Well...I wouldn't say they're wrong"...
Boy, Kate just lit up when Mady finally got on script.
caroline said... 148
I am hoping that the public doesn't forget Josh's TRUE crime--molesting underage children. The AM scandal seems to be at the forefront-people have a short memory but I hope they remember what he did.
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I don't believe that people forgot at all. I think people are embracing this AM scandal because it seems to have ensured that the Duggar fame train is done.
Prior to the AM revelations, I think it could have continued.
The Duggar's hypocrisy underlies the disgust, too.
You know it strikes me that for all his sins they claim to abhor so much, they're guilty of some pretty big sins themselves.
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It's like reading the comments on Christian sites. On topics such as the Duggars, Josh molesting 5 girls (that we know of) and Kate selling her children, there is always a back of forth of negative comments, and Christians chiming in about "throwing stones".
Always.
No exception.
It seems to me that waggling a finger at those who voice their dissent is indeed, waggling a finger!
It's judging.
What's the difference?
Chiding anyone for saying something negative is in and of itself, judging.
So simple, yet it escapes so many of the High and Mighty Pious.
ITA about bigger things coming out. I just think it is crazy that when Josh molested his sisters, Jim Bob waited till the SOL ran out then went and talked to the State Trooper. He was arrested and sentenced to decades in jail for pornography. Then the "Christian Counselor" who he remodeled basements for was arrested for sex crimes.
Bill Gothard, their leader in their church was forced to resign for sexually harassing over 30 young women for a while and is now back at the helm. Then when AM hit the fan, Josh is now supposedly at a "rehab" that he will do hard labor, read the Bible and pray for hours a day. But that place has the director? protecting a man who had done something to a young girl from the law, sent him out of the country?
Every time you turn around there it is a sex scandal. I have never seen anything like this before. It is horrible, just horrible!!!
Ma and Pa have to be more upset about Joshie's cheating and being unfaithful to Anna because the molestation against his siblings puts a very bad light on their way of Gothard life and teachings. Even Gothard was forced to resign when he was accused of over 30 charges of sexual harassment. The state trooper that Jim Bob talked to in jail for decades. The man who "Christian counseled Josh by overseeing him remodel houses" was arrested for something sexual. And now the place he is suppose to be is hiding a man who sexually did something to a young girl? Is this what Jim Bob meant on the interview with Kelly that he knew of MANY families that have it much more worse than what happened here. What is sickening is Meghan didn't even ask him a follow up question on that. She let it slide by. And Gothard managed to get back at the helm. Why would you stay in a cult that it is ok for the leader to sexually harass over 30 young girls?
It's horrible, just horrible! And I feel bad for Jana, Jinger and especially Joy who was the one who drew the short straw to have to go and live with Anna and the babies while Joshie gets fixed.
Why put that on a young girl? She should be doing what she wants to do! Dating, what dress to wear to prom, graduating high school, checking out college campuses. Jim Bob and Michelle would die and go to hades before that would happen. No, I take that back! They would cut that one instant black sheep out of their lives so instead of being in hades they could be here on earth to control the other dozen and a half or so lives.
Agree, that is why they have quieted down. Big Thing or Things coming out!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 151
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Agree with everything.
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Paula said... 150
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Good to see you!
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Hmm.... will Jessa pull a Kate and reject her entire family for the chance of fame and money?
Of all of the kids, she's got the most chance of being the break-out star.
"The Kentucky county clerk facing potentially stiff penalties for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses has been married four times, raising questions of hypocrisy and selective application of the Bible to her life. The marriages are documented in court records obtained by U.S. News, which show that Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis divorced three times, first in 1994, then 2006 and again in 2008. She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second. Davis worked at the clerk's office at the time of each divorce and has since remarried."
http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/09/01/22793219/i-suppose-i-should-say-something-about-kim-davis
foxy said... 152
Paula I totally agree with you regarding skeletons in the Duggar closet. They are not the wonderful charity filled religious family they want people to believe. I have a feeling bigger things will come out and maybe that is why they are finally being quiet.
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Yeah...something is hinky.
I don't think Josh's behavior came out of a vacuum.
Don't most sexual offenders have a history of being abused themselves?
Actions speak louder than tweets and
blog posts and selfies. We'll find out soon enough if they
can actually walk the talk.
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I'm afraid that it's too late for that. TLC once again created the fame and fortune monster, and they are addicted to it. They've had the taste of this life, will take every opportunity they can to be in the public eye, social media and whatever. After they've experienced this, how you gonna keep 'em down on the farm?
P.J. said... 123
Hey, the Roloffs get no sympathy from me. They put their lives out there. I say have at it. They got paid a boatload of money for this interview (I'm guessing) no point in being coy now. The whole point of the show was to "educate" people on how little people live.
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I broke my no-TLC rule and watched an hour of the Roloff interview (and for that I am ashamed). It would seem Andrea Canning went to the Baba Walters Institution of Meddling Journalism. Some of her questions were quite intrusive, but I agree, the Roloffs signed up for the interrogation and were warned it was going to be no-holds-barred.
I was pretty put off by Amy. I flipped away from the show after she pointed her blaming finger at Matt for the fuckety billionth time. What a whiner. She said she never wanted to do the show in the first place but I notice she sure stuck around to reap the rewards. In spite of all the digs she threw at him, Matt restrained himself and didn't lash back at her. IMO he's always been much more affable than Amy. She's a brat.
Hahaha!
Juicy juice is the ad at the top of the page.
Good old days, right Kate?
This has cost JB millions.
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Yep. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
Good for Jacob Roloff! Wonders where his money is....
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/09/02/little-people-big-world-jacob-roloff-claims-not-getting-fair-pay-from-show
Either a very slow news day or someone at TLC picked up the phone to eonline. So the story is there now and being RT'd by the bots. But not much attention otherwise.
In other news, did you know it's Mommy Applesauce Day? Only reply I saw to that came from MsGoody. Kate posted a photo of that page in her cookbook, which is clearly another stock photo.
*Hoosier Girl* - (Hi all. Apparently I'm not smart enough to figure out the name/url thingy - but it's really me!)
That Duggar father has always given me the creeps. The PDA with his wife, the way he touched his daughters. He seemed to always bring conversations around to sex. Ugh. He makes my skin crawl!
The way the molestation was kept under wraps for so long and by so many, it makes one wonder how much more has gone down in that family.
TLC stinks said... 158
She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second.
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That statement made my head hurt.
Auntie Ann.....I was especially put off by Amy when Matt said the next project is a giant cement pumpkin and she kept interrupting and saying it was her idea. He seems like he wants to help her with projects, but she just knocks him down. He showed her how to get the pumpkin salsa out to stores and she is just not grateful. He even went with her to speak to people about it. I would much rather be around Matt than Amy.
He always hated the mess in the house and how the kids trashed everything within weeks of being made nice. When those bedroom doors were opened you could not see the kids for the piles of crap and no sheets on the beds. Gross. Matt wanted to hire some help for cleaning the house and she said she doesn't want anyone touching her stuff. I know there are three sides to every story, but back a few years Amy tried getting the kids to not like Matt. It seemed to work with Zach.
Sad but true said... 165
In other news, did you know it's Mommy Applesauce Day? Only reply I saw to that came from MsGoody. Kate posted a photo of that page in her cookbook, which is clearly another stock photo.
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A curmudgeon monkey could make that stuff blindfolded. It's a regular old boring applesauce recipe but the narc had to leave her scent on it. "Mommy" applesauce. Apples, water, sugar and cinnamon. Isn't she just a frickin' culinary genius.
The Duggar kids have not put their fertility out there, or their parents divorce.
I really don't care how famous you are, it's rude to ask someone when they're having kids, or what they think of their parents' divorce.
These questions are unacceptable to ANYONE
Admin, you always keep me guessing. You would have loved a hard ball interview like that with Jon and Kate, or if Megyn had hit harder with the Duggars. I watch LPBW, followed the blogs. They are no better than any other reality TV family. Audrey has already quit her job. She and Jer have blogs telling people how to live a Christian life, and Jacob has already told us what fakery the show has been.
That aside, I actually thought she did a pretty good job with the interview. I think the questions were asked with compassion and people would generally want to know what Tori thinks about the possibility of having a dwarf baby. Zach did not seemed bothered, nor did Jer. In fact, Jer and Auj will probably consider it a race because it will ensure several episodes and lots of money.
I really don't get your reaction at all, but whatever.
Cee
OT dancing with the stars:
Gary Busey! He rode onto the Jimmy Kimmel set on a horse last night! Like a rhinestone cowboy! I sincerely hope he will bring the crazy to dwts! He is 71.
Alek Skarlato is 22,.national guard unit out of Oregon, he and his buddies bumped the Duhgars of the People cover this week!
Tamar Braxton, 38, sister of Toni Braxton and reality star
Kim Zolciak-Bierman, 37, a Real Housewife.
Paula Deen, 68, celeb chef who damaged her empire not because she said the n word nut because she turned a blind eye to her brothers drug addiction and abuse and sexual harassment of staff, then had attorneys who played hardball with a woman who would not back down.
He seems like he wants to help her with projects, but she just knocks him down. He showed her how to get the pumpkin salsa out to stores and she is just not grateful. He even went with her to speak to people about it. I would much rather be around Matt than Amy.
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ITA, foxy. I would too.
Matt's savvy about marketing. I think she takes advantage of that aspect of him but doesn't want him to share any of the credit. And did I detect a jealous tone in her voice when Canning asked if they were going out with other people and Amy said "he's on the market"? She seems quite bitter.
He always hated the mess in the house and how the kids trashed everything within weeks of being made nice. When those bedroom doors were opened you could not see the kids for the piles of crap and no sheets on the beds. Gross. Matt wanted to hire some help for cleaning the house and she said she doesn't want anyone touching her stuff.
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Oh and did you hear him say she had a beautiful kitchen - which was built to accommodate her height - and she had to make a snarky remark about how he never used it. She didn't have to knock him down like that and she doesn't seem very grateful for that house.
I wonder if she's cleaned it up since she has it all to herself now.
Paula Deen, 68, celeb chef who damaged her empire not because she said the n word nut because she turned a blind eye to her brothers drug addiction and abuse and sexual harassment of staff,
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Well, there ya go. If TLC won't have them, the Duggars can all appear on DWTS. That should keep them and DWTS on the air for years to come. Yippee.
I think we are now living in the theatre of the absurd.
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-supports-kanye-west-2020-presidential-bid-article-1.2345737
I hope Matt gets far away from Amy and make her sink or swim on her own. He can be cordial when they need to be around each other, but he shouldn't help her in any way. She wanted the divorce, let her do it all on her own.
The Duggar kids have not put their fertility out there
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umm...isn't fertility what this family is ABOUT?
they live and breath getting knocked up. It's their 'dream', to borrow a kate-ism.
Don't most sexual offenders have a history of being abused themselves? 159
Statistically it's about 50%.
Rhymes with Witch @ 175 - I don't know what scares me most - Kanye West as President or Kim Kartrashian as First "Lady".
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caroline said... 177
The Duggar kids have not put their fertility out there
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umm...isn't fertility what this family is ABOUT?
they live and breath getting knocked up. It's their 'dream', to borrow a kate-ism.
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Yep. The show is 19 Kid and Counting. LOL And now that several of the kids are married/marriage age, it's ALL about fertility.
Jessa is doing whatever she can to get a reality show-- she's already 'bitter' that she can't 'share' her pregnancy and upcoming birth with her 'fans'. (actually, she's judt bitter about the $$$$$). And if that means taking her father-in-law's viewpoint so be it.
Frankly, her dismissing her brother's molesting 5 underage girls (1 as young as 5 yrs old) as 'curiosity' makes me ill.
The Duggars sold out. These reality families are all the same.
Get a college education you twit!
Admin made a boo boo this morning in her comment. She meant the Roloffs, not the Duggars. We were discussing last nights interview show.
Oops, meant to add:
See comments 123 and 124
TMZ:
"Little People, Big World" star Jacob Roloff is turning on the show ... or he's turning on his parents -- it's unclear -- but he's definitely pissed about money.
Jacob posted a message saying, "Man I wish it didn't feel like I was getting fu*ked out of the money from the show that was my childhood right now."
Amy and Matt Roloff's 18-year-old son was not more specific about who he feels is ripping him off. It's worth noting ... Jacob was noticeably absent from a recent wrap-up special that included every other family member.
Sources connected to production tell us Jacob, like all minors on TLC programs, had his own bank account where his salary was regularly deposited during his 9 years on the show.
Jacob's been on the show since the start, but was not heavily featured in the most recent season.
We've reached out to TLC ... so far no word back.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz3kbzjltoH
Waving to Hoosier Girl. Good to see your comment.
Putting this as diplomatically as possible - Jessa does not strike me as a nice person.
I guess that makes her great fodder for reality TV. Uvk.
"Sources connected to production tell us Jacob, like all minors on TLC programs, had his own bank account where his salary was regularly deposited..."
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Yeah, sure. Only because TLC was FORCED to pay minors, that is. A whopping 15%. Boy they must think all their viewers are as stupid as sheep.
caroline said... 177
The Duggar kids have not put their fertility out there
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umm...isn't fertility what this family is ABOUT?
they live and breath getting knocked up. It's their 'dream', to borrow a kate-ism.
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They had several episodes revolving around getting pregnant, pregnancies, ultrasounds, "change of life", fertility treatments, calendar charts, temperatures etc.
(Leslie)
Josh is now supposedly at a "rehab" that he will do hard labor, read the Bible and pray for hours a day.
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This rehab has every "patient" or whatever they are called, volunteer for 8 to 10 hours at least 5 days a week. I don't think it is hard labor by any means. I wonder when do they have actual therapy then. Man, I would want a lot of therapy if I was Josh and I don't see that happening when he is gone for 40 hours or more a week volunteering somewhere. And I wonder if the therapy place collects a check for each patients volunteer hours if they are actually working (volunteering) outside of the clinic.
Vanessa said... 188
caroline said... 177
The Duggar kids have not put their fertility out there
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umm...isn't fertility what this family is ABOUT?
they live and breath getting knocked up. It's their 'dream', to borrow a kate-ism.
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They had several episodes revolving around getting pregnant, pregnancies, ultrasounds, "change of life", fertility treatments, calendar charts, temperatures etc.
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Okay, I'm going to post this again. The comment about fertility was made by Admin @ 124. She made a mistake. She meant to say Roloffs not Duggars.
The conversation was about the questions the interviewer was asking Zak and Jeremy Roloff on the special last night.
Everybody knows the Duggars put their fertility out there.
Read the comments from 120 to 124. That's where the error was made.
Thanks PJ, was going to comment same. Of course Caroline meant the Roloffs.
Perez is now saying Amy is P'Od at Josh, blah, blah blah.
welcome back Hossier girl.
Any one hear from Chefsummer? Seems it has been a while, but then I have been knee-deep in grapes making this fall's batch of rumspringa, thanks to the girls here for holding me up in the barrel.
Starting to run outta straws, I think Auntie Anne has taken a few to convert out Tiaras into drinking vessels, or maybe that was/is just a dream.
The Duggars sold out. These reality families are all the same.
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Can I hear an "Amen"?
Okay, I'm going to post this again. The comment about fertility was made by Admin @ 124. She made a mistake. She meant to say Roloffs not Duggars.
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Oh NOOOOO! Just don't let Admin' s drive-by detractors know. There will be no end! ;)
(Leslie)
http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2012/03/my-year-as-an-lit/
This girl went to Bill Gothard a program that lasted for many months away from home. They would not allow her to take her medication for depression and obsessive compulsion because they believed any physiological problems were not of God. So they explains why Josh is in a christian rehab center with no doctors. It is so sad.
I have been reading at the recovering grace site and it is mind blowing. I thought the website was headed by a person who was disillusioned by Bill Gothard. But that is not the case at call. They over 24 people on staff: doctors, lawyers, etc. and most are ex-Bill Gothard followers. This man is so evil you would not believe it. It is excellent reading.
Any one hear from Chefsummer? Seems it has been a while, but then I have been knee-deep in grapes making this fall's batch of rumspringa, thanks to the girls here for holding me up in the barrel.
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Oh, thank gawd. I'm gonna need a "Mommy" Spa Day, what with our new yellow lab girl keeping me running around like crazy!
Oh, in fact, I'm making 8 fuckety billion dog biscuits right now! Gonna put them in the freezer later!
Well, well. Just found out Kim Davis' son, Nathan, is a deputy clerk under mommy. Kim Davis worked for years as a deputy clerk until her mother retired.
OT to Tucker's Mom. You're not the one that picked 200 pounds at peace valley are you?
AuntieAnn said
A curmudgeon monkey could make that stuff blindfolded. It's a regular old boring applesauce recipe but the narc had to leave her scent on it. "Mommy" applesauce. Apples, water, sugar and cinnamon. Isn't she just a frickin' culinary genius.
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Right? Easiest thing on earth to make. Plus, why is she reading her own recipe? I thought 'real cooks' don't have to read recipes???
Sue_Buddy said in #174: Well, there ya go. If TLC won't have them, the Duggars can all appear on DWTS. That should keep them and DWTS on the air for years to come. Yippee.
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Well, the Duggars REALLY won't appear on DWTS. Dancing to them is a sin. I recall once Michelle was talking about some little kids in a school room that she was visiting and the little kids were dancing. Michelle said something about the kids doing "exercises." She looked very uncomfortable. Nike!
She actually included a recipe for applesauce in a cookbook? Oy vey!
And why is she peeling the apples? I should sell her my recipe for pink applesauce. SMH
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