Nothing is being twisted. The "local" is quoted as saying they wondered what the men were doing "around the neighborhood."
And clearly you don't understand since you are incapable of understanding the basic concept that not all Middle Easterners are Muslim.
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Nope, you have to read the whole quote, the local also said this: "We’d see them leave where they’re raiding the apartment.”
He said they were in the neighborhood, THEN said, specifically at the site of the raid. He began broadly, then narrowed it. Perfectly reasonable way to explain it. It's both, they were in the neighborhood and at the site.
I'm not sure how he could get any clearer. They were in the exact same spot as the raid. He chose not to report it because people like you have convinced him that's racist. So well done, mission accomplished.
I'm well aware not all Middle Easterns are Muslim and you would have known that had you seen my comment a few weeks ago about how a lot of Syrians coming here are actually Christian.
Talk about creating a diversion that ties up authorities hands investigating "cool clocks". And it was at the suggestion of the leader of your country, no less.
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Yep that's what he tweeted all right. That's just classic Potus. Don't try to defuse the situation or give the benefit of the doubt. Make law enforcement look like idiots for responding to a very real looking BOMB. And make everyone else feel stupid for trying to keep the REST of the CHILDREN IN HIS CLASS SAFE.
Welcome to our POTUS. Gross.
The situation could have been a great example of how to handle what turned out to be "nothing" that caused minimum harm to all those involved most of all the innocent child. Instead, it got esculated into this thanks to POTUS, the family, and radicals. The us vs. them mentality is so darn infurating
I'm open minded but not so much that my brains are falling out. That clock looks like a bomb. A totally cool bomb, dude.
Gawd. ******* Total gaslighting.
Speaking of classic POTUS, I was rather angry about Obama addressing the 14 Americans shot dead like fish in a barrel in CA, while casually hunched over in a chair in the Oval. This ain't no fireside chat, my friend. Come on, man. 14 Americans are dead and 20-ish injured in what looks for all the world to be a terrorist attack, and you don't have the decency to show respect to the dead by standing up? That really cheesed me.
Don't get me started on addressing the American whose head was lopped off in a beheading, then 7 minutes later appearing on a golf course with a huge smile on your face. Ugh.
(sorry, rant over, but I'm glad I got that off my chest)
I think a large group of anybodys suddenly coming and going from a residence is worth a phone call.
Who knows what it's about, probably drugs or prostitution, or both. But in any case it needs to be investigated.
I don't care if it's women, men, white, not white. If it's sudden, unusual, not quite normal....it needs to be looked into. Nothing to do with racist or bigotry. IMO. ****** Some years ago, in my little neighborhood, a young kid lived with his grandmother. Sadly, she got cancer and her ex-husband moved in to "help." After she passed away, the grandfather continued to live in the home and be the guardian of this young man. At the same time, he moved in his disabled brother. All was fine for awhile, but then the disabled brother/uncle was put into a convalescent home, and that meant the disability checks stopped coming in. Turns out grandpa was a ne-er do well (which is probably why the grandma divorced him), never held down a job for long, and the only income for the household was the Social Security payments the young man received. Wasn't enough naturally, to cover bills. The home slowly turned into a flop house and I believe it was also a drug pick -up place. I don't think the grandfather was selling drugs - but I think one of his relatives used the location as a pick up point. There were cars coming and going day and night. We called the police numerous times. We wrote down license plate numbers. Cops even came out at least twice and did a thorough search. Grandpa was arrested, the comings and goings continued until he was finally evicted for non-payment of rent. It was awful.
While some people might call the police just because they see a person who looks Muslim to them, I would still prefer that be the action they take rather than attacking a mosque, attacking an individual in person, or otherwise harassing someone because of their skin color or perceived religious affiliation. Fear can make people do despicable things. I hope all Americans will keep their hearts open as well as their eyes.
In the case of this recent horrible shooting, I am not sure there were any obvious indications to co-workers. From the reports I've read, it sounds like this man got along fairly well with his co-workers, was liked, and perhaps the only red flag (if you could call it that) was that he didn't bring his wife into the workplace to introduce her to his co-workers. That's a bit unusual but if you called the police to report that, I'm not sure they'd take any action.
There is evil in this world. We can let it control us, make us people who are intolerant, casually cruel, and bigoted. Or we can continue to take each day at a time, take the time to know a person before we judge them, take basic precautions, but remember that it is not a particular religion that makes one evil -- but extremists of any kind that are the real problem. Extremists come from all walks of life and all religions, and those are the dangerous ones.
Border Collie said... 187 See something, say something. That sure worked out well for the muslim clock boy. The school caught national ridicule for sending him off with his bomb-looking clock, the president supported him and then invited him to the White House, then the kid goes with his family to Quatar, I believe, and now sued this country for millions of dollars. Oh yeah, after that the guy who observed the moving of many boxes into his neighbors house is now in trouble for being PC? Come on everybody, there is so much contradiction it can cut you in half. **** I believe the boy and his family are suing the school district, and the local police department - but they are not suing the United States of America. They are suing the school district and the police department in part because this boy was denied his right to have a parent present while being questioned. Also, the police quite quickly determined that the clock the boy made was not a bomb, and they did not call in the bomb squad, did not clear the school, or take other measures one would take upon suspecting a possible real bomb being present on the school grounds. They concluded that he had made a "hoax bomb" while he tried to explain that it was a clock. The school officials and the police badly mis-handled the entire situation, and that's why this boy and his family actually have a fairly decent lawsuit and will probably get a hefty settlement.
As to them moving to another country, why not if they were made to feel completely unwelcome in the United States?
If my child had made a clock from bits and pieces of things at home, took it to school to show his teacher, and then got questioned for hours and told he could not call me, his parent, I would blow a gasket. That is NOT RIGHT! There were several officers in the room with this young man, with no parent present. That is not right. I would be furious and I'd probably file a lawsuit against the school district and the police department. If you allow authorities to break the law, they must be held accountable.
Email interview with Robert regarding release of the original book.
Reality TV Scandals @RTVScandals · 25m25 minutes ago Exclusive: Q&A With Robert Hoffman @gosselinbook re-released @KatePlusMy8 How She Fooled The World
http://www.realitytvscandals.com/ Robert gave an interview to Amia...it's very interesting. He's back and has Garbus in his corner biting at the bit to get back to court for disclosures. So sue him Kate, see what happens. I dare ya!
Q. What made you re re release the first book, “Kate Gosselin, How She Fooled The World” knowing Kate put a copyright claim on the journals?
A. I’m not going to worry about what Kate Gosselin and her lawyers are going to do. It is my opinion that the Gosselin children have been irreparably harmed by their own mother and continue to be exploited and physically and emotionally abused to this day by their mother and it’s being covered up by a billion-dollar television network whose only interest in the Gosselin children is how much money they can generate in advertising dollars. It’s sick and twisted but the public can’t get enough apparently. I’m a big believer in ‘if you see something, say something’ and this is me speaking up once again on behalf of the children who can’t speak for themselves.
Q. Do you think Kate will have her attorneys pull the book?
A. I think the last thing in the world Kate Gosselin wants is to go through the excruciating discovery process of a lawsuit and have every detail of her life for the past 16 years put on display for the world to see. We on the other hand would love for that to happen. We have a lot of unfinished business with Ms. Gosselin in the inside of a courtroom in front of a judge and jury.
Q. What about TLC? Do you anticipate and legal action from them?
A. TLC has nothing to go to court with us about. All information used in this book was obtained absolutely legally. One of the most respected lawyers in the country if not the world is standing by waiting to finish what we started. I think the last ridiculous lawsuit Ms. Gosselin filed made her look foolish. She ended up running away from that suit with her tail between her legs. The next time she might not be so fortunate.
Q. Can you tell our readers what is different from the first book, Kate Gosselin, How She Fooled The World] and, “Kate Gosselin The Rise And Fall Of A Reality TV Queen”?
A. It you are at all interested in this story, then this is the version of the book you want to read. There is no paraphrasing this time around. You read Kate Gosselin’s words verbatim; Her emails; Her private journal where she details the beating of her babies in diapers; Her exchanges with her handlers, lawyers and her television executives.
This is a raw, unedited, gritty, unsanitized account of what transpired during the tabloid explosion years of Jon & Kate Plus Ei8ht with Dave Barry-like snarky commentary from the author who followed the Gosselin’s every move, sometimes 24/7 while covering the story for US Weekly. It’s for the reader who wants to dive into this mess and really get their hands dirty. You’ll feel like you’re there on the scene discovering new details and breaking tabloid news.
This version of the book is big. It contains 78,800 more words than the edited version. There are so many details that have yet to be discovered and reported on in the mainstream media. It’s not for the faint of heart
@kate is a twit I appreciate that robert is back finally after being silent for this whole year.Can't wait for what the die hard fans will say "grabs popcorn".However does anyone believe that re releasing the book will be enough for most people to stop watching?I hope but i just don't know what else Hoffman can do?
I think TLC needs to glom together unused footage with stuff that we've already shaken our heads about, do new interviews with people in the know and make a series of specials on what those kids had to live with. No pay to Kate, but what would have been paid out be donated to a PA child advocacy program.
People might watch. It might be must see TV.
Make DVDs! Go on publicity tours. Make signs to wave at Wal-Mart!
Put Robert's book on store shelves to promote the TLC special of Life with Mommy, Really.
I realize it will never happen, so no need to tell me so. :)
However does anyone believe that re releasing the book will be enough for most people to stop watching?I hope but i just don't know what else Hoffman can do? 13
I also doubt that it will stop the fanz from watching, but glad the original book is back out there and I finally got a copy.
Come on, man. 14 Americans are dead and 20-ish injured in what looks for all the world to be a terrorist attack, and you don't have the decency to show respect to the dead by standing up? That really cheesed me.
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But don't you know...terrorist groups/cells are under control and contained in this country, according to the POTUS? There is nothing to worry about.
No, what the local said is he saw a large group of men specifically coming and going to that family's single residence family home. That is absolutely a red flag sign of drugs, prostitution, or other illegal activity, hands down. Any cop will tell you so and I frequently read that in police reports (usually it's drugs).
Or maybe it's a freaking birthday party every day, I do not know, but make the damn phone call and 14 lives might have been saved.
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Exactly. And if you see an unusually high number of people going into the home on a regular basis but never leaving you might have a John Wayne Gacy situation going on there.
You make the phone call. I am sick and tired of pussyfooting around and walking on egg shells because I am afraid that someone will be offended or hurt, racial profiling be darned. You just may save one life or countless lives by picking up that phone and letting law enforcement do what they gotta do. Enough is enough.
I think TLC needs to glom together unused footage with stuff that we've already shaken our heads about, do new interviews with people in the know and make a series of specials on what those kids had to live with. No pay to Kate, but what would have been paid out be donated to a PA child advocacy program. 14
I also doubt that it will stop the fanz from watching, but glad the original book is back out there and I finally got a copy.
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I doubt it, too, but it sounds like Robert is good and pi$$ed off at Kate's latest exploitation binge. Good for Robert for saying Kate and her attorneys (giggle) be darned. I'd love to see her tied up in depositions with Martin Garbus firing the questions at her. I bet the string of "ums" would extend to California and back. She would be toast and she knows it.
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Thanks for the interview with RH. It's great how he is still championing the G kids.Sad to think their lives in his opinion are no better, despite their age and circumstances. Why on earth Kate retains custody and control is a mystery.
Or we can continue to take each day at a time, take the time to know a person before we judge them
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Actually, it's the investigators' job to do character assessments. They're trained for it.
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I have to agree with Auntie Ann. We should not be on our own trying to judge whether someone is a concern. Leave that to the experts. We also need to have a little more patience and understanding when things go wrong in such investigations. They're doing the best they can and under a tremendous amount of pressure. I would suggest if someone gets caught up in something like that, something like clock boy for instance, that they also do their part to not "judge" the authorities too harshly who are under tremendous pressure to get it right, expectations they cannot possibly live up to as they are only human and these things aren't precise.
The homeland security web site has lots of FAQs about what is something to contact authorities about and what you shouldn't worry yourself over. Truly, everyone should just follow that and nothing else.
If my child had made a clock from bits and pieces of things at home, took it to school to show his teacher, and then got questioned for hours and told he could not call me, his parent, I would blow a gasket. That is NOT RIGHT!
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I would blow a gasket too over that, but it wasn't just a child who made a clock that looks like an alarm clock. It looked like a bomb.
They had every right to question him for hours. Real bomb or fake one, both are extremely concerning. There have been enough school shooting incidents to take ANY weapon or imitation of a weapon seriously whether it turns out to just be a clock.
Yep, plus the teenies who are still of the middle school mentality. They seem to gravitate to her, have the attention span of a bag of hair, and flit off into the little Beliebers world. And, of course, that fan who tweets her morning platitudes/graphics, expanding to evening ones as well, then to weekends. It wouldn't surprise me if she does lunch break platitudes as well, with cutie food salutations. I have never seen Kate toss her a crumb for her efforts.
Sheeple are being used, but I'm beginning to think that some have seen the light. When will they start asking her if she will be live or dead tweeting during the episodes? Where is Milo and her daily countdown until the new season begins? I wonder if she made a special Kate calendar (her version of an Advent calendar) and she opens a window each each day until the season airs.
That is not right. I would be furious and I'd probably file a lawsuit against the school district and the police department.
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I haven't had time to totally read up on this, just some snippets here and there. What law did the police department/school district break that would be the basis for a lawsuit?
Police generally have immunity in such lawsuits anyway. They need to be free to conduct investigations without fear of litigation when it turns out to be nothing. Overcoming that immunity is going to be clock boy's first big hurdle.
"Where is Milo and her daily countdown until the new season begins?"
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LOL!! She is the Twitter Jester!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago This should be fun 2watch! #EndOfDateLesson from #Kateplus8 :) New season! Starts Dec.8th on @TLC http://youtube.com/watch?v=U_KyNLehBoo&sns=tw … … @kateplusmy8
"Police generally have immunity in such lawsuits anyway. They need to be free to conduct investigations without fear of litigation when it turns out to be nothing. Overcoming that immunity is going to be clock boy's first big hurdle."
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Yes, and I would believe that they have every right to err on the side of caution without thinking about a retaliation lawsuit.
I would love to know what it is about Kate that is such a turn-on for Milo? Is it her rocking body? Her voice? Her laugh? Her intelligence? The Surfer Girl look? Her magnetic personality? Or is it all of those things wrapped up into that desirable hot young body?
Why is Gladys so enamored with her that she wants to do the slap and tickle with her? They say that every pot has a lid, and if Milo is the pot, exactly why is she so obsessed with the lid?
Then again, why is UGGS so attracted to African American actors/comedians? It's always fun to see which one is her flavor of the month as she begs for shout-outs and meet and greets. At least, admin, you don't have to worry about her running off with Anderson!
Yes, and I would believe that they have every right to err on the side of caution without thinking about a retaliation lawsuit.
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Yes, they have to have that protection. You usually have to establish there was some kind of intentional unreasonable misconduct on their part to overcome that presumption of immunity. Mere negligence is not enough.
I just cannot imagine how any suit is going to prove such a thing after seeing a photo of that bomb. I mean, clock.
Gee Whiz @GeeWhiz__ 12h12 hours ago @Kateplusmy8 Just saw commercial for your show. I'll be watching on Tuesday. Will you be tweeting during the show?
...and Kate answers:
Kate GosselinVerified account @Kateplusmy8 @GeeWhiz__ YES MA’AM! We can’t wait to watch return of #KatePlus8 with you!!!!!!! Tuesday at 9pm on @TLC #SeeYouThere
Not without reading him his Miranda rights they don't.
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But that's what we call in the law harmless error. They ultimately released him and did not charge him. Therefore, there will be no trial and no statements made can be used against him in court.
That's not enough for a suit.
Now if they were going to charge the young man, then we might actually have a point with that. But they didn't, it's over. People go on and on about their rights, but unless the courts actually follow through on trying to use such statements against you, it's no harm no foul. And even if it WERE a trial, an attorney would simply get any statement he made without being read his rights thrown out. Again, no harm no foul. No lawsuit there. To put it more plainly, it's not really that you have a right to hear your rights. It's that you have a right not to have any statement you made used against you if they DIDN'T read you your rights. That said, I don't see a problem with the cops apologizing for that to help smooth things over and as a gesture of good faith as well as for not bringing his parents down to speak with him sooner, but a 15 million dollar lawsuit for something that never developed is ridiculous. There's two sides to every story, and the cops will get their turn to respond as the lawsuit plays out. They're not saying much now, which allows clock boy to control the narrative.
I still can't rule out this was a setup, pure and simple.
What a flurry of desperate tweets from La Katie tonight! Starting with this one:
Kate GosselinVerified account @Kateplusmy8 1h1 hour ago Hey guys!We’ve been busy!Took the kids out west 4 Thanksgiving #SansCameras &now back promoting return of r show #KatePlus8 !!!! What’s up?
#SansCameras? Is that also #SansPaycheckandHelpers? She was quite manic, I wonder if TLC lit a fire under her ass. She claims (not for the first time) not to have even started Xmas shopping. Really? What would Xmas be without Kate recycling her manic panic? I can't believe anyone really falls for this anymore. She had at least 25 tweeters who were paying attention and fawning just at the right moment---what are the odds that this was staged and TLC paid for 'em? I don't doubt it for a minute.
The kids? Wasn't she spotted by three different tweeters with JUST Mady and Cara going out west at the airport?
I'm betting that was their bribe payout for all that filming. A trip to LA and DWTS. The younger kids haven't quite realized they have her over a barrel.
I still can't rule out this was a setup, pure and simple.
_____________ Kind of like going to McDonalds and deliberately spilling hot coffee?
" I wonder if she made a special Kate calendar (her version of an Advent calendar) and she opens a window each each day until the season airs."
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I'd be up for designing that one. Open a window, and there's a close-up of the inflatables, yearning to be set free. Another window would feature the crotch shot of Kate in the athletic supporter, standing next to Mary Hart. Then there's always the pic of her from the rear, with a big splat of (pee?) on her behind. Imagine the fun one could have creating those "windows."
I don't know how many die-hard sheeple she has left. Of course, there is Milo, the always-hard sheeple. If you can believe tweets, there has been some in-fighting going on within the flock. I guess that's better than in-breeding.
Google "city of Irving demand letter" and you can read about the events of the day the boy was detained for several hours with up to 7 school officials and officers in the room, denied access to his parents, and told he needed to sign a confession re a "hoax bomb" or be expelled. And that was before he was taken in handcuffs to the police station. He is 14.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 36 The kids? Wasn't she spotted by three different tweeters with JUST Mady and Cara going out west at the airport? ------------------------- No, at least a couple said they saw "the family." (Which I'm sure included Steve and at least a couple of aides.) It's interesting how she says "took the kids out west 4 Thanksgiving #SansCameras"---as if to say, had they been home for a family Thanksgiving, there would necessarily have been cameras? But what about all those missed memories?
TLC had jumped the shark on this nonsensical "reality" show back in 2011, when they quite logically cancelled her. I don't know who's running the place now, but they clearly aren't playing with a full deck. TLC's chief exec was the highest-paid guy in media last year. Somehow, I don't think we're gonna see a repeat of that, despite the seemingly endless iterations of the same-old, same-old on K8 Plus K8.
So she's promoting her show? Which sheeple will be in the Walmart parking lot this time around? Carlene? Denise? Gladys? Leigh? Lauren? Brunson? Get out that bullhorn and video cam!
What happened to Kate's extensive media tour? Was she only on one show?
Then there is this poor soul...
Palma Ryckebusch @RyckebuschPalma @celeb_babyscoop @Kateplusmy8 bummer I missed it!!! 😞
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 36 The kids? Wasn't she spotted by three different tweeters with JUST Mady and Cara going out west at the airport?
I'm betting that was their bribe payout for all that filming. A trip to LA and DWTS. The younger kids haven't quite realized they have her over a barrel. ------------------------- I'm with Sad But True on this one. The tweets mentioned "family" or "kids". The idea that it was just the twins or that DWTS was involved was pure speculation. I don't believe she was seen at DWTS or that she tweeted about being there.
Speculation, even plausible speculation, is not evidence!
======================== I had a similar problem with her supposedly saying that dating was a waste of time because she could spend the time with her kids. She actually said she'd rather spend the time sleeping! Someone commented that claiming she wanted to be with her kids would have been better than claiming she wanted to sleep, and that was followed by comments about her saying she wanted to be with her kids. She didn't say that! Someone thought she should have, but she didn't!
I wonder if they were visiting the "close, family friend, who flew in to babysit while she did CA?
So, she announced "#SansCameras" Like she doesn't read here. I think the tweet frenzy is deflection due to the return of Robert Hoffman and the book. When has she ever promoted the show?
The former Here Comes Honey Boo Boo star told Radar she was resigned to the fact that she was treated differently than other scandal-plagued reality families. "It is what it is. "They are bringing Kate Plus 8 and they told me she was the worst person to work for and they were never going to bring her back," she claimed. "I can't believe TLC is bringing her back.
"#SansCameras" -- good grief, TFW thinks she's a Jackie O or something. I am fascinated by this woman's fascination with herself.
P.J. (#44), I think you're right. The sudden Chatty Cathy emerged to trying to deflect attention from Robert's book. "C'mon, girlfriends, let's chitchat! Tweet me live on Tuesday! It'll, be, like, SO much fun!" Where was this BFF when Thanksgiving came and went without a word? And don't let anyone try to say she put her phone away while she was with her kids. I think that's when she's on it the most.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 46 "#SansCameras" -- good grief, TFW thinks she's a Jackie O or something. I am fascinated by this woman's fascination with herself. ****** But, wait. I'm so confused! Kate's life is on camera, so how does this happen? Is it even possible? I really need Stephen Hawking to explain this to me! String Theory? A Black Hole? Aliens?
Tucker's Mom (#48), I'd say something about "A Wrinkle In Time," but TFW might think I'm talking about her forehead and double up on the botox injections.
If a narcissist eats turkey and there's no one there to film it, is the bird still alive?
The former Here Comes Honey Boo Boo star told Radar she was resigned to the fact that she was treated differently than other scandal-plagued reality families. "It is what it is. "They are bringing Kate Plus 8 and they told me she was the worst person to work for and they were never going to bring her back," she claimed. "I can't believe TLC is bringing her back.
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Honey boo boo child makes a fair point. In other words, wtf!
The former Here Comes Honey Boo Boo star told Radar she was resigned to the fact that she was treated differently than other scandal-plagued reality families. "It is what it is. "They are bringing Kate Plus 8 and they told me she was the worst person to work for and they were never going to bring her back," she claimed. "I can't believe TLC is bringing her back.
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Honey boo boo child makes a fair point. In other words, wtf!
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I wonder how exactly this all played out. They were definately done with her. They really threw her under the bus in her last series episode. How the hell did she worm her way back? Did they say do some other shows and if we hear you were not a problem to work with, we will give you another chance? I don't get it, especially with the mediocre ratings.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 49 Tucker's Mom (#48), I'd say something about "A Wrinkle In Time," but TFW might think I'm talking about her forehead and double up on the botox injections.
If a narcissist eats turkey and there's no one there to film it, is the bird still alive? ******* Maybe they ate Schrodinger's turkey for Thanksgiving!
"#sanscameras" probably means that she'd already bribed the kids (at least the twins) with the trip and couldn't get TLC to foot the bill. I still think she went to the finale of DWTS but didn't get any face time (or good seats). Hell, she might have been relegated to the crowd at The Palms. Only speculation of course but the picture of the twins in the team whomever sweatshirts is very suspect. She never does anything just because.
I'm just going through the week's California Court of Appeal cases and saw this case about a family who tried to sue the cops. Just reminded me of our discussion and how hard it is to win when you sue cops even when cops did something wrong, especially since this one involves something similar, cops holding children. A summary:
"Police officers who allegedly took custody of plaintiff’s children without reasonable cause or a court order were entitled to qualified immunity from plaintiff’s 42 U.S.C. Sec. 1983 claim for violation of plaintiff’s Fourteenth Amendment right to familial association, and the children’s Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable seizure. Officers were not incompetent in believing that they were legally authorized to act in reliance on the Department of Human Services’ determination that the children were in imminent danger. Even if they were mistaken in their belief that they could remove the children at the direction of DHS without court authorization, their actions were objectively reasonable under the circumstances."
Maybe Milo threatened to grab Carlene and go to to Silver Springs MD(?) for a little visit with Discovery if they didn't give Kate more face time on TV. That would make me rethink banishing Kate from my line-up, how about you?
I wonder how exactly this all played out. They were definately done with her. They really threw her under the bus in her last series episode. How the hell did she worm her way back? Did they say do some other shows and if we hear you were not a problem to work with, we will give you another chance? I don't get it, especially with the mediocre ratings. ****** It's a mystery. How and why did TLC not only bring Kate back, but positively shower her with expensive things? I wonder if she's got some hurty dirt on someone(s).
Spin all you want, but this is not right, in any legal or moral sense. If this had been my child, we would have been furious and probably retained legal counsel. I completely understand how this family chose to leave the country too. 7 hours of questioning without access to parents or a lawyer. At 14. A nerdy geek kid. Someone reached way too far. I will not speak to the lawsuit since I know nothing about it.
Now back to scrolling. Oh, out west for Thanksgiving #SansCameras? Someone had to be paying for part of that. Her wallet is glued shut.
It's a mystery. How and why did TLC not only bring Kate back, but positively shower her with expensive things? I wonder if she's got some hurty dirt on someone(s).
I've always that Kate was doing special favors ( if you know what I mean) to someone at the top. This is Kate so I wouldn't put it past her.
You would really leave the country over this? Wow. It seems to me this might be able to be solved without people packing up their blocks and leaving the country if everyone involved eats some humble pie and apologizes to the young man. An apology can sometimes work wonders. And heaven forbid maybe clock boy's family could apologize about a clock that looks exactly. like. a. bomb. Even if it's an apology that says although we certainly never intended to have our son construct anything resembling a weapon, we understand now that it sure looked that way to others and we understand why alarm bells went off. I believe they might have been so caught up in the construction they didn't think about what it looked like, I guess. But they need to be reasonable and understand that when you google the photo it looks no different than a terrorist bomb. Life is about give and take and I do not believe this situation had to escalate like this.
I'm disappointed that this impressionable young man is learning that when something goes wrong, escalate it to the next level. Instead of when something goes wrong, is there a reasonable solution we can all come to that makes all parties happy.
And like I said, there's two sides to every story and only clock boy has been telling the story so far.
Now back to scrolling. Oh, out west for Thanksgiving #SansCameras? Someone had to be paying for part of that. Her wallet is glued shut.
OrangeCrusher1 **************************************** There's a lot of people sharing the link to Robert's interview on various FB pages.
Say TLC airs the episodes they have in the can and doesn't resume filming next year. If she got paid $40,000 per episode x the 8 episodes ready to go, that's $320,000 minus taxes, etc. So she's set for another year? What's everyone's best guess as to how long the money she has squirreled away will last IF she's no longer on TV?
Say TLC airs the episodes they have in the can and doesn't resume filming next year. If she got paid $40,000 per episode x the 8 episodes ready to go, that's $320,000 minus taxes, etc. So she's set for another year? What's everyone's best guess as to how long the money she has squirreled away will last IF she's no longer on TV?
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Plus her hefty paycheck from CA. And she could save a lot of that and watch it grow. I think she's good forever as long as she continues to save.
I have to admit I've been shocked that she's kept that house, the private school, and the upper middle class lifestyle all this time. Better people have not been able to maintain what she has under similar paychecks coming in.
You misunderstand. I said I understand how they might leave, but without knowing the details I suspect the parent or parents decided to take a job offer in another country. And that makes some sense to me. And I also think referring to this young man as 'clock boy' is disrespectful. Again,having raised three teens to adulthood, there are parts of this story that make me really angry.
And I also think referring to this young man as 'clock boy' is disrespectful. Again,having raised three teens to adulthood, there are parts of this story that make me really angry.
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Everyone's calling him clock boy even people who support him. I totally understand a parent identifying with the idea of their child being detained and how scary that is. Like I said, I think there needs to be some give and take. I think this young man needs to take some responsibility. He's not a baby, he's fourteen. When you make something that looks just like a bomb, people are going to panic. When people are panicking, sometimes they're not rational. It certainly does not mean his rights should be violated, but it never would have happened in the first place had he not constructed the clock that way. There are a dozen ways to construct a clock that don't look like that. Sometimes there's value in trying to take a step back and understand the other side's perspective without going on the defensive immediately, and that goes for both clock boy and the authorities.
I really don't see anything from that side of things acknowledging, hey, I understand why that bomb-clock freaked folks out a little, especially in light of recent events and the country as on edge as we have been since 9-11. That's called maturity.
We will have to agree to disagree then. Our global viewpoints are very different; other than K8, we just do not see things the same way. And that's fine, no need to belabor this further.
So on that subject, seriously, what went down to get TLC in bed with her again? Honey Boo Boo asks the right question here. Even filler, even December, they certainly filmed the shit out of the kids this summer. Built an expensive deck, went on vacay, and probably picked up some of the tab for Thanksgivng in the west. And the biotch can barely tweet about her upcoming 'season'. So glad no one wanted to give her face time at DWTS tho.
Plus her hefty paycheck from CA. And she could save a lot of that and watch it grow. I think she's good forever as long as she continues to save.
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How much was she paid for CA? She must really view her childhood as deprived if she's able to hoard her money like that. However, if she doesn't remain on TV, I think she'll start using some of the money in an attempt to remain in the public eye . . another self-published book, filming the kids on her own and putting it on a subscription-only youtube site. She might even make some bad investments in order to capitalize on the money she has left.
I don't want her bankrupt--if she can maintain the lifestyle until the kids are out of school and in college, fine. But she needs to support them for a change.
You know in a weird way I wonder if her own stupidity has actually helped her to hang onto her money so well.
I doubt she knows the first thing about how to manage money and I doubt she finds much interest in logging onto Vanguard and analyzing her investments. What she would know, however, is to hire a financial advisor/manager. If she did that, maybe through Steve's contacts, and got a good one and just left them alone to do their thing? Well then, being financially stable actually makes sense.
So glad no one wanted to give her face time at DWTS tho.
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And you know that pissed her off!! If she had just played nice, concentrated on what Tony tried to teach her and put in some effort, the twins could have at least had a backstage tour, she might have gotten a few seconds of face time and DWTS might have been interested in the twins being on the show ala Bindi. But there's no way she's going to be able to market the twins for appearances on other shows/networks..
I wonder if TFW taking the kids away for Thanksgiving was TFW punishing Jon in some way. Maybe those Montana people offered to put all 9 of them up for free. But airfare for 9 would still be a fortune. Yes, it's certainly uncharacteristic for TFW to spend money on her children, based on all we've seen, unless there's a dollar dangling.
Its the same with the duggars.TLC also refuses to get rid of them as well as Kate.You can't tell me TLC won't try to give the duggar girls more specials after these couple.Have to agree with June,why does TLC even bother returning these shows?
I've been thinking that TFW may have taken a pay cut in order to get more episodes and all the perks (deck, trips, etc.). It just doesn't make sense that TLC would continue to pay her $40K and give her all that shit. We all know that she'd do the show for practically nothing because she's addicted to fame.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 68 Honey Boo Boo asks the right question here.
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Something we never thought we'd say.
Honey Boo Boo, the voice of reason. ------------------------------ It was actually her mother, June Shannon, who said it. I didn't think it was the type of thing a child would say. Though the comments still apply. Who would've thunk Mama June was the voice of reason?
Jon and Kate made a small fortune at the many speaking engagements they had, charging something like $25K per venue, plus expenses. Then they were selling their family photos at $20 a pop. She's been comped with clothing, all new appliances and furniture and a ton of other 'stuff' from various companies. Multiple Blessings sold 523,000 copies in 2009 alone. She had to have a made a cool two or three million from that. And according to her she said the he college funds are taken care of. Then there is the income from various appearances like DWTS, CA and of course good old TLC.
So she's probably sitting pretty as far as finances go especially if Steve and his other wife are advising her about investments.
She's done well for someone whose only talents are selling her kids and whining.
Oh and btw she's still on the All American Speakers website if anyone wants booking info on her.
" Education: The Reading Hospital and Medical Center, Occupation: Television personality, author, former nurse"
I really don't see anything from that side of things acknowledging, hey, I understand why that bomb-clock freaked folks out a little, especially in light of recent events and the country as on edge as we have been since 9-11. That's called maturity.
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I think the mature thing to do might have been for his dad or mother to phone the school and let them know exactly what his son had built, send a photo, and ask permission to bring it to school so as not to raise any alarm. It would have saved a lot of trouble for everyone.
Susan1956 said... 34 TFMJG blocked me on Twitter!! Without any warning or have a nice day!!! All I did was tweet her the link to Robert's interview.
I really have a feeling that Christmas is coming early for those of us who don't like child abusers and Karma has one foot inside Katie's door.
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Welcome to the club Susan1956! She has blocked a couple of my twitter handles. But she can still see a tweet that you post if you go to Twitter Tunnel and look up her twitter and reply on a post that is to her and add her name on it. I have for a long time replied on Milo's postings because I know TFW follows it/he/she.
So on that subject, seriously, what went down to get TLC in bed with her again? Honey Boo Boo asks the right question here. Even filler, even December, they certainly filmed the shit out of the kids this summer. Built an expensive deck, went on vacay, and probably picked up some of the tab for Thanksgivng in the west. And the biotch can barely tweet about her upcoming 'season'. So glad no one wanted to give her face time at DWTS tho.
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I sometimes wonder if she's holding something over their head, like she has some "dirt" on them that they don't want exposed. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but it's just a gut feeling that something isn't on the up and up there.
So glad to hear from Robert! And he still has Garbus backing him up. Insane & Good at the same time. Wow. Don't you know she is CHAPPED to unbelief? I have only read bits and parts of my Kindle copy and it is hard to read. I can't imagine reading worse things in this raw unedited book. I might go and take a peek on amazon for a sample.
Katie's cookbook is now $2.82. There is still time to order for Christmas. I looked inside the book and she must have a deal with Campbell's soup. I also noted her recipe for HOMEMADE noodles....3 eggs and 3 cups of flour. Wow....she really knows her way around eggs and flour.
Maybe Milo threatened to grab Carlene and go to to Silver Springs MD(?) for a little visit with Discovery if they didn't give Kate more face time on TV. That would make me rethink banishing Kate from my line-up, how about you?
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LOL! Yep. That would do it. Throw Denise in there, along with Ms Uggs and they'll give Kate as much air time as she wants!
Our beloved St. Tony of the Ballroom said that when he was dancing with Leah Remini, he and she were followed by Scientologists. Even following him without her. They were doing everything they could to get dirt on Leah big time.
They had been calling and harassing Leah's sister just right after Leah left the cult. Then on the first day of Leah's book signing, someone hacked into Leah's sister's social media and replaced her avatar with a picture of a man's private part. The timing was just to much to be a coincidence
Is anyone here going to bite the bullet, so to say, and record K+8 to get a list of the sponsors? Why have the anti Duggars been so much more successful at boycotting sponsors than those trying to boycott K+8? I think Kate's "anti lovers" are much lazier than the Duggar's. I personally think her views will only be around 1M.
Welcome to the club Susan1956! She has blocked a couple of my twitter handles. But she can still see a tweet that you post if you go to Twitter Tunnel and look up her twitter and reply on a post that is to her and add her name on it. I have for a long time replied on Milo's postings because I know TFW follows it/he/she. ********************** It's a great club Redbird! I only have the 1 twitter account right now. I've been going to Milo's twitter on the computer and tweeting them both as well as TLC. Did you see the meme I made out of a picture of Kate on Milo's timeline? If you find it and like it, feel free to share it with others. Does Milo block people--I'm wondering if she will eventually block me?
Is anyone here going to bite the bullet, so to say, and record K+8 to get a list of the sponsors? Why have the anti Duggars been so much more successful at boycotting sponsors than those trying to boycott K+8? I think Kate's "anti lovers" are much lazier than the Duggar's. I personally think her views will only be around 1M. **************************** I was thinking of watching it with the sound off in order to make a list of the sponsors--I'd rather read admin's recaps than listen to Cruella talk out both sides of her mouth.
As to whether the anti-Kate camp is lazier than the anti-Duggar camp, I do periodically write different sponsors re: whether or not they will continue to advertise on Kate's show and last year was able to convince a local children's hospital not to advertise on the show. I haven't received a lot of firm responses and tend to think that Kate is enough of a D-lister with only very short seasons, doesn't do many, if any, speaking and is not so much in one's face as the Duggars with their holier than thou attitude. Sorry, don't know how to explain it any better than that. Plus, Robert hasn't gotten any exposure on the national talk shows. I'm hoping both Robert and his attorney do a media tour this time.
@susan1956 Rumor has it that Milo blocks anyone who tries to get her to meet with Kate and arrange a date for her to go.She never blocks haters but she got upset when someone brought up her meeting Kate and blocked them.
@susan1956 Rumor has it that Milo blocks anyone who tries to get her to meet with Kate and arrange a date for her to go.She never blocks haters but she got upset when someone brought up her meeting Kate and blocked them.
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There were multiple tweets to her from several non-fans about meeting Kate. It wasn't just one person. Has she blocked all of them? She still seems to read their tweets because she comments on what they have tweeted.
#99 - I believe that rumor. Seems Milo has gone out of her way to avoid actually meeting Kate. That was my first hint that Milo is not one woman living in the South who is a Kate warrior. I still believe it's someone who thinks Kate Gosselin is a huge joke and is poking at her with each slobbering tweet. I think it's all pure sarcasm.
@High sodium content,another thing you have to take into consideration(and this is something i've noticed),is with child abuse,its that they've been people who try to excuse Kate's abuse by saying she spanks her kids or discipline her kids by spanking.Which some believe is not abuse.Whereas with the duggars,there is no excuse for molesting a child,both duggars and their fans tried to down play his abuse by saying he was only a teenager.But we all know thats no excuse for molesting children.This is just my opinion because i feel this is one of the reasons why the public doesn't have an outrage over Kate like the duggars.But hopefully with Robert's re release,he'll get offered interviews,but who knows.
If you like saga-type stories, those that follow a family or friends through many years, I'd recommend "A Dance to the Music of Time." It follows a group of boys through university in England in the 20s through 50 years. It's quite well done.
There were multiple tweets to her from several non-fans about meeting Kate. It wasn't just one person. Has she blocked all of them? She still seems to read their tweets because she comments on what they have tweeted.
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If I recall, it wasn't just one time, but the non-fans egged her on, knowing that she gets upset. She lost her cool in a way that I have never seen her do before...she was in a frenzy over it. If they want to work Milo into a dither, pestering her about meeting Kate is the way to do it!
Over And Out (#104), didn't Gladys tweet at some point to the people egging her on to meet TFW, "It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS?" The very words which she can not possibly comprehend when it comes to her non-stop grilling of her true love on anything from bathing rituals to her kids' underwear?
Over And Out (#104), didn't Gladys tweet at some point to the people egging her on to meet TFW, "It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS?" The very words which she can not possibly comprehend when it comes to her non-stop grilling of her true love on anything from bathing rituals to her kids' underwear?
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Yes, and all of the poking and jabbing and just kidding around that the non-fans do to Gladys doesn't seem to bother her much at all, but just the suggestion of her meeting Kate, and the non-fans tweeting TLC with the idea to air a meet and greet between Gladys and Kate was enough to really rattle her. I wonder why.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/06/kate-gosselin-tell-all-book-release-tlc-special/ ******** About re-releasing the book, more allegations that Jon wants money from Kate, deadbeat dad, in cahoots with Robert to split profits, Jon uses his kids to extort money from Kate and wants alimony (hasn't that horse left the barn like years ago?) blah blah blah. Same old crap about happy happy filming so Kate can pay the bills.
The "close family source" also puts forth the same lame defense that since Robert never lived in the compound, he has no idea what went on. Not like he didn't interview scads of scads of people, and not that most of what's in the book is Kate's own words.
NJGal51 said... 110 http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/06/kate-gosselin-tell-all-book-release-tlc-special/ ======== This story is from June 2014. ***** Oops, sorry. It reads like it's current.
It does read like it's a current story Tucker's Mom. I just happened to notice the date on it. I wonder if there will be a similar story from TFW's camp or if she's just hoping that it will go away.
In other news, how many think that she'll start her tweeting frenzy tonight to promote the show? She'd better get going or the Twitter bots won't be able to do their job and tweet how excited they are and how they can't believe how much the kids have grown (or how great/young she looks after having 8 kids).
@Tucker's mom but regardless,this will be the accuses at Robert and some reason Jon is involved,if and whenever this re released story gets put on a tabloid article.Another thing to is that,if this book is lies,why doesn't Kate just put this whole thing to rest and sue Robert for slander?Also why would someone be so stupid as to accuse someone of child abuse and risk getting sued by that person for slander?The Kate defenders logic makes no sense.
Jamesvader1194 said... 114 @Tucker's mom but regardless,this will be the accuses at Robert and some reason Jon is involved,if and whenever this re released story gets put on a tabloid article.Another thing to is that,if this book is lies,why doesn't Kate just put this whole thing to rest and sue Robert for slander?Also why would someone be so stupid as to accuse someone of child abuse and risk getting sued by that person for slander?The Kate defenders logic makes no sense. ****** In Robert's recent interview, he seems defiant and it would be hysterical if Kate did indeed run from her own lawsuit with her tail between her legs. I found it interesting that Robert alleges with certainty that the abuse continues to this day. I mean, we know Kate's back to filming the crap out of the kids again, but I wonder if she's still hitting and punishing them. Also, whatever spending Thanksgiving "out west" means, even without cameras, I highly doubt she flew them across the country without some personal motive.
Adm, delete if not allowed. Here is the link.. The meme is on the bottom right under photos and videos. Milo has the same picture on her timeline with some platitude about watching the show and it sparked me to look up how to make a meme.
TLC Stinks (#117), I think it was from when she did Celebrity Apprentice, that 2 women from Montana stayed with the kids. TFW said they were either sisters, or like sisters to the G kids -- I don't remember which.
TLC stinks said... 117 Didn't Kate claim that when she did DWTS a friend from out west watched the kids? ---------------------------- That was during CA. JON stayed at the manse with the kids when she did DWTS, at least during the early weeks.
TLC stinks, the "old family friend whatever" were from Montana. I always thought that was strange because when she was doing DWTS, we never had the state of Montana on our radar.
Even though I am not in the house, I wholeheartedly believe that TFW still hits, slaps, curses, threatens, bribes, screams, leaves the kids with young babysitters, demeans, belittles those kids and still treats them like dirt in reference to their father. The boys have the worst of it and especially C. She maybe might not be able to get by with it so much with the twins because they figured it out. I believe she still does it to the girls and boys. They will figure it out pretty soon.
They will be 12 in 5 months, which means the twins will be 16 next year and only less than 2 years until the twins can legally write a book. Would be something if a book they wrote about their mother dropped on Amazon at 12:01 the day of their 18th birthday! hahaha
Total speculation here, but could TFW have gone out west for some cosmetic enhancements? I didn't watch the Today interview, but did anyone notice anything that might've been "freshened up?" Not to be confused with "happied up," which involves beating your young children. Just wondering if maybe she had a procedure done, and wanted to recuperate away from home.
This is my TLC theory. We figure Kate will get about a million viewers for each episode. Specials on the Duggar girls would probably be a little more. TV is in a tough position these days. People watch in so many different ways now with Hulu, Netflix, etc. I think the executive thinks a million viewers is great when compared to the risk of a new show. No one seems to have the patience and money to nurture a new show and make it work.
That does not explain why they gave Kate a new deck but we don't know the compensation package. If she's paid by deck, how do the kids get their 15%?
Shyla said... 123 This is my TLC theory. We figure Kate will get about a million viewers for each episode. Specials on the Duggar girls would probably be a little more. TV is in a tough position these days. People watch in so many different ways now with Hulu, Netflix, etc. I think the executive thinks a million viewers is great when compared to the risk of a new show. No one seems to have the patience and money to nurture a new show and make it work. ***** We've speculated about this before. Cable is hurting. Too many channels to compete with and now with streaming, there's a plethora of quality programming that's worth the time to watch. TLC must be more than happy to get around 1 million viewers per episode, based on the fact that Kate is getting multiple-episode seasons back to back. I don't know why they don't consider her show back in their lineup. Clearly, it's no longer cancelled.
I don't know why they don't consider her show back in their lineup. Clearly, it's no longer cancelled.
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Because it's filler. They are in a position to keep her off balance. They're calling the shots and it's payback for the days when she called the shots. Keep her guessing. How cheap can they go? I'd say they're playing her like a fine tuned fiddle. They know they can offer next to nothing and she'll still jump at the chance. They're maintaining their profit margin. TLC is #winning!
That does not explain why they gave Kate a new deck but we don't know the compensation package. If she's paid by deck, how do the kids get their 15%?
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But that's the beauty of it; they don't. It's the same as naming her as a "producer". It's a way to shelter money so that she gets an even bigger piece of the pie that's divided 9 ways. 85% for her and 8 shares of 15%. The more money they divert from the paycheck, the less legally is owed to the kids.
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You're welcome redbird. I just picked up a couple followers on twitter. Is one of them you?
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Although TLC is filming Kate and the children again, I think that in their own sly way TLC is also keeping their distance. I think a term that fits is plausible deniabilty--the TLC execs must be a little concerned because if Robert's book gets enough publicity, they could face some tough questions as what they know, have seen, etc.
Tucker's Mom (#124), your post made me think about TLC's strange relationship with TFW. It's almost like they're sheepish about the fact that she's still on their lineup. On Divorce Court, they sometimes talk about a woman who is a guy's "side piece" -- his relationship outside of marriage, that he's ashamed to admit he keeps being involved with. I think TFW is TLC's side piece.
TLC seems to be hurting these days--none of their shows get high ratings. Jon and Kate, 19 Kids, and The Little Couple, and a few others used to average 2-3 million viewers per show, but now they seem content to settle for 1 million on any show. It's interesting that they didn't film Thanksgiving, and will not (from what was reported by Kate on the Today Show) film Christmas. If TLC was really committed to making K+8 a regular show, wouldn't they use every opportunity to film while the kids are out of school? Instead, they seem wary, waiting to see how the ratings turn out before committing to more filming. Of course, Kate doesn't see it that way. She seems to think they will be going back to the way it used to be, filming constantly and her making millions per year.
People wonder why TLC took her back, and I wonder if perhaps she told them she was broke. She was out of money, they couldn't find anyone else to film them, she couldn't possibly go back to a normal job, the kids would lose their house and their school, and how would that look to the public if TLC left them high and dry? It could be a combination of pity and PR for TLC. No matter if Kate still had money left, she has never had a problem lying and manipulating to get what she wants. But it doesn't look like she makes all that much from filming now, considering how huge her expenses are. Only 10 episodes aired in the last 18 months, and at 40K each (minus the kids' 15% and taxes), she wouldn't have enough to cover the house and the kids' tuition and all the other expenses for long. She'd want to step up the game. We'll see how far TLC is willing to go.
I'd rather chew tin foil than watch an episode of Kate Plus 8, but I will certainly be watching how the ratings turn out. I really do think that this is the season when ratings are going to drop below the 1 million mark--and stay there.
Tucker's Mom (#124), your post made me think about TLC's strange relationship with TFW. It's almost like they're sheepish about the fact that she's still on their lineup. On Divorce Court, they sometimes talk about a woman who is a guy's "side piece" -- his relationship outside of marriage, that he's ashamed to admit he keeps being involved with. I think TFW is TLC's side piece. 88888888888888888888
Since this blog was one McGibney tried to get shut down through vicious lies and criminal harassment; I thought this might be of interest to those of you he targeted. He picked on the wrong person (as we all predicted he would) and that put an end to his King of The Internet dreams:
" James McGibney (who we don’t like) came into the world like a Lion with a bunch of fast and furious filings of some frivolous lawsuits. Now he is going out like a little Lamb due to him suffering severe losses, court sanctions and (most importantly) MISSING COURT DEADLINES TO FILE DOCUMENTS...."
Ingrid (#135), thanks for that link about the book.
Has Gladys mentioned it yet? She never seems to miss an opportunity to bash Robert and Jon, whom she dubbed the "wimpy boys." Or did she finally realize her comments only bring unwanted attention to the book?
Tucker's Mom (#124), your post made me think about TLC's strange relationship with TFW. It's almost like they're sheepish about the fact that she's still on their lineup. On Divorce Court, they sometimes talk about a woman who is a guy's "side piece" -- his relationship outside of marriage, that he's ashamed to admit he keeps being involved with. I think TFW is TLC's side piece.
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Side piece, that's perfect.
She puts them in the green from time to time so it's worth it to them, but they're not exactly proud of it. It's almost like they begrudge that it still makes financial sense to keep her along. Like the 22 year old son you feel like you should probably kick out of the house but at the same time you like that he cooks and cleans for you and says I love you Mom.
Kate, for her part, grovels to this in this odd relationship.
Total speculation here, but could TFW have gone out west for some cosmetic enhancements?
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Sure, a little nip tuck.
On another note it's odd the way she always says "out west" like it's the 19th century. I don't usually hear people refer to it that way. It's the West Coast, California coast, or people refer to it by state, California/Oregon/Colorado/whatever.
I guess it's just obnoxiously vague about where she is, which she loves.
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It might be cheaper if the lumber company, etc. donated the materials in exchange for plugs/being named in the credits. Remember how many companies provided furnishings, etc. when the Duggars 'built' their new house. And Kate may be happy to take less of a salary now vs. the increased profit when she does downsize/sell the house.
@NOIP Im starting to realize more and more that the BV outings had nothing to do with the women on whatever blog the Kate fans say they were outed on.I've herd that Bullyville did go after this blog even though it doesn't even mention any private info about the fans.Im learning more and more that BV just wanted to silence Kate critics on the internet.So i guess the fans lied about that whole fan outings.Funny enough i did see a comment on viaview files gave a shout out to the admin on here about how BV was scare cause he found out she's a lawyer.
Since this blog was one McGibney tried to get shut down through vicious lies and criminal harassment; I thought this might be of interest to those of you he targeted. He picked on the wrong person (as we all predicted he would) and that put an end to his King of The Internet dreams:
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I've been looking at that blog since it began and I can't figure out the players in the whole thing, but it seems like he is getting his just desserts. The lawsuits can be really confusing as to who is suing whom, but the bottom line is that BV isn't the "hero" and knight in shining armor that Kate made him out to be. Is she still following him?
Because it's filler. They are in a position to keep her off balance. They're calling the shots and it's payback for the days when she called the shots. Keep her guessing.
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I'm betting it's a legal thing too. They're treating her as an as-needed contract employee and want to be able to cut her loose whenever they feel like without having some big complicated contract that locks them into 13 episodes or whatever. I see them doing this with a lot of families, little people included.
P.J. said... 125 ... Because it's filler. They are in a position to keep her off balance. They're calling the shots and it's payback for the days when she called the shots. Keep her guessing. How cheap can they go? I'd say they're playing her like a fine tuned fiddle. They know they can offer next to nothing and she'll still jump at the chance. They're maintaining their profit margin. TLC is #winning!
-------------------- I think you're dead right about this. Kate in 2015 is nowhere near the phenomenon of Kate 2009. TLC is way behind the 8-ball in terms of the new TV paradigm: People paying for what THEY choose to watch and not what TLC chooses to make. Not only are cable packages on the wane, I suspect TLC is on top of the networks being shaved off what people are willing to pay for. I predict huge losses for this network sooner rather than later. The rapidity with which people are switching over to streaming TV (which TLC appears in no shape to counter in terms of original programming) is staggering.
It's pretty noticeable how adrift Kate is now. She got her "moment" on the Kathie Lee and Hoda show this week; but outside of E!Online, I saw NO other mainstream tab (ROL, Daily Mail, Access Hollywood, Extra!) bother to pick up the story about her show's return and/or, God help us, her fake dating. This is a huge change from even 6 months ago, when they all coughed up some copy like lemmings after she showed up on some inane morning program.
She blew her chance to become someone who stays in the mainstream. She really WAS done in 2011, in terms of potential for crossover to product endorsements, etc., she just hasn't gotten the memo yet (or she's simply refused to read it).
Someone else noted TLC maybe being happy now with 1mm viewers per episode. I think they might be, but that won't last for long. I don't have TLC and, if I did, wouldn't watch it, but take a look at their official FB, where people are complaining nonstop about all of the Dateline reruns that fill up their schedule day after day. They are OUT of original programming, and ultimately, K8 Plus K8 is not going to fill that hole. No one cares enough about her anymore, and even if they did, one show does not a network make. I see TLC reporting mega-losses this year (unless they manage to cook their books with "deferred charges" and the like), and if they don't turn the train around right quick, I think they may end up being reintegrated with Discovery or just killed outright. It's not K8 that brought them here, I think the Duggars have the honor of finally killing the goose that laid the golden "reality" eggs. But K8 surely helped.
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Can they also give themselves Cowardly Lion hairstyles or does that require additional dough?
"Now he is going out like a little Lamb due to him suffering severe losses, court sanctions and (most importantly) MISSING COURT DEADLINES TO FILE DOCUMENTS...."
Who is Philip Klein and what is his relationship to BV? I really don't feel like reading pages and pages of filed complaints and appeals! Why should he be put out of business...what does that have to do with everything BV did during his reign on Twitter?
@NOIP Im starting to realize more and more that the BV outings had nothing to do with the women on whatever blog the Kate fans say they were outed on.I've herd that Bullyville did go after this blog even though it doesn't even mention any private info about the fans.Im learning more and more that BV just wanted to silence Kate critics on the internet.So i guess the fans lied about that whole fan outings.
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From what I remember he did out the non-fans on the "other blog" after he closed it down.
P.J. said... 126 Shyla said... That does not explain why they gave Kate a new deck but we don't know the compensation package. If she's paid by deck, how do the kids get their 15%? 888888888888888888888888888888 But that's the beauty of it; they don't. It's the same as naming her as a "producer". It's a way to shelter money so that she gets an even bigger piece of the pie that's divided 9 ways. 85% for her and 8 shares of 15%. The more money they divert from the paycheck, the less legally is owed to the kids. ---------- http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/other-shows/about-our-shows/
"Disclaimer: Applicant agrees to pay all federal, state, and local taxes, including income, use or sales taxes or any other governmental charges imposed on prizes, including the value of any goods or services received and cash gifts, if any, given to me or received by me by reason of my participation in the program and I release and indemnify producer from any liability therefor. I also authorize producer to deduct or withhold any such taxes or charges that require a payment prior to delivery of said prizes, cash or gifts."
In addition, the IRS considers this income, and TLC is required to issue a 1099, which is also reported to the IRS. So, I would assume that this income would be included for the purposes of any calculations.
However, I don't believe that the Pennsylvania law requires that 15% of the total be allocated to the kids. My interpretation is that 15% of the kids' salaries ha to be put into trust. tHat is the
First of all, any improvements done on the house are considered to be increased me, with a 1099 issued for tax purposes. TLC would certainly want to take the deduction, and they are legally responsible to report the payments made for the improvements to the IRS.
Second day f all, I am not understanding why the Murt law is interpreted as meaning that the kids get 15% of all income received. I would presume that the kids have a specific salary stipulated in the contracts. If it was 15% of the total, then, if there was only e child, they would receive the full 15%, while the G kids divide 15%?
My understanding of the law is that 15% of the kid's salaries must be placed in trust--not 15% of the total income. This is what the law says:
"The employer shall transfer to the child performer trust account not less than 15% of: (A) total compensation prior to all taxes, deductions and commissions payable to the minor or the minor's parent or guardian under contract;"
This verbiage is virtually identical to the California Coogan law. Since both laws are concerning child performers, not specifically family reality shows, in which parents receive a salary, I don't think that The parents co one satin is used for calculating a percentage--it is a percentage of money earned by the child, as stipulated in a contract.
The reason that it never made sense that the 15% would be of the total paid to the family, is because it seems that this would be per child--not divided by the number of children. That would add up to more than 100%. And, it would be completely inequitable that if there were 4 children, they would be entitled to twice as much as 8 children, or, if there was one child, he/she would be entitled to 8 times more than the Gosselins.
So, sadly, I conclude that much less is required to be put away than we thought. Maybe Admin can weigh in with an interpretation.
allie tokarski @nothnxplz 46m46 minutes ago when kate gosselin was pregnant with sextuplets, including her own, she had over TWO THOUSAND BONES IN HER BODY
Was she pregnant with someone else's sextuplets? I know what she meant but the wording was amusing!
BAILEY M @itsbaileybongo 38m38 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 @TLC YAAAAY!! So happy you guys are back I've been watching since I was literally 10
Can one be illiterately 10, or unliterally 10? Would you then be nine or eleven?
Narcissists Can Now Bake Cookies Shaped Like Their Own Faces (or Their Pets)
Or Milo could bake cookies of Kate's face. She'd better order soon - it take a while to get them, as they are custom made. Also cost about $50 each! But for Milo, no price would be too high to have Kate cookies.
Yeah, Kate owes taxes on the goods and services she gets from the show, unless, of course, they make out a contract like Lane Furniture did. Lane paid all the taxes on all the new furniture Kate got for the new house. Kind of like Oprah paid for the taxes on things she gave away on her show. The contract is in Robert's book.
Ex Nurse, I guess I always figured Kate got 85% and the kids split 15% of the salary, the latter going straight into their individual trust accounts. So, they each get just under 2%. Wow. Before taxes, that translates to what? $750.00 per kid per episode? It's not exactly peanuts, but still...
Regarding Ahmed Mohamed ('clock boy' who has a name and deserves to be treated as an individual):
If it had actually looked like a bomb, the principal would’ve evacuated the school and called the bomb squad. Not kept it on his desk while he screamed at a child, waiting for cops to come interrogate him.
It was racist theater for the purpose of terrorizing a child for being brown.
Procedure is evacuation and bomb squad.
Any school administrated by a clown dumb enough to sit around with a thing they’re pretending to believe is a bomb has no business having children in its care.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch refers to this incident as an “‘extreme case’ of rising anti-Muslim feelings in the country.”
Also, the bit about how adult police officers violating a child’s rights, humiliating him in front of his entire school, and making blatantly racist statements while doing so doesn’t actually count because the child entrapped them by being so scary and brown is pretty good, too.
Good job, Americans! Way to think with a level head.
Meanwhile, we just lost an intelligent youth to another country.
OT, I was wandering around the internet and came across an article about the trapping of songbirds. I won't bore you with the details of the article, but I found this nugget in the comment section:
"10" Rubber Bilbo XXXX XXXXX 11/09/15 11:49am Welp, there’s the title for your next TLC show about appalling people: Budge (sic) Smugglers. Twenty-six episodes per season about a family of bickering idiots who like to trap and eat songbirds. Probably can get 3 to 5 years in the can before the first accusations of sexual abuse and incest come to light."
So, TLC, this is what you've become? I don't know why heads aren't rolling over there. What does it say about us as a society?
Narcissists Can Now Bake Cookies Shaped Like Their Own Faces (or Their Pets) ********* In one of the catalogs I've been buried under this Christmas shopping season, I saw a toaster with yes, plates made to burn your face into your toast.
In one of the catalogs I've been buried under this Christmas shopping season, I saw a toaster with yes, plates made to burn your face into your toast.
********* Wasn't there some person in Mexico who saw the image of Mary on a toasted tortilla? There was also one on a grilled cheese sandwich somewhere too. I think I'll leave facial food impressions to others, but there may just be a market for this among the true narcissists.
I added a scream grab to the post since I finally watched the hot minute interview.
I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but it was glaring to me when the girls were asking about the date, that Kate kept holding back and saying you'll have to watch!, and then wouldn't tell them a thing. Even on live TV she is a tease. That's very bad promotion . She should have picked one good or funny anecdote from the date to talk about, maybe even something that occurred after filming was done or something ABOUT filming, a fun story from the set, then say for MORE, watch! It's so amazing to me how terrible she is at promoting herself even with the pros desperately trying to help her talk about something interesting.
Kate didn't look that bad to me but most of the credit there goes to Today's hair and makeup team.
Oh hey look, in the screen grab she's waving her Lee Press on nails like the disabled reporter. She's making fun of him! Shame on her and Trump!
Wasn't there some person in Mexico who saw the image of Mary on a toasted tortilla? There was also one on a grilled cheese sandwich somewhere too. ******* Yes, the Grilled Cheesus.
Ulysses, it's not just an issue of whether the child's apparatus was a real bomb. It's an issue of a child who has chosen to make something to look exactly like a bomb and whether it was a hoax bomb. Now allegedly, the child insists that wasn't the intention, but even hoaxes need to be thoroughly examined even if you discover in short order it's not something that is going to detonate right there and then. Again, things could have been done better in that investigation process, but there is nothing wrong about investigating it in the first place. That's two separate issues that are getting blurred.
That's like saying it's okay for a child to bring in something that looks *just* a semi-automatic weapon to school made out of licorice as long as it's a "clock." I think any parent would be horrified if a school allowed a child to do that and just let that go. No one would say, but it's not a real gun that can fire. Same thing as as here.
Oh one other thing about the interview, sorry I'm three days late to the party. I forgot the exact wording, but as Kate started talking about the date she said something to the effect of it wasn't supposed to be this way....then she redirected herself. Darn it I cannot remember what it was she said. But whatever it was it really gave me pause because I thought.....wait are you talking about how this is all a set up put together at the last minute because Jeff M. quit?
I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but it was glaring to me when the girls were asking about the date, that Kate kept holding back and saying you'll have to watch!, and then wouldn't tell them a thing. Even on live TV she is a tease. That's very bad promotion ********** Hoda and KLG looked like "Really?". They were pulling teeth to get a half decent interview out of Kate and she teases them in their live interview? Gives them nothing? Uh, no, that's not how promotion works. Being forthcoming shows that your genuine and relatable, if not quite likable. Interviews are a give and take and Kate sat there and teased her show like the ladies were some sycophants on her Twitter line, and basically emphasized how mouthy, loud and ill-behaved her children are. Most mothers are in love with their children, and that's not possible with Kate, I'm afraid.
That's like saying it's okay for a child to bring in something that looks *just* a semi-automatic weapon to school made out of licorice as long as it's a "clock." I think any parent would be horrified if a school allowed a child to do that and just let that go. No one would say, but it's not a real gun that can fire. Same thing as as here. December 7, 2015 at 6:24 AM ******* You have to be living under a rock to not know and really get how sensitive schools are in this day and age. A 7-year old gets suspended for chewing of pieces of a Pop Tart so it looks like a gun, and these parents thought it fine to allow their son to take a homemade clock, all wired up, in a case, to school? Really, really poor judgement.
Take a look at this meme to get a sense of just how much this "clock" looked like an actual clock.
But whatever it was it really gave me pause because I thought.....wait are you talking about how this is all a set up put together at the last minute because Jeff M. quit? ********** Kate went well beyond that. KLG's semi-blase question about having her dates have to sign CAs was, imo, a very subtle way to let the viewers know that this sh*t is all for the cameras and not real. This isn't a divorced mom coming to terms with a failed marriage and ready to get back into the dating world. This is Kate Gosselin using anyone and everyone she can to generate viewers, appearances and articles that keep her rich and relevant.
My sense is that the "twists and turns" Kate alluded to in her interview will amount to nothing in particular. If TLC has packaged the dating episode to make it look like a man (Jeff) backed out at the last minute and they scrambled to find her another blind date, it will backfire. There's clear evidence she's known Jeff, it wasn't a blind date and they'd been linked socially/romantically (at least in a way that I've never conducted business) way before shooting that date in NYC.
Narcissists Can Now Bake Cookies Shaped Like Their Own Faces (or Their Pets) ********* In one of the catalogs I've been buried under this Christmas shopping season, I saw a toaster with yes, plates made to burn your face into your toast.
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TFW would need a 8 slice toaster then. She tried to grift a 8 or 12 slice toaster? Why not have 2 inexpensive 4 slice toasters? She has the counter space and the outlets.
Starting to wonder if the new deck was TLC's way of sticking to TFW.
In the past, TFW got X amount of dollars for Y amount of episodes. This time, TLC could have given TFW the same money (possibly less, since TFW is so much of a famewhore that she has no negotiation power), but included the deck as part of the compensation package.
It's still money out of TLC's pocket, but it's not as much as previously.
TFW has less money to spend on her personal journey of jackass-ery, which TLC can hear less about. The deck is not a liquid asset, so TFW can't turn it into spa money anytime soon. The deck has value, but since TFW's idea of the future ends at the tip of her nose, she wouldn't have the patience to enjoy the deck for now.
I am actually confused about how the new deck works. Isn't her kitchen at ground level? Which room(s) is the deck attached to? And if it's intended for entertaining, wouldn't it make more sense to have it attached to the kitchen? She already has a built-in outdoor BBQ, doesn't she? (Also paid for by TLC, of course.)
IIRC, Kate's property is graded such that the deck would be on the same level as the kitchen. Not totally sure tho. It would make sense to not have to walk downstairs to grill.
Hoda and KLG looked like "Really?". They were pulling teeth to get a half decent interview out of Kate and she teases them in their live interview? Gives them nothing? Uh, no, that's not how promotion works. Being forthcoming shows that your genuine and relatable, if not quite likable. ::::::
Isn't that what celebrities do when they're invited onto a talk show for a short interview about their upcoming...whatever, show a short clip and then say everyone will have to wait and see what happens? They're trying to build up interest to get viewers.
I really saw nothing wrong with that interview. Kate did better than usual, very few ummmmms. I don't like it when people start their sentences with "I mean" as if they're trying to explain what they were talking about in a previous sentence and Kate does that a lot, but then so do a lot of other people.
Isn't that what celebrities do when they're invited onto a talk show for a short interview about their upcoming...whatever, show a short clip and then say everyone will have to wait and see what happens? They're trying to build up interest to get viewers.
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No. Celebs tell a brief story about what's coming up on air. Obviously you don't give a spoiler alert.
But a fun story about how the kids said this funny thing about the guy, or the date and her camerman fond out they have a mutual interest in football and ended up setting a bro date which doesn't happen sans camera, I don't know. Frankly, make it up if you have to. But give them something. Then ya say, tune in for more. The girls obviously wanted to engage her and talk to her about this like a celeb doing normal promotion, but no dice. They gave her every opportunity, and it was met with dead air.
She went straight to--tune in!
It's like she's too stupid to understand the art of promotion. She has heard not to give out spoiler alerts but doesn't understand there is a happy medium there. Obviously you don't give away the ending. But you don't tell them nothing either.
On the bomb meme page, they end by saying authorities "may have went too far". The grammar/word usage really grates, but I agree with their sentiment. Once it was determined that it wasn't a bomb, it should have been treated seriously but with regard to the rules of law and evidence and common decency.
Looks like Kate did an interview with The Reading Eagle, her local paper.
http://tinyurl.com/zuaml2u
Fourth season of 'Kate Plus 8' to feature some twists and turns
Berks County's most famous reality mom will be back on television this week.
"Kate Plus 8" returns for a fourth season on TLC on Tuesday at 9 p.m., and Kate Gosselin herself promises a roller coaster ride of emotions and antics from her eight children, including 15-year old twins Mady and Cara and 11-year-old sextuplets Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah and Joel. And she even dips a toe back into the dating pool.
"It's been six single years, and I've been focusing on my kids during that time which keeps me busy to say the least," said Gosselin, who lives in Lower Heidelberg Township. "But this year I decided to take some time to see what it's like to be back out in the dating world. It's strange as there's some odd twists and turns that no one could predict."
And it gets even odder, she said.
"The weirdest part is that I have teenagers now who are just around the corner from being able to date as well," she said. "The conversations throughout this season are pretty surreal due to the strange parallels in our lives."
Parenting eight teens and tweens has its share of challenges, too, she said.
"I always heard that as your kids grow, the work goes from physical work - lifting babies - to mental and emotional work - relationships, greater responsibility and making decisions - and I would have sworn that nothing could have been harder than caring for eight kids three years old and under, but it has," she said.
Gosselin said that back in the day she also relied on local friends and volunteers to make it through the day.
"Thank you all again," she said. "But the biggest challenge is definitely having to constantly balance everyone's individual needs and wants fairly, while making sure that each child has enough of me, too. It's a real struggle that becomes an almost constant logistical game of 'Tetris.' I often describe my life as just that: a game of 'Tetris'!"
You'll see a lot of that balancing on the new season of "Kate Plus 8" as the family deals with trips and time at home.
"There were a lot of house projects that needed to be done, and the kids wanted to go to a beach, so somehow we crammed it all in and had a fun, loud, wild summer together," she said. "That was filled with lots of teen and preteen opinions. You know, it's our life as usual."
After stints on both "Dancing with the Stars" and "Celebrity Apprentice," Gosselin said she likes her life being so full and busy, but does like to relax now and then.
"My kids will tell you that if and when I do get to relax, I love to sleep," she said. "And all eight kids will sometimes pile into my bed and we'll watch a movie or something on TV together. That's some nice cozy relaxation that we all really enjoy, until the bickering and fighting starts over what to watch."
On the bomb meme page, they end by saying authorities "may have went too far". The grammar/word usage really grates, but I agree with their sentiment. Once it was determined that it wasn't a bomb, it should have been treated seriously but with regard to the rules of law and evidence and common decency.
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Yes, and that's where the lines are getting blurred.
His supporters seem to think that if you feel this should have been taken very seriously you condone how he was treated. That's two different things.
I want this young man's bomb-looking like device taken seriously. I support thoroughly investigating him and his family. However his rights should be protected just like anyone being questioned. I also think he and his family should take some responsibilty on his end, too, which they stubbornly refuse to do, and our POTUS backed them up, shockingly. This could have been a learning experience for all involved. Instead, he packed up his clock and left the country. That helps no one.
Gosselin said that back in the day she also relied on local friends and volunteers to make it through the day.
"Thank you all again," she said.
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I guess she got the memo that the interview she gave not too long ago in which she insisted she had no help during the baby years, was really shitty and disrespectful to everyone in the community who volunteered.
Gosselin said that back in the day she also relied on local friends and volunteers to make it through the day.
"Thank you all again," she said. "But the biggest challenge is definitely having to constantly balance everyone's individual needs and wants fairly, while making sure that each child has enough of me, too. It's a real struggle that becomes an almost constant logistical game of 'Tetris.' I often describe my life as just that: a game of 'Tetris'!" ******* Thanks, volunteers and family, but you really didn't do the heavy lifting. I'm doing that ALONE!!! ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!
No wonder Kate has perma-acrylics on her nails. Real nails would break, nay, tear to shreds, from the vigorous and non-stop patting on the back she does to herself!
Re: the Today interview. I agree Kate's verbal tics were far more in check, but she really needed to memorize a few cogent sentences to give the viewers at least a glimpse of what the new season has in store.
@Admin,i was reading an old article you posted about how a fan was stalking her favorite celebrity and the comments you made about what Kate fans would do if they ever got rejected by Kate.Im going to have disagree with you and say that i'd be more worry about Jon then Kate when it comes to her fans.The way they're so devoted to her they.If anyone remembers when Jon went to fight for custody of Hannah,this put the fans into an outrage,they went after him on twitter and harassed him on there and talked about how no judge would give him custody.Now imagine if Jon does get custody of 1 of his kids and this effects filming and maybe cancel the show.These fans would be out for blood for both Jon and if there would be a jury or judge that decides to give him custody.
Jamesvader1194 said... 188 @Admin,i was reading an old article you posted about how a fan was stalking her favorite celebrity and the comments you made about what Kate fans would do if they ever got rejected by Kate.Im going to have disagree with you and say that i'd be more worry about Jon then Kate when it comes to her fans ****** Well, I can't argue with you there! I don't think I've heard or read anyone of Kate's detractors say that they wish she were in a horrific accident and in a coma for 6 months, or that they'd blow up his car. Yikes!
TLC stinks said... 190 WTH. Reading Eagle just printed her PR. It was't an interview.
--------------------- Didn't she use the phrase "twists and turns" on her Today Show interview? Someone must have told her that's the designated verbiage for the new episodes. I wonder if she had it written on her hand.
Sigh. Let's remember that this was a 14 year old boy. His parents may have chosen to pack up and leave the country, but it was not his decision. And for all we know, this had more to do with an career opportunity for either parent than anything else. Would either of the Gosselin twins be in a position to pack up and leave the country? Let's keep some perspective on this.
And for other perspectives, it may be JMO but I do not think there will be much interest in Robert's book this time around. That ship has sailed.
"Twists and turns" lol. That was on her media days prep flash cards TLC made her. Hey, at least she's trying to prep instead of being lazy and just winging it.
Why do I keep picturing that wonderful film Game Change about Sarah Palin. They were prepping her for the debates and it was an uphill battle and they had made flash cards with buzzwords and talking points and kept instructing her to pivot back to her strong points when in doubt.
I picture WOody Harrleson yelling at his TV with Kate on, "Pivot! Pivot! YES!!!"
On a side note, twists and turns? It's your LIFE, not an M. Night Shyamalan film.
But a fun story about how the kids said this funny thing about the guy, or the date and her camerman fond out they have a mutual interest in football and ended up setting a bro date which doesn't happen sans camera, I don't know. Frankly, make it up if you have to. But give them something. Then ya say, tune in for more. The girls obviously wanted to engage her and talk to her about this like a celeb doing normal promotion, but no dice. They gave her every opportunity, and it was met with dead air. ::::::
Perfect example of seeing what we want to see. I didn't notice any dead air. I don't think Kate's that comfortable with live interviews. I don't think she can think on her feet, but of all the interviews I've seen, this was one of her better ones, IMO: no throwing Jon under the bus, no excessive cleavage, not sure if she did the "honestly..." thing, don't remember seeing that. She talked some about the date, saying there are twists and turns. Probably the best anyone is going to get out of her. As far as making something up that isn't even on the show just to get viewers? Not a good idea, again, IMO.
I just saw Hoda and KLG trying really hard to pull off the interview, being the pros that they are. I'm surprised there wasn't a handful of interviews done remotely while she was in NYC. Back in the day, doing a spot on The View would have been a foregone conclusion.
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And clearly you don't understand since you are incapable of understanding the basic concept that not all Middle Easterners are Muslim.
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Nope, you have to read the whole quote, the local also said this: "We’d see them leave where they’re raiding the apartment.”
He said they were in the neighborhood, THEN said, specifically at the site of the raid. He began broadly, then narrowed it. Perfectly reasonable way to explain it. It's both, they were in the neighborhood and at the site.
I'm not sure how he could get any clearer. They were in the exact same spot as the raid. He chose not to report it because people like you have convinced him that's racist. So well done, mission accomplished.
I'm well aware not all Middle Easterns are Muslim and you would have known that had you seen my comment a few weeks ago about how a lot of Syrians coming here are actually Christian.
Talk about creating a diversion that ties up authorities hands investigating "cool clocks". And it was at the suggestion of the leader of your country, no less.
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Yep that's what he tweeted all right. That's just classic Potus. Don't try to defuse the situation or give the benefit of the doubt. Make law enforcement look like idiots for responding to a very real looking BOMB. And make everyone else feel stupid for trying to keep the REST of the CHILDREN IN HIS CLASS SAFE.
Welcome to our POTUS. Gross.
The situation could have been a great example of how to handle what turned out to be "nothing" that caused minimum harm to all those involved most of all the innocent child. Instead, it got esculated into this thanks to POTUS, the family, and radicals. The us vs. them mentality is so darn infurating
That "clock" would have received the same attention no matter what colour the kid was, as it should have.
I wonder if Obama would have responded had it been an Jewish or Amish or Catholic kid.
Make law enforcement look like idiots for responding to a very real looking BOMB.
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Yeah, but it's so "cool". Inspiring, even. Where is it now? In the Smithsonian?
I'm open minded but not so much that my brains are falling out. That clock looks like a bomb. A totally cool bomb, dude.
Gawd.
I'm scratching my head til it bleeds.
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Me too, Auntie. Me too.
I'm open minded but not so much that my brains are falling out. That clock looks like a bomb. A totally cool bomb, dude.
Gawd.
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Total gaslighting.
Speaking of classic POTUS, I was rather angry about Obama addressing the 14 Americans shot dead like fish in a barrel in CA, while casually hunched over in a chair in the Oval.
This ain't no fireside chat, my friend.
Come on, man. 14 Americans are dead and 20-ish injured in what looks for all the world to be a terrorist attack, and you don't have the decency to show respect to the dead by standing up?
That really cheesed me.
Don't get me started on addressing the American whose head was lopped off in a beheading, then 7 minutes later appearing on a golf course with a huge smile on your face.
Ugh.
(sorry, rant over, but I'm glad I got that off my chest)
Geraldo got fired.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/geraldo-rivera-claims-wabcnew-york-fired-him-locked-him-out-of-studio/
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I think a large group of anybodys suddenly coming and going from a residence is worth a phone call.
Who knows what it's about, probably drugs or prostitution, or both. But in any case it needs to be investigated.
I don't care if it's women, men, white, not white. If it's sudden, unusual, not quite normal....it needs to be looked into. Nothing to do with racist or bigotry. IMO.
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Some years ago, in my little neighborhood, a young kid lived with his grandmother. Sadly, she got cancer and her ex-husband moved in to "help." After she passed away, the grandfather continued to live in the home and be the guardian of this young man. At the same time, he moved in his disabled brother. All was fine for awhile, but then the disabled brother/uncle was put into a convalescent home, and that meant the disability checks stopped coming in. Turns out grandpa was a ne-er do well (which is probably why the grandma divorced him), never held down a job for long, and the only income for the household was the Social Security payments the young man received. Wasn't enough naturally, to cover bills. The home slowly turned into a flop house and I believe it was also a drug pick -up place. I don't think the grandfather was selling drugs - but I think one of his relatives used the location as a pick up point. There were cars coming and going day and night. We called the police numerous times. We wrote down license plate numbers. Cops even came out at least twice and did a thorough search. Grandpa was arrested, the comings and goings continued until he was finally evicted for non-payment of rent. It was awful.
While some people might call the police just because they see a person who looks Muslim to them, I would still prefer that be the action they take rather than attacking a mosque, attacking an individual in person, or otherwise harassing someone because of their skin color or perceived religious affiliation. Fear can make people do despicable things. I hope all Americans will keep their hearts open as well as their eyes.
In the case of this recent horrible shooting, I am not sure there were any obvious indications to co-workers. From the reports I've read, it sounds like this man got along fairly well with his co-workers, was liked, and perhaps the only red flag (if you could call it that) was that he didn't bring his wife into the workplace to introduce her to his co-workers. That's a bit unusual but if you called the police to report that, I'm not sure they'd take any action.
There is evil in this world. We can let it control us, make us people who are intolerant, casually cruel, and bigoted. Or we can continue to take each day at a time, take the time to know a person before we judge them, take basic precautions, but remember that it is not a particular religion that makes one evil -- but extremists of any kind that are the real problem. Extremists come from all walks of life and all religions, and those are the dangerous ones.
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See something, say something. That sure worked out well for the muslim clock boy. The school caught national ridicule for sending him off with his bomb-looking clock, the president supported him and then invited him to the White House, then the kid goes with his family to Quatar, I believe, and now sued this country for millions of dollars. Oh yeah, after that the guy who observed the moving of many boxes into his neighbors house is now in trouble for being PC? Come on everybody, there is so much contradiction it can cut you in half.
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I believe the boy and his family are suing the school district, and the local police department - but they are not suing the United States of America. They are suing the school district and the police department in part because this boy was denied his right to have a parent present while being questioned. Also, the police quite quickly determined that the clock the boy made was not a bomb, and they did not call in the bomb squad, did not clear the school, or take other measures one would take upon suspecting a possible real bomb being present on the school grounds. They concluded that he had made a "hoax bomb" while he tried to explain that it was a clock. The school officials and the police badly mis-handled the entire situation, and that's why this boy and his family actually have a fairly decent lawsuit and will probably get a hefty settlement.
As to them moving to another country, why not if they were made to feel completely unwelcome in the United States?
If my child had made a clock from bits and pieces of things at home, took it to school to show his teacher, and then got questioned for hours and told he could not call me, his parent, I would blow a gasket. That is NOT RIGHT! There were several officers in the room with this young man, with no parent present. That is not right. I would be furious and I'd probably file a lawsuit against the school district and the police department. If you allow authorities to break the law, they must be held accountable.
Email interview with Robert regarding release of the original book.
Reality TV Scandals @RTVScandals · 25m25 minutes ago
Exclusive: Q&A With Robert Hoffman @gosselinbook re-released @KatePlusMy8 How She Fooled The World
http://www.realitytvscandals.com/2015/12/04/exclusive-qa-with-robert-hoffmanre-releases-kate-gosselin-how-she-fooled-the-world/ …
http://www.realitytvscandals.com/ Robert gave an interview to Amia...it's very interesting. He's back and has Garbus in his corner biting at the bit to get back to court for disclosures. So sue him Kate, see what happens. I dare ya!
Here's the Q&A with Robert:
Q. What made you re re release the first book, “Kate Gosselin, How She Fooled The World” knowing Kate put a copyright claim on the journals?
A. I’m not going to worry about what Kate Gosselin and her lawyers are going to do. It is my opinion that the Gosselin children have been irreparably harmed by their own mother and continue to be exploited and physically and emotionally abused to this day by their mother and it’s being covered up by a billion-dollar television network whose only interest in the Gosselin children is how much money they can generate in advertising dollars. It’s sick and twisted but the public can’t get enough apparently. I’m a big believer in ‘if you see something, say something’ and this is me speaking up once again on behalf of the children who can’t speak for themselves.
Q. Do you think Kate will have her attorneys pull the book?
A. I think the last thing in the world Kate Gosselin wants is to go through the excruciating discovery process of a lawsuit and have every detail of her life for the past 16 years put on display for the world to see. We on the other hand would love for that to happen. We have a lot of unfinished business with Ms. Gosselin in the inside of a courtroom in front of a judge and jury.
Q. What about TLC? Do you anticipate and legal action from them?
A. TLC has nothing to go to court with us about. All information used in this book was obtained absolutely legally. One of the most respected lawyers in the country if not the world is standing by waiting to finish what we started. I think the last ridiculous lawsuit Ms. Gosselin filed made her look foolish. She ended up running away from that suit with her tail between her legs. The next time she might not be so fortunate.
Q. Can you tell our readers what is different from the first book, Kate Gosselin, How She Fooled The World] and, “Kate Gosselin The Rise And Fall Of A Reality TV Queen”?
A. It you are at all interested in this story, then this is the version of the book you want to read. There is no paraphrasing this time around. You read Kate Gosselin’s words verbatim; Her emails; Her private journal where she details the beating of her babies in diapers; Her exchanges with her handlers, lawyers and her television executives.
This is a raw, unedited, gritty, unsanitized account of what transpired during the tabloid explosion years of Jon & Kate Plus Ei8ht with Dave Barry-like snarky commentary from the author who followed the Gosselin’s every move, sometimes 24/7 while covering the story for US Weekly. It’s for the reader who wants to dive into this mess and really get their hands dirty. You’ll feel like you’re there on the scene discovering new details and breaking tabloid news.
This version of the book is big. It contains 78,800 more words than the edited version. There are so many details that have yet to be discovered and reported on in the mainstream media. It’s not for the faint of heart
@kate is a twit I appreciate that robert is back finally after being silent for this whole year.Can't wait for what the die hard fans will say "grabs popcorn".However does anyone believe that re releasing the book will be enough for most people to stop watching?I hope but i just don't know what else Hoffman can do?
just don't know what else Hoffman can do?
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I think TLC needs to glom together unused footage with stuff that we've already shaken our heads about, do new interviews with people in the know and make a series of specials on what those kids had to live with. No pay to Kate, but what would have been paid out be donated to a PA child advocacy program.
People might watch. It might be must see TV.
Make DVDs!
Go on publicity tours. Make signs to wave at Wal-Mart!
Put Robert's book on store shelves to promote the TLC special of Life with Mommy, Really.
I realize it will never happen, so no need to tell me so. :)
However does anyone believe that re releasing the book will be enough for most people to stop watching?I hope but i just don't know what else Hoffman can do? 13
I also doubt that it will stop the fanz from watching, but glad the original book is back out there and I finally got a copy.
Come on, man. 14 Americans are dead and 20-ish injured in what looks for all the world to be a terrorist attack, and you don't have the decency to show respect to the dead by standing up?
That really cheesed me.
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But don't you know...terrorist groups/cells are under control and contained in this country, according to the POTUS? There is nothing to worry about.
No, what the local said is he saw a large group of men specifically coming and going to that family's single residence family home. That is absolutely a red flag sign of drugs, prostitution, or other illegal activity, hands down. Any cop will tell you so and I frequently read that in police reports (usually it's drugs).
Or maybe it's a freaking birthday party every day, I do not know, but make the damn phone call and 14 lives might have been saved.
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Exactly. And if you see an unusually high number of people going into the home on a regular basis but never leaving you might have a John Wayne Gacy situation going on there.
You make the phone call. I am sick and tired of pussyfooting around and walking on egg shells because I am afraid that someone will be offended or hurt, racial profiling be darned. You just may save one life or countless lives by picking up that phone and letting law enforcement do what they gotta do. Enough is enough.
I think TLC needs to glom together unused footage with stuff that we've already shaken our heads about, do new interviews with people in the know and make a series of specials on what those kids had to live with. No pay to Kate, but what would have been paid out be donated to a PA child advocacy program. 14
If only!
I also doubt that it will stop the fanz from watching, but glad the original book is back out there and I finally got a copy.
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I doubt it, too, but it sounds like Robert is good and pi$$ed off at Kate's latest exploitation binge. Good for Robert for saying Kate and her attorneys (giggle) be darned. I'd love to see her tied up in depositions with Martin Garbus firing the questions at her. I bet the string of "ums" would extend to California and back. She would be toast and she knows it.
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Thanks for the interview with RH. It's great how he is still championing the G kids.Sad to think their lives in his opinion are no better, despite their age and circumstances. Why on earth Kate retains custody and control is a mystery.
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Or we can continue to take each day at a time, take the time to know a person before we judge them
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Actually, it's the investigators' job to do character assessments. They're trained for it.
Or we can continue to take each day at a time, take the time to know a person before we judge them
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Actually, it's the investigators' job to do character assessments. They're trained for it.
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I have to agree with Auntie Ann. We should not be on our own trying to judge whether someone is a concern. Leave that to the experts. We also need to have a little more patience and understanding when things go wrong in such investigations. They're doing the best they can and under a tremendous amount of pressure. I would suggest if someone gets caught up in something like that, something like clock boy for instance, that they also do their part to not "judge" the authorities too harshly who are under tremendous pressure to get it right, expectations they cannot possibly live up to as they are only human and these things aren't precise.
The homeland security web site has lots of FAQs about what is something to contact authorities about and what you shouldn't worry yourself over. Truly, everyone should just follow that and nothing else.
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Can't wait for what the die hard fans will say "grabs popcorn".
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What die-hard fans? She's down to about 3.
If my child had made a clock from bits and pieces of things at home, took it to school to show his teacher, and then got questioned for hours and told he could not call me, his parent, I would blow a gasket. That is NOT RIGHT!
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I would blow a gasket too over that, but it wasn't just a child who made a clock that looks like an alarm clock. It looked like a bomb.
They had every right to question him for hours. Real bomb or fake one, both are extremely concerning. There have been enough school shooting incidents to take ANY weapon or imitation of a weapon seriously whether it turns out to just be a clock.
What die-hard fans? She's down to about 3.
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Yep, plus the teenies who are still of the middle school mentality. They seem to gravitate to her, have the attention span of a bag of hair, and flit off into the little Beliebers world. And, of course, that fan who tweets her morning platitudes/graphics, expanding to evening ones as well, then to weekends. It wouldn't surprise me if she does lunch break platitudes as well, with cutie food salutations. I have never seen Kate toss her a crumb for her efforts.
Sheeple are being used, but I'm beginning to think that some have seen the light. When will they start asking her if she will be live or dead tweeting during the episodes? Where is Milo and her daily countdown until the new season begins? I wonder if she made a special Kate calendar (her version of an Advent calendar) and she opens a window each each day until the season airs.
That is not right. I would be furious and I'd probably file a lawsuit against the school district and the police department.
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I haven't had time to totally read up on this, just some snippets here and there. What law did the police department/school district break that would be the basis for a lawsuit?
Police generally have immunity in such lawsuits anyway. They need to be free to conduct investigations without fear of litigation when it turns out to be nothing. Overcoming that immunity is going to be clock boy's first big hurdle.
Blowing In The Wind (25);
"Where is Milo and her daily countdown until the new season begins?"
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LOL!! She is the Twitter Jester!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
This should be fun 2watch! #EndOfDateLesson from #Kateplus8 :) New season! Starts Dec.8th on @TLC http://youtube.com/watch?v=U_KyNLehBoo&sns=tw … … @kateplusmy8
admin (27):
"Police generally have immunity in such lawsuits anyway. They need to be free to conduct investigations without fear of litigation when it turns out to be nothing. Overcoming that immunity is going to be clock boy's first big hurdle."
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Yes, and I would believe that they have every right to err on the side of caution without thinking about a retaliation lawsuit.
I would love to know what it is about Kate that is such a turn-on for Milo? Is it her rocking body? Her voice? Her laugh? Her intelligence? The Surfer Girl look? Her magnetic personality? Or is it all of those things wrapped up into that desirable hot young body?
Why is Gladys so enamored with her that she wants to do the slap and tickle with her? They say that every pot has a lid, and if Milo is the pot, exactly why is she so obsessed with the lid?
Then again, why is UGGS so attracted to African American actors/comedians? It's always fun to see which one is her flavor of the month as she begs for shout-outs and meet and greets. At least, admin, you don't have to worry about her running off with Anderson!
Yes, and I would believe that they have every right to err on the side of caution without thinking about a retaliation lawsuit.
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Yes, they have to have that protection. You usually have to establish there was some kind of intentional unreasonable misconduct on their part to overcome that presumption of immunity. Mere negligence is not enough.
I just cannot imagine how any suit is going to prove such a thing after seeing a photo of that bomb. I mean, clock.
A doofus comes out and asks:
Gee Whiz @GeeWhiz__ 12h12 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Just saw commercial for your show. I'll be watching on Tuesday. Will you be tweeting during the show?
...and Kate answers:
Kate GosselinVerified account
@Kateplusmy8
@GeeWhiz__ YES MA’AM! We can’t wait to watch return of #KatePlus8 with you!!!!!!! Tuesday at 9pm on @TLC #SeeYouThere
Not without reading him his Miranda rights they don't.
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But that's what we call in the law harmless error. They ultimately released him and did not charge him. Therefore, there will be no trial and no statements made can be used against him in court.
That's not enough for a suit.
Now if they were going to charge the young man, then we might actually have a point with that. But they didn't, it's over. People go on and on about their rights, but unless the courts actually follow through on trying to use such statements against you, it's no harm no foul. And even if it WERE a trial, an attorney would simply get any statement he made without being read his rights thrown out. Again, no harm no foul. No lawsuit there. To put it more plainly, it's not really that you have a right to hear your rights. It's that you have a right not to have any statement you made used against you if they DIDN'T read you your rights. That said, I don't see a problem with the cops apologizing for that to help smooth things over and as a gesture of good faith as well as for not bringing his parents down to speak with him sooner, but a 15 million dollar lawsuit for something that never developed is ridiculous. There's two sides to every story, and the cops will get their turn to respond as the lawsuit plays out. They're not saying much now, which allows clock boy to control the narrative.
I still can't rule out this was a setup, pure and simple.
TFMJG blocked me on Twitter!! Without any warning or have a nice day!!! All I did was tweet her the link to Robert's interview.
I really have a feeling that Christmas is coming early for those of us who don't like child abusers and Karma has one foot inside Katie's door.
What a flurry of desperate tweets from La Katie tonight! Starting with this one:
Kate GosselinVerified account @Kateplusmy8 1h1 hour ago
Hey guys!We’ve been busy!Took the kids out west 4 Thanksgiving #SansCameras &now back promoting return of r show #KatePlus8 !!!!
What’s up?
#SansCameras? Is that also #SansPaycheckandHelpers? She was quite manic, I wonder if TLC lit a fire under her ass. She claims (not for the first time) not to have even started Xmas shopping. Really? What would Xmas be without Kate recycling her manic panic? I can't believe anyone really falls for this anymore. She had at least 25 tweeters who were paying attention and fawning just at the right moment---what are the odds that this was staged and TLC paid for 'em? I don't doubt it for a minute.
The kids? Wasn't she spotted by three different tweeters with JUST Mady and Cara going out west at the airport?
I'm betting that was their bribe payout for all that filming. A trip to LA and DWTS. The younger kids haven't quite realized they have her over a barrel.
I still can't rule out this was a setup, pure and simple.
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Kind of like going to McDonalds and deliberately spilling hot coffee?
" I wonder if she made a special Kate calendar (her version of an Advent calendar) and she opens a window each each day until the season airs."
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I'd be up for designing that one. Open a window, and there's a close-up of the inflatables, yearning to be set free. Another window would feature the crotch shot of Kate in the athletic supporter, standing next to Mary Hart. Then there's always the pic of her from the rear, with a big splat of (pee?) on her behind. Imagine the fun one could have creating those "windows."
I don't know how many die-hard sheeple she has left. Of course, there is Milo, the always-hard sheeple. If you can believe tweets, there has been some in-fighting going on within the flock. I guess that's better than in-breeding.
Google "city of Irving demand letter" and you can read about the events of the day the boy was detained for several hours with up to 7 school officials and officers in the room, denied access to his parents, and told he needed to sign a confession re a "hoax bomb" or be expelled. And that was before he was taken in handcuffs to the police station. He is 14.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 36
The kids? Wasn't she spotted by three different tweeters with JUST Mady and Cara going out west at the airport?
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No, at least a couple said they saw "the family." (Which I'm sure included Steve and at least a couple of aides.) It's interesting how she says "took the kids out west 4 Thanksgiving #SansCameras"---as if to say, had they been home for a family Thanksgiving, there would necessarily have been cameras? But what about all those missed memories?
TLC had jumped the shark on this nonsensical "reality" show back in 2011, when they quite logically cancelled her. I don't know who's running the place now, but they clearly aren't playing with a full deck. TLC's chief exec was the highest-paid guy in media last year. Somehow, I don't think we're gonna see a repeat of that, despite the seemingly endless iterations of the same-old, same-old on K8 Plus K8.
Sad but True, "nonsensical" is about as good of a word to describe this as any.
So she's promoting her show? Which sheeple will be in the Walmart parking lot this time around? Carlene? Denise? Gladys? Leigh? Lauren? Brunson? Get out that bullhorn and video cam!
What happened to Kate's extensive media tour? Was she only on one show?
Then there is this poor soul...
Palma Ryckebusch
@RyckebuschPalma
@celeb_babyscoop @Kateplusmy8 bummer I missed it!!! 😞
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 36
The kids? Wasn't she spotted by three different tweeters with JUST Mady and Cara going out west at the airport?
I'm betting that was their bribe payout for all that filming. A trip to LA and DWTS. The younger kids haven't quite realized they have her over a barrel.
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I'm with Sad But True on this one. The tweets mentioned "family" or "kids". The idea that it was just the twins or that DWTS was involved was pure speculation. I don't believe she was seen at DWTS or that she tweeted about being there.
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I had a similar problem with her supposedly saying that dating was a waste of time because she could spend the time with her kids. She actually said she'd rather spend the time sleeping! Someone commented that claiming she wanted to be with her kids would have been better than claiming she wanted to sleep, and that was followed by comments about her saying she wanted to be with her kids. She didn't say that! Someone thought she should have, but she didn't!
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I like that. It has a nice ring to it. LOL
I wonder if they were visiting the "close, family friend, who flew in to babysit while she did CA?
So, she announced "#SansCameras" Like she doesn't read here. I think the tweet frenzy is deflection due to the return of Robert Hoffman and the book. When has she ever promoted the show?
From Radar:
The former Here Comes Honey Boo Boo star told Radar she was resigned to the fact that she was treated differently than other scandal-plagued reality families. "It is what it is. "They are bringing Kate Plus 8 and they told me she was the worst person to work for and they were never going to bring her back," she claimed. "I can't believe TLC is bringing her back.
"#SansCameras" -- good grief, TFW thinks she's a Jackie O
or something. I am fascinated by this woman's fascination
with herself.
P.J. (#44), I think you're right. The sudden Chatty Cathy
emerged to trying to deflect attention from Robert's book.
"C'mon, girlfriends, let's chitchat! Tweet me live on Tuesday!
It'll, be, like, SO much fun!" Where was this BFF when
Thanksgiving came and went without a word? And don't
let anyone try to say she put her phone away while she was
with her kids. I think that's when she's on it the most.
Oh, and that quote from TFW (#46) was made up by me --
not something she actually said!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 46
"#SansCameras" -- good grief, TFW thinks she's a Jackie O
or something. I am fascinated by this woman's fascination
with herself.
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But, wait. I'm so confused! Kate's life is on camera, so how does this happen? Is it even possible?
I really need Stephen Hawking to explain this to me!
String Theory?
A Black Hole?
Aliens?
Tucker's Mom (#48), I'd say something about "A Wrinkle In Time,"
but TFW might think I'm talking about her forehead and double up
on the botox injections.
If a narcissist eats turkey and there's no one there to film it, is the bird still alive?
The former Here Comes Honey Boo Boo star told Radar she was resigned to the fact that she was treated differently than other scandal-plagued reality families. "It is what it is. "They are bringing Kate Plus 8 and they told me she was the worst person to work for and they were never going to bring her back," she claimed. "I can't believe TLC is bringing her back.
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Honey boo boo child makes a fair point. In other words, wtf!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 50
The former Here Comes Honey Boo Boo star told Radar she was resigned to the fact that she was treated differently than other scandal-plagued reality families. "It is what it is. "They are bringing Kate Plus 8 and they told me she was the worst person to work for and they were never going to bring her back," she claimed. "I can't believe TLC is bringing her back.
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Honey boo boo child makes a fair point. In other words, wtf!
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I wonder how exactly this all played out. They were definately done with her. They really threw her under the bus in her last series episode. How the hell did she worm her way back? Did they say do some other shows and if we hear you were not a problem to work with, we will give you another chance? I don't get it, especially with the mediocre ratings.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 49
Tucker's Mom (#48), I'd say something about "A Wrinkle In Time,"
but TFW might think I'm talking about her forehead and double up
on the botox injections.
If a narcissist eats turkey and there's no one there to film it, is the bird still alive?
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Maybe they ate Schrodinger's turkey for Thanksgiving!
"#sanscameras" probably means that she'd already bribed the kids (at least the twins) with the trip and couldn't get TLC to foot the bill. I still think she went to the finale of DWTS but didn't get any face time (or good seats). Hell, she might have been relegated to the crowd at The Palms. Only speculation of course but the picture of the twins in the team whomever sweatshirts is very suspect. She never does anything just because.
I'm just going through the week's California Court of Appeal cases and saw this case about a family who tried to sue the cops. Just reminded me of our discussion and how hard it is to win when you sue cops even when cops did something wrong, especially since this one involves something similar, cops holding children. A summary:
"Police officers who allegedly took custody of plaintiff’s children without reasonable cause or a court order were entitled to qualified immunity from plaintiff’s 42 U.S.C. Sec. 1983 claim for violation of plaintiff’s Fourteenth Amendment right to familial association, and the children’s Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable seizure. Officers were not incompetent in believing that they were legally authorized to act in reliance on the Department of Human Services’ determination that the children were in imminent danger. Even if they were mistaken in their belief that they could remove the children at the direction of DHS without court authorization, their actions were objectively reasonable under the circumstances."
Maybe Milo threatened to grab Carlene and go to to Silver Springs MD(?) for a little visit with Discovery if they didn't give Kate more face time on TV. That would make me rethink banishing Kate from my line-up, how about you?
I wonder how exactly this all played out. They were definately done with her. They really threw her under the bus in her last series episode. How the hell did she worm her way back? Did they say do some other shows and if we hear you were not a problem to work with, we will give you another chance? I don't get it, especially with the mediocre ratings.
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It's a mystery. How and why did TLC not only bring Kate back, but positively shower her with expensive things?
I wonder if she's got some hurty dirt on someone(s).
Spin all you want, but this is not right, in any legal or moral sense. If this had been my child, we would have been furious and probably retained legal counsel. I completely understand how this family chose to leave the country too. 7 hours of questioning without access to parents or a lawyer. At 14. A nerdy geek kid. Someone reached way too far. I will not speak to the lawsuit since I know nothing about it.
Now back to scrolling. Oh, out west for Thanksgiving #SansCameras? Someone had to be paying for part of that. Her wallet is glued shut.
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It's a mystery. How and why did TLC not only bring Kate back, but positively shower her with expensive things?
I wonder if she's got some hurty dirt on someone(s).
I've always that Kate was doing special favors ( if you know what I mean) to someone at the top. This is Kate so I wouldn't put it past her.
You would really leave the country over this? Wow. It seems to me this might be able to be solved without people packing up their blocks and leaving the country if everyone involved eats some humble pie and apologizes to the young man. An apology can sometimes work wonders. And heaven forbid maybe clock boy's family could apologize about a clock that looks exactly. like. a. bomb. Even if it's an apology that says although we certainly never intended to have our son construct anything resembling a weapon, we understand now that it sure looked that way to others and we understand why alarm bells went off. I believe they might have been so caught up in the construction they didn't think about what it looked like, I guess. But they need to be reasonable and understand that when you google the photo it looks no different than a terrorist bomb. Life is about give and take and I do not believe this situation had to escalate like this.
I'm disappointed that this impressionable young man is learning that when something goes wrong, escalate it to the next level. Instead of when something goes wrong, is there a reasonable solution we can all come to that makes all parties happy.
And like I said, there's two sides to every story and only clock boy has been telling the story so far.
Now back to scrolling. Oh, out west for Thanksgiving #SansCameras? Someone had to be paying for part of that. Her wallet is glued shut.
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There's a lot of people sharing the link to Robert's interview on various FB pages.
Say TLC airs the episodes they have in the can and doesn't resume filming next year. If she got paid $40,000 per episode x the 8 episodes ready to go, that's $320,000 minus taxes, etc. So she's set for another year? What's everyone's best guess as to how long the money she has squirreled away will last IF she's no longer on TV?
Say TLC airs the episodes they have in the can and doesn't resume filming next year. If she got paid $40,000 per episode x the 8 episodes ready to go, that's $320,000 minus taxes, etc. So she's set for another year? What's everyone's best guess as to how long the money she has squirreled away will last IF she's no longer on TV?
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Plus her hefty paycheck from CA. And she could save a lot of that and watch it grow. I think she's good forever as long as she continues to save.
I have to admit I've been shocked that she's kept that house, the private school, and the upper middle class lifestyle all this time. Better people have not been able to maintain what she has under similar paychecks coming in.
You misunderstand. I said I understand how they might leave, but without knowing the details I suspect the parent or parents decided to take a job offer in another country. And that makes some sense to me. And I also think referring to this young man as 'clock boy' is disrespectful. Again,having raised three teens to adulthood, there are parts of this story that make me really angry.
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And I also think referring to this young man as 'clock boy' is disrespectful. Again,having raised three teens to adulthood, there are parts of this story that make me really angry.
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Everyone's calling him clock boy even people who support him. I totally understand a parent identifying with the idea of their child being detained and how scary that is. Like I said, I think there needs to be some give and take. I think this young man needs to take some responsibility. He's not a baby, he's fourteen. When you make something that looks just like a bomb, people are going to panic. When people are panicking, sometimes they're not rational. It certainly does not mean his rights should be violated, but it never would have happened in the first place had he not constructed the clock that way. There are a dozen ways to construct a clock that don't look like that. Sometimes there's value in trying to take a step back and understand the other side's perspective without going on the defensive immediately, and that goes for both clock boy and the authorities.
I really don't see anything from that side of things acknowledging, hey, I understand why that bomb-clock freaked folks out a little, especially in light of recent events and the country as on edge as we have been since 9-11. That's called maturity.
We will have to agree to disagree then. Our global viewpoints are very different; other than K8, we just do not see things the same way. And that's fine, no need to belabor this further.
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Agreed OC! It's funny/interesting how people with all sorts of different viewpoints on the world still pretty much see Kate the same.
On that, the sky really is blue at least to all of us.
So on that subject, seriously, what went down to get TLC in bed with her again? Honey Boo Boo asks the right question here. Even filler, even December, they certainly filmed the shit out of the kids this summer. Built an expensive deck, went on vacay, and probably picked up some of the tab for Thanksgivng in the west. And the biotch can barely tweet about her upcoming 'season'. So glad no one wanted to give her face time at DWTS tho.
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 61
Plus her hefty paycheck from CA. And she could save a lot of that and watch it grow. I think she's good forever as long as she continues to save.
I have to admit I've been shocked that she's kept that house, the private school, and the upper middle class lifestyle all this time. Better people have not been able to maintain what she has under similar paychecks coming in.
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How much was she paid for CA? She must really view her childhood as deprived if she's able to hoard her money like that. However, if she doesn't remain on TV, I think she'll start using some of the money in an attempt to remain in the public eye . . another self-published book, filming the kids on her own and putting it on a subscription-only youtube site. She might even make some bad investments in order to capitalize on the money she has left.
I don't want her bankrupt--if she can maintain the lifestyle until the kids are out of school and in college, fine. But she needs to support them for a change.
Honey Boo Boo asks the right question here.
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Something we never thought we'd say.
Honey Boo Boo, the voice of reason.
You know in a weird way I wonder if her own stupidity has actually helped her to hang onto her money so well.
I doubt she knows the first thing about how to manage money and I doubt she finds much interest in logging onto Vanguard and analyzing her investments. What she would know, however, is to hire a financial advisor/manager. If she did that, maybe through Steve's contacts, and got a good one and just left them alone to do their thing? Well then, being financially stable actually makes sense.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59
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Thank you.
The POTUS personally kisses your rear end and you leave and sue for millions?
Adios.
So glad no one wanted to give her face time at DWTS tho.
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And you know that pissed her off!! If she had just played nice, concentrated on what Tony tried to teach her and put in some effort, the twins could have at least had a backstage tour, she might have gotten a few seconds of face time and DWTS might have been interested in the twins being on the show ala Bindi. But there's no way she's going to be able to market the twins for appearances on other shows/networks..
I could see Stevie boy as having a big hand with how her investments are handled. I'm sure she has him handling all that for her.
I wonder if TFW taking the kids away for Thanksgiving was TFW
punishing Jon in some way. Maybe those Montana people
offered to put all 9 of them up for free. But airfare for 9 would
still be a fortune. Yes, it's certainly uncharacteristic for TFW
to spend money on her children, based on all we've seen,
unless there's a dollar dangling.
Its the same with the duggars.TLC also refuses to get rid of them as well as Kate.You can't tell me TLC won't try to give the duggar girls more specials after these couple.Have to agree with June,why does TLC even bother returning these shows?
I've been thinking that TFW may have taken a pay cut in order to get more episodes and all the perks (deck, trips, etc.). It just doesn't make sense that TLC would continue to pay her $40K and give her all that shit. We all know that she'd do the show for practically nothing because she's addicted to fame.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 68
Honey Boo Boo asks the right question here.
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Something we never thought we'd say.
Honey Boo Boo, the voice of reason.
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It was actually her mother, June Shannon, who said it. I didn't think it was the type of thing a child would say. Though the comments still apply. Who would've thunk Mama June was the voice of reason?
http://radaronline.com/photos/duggars-sex-scandal-mama-june-shannon-slams-crazy-tlc-firing-her-josh-sisters-tv/photo/1232798/
Jon and Kate made a small fortune at the many speaking engagements they had, charging something like $25K per venue, plus expenses. Then they were selling their family photos at $20 a pop. She's been comped with clothing, all new appliances and furniture and a ton of other 'stuff' from various companies. Multiple Blessings sold 523,000 copies in 2009 alone. She had to have a made a cool two or three million from that. And according to her she said the he college funds are taken care of. Then there is the income from various appearances like DWTS, CA and of course good old TLC.
So she's probably sitting pretty as far as finances go especially if Steve and his other wife are advising her about investments.
She's done well for someone whose only talents are selling her kids and whining.
Oh and btw she's still on the All American Speakers website if anyone wants booking info on her.
" Education: The Reading Hospital and Medical Center, Occupation: Television personality, author, former nurse"
lol!
The quote is from June. She is pissed at TLC still. She still wants to film, though.
P.J. said... 44
When has she ever promoted the show?
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A week before it airs. Just like clockwork she sucks up to her fans and then puts them back on hold after the 'specials' are over.
But I agree with you, she's probably mad as hell at Hoffman again so there's some deflect, deflect, deflect going on there too.
I notice her fee for "speaking" is between $20,000. and $30,000.
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Anonymous said... 80
I notice her fee for "speaking" is between $20,000. and $30,000.
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To tell people how hard it is to raise kids and say "um".
#Sonofabitch.
Tucker's Mom said...
I really need Stephen Hawking to explain this to me!
String Theory?
A Black Hole?
Aliens?
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I think it would take a quantum leap to figure it out. (see what I did there? LOL)
A study about bullshit, if anyone is interested.
http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2015/12/pseudo-profound-b-s-psychology
N.E. Psychologist said... 83
A study about bullshit, if anyone is interested.
http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2015/12/pseudo-profound-b-s-psychology
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Thanks, N.E. I read this piece last week. Somewhere along the line I heard this phrase and it's so true.
Bullshit Baffles Brains.
I really don't see anything from that side of things acknowledging, hey, I understand why that bomb-clock freaked folks out a little, especially in light of recent events and the country as on edge as we have been since 9-11. That's called maturity.
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I think the mature thing to do might have been for his dad or mother to phone the school and let them know exactly what his son had built, send a photo, and ask permission to bring it to school so as not to raise any alarm. It would have saved a lot of trouble for everyone.
Susan1956 said... 34
TFMJG blocked me on Twitter!! Without any warning or have a nice day!!! All I did was tweet her the link to Robert's interview.
I really have a feeling that Christmas is coming early for those of us who don't like child abusers and Karma has one foot inside Katie's door.
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Welcome to the club Susan1956! She has blocked a couple of my twitter handles. But she can still see a tweet that you post if you go to Twitter Tunnel and look up her twitter and reply on a post that is to her and add her name on it. I have for a long time replied on Milo's postings because I know TFW follows it/he/she.
So on that subject, seriously, what went down to get TLC in bed with her again? Honey Boo Boo asks the right question here. Even filler, even December, they certainly filmed the shit out of the kids this summer. Built an expensive deck, went on vacay, and probably picked up some of the tab for Thanksgivng in the west. And the biotch can barely tweet about her upcoming 'season'. So glad no one wanted to give her face time at DWTS tho.
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I sometimes wonder if she's holding something over their head, like she has some "dirt" on them that they don't want exposed. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but it's just a gut feeling that something isn't on the up and up there.
So glad to hear from Robert! And he still has Garbus backing him up.
Insane & Good at the same time. Wow. Don't you know she is CHAPPED to unbelief? I have only read bits and parts of my Kindle copy and it is hard to read. I can't imagine reading worse things in this raw unedited book. I might go and take a peek on amazon for a sample.
Katie's cookbook is now $2.82. There is still time to order for Christmas. I looked inside the book and she must have a deal with Campbell's soup. I also noted her recipe for HOMEMADE noodles....3 eggs and 3 cups of flour. Wow....she really knows her way around eggs and flour.
Maybe Milo threatened to grab Carlene and go to to Silver Springs MD(?) for a little visit with Discovery if they didn't give Kate more face time on TV. That would make me rethink banishing Kate from my line-up, how about you?
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LOL! Yep. That would do it. Throw Denise in there, along with Ms Uggs and they'll give Kate as much air time as she wants!
This is incredible!
Our beloved St. Tony of the Ballroom said that when he was dancing with Leah Remini, he and she were followed by Scientologists. Even following him without her. They were doing everything they could to get dirt on Leah big time.
They had been calling and harassing Leah's sister just right after Leah left the cult. Then on the first day of Leah's book signing, someone hacked into Leah's sister's social media and replaced her avatar with a picture of a man's private part. The timing was just to much to be a coincidence
Her wallet is glued shut.
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Too bad the same can't be said for her mouth.
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/03/church-of-scientology-tailed-dwts-pro-1
After reading Leah's book, I cannot comprehend how Scientology has tax free religion status. Do many people in that organization are just evil.
Is anyone here going to bite the bullet, so to say, and record K+8 to get a list of the sponsors? Why have the anti Duggars been so much more successful at boycotting sponsors than those trying to boycott K+8? I think Kate's "anti lovers" are much lazier than the Duggar's. I personally think her views will only be around 1M.
redbird said... 86
Welcome to the club Susan1956! She has blocked a couple of my twitter handles. But she can still see a tweet that you post if you go to Twitter Tunnel and look up her twitter and reply on a post that is to her and add her name on it. I have for a long time replied on Milo's postings because I know TFW follows it/he/she.
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It's a great club Redbird! I only have the 1 twitter account right now. I've been going to Milo's twitter on the computer and tweeting them both as well as TLC. Did you see the meme I made out of a picture of Kate on Milo's timeline? If you find it and like it, feel free to share it with others. Does Milo block people--I'm wondering if she will eventually block me?
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Is anyone here going to bite the bullet, so to say, and record K+8 to get a list of the sponsors? Why have the anti Duggars been so much more successful at boycotting sponsors than those trying to boycott K+8? I think Kate's "anti lovers" are much lazier than the Duggar's. I personally think her views will only be around 1M.
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I was thinking of watching it with the sound off in order to make a list of the sponsors--I'd rather read admin's recaps than listen to Cruella talk out both sides of her mouth.
As to whether the anti-Kate camp is lazier than the anti-Duggar camp, I do periodically write different sponsors re: whether or not they will continue to advertise on Kate's show and last year was able to convince a local children's hospital not to advertise on the show. I haven't received a lot of firm responses and tend to think that Kate is enough of a D-lister with only very short seasons, doesn't do many, if any, speaking and is not so much in one's face as the Duggars with their holier than thou attitude. Sorry, don't know how to explain it any better than that. Plus, Robert hasn't gotten any exposure on the national talk shows. I'm hoping both Robert and his attorney do a media tour this time.
Speaking=speaking engagements.
@susan1956 Rumor has it that Milo blocks anyone who tries to get her to meet with Kate and arrange a date for her to go.She never blocks haters but she got upset when someone brought up her meeting Kate and blocked them.
@susan1956 Rumor has it that Milo blocks anyone who tries to get her to meet with Kate and arrange a date for her to go.She never blocks haters but she got upset when someone brought up her meeting Kate and blocked them.
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There were multiple tweets to her from several non-fans about meeting Kate. It wasn't just one person. Has she blocked all of them? She still seems to read their tweets because she comments on what they have tweeted.
#99 - I believe that rumor. Seems Milo has gone out of her way to avoid actually meeting Kate. That was my first hint that Milo is not one woman living in the South who is a Kate warrior. I still believe it's someone who thinks Kate Gosselin is a huge joke and is poking at her with each slobbering tweet. I think it's all pure sarcasm.
Maybe it's Robert. LOL.
@High sodium content,another thing you have to take into consideration(and this is something i've noticed),is with child abuse,its that they've been people who try to excuse Kate's abuse by saying she spanks her kids or discipline her kids by spanking.Which some believe is not abuse.Whereas with the duggars,there is no excuse for molesting a child,both duggars and their fans tried to down play his abuse by saying he was only a teenager.But we all know thats no excuse for molesting children.This is just my opinion because i feel this is one of the reasons why the public doesn't have an outrage over Kate like the duggars.But hopefully with Robert's re release,he'll get offered interviews,but who knows.
OT-Acorn streaming recommendation.
If you like saga-type stories, those that follow a family or friends through many years, I'd recommend "A Dance to the Music of Time." It follows a group of boys through university in England in the 20s through 50 years. It's quite well done.
There were multiple tweets to her from several non-fans about meeting Kate. It wasn't just one person. Has she blocked all of them? She still seems to read their tweets because she comments on what they have tweeted.
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If I recall, it wasn't just one time, but the non-fans egged her on, knowing that she gets upset. She lost her cool in a way that I have never seen her do before...she was in a frenzy over it. If they want to work Milo into a dither, pestering her about meeting Kate is the way to do it!
Over And Out (#104), didn't Gladys tweet at some point to the
people egging her on to meet TFW, "It's NONE OF YOUR
BUSINESS?" The very words which she can not possibly
comprehend when it comes to her non-stop grilling of her
true love on anything from bathing rituals to her kids'
underwear?
Sue_Buddy, thanks for the reminder about Acorn. I've been on a reading binge and once that fades, Acorn is next. I'm a big British TV fan.
Over And Out (#104), didn't Gladys tweet at some point to the
people egging her on to meet TFW, "It's NONE OF YOUR
BUSINESS?" The very words which she can not possibly
comprehend when it comes to her non-stop grilling of her
true love on anything from bathing rituals to her kids'
underwear?
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Yes, and all of the poking and jabbing and just kidding around that the non-fans do to Gladys doesn't seem to bother her much at all, but just the suggestion of her meeting Kate, and the non-fans tweeting TLC with the idea to air a meet and greet between Gladys and Kate was enough to really rattle her. I wonder why.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/06/kate-gosselin-tell-all-book-release-tlc-special/
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About re-releasing the book, more allegations that Jon wants money from Kate, deadbeat dad, in cahoots with Robert to split profits, Jon uses his kids to extort money from Kate and wants alimony (hasn't that horse left the barn like years ago?) blah blah blah.
Same old crap about happy happy filming so Kate can pay the bills.
The "close family source" also puts forth the same lame defense that since Robert never lived in the compound, he has no idea what went on.
Not like he didn't interview scads of scads of people, and not that most of what's in the book is Kate's own words.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/06/kate-gosselin-tell-all-book-release-tlc-special/
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This story is from June 2014.
NJGal51 said... 110
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/06/kate-gosselin-tell-all-book-release-tlc-special/
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This story is from June 2014.
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Oops, sorry. It reads like it's current.
Susan1956, I tried to find the meme you were talking about and I can't find it. Can you provide a link? thanks.
It does read like it's a current story Tucker's Mom. I just happened to notice the date on it. I wonder if there will be a similar story from TFW's camp or if she's just hoping that it will go away.
In other news, how many think that she'll start her tweeting frenzy tonight to promote the show? She'd better get going or the Twitter bots won't be able to do their job and tweet how excited they are and how they can't believe how much the kids have grown (or how great/young she looks after having 8 kids).
@Tucker's mom but regardless,this will be the accuses at Robert and some reason Jon is involved,if and whenever this re released story gets put on a tabloid article.Another thing to is that,if this book is lies,why doesn't Kate just put this whole thing to rest and sue Robert for slander?Also why would someone be so stupid as to accuse someone of child abuse and risk getting sued by that person for slander?The Kate defenders logic makes no sense.
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@Tucker's mom but regardless,this will be the accuses at Robert and some reason Jon is involved,if and whenever this re released story gets put on a tabloid article.Another thing to is that,if this book is lies,why doesn't Kate just put this whole thing to rest and sue Robert for slander?Also why would someone be so stupid as to accuse someone of child abuse and risk getting sued by that person for slander?The Kate defenders logic makes no sense.
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In Robert's recent interview, he seems defiant and it would be hysterical if Kate did indeed run from her own lawsuit with her tail between her legs.
I found it interesting that Robert alleges with certainty that the abuse continues to this day. I mean, we know Kate's back to filming the crap out of the kids again, but I wonder if she's still hitting and punishing them.
Also, whatever spending Thanksgiving "out west" means, even without cameras, I highly doubt she flew them across the country without some personal motive.
Adm, delete if not allowed. Here is the link.. The meme is on the bottom right under photos and videos. Milo has the same picture on her timeline with some platitude about watching the show and it sparked me to look up how to make a meme.
https://twitter.com/Susan66207
Didn't Kate claim that when she did DWTS a friend from out west watched the kids?
TLC Stinks (#117), I think it was from when she did Celebrity
Apprentice, that 2 women from Montana stayed with the kids.
TFW said they were either sisters, or like sisters to the G kids --
I don't remember which.
TLC stinks said... 117
Didn't Kate claim that when she did DWTS a friend from out west watched the kids?
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That was during CA. JON stayed at the manse with the kids when she did DWTS, at least during the early weeks.
Thanks for the link, Susan1956 and Admin too!
TLC stinks, the "old family friend whatever" were from Montana. I always thought that was strange because when she was doing DWTS, we never had the state of Montana on our radar.
Even though I am not in the house, I wholeheartedly believe that TFW still hits, slaps, curses, threatens, bribes, screams, leaves the kids with young babysitters, demeans, belittles those kids and still treats them like dirt in reference to their father. The boys have the worst of it and especially C. She maybe might not be able to get by with it so much with the twins because they figured it out. I believe she still does it to the girls and boys. They will figure it out pretty soon.
They will be 12 in 5 months, which means the twins will be 16 next year and only less than 2 years until the twins can legally write a book. Would be something if a book they wrote about their mother dropped on Amazon at 12:01 the day of their 18th birthday! hahaha
Once an abuser, always abuser.
This is in my opinion only.
Total speculation here, but could TFW have gone out west for
some cosmetic enhancements? I didn't watch the Today interview,
but did anyone notice anything that might've been "freshened up?"
Not to be confused with "happied up," which involves beating
your young children. Just wondering if maybe she had a
procedure done, and wanted to recuperate away from home.
This is my TLC theory. We figure Kate will get about a million viewers for each episode. Specials on the Duggar girls would probably be a little more. TV is in a tough position these days. People watch in so many different ways now with Hulu, Netflix, etc. I think the executive thinks a million viewers is great when compared to the risk of a new show. No one seems to have the patience and money to nurture a new show and make it work.
That does not explain why they gave Kate a new deck but we don't know the compensation package. If she's paid by deck, how do the kids get their 15%?
Shyla said... 123
This is my TLC theory. We figure Kate will get about a million viewers for each episode. Specials on the Duggar girls would probably be a little more. TV is in a tough position these days. People watch in so many different ways now with Hulu, Netflix, etc. I think the executive thinks a million viewers is great when compared to the risk of a new show. No one seems to have the patience and money to nurture a new show and make it work.
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We've speculated about this before. Cable is hurting. Too many channels to compete with and now with streaming, there's a plethora of quality programming that's worth the time to watch.
TLC must be more than happy to get around 1 million viewers per episode, based on the fact that Kate is getting multiple-episode seasons back to back.
I don't know why they don't consider her show back in their lineup. Clearly, it's no longer cancelled.
Tucker's Mom said...
I don't know why they don't consider her show back in their lineup. Clearly, it's no longer cancelled.
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Because it's filler. They are in a position to keep her off balance. They're calling the shots and it's payback for the days when she called the shots. Keep her guessing. How cheap can they go? I'd say they're playing her like a fine tuned fiddle. They know they can offer next to nothing and she'll still jump at the chance. They're maintaining their profit margin. TLC is #winning!
Shyla said...
That does not explain why they gave Kate a new deck but we don't know the compensation package. If she's paid by deck, how do the kids get their 15%?
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But that's the beauty of it; they don't. It's the same as naming her as a "producer". It's a way to shelter money so that she gets an even bigger piece of the pie that's divided 9 ways. 85% for her and 8 shares of 15%. The more money they divert from the paycheck, the less legally is owed to the kids.
redbird said... 120
Thanks for the link, Susan1956 and Admin too!
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You're welcome redbird. I just picked up a couple followers on twitter. Is one of them you?
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Tucker's Mom said... 124
I don't know why they don't consider her show back in their lineup. Clearly, it's no longer cancelled.
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Although TLC is filming Kate and the children again, I think that in their own sly way TLC is also keeping their distance. I think a term that fits is plausible deniabilty--the TLC execs must be a little concerned because if Robert's book gets enough publicity, they could face some tough questions as what they know, have seen, etc.
Tucker's Mom (#124), your post made me think about TLC's
strange relationship with TFW. It's almost like they're sheepish
about the fact that she's still on their lineup. On Divorce Court,
they sometimes talk about a woman who is a guy's "side piece" --
his relationship outside of marriage, that he's ashamed to admit
he keeps being involved with. I think TFW is TLC's side piece.
Susan1956 said...
I think a term that fits is plausible deniabilty
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Does that mean that when they cancelled her it was a conscious uncoupling? LOL
TLC seems to be hurting these days--none of their shows get high ratings. Jon and Kate, 19 Kids, and The Little Couple, and a few others used to average 2-3 million viewers per show, but now they seem content to settle for 1 million on any show. It's interesting that they didn't film Thanksgiving, and will not (from what was reported by Kate on the Today Show) film Christmas. If TLC was really committed to making K+8 a regular show, wouldn't they use every opportunity to film while the kids are out of school? Instead, they seem wary, waiting to see how the ratings turn out before committing to more filming. Of course, Kate doesn't see it that way. She seems to think they will be going back to the way it used to be, filming constantly and her making millions per year.
People wonder why TLC took her back, and I wonder if perhaps she told them she was broke. She was out of money, they couldn't find anyone else to film them, she couldn't possibly go back to a normal job, the kids would lose their house and their school, and how would that look to the public if TLC left them high and dry? It could be a combination of pity and PR for TLC. No matter if Kate still had money left, she has never had a problem lying and manipulating to get what she wants. But it doesn't look like she makes all that much from filming now, considering how huge her expenses are. Only 10 episodes aired in the last 18 months, and at 40K each (minus the kids' 15% and taxes), she wouldn't have enough to cover the house and the kids' tuition and all the other expenses for long. She'd want to step up the game. We'll see how far TLC is willing to go.
I'd rather chew tin foil than watch an episode of Kate Plus 8, but I will certainly be watching how the ratings turn out. I really do think that this is the season when ratings are going to drop below the 1 million mark--and stay there.
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Tucker's Mom (#124), your post made me think about TLC's
strange relationship with TFW. It's almost like they're sheepish
about the fact that she's still on their lineup. On Divorce Court,
they sometimes talk about a woman who is a guy's "side piece" --
his relationship outside of marriage, that he's ashamed to admit
he keeps being involved with. I think TFW is TLC's side piece.
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So would TFW also be Steve's side piece?
I think TFW is TLC's side piece.
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Well, I always thought she was a real pistol.
I think TFW is TLC's side piece. 328
Yes, and filler as Susan1956 said.
I still don't get the money TLC spends on her house though.
Since this blog was one McGibney tried to get shut down through vicious lies and criminal harassment; I thought this might be of interest to those of you he targeted.
He picked on the wrong person (as we all predicted he would) and that put an end to his King of The Internet dreams:
" James McGibney (who we don’t like) came into the world like a Lion with a bunch of fast and furious filings of some frivolous lawsuits. Now he is going out like a little Lamb due to him suffering severe losses, court sanctions and (most importantly) MISSING COURT DEADLINES TO FILE DOCUMENTS...."
http://www.viaviewfiles.net/uncategorized/help-us-put-philip-klein-out-of-business/
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The released Gosselin book is now tracked on Novel rank.
http://www.novelrank.com/asin/B018V1AW2A
Ingrid (#135), thanks for that link about the book.
Has Gladys mentioned it yet? She never seems to miss an
opportunity to bash Robert and Jon, whom she dubbed the
"wimpy boys." Or did she finally realize her comments only
bring unwanted attention to the book?
Tucker's Mom (#124), your post made me think about TLC's
strange relationship with TFW. It's almost like they're sheepish
about the fact that she's still on their lineup. On Divorce Court,
they sometimes talk about a woman who is a guy's "side piece" --
his relationship outside of marriage, that he's ashamed to admit
he keeps being involved with. I think TFW is TLC's side piece.
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Side piece, that's perfect.
She puts them in the green from time to time so it's worth it to them, but they're not exactly proud of it. It's almost like they begrudge that it still makes financial sense to keep her along. Like the 22 year old son you feel like you should probably kick out of the house but at the same time you like that he cooks and cleans for you and says I love you Mom.
Kate, for her part, grovels to this in this odd relationship.
Total speculation here, but could TFW have gone out west for
some cosmetic enhancements?
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Sure, a little nip tuck.
On another note it's odd the way she always says "out west" like it's the 19th century. I don't usually hear people refer to it that way. It's the West Coast, California coast, or people refer to it by state, California/Oregon/Colorado/whatever.
I guess it's just obnoxiously vague about where she is, which she loves.
Rhymes with Wirch said... 133
I still don't get the money TLC spends on her house though. house though.
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It might be cheaper if the lumber company, etc. donated the materials in exchange for plugs/being named in the credits. Remember how many companies provided furnishings, etc. when the Duggars 'built' their new house. And Kate may be happy to take less of a salary now vs. the increased profit when she does downsize/sell the house.
@NOIP Im starting to realize more and more that the BV outings had nothing to do with the women on whatever blog the Kate fans say they were outed on.I've herd that Bullyville did go after this blog even though it doesn't even mention any private info about the fans.Im learning more and more that BV just wanted to silence Kate critics on the internet.So i guess the fans lied about that whole fan outings.Funny enough i did see a comment on viaview files gave a shout out to the admin on here about how BV was scare cause he found out she's a lawyer.
Since this blog was one McGibney tried to get shut down through vicious lies and criminal harassment; I thought this might be of interest to those of you he targeted.
He picked on the wrong person (as we all predicted he would) and that put an end to his King of The Internet dreams:
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I've been looking at that blog since it began and I can't figure out the players in the whole thing, but it seems like he is getting his just desserts. The lawsuits can be really confusing as to who is suing whom, but the bottom line is that BV isn't the "hero" and knight in shining armor that Kate made him out to be. Is she still following him?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 136
Ingrid (#135), thanks for that link about the book.
Has Gladys mentioned it yet?
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She will once she sees it while reading here. *waving* at Milo.
Because it's filler. They are in a position to keep her off balance. They're calling the shots and it's payback for the days when she called the shots. Keep her guessing.
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I'm betting it's a legal thing too. They're treating her as an as-needed contract employee and want to be able to cut her loose whenever they feel like without having some big complicated contract that locks them into 13 episodes or whatever. I see them doing this with a lot of families, little people included.
P.J. said... 125
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Because it's filler. They are in a position to keep her off balance. They're calling the shots and it's payback for the days when she called the shots. Keep her guessing. How cheap can they go? I'd say they're playing her like a fine tuned fiddle. They know they can offer next to nothing and she'll still jump at the chance. They're maintaining their profit margin. TLC is #winning!
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I think you're dead right about this. Kate in 2015 is nowhere near the phenomenon of Kate 2009. TLC is way behind the 8-ball in terms of the new TV paradigm: People paying for what THEY choose to watch and not what TLC chooses to make. Not only are cable packages on the wane, I suspect TLC is on top of the networks being shaved off what people are willing to pay for. I predict huge losses for this network sooner rather than later. The rapidity with which people are switching over to streaming TV (which TLC appears in no shape to counter in terms of original programming) is staggering.
It's pretty noticeable how adrift Kate is now. She got her "moment" on the Kathie Lee and Hoda show this week; but outside of E!Online, I saw NO other mainstream tab (ROL, Daily Mail, Access Hollywood, Extra!) bother to pick up the story about her show's return and/or, God help us, her fake dating. This is a huge change from even 6 months ago, when they all coughed up some copy like lemmings after she showed up on some inane morning program.
She blew her chance to become someone who stays in the mainstream. She really WAS done in 2011, in terms of potential for crossover to product endorsements, etc., she just hasn't gotten the memo yet (or she's simply refused to read it).
Someone else noted TLC maybe being happy now with 1mm viewers per episode. I think they might be, but that won't last for long. I don't have TLC and, if I did, wouldn't watch it, but take a look at their official FB, where people are complaining nonstop about all of the Dateline reruns that fill up their schedule day after day. They are OUT of original programming, and ultimately, K8 Plus K8 is not going to fill that hole. No one cares enough about her anymore, and even if they did, one show does not a network make. I see TLC reporting mega-losses this year (unless they manage to cook their books with "deferred charges" and the like), and if they don't turn the train around right quick, I think they may end up being reintegrated with Discovery or just killed outright. It's not K8 that brought them here, I think the Duggars have the honor of finally killing the goose that laid the golden "reality" eggs. But K8 surely helped.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/71791/narcissists-can-now-bake-cookies-shaped-their-own-faces-or-their-pets
Narcissists Can Now Bake Cookies Shaped Like Their Own Faces (or Their Pets)
I thought this was perfect for Kate.
Narcissists Can Now Bake Cookies Shaped Like Their Own Faces (or Their Pets)
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Can they also give themselves Cowardly Lion hairstyles or does that require additional dough?
"Now he is going out like a little Lamb due to him suffering severe losses, court sanctions and (most importantly) MISSING COURT DEADLINES TO FILE DOCUMENTS...."
http://www.viaviewfiles.net/uncategorized/help-us-put-philip-klein-out-of-business/" (post 134).
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Who is Philip Klein and what is his relationship to BV? I really don't feel like reading pages and pages of filed complaints and appeals! Why should he be put out of business...what does that have to do with everything BV did during his reign on Twitter?
I don't seem to be able to access the above site. An error message comes up saying the site is down. Anyone else?
@NOIP Im starting to realize more and more that the BV outings had nothing to do with the women on whatever blog the Kate fans say they were outed on.I've herd that Bullyville did go after this blog even though it doesn't even mention any private info about the fans.Im learning more and more that BV just wanted to silence Kate critics on the internet.So i guess the fans lied about that whole fan outings.
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From what I remember he did out the non-fans on the "other blog" after he closed it down.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 146
Can they also give themselves Cowardly Lion hairstyles or does that require additional dough?
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Sure they can. The $ for the additional dough can be taken out of the kids' 15%.
P.J. said... 126
Shyla said... That does not explain why they gave Kate a new deck but we don't know the compensation package. If she's paid by deck, how do the kids get their 15%? 888888888888888888888888888888 But that's the beauty of it; they don't. It's the same as naming her as a "producer". It's a way to shelter money so that she gets an even bigger piece of the pie that's divided 9 ways. 85% for her and 8 shares of 15%. The more money they divert from the paycheck, the less legally is owed to the kids.
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http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/other-shows/about-our-shows/
"Disclaimer: Applicant agrees to pay all federal, state, and local taxes, including income, use or sales taxes or any other governmental charges imposed on prizes, including the value of any goods or services received and cash gifts, if any, given to me or received by me by reason of my participation in the program and I release and indemnify producer from any liability therefor. I also authorize producer to deduct or withhold any such taxes or charges that require a payment prior to delivery of said prizes, cash or gifts."
In addition, the IRS considers this income, and TLC is required to issue a 1099, which is also reported to the IRS. So, I would assume that this income would be included for the purposes of any calculations.
However, I don't believe that the Pennsylvania law requires that 15% of the total be allocated to the kids. My interpretation is that 15% of the kids' salaries ha to be put into trust. tHat is the
First of all, any improvements done on the house are considered to be increased me, with a 1099 issued for tax purposes. TLC would certainly want to take the deduction, and they are legally responsible to report the payments made for the improvements to the IRS.
Second day f all, I am not understanding why the Murt law is interpreted as meaning that the kids get 15% of all income received. I would presume that the kids have a specific salary stipulated in the contracts. If it was 15% of the total, then, if there was only e child, they would receive the full 15%, while the G kids divide 15%?
My understanding of the law is that 15% of the kid's salaries must be placed in trust--not 15% of the total income. This is what the law says:
"The employer shall transfer to the child performer trust account not less than 15% of: (A) total compensation prior to all taxes, deductions and commissions payable to the minor
or the minor's parent or guardian under contract;"
This verbiage is virtually identical to the California Coogan law. Since both laws are concerning child performers, not specifically family reality shows, in which parents receive a salary, I don't think that The parents co one satin is used for calculating a percentage--it is a percentage of money earned by the child, as stipulated in a contract.
The reason that it never made sense that the 15% would be of the total paid to the family, is because it seems that this would be per child--not divided by the number of children. That would add up to more than 100%. And, it would be completely inequitable that if there were 4 children, they would be entitled to twice as much as 8 children, or, if there was one child, he/she would be entitled to 8 times more than the Gosselins.
So, sadly, I conclude that much less is required to be put away than we thought. Maybe Admin can weigh in with an interpretation.
(Leslie)
Does anybody know if Kate did any other tv show while she was in NY with The Today Show. Usually she hits up a few? Thanks!
Yes, Susan1956.
P.J. LOL!
Gwyneth has Goopy, so TFW would be now known as Goofy.
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I don't seem to be able to access the above site. An error message comes up saying the site is down. Anyone else?
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Viaview site? If that doesn't work, go here and then on the left side, click on the most recent posting, the Klein one. It works for me.
http://www.viaviewfiles.net/tag/bv-files/
Ex-nurse -- if there is confusion about the 15 percent law, why not just e-mail Rep Murt and ask him? There is a contact form on his website.
allie tokarski @nothnxplz 46m46 minutes ago
when kate gosselin was pregnant with sextuplets, including her own, she had over TWO THOUSAND BONES IN HER BODY
Was she pregnant with someone else's sextuplets? I know what she meant but the wording was amusing!
BAILEY M @itsbaileybongo 38m38 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC YAAAAY!! So happy you guys are back I've been watching since I was literally 10
Can one be illiterately 10, or unliterally 10? Would you then be nine or eleven?
From what I remember he did out the non-fans on the "other blog" after he closed it down. 148
He did indeed.
ncgirl said... 145
http://mentalfloss.com/article/71791/narcissists-can-now-bake-cookies-shaped-their-own-faces-or-their-pets
Narcissists Can Now Bake Cookies Shaped Like Their Own Faces (or Their Pets)
Or Milo could bake cookies of Kate's face. She'd better order soon - it take a while to get them, as they are custom made. Also cost about $50 each! But for Milo, no price would be too high to have Kate cookies.
Yeah, Kate owes taxes on the goods and services she gets from the show, unless, of course, they make out a contract like Lane Furniture did. Lane paid all the taxes on all the new furniture Kate got for the new house. Kind of like Oprah paid for the taxes on things she gave away on her show. The contract is in Robert's book.
Ex Nurse, I guess I always figured Kate got 85% and the kids split 15% of the salary, the latter going straight into their individual trust accounts. So, they each get just under 2%. Wow. Before taxes, that translates to what? $750.00 per kid per episode? It's not exactly peanuts, but still...
Regarding Ahmed Mohamed ('clock boy' who has a name and deserves to be treated as an individual):
If it had actually looked like a bomb, the principal would’ve evacuated the school and called the bomb squad. Not kept it on his desk while he screamed at a child, waiting for cops to come interrogate him.
It was racist theater for the purpose of terrorizing a child for being brown.
Procedure is evacuation and bomb squad.
Any school administrated by a clown dumb enough to sit around with a thing they’re pretending to believe is a bomb has no business having children in its care.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch refers to this incident as an “‘extreme case’ of rising anti-Muslim feelings in the country.”
Also, the bit about how adult police officers violating a child’s rights, humiliating him in front of his entire school, and making blatantly racist statements while doing so doesn’t actually count because the child entrapped them by being so scary and brown is pretty good, too.
Good job, Americans! Way to think with a level head.
Meanwhile, we just lost an intelligent youth to another country.
OT, I was wandering around the internet and came across an article about the trapping of songbirds. I won't bore you with the details of the article, but I found this nugget in the comment section:
"10" Rubber Bilbo
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11/09/15 11:49am
Welp, there’s the title for your next TLC show about appalling people: Budge (sic) Smugglers. Twenty-six episodes per season about a family of bickering idiots who like to trap and eat songbirds. Probably can get 3 to 5 years in the can before the first accusations of sexual abuse and incest come to light."
So, TLC, this is what you've become? I don't know why heads aren't rolling over there. What does it say about us as a society?
ncgirl said... 145
http://mentalfloss.com/article/71791/narcissists-can-now-bake-cookies-shaped-their-own-faces-or-their-pets
Narcissists Can Now Bake Cookies Shaped Like Their Own Faces (or Their Pets)
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In one of the catalogs I've been buried under this Christmas shopping season, I saw a toaster with yes, plates made to burn your face into your toast.
In one of the catalogs I've been buried under this Christmas shopping season, I saw a toaster with yes, plates made to burn your face into your toast.
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Wasn't there some person in Mexico who saw the image of Mary on a toasted tortilla? There was also one on a grilled cheese sandwich somewhere too. I think I'll leave facial food impressions to others, but there may just be a market for this among the true narcissists.
I added a scream grab to the post since I finally watched the hot minute interview.
I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but it was glaring to me when the girls were asking about the date, that Kate kept holding back and saying you'll have to watch!, and then wouldn't tell them a thing. Even on live TV she is a tease. That's very bad promotion . She should have picked one good or funny anecdote from the date to talk about, maybe even something that occurred after filming was done or something ABOUT filming, a fun story from the set, then say for MORE, watch! It's so amazing to me how terrible she is at promoting herself even with the pros desperately trying to help her talk about something interesting.
Kate didn't look that bad to me but most of the credit there goes to Today's hair and makeup team.
Oh hey look, in the screen grab she's waving her Lee Press on nails like the disabled reporter. She's making fun of him! Shame on her and Trump!
Wasn't there some person in Mexico who saw the image of Mary on a toasted tortilla? There was also one on a grilled cheese sandwich somewhere too.
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Yes, the Grilled Cheesus.
Ulysses, it's not just an issue of whether the child's apparatus was a real bomb. It's an issue of a child who has chosen to make something to look exactly like a bomb and whether it was a hoax bomb. Now allegedly, the child insists that wasn't the intention, but even hoaxes need to be thoroughly examined even if you discover in short order it's not something that is going to detonate right there and then. Again, things could have been done better in that investigation process, but there is nothing wrong about investigating it in the first place. That's two separate issues that are getting blurred.
That's like saying it's okay for a child to bring in something that looks *just* a semi-automatic weapon to school made out of licorice as long as it's a "clock." I think any parent would be horrified if a school allowed a child to do that and just let that go. No one would say, but it's not a real gun that can fire. Same thing as as here.
Oh one other thing about the interview, sorry I'm three days late to the party. I forgot the exact wording, but as Kate started talking about the date she said something to the effect of it wasn't supposed to be this way....then she redirected herself. Darn it I cannot remember what it was she said. But whatever it was it really gave me pause because I thought.....wait are you talking about how this is all a set up put together at the last minute because Jeff M. quit?
I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but it was glaring to me when the girls were asking about the date, that Kate kept holding back and saying you'll have to watch!, and then wouldn't tell them a thing. Even on live TV she is a tease. That's very bad promotion
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Hoda and KLG looked like "Really?". They were pulling teeth to get a half decent interview out of Kate and she teases them in their live interview? Gives them nothing?
Uh, no, that's not how promotion works. Being forthcoming shows that your genuine and relatable, if not quite likable.
Interviews are a give and take and Kate sat there and teased her show like the ladies were some sycophants on her Twitter line, and basically emphasized how mouthy, loud and ill-behaved her children are.
Most mothers are in love with their children, and that's not possible with Kate, I'm afraid.
That's like saying it's okay for a child to bring in something that looks *just* a semi-automatic weapon to school made out of licorice as long as it's a "clock." I think any parent would be horrified if a school allowed a child to do that and just let that go. No one would say, but it's not a real gun that can fire. Same thing as as here.
December 7, 2015 at 6:24 AM
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You have to be living under a rock to not know and really get how sensitive schools are in this day and age.
A 7-year old gets suspended for chewing of pieces of a Pop Tart so it looks like a gun, and these parents thought it fine to allow their son to take a homemade clock, all wired up, in a case, to school?
Really, really poor judgement.
Take a look at this meme to get a sense of just how much this "clock" looked like an actual clock.
But whatever it was it really gave me pause because I thought.....wait are you talking about how this is all a set up put together at the last minute because Jeff M. quit?
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Kate went well beyond that. KLG's semi-blase question about having her dates have to sign CAs was, imo, a very subtle way to let the viewers know that this sh*t is all for the cameras and not real.
This isn't a divorced mom coming to terms with a failed marriage and ready to get back into the dating world. This is Kate Gosselin using anyone and everyone she can to generate viewers, appearances and articles that keep her rich and relevant.
After all, her life is on tv. Just ask her.
My sense is that the "twists and turns" Kate alluded to in her interview will amount to nothing in particular.
If TLC has packaged the dating episode to make it look like a man (Jeff) backed out at the last minute and they scrambled to find her another blind date, it will backfire.
There's clear evidence she's known Jeff, it wasn't a blind date and they'd been linked socially/romantically (at least in a way that I've never conducted business) way before shooting that date in NYC.
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ncgirl said... 145
http://mentalfloss.com/article/71791/narcissists-can-now-bake-cookies-shaped-their-own-faces-or-their-pets
Narcissists Can Now Bake Cookies Shaped Like Their Own Faces (or Their Pets)
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In one of the catalogs I've been buried under this Christmas shopping season, I saw a toaster with yes, plates made to burn your face into your toast.
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TFW would need a 8 slice toaster then. She tried to grift a 8 or 12 slice toaster? Why not have 2 inexpensive 4 slice toasters? She has the counter space and the outlets.
Starting to wonder if the new deck was TLC's way of sticking to TFW.
In the past, TFW got X amount of dollars for Y amount of episodes. This time, TLC could have given TFW the same money (possibly less, since TFW is so much of a famewhore that she has no negotiation power), but included the deck as part of the compensation package.
It's still money out of TLC's pocket, but it's not as much as previously.
TFW has less money to spend on her personal journey of jackass-ery, which TLC can hear less about. The deck is not a liquid asset, so TFW can't turn it into spa money anytime soon. The deck has value, but since TFW's idea of the future ends at the tip of her nose, she wouldn't have the patience to enjoy the deck for now.
Sideline Observer (#171), I think "Personal
Journey of Jackassery" would make a fantastic
title for TFW's autobiography!
I am actually confused about how the new deck works. Isn't her kitchen at ground level? Which room(s) is the deck attached to? And if it's intended for entertaining, wouldn't it make more sense to have it attached to the kitchen? She already has a built-in outdoor BBQ, doesn't she? (Also paid for by TLC, of course.)
I added a scream grab to the post since I finally watched the hot minute interview.
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Best typo ever!
Her kitchen is not at ground level. The property slopes.
With all those home improvements, the county needs to do a reappraisal for taxes.
IIRC, Kate's property is graded such that the deck would be on the same level as the kitchen. Not totally sure tho. It would make sense to not have to walk downstairs to grill.
Oh, she had to have the deck as high as she could get it because she is upper crust. (in her mind)
The mediocre put their decks barely above ground. I wouldn't have a deck from a 2nd or 3rd floor unless it had huge concrete pilings to stabilize it.
Plus, I am extremely acrophobic. Also, can't stand elevators.
Hoda and KLG looked like "Really?". They were pulling teeth to get a half decent interview out of Kate and she teases them in their live interview? Gives them nothing?
Uh, no, that's not how promotion works. Being forthcoming shows that your genuine and relatable, if not quite likable.
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Isn't that what celebrities do when they're invited onto a talk show for a short interview about their upcoming...whatever, show a short clip and then say everyone will have to wait and see what happens? They're trying to build up interest to get viewers.
I really saw nothing wrong with that interview. Kate did better than usual, very few ummmmms. I don't like it when people start their sentences with "I mean" as if they're trying to explain what they were talking about in a previous sentence and Kate does that a lot, but then so do a lot of other people.
Isn't that what celebrities do when they're invited onto a talk show for a short interview about their upcoming...whatever, show a short clip and then say everyone will have to wait and see what happens? They're trying to build up interest to get viewers.
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No. Celebs tell a brief story about what's coming up on air. Obviously you don't give a spoiler alert.
But a fun story about how the kids said this funny thing about the guy, or the date and her camerman fond out they have a mutual interest in football and ended up setting a bro date which doesn't happen sans camera, I don't know. Frankly, make it up if you have to. But give them something. Then ya say, tune in for more. The girls obviously wanted to engage her and talk to her about this like a celeb doing normal promotion, but no dice. They gave her every opportunity, and it was met with dead air.
She went straight to--tune in!
It's like she's too stupid to understand the art of promotion. She has heard not to give out spoiler alerts but doesn't understand there is a happy medium there. Obviously you don't give away the ending. But you don't tell them nothing either.
On the bomb meme page, they end by saying authorities "may have went too far". The grammar/word usage really grates, but I agree with their sentiment. Once it was determined that it wasn't a bomb, it should have been treated seriously but with regard to the rules of law and evidence and common decency.
Looks like Kate did an interview with The Reading Eagle, her local paper.
http://tinyurl.com/zuaml2u
Fourth season of 'Kate Plus 8' to feature some twists and turns
Berks County's most famous reality mom will be back on television this week.
"Kate Plus 8" returns for a fourth season on TLC on Tuesday at 9 p.m., and Kate Gosselin herself promises a roller coaster ride of emotions and antics from her eight children, including 15-year old twins Mady and Cara and 11-year-old sextuplets Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah and Joel. And she even dips a toe back into the dating pool.
"It's been six single years, and I've been focusing on my kids during that time which keeps me busy to say the least," said Gosselin, who lives in Lower Heidelberg Township. "But this year I decided to take some time to see what it's like to be back out in the dating world. It's strange as there's some odd twists and turns that no one could predict."
And it gets even odder, she said.
"The weirdest part is that I have teenagers now who are just around the corner from being able to date as well," she said. "The conversations throughout this season are pretty surreal due to the strange parallels in our lives."
Parenting eight teens and tweens has its share of challenges, too, she said.
"I always heard that as your kids grow, the work goes from physical work - lifting babies - to mental and emotional work - relationships, greater responsibility and making decisions - and I would have sworn that nothing could have been harder than caring for eight kids three years old and under, but it has," she said.
Gosselin said that back in the day she also relied on local friends and volunteers to make it through the day.
"Thank you all again," she said. "But the biggest challenge is definitely having to constantly balance everyone's individual needs and wants fairly, while making sure that each child has enough of me, too. It's a real struggle that becomes an almost constant logistical game of 'Tetris.' I often describe my life as just that: a game of 'Tetris'!"
You'll see a lot of that balancing on the new season of "Kate Plus 8" as the family deals with trips and time at home.
"There were a lot of house projects that needed to be done, and the kids wanted to go to a beach, so somehow we crammed it all in and had a fun, loud, wild summer together," she said. "That was filled with lots of teen and preteen opinions. You know, it's our life as usual."
After stints on both "Dancing with the Stars" and "Celebrity Apprentice," Gosselin said she likes her life being so full and busy, but does like to relax now and then.
"My kids will tell you that if and when I do get to relax, I love to sleep," she said. "And all eight kids will sometimes pile into my bed and we'll watch a movie or something on TV together. That's some nice cozy relaxation that we all really enjoy, until the bickering and fighting starts over what to watch."
On the bomb meme page, they end by saying authorities "may have went too far". The grammar/word usage really grates, but I agree with their sentiment. Once it was determined that it wasn't a bomb, it should have been treated seriously but with regard to the rules of law and evidence and common decency.
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Yes, and that's where the lines are getting blurred.
His supporters seem to think that if you feel this should have been taken very seriously you condone how he was treated. That's two different things.
I want this young man's bomb-looking like device taken seriously. I support thoroughly investigating him and his family. However his rights should be protected just like anyone being questioned. I also think he and his family should take some responsibilty on his end, too, which they stubbornly refuse to do, and our POTUS backed them up, shockingly. This could have been a learning experience for all involved. Instead, he packed up his clock and left the country. That helps no one.
Gosselin said that back in the day she also relied on local friends and volunteers to make it through the day.
"Thank you all again," she said.
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I guess she got the memo that the interview she gave not too long ago in which she insisted she had no help during the baby years, was really shitty and disrespectful to everyone in the community who volunteered.
Gosselin said that back in the day she also relied on local friends and volunteers to make it through the day.
"Thank you all again," she said. "But the biggest challenge is definitely having to constantly balance everyone's individual needs and wants fairly, while making sure that each child has enough of me, too. It's a real struggle that becomes an almost constant logistical game of 'Tetris.' I often describe my life as just that: a game of 'Tetris'!"
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Thanks, volunteers and family, but you really didn't do the heavy lifting. I'm doing that ALONE!!!
ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!
No wonder Kate has perma-acrylics on her nails. Real nails would break, nay, tear to shreds, from the vigorous and non-stop patting on the back she does to herself!
Re: the Today interview. I agree Kate's verbal tics were far more in check, but she really needed to memorize a few cogent sentences to give the viewers at least a glimpse of what the new season has in store.
Thanks, volunteers and family, but you really didn't do the heavy lifting. I'm doing that ALONE!!!
ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!
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Too bad Jon is dead, right Kate?
I agree, Tuckers. "Thank you all again," she said. "But ...
There's the "but". Meaning of course that SHE's still got the hard work to do all by her iddy biddy self.
She couldn't just say thank you and leave it at that, even though she waited eleven years to say it.
@Admin,i was reading an old article you posted about how a fan was stalking her favorite celebrity and the comments you made about what Kate fans would do if they ever got rejected by Kate.Im going to have disagree with you and say that i'd be more worry about Jon then Kate when it comes to her fans.The way they're so devoted to her they.If anyone remembers when Jon went to fight for custody of Hannah,this put the fans into an outrage,they went after him on twitter and harassed him on there and talked about how no judge would give him custody.Now imagine if Jon does get custody of 1 of his kids and this effects filming and maybe cancel the show.These fans would be out for blood for both Jon and if there would be a jury or judge that decides to give him custody.
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@Admin,i was reading an old article you posted about how a fan was stalking her favorite celebrity and the comments you made about what Kate fans would do if they ever got rejected by Kate.Im going to have disagree with you and say that i'd be more worry about Jon then Kate when it comes to her fans
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Well, I can't argue with you there! I don't think I've heard or read anyone of Kate's detractors say that they wish she were in a horrific accident and in a coma for 6 months, or that they'd blow up his car.
Yikes!
WTH. Reading Eagle just printed her PR. It was't an interview.
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WTH. Reading Eagle just printed her PR. It was't an interview.
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Didn't she use the phrase "twists and turns" on her Today Show interview? Someone must have told her that's the designated verbiage for the new episodes. I wonder if she had it written on her hand.
Sigh. Let's remember that this was a 14 year old boy. His parents may have chosen to pack up and leave the country, but it was not his decision. And for all we know, this had more to do with an career opportunity for either parent than anything else. Would either of the Gosselin twins be in a position to pack up and leave the country? Let's keep some perspective on this.
And for other perspectives, it may be JMO but I do not think there will be much interest in Robert's book this time around. That ship has sailed.
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"Twists and turns" lol. That was on her media days prep flash cards TLC made her. Hey, at least she's trying to prep instead of being lazy and just winging it.
Why do I keep picturing that wonderful film Game Change about Sarah Palin. They were prepping her for the debates and it was an uphill battle and they had made flash cards with buzzwords and talking points and kept instructing her to pivot back to her strong points when in doubt.
I picture WOody Harrleson yelling at his TV with Kate on, "Pivot! Pivot! YES!!!"
On a side note, twists and turns? It's your LIFE, not an M. Night Shyamalan film.
But a fun story about how the kids said this funny thing about the guy, or the date and her camerman fond out they have a mutual interest in football and ended up setting a bro date which doesn't happen sans camera, I don't know. Frankly, make it up if you have to. But give them something. Then ya say, tune in for more. The girls obviously wanted to engage her and talk to her about this like a celeb doing normal promotion, but no dice. They gave her every opportunity, and it was met with dead air.
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Perfect example of seeing what we want to see. I didn't notice any dead air. I don't think Kate's that comfortable with live interviews. I don't think she can think on her feet, but of all the interviews I've seen, this was one of her better ones, IMO: no throwing Jon under the bus, no excessive cleavage, not sure if she did the "honestly..." thing, don't remember seeing that. She talked some about the date, saying there are twists and turns. Probably the best anyone is going to get out of her. As far as making something up that isn't even on the show just to get viewers? Not a good idea, again, IMO.
On a side note, twists and turns? It's your LIFE, not an M. Night Shyamalan film.
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Maybe she just made that up! LOL
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On a side note, twists and turns? It's your LIFE, not an M. Night Shyamalan film.
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Well, when gum on a sock and a toy cause the mother of all meltdowns, I can only imagine the trauma of a blind date.
It must be heart-pounding. A real white-knuckler. Oh, how will it end??? (cue organ music)
Tune in next week, same Kate-time, same Kate-channel.
"We'll sell you the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge. dun, dun, DUN!!!!
Perfect example of seeing what we want to see
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I didn't "want" to see anything. I saw what I saw and talked about it.
You saw "dead air." I sure didn't.
I just saw Hoda and KLG trying really hard to pull off the interview, being the pros that they are.
I'm surprised there wasn't a handful of interviews done remotely while she was in NYC.
Back in the day, doing a spot on The View would have been a foregone conclusion.
OT- Sue Buddy, what was that show on Acorn you recommended?
This season of "Getting On" is superlative.
We watched "Jessica Jones" on Netflix and it was pretty good-very different from my usual taste, but so well acted.
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