Someone asked Jon on his instagram why the judge doesn't make Kate allow all the kids to see him. His response was "You would think that would be the norm, but not in this case." Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Where's K8 today, encouraging her fans to watch all their FUN tonight? I wonder if TLC is making some last-minute adjustments to tonight's broadcast in the wake of Jon's interview. They've known about it since late last week, which would seem ample time to work something anti-Jon into her narrative. If something wasn't there already, of course.
@Reader Goody does that alot and Gladys as well.Goody thinks that if she repeats her lie that the book was STOLEN and MODIFIED that people will believe her.Funny thing is that Hoffman responded to it and said"Well that should be easy to prove in a court of law".I herd 1 excuse that they gave for Kate dropping the suit was that she wanted to "spare"Jon and Robert.Can you say excuses?
Jamesvader1194 said... 187 @Reader Goody does that alot and Gladys as well.Goody thinks that if she repeats her lie that the book was STOLEN and MODIFIED that people will believe her.Funny thing is that Hoffman responded to it and said"Well that should be easy to prove in a court of law".I herd 1 excuse that they gave for Kate dropping the suit was that she wanted to "spare"Jon and Robert.Can you say excuses? January 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM **** Sparing Robert and Jon is higher on Kate's priority list than looking out for the kids' safety and futures? Huh? Since when does Kate care about anyones feelings?
Localyocul (#187), when that dog owner said "I can’t believe she ran the whole half-marathon because she’s actually really lazy," I thought maybe he was talking about TFW!
Tucker's mom said (171)...I remember when Taylor Swift played Kate on SNL. Not flattering. ***** Here is the link to a video of that. I'd never seen it but it's pretty funny. I'm not sure if TS is that bad of an actress or if she's making Kate to be that bad. I wonder what Kate thought of her 'friend' TS after that? http://popcrush.com/taylor-swift-best-snl-skits/
I know I get frustrated, but really my frustration is for Jon, not at Jon. Evidently, there's more to the story about why Jon doesn't see his child.
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I sometimes wonder if the reason Kate doesn't let him see his son that if it is Collin, she doesn't want him to know that he's medicated and to what extent. All hell would break loose then.
I sometimes wonder if the reason Kate doesn't let him see his son that if it is Collin, she doesn't want him to know that he's medicated and to what extent. All hell would break loose then. ***** Collin has looked pretty out of it several times on the show. His face is slack and blank, and eyes half closed.
Now we have no idea what he pays but it can't be $20,000. Kate and Jon appear $&$$$$$ We do know what he pays. He pays zero. The source for that? Jon, who has stated that he does not pay child support.
DeckDude Matt will make your day He even serves the gays!
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I wonder if he has a sample portfolio of deck photos divided into sections, with a specific section for gay and lesbian decks so they can choose the one that best fits their needs.
Now we have no idea what he pays but it can't be $20,000.
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Actually, we do. He doesn't pay child support, as ordered by the courts. I am sure that during his custodial time he takes care of their needs.
His lack of direct monthly payment is what the sheep have been baah-ing about ever since the attorney confirmed that he was relieved of support. Sheep don't understand that this wasn't a secret arrangement between Jon and Kate, with bargaining going on. It would be illegal to do this -- it must go through the courts and if the courts decided that child support is needed, then it would have been so ordered.
The fans just can't grasp this, and you can try to explain this until the cows come home, but they are never going to get it.
I seem to remember some sort of implication Jon took a puff of a joint just prior to Kate saying she "had" to file for the divorce for their safety.
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She also blogged that she had to file the lawsuit because of her concern for the safety of her kids. When she dismissed the lawsuit, she never said how the kids were no longer in danger.
@Reader Goody does that alot and Gladys as well.Goody thinks that if she repeats her lie that the book was STOLEN and MODIFIED that people will believe her.
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Well, Goody is nuts, so you can't take anything she says with even a grain of salt. After all, Robert devoted quite a bit in his book about the crazy fan. Of course she said it was stolen and modified.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 196 Localyocul (#187), when that dog owner said "I can’t believe she ran the whole half-marathon because she’s actually really lazy," I thought maybe he was talking about TFW!
I wonder if he has a sample portfolio of deck photos divided into sections, with a specific section for gay and lesbian decks so they can choose the one that best fits their needs.
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I asked the same question the other day after I looked at the DeckDoodie's website. I couldn't tell which was the lesbian deck. Admin said it's the gay looking one right next to the preacher's.
I haven't the foggiest idea what the settlement said and neither does anyone else. The terms have never been disclosed. So the idea that it was widely reported he agreed to let the children be filmed doesn't make a whole lot of sense since no one has ever talked about the terms
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True. I'd never believe anything that was "widely reported" if it were unconfirmed. You can't make judgments or come to conclusions on widely reported stories. It's just not logical.
In the interview, Jon said that he does not regret the show because it provided for the kids. He also indicated that there was money put away for their future. He has said in other interviews that the show was a good thing. The only time he hs said differently was in the aftermath of the divorce. So, It doesn't sound like he is opposed to their filming as long as it is not excessive. So, why is it so hard to believe that he agreed to this as part of the settlement? Maybe it wasn't explicit--maybe he just gave up legal custody. That is effectively the same thing, and I think he was fully aware of it.
I can see that Jon may leave it up to the kids as to when they see him. I don't agree with that, but it is his relationship at stake. I think it would go against his basic nature to force them. But, if this is the case, then it is really disingenuous to go on a television show and not own up to that, and cast the responsibility on Kate. I cannot see what he thinks will be gained by dragging up this particular time in his life--he comes off as either stupid or passive-aggressive. Or, maybe both.
Try as I might I cannot even imagine the scenario where this man does not see his son for a year and a half, especially when he sees the other siblings regularly. It makes no sense at all. And this child, the one his mother regularly treats with disdain with cameras rolling, what happens when all the other kids are gone? He and Mommy Dearest share meals, watch movies together? There is something very very wrong with this picture. Add to this picture the somewhat hazy picture of his new education program (public school, home tutor, ?), there are red flags flying everywhere.
Not a fan of Kate by any means, but the talk about C being medicated is really none of our business. She does have legal custody, so I'm assuming, that is her call.
But the widespread assumptions that kids who are on meds are "zoned out", and look like a zombie, are what contribute to the stigma of mental illness. My 9 yr old is on meds for anxiety. It doesn't make him a zombie, it helps him to be able to work on calming his anxieties.
We don't know what the issues are with C, as we shouldn't. It was hard enough for us as parents to make the decision (with our son's Doctor), to try medication, after all the therapy we did (and continue to do). Believe me, we didn't put him on meds to "make it easier" for us, as a lot of parents comment in general.
Of course it's obvious that some of the kids have emotional issues. We can all see it. And giving your kid a pill is not a magic potion. It does not fix everything. Sometimes, it enables them to cope better. And sometimes, it is needed.
Anyway, as I said, it is my opinion that the settlement included allowing the kids to film, and some kind of salary (if it was not already stipulated in the contract).
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No terms of the settlement ever were disclosed so it *is* a big leap to believe that a salary was included. I don't ever recall anything about Jon accepting money from TLC.
Blowing (18)...I don't know what the other blog is, but I do remember in the past that the person you asked about went to the blog that was shut down and commented negatively about this one. Perhaps the same thing is now occurring on another blog, but I, too, am in the dark about this.
Ex Nurse, what you say is a possibility. Jon was all in as far as filming until the marriage went south. I think what probably upsets him now could be that a few of the kids do not want to film and they are being forced to by their mother. I don't believe, though, that he is allowing the kids to choose to see him. I totally believe that is Kate is controlling visitation to get under his skin and influence some of the kids against their father.
I asked the same question the other day after I looked at the DeckDoodie's website. I couldn't tell which was the lesbian deck. Admin said it's the gay looking one right next to the preacher's.
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lol!! If one is not ordained, may he or she still opt for the preacher's deck or does Matt require proof of preacher status?
t is my opinion that the settlement included allowing the kids to film, and some kind of salary
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I think speculation is a better word. Fair enough.
An opinion is when you know a set of facts and you develop a take on those facts. Usually the facts themselves are not in dispute, it's your take on them that differs among people. But the settlement is under lock and key. I'm not sure how you form an opinion on something no one has ever seen but the folks involved.
What I'm hearing from everyone else is, we can't possibly speculate about that and probably won't ever know.
I can see that Jon may leave it up to the kids as to when they see him. I don't agree with that, but it is his relationship at stake. I think it would go against his basic nature to force them. ****** I agree, however, both parents should be on this dysfunction like white on rice. They're not, and I don't get why the court hasn't ordered a mediator or counselor or some professional to facilitate all children spending their allotted time with Dad.
I asked the same question the other day after I looked at the DeckDoodie's website. I couldn't tell which was the lesbian deck. Admin said it's the gay looking one right next to the preacher's.
Admin., IF Jon gave up legal custody (not saying he did) would this have any bearing on him being able to enforce the children visiting him? For instance with no legal custody could he still go to court to enforce visitation? And if the court ordered visitation was not being met could Jon call the police and tell Kate to bring the kids to his car?
I know Kate has always had primary and physical custody, isn't that correct? Thanks!
We do know what he pays. He pays zero. The source for that? Jon, who has stated that he does not pay child support. ===== Wasn't it on the View with Barbara Walters that Jon said he did not pay any child support?
Leslie said... 25 Admin., IF Jon gave up legal custody (not saying he did) would this have any bearing on him being able to enforce the children visiting him? For instance with no legal custody could he still go to court to enforce visitation? And if the court ordered visitation was not being met could Jon call the police and tell Kate to bring the kids to his car?
I know Kate has always had primary and physical custody, isn't that correct? Thanks! **** Great question. I think Kate has legal custody, which gives her the power to decide things like school and medical care. Maybe she has leverage if she claims the child would be negatively impacted if forced to see Jon. Maybe she has authority to veto a child visit? What I'm pretty darn sure about is if any child refuses to see Jon, that would be fine and dandy with her. More than fine and dandy.
Admin., IF Jon gave up legal custody (not saying he did) would this have any bearing on him being able to enforce the children visiting him?
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None whatsoever. Legal custody is medical, educational, religious decisions, etc. Not time with your children.
I have kind of had experience with Jon saying the courts won't do anything. If you don't have a judge who doesn't get excited when parents don't follow court orders, it can be like pulling teeth. Many judges are afraid to hold someone in contempt because it's a complicated process and easy to screw up. Hence they will drag you through years of litigation refusing to hold the offending parent accountable. And then I've been in front of judges who will hold people in contempt all the time, even attorneys! Some are comfortable with it, some aren't. It sounds like he drew the short straw, which is a real shame.
But, you have another remedy. The. police. I do not know what his objection is to calling the police, I can only assume he's worried it will make things worse. But if I were advising him, I would say you've got to do it. You've got to call when Kate doesn't follow the court orders. If she sends four kids down the driveway and your family law order entitles you to eight, you call the police. The police are usually quicker, simpler and cheaper than trying to go through the courts get a court date and complain about what happened on a Friday six weeks ago.
Leslie said... 28 Admin., IF Jon gave up legal custody (not saying he did) would this have any bearing on him being able to enforce the children visiting him? For instance with no legal custody could he still go to court to enforce visitation? And if the court ordered visitation was not being met could Jon call the police and tell Kate to bring the kids to his car?
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Thats what's confusing me. She has sole legal custody but that is separate from physical custody. She must not have sole physical or he would never get them at all. He says there is an agreement of every other weekend and one evening a week. Unless the agreement specifies that the kids can decide wether to go,it doesn't make sense.
I know Kate has always had primary and physical custody, isn't that correct? Thanks!
My understanding is most jurisdictions do not give a mother that power.
In California you are not supposed to allow a parent, child, or even a therapist to veto visitation. It's a violation of the separation of powers doctrine. The JUDGE has sole discretion as to whether visits will occur and under what terms, and must make a finding of "detriment to the child" if no visits are ordered, but may base the decision on the recommendations of the child's wishes and the therapist. The judge may not, however, delegate them the power to decide that.
Remember separation of powers from 12th grade civics? :)
I looked up when Jon was on the View and found this comment on this blog. BTW it was the end of Sept. 2013. ==== "He said that Kate has primary legal custody which includes school, medical, etc. but they have shared physical custody.
Doesn't pay child support, but states he put 80% of income from the show in a trust for the for the kids."
But, you have another remedy. The. police. I do not know what his objection is to calling the police, I can only assume he's worried it will make things worse. But if I were advising him, I would say you've got to do it. You've got to call when Kate doesn't follow the court orders. If she sends four kids down the driveway and your family law order entitles you to eight, you call the police. The police are usually quicker, simpler and cheaper than trying to go through the courts get a court date and complain about what happened on a Friday six weeks ago. -------------------- I haven't commented here in a long time but I saw the clips of Jon on YT and decided to read the comments here. In theory what you are saying is great. I agree that is the way to get things done. However I wonder if it would hurt the kids more than help them? Surely it is detrimental to their emotional well being not to see their father but I don't know if they would be more or less damaged by such a scene: Daddy calling the police, Mommy screaming and yelling and being dramatic(we all know that is exactly what Kate would do), them crying(maybe convinced horrible things will happen if they go, who knows what she's telling them, especially Collin) and terrified, police officers trying to rally them out the door....It sounds like such a horrific and traumatizing event. What if it happens every other week-end? Every single time the same police circus...Maybe that's what Jon is thinking when he hesitates to call the police. I am absolutely convinced Kate would make it as traumatizing as possible for the children. What do you think? I am so sad to hear the boy has not seen his father in so long,it's so horrible.
The JUDGE has sole discretion as to whether visits will occur and under what terms, and must make a finding of "detriment to the child" if no visits are ordered, but may base the decision on the recommendations of the child's wishes and the therapist. The judge may not, however, delegate them the power to decide that. ***** Supposing a judge is holding a child back from seeing Jon, I assume Jon would be fully apprised as to why. So, I don't understand how Jon seems to be in the dark about it.
Not a fan of Kate by any means, but the talk about C being medicated is really none of our business. She does have legal custody, so I'm assuming, that is her call.
___________________ I don't think that anyone here is saying that medicated kids are zombies, or that there is anything wrong with using the best approach possible for helping kids with whatever issues they have, If medications are the answer, then so be it, and if there is success with going that route, then that's what you do.
What's been said is that viewers have noticed a change in Collin's behavior/demeanor or whatever you want to call it, and one of the reasons that Kate doesn't want Jon to see him might be that if he could see for himself that his son has issues that are far worse than he knows, then Jon might try to intervene and go to lengths to cease filming of that child. For Kate, working those kids is what it's all about, and nobody, not even their father, is going to change that.
Remember separation of powers from 12th grade civics? :)
______________ Ah, yes, but it wasn't civics. It was POD, Problems Of Democracy. I remember the teacher. We were all scared to death of him. Unfortunately, we had assigned seats, and mine was front row, center. Great for a concert, but really, really bad in a classroom.
The question I have, is why would he give up legal custody? Was it a money thing? Did he get bad advice? Not sure why he would not want a say in all things medical, educational, etc? We may never know, but just wondering what reasons behind this may be?
Yes but I don't think it's "really" the judge holding the child back. I think it's Kate not ensuring that eight kids get into his van when visitation begins. I think where the judge comes in is perhaps Jon has complained to the court, to which the judge may have said something like, well Mr. Gosselin, would you like me to force the mother to put a kicking and screaming child in the van with you? It's up to you, sir.
Been there, done that.
To which the affable Jon says, well no your honor, please don't do that.
Total speculation but you can see how a parent gets caught in an endless circle with this garbage.
The question I have, is why would he give up legal custody?
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Assuming he "chose" to give up anything, if things are as awful as he says when it comes to co-parenting, in some cases it can be best to just allow one parent to have legal custody. If you are literally running back to court for every single decision because you will never agree on anything, that can get expensive and awful on teh children.
It might have been better for the children's emotional health to stop the bickering over school, medical care, etc. That is a reasonable explanation.
I can see Jon say she's got them in a great school, I don't care much one way or the other if they go to church, and she provides them medical care more or less--enough is enough with the bickering.
Tucker's Mom: Supposing a judge is holding a child back from seeing Jon, I assume Jon would be fully apprised as to why. So, I don't understand how Jon seems to be in the dark about it. === I am with you on that. Something is missing big time. And you know it does become our business (meaning of course we are going to wonder and speculate) because both Jon and Kate have bought it into the public's eye many times.
And the fact that he sees four of them several times every month means the court is not against Jon seeing the kids. If something was wrong with Jon than he would not being seeing any of the eight kids. But that is not the case.
He really needs to get all of his 8 kids into counseling with him or at least the ones that don't visit him. Something must have happened or been said when they previously visited Jon. Or Kate probably brainwashed them with some bullshit. It sounds like they have really bad feelings toward him. Whatever it is it has to be worked out and he is the adult in the situation.
He is their father and must insist on seeing them. Whatever he is doing is not working. If I were him I would send Kate a certified letter telling her I dearly miss the kids and I want all my kids in counseling with me so we could work this out. And then ask her to set up a calendar when the kids would be available. Send the letter so she has to sign it. That way Kate cannot claim he never sent that to him. At least that way he would have proof that he has tried in future years. Maybe the kids do not know that he really wants to see them.
"Milo is doing PR for the final episode hoping her Katie Irene gets a renewal so Milo can continue her CWS.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago Final show! @Kateplusmy8 10pm Tues @TLC Sage advice from a wiser more discerning Mom! #TB to the #ToddlerYears How would she parent now?
TUES.10pm A wiser @Kateplusmy8 goes back N time 2evaluate those "Did I do that?" mom moments! LOL Can't wait to see this! #Parenting @TLC
Milo is acting like this is America's Funniest Home Vidoes, not Kate being a bitch to her children."
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Now, Milo, why would an amazing, do it all herself, always has kids' best interest at heart Mommy change anything about the way she parented her toddlers?
"'Did I do that?' mom moments. LOL'"? "Can't wait to see this"?
Someone has every possible screw loose, I swear. Who on earth would want to watch clips of a parent treating their small children horribly and then switch back to a couch interview where no doubt said parent is rationalizing and justifying their disgusting behaviour?
And another thing I would do is provide a paid phone for the kids so he could call them. He could arrange a good time for them to talk to him. Something like an half hour or so before bedtime. To me, and I may be wrong, but it sounds like he doesn't even talk to his kids on the phone.
Maybe that's what Jon is thinking when he hesitates to call the police. I am absolutely convinced Kate would make it as traumatizing as possible for the children. What do you think? I am so sad to hear the boy has not seen his father in so long,it's so horrible.
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Hi roxy, hope things are well with you. Yes, those same ideas about police intervention has been mentioned a bit earlier. I have the same feelings about this. Jon is so "don't make waves and upset them" when it comes to the well-being of his kids, that this wouldn't surprise me in the least.
I can see Jon say she's got them in a great school, I don't care much one way or the other if they go to church, and she provides them medical care more or less--enough is enough with the bickering.
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I totally get that and it makes sense. The issue is Jon not seeing all of his kids and the continued filming because, according to Jon, some have told him they no longer want to film. I am sure he is frustrated that he is unable to advocate for his children and maybe giving her legal custody was a mistake.
Having experienced a troubled child, Collin is medicated. He is either on too strong a dosage or the meds need to be changed. I hope his pediatrician watches the show. This sounds horrible, but I see Kate, as a former nurse, manipulating the situation so the child is more docile that he needs to be.
Alberta Girl (#21), thank you for sharing about your son. I can only speak for myself, but I certainly don't think using medication is in any way a cop out. And I have no doubt you made that decision for your son with a great deal of care and consideration. I think people are so concerned about C because his primary caregiver notoriously lacks compassion and common sense in regards to her children's welfare.
Leslie said... 51 And another thing I would do is provide a paid phone for the kids so he could call them. He could arrange a good time for them to talk to him. Something like an half hour or so before bedtime. To me, and I may be wrong, but it sounds like he doesn't even talk to his kids on the phone.
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My ex and his wife were on the warpath when mine was in middle school. He would take her phone so I got a cheap prepaid phone for her to bring instead of her real one.
Leslie, 51: And another thing I would do is provide a paid phone for the kids so he could call them. He could arrange a good time for them to talk to him. Something like an half hour or so before bedtime. To me, and I may be wrong, but it sounds like he doesn't even talk to his kids on the phone.
***** That might work for a short time, but she'd hear them on the phone, confiscate it and smash it.
He is their father and must insist on seeing them. Whatever he is doing is not working. If I were him I would send Kate a certified letter telling her I dearly miss the kids and I want all my kids in counseling with me so we could work this out. And then ask her to set up a calendar when the kids would be available. Send the letter so she has to sign it. That way Kate cannot claim he never sent that to him. At least that way he would have proof that he has tried in future years. Maybe the kids do not know that he really wants to see them.
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A letter sent first class, certified, or delivered by a constable would mean diddly squat to her. She'd just laugh it off. It's not a court order. They don't co-parent. She doesn't give a rat's patootie if he dearly misses them. In fact, she may even enjoy the fact that he does miss them...anything to punish him.
I'll bet Katie's fingers can't type fast enough to reply to this one. lol
Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett · 3m3 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME
Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett 22m22 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME
"I think people are so concerned about C because his primary caregiver notoriously lacks compassion and common sense in regards to her children's welfare."
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This. This is probably one of the best statements I've ever come across about Kate in general. So eloquent, so succinct and so true.
There is no need to know Kate personally to arrive at this conclusion either. There are hours upon hours of video footage PROVING it.
If it's the realest reality show that ever was as she claims, then what excuses can she come up with now to justify the things she does?
'I'm not really a shitty mom, I just play one on t.v.'
We can snark about her looks, her clothes, her cooking, her media career attempts but at the end of the day it his her lack of compassion and common sense when it comes to her kids' well being that is her ultimate fail.
It's just incredibly sad that instead of facing that reality and changing it, she instead chooses to perpetuate a false one at the expense of her children.
I didn't see Jon's interview and I won't speculate about what he's doing or not doing. Seems like the guy gets the stick from both ends either way.
I just hope he has the strength, the determination and the support he needs to keep trying to do what's best for his kids. They deserve to be fought for.
Of course, she believed the girls when one of them said the boys did it.
Then in her couch interview, Kate throws the boys under the bus by saying they said "nobody did it", which indicates they were lying, and then she says "and it still continues to this day".
Kate stresses about how exhausted she was and still is trying to raise her kids.
"“Exhaustion and parenting go hand-in-hand,” Gosselin said later. “I’ve lived most of my life exhausted.”"
So I guess exhaustion will be her main excuse for all the bad ways that she treated her kids.
"'Did I do that?' mom moments. LOL'"? "Can't wait to see this"?
Someone has every possible screw loose, I swear. Who on earth would want to watch clips of a parent treating their small children horribly and then switch back to a couch interview where no doubt said parent is rationalizing and justifying their disgusting behaviour?
_____________ Love is blind. Milo would watch Kate do anything, anything at all.
Question: Would there be any public record if Jon HAS called the police to get her to comply with the visitation schedule? I was just wondering if he had tried and the consequences weren't worth it as TFW is known for never letting things go and always seeking revenge.
Well, I guess that it is also speculation that the son that Jon doesn't see is Colin. Yet, comment after comment, it is asserted as fact. There is always a different standard when applied to Jon. Anything negative that is reported is rumor and speculation whenit comes to Jon, but absolute truth if it is about Kate.
Somewhere In Time said... 65 Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett 22m22 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME
Oh, no...here we go!
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What will they do on SYTYCD?
Sit on a couch on stage and gripe, fuss, spit, hit, scream?
Too late now, TFW to get them gymnastic and dance classes. They could of been doing that for years, but you were too cheap to do it. They LOVED the day that they got to go to the gymnastics classes while they were filming.
Of course, Milo absolutely love the door knob clip:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack Fired Up 4 Kate Retweeted TheWrap @Kateplusmy8 LOL My favorite clip! #ClassicBoys aggravating mom! The #NoNameBlameGame & they did it so well!
Kate went overboard blaming the boys based on what the girls said, not thinking for a minute that the boys were telling the truth, and none of them did it. Of course, because Kate blamed the boys, Milo does too. Kate's always right!!
Reminds me of the story of the peeling globe. Kate blamed one of the boys but in the end it turned out to be one of the girls.
Somewhere In Time said... 65 Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett 22m22 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME
Oh, no...here we go! ****** Don't you have to have dance skill and talent for this show?
Well, I guess that it is also speculation that the son that Jon doesn't see is Colin.
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No, it's certainly not. Jon stated he hadn't seen one of the boys. Jon himself very recently posted photos of both Aaden and Joel.
Here's Aaden: https://www.instagram.com/p/_epsbESF8t/?taken-by=dj_jon_gosselin And here's Joel: https://www.instagram.com/p/9lNusQSF8h/?taken-by=dj_jon_gosselin
Thus, one can logically conclude it's Colin who the trouble is with. Hardly speculation. A logical inference. Unlike other things we are in the dark about, there is no speculation necessary on this point. It's Colin, plain as day.
Try as I might I cannot even imagine the scenario where this man does not see his son for a year and a half, especially when he sees the other siblings regularly. It makes no sense at all. And this child, the one his mother regularly treats with disdain with cameras rolling, what happens when all the other kids are gone? He and Mommy Dearest share meals, watch movies together? There is something very very wrong with this picture. Add to this picture the somewhat hazy picture of his new education program (public school, home tutor, ?), there are red flags flying everywhere. ****************************** Calculated isolation and alienation.
Hey here's something, maybe Maw and Paw Kreider were exhausted too. Maybe Jon was tired. NO ONE gets a break for slacking in Kate's world except Kate all the time.
All of the suggestions as to what Jon should do (phone, letter, etc) would seem like an option to anyone who is willing to co-parent and extend the olive branch. You have to remember that Kate has serious anger issues, she is not normal, and she does not want anything to do with him. She is in charge and that will never change.
What might work in regards to custody issues in an amicable divorce situation where parents work together for the welfare of their children is not possible here. Suggestions as to what Jon should do sound good in theory, but not in practice.
OK I watch that clip. She's all high and mighty about the rules against property destruction. It's a freaking screw on dresser door knob. You screw it back in. How about the time she dragged is that vacuum across the rocks or through the twins toys down the steps? She doesn't see yelling about the doorknob as a problem at all IMI. She still doesn't get it. Oh and we've seen her freak out just as much recently with the paint on the floor and whatever it was on the deck that spilled
Apparently, Jon is the only loser in this family. TFW is rich, kids have trust funds, and Dad is broke. Talk about the ruination of a family, TLC. I will forever believe that TFW planned this from day one. She wanted those multiples and knew how to get them. Jon failed to mention in his interview on SH yesterday about how they "shopped video" trying desperately to get a television show. It is pathetic how this has turned out for Jon and his visitation, but most of us know that he "woke up" too late for the party. TFW and TLC didn't renew his invitation to celebrate. The entire story will be a terrific "read" some day when that book is authored by the 8 little faces.
I believe it was taken around the time that Jon had the gig in Atlantic City. The place that they're standing in front of is a restaurant in Brigantine, NJ called the Laguna Grill and Rum Bar. Brigantine is just a few minutes away from Harrah's Casino where Jon did his DJ gig in May.
OK I watch that clip. She's all high and mighty about the rules against property destruction. It's a freaking screw on dresser door knob. You screw it back in. How about the time she dragged is that vacuum across the rocks or through the twins toys down the steps?
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Yep, that is what I thought. I assumed it was probably the twins, Collin, and Alexis are the ones that Jon doesn't see on a frequent basis. But it sounds like it is Collin who Jon hasn't seen in years.
TFW and TLC didn't renew his invitation to celebrate. ==== That is not correct. Jon is the one who broke his contract with TLC and did not want to film anymore.
Tucker's Mom said... 73 Somewhere In Time said... 65 Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett 22m22 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME
Oh, no...here we go! ****** Don't you have to have dance skill and talent for this show?
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You mean like Kate had on DWTS? lol
But seriously, if it's an opportunity for first class accommodations off the backs of her kids, and possible face time, she'll be on this like white on rice.
"Preview clip of tonight's episode. They show the part about Kate trying to find out who took the doorknob off the dresser.
Kate stresses about how exhausted she was and still is trying to raise her kids.
"“Exhaustion and parenting go hand-in-hand,” Gosselin said later. “I’ve lived most of my life exhausted.”"
So I guess exhaustion will be her main excuse for all the bad ways that she treated her kids.
What else is new?"
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Exactly, what else is new? Awwww poor Kate, raising 8 kids all on her lonesome is exhausting.
1) She's alone because she has alienated every family member and friend who dared threatened "the brand".
2) She's actually not alone because she has insulated herself and the kids with paid nannies, make-up artists, production assistants and camera crews. All of whom are getting PAID to be there.
3) If she's so fing exhausted why the hell is she picking fights with toddlers over a knob in the first place? Make it a learning moment and show them how to screw it back in.
She's exhausted because it's her shtick, it's her persona and it's what she gets paid for. And she probably is too.
But all that exhaustion is completely her choice and it's very hard to be sympathetic. Especially because she seems intent on dragging eight innocent children with her.
Don't you have to have dance skill and talent for this show?
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You mean like Kate had on DWTS? lol ***** I thought the show is a contest for actual dancers, not fauxlebrities who get paired with pros and learn dances. I don't think any of the kids has had any dance lessons at all. I doubt those 8 pairs of dance shoes Kate got for free from Billy Bush even made it back to PA. The woman wouldn't even let her kids do gymnastics outside of ONE time for the cameras.
I believe it was taken around the time that Jon had the gig in Atlantic City. The place that they're standing in front of is a restaurant in Brigantine, NJ called the Laguna Grill and Rum Bar. Brigantine is just a few minutes away from Harrah's Casino where Jon did his DJ gig in May.
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Ah, Brigantine. My old surfer's hang-out. Fun memories, even though I was too young for the bar scene at that time!
The rabbi's deck has been peeled and scraped. January 26, 2016 at 11:30 AM ***** I much prefer decks that way.
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You ladies! ;)
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Doesn't the rabbi's deck have a retractable awning?
But seriously, if it's an opportunity for first class accommodations off the backs of her kids, and possible face time, she'll be on this like white on rice.
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Isn't Milo in the middle of this yet? How many tries did it take her to flag down Kate about a tweet sent by someone...I forget who it was, and Kate seemed to be annoyed and finally responded with, yes, she saw it right away!
Kate even mentioned today she is exhausted. Gee she has a good eight hours to sleep every week day and probably weekends too. And she looks old in that clip. Hard to believe she is only 40.
Serendipity (#79), you make a great point about this whole thing: TFW is in the equation. You have one parent looking out for the children's best interest, fighting against one who's looking out only for her own. At all costs. Always. And who has the money and legal muscle to make the other parent's life miserable, and has willingly done so in the past.
Think of how awful TFW's behavior has been with cameras rolling. Now try to imagine how horrifying it might be when they're not there. That's what Jon has to contend with.
TLC stinks said... 103 I think they took pictures, no filming (hopefully). Of course, why is she out there playing with the kids? Maybe it was filmed. =================
I highly doubt they were filming. For one, today was an unscheduled day off from school due to the snow. Places all over the east coast are still digging themselves out.
I'm sure TLC's shooting schedule is planned in advance, and I don't think TLC would have suddenly rushed up to Kate's house to film them playing in the snow due to the kids having an unscheduled day off.
I think Kate, as usual, is playing with her fans, teasing them into thinking there will be a new season soon. Especially since tonight is the last episode of the current season.
TLC stinks (#101), oh, yeah, she's been MIA because she's been outside ALLLLL day. From what we know of TFW, can you imagine her spending more than an hour in the cold without whining and complaining? Especially with 8 kids to deal with? Not buying it.
Notice she's Miss Friendly Pants the afternoon of the show, because she wants people to tune in. But we know she'll be "MIA" many more days after this one without a word of explanation. Like the month she disappeared for Celebrity Apprentice, while the other, heaven help me, stars, were tweeting away to their fans and keeping them in the loop. She doesn't give a hoot about her fans, but they don't seem to mind the one-sided relationship.
Notice she's Miss Friendly Pants the afternoon of the show, because she wants people to tune in. But we know she'll be "MIA" many more days after this one without a word of explanation. **** MIA implies that you are IA, and Kate's rarely IA on Twitter, except when she wants people to tune into her show. Was she outside all day pouting under a tarp, throwing moose dogs and whining about pretending to be homeless?
I know, Leslie, that Jon broke (quit) the contract. I was just trying to make the point that TFW and TLC were giving Jon no reason to stay and celebrate anything. It was a big bully with backing by a big corporation against one broken man trying to protect his children. Sad picture, really. I, like most here, don't know the whole story, but we know enough to have quite enough of the picture. Nothing to celebrate over at all. Thanks for the shout out.
@TLC stinks Don't think they're filming,she has posted pictures of them outside in the snow before and didn't mean filming.My guess is a nanny was outside with the kids while she was inside and then decided to take credit for what the nanny did with the kids.
Unless the film crew traveled all night after the school closing was announced, I doubt that they were filming. If they waited until this morning, then they were slipping and sliding on icy roads. We had 100 crashes reported before 9 a.m.
She gets to sleep in again tomorrow. Two-hour delay announced about 15 minutes ago.
No attorney worth their salt would ever advise a parent to put him/herself in that position.
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I agree, most of the time. But I can think of a few rare scenerios, especially involving parental alienation, where it can be the best thing to do for the children and the family. I have no idea if that is Jon's scenerio, I am not a fly on the wall. But it would be an odd situation to have a father with unmonitored visitation have no legal custody--extremely odd. So odd I don't think I've ever seen that before. Which makes me think it was done to try to settle down the conflict, a peace offering, an olive branch, done with good intentions and hope. It can't have been done because a parent is inappropriate, since he still has unmonitored contact. It goes both ways. If you are inappropriate to handle legal custody you would have monitored visits with your kids. Or, you live out of state or something.
Tucker's Mom said... 90 Don't you have to have dance skill and talent for this show?
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You mean like Kate had on DWTS? lol ***** I thought the show is a contest for actual dancers, not fauxlebrities who get paired with pros and learn dances. I don't think any of the kids has had any dance lessons at all. ------------------- I did too. It's more American Idol than Dancing With the Stars, but requires more training/background than A/I because dancing is inherently more difficult than singing.
The Tara person sent the same or a similar tweet to a whole bunch of celebs (using the term loosely) who have children in the right age group. Maybe she hopes that one or more of them will have kids with actual talent/training. Probably a lot of celebs do send their kids to dance classes, because they have the money and (hired help) time and think it will enhance the kids' lives. Enhancing the kids' lives is not on Kate's radar, unless she can insert herself and/or film it.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h2 hours ago I'm LIVE TWEETING during #KatePlus8 tonight-10pm on @TLC Seasons worth of 'cringe worthy' moments rewatched&explained by ME! Don't miss it! 19 retweets 125 likes Reply Retweet 19 Like 125 More
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Deb Rowland @lildebbieg22 @Kateplusmy8 @TLC it's been a few seasons of cringe ***** So true! Kate doesn't explain. She tries to rewrite history.
Shucks, TFW, if your show is the "realest reality," why do you need to explain those moments? You also told us, "What you see is what you get." Yet you seem to spend a lot of time explaining and backpedaling and dissecting things. Defensive much?
Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett · 3m3 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME ========= Tara Triplett is sending the same message to any "star" that has kids. As far as I know you've got to be a somewhat accomplished dancer to appear on SYTYCD. I'm sure the show is looking for kids more of the Dance Moms kids ilk. The draw of the show is that the kids are so talented.
Saw that it was a cyber day for the HS and middle school kids at their school. I wonder how it was handled at the house. Probably with a lot of screeching and gnashing of the teeth!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 Just a bit excited that MAYBE @TLC crew was there #MakingMemories w/you all? ❤ #TodaysSnowDay
Good grief, Glady. Can't the kids have any unspoiled, spontaneous fun days off without a film crew? She's insane. I wouldn't put it past Kate to push filming with this windfall of snow.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m2 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 Just a bit excited that MAYBE @TLC crew was there #MakingMemories w/you all? ❤ #TodaysSnowDay
Milo's already getting excited about a new season. Several other fans are hoping that they're filming too.
Don't they ever get tired of Kate's childish teasing?
I remember back in March 2013, when Kate was going on about a big, big surprise and her sheeple all assumed that she was finally going to back on the air. Then it turned out that the big announcement was her cookbook. I'm sure there were many disappointed fans when she announced that.
Kate is probably going to do a blog post with pictures showing what they did today. She doesn't have time right now to do it, because she's hyping the show and getting ready for her tweet fest. She won't tweet a picture because she likes to tease and that would spoil it.
So I predict in the next day or so she'll have a new blog post up.
Apparently tonight's episode was the brain child of Kate and Deanna.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago HEY! Last Tues #KatePlus8 episode was NOT THE SEASON FINALE! It's TONIGHT! All NEW #KatePlus8 at 10pm on @TLC Tonight! #MyALLTimeFavorite1
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting · 2h2 hours ago @Kateplusmy8 @TLC This is going to be a really good one!!!!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 38m38 minutes ago @deannatweeting @TLC I know! Our brain child&new favorite episode is about to air..I can't wait! It's so funny, meaningful, insightful&fun!
Funny and fun? I'm sure the kids thought that their mother torturing them, screaming at them, and threatening them was anything but funny or fun.
Tucker's Mom (#122), so first Gladys praises TFW for strengthening family bonds by playing outside. But in the next breath, she wants to watch this family bonding for her own enjoyment? They're not a freaking circus act - they're a family.
Barb Gilman said... 121 Saw that it was a cyber day for the HS and middle school kids at their school. I wonder how it was handled at the house. Probably with a lot of screeching and gnashing of the teeth! ===========
Doesn't MS start at 6th grade? The tups are only in 5th grade, so the cyber day only applied to the twins.
The description for tonight's episode: "Kate watches her younger self in clips from previous seasons and discusses her evolution as a mother and a person".
I really hope Karma knocks milo in the face.Because all her tweets today just shows how desperate she's hoping for more seasons.It sounds like she wants to give jon a big FU for what happen yesterday.
I wouldn't put it past Kate to push filming with this windfall of snow.
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That was my feeling, too. Knowing the kids would be off, she probably placed a call to the producer yesterday and they sent the crew out from Maryland, hazardous travel or not.
And I do wonder what beach resort TLC will send them to for the Spring Break film-o-rama this year??
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8 · Jan 19 You can't miss next weeks season finale! It's my second favorite after my Blind Date! #SageAdvice @TLC #KatePlus8
Then tonight she tweets:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago HEY! Last Tues #KatePlus8 episode was NOT THE SEASON FINALE! It's TONIGHT! All NEW #KatePlus8 at 10pm on @TLC Tonight! #MyALLTimeFavorite1
So which is it, Kate? Last week, the blind date episode was your favoritest episode and now this week's episode it your "all time" favoritest episode.
Guess she forgot what she tweeted last week. Must be that she's so exhausted from being out ALL DAY in the snow that her memory short-circuited.
Milo better watch out. Deanna's taking her place in defending Kate:
Brian @Oil_Xperts · 36m36 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 @TLC give jon his kids, ur a horrible parent and person ur kids will hate u for the damage u have caused
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting · 2m2 minutes ago @Oil_Xperts @Kateplusmy8 @TLC You never know the real story unless U are in a situation & I can say U really don't know the truth here.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 336 of 336 Newer› Newest»Someone asked Jon on his instagram why the judge doesn't make Kate allow all the kids to see him. His response was "You would think that would be the norm, but not in this case." Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Where's K8 today, encouraging her fans to watch all their FUN tonight? I wonder if TLC is making some last-minute adjustments to tonight's broadcast in the wake of Jon's interview. They've known about it since late last week, which would seem ample time to work something anti-Jon into her narrative. If something wasn't there already, of course.
@Reader Goody does that alot and Gladys as well.Goody thinks that if she repeats her lie that the book was STOLEN and MODIFIED that people will believe her.Funny thing is that Hoffman responded to it and said"Well that should be easy to prove in a court of law".I herd 1 excuse that they gave for Kate dropping the suit was that she wanted to "spare"Jon and Robert.Can you say excuses?
Rhymes with Witch said... 184
OT. A little humor for a Tuesday.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/26/hound-dog-sneaks-into-half-marathon-field-finishes-seventh/
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More animal humor- a cat that takes selfies!
https://www.yahoo.com/makers/this-cat-rules-at-taking-1349005184524342/photo-too-close-manny-1453730315642.html
Jamesvader1194 said... 187
@Reader Goody does that alot and Gladys as well.Goody thinks that if she repeats her lie that the book was STOLEN and MODIFIED that people will believe her.Funny thing is that Hoffman responded to it and said"Well that should be easy to prove in a court of law".I herd 1 excuse that they gave for Kate dropping the suit was that she wanted to "spare"Jon and Robert.Can you say excuses?
January 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM
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Sparing Robert and Jon is higher on Kate's priority list than looking out for the kids' safety and futures?
Huh? Since when does Kate care about anyones feelings?
Localyocul (#187), when that dog owner said
"I can’t believe she ran the whole half-marathon because she’s actually really lazy," I thought maybe he was talking about TFW!
Tucker's mom said (171)...I remember when Taylor Swift played Kate on SNL. Not flattering.
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Here is the link to a video of that. I'd never seen it but it's pretty funny. I'm not sure if TS is that bad of an actress or if she's making Kate to be that bad. I wonder what Kate thought of her 'friend' TS after that?
http://popcrush.com/taylor-swift-best-snl-skits/
I know I get frustrated, but really my frustration is for Jon, not at Jon. Evidently, there's more to the story about why Jon doesn't see his child.
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I sometimes wonder if the reason Kate doesn't let him see his son that if it is Collin, she doesn't want him to know that he's medicated and to what extent. All hell would break loose then.
I sometimes wonder if the reason Kate doesn't let him see his son that if it is Collin, she doesn't want him to know that he's medicated and to what extent. All hell would break loose then.
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Collin has looked pretty out of it several times on the show. His face is slack and blank, and eyes half closed.
Now we have no idea what he pays but it can't be $20,000. Kate and Jon appear
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We do know what he pays. He pays zero. The source for that? Jon, who has stated that he does not pay child support.
DeckDude Matt will make your day
He even serves the gays!
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I wonder if he has a sample portfolio of deck photos divided into sections, with a specific section for gay and lesbian decks so they can choose the one that best fits their needs.
Now we have no idea what he pays but it can't be $20,000.
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Actually, we do. He doesn't pay child support, as ordered by the courts. I am sure that during his custodial time he takes care of their needs.
His lack of direct monthly payment is what the sheep have been baah-ing about ever since the attorney confirmed that he was relieved of support. Sheep don't understand that this wasn't a secret arrangement between Jon and Kate, with bargaining going on. It would be illegal to do this -- it must go through the courts and if the courts decided that child support is needed, then it would have been so ordered.
The fans just can't grasp this, and you can try to explain this until the cows come home, but they are never going to get it.
I seem to remember some sort of implication Jon took a puff of a joint just prior to Kate saying she "had" to file for the divorce for their safety.
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She also blogged that she had to file the lawsuit because of her concern for the safety of her kids. When she dismissed the lawsuit, she never said how the kids were no longer in danger.
@Reader Goody does that alot and Gladys as well.Goody thinks that if she repeats her lie that the book was STOLEN and MODIFIED that people will believe her.
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Well, Goody is nuts, so you can't take anything she says with even a grain of salt. After all, Robert devoted quite a bit in his book about the crazy fan. Of course she said it was stolen and modified.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 196
Localyocul (#187), when that dog owner said
"I can’t believe she ran the whole half-marathon because she’s actually really lazy," I thought maybe he was talking about TFW!
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OMG LOL
I wonder if he has a sample portfolio of deck photos divided into sections, with a specific section for gay and lesbian decks so they can choose the one that best fits their needs.
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I asked the same question the other day after I looked at the DeckDoodie's website. I couldn't tell which was the lesbian deck.
Admin said it's the gay looking one right next to the preacher's.
I haven't the foggiest idea what the settlement said and neither does anyone else. The terms have never been disclosed. So the idea that it was widely reported he agreed to let the children be filmed doesn't make a whole lot of sense since no one has ever talked about the terms
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True. I'd never believe anything that was "widely reported" if it were unconfirmed. You can't make judgments or come to conclusions on widely reported stories. It's just not logical.
Sandi said... 155
FRANKY~
You do realize a few here read at the other place?
Takes all kinds I guess. Enough said!
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What? Explain, please!
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Formerly Duped said... 173
I think many of us have checked out other blogs.
'Nuff said.
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I don't understand this...anyone care to fill me in? lol!
In the interview, Jon said that he does not regret the show because it provided for the kids. He also indicated that there was money put away for their future. He has said in other interviews that the show was a good thing. The only time he hs said differently was in the aftermath of the divorce. So, It doesn't sound like he is opposed to their filming as long as it is not excessive. So, why is it so hard to believe that he agreed to this as part of the settlement? Maybe it wasn't explicit--maybe he just gave up legal custody. That is effectively the same thing, and I think he was fully aware of it.
I can see that Jon may leave it up to the kids as to when they see him. I don't agree with that, but it is his relationship at stake. I think it would go against his basic nature to force them. But, if this is the case, then it is really disingenuous to go on a television show and not own up to that, and cast the responsibility on Kate. I cannot see what he thinks will be gained by dragging up this particular time in his life--he comes off as either stupid or passive-aggressive. Or, maybe both.
Try as I might I cannot even imagine the scenario where this man does not see his son for a year and a half, especially when he sees the other siblings regularly. It makes no sense at all. And this child, the one his mother regularly treats with disdain with cameras rolling, what happens when all the other kids are gone? He and Mommy Dearest share meals, watch movies together? There is something very very wrong with this picture. Add to this picture the somewhat hazy picture of his new education program (public school, home tutor, ?), there are red flags flying everywhere.
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Not a fan of Kate by any means, but the talk about C being medicated is really none of our business. She does have legal custody, so I'm assuming, that is her call.
But the widespread assumptions that kids who are on meds are "zoned out", and look like a zombie, are what contribute to the stigma of mental illness. My 9 yr old is on meds for anxiety. It doesn't make him a zombie, it helps him to be able to work on calming his anxieties.
We don't know what the issues are with C, as we shouldn't. It was hard enough for us as parents to make the decision (with our son's Doctor), to try medication, after all the therapy we did (and continue to do). Believe me, we didn't put him on meds to "make it easier" for us, as a lot of parents comment in general.
Of course it's obvious that some of the kids have emotional issues. We can all see it. And giving your kid a pill is not a magic potion. It does not fix everything. Sometimes, it enables them to cope better. And sometimes, it is needed.
Anyway, as I said, it is my opinion that the settlement included allowing the kids to film, and some kind of salary (if it was not already stipulated in the contract).
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No terms of the settlement ever were disclosed so it *is* a big leap to believe that a salary was included. I don't ever recall anything about Jon accepting money from TLC.
Blowing (18)...I don't know what the other blog is, but I do remember in the past that the person you asked about went to the blog that was shut down and commented negatively about this one. Perhaps the same thing is now occurring on another blog, but I, too, am in the dark about this.
Ex Nurse, what you say is a possibility. Jon was all in as far as filming until the marriage went south. I think what probably upsets him now could be that a few of the kids do not want to film and they are being forced to by their mother. I don't believe, though, that he is allowing the kids to choose to see him. I totally believe that is Kate is controlling visitation to get under his skin and influence some of the kids against their father.
I asked the same question the other day after I looked at the DeckDoodie's website. I couldn't tell which was the lesbian deck.
Admin said it's the gay looking one right next to the preacher's.
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lol!! If one is not ordained, may he or she still opt for the preacher's deck or does Matt require proof of preacher status?
Same goes for sexual orientation? Proof needed?
t is my opinion that the settlement included allowing the kids to film, and some kind of salary
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I think speculation is a better word. Fair enough.
An opinion is when you know a set of facts and you develop a take on those facts. Usually the facts themselves are not in dispute, it's your take on them that differs among people. But the settlement is under lock and key. I'm not sure how you form an opinion on something no one has ever seen but the folks involved.
What I'm hearing from everyone else is, we can't possibly speculate about that and probably won't ever know.
I can see that Jon may leave it up to the kids as to when they see him. I don't agree with that, but it is his relationship at stake. I think it would go against his basic nature to force them.
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I agree, however, both parents should be on this dysfunction like white on rice.
They're not, and I don't get why the court hasn't ordered a mediator or counselor or some professional to facilitate all children spending their allotted time with Dad.
I asked the same question the other day after I looked at the DeckDoodie's website. I couldn't tell which was the lesbian deck.
Admin said it's the gay looking one right next to the preacher's.
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I don't have a deck. Maybe it's the rabbi's.
Admin., IF Jon gave up legal custody (not saying he did) would this have any bearing on him being able to enforce the children visiting him? For instance with no legal custody could he still go to court to enforce visitation? And if the court ordered visitation was not being met could Jon call the police and tell Kate to bring the kids to his car?
I know Kate has always had primary and physical custody, isn't that correct? Thanks!
We do know what he pays. He pays zero. The source for that? Jon, who has stated that he does not pay child support.
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Wasn't it on the View with Barbara Walters that Jon said he did not pay any child support?
Leslie said... 25
Admin., IF Jon gave up legal custody (not saying he did) would this have any bearing on him being able to enforce the children visiting him? For instance with no legal custody could he still go to court to enforce visitation? And if the court ordered visitation was not being met could Jon call the police and tell Kate to bring the kids to his car?
I know Kate has always had primary and physical custody, isn't that correct? Thanks!
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Great question. I think Kate has legal custody, which gives her the power to decide things like school and medical care. Maybe she has leverage if she claims the child would be negatively impacted if forced to see Jon. Maybe she has authority to veto a child visit?
What I'm pretty darn sure about is if any child refuses to see Jon, that would be fine and dandy with her. More than fine and dandy.
Admin., IF Jon gave up legal custody (not saying he did) would this have any bearing on him being able to enforce the children visiting him?
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None whatsoever. Legal custody is medical, educational, religious decisions, etc. Not time with your children.
I have kind of had experience with Jon saying the courts won't do anything. If you don't have a judge who doesn't get excited when parents don't follow court orders, it can be like pulling teeth. Many judges are afraid to hold someone in contempt because it's a complicated process and easy to screw up. Hence they will drag you through years of litigation refusing to hold the offending parent accountable. And then I've been in front of judges who will hold people in contempt all the time, even attorneys! Some are comfortable with it, some aren't. It sounds like he drew the short straw, which is a real shame.
But, you have another remedy. The. police. I do not know what his objection is to calling the police, I can only assume he's worried it will make things worse. But if I were advising him, I would say you've got to do it. You've got to call when Kate doesn't follow the court orders. If she sends four kids down the driveway and your family law order entitles you to eight, you call the police. The police are usually quicker, simpler and cheaper than trying to go through the courts get a court date and complain about what happened on a Friday six weeks ago.
Leslie said... 28
Admin., IF Jon gave up legal custody (not saying he did) would this have any bearing on him being able to enforce the children visiting him? For instance with no legal custody could he still go to court to enforce visitation? And if the court ordered visitation was not being met could Jon call the police and tell Kate to bring the kids to his car?
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Thats what's confusing me. She has sole legal custody but that is separate from physical custody. She must not have sole physical or he would never get them at all. He says there is an agreement of every other weekend and one evening a week. Unless the agreement specifies that the kids can decide wether to go,it doesn't make sense.
I know Kate has always had primary and physical custody, isn't that correct? Thanks!
I don't have a deck. Maybe it's the rabbi's.
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Hi there, KY! Is a rabbi's deck built any differently than a preacher's deck other than the designated area for the chuppah?
What I'm hearing from everyone else is, we can't possibly speculate about that and probably won't ever know.
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Right. Nor should we. If those involved wanted the terms of settlement to be known, it would have been made public.
Maybe she has authority to veto a child visit?
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My understanding is most jurisdictions do not give a mother that power.
In California you are not supposed to allow a parent, child, or even a therapist to veto visitation. It's a violation of the separation of powers doctrine. The JUDGE has sole discretion as to whether visits will occur and under what terms, and must make a finding of "detriment to the child" if no visits are ordered, but may base the decision on the recommendations of the child's wishes and the therapist. The judge may not, however, delegate them the power to decide that.
Remember separation of powers from 12th grade civics? :)
I looked up when Jon was on the View and found this comment on this blog. BTW it was the end of Sept. 2013.
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"He said that Kate has primary legal custody which includes school, medical, etc. but they have shared physical custody.
Doesn't pay child support, but states he put 80% of income from the show in a trust for the for the kids."
But, you have another remedy. The. police. I do not know what his objection is to calling the police, I can only assume he's worried it will make things worse. But if I were advising him, I would say you've got to do it. You've got to call when Kate doesn't follow the court orders. If she sends four kids down the driveway and your family law order entitles you to eight, you call the police. The police are usually quicker, simpler and cheaper than trying to go through the courts get a court date and complain about what happened on a Friday six weeks ago.
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I haven't commented here in a long time but I saw the clips of Jon on YT and decided to read the comments here. In theory what you are saying is great. I agree that is the way to get things done. However I wonder if it would hurt the kids more than help them? Surely it is detrimental to their emotional well being not to see their father but I don't know if they would be more or less damaged by such a scene: Daddy calling the police, Mommy screaming and yelling and being dramatic(we all know that is exactly what Kate would do), them crying(maybe convinced horrible things will happen if they go, who knows what she's telling them, especially Collin) and terrified, police officers trying to rally them out the door....It sounds like such a horrific and traumatizing event. What if it happens every other week-end? Every single time the same police circus...Maybe that's what Jon is thinking when he hesitates to call the police. I am absolutely convinced Kate would make it as traumatizing as possible for the children.
What do you think?
I am so sad to hear the boy has not seen his father in so long,it's so horrible.
The JUDGE has sole discretion as to whether visits will occur and under what terms, and must make a finding of "detriment to the child" if no visits are ordered, but may base the decision on the recommendations of the child's wishes and the therapist. The judge may not, however, delegate them the power to decide that.
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Supposing a judge is holding a child back from seeing Jon, I assume Jon would be fully apprised as to why. So, I don't understand how Jon seems to be in the dark about it.
Not a fan of Kate by any means, but the talk about C being medicated is really none of our business. She does have legal custody, so I'm assuming, that is her call.
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I don't think that anyone here is saying that medicated kids are zombies, or that there is anything wrong with using the best approach possible for helping kids with whatever issues they have, If medications are the answer, then so be it, and if there is success with going that route, then that's what you do.
What's been said is that viewers have noticed a change in Collin's behavior/demeanor or whatever you want to call it, and one of the reasons that Kate doesn't want Jon to see him might be that if he could see for himself that his son has issues that are far worse than he knows, then Jon might try to intervene and go to lengths to cease filming of that child. For Kate, working those kids is what it's all about, and nobody, not even their father, is going to change that.
Remember separation of powers from 12th grade civics? :)
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Ah, yes, but it wasn't civics. It was POD, Problems Of Democracy. I remember the teacher. We were all scared to death of him. Unfortunately, we had assigned seats, and mine was front row, center. Great for a concert, but really, really bad in a classroom.
The rabbi's deck has been peeled and scraped.
Wasn't it on the View with Barbara Walters that Jon said he did not pay any child support?
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Wasn't there also a statement put out somewhere by Kate's attorney that he isn't paying child support? I'm foggy on this.
The question I have, is why would he give up legal custody? Was it a money thing? Did he get bad advice? Not sure why he would not want a say in all things medical, educational, etc? We may never know, but just wondering what reasons behind this may be?
Yes but I don't think it's "really" the judge holding the child back. I think it's Kate not ensuring that eight kids get into his van when visitation begins. I think where the judge comes in is perhaps Jon has complained to the court, to which the judge may have said something like, well Mr. Gosselin, would you like me to force the mother to put a kicking and screaming child in the van with you? It's up to you, sir.
Been there, done that.
To which the affable Jon says, well no your honor, please don't do that.
Total speculation but you can see how a parent gets caught in an endless circle with this garbage.
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I much prefer decks that way.
Too far?
Post script:
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The question I have, is why would he give up legal custody?
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Assuming he "chose" to give up anything, if things are as awful as he says when it comes to co-parenting, in some cases it can be best to just allow one parent to have legal custody. If you are literally running back to court for every single decision because you will never agree on anything, that can get expensive and awful on teh children.
It might have been better for the children's emotional health to stop the bickering over school, medical care, etc. That is a reasonable explanation.
I can see Jon say she's got them in a great school, I don't care much one way or the other if they go to church, and she provides them medical care more or less--enough is enough with the bickering.
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The rabbi's deck has been peeled and scraped.
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Oh snap! lol Pastor!
Tucker's Mom: Supposing a judge is holding a child back from seeing Jon, I assume Jon would be fully apprised as to why. So, I don't understand how Jon seems to be in the dark about it.
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I am with you on that. Something is missing big time. And you know it does become our business (meaning of course we are going to wonder and speculate) because both Jon and Kate have bought it into the public's eye many times.
And the fact that he sees four of them several times every month means the court is not against Jon seeing the kids. If something was wrong with Jon than he would not being seeing any of the eight kids. But that is not the case.
He really needs to get all of his 8 kids into counseling with him or at least the ones that don't visit him. Something must have happened or been said when they previously visited Jon. Or Kate probably brainwashed them with some bullshit. It sounds like they have really bad feelings toward him. Whatever it is it has to be worked out and he is the adult in the situation.
He is their father and must insist on seeing them. Whatever he is doing is not working. If I were him I would send Kate a certified letter telling her I dearly miss the kids and I want all my kids in counseling with me so we could work this out. And then ask her to set up a calendar when the kids would be available. Send the letter so she has to sign it. That way Kate cannot claim he never sent that to him. At least that way he would have proof that he has tried in future years. Maybe the kids do not know that he really wants to see them.
ncgirl said...(135)
"Milo is doing PR for the final episode hoping her Katie Irene gets a renewal so Milo can continue her CWS.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago
Final show! @Kateplusmy8 10pm Tues @TLC Sage advice from a wiser more discerning Mom! #TB to the #ToddlerYears How would she parent now?
TUES.10pm A wiser @Kateplusmy8 goes back N time 2evaluate those "Did I do that?" mom moments! LOL Can't wait to see this! #Parenting @TLC
Milo is acting like this is America's Funniest Home Vidoes, not Kate being a bitch to her children."
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Now, Milo, why would an amazing, do it all herself, always has kids' best interest at heart Mommy change anything about the way she parented her toddlers?
"'Did I do that?' mom moments. LOL'"? "Can't wait to see this"?
Someone has every possible screw loose, I swear. Who on earth would want to watch clips of a parent treating their small children horribly and then switch back to a couch interview where no doubt said parent is rationalizing and justifying their disgusting behaviour?
Gawd!
And another thing I would do is provide a paid phone for the kids so he could call them. He could arrange a good time for them to talk to him. Something like an half hour or so before bedtime. To me, and I may be wrong, but it sounds like he doesn't even talk to his kids on the phone.
Maybe that's what Jon is thinking when he hesitates to call the police. I am absolutely convinced Kate would make it as traumatizing as possible for the children.
What do you think?
I am so sad to hear the boy has not seen his father in so long,it's so horrible.
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Hi roxy, hope things are well with you. Yes, those same ideas about police intervention has been mentioned a bit earlier. I have the same feelings about this. Jon is so
"don't make waves and upset them" when it comes to the well-being of his kids, that this wouldn't surprise me in the least.
I can see Jon say she's got them in a great school, I don't care much one way or the other if they go to church, and she provides them medical care more or less--enough is enough with the bickering.
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I totally get that and it makes sense. The issue is Jon not seeing all of his kids and the continued filming because, according to Jon, some have told him they no longer want to film. I am sure he is frustrated that he is unable to advocate for his children and maybe giving her legal custody was a mistake.
Having experienced a troubled child, Collin is medicated. He is either on too strong a dosage or the meds need to be changed. I hope his pediatrician watches the show. This sounds horrible, but I see Kate, as a former nurse, manipulating the situation so the child is more docile that he needs to be.
Alberta Girl (#21), thank you for sharing about your son. I can only speak for myself, but I certainly don't think using medication is in any way a cop out. And I have no doubt you made that decision for your son with a great deal of care and consideration. I think people are so concerned about C because his primary caregiver notoriously lacks compassion and common sense in regards to her children's welfare.
Leslie said... 51
And another thing I would do is provide a paid phone for the kids so he could call them. He could arrange a good time for them to talk to him. Something like an half hour or so before bedtime. To me, and I may be wrong, but it sounds like he doesn't even talk to his kids on the phone.
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My ex and his wife were on the warpath when mine was in middle school. He would take her phone so I got a cheap prepaid phone for her to bring instead of her real one.
Yes. Jon may have also hoped that legal custody would be an olive branch, help settle things down and provide some consistency.
It clearly hasn't and yes I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks that was a mistake. Hindsight.
Leslie, 51:
And another thing I would do is provide a paid phone for the kids so he could call them. He could arrange a good time for them to talk to him. Something like an half hour or so before bedtime. To me, and I may be wrong, but it sounds like he doesn't even talk to his kids on the phone.
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That might work for a short time, but she'd hear them on the phone, confiscate it and smash it.
Well, thanks to the Kate Plus 8 marathon, M is taking a beating from Kate's fans on Twitter today.
He is their father and must insist on seeing them. Whatever he is doing is not working. If I were him I would send Kate a certified letter telling her I dearly miss the kids and I want all my kids in counseling with me so we could work this out. And then ask her to set up a calendar when the kids would be available. Send the letter so she has to sign it. That way Kate cannot claim he never sent that to him. At least that way he would have proof that he has tried in future years. Maybe the kids do not know that he really wants to see them.
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A letter sent first class, certified, or delivered by a constable would mean diddly squat to her. She'd just laugh it off. It's not a court order. They don't co-parent. She doesn't give a rat's patootie if he dearly misses them. In fact, she may even enjoy the fact that he does miss them...anything to punish him.
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I'll bet Katie's fingers can't type fast enough to reply to this one. lol
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A really cute animal story from the snow storm:
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I'm off bacon for awhile ;-)
Recent Twitter comments regarding today's marathon:
first time watching #KatePlus8 and can already tell that the two oldest girls are ungrateful..
Just turned on #KatePlus8 for the first time and I feel like I'm locked in a small room with a thousand magpies.#STOPBICKERING
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You do realize a few here read at the other place?
Takes all kinds I guess. Enough said!
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Formerly Duped said... 173
I think many of us have checked out other blogs.
'Nuff said.
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I don't understand this...anyone care to fill me in? lol!
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We've been slagged elsewhere by someone who came back for a visit - & seems to have spent some time under the verandah while stopping by :) ....
Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett 22m22 minutes ago
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Oh, no...here we go!
FlimsyFlamsy said...(54)
"I think people are so concerned about C because his primary caregiver notoriously lacks compassion and common sense in regards to her children's welfare."
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This. This is probably one of the best statements I've ever come across about Kate in general. So eloquent, so succinct and so true.
There is no need to know Kate personally to arrive at this conclusion either. There are hours upon hours of video footage PROVING it.
If it's the realest reality show that ever was as she claims, then what excuses can she come up with now to justify the things she does?
'I'm not really a shitty mom, I just play one on t.v.'
We can snark about her looks, her clothes, her cooking, her media career attempts but at the end of the day it his her lack of compassion and common sense when it comes to her kids' well being that is her ultimate fail.
It's just incredibly sad that instead of facing that reality and changing it, she instead chooses to perpetuate a false one at the expense of her children.
I didn't see Jon's interview and I won't speculate about what he's doing or not doing. Seems like the guy gets the stick from both ends either way.
I just hope he has the strength, the determination and the support he needs to keep trying to do what's best for his kids. They deserve to be fought for.
Preview clip of tonight's episode. They show the part about Kate trying to find out who took the doorknob off the dresser.
http://www.thewrap.com/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-8-tlc-doorknob/
Of course, she believed the girls when one of them said the boys did it.
Then in her couch interview, Kate throws the boys under the bus by saying they said "nobody did it", which indicates they were lying, and then she says "and it still continues to this day".
Kate stresses about how exhausted she was and still is trying to raise her kids.
"“Exhaustion and parenting go hand-in-hand,” Gosselin said later. “I’ve lived most of my life exhausted.”"
So I guess exhaustion will be her main excuse for all the bad ways that she treated her kids.
What else is new?
"'Did I do that?' mom moments. LOL'"? "Can't wait to see this"?
Someone has every possible screw loose, I swear. Who on earth would want to watch clips of a parent treating their small children horribly and then switch back to a couch interview where no doubt said parent is rationalizing and justifying their disgusting behaviour?
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Love is blind. Milo would watch Kate do anything, anything at all.
Question: Would there be any public record if Jon HAS called the police to get her to comply with the visitation schedule? I was just wondering if he had tried and the consequences weren't worth it as TFW is known for never letting things go and always seeking revenge.
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Well, I guess that it is also speculation that the son that Jon doesn't see is Colin. Yet, comment after comment, it is asserted as fact. There is always a different standard when applied to Jon. Anything negative that is reported is rumor and speculation whenit comes to Jon, but absolute truth if it is about Kate.
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Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett 22m22 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME
Oh, no...here we go!
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What will they do on SYTYCD?
Sit on a couch on stage and gripe, fuss, spit, hit, scream?
Too late now, TFW to get them gymnastic and dance classes. They could of been doing that for years, but you were too cheap to do it. They LOVED the day that they got to go to the gymnastics classes while they were filming.
Of course, Milo absolutely love the door knob clip:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
Fired Up 4 Kate Retweeted TheWrap
@Kateplusmy8 LOL My favorite clip! #ClassicBoys aggravating mom! The #NoNameBlameGame & they did it so well!
Kate went overboard blaming the boys based on what the girls said, not thinking for a minute that the boys were telling the truth, and none of them did it. Of course, because Kate blamed the boys, Milo does too. Kate's always right!!
Reminds me of the story of the peeling globe. Kate blamed one of the boys but in the end it turned out to be one of the girls.
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Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett 22m22 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME
Oh, no...here we go!
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Don't you have to have dance skill and talent for this show?
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Yeah, it makes it so much easier to keep the deck clean.
Well, I guess that it is also speculation that the son that Jon doesn't see is Colin.
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No, it's certainly not. Jon stated he hadn't seen one of the boys. Jon himself very recently posted photos of both Aaden and Joel.
Here's Aaden: https://www.instagram.com/p/_epsbESF8t/?taken-by=dj_jon_gosselin
And here's Joel: https://www.instagram.com/p/9lNusQSF8h/?taken-by=dj_jon_gosselin
Thus, one can logically conclude it's Colin who the trouble is with. Hardly speculation. A logical inference. Unlike other things we are in the dark about, there is no speculation necessary on this point. It's Colin, plain as day.
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Well, thanks to the Kate Plus 8 marathon, M is taking a beating from Kate's fans on Twitter today.
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Not only on twitter, but also on FB.
Maybe if those same people watch the show tonight they'll see Kate's bad moments from the past and realize where Mady got it from.
Try as I might I cannot even imagine the scenario where this man does not see his son for a year and a half, especially when he sees the other siblings regularly. It makes no sense at all. And this child, the one his mother regularly treats with disdain with cameras rolling, what happens when all the other kids are gone? He and Mommy Dearest share meals, watch movies together? There is something very very wrong with this picture. Add to this picture the somewhat hazy picture of his new education program (public school, home tutor, ?), there are red flags flying everywhere.
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Calculated isolation and alienation.
Hey here's something, maybe Maw and Paw Kreider were exhausted too. Maybe Jon was tired. NO ONE gets a break for slacking in Kate's world except Kate all the time.
All of the suggestions as to what Jon should do (phone, letter, etc) would seem like an option to anyone who is willing to co-parent and extend the olive branch. You have to remember that Kate has serious anger issues, she is not normal, and she does not want anything to do with him. She is in charge and that will never change.
What might work in regards to custody issues in an amicable divorce situation where parents work together for the welfare of their children is not possible here. Suggestions as to what Jon should do sound good in theory, but not in practice.
OK I watch that clip. She's all high and mighty about the rules against property destruction. It's a freaking screw on dresser door knob. You screw it back in. How about the time she dragged is that vacuum across the rocks or through the twins toys down the steps? She doesn't see yelling about the doorknob as a problem at all IMI. She still doesn't get it. Oh and we've seen her freak out just as much recently with the paint on the floor and whatever it was on the deck that spilled
Apparently, Jon is the only loser in this family. TFW is rich, kids have trust funds, and Dad is broke. Talk about the ruination of a family, TLC. I will forever believe that TFW planned this from day one. She wanted those multiples and knew how to get them. Jon failed to mention in his interview on SH yesterday about how they "shopped video" trying desperately to get a television show. It is pathetic how this has turned out for Jon and his visitation, but most of us know that he "woke up" too late for the party. TFW and TLC didn't renew his invitation to celebrate. The entire story will be a terrific "read" some day when that book is authored by the 8 little faces.
Ps. What's with the clown make up?
Of course, it's Collin who Jon hasn't seen. This was the picture that was shown during the Steve Harvey show:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/22/16/3078A5EA00000578-3412241-image-m-33_1453480601843.jpg
I believe it was taken around the time that Jon had the gig in Atlantic City. The place that they're standing in front of is a restaurant in Brigantine, NJ called the Laguna Grill and Rum Bar. Brigantine is just a few minutes away from Harrah's Casino where Jon did his DJ gig in May.
Joel and Aaden are both in that picture.
Localyocul (79)
OK I watch that clip. She's all high and mighty about the rules against property destruction. It's a freaking screw on dresser door knob. You screw it back in. How about the time she dragged is that vacuum across the rocks or through the twins toys down the steps?
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Thank you. Yes a screw on knob and these were toddlers! Who has the time? I would have just put it back on, but then again I'm a human.
Yep, that is what I thought. I assumed it was probably the twins, Collin, and Alexis are the ones that Jon doesn't see on a frequent basis. But it sounds like it is Collin who Jon hasn't seen in years.
TFW and TLC didn't renew his invitation to celebrate.
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That is not correct. Jon is the one who broke his contract with TLC and did not want to film anymore.
Ky pastor...
Two Corinthians, a rabbi, a preacher and a lesbian all ordered decks...
Tucker's Mom said... 73
Somewhere In Time said... 65
Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett 22m22 minutes ago
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Oh, no...here we go!
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Don't you have to have dance skill and talent for this show?
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You mean like Kate had on DWTS? lol
But seriously, if it's an opportunity for first class accommodations off the backs of her kids, and possible face time, she'll be on this like white on rice.
Kate is a twit said...(67)
"Preview clip of tonight's episode. They show the part about Kate trying to find out who took the doorknob off the dresser.
Kate stresses about how exhausted she was and still is trying to raise her kids.
"“Exhaustion and parenting go hand-in-hand,” Gosselin said later. “I’ve lived most of my life exhausted.”"
So I guess exhaustion will be her main excuse for all the bad ways that she treated her kids.
What else is new?"
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Exactly, what else is new? Awwww poor Kate, raising 8 kids all on her lonesome is exhausting.
1) She's alone because she has alienated every family member and friend who dared threatened "the brand".
2) She's actually not alone because she has insulated herself and the kids with paid nannies, make-up artists, production assistants and camera crews. All of whom are getting PAID to be there.
3) If she's so fing exhausted why the hell is she picking fights with toddlers over a knob in the first place? Make it a learning moment and show them how to screw it back in.
She's exhausted because it's her shtick, it's her persona and it's what she gets paid for. And she probably is too.
But all that exhaustion is completely her choice and it's very hard to be sympathetic. Especially because she seems intent on dragging eight innocent children with her.
Don't you have to have dance skill and talent for this show?
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You mean like Kate had on DWTS? lol
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I thought the show is a contest for actual dancers, not fauxlebrities who get paired with pros and learn dances.
I don't think any of the kids has had any dance lessons at all.
I doubt those 8 pairs of dance shoes Kate got for free from Billy Bush even made it back to PA.
The woman wouldn't even let her kids do gymnastics outside of ONE time for the cameras.
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Ky pastor...
Two Corinthians, a rabbi, a preacher and a lesbian all ordered decks
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Two Corinthians haha
I believe it was taken around the time that Jon had the gig in Atlantic City. The place that they're standing in front of is a restaurant in Brigantine, NJ called the Laguna Grill and Rum Bar. Brigantine is just a few minutes away from Harrah's Casino where Jon did his DJ gig in May.
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Ah, Brigantine. My old surfer's hang-out. Fun memories, even though I was too young for the bar scene at that time!
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Yeah, it makes it so much easier to keep the deck clean.
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Doesn't the rabbi's deck have a retractable awning?
Kate is now tweeting "teasers" about what the kids and she built outside all day in the snow and how she can't wait for her fans to see it.
Has filming already begun for the summer series?
You mean like Kate had on DWTS? lol
But seriously, if it's an opportunity for first class accommodations off the backs of her kids, and possible face time, she'll be on this like white on rice.
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Isn't Milo in the middle of this yet? How many tries did it take her to flag down Kate about a tweet sent by someone...I forget who it was, and Kate seemed to be annoyed and finally responded with, yes, she saw it right away!
Kate even mentioned today she is exhausted. Gee she has a good eight hours to sleep every week day and probably weekends too. And she looks old in that clip. Hard to believe she is only 40.
Doesn't the rabbi's deck have a retractable awning?
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Carrie De Anne @SunShine_Glittr 9m9 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC Nooo now what am I going to look forward 2 on Tuesdays?!?
How about going to the library and picking up a good classic to read, or watching an interesting historic documentary on television?
Oh, wait...
So anyone think the unscrewed knob was faked?
Exactly, what else is new? Awwww poor Kate, raising 8 kids all on her lonesome is exhausting.
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For a dead person, Jon looked pretty darn good on SH! I wonder if Deanna did his make-up.
I know, I know...that was bad.
John_D @John_D_2017 5m5 minutes ago
Gettin my fix of the gorgeous @Kateplusmy8 right now & ready for tonight!
Now this guy really looks like her type. Why didn't they get him for the blind date episode?
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Serendipity (#79), you make a great point about this whole thing: TFW is in the equation. You have one parent looking out for the children's best interest, fighting against one who's looking out only for her own. At all costs. Always. And who has the money and legal muscle to make the other parent's life miserable, and has willingly done so in the past.
Think of how awful TFW's behavior has been with cameras rolling. Now try to imagine how horrifying it might be when they're not there.
That's what Jon has to contend with.
I think they took pictures, no filming (hopefully). Of course, why is she out there playing with the kids? Maybe it was filmed.
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Brilliant! I imagined Fozzie Bear delivering that....
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Perfect.
TLC stinks said... 103
I think they took pictures, no filming (hopefully). Of course, why is she out there playing with the kids? Maybe it was filmed.
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I highly doubt they were filming. For one, today was an unscheduled day off from school due to the snow. Places all over the east coast are still digging themselves out.
I'm sure TLC's shooting schedule is planned in advance, and I don't think TLC would have suddenly rushed up to Kate's house to film them playing in the snow due to the kids having an unscheduled day off.
I think Kate, as usual, is playing with her fans, teasing them into thinking there will be a new season soon. Especially since tonight is the last episode of the current season.
TLC stinks (#101), oh, yeah, she's been MIA because she's been outside ALLLLL day. From what we know of TFW, can you imagine her spending more than an hour in the cold without whining and complaining? Especially with 8 kids to deal with?
Not buying it.
Notice she's Miss Friendly Pants the afternoon of the show, because she wants people to tune in. But we know she'll be "MIA" many more days after this one without a word of explanation. Like the month she disappeared for Celebrity Apprentice, while the other, heaven help me, stars, were tweeting away to their fans and keeping them in the loop. She doesn't give a hoot about her fans, but they don't seem to mind the one-sided relationship.
Notice she's Miss Friendly Pants the afternoon of the show, because she wants people to tune in. But we know she'll be "MIA" many more days after this one without a word of explanation.
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MIA implies that you are IA, and Kate's rarely IA on Twitter, except when she wants people to tune into her show.
Was she outside all day pouting under a tarp, throwing moose dogs and whining about pretending to be homeless?
Oh God i really hope TLC just takes the hint.Milo's CWS and desperation is showing again @MiloandJack 38m38 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Doing stuff like this as a #Family strengthens the bond & love you have there! So important you did this WITH YOUR KIDS! ❤❤
I know, Leslie, that Jon broke (quit) the contract. I was just trying to make the point that TFW and TLC were giving Jon no reason to stay and celebrate anything. It was a big bully with backing by a big corporation against one broken man trying to protect his children. Sad picture, really. I, like most here, don't know the whole story, but we know enough to have quite enough of the picture. Nothing to celebrate over at all. Thanks for the shout out.
@TLC stinks Don't think they're filming,she has posted pictures of them outside in the snow before and didn't mean filming.My guess is a nanny was outside with the kids while she was inside and then decided to take credit for what the nanny did with the kids.
Thanks, Kate is a Twit. Amazing how Kate plays word games.
Maddie continues to be bashed on TLC's Facebook page
by viewers of today's marathon episodes.
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Unless the film crew traveled all night after the school closing was announced, I doubt that they were filming. If they waited until this morning, then they were slipping and sliding on icy roads. We had 100 crashes reported before 9 a.m.
She gets to sleep in again tomorrow. Two-hour delay announced about 15 minutes ago.
No attorney worth their salt would ever advise a parent to put him/herself in that position.
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I agree, most of the time. But I can think of a few rare scenerios, especially involving parental alienation, where it can be the best thing to do for the children and the family. I have no idea if that is Jon's scenerio, I am not a fly on the wall. But it would be an odd situation to have a father with unmonitored visitation have no legal custody--extremely odd. So odd I don't think I've ever seen that before. Which makes me think it was done to try to settle down the conflict, a peace offering, an olive branch, done with good intentions and hope. It can't have been done because a parent is inappropriate, since he still has unmonitored contact. It goes both ways. If you are inappropriate to handle legal custody you would have monitored visits with your kids. Or, you live out of state or something.
Anonymous said... 113
Maddie continues to be bashed on TLC's Facebook page
by viewers of today's marathon episodes.
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Just think, when Mady is an adult, TLC will still be running these episodes showing Mady in a bad light.
What a legacy.
Tucker's Mom said... 90
Don't you have to have dance skill and talent for this show?
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You mean like Kate had on DWTS? lol
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I thought the show is a contest for actual dancers, not fauxlebrities who get paired with pros and learn dances.
I don't think any of the kids has had any dance lessons at all.
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I did too. It's more American Idol than Dancing With the Stars, but requires more training/background than A/I because dancing is inherently more difficult than singing.
The Tara person sent the same or a similar tweet to a whole bunch of celebs (using the term loosely) who have children in the right age group. Maybe she hopes that one or more of them will have kids with actual talent/training. Probably a lot of celebs do send their kids to dance classes, because they have the money and (hired help) time and think it will enhance the kids' lives. Enhancing the kids' lives is not on Kate's radar, unless she can insert herself and/or film it.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h2 hours ago
I'm LIVE TWEETING during #KatePlus8 tonight-10pm on @TLC
Seasons worth of 'cringe worthy' moments rewatched&explained by ME! Don't miss it!
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So true!
Kate doesn't explain. She tries to rewrite history.
Shucks, TFW, if your show is the "realest reality," why do you need to explain those moments? You also told us, "What you see is what you get." Yet you seem to spend a lot of time explaining and backpedaling and dissecting things.
Defensive much?
Tara Triplett @Taradtriplett · 3m3 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8#kids #SoYouThinkYouCanDanceNextGeneration on #FOX #castingkids (8-13)we would love to have the kids on!!! DM ME
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Tara Triplett is sending the same message to any "star" that has kids. As far as I know you've got to be a somewhat accomplished dancer to appear on SYTYCD. I'm sure the show is looking for kids more of the Dance Moms kids ilk. The draw of the show is that the kids are so talented.
Saw that it was a cyber day for the HS and middle school kids at their school. I wonder how it was handled at the house. Probably with a lot of screeching and gnashing of the teeth!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Just a bit excited that MAYBE @TLC crew was there #MakingMemories w/you all? ❤ #TodaysSnowDay
Good grief, Glady. Can't the kids have any unspoiled, spontaneous fun days off without a film crew?
She's insane.
I wouldn't put it past Kate to push filming with this windfall of snow.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Just a bit excited that MAYBE @TLC crew was there #MakingMemories w/you all? ❤ #TodaysSnowDay
Milo's already getting excited about a new season. Several other fans are hoping that they're filming too.
Don't they ever get tired of Kate's childish teasing?
I remember back in March 2013, when Kate was going on about a big, big surprise and her sheeple all assumed that she was finally going to back on the air. Then it turned out that the big announcement was her cookbook. I'm sure there were many disappointed fans when she announced that.
Kate is probably going to do a blog post with pictures showing what they did today. She doesn't have time right now to do it, because she's hyping the show and getting ready for her tweet fest. She won't tweet a picture because she likes to tease and that would spoil it.
So I predict in the next day or so she'll have a new blog post up.
Here's another one for Kate. Where are these guys when you need them? Good-looking dude! lol!
David Rivera @DavytheThird
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC I will be watching!! 👀
David Rivera @DavytheThird
#MyTruthSerumConfession don't push my buttons to long or I will get very very violent on you
I'm sure there were many disappointed fans when she announced that.
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Not the ones who were waiting with bated breath for that greasy sausage casserole and the lemon hummus recipe!
Apparently tonight's episode was the brain child of Kate and Deanna.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago
HEY! Last Tues #KatePlus8 episode was NOT THE SEASON FINALE! It's TONIGHT! All NEW #KatePlus8 at 10pm on @TLC Tonight! #MyALLTimeFavorite1
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting · 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC This is going to be a really good one!!!!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 38m38 minutes ago
@deannatweeting @TLC I know! Our brain child&new favorite episode is about to air..I can't wait! It's so funny, meaningful, insightful&fun!
Funny and fun? I'm sure the kids thought that their mother torturing them, screaming at them, and threatening them was anything but funny or fun.
Good grief, Glady. Can't the kids have any unspoiled, spontaneous fun days off without a film crew?
She's insane.
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...and a lonely, pathetic man/woman lusting after a rockin' bikini body, firm figure and amazing physique.
Why Do Fools Fall In Love?
Tucker's Mom (#122), so first Gladys praises TFW for strengthening family bonds by playing outside. But in the next breath, she wants to watch this family bonding for her own enjoyment? They're not a freaking circus act - they're a family.
"Our brain child?" Rehashing old clips and talking about them is a fresh new idea TFW and Deanna are taking credit for?
Barb Gilman said... 121
Saw that it was a cyber day for the HS and middle school kids at their school. I wonder how it was handled at the house. Probably with a lot of screeching and gnashing of the teeth!
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Doesn't MS start at 6th grade? The tups are only in 5th grade, so the cyber day only applied to the twins.
The description for tonight's episode: "Kate watches her younger self in clips from previous seasons and discusses her evolution as a mother and a person".
Well, this should be fun.
I really hope Karma knocks milo in the face.Because all her tweets today just shows how desperate she's hoping for more seasons.It sounds like she wants to give jon a big FU for what happen yesterday.
Tucker's Mom said... 122
I wouldn't put it past Kate to push filming with this windfall of snow.
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That was my feeling, too. Knowing the kids would be off, she probably placed a call to the producer yesterday and they sent the crew out from Maryland, hazardous travel or not.
And I do wonder what beach resort TLC will send them to for the Spring Break film-o-rama this year??
Kate tweeted this last week:
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8 · Jan 19
You can't miss next weeks season finale! It's my second favorite after my Blind Date! #SageAdvice @TLC #KatePlus8
Then tonight she tweets:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 3h3 hours ago
HEY! Last Tues #KatePlus8 episode was NOT THE SEASON FINALE! It's TONIGHT! All NEW #KatePlus8 at 10pm on @TLC Tonight! #MyALLTimeFavorite1
So which is it, Kate? Last week, the blind date episode was your favoritest episode and now this week's episode it your "all time" favoritest episode.
Guess she forgot what she tweeted last week. Must be that she's so exhausted from being out ALL DAY in the snow that her memory short-circuited.
Milo better watch out. Deanna's taking her place in defending Kate:
Brian @Oil_Xperts · 36m36 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC give jon his kids, ur a horrible parent and person ur kids will hate u for the damage u have caused
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting · 2m2 minutes ago
@Oil_Xperts @Kateplusmy8 @TLC You never know the real story unless U are in a situation & I can say U really don't know the truth here.
Doesn't the rabbi's deck have a retractable awning?
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I haven't looked.
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