Kate, Mady and Cara will be in attendance at TLC's promotional event today in Chicago.
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/tlc-summer-block-party/about-block-party/
Saturday, July 16, 2016
TLC Block Party
Kate, Mady and Cara will be in attendance at TLC's promotional event today in Chicago.
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/tlc-summer-block-party/about-block-party/
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1480 Newer› Newest»Layla said... 192
One thing wrong with getting puppies for filming purposes is that it's a one-time thing. Then what?
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B roll filler.
This is the root of her resentment, though it will never, ever cross her lips. She's furious with him because without him she show just isn't as good.
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Yes, you have that right. She thought he would cave and go along with whatever she wanted (to continue filming). He gave her the surprise of her life, though, and you just don't do that to Kate. She gambled, took the chance that he was bluffing about giving up the show. She lost, and she will always hold that against him, and that's the bottom line.
OT for Tucker's...
How are your pups enjoying this day? Mine stuck their noses out the door, looked at me, like "You're kidding me, right?"
Thundering right now, but it doesn't look like it will be a cool down for us.
The Porn Fest is back on Kate's Twitter. Better get on that, Gladys! Maybe she's hoping that there will be some photos of Kate luxuriating in a bubble bath! She does have a fantasy about that.
PA Dutch Mom said... 3
OT for Tucker's...
How are your pups enjoying this day? Mine stuck their noses out the door, looked at me, like "You're kidding me, right?"
Thundering right now, but it doesn't look like it will be a cool down for us.
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We're walking the dogs for 10 min. max, and no running in the yard in ignoring me when I call! We had some big, puffy clouds which gloriously blocked the sun while we were at the pool, but alas, it's sunny as all get-out now and beyond Africa hot.
Ugh!
DH actually gave our lab a bath on the deck, and she has never been so well behaved. I'm guessing the water felt really good.
PA Dutch Mom said... 4
The Porn Fest is back on Kate's Twitter. Better get on that, Gladys!
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OMG, my eyes, MY EYES!
I never watched Sister Wives. The whole idea of one man having several wives is beyond disgusting and an embarrassment for today's modern woman. If TLC has scrapped the next season, then good riddance. What do they expect when you make famous society's oddballs? And just like Kate, Kody got that taste of fame and money, and desperation of filming.
I have no clue what is going on with the airing of Kate Plus 8, but surely someone has figured out that it's beyond stale. Even the addition of puppies does not justify paying that shrew $40k per episode. Really, after all the money she has made surely she has enough to raise those kids to adulthood and live comfortably in retirement. At least that would be the case if you were not a fame whore.
I never watched Sister Wives. The whole idea of one man having several wives is beyond disgusting and an embarrassment for today's modern woman. \
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I've seen a handful of episodes, though haven't watched in awhile. I think the family makes some good points about why this arrangement is good for them. The childcare, the support, being able to have a big family in a more economical way.
I have noticed too though that the arrangement seems to cause a lot of jealousy and resentment among the women no matter how much they insist this is right for them. Much more than jealousy one might find in relationships with just two people to the point where it's very painful to watch.
Bottom line though, is these are consenting adults who want to love in a way that is best for them, and I think we need to let them do so as long as it's not causing abuse to the children or hurting others. I think it's a tough argument to make when you are pro gay marriage, but draw the line at polygamy. If the argument for gay marriage is consenting adults should be able to love who they want, so too then should polygamy be legal.
I wonder who came up with the idea of Kate saying she is a horrible mother in the "I Am" commercial. Surely it wasn't her. She has claimed time and again that she pays no attention to what her critics say about her. So it must have been TLC's idea. How did she feel, having to go on camera and repeat something that her "haters" say about her? Having to publicly acknowledge her critics must have infuriated her--but it was better than facing the prospect of not being filmed at all for the campaign. No wonder she looked so mad in every shot of that commercial.
TLC had to have known that saying such a thing would really make her mad--but they did it anyway. And the shot where the kids are with her shows the kids running away from her. Too funny!
Oh, yeah, TLC is in the driver's seat now. I doubt that she is happy about that at all, which kind of makes me giggle.
TLC stinks said... 7
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Amen to everything you wrote.
Can you imagine being a woman, or worse yet, a mother taking her daughter to see this guy (
and his wives) who would set women back hundreds of years? Who treats the vow of marriage so profanely? Who seeks to bed and marry ever younger women to add to his collection? While his other wives get less and less and less of him? Not to mention his CHILDREN.
TLC Stinks (7),
I seriously doubt that TLC is still paying her $40K per episode. Ratings are not good, and she is completely at their mercy. If they told her they would film--but only pay her, say, $25K per episode, what choice does she have? She had 2 1/2 years to find someone else to film her family. Nobody wanted to. If TLC bails on her, she has nothing. And I think at this point, they know it. Her episodes are not airing. We all know that is not her choice. She is no longer in the driver's seat. And she never will be again.
I think it's a tough argument to make when you are pro gay marriage, but draw the line at polygamy. If the argument for gay marriage is consenting adults should be able to love who they want, so too then should polygamy be legal.
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My nit to pick with your post (do more nits come out when it's HOT?) on that is that I truly, truly, TRULY believe that the women involved are diminished as human beings, and they really feel this way and don't want to be. The first wife is cut the absolute deepest, and whose very person is denigrated when she must stand by knowing her husband is having carnal knowledge of another woman, over and over and over again.
This, to me, is a cult, and those inside might be consenting in as much as they appear to consent, but, their core is very, very damaged, and it's a classic uneven playing field where the weaker person is victimized by the stronger one.
OTOH, some women live in "polyamory" relationships and open marriages and this is very different than their "religion" calling for them to OBEY their husband and idly stand by as he takes his umpteenth wife.
Sure, if a woman like threesomes, or even loves the idea of her husband getting it on with another lady, and loves the idea that she can also be with other men (and/or women), then sure, have a blast. Hey, not my idea of marriage, but if you want to treat your marriage certificate like toilet paper, go ahead.
Just don't be pious about it and tell me God told you to do it. Don't call it religion.
Sorry to rant...it's the heat!! Thanks for letting me weigh in. Great conversations come from conversations about TLC's "talent".
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How did she feel, having to go on camera and repeat something that her "haters" say about her?
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Vindicated and once again able to push the narrative that we're all wrong about her. She's a nut that hasn't been cracked (after 10+ years of filming her life), has depths that have not been plumbed and is "more than meets the eye".
Honey, those tires have been kicked a million times. We've got a good sense that you really, truly, deep down, do not believe you've done anything wrong, let alone are a bad mother.
@TLC Stinks I honestly thought July would be the month TLC aired Kate's episodes.If there's nothing in August then something must be up.So TLC is cancelling another show?So far TLC had to cancel the 6 shows that were involved with LMNO including little couple.Now they are maybe cancelling sister wives and with the duggars issues TLC will have no choice but to cancel that show as well,unless they'll be stubborn.These whole events that happen and is happening should be a wake up call to TLC to stop doing reality T.V.
My nit to pick with your post (do more nits come out when it's HOT?) on that is that I truly, truly, TRULY believe that the women involved are diminished as human beings, and they really feel this way and don't want to be. The first wife is cut the absolute deepest, and whose very person is denigrated when she must stand by knowing her husband is having carnal knowledge of another woman, over and over and over again.
This, to me, is a cult, and those inside might be consenting in as much as they appear to consent, but, their core is very, very damaged, and it's a classic uneven playing field where the weaker person is victimized by the stronger one.
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True. But I think we have to presume that unless proven otherwise, any able-minded adult is able to consent both to a relationship and to a marriage.
All types of relationships sometimes have adults who are brainwashed into them or there is some kind of power imbalance, including male-female marriages and gay marriages. That's sadly not unique to polygamy.
True. But I think we have to presume that unless proven otherwise, any able-minded adult is able to consent both to a relationship and to a marriage.
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Yup, they're adults so I would never aim to prevent them from doing what they do. I just don't believe women are truly fulfilled, honored and happy, and they really wish they could be...like me. One husband who adores me, and me him.
Equals.
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Time to make the Mussels Vera Cruz. Inside. No grilling today.
BTW, if you are lucky to have a Wegmans near you, do try the miche bread. We're going to lightly toast and butter it, then dunk it in the mussel broth.
Yum.
(ps...I totally absconded this mussel preparation from a restaurant)
Physically disabled people don't take baths. It's too hard to get in and out of the damn things. (Unless maybe young children who can be lifted in and out.) They take showers using a shower chair and a handheld shower. BTDT.
My personal opinion is that Kody from sister wives is not a polygamist. He's a standard disgusting creep. Real polygamists don't ditch the first wife. They only ditch later wives within an early period if they're not working out. The "religious" kind of polygamy is not about constantly throwing away old wives and children to get new ones. If that story is true about ditching 4 wives to get two more, he's just a garden variety ass.
Essentially any imbalance in numbers in a marriage i.e. three wives and one husband is inevitably going to be dysfunctional.
I'm just not any more dysfunctional than any other unhealthy relationship people find themselves in. Jon and Kate's relationships is just as dysfunctional at the moment. We humans can be a sad lot, finding ourselves in such situations and won't get out of them.
Kody is probably a bad example of all this. He's clearly doing this for selfish reasons. There's a lot of qualities about him that remind me of Kate, he is without question a narcissist.
If you're going to get into an unconventional relationship, it's best you are completely mentally stable, your motives are pure, and that you are not unusually selfish. Otherwise it's just a recipe for total disaster, as it is for that family.
Jamezvader 1194 (14),
TLC is going to be airing its first scripted show (a Tyler Perry show) soon, and also bringing back some home decorating/remodeling shows, too. There is a definite change in direction from the freak show format they are going with now. Maybe they are starting to realize that "reality" people come with a little too much baggage. At least with a scripted show, they can change the story line to add drama and interest whenever they want. That doesn't work when you're dealing with what is supposed to be real peoples' lives. And sometimes, when reality have a taste of the fame and money TV brings, they go off the rails. With home decorating and remodeling, they can change the situations and scenery with every show. With scripted TV, they can make their characters do whatever they want, whenever they want. Reality TV? Not so much.
PA Dutch Mom said... 4
The Porn Fest is back on Kate's Twitter. Better get on that, Gladys!
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OMG, my eyes, MY EYES!
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Gladys should suggest to TLC to plop Kate in a bubble bath surrounded by lots of candles (and men, or women, or whatever). That should pull in the ratings. Milo would soak through a few Depends!
My friend got a bad foot infection when she was 18 and lost half her right leg. She always takes baths. She can't stay in any hotels or at people's homes unless they have a bathtub.
Sorry to rant...it's the heat!!
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LOL, Tucker's. I just pulled up the weather forecast for the coming week and was greeted with "Virtually no relief in sight." Just what I didn't want to hear. I was hoping for a respite with a cold front coming through. No such luck.
There's a lot of qualities about him that remind me of Kate, he is without question a narcissist.
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And a creeper. Is there a clinical term for that?
Time to make the Mussels Vera Cruz. Inside.
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The church ladies would ask if you need to be a Scientologist like Ted Cruise to enjoy them.
Weighing in and saying that seniors and disabled people need showers and should never dunk into a tub.
The best sitch (see what I did there!) is a no or low-threshold shower with a seat.
My mom had an apartment (in a senior facility) with a walk-in shower...with a pull cord!
Ergonomically (yes, I've invoked that...again!!), it's the safest thing.
Seniors=shower stalls.
I'm biased in that I'm not a bath person. In our last home, we had a nice soaking tub. I used it once. Not for me, but many folks love the soak.
We're redoing a bath and I have to decide to buy a regular tub (for a tub shower), or a tub that could also soak an adult.
Tough decision.
True. But I think we have to presume that unless proven otherwise, any able-minded adult is able to consent both to a relationship and to a marriage.
All types of relationships sometimes have adults who are brainwashed into them or there is some kind of power imbalance, including male-female marriages and gay marriages. That's sadly not unique to polygamy.
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The whole thing reminds me so much of a contemporary Charlie's Girls/Manson family. Not that there would be any criminal element to it, but it's the brainwashing and cultism that is frightening, at least to me.
Kody's selfishness clearly affects his kids, some of them taking his purely selfish decisions for the family much harder than others. Moving to Vegas was obviously devastating to many of them and some had problems with him taking on another wife and having more kids.
The decisions he makes for his family hurt his kids much in the same way Kate's decisions do hers.
We're redoing a bath and I have to decide to buy a regular tub (for a tub shower), or a tub that could also soak an adult.
Tough decision.
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We have a huge walk-in shower (without the tub) that would accommodate at least five or six adults (not that we've ever tried that and no, Kody and his women aren't invited), as well as a soaking tub/Jacuzzi. I use both, depending on whether I need those jets to relieve a back ache, or if I just want a quick "hop in and I'm done" shower.
Good grief, I am hot...even with the air conditioning.
LOL, Tucker's. I just pulled up the weather forecast for the coming week and was greeted with "Virtually no relief in sight." Just what I didn't want to hear. I was hoping for a respite with a cold front coming through. No such luck.
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Can't wait until we have this conversation about snow! Ahhhhh........
The church ladies would ask if you need to be a Scientologist like Ted Cruise to enjoy them.
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omg..haaaaa! Mussels Ted Cruz. Dear lawd! What would that taste like?
We have a huge walk-in shower (without the tub) that would accommodate at least five or six adults (not that we've ever tried that and no, Kody and his women aren't invited), as well as a soaking tub/Jacuzzi. I use both, depending on whether I need those jets to relieve a back ache, or if I just want a quick "hop in and I'm done" shower.
Good grief, I am hot...even with the air conditioning.
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Good grief, I'm jealous! How wonderful!!!!!!
Good grief, I'm jealous! How wonderful!!!!!!
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lol!! I'm not sure, though, if it would accommodate Mama June. TLC might have trouble filming that.
When we built our house, hubs told the architect that he wanted a BIG walk-in shower with a bench. HUGE! He got it, but I told him he had to clean it!
omg..haaaaa! Mussels Ted Cruz. Dear lawd! What would that taste like?
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Sour grapes.
Sorry, couldn't help it!
Not to get off topic but I'm curious if Kate gets the star treatment as she used when she goes into stores, salons, etc. I remember reading in Robert's book. The show started to take off, how Kate used to frequent a department store. The girl at the makeup counter stated that Kate stood there for almost an hour asking for makeup samples for several products. When all was done, the employee ringed her up and gave her the total. Kate was supposedly floored at how high the bill was and asked to speak with a manager. Kate said that " she wasn't used to paying for things". When the manager/ girl denied her request, Kate ran off in a huff and said that she would never shop there again. It was said that this department store had personally DONATED THOUSANDS of dollars worth of products in the past to the Gosselin family. How ungrateful and arrogant can one person be?? I can only hope she's treated like any other person.
omg, and these people vote?
Darlene Casto @bigbrotherdar 11h11 hours ago
What in the heck is a #RNCinCLE N a #DNCinPHL never heard tell of it
"Woke up at witching hour again real hot in bedroom, nightgown soaked look out my winda seen a real tall man must be 8 ft tall he just wave
"Standing right under big flower Boosh he did a little jig n waved again n ran off then I heard a real evil laugh got chill bumps"
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I'm not so sure that I want to know what these ladies are smoking, but they are such a hoot! ;)
IWantNobu said... 36
. . . I can only hope she's treated like any other person.
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I imagine it depends on whether or not she's with her entourage. If there are no cams, there're probably no fringe benefits.
I wonder if Kate still gets the star treatment when she's out and about as she used to? I remember reading in Robert's book, that Kate used to frequent a certain department store. Kate was standing at a makeup counter for almost an hour asking for makeup samples for lots of different products. This was when the show started to take off in ratings and popularity. When the cashier rang her up, Kate became agitated that the bill was so high. She demanded to speak to a manager. When the cashier/ manager dismissed her request, Kate stormed off in a huff and said that she would never shop there again. And more, this department store had donated THOUSANDS of dollars of merchandise to the Gosselin family in the past. Talk about being ungrateful and arrogant! I hope she is currently being treated like any other person.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
Im missing sweet puppy tweets?, @Kateplusmy8
In all seriousness, is there a form of mental illness where one of the symptoms is latching on to something and not letting go? Is it similar to OCD?
Do these people recognize that there is a problem, but nevertheless just keep hammering away at the same thing? Remember the Grow-A-Boyfriend and that squatting challenge? She's now obsessed with Kate's puppies (the canines, not the "girls"). On second thought...
Can't wait until we have this conversation about snow! Ahhhhh........
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Well then, I Love love love love this hot steamy sweat til you smell weather then. I hate snow and cold but will never move south so I am stuck with bone chilling cold and difficult driving conditions a few months every year. Atleast when it is hot it can't ice up or drift the roads closed and make it unsafe for me or emergency vehicles to get places.
It was better in Wisconsin today. Rained all day in large part of the state and it cooled some. It is suppose to be better tomorrow.
@Over and Out I think Milo does it in order to reassure herself that Kate is still an animal lover.When Kate started uploading pictures(especially ones on the bed)she kept commenting on both twitter and instagram about things like."You're officially an animal lover or there's no doubt anymore,you love your doggies."
The Quints by Surprise!'s mother looks like she is getting desperate too like Kate! She made the announcement of a new family member, A PUPPY!
A post on a different article about QBS, someone posted that they HAVE to bring them back!
Well, maybe they will because the puppy is here!
Bottom line though, is these are consenting adults who want to love in a way that is best for them, and I think we need to let them do so as long as it's not causing abuse to the children or hurting others. I think it's a tough argument to make when you are pro gay marriage, but draw the line at polygamy. If the argument for gay marriage is consenting adults should be able to love who they want, so too then should polygamy be legal.
They hurt the state of Utah with 4 bankruptcies. Food stamps for Christine while living in the house all together, which is against the rules. Countless unpaid bills. I would say they and other plygs hurts others every single day. Most plygs break laws everyday. Just because Kody and the wives seem likeable, that isn't the case for most polygamists. Check out the Kingston clan that run countless businesses in Utah and are considered the Utah Mafia. They even have their own bank. Brady William's family was part of the same sect as Kody and that's the AUB. Lots of child abuse and molestation in that group. I think overall, Sister Wives has put a better face on polygamy which has really hurt the woman and children living in secret polygamy. There is nothing ok with a man having 4 wives, 15 wives and so many kids you can't provide for them. I don't see the Brown kids unscathed at all. I see an entire family of children who are mostly severely overweight, starved of a father and all the wives are unstable.
This show bothers me way more than Kate plus 8. And so does I am Jazz. Talk about exploiting a child. My heart breaks for that kiddo.
The older the G kids get, the more say I think they have in filming. I really don't think it bothers them that much. They see the perks.
Something I have been thinking about recently with Jon's very slow DJ career, the TGIF thing, I think he very much wants to be in the public eye again. I think he misses the limelight and the money. If TLC presented him something, I think he would take it in a heartbeat.
Sorry, rambling.
KK
They hurt the state of Utah with 4 bankruptcies. Food stamps for Christine while living in the house all together, which is against the rules. Countless unpaid bills. I would say they and other plygs hurts others every single day. Most plygs break laws everyday.
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That's confusing the issue. If a polygamist is breaking the law, like welfare fraud, prosecute them like anyone else. People in two-people relationships gay or straight commit welfare fraud all the time. Polygamy doesn't "cause" welfare fraud no more than same-sex or straight marriages do.
Oh, and I don't think this family is that likable. That has no influence on my stance that they should be able to choose to be in whatever relationship they like in this supposedly tolerant country. We can't have it both ways.
That's confusing the issue. If a polygamist is breaking the law, like welfare fraud, prosecute them like anyone else.
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Polygamy in itself is breaking the law.
James (#42), I agree about Gladys' tweet. She very often tries to control the narrative by saying something she thinks will help TFW if TFW responds "correctly." TFW usually ignores her, but that one response out of 50 keeps Gladys going.
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That's confusing the issue. If a polygamist is breaking the law, like welfare fraud, prosecute them like anyone else.
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Polygamy in itself is breaking the law.
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Yes but progressive societies aren't supposed to prosecute people for who you sleep with as long as they are of legal age. Loving v. Virginia.
James (#42), I agree about Gladys' tweet. She very often tries to control the narrative by saying something she thinks will help TFW if TFW responds "correctly." TFW usually ignores her, but that one response out of 50 keeps Gladys going.
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That's exactly what she does! Lol. It's so sad.
Yes but progressive societies aren't supposed to prosecute people for who you sleep with as long as they are of legal age. Loving v. Virginia.
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How far do progressive societies go? Should we eliminate marriage licenses?
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You'll have to ask Kim Davis that one.
Why are you harping on marriage licenses? The idea is to be more inclusive of who can be together, not less so. Progressive means progress. I haven't the foggiest idea why you equate that with communism, which couldn't be more backwards. Bottom line is there is no good reason to prevent Kody from doing what he does yet allowing gay marriage. If you believe government should let adults love whichever other adults they like then polygamy should be legal.
@Over and Out I think Milo does it in order to reassure herself that Kate is still an animal lover.When Kate started uploading pictures(especially ones on the bed)she kept commenting on both twitter and instagram about things like."You're officially an animal lover or there's no doubt anymore,you love your doggies."
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I think that being an animal lover is secondary. It's just one way of keeping Kate alive on Twitter and this is what Milo is using right now. It's not the animal lover in Kate to whom she is addressing, but rather is using this as a means to bring Kate out on Twitter because Kate has nothing else in the works right now.
She demanded to speak to a manager. When the cashier/ manager dismissed her request, Kate stormed off in a huff and said that she would never shop there again. And more, this department store had donated THOUSANDS of dollars of merchandise to the Gosselin family in the past. Talk about being ungrateful and arrogant!
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What department store was that? The same one where they filmed the back to school shopping?
I'm not so sure that I want to know what these ladies are smoking, but they are such a hoot! ;)
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One of them gets "spells" where she can see the future! Too bad she doesn't have a spell right before the mega lottery!
Rainbowsandunicorns said...54
Anybody that would walk into a department store, stay at the makeup counter for an hour looking and trying everything and saying, I'll get this and I'll get that or I'll take 2 of these and when the total comes she asks to speak to a manager because she thought they were going to bag it up and just hand it to her?
For her to stand there and say that she was not shopping at that particular store ever again takes gall, massive gall after they were so generous to her. When she said she was never shopping there again, she meant it. They were no more use to her, even when they had given her THOUSANDS of dollars of free stuff for years.
I am surprised that she didn't bring 2 Men and a Truck along with her to load up her shopping bags that day and walk out without paying.
Her big balloon got burst that day!
She is such a thief.
Uh oh,milo is getting antsy with TLC.Though i doubt very much TLC is paying any attention to any of Kate's fans,especially an obsessive one like her.No matter how hard she tries to convince TLC that Kate is popular.
Fired Up 4 Kate
@MiloandJack
Golly gee @TLC! How long U going 2extend the wait for #KatePlus8? These kids will be grown & off 2college soon! #Unrecognizable @Kateplusmy8
Uh oh,milo is getting antsy with TLC.Though i doubt very much TLC is paying any attention to any of Kate's fans,especially an obsessive one like her.No matter how hard she tries to convince TLC that Kate is popular.
Fired Up 4 Kate
@MiloandJack
Golly gee @TLC! How long U going 2extend the wait for #KatePlus8? These kids will be grown & off 2college soon! #Unrecognizable @Kateplusmy8
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Milo doesn't give a rat's rear end about the kids. Come on, Gladys. Call a spade a spade. You want to see Kate. At least admit it and be honest about it. The kids *should* be unrecognizable. They weren't put here for your enjoyment and voyeurism. I sometimes think that maybe some of the fans are perceptive enough to see it and maybe there is just a threat of critical thinking among them. Then Milo comes a pestering with her annoying tweets to TLC and Kate and my hopes that these people have an ounce of intelligence is just thrown out the window.
Kate's Twitter is pretty much dead. Even the haters aren't coming out to play today. TFW hasn't done anything on Instagram since her PF Chang picture. If TLC or anyone else looks at social media it doesn't look like TFW has very many fans at all.
PA Dutch (37): "I'm not so sure that I want to know what these ladies are smoking, but they are such a hoot! ;)"
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Now you have me checking them out! They really do have problems with names, but it's better than a daytime soap! They are real people!
Patty Parsons @PattyParsonsPat 22h22 hours ago
Tim mckaine is a cutie good job Hilary
Uh, is she confusing him with John McCain? In college, John was one gorgeous guy. He could have been a male model! Now HE was a cutie!
Bottom line is there is no good reason to prevent Kody from doing what he does yet allowing gay marriage. If you believe government should let adults love whichever other adults they like then polygamy should be legal.
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Your opinion is not the bottom line and is a very simplistic take on a complex issue. There are many reasons to argue against polygamy that have nothing to do with dictating who can and cannot love each other.
Your opinion is not the bottom line and is a very simplistic take on a complex issue. There are many reasons to argue against polygamy that have nothing to do with dictating who can and cannot love each other.
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And almost all of those arguments bear a striking resemblance to the arguments against gay marriage.
'Sister Wives' " Polygamy Law in Federal Court
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/16/sister-wives-defeat-polygamy-law-in-federal-court
and I began to wonder why have marriage licenses at all.
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Why have it at all I suppose. But for lots of couples, especially gay couples, having their state sanction their marriage as legitimate like everyone else's means everything in the world. Everything in the world.
Communism is pretty far removed from relevancy these days not just from millennials but lots of people even in their 30's and 40's. It's not just young people who don't associate communism with anything much less progressive thinking. Progressive is not associated with any party any more, it just means society moving forward in a positive social direction, i.e. gay marriage, women's rights, rights of the disabled, not bothering people having sex with adults in their homes, etc. Generally, civilized societies want to move forward in a more tolerant and fair direction and move on from times when society has been more discriminatory.
I am not a millennial, far from it, but I have absolutely no memory of America's issues with communism. It was a long time ago. For me, I read it in the history books. I enjoyed Trumbo.
Are you Sue Buddy. You sound JUST like her.
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And almost all of those arguments bear a striking resemblance to the arguments against gay marriage.
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No, actually, many of them do not. I don't think you know what those arguments are or you wouldn't be making such false claim. Or maybe you would.
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I'm very aware. You just don't seem to be. I study the counter-points before taking a stance on such an important issue. Most are speculative, not based in fact, and nothing has persuaded me. They almost all sound just like gay marriage arguments.
This is the thing, people don't like polygamy because it's icky. Why not just admit that, and stop trying to rationalize it? I would have respected the anti-gay and anti-poly crowd a lot more if they just admit, all right, it's just about us finding this all quite icky. Fine, you think it's icky. Fair enough!
OT from the east coast heat wave. Tim Kaine is a wonderful person who is dedicated to public service. We met him in person over fifteen years ago, working on a committee on a community project. He is really as nice as he seems. He has experience working with diverse groups to get things done on a local and state level, and he actively works toward compromise to get things done in congress. Tim describes himself as boring. It's boring in a GOOD way!
That is good to hear Joy. I'm getting good vibes from him, sincere. It was quite fought out, someone who struggles with likeabilty going for an extremely likable, affable running mate. One of those guys where even though you don't like his politics you'd still happily play a round of golf with. I didn't understand it at first, now I get it. Well played.
By the time TLC airs Kate, those puppies will be adult dogs, LOL. It's a good sign she has been pushed aside in 2016. When the "I Am" campaign was announced in March, she was mentioned and contractually TLC had to let her show up I suppose. Looks like rather than officially cancelling, they have gone the route of if there is a time slot they will use the material, which they own, as needed to fill air time. She took a gamble that the puppies would be filmed, which I feel they were, but TLC does not have any interest this summer in airing her boring trips, puppies or home improvements. If nothing airs by September, her run may finally be over.
FYI, looks like Jazz stole Kate's thunder about the twins learning to drive. There's a clip of her with dad in a car.
Golly gee @TLC! How long U going 2extend the wait for #KatePlus8? These kids will be grown & off 2college soon! #Unrecognizable @Kateplusmy8
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Love the desperation! Milo's got the DT's from K+8 withdrawal. If only those kids were unrecognizable.
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James (#42), I agree about Gladys' tweet. She very often tries to control the narrative by saying something she thinks will help TFW if TFW responds "correctly." TFW usually ignores her, but that one response out of 50 keeps Gladys going.
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I 100% agree she is filler and as of yet there's no place for her. That place may pop up at any moment if some scandal brings down another show, like how they found a little room for her right after the Duggar fiasco. But as of right now she has to sit at home and wait for them to throw her a bone.
My worry is the kids are old enough to wonder if they are responsible for this, and it wouldn't surprise me if Kate blamed them. The episodes were obviously not interesting enough to warrant getting it to air ASAP, and a teenager is old enough to feel badly about that. A child is not emotionally prepared for the rejection involved in this industry.
Admin (#72), your comment just gave me another thought. Remember when some fan sent the twins birthday gifts when they were little, and TFW told the girls that that person loved them? She has consistently reinforced the idea that the fans' love is something of value. She often sends her own tweets out as "we" -- speaking for her children to the fans. Well, how will the children feel when that "love" is taken away? When the gifts stop coming? When the attention disappears? When TLC thinks no one cares enough about the show to air it? I don't think TFW would give the slightest thought to how that might impact her 8 children -- each of whom has a distinct and individual personality, and his/her own way of processing this change in their lives.
My worry is the kids are old enough to wonder if they are responsible for this, and it wouldn't surprise me if Kate blamed them.
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You just know that Kate would make a big deal out of not filming. After all the fame, money, trips and freebies, Kate will always think it's not enough and she deserves to have it never end. It won't be "Hey, we had a great run and have more than we could ever have dreamed of. We'll be just fine"
Nope. It will be "It's too soon!!!! I'm piecing and patching again!!! Waaaaaaaaa"
. Well, how will the children feel when that "love" is taken away? When the gifts stop coming? When the attention disappears? When TLC thinks no one cares enough about the show to air it? I don't think TFW would give the slightest thought to how that might impact her 8 children -- each of whom has a distinct and individual personality, and his/her own way of processing this change in their lives.
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They're likely going to go through what many child stars do when they can't transition to an adult career. The abrupt end of the love and attention has been a severe emotional burden for many child stars, per their own admissions. Like you said they're unique, and the chances that all of them will make this transition just fine is slim to none. Some of them are going to feel it, no question.
Some might feel relief. Cara, Colin. Others might feel guilt. The boys perhaps. Still others are going to feel emotionally unable to process such a change and experience a vast emptiness. I'm thinking Mady. For those feeling the more negative emotions associated with a child star career coming to an end, if they don't get help for processing such a thing who knows what will happen.
Speaking of Jazz,although I don't watch the show regularly, I have seen her from time to time. I must say she seems to be a mature, intelligent and respectful young lady. She is funny but not sarcastic, and although she has depression, seems very committed to her cause of transgender rights and public awareness. She is well-spoken and self-confident.Can't help but compare her to the G twins
They're likely going to go through what many child stars do when they can't transition to an adult career. The abrupt end of the love and attention has been a severe emotional burden for many child stars, per their own admissions. Like you said they're unique, and the chances that all of them will make this transition just fine is slim to none. Some of them are going to feel it, no question.
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Something about taking minor reality tv kids to fan events and signings really bothers me. Mady and Cara are being adored and worshipped for doing absolutely nothing.
They're not special or accomplished or talented in any ways that would make another child famous. They are just normal, average, mediocre kids-nothing wrong with that-who are being treated like celebrities because they're on tv.
There is something screwed up about that, and I hope they truly understand the world isn't going to worship them, throw money at them or give them free everything because their mother had 6 babies at once.
Although, I can definitely see Mady as one of those "Don't you know who I am?!" type of people, like her mother.
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Agree. Wonder how the tups feel, being left behind.
Actually, I don't know if any of them enjoys filming or the limelight.They have expressed their dislike of being dressed alike and they want different clothing and other items when they shop, as well as activities these days. Alexis, for examples, likes animals and plants- she enjoyed the landscaping stuff while the other girls just looked bored.Leah likes long dresses.Collin is artistic.They are not a 6-pack anymore.
Sweeps months are Feb, May, Jul, and Nov. With Kate having missed both May and Jul even though there are episodes ready is very telling. Kate is still nothing but filler to TLC despite the troubles with the Duggars. She can bring in a million viewers for a few episodes and then run out of ideas.
I wonder how much filming they have done this summer. I haven't seen any reliable Twitter sightings of Kate and the kids filming on vacation, but there is still a few weeks before the kids go back to school. Maybe the New England/Mexico/Florida trips didn't bring in the expected ratings and TLC is taking a step back. We know Kate's date was a complete flop.
I have a question for those of you who were around when Kate's show was first cancel back in 2011.How were some of Kate's loyal fans reactions?Because i remember hearing from one of the non fans that Milo was in the hospital at that time and Iwanna was telling people not to tell milo because it would effect her recovery.I also herd that Barb went to walmart with a sign that said something like"Bring back Kate plus 8."Reason i ask is that i remember when TLC cancelled 19 kids i saw duggar fans "threating"to cancel their subscription with TLC when they cancelled the show.
I don't recall there being a huge outcry from the fans when Kate got cancelled. There were a handful of pitiful sheep who accepted Kate's call to arms and put out public signs in support of her show.
Yes, one particular grown-ass woman actually held up a poster in the parking lot of a Walmart.
This is what Kate said to People when her show was canceled:
"Their first comment was, 'No more fun trips?' For them, no more job for Mom means no more trips, no more fun," Kate says. Yet while mourning missed vacations might seem like a luxury problem, the kids soon had tougher questions. "They started asking, 'Are we still going to be able to live in our house? Are we still going to be able to go to our school?' I was not prepared for that."
Kate made MILLIONS by that time. MILLIONS of dollars, on the backs of her children, and she has the nerve to tell them they'll never get another trip.
Nothing can convince me that Kate hasn't drilled into their heads that if they stop filming, they'll lose their house and school and any chance of ever traveling and doing fun things again.
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20531258,00.html
That does not matter. You of all people know the law. They have had more than a 100 years to try and change it. Plygs want the free state benefits to support their lifestyle you want to protect. They are very open about "bleeding the beast", the government of resources. If every plyg Dad was fiscally responsible for all his offspring then more power to them. We have seen the Brown family openly do this in divorcing Mary and marrying Robyn.
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If they bleed the government dry anyway what difference does it make?
This sounds like a problem for welfare departments to get their act together, not marriage departments.
Not for me. I really don't care if Kody sleeps with a dog or Jenelle. I care about the children. And Kody's kids are not the poster kids for 90% of all polygamists. The kids are the victims.
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That's identical to arguments made against gay marriage, which is exactly my point. "It hurts the children."
As I recall, a handful of fans were sad, but there was no huge campaign to stop the cancellation. I never understood why TLC brought them back except TLC could have been low on content to air. Seems now TLC is introducing many new shows and even some that are normal.
I think kids are victims when the parents have too many kids to properly care for them and nurture them. Polygamy is baffling for kids. It has to be! Getting new "mommies' every couple of years has to be difficult emotionally. Seeing your father take on more wives, leaving your mother with less support and contact is detrimental to kids, imo.
I really detest the patriarchal society which suppresses women, marginalizes them and holds them back from reaching their potential. I think once a woman is in a poly "marriage", she's got very little chance of getting out. Options are limited and therein lies the potential to abuse women. We've all heard and read stories,not to even mention what happens to the boys in a society which has too many of them.
I am also highly suspect that these wives think it's kosher for their husband to diddle other women then crawl back into their bed. It's gross and I don't believe that poly wives do not feel betrayed. Ask any woman who's been cheated on what it feels like to know their bf or husband has laid with another woman.
It's organized suppression.
I'm not saying they should be locked up. Not unless they're fraudulently scheming the system. I am just not in favor of supporting legalizing it.
The potential for abuse (of women and children, not to mention, our tax dollars) is a negative for me.
Marriage has different components. Love, religion, and government. For me, the polygamy issue (along with LGBT) is the government part. Anyone can say they're in love and have a ceremony and say they're married. But does the government recognize it? We give certain benefits to married couples having to do with taxes, child guardianship, next of kin, healthcare, life insurance, etc. I think it's only fair to grant those benefits to gay couples as well as straight couples. I'm not sure I believe it's fair for polygamists to double dip on those government benefits. So Kody can sleep with who he wants and call them marriages if he wants but I think for the way we award those benefits he has to pick one wife. Same with gay people. Choose one mate for government recognition.
I believe in the comment you posted, Tucker, that was Kate's concerns she was voicing, not necessarily the kids, and if the kids were asking those questions, then Kate put those ideas into their heads. It's like her saying there were tears because the kids were missing the crew. Notice how she always says their responses are x8. Can't imagine they are unanimous on everything! It's BS. How can those vacations be "fun" when they are working the entire time? The only vacation I can recall that was not filmed was the one at the Alabama beach house and that, I believe, was a donated rental.
Teresa Darienzo @tdarienzo3 1h1 hour ago
@MiloandJack @TLC @Kateplusmy8 I don't know Milo, I'm stating to think they have quietly cancelled. No shows during sweeps months.
Even the hard-core fans are losing hope.
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@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Milo, you sound so stupid! I bet kate hates your stupid arsh. But, you do make a good laughing stalk of yourself.
Is this a cross between a laughingstock and a stalker? ;-)
Stalk reminds me of celery, which reminds me of a Bloody Mary. Is it 5:00 somewhere?
Still nothing on the airing of these episodes that they supposedly were filming? Not on the schedule?
There were a handful of pitiful sheep who accepted Kate's call to arms and put out public signs in support of her show.
Yes, one particular grown-ass woman actually held up a poster in the parking lot of a Walmart.
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My brain is fried from the heat (index approaching 110), but wasn't that prior to the show's cancellation when she ran that stupid contest and one of them showed up on a video, with a bullhorn, or mic in the Walmart parking lot, making an absolute fool of herself by parading around? Right after that the show was cancelled, or am I wrong?
My brain is fried from the heat (index approaching 110), but wasn't that prior to the show's cancellation when she ran that stupid contest and one of them showed up on a video, with a bullhorn, or mic in the Walmart parking lot, making an absolute fool of herself by parading around? Right after that the show was cancelled, or am I wrong?
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Yes, the show numbers were going down and I think Kate knew the show was on the chopping block. She feigned shock when TLC announced the cancelation and then embarked up a "pity me, the multi-millionare" tour.
You in PA should be getting some storms-hopefully it will cool things off a bit.
We might get storms. We definitely need the relief.
I remember when the show was cancelled and informing Milo about it wasn't a good thing because it would impede her recovery. Seems like she came back swinging with her passive-aggressiveness and recovered just fine! Her lusting and obnoxious behavior is just as annoying as ever.
So Kody can sleep with who he wants and call them marriages if he wants but I think for the way we award those benefits he has to pick one wife. Same with gay people. Choose one mate for government recognition.
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That's pretty much how I feel, or close enough. I say sanction the marriages as legit, but structure the government benefits so that you're not double dipping.
The thing with all this about it being bad for the children, that may all be true but they're going to do it ANYWAY, so you might as well make it legit and at least give the kids a fighting chance. To ostrocize a kid who is already facing an uphill battle is only going to make things worse for the kid.
And it should be noted that not all plural marraiges are fraught with dysfunction. Kody's issues have far more to do with his narcissism than his plural marriages.
@Over and Out I image Milo would have the same passive aggressive behavior IF TLC is going to get rid of Kate for good.I don't know if they are but since they're announcing all these new shows that are scripted shows instead of reality shows,i can't image them keeping her.
Fired Up 4 Kate (@@MiloandJack): Golly gee @TLC! How long U going 2extend the wait for #KatePlus8? These kids will be grown & off 2college soon! #Unrecognizable @Kateplusmy8
Teresa Darienzo (@@tdarienzo3): @MiloandJack @TLC @Kateplusmy8 I don't know Milo, I'm stating to think they have quietly cancelled. No shows during sweeps months.
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I really want to see Milo's response now that someone has actually brought this up to her. Is Milo frantically DMing TFW on this issue? I wonder if TFW will chime in and try to put some sort of spin on it. Things are getting interesting in the barnyard.
NJGal51 (#96), yeah, I bet Gladys will take that comment verrrry seriously. Maybe she'll frantically tweet TFW something like this:
"Pls set the record str8 about upcoming season -- I'm hearin rumors that aren't pleasin! LOL #NewEps#FaithfulFans#Can'tW8"
"Pls set the record str8 about upcoming season -- I'm hearin rumors that aren't pleasin! LOL #NewEps#FaithfulFans#Can'tW8"
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Don't forget to loop #TLC into it, because Gladys will hound them if she thinks Kate's been axed again.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 97
NJGal51 (#96), yeah, I bet Gladys will take that comment verrrry seriously. Maybe she'll frantically tweet TFW something like this:
"Pls set the record str8 about upcoming season -- I'm hearin rumors that aren't pleasin! LOL #NewEps#FaithfulFans#Can'tW8"
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That was uncannily Milo-like! I don't know whether to congratulate you or condole you, lol.
Kate + 8 is still not on TLC's schedule. I would think that they canceled her show, but it makes no sense that they included her in the Block Party (again) and the "I Am" campaign.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 97
NJGal51 (#96), yeah, I bet Gladys will take that comment verrrry seriously. Maybe she'll frantically tweet TFW something like this:
"Pls set the record str8 about upcoming season -- I'm hearin rumors that aren't pleasin! LOL #NewEps#FaithfulFans#Can'tW8"
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That was uncannily Milo-like! I don't know whether to congratulate you or condole you, lol.
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Isn't Milo so high up the ladder on Kate's fan list that she deserves a personal tweet from TLC? I would think that Kate's spokesperson/PR rep certainly would get a heads up before everyone else!
Sandie (@@SandieBellz): Your psychosis is showing. http://twitter.com/SandieBellz/status/757515099313729536/photo/1
Fired Up 4 Kate (@@MiloandJack): @SandieBellz LOL My thoughts exactly! They stalk me as much as they do Kate!! What is w/that? What am I to #CC...she loves me! :)
Sandie (@@SandieBellz): @MiloandJack
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Milo does have delusions of grandeur now doesn't she. Not a peep from any of the fans since Teresa's comment.
A Church Lady tweets:
Barbie Jean Sayre
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MUSLINS ain't take n my FLAG!!!!!!!!!!!! For the rockets red CLARE bombs burst in the air gave proof in the night STUPID muslins I'll FIGHT
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I wonder if she has muslin curtains or muslim curtains?
Fired Up 4 Kate (@@MiloandJack): @SandieBellz LOL My thoughts exactly! They stalk me as much as they do Kate!! What is w/that? What am I to #CC...she loves me! :)
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Kate doesn't love you, Milo. I know she said that, but she doesn't mean it.
She doesn't think about her fans whatsoever. You are not a thought in her pretty little head. When she's bored she pops on twitter and USES you to feed her ego, and that's about it.
Maybe Flimsy Flamsy IS Milo. Good job being undercover here.
I wonder if she has muslin curtains or muslim curtains?
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Fired Up 4 Kate (@@MiloandJack): @SandieBellz LOL My thoughts exactly! They stalk me as much as they do Kate!! What is w/that? What am I to #CC...she loves me! :)
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Kate doesn't love you, Milo. I know she said that, but she doesn't mean it.
She doesn't think about her fans whatsoever. You are not a thought in her pretty little head. When she's bored she pops on twitter and USES you to feed her ego, and that's about it.
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Here's a great discussion my psych professor once started- if you feel that someone loves you, even if they don't, do you still get the same benefits as if they did?
Does Kate's lack of love really matter to Milo so long as she is convinced the love is there?
Milo does have delusions of grandeur now doesn't she.
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Is that what you call it? I'd say she's just plain nuts.
I really don't think TLC has cancelled K+8. They have episodes that have been filmed, so it makes sense that they would try to get some return on their investment. Plus they will want to film upcoming milestones, like when the tups turn 13 (and Kate has 8 teenagers in the house! Oh, my, what will she do? No human being has ever had 8-count-'em-8 teenagers at once!!!). Yeah, they won't miss that.
But I think TLC may be backing off from the show and possibly from the whole reality format. There may be more that we will never know about. There have always been rumors of difficulty getting advertisers for the show. And Jon might be quietly taking some kind of legal action. Kate's salary is very high for a show with such poor ratings, and she will always try to get more, more, more out of them with each episode. The show may just be more trouble than it's worth.
Jeanne (#105), I promise I am not Gladys! I am allergic to cats and dogs, so, sadly, I couldn't have a Milo, a Jack, or a Katie Irene!
She must be coming back soon, otherwise I don't know why ROL would bother with this. Sounds like something Kate's PR would release to drum up some interest, this is about the only attention-worthy "storyline" she's got left.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-steve-neild-bodyguard-photo-tlc-relationship-together-event/
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-steve-neild-bodyguard-photo-tlc-relationship-together-event/
The fan selfie with Kate at the Block Party caught Steve in the background, which is evidently news on a very slow news day.
Yawn.
If Kate and Steve came out as a couple at this point in time, I think the response would be something along the lines of, "well, duh".
Next.
Michelle Obama gave a great speech last night. The first thing she talked about was how when Obama was first elected eight years ago, shortly after they put their 7 and 10 year old daughters in secret service black vans with a bunch of agents with weapons and sent them off to school. She said the only thing she could think was, WHAT HAVE WE DONE????
I think Jon got to that moment where he thought, what have I done? Sadly, I don't think Kate has ever had that moment of pause as Kate has never thought about what is best for her children.
Reading the comments in the Radar piece, and someone included Deanna's tweets about Jon and his relationship with the kids. After revealing one intimate detail after another (which may or may not be true, if Deanna's source is TFW), Deanna ended with, "So much more to say, but I will hold my tongue." Too late, fool. And now any prospective employer can see just how trustworthy you are when it comes to their private relationships. Way to sabotage your career. And all for someone who is notorious for kicking people to the curb when she's done using them.
The window for airing the already filmed episodes is closing quickly. New episodes of scripted shows on the networks will start airing around the third week of September. If TLC keeps Kate's Tuesday night schedule she would be up against either Michael Weatherly's (Tony Dinozzo on NCIS) new series Bull or NCIS New Orleans. She would get crushed. New episodes typically air through the end of November when they have a mid-season cliffhanger and write the month of December off for the holidays.
TLC needs to start airing episodes in the next three weeks if they want to maximize ratings before the network season kicks off. Otherwise they would need to kick her down the road to December.
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I think Jon got to that moment where he thought, what have I done? Sadly, I don't think Kate has ever had that moment of pause as Kate has never thought about what is best for her children.
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If Kate has ever had a moment's reflection on the sort of life she has chosen for her kids, I'm sure it went along the lines of "Whatever makes ME happy has got to be the best choice for my kids." She is too shallow to ever try to think outside her own extremely limited box.
Or does Kate realize the gravity of her lust for fame and money?
"They gave up some freedom, some privacy," she says of her kids' on-camera lives. "As a trade-off, we live in a great house on great property, and they go to a great school. I feel they deserve that much. I can't ever say, 'Okay, I did this to them, but now that it's over we can just go back to living in a house where we're all on top of each other.' I don't want to take away anything they've been given."
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20531258,00.html
The Obamas have done an amazing job of protecting their girls during Barrack's presidency. They should be really proud of that. I remember them laying down the law about their stance that the girls are not to be commercialized and monetized. They quashed any notion that there would be Obama Girl dolls, while Kate (and maybe Jon, at the time) LOVED the notion of making an app game based on their kids (in diapers, screaming, crying etc) a la Diner Dash.
very ot It is legal in Georgia to upskirt a woman in a public place. the one cited is Publix. case all the way to appeals court and upheld because of language of what is public and what is private. Apparently what is under your skirt is public Cannot imagine anyone would want to see my bubble butt and cottage cheese thighs and white cotton panties.
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Michelle Obama gave a great speech last night. The first thing she talked about was how when Obama was first elected eight years ago, shortly after they put their 7 and 10 year old daughters in secret service black vans with a bunch of agents with weapons and sent them off to school. She said the only thing she could think was, WHAT HAVE WE DONE????
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I agree, Admin. That was a classy, beautifully delivered, heartfelt speech. For those who haven't heard it, even if you don't love the Obamas, this is a speech worth listening too. I think it will be quoted for many years to come.
Sad but true (#116), I think one of the happiest moments of TFW's life was when Beth suggested that going to the spa would make her a better mommy. For someone who's admitted to only hearing blah blah blah when other people talk, TFW sure had her listening ears on then.
#Tucker's Mom Ok that Heidi person in comments has to be one of the loyal fans socks because i've seen her comment before on another article about jon and she keeps saying how she wants the tabloids to do a story about what Deanna said about Jon in regards to the Christmas presents and she has Deanna tweets about him saved despite her going private.I doubt very much a random person would of saved all of Deanna's twits and kept using them to egging tabloids to do a story about it.
I don't think that is Steve. His profile looks different and where's his trademark blue shirt? But you know he was there, despite TLC and stadium security. Can't believe Radar even posted that although they gave gone off the rails lately. She may have been with Steve longer than Jon at this point! Strange relationship.
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I don't think that is Steve. His profile looks different and where's his trademark blue shirt?
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The guy looks too tall to be Steve and his profile is different, but I also think Steve still always travels with Kate.
Funny how that photo and Jon's (post TGIF) interview-both not current-get blown up at the same time.
Hmmm.
Didi Zare @Didiz81 10h10 hours ago
@katesbusted @ConcernedChick @jgosselin10 @Kateplusmy8 I bet she also takes money from the kids accounts "they get their money when 18"
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.@Didiz81 @jgosselin10 @Kateplusmy8 Yes. She pays all their expenses with THEIR trust accounts. Unlike most parents who work to support kids
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@ConcernedChick @Didiz81 @Kateplusmy8 I'm not defending her, but that is not true! Their trusts are irrevocable, it's their money only. Sry
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I'm fairly certain this is actually Jon, and this is quite rare to respond. I can see why he did. The haters take it too far sometimes, and this is one of the subjects they spout off about frequently when they've got no direct knowledge about it.
Jon (and I think Kate) has said that the kids have trusts. Period. College is funded. He said (numerous times)that he put a lot of money towards trusts that were set up years ago.
Isn't it odd that so many Gosselin stories are suddenly popping up online? They kind of fell off the radar for a long time. Maybe "somebody" is planting stories to stir up some interest, ya think?
Oh, my, if anyone wants a good laugh, go back in the archives and read some of 2011--after she got on Twitter, and through the cancellation. I was looking for the blurb about someone parading around a WalMart parking lot with a "Watch Kate Plus 8" sign, and I also found something I had totally forgotten about! In late April 2011, Kate went twitter silent and the sheep were convinced that she was at the royal wedding. Anyone remember that? The very thought of Kate Gosselin, child exploiter extraordinaire, being invited to a royal anything is just too hilarious for words. Sheeple were tweeting, "If you are in London for the royal wedding, send us a signal! A super secret coded signal!" and then, "The super secret coded message is silence! WOW, have fun at the wedding".
Oh, yes, Kate's fans are endlessly entertaining, aren't they?
Jon GosselinVerified account @jgosselin10 8m8 minutes ago
@ConcernedChick @Didiz81 @Kateplusmy8 no, I'm saying that their trusts were established by us, to pay for their education and such.
Jon GosselinVerified account @jgosselin10 6m6 minutes ago
@ConcernedChick @Didiz81 @Kateplusmy8 I'm not discussing my kids finances and diversification of funds on Twitter, but school is paid for
Jon GosselinVerified account @jgosselin10 5m5 minutes ago
@ConcernedChick @Didiz81 @Kateplusmy8 I don't agree with filming, but they are more than compensated with what u know or have read.
Jon GosselinVerified account @jgosselin10 4m4 minutes ago
@ConcernedChick @Didiz81 @Kateplusmy8 15% refers to the states Cohan trust not the money we put aside for them. So drop it!!!
Well, I guess there comes a point when you get sick and tired of the same lies being told (not to mention the constant barrage of hate spewed on Twitter) about your kids and their monies.
Jon's en fuego today ;-)
Aside, it think it underscores the notion that the kids would be just fine without filming.
Layla said... 125
Isn't it odd that so many Gosselin stories are suddenly popping up online? They kind of fell off the radar for a long time. Maybe "somebody" is planting stories to stir up some interest, ya think?
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Maybe it's just a coincidence that Jon also popped up on Twitter, but these "non-stories" popping up at the same time is odd.
The Twitter bots are back.
"If you are in London for the royal wedding, send us a signal! A super secret coded signal!"
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Well, Kate fancied herself like Diana after all. And her name is Kate. With children of 8...
I remember the notes Hailey gave to Radar Online long ago--notes she took based on conversations between Jon and Kate. In those notes, it showed the house (and the old blue van) being part of the kids' trust fund, and also said there was $900K in the kids' trust (they didn't specify if the equity in the house was part of that $900K or if that was money in addition to the house). But, we know that Kate herself refinanced the house in 2011, and borrowed more money against the house. If the trust is irrevocable, then how could she do that? She obviously has ways of getting money/property out of the kids trust, or maybe it's not as airtight as Jon thinks it is.
Come to think of it, someone quoted above about how Kate said she didn't want to take anything the kids had been given (and specifically mentions the house and property). But she wasted no time in taking money against the kids' house when the show was cancelled 5 years ago. She makes it quite clear now that she considers the house to be hers. I guess she meant that she didn't want anyone else to take anything that she considers theirs. If it's her taking something, then that's okay.
Jon should have ignored the tweeter, if that was Jon. Who cares? They've made a boatload of money. Time to retire.
@Tucker's Mom I love the cherry picking Milo and friends are doing now though.Milo favorite almost every tweet Jon just said and now they're having this little celebration because jon said something nice about Kate.But i thought they said he was a liar? Fired Up 4 Kate
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@SandieBellz LOL And she says I'm desperate! She can't help herself! Proof he reads Kate's timeline...He just #SlamDunked his biggest fan!
I think there are lots of accounts for the Gosselins. There might be a trust that can't be touched. There might also be other accounts with the kids' earnings that can be touched. And who knows how many accounts are in Kate's name. The " trusts" can't be used. Is that old earnings or new earnings? It's all wordsmithing. I have NO idea why Jon would jump in on a twitter convo. Weird.
It's actually kind of big of Jon both to correct people saying Kate steals their money, and for Jon to imply that both he and Kate set up a trust, saying "we" set it up. And further explaining it's a trust she can't touch even if she wanted to--such trusts are very easy to do and of course are permissable.
She still takes "their" money in the sense that she makes them work and that's how SHE in turn gets her work, but she's not actually dipping into their trusts, which is quite another matter.
This is called maturity. Your ex may hate you but that doesn't mean they deserve to be accused of something they never did.
I'm still confused.
Jon replied to a tweet claiming that Kate uses the kids trusts accounts to pay for the kids' expenses.
He replied: I'm not defending her, but that is not true! Their trusts are irrevocable, it's their money only. Sry
Then he was asked: So you're saying that Kate herself pays all their schooling and expenses now? Since she claims you don't.
So Jon replied: no, I'm saying that their trusts were established by us, to pay for their education and such.
So what was Jon actually disputing? He just said the trusts do pay for their education "and such." What else would the "and such" be if it's not expenses? He already said it pays for their education. Seems the "and such" would be other expenses.
So what exactly did John clear up? No one claimed Kate was taking out money to pay for her own expenses. I think Jon misread the original tweet. ???
Original tweets were:
@jgosselin10 @Kateplusmy8 I bet she also takes money from the kids accounts "they get their money when 18"
@jgosselin10 @Kateplusmy8 Probably claiming she needs it 2 "raise the kids" Jon is a great dad. Kids need him
I think that was what he was replying to. But he hit reply to another tweet in the conversation. He hit reply on:
@jgosselin10 @Kateplusmy8 Yes. She pays all their expenses with THEIR trust accounts. Unlike most parents who work to support kids
So the first tweet did imply Kate takes their money and spends it, claiming she needs it to raise the kids.
The tweet he did hit reply to said Kate takes the money out of their trusts to pay for THEIR expenses. That's why I was confused.
So it seemed like he was disputing that Kate uses the kids money to pay for the kids' expenses. I don't think he was actually disputing that. If he had hit reply to the first tweet it would have made sense.
What I take away from Jon's attempt to clarify if that there are trusts. Trusts that Kate can not touch. Jon's intent is that these trusts are for their college education, assuming that's when and why they can tap them.
I think there are probably many accounts, funds, trusts, corporations set up etc. that holds the wealth the family has amassed. Whatever involving Jon, set up for the kids, he obviously knows it's secure from her paws.
So, iow, stop saying that Kate will leave the kids penniless after working their whole lives.
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Jon Gosselin @jgosselin10 6h6 hours ago
@ConcernedChick @Didiz81 @Kateplusmy8 I'm not defending her, but that is not true! Their trusts are irrevocable, it's their money only. Sry
The above was Jon's first tweet. It was in reply to:
Concerned Chick @ConcernedChick 9h9 hours ago
.@Didiz81 @jgosselin10 @Kateplusmy8 Yes. She pays all their expenses with THEIR trust accounts. Unlike most parents who work to support kids
In those notes, it showed the house (and the old blue van) being part of the kids' trust fund, and also said there was $900K in the kids' trust (they didn't specify if the equity in the house was part of that $900K or if that was money in addition to the house). But, we know that Kate herself refinanced the house in 2011, and borrowed more money against the house. If the trust is irrevocable, then how could she do that?
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You're assuming things that may not be true. 1. That Hailey's notes were accurate and/or the truth. 2. That the house is held in the same trust as the one/s that were set up for the childrens' educations. 3. That there is only 1 trust when there may be more than one for different purposes; maybe some revocable and some irrevocable.
IMO, the house trust is different than any trusts set up for the childrens' educations.
If we believe the close to kids trust $1 million figure per Hailey - that equals only $125,000/per child and considering the years they've worked and the privacy they've forfeited because of it, I think they're being horribly shortchanged.
Jinger Duggar is engaged! Leave it to those darn Duggars to top Kate's manufactured drama. Now what will she have to do to get in the news?
Layla said... 139
Jinger Duggar is engaged! Leave it to those darn Duggars to top Kate's manufactured drama. Now what will she have to do to get in the news?
July 26, 2016 at 3:33 PM
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Just in time for a new season of Counting On!!
church lady...Gonna watch n see if ole Hillary gets enough delicates. Gotta love 'em. I must say they can brighten your day.
I agree there must be many accounts considering the millions earned. I believe eventually, when TLC kicks her to the curb, she'll gradually deplete her assets with less coming in and more going out. It is BS from her when she claims the house is the kids'. It's only theirs if she croaks (it's in a trust so it does not go through probate) and most likely she will sell that huge place when the kids leave home anyway.
@jgosselin10: In the future, don't tag me in posts with my ex. It's uncalled for and causes drama. Please respect our children's privacy as well, thank u
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Good for you Jon. Maybe in this case take a cue from TFW and block.
Deliverance,
I explained it above...
I really think Jon's reply was actually in reply to the first tweet in that conversation... The tweet that said Kate takes the money for herself and claims it's "for the kids."
Because Jon then replies to another tweet asking him to clarify if Kate is paying for the kids expenses herself. He then clarifies that the trust does pay for their education "and stuff."
@Layla (129) I wouldn't trust Hailey or any of the Glassmans.Hailey claimed that Jon used her for attention and called the paps to tell them where they were back then.If thats true then why was she tweeting to him alot over a year ago and even went out to NYC with him?On the other hand i don't know why Jon would go out with her to NYC if she was a liar.From the looks of it,he hasn't tweeted to her in some time so i think they stop.
CC said... 144
You see it one way. I see it another. And Jon didn't say education and "stuff." He said education and such. There IS a difference.
And Jon didn't say
Deliverance.
Oops. Yes I meant "and such." I didn't have the tweet in front of me.
Jon clarifies that their trusts do pay for their education and other expenses, whatever they may be, since he didn't specify.
So I'm not really sure what he was saying is "not true." Maybe it was in reply to that tweet. So what's "not true" then? Maybe that the trust pays for ALL their expenses?
But he didn't clarify that either so it just leads to more speculation. Does he mean that Kate pays for some expenses? That he does?
All we do know is Jon claims the trust pays for their education "and such." We can only speculate what the such is.
And no, Jon doesn't owe anyone an explanation or further clarification. But HE CHOSE to reply.
I see your confusion, CC.
I am not confused because I feel that Jon was replying to the tweet that he actually replied to.
As far as "as such" goes, that's a common thing to say. It could mean education and the things that go along with education, books, laptops, etc. By thinking this, I do not feel any confusion. By thinking he was actually replying to a different tweet than the one he did reply to, I understand the confusion you're having.
Deliverance,
The question Jon answered was:
So you're saying that Kate herself pays all their schooling and expenses now? Since she claims you don't.
Jon replied: no, I'm saying that their trusts were established by us, to pay for their education and such.
I take the "and such" as expenses since it was in direct reply to this question about their expenses.
I think the implication from the tweeter was that Kate was "stealing" from the trust accounts. I took it as Jon was explaining that the whole intent of the trust was education and was set up by BOTH of them, thus there is nothing nefarious about Kate, or anyway, paying for expenses from it. He has said many times now the kids are fully taken care of, and I think that this point he should be believed. He has no reason to lie about that. In fact he has every reason to say they are NOT being taken care of which makes Kate look bad not ensuring their future.
CC said... 149
Have a good evening, CC.
I think an element of this that is confusing is that people may be taking "Kate can't touch" the trust too literally.
I think what Jon might actually mean is Kate can't CHANGE the trust. In other words if there is a trust account set up to pay their private school, Kate wouldn't be allowed to dip into it and pay for a trip to Disneyland. It's not that she literally can't "touch" it to cut checks to the private school, but she does not have the power to change the terms of the trust. Obviously the parents (or some responsible adult) need to be able to access a trust set up for current schooling in order to draw from it in the first place.
This is how many trusts works and is completely normal. If someone sets up an irrevocable trust that you can only use money to buy dog food, that's the only thing you can do with it and there's nothing you can do to change it.
Kate GosselinVerified account @Kateplusmy8 2m2 minutes ago
@dsmorto #KatePlus8 is coming back in the fall!! October to be exact! See you again then :):) Thanks again!
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Another coincidence that Kate now pops on her Twitter to finally announce when the show will finally be on.
@Admin This reminds me of the conversation some of you had here before i found this blog.Jon stated that Kate was a good mom and because he said this,kate fans started using this as ammunition that this proves the haters wrong.Although Jon has trash Kate at times,he at least is admitting when she is wronged like right now.I have NEVER seen Kate ever actually correcting her fans when they were wrong about Jon.In fact i never herd Kate ever actually tweet anything about calling him a good dad or at least acknowledge his existence(except for that one tweet she made when she first joined twitter.)
October???? Do they usually announce schedules this far in advance?
Watch, that'll change. It'll be November, then December, and on.
Little People just aired the episode which I think contains the fireside chat that Jacob Roloff talked about was so staged. The one he refused to participate in then once cameras stopped he joined.
Especially knowing Jacob called it out as staged it's obvious he's 100% right about that. It was almost scripted, rather stilted, with the only topic of conversations just HAPPEN to be show story lines. The kids are reality show stars, not actors, and it shows.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 156
Little People just aired the episode which I think contains the fireside chat that Jacob Roloff talked about was so staged. The one he refused to participate in then once cameras stopped he joined.
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Jacob just recently wrote about that. Are they filming and airing that quickly? Seems like Amy mentions that the film crew are there on the farm a lot (on her social media). It's like the crazy filming schedule J+K+8 had.
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If Kate has ever had a moment's reflection on the sort of life she has chosen for her kids, I'm sure it went along the lines of "Whatever makes ME happy has got to be the best choice for my kids." She is too shallow to ever try to think outside her own extremely limited box.
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I think you are spot on and I think kate uses this as her ultimate fall back and cop out.
In other words she takes the stance well it's very important I be happy and content because then that will in turn make my children happy.
We saw this tactic of hers very early on, going for spa days and justifying it as she needs to be happy to be a good mom. (Not that I have a problem with going to the spa in general, but it's an example of her justifying behavior)
She can use this excuse to justify absolutely anything she does, even very poor and selfish behavior, because it's hard to argue with someone just being happy "for her kids." And this is where Kate is quite cunning and good at manipulative spin and backing others into corners. To tell Kate she shouldn't do everything she can to be happy herself is to tell Kate don't do something for your kids. See how that works?
That's selfish and nonsense of course, but generally sounds good on paper so she goes with it.
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 113
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I think Jon got to that moment where he thought, what have I done? Sadly, I don't think Kate has ever had that moment of pause as Kate has never thought about what is best for her children.
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If Kate has ever had a moment's reflection on the sort of life she has chosen for her kids, I'm sure it went along the lines of "Whatever makes ME happy has got to be the best choice for my kids." She is too shallow to ever try to think outside her own extremely limited box.
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I think they are turning this over pretty quickly. Tonight's episode was Molly's 2016 graduation from college, which if that's like most colleges, was just this past May. That was only a few months back.
Which begs the question, why is Kate on such a long turnaround when the Roloffs are on 6-8 week turnarounds?
foxy said... 141
church lady...Gonna watch n see if ole Hillary gets enough delicates. Gotta love 'em. I must say they can brighten your day.
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Delicates, as in underwear? How much does she need for the duration of the campaign?
Welp, she made made sauseege & cabeege 2 nite for Hershel, the preacher, so I guess all is good! ;)
TLC is probably lining up the next season of Jill and Jessa for October, and they'll use that as a lead-in for K+8. As we know, K+8 always has to be propped up by a stronger show. TLC is undoubtedly scurrying to cash in on Jinger's engagement. Can't let the Duggars do anything privately, can they?
Kate GosselinVerified account @Kateplusmy8 1h1 hour ago
@dsmorto #KatePlus8 is coming back in the fall!! October to be exact! See you again then :):) Thanks again!
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Oh, geez. Wait until Gladys hears this. She'll be shouting it from the rooftop, tweeting TLC, drooling and slobbering from now until October, not to mention pestering Kate for the exact date and time.
October, huh? October 1st? October 31st? After scheduling and pulling the anniversary episode twice, why can't TLC be bothered to give her an actual air date?
Admin said (159),I think they are turning this over pretty quickly. Tonight's episode was Molly's 2016 graduation from college, which if that's like most colleges, was just this past May. That was only a few months back.
Which begs the question, why is Kate on such a long turnaround when the Roloffs are on 6-8 week turnarounds?
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Because the Roloffs get good ratings, of course! They don't need to be propped up by a stronger show--they are one of TLC's strongest shows and they can also be used to the benefit of the show that comes on after theirs. I think TLC always gives their stronger shows the 9pm time slot to lure viewers in, then follow it with one of their weaker shows, hoping that people will stick around to watch. Or be too lazy to turn the channel. Or fall asleep in front of the TV.
Welp, she made made sauseege & cabeege 2 nite for Hershel, the preacher, so I guess all is good! ;)
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I can hear Hershel squalling all the way up here in Amish Country! Sauseege and cabeege should clean him out pretty darn good.
I love these women! lol!
In the imminent future, there is a Duggar wedding coming, and probably a baby or two.
Within the next few years there will be Roloff babies, and I think the Roloffs actually are somewhat interesting these days, and that's not likely to change anytime soon.
It could n't be more obvious that Kate's almost perpetually on deck, waiting to see if anything falls through or any scandal messes up the starting line up. She's second string, only trotted out when first string gets dehydrated or pulls a hamstring and the score is 30 up.
It'd be right if the show came back on Halloween.
So she's coming back in October? Are they going to show everything that was filmed LAST YEAR? I guess her mantra is better late than never. Shoe shopping and back to school shopping with little kids may be cute but at the tups' age it's just tiresome. Summer vacation in October? Yawn! She let the cat (puppy) out of the bag when she got the puppies and they'll be six months old in Oct so will they be showing very young cute puppy antics or will they be showing still cute but older (and should know better) puppies? Although, come to think of it, the twins turn 16 in October so maybe the only episode will be a sweet 16 birthday special.
@Fleecing the Sheeple Gladys will most likely have the same desperate type of attitude that she had for the last couple of episodes.She kept trying so hard to convince both TLC and people in general that Kate's rating were good,even the ones that didn't even get over 1 million viewers.I think even in some tweets she got aggressive and started calling the media accounts idiots for claiming that the ratings were bad.
October is an odd time to air summer stuff. I bet she's already filmed the twins turning 16. Hopefully it won't be EIGHT episodes as usual. Although she got the word about October and could not wait to share, TLC can always push back or not air at all if they have better programming. It makes sense for TLC to air what they have filmed for revenue, but that doesn't mean there will be a 2017 season. Her numbers are not that great but someone at TLC seems to believe they owe her something for her loyalty and past ratings success.
NJGal51 said... 168
So she's coming back in October? Are they going to show everything that was filmed LAST YEAR? I guess her mantra is better late than never.
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I bet there is still a hardcore base that thinks the same way; better late than never. Is that number still around 1 million? That will be interesting to see.
Hardcore fans just want to view new material and don't care when it was filmed, or that the themes don't jive with the season of the year, or that it's the same material recycled over and over again.
As long as they get to peer into the Gosselins' lives, they're happy.
He refers to Coogan. Coogan doesn't apply in Pa, or kids in reality TV. He says he doesn't want to discuss kids finacials, yet he does. So Jon. Doesn't it stand to reason if he knows all of this about the kids money, he definitely knows why he can't see 2 of his kids. Jon picks and chooses what to respond to. No one will convince me otherwise that he knows why he can't see Alexis and Collin. And I think it is can't and not because they don't want to.
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Ratings will be very interesting with the show airing in October. She will be up against first-run episodes of popular network shows.
Picking October is telling in another way too. That isn't a sweeps month so TLC apparently doesn't think she is one of the shows to use as an anchor to entice advertisers.
I'm sure she has a fairly solid core of fans that will watch no matter what, but TLC is throwing her to the wolves in that time frame. I'm betting ratings will be below 1 million.
So Counting on announced their air date of August 23. Jinger is engaged. And Matt Roloff announced on FN last night that they were picked up for season 12. And Kate still has no date.
In reply to Jon Gosselin
Sara Snow @SNOWBUNNY_2015 11m11 minutes ago
@jgosselin10 @ConcernedChick @Didiz81 @Kateplusmy8 u just leave out the part that court wont allow C&A to be around you.
HUH??? A court has barred Jon from seeing 2 of his kids, but he's allowed overnight, unsupervised visits with the other 6?
How does that make sense? This one is a nut.
MikeB (#173), I agree it's pretty telling that the show is being aired in October. And that TLC hasn't bothered to make any announcement about it. TFW is more of a side piece than ever.
4rmine,
That's funny, I was thinking along the same lines, but opposite. I wonder how much Jon actually knows about the kids' trusts and finances.
He set up that trust ten years ago. Does Kate have to use that same trust? Does Jon have access to the account balances etc? I don't see how Jon can have any knowledge of how much they have in their accounts ten years later and what funds Kate uses, if any, toward the kids' expenses, aside from education.
How does he know that there isn't another trust set up for their expenses?
I'm not saying Jon is lying. Just that maybe there's more he doesn't know about.
The way Kate alienates him from decision making and anything regarding their children, I find it hard to believe Jon has accurate knowledge of their finances now. Unless there's something set up legally that he has to know about it. ????
As for why he doesn't see some of his kids' I don't know what to think about that. He seems resigned to just accept it, which doesn't make sense to me.
Yikes, the school shopping will be a year old? No matter, it's always the same, bickering kids, TFW rolling her eyes at the counter, spending TLC money willy-nilly ( love that expression,lol. Right up there with hither, thither & yon....)
Ugh, this heatwave is crazy! Our AC units can't handle it even with the help of a million fans. My dog won't walk in it, even at the coolest part of the days.We have a wading pool for her- a kiddie one.
And I think it is can't and not because they don't want to.
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What would Jon have done to be legally denied access to 2 of his kids and still be able to have unsupervised, overnight visits with 6 others?
Why would a judge protect just 2 kids if there was abuse going on?
Listen, I think this is mind boggling, but if Jon's done something so horrible, or allowed something really bad to happen to C&A, then he's a danger to all of them.
LOL. She makes her announcement on Twitter and 3 fans and 1 hater respond. Same for Instagram. Nobody cares! TLC has not even announced anything.
And TLC says on Facebook:
If you can't celebrate your big 4-0 in Cancun like Kate, here are some other ways to live it up on your big day!
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They got THAT right. Not everyone can afford a vacay to Cancun.
Actually last year she premiered on Dec. 8 so she should be done by the end of this year with an Oct. premiere. Let's hope her contract is not renewed for 2017. I really don't understand TLC airing her "What I Did Last Summer" shows, particularly in the fall/winter. It's a trite rotation that they continually film that is unimaginative and uninteresting which means the ideas for filming are hers. I guess she figures if TLC is willing to pay for such dreck, she's onboard because she sure does not want to be a nurse again.
He set up that trust ten years ago. Does Kate have to use that same trust? Does Jon have access to the account balances etc? I don't see how Jon can have any knowledge of how much they have in their accounts ten years later and what funds Kate uses, if any, toward the kids' expenses, aside from education.
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Sure he could. Trusts can be set up to operate under the same exact terms for hundreds of years. Ten years is nothing. If it's irrevocable, he knows with confidence she has to follow the terms. There is a probably a trustee administering it, an accounting of the trust's expenses, and both parents probably have free reign to look at anything and everything in the trust itself and its file.
I don't think there is anything fishy about this at all, especially for Jon to come to Kate's defense on it. He has no reason to do that other than to correct the record with the truth. And the proof is in the pudding, they're all in that same expensive school. How else do you pay for it but for a big stockpile?
Thanks admin,
I didn't necessarily think it was fishy, like Jon was lying about it. I was just wondering how it works that Jon would know considering their relationship now.
I was originally thinking something like ten years ago there was money in it and it was used toward their private schooling all these years. Would there still be money in it? Does future money they earn HAVE to go in that account or could a new one also be opened by Kate for schooling and expenses related to the children, etc.
I was basically asking if it could have been set up that Jon has access to the info and can actually know the money is still in there as opposed to already spent on their education these past ten years, etc. and assuming there's still enough for college. Or if that money is still there for college and a separate one is used for current schooling and expenses while they are minors.
I didn't mean to imply what he said was fishy or that I didn't believe him. I guess I was just wondering if Jon was basing his comments on only what he knows.
That maybe there are more accounts from recent funds earned that he doesn't know about now, that Kate does use to pay for all the kids expenses, or if all their earnings MUST go in the one account Jon knows.
I only questioned it because I don't see Kate filling him in on recent financial decisions if he isn't legally entitled to know. I was just wondering if that could have been the case.
And no I don't think Jon owes us an explanation.
Based on Twitter and blog comments is Sara Snow SNOWBUNNY the 4rmine that posts here?
Seems Sara Snow SNOWBUNNY on Twitter is trying to get Philly Magazine to do a story about Jon not being ALLOWED by the court to see two of his kids. Based on what!?!
Ugh, this heatwave is crazy! Our AC units can't handle it even with the help of a million fans. My dog won't walk in it, even at the coolest part of the days.We have a wading pool for her- a kiddie one.
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It is awful!! I set our AC up a tad so the unit wouldn't be straining all day, but I had to set it back cooler again.
My dogs aren't very 'waterish' so no pool for them. Just lots of shade, water and AC.
Kate should have led in with cute puppy pics before announcing that her show is coming back in October. The response is like...the sound of one hand clapping.
I think Jon needs to not interact with strangers regarding expenses. Obviously, there is money for the private school. I have never seen what the school charges. I think the fact that 8 kids from one family can afford such an expensive school speaks to what the Gosselin enterprise is worth.
I think that no matter what he knows or doesn't know about a trust account, Jon is crazy to pop in on Kate's twitter mess. The Kate fans despise him and the non-fans want him to keep giving info. Either way it's hard to say leave me out of it. There is no upside to getting involved.
Jeanne said... 189
I think that no matter what he knows or doesn't know about a trust account, Jon is crazy to pop in on Kate's twitter mess. The Kate fans despise him and the non-fans want him to keep giving info. Either way it's hard to say leave me out of it. There is no upside to getting involved.
I agree. It would be difficult though, to see something so blatantly false and just ignore it. The statement that started the whole thing was in a tweet that included Jon's name. It's not like he was looking for things on Kate's timeline (despite what Milo thinks). I can see why he wanted to clear that up, but it only started more controversy. He should know better by now. I was rather glad to see one rumor put to rest though...kind of. Some won't believe it no matter what is said.
If Jon and Kate set this trust up in a smart way, and I am getting a feeling they did, neither one of them would have agreed to it without insisting they BOTH have free access to view everything that is happening within said trust. There is no reason Jon shouldn't know exactly the state of his children's trust fund or funds.
He refers to Coogan. Coogan doesn't apply in Pa, or kids in reality TV.
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The 15% earnings production set up after PA investigated them were basically akin to a Coogan account. THough it may not have been an official "Coogan" account I wouldn't be surprised if their accounts were referred to as such informally. Not everything in life is so literal and people commonly throw around terms that may not be literally what they are. What's your end game here?
Admin,
It does seem that Jon does still have access to that account. I guess I still wonder if there are any other trust accounts that Kate set up alone after the divorce to pay the kids expenses. Is that POSSIBLE, is my question.
I guess I feel that way because Jon once did an interview with that Alicia Quarles (?) girl and she said she saw the financial agreement and why Jon doesn't pay child support and from what I recall it was because of something along those lines. That their expenses are paid by their trust accounts. So since Kate doesn't pay for their expenses Jon doesn't have to pay either. Something like that. IF I remember correctly that is.
Also, you said "There is no reason Jon shouldn't know exactly the state of his children's trust fund or funds." I agree with that. However there is also no reason why Jon shouldn't be allowed to see two of his children and yet that is happening.
It just makes me question everything Kate does, and Jon's "explanations." Things just don't add up for me sometimes.
Funny, but TLC.com still says that K+8 is not on the schedule. If there is an October start date, why don't they post it? Also, in thefutoncritic.com, which usually has the news about shows before anyone else, it still shows that the show is "on hiatus or fate to be determined". The only one who seems to have a date in mind is Kate.
Funny, but TLC.com still says that K+8 is not on the schedule. If there is an October start date, why don't they post it?
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You know what I bet happened? She called her contact at TLC and they told her, yeah looks like we're squeezing you in sometime in October.
I bet it's not official whatsoever, and I bet she wasn't even given permission to announce that. That is a suspiciously far in advance programming decision that could change at any time. It's so sad to beg for scraps.
TLC told Kate October but they said October when Hell Freezes Over. Kate is just telling the fans the Kate truth part of it.
So, the show was coming back in April…and then it became May… or maybe June. Now April/May/June became October, but it hasn't been announced, except by Kate, who has been saying it would be "sooonnn" (for the last 3 months). Only "sooonnn" is not for yet another 3 months.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I bet it's not official whatsoever, and I bet she wasn't even given permission to announce that. That is a suspiciously far in advance programming decision that could change at any time. It's so sad to beg for scraps.
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She had to do something to keep them interested, okay, well, salivating in eager anticipation. That's what she came up with. Bless her heart.
It just makes me question everything Kate does, and Jon's "explanations." Things just don't add up for me sometimes.
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That's because when one doesn't know all of the variables, and tries to figure in unknowns, it seems that everything doesn't "add up." It can't, because there are factors that are missing from the equation, especially if you are adding apples and trying to put oranges into the mix.
Does that make sense? It's a super hot night.
The Kate fans despise him and the non-fans want him to keep giving info. Either way it's hard to say leave me out of it. There is no upside to getting involved.
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This is true, but maybe he just got tired of what's coming out on Twitter and sees the non-fans just making things up as they go. I get their point (although the one with the really vile potty mouth is disgusting),but sometimes I just have to ask myself where in the world some of those things are coming from because, in defense of Kate (sigh), they're just not true.
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