Popular "Mommy blogger" and writer Elizabeth Bastos has packed up shop after realizing (with the help of one concerned grandfather) her posts were intruding on her children's right to privacy.
For the hundredth time, if Jon was doing some horrible, heinous, reprehensible thing: 1. TFW would be SHOUTING it from the rooftops 2. the other children would not be allowed visitation
Instead, we're treated to this wink wink,nudge nudge nonsense without a syllable of fact or explanation. And please don't say TFW is keeping it private -- heifer doesn't know the meaning of the word.
That was in response to Kate exploiting her children. Here's the full sentence: She can "go out and talk about the kids anytime she wants . . .She can go and f---ing die."
******* I would have said "she can go f*ck herself", but that's just me. What Jon said (and several other things he's said) was wrong. Should not have been said with a camera (or reporter) there. No doubt. I could see his frustration, and actually thought he was going to cry. Kate blocked him from speaking with his kids for 2 weeks (I believe). Who does that? I have heard and read Jon apologize to his kids for things he's said and done, and recognize that he will have a lot of explaining to do. I'll take that over a parent who's motto is "no regrets!!!!!!!!" When the kids go to Jon in the future, and express their hurt and anger, he will listen and I'm willing to bet, he'll atone and ask forgiveness. Kate? You're kidding me, right?
A comment was just made that maybe C was sent away because filming was too stressful for him. If that's true, is the point that we think TFW had the choice between STOPPING FILMING, and sending her 12-year-old son away, and she chose the latter? If that's the case, is that not the most reprehensible thing a parent could do?
I don't even care if they were under contract. TFW could've broken the contract, paid whatever fines there might have been (which she would've gotten out of anyway), sold the house, got a nursing job, and moved to a freaking tenement apartment if it would've meant keeping her family together.
I was gonna say, if she sent Collin away because he couldn't handle filming, then she chose filming over him. That's just heinous. _________________________________________________________
I think this is exactly what it is. Dealing with a kid who has a behaviour problem, does affect the whole family. That being said, they need to be around the family to learn coping strategies (both the child and the parents), to deal with all situations.
We walked on eggshells around our son for many years, until we learned how to help him deal with it, and not escalate the situation. And that comes from many years of therapy for him, and US.
Yes, kids need consistency, but you can't "prepare" the world for your child - you need to prepare your child for the world (and I'm talking about kids with behaviourial and emotional issues only). And it takes work.
It just seems to me that Kate thinks by throwing money at the issue will solve the problem. Just call Mr. Psychologist-Man to fix it!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 4 I was gonna say, if she sent Collin away because he couldn't handle filming, then she chose filming over him. That's just heinous. September 8, 2016 at 12:14 PM «Oldest ‹Older 1801 – 1804 of 1804 ******* I think making things easier to film (one school with one schedule) factored into Kate's decision, even if it was an unintended windfall. Yes, I think she's that terrible. What I can not fathom is Kate deciding to shut down filming and the whole fame machine for Colin's sake, in order to take all that distraction and stress out of the equation, and be able to devote unlimited resources towards his care. In fact, I think one day soon, we'll hear Kate say that she sent Colin away for the sake of the 7 other children. Boo hoo. Sniff, sniff. Dab, dab.
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I have to believe that this was not at all Kate's choice. Can you imagine her panic at the thought of Collin telling people all about his home life? Food rationing, being locked in the basement as toddlers?
She must be chewing her manicured nails at the thought that CPS may just come for more kids. Wouldn't you think that CPS has interrogated people at TLC? That maybe that is why her shows are not being aired? TLC just might want to keep a fair distance from her at this point.
7. A medical need is required to impatient a person, and the family is involved.
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For public institutions, absolutely. You have to meet the various state and federal guidelines to qualify for placement. They don't take any kid whose parent just wants them there.
Not for private though. She may very well be able to institutionalize a child who could be well serviced in home and would be rejected by public placements because of the ability to service him in home. If she goes private and works it out with them, she can absolutely do so for a child who does not NEED to be institutionalized.
Tucker's Mom said... 7 . . . In fact, I think one day soon, we'll hear Kate say that she sent Colin away for the sake of the 7 other children. Boo hoo. Sniff, sniff. Dab, dab. ________
I said this above, this has already been written into a script someplace. It's all been carefully (and obviously) orchestrated. At least by Kate. Hard to tell whether and to what extent TLC's had any input into this.
Tucker's Mom (#7), I commented when this first broke that TFW made sure to stress that it was hard for the other 7 because her attention was so focused on C. I also commented that I could not imagine this unlikely scenario. Can't you just picture big-hearted, laser-focused TFW -- patience personified -- giving body and soul 24/7 for her challenged child, while the other poor urchins vie for a crumb of her time and attention? Yeah, me neither.
And speaking of attention...isn't this the beginning of the school year for her 7 kids at home? Wouldn't you think TFW would be a bit busier with their lives as they begin a new grade? And maybe taking some extra time to comfort and support them during this time of transition, when they might be missing their brother? Perhaps she is. But she seems to be putting a lot of effort towards her image rehab via these obnoxious puppy posts, which makes me think it's just business as usual at Miss Gosselin's House for Exploited Children.
I don't even care if they were under contract. TFW could've broken the contract, paid whatever fines there might have been (which she would've gotten out of anyway), sold the house, got a nursing job, and moved to a freaking tenement apartment if it would've meant keeping her family together. ******* The argument that Kate HAS to film because she has 8 kids has always been specious at best (based on countless millions of Americans, over many generations, supporting their families-even large families-without selling the children's privacy and YES, even with a single-parent income). After a divorce and fracture of the family, after 2 children are expelled from school for behavioral problems, after years of Jon and Kate spewing vitriol, and now after Colin's need are so great, he must be placed in an inpatient program, that argument is actually twisted, cruel and worst of all, SELF-SERVING. The sheep don't want Kate to go away. They don't want her gone from their tv screens. They don't want her social media and media appearances to go away. No. They want what they feel they are entitled to, and that's watching these children like flies on a wall, like little fish in an aquarium. They will die arguing Kate's right-by-birthing to use them for filming, promotion, fodder and tabloid filler as she fits, but they will not utter ONE PEEP about the downsides for the kids. Nope. When this Nuremberg-worthy social experiment finally goes tits up, they'll just move on to the next fame-hungry set of parents willing to sell their kids for money.
She must be chewing her manicured nails at the thought that CPS may just come for more kids. ***** Makes ya wonder about the lack of commitment from TLC. But who knows, she'll probably turn up like a bad penny in Oct.
The advise to the children, "Don't settle" is just unnerving to me. If that is all your parent has to give you, boy is that a brick shy of a load or what? TFW views her kids and their lives through warped lenses. This mess will not end well. Already began falling off of the rails yrs. ago. Colin is only the first casualty. There will be more. Those kids will someday realize they were brought in to the world to make their mother famous. Remember, "don't settle." One baby would never be enough. Not enough "look at me" to that. TFW orchestrated this whole thing. When they realize the truth from fiction, they may dislike her intensely. When the money starts being doled out, could get very ugly for sure.
Kate Gosselin Makes More Troubling Confessions About Parenting Her 8 Kids
Kate Gosselin has come under fire in the past for parenting choices she made for her eight kids — and in her book, I Just Want You to Know, she recounted more horrifying experiences she put her brood through.
The 41-year-old admitted to letting her children play with shaving cream, in addition to dressing them in garbage bags and not paying attention to their health.
"The blood was everywhere! I still don't know what happened to Leah, and that left me a bit unsettled,” she explained.
For more jaw-dropping parenting confessions, check out Kate’s book I Just Want You to Know.
Once again, I'm reading these brief posts from folks I don't even know, and the love, caring and commitment to their children with challenges comes through clear as a bell. Nothing opaque about it. It warms my heart.
I said this above, this has already been written into a script someplace. It's all been carefully (and obviously) orchestrated. At least by Kate. Hard to tell whether and to what extent TLC's had any input into this. ***********************
I think TLC had very little, if any, input into the famewhore's latest People Cover and subsequent quest for publicity.
The Kate + 8 FB page is dead, her show is not on the schedule, there are no ads for the show being run, and the silence from TLC in general about Kate and the remaining 7 ATM's is deafening.
Colin does need a real diagnosis, with a name, to get the services provided at school or at PT, OT, speech. He needs a label (much as we hate that). Insurance companies also want a diagnosis. (Do they have insurance?) To isolate him in the basement with a nanny, no diagnosis necessary. In PA to homeschool you must turn in something of a curriculum plan. But you can easily buy the curriculum. There is really no certainty that any government agency checked on Colin.
Those dogs are not therapy dogs. They appear to have arrived around when Colin left. And therapy dogs need training. Buying a dog and hugging it can be pleasant but doesn't make it a therapy dog.
I agree for most families it is very hard to send a child away. It affects everyone. It is not normal to send a child away and announce it with happy smiling faces in People.
I forgot. Milo, Kate is not kissing the dog's paws. Never. She is acting for these pics and comments. None of it is real emotions. I am (sorry) a dog hater like Kate has always shown herself to be. Dog haters can become dog tolerators but do not switch over to dog lovers in one month.
Bingo. She has way more time on her hands than most single SAHMs, and we see how she spends it. Taking endless photos of her new "babies" and deleting all the negative IG comments as they appear. Or maybe she hires someone to do that. Either way, she is more or less perfectly positioned to deal with this at home, but she has CHOSEN not to. She'd like to say it's for the sake of her other kids, but that's really not believable to me. The other kids never treated Collin as a pariah on the show (well, no more than any other icky boy), SHE was the one who always had a problem with him.
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But could it be that she is just too darn dumb (okay, stupid) to know how to help him? She's not the sharpest tool in the shed and judging from her past actions and parenting, she has no patience whatsoever.
But could it be that she is just too darn dumb (okay, stupid) to know how to help him? She's not the sharpest tool in the shed and judging from her past actions and parenting, she has no patience whatsoever. _______
I don't think she's overly bright, but the one thing I'm 100% certain about is that she's fundamentally lazy. She's always looking for the easy way out.
The Collin story has recalled for me (odd, I know) the movie Body Heat. Remember the end, with Kathleen Turner on a beautiful island, having sociopathed her way to a big pile of money? I see Kate sitting in that lounger in a few years, the same blank unruffled stare on her face, as her adult children back home try to navigate the world with a set of warped views on top of a heaping helping of psychoses. Oh and PB is sitting next to her, of course, pouring the champagne and applying the 150 SPF sunblock.
Susan1956 (#19), I agree that TLC has not been a factor in this whole People fiasco. I don't see them giving much of a hoot about anything she does right now.
I almost imagine TLC like a guy who's broken up with a girl, but she doesn't really want to accept it. Then she calls him to say she's going to start seeing other people and the guy thinks, um, well, I broke up with you, so I couldn't care less, but, okay, whatever, good luck with that. TLC has, for the most part, moved on from TFW. They'll continue to use her for profit (like a side piece), but that's the extent of their relationship. Her days as their golden girl are long behind her.
This article is a few years old but supports that Collin was historically a target. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Ex-nanny-details-Kate-Gosselins-strict-literal-rule-book.html?mobi=true
However, it was a particular spanking incident that caused the nanny to abandon her position with the Gosselin family:
The nanny said that she ultimately quit after witnessing certain behavior she was uncomfortable with, such as Kate spanking son Colin—whom she described as the "busiest" of the eight kids and the one most often in trouble—with a plastic spoon in front of his brothers and sisters
Apparently Deanna has be away according to milo.I wonder how long she has been? Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack LOL Saw this & immediately thought of your friend...my twitter bud @deannatweeting! Miss her wit! https://www.instagram.com/p/BKC35UOAftO/?taken-by=positiveenergy_plus … @Kateplusmy8
Hmm could Deanna's disappearance be a clue?Didn't someone here admitted to following Deanna on twitter and said she hasn't said anything since that whole twitter fiasco with Jon?I would think that if she was still around she'd at least try to tell all her follows that all is well with Collin without the haters knowing what she saids because she is private.
Gladys misses Deanna's wit? Yeah, that night Deanna eviscerated the father of 8 children on Twitter, revealing personal information about minor children which she had no business sharing, she was a real hoot.
But could it be that she is just too darn dumb (okay, stupid) to know how to help him? She's not the sharpest tool in the shed and judging from her past actions and parenting, she has no patience whatsoever. _______
I don't think she's overly bright, but the one thing I'm 100% certain about is that she's fundamentally lazy. She's always looking for the easy way out. ------- Khate is one of those people who just cannot understand quid pro quo sort of things. Simple things like if you have a house you want to see for 500k but in it's current condition it's only worth 425k, if you put 25k into refurbishing it you can sell it for the full 500k. She would refuse to spend the 25k to add make 50k.
Apparently Deanna has be away according to milo.I wonder how long she has been? Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack LOL Saw this & immediately thought of your friend...my twitter bud @deannatweeting! Miss her wit! https://www.instagram.com/p/BKC35UOAftO/?taken-by=positiveenergy_plus … @Kateplusmy8
She doesn't say that Deanna is away, only that she misses her wit. It could be that Deanna is ignoring her.
Her twitter bud? You know, Milo really is a sad, pathetic, lonely little person. I don't know if it's male or female, but there are times that I really do feel sorry for him or her. Yes, Gladys is obnoxious, obsessed and is desperately in love with Kate and is a leech when it comes to Kate's friends, but maybe in order to get attention, Milo takes on the persona of a strong, domineering bold and brash person, but is really nothing more than a mouse in the house.
Simple things like if you have a house you want to see for 500k but in it's current condition it's only worth 425k, if you put 25k into refurbishing it you can sell it for the full 500k.
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My math is horrible, but if you have a house that's worth 425,000 in its current condition, but you want to sell it for 500,000, how is putting 25,000 into it going to bring it to a sale price of 500,000?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago @theresalingar @Kateplusmy8 I agree! She is a very responsible dedicated & loving Mom who not once even thought of walking away! #KidsFirst
She only wanted the kids in order to keep the show going, and hey, TLC was willing to pay the price. #KateFirst
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5m5 minutes ago @theresalingar @Kateplusmy8 I agree! She is a very responsible dedicated & loving Mom who not once even thought of walking away! #KidsFirst
Oh, MIlo. Foot in mouth. She didn't have to think of walking away. All she had to do was to send her son away! Problem solved.
Well I have some Bullyville news, and it's good. Do any of the old timers here remember when McGiblets, just to be an asshat, bought up a bunch of domain names that had no relation to him? Including people's business names, and people's first and last names?? He did it to that guy that sued him. Well I found out when I tried to buy my real, legal name domain a couple years ago (i.e. john smith.com) that that little turd had bought it! The F!! I really wanted it for my photography portfolio, and i was pissed he was holding it hostage.
I filed numerous complaints to the domain company that slowly churned through and I believe as part of his SLAPP suit he was ordered to release all his domains he had no business owning. My domain was just released and I bought it! It's all mine now!
He may have had the upper hand for a little while with RTK, but in the end, we prevailed.
I'd bet the farm that Milo pesters the heck out of Deanna, Jamie, others in Kate's "circle," and when they see Milo's string of tweets and DMs, they bang there heads on the wall and mumble, "STFU, just STUFU." She's just too dumb to know it. Milo is NOTHING to those people, nothing at all, and yet for some reason I bet she thinks that they enjoy communicatin' with her.
Since Kate abandoned her coupon site and no longer scours the internet for deals, where does Milo buy her petite slacks, or does she run around naked as a jay bird, much to LOM's delight or displeasure, however you want to look at it?
Good for you, Admin. The reports over at the Viaview Files on what's happening with the domains he bought up have been a bit murky. McGoober is (rather unbelievably given his professed state of penury) appealing the Texas appellate court verdict against him, so I don't think anyone expected there'd be any movement on the domains yet. I am sure there are people who will be interested in seeing whether their name-domains have been released. So thanks for mentioning this.
He did it to that guy that sued him. Well I found out when I tried to buy my real, legal name domain a couple years ago (i.e. john smith.com) that that little turd had bought it!
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Old timer here! Good news indeed. We always said that it might take some time, but in the end, he would do something to someone who would take him down. He thought he was invincible. He was wrong.
Little turd? LOL! Yes, I guess that really sums him up. Two words and it's perfect! Is he still Kate's Knight in Shining Armor, and Milo's hero? It's said that one is known by the company one keeps. Speaks volumes about McNubbles and his cronies/internet buddies.
I love your photo of the big pier at the beach. Remember I said it looked like a big dinosaur going into the water? I love that picture! I would love to save it in my documents again.
Milo's up at 7 a.m. supportin' her girl! Now that's devotion.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack #Courage >> #SingleMoms who make the difficult decisions to achieve the better future for their kids! @Kateplusmy8
Platitude: Ten years from now, make sure you can say that you chose your life, you didn't settle for it.
[Everybody get that? Key word = "settle"]
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack Excuses are for the WEAK. Responsibility is for the STRONG. Make NO EXCUSES for your decisions! Moms do what they have to do! @kateplusmy8
I wonder if all the beatings and other abuse falls under "Moms do what they have to do!"
Yeah, let's put our unrestrained puppy in the front seat. Because that's so safe. Oh and it's Mak this time.
kateplusmy8 He's just becoming a regular car riding dog... First time in the front seat! It wasn't all THIS peaceful but he did really well overall! Love my 'Mackers' #Mak #NanuqInTheBackSeat
Collin leaves; cue puppies to make the kids less likely to balk or be afraid. Added bonus, pictures for IG and filming plot. So transparent. Kate is a demon. Hope TLC realizes this is a scandal waiting to be exposed. Filming over what's best for the kids' mental health.
Hooray, Admin! I'm thrilled for you! McGibney also created multiple websites in non-fans names and often filled them with disparaging information. Hope they're also successful!
Admin, right on! Good for you for fighting the good fight.
Dmasy (#45), I knew all along her name wasn't Admin. But I admit I'm surprised to find out it's John Smith!
"Mackers?" I can't. Gladys will be in seventh heaven with more nicknames. Gotta love how she claims TFW "not once even thought of walking away." She knows her private thoughts, but we were made fun of because we were "mind readers." She's never met TFW in her life, not even once. But she knows what she thinks. And last week she got very irate when someone scolded her for posting C's picture, and sputtered that we have no idea of her relationship with the G family. All kidding aside, guys, her adulation has gone a step further, and I find it concerning.
If "excuses are for the WEAK," why has having 8 kids been TFW's handy excuse for any wrongdoing for more than a decade? Why do the fans use it as an excuse for her for everything, and say we'd do the same if we had 8 kids?
Kate? I beg of you. Restrain your dogs in the car.
One of the easiest, cheapest, and safest ways to do it is to just pop their crate in the car and run a seatbelt through the handle. Put the dog in and you're done. This is how I've always restrained my dog in the car and he's taken to BOLTING for his crate when we go for car rides, excited to make himself comfortable on the blankets and start looking around at the scenery. He loves it. He's safe, and so are the other passengers. If you always do this, they associate it with how they travel and will happily comply.
Read this: "Car accident test simulations, done using a 12-pound canine crash test dummy, showed that at a speed of only 30 mph, an unrestrained dog will strike a barrier with 650 pounds of force on impact. On top of this, in the event of a car accident, unrestrained animals will most likely try to escape a vehicle if windows are broken and can then easily get lost or hit by other vehicles."
Admin (#52), don't interrupt TFW's love fest with logic.
Of course everything you said makes complete sense, and the issue is so easily addressed with the crate. And if Gladys is truly the dog lover she professes to be, she'll recommend that to TFW. Right after she reads about it here.
Good for you, Admin. The reports over at the Viaview Files on what's happening with the domains he bought up have been a bit murky. McGoober is (rather unbelievably given his professed state of penury) appealing the Texas appellate court verdict against him, so I don't think anyone expected there'd be any movement on the domains yet. I
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I noticed mine was set to expire this summer so I've been watching it waiting to see if it would be freed up. Sure enough he didnt renew it! 't took I think about a month after it expired to be able to purchase it. I guess there's some kind of waiting period.
I haven't been able to find out if anyone else has been able to get their domain too, but I'm wondering if they may all be due to expire at different times, depending on when he bought them.
With everything that is going on, I can see him not bothering to renew some of these domains as they come up for renewal. Especially if he knows deep down he's about to lose them anyway. That's a real waste of money. I think he's got so much else to worry about now, renewing my domain wasn't on his to do list. In any case, I'm thrilled to have it! Finally!
I realize the block button on IG is reserved for haters, but if Katie doesn't watch out, this guy, her newest BFF, is gonna run the innocent right off her page. Does he really think that the entire world MUST know exactly when Kate got these pups? He's almost as idiotic as Milo, but in a different way. Perfect.
sosachoff Puppy is soooo cute!!!! 6 months old yet?
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nick_moy@samyahsshennaq Did you just got out of a coma? Kate just got 2 puppies about 5 months ago. Oh.. in case you didn't know Obama was elected for a 2nd term in office.
"A big party in Ohio ended with 73 arrests, including some Amish teens. Police say the party was for the teens to celebrate "Rumspringa," a rite of passage for Amish teens to take part in "English" activities. Thirty-five minors and 38 adults were arrested."
Okay, so who is their supplier? That's probably why there is a shortage of Rumspringa over here! It's all in Ohio!
And last week she got very irate when someone scolded her for posting C's picture, and sputtered that we have no idea of her relationship with the G family. All kidding aside, guys, her adulation has gone a step further, and I find it concerning.
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She's in the last stage of CW. I wonder if there's anything beyond that. Scary, huh? I just don't have good feelings about her intimate 'relationship' with Kate and the kids. Something's gotta give.
Sad but true (#55), oh, my! Is that really the Nick Moy guy, or is someone pretending to be him? That's an awfully snotty comment, and there was no silly emoticon that may have softened it, like he was teasing. Are fans supposed to keep a TFW calendar to chronicle all the comings and goings at Miss Gosselin's House For Exploited Children? Maybe they can hire Em Tanner to make new one for them, to reflect the current G family structure: 7 kids, 3 dogs, one bird, and a shrew.
@Admin thats great news admin,hopefully the other domains will follow up as well.I've seen so many tweets by bullyville on his main and sock accounts and the guy doesnt sound like someone who's a bully fighter.From his tweets he sounds like an immature psychopath.In fact the funny thing is that if you look up his real name "James Mcgibney"you actually get the site Viaviewfiles which is the site thats against him and his bullville website comes up 7th in the search results.It sounds like his website is as died as Kate's timeline.
Jon has been talking about how he doesn't see his kids - and not knowing why - for months. Cara and Mady finally said what we all have been saying.... Jon knows why. 4. Everyone says wait until Mady and Cara are 18 to write a book about Kate. Well they are almost 16 and saying that their dad knows why they don't want to see them.
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They're lack of ANY specifics about what exactly it is about their father that's so terrible, and adult-like phrases like "he knows the reason why", "toxic", etc., are CLASSIC signs of parental alienation. Just classic. Eventually they will realize they have been alienated, and will be damaged and resentful about it, make no mistake.
I think Phila 4 gave great insight. Admin-you all have been harping for days that Kate said too much and have been speculating about Collin. Maybe Mady did indeed take the high road and not embarrass her father for living a rogue teenagers life. She didn't say, "Look, my dad was on a gross TV show talking about masturbation with a crass girlfriend, "my Dad urinated in public while talking about my Mom and us kids and he doesn't care enough to involve himself in our lives"....Mady summed up what Jon is and that is toxic. Mady is know dummy and that word is not at all a reach for someone as precocious as she is. I think Jon knows the twins are likely embarrassed by his lifestyle. If anyone alienated themselves it was Jon. Mady and Cara can easily survey what he has done and hasn't done since the divorce.
I can imagine what the twins thought of his drunken live feed flipping people off with his hat on backwards. Mady gets to choose her words and feelings weather you like it or not, just like this poster did a fine job expressing her opinions.
I am not excusing Kate for the article, but I am sure not laying this at Mady's feet.
Jon is exactly in the position he earned.
As a teen my parent's went through a divorce and when my dad started dating and going places I didn't approve up it hurt our relationship a great deal. Sure he was a grown man but I was still devasted when I heard of some of his not even close to Jon's shenanigans.
Jon hasn't put the kids first since he moved off the property.
@Sad but true Not sure why Nick is getting aggressive over a fan's question.That Nick person posted alot of comments on kate's IG that i swear sounds like something milo would say like this one nick_moy She's always smiling, I bet you enjoyed spoiling her. I can see in my mind how much you will spoil your grandchildren. Lol 🐕🐕🐕
Bingo. She has way more time on her hands than most single SAHMs, and we see how she spends it. Taking endless photos of her new "babies" and deleting all the negative IG comments as they appear. Or maybe she hires someone to do that. Either way, she is more or less perfectly positioned to deal with this at home, but she has CHOSEN not to. She'd like to say it's for the sake of her other kids, but that's really not believable to me. The other kids never treated Collin as a pariah on the show (well, no more than any other icky boy), SHE was the one who always had a problem with him
Again, more speculation on your part. I knew something was wrong when Leah was loading the van for the birthday party sleepover. I heard Kate say to out the bags on the right side and Leah was back tossing bags in. Collin had his bag and he was going to place it on the right side come hell or high water.
We just don't know if his temper became much worse and that he hurt some of the kids, or tried to hurt himself. If he is self harming he should be inpatient, at least for a period of time. He was homeschooled all last year and I have wondered if Andrea was the wrap around care you keep saying Kate didn't try. I think Kate did try all last year with Collin. I am not a fan of Kate but If Collin truly needed this specialized help, thank goodness she provided it. Look at Josh Duggar when the parent's tried to pray his problems away.
I hate that she did the article. I hate that both blogs are still talking about this. I hate it for this kid. As far as I am concerned every comment about what Collin needs or is being treated for is flaming his situation, my 2 included.
I wish all of you posters never started on him. I said the same thing to Sage.
I have wondered if Andrea was the wrap around care you keep saying Kate didn't try.
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HAHA. Um, NO, Andrea is not WrapAround.
WrapAround are master's degree social workers and therapists, they usually come into the home in groups of two to three, if not more. They come carrying IDs, badges, files and notebooks to document the visit. They are not 21 year old liberal arts majors kids puttering around making lasagna with the twins.
Maybe Mady did indeed take the high road and not embarrass her father for living a rogue teenagers life.
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There was nothing Mady said about her father that even remotely resembled the high road. Not that that was her fault. The fact that Jon is not perfect does not mean a mother has a right to come between him and his children.
No father is perfect. No mother is perfect. Heck, no children are perfect! And the law in every state says children can and MUST see them anyway because the psychological experts have determined that but for extreme cases like sexual abuse, it is far more damaging for a child to not see a parent at all, even a lackluster one. The studies are endless about this, there's no denying this so not sure why you would even try to. I'll give you this, it's Jon's fault for not taking action and calling the f-ing cops and having his children delivered to him on his time. But it's not his fault that Kate has alienated the children in the first place such that he would have to do that to see them.
When the kids go to Jon in the future, and express their hurt and anger, he will listen and I'm willing to bet, he'll atone and ask forgiveness. Kate? You're kidding me, right? -----
Maybe that is what Mady is looking for now. She is a kid. It should be Jon who steps up and says maybe those comments weren't well stated. I can see how I have embarrassed you.
For argument's sake, let's pretend Andrea was C's WrapAround person. Then for the love of pete, why in the world would TFW continue to allow a camera crew to film in his home, and to shadow his family on store trips and vacations, if his condition was as dire as it was?
Admin, McGoober may not have renewed them because he doesn't have the money. He claims to be broke, says he can't ever buy a house or send his kids to college. Or it may be due to the fact that it doesn't sound good in court when confronted with all these domains in other peoples' names. He even bought one in the name of the opposing lawyer in his case. Try explaining that one to the judge in a way that doesn't sound menacing. Either way, it's good news for all the people who had to deal with a stranger owning domains in their names. It's just creepy that he did any of that in the first place.
That Nick guy in IG sounds like a loon. Really, does he expect that every person who may take a look at Kate's IG already knows the exact age of her puppies? Apparently he doesn't know himself, because she got them in June, and I think she said they were born in April. That would mean she got them 3 months ago, not 5. I hope that poster corrects him on his own ignorance.
The other kids certainly did treat Collin like a pariah- they would not agree to be his partner in activities, he was often sitting apart from them, the girls made rude remarks about/to him. it was mainly the girl tups, but sometimes he was just odd man out.Kate stated which kids got along and didn't mention any who got on with Collin except Hannah on rare occasions.
If Kate hadn't made public Collin's situation, no one would be discussing it. I think Collin will find support and compassion, if he should ever read here.
With fans like these, K8 might as well invite the haters in, LOL.
samyahsshennaq NICK _MAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A SMARTASS!SO THE TWO SHEPARD SHE GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ARE GONE AND SHE GOT TWO MORE WITH THE SAME NAMES?smartass!
samyahsshennaq Sorry nick_moy smartass!
samyahsshennaq Nick_moy instead of insulting me you could have explained that the two dogs she had were returned and she got two more you don't have to be rude! I don't watch the show anymore so I didn't know this fact .
samyahsshennaq No need to respond
miloandjack2016I knew you would be game to try this!! What a JOY to have him ride #Shotgun next to you!! How long was the ride? @kateplusmy8
bevyschaI love seeing pictures of your furbabies!
miloandjack2016So I guess you could get a tag for ur car now....#PeskyPapsBeware!! #OnBoard ##MakForMom SECURITY!! Was this the vet trip for this wk? Did both pups get good report? @kateplusmy8
nick_moy@samyahsshennaq Yeah.. The 2 new dogs DOES not have the same names. Any more FACTS you want to share ? You should not start out your comments so rudely yourself.
#PeskyPapsBeware? It's not 2009, Milo, even Kate knows that.
I will not try to engage with someone -- under whatever name they use or borrow -- who is trying to make us question our interest in the well being of a child.
. . . I think Jon knows the twins are likely embarrassed by his lifestyle. If anyone alienated themselves it was Jon. Mady and Cara can easily survey what he has done and hasn't done since the divorce. ________
I don't disagree that Jon has done plenty that would embarrass his kids, especially his older daughters. In fact, I said way back in this thread that I am sure the live-in girlfriends (and the number of them) were probably not a happy thing for them. And I get that, I would probably be very unhappy about that, too.
But most of what you mentioned (the TV therapy show with his GF, live-stream feed, etc.) are things that Kate hs proclaimed they have no access to. Whatever, I am sure they are way ahead of her in defying her wishes.
But are you also saying that you don't think Kate has played any part in their attitude towards him? I thought the infamous TV interviews in January 2014 ("Speak your words!") were pretty clear on this point. She purposely put them out there (or do you think they lobbied her to be on a morning show?) in order to trash their father. Instructing nannies to listen in on any conversations with their father? As if he's the enemy? Preventing the kids from calling him or taking calls from him? Do you think any of that is acceptable?
As for Collin, for me it comes down to what Kate herself has said in her books and done on her show. I think she bears a lot of responsibility for his issues. And I hope that being away from her enables him to be happy and healthy.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 70 For argument's sake, let's pretend Andrea was C's WrapAround person. Then for the love of pete, why in the world would TFW continue to allow a camera crew to film in his home, and to shadow his family on store trips and vacations, if his condition was as dire as it was? _______
THIS. If things were really so bad with Collin (self-harming or hurting others), why in the world would Kate still be allowing TLC into their home with cameras?
Frankly, I don't credit Kate with having the kind of self-restraint (or self-sacrifice, or self-awareness) to just say "no" to filming, but surely that situation should have given even TLC pause. Do we think the professionals (who may or may not have been in her home, we actually have no confirmation of that) thought a TV crew hanging around was a good idea?
dwhite001@kateplusmy8 you might want to consider seat belts with them. They would go flying if ever in an accident
kateplusmy8 I know! He is absolutely harnessed and buckled in but he's so furry you can't see it in this pic! I'd never put them in a car without securing them:) @dwhite001
I see the harness on the dog, but what is it attached to? Do they make special seat belts that hook up to a dog harness?
Susie Cincinnati said... 36 Simple things like if you have a house you want to see for 500k but in it's current condition it's only worth 425k, if you put 25k into refurbishing it you can sell it for the full 500k.
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My math is horrible, but if you have a house that's worth 425,000 in its current condition, but you want to sell it for 500,000, how is putting 25,000 into it going to bring it to a sale price of 500,000?
I need a drink. ----- Here's a rumspringa (can't believe you guys are still using that btw! :) )
It's not maths, it's real estate which is even more confusing than maths, and this is coming from someone with dyscalculia. The amount of money you put into refurbishing your house can raise the price of it double what you paid for those refurbishments.
It's not maths, it's real estate which is even more confusing than maths, and this is coming from someone with dyscalculia. The amount of money you put into refurbishing your house can raise the price of it double what you paid for those refurbishments.
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Not always, believe me. Not always. It depends on what refurbishment you've done, plus fluctuating market values. Been there, done that!
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 48s48 seconds ago @ConcernedChick @NaughtyNiceRob @radar_online @Kateplusmy8 This has nothing to do w/ document stating Kate to change behavior/get anger mgmt ______
Is there a document that says Kate has to get anger mgmt? Or is that just from "sources say"?
Here's a rumspringa (can't believe you guys are still using that btw! :) )
It's not maths, it's real estate which is even more confusing than maths, and this is coming from someone with dyscalculia. The amount of money you put into refurbishing your house can raise the price of it double what you paid for those refurbishments. -------------------- Or it can raise the price by half of what you paid, or not at all, or can even decrease the price, depending on the refurbishment and how it is done.
In general, the things that actually increase a house's value more than the cost involved are cleaning, decluttering, staging, repainting in neutral colors, and small repairs/replacements.
There are tables showing how much you can expect to get back of dollars spent on home improvements,
I looked. I don't think that dog is buckled in since he is able to sit up so straight and the straps don't seem attached to anything. The car is parked (with an old 80s station wagon in the background). Where are they? Anyway, the dog most likely did not ride up front. The dog was in a picture up front. Then he can go in the back somewhere. This is Kate.
Another comment on the dog pic: Why do you keep posting pics of the "damned dogs"? We want to see pics of the kids.
Even if the dog has a harness that's buckled in, the front passenger air bag could seriously injure or kill him. Kate is such an immature woman whose ability to reason is severely impaired. You choose the safest place for your dog to ride, not where it's fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grow up and do what's most responsible! (I have to remind myself that this is the same woman who let her little boy crawl under her 3000 pound van)
Return on investment varies greatly, depending on your project and your region etc. You can't expect that if you do a 50K kitchen redo that you'll be able to increase the asking price of your house by 50K. People aren't going to pay double per square foot in comparison to other houses nearby.
miloandjack2016Stats indicate dogs fair better in accidents because they tend to be so relaxed & limber! Humans tense up! Plus you seem to have always practiced #SafetyFirst when carting kids around...going on 16yrs now!! Dontcha know if you ever even have a #FenderBender its going to make #HeadlineNews right? 😋 @kateplusmy ^^^^^ There's Milo, blowing smoke out her ass. I'd like to see that stats that say dogs fair better in car accidents because they're relaxed. She's an idiot. That b.s. makes zero sense. She's just deflecting yet another one of Kate's childish stunts.
Tucker's Mom said... 89 Even if the dog has a harness that's buckled in, the front passenger air bag could seriously injure or kill him. ______
Oh she came back on to address that. She so reads here, lol.
dwhite001My afterthought was "I'm sure he's buckled, having 8 kids ... safety first! Sorry for doubting 😊 @kateplusmy8
kateplusmy8 No worries:)! It was meant to inform you and to be said kindly! Hard in text to convey emotion tho 😜 And YES! Safety is always first! I even worried about the airbag for him... Is it really safe even if the seat is as far back as it goes?! #FurMomWorries @dwhite001
dwhite001I did take your response as kind, so No worries back at you 😏 Have a great weekend @kateplusmy8
And no IG post from K8 would be complete without at least 4 posts from Milo.
miloandjack2016 Stats indicate dogs fair better in accidents because they tend to be so relaxed & limber! Humans tense up! Plus you seem to have always practiced #SafetyFirst when carting kids around...going on 16yrs now!! Dontcha know if you ever even have a #FenderBender its going to make #HeadlineNews right? 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 And Im LOL-ing at your nick for #Mak....We now have #NookiePookie and brother #Macker!! Good fit! Sometimes we call Jack...#JackAMack. 😋 #Shokies still the nick for daddy there? @kateplusmy8
Poor Milo, she just can't stop until she gets Shoka into the picture. "C'mon Kate, you have THREE dogs, you can't leave Big Daddy out, what will the haters say?" Sheesh.
Maybe that is what Mady is looking for now. She is a kid. It should be Jon who steps up and says maybe those comments weren't well stated.
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A lot of things out of EVERY party has not been well stated--Dad, Mom and the kids. Until regular and consistent visitation has been set up and enforced by her mother and father, however, that child doesn't have a prayer at ever having a functional relationship with her father or actually, her mother either.
That's the whole point, she is a CHILD. None of this should be on her.
She may have airbag sensors like I have which will shut off the passenger airbag if the passenger is too light. I sometimes put my dog crate in the front seat and the light will come on showing the airbag is off. That's safe.
Even so though, it's better to have your dog in the back restrained or in a crate. Just be a responsible pet owner. Even a low speed crash that might not even give a human a scrape could kill or seriously injure a pet who is not restrained.
Kate dear, ask yourself if you think it's a good idea to put a child that size in the front passenger seat? No? (hopefully). Then don't put your puppy there. Safety features in cars are based on humans, not dogs, therefore, we as RESPONISBLE dog owners must decide upon the best way to ensure the dog's safety. Put your precious puppies in the back with a seatbelt, or in a secured crate. Stop playing "cool mom" driving around with your dog riding shotgun where he can get hurt or worse, distract you causing an accident.
Wait?I thought Goody said the journals were modified?Now she's saying because its Kate copyrighted material that she can't sue for defamation?So what part of the book is full of lies?Im so confused because they cant say its full of lies but then claim its copyrighted material.Her fans are so confusing.
jason leopold @servant81 2m2 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 U need help.Seriously.Cancelling Jon from Djing the kids school. U r the one who needs help! Anything to keep him from his kids
#PeskyPapsBeware? #HeadlineNews? What the??? Does Milo think it's still 2009? Really, I think Kate can go for a drive without worrying about paps chasing her these days. Not that she's happy about that. I bet she'd give her eyeteeth to go back to the days when they followed her everywhere.
Tucker's mom said...91 There's Milo, blowing smoke out her ass. I'd like to see that stats that say dogs fair better in car accidents because they're relaxed. She's an idiot. That b.s. makes zero sense. She's just deflecting yet another one of Kate's childish stunts.
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You know, that's what they say about drunks driving and having a car crash. They are limber because of the alcohol and don't get hurt or hurt as bad.
Do you think TFW would be able to disable the air bag if it had the option on her vehicle to disarm it when she puts the dog in the passenger seat?
Forgot to post the tweet she said it in Msgoody2shoes21 @jamezvader1194 @GoKingDaddy @ConcernedChick I doubt Kate can sue for defamation because it's her copyrighted material. As far as proving it was stolen.... it's her word against her ex from hell, the thief who stole it and gave to the trash man
She canceled a DJ gig that JON was going to do at the kids school???
And she complains that she does it all alone. Why are you not letting him make a living so he can have money to spend on the kids that do get to see him???
Your big mountain of money that you are sitting on is blood money for using your children for a decade for filming and basically destroying them.
jason leopold @servant81 2m2 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 U need help.Seriously.Cancelling Jon from Djing the kids school. U r the one who needs help! Anything to keep him from his kids
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I recognize that guys name...there was a Radar article once where Jon supposedly said something on FB I forget what but it was on this guys page (I looked him up at the time). His fb profile pic is him at Jon at what looks like a DJ gig. And Jon is his FB friend. Which took me to Jon's facebook and it says 9/6 he left his dj job at Building 24. Hopefully for bigger and better. Sigh
Anyway, the twitter account only has a few tweets but unless someone is pretending to be this guy, it seems realistic. PA Dutch Mom, do you know if there is an event at the school he could have been up for DJing?
Some nasty exchanges were going on between a sheep and the non-fans on Twitter. Honest to goodness, this sounds like squabbling on a grade school playground. It's hard to believe that these people are grown adults who don't know how to converse in a civil, mature manner.
Wait?I thought Goody said the journals were modified?Now she's saying because its Kate copyrighted material that she can't sue for defamation?So what part of the book is full of lies?
------------------ Goody's tweets that Robert included in the book, of course.
Poor Milo, she just can't stop until she gets Shoka into the picture. "C'mon Kate, you have THREE dogs, you can't leave Big Daddy out, what will the haters say?" Sheesh.
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Well, heck. Let's get a photo of Zorro tethered to the front console, and the fish (if they are still alive) swimming around in the cup holder.
localyocul said... 105 I see the school has an upper school Homecoming Dance on 10/1 and a middle school dance on 10/14. Are the tups in middle school? ____
Tups in 6th, twins in 10th? I think grades 6-8 is middle school there.
She canceled a DJ gig that JON was going to do at the kids school???
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Who knows if this is true or what the whole story is, but a couple comments.
If true, she needs to look up Tortious interference with Employment.
Secondly, a lot of that would really be on the school to not allow crap like that and tell her to buzz off. The last thing a school needs to do is support parental alienation.
@Admin If true,i can't think of any reason for the school to agree with her and cancel the gig.What exactly would Kate say to the school?Would she say it was to protect her kids like she always says?I would think the school would ask what Jon did but since there has be no source that comes out and said Kate doesn't allow jon to see them because he abused them then i can't think of any reason why they would.
IF true, I wouldn't put it past her to say, if you don't cancel him, I'll pull them out. And I think the school, knowing her, would take that seriously. At this point, they've got a lot more invested in those kids than they do in Jon, and I can see them respectfully declining to have him DJ there.
Will someone that knows the GSD breed take a look at "Mackers" and tell me if the overbite he seems to have is normal. It seems excessive to me but then again I'm used to looking at the underbite of a bulldog.
miloandjack2016I knew you would be game to try this!! What a JOY to have him ride #Shotgun next to you!! How long was the ride? @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016So I guess you could get a tag for ur car now....#PeskyPapsBeware!! #OnBoard ##MakForMom SECURITY!! Was this the vet trip for this wk? Did both pups get good report? @kateplusmy8
How long will Gladys be obsessed with those new puppies? The dogs, not Kate's inflatables!
There's a reason she's called Gladys! Good grief. I kind of feel sorry for her family. She's a crazy scary busybody.
If it were the homecoming dance I could see the twins having a shit fit about their toxic dad embarrassing them
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Probably, though Jon did that dance for his cousin or nephew or something, and they seemed to love it. Assuming any of this is true, the twins really need to grow up, the school needs to grow up, Kate needs to grow up. It really doesn't ring true to me though a school would cancel on a DJ no matter how much a parent whines. Too much potential for a lawsuit. It's a big deal to take away a DJ's Friday or Saturday night, they can't book other gigs. To suddenly cancel on them is playing with fire.
It would make no sense for the school to bow to a threat about pulling the kids out. It's only 7 kids out of a decent sized school body. They might even be past the deadline to get a refund. Kate would threaten to sue.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 120 . . . It's a big deal to take away a DJ's Friday or Saturday night, they can't book other gigs. To suddenly cancel on them is playing with fire. _______
My thought was that he might have volunteered his services. Many parents do at their kids' schools, especially with special functions. Not that anyone would ever expect Kate to.
It would make no sense for the school to bow to a threat about pulling the kids out. It's only 7 kids out of a decent sized school body. They might even be past the deadline to get a refund. Kate would threaten to sue.
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I have to agree.....maybe that happens in the movies, but if it got around a school was being bullied that badly by a parent, that would only make their dealings with all parents hell. I actually think they're smart enough not to play Kate's games, knowing you give her an inch she'll want a mile. That's just how she is and surely they have seen that by now.
I bet this school even has a waitlist. It would be no problem at all to fill 7 spots this early in September. I hope it's not true, and if it is, I can only shake my head.
Will someone that knows the GSD breed take a look at "Mackers" and tell me if the overbite he seems to have is normal. It seems excessive to me but then again I'm used to looking at the underbite of a bulldog.
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I can't see a good pic of it on it instgram so it's hard to tell. Sounds like a shoddy breeder if so.
I did notice most of her puppy photos are not that good or cute. If you didn't know this was her account the average person would be scrolling. She needs to look at the top photos for hashtag cutepuppy to begin to understand what a good photo of a cute dog is.
Another comment about Kate saying this: " I even worried about the airbag for him... Is it really safe even if the seat is as far back as it goes?!"
If you're worried about the airbag, that means you should not be putting him up front. So why the hell do you put him in the front until you know whether that is enough weight to trigger our airbag or whether he's far enough back? Wondering and worrying about the airbag isn't enough. She's unbelievably irresponsible.
Airbags can go off in low speed crashes, even fender benders. It could kill him. Yes, wonder about the airbag, and put him in the f--ing back seat unless and until you know the airbag doesn't pose a risk. Good grief. A dead dog is the tradeoff for spending the same exact amount of time to put him in the back. Why even risk this?
lopmental assessment of Collin and it was aired on television? Surely that's what you mean, as there would no other way to tell if he is "on par" developmentally.
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I totally disagree. I'm not saying it is by any means a professional assessment but you can tell a lot about this child from what's on film.
For instance, we can see he can speak in age appropriate sentences, we can see he can respond to others normally, that his social skills are very good, he has great eye contact, good emotional responses to stimulus, that he can provide detailed, age appropriate explanations of various things for the cameras, that he can take direction easily, that he can understand and follow normal social rules. That he is smart, sweet, responsive, oriented to his family and environment. We have also seen him at times shy, quiet, almost beaten down. We are by no means in the dark about his abilities. That's not to say he may have some struggles we don't see, but it's absolutely not true we have no information about his abilities. And as well documented, he is a very, very capable child. Which makes institutionalism all the more baffling. Goodness, he is far and away so much more capable than most of my special needs kids. I only wish they had his abilities. I have never in my nine years of working with kids like him seen a kid institutionalized who is as able as that child. This is a first.
It would make no sense for the school to bow to a threat about pulling the kids out. It's only 7 kids out of a decent sized school body. They might even be past the deadline to get a refund. Kate would threaten to sue.
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I have to agree.....maybe that happens in the movies, but if it got around a school was being bullied that badly by a parent, that would only make their dealings with all parents hell. ______
My point was not that the school would be worried about the money or filling places if she started to throw her weight around. I think the school, having spent many years with these kids, would back down to ensure that they were not hurt by such a situation. Let's face it, they must know Kate pretty well by now and understand what they're dealing with. I can only imagine what must have gone on when the decision was being made for Collin to leave the school.
So what was the context that made Jon calling Kate an asshole in an interview acceptable?
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No one, not a single one, said it's okay to call someone names.
What was said is that Jon said so in direct response to her exploiting her children. And he's right, it's an asshole thing to do, whether you like the word or not. The public response to this little student she pulled with her child was overwhelming no matter how you spin it--same shit different day from YOU. The public is outraged at her, they have every right to be, and it upsets you. Sorry.
My point was not that the school would be worried about the money or filling places if she started to throw her weight around. I think the school, having spent many years with these kids, would back down to ensure that they were not hurt by such a situation
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Yeah, but, eh, I think they're smart enough to know not to play ball with Kate Gosselin or listen to her various whining. If they want a children's father to DJ, they're not much going to care what the voluntarily estranged mother thinks of it. Thinking this will somehow hurt the kids is kind of speculative. I just really don't see schools play ball with parents like this, they know once you open that barn door you'll regret it....and this school surely knows it with the various entitled parents who have come through their doors.
I guess my point is, I'm not buying this one. Even if it did happen, more likely JON heard she was making noise and voluntarily backed off to not cause trouble. That would be just like Jon.
Do you think TFW would be able to disable the air bag if it had the option on her vehicle to disarm it when she puts the dog in the passenger seat?
Or is she THAT lazy?
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She is THAT lazy. She could google her car year and model and find out about the airbag, she could open the manual in the glove compartment and read about it, she could look for a sensor alert on her dash somewhere that indicates the airbag is on or off, she could look for a switch where you can manually turn it off if you're going to put a dog or small child up front.
She did none of this. She just sat her dog in the path of serious danger and then wondered about it.
It would almost be better if she sat him there without thinking about the airbag. The scary thing is, she THOUGHT about the danger, per her own words, yet did nothing to mitigate it.
Shouldn't Kate be getting a cat or cats to complete this menagerie? Milo would go crazy with advice. Kate could name one of the cats after Milo who would be batpoop giddy. At least it would be a new obsession for The Gladys. It would keep Gladys busy for a while and the dogs would be on hold.
Our newer cars have auto sensors for the front passenger seats,and an older one-our 2-seater- has a manual shut off. How can you have 8 kids and be so unaware of the airbag dangers of putting a small being in its deployment path?
Warmth of the Sun, I about lost it when you said if the fish were still alive that she could let them swim in the cup holder!
Maybe she will put the pup in a crate and buckle it in, in the backseat. If she doesn't, she only has herself to blame! Would be ironic payback if she let one of the pups ride shotgun, with no restraints and she has an accident and the pup meets their demise.
I don't wish that at all, especially for the kids, they would be very upset and I would never wish that on them ever!!!
I LOVE DOGS, BUT, you can not continue to treat a son for over a DOZEN YEARS and continue to as ya'll say, farting rainbows and unicorns, like nothing to see here. We nine are all fine!
There is speculation (I emphasize, SPECULATION) it might be his oldest daughter, who apparently left the family singing group abruptly not long ago. Their 2nd season on TLC (which was short, only 6 episodes) ran March-May 2016.
Sad but true said... 138 Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 137
There is speculation (I emphasize, SPECULATION) it might be his oldest daughter, who apparently left the family singing group abruptly not long ago. Their 2nd season on TLC (which was short, only 6 episodes) ran March-May 2016.
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That's what I was wondering. Remember the Duggar scandal started with "Josh accused of molestation as a teen" and THEN it came out that it was his siblings.
I hope TLC really really thinks hard before putting K+8 back on given their situation.
There is speculation (I emphasize, SPECULATION) it might be his oldest daughter, who apparently left the family singing group abruptly not long ago. Their 2nd season on TLC (which was short, only 6 episodes) ran March-May 2016.
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I think TLC may have cut it short because they knew this was brewing.
This goes to my point, you can be shut down at any time for any reason, and the money train is over. How stupid can you be to let a great, stable career like nursing sail on by knowing how unreliable reality shows are??? TLC is probably going to have to cancel the show officially now. At least temporarily.
As far as it being his daughter, well, all I can say is it usually is, or a niece or nephew, or other close relative. It's not too often a pedophile tracks down a random stranger's kid and molests them.
Or, it still could have been some kind of liaison with a 17 year old, which, while still child rape, isn't the same thing as being attracted to pre-pubecent children or your own biological children. One is illegal and inappropriate, the other is a perversion. What did stick out is all the articles emphasize it was one incident from 12 years ago. That kind of suggests more of a drunken rendezvous with someone underage. When you're targeting a young child, usually there is a period of grooming and the sex abuse carries on much more than just once.
I think in the back, or front of her mind, this is another reason TFW sent Collin away. If he were doing anything at all that would cause TLC to say we just can't film anymore (NOT suggesting sexual abuse of course, but anything harmful at all to others), then the whole of production would be shut down. But if she banishes him from the home and thus, filming, then they can't shut down filming over him.
I also think it's entirely possible TLC already said they're not filming unless he's not part of it (due to obvious stress on him, liability, etc). Which again leads back to choosing filming over him, if true.
From the Willis article: "The new season premiered in early 2016. The Facebook post continued, “In the new season, viewers will get a deeper look into the family’s life off the tour bus."
Yeah, well, thanks to Dad's arrest, I guess they carried through on that promise.
Doesn't really matter to me Admin, you sick ****, if the child was 7 or 17, it is still rape. RAPE.
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Actually it DOES very much matter to the psychologists, judges and other experts who assess risk. Very much. A liaison with a young woman who has been through puberty does not suggest a person is a danger to small children. They are both rape, I never said otherwise. Please don't confuse a discussion of the degrees of risk to one's own children as some kind of defense of him--not at all.
One act puts his OWN CHILDREN at very, very grave risk. One just puts women in general at risk, if at all. The first group is far, far less able to self protect and thus in much, much more danger.
I can tell you this, we rarely get petitions about statutory rape. All the experts recognize that usually that does not put one's own children at risk. But you can bet if you start raping small children, they'll take all your kids and won't let you be around any kids at all. There is something wrong with your brain when you start talking pre-puberty.
We'll find out, but guarantee you if it was a 17 year old and not his own child, he will not lose custody of his children or be labeled a danger to other children. But if it was pre-puberty, he will. Watch.
You bet your bottom dollar it matters to your own child's safety whether someone in your neighborhood is a pedophile, or convicted of statutory rape. One you need to move. The other, you're okay, just keep an eye on it.
Another clue this is statutory rape of an older child is how the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation describes it in more benign terms, as a "sexual encounter." If it were a younger child I hope they would use stronger language. Sexual encounter implies no resistance from the other party.
I hope to god for his own children that he is not a pedophile. Also did you see the part about how he fled the state, then proudly posted family photos on social media in the other state? Lol, arrested right after.
I hope to god for his own children that he is not a pedophile. Also did you see the part about how he fled the state, then proudly posted family photos on social media in the other state? Lol, arrested right after.
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Not the sharpest tool in the box. That should go on the "dumb criminal" list.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 145 Another clue this is statutory rape of an older child is how the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation describes it in more benign terms, as a "sexual encounter." If it were a younger child I hope they would use stronger language. Sexual encounter implies no resistance from the other party.
Good job, TLC. Good job.
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Admin, you are so right. Sexual encounter sounds like casual lovers. IF, it is a child under 12 and they are saying sexual encounter, that is SO WRONG!
When they were on AGT, there was just something not quite right. I couldn't put my finger on it. I wonder if his wife knew.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 141 I think in the back, or front of her mind, this is another reason TFW sent Collin away. If he were doing anything at all that would cause TLC to say we just can't film anymore (NOT suggesting sexual abuse of course, but anything harmful at all to others), then the whole of production would be shut down. But if she banishes him from the home and thus, filming, then they can't shut down filming over him.
I also think it's entirely possible TLC already said they're not filming unless he's not part of it (due to obvious stress on him, liability, etc). Which again leads back to choosing filming over him, if true. _________
Could TLC really think they have a show called Kate Plus 8 when it's only Plus 7? Are the two puppies supposed to = Collin? That's just crazy. At the very least, they're going to have to be a lot clearer about what his problems are--although I suppose K8 will make up some BS on the couch. But who is really going to buy this?
If TLC is not seriously considering dropping ALL of its reality programming that includes minors, then its management is seriously out of touch.
There is no possible way that any court will overlook an accusation of child rape REGARDLESS of the age of the MINOR child and allow a parent to retain custody of the children in his own house.
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Oh yeah? Wanna bet?
Actually, the California Court of Appeal has ruled definitely that statuary rape with an older child does NOT put your own children at risk, or even a child who is a product of the union.
You can start by reading the California case In re B.T. It invoked a 30 something year old woman and a teenage boy, but they were very clear it goes both ways. She was allowed to keep her own children, and the Courts found very clearly her children were NOT at risk due to her actions. Solid law, hasn't been reversed. Review denied by the CA Supreme Court--they don't want to go near it.
I can tell you definitely, statutory rape cases are rarely filed here and when they are, they are almost always dismissed. In re B.T. It is what it is.
Given that we don't yet know the age of the victim or whether the crime was by force, this is kind of a moot point. Facts do matter in determining risk. There is no one sized fits all. All rapes do not put younger children at risk, per our own courts. Don't like it, write Sacramento.
If TLC is not seriously considering dropping ALL of its reality programming that includes minors, then its management is seriously out of touch.
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I actually think they are at a serious crossroads right now. There's been way too many scandals at this point, with this latest Willis crime. There is a heck of a lot of liability involved in reality shows, and a heck of a lot of risk. They have poured a lot of money into shows that went belly up. They're in the middle of a huge contractual dispute with several shows whose future is also uncertain for that reason. Add to that the waning nature of reality shows and falling ratings across the board. I would be shocked if they're not sitting around the board room this month trying to figure out how to tear this network down and start all over. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a big shake up coming soon, with a bunch of layoffs and new management.
If I were Kate, I'd be shitting myself right now. Nothing is certain about her future or this networks future 's matter how much she brags about a summer of filming. They could tear everything down tomorrow and start over with home improvement shows and scripted TV. They're under no obligation to continue with what they do now.
TLC seems to have learned something post-Duggar. The Willis Family FB page run by TLC has been pulled, at least for now. They never did that with any of their Duggar pages---even 19 Kids and Counting is still up and running.
I wonder if they will use fillers of film shot of Collin previously to make up the "8" business. They could have changed it to Kate Plus Kids and leave Collin's business out of it but Kate has always been so silly and insistent about the number 8 with her "egg-cellent" jokes and boasting of her large number of children, naming recipes such as K8's Salad. etc
Oh and another thing that should scare anyone with a reality show on TLC, there really wouldn't be many other alternate networks to run to if TLC ever dumps them. I think Kate used to think she could pop right over to Oxygen or Lifetime if she ever lost her show. Not anymore.
The reality show heyday is over. You used to be able to find all kinds of shows like TLC's everywhere. Now if anyone gets dumped, they'll be homeless. The reality shows other networks are looking for now are much raunchier and seem to follow a very different format of five or six biologically unrelated characters who happen to flow in the same circles (Little Women, Born This Way, Real Housewives). No one wants to watch a family wander around the country on vacation or singing or whatever.
2011 out of Orange County. Been the law for over five years now, and we are obligated, under the law, to follow it here. And we do.
https://casetext.com/case/in-re-bt-2
"While her relationship with Miguel certainly reflected poorly upon her judgment in one area, nothing suggested that it would cause her to neglect or abuse her baby daughter, especially since there was no evidence at all of any past abuse of her three other children, or of any other children."
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 156 Oh and another thing that should scare anyone with a reality show on TLC, there really wouldn't be many other alternate networks to run to if TLC ever dumps them. I think Kate used to think she could pop right over to Oxygen or Lifetime if she ever lost her show. Not anymore. ___________
There IS the UP network, but I think they're too religion-focused for Kate's current incarnation. And they surely won't pay close to what TLC does.
This article is from last year but it does give some of the child molest cases that happened before the whole Josh thing and willis.Im just shocked that the TLC company hasnt been investigate and doing background checks of all the people who work for TLC at this point with so many cases. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/05/22/does-discoverytlc-have-child-molester-problem.html
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (CLARKSVILLENOW) – Special Agents from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation have arrested the father of the country group, The Willis Clan, in connection to an ongoing child rape investigation.
According to a press release, agents began investigating Toby Nathaniel Willis (DOB 4-29-70) on August 29. During the course of the investigation, Agents developed information Willis had a sexual encounter approximately 12 years ago with an underage female. The investigation into Willis remains active and ongoing.
Today, TBI Agents arrested the 46-year-old in Greenville, Kentucky, where he travelled in an effort to avoid law enforcement, and charged him with one count of Rape of a Child.
At the time of this release, he was being held in the Muhlenberg County Jail without bond on a Fugitive from Justice warrant. He will ultimately face extradition to Cheatham County, where once booked, he will be held in the Cheatham County Jail without bond.
Well, look who just popped on to Twitter. For the first time in weeks? And it looks like she's going on a tear, lol.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 33s34 seconds ago @lord_carolyn SO glad!Send it 2me!Go 2 my website/email me & I'll give u info on how2get it 2 me &back to u signed❤️ http://Kateplusmy8.com
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 @msgoody2shoes21 This made our night! Literally! I've never seen some of that footage and we watched it over and over again! Thank you!❤️ _____
The first "memory" is Collin exploring the camera with the cameraman.
"Debra made a grave mistake, regardless of whether she or Miguel is telling the truth about their relationship. But depriving B.T. of her mother's care as punishment for this mistake is not in keeping with the purpose of the dependency statutes and is inexplicable in any terms other than misplaced moral outrage."
Jeez-o-wow! You wonder why when you look at fathers this creep and Jim Boob, that hairs on the back of your neck stand up. I tell ya, TLC really knows how to pick'em.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 @msgoody2shoes21 This made our night! Literally! I've never seen some of that footage and we watched it over and over again! Thank you!❤️ ---------------------- What a moron. That link is from the Kate Plus 8 FB page. Seems Kate's out of the loop with TLC (who obviously runs the page)
My thought was that he might have volunteered his services. Many parents do at their kids' schools, especially with special functions. Not that anyone would ever expect Kate to. **** Me, too. A couple kids in our family got Bruce to do an annual fundraising concert at their school. Lucky parents!
If you're worried about the airbag, that means you should not be putting him up front. So why the hell do you put him in the front until you know whether that is enough weight to trigger our airbag or whether he's far enough back? Wondering and worrying about the airbag isn't enough. She's unbelievably irresponsible. ***** Because Kate is a walking Id?
If you're worried about the airbag, that means you should not be putting him up front. So why the hell do you put him in the front until you know whether that is enough weight to trigger our airbag or whether he's far enough back? Wondering and worrying about the airbag isn't enough. She's unbelievably irresponsible. ***** Because Kate is a walking Id?
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I can't get over this. Like I said, it would be better if she just didn't think of the airbag. But, she thought of it! Wondered if she should be concerned! And yet still put him up there.
The first is just idiocy. Which arguably, is just genetic.
The second is knowingly and actively putting the pet in harm's way and doing nothing about it. That's intent.
My thought was that he might have volunteered his services. Many parents do at their kids' schools, especially with special functions. Not that anyone would ever expect Kate to. **** Me, too. A couple kids in our family got Bruce to do an annual fundraising concert at their school. Lucky parents!
IF, it is a child under 12 and they are saying sexual encounter, that is SO WRONG!
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I agree. If he's a pedophile, call a spade a spade. Can't wait to see the police reports on this one. ********* Can't wait for you to explain more to us ;-) Dude looks like the Unabomber.
What a moron. That link is from the Kate Plus 8 FB page. Seems Kate's out of the loop with TLC (who obviously runs the page) __________
You can tell she never even looks at that page, let alone participate in it in any way. I guess that's "not supposed to be part of it," lol. It's also very possible, having seen what a mess her Twitter has turned into, that TLC prefers her to stay away.
The first is just idiocy. Which arguably, is just genetic.
The second is knowingly and actively putting the pet in harm's way and doing nothing about it. That's intent. ________
B-b-b-but Admin! Her only "intent" here is the photo op. She needed that photo op! You can't have expected her to bring in two new PUPPIES and not be able to use them for photo ops! Why should anyone be surprised that she's using her new #FurKids in exactly the same way she's used her "#Plus8?
I think there was another TLC parent star who was charged with rape a couple of years ago - a mother who was charged with the rape of a young boy. I can't remember the show, or her name.
TLC sure does have a nasty track record with its reality shows, doesn't it? Honey Boo Boo= Mama June dated a child molester even after he molested her own daughter. 19 Kids and Counting=Josh molested his sisters and cheated on his wife. The Willis Family=Dad apparently raped a child. Kate Plus 8=Mom abused kids, exploited kids, sent one child away. Oh, and a pedophile producer worked on the show. Time for TLC to find a new format.
I checked out the K+8 Facebook page, and there are comments from viewers in South Africa saying that season 4 is airing there. One said she is bored to tears with the show and Kate complains constantly that the KIDS are dysfunctional.
Jeez-o-wow! You wonder why when you look at fathers this creep and Jim Boob, that hairs on the back of your neck stand up. I tell ya, TLC really knows how to pick'em.
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LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Their track record is horrible. They're trying to recover from the Duggar Disaster and now this. I wonder how many more scandals are waiting in the wings, ripe for exposure. I am glad that the Hayes family, who appeared normal and too boring for viewers, according to TLC, was cancelled. They got out from under the dreaded TLC curse.
At the time of this release, he was being held in the Muhlenberg County Jail without bond on a Fugitive from Justice warrant. He will ultimately face extradition to Cheatham County, where once booked, he will be held in the Cheatham County Jail without bond.
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xxxxxxxxxxx @DonutsForCollin @lord_carolyn Hair stinks too - puts awful stuff on it bc she over bleached it - never shampoos it. #Wheew!! @kateplusmy8
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xxxxxxxxxxxx Wonder if they were mortified by Kate Gosselin beating the crap out of Collin causing brain damage&she sent him away
I think I'd be really careful about tweeting something like this as fact.
It's amazing that every single one of 12 children has musical talent. How does that happen? What would happen if they had a tone-deaf child who could not learn to play an instrument?
Am i the only one that thinks this snowbunny person is a fan sock? Sara Snow @SNOWBUNNY_2015 6h6 hours ago
@ellamenopea @servant81 Its Jon's reputation that people don't want at the school. He may flip someone off or yank out his dick and pee 0 retweets 0 likes
I think there was another TLC parent star who was charged with rape a couple of years ago - a mother who was charged with the rape of a young boy. I can't remember the show, or her name.
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Wasn't that the Mom in Cheer Perfection? Andrea, something or other...?
I think the situation does matter. If a girl of maybe 16 yrs old goes to a bar or other place with adults, pretends to be an adult, claims to be 18, and has sex willingly, the man might be charged with statutory rape by law but I don't believe he is a danger to kids. If there is force or a young child, then he is a predator.
That tweet, claiming Jon can't DJ because he would pull his d*** out, is disgusting. Kate has lovely fans. Such high class people.
jamezvader1194 said... 184 Am i the only one that thinks this snowbunny person is a fan sock? Sara Snow @SNOWBUNNY_2015 6h6 hours ago
@ellamenopea @servant81 Its Jon's reputation that people don't want at the school. He may flip someone off or yank out his dick and pee 0 retweets 0 likes
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I'm pretty sure the sara snowbunny is the old Cows person
I'm pretty sure the sara snowbunny is the old Cows person ________
But wasn't she virulently anti-Kate?
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She was virulently anti-everyone! Very unpredictable
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2057 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1801 – 2000 of 2057 Newer› Newest»For the hundredth time, if Jon was doing some horrible, heinous, reprehensible thing:
1. TFW would be SHOUTING it from the rooftops
2. the other children would not be allowed visitation
Instead, we're treated to this wink wink,nudge nudge nonsense without a syllable of fact or explanation. And please don't say TFW is keeping it private -- heifer doesn't know the meaning of the word.
That was in response to Kate exploiting her children. Here's the full sentence: She can "go out and talk about the kids anytime she wants . . .She can go and f---ing die."
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I would have said "she can go f*ck herself", but that's just me. What Jon said (and several other things he's said) was wrong. Should not have been said with a camera (or reporter) there. No doubt.
I could see his frustration, and actually thought he was going to cry. Kate blocked him from speaking with his kids for 2 weeks (I believe). Who does that?
I have heard and read Jon apologize to his kids for things he's said and done, and recognize that he will have a lot of explaining to do.
I'll take that over a parent who's motto is "no regrets!!!!!!!!"
When the kids go to Jon in the future, and express their hurt and anger, he will listen and I'm willing to bet, he'll atone and ask forgiveness. Kate? You're kidding me, right?
A comment was just made that maybe C was sent
away because filming was too stressful for him. If that's true, is the point that we think TFW
had the choice between STOPPING FILMING, and sending her 12-year-old son away, and she chose the latter? If that's the case, is that
not the most reprehensible thing a parent could
do?
I don't even care if they were under contract. TFW could've broken the contract, paid whatever fines there might have been (which she would've gotten out of anyway), sold the house, got a nursing job, and moved to a freaking tenement apartment if it would've meant keeping her family together.
I was gonna say, if she sent Collin away because he couldn't handle filming, then she chose filming over him. That's just heinous.
I was gonna say, if she sent Collin away because he couldn't handle filming, then she chose filming over him. That's just heinous.
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I think this is exactly what it is. Dealing with a kid who has a behaviour problem, does affect the whole family. That being said, they need to be around the family to learn coping strategies (both the child and the parents), to deal with all situations.
We walked on eggshells around our son for many years, until we learned how to help him deal with it, and not escalate the situation. And that comes from many years of therapy for him, and US.
Yes, kids need consistency, but you can't "prepare" the world for your child - you need to prepare your child for the world (and I'm talking about kids with behaviourial and emotional issues only). And it takes work.
It just seems to me that Kate thinks by throwing money at the issue will solve the problem. Just call Mr. Psychologist-Man to fix it!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 4
I was gonna say, if she sent Collin away because he couldn't handle filming, then she chose filming over him. That's just heinous.
September 8, 2016 at 12:14 PM
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I think making things easier to film (one school with one schedule) factored into Kate's decision, even if it was an unintended windfall.
Yes, I think she's that terrible.
What I can not fathom is Kate deciding to shut down filming and the whole fame machine for Colin's sake, in order to take all that distraction and stress out of the equation, and be able to devote unlimited resources towards his care.
In fact, I think one day soon, we'll hear Kate say that she sent Colin away for the sake of the 7 other children.
Boo hoo. Sniff, sniff. Dab, dab.
7. A medical need is required to impatient a person, and the family is involved.
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I have to believe that this was not at all Kate's choice. Can you imagine her panic at the thought of Collin telling people all about his home life? Food rationing, being locked in the basement as toddlers?
She must be chewing her manicured nails at the thought that CPS may just come for more kids. Wouldn't you think that CPS has interrogated people at TLC? That maybe that is why her shows are not being aired? TLC just might want to keep a fair distance from her at this point.
7. A medical need is required to impatient a person, and the family is involved.
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For public institutions, absolutely. You have to meet the various state and federal guidelines to qualify for placement. They don't take any kid whose parent just wants them there.
Not for private though. She may very well be able to institutionalize a child who could be well serviced in home and would be rejected by public placements because of the ability to service him in home. If she goes private and works it out with them, she can absolutely do so for a child who does not NEED to be institutionalized.
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In fact, I think one day soon, we'll hear Kate say that she sent Colin away for the sake of the 7 other children.
Boo hoo. Sniff, sniff. Dab, dab.
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I said this above, this has already been written into a script someplace. It's all been carefully (and obviously) orchestrated. At least by Kate. Hard to tell whether and to what extent TLC's had any input into this.
Tucker's Mom (#7), I commented when this first broke that TFW made sure to stress that it was hard for the other 7 because her attention was
so focused on C. I also commented that I could not imagine this unlikely scenario. Can't you just picture big-hearted, laser-focused TFW -- patience personified -- giving body and soul 24/7 for her challenged child, while the other poor urchins vie for a crumb of her time and attention?
Yeah, me neither.
And speaking of attention...isn't this the beginning of the school year for her 7 kids at home? Wouldn't you think TFW would be a bit busier with their lives as they begin a new grade? And maybe taking some extra time to comfort and support them during this time of transition, when they might be missing their brother? Perhaps she is. But she seems to be putting a lot of effort towards her image rehab via these obnoxious puppy posts, which makes
me think it's just business as usual at Miss Gosselin's House for Exploited Children.
Thank God they don't perform lobotomies any more.
I don't even care if they were under contract. TFW could've broken the contract, paid whatever fines there might have been (which she would've gotten out of anyway), sold the house, got a nursing job, and moved to a freaking tenement apartment if it would've meant keeping her family together.
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The argument that Kate HAS to film because she has 8 kids has always been specious at best (based on countless millions of Americans, over many generations, supporting their families-even large families-without selling the children's privacy and YES, even with a single-parent income). After a divorce and fracture of the family, after 2 children are expelled from school for behavioral problems, after years of Jon and Kate spewing vitriol, and now after Colin's need are so great, he must be placed in an inpatient program, that argument is actually twisted, cruel and worst of all, SELF-SERVING.
The sheep don't want Kate to go away. They don't want her gone from their tv screens. They don't want her social media and media appearances to go away. No. They want what they feel they are entitled to, and that's watching these children like flies on a wall, like little fish in an aquarium.
They will die arguing Kate's right-by-birthing to use them for filming, promotion, fodder and tabloid filler as she fits, but they will not utter ONE PEEP about the downsides for the kids.
Nope. When this Nuremberg-worthy social experiment finally goes tits up, they'll just move on to the next fame-hungry set of parents willing to sell their kids for money.
She must be chewing her manicured nails at the thought that CPS may just come for more kids.
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Makes ya wonder about the lack of commitment from TLC. But who knows, she'll probably turn up like a bad penny in Oct.
The advise to the children, "Don't settle" is just unnerving to me. If that is all your parent has to give you, boy is that a brick shy of a load or what? TFW views her kids and their lives through warped lenses. This mess will not end well. Already began falling off of the rails yrs. ago. Colin is only the first casualty. There will be more. Those kids will someday realize they were brought in to the world to make their mother famous. Remember, "don't settle." One baby would never be enough. Not enough "look at me" to that. TFW orchestrated this whole thing. When they realize the truth from fiction, they may dislike her intensely. When the money starts being doled out, could get very ugly for sure.
Kate Gosselin Makes More Troubling Confessions About Parenting Her 8 Kids
Kate Gosselin has come under fire in the past for parenting choices she made for her eight kids — and in her book, I Just Want You to Know, she recounted more horrifying experiences she put her brood through.
The 41-year-old admitted to letting her children play with shaving cream, in addition to dressing them in garbage bags and not paying attention to their health.
"The blood was everywhere! I still don't know what happened to Leah, and that left me a bit unsettled,” she explained.
For more jaw-dropping parenting confessions, check out Kate’s book I Just Want You to Know.
Once again, I'm reading these brief posts from folks I don't even know, and the love, caring and commitment to their children with challenges comes through clear as a bell.
Nothing opaque about it. It warms my heart.
What happened to the psych evaluation Jon wanted Kate to have? Wonder if she had it and was recommended for her!
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I said this above, this has already been written into a script someplace. It's all been carefully (and obviously) orchestrated. At least by Kate. Hard to tell whether and to what extent TLC's had any input into this.
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I think TLC had very little, if any, input into the famewhore's latest People Cover and subsequent quest for publicity.
The Kate + 8 FB page is dead, her show is not on the schedule, there are no ads for the show being run, and the silence from TLC in general about Kate and the remaining 7 ATM's is deafening.
Colin does need a real diagnosis, with a name, to get the services provided at school or at PT, OT, speech. He needs a label (much as we hate that). Insurance companies also want a diagnosis. (Do they have insurance?) To isolate him in the basement with a nanny, no diagnosis necessary. In PA to homeschool you must turn in something of a curriculum plan. But you can easily buy the curriculum. There is really no certainty that any government agency checked on Colin.
Those dogs are not therapy dogs. They appear to have arrived around when Colin left. And therapy dogs need training. Buying a dog and hugging it can be pleasant but doesn't make it a therapy dog.
I agree for most families it is very hard to send a child away. It affects everyone. It is not normal to send a child away and announce it with happy smiling faces in People.
I forgot. Milo, Kate is not kissing the dog's paws. Never. She is acting for these pics and comments. None of it is real emotions. I am (sorry) a dog hater like Kate has always shown herself to be. Dog haters can become dog tolerators but do not switch over to dog lovers in one month.
In fact, I think one day soon, we'll hear Kate say that she sent Colin away for the sake of the 7 other children.
Boo hoo. Sniff, sniff. Dab, dab.
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Do you mean the same way she filed the lawsuit for the safety and welfare of the children? History may have repeated itself!
I think her IG frenzy showing her mad crush on her puppies is a bit odd. Of course, so is Kate.
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Is Zorro a castaway, banished to parts unknown now that the puppies are her new shiny toys?
Bingo. She has way more time on her hands than most single SAHMs, and we see how she spends it. Taking endless photos of her new "babies" and deleting all the negative IG comments as they appear. Or maybe she hires someone to do that. Either way, she is more or less perfectly positioned to deal with this at home, but she has CHOSEN not to. She'd like to say it's for the sake of her other kids, but that's really not believable to me. The other kids never treated Collin as a pariah on the show (well, no more than any other icky boy), SHE was the one who always had a problem with him.
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But could it be that she is just too darn dumb (okay, stupid) to know how to help him? She's not the sharpest tool in the shed and judging from her past actions and parenting, she has no patience whatsoever.
This family is almost an advertisement for boarding schools lol.
Well, Kate did let Mady's tooth rot, but the garbage bags were for a surprise rainstorm at the zoo, and the shaving cream for a craft.
PA Dutch Mom said... 24
But could it be that she is just too darn dumb (okay, stupid) to know how to help him? She's not the sharpest tool in the shed and judging from her past actions and parenting, she has no patience whatsoever.
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I don't think she's overly bright, but the one thing I'm 100% certain about is that she's fundamentally lazy. She's always looking for the easy way out.
The Collin story has recalled for me (odd, I know) the movie Body Heat. Remember the end, with Kathleen Turner on a beautiful island, having sociopathed her way to a big pile of money? I see Kate sitting in that lounger in a few years, the same blank unruffled stare on her face, as her adult children back home try to navigate the world with a set of warped views on top of a heaping helping of psychoses. Oh and PB is sitting next to her, of course, pouring the champagne and applying the 150 SPF sunblock.
Susan1956 (#19), I agree that TLC has not been a factor in this whole People fiasco. I don't see them giving much of a hoot about anything she does right now.
I almost imagine TLC like a guy who's broken up with a girl, but she doesn't really want to accept it. Then she calls him to say she's going to start seeing other people and the guy thinks, um, well, I broke up with you, so I couldn't care less, but, okay, whatever, good luck with that.
TLC has, for the most part, moved on from TFW.
They'll continue to use her for profit (like a side piece), but that's the extent of their relationship. Her days as their golden girl are long behind her.
This article is a few years old but supports that Collin was historically a target. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Ex-nanny-details-Kate-Gosselins-strict-literal-rule-book.html?mobi=true
However, it was a particular spanking incident that caused the nanny to abandon her position with the Gosselin family:
The nanny said that she ultimately quit after witnessing certain behavior she was uncomfortable with, such as Kate spanking son Colin—whom she described as the "busiest" of the eight kids and the one most often in trouble—with a plastic spoon in front of his brothers and sisters
Apparently Deanna has be away according to milo.I wonder how long she has been? Fired Up 4 Kate
@MiloandJack
LOL Saw this & immediately thought of your friend...my twitter bud @deannatweeting! Miss her wit! https://www.instagram.com/p/BKC35UOAftO/?taken-by=positiveenergy_plus … @Kateplusmy8
Hmm could Deanna's disappearance be a clue?Didn't someone here admitted to following Deanna on twitter and said she hasn't said anything since that whole twitter fiasco with Jon?I would think that if she was still around she'd at least try to tell all her follows that all is well with Collin without the haters knowing what she saids because she is private.
I think she just went private at the end of last "season." She'll probably reappear on Twitter when/if the new episodes air.
Gladys misses Deanna's wit? Yeah, that night Deanna eviscerated the father of 8 children on Twitter, revealing personal information about minor children which she had no business sharing, she was a real hoot.
Sad but true said... 27
PA Dutch Mom said... 24
But could it be that she is just too darn dumb (okay, stupid) to know how to help him? She's not the sharpest tool in the shed and judging from her past actions and parenting, she has no patience whatsoever.
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I don't think she's overly bright, but the one thing I'm 100% certain about is that she's fundamentally lazy. She's always looking for the easy way out.
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Khate is one of those people who just cannot understand quid pro quo sort of things. Simple things like if you have a house you want to see for 500k but in it's current condition it's only worth 425k, if you put 25k into refurbishing it you can sell it for the full 500k. She would refuse to spend the 25k to add make 50k.
Apparently Deanna has be away according to milo.I wonder how long she has been? Fired Up 4 Kate
@MiloandJack
LOL Saw this & immediately thought of your friend...my twitter bud @deannatweeting! Miss her wit! https://www.instagram.com/p/BKC35UOAftO/?taken-by=positiveenergy_plus … @Kateplusmy8
She doesn't say that Deanna is away, only that she misses her wit. It could be that Deanna is ignoring her.
Her twitter bud? You know, Milo really is a sad, pathetic, lonely little person. I don't know if it's male or female, but there are times that I really do feel sorry for him or her. Yes, Gladys is obnoxious, obsessed and is desperately in love with Kate and is a leech when it comes to Kate's friends, but maybe in order to get attention, Milo takes on the persona of a strong, domineering bold and brash person, but is really nothing more than a mouse in the house.
Simple things like if you have a house you want to see for 500k but in it's current condition it's only worth 425k, if you put 25k into refurbishing it you can sell it for the full 500k.
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My math is horrible, but if you have a house that's worth 425,000 in its current condition, but you want to sell it for 500,000, how is putting 25,000 into it going to bring it to a sale price of 500,000?
I need a drink.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
@theresalingar @Kateplusmy8 I agree! She is a very responsible dedicated & loving Mom who not once even thought of walking away! #KidsFirst
She only wanted the kids in order to keep the show going, and hey, TLC was willing to pay the price. #KateFirst
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5m5 minutes ago
@theresalingar @Kateplusmy8 I agree! She is a very responsible dedicated & loving Mom who not once even thought of walking away! #KidsFirst
Oh, MIlo. Foot in mouth. She didn't have to think of walking away. All she had to do was to send her son away! Problem solved.
Well I have some Bullyville news, and it's good. Do any of the old timers here remember when McGiblets, just to be an asshat, bought up a bunch of domain names that had no relation to him? Including people's business names, and people's first and last names?? He did it to that guy that sued him. Well I found out when I tried to buy my real, legal name domain a couple years ago (i.e. john smith.com) that that little turd had bought it! The F!! I really wanted it for my photography portfolio, and i was pissed he was holding it hostage.
I filed numerous complaints to the domain company that slowly churned through and I believe as part of his SLAPP suit he was ordered to release all his domains he had no business owning. My domain was just released and I bought it! It's all mine now!
He may have had the upper hand for a little while with RTK, but in the end, we prevailed.
I'd bet the farm that Milo pesters the heck out of Deanna, Jamie, others in Kate's "circle," and when they see Milo's string of tweets and DMs, they bang there heads on the wall and mumble, "STFU, just STUFU." She's just too dumb to know it. Milo is NOTHING to those people, nothing at all, and yet for some reason I bet she thinks that they enjoy communicatin' with her.
Since Kate abandoned her coupon site and no longer scours the internet for deals, where does Milo buy her petite slacks, or does she run around naked as a jay bird, much to LOM's delight or displeasure, however you want to look at it?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 39
Good for you, Admin. The reports over at the Viaview Files on what's happening with the domains he bought up have been a bit murky. McGoober is (rather unbelievably given his professed state of penury) appealing the Texas appellate court verdict against him, so I don't think anyone expected there'd be any movement on the domains yet. I am sure there are people who will be interested in seeing whether their name-domains have been released. So thanks for mentioning this.
He did it to that guy that sued him. Well I found out when I tried to buy my real, legal name domain a couple years ago (i.e. john smith.com) that that little turd had bought it!
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Old timer here! Good news indeed. We always said that it might take some time, but in the end, he would do something to someone who would take him down. He thought he was invincible. He was wrong.
Little turd? LOL! Yes, I guess that really sums him up. Two words and it's perfect! Is he still Kate's Knight in Shining Armor, and Milo's hero? It's said that one is known by the company one keeps. Speaks volumes about McNubbles and his cronies/internet buddies.
Oh, Congrats, Admin!! Woo Hoo!
I love your photo of the big pier at the beach. Remember I said it looked like a big dinosaur going into the water? I love that picture! I would love to save it in my documents again.
It's in my documents, but I can't find it.
Thank you Flimsy!
My apologies to Marilyn McCoo, too! lol
Admin, congratulations! Small victory.
But, do you mean your real name isn't Admin? I have to think about that!
Milo's up at 7 a.m. supportin' her girl! Now that's devotion.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
#Courage >> #SingleMoms who make the difficult decisions to achieve the better future for their kids! @Kateplusmy8
Platitude:
Ten years from now, make sure
you can say that you chose
your life, you didn't
settle for it.
[Everybody get that? Key word = "settle"]
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
Excuses are for the WEAK. Responsibility is for the STRONG. Make NO EXCUSES for your decisions! Moms do what they have to do! @kateplusmy8
I wonder if all the beatings and other abuse falls under "Moms do what they have to do!"
Yeah, let's put our unrestrained puppy in the front seat. Because that's so safe. Oh and it's Mak this time.
kateplusmy8 He's just becoming a regular car riding dog... First time in the front seat! It wasn't all THIS peaceful but he did really well overall! Love my 'Mackers' #Mak #NanuqInTheBackSeat
Collin leaves; cue puppies to make the kids less likely to balk or be afraid. Added bonus, pictures for IG and filming plot. So transparent. Kate is a demon. Hope TLC realizes this is a scandal waiting to be exposed. Filming over what's best for the kids' mental health.
Hooray, Admin! I'm thrilled for you! McGibney also created multiple websites in non-fans names and often filled them with disparaging information. Hope they're also successful!
Admin, right on! Good for you for fighting the good fight.
Dmasy (#45), I knew all along her name wasn't Admin. But I admit I'm surprised to find out it's John Smith!
"Mackers?" I can't. Gladys will be in seventh heaven with more nicknames. Gotta love how she claims TFW "not once even thought of walking away." She knows her private thoughts, but we were made fun of because we were "mind readers." She's never met TFW in her life, not even once. But she knows what she thinks. And last week
she got very irate when someone scolded her for posting C's picture, and sputtered that we have
no idea of her relationship with the G family. All kidding aside, guys, her adulation has gone
a step further, and I find it concerning.
If "excuses are for the WEAK," why has having 8 kids been TFW's handy excuse for any wrongdoing for more than a decade? Why do the fans use it
as an excuse for her for everything, and say
we'd do the same if we had 8 kids?
Kate? I beg of you. Restrain your dogs in the car.
One of the easiest, cheapest, and safest ways to do it is to just pop their crate in the car and run a seatbelt through the handle. Put the dog in and you're done. This is how I've always restrained my dog in the car and he's taken to BOLTING for his crate when we go for car rides, excited to make himself comfortable on the blankets and start looking around at the scenery. He loves it. He's safe, and so are the other passengers. If you always do this, they associate it with how they travel and will happily comply.
Read this: "Car accident test simulations, done using a 12-pound canine crash test dummy, showed that at a speed of only 30 mph, an unrestrained dog will strike a barrier with 650 pounds of force on impact. On top of this, in the event of a car accident, unrestrained animals will most likely try to escape a vehicle if windows are broken and can then easily get lost or hit by other vehicles."
Admin (#52), don't interrupt TFW's love fest with logic.
Of course everything you said makes complete sense, and the issue is so easily addressed with the crate. And if Gladys is truly the dog lover she professes to be, she'll recommend that to TFW.
Right after she reads about it here.
Good for you, Admin. The reports over at the Viaview Files on what's happening with the domains he bought up have been a bit murky. McGoober is (rather unbelievably given his professed state of penury) appealing the Texas appellate court verdict against him, so I don't think anyone expected there'd be any movement on the domains yet. I
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I noticed mine was set to expire this summer so I've been watching it waiting to see if it would be freed up. Sure enough he didnt renew it! 't took I think about a month after it expired to be able to purchase it. I guess there's some kind of waiting period.
I haven't been able to find out if anyone else has been able to get their domain too, but I'm wondering if they may all be due to expire at different times, depending on when he bought them.
With everything that is going on, I can see him not bothering to renew some of these domains as they come up for renewal. Especially if he knows deep down he's about to lose them anyway. That's a real waste of money. I think he's got so much else to worry about now, renewing my domain wasn't on his to do list. In any case, I'm thrilled to have it! Finally!
I realize the block button on IG is reserved for haters, but if Katie doesn't watch out, this guy, her newest BFF, is gonna run the innocent right off her page. Does he really think that the entire world MUST know exactly when Kate got these pups? He's almost as idiotic as Milo, but in a different way. Perfect.
sosachoff Puppy is soooo cute!!!! 6 months old yet?
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nick_moy@samyahsshennaq Did you just got out of a coma? Kate just got 2 puppies about 5 months ago. Oh.. in case you didn't know Obama was elected for a 2nd term in office.
Good job, Admin! Good news is welcome here for sure.
"A big party in Ohio ended with 73 arrests, including some Amish teens. Police say the party was for the teens to celebrate "Rumspringa," a rite of passage for Amish teens to take part in "English" activities. Thirty-five minors and 38 adults were arrested."
Okay, so who is their supplier? That's probably why there is a shortage of Rumspringa over here! It's all in Ohio!
And last week
she got very irate when someone scolded her for posting C's picture, and sputtered that we have
no idea of her relationship with the G family. All kidding aside, guys, her adulation has gone
a step further, and I find it concerning.
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She's in the last stage of CW. I wonder if there's anything beyond that. Scary, huh? I just don't have good feelings about her intimate 'relationship' with Kate and the kids. Something's gotta give.
I wonder if all the beatings and other abuse falls under "Moms do what they have to do!"
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And stoning, as in Biblical times and other lands.
Sad but true (#55), oh, my! Is that really the Nick Moy guy, or is someone pretending to be him? That's an awfully snotty comment, and there was
no silly emoticon that may have softened it, like he was teasing. Are fans supposed to keep a TFW calendar to chronicle all the comings and goings at Miss Gosselin's House For Exploited Children?
Maybe they can hire Em Tanner to make new one for them, to reflect the current G family structure:
7 kids, 3 dogs, one bird, and a shrew.
@Admin thats great news admin,hopefully the other domains will follow up as well.I've seen so many tweets by bullyville on his main and sock accounts and the guy doesnt sound like someone who's a bully fighter.From his tweets he sounds like an immature psychopath.In fact the funny thing is that if you look up his real name "James Mcgibney"you actually get the site Viaviewfiles which is the site thats against him and his bullville website comes up 7th in the search results.It sounds like his website is as died as Kate's timeline.
Jon has been talking about how he doesn't see his kids - and not knowing why - for months. Cara and Mady finally said what we all have been saying.... Jon knows why.
4. Everyone says wait until Mady and Cara are 18 to write a book about Kate. Well they are almost 16 and saying that their dad knows why they don't want to see them.
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They're lack of ANY specifics about what exactly it is about their father that's so terrible, and adult-like phrases like "he knows the reason why", "toxic", etc., are CLASSIC signs of parental alienation. Just classic. Eventually they will realize they have been alienated, and will be damaged and resentful about it, make no mistake.
I think Phila 4 gave great insight. Admin-you all have been harping for days that Kate said too much and have been speculating about Collin. Maybe Mady did indeed take the high road and not embarrass her father for living a rogue teenagers life. She didn't say, "Look, my dad was on a gross TV show talking about masturbation with a crass girlfriend, "my Dad urinated in public while talking about my Mom and us kids and he doesn't care enough to involve himself in our lives"....Mady summed up what Jon is and that is toxic. Mady is know dummy and that word is not at all a reach for someone as precocious as she is. I think Jon knows the twins are likely embarrassed by his lifestyle. If anyone alienated themselves it was Jon. Mady and Cara can easily survey what he has done and hasn't done since the divorce.
I can imagine what the twins thought of his drunken live feed flipping people off with his hat on backwards. Mady gets to choose her words and feelings weather you like it or not, just like this poster did a fine job expressing her opinions.
I am not excusing Kate for the article, but I am sure not laying this at Mady's feet.
Jon is exactly in the position he earned.
As a teen my parent's went through a divorce and when my dad started dating and going places I didn't approve up it hurt our relationship a great deal. Sure he was a grown man but I was still devasted when I heard of some of his not even close to Jon's shenanigans.
Jon hasn't put the kids first since he moved off the property.
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FlimsyFlamsy said... 60
. . . the current G family structure: 7 kids, 3 dogs, one bird, and a shrew.
LOL! Good one.
@Sad but true Not sure why Nick is getting aggressive over a fan's question.That Nick person posted alot of comments on kate's IG that i swear sounds like something milo would say like this one nick_moy She's always smiling, I bet you enjoyed spoiling her. I can see in my mind how much you will spoil your grandchildren. Lol 🐕🐕🐕
Bingo. She has way more time on her hands than most single SAHMs, and we see how she spends it. Taking endless photos of her new "babies" and deleting all the negative IG comments as they appear. Or maybe she hires someone to do that. Either way, she is more or less perfectly positioned to deal with this at home, but she has CHOSEN not to. She'd like to say it's for the sake of her other kids, but that's really not believable to me. The other kids never treated Collin as a pariah on the show (well, no more than any other icky boy), SHE was the one who always had a problem with him
Again, more speculation on your part. I knew something was wrong when Leah was loading the van for the birthday party sleepover. I heard Kate say to out the bags on the right side and Leah was back tossing bags in. Collin had his bag and he was going to place it on the right side come hell or high water.
We just don't know if his temper became much worse and that he hurt some of the kids, or tried to hurt himself. If he is self harming he should be inpatient, at least for a period of time. He was homeschooled all last year and I have wondered if Andrea was the wrap around care you keep saying Kate didn't try. I think Kate did try all last year with Collin. I am not a fan of Kate but If Collin truly needed this specialized help, thank goodness she provided it. Look at Josh Duggar when the parent's tried to pray his problems away.
I hate that she did the article. I hate that both blogs are still talking about this. I hate it for this kid. As far as I am concerned every comment about what Collin needs or is being treated for is flaming his situation, my 2 included.
I wish all of you posters never started on him. I said the same thing to Sage.
I have wondered if Andrea was the wrap around care you keep saying Kate didn't try.
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HAHA. Um, NO, Andrea is not WrapAround.
WrapAround are master's degree social workers and therapists, they usually come into the home in groups of two to three, if not more. They come carrying IDs, badges, files and notebooks to document the visit. They are not 21 year old liberal arts majors kids puttering around making lasagna with the twins.
WrapAround is serious. It's not a babysitter.
I wish all of you posters never started on him
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WHAT???
Maybe Mady did indeed take the high road and not embarrass her father for living a rogue teenagers life.
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There was nothing Mady said about her father that even remotely resembled the high road. Not that that was her fault. The fact that Jon is not perfect does not mean a mother has a right to come between him and his children.
No father is perfect. No mother is perfect. Heck, no children are perfect! And the law in every state says children can and MUST see them anyway because the psychological experts have determined that but for extreme cases like sexual abuse, it is far more damaging for a child to not see a parent at all, even a lackluster one. The studies are endless about this, there's no denying this so not sure why you would even try to. I'll give you this, it's Jon's fault for not taking action and calling the f-ing cops and having his children delivered to him on his time. But it's not his fault that Kate has alienated the children in the first place such that he would have to do that to see them.
When the kids go to Jon in the future, and express their hurt and anger, he will listen and I'm willing to bet, he'll atone and ask forgiveness. Kate? You're kidding me, right?
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Maybe that is what Mady is looking for now. She is a kid. It should be Jon who steps up and says maybe those comments weren't well stated. I can see how I have embarrassed you.
Just wondering
For argument's sake, let's pretend Andrea was C's
WrapAround person. Then for the love of pete, why in the world would TFW continue to allow a camera crew to film in his home, and to shadow his family
on store trips and vacations, if his condition was as dire as it was?
Admin,
McGoober may not have renewed them because he doesn't have the money. He claims to be broke, says he can't ever buy a house or send his kids to college. Or it may be due to the fact that it doesn't sound good in court when confronted with all these domains in other peoples' names. He even bought one in the name of the opposing lawyer in his case. Try explaining that one to the judge in a way that doesn't sound menacing. Either way, it's good news for all the people who had to deal with a stranger owning domains in their names. It's just creepy that he did any of that in the first place.
That Nick guy in IG sounds like a loon. Really, does he expect that every person who may take a look at Kate's IG already knows the exact age of her puppies? Apparently he doesn't know himself, because she got them in June, and I think she said they were born in April. That would mean she got them 3 months ago, not 5. I hope that poster corrects him on his own ignorance.
The other kids certainly did treat Collin like a pariah- they would not agree to be his partner in activities, he was often sitting apart from them, the girls made rude remarks about/to him. it was mainly the girl tups, but sometimes he was just odd man out.Kate stated which kids got along and didn't mention any who got on with Collin except Hannah on rare occasions.
I wish all of you posters never started on him.
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I wish his mother didn't tell us about his special needs.
I wish his mother didn't say he was in a different school, and separated from his brothers into another bedroom.
I wish his mother didn't say she was proud of her daughter for disparaging her father.
And for the record - NO ONE here has "started in" on the child.
Give your head a shake.
If Kate hadn't made public Collin's situation, no one would be discussing it. I think Collin will find support and compassion, if he should ever read here.
With fans like these, K8 might as well invite the haters in, LOL.
samyahsshennaq NICK _MAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A SMARTASS!SO THE TWO SHEPARD SHE GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ARE GONE AND SHE GOT TWO MORE WITH THE SAME NAMES?smartass!
samyahsshennaq Sorry nick_moy smartass!
samyahsshennaq Nick_moy instead of insulting me you could have explained that the two dogs she had were returned and she got two more you don't have to be rude! I don't watch the show anymore so I didn't know this fact .
samyahsshennaq No need to respond
miloandjack2016I knew you would be game to try this!! What a JOY to have him ride #Shotgun next to you!! How long was the ride? @kateplusmy8
bevyschaI love seeing pictures of your furbabies!
miloandjack2016So I guess you could get a tag for ur car now....#PeskyPapsBeware!! #OnBoard ##MakForMom SECURITY!! Was this the vet trip for this wk? Did both pups get good report? @kateplusmy8
nick_moy@samyahsshennaq Yeah.. The 2 new dogs DOES not have the same names. Any more FACTS you want to share ? You should not start out your comments so rudely yourself.
#PeskyPapsBeware? It's not 2009, Milo, even Kate knows that.
Darn, I took the bait. My bad.
I will not try to engage with someone -- under whatever name they use or borrow -- who is trying to make us question our interest in the well being of a child.
4rmine said... 62
. . . I think Jon knows the twins are likely embarrassed by his lifestyle. If anyone alienated themselves it was Jon. Mady and Cara can easily survey what he has done and hasn't done since the divorce.
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I don't disagree that Jon has done plenty that would embarrass his kids, especially his older daughters. In fact, I said way back in this thread that I am sure the live-in girlfriends (and the number of them) were probably not a happy thing for them. And I get that, I would probably be very unhappy about that, too.
But most of what you mentioned (the TV therapy show with his GF, live-stream feed, etc.) are things that Kate hs proclaimed they have no access to. Whatever, I am sure they are way ahead of her in defying her wishes.
But are you also saying that you don't think Kate has played any part in their attitude towards him? I thought the infamous TV interviews in January 2014 ("Speak your words!") were pretty clear on this point. She purposely put them out there (or do you think they lobbied her to be on a morning show?) in order to trash their father. Instructing nannies to listen in on any conversations with their father? As if he's the enemy? Preventing the kids from calling him or taking calls from him? Do you think any of that is acceptable?
As for Collin, for me it comes down to what Kate herself has said in her books and done on her show. I think she bears a lot of responsibility for his issues. And I hope that being away from her enables him to be happy and healthy.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 70
For argument's sake, let's pretend Andrea was C's
WrapAround person. Then for the love of pete, why in the world would TFW continue to allow a camera crew to film in his home, and to shadow his family
on store trips and vacations, if his condition was as dire as it was?
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THIS. If things were really so bad with Collin (self-harming or hurting others), why in the world would Kate still be allowing TLC into their home with cameras?
Frankly, I don't credit Kate with having the kind of self-restraint (or self-sacrifice, or self-awareness) to just say "no" to filming, but surely that situation should have given even TLC pause. Do we think the professionals (who may or may not have been in her home, we actually have no confirmation of that) thought a TV crew hanging around was a good idea?
dwhite001@kateplusmy8 you might want to consider seat belts with them. They would go flying if ever in an accident
kateplusmy8 I know! He is absolutely harnessed and buckled in but he's so furry you can't see it in this pic! I'd never put them in a car without securing them:) @dwhite001
I see the harness on the dog, but what is it attached to? Do they make special seat belts that hook up to a dog harness?
Sad but true (#75), thanks for the updates!
Yes, those pesky paps! Great idea, Gladys.
Gotta keep 'em off TFW's tail,'cause she's constantly hounded. Tail? Hounded? Get it? #RidinShotgun#PetLoverK8#DoggieDefenders
FlimsyFlamsy - your hashtags are hilarious and frighteningly spot on. Thanks for keeping me laughing.
Susie Cincinnati said... 36
Simple things like if you have a house you want to see for 500k but in it's current condition it's only worth 425k, if you put 25k into refurbishing it you can sell it for the full 500k.
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My math is horrible, but if you have a house that's worth 425,000 in its current condition, but you want to sell it for 500,000, how is putting 25,000 into it going to bring it to a sale price of 500,000?
I need a drink.
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Here's a rumspringa (can't believe you guys are still using that btw! :) )
It's not maths, it's real estate which is even more confusing than maths, and this is coming from someone with dyscalculia. The amount of money you put into refurbishing your house can raise the price of it double what you paid for those refurbishments.
Good God.....ENOUGH WITH THE DOG POSTS!!!!! It's almost as if she's already reached the lonely old crazy cat lady status!
It's not maths, it's real estate which is even more confusing than maths, and this is coming from someone with dyscalculia. The amount of money you put into refurbishing your house can raise the price of it double what you paid for those refurbishments.
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Not always, believe me. Not always. It depends on what refurbishment you've done, plus fluctuating market values. Been there, done that!
Rumspringa never gets old nor goes bad!
He was homeschooled all last year and I have wondered if Andrea was the wrap around care you keep saying Kate didn't try.
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How do you know that he was home schooled *all* of last year? Is this a fact or speculation?
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 48s48 seconds ago
@ConcernedChick @NaughtyNiceRob @radar_online @Kateplusmy8 This has nothing to do w/ document stating Kate to change behavior/get anger mgmt
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Is there a document that says Kate has to get anger mgmt? Or is that just from "sources say"?
Tamara said... 82
Susie Cincinnati said... 36
Here's a rumspringa (can't believe you guys are still using that btw! :) )
It's not maths, it's real estate which is even more confusing than maths, and this is coming from someone with dyscalculia. The amount of money you put into refurbishing your house can raise the price of it double what you paid for those refurbishments.
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Or it can raise the price by half of what you paid, or not at all, or can even decrease the price, depending on the refurbishment and how it is done.
In general, the things that actually increase a house's value more than the cost involved are cleaning, decluttering, staging, repainting in neutral colors, and small repairs/replacements.
There are tables showing how much you can expect to get back of dollars spent on home improvements,
I looked. I don't think that dog is buckled in since he is able to sit up so straight and the straps don't seem attached to anything. The car is parked (with an old 80s station wagon in the background). Where are they? Anyway, the dog most likely did not ride up front. The dog was in a picture up front. Then he can go in the back somewhere. This is Kate.
Another comment on the dog pic: Why do you keep posting pics of the "damned dogs"? We want to see pics of the kids.
Even if the dog has a harness that's buckled in, the front passenger air bag could seriously injure or kill him.
Kate is such an immature woman whose ability to reason is severely impaired. You choose the safest place for your dog to ride, not where it's fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow up and do what's most responsible!
(I have to remind myself that this is the same woman who let her little boy crawl under her 3000 pound van)
Return on investment varies greatly, depending on your project and your region etc. You can't expect that if you do a 50K kitchen redo that you'll be able to increase the asking price of your house by 50K.
People aren't going to pay double per square foot in comparison to other houses nearby.
miloandjack2016Stats indicate dogs fair better in accidents because they tend to be so relaxed & limber! Humans tense up! Plus you seem to have always practiced #SafetyFirst when carting kids around...going on 16yrs now!! Dontcha know if you ever even have a #FenderBender its going to make #HeadlineNews right? 😋 @kateplusmy
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There's Milo, blowing smoke out her ass. I'd like to see that stats that say dogs fair better in car accidents because they're relaxed.
She's an idiot. That b.s. makes zero sense. She's just deflecting yet another one of Kate's childish stunts.
Tucker's Mom said... 89
Even if the dog has a harness that's buckled in, the front passenger air bag could seriously injure or kill him.
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Oh she came back on to address that. She so reads here, lol.
dwhite001My afterthought was "I'm sure he's buckled, having 8 kids ... safety first! Sorry for doubting 😊 @kateplusmy8
kateplusmy8 No worries:)! It was meant to inform you and to be said kindly! Hard in text to convey emotion tho 😜 And YES! Safety is always first! I even worried about the airbag for him... Is it really safe even if the seat is as far back as it goes?! #FurMomWorries @dwhite001
dwhite001I did take your response as kind, so No worries back at you 😏 Have a great weekend @kateplusmy8
And no IG post from K8 would be complete without at least 4 posts from Milo.
miloandjack2016 Stats indicate dogs fair better in accidents because they tend to be so relaxed & limber! Humans tense up! Plus you seem to have always practiced #SafetyFirst when carting kids around...going on 16yrs now!! Dontcha know if you ever even have a #FenderBender its going to make #HeadlineNews right? 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 And Im LOL-ing at your nick for #Mak....We now have #NookiePookie and brother #Macker!! Good fit! Sometimes we call Jack...#JackAMack. 😋 #Shokies still the nick for daddy there? @kateplusmy8
Poor Milo, she just can't stop until she gets Shoka into the picture. "C'mon Kate, you have THREE dogs, you can't leave Big Daddy out, what will the haters say?" Sheesh.
Maybe that is what Mady is looking for now. She is a kid. It should be Jon who steps up and says maybe those comments weren't well stated.
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A lot of things out of EVERY party has not been well stated--Dad, Mom and the kids. Until regular and consistent visitation has been set up and enforced by her mother and father, however, that child doesn't have a prayer at ever having a functional relationship with her father or actually, her mother either.
That's the whole point, she is a CHILD. None of this should be on her.
She may have airbag sensors like I have which will shut off the passenger airbag if the passenger is too light. I sometimes put my dog crate in the front seat and the light will come on showing the airbag is off. That's safe.
Even so though, it's better to have your dog in the back restrained or in a crate. Just be a responsible pet owner. Even a low speed crash that might not even give a human a scrape could kill or seriously injure a pet who is not restrained.
Kate dear, ask yourself if you think it's a good idea to put a child that size in the front passenger seat? No? (hopefully). Then don't put your puppy there.
Safety features in cars are based on humans, not dogs, therefore, we as RESPONISBLE dog owners must decide upon the best way to ensure the dog's safety.
Put your precious puppies in the back with a seatbelt, or in a secured crate.
Stop playing "cool mom" driving around with your dog riding shotgun where he can get hurt or worse, distract you causing an accident.
miloandjack2016Stats indicate dogs fair better in accidents because they tend to be so relaxed & limber! Humans tense up!
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Doesn't matter if they are tense or loose and limber, when they're going through the windshield, they're done.
Wait?I thought Goody said the journals were modified?Now she's saying because its Kate copyrighted material that she can't sue for defamation?So what part of the book is full of lies?Im so confused because they cant say its full of lies but then claim its copyrighted material.Her fans are so confusing.
Wow.
jason leopold @servant81 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 U need help.Seriously.Cancelling Jon from Djing the kids school. U r the one who needs help! Anything to keep him from his kids
That guy's profile pic (@servant81) is him with Jon and another guy. So it sounds like he knows whereof he speaks.
#PeskyPapsBeware? #HeadlineNews? What the??? Does Milo think it's still 2009? Really, I think Kate can go for a drive without worrying about paps chasing her these days. Not that she's happy about that. I bet she'd give her eyeteeth to go back to the days when they followed her everywhere.
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There's Milo, blowing smoke out her ass. I'd like to see that stats that say dogs fair better in car accidents because they're relaxed.
She's an idiot. That b.s. makes zero sense. She's just deflecting yet another one of Kate's childish stunts.
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You know, that's what they say about drunks driving and having a car crash. They are limber because of the alcohol and don't get hurt or hurt as bad.
Do you think TFW would be able to disable the air bag if it had the option on her vehicle to disarm it when she puts the dog in the passenger seat?
Or is she THAT lazy?
It sure wasn't #SafetyFirst when TFW was beating the snot out of her kids. And her poor driving record has been well documented.
Forgot to post the tweet she said it in Msgoody2shoes21 @jamezvader1194 @GoKingDaddy @ConcernedChick I doubt Kate can sue for defamation because it's her copyrighted material. As far as proving it was stolen.... it's her word against her ex from hell, the thief who stole it and gave to the trash man
Did I just read this correctly???
She canceled a DJ gig that JON was going to do at the kids school???
And she complains that she does it all alone. Why are you not letting him make a living so he can have money to spend on the kids that do get to see him???
Your big mountain of money that you are sitting on is blood money for using your children for a decade for filming and basically destroying them.
Sad but true said... 98
Wow.
jason leopold @servant81 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 U need help.Seriously.Cancelling Jon from Djing the kids school. U r the one who needs help! Anything to keep him from his kids
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I recognize that guys name...there was a Radar article once where Jon supposedly said something on FB I forget what but it was on this guys page (I looked him up at the time). His fb profile pic is him at Jon at what looks like a DJ gig. And Jon is his FB friend. Which took me to Jon's facebook and it says 9/6 he left his dj job at Building 24. Hopefully for bigger and better. Sigh
Anyway, the twitter account only has a few tweets but unless someone is pretending to be this guy, it seems realistic. PA Dutch Mom, do you know if there is an event at the school he could have been up for DJing?
If Kate had Jon lose a gig dj'ing at his kids' school, that's just pathetic. I suppose she's protecting the kids again.
Can anyone link to Kate's twitter timeline? I'm on my tablet and don't have it bookmarked.
I see the school has an upper school Homecoming Dance on 10/1 and a middle school dance on 10/14. Are the tups in middle school?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 96
miloandjack2016Stats indicate dogs fair better in accidents because they tend to be so relaxed & limber! Humans tense up!
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Doesn't matter if they are tense or loose and limber, when they're going through the windshield, they're done.
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Not to mention it's "fare" not "fair". Hehe
Some nasty exchanges were going on between a sheep and the non-fans on Twitter. Honest to goodness, this sounds like squabbling on a grade school playground. It's hard to believe that these people are grown adults who don't know how to converse in a civil, mature manner.
Wait?I thought Goody said the journals were modified?Now she's saying because its Kate copyrighted material that she can't sue for defamation?So what part of the book is full of lies?
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Goody's tweets that Robert included in the book, of course.
@kateplusmy8
Poor Milo, she just can't stop until she gets Shoka into the picture. "C'mon Kate, you have THREE dogs, you can't leave Big Daddy out, what will the haters say?" Sheesh.
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Well, heck. Let's get a photo of Zorro tethered to the front console, and the fish (if they are still alive) swimming around in the cup holder.
Tucker's, here's a link:
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=Kateplusmy8%20&src=typd
localyocul said... 105
I see the school has an upper school Homecoming Dance on 10/1 and a middle school dance on 10/14. Are the tups in middle school?
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Tups in 6th, twins in 10th? I think grades 6-8 is middle school there.
Did I just read this correctly???
She canceled a DJ gig that JON was going to do at the kids school???
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Who knows if this is true or what the whole story is, but a couple comments.
If true, she needs to look up Tortious interference with Employment.
Secondly, a lot of that would really be on the school to not allow crap like that and tell her to buzz off. The last thing a school needs to do is support parental alienation.
@Admin If true,i can't think of any reason for the school to agree with her and cancel the gig.What exactly would Kate say to the school?Would she say it was to protect her kids like she always says?I would think the school would ask what Jon did but since there has be no source that comes out and said Kate doesn't allow jon to see them because he abused them then i can't think of any reason why they would.
Jamesvader1194 said... 116
IF true, I wouldn't put it past her to say, if you don't cancel him, I'll pull them out. And I think the school, knowing her, would take that seriously. At this point, they've got a lot more invested in those kids than they do in Jon, and I can see them respectfully declining to have him DJ there.
http://wkrn.com/2016/09/09/father-of-the-willis-clan-charged-with-child-rape/
Will someone that knows the GSD breed take a look at "Mackers" and tell me if the overbite he seems to have is normal. It seems excessive to me but then again I'm used to looking at the underbite of a bulldog.
If it were the homecoming dance I could see the twins having a shit fit about their toxic dad embarrassing them
miloandjack2016I knew you would be game to try this!! What a JOY to have him ride #Shotgun next to you!! How long was the ride? @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016So I guess you could get a tag for ur car now....#PeskyPapsBeware!! #OnBoard ##MakForMom SECURITY!! Was this the vet trip for this wk? Did both pups get good report? @kateplusmy8
How long will Gladys be obsessed with those new puppies? The dogs, not Kate's inflatables!
There's a reason she's called Gladys! Good grief. I kind of feel sorry for her family. She's a crazy scary busybody.
If it were the homecoming dance I could see the twins having a shit fit about their toxic dad embarrassing them
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Probably, though Jon did that dance for his cousin or nephew or something, and they seemed to love it. Assuming any of this is true, the twins really need to grow up, the school needs to grow up, Kate needs to grow up. It really doesn't ring true to me though a school would cancel on a DJ no matter how much a parent whines. Too much potential for a lawsuit. It's a big deal to take away a DJ's Friday or Saturday night, they can't book other gigs. To suddenly cancel on them is playing with fire.
It would make no sense for the school to bow to a threat about pulling the kids out. It's only 7 kids out of a decent sized school body. They might even be past the deadline to get a refund. Kate would threaten to sue.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 120
. . . It's a big deal to take away a DJ's Friday or Saturday night, they can't book other gigs. To suddenly cancel on them is playing with fire.
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My thought was that he might have volunteered his services. Many parents do at their kids' schools, especially with special functions. Not that anyone would ever expect Kate to.
It would make no sense for the school to bow to a threat about pulling the kids out. It's only 7 kids out of a decent sized school body. They might even be past the deadline to get a refund. Kate would threaten to sue.
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I have to agree.....maybe that happens in the movies, but if it got around a school was being bullied that badly by a parent, that would only make their dealings with all parents hell. I actually think they're smart enough not to play Kate's games, knowing you give her an inch she'll want a mile. That's just how she is and surely they have seen that by now.
I bet this school even has a waitlist. It would be no problem at all to fill 7 spots this early in September. I hope it's not true, and if it is, I can only shake my head.
Will someone that knows the GSD breed take a look at "Mackers" and tell me if the overbite he seems to have is normal. It seems excessive to me but then again I'm used to looking at the underbite of a bulldog.
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I can't see a good pic of it on it instgram so it's hard to tell. Sounds like a shoddy breeder if so.
I did notice most of her puppy photos are not that good or cute. If you didn't know this was her account the average person would be scrolling. She needs to look at the top photos for hashtag cutepuppy to begin to understand what a good photo of a cute dog is.
Another comment about Kate saying this: " I even worried about the airbag for him... Is it really safe even if the seat is as far back as it goes?!"
If you're worried about the airbag, that means you should not be putting him up front. So why the hell do you put him in the front until you know whether that is enough weight to trigger our airbag or whether he's far enough back? Wondering and worrying about the airbag isn't enough. She's unbelievably irresponsible.
Airbags can go off in low speed crashes, even fender benders. It could kill him. Yes, wonder about the airbag, and put him in the f--ing back seat unless and until you know the airbag doesn't pose a risk. Good grief. A dead dog is the tradeoff for spending the same exact amount of time to put him in the back. Why even risk this?
lopmental assessment of Collin and it was aired on television? Surely that's what you mean, as there would no other way to tell if he is "on par" developmentally.
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I totally disagree. I'm not saying it is by any means a professional assessment but you can tell a lot about this child from what's on film.
For instance, we can see he can speak in age appropriate sentences, we can see he can respond to others normally, that his social skills are very good, he has great eye contact, good emotional responses to stimulus, that he can provide detailed, age appropriate explanations of various things for the cameras, that he can take direction easily, that he can understand and follow normal social rules. That he is smart, sweet, responsive, oriented to his family and environment. We have also seen him at times shy, quiet, almost beaten down. We are by no means in the dark about his abilities. That's not to say he may have some struggles we don't see, but it's absolutely not true we have no information about his abilities. And as well documented, he is a very, very capable child. Which makes institutionalism all the more baffling. Goodness, he is far and away so much more capable than most of my special needs kids. I only wish they had his abilities. I have never in my nine years of working with kids like him seen a kid institutionalized who is as able as that child. This is a first.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 122
It would make no sense for the school to bow to a threat about pulling the kids out. It's only 7 kids out of a decent sized school body. They might even be past the deadline to get a refund. Kate would threaten to sue.
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I have to agree.....maybe that happens in the movies, but if it got around a school was being bullied that badly by a parent, that would only make their dealings with all parents hell.
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My point was not that the school would be worried about the money or filling places if she started to throw her weight around. I think the school, having spent many years with these kids, would back down to ensure that they were not hurt by such a situation. Let's face it, they must know Kate pretty well by now and understand what they're dealing with. I can only imagine what must have gone on when the decision was being made for Collin to leave the school.
So what was the context that made Jon calling Kate an asshole in an interview acceptable?
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No one, not a single one, said it's okay to call someone names.
What was said is that Jon said so in direct response to her exploiting her children. And he's right, it's an asshole thing to do, whether you like the word or not. The public response to this little student she pulled with her child was overwhelming no matter how you spin it--same shit different day from YOU. The public is outraged at her, they have every right to be, and it upsets you. Sorry.
My point was not that the school would be worried about the money or filling places if she started to throw her weight around. I think the school, having spent many years with these kids, would back down to ensure that they were not hurt by such a situation
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Yeah, but, eh, I think they're smart enough to know not to play ball with Kate Gosselin or listen to her various whining. If they want a children's father to DJ, they're not much going to care what the voluntarily estranged mother thinks of it. Thinking this will somehow hurt the kids is kind of speculative. I just really don't see schools play ball with parents like this, they know once you open that barn door you'll regret it....and this school surely knows it with the various entitled parents who have come through their doors.
I guess my point is, I'm not buying this one. Even if it did happen, more likely JON heard she was making noise and voluntarily backed off to not cause trouble. That would be just like Jon.
Do you think TFW would be able to disable the air bag if it had the option on her vehicle to disarm it when she puts the dog in the passenger seat?
Or is she THAT lazy?
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She is THAT lazy. She could google her car year and model and find out about the airbag, she could open the manual in the glove compartment and read about it, she could look for a sensor alert on her dash somewhere that indicates the airbag is on or off, she could look for a switch where you can manually turn it off if you're going to put a dog or small child up front.
She did none of this. She just sat her dog in the path of serious danger and then wondered about it.
It would almost be better if she sat him there without thinking about the airbag. The scary thing is, she THOUGHT about the danger, per her own words, yet did nothing to mitigate it.
Shouldn't Kate be getting a cat or cats to complete this menagerie? Milo would go crazy with advice. Kate could name one of the cats after Milo who would be batpoop giddy. At least it would be a new obsession for The Gladys. It would keep Gladys busy for a while and the dogs would be on hold.
Say, if the twins had a fit about it and TFW put her foot down and Jon got canceled for it, that is incredibly sad.
But, there the twins are on the People cover, grinning ear to ear surrounded by their
"loving and doing it all alone Mother".
Who's toxic now?
Yet another TLC "reality" show.
http://wkrn.com/2016/09/09/father-of-the-willis-clan-charged-with-child-rape/
Our newer cars have auto sensors for the front passenger seats,and an older one-our 2-seater- has a manual shut off.
How can you have 8 kids and be so unaware of the airbag dangers of putting a small being in its deployment path?
Warmth of the Sun, I about lost it when you said if the fish were still alive that she could let them swim in the cup holder!
Maybe she will put the pup in a crate and buckle it in, in the backseat. If she doesn't, she only has herself to blame! Would be ironic payback if she let one of the pups ride shotgun, with no restraints and she has an accident and the pup meets their demise.
I don't wish that at all, especially for the kids, they would be very upset and I would never wish that on them ever!!!
I LOVE DOGS, BUT, you can not continue to treat a son for over a
DOZEN YEARS and continue to as ya'll say, farting rainbows and unicorns, like nothing to see here. We nine are all fine!
Her day of catastrophic wrath is coming.
http://heavy.com/entertainment/2016/09/toby-willis-arrested-charged-child-rape-clan-father-patriarch-wife-brenda-mugshot-children-tennessee-kentucky-underage-sexual/
I didn't register this the first time someone posted it.
Whoa! How old is the victim? Are we talking about a 7 year old, or a 17 year old who said she was 20?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 137
There is speculation (I emphasize, SPECULATION) it might be his oldest daughter, who apparently left the family singing group abruptly not long ago. Their 2nd season on TLC (which was short, only 6 episodes) ran March-May 2016.
Sad but true said... 138
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 137
There is speculation (I emphasize, SPECULATION) it might be his oldest daughter, who apparently left the family singing group abruptly not long ago. Their 2nd season on TLC (which was short, only 6 episodes) ran March-May 2016.
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That's what I was wondering. Remember the Duggar scandal started with "Josh accused of molestation as a teen" and THEN it came out that it was his siblings.
I hope TLC really really thinks hard before putting K+8 back on given their situation.
There is speculation (I emphasize, SPECULATION) it might be his oldest daughter, who apparently left the family singing group abruptly not long ago. Their 2nd season on TLC (which was short, only 6 episodes) ran March-May 2016.
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I think TLC may have cut it short because they knew this was brewing.
This goes to my point, you can be shut down at any time for any reason, and the money train is over. How stupid can you be to let a great, stable career like nursing sail on by knowing how unreliable reality shows are??? TLC is probably going to have to cancel the show officially now. At least temporarily.
As far as it being his daughter, well, all I can say is it usually is, or a niece or nephew, or other close relative. It's not too often a pedophile tracks down a random stranger's kid and molests them.
Or, it still could have been some kind of liaison with a 17 year old, which, while still child rape, isn't the same thing as being attracted to pre-pubecent children or your own biological children. One is illegal and inappropriate, the other is a perversion. What did stick out is all the articles emphasize it was one incident from 12 years ago. That kind of suggests more of a drunken rendezvous with someone underage. When you're targeting a young child, usually there is a period of grooming and the sex abuse carries on much more than just once.
I think in the back, or front of her mind, this is another reason TFW sent Collin away. If he were doing anything at all that would cause TLC to say we just can't film anymore (NOT suggesting sexual abuse of course, but anything harmful at all to others), then the whole of production would be shut down. But if she banishes him from the home and thus, filming, then they can't shut down filming over him.
I also think it's entirely possible TLC already said they're not filming unless he's not part of it (due to obvious stress on him, liability, etc). Which again leads back to choosing filming over him, if true.
From the Willis article: "The new season premiered in early 2016. The Facebook post continued, “In the new season, viewers will get a deeper look into the family’s life off the tour bus."
Yeah, well, thanks to Dad's arrest, I guess they carried through on that promise.
Geez. Nice mugshot.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 137
http://heavy.com/entertainment/2016/09/toby-willis-arrested-charged-child-rape-clan-father-patriarch-wife-brenda-mugshot-children-tennessee-kentucky-underage-sexual/
I didn't register this the first time someone posted it.
Yeah I should have said what it is about. WTF
Doesn't really matter to me Admin, you sick ****, if the child was 7 or 17, it is still rape. RAPE.
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Actually it DOES very much matter to the psychologists, judges and other experts who assess risk. Very much. A liaison with a young woman who has been through puberty does not suggest a person is a danger to small children. They are both rape, I never said otherwise. Please don't confuse a discussion of the degrees of risk to one's own children as some kind of defense of him--not at all.
One act puts his OWN CHILDREN at very, very grave risk. One just puts women in general at risk, if at all. The first group is far, far less able to self protect and thus in much, much more danger.
I can tell you this, we rarely get petitions about statutory rape. All the experts recognize that usually that does not put one's own children at risk. But you can bet if you start raping small children, they'll take all your kids and won't let you be around any kids at all. There is something wrong with your brain when you start talking pre-puberty.
We'll find out, but guarantee you if it was a 17 year old and not his own child, he will not lose custody of his children or be labeled a danger to other children. But if it was pre-puberty, he will. Watch.
You bet your bottom dollar it matters to your own child's safety whether someone in your neighborhood is a pedophile, or convicted of statutory rape. One you need to move. The other, you're okay, just keep an eye on it.
Another clue this is statutory rape of an older child is how the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation describes it in more benign terms, as a "sexual encounter." If it were a younger child I hope they would use stronger language. Sexual encounter implies no resistance from the other party.
I hope to god for his own children that he is not a pedophile. Also did you see the part about how he fled the state, then proudly posted family photos on social media in the other state? Lol, arrested right after.
Good job, TLC. Good job.
I hope to god for his own children that he is not a pedophile. Also did you see the part about how he fled the state, then proudly posted family photos on social media in the other state? Lol, arrested right after.
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Not the sharpest tool in the box. That should go on the "dumb criminal" list.
It doesn't really matter to me Admin, you sick ****, if the child was 7 or 17, it is still rape. RAPE.
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Who is calling admin a sick ****? I thought her name was JohnSmith.com!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 145
Another clue this is statutory rape of an older child is how the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation describes it in more benign terms, as a "sexual encounter." If it were a younger child I hope they would use stronger language. Sexual encounter implies no resistance from the other party.
Good job, TLC. Good job.
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Admin, you are so right. Sexual encounter sounds like casual lovers.
IF, it is a child under 12 and they are saying sexual encounter, that is SO WRONG!
When they were on AGT, there was just something not quite right.
I couldn't put my finger on it. I wonder if his wife knew.
I need to add that the wording needs to be much stronger!
Good job, TLC. Good job.
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I guess this is what you can expect from a network that shows a guy having sex with his car.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 141
I think in the back, or front of her mind, this is another reason TFW sent Collin away. If he were doing anything at all that would cause TLC to say we just can't film anymore (NOT suggesting sexual abuse of course, but anything harmful at all to others), then the whole of production would be shut down. But if she banishes him from the home and thus, filming, then they can't shut down filming over him.
I also think it's entirely possible TLC already said they're not filming unless he's not part of it (due to obvious stress on him, liability, etc). Which again leads back to choosing filming over him, if true.
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Could TLC really think they have a show called Kate Plus 8 when it's only Plus 7? Are the two puppies supposed to = Collin? That's just crazy. At the very least, they're going to have to be a lot clearer about what his problems are--although I suppose K8 will make up some BS on the couch. But who is really going to buy this?
If TLC is not seriously considering dropping ALL of its reality programming that includes minors, then its management is seriously out of touch.
There is no possible way that any court will overlook an accusation of child rape REGARDLESS of the age of the MINOR child and allow a parent to retain custody of the children in his own house.
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Oh yeah? Wanna bet?
Actually, the California Court of Appeal has ruled definitely that statuary rape with an older child does NOT put your own children at risk, or even a child who is a product of the union.
You can start by reading the California case In re B.T. It invoked a 30 something year old woman and a teenage boy, but they were very clear it goes both ways. She was allowed to keep her own children, and the Courts found very clearly her children were NOT at risk due to her actions. Solid law, hasn't been reversed. Review denied by the CA Supreme Court--they don't want to go near it.
I can tell you definitely, statutory rape cases are rarely filed here and when they are, they are almost always dismissed. In re B.T. It is what it is.
Given that we don't yet know the age of the victim or whether the crime was by force, this is kind of a moot point. Facts do matter in determining risk. There is no one sized fits all. All rapes do not put younger children at risk, per our own courts. Don't like it, write Sacramento.
to stating that the police will facilitate custody transfers, is inaccurate.
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Oh my God. You're absolutely wrong. The police do this ALL THE TIME. SEEN THEM DO IT, read police reports about it, got court orders ordering it.
Grow up.
If TLC is not seriously considering dropping ALL of its reality programming that includes minors, then its management is seriously out of touch.
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I actually think they are at a serious crossroads right now. There's been way too many scandals at this point, with this latest Willis crime. There is a heck of a lot of liability involved in reality shows, and a heck of a lot of risk. They have poured a lot of money into shows that went belly up. They're in the middle of a huge contractual dispute with several shows whose future is also uncertain for that reason. Add to that the waning nature of reality shows and falling ratings across the board. I would be shocked if they're not sitting around the board room this month trying to figure out how to tear this network down and start all over. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a big shake up coming soon, with a bunch of layoffs and new management.
If I were Kate, I'd be shitting myself right now. Nothing is certain about her future or this networks future 's matter how much she brags about a summer of filming. They could tear everything down tomorrow and start over with home improvement shows and scripted TV. They're under no obligation to continue with what they do now.
TLC seems to have learned something post-Duggar. The Willis Family FB page run by TLC has been pulled, at least for now. They never did that with any of their Duggar pages---even 19 Kids and Counting is still up and running.
IF, it is a child under 12 and they are saying sexual encounter, that is SO WRONG!
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I agree. If he's a pedophile, call a spade a spade. Can't wait to see the police reports on this one.
I wonder if they will use fillers of film shot of Collin previously to make up the "8" business. They could have changed it to Kate Plus Kids and leave Collin's business out of it but Kate has always been so silly and insistent about the number 8 with her "egg-cellent" jokes and boasting of her large number of children, naming recipes such as K8's Salad. etc
Oh and another thing that should scare anyone with a reality show on TLC, there really wouldn't be many other alternate networks to run to if TLC ever dumps them. I think Kate used to think she could pop right over to Oxygen or Lifetime if she ever lost her show. Not anymore.
The reality show heyday is over. You used to be able to find all kinds of shows like TLC's everywhere. Now if anyone gets dumped, they'll be homeless. The reality shows other networks are looking for now are much raunchier and seem to follow a very different format of five or six biologically unrelated characters who happen to flow in the same circles (Little Women, Born This Way, Real Housewives). No one wants to watch a family wander around the country on vacation or singing or whatever.
For those interested here's In re B.T.
2011 out of Orange County. Been the law for over five years now, and we are obligated, under the law, to follow it here. And we do.
https://casetext.com/case/in-re-bt-2
"While her relationship with Miguel certainly reflected poorly upon her judgment in one area, nothing suggested that it would cause her to neglect or abuse her baby daughter, especially since there was no evidence at all of any past abuse of her three other children, or of any other children."
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Oh and another thing that should scare anyone with a reality show on TLC, there really wouldn't be many other alternate networks to run to if TLC ever dumps them. I think Kate used to think she could pop right over to Oxygen or Lifetime if she ever lost her show. Not anymore.
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There IS the UP network, but I think they're too religion-focused for Kate's current incarnation. And they surely won't pay close to what TLC does.
I guess the egg-cellent jok I posted about didn't really fit in, but you get my point...
If Willis is is being charged with child rape, in TN that is defined as someone between 3 and 13 years of age.
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/tennessee-statutory-rape-laws.htm
This article is from last year but it does give some of the child molest cases that happened before the whole Josh thing and willis.Im just shocked that the TLC company hasnt been investigate and doing background checks of all the people who work for TLC at this point with so many cases. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/05/22/does-discoverytlc-have-child-molester-problem.html
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (CLARKSVILLENOW) – Special Agents from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation have arrested the father of the country group, The Willis Clan, in connection to an ongoing child rape investigation.
According to a press release, agents began investigating Toby Nathaniel Willis (DOB 4-29-70) on August 29. During the course of the investigation, Agents developed information Willis had a sexual encounter approximately 12 years ago with an underage female. The investigation into Willis remains active and ongoing.
Today, TBI Agents arrested the 46-year-old in Greenville, Kentucky, where he travelled in an effort to avoid law enforcement, and charged him with one count of Rape of a Child.
At the time of this release, he was being held in the Muhlenberg County Jail without bond on a Fugitive from Justice warrant. He will ultimately face extradition to Cheatham County, where once booked, he will be held in the Cheatham County Jail without bond.
Well, look who just popped on to Twitter. For the first time in weeks? And it looks like she's going on a tear, lol.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 33s34 seconds ago
@lord_carolyn SO glad!Send it 2me!Go 2 my website/email me & I'll give u info on how2get it 2 me &back to u signed❤️ http://Kateplusmy8.com
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 Sep 8
@Kateplusmy8 Kate Plus 8 Top Five Moments With the Crew 👍😆
Cute memories 💝
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-8/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-crew/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=kateplus8&sf35362800=1
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@msgoody2shoes21 This made our night! Literally! I've never seen some of that footage and we watched it over and over again! Thank you!❤️
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The first "memory" is Collin exploring the camera with the cameraman.
More wise words from the Court of Appeal:
"Debra made a grave mistake, regardless of whether she or Miguel is telling the truth about their relationship. But depriving B.T. of her mother's care as punishment for this mistake is not in keeping with the purpose of the dependency statutes and is inexplicable in any terms other than misplaced moral outrage."
http://wkrn.com/2016/09/09/father-of-the-willis-clan-charged-with-child-rape/
Jeez-o-wow! You wonder why when you look at fathers this creep and Jim Boob, that hairs on the back of your neck stand up.
I tell ya, TLC really knows how to pick'em.
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MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 Sep 8
@Kateplusmy8 Kate Plus 8 Top Five Moments With the Crew 👍😆
Cute memories 💝
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-8/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-crew/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=kateplus8&sf35362800=1
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@msgoody2shoes21 This made our night! Literally! I've never seen some of that footage and we watched it over and over again! Thank you!❤️
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What a moron. That link is from the Kate Plus 8 FB page. Seems Kate's out of the loop with TLC (who obviously runs the page)
My thought was that he might have volunteered his services. Many parents do at their kids' schools, especially with special functions. Not that anyone would ever expect Kate to.
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Me, too. A couple kids in our family got Bruce to do an annual fundraising concert at their school. Lucky parents!
If you're worried about the airbag, that means you should not be putting him up front. So why the hell do you put him in the front until you know whether that is enough weight to trigger our airbag or whether he's far enough back? Wondering and worrying about the airbag isn't enough. She's unbelievably irresponsible.
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Because Kate is a walking Id?
If you're worried about the airbag, that means you should not be putting him up front. So why the hell do you put him in the front until you know whether that is enough weight to trigger our airbag or whether he's far enough back? Wondering and worrying about the airbag isn't enough. She's unbelievably irresponsible.
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Because Kate is a walking Id?
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I can't get over this. Like I said, it would be better if she just didn't think of the airbag. But, she thought of it! Wondered if she should be concerned! And yet still put him up there.
The first is just idiocy. Which arguably, is just genetic.
The second is knowingly and actively putting the pet in harm's way and doing nothing about it. That's intent.
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My thought was that he might have volunteered his services. Many parents do at their kids' schools, especially with special functions. Not that anyone would ever expect Kate to.
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Me, too. A couple kids in our family got Bruce to do an annual fundraising concert at their school. Lucky parents!
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Yes I assumed he volunteered it too...
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IF, it is a child under 12 and they are saying sexual encounter, that is SO WRONG!
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I agree. If he's a pedophile, call a spade a spade. Can't wait to see the police reports on this one.
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Can't wait for you to explain more to us ;-)
Dude looks like the Unabomber.
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What a moron. That link is from the Kate Plus 8 FB page. Seems Kate's out of the loop with TLC (who obviously runs the page)
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You can tell she never even looks at that page, let alone participate in it in any way. I guess that's "not supposed to be part of it," lol. It's also very possible, having seen what a mess her Twitter has turned into, that TLC prefers her to stay away.
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The first is just idiocy. Which arguably, is just genetic.
The second is knowingly and actively putting the pet in harm's way and doing nothing about it. That's intent.
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B-b-b-but Admin! Her only "intent" here is the photo op. She needed that photo op! You can't have expected her to bring in two new PUPPIES and not be able to use them for photo ops! Why should anyone be surprised that she's using her new #FurKids in exactly the same way she's used her "#Plus8?
#ObviousPublicityIsObvious
I think there was another TLC parent star who was charged with rape a couple of years ago - a mother who was charged with the rape of a young boy. I can't remember the show, or her name.
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TLC sure does have a nasty track record with its reality shows, doesn't it?
Honey Boo Boo= Mama June dated a child molester even after he molested her own daughter.
19 Kids and Counting=Josh molested his sisters and cheated on his wife.
The Willis Family=Dad apparently raped a child.
Kate Plus 8=Mom abused kids, exploited kids, sent one child away. Oh, and a pedophile producer worked on the show.
Time for TLC to find a new format.
I checked out the K+8 Facebook page, and there are comments from viewers in South Africa saying that season 4 is airing there. One said she is bored to tears with the show and Kate complains constantly that the KIDS are dysfunctional.
Jeez-o-wow! You wonder why when you look at fathers this creep and Jim Boob, that hairs on the back of your neck stand up.
I tell ya, TLC really knows how to pick'em.
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LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Their track record is horrible. They're trying to recover from the Duggar Disaster and now this. I wonder how many more scandals are waiting in the wings, ripe for exposure. I am glad that the Hayes family, who appeared normal and too boring for viewers, according to TLC, was cancelled. They got out from under the dreaded TLC curse.
At the time of this release, he was being held in the Muhlenberg County Jail without bond on a Fugitive from Justice warrant. He will ultimately face extradition to Cheatham County, where once booked, he will be held in the Cheatham County Jail without bond.
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Won't he have a chance, at some point, to post bond? I wonder if the whole clan can visit him in jail and practice their routine for him. Oops...is there still a musical group without the patriarch? Has their tour been cancelled, or were they on hiatus?
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@DonutsForCollin @lord_carolyn Hair stinks too - puts awful stuff on it bc she over bleached it - never shampoos it. #Wheew!! @kateplusmy8
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Unless someone is sniffing Kate's hair, how would anyone know that it stinks and she doesn't wash it? From the photos, it looks to me like it's over-processed and it's greasy from using too much conditioner to try to eliminate that straw look.
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Wonder if they were mortified by Kate Gosselin beating the crap out of Collin causing brain damage&she sent him away
I think I'd be really careful about tweeting something like this as fact.
It's amazing that every single one of 12 children has musical talent. How does that happen? What would happen if they had a tone-deaf child who could not learn to play an instrument?
http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/10/tlc-willis-family-arrested-toby-raping-child/
Am i the only one that thinks this snowbunny person is a fan sock? Sara Snow @SNOWBUNNY_2015 6h6 hours ago
@ellamenopea @servant81 Its Jon's reputation that people don't want at the school. He may flip someone off or yank out his dick and pee
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The TMZ article says the Willis Family was told in May they would not be renewed. But the police investigation supposedly started in August. Hmmmmmm.
I think there was another TLC parent star who was charged with rape a couple of years ago - a mother who was charged with the rape of a young boy. I can't remember the show, or her name.
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Wasn't that the Mom in Cheer Perfection? Andrea, something or other...?
Gotta admit thought Kate has sent C to bootcamp not a psych facility.
Jon will be at M.O.M.S. tonight in Doylestown, PA.
https://twitter.com/servant81/status/774683939705421824
I think the situation does matter. If a girl of maybe 16 yrs old goes to a bar or other place with adults, pretends to be an adult, claims to be 18, and has sex willingly, the man might be charged with statutory rape by law but I don't believe he is a danger to kids. If there is force or a young child, then he is a predator.
That tweet, claiming Jon can't DJ because he would pull his d*** out, is disgusting. Kate has lovely fans. Such high class people.
Thank you, Taylor Swift.
http://www.wbrc.com/story/33020617/jsu-ballerina-killed-in-car-wreck
http://www.people.com/article/taylor-swift-gofundme-katie-beth-carter
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Am i the only one that thinks this snowbunny person is a fan sock? Sara Snow @SNOWBUNNY_2015 6h6 hours ago
@ellamenopea @servant81 Its Jon's reputation that people don't want at the school. He may flip someone off or yank out his dick and pee
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I'm pretty sure the sara snowbunny is the old Cows person
This just keeps getting crazier and crazier!
Go to Bing and type in:
willis charged with child rape
Then see the article that talks about his arrest from the New York Daily News.
But the PICTURE with the article is not Willis!
You will not believe what picture they put!
This was an hour ago and has not been changed!
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I'm pretty sure the sara snowbunny is the old Cows person
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But wasn't she virulently anti-Kate?
GollyGee said... 192
Go to Bing and type in:
willis charged with child rape
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Can you not post a link?
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,21029418,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
People article about Toby Willis
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localyocul said... 191
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I'm pretty sure the sara snowbunny is the old Cows person
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But wasn't she virulently anti-Kate?
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She was virulently anti-everyone! Very unpredictable
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GollyGee said... 192
Go to Bing and type in:
willis charged with child rape
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Can you not post a link?
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I think because it's the results that pop up that is funny. It's a picture of Josh Duggar
I could, but it wouldn't show the picture.
Believe me it is WOW!
You have to go to Bing. Google won't show the picture that is with the Willis article.
GollyGee said... 198
I could, but it wouldn't show the picture.
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Believe me it is WOW!
http://tinyurl.com/jh2po8c
I'm pretty sure the sara snowbunny is the old Cows person
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But wasn't she virulently anti-Kate?
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She was virulently anti-everyone! Very unpredictable
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It is Cow and she is nuts. Certifiable. She attacks everyone and everything, has bashed the Gosselin kids for their weight, their teeth, their skin, has harassed Jon. One very scary person indeed, a real creeper...makes my skin crawl!
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