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Her epiphany: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/why-i-decided-to-stop-writing-about-my-children/
And here's the September 2016 People article feature Kate and kids, sans Collin.
Saturday, August 20, 2016
"I don’t want to mar my children’s glory and subvert their beginnings for my so-called art" and Kate and kids in People magazine, minus Collin
Popular "Mommy blogger" and writer Elizabeth Bastos has packed up shop after realizing (with the help of one concerned grandfather) her posts were intruding on her children's right to privacy.
Her epiphany: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/why-i-decided-to-stop-writing-about-my-children/
And here's the September 2016 People article feature Kate and kids, sans Collin.
Her epiphany: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/why-i-decided-to-stop-writing-about-my-children/
And here's the September 2016 People article feature Kate and kids, sans Collin.
2057 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 2057 Newer› Newest»I agree with "Sad but true" @ 194. The People article could be testing the water for TLC. Waiting to get the public's reaction before scheduling the shows which have already been filmed. TLC did the same with the Duggars, I believe, although the negative reaction to the abuse scandal didn't stop them from continuing filming the rest of the family,it did seem to highten interest.
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Deliverence said... 192
I'm not sure that Collin was recently sent away. I remember watching a vacation episode where the kids were ziplining and Collin and another of the boys were talking about how nice it was to spend time together. To me it sounded like they'd been away from each other, not just playing with someone else. It really stuck in my mind. Such an odd conversation to have unless someone had been gone.
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I went and watched that clip and I don't know about Collin being away but the way he spoke, in my opinion was so mature and...I don't know how to describe it other than say that nothing about this kid screams "special needs that require home removal and institutionalization".
Remember when Hannah refused to come home because of the way mommy dearest treated Colliln? When was that?
Way to go Kate:
Stephanie Bond @HarshTweet 45m45 minutes ago
Mady Gosselin: so your dad can't talk about you on TV, but your mom can sell a story about your family to People, do I have that right?
that family is falling apart and I put most of the blame on that selfish witch....I think this is the first domino to fall unfortunately
Vanessa (#198), so nice to see you posting. You have provided so much insight into NPD, and I've
always appreciated your thoughts.
localyocul said... 3
Remember when Hannah refused to come home because of the way mommy dearest treated Colliln? When was that?
Not quite 18 months ago. There is so much more to this story, and you can be sure we'll never find it out.
I notice in the photos, H and L both have braces now---nothing yet for the boys? Not surprised.
Sorry for the rant, but whoever thought the People interview was a good idea needs to be fired.
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That would be Kate. I can't fathom that any PR professional would tell her to get a People cover featuring 7 of the kids with Colin obviously out of the picture.
It's baaaaaaaad on so many levels.
It's a 10-year anniversary thing, so let's see what we have here to summarize about the Gosselins.
Relationships with family and friends are strained and destroyed.
Marriage had ended.
Divorce acrimony virtually unrivaled in all of celebdom.
Utter failure to co-parent post divorce. A-bys-mal.
2 children kicked out of school for behavioral problems.
Twins relationship with their father is not only fractured, but filled with anger and distrust.
2 tups also have zero relationship with their father.
Colin is taken out of the home for unspecified reasons.
If this isn't a f*cking tragic outcome, I don't know what is. I could write a better story about Octomom.
This is not some conspiracy theory or "Kate hate". These are irrefutable facts, and I have to wonder if TLC feels that they are walking a VERY thin line by filming and airing this family.
There is no denying the absolutely awful circumstances that an audience will find the Gosselin family in right now. No trip or home improvement product can hide that at this point.
I was reading about this in a waiting room and I had a tough time not screaming. She is so desperate to be on a magazine cover that there is no low too low. Poor Colin. I really hate the way she is celebrating being on the cover even though Colin is not in the picture. She really is a cold hard, self centered witch.
Mady seems to be in it for what she can get.
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What I see is emotional blackmail from Mady. You want to see me, Dad? Then here are my rules...and if you don't follow them, I will punish you in a way that I know hurts your to your core.
I don't blame Mady. I really don't.
I won't write what Mady has become, because it is not flattering. I'll just say that she's learned from the best.
Are they testing the waters to see if people accept this bullshit story about Collin and keep watching even though it's no longer 8?
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Testing the waters and boiling the frog.
My guess, and hope, is that the hate-turned-apathy towards Kate will be reignited to a level of outrage that befits a woman who would use her kids like this.
I hope we see Dugger-level boycotts out of this.
Oh, and I can't imagine what show will put Kate (and maybe even the twins again) on to spew her spin and total bullshit.
"I'm so aloooooooooooooone".
We knoooooooooooooooooooooooow!!
So all those positive happy well adjusted family from Gladys and mommy dearest have been lies! Things must have been pretty bad while she tweeted sunshine out of her a$$
didn't the real mommy dearest send her daughter to a boarding school around the same age?? enough said....
Read here much, milo? Whyever did you delete this comment on K8's IG pic?
miloandjack2016baires04.. .read the latest #People magazine cover article! @kateplusmy8 had to make a very difficult heart wrenching decision to send one son to a #SpecialNeedsSchool this yr. I feel for her!! ❤
Wow. Haven't been here for ages, but here's my thoughts. I mentioned a year or so ago that my grandson is bipolar & was diagnosed at the age of seven. I also said that the lack of mental health services is what I believe to be behind most shootings: not racism or hatred.
Anyway.. Colin may actually thrive at one of these schools. Meals, bedtime, classes, etc. all on schedule. These schools are really expensive, and if you do your homework, can be really nice. Lots of one on one attention, and little chaos. The exact opposite of his home. Lots of structure and focus on building social skills.
I don't believe for a second that Kate has the patience to work with Colin at home. Never has & never will. And there is just too much stimuli in that house of horrors for him to stay calm. The kid needs structure & a calm environment.
These are really just my musings, but I think Colin is going to thrive there, if it's one of the good residential programs. Better than living with Kate any day!
And Jon should have called the cops the first & every time that Kate didn't send ALL of the kids out to him. I don't know which of them annoys me the most.
Meanwhile, on instagram, Milo prattles on trying to deflect.
miloandjack2016All dressed in white....looking so fresh and clean! How did you do that in those hot hot 90s summer heat? #PhotoShoot.@kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016Even #Makeup looks perfecto! @kateplusmy8. #PhotosInPeopleMag. 😎
Oh for heaven sake. These girls have been talking about him for years. And Jon has never said anything negative about them other than expressing concern and sadness. Naturally Kate spins that as him trash talking them.
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OK, thanks. I've been trying to recall when and if Jon disparaged his twins in the media, and I can't. Apparently, Mady is very angry that he even addresses her publicly.
Every time I think she can't be more disgusting, she surprises me. Pure speculation, but putting together the repeated delaying of K+8 and Kate's well-documented reluctance to view these children as anything other than a marketable 6 pack, I am guessing that there was some specific incident that caused this separation. I have some thoughts on what that could possibly be, but would not like to pour imaginary gasoline on the speculative fire. After their reaction to the Duggar fiasco, I'm guessing TLC has been waiting to see if said incident could be contained or explained away before airing any new episodes. More pure speculation: Not having any idea in what kind of situation this young man has landed, it's possible it could be an improvement for him to be away from the mean-spirited females in that house.
I am reminded of Paris Jackson who was sent away after a suicide attempt. She was being quite a handful and was sent away to a boarding alternative school. It seems to have done her good, but that's another one we did not need to know about. That at least seems to have been leaked, not announced. I picture Collin is at something like that. Not that he attempted suicide, God Forbid, but that he is someplace for behavioral health.
FlimsyFlamsy,
When I read your earlier post about agreeing with me, I just broke down and cried!
This is SO UPSETTING!!!
That ***** SMILES on the People cover.
When Jon went to the compound to pick up the kids for his first visitation and only 4 kids walked down to the driveway, he should of gotten the police to enforce it. And he should of done it every single time. I think if he would of done this, things wouldn't be this bad, except for Colin.
What did she promise Mady and Cara to talk about Jon like this?
Congrats, Kate!
You FINALLY got them to SPIT IT OUT about their father and in print in People. Nice days' work!
http://www.people.com/article/mady-cara-gosselin-open-up-about-dad-jon-gosselin
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Play the video and listen between the lines of what Kate Coyne is saying. She is digging deep to spin the photo shoot into a Norman Rockwell painting, and it just falls short.
Shooting is work and it's long and tedious.
Putting Mady and Cara's front and center in her war on Jon backfired on Kate 2 years ago. Yet, here she is doing it again.
I hope Kate gets excoriated in the press for doing this to her children.
Aww thanks Tucker's Mom. I guess my point is, is that it's not easy. To make things work for your kid, you have to take a real honest look at yourself as a parent, and change your behaviour if need be. We have 2 boys, and what works for one, doesn't work for the other.
I noticed in one article, she states that the other kids are in therapy to deal with their brother being gone. Again, if it was so traumatizing that they all need therapy, you need to take a long hard look at yourself, lady.
There is something not right going on there - and unfortunately WE know because she told us! So all her stupid fans that will state that WE don't know the whole story, I question why we know any of it at all.
She is so in her fucking glory right now, being on the cover. That is so sad.
One more thing - I read an article about people buying followers on Twitter and Instagram. The telltale sign that they have purchased followers - having 10's of thousands, and only a handful of comments. Not really realistic if that many people are interested enough to follow.
I honestly didn't think she could get any worse. I'm sickened by her. This is horribly unethical and how this can go on is beyond my rationale. I've always liked to give Jon the benefit of the doubt but if he doesn't do SOMETHING to counter this , I really fear for those kids' futures.
Meanwhile, on instagram, Milo prattles on trying to deflect.
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I'd love to be able to find Milo's tweets expressing outrage when Jon spoke about Collin in a much less intrusive manner.
hallelujah Admin......
Well, the other headline to this article---again, so ironically---is that Kate is "sorry for all those insane, control-freak meltdowns." Even a 3-year-old could connect those dots.
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I can't even wrap my head around this being on any parent's radar regarding what they'd change!
Really? Your tantrums? How about changing how you ended your marriage? How about changing your acrimonious divorce? How about changing things so that at this point in time (hell, LONG before this), you and Jon would have become a team with your kids' happiness and well being in mind instead of not even being on speaking terms? How about not burning bridges with your family?
Kate's utter failure and biggest regret introspectively is that she lost her shit too often?
Are ya kidding me?
localyocul said... 3
Remember when Hannah refused to come home because of the way mommy dearest treated Colliln? When was that?
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May, 2015
http://www.ibtimes.com/kate-gosselin-custody-battle-rumors-surface-jon-gosselin-reportedly-fighting-daughter-1924338
Are the twins so cold that they don't have that need deep down? How can they just say they don't need a relationship with him without mourning the relationship they had? Pretty cold
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What's happened to the twins will affect them for years. This is really, terribly wrong.
I don't believe for a minute that they don't love Jon. They are teens, raging with hormone and have had their mother twist their minds for a long time now.
It serves Kate quite well to turn whomever she can against Jon.
At this point, I couldn't even render an opinion on what Jon has or hasn't done, but I don't believe for one minute that he's intentionally hurt any of his children, or that he doesn't love them.
I saw Jon's love for his kids. You can't fake that, or edit it in.
This comment on the people article is sad but true:
She shipped the dog off for a year to be trained because she didn't want to deal with him either. Poor child !
My thought about Collin is maybe he's somewhere we people actually hug him and give him positive reinforcement for his efforts. Maybe he is learning that he doesn't have to be afraid that his actions will be met with indifference or something worse. Maybe he's learning that he can give someone a gift and they smile and thank him in return.
My hope is that he is receiving the love, hugs, and positive attention that he never appeared to receive from his own mother.
Vanessa said... 198
Well I guess this is the sequel to the Today show debacle? Mady didn't clam up and forget her lines this time? No stage fright? Bravo Mommy Dearest, bravo! Your trained monkey must make you proud.
August 24, 2016 at 11:02 AM
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Mady didn't clam up for the interview with People last time. She's angrier and more defiant now, that's for sure.
Kate knows that her kids are very comfortable around Kate Coyne and they feel free to tell Coyne anything they want.
It's disgusting that Kate knows damn well that the headlines are going to be Mady and Colin. That's exactly that's trending.
Did Kate actually say that it's not like Colin just disappeared, rather, the other kids have been getting used to his absence so deploying him to some program really isn't all that bad?
Is she really believing that somehow having Colin's schooling and bed separate prepared the kids for his absence and alleviated the pain and suffering they feel?
I could never photograph just the seven...I would be destroyed...but not her...SHES ON THE COVER !!!!!
Kate is incapable of being introspective - that requires someone to admit that they might have been wrong.
Newsflash Kate - Most parents lose their shit at one time or another. No one is perfect. You are not special.
Poor, poor Kate. Having to do this all alone...
@Swimgirl This is why a part of me believes either LOM doesn't exist or their relationship is so abnormal that milo doesn't see anything wrong with what Kate is doing.I can't for the life see how any of her fans thinks its ok for the twins to hate their father and approve of Kate not doing anything to help that relationship.Apart of me wonders if Kate's fans are either divorce moms who hate their ex husband or their relationship with their spouse is so similar to Jon and Kate's.In fact i have an aunt and uncle whose marriage reminds so much of Jon and Kate's.
don't give us that bullshit...you CHOOSE to deal with it alone....idiot
I just sent a comment to TLC to express my disappointment at their continued support of Kate Gosselin, in light of this horrible violation of her young son's privacy. Funny -- the word I needed to type to prove that I was a real person was "crime."
Wasn't there a recent (relatively) episode where C wasn't along for something then had to sit in the couch with the other boys and had nothing to say? And that zip line scene was at least a year ago. Did she send him away forever? Can't/won't Jon intervene and take him???
Tucker's mom said...27
Kate's utter failure and biggest regret introspectively is that she lost her shit too often?
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No, she would never say it like that!
She would say, I lost it just a tad. She is ALWAYS MINIMIZING everything when she abuses the children and the animals.
This is a pearl clutching, putrid filled People Magazine cluster- pus!
Tucker's Mom said... 21
http://www.people.com/article/mady-cara-gosselin-open-up-about-dad-jon-gosselin
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Play the video and listen between the lines of what Kate Coyne is saying. She is digging deep to spin the photo shoot into a Norman Rockwell painting, and it just falls short.
Shooting is work and it's long and tedious
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OMG Coune is the only reason this wench is still getting cover stories. Sounds like it was chaos! Didn't that same child have a tantrum at another shoot and have to be bribed into wearing an outfit she hated? Spoiled
BTW, just because TFW says the other kids are in therapy, doesn't mean they really are. Can you imagine her coordinating 7 appointments? I sure can't. Maybe she did some kind of one-and-done talk with a counselor. I think her priority now is to make herself look like a kind and caring parent, so that gravy train will keep on going.
I can't even imagine how hurt Jon is by all of this....he should put a statement out saying how disappointed he is by the mother of his children talking publicly about this....that would burn her ass...
The family is obviously in serious turmoil. Collin sent away, the older girls bashing their father and no relationship, and she's on the Fu@$ing cover of People with her Mr. Ed face like she won the lottery. And making her kids do the same. She is a disgusting, vile human being.
She's pretty much off my radar now, despite my interest in the psychology of...her weirdness. But a few thoughts I had upon seeing this today -
I think there are multiple reasons for this PR article. TLC is trying to prep for the upcoming shows and bolster potential ratings, and also trying to gauge if there is "outrage" and interest or just apathy about her, a la the Duggars and their test run. On a secondary note, they are trying to "ease" any outrage before airing by getting it out there now. TLC will never give up the Duggars because they are too out there so have the continual train wreck factor still, but Kate is dispensible. This is to gain eyeballs and let it simmer down before shows.
If she had one iota of putting her family's health before money, she would have ditched the show. This here should show anyone her true character, if nothing else.
I have a suspicion that he is actually out of state and possibly pretty far away, due to some commentary I saw online awhile back, so here's hoping he gets what he needs, away from them all, and it's the best thing for that child. The rest of them, she will reap what she sowed.
I just took a look at Kate's tweet about the magazine cover and most comments are negative. https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/768451746700013569
It's just a matter time until some tabloid reporter finds out where C is 😡
OMG.....Mr. Ed face.....hahahaha
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Sunday, July 1, 2012
UPDATE: Minnesota Judge Has 200 Blunt Words for Divorcing Parents (02/28/15)
UPDATE: February 28, 2015
Thought I would add a few comments on "Points to Ponder" on those Advocates that a spreading the word on our Social Media that: "Parent Alienation is Child Abuse"
To be Absolutely Clear. Of course I recognize that
"Alienation" exists.
But, do consider these thoughts:
First the Child Protective AGENCY has a big enough shopping list, sorta speak, of what is deemed "Child Abuse" (Getting it wrong too many times, by removing children with little evidence).
Second to merely say "Parent" Alienation" is a bit short sighted. Their may be others within the Family that may be responsible for "Alienation". So, I prefer the phrase "Family" Alienation.
Third, I am a strong believer that the Parents brought a Precious child into the world and they should be responsible, No matter what their location.
Believe me in my life journey, I've experienced ALL THE ABOVE. Noting, I am experiencing this with one of my Granddaughters.
HOWEVER, one is asking our Government, Courts, etc. to solve said concern...
BUT, the turn around and say there is too much Government, Courts, etc. Control.
THINK ABOUT IT??
(Key Phrase "parens patriae">>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parens_patriae)
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Original Post: July 1, 2012
Although some may feel it is rare, some judges actually know what they are talking about. Received a copy of a news article from 2001. Thought I would take the time to type the words of this judge out.
Please note in our discussion group over the years with one common goal in mind “Defending Ourselves against False Allegations.” Although this article eludes to Parent Alienation, here is one thought we all may want to consider: “We do not OWN Our Children. We as adults are merely here to Guide them through Sharing, Caring, and Guidance, with the hopes, that they too will become Responsible Adults. Noting, of course, Responsibility is not necessarily a Democratic Process?”
So here is the article by the judge:
Minnesota Judge Has 200 Blunt Words
for Divorcing Parents
By Judge Michael Haas
2001
“Your children have come into this world because of the two of you. Perhaps you two made lousy choices as to whom you decided to be the other parent. If so, that is your problem and your fault.
No matter what you think of the other party—or what your family thinks of the other party—these children are one-half of each of your. Remember that, because every time you tell your child what an “idiot” his father is, or what a “fool” his mother is, or how bad the absent parent is, or what terrible things that person has done, you are telling the child half of him is bad.
That is an unforgivable thing to do to a child. That is not love. That is possession. If you do that to your children, you will destroy them as surely as if you had cut them into pieces, because that is what you are doing to their emotions.
I sincerely hope that you do not do that to your children. Think more about your children and less about yourselves, and make yours a selfless kind of love, not foolish or selfish, or your children will suffer.”
Original Article
The following advice from retired Minnesota Judge has been circulating for years among judges, attorneys and child advocates as powerful words of advice for all parents going through a divorce. We hope you'll take the time to read them!
Judge Michael Haas retired in December 2002 after 26 years of service as a Judge in Cass County, Minnesota. In a letter written to advice columnist Abigail Van Buren as early as October 1994 by attorney Paul J. Kiltinen of Baxter, Minnesota, Mr. Kiltinen shared the following remarks by Judge Hass in a particularly difficult divorce case, describing the Judge's remarks as "some of the most profound words of wisdom I've ever heard from the bench in all my years as an attorney. His philosophy could provide insight to all parents, especially those who are involved in difficult dissolutions."
Judge Haas' concise advice in less than 200 words is so well known and so widely respected that it has been referenced in multiple appellate court decisions, including Burke v. Burke, Tennessee Court of Appeals, No. M2000-01111-COA-R3-CV, Aug. 7, 2001 and Krupp v. Cunningham-Grogan, Tennessee Court of Appeals, No. M2005-01098-COA-R3-CV, August 29, 2006.
It's also been cited in Lawyers Weekly USA No. 9921543 and in Don R. Ash's law review article, Bridge Over Troubled Water: Changing the Custody Law in Tennessee, 27 U. Mem. L. Rev. 769, 771-72 (1997).
This message was "resurrected" in 2000 when it was republished as a letter published by advice columnist Ann Landers (the twin sister of "Dear Abby").
More than 15 years after the fact, Judge Haas' moving words are sprinkled all over the Internet, found on court websites, blogs, attorney webpages, in court decisions and in law journals.
We don't know if Judge Haas was speaking extemporaneously on the record or if these 197 words above were purely "off the cuff". Regardless, this message will always remain profound and powerful advice when parents are ready to engage in custody battles for their children.
Localyocul (#46), and whoever gets that information will be scolded by Gladys and company for violating the poor child's privacy. The hypocrisy is staggering.
I noticed the braces too, second time for H. I think for this it's what the orthodontist recommends.JMO.After all, Kate's kids have to have perfect teeth as well as everything else.
With Collin gone, the family outcast will be Alexis. She has been ostracized for years. Mady and Cara are buddies, Aaden and Joel are buddies, and Hannah and Leah are buddies. The girls don't like the boys. The twins don't like the tups. And nobody seems to like Alexis. The others, in recent shows, don't want to room with her, don't want to sit with her. She hits, she often looks angry. And Kate just ignores her. She's the Just look at Alexis's face in the TLC photo of the family. She does not want to be there, and doesn't try to hide it.
In Kate's life, anyone who gets in the way of filming is banished. Family, friends, pets, Jon, now Collin. Will Alexis be next?
I notice that Milo is completely unconcerned about Collin's well-being. It's all about Kate and the tough decision she had to make and how Kate looks in the People pictures. Not a word about Collin. She simply does not care. It's all about Kate.
I also think TLC is testing the waters, seeing what the reaction to the story is, and if it becomes a big news story. If it fizzles, they may realize that interest in Kate and the kids just isn't there.
I forgot to add, expect the "concerned-and-loving-mom-who-was-tormented-by-the-decision" tv interview soon...ugh.
Kate knows that her kids are very comfortable around Kate Coyne and they feel free to tell Coyne anything they want.
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Are the two Kates in bed with each other? I mean, *actually* in a relationship? That would chap Mlio's hide. Something is going on there...
Hmmm...now I'm wondering if TFW saying she doesn't know about the airdates was because TLC might want to show the episodes sooner than October?
ust wondering said... 15
Wow. Haven't been here for ages, but here's my thoughts. I mentioned a year or so ago that my grandson is bipolar & was diagnosed at the age of seven. I also said that the lack of mental health services is what I believe to be behind most shootings: not racism or hatred.
Anyway.. Colin may actually thrive at one of these schools. Meals, bedtime, classes, etc. all on schedule. These schools are really expensive, and if you do your homework, can be really nice. Lots of one on one attention, and little chaos. The exact opposite of his home. Lots of structure and focus on building social skills.
I don't believe for a second that Kate has the patience to work with Colin at home. Never has & never will. And there is just too much stimuli in that house of horrors for him to stay calm. The kid needs structure & a calm environment.
These are really just my musings, but I think Colin is going to thrive there, if it's one of the good residential programs. Better than living with Kate any day!
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Great to see you! I agree that Colin might have a chance to thrive. Kate will never stop filming, stop making them do PR and photo shoots, stop flitting away and leaving them with the nanny of the month.
We've seen the physical nature of the girls, and honestly, I think that could be a major reason to get him out of the house. It hasn't been that long that we've seen shoving, pushing, hitting and spitting. Colin might just get provoked one too many times and something bad could happen.
If he's in a good program, his needs will come first and foremost, and that will never happen at the compound.
And Jon should have called the cops the first & every time that Kate didn't send ALL of the kids out to him. I don't know which of them annoys me the most.
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It could be that he was thinking of the kids and not of himself, that calling law enforcement on Kate would upset them and make things worse.
If Robert reads here, now I truly know why you dedicated the book to Colin. I think the little guy really tugged at your heart.
So all those positive happy well adjusted family from Gladys and mommy dearest have been lies! Things must have been pretty bad while she tweeted sunshine out of her a$$
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I think that one of these days, Gladys will have her eyes opened to a few things. It could be soon, it could be in the distant future, but when it does, all hell will break loose and even if she continues to prattle to her little old Southern heart's content, she will look like the fool that she is.
Just wait. It's coming.
Kathy said... 42
I can't even imagine how hurt Jon is by all of this....he should put a statement out saying how disappointed he is by the mother of his children talking publicly about this....that would burn her ass...
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I have mixed feelings. It's not going to make a damn bit of difference if Jon addresses this latest travesty.
There's not winning other than finding a way to shut Kate down so that she can't keep putting the kids out there in the media, and using them for attention, ratings and money.
I have a suspicion that he is actually out of state and possibly pretty far away, due to some commentary I saw online awhile back, so here's hoping he gets what he needs, away from them all, and it's the best thing for that child. The rest of them, she will reap what she sowed.
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Would not surprise me. I hope he's safe and happy and is getting approval for who he is.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I can't imagine he feels safe and happy after being sent away. He's a 12 year old boy who has been very sheltered and always had his siblings by his side. I'm thinking he's probably feeling very afraid, lonely and abandoned. Poor, poor Collin.
So has she forbidden Jon from visiting Collin? Is Collin allowed to talk to him? I can't imagine any judge allowing a mom to excise a dad like this. Even criminals get contact with their parents
Seems like a good facility would encourage family therapy with C even if by skype
"Harder on the mom"??? WTF are you smoking, milo? There is no way you can turn this one around and make Kate look good, you stupid sycophant. People are on to her now.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 30m30 minutes ago
#SpecialNeeds #JustTakingADifferentPath #CaringForCollin This is harder on the Mom! He will do well! @Kateplusmy8
Maybe Kate should have spent time on early intervention instead of making C work and being away every other week when he was small
Horrified! How could she! The *worst* mother ever!!!!
She's just so smug about being on the cover of People, isn't she. Never mind that she just exposed her kid's most private, intimate business.
Jon talks about the kids on TV and TFW doesn't? What?? Jon is rarely on TV, mostly it seems to be magazine articles (and he certainly doesn't talk about them in great detail, or expose their secrets, or complain/bash them). And what is Mady doing? Talking about Jon publicly? How is what he is doing any different than what Mady is doing???
Ok for Mady and TFW to bash Jon publicly, but not ok for Jon to express concern that he hasn't seen the kids for eons?
I think the reason this came out now is that TLC felt the need to explain why it's +7, not +8.
It generates buzz for when they *do* eventually air something. Or maybe they said to TFW that they weren't airing until she came clean about C. There's something about this that feels forced.
Maybe it's the only interesting thing in TFW's life that she had to bargain with.
TFW said C needed to learn how to problem solve in social settings. Huh. What about her, who melts down about every single teeny thing that doesn't go as expected.
If there's all this uproar in the family due to C, what makes her think adding filming, and two puppies, is a good idea? Nothing like ramping up the chaos.
I think the two puppies were to make up for C being taken away. The ultimate bribe. She's been all too hyper about the puppies from day one. You could tell from her frenetic talking about the puppies that she was lying about something. Just didn't know what. Now we know. She had to cover up the truth as to why the puppies arrived.
I think the reason she lied and said the kids wouldn't tolerate a school picture is because she couldn't take a school picture with only 7 of them without generating a bunch of hoopla, and she can't get C there to take the picture since he's not at home. She needed some excuse to not do a school picture then. Voila! The kids won't tolerate it.
I agree with posters above who expressed concern about C possibly being housed with children who have vastly different problems than his own. He seemed pretty high functioning to me. IMO, TFW just doesn't want to be bothered having to treat one child any differently than the others. She just wants to yell instructions vaguely at the whole group and they just do whatever it is.
So....who needed rent money this month? Hmmm??
Except it isn't rent money that triggers her, it's the attention.
My heart breaks for the poor little guy. He didn't deserve this.
I hope LOM gets her some help. She is terminally out to lunch.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 38m38 minutes ago
Every #SpecialNeedsChild is UNIQUE! No one knows him better than YOU! Totally ur call as to what is best to assist him! :) @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 35m35 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Folks need to quit saying "you R sending him away"...Not true! You are making available 2him the tools he needs 2b successful!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 28m28 minutes ago
@LisaFray @Kateplusmy8 Tabloids are referring to Kate having her son Collin attending a #SpecialNeedsSchool as being "sent away"! Not true!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 19m19 minutes ago
@LisaFray @Kateplusmy8 Trolls R piling on w/their 2cents of knowing nothing here. Hard call 4Kate...but. LOVE motivates this change 4 him!
Question: Is it possible that Kate made this decision without even informing Jon? Or telling him where Collin is? Could she legally get away with that?
TFW wants her glory days back and she's probably hoping that this will bring more interviews. Any reputable journalist should call her out on airing this info about Collin. She should be appalled by what Mady said, but she isn't because Mady is only repeating what she's heard TFW say since the divorce. Unfortunately Mady seems to be a mini Kate and enjoys the spotlight and the material things. Jon can't give that to her. Maybe John has said something like "your mother is turning you against me." Toxic or true? The four that spend time with Jon always seem happy if he posts a picture.
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/mady-cara-gosselin-talk-why-000000494.html
No wonder Jon doesn't see C when he gets off the school bus.....
That would explain why he hasn't seen C in a year and a half....the kid wasn't at home.
Layla said... 52
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I agree. She is really left out by the tup girls as you stated.If looks could kill, Alexis would be a goner. I think she's very genuine. One episode where they were wrapping Shoka's birthday gifts, H said emphatically. "She's nuts." Funny that wasn't reprimanded when Collin's sibling-like remark about H's hair resulted in a full-on lecture for Collin.
It could be that he was thinking of the kids and not of himself, that calling law enforcement on Kate would upset them and make things worse.
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I used to think it would make things worse because of Kate....not Mady....
Librarylady (#53), yes, the "poke and dab" tour is probably being booked as we speak.
So TFW admits there have been problems going on for years? Well, golly, wouldn't a good mother have abandoned the "one week home, one week away" lifestyle she claimed worked best for her family to attend to that child's special needs? I still can't believe she spent a solid month away from home to do Celebrity Apprentice. If the children had a father at home, or even if the divorce was less acrimonious and they could've stayed with him, it might've been a reasonable decision. But with what we know now? I find that utterly irresponsible.
And knowing what we know now, TFW's Instagram Puppy Summer seems like a steaming pile of deception. That is not a happy household.
kris said... 62
I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I can't imagine he feels safe and happy after being sent away. He's a 12 year old boy who has been very sheltered and always had his siblings by his side. I'm thinking he's probably feeling very afraid, lonely and abandoned. Poor, poor Collin.
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I can not even begin to imagine being a 12-year old child and being taken away from my home. There are no words.
Not to say this isn't the right thing to do. I have no idea. Just knowing Kate, I believe this works out best for her and her designs on life.
Sad but true (#67), awww, wasn't it sweet
and sensitive of Gladys to brand C as a #SpecialNeedsChild on Twitter, with its own hashtag and everything? She's all about the kids, isn't she? I haven't watched the show in years, but do they still describe each child at the beginning of the episode? Maybe for the new episodes, TFW can say, "C is our Special Needs Child!"
Gladys' love and lust for TFW blind her to anything remotely resembling rational thought.
She has never, ever been Team Kids -- only Team TFW. And she's falling all over herself today to try to make TFW seem like the good mother that exists only in her fantasies.
My kid went ten miles away to college last fall and about had a nervous breakdown the first week from anxiety and homesickness. She came out fine but imagine a kid with issues going away at 12
Yup, every looks really happy in this picture.
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Wow, just 2 or 3 years ago Kate was claiming on talk shows that the kids were doing great "across the board" and were at the top of their class at school. So, what happened to Collin since then? Are we to believe that he went from top of his class and doing great across the board to needing to be removed from his school and then from his family in such a short period of time? What happened in those 2-3 years? Other than resuming filming, of course.
Hmm, Kate says the problems with Collin have been going on for a long time?
Remember when Jon did an interview and said something about some of the kids having developmental delays, and Kate took to her website and blasted him about it? That was back in November 2013. This is what Kate had to say:
"Because he has spoken negatively about our children, I feel I owe it to them to respond on their behalf. Each and every one of our children has met and continues to exceed all physical, mental and emotional developmental milestones throughout their lives. Their normal development is regularly monitored by myself, their pediatrician and school staff, as is usual within any family.
It is also very normal in a family, especially a large family, to have a full range of personalities, abilities, talents, hobbies and struggles. Ours is no different. However, anyone who has personally met our children all have the same thing to say: they are the most normal, pleasant, polite, loving and well adjusted children they have ever met. Most even go on to say that they are a “a delight” to be around.
When our kids grow up, they may see their father’s latest interview and wonder why he made untrue and hurtful statements about them. I know that I risk stirring up an unwanted public and private “frenzy” by commenting on this, but, if our children ever stumble upon that interview, I want to be able to point them to this statement so that they know that I publicly set the record 100% straight on this one, for their sake."
So I guess she was lying back then.
It was bad enough last year when she mentioned Collin having some problems, but now she has to take it even further and provide more specifics.
To bad her "love" for Collin(that Milo touts) didn't keep her from respecting his privacy and airing his personal problems.
Layla said... 76
This "problem" with Collin was clear as the nose on your face at least 7 years ago, when the two were expelled for behavioral issues. If Collin was indeed "special needs" at that time, why wasn't it dealt with? There certainly seem to have been plenty of clues, starting with the expulsion.
And Kate knew it, too. But her ego just could not abide having to shut down the circus for the sake of a kid who, it appears, she has had issues with virtually since birth. It's unfortunate that in the course of the seven years since the school brought the problems to her attention, she has downplayed them and apparently refused to get him any serious help.
She is a poor facsimile of a human being, let alone a mother.
Jon responds:
http://www.etonline.com/news/196431_jon_gosselin_fires_back_after_kate_and_his_twins_tell_all_i_m_very_upset/
Localyocul said... 69
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/mady-cara-gosselin-talk-why-000000494.html
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The Yahoo comments are brutal!
Jane said... 81
Jon responds:
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Not much of a response, was it? One line, and then the rest was a rehash of his earlier interview this month and what Kate/twins said the People. I wonder if they're saving up anything else he said to spin it out into multiple little pieces, as they seem to like to do.
I think he's been gone a year. Or more. Hannah refused to go home in 2015 because of the way her mom treated C. I wonder if she was upset he was being sent away
http://www.webpronews.com/jon-gosselin-did-he-remove-daughter-hannah-from-kate-gosselins-care-was-he-granted-emergency-custody-2015-05/
KIAT (#79), thanks for unearthing that statement from TFW. She's really not clever enough to keep her stories straight, is she?
A quick thank you to Admin and the pool girls and cabana boys for keeping up with our fast and furious comments today. Your hard work and dedication are appreciated.
Play the video and listen between the lines of what Kate Coyne is saying. She is digging deep to spin the photo shoot into a Norman Rockwell painting, and it just falls short.
Shooting is work and it's long and tedious.
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STFU Coyne.
Kate as much as SAID the shoot was exhausting. She posted about it! That shoot must be what she was talking about. And foot rub gate followed.
You know it occurs to me if Collin is in some kind of group home Jon should take a copy of his family law order and show up during visiting hours. They won't be able to stop him no matter how much Kate hates it.
Kate added that his brothers, Aaden and Joel, attend special therapy sessions to deal with Collin’s absence. However, she said that Collin has always been on a different path than the rest of the sextuplets. “Over the past year or so, Collin had such a different schedule — different schooling, different therapies, his own room — that his leaving wasn’t like one day he was sharing a room and on the bus with them and suddenly he wasn’t.”
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Wow! That statement if f^cking cold! She really is an unfeeling, unmitigated ass.
It's also possible she was required to send him to more intensive treatment, by social workers working with the school, a recommendation of his IEP, etc. That can't be ruled out. I suppose this might not have been voluntary on her part.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 89
You know it occurs to me if Collin is in some kind of group home Jon should take a copy of his family law order and show up during visiting hours. They won't be able to stop him no matter how much Kate hates it.
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That's what I said! Noes his chance
And the negative comments just keep on growing https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/768451746700013569
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I didn't realize Collin had his own bedroom. After all that work making the boys' room from a freezer room ! Wonder where it was located? Not to be creepy or nosy, just wondering the extent of his isolation, and why.
I remember many times when kHate would pawn Collin off onto Jon when the little boy was obstinate or uncooperative. Jon would get down eye-level with Collin and talk to him reasonably about his behavior. Good parenting, in my opinion.
And the negative comments just keep on growing https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/768451746700013569
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Look at the half dozen members of production hanging around, one of them gulping down a slurpie while the rest of the family sweats under the lights. So ridic.
The comments are SCATHING, and most of them just look like random people, not the usual haters.
What's happened to the twins will affect them for years. This is really, terribly wrong.
I don't believe for a minute that they don't love Jon. They are teens, raging with hormone and have had their mother twist their minds for a long time now.
It serves Kate quite well to turn whomever she can against Jon.
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A huge red flag for a coached child is their inabilty to provide specific explanations or examples for why they feel the way they feel. This includes whether it's made up abuse or parental alienation. This is the twins to a T. Everything they have ever said about Jon is vague, general, non-specific, devoid of details that would give their stories some credibilty. And they do CLASSIC manipulation which only an adult could teach them, by turning it around and asking JON to think about why they don't want to see him. I.e. putting it on Jon to explain (knowing full well he can't)
They have never said exactly what it is about him they take issue with.
Classic coached, brainwashed children. I'm very sorry their mother did that to them.
Maybe picking up a toddler by the hair and throwing him into his crib isn't good for a developing brain? 🤔
Oh great it was on E! News
Omg I'm watching E! News and Kate Gosselin sent her son Colin away like I was---mini me! Poor Colin though lol
I wish Kate would substitute in "my so-called fame" for "my so-called art" in the quote on this post and take it to heart:
"I don’t want to mar my children’s glory and subvert their beginnings for my so-called art"
Mady didn't clam up for the interview with People last time. She's angrier and more defiant now, that's for sure.
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In years past I think that child has been very torn. She has been told to bash her father, but she has been reluctant to do it. Same with Cara. Now the parental alienation is complete, she is more confident, and more time is past where Jon hasn't insisted on seeing her.
That child darn well felt torn about this before it got to this point. She KNEW this was wrong before the brain washing was complete.
Admin (#97), and M using the word "toxic?" She hasn't shown herself to be particularly well-read or articulate. She could've said lousy, crummy, bad, weak, distant, poor...a dozen other words to convey her disappointment with her father. But "toxic?" That is an adult word, and the adult
she heard using it was her mother. Not a doubt in my mind.
Admin (#97), and M using the word "toxic?" She hasn't shown herself to be particularly well-read or articulate. She could've said lousy, crummy, bad, weak, distant, poor...a dozen other words to convey her disappointment with her father. But "toxic?" That is an adult word, and the adult
she heard using it was her mother. Not a doubt in my mind.
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No doubt either. If a kid said that to me in an intake interview I would say, oh, what does that mean, toxic? (I often play dumb about words kids use, looking for THEIR defintion of it i.e. grounded, beat, time outs.)
If they could even provide a credible definition of it, I'd then say, so what about your dad is toxic, can you explain that? Then, can you think of an example of a time when he was "toxic"?
If they can't answer those with any credibilty, I would then be writing CHILD APPEARS COACHED in the file.
Poor Barb. Still inhaling the Kool-Aid.
barbgilmer1@kateplusmy8 I called Everywhere and can't get one until tomorrow! GRRRRR
It's ALL ONLINE, you think there's going to be anything in the article you haven't already read? Or do you plan to cut out the Kate photos and paper your walls with them, a la Milo?
Just want to make a brief comment on sending kids to residential treatment. I live in New England, and my son just graduated from high school. Within the past few years, two of his classmates went for long-term residential treatment-one to California, one to Utah. The families were tremendously involved in the treatment-family therapy/visitation on at least half the week-ends, reading books and discussing them with with staff at various times, monitored phone calls, family therapy or parent therapy via Skype during the week. A huge commitment of time (and money) by both families-and siblings were included. Both of the kids are now doing well-both have returned home and both are attending community college. I think good residential treatment involves a lot of work on the part of families, from what I have seen. I personally know both families, and both have said that they searched far and wide for a good, comprehensive program for their child.Kate's description of Collin's program sounds like he is isolated from his family-at a time when he really needs their participation.
I agree it's time for Jon to take action (actually it's past time). I have to wonder if he even knows exactly where Collin is at the moment and if the professionals in charge will allow a visit.
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NEWS
EXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin Reacts to Kate and His Twins' 'Shocking' Tell-All: 'I’m Very Upset'
by Philiana Ng 3:00 PM PDT, August 24, 2016
Jon Gosselin is firing back.
The former reality star is sounding off after his ex-wife, Kate Plus 8 star Kate Gosselin, revealed in a tell-all interview that their 12-year-old son, Collin, was away getting help for “special needs.” His 15-year-old twin daughters, Mady and Cara, also spoke ill of their estranged father, questioning his intentions.
“I’m very upset,” Jon, 39, exclusively tells ET. “I love my children very much. I’ve always been there for them and I always will be. It’s shocking.”
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Jon take your order and go see Colin!
I wonder if she has it fixed where if Jon shows up, they are ordered to call the police and call her to let her know. I would not put it past her.
THIS IS SO UPSETTING!
don't give us that bullshit...you CHOOSE to deal with it alone....idiot
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Even taking Jon out of the equation, what about her so-called best friends Steve, Deanna, and Jamie? Her full time nanny? Ashley? Where are they in all this supporting her? She's ALONE? Quite a slam on her supportive friends.
If she had maintained good ties with Jodi she would have helped out too. No one should be alone in caring for their special needs child if they have made ANY effort with family and friends, even if they are divorced.
What about a church network? Call your deacon, explain the situation. Church ladies and a pastor will come support you and help you work on a solution. She is NOT alone.
I am getting nauseous reading Milo's tweets.
I don't understand, understand, understand WHY it he/she is tweeting dog crap like that!?!
SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE, MILO!
There have been so many good comments. If there were a like button, I would've worn it out. lol
It's such a tragic situation. You think the Gosselin saga can't get worse, but it does. I know someone, a single working mother(now retired) who has a severely mentally impaired son. I believe she was single because the father didn't want him. She got him through school, got him a job he could do, and has been involved in special needs events that have taken them all over the world. Then Kate whines that she is so alone. Please.
I have a suspicion that he is actually out of state and possibly pretty far away, due to some commentary I saw online awhile back, so here's hoping he gets what he needs, away from them all, and it's the best thing for that child. The rest of them, she will reap what she sowed.
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She'd probably have to look out of state. There just aren't a lot of placements for the special needs she has described, and when there are, they're full. He's too high functioning, we've SEEN his ability to function at high levels on camera there's no dispute about this--and for the liabilty, they're not going to put him in with children with higher levels of needs and care. Too risky.
The bulk of money on this is spent on in home services. Wrap Around, Family Preservation, DMH services, regional center, services through the school. There aren't a bunch of homes to help kids with high functioning special needs. We assume now these kids can remain home.
Honest question - maybe others have more insight and expertise than I do. What's the difference between special needs and mental health? I understand that special needs may mean physical/mental developmental delays, while mental health issues can affect behaviourial issues.
I ask, as my son's anxiety is classified as a mental health issue, which also affects his emotional maturity as well.
Just curious
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 108
Even taking Jon out of the equation, what about her so-called best friends Steve, Deanna, and Jamie? Her full time nanny? Ashley? Where are they in all this supporting her? She's ALONE? Quite a slam on her supportive friends.
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Not to mention all the teachers and school personnel who tried to help Colin for so many years. Kate's lack of appreciation for them is breathtaking considering how much she depends on their help with her other children.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 111
Perhaps in Chicago???
Nicky said... 112
Kate's comments on his "special needs" say nothing at all. It is not clear how he was able to function, presumably adequately, in his private school from age 6 to age 10. I would think that "special needs" (as in some sort of disability) would be diagnosed pretty early during that period. So my guess is this is primarily an emotional/ behavioral disorder. And interesting how it never seemed to show up on "the realest reality show" over the "very long time" that Kate says she was dealing with it. TLC has a lot to answer for.
I can't believe milo thinks she is helping. And I doubt Kate thinks so either. And how does she know this is "short term"? Anything to lower the heat on Kate.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4m4 minutes ago
Sometimes a Mom has to make painful short term decisions in order to insure positive long term success for her kids! #HerCall @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 It takes humility on a mother's part to come to realize she can't fix everything for her kids...so you get help! #RespectThat
dogsandkids said... 105
I hope really hope it does benefit C but I worry that she will be "too busy" to follow through. Filming and grifting takes alot of her time.
I have been gone a long while, but another People cover, minus Colin, certainly calls out to me to comment. The parents I admire most, the ones I know, the ones I read about are he ones who always put their kids first. The adults relationships may have broken down, but that is secondary to the well-being of their children.
To read the negative comments of Cara and Mady about their father
sickens me. Their mother has turned them against Jon, and there is no easy repair for the damage done. And, poor Colin, who knows what he is dealing with, but Kate does not have the depth of understanding to deal with his issues. Seeing that People cover shot without him just highlights her insensitivity and desire to keep the brand out there. I am disgusted.
Imagine if Collin were to see the cover of People. He gets sent away, is probably lonely and scared and homesick, and there are his mother and siblings, smiling happily in a family photo that doesn't include him.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 It takes humility on a mother's part to come to realize she can't fix everything for her kids...so you get help! #RespectThat
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Now we know Milo is crazy to associate humility with Kate.
Are the twins so cold that they don't have that need deep down? How can they just say they don't need a relationship with him ...
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They appear to be mini-Kates. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. It seems that they got all of Kate's cold genes, and none of Jon's warmth and affection.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 27m27 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 It takes humility on a mother's part to come to realize she can't fix everything for her kids...so you get help! #RespectThat
Kate? Humility? But Gladys, Kate is Mary Poppins. Perfect in every way! What happened?
Gladys is kissing butt again. Her lips must be chapped beyond repair.
Holy cow, what have I missed? Colin's been sent away? And she gets another people cover because of this? I've never seen anything like this in my life. How the hell does she do it?
Holy cow, what have I missed? Colin's been sent away? And she gets another people cover because of this? I've never seen anything like this in my life. How the hell does she do it?
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In bed with Coyne. Obviously.
Milo will never have her eyes opened. She is so far up Kate's rear end that not even a surgical extraction would work. Kravitz is certifiable. Oh, and just plain nuts.
Yes; there was that, and him coming to the birthday party late (people speculated he was working at that farm). It was obvious to me he was away, which means she lied recently about him being homeschooled.
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I don't know if lied is the right way to say it. I think if the idea was to keep this information private, saying he's homeschooled is a good way to explain why he is no longer seen at his school by locals. And in fact I wouldn't fault Kate for telling a white lie like that. I assume if someone is being intentionally vague or misleading about their child's schooling, they are doing so to protect the child, not to just "lie." And that just proves to me that she really is desperate to disclose information that she previously had sense enough to keep silent. If it's not a problem to share this with the public why keep it quiet for so long? And that makes what she did just now disclosing this worse, IMO, because it shows she KNOWS BETTER.
I would imagine that Robert is pulling out his hair right now.
Spot on comment from GKD: @GoKingDaddy: @ConcernedChick @PRFANS @Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack What kind of cruel mom throws away a child & then takes smiling pics of everyone else?
I wonder if TLC is looking at all the negative comments that this story has generated. Comments are overwhelmingly negative.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 27m27 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 It takes humility on a mother's part to come to realize she can't fix everything for her kids...so you get help! #RespectThat
Kate? Humility? But Gladys, Kate is Mary Poppins. Perfect in every way! What happened?
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Nice spin, Buttkiss!! No one is saying Kate shouldn't get Colin help, all the help he needs. Heck, even if it means him being out of the home, if that's truly the right thing to do. The problem is she is exploiting it. And I'm really not convinced she made best efforts to treat his issues at home. I think it's like anything with her, it's shiny at first, then it gets fingerprints all over it but instead of cleaning it, she just throws it out.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BJfnG52AT8r/
Aren't photoshoots thrilling? Standing around in one spot in the weather in clothes you would never wear without anything to do not even play on your phone while some 20-something grips stand around holding shit and slurping slurpies and the photographer yells at you to smile. And you're old enough to know this is all B.S. and that you're NOT a happy family.
It's understandable why my pre-teen kiddos HATED THIS fake crap.
Now we know Milo is crazy to associate humility with Kate.
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Yes, Milo. It was her call. Not your call, and putting herself on the magazine cover was, perhaps, one of the worst ones she's ever made. She will do ANYTHING to stay in the limelight. She is a despicable piece of you-know-what, and Milo supports this. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
I don't read People and I don't read the discussion. What are the general comments?
I bet she made a half-baked effort to try to make the puppies the story. Why not do a covershoot with them and their antics? She may have even pitched that. But when that didn't pan out and they didn't see that as being interesting enough, she launched the last resort Operation Valkyrie, bust out with the news about Collin.
She didn't have to say anything about Collin. Everyone would have assumed he just didn't want to be photographed, not that big of a deal.
don’t want to mar my children’s glory and subve...":
Imagine if Collin were to see the cover of People. He gets sent away, is probably lonely and scared and homesick, and there are his mother and siblings, smiling happily in a family photo that doesn't include him.
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And he might.
Low level group homes usually take kids on outings in the community, which could include grocery stores or convenience stores to spend their allowance, where he could very well see that.
I too have been gone for a long time. I still read here occasionally but thought I finally had this terrible woman out of my psyche. I thought she could sink no lower but this is it. How she can put this child's emotional problems out to the world like this is so beyond any form of comprehension. She has no shame, no morals, no compassion, nothing good in her at all. She truly is a sociopath. It's all about the ratings and the money to her to the extent she is willing to sacrifice her children's mental health and future security and stability. I am so angry at what she is and has gotten away with. I know Jon has been defended here and for a long time I defended him too but as time went on I lost all respect for him. I truly wanted him to come out beating her but he is just as guilty as Kate is in this whole nightmare. He never really fought for his kids. He might have started to fight but he always gave up and let that witch make the calls and control him and the kids. He is a lazy, poor excuse for a man. I have no doubt he loves his kids but they were never worth him really protecting and fighting for. This is just as much his fault as it is hers. How can any man not see his son for two years and not fight? How can he be okay with only taking the kids that were there when he picked them up? They all needed him in their lives. These two terrible parents have officially ruined their kids childhoods and have caused scars that will never go away. As far as the twins, Kate is buying them. I have no doubt about that. She bribes, buys, and brainwashes. She makes me sick. They both do.
She didn't have to say anything about Collin. Everyone would have assumed he just didn't want to be photographed, not that big of a deal.
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She will never shut up. That mouth is always running over, and this time it's worse than ever.
Is Collin the one who was picked up by the hair and slammed into the crib?
She dares to talk about the "absent parent"---like it was his choice? Like when she decided to film on his custody time? Or take his kids out of state for prolonged filming vacays? She's truly out of line, and anyone who knows the story knows it.
“They do struggle and it’s not going to be an easy road,” she tells People. “Anyone who grows up with a parent who is often absent is going to have issues to deal with. At the end of the day I just want them to make good choices. And so far they really have been.”
The 41-year-old says her sons Aaden and Joel are in therapy together, while Collin has special needs, and is living away from home as part of a program expected to help his “life skills.” With Jon basically out of the picture completely, Kate has had to deal with Collin’s problems alone, and admits she’s noticed how it’s affected her seven other kids. “[They] realize that so much of my time and attention focus had to be devoted to Collin and trying to get him the help he needs,” she explains.
I believe her children were probably grateful to have her "time and attention" on Collin---less trauma for them. I wonder what that looks like now.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 125
Yes; there was that, and him coming to the birthday party late (people speculated he was working at that farm). It was obvious to me he was away, which means she lied recently about him being homeschooled.
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I don't know if lied is the right way to say it. I think if the idea was to keep this information private, saying he's homeschooled is a good way to explain why he is no longer seen at his school by locals. And in fact I wouldn't fault Kate for telling a white lie like that.
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Yeah, that's a good point. Good point too that it makes what she just did even worse
“They do struggle and it’s not going to be an easy road,” she tells People. “Anyone who grows up with a parent who is often absent is going to have issues to deal with. At the end of the day I just want them to make good choices. And so far they really have been.”
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Maybe she's talking about herself! She's the one who was gone for days and weeks at a time during their formative years while she played celebrity in those brief couple years where she was halfway relevant.
Who am I kidding, she means Jon.
And really, blaming a child's issues on an "absent parent"? It COULD be, but it also could be filming and being exploited, for gosh sakes! And being a child celebrity when you're far too young to emotionally handle it. And having a narcissistic mother. Why not blame THAT? The idea that she would pin the causation of this on Jon when there are so many truly difficult things this child has had to deal with in his young life is truly un-fucking-believable. And to think a drive by had the nerve to suggest a short time ago that it's an "opinion" that Kate alienates Jon. It's not an opinion, it's a fact, in writing, her own words.
I'm sure Milo is scanning the Internet, to see if Kate is trending somewhere so she can be the first to tweet her congratulations. And then she can dust off that old hashtag (#stillnewsworthy) that she hasn't been able to use in so long.
Nicky said... 112
Honest question - maybe others have more insight and expertise than I do. What's the difference between special needs and mental health? I understand that special needs may mean physical/mental developmental delays, while mental health issues can affect behaviourial issues.
I ask, as my son's anxiety is classified as a mental health issue, which also affects his emotional maturity as well.
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I think of Special Needs as something that would qualify for an IEP..learning disability/autistic spectrum/intellectual disability. As opposed to a mental health disorder like Anxiety/Depression/Opositional Defiant Disorder or Bipolar or Schizophrenic (although he would be very young to be DX as Schizophrenic)
“He makes it seem like we’re being kept from him, which is insane,” Mady tells the magazine.
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Again I understand Mady is coming at this from the eyes of a 15 year old. She's too young to get this. But regardless of her feeling like she didn't "want" to see him, she HAS been kept from him. You don't let a 13 year old run the show with her own father and the alienation contributed to her ill feelings. The court runs the show. The parents are obligated to follow the court orders regardless if a child is resisting. If the child continues to refuse, the parents need to bring it back to court and explain what the problem is. But Jon is absolutely right, Mady, that she HAS been kept from him. Both emotionally in the alienation, and physically in that her mother didn't put her in the car and bring her there.
Remember Jon trying to call the kids on Couples Therapy and being terribly upset when he had difficulty setting up phone contact because of Kate? Mady may not even know the half of Jon's efforts to keep contact with his children that were shut down.
Well, if there's any upside to this turn of events, I hope that Collin will never have to stand in front of a TLC (or People mag) camera again. Ever. Unless it's HIS choice.
I think of Special Needs as something that would qualify for an IEP..learning disability/autistic spectrum/intellectual disability. As opposed to a mental health disorder like Anxiety/Depression/Opositional Defiant Disorder or Bipolar or Schizophrenic (although he would be very young to be DX as Schizophrenic)
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Yep and special needs includes physical.
You could have a child who need a wheelchair but is a straight A student with no behavior problems. He still has special needs. Even a little person could be classified as special needs because they may need a few accommodations in the classroom like a stool, or no contact sports in gym.
It's just a really broad word to describe any child who needs an accommodation for any reason. And it's a nice word IMO, very unassuming. I usually use that term in court.
Maybe Kate should have spent time on early intervention instead of making C work and being away every other week when he was small
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Head start, Mommy and Me, PCIT. She should have been doing that when he was 4, not galavanting around the country dragging him in tow.
Guess what, having a child with special needs is a lot of extra hours and work. There probably ain't time for filming when all is said and done.
Selfish cow.
She has the nerve to talk about the kids having issues because they are growing up with an "absent" parent??? How about the issues they have from seeing the people and pets they loved banished from their lives by their mother? Their aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents, family friends, their dogs, their dad, and their brother. What do they learn from that? Are they able to form normal attachments to others? Maybe that's why the kids tend to pair up like they do. Will they be able to form healthy attachments to their future spouses and children when they grow up? All they have ever learned is that people are disposable. They learned from Kate, and they have learned that from TLC, who has tossed them aside before. How can they possibly grow up to be normal, emotionally healthy adults? What kind of spouses will they be? Can you imagine the kind of wife Mady will someday be? Yikes!
Someone just dumped this on Twitter. There's one of these in Eastern PA. Wonder if that's where he is.
Chablis @Chablis4u 1m1 minute ago
@Kateplusmy8 @people Shame on you for sending Colin to Devereux . Maybe you should join him there.
They seem to serve just about any "out of the norm" adolescents. http://www.devereux.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pa_services
Way to go Kate:
Stephanie Bond @HarshTweet 45m45 minutes ago
Mady Gosselin: so your dad can't talk about you on TV, but your mom can sell a story about your family to People, do I have that right?
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Right. I mean Mady doesn't get it, she's too young, and it's not her fault, and she was never taught otherwise. She's not old enough or mature enough to see the irony.
Mom's allowed to absolutely trash dad, SHE'S allowed to trash Dad, but Dad can't say anything.
She's going to have a rude awakening when she discovers most friends, boyfriends, professors, coaches, are not going to put up with this kind of manipulation. Kate has set her up for severe social struggles by allowing this attitude and behavior.
YEP. I have a friend who has a teen who got so depressed they took her to a crisis center. The teen didn't have an active plan for suicide and the counselor recommended against hospitalization at that point for that very reason. This was a good, wholesome teen who would be in there with kids who have very big behavioral issues.
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That does not surprise me. 9 times out of 10 they're not going to put a kid in a facility.
When a kid is actually put in some kind of hospitalization I really perk up, means it's REALLY serious.
Has anyone ever visited a child in a mental hospital for kids? I have. Del Almo. What an experience. Kids wearing pajama-like outfits, and socks. Nothing else. Roaming the floors of their unit. This kid did well there and was released in about 15 days to a foster home. It's not supposed to be a long term solution.
@Admin (147) And that's only if Mady really said that.We have seen Kate always put words into the kids mouths before.Remember she claims all 8 said that they want to stay with her when they're adults and yet Leah and another child said on the show that they're leaving as they can.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 148
YEP. I have a friend who has a teen who got so depressed they took her to a crisis center. The teen didn't have an active plan for suicide and the counselor recommended against hospitalization at that point for that very reason. This was a good, wholesome teen who would be in there with kids who have very big behavioral issues.
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That does not surprise me. 9 times out of 10 they're not going to put a kid in a facility.
When a kid is actually put in some kind of hospitalization I really perk up, means it's REALLY serious.
Has anyone ever visited a child in a mental hospital for kids? I have. Del Almo. What an experience. Kids wearing pajama-like outfits, and socks. Nothing else. Roaming the floors of their unit. This kid did well there and was released in about 15 days to a foster home. It's not supposed to be a long term solution.
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I've not visited a specific child but I have been inside one on my job. Yes, it's supposed to be short-term. That's why I said how long has this been? I've also been in alternative high schools...they seem nothing like Collin.
Sad but true said... 146
Someone just dumped this on Twitter. There's one of these in Eastern PA. Wonder if that's where he is.
Chablis @Chablis4u 1m1 minute ago
@Kateplusmy8 @people Shame on you for sending Colin to Devereux . Maybe you should join him there.
They seem to serve just about any "out of the norm" adolescents. http://www.devereux.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pa_services
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I saw that and wondered if that person was reading here because I mentioned that program early on. It's a program Sylvester Stallone actually attended.
http://articles.philly.com/1987-05-07/news/26164453_1_military-school-college-professors-school-of-last-resort
I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I can't imagine he feels safe and happy after being sent away. He's a 12 year old boy who has been very sheltered and always had his siblings by his side. I'm thinking he's probably feeling very afraid, lonely and abandoned. Poor, poor Collin.
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It can be especially difficult for multiples to be separated out. They have a special relationship and can really struggle when separated. I think it's worse for high order multiples because the fear of being left behind and left out from the rest of the pack must be overwhelming. This could do real damage, and I do hope he has the best therapists in the business to help him.
I went and watched that clip and I don't know about Collin being away but the way he spoke, in my opinion was so mature and...I don't know how to describe it other than say that nothing about this kid screams "special needs that require home removal and institutionalization".
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Agree Roxy.
His interviews are brief and not very common, but when he does speak there is nothing, whatsoever, special needs about this child. Good eye contact, appropriate emotion, appropriate responses, engaged with his environment.
It could be more of a behavioral problem then actual autism or anything like that. And those things tend to be more in response to outside events and environments, rather than something organic he was born with. Enter Kate as the causation.
I haven't posted here in a long time. I thought we were done with her. It never ends.
If Collin did nothing terrible and she sent him away because she can't deal with his "bad attitude," she should not have been on People, calling attention to her bad parenting. What a jerk.
If Collin did something really bad and is in fact some sort of juvenile hall, she should have not been on People. She should let him get his therapy with as little fanfare as possible. What a jerk.
If Collin has no behavioral issues and is in a school for special ed, why is he sent away? And why were there no signs of any cognitive delay in thousands of hours of filming?
She is vile.
I was thinking the same thing as whoever said it earlier. I bet Kate used this story to tell Jon that Colin is gone from home! She's a horrible, detestable person. And a bad mother. She has no interest in the effort needed to keep Colin at home. He seemed relatively high functioning. He was loving, took care of the animals, talked normally. If she let him go to public school he could have gotten most of the help he needed. But she can't risk mixing with the mediocre people.
Kate has no idea what people go through to keep special needs kids at home. (I believe special needs is any disability, physical or mental, for which the child requires help in education or developmental skills.) a different schedule? His own room? That's easy! My niece was minimally responsive, trach/vented, for 2 1/2 years. My sister fought to bring her home rather than a pediatric nursing home. We had to be able to see her all the time. Home renovations, 24/7 nursing, money, time, supplies, constant dealing with doctors and insurance, etc. She has since recovered and we are thrilled. But even at her worst, when we wondered if she was in there, she made it clear that she knew she came home each time (multiple hospital stays) and she wanted to be there!
Poor Colin. Although maybe not. Maybe he is punished less. No wooden spoon. I also don't blame Mady. She has been molded into what she is now.
Chablis @Chablis4u 46m46 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @people Shame on you for sending Colin to Devereux . Maybe you should join him there.
Did Kate say that Collin is at Devereux or is that speculation? I did some interning there when I was studying for my master's. If true, I hope he does well.
Have the sheep been called to the barnyard for damage control? Sound the alarm! Kate strikes again.
Jon was right about one thing. Kate needs a psych evaluation. There is something seriously wrong with her. I'm not sure if it's because she's socially awkward, doesn't think before she takes action, or if her brain is mis-firing, but there are some physical (and mental) connections that just aren't working the way they should. She will never stop exploiting her children, and there is no excusing this emotional abuse. Those kids will be so screwed up, if they aren't already.
Jeanne (#125), your comment about your niece brought me to tears. Your sister stopped at nothing to make that horrible situation tolerable, and I'm so happy to hear that your niece is okay now. But I can't for the life of me imagine TFW going to such lengths for any of her children.
I'm not sure I buy TFW's comment that it's hard for the other kids because she devotes so much time and attention to C. Sounds like a convenient way to excuse away the drastic step of removing him from the home. Putting the needs of the other 7 ahead of what was best for one.
Being Conservative, a very popular Facebook group with almost 3 million followers, shared the story, and the comments are overwhelmingly scathing.
Most people are stuck on the fact that she would send him away instead of getting him services at home, with many pointing out that this sounds more like divorce issues than mental health issues, and some were offended this is called special needs. Ironically just as we have here, there was a discussion about how he probably wouldn't even qualify for most out of home care, with a few pointing out if it's a private facility it might be easier to get him in. Several parents with special needs children popped on to say she should have tried this or that if she hasn't already: IEP, BIP, para support. Someone pointed out she acted like they were sending him off to college, and was offended. Good, well thought thread.
I think this consensus carries a lot of weight since Kate's fans seem to be majority conservative, and a lot of these people don't really seem to be friends or foes of the situation, just random people who read the article. Others pointing out he is far, far too young to understand this is for your own good like a 16 or 17 year old might, and is sure to feel abandoned. So many parents of special needs kids popping on to INSIST the vast majority of problems can be dealt with in the family home.
This was on the right side bar of Facebook.
Kate Gosselin: Reality TV Personality Says 12-Year-Old Son Collin Has 'Special Needs'.
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I hope this is the time where she is going to be held accountable for everything that she has done to her children, Jon and the animals.
When I first read that Colin was away, I immediately thought of the comment she made about Camp Barnabas.
Parents need a break from their kids and they can just drop them off.
I can't understand why Jon is not able to see Colin at where he is at. At all.
Who ever posted that she is in her blanking glory,
was so right.
She is absolutely punch drunk happy that she has the People cover, getting paid for it, announcing that Colin has "Special Needs" and hurting Jon.
TLC better think twice about having a very special episode about Colin's "Special Needs".
Nice day's work, YOU DEMONIC, VILE BITCH!
Being Conservative Facebook comments:
Send him to my home, I'll make sure he gets the care he needs and has a loving family to come home to. Couldn't she just hire an extra nanny and make sure he was properly cared for? Unless he was harming the other kids, there is absolutely no reason to "send a child away". This woman has always been selfish and self-centers but this is pathetic, even for her! What kind of message does that send the other kids? If you are "broken" you get sent away.
My son has ADHD and PTSD. There's no way on God's green earth I'd send him away!
There are a lot of programs for kids with emotional disturbance. Sometimes a day program doesn't work and the child has to be away from home so that the family can work with a therapist as well. Believe me, that woman definitely needs her own therapist!
Special child will learn more from family then a program how I would love to slap her. I'd never send my boy away!
It could be more of a behavioral problem then actual autism or anything like that.
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Unless the behaviour is Collin setting his siblings on fire, I just don t see what could require him being shipped off. I swear this kid was discarded for his mother's convenience.
She has always treated C horrible. Some of the most horrible examples that we were witnesses to: the bear birthday gift (that totally broke my heart),his issue with constipation, keeping his cupcake from him (and all the boys) and then when she bitched him out about his comment on his sisters hair. There are to many for me to list. I am not sure why she has always had an issue with him. Just like with H being her favorite C has always been the one she dislikes/ She is a horrible mother and now should be the time that Jon steps in but I seriously doubt he will.
Kate has always had a distaste for Collin. When he wanted a dress shirt and tie she made fun of him, the gift he gave her, she talked about how difficult he is. Wait until the rest of them start giving her trouble. Mady is in for a rude awakening when she is a couple years older and so are the younger girls. Alexis must really miss him a lot. So sad for this poor child. Jacob Roloff had to wait until he was 18 to put his foot down and he still will not film. TLC should be ashamed of themselves and so should Kate Gosselin. The older girls will be wanting cars in a few months and more freedom. Let's see how that works out for her.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-son-colin-special-needs-treatment-details/
Is this true or are they just going with the Deveruex rumors? If true I know a facility that has preadolescent boarding like this . It's a nice campus in a bucolic setting.
It appears nothing's gonna stop the puppy flogging on IG (pic of Nanuq sleeping in front of front door):
kateplusmy8Yesterday. When your family goes off to school and you sleep by the door waiting for them to come home! #SoSadYetSoPrecious #Nanuq
See? Everything's all NORMAL here.
People released another snippet online today. Does anyone else see Duggar Delusion in this comment? Clearly, she thinks she's going the distance.
"Six of my kids could have babies in the same year – I could essentially have sextuplets all over again," says Gosselin, 41. "And you just know my kids will all say, 'Oh, you've handled more than this, you can babysit, you're fine.' "
We've read about dozen tweets from Gladys praising TFW, but did a single one express any compassion or good wishes for C? He might as well be a goldfish for all Gladys cares. And how about his 7 siblings, who might be confused and frightened and sad? Yeah, whatever, sorry, kids -- gotta save those 140 characters to blow smoke up the skirt of a woman who wouldn't spit on her if she was on fire.
This story isn't going away any time soon. Wait for Gladys to try to derail it with questions about puppy antics today (or, at least as soon as she reads my comment here).
GollyGee (#161), great call about the Camp Barnabas remark. I'd forgotten about that. So many of us commented at the time on how tone deaf it was -- even for her.
Why are only J and A getting therapy? Wouldn't all the kids benefit from it? Even if the girls didn't have the best relationship with him, he is still their sibling, and will be for life.
I would love for Paul Petersen to weigh in on this.
“This year I’m going to turn 16. I’m going to be learning to drive, taking the PSATs, thinking about college… so much is going on in my life,” she said. “And the last think I have time for is a toxic relationship.”
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Any sane mother's heart would be torn to pieces to read this, yet Kate allows it to be put in print WRIT LARGE, for all the world to see, as she beams with pride and satisfaction.
Sometimes I think that perhaps Kate isn't as sick and evil as I imagine, then she does this.
Mady will never realize that if it were not for the 6 younger kids, she would not have her life of privilege right now. She seems to have suckered Cara into her way of thinking also. Kate's problems have just started. More of them will lash out. I wonder if the other younger kids are worried they will also be shipped out. None of them seem to be at a 12 year old level as far as maturity goes. TLC must be very proud of themselves.
It generates buzz for when they *do* eventually air something. Or maybe they said to TFW that they weren't airing until she came clean about C. There's something about this that feels forced.
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Yup, this is carefully-crafted PR to soften to impact of Kate continuing to film without Colin. It will be followed up by a tearful Kate on her set couch, and maybe even statements from Colin's brothers and sisters.
I wouldn't be surprised if a media tour isn't imminent, and hope that Savannah Guthrie refuses to interview her and ask her about Colin. She's a mom now, and pregnant with her second child, and I'd think that it would make her nauseous to have anything to do with Kate Gosselin and her mission to alienate Jon and use her children.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 91
It's also possible she was required to send him to more intensive treatment, by social workers working with the school, a recommendation of his IEP, etc. That can't be ruled out. I suppose this might not have been voluntary on her part.
August 24, 2016 at 3:54 PM
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I wouldn't rule that out either. Kate can spin it any way she wants, which is what she does. She acted like it was her decision to take Colin out of school but really, he was let go for good and she had to do something.
I've often used the expression "kicked to the curb" about the missing friends and relatives TFW has eliminated from her kids' lives. So, really, can any of us be truly shocked that a child with challenges wouldn't make the cut in her house?
For crying out loud, she threatened the children that they would not be Gosselins anymore if they continued to enjoy their camping trip with the Palins.
And, Foxy (#172), I imagine fear of being the next to go would be a genuine concern for the other children -- well, at least the 2 boys and A.
And if Mom has done it before, it'd probably be easier now to do with one of us.
A huge red flag for a coached child is their inabilty to provide specific explanations or examples for why they feel the way they feel. This includes whether it's made up abuse or parental alienation. This is the twins to a T. Everything they have ever said about Jon is vague, general, non-specific, devoid of details that would give their stories some credibilty.
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Just like Kate who never really says anything - she just makes noises with her face hole.
Localyocul said... 98
Maybe picking up a toddler by the hair and throwing him into his crib isn't good for a developing brain? 🤔
August 24, 2016 at 4:32 PM
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I don't think that can be ruled out. I really don't. This isn't me just viscerally disliking Kate Gosselin. Reading her her own words about physically abusing him, I really think he could have brain damage from repeated head injuries.
When you throw or shake a child, the brain can rattle around in the skull and result in diffuse damage which can manifest later.
I hope that his doctors are aware of what she did to Colin and test him for closed brain injury.
Mady will never realize that if it were not for the 6 younger kids, she would not have her life of privilege right now. She seems to have suckered Cara into her way of thinking also. Kate's problems have just started. More of them will lash out. I wonder if the other younger kids are worried they will also be shipped out. None of them seem to be at a 12 year old level as far as maturity goes. TLC must be very proud of themselves.
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She also does't realize but for her father the show initially never would have made it. The hook was the dynamic between Jon and Kate, with some cute babies being the cherry on top. No one has talked to this child about what's what or instilled a sense of appreciation in her.
If it's true that he's been gone about a month then I think that explains the delays in airing the program. Maybe he was giving her a hard time about filming
Kate's description of Collin's program sounds like he is isolated from his family-at a time when he really needs their participation.
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I don't believe Kate ever mentioned seeing Colin. Just that he's gone.
I hadn't thought of this before. What the hell about seeing Colin? Does he get to come home to visit? How does Kate plan on maintaining the kids' relationship with him?
Facetime? Skype?
It's very telling that Kate mentions none of this.
I would expect her so say, "We miss him, but Skype all the time"...
I don't believe Kate ever mentioned seeing Colin. Just that he's gone.
I hadn't thought of this before. What the hell about seeing Colin? Does he get to come home to visit? How does Kate plan on maintaining the kids' relationship with him?
Facetime? Skype?
It's very telling that Kate mentions none of this.
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I found that glaringly absent too. When IS the last time she see or talked to the poor kid? Why was that not something on her radar to mention? She really is COLD.
A huge red flag for a coached child is their inabilty to provide specific explanations or examples for why they feel the way they feel. This includes whether it's made up abuse or parental alienation. This is the twins to a T. Everything they have ever said about Jon is vague, general, non-specific, devoid of details that would give their stories some credibilty.
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Just like Kate who never really says anything - she just makes noises with her face hole.
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Well good point. I have yet to hear a specific example from her about what exactly it is about Jon she takes issue with.
Jon has provided all the specific examples in the world about his issues with her. Where are hers?
Seeing that People cover shot without him just highlights her insensitivity and desire to keep the brand out there. I am disgusted.
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Bingo. Kate putting 7 kids on the cover, all smiles and sunshine, is so hurtful to Colin.
But, that's Kate. Life goes on. Oh well.
She leaves a trail of human beings in her wake.
"Six of my kids could have babies in the same year – I could essentially have sextuplets all over again," says Gosselin, 41. "
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I'm almost embarrassed for her. Does she really think, in her fantasy, all six of her sextuplets will have children at the same time?
They're not going to have kids on HER timetable. She's going to be a nightmare as a mother of adults.
OMG this b**ch. I feel so bad for Collin.
I'm also not cutting Jon any slack.
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Are the twins so cold that they don't have that need deep down? How can they just say they don't need a relationship with him ...
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They appear to be mini-Kates. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. It seems that they got all of Kate's cold genes, and none of Jon's warmth and affection.
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I don't lump Cara with Mady because I think Cara is just trying to survive the best she can.
Surviving in Kate's house means allegiance to Kate and you'd better not step out of line or else she'll unhinge her jaw and destroy you.
Collin looked withdrawn, even drugged in recent couch interviews, but is articulate and very diplomatic when he talks IMO.
They're not going to have kids on HER timetable
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Of course they're.
If it's up to Kate-(and she believes it is) the 8 will get married to who she wants. They'll have as many kids she wants. They'll work jobs she wants.
And film all of it.
Cara has always deflected comments about Jon. I don't remember her saying anything mean about him.
I don't know of that's so much her feeling it's wrong to talk about him, but more just her own shyness talking about personal stuff. Kate tried, but she couldn't spit a thing out on Today about him.
I think that's why she couldn't say anything on Today at all, she felt pressure to talk about Jon, something she really had no desire to do, that made her so anxious it overwhelmed everything else.
Nice spin, Buttkiss!! No one is saying Kate shouldn't get Colin help, all the help he needs. Heck, even if it means him being out of the home, if that's truly the right thing to do. The problem is she is exploiting it. And I'm really not convinced she made best efforts to treat his issues at home. I think it's like anything with her, it's shiny at first, then it gets fingerprints all over it but instead of cleaning it, she just throws it out.
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Great analogy. The only thing Kate has follow through for is her pursuit of fame and money. Everything else can't hold her interest.
Unless the behaviour is Collin setting his siblings on fire, I just don t see what could require him being shipped off. I
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I don't think it did require it. I do think she shipped him off.
Think about it, in home services can be intensive. She's got a filming schedule to meet. For example, an in home service I work with Wrap Around might be over at the house five days a week or more depending on the child's needs, and will stay for several hours. Parents are expected to participate. You can't just take off at a moment's notice to go to some PR event in Chicago, they'll discontinue the services after just a few absences. They have plenty of families that need help who can be around, they don't have time to work with families who aren't cooperative.
She would hate the accountability of in home services and the disruption it would cause to her filming schedule. Let's face it this was never about what's best for Collin, it's about what's best for HER.
Pure speculation on my part, but I wonder if a court ordered counselor determined that continued filming was detrimental to Colin. He seemed withdrawn but certainly not mentally challenged. If Colin couldn't be filmed then it would be in Kate's interest to ship him off to a boarding school so she could focus on continuing the show for the rest of them.
I'm convinced while Colin needed help learning how to function effectively with other people, he did not need to be sent away. My wife is a counselor at the alternative education school in our district. I've seen some of the kids that come through the system and only the ones who have dangerous behavioral issues where they would hurt someone or themselves are referred to inpatient facilities. As long as the family is supportive of the additional (but usually not obtrusive) support the child needs it is much better for them to remain integrated with their classmates and siblings. Only if it was determined the family could not or would not provide the necessary support (parents on drugs, etc.) would a child be referred to out-of-home placement and even then they are generally placed with a grandparent or and aunt/uncle.
It is particularly odd he was gone during the summer months when the photo shoot was taken. I think Kate simply got rid of him so they could plan their lives around TLC filming while the kids weren't in school.
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Well said. It defies what we all know of being a parent and loving your children more than life itself.
Chef (#184), SO glad to see you posting! I was thinking of you yesterday, and hoping you might check in. A lot of people seem to be compelled to comment, with this new and awful development.
Admin (#180), remember TFW's motherly wisdom, "No news is good news?" That's how she explained not staying in contact with her TODDLERS when she was traveling hither, thither and yon. Why in the world would she need to keep up with a dirty, icky pubescent boy? She can just pretend he's still down in the man cave, or out tending the chickens, or otherwise "dispersed." She was probably happiest when he was out of her line of vision anyway.
Excuse me for being unnecessarily harsh, but I do not have the energy to censor myself right now. The thought of TFW grinning like a donkey on a magazine cover in the middle of her family's upheaval makes me sick.
As long as the family is supportive of the additional (but usually not obtrusive) support the child needs it is much better for them to remain integrated with their classmates and siblings.
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That is the prevailing view in the mental health community, that if at all possible, a child should be kept in the home. There are exceptions and some kids do thrive in out of home placements, but it adds that extra level of unknown and rejection that seem to just pile onto the problems. The vast majority of services for high-functioning children are home-based.
I've seen homicidal kids, cutting kids, kids with other serious issues left in the home, as long as there is proper support there. A one-on-one nanny/therapist as someone suggested is a good place to start and wouldn't be any more expensive than a treatment program.
There's something else going on there, and I agree filming plays some kind of role in this.
The 41-year-old says her sons Aaden and Joel are in therapy together, while Collin has special needs, and is living away from home as part of a program expected to help his “life skills.” With Jon basically out of the picture completely, Kate has had to deal with Collin’s problems alone, and admits she’s noticed how it’s affected her seven other kids. “[They] realize that so much of my time and attention focus had to be devoted to Collin and trying to get him the help he needs,” she explains.
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Whoa, what? Jon is basically out of the picture? WTH?
Kate is the one who said that Jon shouldn't have any input into raising her kids because she has the majority of custody time, and now she's bitching because she's doing it alone?
That's exactly what she asked for, and Jon DOES see his kids, at least the ones who show up.
But Kate gets to peddle this bullshit because Jon has been passive.
I wouldn't care if I got my ass thrown in jail. The compound gate isn't the Berlin wall with trained snipers. It's a gate and a fence. Climb over it.
My ex does this with our daughter. Goes on vacation with his new family, doesn't include her, takes Christmas card photos without her.
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This reminds me of something I channel surfed to some time ago. Bruce Jenner's kid Brody, calling out the Kardashians for basically leaving him out of anything they ever did with Bruce and their new family. Naturally he built up a lot of resentment for their failure to include him in the family, and his relationship with Kris is tense. Kids pay attention to this stuff, and it hurts them to the core. Even adult kids.
She's going to have a rude awakening when she discovers most friends, boyfriends, professors, coaches, are not going to put up with this kind of manipulation. Kate has set her up for severe social struggles by allowing this attitude and behavior.
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It's been blatantly obvious since she was 5, that Mady is in the greatest need of intervention. I've always seen her as having special needs and needing to be in therapy to learn life skills.
She is also not being helped by learning from her mother.
Dwindle, are you still reading here? I think some of us could use some cyber hand holding about now.
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