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Her epiphany: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/why-i-decided-to-stop-writing-about-my-children/
And here's the September 2016 People article feature Kate and kids, sans Collin.
Saturday, August 20, 2016
"I don’t want to mar my children’s glory and subvert their beginnings for my so-called art" and Kate and kids in People magazine, minus Collin
Popular "Mommy blogger" and writer Elizabeth Bastos has packed up shop after realizing (with the help of one concerned grandfather) her posts were intruding on her children's right to privacy.
Her epiphany: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/why-i-decided-to-stop-writing-about-my-children/
And here's the September 2016 People article feature Kate and kids, sans Collin.
Her epiphany: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/why-i-decided-to-stop-writing-about-my-children/
And here's the September 2016 People article feature Kate and kids, sans Collin.
2057 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 2057 Newer› Newest»"And you just know my kids will all say, 'Oh, you've handled more than this, you can babysit, you're fine.' "
Lol, it's pretty clear she still thinks she's awesome.
I do think despite all her apparent awesomeness that she's finally putting the nail in her show coffin, based on mostly apathetic and annoyed, plus far fewer, responses to her.
To deflect from the negative comments that the People story got, TFW posted a picture of Nanuk sleeping by the front door with toys scattered around and the caption "Yesterday. When your family goes off to school and you sleep by the door waiting for them to come home! #sosadyetsoprecious #nanuk
Comments:
Saw the news about Collin @kateplusmy8. I have a son on the autism spectrum and wondered if that could be what is going on. You have a chance to educate others because of your celebrity status. Hopefully he will be able to go to a program where he can go for the day then be home with the family in the near future. Separating our kids from the rest of the world is not the answer. Yet it is difficult but he is your child.
Congratulations!! I noticed a couple of days ago you had about 77K followers, you now have almost 79K. It will be over 100K by the time Oct comes around.
Me again:
Yeah, if she continues to buy them...she's now at 79.5K. You'd think that with that many followers more of them would "like" her post and comment on them. I don't think she's ever even had 100 comments.
Twitter Comments:
So sad this is what she needs to get back in news. Just when we thought we'd never have to hear about her again.
She should focus on her son and learn to co-parent with Jon.
Really? Are we in the 50-60s when we institutionalized kids to hide them? Good parents teach #lifeskills at home w school help.
@kateplusmy8 is in special need of a lobotomy, to return the favor she's given viewers for so long. Sorry Collin, your mom sucks.
IG created soley to distract from abandoning child #TLC
...and dogs acquired for that. When she realizes how this venture failed, dogs are outta there
To allow a child to trash their father is truly disgusting. Collin's issue should be a private matter. Shame on People.
What can happen to a child like Mady is they will grow up and attempt relationships, romantic relationships and platonic ones, and will start to see a lot of failures in those relationships. After their 100th boyfriend calls off their second or third engagement and they're 35, they might start to wonder maybe it's me, not them. Once they get to that point, they're going to start cycling back figuring out where things went wrong. And inevitably, that's going to go back to Kate eventually.
Kate is going to have to answer to at least some of these kids eventually, it's inevitable.
Boy, won't TFW be surprised when at least one of her kids says, "I'd sooner leave my baby with a rabid coyote than with you," and hands her a copy of her journal.
I agree - this is what was best for Kate. In my experience with my son, changing behaviour takes a long time. It doesn't happen overnight. In the day to day, you sometimes think nothing is working - but you need to look at the big picture as see how far you've come.
My son's doctor said that sometimes you may need to repeat something 1000 times, and it's on the 1001st time that it may resonate with the child.
That's what parenting is all about. I also take offence to her saying she's "making an investment" in his future. Just because something is expensive, doesn't mean it's what's right. I just thought that was a shitty thing to say. I'm so sure that's how the child is looking at it.
The dogs were totally a replacement for their brother - how sick is that?
I'm not sure I buy TFW's comment that it's hard for the other kids because she devotes so much time and attention to C. Sounds like a convenient way to excuse away the drastic step of removing him from the home. Putting the needs of the other 7 ahead of what was best for one.
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Does Kate even realize that she is in essence, blaming the other 7 kids for having to send Colin away? This is the subtext. Once again, "there are too many and I can't handle it" makes the kids feel culpable for something they have no control over.
Will Colin resent his siblings because Mommy said she couldn't spare the needed time and energy because she's got 7 other kids? Will the 7 feel guilty that their needs caused Colin to be sent away?
Kate never thinks before she makes noises with her face hole.
Localyocul said... 166
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-son-colin-special-needs-treatment-details/
Is this true or are they just going with the Deveruex rumors? If true I know a facility that has preadolescent boarding like this . It's a nice campus in a bucolic setting.
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If that is true, why act like Colin is gone from their lives when he's only under 2 hours away? Chrissakes, Kate goes farther to get her lid done on a monthly basis!
Not mentioning that the kids get to see and speak with Colin is very telling. I'd move heaven and earth to keep contact.
I wonder how long poor Colin has to go without seeing his family!
My God, if Jon isn't on the first train, plane or automobile to go and see him, he needs his ass kicked.
I see a self-serving pity promotional tour on the horizon along the lines of she had to devote so much time to Collin she developed shingles. I've forgotten exactly when she said she had shingles, but I'm wondering if it happened around the time she was faced with breaking up the 6-pack.
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Whoa, prepare for another whirlwind day. CNN.com just listed this as one of their top stories, only they're not even mentioning the Collin situation. They're leading with the twins and Jon's response. Yikes. Congratulations Kate, your parental alienation made CNN. Mission accomplished.
No comments allowed on the CNN article. They seem to only allow comments on a select few articles these days.
I feel bad for the twins as well.
Who knows what horribleness Kate is feeding to her kids about Jon. The girls are young and impressible and Jon isn't there to defend/protect himself.
Jon also isn't there to prove to his kids that-"What mom say's about me isn't true" And I bet this is confusing the twins and confirming what Mama is saying.
Poor kids.
No one has talked to this child about what's what or instilled a sense of appreciation in her.
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I keep envisioning Mady with a thought bubble above her head, "1 down, 5 more to go". I wonder if she feels a twinge of guilt for repeatedly saying how much she doesn't like the tups, and that they ruined her life.
Nicky said... 4
. . . That's what parenting is all about. I also take offence to her saying she's "making an investment" in his future. . . .
I think it's more like HE's making an investment in his future, as I have no doubt she's not putting one thin dime of her own into paying for his "problems."
MikeB said... 192
Pure speculation on my part, but I wonder if a court ordered counselor determined that continued filming was detrimental to Colin. He seemed withdrawn but certainly not mentally challenged. If Colin couldn't be filmed then it would be in Kate's interest to ship him off to a boarding school so she could focus on continuing the show for the rest of them.
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Any counselor who didn't recommend that Colin not be filmed should have their license revoked.
Primum non nocere
First, do no harm.
My wife is a counselor at the alternative education school in our district. I've seen some of the kids that come through the system and only the ones who have dangerous behavioral issues where they would hurt someone or themselves are referred to inpatient facilities. As long as the family is supportive of the additional (but usually not obtrusive) support the child needs it is much better for them to remain integrated with their classmates and siblings. Only if it was determined the family could not or would not provide the necessary support (parents on drugs, etc.) would a child be referred to out-of-home placement and even then they are generally placed with a grandparent or and aunt/uncle.
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Thanks for your insight. What I also find telling is that Kate spoke about Colin's absence without mention of when he'll return.
How long are children kept inpatient?
I came away thinking Colin is gone indefinitely.
It is particularly odd he was gone during the summer months when the photo shoot was taken. I think Kate simply got rid of him so they could plan their lives around TLC filming while the kids weren't in school.
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Me too. Unless Colin had some sort of psychotic break, he's been functioning on the same level for quite some time now. Why not arrange inpatient treatment when the kids go back to school so he could be with his brothers and sisters during their summer break?
What the hell was so urgent that he had to go during summer vacation?
Tucker's mom...said 6
Not mentioning that the kids get to see and speak with Colin is very telling. I'd move heaven and earth to keep contact.
I wonder how long poor Colin has to go without seeing his family!
My God, if Jon isn't on the first train, plane or automobile to go and see him, he needs his ass kicked.
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Totally agree. The is nothing stopping him from going and seeing Colin!!!
Is it possible that she has threatened Jon in some way to not see him or she would do something legally? She knows that TLC will provide her free legal eagles.
I hope when Colin turns 18, that he gets a good lawyer, sues his mother and TLC for millions. TLC filming him and being forced to film, his mother abusing him all these years and shipping him off away from his home and siblings.
TLC might as well start a TLC Gosselin Super Fund.
Like 3 Mile Island.
MikeB 192, completely agree.
I do think perhaps his issues may be more extreme than many see on just an edited tv show, and something people have to consider. I once had an elementary student who came across with very much the same demeanor and intelligence on the surface but who was eventually, and necessarily, placed in a residential facilty due to underlying behaviors (anyone who did not know him as well as certain school employees and his family was shocked, not knowing the behind the scenes behaviors).
In any case, this should not have been brought light on a People magazine cover. How unbelievably shameful.
I would add that with his mother's history of behaviors and priorities, interference with filming is likely playing a strong role. What she can't see is that people aren't buying her schtick anymore. That seems pretty evident.
Excuse me for being unnecessarily harsh, but I do not have the energy to censor myself right now. The thought of TFW grinning like a donkey on a magazine cover in the middle of her family's upheaval makes me sick.
August 25, 2016 at 6:54 AM
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Like Kate cares about optics! She needed handlers to tell her that supping at Nobu in NYC wouldn't play well after she was boo-hooing on the Today show.
Who was it that said never let a good crisis go to waste? Well, Kate never lets a family disaster go without using it to her advantage.
I can't imagine a more tragic event than having to send your child away, save the death of said child. Any normal mother would circle the wagons and protect her family from public intrusion, but not Kate. This is fodder! Mady hates Jon! Colin has special needs!
She's a fucking Carnival Barker.
I think I'll pull a Trump and start calling her Carnie Kate.
MikeB (#192), your comment gave me a lot to think about. C's issues would likely be exacerbated by the presence of a houseful of strangers -- no, not crew daddies, strangers -- filming on a regular basis, loaded down with cameras and lights and sound equipment. Those people were neither friends nor playmates, they were there to WORK, and they were in the sacred space of a family home.
Remember C's desire for order? I can just picture that time he tried to load things into his little toy car, trying to get them the right way so they'd all fit. With the hustle and bustle of people and equipment, and endless retakes and taking direction, I bet filming days are nothing but chaos, which might have been particularly damaging to C's psyche.
So maybe some professional finally laid it on the line and said to TFW, look, this is harming your son. A great mom would think, well, that means we need to stop. But TFW would think, well, that means he needs to go.
librarylady said... 200
"And you just know my kids will all say, 'Oh, you've handled more than this, you can babysit, you're fine.' "
Lol, it's pretty clear she still thinks she's awesome.
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It's also clear she's a fricking liar! Kate NEVER handled 8 kids alone. Not for any period of time. She has had volunteers galore, as well as family and friends (before they were kicked to the curb), paid help and of course, Jon, especially when she was gone half the time with Steve.
Speaking of leaving a child out of a picture, when our kids were little, we went to a park with an overlook that was very high. I was about to get a picture and one of the kids got to close to the edge and it scared my husband so bad that he refused to allow him in the picture.
I was even crying and begging for him to be included.
When I look at that picture, today, it just kills me that the child is not in the picture with the siblings.
Strange that CNN won't allow comments on the story.
Could it be that they might be SCATHING?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 3
Boy, won't TFW be surprised when at least one of her kids says, "I'd sooner leave my baby with a rabid coyote than with you," and hands her a copy of her journal.
August 25, 2016 at 7:15 AM
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Seriously, Grandma used to pick me up by my hair and thrash me, so have fun visiting with her, kiddo!
Say hello to "The Spanker"!!!!!
Robert is back on twitter promoting the book.Question?Is this all Robert can do?I don't think promoting the book on twitter is going to get him anywhere.I wish it did but if thats all he can do then whats the point?
That's what parenting is all about. I also take offence to her saying she's "making an investment" in his future. Just because something is expensive, doesn't mean it's what's right. I just thought that was a shitty thing to say. I'm so sure that's how the child is looking at it.
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Typical Kate. Everything is in terms of how much money it costs her. It cheeses her royally to have to spend on anything but herself.
This woman pampers herself like a Babylonian princess, but boy oh boy, you will hear about it when she has to spend money on caring for her kids.
CNN article on Mady, etc.
Jon Gosselin upset that his twins say he doesn't know them
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/25/entertainment/jon-gosselin-mady-cara/index.html
People has another article, mentioning Jon's reaction to their cover page and articles, written by Kate Coyne, of course. Seems like she's a tad upset that Jon spoke to ET and not People.
"Jon Gosselin has responded to his ex-wife Kate's tell-all PEOPLE interview.
Hours after the mother of eight's cover story was revealed on Wednesday, which details the couple's past marriage and gives updates on the children, Jon, 39, told Entertainment Tonight: "I'm very upset."
The PEOPLE interview also reveals that Collin – one of the parents' sextuplets – is enrolled in a program away from home to help him with his needs, and includes an exclusive interview with 15-year-old twins Cara and Mady, the latter of whom says of their father, "He doesn't even know us."
"I love my children very much. I've always been there for them and I always will be. It's shocking," Jon, who never responded to multiple requests for comment from PEOPLE, told ET. In early August, he revealed that he isn't on speaking terms with either of his daughters."
It goes on the mention Kate's reaction to what Mady said about her father:
"Although Kate, 41, admits that the teens "do struggle ... it's not going to be an easy road – anyone who grows up with a parent who is often absent is going to have issues to deal with," she applauds her eldest daughters' maturity.
She adds of Mady: "She doesn't want to join his game. At that age, to be able to locate the high road and stay on it, that just blows me away."
So, according to Kate, Mady dissing Jon in a national magazine is "staying on the high road"?
I have no words...
My son is special needs....at 28 he cannot bathe himself, brush his own teeth or shave himself....he cannot make a meal or take care of his needs in most ways. I would not in a million years send him anywhere...it has never even crossed my mind and I have three other healthy children...I will take care of him until the day I die.....I'm crying as I write this....I would be destroyed and a broken person if I was forced to send him anywhere.....she is a heartless piece of garbage ....when you send a child away like that they will never come back the same....He's very aware of what's going on which is sickening....she's smiling on a magazine cover!!! I have no words but to say it's just another one that has been alienated because they didn't fit her lifestyle
Many of the regulars here have spoken of the damage being done to the Gosselin children. We have shared and cared.
Sadly, this recent development is probably just the beginning of headlines that will reveal fractures in the Kate plus Eight franchise.
She will collect more paychecks from children in crisis. Sickening.
Jamesvader1194 said... 24
Robert is back on twitter promoting the book.Question?Is this all Robert can do?I don't think promoting the book on twitter is going to get him anywhere.I wish it did but if thats all he can do then whats the point?
August 25, 2016 at 7:54 AM
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I think it's his way of saying, "See? I told the truth and exposed Kate Gosselin for who she really is, and this (People cover) is exactly why."
Forgot the link in my previous comment:
http://www.people.com/article/jon-gosselin-responds-kate-cara-mady-tell-all?
she says "investment " because her whole life is described in terms of money
"Join his game"? WTF is that supposed to mean? It's so totally clear that Kate put the words in Mady's mouth. Thank God Cara has more sense than to allow herself to be used for Mommy's "game."
She adds of Mady: "She doesn't want to join his game. At that age, to be able to locate the high road and stay on it, that just blows me away."
So, according to Kate, Mady dissing Jon in a national magazine is "staying on the high road"?
I have no words...
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No words.
Let's assume, for shits and giggles, that Jon really does blow off seeing his kids, doesn't take any interest in what they do and has generally abdicated his role as father.
Why on earth would any mother sell this story to the tabloids?
Is Kate the pot or the kettle? The irony of saying that Jon plays games is mind boggling.
Kathy said... 28
My son is special needs....at 28 he cannot bathe himself, brush his own teeth or shave himself....he cannot make a meal or take care of his needs in most ways. I would not in a million years send him anywhere...it has never even crossed my mind and I have three other healthy children...I will take care of him until the day I die.....I'm crying as I write this....I would be destroyed and a broken person if I was forced to send him anywhere.....she is a heartless piece of garbage ....when you send a child away like that they will never come back the same....He's very aware of what's going on which is sickening....she's smiling on a magazine cover!!! I have no words but to say it's just another one that has been alienated because they didn't fit her lifestyle
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God bless you. I was thinking of my brother in law this morning. He died a few years ago in his 50s. He had the mental capacity of a toddler. He could walk with help and he smiled but did not talk. His mother took care of him in her home until she developed dementia in her 70s. She bathed him, dressed him, fed him, took him places, toileted him and loved him until her mind got in the way. Then she went to a Devereux Group home near by until he passed away. And when he was small, she was under a lot of pressure to "send him away" and forget about him. In fact she was on the board that oversaw a lot of reforms in the IDD community, especially after the expose at Pennhurst.
I just hope for Collin's sake that TLC and this witch doesn't put this on TV.
Kathy said... 28
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Bless you for rolling up your sleeves and caring for your son no matter what. I'm sure he is a great joy in your life.
Again, I'm reading mere paragraphs from posters here, whom I do not know, and the love, caring and emotions LEAP off my screen.
Kate, in 10 years, has never conveyed an iota of the passion that I read from mothers and fathers here.
I have no words but to say it's just another one that has been alienated because they didn't fit her lifestyle
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We have been saying for YEARS that if and when one of Kate's kids didn't know "how to help" her, they'd join the others at the curb.
What Maddy supposedly said...Sounds just like Kate.
And does Kate think that the kids won't turn on her on day?
If she doesn't she has another thing coming.
I was born very sick and my mother quit her job of 18yrs to take care of me.
Kate is horrible.
anyone who grows up with a parent who is often absent is going to have issues to deal with,"
I can see TFW blaming Jon being at work on Saturday nights as a dj as blowing off his time with the kids.
She'll say, oh, see...your dad doesn't even *want* to spend time with you. See how he doesn't make time for you?
When in reality it's HER who is in and out of their lives because she chooses to be.
I wonder if she's jealous that she's stuck staying at home with the kids and isn't getting the opportunity to jet off to Australia or wherever every other week. And Jon gets to get out of the house to go to work.
chefsummer #Leh said... 36
I just hope for Collin's sake that TLC and this witch doesn't put this on TV.
August 25, 2016 at 8:25 AM
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Great to see you, btw!
I miss Aunti!! If you're reading, please check in if possible!
I'm usually passive when it comes to companies who keep Kate on tv. I don't write, or boycott, or threaten to boycott.
That might change now. This is so far beyond the pale that it's abuse. It's downright abuse for Kate to profit from her family's dysfunction, pain and tragedy.
"Smile, kiddos, or you just might have to pack your bags and go, too"
Kathy - I applaud you, as that is the ultimate commitment of any parent. I can feel your love for your son through your post.
I think why this bothers so many of us, is that we are thinking of our own children, and the absolute horror we would feel to send our own child away. As someone above stated, this would be the worst thing beyond the death of a child.
And my son has had some whoppers of meltdowns, tantrums - you name it. Both in public and at home. But I could never imagine looking that kid in the eye, and saying you need to be sent away. Can you imagine how damaging that would be? My god - I can't even speak it out loud.
I know some do not like the language - and this is for both Kate and Jon, but those fucking famewhores (yes, Jon is a famewhore as well IMO. He might not be on TV, but he uses his infamy to his advantage), need to grow up and deal with this at least like semi-adults. We have one jackass grinning in the spotlight and doing a happy dance about making memories, while the other sits there and says I'm so upset, and this is shocking.
And they BOTH can't see past their hate for one another to help their kids.
SLAPPED WITH A SPOON @SLUNG_N_MY_CRIB 13h13 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @people The only way I would pick up this issue of People with u n it is if I REALLY needed something to wipe my ass with.
Comment of the day!
Why am I not surprised about Colin? That child has been in the way of filming. That's the bottom line. For someone who has the money to deal with his issues, why not do it at home? Oh, that's right...he is a disruptor and needed to disappear. No matter how she spins it, that was the bottom line. And to make it appear that she, alone, has been dealing with him? Really? That's been her choice to not involve Jon.
And Mady? What I can say? Terrible. The alienation is complete. You cannot tell me that the others have not been infected with the hate. Mady has proven, by her malice, that she is not a nice person, to say what she said publicly. Shame on her and shame on her mother.
That "People" article signals that she will reappear on TLC soon.
And Mady stated that she will be driving...no surprise there. Stand by for a new car and filming. Disgusting.
I hate to say it, but M is probably saying what Mom wants so she can get a car in October.
Not trying to be unkind towards the child, as she has been put on display for more than a decade without her consent, and has probably suffered
greatly because of it.
Loyalty is currency in that house -- always has been, always will be. Until some of them leave the house and never look back.
I'm not on Facebook, but has anyone posted on A Minor Consideration about this? As I said earlier, I would love to know what Paul Petersen thinks about this article.
FFS, on the cover of Time? I know this magazine has sunk fathoms since its 70s heyday, but really? TLC must have paid for it.
Time Inc. @TimeInc 3m3 minutes ago
On the cover of @people this week: 10 years after Kate Plus 8, the Gosselins tell all: http://trib.al/PDs92mq
Oh, whew. She's not on the cover of Time, they just inexplicably linked the People article in a tweet. Huh?
http://www.people.com/article/jon-gosselin-responds-kate-cara-mady-tell-all
Here Kate Coyne is praising Mady for her maturity and not "playing games" like Jon.
Jon simply said the twins don't see or speak to him, and THAT's what Mady is basing her hate on? If she never speaks to him, and her mother never speaks to him, how on God's green earth is Jon to know that this would make her flip out?
Coyne is a world-class idiot to think that a 15-year old saying she's too busy to deal with her dad is a mature young lady. It's the polar opposite, you numbskull. Maturity would be sitting down with Jon and having a discussion, not slamming your father in the tabloids.
Kate is a monster for fomenting such vitriol in her children.
I know some do not like the language - and this is for both Kate and Jon, but those fucking famewhores (yes, Jon is a famewhore as well IMO. He might not be on TV, but he uses his infamy to his advantage), need to grow up and deal with this at least like semi-adults.
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I don't generally drop the f-bomb here, but I can't help but using it to attempt to express my generous outrage and disgust with Kate.
And to make it appear that she, alone, has been dealing with him? Really? That's been her choice to not involve Jon.
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Kate would rather send her own son away than hand him over to Jon.
I'd be shocked it Jon was aware of what was going on with Colin, and that's ultimately his own fault, really.
Here Kate Coyne is praising Mady for her maturity and not "playing games" like Jon.
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That wasn't Kate Coyne that said that. Kate Coyne was the author of the article.
It was her own mother who praised Mady for her "maturity" in not wanting to be part of Jon's "game".
Cnn used to allow comments but there could be thousands on a post and it would be an absolute circus. I don't think they were moderated. No matter what the story the comments would always turn political. I've noticed some time ago they shut down comments on most articles. They probably don't have the budget to moderate, it would be a full time job. I'm not sure why now and again they will open up comments on a post, I can't figure out the pattern. But I've always enjoyed reading the comments, they were usually hilarious.
DWINDLE and I "communicate in other ways" -- thanks Milo for that phrase.
She recently moved into a very rural area. She and Hunny Bunny have renovated an old farm house and are living a sweet bucolic life. She only has her phone for internet and can't post here.
She keeps up with the Gosselin news and thinks about all of you frequently. I am sure she can see you if you wave to her!
She has expressed her feelings on FB. This is the comment that she asked me to share with you.
"Sigh. By her own admission she has been beating him since infancy. He was barely toddling when she " lifted him by his hair, threw him into his crib, and whipped him very hard" her own words. His special needs are that " he is defiant of my authority " her words. As he got older he began fighting back, like the time she locked him out in the snow at night with no coat. There is history here. We won't get into her denial and control of food."
Hello from Dwindle.
Mady has proven, by her malice, that she is not a nice person, to say what she said publicly. Shame on her and shame on her mother.
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Coyne excuses Mady's vitriolic outburst as her being upset that Jon went public with the fact she doesn't see or speak to him.
(she wasn't "ready" for that, whatever that means)
I don't get why that's so outrageous, and think it's justification for Mady to go all scorched earth and close Jon out of her life completely.
Think about it. It solves the difficult problem of balancing her love for her father, and maintaining a real father-daughter relationship with him, while trying not to upset Kate.
Kate does not make it easy for any of her kids to express love for Jon. Some kids will choose Jon despite their mother, and some will eschew him because of her.
(and I'm sure each one of them gets their 30 pieces of silver for doing so)
Mady's life has been thrust into the public eye by her mother for a decade, but Jon mentioning that she hasn't seen him in years makes her go nuclear? People have labeled her a "bitch" since she was 6-years old due to the fact that her parents, then exclusively Kate, repeatedly allows her surly nature and general mean-spiritedness to be showcases on tv, and THIS is cause to render cloth?
Not buying it.
I don't know the situation with her son but why did it get to this extreme? was this the only solution...to send him packing? also I agree that the word "investment" is a pretty effed up word to to describe your sons banishment...
Tucker's Mom (#51), this is nothing short of a fantasy situation for TFW. She gets to play victim, she gets her attention-suck of a son out of the house, she gets her daughters to publicly bash their dad, she gets her botoxed face on a magazine cover, and she collects a paycheck.
And, yes, I can imagine her having withheld many of the details from the boy's father, and then cunningly responding, "Well, if you were in his life, you would know about all this."
Say it out loud again, TFW: "I AM a horrible mother."
As he got older he began fighting back, like the time she locked him out in the snow at night with no coat. There is history here. We won't get into her denial and control of food."
Hello from Dwindle.
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Hi Dwindle! Wishing you all the best!
Another thing we've talked about is the boys being in peril as they grow older because they will get bigger and stronger than Kate, and she will not be able to control them.
Dmasy (#54), thank you so much for sharing about Dwindle. I'm glad to know she's happy and enjoying a more low-tech life. Or is is a less high-tech life?
So great to see so many posters who haven't been around for a while. But of course I wish we were reuniting under happier circumstances.
Funny, on Tuesday when Jessa Duggar announced her pregnancy, I made some snarky comment about all the Duggar magazine covers ahead, while poor TFW only has puppies. Little did I know what was ahead. And of course now the puppies make sense: Carny Kate (thanks, Tucker's) was setting up a diversion. No missing child to see here, folks, but step right up to see these precious pups!
https://instagram.com/p/BJh7rlaDaUL/
Maybe the dog is waiting for Collin to come home
Which child did she journal about where she prayed to God to be able to live him more? Was it Collin?
I would hope that Colin, who no longer is in her clutches, gets visits from Jon. If he's still not seeing him, then something else has been going on.
I also have to say I smell a link ( bribe) between getting those puppies and Colin being sent away.
Greetings to Dwindle and best of luck in your new life. You are missed here! Thanks, Dmasy.
Say it out loud again, TFW: "I AM a horrible mother."
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Ha, let's see how TLC's PR campaign plays now that everyone knows Kate has sent her son away with no mention of return.
If I was writing the People piece, I would press to have Kate comment on bringing Colin back into the fold, so readers don't get the impression that he's kicked to the curb for good.
Oh, wait...
Maybe the dog is waiting for Collin to come home
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And those chickens ain't gonna feed themselves!
Coyne excuses Mady's vitriolic outburst as her being upset that Jon went public with the fact she doesn't see or speak to him.
(she wasn't "ready" for that, whatever that means)
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That's classic manipulative behavior she could have only learned from an adult. She is allowed to be cruel, mean, and nasty to her father and refuse to follow court orders, but he can't do anything in return including just stating the facts that he doesn't see her and that it's upsetting.
Basically she wants to blackmail him into not being able to have any response, whatsoever, to her emotionally abusive treatment of him. Once he does, as anyone would, she turns the tables on him and blames it on him for responding. That is a high level of manipulation a young child just isn't capable of without being taught.
There are so many scenarios I can think of regarding Collin, none of them too pleasant. I truly hope this school/facility is a better place for him, although I'm sure he is very lonely and missing his brothers.Even missing Kate. Was the move to a separate bedroom a way to begin his isolation?
she is a very sick and calculating woman...she will systematically ruin and alienate anyone who gets in her way...even her own children...now we know she will not stop at grandparents... relatives...friends...no now its her kids...how in gods name does she sleep at night
if kate has physical custody, she can make all decisions without Jon's input. It is also very possible that he could be denied entry to wherever Collin is. she has probably convinced all professionals involved that having contact with his father would hurt him more. She is the worse parent possible.
Waving at Dwindle! We miss you!
It makes my blood boil to think of how Kate described their FUN! photo shoot for the People cover, when the content of the article was about sending her special needs child away. Any other parent would find the whole thing heart-wrenching, but to Kate it's FUN! I guess that shows how much feeling she really has for Collin and his sad plight.
I hope Collin never knows that, after his mother abused him and forced him to work his whole life to support her--and then sent him away--her first thought was to find a way to profit from his banishment. And then referred to it as FUN!
I read Jon's comments again and I don't think he made it seem like the twins were being kept from him, as Mady stated. In fact he specifically cited friends and other teen things as the reason the twins' visits waned. We had even said at the time, it might be better not to take a teen away from friends for a mandatory visit or risk making them resent it.
I wonder if Mady has even actually read his comments, or was just told what he said through Kate's spin. He was very factual and even-handed with his comments and has said over and over how much he loves them. And let's not forget the topic of Jon was brought up to the twins ages ago on the Today show. If they want to play that game, they started it. They could have said that's off limits if they really want to play the game of it's not appropriate to discuss. You can't have it both ways, Jon can't talk about it but you can. But as we all seem to agree, not that ANY of this mess is their fault. They're just manipulated kids.
That is a high level of manipulation a young child just isn't capable of without being taught.
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Without a doubt, Mady is punishing Jon and she learned that from Kate. To without love and affection is one of the worst things you can do to someone who loves you.
It's particularly cruel and manipulative.
Layla (70) said, "I hope Collin never knows that, after his mother abused him and forced him to work his whole life to support her--and then sent him away--her first thought was to find a way to profit from his banishment. And then referred to it as FUN!"
Those words are a concise and accurate summary of Collin's life.
Heartbreaking.
I have never seen such bigger hypocrites then Kate's fanbase.Its ok for Kate to sell Collin's privacy to magazines but its wrong for Jon to speak out MsGoody2Shoes21
@msgoody2shoes21
@GeeWhiz__ Jon is just going to give his "usual interviews" to the tabloids instead of repairing his personal relationship w/ his children.
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@msgoody2shoes21 Yep, proving he doesn't want to repair their relationship he wants $$$ for an interview. Biggest LOSER ever! 😡👎💩
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Can you imagine the tension and turmoil in the household? The kids see something is wrong w/ Collin or he's acting out. Out of the house w/ him. Is Alexis thinking she's next, afraid to death of stepping out of line and bothering "mommy". What about the other youngest kids? They must be living in fear, that if we don't go along w/ mom's plans, we'll be shipped off next. The twins, no so worried about them, especially Mady. She's very disrespectful, just like her mother. How do they spin all the questions they must get at school about the missing brother. Kate is a very mentally ill woman.
Layla said... 70
Waving at Dwindle! We miss you!
It makes my blood boil to think of how Kate described their FUN! photo shoot for the People cover, when the content of the article was about sending her special needs child away. Any other parent would find the whole thing heart-wrenching, but to Kate it's FUN! I guess that shows how much feeling she really has for Collin and his sad plight.
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Don't forget after that FUN "family" shoot, poor Kite had to have her footsies wubbed by her kids, because life is so tought FOR HER. Meanwhile, what no one knew, is that Colin was sleeping in a bed in an inpatient facility, without his sibling, his mother and his father.
That makes me cry.
We had even said at the time, it might be better not to take a teen away from friends for a mandatory visit or risk making them resent it.
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Mady is a typical coward manipulator who will take a minor infraction and turn it into a federal case to justify her actions.
What Jon did might not be advised. Maybe he should refuse to say ANYTHING about the twins, but he didn't. He said the twins don't see him and that's unforgivable in Mady's book.
People like her lie in wait for someone to make a little mistake so they can unleash whatever it is they've already decided to do.
Lookout future boyfriends.
Now how screwed up is Milo?? This comment on instagram says it all:
"Oh geez...start my morning w/tears! So precious!! But its what loyal #Furbabies do! Now you need to get down there on the floor and bond w/her....remember, you are #DogWhisperer there. Let her know you understand....& talk it over. Next...playtime/snacktime w/mom!! �� @kateplusmy8"
Kate can't even do that with a human being - Milo really thinks she can do that with a dog? So does Milo think Kate can replace the years of not bonding with her kids, with bonding with the dogs? Didn't Kate just say she wished she got on the floor and played with her kids?
Milo is either the ultimate and masterful troll, or just plain dumb. I'm thinking dumb...
But as we all seem to agree, not that ANY of this mess is their fault. They're just manipulated kids.
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Yes and no. I think Mady was born with the same tendencies as Kate, and Kate exploits those tendencies for her benefit.
I think Mady will grow up-is growing up-to be just like Kate and think her shit doesn't stink. She will have no introspection or regrets because she's never wrong. There's will always be justifications for treating people like dirt.
And why do her "fans" never talk about the $$$'s Kate gets from doing an interview? That's always their comeback - Jon is doing it for the money. Who did they think got paid for the photos in People?
To without love and affection is one of the worst things you can do to someone who loves you.
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That should read, To WITHHOLD
Tucker's Mom (76)
You're right, that FUN photo shoot was a "family" photo shoot. Does that mean that she no longer considers Collin a member of the family? It sure looks that way.
What about the other youngest kids? They must be living in fear, that if we don't go along w/ mom's plans, we'll be shipped off next.
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Explains jumping in to rub Kate's feet with smiles on.
More ammo for kids to bully the tups. "So, when's your mom going to send YOU away?". I don't care how exclusive and expensive their school is. Kids are kids are kids.
jamezvader1194 said... 74
I have never seen such bigger hypocrites then Kate's fanbase.Its ok for Kate to sell Collin's privacy to magazines but its wrong for Jon to speak out MsGoody2Shoes21
@msgoody2shoes21
@GeeWhiz__ Jon is just going to give his "usual interviews" to the tabloids instead of repairing his personal relationship w/ his children.
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Typical pretzel logic.
Hey, didn't Kate say that the kids wouldn't drive until 18?
People like her lie in wait for someone to make a little mistake so they can unleash whatever it is they've already decided to do.
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She put out the bait, he took it, and now it's all his fault.
What a healthy, well adjusted child should be encouraged to do is CALL him and discuss what he said and her concerns. Heck even meet him for lunch and talk about it, or if it's that bad, have a therapy session with him. Parents make mistakes just like kids will, and if she is expecting perfection from her father I have news for her, no father is perfect, even my amazing dad. It's how the two of you work through those imperfections that matter.
If she refuses to even speak to him, how is he supposed to know her expectations for him? What he is or isn't allowed to say and do?
This is beyond manipulative. It's emotionally abusive.
This is beyond manipulative. It's emotionally abusive.
August 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM
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Yup, and there's Kate Coyne praising Mady for her "maturity".
K8 applauds Mady's maturity in taking the high road. She is really applauding herself in being successful in having alienated the important loving daughter-father relationship which was so apparent on video.
With talk of taking driving lessons Mady knows who to kowtow to ensure her own car.
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I have commented before that I grew up in a large family. Our mother lacked maternal instincts and resented us deeply. It was messed up!
We kids bonded and were the source of nourishment and affection that we lacked from mom. We are still a tight and supportive group. (You could say that it worked out quite well.)
Long story short -- Catholic school, nuns with high standards and permission to discipline us, over-achieving kids afraid of going to hell or the Russians taking over America.
The first three girls performed well. Sister #4 floundered. These days she would have been diagnosed with dyslexia, but back in those cave man days, no one knew.
Little sister was held back and stayed in the second grade for an extra year. The shame! The horror for my parents!
We were called to a family meeting and the plan of action was explained to us.
For that entire year my sister was to be punished. No birthday celebration. No Christmas gifts. No family outings. The older sisters were instructed to "remind" her of her failure and keep her focused on studying to do better.
I was a kid, too. I complied. I remember one occasion when we were taken to town to get ice cream cones at a quaint, old-fashioned, family owned gas station. Sister # 4 was told she could have one because... (insert another lecture on how she had embarrassed our family). My parents never relented on the year-long "banishment" from pleasure.
I remember feeling uncomfortable but I certainly did not grasp how cruel and unfair that treatment was. I wouldn't begin to understand until I got older. Then I felt terribly guilty.
As an adult, I had to reconcile many deficits of our childhood. Growth is sometimes just getting past that which wasn't "fair".
I love my sister dearly. (Today is her birthday.) We have discussed that year many times. I recognize how it hurt her. I have apologized for my contribution.
I feel sorry for all the Gosselin children who are witness to Collin's isolation. These events are molding who they are and who they will become. The damage being done is deeper and wider than Kate realizes. It will take years to heal -- if ever.
Often the Gosselin story takes me back in time to remember events from my childhood. Probably why I am here.
Just for correction and continuity -- "...she could NOT have an ice cream cone"
Please excuse the other grammatical errors. I kinda' teared up while writing down the memory.
Knowing kids, I agree that the chance is great that the twins threaten the younger ones that "mommy will send you away just like Colin" and that the tups are indeed afraid of that happening. It's typical of siblings, but in that household, threats are real. I am so sad for Colin.
I wonder if she really thought this article would be well received or if she doesn't care: any publicity is good publicity...
Because it is NOT being well received. I hope M is reading the comments saying she is brainwashed. Maybe it will open here eyes a litt.e
Article from Fishwrapper.com, that basically sums it up:
http://www.fishwrapper.com/2016/08/25/kate-gosselin-pictures-photos-jon-gosselin-coparenting-twins-mady-statement-sad/
"If the Gosselin family wasn't a mess before ... no, that's too silly a notion, they were definitely a mess before. But ever since Kate Gosselin did that big interview about her and her children and their lives, things have been hitting the fan. Things that really have no place at all being near fans.
Kate ran her mouth about all sorts of private matters, apparently matters that she never even discussed with Jon Gosselin, and she also had a fair amount of accusations and insults to throw at Jon, too. One of the twins, Mady, even got in on the anti-Jon action, saying "He makes it seem like we're being kept from him, which is insane. He should maybe spend some time thinking about why we don't want to see him, and maybe realize that if he ever does want a relationship with us, talking about us on TV is not the way to make that happen."
It's a sad, sad situation, and now Kate is speaking up, once again, to make things even sadder. She commented on Mady's sassy little statement by saying that she's "proud" of her. Good grief.
According to Kate, the twins "do struggle ... it's not going to be an easy road – anyone who grows up with a parent who is often absent is going to have issues to deal with," and she says that Mady "doesn't want to join his game. At that age, to be able to locate the high road and stay on it, that just blows me away."
These poor kids ... Kate shouldn't be proud of Mady for this, and she certainly shouldn't think that she's on any kind of "high road" here. She should want to help Mady repair her relationship with Jon, but all Kate is doing here is alienating her children from their father even more, and it's hard to see.
She calls Jon "a parent who is often absent," but Jon's been saying for so long now how badly he wants to see his kids. He says Kate controls which kids get to see him, and while this is a big ol' "he said, she said" nightmare, we'd pretty much believe anyone over Kate Gosselin. It really seems like she's trying to destroy the kids' relationships with Jon, doesn't it?
What an actual monster."
Sue...1...To allow a child to trash their father is truly disgusting.
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Well, Kate did say years ago that the children would have to earn their cars. I'm guessing Mady has hers all picked out.
TLC stinks @90 - I can definitely hear that threat coming from Mady - not sure about Cara (yet).
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For that entire year my sister was to be punished. No birthday celebration. No Christmas gifts. No family outings. The older sisters were instructed to "remind" her of her failure and keep her focused on studying to do better.
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Dear God, Dmasy, your parents were terrible! I'm so sorry you lost the lottery with parental units.
Your sister is very lucky to have you to love her!!!
http://www.fishwrapper.com/2016/08/25/kate-gosselin-pictures-photos-jon-gosselin-coparenting-twins-mady-statement-sad/
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His is exactly what I said... m took the low road not the high road
localyocul said... 91
I wonder if she really thought this article would be well received or if she doesn't care: any publicity is good publicity...
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It's beyond reason how ill-conceived this article was. I would love to hear what a professional has to say about exposing children in this cruel way.
@Dmasy Truthfully speaking,one of the reasons why im around here still is that the Gosselin family relationship reminds me so much of my Aunt and Uncle's relationship.My aunt is similar to Kate in that she's a narcissistic.She always tries to control my cousins actions and tries to play victim.Like Kate,its never her fault.In fact she always sends her kids to do and get whatever she wants.My uncle is like Jon where he's a nice guy but my God he is so passive to the point where he lets her get away with anything and never puts his foot down.My oldest cousin reminds me so much of Mady,where not only is he so much like his mother but also has that nasty attitude.My middle cousin is like Collin where hes the sweetest and would always try to help my mom out but like Kate my aunt treats him like trash.Then there is my youngest cousin who is like one of the tup girls who is the favorite among the 3.One messed up thing i remember was last Christmas my aunt brought her like 15 things for Christmas but only got the boys 1 thing for Christmas.Yeah if thats not playing favorites i don't know what is.Only difference is that my aunt and uncle didn't get divorced,im unsure of what my aunt would do if they did.But at least she wouldn't have TLC lawyers to help her.So yeah sorry if im ranting but thats one of reasons i haven't left the Gosselin scene.
I think for many of us, there's something about Kate and her life that resonates, is familiar and that keeps us interested. Whether it's how she was raised, her narcissism, her grifting, her abuse of her children, her grifting, her inability to maintain a relationship with her family, friends, spouse, her inability to keep a job unless it's one that exploits her children -- for some of us it's like looking in a dark mirror and knowing the future and wanting to reach out and protect the children.
For those of us that experienced one or more of the above, we know it's not going to turn out well, or at least not without a lot of luck, support and stamina.
Part of me wonders if the school Collin is in gives him breathing room, a relief from the constant stressors of living in that house. If it's a good place, they'll provide him with the support and tools he needs to move toward a healthy and productive life, something I really doubt the other children will have.
Poor Collin made Radar picture and all. That woman should be ashamed of herself. If there is just one sibling who truly loves and misses him and gangs up on Kate to dare her to shove them out also she would well deserve it. This is just the beginning of her punishment for being so evil.
Just unbelievable. Unbelievable. No words.
I thought about the book of letters she wrote to each one of the kids. So I went to Google Books and typed up Colin's letter. I couldn't see the first paragraph due to copyright infringement. As I was typing, I gasped. A lot.
Dear Colin,
Although, I obviously do not possess the skills necessary to father you, I will walk with you and help guide you as I do my very best to mother you. I desire for you a rewarding career, a healthy, loving family, and happiness always. I pray that you will grow to love God and make choices that please Him always.
I know that the recent events in our family structure have greatly upset you. Maybe you, most of all. I want you to know that I have made and will continue to make decisions based on what I believe is best for you and your brothers and sisters.
These changes, I realize, are still painful and hurt a lot. I want you to know that my love for you will never change. I will never leave you, and when I must leave to go to work, I will always come back. I will always be your "same mommy" as I often remind you now.
You and your brothers and sisters are the reason I breathe. That fact will never change.
Thank you, Colin, for the complete honor of being your mommy. There is a special place in my heart that has your name on it.
Love forever and always, no matter what.
Mommy
Her letter to Colin that I posted PROVES she is CERTIFIABLY F-Bombing INSANE!
I am so sorry for the French, but this is
SO UPSETTING!
So just where was that separate bedroom anyway?
In the chicken coop? The apartment over the garage?
Did she turn a closet into a bedroom for him?
Sounds like she had him pretty well isolated from the others before he was ditched.
My nephew is on the autism spectrum and has been accepted in a writing program in a NC college. He is not able to live alone and probably wouldn't do well in a dorm. Did my bother tell him, sorry you can't go? No. He's a chef and talked with the higher ups at the franchise that he manages and they transferred him to a new store in NC so that his son can achieve his dream. I know not everyone can pack up and move but my brother is lucky that he could. He put his son first. That's what parents do.
GollyGee @101 - So she knew Collin, most of all, was the most greatly upset about the divorce, which of course means his father was no longer there for him 24/7. What did she do about that except banishing Jon from the compound.
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Dmasy (#88), bless you for sharing that personal story with us. Of course as a child you thought the only godly action was to obey your parents. I'm glad you and your siblings have forged such a special bond, despite your hellish beginnings.
And happy birthday to your sister.
Goody is still up Kate's rear end?
I guess that stick is still in place holding her sheep up there.
That's what parents do.
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Kate's not a parents she just a carrier of 8 babies. A real mother with love in her would NOT disrespect the father of her kids not matter what. And she would not put her child "emotional needs" out to the world.
Off topic, and yet on. I support an amazing charity called Pablove Foundation, started by parents who lost their little boy to cancer.
I didn't know Pablo, but I know friends of his, who are teenagers now.
September is Childhood Cancer Awareness Month, and the mother just sent out an appeal letter. She talked about how kids going back to school, and that her little boy didn't even live to get to first grade. She she's actually lost track of what grade he would be entering had he lived, and doesn't have the heart to calculate it. Here's a bit of the letter:
"The first day of school butterflies are a bit different for us moms and dads who've lost a child. Of course, we share the joy and excitement for our friends' children. But, even as we feel that joy, our thoughts naturally drift to the memories of our lost child. That's where the emotions change. It's somewhere between bittersweet and an overwhelming sense of loss you feel for yourself, your partner, your surviving children, your parents...your entire community."
These people were dealt an unfathomably painful blow, and decided to start an organization to help other kids and families. I so admire their strength and courage. And I can't help but compare them to that infinitely-bless Teflon grinning donkey,who has managed to wring income
and publicity out of her family's suffering.
The only thing that would inspire her to start a foundation for kids with emotional challenges is if it involved a huge paycheck, cross country trips to take her away from her kids, and lots and lots of butt kissing. Oh, and if someone else did every single shred of the work for her.
For those of you who've been reading here about TFW and C and feeling sadness, frustration, or even impotent rage, I encourage you to read about the Pablove Foundation, and perhaps finds some inspiration about the good in the world.
When you type a search into Twitter, common searches pop up. I started to type in Kate Gosselin and Kate Gosselin Awful came up LOL
On another note, the sheep are manning their battlestations via DM:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 18h18 hours ago
@msgoody2shoes21 DM
#My3AndMe @BarbGilmer 12m12 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Check message
Flimsy Flamsy (110), thank you.
I always felt so bad the last episodes where C was so drugged that he was almost comatose.
Maybe being away from the family will be better for him after all, if the facility doesn't keep him all drugged up.
Mady's comments really are unbelievable and what's worse is the fact that TFW is condoning her attitude. Cara just seems to go along to get along. Mady is going to be in for a rude awakening when she finds out that her attitude isn't cute or funny out in the real world. It brings to mind a cartoon that I saw that says: That first step off your high horse is going to be a bitch. Tuck and roll honey, tuck and roll
Duh. Jon is absent because he does not have full time custody. She makes it sound like he takes no interest in his kids. However, Jon said this on ET online:
Jon explained. "You know, it was great, and then Madelyn and Cara just stopped coming, around 12-13 [years old]. I didn't question it. I was just like, 'Hey, do what you want, be with your friends' and then it just became they're not coming."
"Then I had six [kids]," he continued. "I was just focusing on the ones that did come and then a couple years went by and then Collin stopped coming. I thought, maybe he just wants to do stuff with Mommy or whatever, and then it became long term."
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I take issue with his acceptance of that situation. He has no one but himself to blame for allowing those kids to call the shots on visitation and not pursuing Kate in court. Ok, did he at least call them every week? Because if they did not want to go to his home, and remember the girlfriends and moving around, then at the very least, he should have been phoning or using iPads to FaceTime. There is just no excuse to not communicate with your kids. I can tell you Kate undoubtedly told Mady, Cara and Collin their father wasn't interested in them any longer. In my opinion, both parents suck.
@Tucker's mom (186) BTW as for Cara's comments.Honestly if anyone remembers,Cara seem to be the "daddies girl"because i remember not only did her and jon roller blade together,(just the 2 of them)i also remember the card Cara write to Jon saying that she loved him and Mady was of course complaining about something as she was making the card.Its sad really IF Cara doesn't really have the same feelings for Jon like she did years ago.
Dr Lillian Glass wrote an article about this https://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/25/dr-lillian-glass-called-it-early-on-with-kate-gosslins-children-needing-help/
Jon needs to respond to this article with brutal determination and show up at Kate's gate with the Sheriff in tow, ready to extract his children if needed.
No kidding. It's time to teach Mady that her insolence won't be tolerated. Tough shit, kid.
In fact, I wonder if Mady and Cara are just waiting for a tour de force show of determination from Jon.
jamezvader1194 said... 116
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Care WAS a daddy's girl, as was I. It's a very special bond and I don't believe that she protests as much as Ms. Mady.
I agree with Dr. Glass.
https://www.drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/
Tucker's Mom said... 118
Jon needs to respond to this article with brutal determination and show up at Kate's gate with the Sheriff in tow, ready to extract his children if needed.
No kidding. It's time to teach Mady that her insolence won't be tolerated. Tough shit, kid.
In fact, I wonder if Mady and Cara are just waiting for a tour de force show of determination from Jon.
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I agree! Enough of this "whatever" he has proof of parental alienation. He needs to demand his visitations, visit Collin, and go back to court for at least joint legal custody. Gloves are off
Kate can't be a bad mom for sending him away!! Look how she looooves those puppies! 🙄😏
Tucker's Mom said... 118
Jon needs to respond to this article with brutal determination and show up at Kate's gate with the Sheriff in tow, ready to extract his children if needed.
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when my oldest brother divorced his wife she tried to keep his kids away from him when he came to town to see them.
He had to call the cops on her and he did
Mel said... 113
I always felt so bad the last episodes where C was so drugged that he was almost comatose.
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Remember when that awful cows person claimed that Emily had DM her saying Kate needed help with the kids because of problems and medication?
Hmmm after posting that I went to Ems Twitter to see if she had comments on the situation. I saw this from yesterday:
@EmCr68
Absolutely disgusted right now. One word; selfish
I would not care if I had divorced satan himself. I would find a way to visit that child and give him a hug and some encouraging words. If the facility was too far away, I would move to be closer and drive to see the other 7 children.
There is NO excuse or logical reason. None.
Chefsummer, it's so good to see you back. I always enjoyed your input and thoughts. I agree with all you say about how evil Kate is. It is so hard to understand how her fans still think her shit doesn't stink, that she is such a great mother and Jon is Satan himself. They are both guilty of bad parenting and their children are paying and will continue paying the ultimate price.
Jane said... 99
''...Part of me wonders if the school Collin is in gives him breathing room, a relief from the constant stressors of living in that house. If it's a good place, they'll provide him with the support and tools he needs to move toward a healthy and productive life, something I really doubt the other children will have.''
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Jane, you've said what I've been thinking! IF we were talking about a 'normal' household, then removing the child might not be a good thing. However, Kate's household is FAR from being normal. Being in a place where he is not constantly berated and punished and treated 'less than' would be a good thing for that child...even though it means he is away from his siblings.
I wonder if the time Hanna refused to go home from her visit with Jon and her complaints to him about the way her mother was treating Colin triggered ?CPS? to instruct her to no longer force Colin to be a part of her filming them.
Someone in the comments I've read about this mess speculated if the REAL reason Colin was sent away was because Kate was told he could not be filmed and her response was to get rid of Colin instead stopping the filming. Of all the things I've read, this is the thing that I believe rings most true from what we have all learned about Kate and her behavior!
I wonder if Jon even knew about him being removed from Kate's house until the People article came out. I also wonder if that despicable person has 'arranged' for Jon to be barred from seeing Colin once Jon discovers exactly where Colin is!
Now that Jon knows, the ball is in his court and he really really needs to step up and 'do the right thing' for his child. Jon had the strength to walk away from being filmed and he needs to do the same thing for Colin!! If that means coming with law enforcement and his court order in his hand to see Colin where ever Colin is...then that is what he simply MUST do!!
I'm surprised Colin's school hasn't reached out to Jon so he's part of the program. Wouldn't they expect both parents to be involved?
Jane, you've said what I've been thinking! IF we were talking about a 'normal' household, then removing the child might not be a good thing. However, Kate's household is FAR from being normal. Being in a place where he is not constantly berated and punished and treated 'less than' would be a good thing for that child...even though it means he is away from his siblings.
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Sadly, he's probably better off out of the home to deal with his challenges. Look at how Kate treated him when he got her that wonderful birthday present! She knows his issues and should have made him feel great about his choice. Instead, she treated him like he was a weirdo for his choice.
When my children were tweens my son was beyond ticklish. I told him periodic rib inspections were needed to make sure he was growing properly, which he didn't buy for a minute :-)
Once, when I rented a new apartment he tackled his sister, who is three and a half years younger than him, and gave her a top to bottom both sides 'inspection'. A 30 second clip of this ended up on my YouTube channel. Six months later I got a query, did I have any more of this great tickling footage. I looked at the video and it had 20,000 views, while the rest of my stuff had at most dozens of views.
It took me a minute to figure it out, then I shuddered and hit delete on that video. The world is full of really creepy people and there is no point to exposing your children to that, not even at a distance.
Sadly, he's probably better off out of the home to deal with his challenges. Look at how Kate treated him when he got her that wonderful birthday present! She knows his issues and should have made him feel great about his choice. Instead, she treated him like he was a weirdo for his choice.
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And it wasn't even a weird choice it was a wonderful thoughtful gift
Remona Blue said... 128
Jane said... 99
''...Part of me wonders if the school Collin is in gives him breathing room, a relief from the constant stressors of living in that house. If it's a good place, they'll provide him with the support and tools he needs to move toward a healthy and productive life, something I really doubt the other children will have.''
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Jane, you've said what I've been thinking! IF we were talking about a 'normal' household, then removing the child might not be a good thing. However, Kate's household is FAR from being normal. Being in a place where he is not constantly berated and punished and treated 'less than' would be a good thing for that child...even though it means he is away from his siblings.
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So true, Remona - it's far from a normal household. I doubt we'll ever know the truth of what went on in that house and maybe that's for the better. Even if one or more of the kids writes a book, Kate has them so screwed up … well, I think they'd say anything.
As so often happens here, this makes me return to my abysmal childhood and the memory of when I first learned there was such a thing as a boarding school. I was maybe 12 or 13 at the time and in my rural setting truly had no idea. But the idea enthralled me! There was a place I could go to learn, which I loved doing, and be away from chaos and heartache. And there'd be adults who'd take time and listen, and there'd be food and it would be clean, etc etc. It didn't happen and I turned out pretty much okay anyway lol. But, still, I think of Collin and hope that maybe this isn't such a terrible thing.
Sorry if this went through already:
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/slideshows/13-really-bad-celebrity-dads/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Kudos Mady and Kate. Jon is once again being pilloried and vilified in the press. You must feel proud.
Well done. Bravo. Slow hand clap.
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2016/08/blind-item-2-1372.html
"This on again/off again always wanting to be A list reality mom is getting much worse in the treatment of her kids. Apparently the abuse has really been ratcheted up as of late."
This is a celebrity gossip site, I wouldn't take this blind item as gospel, but a lot of their gossip turns out to be right.
If she refuses to even speak to him, how is he supposed to know her expectations for him? What he is or isn't allowed to say and do?
This is beyond manipulative. It's emotionally abusive.
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You got that right. I know that we all have our own opinions of Jon, and that's to be expected. I have known him since the twins were in first grade, and all I will say is that he is not lazy, he is not cold, he is not uncaring, and I suppose I am biased to some extent, but I have looked at both sides now (apologies to Judy Collins...ironic about the name, isn't it).
That said, there is probably much more going on in this whole sad situation that we don't know, and may never know. I only hope that these kids don't grow up to be self-entitled, spoiled little rich kids, uncaring, and without compassion. I can see the twins heading that way, but I don't know about the younger ones. It's a shame, really, and I think that maybe it's too late to nip it in the bud. What's done is done, and can't be undone (Lady Macbeth), and yes, I blame Kate for it. The kids are paying for it by having a manipulative mother, and the emotional trauma they must be going through at her hands just can't be overlooked.
The thing is that she just won't stop. As long as TLC feeds her, and Coyne is in love with her, and she has a few naive, but insane sheeple left, she'll just keep plugging away with the media campaign. She needs a professional to address her mental issues, but that's just not going to happen.
In her case, what happens to a raisin in the sun/a dream deferred? Does it die forever or does it take on a different form completely? What's her next move if, and when, TLC cuts the cord?
I also think of that gift Collin got for Kate, a mother bear and her cub. To him, it was a representation of the relationship he wanted with her. He wanted to be loved individually. But Kate didn't get it. She wanted to know where the other 7 were. Collin is not an individual to her, he is part of a set. That set is what made her famous. That set is what makes her money. She has no interest in each of them as individuals. She did not understand the concept of the mother loving each child, or that Collin might crave that kind of love and attention. She never showed any interest in her boys anyway. She didn't even participate in their special days. Do you think she ever sat down with just one child and hugged that child, or read to or played with him? We never saw it on the show, and she never mentioned any such thing in her diary.
She did not want to deal with Collin one-on-one. She didn't want to give him the individual attention and love he craved. It was just too much to ask from a narcissist like her. It was easier for her to just make him go away and let someone else deal with his needs. Then she can get back to dealing with the remaining set of 7.
Milo must be in heaven. Kate posted the following on her instagram about the People shoot:
kateplusmy8Thank you all for your kind supportive words... ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ @mamabare2 @miloandjack2016 etc :)
What's her next move if, and when, TLC cuts the cord?
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I wonder if TLC has already let her go. Kate would never admit it until TLC makes it public.
@Tucker's Mom I doubt they did,even if they're testing the waters to see what the majority of the public thinks about Kate,i think they'll still air the episodes because look at the duggars.They got so much negative feedback and yet Jill and Jessa are still from the looks of it getting another season.
swimgirl said... 137
Milo must be in heaven. Kate posted the following on her instagram about the People shoot:
kateplusmy8Thank you all for your kind supportive words... ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ @mamabare2 @miloandjack2016 etc :)
August 25, 2016 at 5:29 PM
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Kate could run over a family of raccoons, then back her car over them and Milo would STILL be telling her how wonderful she is.
Found this on Facebook. There was no credit on it.
One day, when my children are grown, I hope they still come through that front door without knocking. I hope they head to the kitchen for a snack and rifle through the mail looking for a magazine they always read.
I hope they come in and feel the weight of adulthood leave them, for they are home. For my children, my door will forever be open. Above all else, I hope they know this without me telling them. Love speaks clearly enough.
I wonder if they filmed a few clips with Collin present for the not-yet-released episodes. How sad- another back-to-school shopping trip . Even the one from the year before- I am getting mixed up when each was really shot- Collin looked so dismal and quiet as the kids picked backpacks and clothes for LCDS when he knew he was to be home-schooled. This is a million times worse. Did they shop for his non-matching required items separately?
nealrauhauser said... 131
Welcome. Is McGiblets still kicking around or did you all beat him down permanently?
@ConcernedChick: This is what @Kateplusmy8 wanted! Experts speculating about poor Collin. UGH! Collin Gosselin: Why He Was Sent Away http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/08/25/collin-gosselin-why-he-was-sent-away-kate-social-challenges-special-needs/
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I kind of agree with this tweet. Now that the "experts" are weighing in it will give TFW and excuse to go on her "set the record straight" tour. If I were Jon I'd try to have a gag order slapped on her so that she can't add any more fuel to this particular fire.
I kind of agree with this tweet. Now that the "experts" are weighing in it will give TFW and excuse to go on her "set the record straight" tour. If I were Jon I'd try to have a gag order slapped on her so that she can't add any more fuel to this particular fire.
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You know I was thinking it's almost better if she was going to say something, to just tell us EVERYTHING. Every last detail so there is nothing left to speculate. By throwing out vague bits and pieces, it just galvanizes a bunch of questions and speculation.
The sick thing is, I think she knew exactly what she was doing throwing out bits and pieces, knowing it would cause lots and lots of discussion and buzz.
I appreciate seeing new faces and old here, and I appreciate those who have been so forthcoming sharing their own stories. What a nice group here.
The problem is that TLC doesn't give a F**k about anyone. The only care about $$$ them and mommy dearest are a team made in hell.
To bad for the kids they can't get off the ride.
The sick thing is, I think she knew exactly what she was doing throwing out bits and pieces, knowing it would cause lots and lots of discussion and buzz.
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Not to mention her decision to put 7 kids on the cover of People magazine. Kate could have given a brief interview for an article in People, but no, she got the cover and put her and the kids, sans Colin, on the blasted cover.
There are no words for the lack of sensitivity.
All the blather and loving on her puppies kind of makes me sick now, knowing that Colin is put in an inpatient program while his sibling get the joy of puppies.
Here's an article about online comments from CNN. They're basically saying their comments were too flooded with trolls and the debates of low quality. Darn, would have loved to see a comment section on their Gosselin article.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/21/tech/web/online-comment-sections/
osted the following on her instagram about the People shoot:
kateplusmy8Thank you all for your kind supportive words... ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ @mamabare2 @miloandjack2016 etc :)
August 25, 2016 at 5:29 PM
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Yep, that's pretty much the three folks that gave her supportive words. @mamabare2, @miloandjack2016, and @etc :)
Kate could have given a brief interview for an article in People,
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Because no one beside Milo wants Kate by herself and I think she knows this.
Dmasy....Soon I will be 70, and I too came from a very dysfunctional family with no nurturing whatsoever. My older brother was a stutterer, my father hated this "imperfection" and would hold our dinner until
my brother could pick up the telephone and say hello without stammering. I can still see him sitting by the telephone, my father making the sound of a ringing phone, and my poor brother picking up the phone and doing his best to say hello to the imaginary caller. There we sat, my mother and my siblings hoping, praying Chris could manage to say one little word. it didn't matter how long it took, my father was unrelenting, damn the dinner, perfection was far more important. The damage to my brother still lives today in him, it lives in all of us.
My brother's humiliation was kept inside our home, shared by each member of our family in different ways, Still, it stands with us today, watching a child being punished for being different.
Seeing Kate on the cover of People magazine, minus a child, outing him
to the world with a smile on her face brought back this old, painful memory for me. How could she do this to her own child, expose his fragility for all to see as fodder, as tabloid news. And as for Kate Coyne, she is as bad as Kate for publishing this sad story. I am sickened by all of it.
Speaking of puppies.
My brothers dogs has three lovely tiny bulldogs. And boy are they adorable and sweet.
Jumping In (151), how sad are some of our memories? I could almost see your home with a heavy black dial phone.
Call your brother and give him a verbal hug. YOU will feel better.
I talked to my sister today and I told her what I shared here. She didn't remember the ice cream incident. I did. We had some good laughing and sharing and I know she is all grown up and a wonderful woman.
You know, she's not doing herself any favors by not revealing Colin's diagnosis. If she had said "Collin has Asberger's Syndrome (or whatever--just speculation that's what it might be) and we were unhappy with the instruction at the public school, so Jon and I decided to a private school that specializes in his disability. Unfortunately, it was a couple of hours away, so we made the painful decision to have him board during the week," I would cut her some slack.
Instead, I am wondering if he was violent or abusive to his siblings or if she sent him away because he didn't cooperate with her and there's really nothing seriously wrong with him. Either way, she had no right to drag him through the mud.
Minka's Tail (#154), I wonder if part of the reason TFW isn't being specific is because, as a celebrity (oy), as soon as she labels it, she'll be deluged with requests for help and advice from other parents whose children have the same diagnosis. And as it has been well established, TFW doesn't do compassion.
However, if she was offered to do a TV special about whatever the condition is, with a big ol' paycheck, she might spill the beans.
Chefsummer@152 - Glad to hear about the bully babies.
<=====Here's my baby - 4 1/2 months old now and he's a holy terror but I wouldn't trade a minute of it.
Jumping In (#151), your story about did me in.
Your poor brother. And how awful for all of you to have witnessed his humiliation. But thankfully for him, you can validate his stories, so he won't think he imagined the terror.
So many of everyone's personal stories today have been told in such vivid detail, although the experiences took place decades ago. Does TFW think the kids will only have memories of fun trips and backstage passes? Does she not realize that they'll remember the bad stuff, too? As much, if not more, than the good? She crowed about that People cover making memories. But
for all she knows, some, or even all, of her 7 children will have horrible memories of that
photo shoot -- missing their brother's presence, and feeling that things were not quite right,
but that they were forced to SMILE anyway.
So....if Collin learns to trust the professionals at the facility, he may open up about how he's been treated by his parents. Maybe someone would be compelled to report Kate's abuse.
I haven't commented here in a very long time, although I've lurked some, but reading about the article and the news about Collin, I had to come and read all the posts here. The personal experiences of some of you is heartbreaking. It makes me appreciate and bless my parents even more.
Back in the dark ages, I taught Special Ed., and I've seen red flag behavior from Collin since he was a toddler. However, nothing I saw indicated a need for institutionalization. I haven't watched the show since the move to the mansion, though, and of course, we get a very edited view from the show. I'm hoping that Collin is at a school that is designed to work with his sort of problems. There are some very good residential schools. Some are very bad. Knowing TFMJG, she would be more interested in the cost than in the one most suited to meet his needs. I pray it's a good school.
I, too, hope that Jon moves Heaven and Earth to see his son. I wouldn't put it past the Shrew to refuse to tell him where Collin is, and to find some way to get a court order forbidding him from seeing him, though. I pray for the other children, too. It sounds like it's probably too late for the twins, but maybe some of the younger children stand a chance.
Nice to see you, readerlady!
Readerlady, so happy to see you! Last I remember you were stuck under the veranda. Really nice to see so many familiar names.
Being Conservative on FB has now posted about the twins statements and everyone is saying they are alienated\brainwashed. Several using the actual term parental alienation, others who maybe don't know the term still describing what is indeed alienation. Amazing to think we first raised the issue of PA here so many years ago.
FlimsyFlamsy, thanks. I've been hiding in the far corner under the veranda. When the discussion here became so political, I tried to escape, but got stuck. Then it is so nice and cool there, I stayed because of the horrible heat and humidity this summer. I've pretty much gotten bored with TFMJG, until she does something so outrageous and despicable like this article.
That "picture-perfect" family on the cover is as fake as Kate's veneers. This sad, disgraceful situation is exploitation by Kate,People and TLC of the most vulnerable child in that family. Abuse of the highest order. No real "mother" would be publicize her child's issues. Can noone protect that child and the other children?
I haven't posted in forever, although I do pop in sometimes when there's news. Oh boy!
I haven't seen the People article, and I probably won't read it, so thanks to all of you who have shared your impressions. As a mom with four kids on the high end of the spectrum, I can't say I'm surprised she sent him to a residential school.
ABA therapy, which most kids on the spectrum receive (? - Did the article say he has autism? I wasn't sure but from the comments I've read it seems like he has) can range from 4-5 hours or more per day. For my kids, they received therapy in home, so imagine how inconvenient that would be for filming. Also, parental involvement is crucial to the program. Someone on the first page shared their experience with their own child and therapy very eloquently, so I won't go into specifics.
But there's no way Kate would be up to it. She's too much of a narcissist. I'm not sure about Jon. Maybe if he had Collin full time and Kate paid Jon child support...Oh wait, what was I thinking.
As for Mady, whoever commented that she likely figured it was easier for her emotionally to just diss Dad and toe Mom's party line I think nailed it.
I hope and pray Collin gets the help he needs. I would love to see Jon enforce visitation for all his kids, but I think at this point it's too late.
It's just a very sad situation. What sorry excuses for parents.
This is like old home Week! Many of us older posters have been brought back by the, once again, shitballs behavior of kart. Sorry, but I am too angry to censor myself.
I agree with an earlier poster that inpatient placements at facilities are usually for seriously at risk kids. My uncensured opinion is that he probably became violent with the family. I further guess that he scared her. It must have gotten to the point where she could not longer dominate or control him with her words or wooden spoon. Maybe he hit her back.
I hate that we are even talking about him, but I think for me it is more about her.
She has caused these kids untold and incalculable harm. Colin being sent/enrolled/admitted to an inpatient facilty is just the tip of the iceberg,
IMHO. I am surprised that she didn't try to pass this off as a 'private school'.
There will be more to come out in the next while. Someday she will no longer be able to cover things up.
Permanent Name in Blue
Readerlady, Kate will say that Jon's presence will cause too much disruption to Collins program/routine. Hopefully, his therapy team will insist on rebuilding that relationship.
Colin is never coming home. Kate truly is incapable of dealing with special needs children. Although I truly believe Colin's most difficult special need is that he needs a loving mother. He seemed to be almost begging to be loved. He did so much to conform to her idea of a helpful child. She has no love for him, never has. And yes I agree that the child abuse in his younger years could have caused damage. He would need a full neurological workup and Kate will never authorize it. She will never let him come home and disrupt her life.
I know Jon has made many mistakes in the custody situation. But let's look at Kate having no help from Jon. Kate refused to send Colin on visitation days so Jon didn't see him to know what his needs were. Kate has talked about how the kids aren't supposed to tell Jon anything. Even if they do tell a little, it's probably fragmented and confusing. Kate apparently never called/emailed/wrote/told the lawyer to communicate to Jon that Colin had problems and she wanted Jon to do stuff. Gee Kate. I wonder why you were alone.
Just want you all to know that I had to drive through Wernersville today. I was on 422 and around where her house is up the hill I gave her the finger. Yes I know how mature it was, don't care.
Disgusted. said... 161
So....if Collin learns to trust the professionals at the facility, he may open up about how he's been treated by his parents. Maybe someone would be compelled to report Kate's abuse
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Yes! They are mandatory reporters !
Jon really needs to get his ass into court to get legal custody changed. He has evidence of parental alienation in photo and print
To be fair, I'm sure there have been difficult and challenging times with C, if what TFW is saying has even a grain of truth. And there must have been disappointment and sadness in even her cold heart that her child was experiencing problems.
But did she expect raising 8 kids to be a non-stop picnic? Is she only interested in the picture perfect moments? Having watched her for more than a decade, I think we know the answer to that.
TFW has no steady job. She has a living, breathing ex-husband who loves and cares about
his children. She has had steady childcare and housekeeping assistance since the tups were born. She has a church community she used to be a part of. She has financial resources a real single mom would die for. How did sending her child away become the best solution?
Remember how Aunt Jodi would take all 8 kids every Friday morning (along with her 4), and "wear them out" for TFW so she could bring them home and let them nap until their dad came back from work? If TFW hadn't torched nearly every bridge, she'd have a community of loving, supportive family, friends and neighbors who would probably gladly be there for her and her family. If she's alone, it's her own damn fault.
The fact that he was physically abused as a toddler could have profound physiologic injuries to the developing brain. She needs to take responsibility here. At the very least his anger issues could be stemming from severe physical abuse.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 165
Being Conservative on FB has now posted about the twins statements and everyone is saying they are alienated\brainwashed. Several using the actual term parental alienation, others who maybe don't know the term still describing what is indeed alienation. Amazing to think we first raised the issue of PA here so many years ago.
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WOW the comments are ALL scathing. Amazing that she thought this article would garner sympathy for her.
NJGal51 said... 159
I love bullies.
The puppies are so spoiled-(my fault lol) he also has four older bullies and they're giant 50 lbs babies. Who think they're tiny lap dogs :-)
May said... 174
The fact that he was physically abused as a toddler could have profound physiologic injuries to the developing brain. She needs to take responsibility here. At the very least his anger issues could be stemming from severe physical abuse.
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If she did this. Kate would have to admit it's her fault that her son isn't perfect and that she is the cause of his "illness".
She would have to put her child above herself and accept her horrible behavior and mistreatment as a mother.
Kate will never ever do this.
Chef (#177), speaking of putting her child before herself, I just had this thought. Instead of the once-a-month spa day TFW admitted to treating herself to, what if she'd taken one day a month to spend one-on-one time with her son? A child who craved her attention, affection, and approval, yet always seemed to be kept at arm's length? Heck, she couldn't even be bothered to participate in his one-on-one day on the show. Bailed on all 3 boys, and only went to the 5 girls' days.
Remember when TFW said Beth told her going to the spa would make her a better mommy? I wish she had told her that putting herself second, third, or sometimes -- perish the thought -- LAST, is really what makes you a better mommy.
I wonder what the DM-ing between the sheeple was about. Maybe they're planning to deluge People with positive letters and emails, in hopes one will get printed.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 178
That would be a great idea spending time with Collin. Kate could ever do the spa day's with all of the girls. On that day she could let Jon have a boy's day.
Then they can switch. But I highly doubt mommy dearest would/will give her "me time" for her kid.
Cause again that would me she have to sacrifice her needs for theirs..And that's not going to happen.
. We are not privy to the details, nor should we be.
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I wish Kate felt that way.
As my mom told me and other parents have said.."Being a real parent means being selfless"- And Kate will never be that to her kids.
Like I said be for I was really sick as a child and my mom took total care of me which meant she didn't have a lot of time for my brothers..And 28yers later even though we told her that she's a great mom. she still feels. guilty about not having time for my brothers.
I agree with Minka's Tail; the only reason I can fathom to send Collin away would be for physical abuse and he could not be controlled by medication. As an aside, my daughter worked in such an institution. It's not pleasant. The kids abuse each other and the staff. My daughter had to learn how to defend herself!
Kate is a monster. She can afford a minder for Collin if that is what was needed so the kid could stay home. Those institutions are for the worst of the worst, a last ditch effort. I don't care if the campus is pretty. Doesn't mean a thing.
Another article from People in which Kate talks about Jon and their divorce. Basically, a rehash of what she's said before.
http://www.people.com/article/kate-gosselin-recalls-divorce-jon-gosselin?
From the article:
"In 2009, Kate and Jon Gosselin's very public marriage crumbled, the pair victims of public scrutiny and tabloid rumors that grew alongside the success of their TLC reality TV series, Jon & Kate Plus 8.
The relationship's dissolution was still a shock to Kate, who tells PEOPLE in this week's issue that her ex-husband transformed suddenly.
"I really would have thought he'd have been here for the long haul," Kate says. "The weirdest thing is that overnight he became a different person.
Kate, 41, says Jon began buying motorcycles and cars, and staying out late – despite having eight young kids – including sextuplets – at home.."
Meanwhile, Kate doesn't mention that she was off touring the country during that time, doing book tours with Steve, "despite having eight young kids – including sextuplets – at home."
I guess that doesn't count.
Also from the article. I wonder if it's a typo:
"The pair divorced in 2009, and the show was later revamped to just Kate Plus 8. It will celebrate its 10-year anniversary with a special next year."
So this whole article's purpose seems to have to been to highlight "poor Mommy Kate" and her trials and tribulations, (using Collin's situation to do so) and also to bash Jon.
Basically, same shit different day.
Interesting that the Kate Plus 8 facebook page did not link to the People article. People still commented on the situation under a Playhouse Master post...99% scathing
I wonder what the buzz in Kate's town about all this. If there are any locals here, can you share?
It's really sad to the lone parental alienation denier stop by here as a drive by overnight. It's right in print. Kate praising her daughter for trashing her father. That is parental alienation, in print. How can this be denied? She is SUPPORTING and PRAISING a dysfunctional and negative relationship with her father--parental alienation at its core. I don't get the denial, I really don't.
A lot of children are hurt by parental alienation, so too will Mady be. It helps nothing to deny it.
TLC stinks said... 183
I agree with Minka's Tail; the only reason I can fathom to send Collin away would be for physical abuse and he could not be controlled by medication. As an aside, my daughter worked in such an institution. It's not pleasant. The kids abuse each other and the staff. My daughter had to learn how to defend herself!
Kate is a monster. She can afford a minder for Collin if that is what was needed so the kid could stay home. Those institutions are for the worst of the worst, a last ditch effort. I don't care if the campus is pretty. Doesn't mean a thing.
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Yes, that's true. I have been inside a few Devereux for my job. Even within the same system, the quality varies. Some of the variation has to do with the population being served, some to do with the quality of the staff. The one I am thinking of with a nice campus has a pediatric inpatient unit, a boarding school and a day school all on the same campus. The school building has an actual rubber room as a "time out" room for kids that are out of control. There is always a wall, or door or something smashed in from a student it seems.
Another campus seems to be worse as far as physical facilities; not sure if it's due to serving more severe emotional needs or what.
There is one for students with mental retardation (or intellectual disablitiles) near me. A lot of them have Down's syndrome. That is a VERY nice setting.
Then there is the one for severely autistic kids. THey had a GI outbreak several years ago that was very difficult to control because a lot of the kids smeared feces over everything.
I can't imagine C fitting into any of these places unless he has emotionally deteriorated quite a bit.
Optimistically, I would like to believe Mady was play-acting (in her diss of Jon) as her part of the bargain in extracting all-expenses-paid, 3-series BMWs for herself and Cara out of TFW.
If Mady's not play-acting, then I wouldn't be surprised to see a future story about her getting beaten up in college. And it'll be at a Quaker college, where she'll enrage her dorm-mates to the point where they decide to temporarily set aside their vows of nonviolence.
TLC stinks...said 183
Kate is a monster. She can afford a minder for Collin if that is what was needed so the kid could stay home. Those institutions are for the worst of the worst, a last ditch effort. I don't care if the campus is pretty. Doesn't mean a thing.
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Strange that SHE has a handler and has had one for over 10 years. Steve was hired as a body guard and minder because she flips out if any of the mass, unwashed, mediocre get near hear or even dare speak to her.
She could of easily hired a grown adult handler for Colin and kept him at home. But, filming and making money is her top priority.
She is beyond evil. I would not put it past her to have told Colin if he told anything that he would suffer. She would do anything to protect her little world that she has fooled from day one.
Vile, freaking @wipe!
Kate is a twit said... 186
Another article from People in which Kate talks about Jon and their divorce. Basically, a rehash of what she's said before.
http://www.people.com/article/kate-gosselin-recalls-divorce-jon-gosselin?
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Hahahaha! The comments are brutal to TFW! If these articles are supposed to garner sympathy for her and drum up ratings for new show, it is an epic fail.
"I really would have thought he'd have been here for the long haul," Kate says. "The weirdest thing is that overnight he became a different person.
Kate, 41, says Jon began buying motorcycles and cars, and staying out late – despite having eight young kids – including sextuplets – at home.."
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Jeebus, that was 6 or 7 YEARS ago! Yes, Jon rebelled, but c'mon, honey, you were flitted about the country with Steve. Per Robert, Kate was gone A LOT, would come home briefly, do her laundry and repack her bags to do it all over again.
Robert tracked the vast expanses of time that Kate was not home, and she'd be gone for days and weeks at a time.
Then came the boobs, the face work, the lipo, the injectables, the bleached locks and let's not forget Kate parading her boobs around wearing hooker heels wherever she went.
She changed too. They both did. Neither one is in any way recognizable as the poor, Christian, bible-verse wearing, mediocre, mousy little couple from Berks Co., PA that TLC packaged for the public way back in 2005/6.
You know it really does floor me that he has been sent away. The ideal thing these days is Wrap around care. She is at home all day. She can afford these services.
http://www.bazelon.org/where-we-stand/success-for-all-children/mental-health-services-for-children/wraparound-services-.aspx
It is so good to see old familiar names again!
It is SO SAD it is under these circumstances!
Right now, the millstone that is going to be placed upon her chest couldn't be heavy enough, in my opinion.
How can Kate possible say that Jon changed overnight when she spent half her time away from her home, her husband and her HOM children at the time she claims that aliens abducted him?
How would she know?
She wasn't even there, and when she was home, it was plain to see, she was fully checked-out of her marriage.
I can't imagine C fitting into any of these places unless he has emotionally deteriorated quite a bit.
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That's what I wonder and fear for the little guy.
You have to wonder what precipitated this failure to keep him at home.
We've been pondering for awhile now just what the heck is going with TLC not airing K+8 and it may be that they are coasting along right now trying to figure out what to do with Colin in inpatient care.
Kate reigniting the hellish flames of her post-divorce war with Jon doesn't help either.
I think, and I hope, really, that people are actually sickened by the Gosselin saga at this point.
I've never seen anything like it. The closest thing that I can recall (aside from Charlie Sheen, who is a psycho nutcase), going waaaaaaaaaaay back, is the divorce between Burt Reynolds and Lonnie Anderson.
Yup, long time ago.
Back then (when dinosaurs roamed the earth), before social media, those two dingalings fought it out in the tabloids and on tv talk shows. There was no end to their nastiness and degrading on another as a parent (to their adopted son).
Jon and Kate put them to shame.
What's wrong with buying a motorcycle? She bought an Audi! You come into some money, and some people, lots of people, choose to buy it on a vehicle of their dreams. She did TOO! Maybe that's not the best investment or a good use of your children's money, but when she did it too, wtf is she even talking about? Even so I haven't the foggiest idea what a motorcycle or an Audi has to do with your ability to be a good parent.
What is this woman's problem? The divorce was ages ago and she's STILL harping about a motorcycle? Does he even have it anymore? She is certifiable and an obsessed parental alienator.
I also wonder what the other people Kate alienated from the kids thinks of all this?Aunt Jodi,Kevin,beth,Kendra,Ashley and everyone else who got cut loss.I honestly hope Jon does stay in touch with them and they push him to do something about this.This has be going on for a long time.
It's shocking she would go there with how Jon spent the money or where he was, when the evidence is overwhelming she did the same if not MORE. She really is so delusional and narcissistic she doesn't care there is clear evidence of this staring her right in the face. It's almost sociopathic.
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