Popular "Mommy blogger" and writer Elizabeth Bastos has packed up shop after realizing (with the help of one concerned grandfather) her posts were intruding on her children's right to privacy.
NJGal51 (#1), oh, no, she didn't. Line officially crossed. CWS in full effect. Unless it's an imaginary syndrome? Let's check in with Selena's family and get their thoughts.
Does Milo ever think that one of the things that bothers Colin is the constant intrusion from cameras and strangers? She's creepy for posting a pic with a message to him. I'd want to hide under my covers.
" miloandjack2016A special #ShoutOut to this bright handsome young man! Kind of in the public eye right now...but I'm confident he will take his special talents and work ethics to do well in his new school. He has a devoted Mom and 7 siblings that #LoveHimToTheMoonAndBack! He is in a place getting tools he needs!He is destined to succeed! Love from our family to yours!! ❤ @kateplusmy8"
"Kind of in the public eye right now"? Oh, give me a break! His mother got yet another tabloid magazine cover and splashed the news all over the world, FFS! Putting Mady's vitriol for own father out there was a ploy to draw even more eyeballs to the fact that Colin is now placed out of the home. So yeah, that kinda puts Colin out there in the public eye. Milo makes it sound like "whoopsie!", the world knows about your struggles now.
Under all that folksy job, she really is a manipulative PoS, isn't she? Just like her imaginary BFF.
miloandjack2016A special #ShoutOut to this bright handsome young man! Kind of in the public eye right now...but I'm confident he will take his special talents and work ethics to do well in his new school. He has a devoted Mom and 7 siblings that #LoveHimToTheMoonAndBack! He is in a place getting tools he needs!He is destined to succeed! Love from our family to yours!! ❤ @kateplusmy8
Sad but true said... 198 The doggie tales continue. IG is curious. Photo posted 4 minutes ago, already has 100 hearts and no comments. I can't figure out how things are counted over there.
kateplusmy8'Please??' 'No. Play with your own chicken. That one is MINE!' #Shoka #Mak #DogConversations
Carole (197), on the previous photo (of Nanuq in the car), I could swear it had upwards on 85 comments at one point and then suddenly early yesterday the number went to 23. I have heard IG takes quick action to take down negative comments, but if that's true, she must be spending half her day on the phone to them, lol. Oh well, guess she has to have something to do.
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Apparently you can remove negative comments from your pictures yourself. I looked it up because I saw the comments about C where people were responding to someone whose post was not there. TFW will love love love IG
Tucker's Mom said... 196 She could enrol him in the computer based version of school and keep him in the basement. Instead we get these weird clues (that may or may not be true). C had his own room, a different schedule. We can see he missed parts of filming. ***** The separate bedroom thing was a weird revelation and I think a revealing mistake on Kate's part. Why would Colin be in a separate room unless he was disruptive or dangerous to the other boys, or, frighteningly, he was kept in a separate place to control and isolate him. IIRC, there are allegations that Kate has locked kids in their bedroom (one of the girls who couldn't get to the bathroom at night).
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Remember when one of the girls slept in the basement for some reason? When they were in the old house...
Jeanne said... 194 I'm really confused about timeline or maybe it's about cause and effect. We know for sure that Colin stopped going to LCDS. We don't know the exact reason.
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And not that long ago, I think Jon said he was being homeschooled...
Apparently you can remove negative comments from your pictures yourself. I looked it up because I saw the comments about C where people were responding to someone whose post was not there. TFW will love love love IG _____
Aha! So now we know how she'll be spending her many non-filming hours. I imagine, hours-wise, that it'll end up being pretty much a full-time job. Thanks for the info.
Localyocul (#9), it was A that TFW claimed was sleeping in the basement, because she was a "bat" and disrupted people at night. But then I think that was debunked when we found out Jon was actually sleeping in the basement.
And you stated as fact that he has a learning disability and you haven't the foggiest clue whether that's true. You are no different.
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I did not state that as fact. Read again. All I said is that most learning disabilities are not life-threatening. I did not say that's what Collin has, definitively.
Not surprisingly, you have again missed the point and in the process, twisted my words. Milo will say anything to justify Kate sending him away including implying that sweet little boy is violent. All I'm saying is I'd like to assume he is NOT violent and give him every benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, that's all.
Oh, I get it...Gladys was worried that the new puppy post would make TFW seem unconcerned about C's welfare, so soon after the big announcement. So she swooped in to redirect the narrative.
Gladys doesn't give half a crap about that child, or any of the G kids. Her obsession is only with TFW, and she's probably waiting with bated breath for her thank you.
GollyGee (#7), and notice how Gladys has protected her OWN children's privacy (if they exist) all these years, but feels free to post a picture of someone else's kid? A boy whose challenges may actually be made worse by more unwanted attention like Gladys'?
Yes, I always thought it was unsafe for little Alexis to sleep in the basement unless Jon was actually there too...she was said to wake up the other kids early which gave Hannah migraines...but I mentioned this a couple of days ago...the new bedroom for the boys in Room Swap was far away from Kate's, and a whole episode was filled around its construction. Could Collin have suddenly needed a separate bedroom so soon after that? Was it a sham bedroom remodel? I don't know what to think. How cruel to reveal this 'man cave' for the boys and then snatch Collin's part of the room away.IIRC Collin was missing for bits and pieces of this episode.
Milo says Collin is "Kind of in the public eye right now...." Really Milo "right now"? This sad little fellow has been in the public eye since birth. Did it ever occur to her that this is likely a huge part of his problem. If she and TFW don't insist on that comment and picture be taken down, both of them should be ashamed (if that's possible) for drawing further world attention to Collin's needs at this time. Loathsome women - both of them.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 158 Tamara! There was a nice Tamara here back in the day and a cranky one. You sound like the nice one. :)
-------- Ha! Yeah, there was someone, probably of the sheeple persuasion, who was using my name. They were more of a crank than cranky if I recall.
Sadly, after reading your recaps and watching a few clips the first thought that came to me wasn't that Collin was violent towards others but that he was suicidal.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 15 Localyocul (#9), it was A that TFW claimed was sleeping in the basement, because she was a "bat" and disrupted people at night. But then I think that was debunked when we found out Jon was actually sleeping in the basement.
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Why would you call your daughter a "bat"? It sickens me that she can do anything she wants, calls anyone anything she wants, without any hesitation.
But she keeps on prospering. The worse the situation is, she keeps on prospering. C is shipped off and she keeps on filming for money, even though her family is severely fractured!
It will come to a head sooner or later. This is the biggest can of worms she has opened in a looooong time.
When they revealed the boy's basement room, all 3 boys were there and they each had a private box in the wall for their secret stash. Was the extra room already to go and this was just a smokescreen and C wasn't able to stay in the room with his brothers?
Or did something happen right after that and he was put in another room? Or is she just lying again?
I wonder if the deck had something to do with this. Remember, IIRC, she said the deck was for her kids health and welfare? How does that fit with C? Did she want the deck so he would have a nice place to sit and observe his brothers and sisters swimming and he couldn't participate?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 17 Oh, I get it...Gladys was worried that the new puppy post would make TFW seem unconcerned about C's welfare, so soon after the big announcement. So she swooped in to redirect the narrative. ******* I'm glad Kate finally looks like she cares about her pets, I really am. It was disturbing, to say the least, to see Kate scoff at the thought of her puppies and bitch about spending money to save Nala's life. But, my heart breaks now, knowing about Colin. Seeing Kate so all consumed with her new shiny toys has turned a bit cringe-worthy for me.
I could be wrong, but on the room reveal, I swear Collin was not with hte other kids when they came home and Kate was excited to surprise them (snark) and also in the corridor he was absent. But yes, he was there to see the room which was very nice and definitely built for three boys.
Well at least one of the sheeple is rallying behind Milo. Here are the comments for Milo's post from nick_moy (not typos on my part). It's apparent that the negative comments from XXXX have been removed. ======== His is a very handsome young man, everyone have challenges when they are growing up and all handle them differently. I am so glad that someone took the opportunity to huddle people around this lad to support him. I hope someday when or if he reads about himself on the internet he will see a lot of people LOVE him and ESPECIALLY his MOM and his 7 other siblings. (all that's really matters) And let's think /think /pray that Mom and the 7 siblings are holding up well.
XXXXX Have you looked at yourself. You are only following miloandjack2016 to harass her. You are such an idiot. Have to seen all the negative remarks about him and his mother. At least there is someone who is sticking up for him. Can you make sense of Anything?
Like I said..LOOK at yourself..what give you the right to think what's best for this boy.. did you become GOD to judge everyone? The haters like you started by dragging the mother and kid through the mud.. without knowing anything. Then you have the BALLS to say other have no Clue? I always say a empty drum makes most noise.
XXXXXI am done with you. J You are now talking to my knee.. ======== Milo's Response to nick:
Thanks nick_moy for all your positive remarks! Her son has gotten so much attention in not the best way because of trolls & uninformed people who ALWAYS seek to cast shade on every move @kateplusmy8 makes for the benefit of her children! I wanted to honor him...draw attention to the wonderful fine young man he is! There is absolutely no shame in getting specialized education to meet his needs! He's a trooper...a hard worker...talented in so many ways! This decision Kate made will open new doors for him! Lets' applaud both parent and child here! ======== OK, this is me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven’t the "trolls" and "uninformed people" been overwhelmingly behind Collin in saying that TFW never should have made this public knowledge. I don't think any "hater" has dragged Collin through the mud. These sheeple need to get a clue.
Anonymous said... 20 Milo says Collin is "Kind of in the public eye right now...." Really Milo "right now"? This sad little fellow has been in the public eye since birth. ***** Go and look back at all the photos of Colin covering his face when photogs were around him and his family. It's heartbreaking that Kate didn't stop the fame train right there and then. Pitiful. I didn't believe the story about Colin acting out in school when school pictures were being taken. I thought it was being blown out of proportion, but now, I can believe that he had a melt down and couldn't calm himself when he was made to sit in front of a school photo camera. I wonder if he thinks very black and white. Colin wouldn't cross a hose or walk on grass for fear of getting dirty. His world, is perhaps, very rigid.
DH and I know a young boy/teen who is on the upper end of the spectrum. He is bothered by noise and commotion. Even sharp, hard noises like dragging a chair across a floor is noxious to him. He's doing really well with therapy and meds. He knows his triggers and employs behavioral and cognitive mechanisms to ameliorate the offending stimuli, such as removing himself from a bunch of yaking adults and going somewhere quiet. He also is heavily into his (high exertion) sport, and by the heavy effort, exercise and focus he puts into it, he gets amazing benefits that lasts days. His parents have worked really hard to find what works for him, and they have turned things around with the help of many professionals, and a change of schools. They also love on their kids like nobody's business and see each one of them as individuals, separate from themselves.
Milo is really a piece of work. Apparently a "hater" made some comments on her post, and a sheeple was defending both Kate and Milo. The "haters" remarks were deleted, and then Milo weighed in, stating:
"miloandjack2016 Thanks nick_moy for all your positive remarks! Her son has gotten so much attention in not the best way because of trolls & uninformed people who ALWAYS seek to cast shade on every move @kateplusmy8 makes for the benefit of her children! I wanted to honor him...draw attention to the wonderful fine young man he is! There is absolutely no shame in getting specialized education to meet his needs! He's a trooper...a hard worker...talented in so many ways! This decision Kate made will open new doors for him! Lets' applaud both parent and child here!"
No, Milo, Collin has gotten so much attention, because his mother put it out there for public consumption.
Stating that "he's a trooper, hard worker, etc." is Milo's way of acting like an insider. I like how she says Kate's decision will open "new doors" for Collin. It already has--right out of the Gosselin household.
Notice how she also includes @kateplusmy8 in both her posts. She's hoping Kate will commend her for sticking up for her. However, Kate has never commented on Milo's instagram account--but Milo will keep trying.
I wonder if the deck had something to do with this. Remember, IIRC, she said the deck was for her kids health and welfare? How does that fit with C? ***** It makes about as much sense of spending untold bags of money on suing Jon for the safety of her kids. Is it any wonder some kids want nothing to do with Jon. Mom had to sue Dad to protect them, so he must be dangerous, right? What's a kid supposed to think when their mother not only does this, but goes on national television and other media to tell the world she is protecting you from your dad.
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I still am really curious where exactly this extra room was. She said "his own room", not separate bedroom.
He wasn't sharing a bedroom with his brothers. So exactly where was he?
Anyone think the bedroom remodel was a cover for moving Collin upstairs by himself someplace? He was never intended to have that nice new bedroom with his brothers?
If so, beyond cruel... no wonder he seemed so detached the last few episodes.
“Over the past year or so, Collin had such a different schedule — different schooling, different therapies, his own room — that his leaving wasn’t like one day he was sharing a room and on the bus with them and then suddenly he wasn’t,” Kate said.
Does anyone else get the feeling that Kate's new friend "Nick Moy" is really Milo???? I would bet money on it!!!! Going to be interesting reading the post from those 2 now because Milo thinks she is so smart and she will mess up being 2 people now!!!
So here's K8's official comment to the question I posted above (#11):
kateplusmy8I IG pics of my kids as they allow me to...lol! My kids are at school now and my dogs are at home so I tend to post more of them... And sometimes some of kids and dogs! Sorry if my dogs have almost totally taken over my IG! #Oops #ButICantHelpIt @elifdmts
"As they allow me to." Don't know as I give that much credence. The puppies and dog pix have all been a carefully calculated PR play, that's all I know. This particular has almost 2K hearts and 22 comments. Something's not computing.
And here's Milo's explanation of why she just had to post the photo of Collin (7 hearts and 11 comment, hmmm):
miloandjack2016Thanks nick_moy for all your positive remarks! Her son has gotten so much attention in not the best way because of trolls & uninformed people who ALWAYS seek to cast shade on every move @kateplusmy8 makes for the benefit of her children! I wanted to honor him...draw attention to the wonderful fine young man he is! There is absolutely no shame in getting specialized education to meet his needs! He's a trooper...a hard worker...talented in so many ways! This decision Kate made will open new doors for him! Lets' applaud both parent and child here!
nick_moy@miloandjack2016 Very well said.. Kate needs more people like you to battle/ fight off these trolls. It kinda make me sad to see Kate or Mady going public to defend themselves all the time.
This nick_moy has been commenting multiple times on everything Kate posts on IG. Either a paid shill or serial sycophant. I find it curious what he says about Mady here. Mady doesn't "go public" without Mommy's say-so and script in hand. Is he that dumb?
Another thing with the boys room episode was when they went shopping for a bureau and it was mentioned that Collin always made sure he got the boxer underwear, and he was mortified. I think it was Alexis that was with him then. I also could not believe that 3 boys shared 1 dresser in that big old house. And Mady wanted her own room and voila! The younger girls lost their room and had to move to Mady and Cara's room so Mady could be accommodated. I can hardly wait to see the car.
And to further embarrass those icky boys by saying their room and bathroom smelled like boy. I hate to say what she smells like.
I don't think the deck had anything to do with Colin. It's plain greed from Kate and I guess a plot for an episode. I don't know where C's separate room would be. I don't know the house well enough.
@Diane That Nick person is the same person who was comparing Kate's 80k followers to jon's 1k followers and using that as proof more people love Kate.If you see Kate's recent photo's comments,you'll see them being Kate's IG bodyguard and going after anyone who criticizes her.I took a look at their IG and i notice they have a quote that sounds like a quote Milo would share with Kate which is this."Never Judge.. No one knows the whole story and if you don't know, don't fabricate one".
No, Nick Moy, TFW doesn't need more people to fight her battles when she's the one who starts them. She's reaped the rewards of exploiting 8 minor children for more than a decade, but with that comes some people who will continue to question her judgment. If she doesn't like what people say about her, let her deal with it herself. Gladys' constant defense only makes TFW seem weak and helpless. And people who can swing toddlers by the hair and slam them into cribs are neither.
It is just weird Nick shows up to help Milo defend Kate and pep talk her, I looked at Nick's profile thing, lol, and that dogs face is something I can picture Milo looking like. Just to have never heard of this person before and now he knows so many details (and relays them, like Milo!)Maybe Milo thinks Kate will develop a crush on her new male friend (Which Milo probably really is anyway and can finally meet Kate... since she is a guy!). I am thinking too much! Just my 2 cents worth.
Nick might very well be one of the Twitter fans with a different name - Goody, Sage, Ziggy, CJ, Barb, Carlene....there are still plenty who think Kate's just peachy.
Well, that service someone posted on Milo's IG turned out to be fake, but there are many others. This one says, "Order anywhere from 1,000 to 40,000 Instagram followers that are guaranteed for life!" mysocialfollowing.com/ instagram
An encomium from a satisfied customer:
"The Service is perfect. Its easy , fast and save. I would buy there anytime again :)"
New to posting, but a long-time reader...does anyone know what happened to Redbird? I enjoyed her posts and haven't seen any from her in quite a while, and hope she is okay. Thanks to Admin and everyone who participates on this blog - I always feel like I am "talking" to old friends when I read here:-)
Jane said... 41 Nick might very well be one of the Twitter fans with a different name - Goody, Sage, Ziggy, CJ, Barb, Carlene....there are still plenty who think Kate's just peachy.
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I'm positive it is it's a brand new account with one follower who follows 9 accounts.
Diane said... 40 It is just weird Nick shows up to help Milo defend Kate and pep talk her, I looked at Nick's profile thing, lol, and that dogs face is something I can picture Milo looking like
@Diane Actually i remember Milo posted that dog picture in a old post of her whining to TLC for new episodes of Kate back on May 26,can't link the actual tweet but here is what it was with the picture Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
Ok @TLC We are getting impatient & a lil grumpy waiting for#KatePlus8 to return! Tell us WHEN please! @Kateplusmy8
Diane said... 32 Does anyone else get the feeling that Kate's new friend "Nick Moy" is really Milo???? ******* Interesting that Nick's profile picture is the same picture that Milo tweeted on May 26th. Hmmmm, I don't think it is Milo, it may be another of the sheeple. Or it could be a hater in disguise?
PeppaP said... 43 New to posting, but a long-time reader...does anyone know what happened to Redbird? I enjoyed her posts and haven't seen any from her in quite a while, and hope she is okay. Thanks to Admin and everyone who participates on this blog - I always feel like I am "talking" to old friends when I read here:-)
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IIRC, Admin said awhile back that she had heard from Redbird and all was good, just taking a break. I am sure that Redbird appreciates your thoughts. ;)
I was a long time lurker and I enjoyed Redbird's post too!
Tonight on All Things Considered on NPR they interviewed Gene Wilder's grandnephew. He said they would all go out to dinner at family type restaurants and kids would still recognize Wilder. The kids would be in awe and then so happy to see him. Wilder didn't want those kids' smiles ever taken away. He thought if his disease was public parents would keep the kids away from him or say how sad he's sick. So he wanted it private. They sounded like a close, loving family.
Milo says Collin is "Kind of in the public eye right now...." Really Milo "right now"? This sad little fellow has been in the public eye since birth. Did it ever occur to her that this is likely a huge part of his problem.
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This is the part where I just shake my head. Per Kate, she has attributed this problem to not having a father. Without even going into all the B.S. about that like the parental alienation, even if TRUE, why wouldn't you also attribute his problems to a narcissistic mother, or filming and being a child celeb.
Why is she so sure of the causation here? And where is her proof of the causation?
Yes, I always thought it was unsafe for little Alexis to sleep in the basement unless Jon was actually there too...
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That reminds me, I was going to say it seems to me her pattern with problem children is to isolate them out from the pack. I have been suspicious from day one whether Collin really needs a separate bedroom, or if that just made it "easier" on Kate. My money is on the latter.
Milo is a real pest when it comes to trying to change the narrative. I see how she has twisted things around by saying there is no shame in getting help for these issues!
No one, not a single person, ever suggested it's shameful to get help for special needs or anything at all. That is NOT the issue and she darn well knows it.
Oh and also by raising the issue of "shame" she is implying that those who say she should have kept this quiet are saying so because this is shameful. Saying something should be private is not the same thing as saying you should be ashamed.
FlimsyFlamsy......I am not that Diane...I have been silently reading here for at least 4 years...finally had to speak. Thanks for the welcome. I am in middle Georgia, possibly near Milo!!I look for her all the time, and when I finally see a crazy looking woman..or man walking dogs out in the woods, I will let ya,all know!!!😉
If I'm remembering right, there was an extra bedroom available for Collin. During the room swap, the boys moved to the basement, the girl tups got the twins old room, and the twins were moved into their own rooms in the space the tups previously lived in. That part of the house had three bed/two bath.
It might have been a recommendation for Collin to have his own bedroom. Maybe he needs more control over his space and possessions rather than sharing with two others who can disrupt that. Perhaps he needs a place just to get away from all the chaos in that house. All the screaming and shoving in that house would sent me over the edge and I don't have any diagnose-able problems.
I think the artist banner that goes with this blog says a lot, Collin with his hands over his face! How many years have so Many concerned people been trying to help the kids? I hope the kids are able to read this blog someday and get some consolation that a group of caring people tried to help them and understand the damage that TLC and everyone connected to putting them on display cause them, robbing them of a Normal childhood.
Deliverence said... 62 All the screaming and shoving in that house would sent me over the edge and I don't have any diagnose-able problems. ______
I couldn't watch a full episode of K+8. Too chaotic. Too much shouting. Made want to climb the walls.
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That's the thing about her show. Chaotic fun? Really? Lots of chaos, but I rarely saw a happy kid or kids who seemed to be enjoying being together, laughing, whatever. Lots of snide comments about one another---and Mommy---but not a whole lot of affection or enjoyment. If this is the "realest reality," it's pretty depressing.
I have also found watching the episodes that feature chaos, which is most of them, jarring. It is not fun or entertaining to witness it.
I'm a very low key person around the house and I was raised by mostly calm people who spoke to children in indoor voices and punished calmly and respectfully. There are no screamers in my family. That chaos drives me bonkers. I also think I am quite sensitive to it, more than the average person. I don't enjoy loud noises like fireworks or concerts. Yelling and screaming gives me anxiety. For anyone sensitive to that like Collin must be, that house must be hell.
I actually believe her the kids won't let her post photos of them on instagram. But that begs the question if they don't like their photos pleasured all over 80k mostly fake followers, why would they agree to film for 1.2 million mostly real viewers?
See, I think they're still not quite realizing the scope of this show. It's harder for a kid to quantify when you can't really see or interact with TV viewers like you do on social media. They can SEE all the likes and comments on instagram and that freaks out a kid going through the teen years. And it seems like for kids these days social media is their only point of reference.
I think we're coming into the most interesting time for this family in years, where the kids are finding their voices. In terms of the future I think it will be important for them to know there are people there who care about protecting children's privacy. At some point they are going to need their feelings validated by someone, as all former child stars likely want.
Well autocorrect changed plastered to pleasured. Yuck! I wasn't implying there's something sexual about instagram, although I'm sure some people get their jollys off looking at children's photos.
I wonder if she really does know it. She has no critical thinking ability. Her brain isn't wired like a normal person, and I think that when you're so far into celebrity worship, you have no control over your thinking and in your mind you twist everything around so the object of your adulation looks like a hero. With her, it's really difficult to tell what she really knows and how much is delusional and a figment of her imagination when it comes to defending Kate. She has convinced herself that Kate walks on water and nothing will ever change that opinion.
Admin (#165), I first read this as "I was raised mostly by clam people." Boy, and we thought the G kids had it bad being raised by a shrew!
I, too, am hypersensitive to noise. I often leave my phone on vibrate, because even the lowest ringtone can startle me if I'm concentrating on something else. I wouldn't last 5 minutes at Gosselin Manor.
I, too, am hypersensitive to noise. I often leave my phone on vibrate, because even the lowest ringtone can startle me if I'm concentrating on something else. I wouldn't last 5 minutes at Gosselin Manor.
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I hate the sound of a ringing cell phone that's not answered. Car alarms drive me nuts. My fridge makes a high pitched beeping noise if the door is not fully closed. Makes me cringe and go running to shut it! And of course, fighting, screaming chaos is not something I handle well. I simply don't go to concerts. I may have overly sensitive hearing, or heck, maybe I'm on the spectrum. In any case, it breaks my heart for a kid who doesn't have the choice to have a calmer environment to exist in.
Yeah, I know I'm hypersensitive to this but I just don't think that high stress environment is good for any child and certainly for someone who "feels" it more, how unpleasant.
If he is on the spectrum, it can be almost painful to live like that. Bad behavior could be the only way he knows how to react. He may find being away from home liberating.
I wonder if she really does know it. She has no critical thinking ability. Her brain isn't wired like a normal person, and I think that when you're so far into celebrity worship, you have no control over your thinking and in your mind you twist everything around so the object of your adulation looks like a hero. With her, it's really difficult to tell what she really knows and how much is delusional and a figment of her imagination when it comes to defending Kate. She has convinced herself that Kate walks on water and nothing will ever change that opinion.
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That's fair. My sense of her though is that this is deliberate. That she deliberately changes the subject, twists things around to suit herself and Kate, and plays victim. She moves the target around while you're trying to shoot because she does not play fair, that's just her M.O.
I think she is more manipulative and much less just generally out of it. And I think that's one reason she loves Kate so much, because Kate does the same thing, Kate operates socially the same....exact....way.
I cannot even imagine having to be around someone who's always trying to spin everything to their advantage. You couldn't get an objective story from Kate if you tried.
Oh WOW Admin! You were so tuned in to the Gosselins. I'm talking years ago! Your blog picture shows Collin with his hands covering his face. How sad he did not receive proper care way back when. Enough said. There are no words!
I doubt Collin would have a private room at this school, although that makes sense. I think Kate just wanted to segregate him from the others for some reason.I also agree the overwhelming noise and everyone talking at once would be torture. I also dislike loud, unexpected or continuous noise.
Sandi said... 72 Oh WOW Admin! You were so tuned in to the Gosselins. I'm talking years ago! Your blog picture shows Collin with his hands covering his face. ******** Don't forget the money on the banner. Kate has been a profiteer for years, making money off her divorce, her kids' struggles and pain, and now Colin's challenges. It's sickening and I don't get how her fans don't see that this is no different from when Kate herself decried that Kevin and Jodi were making "blood money". What do you call it when you sell your children's problems and challenges to the media, for profit? (yes, I know People doesn't pay for interviews, but they pay for photos and that's the same darn thing when you package the two together)
I think Gladys is very sly, saying that TFW has nothing to be ashamed of, getting help for C. She knows darn well the angry response is that people think TFW is too lazy, impatient, self-centered and mean to try to deal with C's issues in a less drastic way. She can read the comments with her own eyes, and has likely scoured every last online reference of the situation since it broke. Like her true love, she is not especially bright, but is awfully cunning.
Oh, no, I've just told Gladys that she and TFW are a lot alike. Probably made her day.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 66 I actually believe her the kids won't let her post photos of them on instagram. But that begs the question if they don't like their photos pleasured all over 80k mostly fake followers, why would they agree to film for 1.2 million mostly real viewers? ******* I think it's been ingrained in the kids that the show is Mommy's livelihood, and without it, everything goes away. That's been very tangible to them, from losing their home, their school, their fun, their toys, their pool, their travel and their pets. Anything outside of that isn't necessary for earning their keep.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 75 I think Gladys is very sly, saying that TFW has nothing to be ashamed of, getting help for C. ____ I haven't seen anyone saying she should be ashamed of getting him help. Exploiting his issues by publicly exposing them in People, now that's a different story.
Hey, what happened to TFW's claim that if one kid doesn't want to film, they'll end the show? I guess technically she could claim that C would still like to film, but she's had to send him away. And the show must go on...poke, dab... C would want it that way.
I'm surprised that none of the fans have floated the theory that now TFW will need to film more than ever, because of the huge expense for C's treatment. She can never get a mediocre ol' nursing job now. And her ex, Douchey McLoser, not only doesn't pay child support, but won't even spring for a ham sandwich when whatever kids can tolerate him are in his care. #K8+Bills#WimpyBoyPays0#MomGr8Provider
I haven't seen anyone saying she should be ashamed of getting him help. Exploiting his issues by publicly exposing them in People, now that's a different story.
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No, of course no one has said that.
That's why I'm saying, she's a master at manipulation. She knows everyone is saying Kate shouldn't have made this public. But her only way to spin it around against us is to say we're saying that because we think this is shameful, that we're saying Kate should not say anything out of shame.
It's cunning, and I don't see how she could have fallen into it. She knows what she is doing.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 65 I have also found watching the episodes that feature chaos, which is most of them, jarring. It is not fun or entertaining to witness it. ******* Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids. Katie looked obviously distressed to witness the pushing and hitting and asked Kate how she handled the siblings fighting, and Kate just shrugged and said she lets them work it out themselves. All Lord of the Flies like.
That's the thing about her show. Chaotic fun? Really? ****** At the ages the kids are now, the chaos should be coming from running them around to their activities, with their busy schedule. Not from them fighting, yelling, hitting and generally being surly to one another. That's what you'd expect with 5-year olds.
I'm surprised that none of the fans have floated the theory that now TFW will need to film more than ever, because of the huge expense for C's treatment.
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@Admin it also needs to be said about Milo that even she has given hints where she really doesn't know,despite her trying to convince people that she knows what goes on.When Kate started uploading puppy pictures,milo made a comment saying"You're now officially an animal lover,no doubt about it".She pretty much admitted in that sentence that even she had doubts about the stuff Kate does.So yeah,i think she also does it just to bait and annoy the haters as well.
Wasn't there some talk long ago that the reason Collin was covering his eyes was that he'd been treated badly by TFW for happily waving and saying hi to one of the paps? Someone he was familiar with because he'd spent time with the guy (via Jon)?
I can't remember if it was supposedly Robert, or some other fellow.
But the talk was that he was covering his eyes so that he wouldn't get into trouble for making eye contact with the paps, or being friendly to them.
Of course there's no shame in her getting help. However it would be a shame if he doesn't really need to go away and she is just sending him away because it's easier for her and so that she can film.
But the talk was that he was covering his eyes so that he wouldn't get into trouble for making eye contact with the paps, or being friendly to them. August 30, 2016 at 8:26 AM ***** Yeah, poor guy was made so afraid of the "P people" that he covered his face as to not look at them. It must have been so confusing that filming was/is their life (hey, Kate's words,not mine!), and that involves cameras in their faces all the time, but other people with cameras are BAD. I can imagine it must have been terrifying to go out to the bus stop or anywhere with Kate when they were all tabloid darlings.
Just when I thought I was done with the Gosselin mess I'm compelled to fly back into the fray. That witch has sold her soul along with her children. That she is using her son's difficulties to stay in the limelight is lower than I ever imagined she would go. We saw her banish everyone who challenged or disagreed with her -- Jon, Aunt Jodi, Beth, her whole family -- but strangely never considered she would do the same to one of her children. I hope C is getting the love, care and attention he obviously never received from his mother. My heart hurts for the seven who remain under her thumb.
I think it's been ingrained in the kids that the show is Mommy's livelihood, and without it, everything goes away. That's been very tangible to them, from losing their home, their school, their fun, their toys, their pool, their travel and their pets. Anything outside of that isn't necessary for earning their keep. ======== I agree Tucker's Mom and I wouldn't put it past her to point at their father and say "He stopped filming and look where he is. Is that what you want for yourselves?"
I didn't realize that Kate likened Colin's inpatient treatment to sending a kid away to college.
“When your kids go to college, do you miss them? Yes, but you reassure yourself that they are getting so much out of it,” Gosselin said. “And that’s the same sort of investment I feel like I’ve made Collin’s future."
So, Kate views this as sending her 12-year old, troubled child off to college. Having watched her for so long, I can't help but think this is a big relief for her. Her quotes in the article come across as so dispassionate, and hell the photos in the People article make her look downright elated.
Tucker's Mom #80...Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids. Katie looked obviously distressed to witness the pushing and hitting and asked Kate how she handled the siblings fighting, and Kate just shrugged and said she lets them work it out themselves. All Lord of the Flies like. ****************** I did chuckle to myself when watching Kate Conye bragging about how the sibs take care of each other and Hannah 'literally gave Alexis the shirt off of her back'. I'm sure she didn't give it quietly. I'm sure there was yelling, pouting, foot stomping, possibly hitting involved in the transfer of that shirt. We've seen it. The bed situation during the New England trip for example. And when they moved their bedrooms around. The 3 girls screaming and yelling and stomping their feet. Those kids are not kind to each other and Kate C. is full of crap if she thinks we believe Hannah just quietly handed over the shirt to Alexis.
kris said... 90 Tucker's Mom #80...Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids. Katie looked obviously distressed to witness the pushing and hitting and asked Kate how she handled the siblings fighting, and Kate just shrugged and said she lets them work it out themselves. All Lord of the Flies like. ****************** I did chuckle to myself when watching Kate Conye bragging about how the sibs take care of each other and Hannah 'literally gave Alexis the shirt off of her back'. I'm sure she didn't give it quietly. I'm sure there was yelling, pouting, foot stomping, possibly hitting involved in the transfer of that shirt. We've seen it. The bed situation during the New England trip for example. And when they moved their bedrooms around. The 3 girls screaming and yelling and stomping their feet. Those kids are not kind to each other and Kate C. is full of crap if she thinks we believe Hannah just quietly handed over the shirt to Alexis.
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Not to mention this was the second photo shoot wardrobe meltdown we've seen from, I think, the same girl. What happened to "you get what you get and you don't get upset"?
Kris, I agree. Hannah and Leah are often mean to Alexis or 'kind' if it benefits them. I also think giving A the shirt off her back was done with bribery of some kind and yes, plenty of drama.
I agree Tucker's Mom and I wouldn't put it past her to point at their father and say "He stopped filming and look where he is. Is that what you want for yourselves?" ****** I have no doubt. Look at Kate's "mediocre" comment. If Kate was willing to go on national tv and say that Jon and his life,and the life he could offer the kids is mediocre, you can only imagine what she's told the kids at home.
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Dmasy said... 94 Hello See Saw. Glad to see your green face!
Tucker's Mom, is that college statement in the article? That comparison and the use of the word investment are so abnormal. ******* Good to see that green face for me, too!!
Here's the HuffPo article that I read. Most comments, again, are not kind to Kate. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-kate-gosselin-decided-to-send-one-of-her-sons-away-to-get-help_us_57bdd7f9e4b0287a6e733546
The thing that sheep don't seem to "get" is that we're upset about Kate going public with Colin's struggles because everyone knows that the People article predictably spawns a veritable cavalcade of media reports, tabloid articles and tv segments. It like setting off a dirty bomb, and Kate damn well knows it.
It was Leah who rebelled at the other photo shoot about her dress. Kate pleaded "I want to reward you." And in the packing for Maine scene, thee tup girls had plenty to say about what they would and wouldn't wear. Leah has become a lot like Hannah who is a lot like Mady who is a lot like Kate....
If Hannah gave Alexis "the shirt off her back", then Hannah didn't like the shirt. The kids battle and melt down and compete all the time--Hannah wouldn't do that unless it benefitted her some way. Give away the shirt you don't like and get one you like better. Too easy. Kate Coyne is just as full of it as Kate G.
People put out a lot of stories about the Gosselins all at once. It's interesting how quickly they disappeared, isn't it? Used to be that Gosselin news was all over the place, trending forever. The whole thing (including Jon's response) was over in about 3 days, and I don't think it was trending anywhere. And I don't know where Milo shops, but People magazine isn't selling out where I live. All the magazine racks are full of them. Sometimes, when there is something really newsworthy on the cover, it sells out--but that's rare. This week, it doesn't look like many have sold at all. Full racks. Full. New hashtag for Milo: #nolongernewsworthy.
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What makes me sad is the fact that wherever Collin's new room is, it's still far away from his mother. The master bedroom in that house is removed from all the others, so it's not like she would be close by to tend to him. I wouldn't be at all surprised it he took one of the rooms upstairs, close to where Cara and Mady were moved. Cara was always very protective of Collin, so maybe having her close by would be a comfort to him. Cara always seemed to be the one there to comfort him, which makes me think he has had anxiety issues for a long time. I remember one episode (I think when the camera crew showed up after the divorce hiatus), Cara came up behind Collin and put her arms around him as the crew came in the door. I think the same thing happened when Katie Couric and her camera crew showed up. And when you consider all the times he put his hands over his face when there were cameras around, it seems likely that cameras do cause him great anxiety.
I truly hope that that's not the reason he was sent away--due to anxiety over cameras and filming. Considering that Jon was banished when he became an obstacle to filming, it's not hard to imagine that kate would do the same thing to Collin. She chose filming over Jon, would she do the same to Collin? Sadly, I think she would. People are expendable to her, filming is not.
Layla, I also remember on the RV trip, there was mention of Cara and Collin being "C" friends and did Lego building together as their special 'thing" (However Cara was behaving deplorably to Jamie's son Clay who was at the Lego table)
Also didn't Collin write "Cara" on his Christmas list once? I think this whole thing must be very hard for her.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 65 I have also found watching the episodes that feature chaos, which is most of them, jarring. It is not fun or entertaining to witness it. ******* Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids. Katie looked obviously distressed to witness the pushing and hitting and asked Kate how she handled the siblings fighting, and Kate just shrugged and said she lets them work it out themselves. All Lord of the Flies like.
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Remember Tucker's at the end of the Katie Couric Gosselin Gang Update Special, Kate and Katie were in the living room with each a GLASS OF WINE and they were toasting.
I could not believe what I was seeing after I saw the kids fight, spit, knock, scream, push, and arguing.
I haven't watched Katie Couric's talk show since then!
Mel said... 84 Wasn't there some talk long ago that the reason Collin was covering his eyes was that he'd been treated badly by TFW for happily waving and saying hi to one of the paps? Someone he was familiar with because he'd spent time with the guy (via Jon)?
I can't remember if it was supposedly Robert, or some other fellow.
But the talk was that he was covering his eyes so that he wouldn't get into trouble for making eye contact with the paps, or being friendly to them.
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I think the picture of TFW popping Colin in the face when they were at the bus pickup is when she punished him for saying hi to a friendly pap.
She couldn't let that happen! The kids being friendly with the paparazzi? Then she would look like a liar! Because she always said that they were the devil and a huge problem.
That poor little boy had to make the decision to cover his eyes so he wouldn't upset his own mother.
It is not right for a small child to have to do a pre-emptive strike to not upset his mother.
Kate deliberately broke Collin. It took years for her to learn that he was struggling, and 12 years before she admitted he needed outside professional help. A normal parent would have begun some sort of intervention and therapy for Collin, and perhaps some of the others too, way before now. But the show must go on and Bad Mom is a "stah".
lol, and when the tug-o-war turned into real spitting, hissing,whining war, Katie said "uh, maybe this was not a good idea!" I believe it was Mady who was the party pooper on that event.
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Yep she compared it to college. She's cold. How can you possibly compare the two? We're talking about an 18 year old adult, it's consensual and a wonderful payoff for 13 years of hard work and it's the usually one of the most exciting times in a child's life. The world is ahead of them. No matter how good the treatment program how can a 12 year old feel that same kind of joy and hope and excitement about the future? If anything this is the most anxious and uncertain time for this young boy.
Just the sight of the 7 Gosselins on People's cover is too much to bear. I did notice that NONE had been purchased! Poor Colin. Praying he gets the help he needs. My question is, "What about the help his mother needs?" That woman appears to remain Teflon coated. I swear. Isn't this enough to wake up the fans? Tough to even imagine the destruction to their lives due to their mother's quest for fame and fortune! Going on for years now.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 111 Yep she compared it to college. She's cold. How can you possibly compare the two? ***** Many 18-year olds aren't quite ready to move from home and be away from their family. Heck, some kids can't handle sleep-over camp for a week or two. It's a really big thing for a 12-year old. I just really hope that Jon can work with Colin, in this program, and be there for him. He needs his dad.
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This comment seems all the more ridiculous in light of recent events. This family is going through a major life change, something really difficult for normal people--the last thing they need right now is to be filming and churning out episodes. Yet all this creepy fan cares about is when is she gonna get her fix. Wth!
LaLaLandNoMore (113) Same here! The racks of People magazine are full. Very full. I think Milo is lying about it selling out. She just wants to use this as an opportunity to suck up to Kate.
Isn't it interesting how, after People put out all those Gosselin stories (what was it, 3?) in rapid succession, the news blew over so quickly. The stories were gone after 3 days (including Jon's response), It used to be that Gosselin news was trending everywhere forever. I didn't see any of this trending at all.
@Admin that was an old tweet milo made back in may.I was pointed out how that picture of the sad puppy was the same as that Nick person's profile picture.
How preposterous to compare C's situation to going away to college. Sheesh, I know 12-year-olds who still sleep with a lovey. An 18-year-old CHOOSES to go to college, or at least has quite a bit of input in the decision. It's a time of new (and often tentative) independence, and age-appropriate separation from family. How in the world does that scan with sending your 12-year-old away -- especially from a notoriously clannish family in which he was seen and spoken of as a member of a 6 pack since he was in the womb?
ow in the world does that scan with sending your 12-year-old away -- especially from a notoriously clannish family in which he was seen and spoken of as a member of a 6 pack since he was in the womb? ***** It doesn't. Anyone with 2 brain cells know that sending a child away to an inpatient treatment center is NOTHING like sending a child away to college. This is pure Kate PR spin. I wonder if TLC is still managing her PR. This is not slapping lipstick on a pig like making Kate go to FAO Scharz to buy her stinky boys some toys, instead of letting her do what she really wants like going to Nobu. It's how blithely Kate talks about it that leaves me cold. Sure, we miss him, but you know, I think I'm spending my money wisely so he can be the best he can be. Anyone who knows anything about treating the family's "patient" knows that the entire family is actually the patient and in need of treatment. Colin can't come back to the same dysfunction and chaos. I frankly don't think he should ever have to be filmed again, or made to address his situation publicly.
Tucker's Mom (#118), I can't help but think that TFW will continue the exploitation of this on the show. Can't you just see a Very Special Episode about C coming back home, or even for a visit? TFW poking and dabbing her way through party prep to celebrate C's return? As positively insane as that sounds, there is no adult who would put their foot down to say no -- not TLC, and certainly not C's famewhore gestational carrier. I would think the facility would object, but as we know, "no never means no" to TFW. I could see her proceeding with filming, and a la Scarlett O'Hara, worrying about that tomorrow. She is a horrible mother.
jamezvader1194 said... 116 @Admin that was an old tweet milo made back in may.I was pointed out how that picture of the sad puppy was the same as that Nick person's profile picture.
Jacob Roloff hated filming as well. When he turned 18 that was it he said no more and that was it. I think Molly can take it or leave preferring to leave it. She is bright and has a job in finance. The twin boys are in my opinion lazy and with no direction. One of the wives teaches school which is great, and the other one has a religious blog from what is said. Jacob hated his life on film from when he was little. Bless him that he gained his voice and quit.
This was on a local news show recently, Amy Roloff being interviewed. Go to 2:28 to hear what she says about Jacob - http://wjla.com/features/good-morning-washington/amy-roloff-and-april-osteen-simons-share-motivational-message
I was without internet for a couple of days and I'm not caught up with the comments yet, so if this has been suggested, sorry for the repetition. It occurs to me that one reason TFMJG kept Collin from Jon is the possibility that Collin's behavior/functioning was deteriorating and she didn't want Jon to know about it. She was afraid he might do something that would interfere with her continuing to exploit the kids. Just a thought.
Anonymous said... 122 Has anyone seen TFW making the rounds after this latest news? I haven't seen or heard her give any followup interviews which is a first (I think)
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I don't think it's time yet. TLC usually trots her out a few days before they're going to air her show. For me, that's why the People piece coming out without her being on the foreseeable schedule was rather odd.
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It is odd that the People article came out without the show being in the very near future. Usually she's trying to drum up some publicity for upcoming shows. Unless, of course, she's trying to use the publicity to get TLC's attention.
I would be willing to bet she has tried to line up as many talk shows and media appearances as she could find. She would love to cry and play martyr on TV again, just like she did in 2009. It's not her choice that she's not on the shows, and it's not her choice that the show isn't on the air. TLC doesn't want to air K+8, and the talk shows don't want her. Otherwise she'd be everywhere.
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I think you're spot on. The incident we heard about with Hannah last year must have been a catalyst in this whole sorry story---as in, she's NOT going to hide the situation anymore, so something must change. But not anything that would hinder filming, oh no, never that.
GollyGee said... 127 Hey, readerlady, that is a very good point. If that was the situation, Jon could of went to court and shut the filming down and maybe get to see all of the kids with his family court papers.
---- I'm only going off the little that I've read quickly as I've been out of the Gosselin loop, but doesn't Jon already have a court order to see his kids? If he wasn't seeing Collin, and had no idea that his own son was so bad off that he has to be institutionalised that is on him. He had the tools and just left them to rust.
I'm only going off the little that I've read quickly as I've been out of the Gosselin loop, but doesn't Jon already have a court order to see his kids? If he wasn't seeing Collin, and had no idea that his own son was so bad off that he has to be institutionalised that is on him. He had the tools and just left them to rust. *** Hi Tamara. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense at all. We are definitely not hearing the whole story.
My question is, "What about the help his mother needs?" That woman appears to remain Teflon coated. I swear. Isn't this enough to wake up the fans? Tough to even imagine the destruction to their lives due to their mother's quest for fame and fortune! Going on for years now.
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Yes, even if Collin gets the help that he needs and the therapy that can best address his issues, at some point he has to return to her, and she's off her rocker. How can this be good for him? Won't it be a vicious cycle, and he will be back to square one?
I can't remember whether he said this to the public or just to me, but I remember Jon saying that Collin covering his face was something he and Ellen had suggested he do when he was complaining about the paps upsetting him. In light of his special needs it feels especially cruel to throw a pap in his face. Something like that could be very unsettling to a child like that. Any loving parent would want to give them whatever suggestions they could to feel better when that happens.
As I recall, covering his face happened a lot at Jon's, from the pap photos.
Yes, even if Collin gets the help that he needs and the therapy that can best address his issues, at some point he has to return to her, and she's off her rocker. How can this be good for him? Won't it be a vicious cycle, and he will be back to square one?
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And that's why in home treatment is so crucial. It does a child no good to stabilize them out of home only to send them back to chaos and an incapable parent.
There needs to be an in home care plan that Kate needs to be a part of. She's not going to be able to get out of this one. She's going to have to put in the hard work. Isn't she the one who said you get what you get and you don't get upset? This is what she got and she needs to be a grown up and deal with it.
I love her and what she had to say about this. Wonderful: http://www.today.com/popculture/mayim-bialik-gets-real-about-co-parenting-divorce-isn-t-t102287
I worked with what I perceived as one of the best families at co-parenting ever this year. The kids had two daddies and two mommies, there was no "step-parent". They enjoyed being at dad's, they enjoyed being at mom's. No one ever said anything bad about the other. Grandparents were involved, but when they were with the children they focused on the here and now and didn't question them about what's happening at the other parent's. They got therapy when the divorce first happened. They feel special being divorced kids because they get more presents, they brag to their friends. When they were missing their dad because they weren't spending enough time with him, the parents worked it out so they could spend more time. Time was carved out for a long vacation with the parent who didn't have custody during that entire time. Such sweet, well adjusted kids. I was literally choked up hearing all this, and the coolest thing I got to do was praise the parents for raising such great kids.
Mayim doesn't look at the divorce as a negative thing but rather a blessing which give potential for great happiness to grow. I think it's important to view it from that positive perspective. With that though you have to be a grown up and you have to let a lot of stuff go.
Tucker's Mom, is that college statement in the article? That comparison and the use of the word investment are so abnormal.
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Lol Dmasy, there's a lot about her that's abnormal.
I think this goes back to her sociopathic tendencies. She truly can't feel the kind of deep pain a normal person would feel at this situation. She can only try to imagine some other situation where a child goes away, and college came to mind.
She understands going away and that that would make a parent sad. But because she cannot experience normal emotions, she is unable to realize that's a ridiculous comparison and not the same thing at all. To her it's all the same thing though, going away and sad. It really is like watching someone who doesn't experience emotions navigate the rest of the world who does--fascinating.
Has anyone else questioned why Colin would be sent away in the summer, over summer break, when he could be enjoying the down time like the rest of his siblings? It strikes me as interesting that Colin is sent away, in the summer, during summer break, just as Kate gets her (annual) big swath of uninterrupted filming time. Why not get him started in his program when the rest of the kids return to school? Was his admission to this inpatient program *that* pressing, or was it more strategic to remove him as an obstacle so Kate could film and have her puppy show?
Has anyone else questioned why Colin would be sent away in the summer, over summer break, when he could be enjoying the down time like the rest of his siblings?
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It should be very much questioned. That would have been a perfect time to get him stabilized without the chaos of school and other school-year activities. Don't get the puppies this year, don't go on a bunch of trips, stay home and help this boy.
Filming is connected to this, without a doubt. She was not about to cancel filming plans to work with Wrap Around 6 days a week like good parents would. Nor was she about to cancel instagram fodder in the puppies.
This was on a local news show recently, Amy Roloff being interviewed. Go to 2:28 to hear what she says about Jacob - http://wjla.com/features/good-morning-washington/amy-roloff-and-april-osteen-simons-share-motivational-message
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I can't get this to load no matter what I try. Can someone summarize what she said about Jake?
You know what? This entire fiasco of a marriage/family was completely predictable. Narcissistic Kate could only pair with a passive man. She could only tolerate someone she could control & manipulate. We already know she has nuked all other relationships when people fail to 'ask how they can help.' Jon just wasn't & isn't capable of fighting her. He's lost so many battles & been beaten into submission so many times.
Collin just hasn't been able to be beaten into submission. Now, hopefully, he is receiving some help for his 'problem.'Kate thinks the residential center will teach him how to comply, but I think the school will give him the tools to understand that he is fighting with a crazy woman. ie: HE doesn't have the problem, SHE does.
If this school is worth the 100K she's shelling out to get her child to conform, she may very well might be shocked to learn that Collin might just not return to her. He may decide to live with Jon now that he is out of her mind fucking control & I really don't see how anyone could force him.
I've always thought the kids would begin to fail her one after another. After all, nobody can spend they're entire life with her. Everyone is an accessory to Kate. If they don't make her happy they disappear.
Agree with pretty much everything you said. Where did you get 100K/yr for the school, though? Whatever it costs, I don't doubt she's taking it out of C's trust. It's an "investment," ya know.
Kate didn't believe in therapy. She refused to go when John wanted to go for marriage counseling. Of course she had lover boy Steve and had her mind set on divorce anyway, but I think she figured that she knew best - not some therapist who might side with Jon.
That's just an approximate estimate from when I was researching schools for my grandson & comparing facilities. The better the facility, the more they cost. Could be $130,000 or more depending upon the services. These facilities are not inexpensive and the kids are treated really well. My grandson came home & wants to return. He really enjoyed the structure, the one on one therapy, and all of the positive reinforcement.
I've been very busy at work and obsessed with Big Brother and America's Got Talent. Had to stop by after last week's People showed up in the mailbox with TFMJG on the cover. She is as boring as ever. Not sure I believe any statements attributed to the kids in that interview. My dd, the former fan, took one look and summed it up nicely. "FameWhore." See y'all later in September. Gotta check the live feed spoilers for Big Brother and see if the Chen-Bot has given any interviews about it this week.
I don't know why this guy is tweeting a link to this "interview" now, since it's clear it was recorded back when "Blind Date" aired. I never saw it tweeted before. There's nothing new in it, no real questions asked.
PERSEVERANCE NETWORK @PERSEVERANCENET 7m7 minutes ago 11amCT @PERSEVERANCENET #Minnesota @totaltutor with @Kateplusmy8 Star of @TLC Kate Plus 8 https://youtu.be/P4S0Yw-u9xk
MabelD said... 152 Kate didn't believe in therapy. She refused to go when John wanted to go for marriage counseling. Of course she had lover boy Steve and had her mind set on divorce anyway, but I think she figured that she knew best - not some therapist who might side with Jon.
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When Jon begged her to go to marriage counseling in the beginning, she refused, BUT, she said the only marriage counseling she would agree to would be DR. PHIL!
The only reason why she would agree to going to see Dr. Phil is a free trip, hotel, concierge service, Steve going along and getting paid for showing pictures.
She also cheated Dr. Lafair? out of her services after the Dr. suing TFW and winning and then TFW appealed it and she still lost! TFW has never paid her a penny. What Dr. Lafair needs to do is take the judgment and put a lien on the house or one of the sports cars and when it is sold, she can get her money.
Wouldn't that be hilarious when at closing of the selling of Gosselin Land that the clerk says, Um. Uh. There is a lien on the house and 10K plus interest for several years has to be paid before the sale can continue!
"“Kate wanted fame and fortune at any cost,” the source exclusively tells In Touch, explaining that in 2009 — as Jon and Kate’s marriage was crumbling —TLC arranged a mediation in LA, where they made Jon a lucrative offer.
MORE: Jon Gosselin Speaks Out After Daughters Claim He "Doesn't Know Them"
“TLC and Kate agreed that they needed to keep the marriage intact to make the show go on and offered Jon $2 million to sign a contract to stay married for two more years,” the source continued. "Jon was told they could have an open marriage behind the scenes but he refused. He didn’t want to have a fake marriage for a TV show.”
I'm pro-Dad and pro-Jon, but I've run hot and cold on him over the years. That's no secret. However, I've always believed him when he said that Kate did NOT want to fix her marriage, did NOT want to enter into *real* therapy with Jon, and that TLC was scrambling to save the show. That included the sham marriage to Kate, with Kate telling Jon to sign a contract and he could do whatever he wanted, as long as he showed up for filming. Jon, not being a good little boy, defied TLC and went out, partied and met women, and got caught. Now, what was TLC to do? Well, circle their powerful wagons around Kate, save the show, and destroy Jon.
To this day, there are a lot of people who think he left, when he did not. They think he cheated on his wife, when really, the marriage was over and whatever people saw at the time was fakery for filming. I hope the full article includes Jon saying that he's going to see Colin come hell or high water, and get to the bottom of what's been going on. I'm always stymied that people can read about the lengths that Kate Gosselin has gone to in order to keep filming her show, and still think she's a great mother. Nothing gets in Kate's way. Nothing.
I guess the sheeple will now start bleating about how Jon needs money so he's selling stories to the rag mags. My question to them would be what's the difference between that and TFW's people story?
"He should maybe spend some time thinking about why we don't want to see him, and maybe realize that if he ever does want a relationship with us, talking about us on TV is not the way to make that happen."
Wait a minute. Didn't Kate put the girls on television (that Today Show fiasco) to talk about (and bash) Jon?
This is one dysfunctional family. Time to pull the plug for good.
Wait a minute. Didn't Kate put the girls on television (that Today Show fiasco) to talk about (and bash) Jon?
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Of course she did. The girls aren't old enough yet to realize they are being used by Kate, but they will, soon. And it's not going to be pretty. She has accomplished estranging them from their father during the teen years. She may be facing 30 years of at least some of them being estranged from HER once they are adults. Worth it?
justwondering (153) Wow, $130,000 sounds like a lot! My niece is in an elite boarding school, and that's $56,000. I guess the extra cost is for the around-the-clock care and therapy that would be available for troubled kids. Makes me wonder how long Kate can sustain that kind of expense before Collin's trust fund is depleted.
Okay, fellow posters, who was in my neighborhood today? I went up to my local Giant store for some marjoram and while waiting to check out, I noticed that someone had taken copies of Country Living magazine and placed them in front of People magazine in each of the checkout lines. Oh, and the racks of People mag were still full.
Never let it be said that I would stifle anyone's freedom of expression--I left the magazines they way they were and just giggled as I checked out.
Now fess up--who was it? Next time let me know you're here and I'll have you over for tea!
M & C are well into their teen years. And with TFW acting as their mother, BFF, and publicity agent, I think they are getting an intensely warped view of the world. They are quickly approaching dating age, and I shudder to think what tools they have to conduct any sort of successful romantic relationship, or any other kind of connection for that matter.
@Layla The racks were full?But how can that be when milo claims she got the last copy at her store and that they were selling out like crazy where she lives?Clearly as a hater,you must be lying.
What is going to happen to these kids, I wonder, after they leave their little Gosselin bubbleland & have to mingle in the real world? They have been locked in their house & private school for all these years. How in the hell are they supposed to cope with finding out that everyone in the country watched their family crash & burn on TV? It's a million times worse than the Dionne quints because people didn't even have to leave their chair to watch them. Oh, this is not going to end well, I fear.
To this day, there are a lot of people who think he left, when he did not. They think he cheated on his wife, when really, the marriage was over and whatever people saw at the time was fakery for filming.
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That's right. TLC was showing episodes where Jon and Kate were together, but in reality their marriage was over and Jon was living outside the main home (above the garage has been stated) and the footage had been shot earlier, before the split. So people were seeing rag mag photos of Jon going out when the episodes airing had been filmed when they were still together. It's a point the fans either don't understand or refuse to admit.
Now I'm wondering if the People story was Kate trying to manipulate TLC to get back on the air. If she cooked up this cover story with Kate Coyne as a way to get them to put her on the schedule. And I wonder if she overplayed her hand. She's now opened a Pandora's box of crap that I'm sure TLC wasn't counting on having to deal with, stuff that will make them look really bad. On top of which, they already had the Collin "explanation" to sort out.
I would love it if the coming shitstorm---completely put in motion by Her Heinous---brings about the end of K8.
Tucker's Mom said... 136 Hi Tamara. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense at all. We are definitely not hearing the whole story. ------ Hiya back TM. I am a bit blown away by what I've been reading vs what I thought was going on. Wow. I never thought that Jon would let it get this bad. Anyone remember when Mady was a daddy's girl? As for Collin, I don't even know what to say because no real information is out there. Can a parent institutionalise a child for no real reason if they have enough money? Is that even what has happened or is he just going to boarding school? So many questions, so few answers.
What Dr. Lafair needs to do is take the judgment and put a lien on the house or one of the sports cars and when it is sold, she can get her money.
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No, she shouldn't do that or shouldn't have done that. Sylvia Lafair took the high road and walked away. That's exactly what she should have done, and not stooped to Kate's level.
@Layla The racks were full?But how can that be when milo claims she got the last copy at her store and that they were selling out like crazy where she lives?Clearly as a hater,you must be lying.
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I guess the sheeple will now start bleating about how Jon needs money so he's selling stories to the rag mags. My question to them would be what's the difference between that and TFW's people story?
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It would be absolutely futile to ask them any questions that would require logical thinking, so you just kind of grin and bear it to see in what way they would spin it! Then you have a good hearty chuckle about it!
Has an emergency damage control/deflection meeting been called in the barnyard?
I remember when Jon expressed his concern that some of the kids had issues -- anger, socialization, whatever, and Kate went public, firing back that all of the kids are healthy, happy and thriving.
Sure, they were. That's why Collin isn't among the six pack at home anymore.
I bet she can't stand the fact that Jon publicly expressed his concern about this and she refuted it. How do your words taste, Kate, since you had to eat them? Do you prefer ketchup or mustard?
For those who post here and have Kate's number (and have for years), I remain utterly perplexed by how she continues to control the narrative. She says she has been alone dealing with Colin's issues, yet no-one thinks to ask her, "why didn't you involve your ex-husband in your child's behavioural issues and struggles?" It's not an especially tough question, but an obvious one to ask I think. She chose to deal with alone, no one asked her to do this without involving Jon or other family members!
Another part of that article quotes Mady slamming her father for talking about them in public, yet she cannot see what their mother is doing by outing her brother's struggles so publicly.
The parents who part and continue to put their children above their own issues have all of my respect and admiration.
Warmth (#187), TFW sure did get her knickers in a twist over Jon's comments. And she claimed she had to respond because some day her kids would read what he said, and she wanted them to know that she came to their defense. As if he was some random stranger making snide comments, and not the children's own father.
Lady, defending your kids in one stupid statement -- which we now know wasn't even accurate -- won't counteract a decade of exposing their private lives to the masses so you wouldn't have to see another bedpan.
I assure you, they were full. I was a little shocked when I walked down the line and didn't see any People mags. I thought--did they really sell out? Then I lifted up one of the Country Living mags, and saw the People behind it. Looking down the line, I could see that they were all the same--from the side, the spines of the magazines (CL and People) are different. Someone had done the same to each rack. I found it hilarious! Of course, it had to be one of you--you know the only people on the planet who don't adore Kate are the ones who gather here at our beloved little cesspool of hate.
asked her to do this without involving Jon or other family members!
Another part of that article quotes Mady slamming her father for talking about them in public, yet she cannot see what their mother is doing by outing her brother's struggles so publicly.
---- It's called brainwashing. Kate has poisoned Mady's mind (and probably the rest of them) against Jon that they can't see the forest for the trees. It's the one thing that Kate is really, really good at accomplishing.
Mady used to be a nice, sweet kid...a bit spunky and sassy, but now she's turned into a mini-Kate and it's neither an attractive nor positive character trait. It certainly makes her look like a spoiled, mouthy brat.
Do you think that the kids that don't want to see Jon are angry at him for letting them film again? At the time of the clam up interview they were still not filming and they had nothing bad they wanted to say about Jon. Now M is major resentful and, to me, doesn't want to say why. She has NEVER not said what was on her mind, no matter if it was hurtful or not. In fact, she seems to love to say hurtful things. Hummm, sound like someone she knows.
Sad but true said... 181 Now I'm wondering if the People story was Kate trying to manipulate TLC to get back on the air. ***** Possible. I thought that, too. I haven't seen the whole article, but haven't heard that any mention of when her show is due to air was in there. It's only a month away, supposedly. I don't know, but if the reports of recent filming in FL were true (only one sighting, afaik), TLC is still churning out the episodes.
Has an emergency damage control/deflection meeting been called in the barnyard? ****** The barnyard has been all but abandoned. Kate's Twitter has gone from a porn-fest to just the regular haters beating the drum. Kate's old Twitter sheep seem to have jumped ship. There's nothing and no one to rally. I don't think IG is a medium for a love, or hate-fest. End of an era for Kate's Twitter.
I bet she can't stand the fact that Jon publicly expressed his concern about this and she refuted it. How do your words taste, Kate, since you had to eat them? Do you prefer ketchup or mustard?
****** I think Kate let Jon's statement (true as it was) about his kids having challenges really get to her. I think she made a serious miscalculation by blasting Jon's words and downright lying. There's no doubt that Jon spoke the truth, and Kate was once again farting rainbows. Stuff like this, and the now public knowledge that TLC tried to bribe Jon to stay and film that sham marriage is so outrageous, that I don't get how Kate and her show still stand.
If all this stuff about Colin, and the real backstory of the demise of J+K+8 doesn't make people realize how Kate has lied and spun for years, I don't know what will.
Denise @Mydmaxx 38m38 minutes ago @timbertech @Kateplusmy8 @people Saw this photo in magazine and thought what a perfect photo spot! Beautiful lady, deck & background! 😘
Would that be the lesbian deck or the preacher deck, Denise?
Jumping In said... 188 For those who post here and have Kate's number (and have for years), I remain utterly perplexed by how she continues to control the narrative. ****** Amen, me too. This has to be incredible tough on the kids, and nothing so far will stop Kate from filming. It's indecent and abusive.
njay said... 194 Do you think that the kids that don't want to see Jon are angry at him for letting them film again? ******* I sort of do. I wonder if some of the kids are angry that Jon has been passive, or at least, ineffectual. They might be waiting for a grand gesture, for Jon to take the bull by the horns and get past all the obstacles Kate puts in the way. For Jon to put his foot down and save them from having to make the choice between Mom and Dad-for him to make that choice for them. Insisting that he see them might do just that. I think they need to see Jon get MAD, and be on fire for them.
2057 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 2057 Newer› Newest»Here's the link to Milo's post. Google is your friend.
https://instagram.com/p/BJsNZP1Byfr/
NJGal51 (#1), oh, no, she didn't. Line officially crossed. CWS in full effect. Unless it's an imaginary syndrome? Let's check in with Selena's family and get their thoughts.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BJsNZP1Byfr/?taken-by=miloandjack2016
Does Milo ever think that one of the things that bothers Colin is the constant intrusion from cameras and strangers?
She's creepy for posting a pic with a message to him.
I'd want to hide under my covers.
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miloandjack2016A special #ShoutOut to this bright handsome young man! Kind of in the public eye right now...but I'm confident he will take his special talents and work ethics to do well in his new school. He has a devoted Mom and 7 siblings that #LoveHimToTheMoonAndBack!
He is in a place getting tools he needs!He is destined to succeed!
Love from our family to yours!! ❤ @kateplusmy8"
"Kind of in the public eye right now"?
Oh, give me a break! His mother got yet another tabloid magazine cover and splashed the news all over the world, FFS!
Putting Mady's vitriol for own father out there was a ploy to draw even more eyeballs to the fact that Colin is now placed out of the home.
So yeah, that kinda puts Colin out there in the public eye.
Milo makes it sound like "whoopsie!", the world knows about your struggles now.
Under all that folksy job, she really is a manipulative PoS, isn't she? Just like her imaginary BFF.
miloandjack2016A special #ShoutOut to this bright handsome young man! Kind of in the public eye right now...but I'm confident he will take his special talents and work ethics to do well in his new school. He has a devoted Mom and 7 siblings that #LoveHimToTheMoonAndBack!
He is in a place getting tools he needs!He is destined to succeed!
Love from our family to yours!! ❤ @kateplusmy8
Wow Milo. I hope you got permission through your other means of communicatin to post that. What am I saying of course TFW would approve. Disgusting.
Milo posting C's picture.
WHAT THE HECK, MAN!
IT DIDN'T! WHY, WHY, WHY!?!
Oh, that poor child! God bless Colin.
The good thing is that Colin can add Milo to the list of people and corporations to sue when he turns 18. We will finally know who this Milo is.
Sad but true said... 198
The doggie tales continue. IG is curious. Photo posted 4 minutes ago, already has 100 hearts and no comments. I can't figure out how things are counted over there.
kateplusmy8'Please??' 'No. Play with your own chicken. That one is MINE!' #Shoka #Mak #DogConversations
Carole (197), on the previous photo (of Nanuq in the car), I could swear it had upwards on 85 comments at one point and then suddenly early yesterday the number went to 23. I have heard IG takes quick action to take down negative comments, but if that's true, she must be spending half her day on the phone to them, lol. Oh well, guess she has to have something to do.
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Apparently you can remove negative comments from your pictures yourself. I looked it up because I saw the comments about C where people were responding to someone whose post was not there. TFW will love love love IG
Tucker's Mom said... 196
She could enrol him in the computer based version of school and keep him in the basement. Instead we get these weird clues (that may or may not be true). C had his own room, a different schedule. We can see he missed parts of filming.
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The separate bedroom thing was a weird revelation and I think a revealing mistake on Kate's part. Why would Colin be in a separate room unless he was disruptive or dangerous to the other boys, or, frighteningly, he was kept in a separate place to control and isolate him.
IIRC, there are allegations that Kate has locked kids in their bedroom (one of the girls who couldn't get to the bathroom at night).
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Remember when one of the girls slept in the basement for some reason? When they were in the old house...
Jeanne said... 194
I'm really confused about timeline or maybe it's about cause and effect. We know for sure that Colin stopped going to LCDS. We don't know the exact reason.
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And not that long ago, I think Jon said he was being homeschooled...
Comment on Kate's latest IG photo:
elifdmtsYou have 8 kids but you only share your dog? Why is that?
Because her kids are finally realizing they don't have to kowtow to the tyrant anymore.
Tucker's Mom (#4), thanks for posting what Gladys wrote, because I sure as heck wasn't going to click on it. I have no words.
localyocul said... 8
Apparently you can remove negative comments from your pictures yourself. I looked it up because I saw the comments about C where people were responding to someone whose post was not there. TFW will love love love IG
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Aha! So now we know how she'll be spending her many non-filming hours. I imagine, hours-wise, that it'll end up being pretty much a full-time job. Thanks for the info.
She probably has Mady and Cara deleting comments. She's far too busy to do something so ordinary.
Localyocul (#9), it was A that TFW claimed was sleeping in the basement, because she was a "bat" and disrupted people at night. But then I think that was debunked when we found out Jon was actually sleeping in the basement.
And you stated as fact that he has a learning disability and you haven't the foggiest clue whether that's true. You are no different.
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I did not state that as fact. Read again. All I said is that most learning disabilities are not life-threatening. I did not say that's what Collin has, definitively.
Not surprisingly, you have again missed the point and in the process, twisted my words. Milo will say anything to justify Kate sending him away including implying that sweet little boy is violent. All I'm saying is I'd like to assume he is NOT violent and give him every benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, that's all.
Oh, I get it...Gladys was worried that the new
puppy post would make TFW seem unconcerned about
C's welfare, so soon after the big announcement.
So she swooped in to redirect the narrative.
Gladys doesn't give half a crap about that child, or any of the G kids. Her obsession is only with TFW, and she's probably waiting with bated breath for her thank you.
GollyGee (#7), and notice how Gladys has protected her OWN children's privacy (if they exist) all these years, but feels free to post a picture of someone else's kid? A boy whose challenges may actually be made worse by more unwanted attention like Gladys'?
Yes, I always thought it was unsafe for little Alexis to sleep in the basement unless Jon was actually there too...she was said to wake up the other kids early which gave Hannah migraines...but I mentioned this a couple of days ago...the new bedroom for the boys in Room Swap was far away from Kate's, and a whole episode was filled around its construction. Could Collin have suddenly needed a separate bedroom so soon after that? Was it a sham bedroom remodel? I don't know what to think. How cruel to reveal this 'man cave' for the boys and then snatch Collin's part of the room away.IIRC Collin was missing for bits and pieces of this episode.
Milo says Collin is "Kind of in the public eye right now...." Really Milo "right now"? This sad little fellow has been in the public eye since birth. Did it ever occur to her that this is likely a huge part of his problem. If she and TFW don't insist on that comment and picture be taken down, both of them should be ashamed (if that's possible) for drawing further world attention to Collin's needs at this time. Loathsome women - both of them.
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 158
Tamara! There was a nice Tamara here back in the day and a cranky one. You sound like the nice one. :)
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Ha! Yeah, there was someone, probably of the sheeple persuasion, who was using my name. They were more of a crank than cranky if I recall.
Sadly, after reading your recaps and watching a few clips the first thought that came to me wasn't that Collin was violent towards others but that he was suicidal.
And you stated as fact that he has a learning disability and you haven't the foggiest clue whether that's true. You are no different.
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...and the sniping continues from the resident troll. This really wears thin after a while.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 15
Localyocul (#9), it was A that TFW claimed was sleeping in the basement, because she was a "bat" and disrupted people at night. But then I think that was debunked when we found out Jon was actually sleeping in the basement.
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Why would you call your daughter a "bat"? It sickens me that she can do anything she wants, calls anyone anything she wants, without any hesitation.
But she keeps on prospering. The worse the situation is, she keeps on prospering. C is shipped off and she keeps on filming for money, even though her family is severely fractured!
It will come to a head sooner or later. This is the biggest can of worms she has opened in a looooong time.
She is pure evil.
When they revealed the boy's basement room, all 3 boys were there and they each had a private box in the wall for their secret stash. Was the extra room already to go and this was just a smokescreen and C wasn't able to stay in the room with his brothers?
Or did something happen right after that and he was put in another room? Or is she just lying again?
I wonder if the deck had something to do with this. Remember, IIRC, she said the deck was for her kids health and welfare? How does that fit with C? Did she want the deck so he would have a nice place to sit and observe his brothers and sisters swimming and he couldn't participate?
She is mentally unstable and evil.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 17
Oh, I get it...Gladys was worried that the new
puppy post would make TFW seem unconcerned about
C's welfare, so soon after the big announcement.
So she swooped in to redirect the narrative.
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I'm glad Kate finally looks like she cares about her pets, I really am. It was disturbing, to say the least, to see Kate scoff at the thought of her puppies and bitch about spending money to save Nala's life. But, my heart breaks now, knowing about Colin.
Seeing Kate so all consumed with her new shiny toys has turned a bit cringe-worthy for me.
GollyGee said... 24
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I could be wrong, but on the room reveal, I swear Collin was not with hte other kids when they came home and Kate was excited to surprise them (snark) and also in the corridor he was absent. But yes, he was there to see the room which was very nice and definitely built for three boys.
Well at least one of the sheeple is rallying behind Milo. Here are the comments for Milo's post from nick_moy (not typos on my part). It's apparent that the negative comments from XXXX have been removed.
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His is a very handsome young man, everyone have challenges when they are growing up and all handle them differently. I am so glad that someone took the opportunity to huddle people around this lad to support him. I hope someday when or if he reads about himself on the internet he will see a lot of people LOVE him and ESPECIALLY his MOM and his 7 other siblings. (all that's really matters) And let's think /think /pray that Mom and the 7 siblings are holding up well.
XXXXX Have you looked at yourself. You are only following miloandjack2016 to harass her. You are such an idiot. Have to seen all the negative remarks about him and his mother. At least there is someone who is sticking up for him. Can you make sense of Anything?
Like I said..LOOK at yourself..what give you the right to think what's best for this boy.. did you become GOD to judge everyone? The haters like you started by dragging the mother and kid through the mud.. without knowing anything. Then you have the BALLS to say other have no Clue? I always say a empty drum makes most noise.
XXXXXI am done with you. J You are now talking to my knee..
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Milo's Response to nick:
Thanks nick_moy for all your positive remarks! Her son has gotten so much attention in not the best way because of trolls & uninformed people who ALWAYS seek to cast shade on every move @kateplusmy8 makes for the benefit of her children! I wanted to honor him...draw attention to the wonderful fine young man he is! There is absolutely no shame in getting specialized education to meet his needs! He's a trooper...a hard worker...talented in so many ways! This decision Kate made will open new doors for him! Lets' applaud both parent and child here!
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OK, this is me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven’t the "trolls" and "uninformed people" been overwhelmingly behind Collin in saying that TFW never should have made this public knowledge. I don't think any "hater" has dragged Collin through the mud. These sheeple need to get a clue.
Anonymous said... 20
Milo says Collin is "Kind of in the public eye right now...." Really Milo "right now"? This sad little fellow has been in the public eye since birth.
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Go and look back at all the photos of Colin covering his face when photogs were around him and his family. It's heartbreaking that Kate didn't stop the fame train right there and then.
Pitiful.
I didn't believe the story about Colin acting out in school when school pictures were being taken. I thought it was being blown out of proportion, but now, I can believe that he had a melt down and couldn't calm himself when he was made to sit in front of a school photo camera.
I wonder if he thinks very black and white. Colin wouldn't cross a hose or walk on grass for fear of getting dirty. His world, is perhaps, very rigid.
DH and I know a young boy/teen who is on the upper end of the spectrum. He is bothered by noise and commotion. Even sharp, hard noises like dragging a chair across a floor is noxious to him.
He's doing really well with therapy and meds. He knows his triggers and employs behavioral and cognitive mechanisms to ameliorate the offending stimuli, such as removing himself from a bunch of yaking adults and going somewhere quiet. He also is heavily into his (high exertion) sport, and by the heavy effort, exercise and focus he puts into it, he gets amazing benefits that lasts days.
His parents have worked really hard to find what works for him, and they have turned things around with the help of many professionals, and a change of schools.
They also love on their kids like nobody's business and see each one of them as individuals, separate from themselves.
Milo is really a piece of work. Apparently a "hater" made some comments on her post, and a sheeple was defending both Kate and Milo. The "haters" remarks were deleted, and then Milo weighed in, stating:
"miloandjack2016 Thanks nick_moy for all your positive remarks! Her son has gotten so much attention in not the best way because of trolls & uninformed people who ALWAYS seek to cast shade on every move @kateplusmy8 makes for the benefit of her children! I wanted to honor him...draw attention to the wonderful fine young man he is! There is absolutely no shame in getting specialized education to meet his needs! He's a trooper...a hard worker...talented in so many ways! This decision Kate made will open new doors for him! Lets' applaud both parent and child here!"
No, Milo, Collin has gotten so much attention, because his mother put it out there for public consumption.
Stating that "he's a trooper, hard worker, etc." is Milo's way of acting like an insider. I like how she says Kate's decision will open "new doors" for Collin. It already has--right out of the Gosselin household.
Notice how she also includes @kateplusmy8 in both her posts. She's hoping Kate will commend her for sticking up for her. However, Kate has never commented on Milo's instagram account--but Milo will keep trying.
I wonder if the deck had something to do with this. Remember, IIRC, she said the deck was for her kids health and welfare? How does that fit with C?
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It makes about as much sense of spending untold bags of money on suing Jon for the safety of her kids.
Is it any wonder some kids want nothing to do with Jon. Mom had to sue Dad to protect them, so he must be dangerous, right?
What's a kid supposed to think when their mother not only does this, but goes on national television and other media to tell the world she is protecting you from your dad.
The reality tv curse continues.
Ice Road Truckers star Darrell Ward and his co-pilot were killed Sunday afternoon in a plane crash.
“It’s with great sadness to report we have lost our Montana Legend at the young age of 52. Darrell Ward had just left The Great American Truck Show in Dallas, Texas where he enjoyed meeting numerous fans and friends and was heading to Missoula to begin filming a pilot for his new documentary style show involving the recovery of plane wrecks when he and his co-pilot crashed and lost their lives. An investigation is ongoing and more information will be made available at a later time as the National Transportation Safety Board will be handling they investigation.”
The press release goes on to say that the things Darrell Ward loved the most were his family, including his kids, grand-kids, and trucking. Having just finished filming for this season of Ice Road Truckers, he had just discovered that he had a green light to do another season for the popular series, which is set to begin filming in the winter of 2017. When not filming the show, he enjoyed hauling logs and helping fight forest fires when the need arose for his assistance.
http://www.inquisitr.com/3463271/ice-road-truckers-star-darrell-ward-killed-in-plane-crash/
I still am really curious where exactly this extra room was. She said "his own room", not separate bedroom.
He wasn't sharing a bedroom with his brothers. So exactly where was he?
Anyone think the bedroom remodel was a cover for moving Collin upstairs by himself someplace? He was never intended to have that nice new bedroom with his brothers?
If so, beyond cruel... no wonder he seemed so detached the last few episodes.
“Over the past year or so, Collin had such a different schedule — different schooling, different therapies, his own room — that his leaving wasn’t like one day he was sharing a room and on the bus with them and then suddenly he wasn’t,” Kate said.
Does anyone else get the feeling that Kate's new friend "Nick Moy" is really Milo???? I would bet money on it!!!! Going to be interesting reading the post from those 2 now because Milo thinks she is so smart and she will mess up being 2 people now!!!
So here's K8's official comment to the question I posted above (#11):
kateplusmy8I IG pics of my kids as they allow me to...lol! My kids are at school now and my dogs are at home so I tend to post more of them... And sometimes some of kids and dogs! Sorry if my dogs have almost totally taken over my IG! #Oops #ButICantHelpIt @elifdmts
"As they allow me to." Don't know as I give that much credence. The puppies and dog pix have all been a carefully calculated PR play, that's all I know. This particular has almost 2K hearts and 22 comments. Something's not computing.
And here's Milo's explanation of why she just had to post the photo of Collin (7 hearts and 11 comment, hmmm):
miloandjack2016Thanks nick_moy for all your positive remarks! Her son has gotten so much attention in not the best way because of trolls & uninformed people who ALWAYS seek to cast shade on every move @kateplusmy8 makes for the benefit of her children! I wanted to honor him...draw attention to the wonderful fine young man he is! There is absolutely no shame in getting specialized education to meet his needs! He's a trooper...a hard worker...talented in so many ways! This decision Kate made will open new doors for him! Lets' applaud both parent and child here!
nick_moy@miloandjack2016 Very well said.. Kate needs more people like you to battle/ fight off these trolls. It kinda make me sad to see Kate or Mady going public to defend themselves all the time.
This nick_moy has been commenting multiple times on everything Kate posts on IG. Either a paid shill or serial sycophant. I find it curious what he says about Mady here. Mady doesn't "go public" without Mommy's say-so and script in hand. Is he that dumb?
Another thing with the boys room episode was when they went shopping for a bureau and it was mentioned that Collin always made sure he got the boxer underwear, and he was mortified. I think it was Alexis that was with him then. I also could not believe that 3 boys shared 1 dresser in that big old house. And Mady wanted her own room and voila! The younger girls lost their room and had to move to Mady and Cara's room so Mady could be accommodated. I can hardly wait to see the car.
And to further embarrass those icky boys by saying their room and bathroom smelled like boy. I hate to say what she smells like.
I don't think the deck had anything to do with Colin. It's plain greed from Kate and I guess a plot for an episode. I don't know where C's separate room would be. I don't know the house well enough.
@Diane That Nick person is the same person who was comparing Kate's 80k followers to jon's 1k followers and using that as proof more people love Kate.If you see Kate's recent photo's comments,you'll see them being Kate's IG bodyguard and going after anyone who criticizes her.I took a look at their IG and i notice they have a quote that sounds like a quote Milo would share with Kate which is this."Never Judge.. No one knows the whole story and if you don't know, don't fabricate one".
Diane @32 - you could very well be onto something - Milo talking to herself.
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No, Nick Moy, TFW doesn't need more people to fight her battles when she's the one who starts them. She's reaped the rewards of exploiting 8 minor children for more than a decade, but with that comes some people who will continue to question her judgment. If she doesn't like what people say about her, let her deal with it herself. Gladys' constant defense only makes
TFW seem weak and helpless. And people who can swing toddlers by the hair and slam them into cribs are neither.
LOL, so that's how she does it!
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(This was the last comment---of 12---on Milo's posting of Collin's photo.)
It is just weird Nick shows up to help Milo defend Kate and pep talk her, I looked at Nick's profile thing, lol, and that dogs face is something I can picture Milo looking like. Just to have never heard of this person before and now he knows so many details (and relays them, like Milo!)Maybe Milo thinks Kate will develop a crush on her new male friend (Which Milo probably really is anyway and can finally meet Kate... since she is a guy!). I am thinking too much! Just my 2 cents worth.
Nick might very well be one of the Twitter fans with a different name - Goody, Sage, Ziggy, CJ, Barb, Carlene....there are still plenty who think Kate's just peachy.
Well, that service someone posted on Milo's IG turned out to be fake, but there are many others. This one says, "Order anywhere from 1,000 to 40,000 Instagram followers that are guaranteed for life!" mysocialfollowing.com/ instagram
An encomium from a satisfied customer:
"The Service is perfect. Its easy , fast and save. I would buy there anytime again :)"
New to posting, but a long-time reader...does anyone know what happened to Redbird? I enjoyed her posts and haven't seen any from her in quite a while, and hope she is okay. Thanks to Admin and everyone who participates on this blog - I always feel like I am "talking" to old friends when I read here:-)
Jane said... 41
Nick might very well be one of the Twitter fans with a different name - Goody, Sage, Ziggy, CJ, Barb, Carlene....there are still plenty who think Kate's just peachy.
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I'm positive it is it's a brand new account with one follower who follows 9 accounts.
Diane said... 40
It is just weird Nick shows up to help Milo defend Kate and pep talk her, I looked at Nick's profile thing, lol, and that dogs face is something I can picture Milo looking like
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I think the dog looks like Anthony Weiner
Diane (#40), are you the Diane from way back who went to the Murt hearings? If so, it's nice to
see you! But if it's someone else, welcome!
Collin might have had the old boys' room Kate said would be a guest room- probably didn't get much use.
RIP Gene Wilder. He died from complications of Alzheimer's. His diagnosis was kept private - as well it should have been.
@Diane Actually i remember Milo posted that dog picture in a old post of her whining to TLC for new episodes of Kate back on May 26,can't link the actual tweet but here is what it was with the picture
Fired Up 4 Kate
@MiloandJack
Ok @TLC We are getting impatient & a lil grumpy waiting for#KatePlus8 to return! Tell us WHEN please! @Kateplusmy8
I am so sad that such a bright witty person as Gene Wilder had Alzheimer's. What a tragedy
Diane said... 32
Does anyone else get the feeling that Kate's new friend "Nick Moy" is really Milo????
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Interesting that Nick's profile picture is the same picture that Milo tweeted on May 26th. Hmmmm, I don't think it is Milo, it may be another of the sheeple. Or it could be a hater in disguise?
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New to posting, but a long-time reader...does anyone know what happened to Redbird? I enjoyed her posts and haven't seen any from her in quite a while, and hope she is okay. Thanks to Admin and everyone who participates on this blog - I always feel like I am "talking" to old friends when I read here:-)
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IIRC, Admin said awhile back that she had heard from Redbird and all was good, just taking a break. I am sure that Redbird appreciates your thoughts. ;)
I was a long time lurker and I enjoyed Redbird's post too!
Tonight on All Things Considered on NPR they interviewed Gene Wilder's grandnephew. He said they would all go out to dinner at family type restaurants and kids would still recognize Wilder. The kids would be in awe and then so happy to see him. Wilder didn't want those kids' smiles ever taken away. He thought if his disease was public parents would keep the kids away from him or say how sad he's sick. So he wanted it private. They sounded like a close, loving family.
Thanks for the info, GollyGee!
Milo says Collin is "Kind of in the public eye right now...." Really Milo "right now"? This sad little fellow has been in the public eye since birth. Did it ever occur to her that this is likely a huge part of his problem.
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This is the part where I just shake my head. Per Kate, she has attributed this problem to not having a father. Without even going into all the B.S. about that like the parental alienation, even if TRUE, why wouldn't you also attribute his problems to a narcissistic mother, or filming and being a child celeb.
Why is she so sure of the causation here? And where is her proof of the causation?
Yes, I always thought it was unsafe for little Alexis to sleep in the basement unless Jon was actually there too...
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That reminds me, I was going to say it seems to me her pattern with problem children is to isolate them out from the pack. I have been suspicious from day one whether Collin really needs a separate bedroom, or if that just made it "easier" on Kate. My money is on the latter.
Milo is a real pest when it comes to trying to change the narrative. I see how she has twisted things around by saying there is no shame in getting help for these issues!
No one, not a single person, ever suggested it's shameful to get help for special needs or anything at all. That is NOT the issue and she darn well knows it.
Oh and also by raising the issue of "shame" she is implying that those who say she should have kept this quiet are saying so because this is shameful. Saying something should be private is not the same thing as saying you should be ashamed.
Stop it, Milo.
FlimsyFlamsy......I am not that Diane...I have been silently reading here for at least 4 years...finally had to speak. Thanks for the welcome. I am in middle Georgia, possibly near Milo!!I look for her all the time, and when I finally see a crazy looking woman..or man walking dogs out in the woods, I will let ya,all know!!!😉
If I'm remembering right, there was an extra bedroom available for Collin. During the room swap, the boys moved to the basement, the girl tups got the twins old room, and the twins were moved into their own rooms in the space the tups previously lived in. That part of the house had three bed/two bath.
It might have been a recommendation for Collin to have his own bedroom. Maybe he needs more control over his space and possessions rather than sharing with two others who can disrupt that. Perhaps he needs a place just to get away from all the chaos in that house. All the screaming and shoving in that house would sent me over the edge and I don't have any diagnose-able problems.
All the screaming and shoving in that house would sent me over the edge and I don't have any diagnose-able problems.
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I couldn't watch a full episode of K+8. Too chaotic. Too much shouting. Made want to climb the walls.
I think the artist banner that goes with this blog says a lot, Collin with his hands over his face!
How many years have so Many concerned people been trying to help the kids? I hope the kids are able to read this blog someday and get some consolation that a group of caring people tried to help them and understand the damage that TLC and everyone connected to putting them on display cause them, robbing them of a Normal childhood.
Deliverence said... 62
All the screaming and shoving in that house would sent me over the edge and I don't have any diagnose-able problems.
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I couldn't watch a full episode of K+8. Too chaotic. Too much shouting. Made want to climb the walls.
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That's the thing about her show. Chaotic fun? Really? Lots of chaos, but I rarely saw a happy kid or kids who seemed to be enjoying being together, laughing, whatever. Lots of snide comments about one another---and Mommy---but not a whole lot of affection or enjoyment. If this is the "realest reality," it's pretty depressing.
I have also found watching the episodes that feature chaos, which is most of them, jarring. It is not fun or entertaining to witness it.
I'm a very low key person around the house and I was raised by mostly calm people who spoke to children in indoor voices and punished calmly and respectfully. There are no screamers in my family. That chaos drives me bonkers. I also think I am quite sensitive to it, more than the average person. I don't enjoy loud noises like fireworks or concerts. Yelling and screaming gives me anxiety. For anyone sensitive to that like Collin must be, that house must be hell.
I actually believe her the kids won't let her post photos of them on instagram. But that begs the question if they don't like their photos pleasured all over 80k mostly fake followers, why would they agree to film for 1.2 million mostly real viewers?
See, I think they're still not quite realizing the scope of this show. It's harder for a kid to quantify when you can't really see or interact with TV viewers like you do on social media. They can SEE all the likes and comments on instagram and that freaks out a kid going through the teen years. And it seems like for kids these days social media is their only point of reference.
I think we're coming into the most interesting time for this family in years, where the kids are finding their voices. In terms of the future I think it will be important for them to know there are people there who care about protecting children's privacy. At some point they are going to need their feelings validated by someone, as all former child stars likely want.
Well autocorrect changed plastered to pleasured. Yuck! I wasn't implying there's something sexual about instagram, although I'm sure some people get their jollys off looking at children's photos.
That is NOT the issue and she darn well knows it.
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I wonder if she really does know it. She has no critical thinking ability. Her brain isn't wired like a normal person, and I think that when you're so far into celebrity worship, you have no control over your thinking and in your mind you twist everything around so the object of your adulation looks like a hero. With her, it's really difficult to tell what she really knows and how much is delusional and a figment of her imagination when it comes to defending Kate. She has convinced herself that Kate walks on water and nothing will ever change that opinion.
Admin (#165), I first read this as "I was raised mostly by clam people." Boy, and we thought the G kids had it bad being raised by a shrew!
I, too, am hypersensitive to noise. I often leave my phone on vibrate, because even the lowest ringtone can startle me if I'm concentrating on something else. I wouldn't last 5 minutes at
Gosselin Manor.
I, too, am hypersensitive to noise. I often leave my phone on vibrate, because even the lowest ringtone can startle me if I'm concentrating on something else. I wouldn't last 5 minutes at
Gosselin Manor.
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I hate the sound of a ringing cell phone that's not answered.
Car alarms drive me nuts.
My fridge makes a high pitched beeping noise if the door is not fully closed. Makes me cringe and go running to shut it!
And of course, fighting, screaming chaos is not something I handle well.
I simply don't go to concerts.
I may have overly sensitive hearing, or heck, maybe I'm on the spectrum. In any case, it breaks my heart for a kid who doesn't have the choice to have a calmer environment to exist in.
Yeah, I know I'm hypersensitive to this but I just don't think that high stress environment is good for any child and certainly for someone who "feels" it more, how unpleasant.
If he is on the spectrum, it can be almost painful to live like that. Bad behavior could be the only way he knows how to react. He may find being away from home liberating.
I wonder if she really does know it. She has no critical thinking ability. Her brain isn't wired like a normal person, and I think that when you're so far into celebrity worship, you have no control over your thinking and in your mind you twist everything around so the object of your adulation looks like a hero. With her, it's really difficult to tell what she really knows and how much is delusional and a figment of her imagination when it comes to defending Kate. She has convinced herself that Kate walks on water and nothing will ever change that opinion.
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That's fair. My sense of her though is that this is deliberate. That she deliberately changes the subject, twists things around to suit herself and Kate, and plays victim. She moves the target around while you're trying to shoot because she does not play fair, that's just her M.O.
I think she is more manipulative and much less just generally out of it. And I think that's one reason she loves Kate so much, because Kate does the same thing, Kate operates socially the same....exact....way.
I cannot even imagine having to be around someone who's always trying to spin everything to their advantage. You couldn't get an objective story from Kate if you tried.
Oh WOW Admin! You were so tuned in to the Gosselins. I'm talking years ago! Your blog picture shows Collin with his hands covering his face. How sad he did not receive proper care way back when. Enough said. There are no words!
I doubt Collin would have a private room at this school, although that makes sense. I think Kate just wanted to segregate him from the others for some reason.I also agree the overwhelming noise and everyone talking at once would be torture. I also dislike loud, unexpected or continuous noise.
Sandi said... 72
Oh WOW Admin! You were so tuned in to the Gosselins. I'm talking years ago! Your blog picture shows Collin with his hands covering his face.
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Don't forget the money on the banner. Kate has been a profiteer for years, making money off her divorce, her kids' struggles and pain, and now Colin's challenges.
It's sickening and I don't get how her fans don't see that this is no different from when Kate herself decried that Kevin and Jodi were making "blood money".
What do you call it when you sell your children's problems and challenges to the media, for profit?
(yes, I know People doesn't pay for interviews, but they pay for photos and that's the same darn thing when you package the two together)
I think Gladys is very sly, saying that TFW has nothing to be ashamed of, getting help for C. She knows darn well the angry response is that people think TFW is too lazy, impatient, self-centered and mean to try to deal with C's issues in a less drastic way. She can read the comments with her own eyes, and has likely scoured every last online reference of the situation since it broke. Like her true love, she is not especially bright, but is awfully cunning.
Oh, no, I've just told Gladys that she and TFW are a lot alike. Probably made her day.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 66
I actually believe her the kids won't let her post photos of them on instagram. But that begs the question if they don't like their photos pleasured all over 80k mostly fake followers, why would they agree to film for 1.2 million mostly real viewers?
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I think it's been ingrained in the kids that the show is Mommy's livelihood, and without it, everything goes away.
That's been very tangible to them, from losing their home, their school, their fun, their toys, their pool, their travel and their pets.
Anything outside of that isn't necessary for earning their keep.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 75
I think Gladys is very sly, saying that TFW has nothing to be ashamed of, getting help for C.
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I haven't seen anyone saying she should be ashamed of getting him help. Exploiting his issues by publicly exposing them in People, now that's a different story.
Hey, what happened to TFW's claim that if one kid doesn't want to film, they'll end the show? I guess technically she could claim that C would still like to film, but she's had to send him away. And the show must go on...poke, dab...
C would want it that way.
I'm surprised that none of the fans have floated the theory that now TFW will need to film more than ever, because of the huge expense for C's treatment. She can never get a mediocre ol' nursing job now. And her ex, Douchey McLoser,
not only doesn't pay child support, but won't
even spring for a ham sandwich when whatever
kids can tolerate him are in his care.
#K8+Bills#WimpyBoyPays0#MomGr8Provider
I haven't seen anyone saying she should be ashamed of getting him help. Exploiting his issues by publicly exposing them in People, now that's a different story.
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No, of course no one has said that.
That's why I'm saying, she's a master at manipulation. She knows everyone is saying Kate shouldn't have made this public. But her only way to spin it around against us is to say we're saying that because we think this is shameful, that we're saying Kate should not say anything out of shame.
It's cunning, and I don't see how she could have fallen into it. She knows what she is doing.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 65
I have also found watching the episodes that feature chaos, which is most of them, jarring. It is not fun or entertaining to witness it.
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Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids.
Katie looked obviously distressed to witness the pushing and hitting and asked Kate how she handled the siblings fighting, and Kate just shrugged and said she lets them work it out themselves.
All Lord of the Flies like.
That's the thing about her show. Chaotic fun? Really?
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At the ages the kids are now, the chaos should be coming from running them around to their activities, with their busy schedule. Not from them fighting, yelling, hitting and generally being surly to one another.
That's what you'd expect with 5-year olds.
She knows what she is doing.
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And sadly without a care Kate's gonna milk her new attention for all it's worth.
To bad it's at the expanse of Collin's mental health and the other 7's privacy's.
But as long as mama gets paid who give a s**t right?
I'm surprised that none of the fans have floated the theory that now TFW will need to film more than ever, because of the huge expense for C's treatment.
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She wouldn't be paying a dime of it. This would come out of the money that has been put into an account for the education and welfare of the kids. The thing is that if she keeps filming, and the kids get some of that money, they would be helping to fund his schooling and therapy, would they not?
@Admin it also needs to be said about Milo that even she has given hints where she really doesn't know,despite her trying to convince people that she knows what goes on.When Kate started uploading puppy pictures,milo made a comment saying"You're now officially an animal lover,no doubt about it".She pretty much admitted in that sentence that even she had doubts about the stuff Kate does.So yeah,i think she also does it just to bait and annoy the haters as well.
Wasn't there some talk long ago that the reason Collin was covering his eyes was that he'd been treated badly by TFW for happily waving and saying hi to one of the paps? Someone he was familiar with because he'd spent time with the guy (via Jon)?
I can't remember if it was supposedly Robert, or some other fellow.
But the talk was that he was covering his eyes so that he wouldn't get into trouble for making eye contact with the paps, or being friendly to them.
Of course there's no shame in her getting help. However it would be a shame if he doesn't really need to go away and she is just sending him away because it's easier for her and so that she can film.
But the talk was that he was covering his eyes so that he wouldn't get into trouble for making eye contact with the paps, or being friendly to them.
August 30, 2016 at 8:26 AM
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Yeah, poor guy was made so afraid of the "P people" that he covered his face as to not look at them. It must have been so confusing that filming was/is their life (hey, Kate's words,not mine!), and that involves cameras in their faces all the time, but other people with cameras are BAD.
I can imagine it must have been terrifying to go out to the bus stop or anywhere with Kate when they were all tabloid darlings.
Just when I thought I was done with the Gosselin mess I'm compelled to fly back into the fray. That witch has sold her soul along with her children. That she is using her son's difficulties to stay in the limelight is lower than I ever imagined she would go. We saw her banish everyone who challenged or disagreed with her -- Jon, Aunt Jodi, Beth, her whole family -- but strangely never considered she would do the same to one of her children. I hope C is getting the love, care and attention he obviously never received from his mother. My heart hurts for the seven who remain under her thumb.
I think it's been ingrained in the kids that the show is Mommy's livelihood, and without it, everything goes away.
That's been very tangible to them, from losing their home, their school, their fun, their toys, their pool, their travel and their pets.
Anything outside of that isn't necessary for earning their keep.
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I agree Tucker's Mom and I wouldn't put it past her to point at their father and say "He stopped filming and look where he is. Is that what you want for yourselves?"
I didn't realize that Kate likened Colin's inpatient treatment to sending a kid away to college.
“When your kids go to college, do you miss them? Yes, but you reassure yourself that they are getting so much out of it,” Gosselin said. “And that’s the same sort of investment I feel like I’ve made Collin’s future."
So, Kate views this as sending her 12-year old, troubled child off to college. Having watched her for so long, I can't help but think this is a big relief for her.
Her quotes in the article come across as so dispassionate, and hell the photos in the People article make her look downright elated.
Tucker's Mom #80...Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids.
Katie looked obviously distressed to witness the pushing and hitting and asked Kate how she handled the siblings fighting, and Kate just shrugged and said she lets them work it out themselves.
All Lord of the Flies like.
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I did chuckle to myself when watching Kate Conye bragging about how the sibs take care of each other and Hannah 'literally gave Alexis the shirt off of her back'. I'm sure she didn't give it quietly. I'm sure there was yelling, pouting, foot stomping, possibly hitting involved in the transfer of that shirt. We've seen it. The bed situation during the New England trip for example. And when they moved their bedrooms around. The 3 girls screaming and yelling and stomping their feet. Those kids are not kind to each other and Kate C. is full of crap if she thinks we believe Hannah just quietly handed over the shirt to Alexis.
kris said... 90
Tucker's Mom #80...Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids.
Katie looked obviously distressed to witness the pushing and hitting and asked Kate how she handled the siblings fighting, and Kate just shrugged and said she lets them work it out themselves.
All Lord of the Flies like.
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I did chuckle to myself when watching Kate Conye bragging about how the sibs take care of each other and Hannah 'literally gave Alexis the shirt off of her back'. I'm sure she didn't give it quietly. I'm sure there was yelling, pouting, foot stomping, possibly hitting involved in the transfer of that shirt. We've seen it. The bed situation during the New England trip for example. And when they moved their bedrooms around. The 3 girls screaming and yelling and stomping their feet. Those kids are not kind to each other and Kate C. is full of crap if she thinks we believe Hannah just quietly handed over the shirt to Alexis.
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Not to mention this was the second photo shoot wardrobe meltdown we've seen from, I think, the same girl. What happened to "you get what you get and you don't get upset"?
Kris, I agree. Hannah and Leah are often mean to Alexis or 'kind' if it benefits them. I also think giving A the shirt off her back was done with bribery of some kind and yes, plenty of drama.
I agree Tucker's Mom and I wouldn't put it past her to point at their father and say "He stopped filming and look where he is. Is that what you want for yourselves?"
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I have no doubt. Look at Kate's "mediocre" comment. If Kate was willing to go on national tv and say that Jon and his life,and the life he could offer the kids is mediocre, you can only imagine what she's told the kids at home.
Hello See Saw. Glad to see your green face!
Tucker's Mom, is that college statement in the article? That comparison and the use of the word investment are so abnormal.
I might have to go grocery shopping and read the article while I stand in the longest check out line. I refuse to purchase the issue.
Milo needs to learn to use snopes.com
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 49m49 minutes ago
Wow....Brad Pitt! Very insightful. What love motivates a man to do... https://www.instagram.com/p/BJt_UHJA3kc/
http://www.snopes.com/glurge/secretoflove.asp
Hi Dmasy. Good to see your feathery face!
Dmasy said... 94
Hello See Saw. Glad to see your green face!
Tucker's Mom, is that college statement in the article? That comparison and the use of the word investment are so abnormal.
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Good to see that green face for me, too!!
Here's the HuffPo article that I read. Most comments, again, are not kind to Kate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-kate-gosselin-decided-to-send-one-of-her-sons-away-to-get-help_us_57bdd7f9e4b0287a6e733546
The thing that sheep don't seem to "get" is that we're upset about Kate going public with Colin's struggles because everyone knows that the People article predictably spawns a veritable cavalcade of media reports, tabloid articles and tv segments.
It like setting off a dirty bomb, and Kate damn well knows it.
It was Leah who rebelled at the other photo shoot about her dress. Kate pleaded "I want to reward you." And in the packing for Maine scene, thee tup girls had plenty to say about what they would and wouldn't wear. Leah has become a lot like Hannah who is a lot like Mady who is a lot like Kate....
Katie Couric. Yes
During Celebrity wife swap Kendra felt bad for the kids.
I wouldn't put it past her to point at their father and say "He stopped filming and look where he is. Is that what you want for yourselves?"
Exactly.
SeeSaw, good to see you back!
If Hannah gave Alexis "the shirt off her back", then Hannah didn't like the shirt. The kids battle and melt down and compete all the time--Hannah wouldn't do that unless it benefitted her some way. Give away the shirt you don't like and get one you like better. Too easy. Kate Coyne is just as full of it as Kate G.
People put out a lot of stories about the Gosselins all at once. It's interesting how quickly they disappeared, isn't it? Used to be that Gosselin news was all over the place, trending forever. The whole thing (including Jon's response) was over in about 3 days, and I don't think it was trending anywhere. And I don't know where Milo shops, but People magazine isn't selling out where I live. All the magazine racks are full of them. Sometimes, when there is something really newsworthy on the cover, it sells out--but that's rare. This week, it doesn't look like many have sold at all. Full racks. Full. New hashtag for Milo: #nolongernewsworthy.
Hey, Milo! You want to do something nice for your bestie? Send her this link so she can see how a real celebrity who truly loves her children parents after divorce.
http://www.today.com/popculture/mayim-bialik-gets-real-about-co-parenting-divorce-isn-t-t102287
What makes me sad is the fact that wherever Collin's new room is, it's still far away from his mother. The master bedroom in that house is removed from all the others, so it's not like she would be close by to tend to him. I wouldn't be at all surprised it he took one of the rooms upstairs, close to where Cara and Mady were moved. Cara was always very protective of Collin, so maybe having her close by would be a comfort to him. Cara always seemed to be the one there to comfort him, which makes me think he has had anxiety issues for a long time. I remember one episode (I think when the camera crew showed up after the divorce hiatus), Cara came up behind Collin and put her arms around him as the crew came in the door. I think the same thing happened when Katie Couric and her camera crew showed up. And when you consider all the times he put his hands over his face when there were cameras around, it seems likely that cameras do cause him great anxiety.
I truly hope that that's not the reason he was sent away--due to anxiety over cameras and filming. Considering that Jon was banished when he became an obstacle to filming, it's not hard to imagine that kate would do the same thing to Collin. She chose filming over Jon, would she do the same to Collin? Sadly, I think she would. People are expendable to her, filming is not.
Layla, I also remember on the RV trip, there was mention of Cara and Collin being "C" friends and did Lego building together as their special 'thing" (However Cara was behaving deplorably to Jamie's son Clay who was at the Lego table)
Also didn't Collin write "Cara" on his Christmas list once? I think this whole thing must be very hard for her.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 65
I have also found watching the episodes that feature chaos, which is most of them, jarring. It is not fun or entertaining to witness it.
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Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids.
Katie looked obviously distressed to witness the pushing and hitting and asked Kate how she handled the siblings fighting, and Kate just shrugged and said she lets them work it out themselves.
All Lord of the Flies like.
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Remember Tucker's at the end of the Katie Couric Gosselin Gang Update Special, Kate and Katie were in the living room with each a GLASS OF WINE and they were toasting.
I could not believe what I was seeing after I saw the kids fight, spit, knock, scream, push, and arguing.
I haven't watched Katie Couric's talk show since then!
Mel said... 84
Wasn't there some talk long ago that the reason Collin was covering his eyes was that he'd been treated badly by TFW for happily waving and saying hi to one of the paps? Someone he was familiar with because he'd spent time with the guy (via Jon)?
I can't remember if it was supposedly Robert, or some other fellow.
But the talk was that he was covering his eyes so that he wouldn't get into trouble for making eye contact with the paps, or being friendly to them.
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I think the picture of TFW popping Colin in the face when they were at the bus pickup is when she punished him for saying hi to a friendly pap.
She couldn't let that happen! The kids being friendly with the paparazzi? Then she would look like a liar! Because she always said that they were the devil and a huge problem.
That poor little boy had to make the decision to cover his eyes so he wouldn't upset his own mother.
It is not right for a small child to have to do a
pre-emptive strike to not upset his mother.
Kate deliberately broke Collin. It took years for her to learn that he was struggling, and 12 years before she admitted he needed outside professional help.
A normal parent would have begun some sort of intervention and therapy for Collin, and perhaps some of the others too, way before now.
But the show must go on and Bad Mom is a "stah".
OMG, I surely remember Katie Couric's face. She was clearly horrified. Man, that was funny!
OMG, I surely remember Katie Couric's face. She was clearly horrified. Man, that was funny!
Loud crash upstairs. Kids screaming and yelling. A loud whomp sound.
Katie: Uh....aren't you going to go check on that? TFW: Nope.
lol, and when the tug-o-war turned into real spitting, hissing,whining war, Katie said "uh, maybe this was not a good idea!" I believe it was Mady who was the party pooper on that event.
fade2black, THANK YOU for linking this video from Mayim Bialik.
This is a MUST VIEW because it is brilliant in it's entirety, but just one small quote will put a lump in your throats:
"Divorce isn't the end of the family. It's the end of a nuclear family. It's the end of a family living in one house. But, we still have responsibilities to each other's families, and to our children as a family.
It only strengthens my kids's lives to have all the people they are related to, together".
Speaking about the co-parenting she's forged with her ex-husband, Bialik shares some poignant insight and valuable lessons.
Any mother or father struggling to co-parent in a post-divorce or post-relationship situation needs to pay very close attention.
http://www.today.com/popculture/mayim-bialik-gets-real-about-co-parenting-divorce-isn-t-t102287
Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids.
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Yeah her wtf face is I imagine what I would look like.
Yep she compared it to college. She's cold. How can you possibly compare the two? We're talking about an 18 year old adult, it's consensual and a wonderful payoff for 13 years of hard work and it's the usually one of the most exciting times in a child's life. The world is ahead of them. No matter how good the treatment program how can a 12 year old feel that same kind of joy and hope and excitement about the future? If anything this is the most anxious and uncertain time for this young boy.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 110
Go back and watch the Katie Couric visit to the compound. Katie looked aghast at times, witnessing the constant fighting between the kids.
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Yeah her wtf face is I imagine what I would look like.
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Tee Hee! hahahaha, funny, Admin!
Just the sight of the 7 Gosselins on People's cover is too much to bear. I did notice that NONE had been purchased! Poor Colin. Praying he gets the help he needs. My question is, "What about the help his mother needs?" That woman appears to remain Teflon coated. I swear. Isn't this enough to wake up the fans? Tough to even imagine the destruction to their lives due to their mother's quest for fame and fortune! Going on for years now.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 111
Yep she compared it to college. She's cold. How can you possibly compare the two?
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Many 18-year olds aren't quite ready to move from home and be away from their family. Heck, some kids can't handle sleep-over camp for a week or two.
It's a really big thing for a 12-year old.
I just really hope that Jon can work with Colin, in this program, and be there for him. He needs his dad.
Ok @TLC We are getting impatient & a lil grumpy waiting for#KatePlus8 to return! Tell us WHEN please! @Kateplusmy8
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This comment seems all the more ridiculous in light of recent events. This family is going through a major life change, something really difficult for normal people--the last thing they need right now is to be filming and churning out episodes. Yet all this creepy fan cares about is when is she gonna get her fix. Wth!
LaLaLandNoMore (113)
Same here! The racks of People magazine are full. Very full. I think Milo is lying about it selling out. She just wants to use this as an opportunity to suck up to Kate.
Isn't it interesting how, after People put out all those Gosselin stories (what was it, 3?) in rapid succession, the news blew over so quickly. The stories were gone after 3 days (including Jon's response), It used to be that Gosselin news was trending everywhere forever. I didn't see any of this trending at all.
New hashtag for Milo: #nolongernewsworthy
@Admin that was an old tweet milo made back in may.I was pointed out how that picture of the sad puppy was the same as that Nick person's profile picture.
How preposterous to compare C's situation to going away to college. Sheesh, I know 12-year-olds who still sleep with a lovey. An 18-year-old CHOOSES to go to college, or at least has quite a bit of input in the decision. It's a time of new (and often tentative) independence, and age-appropriate separation from family. How in the world does that scan with sending your 12-year-old away -- especially from a notoriously clannish family
in which he was seen and spoken of as a member
of a 6 pack since he was in the womb?
SeeSaw, it's swell to see you!
ow in the world does that scan with sending your 12-year-old away -- especially from a notoriously clannish family
in which he was seen and spoken of as a member
of a 6 pack since he was in the womb?
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It doesn't. Anyone with 2 brain cells know that sending a child away to an inpatient treatment center is NOTHING like sending a child away to college.
This is pure Kate PR spin.
I wonder if TLC is still managing her PR.
This is not slapping lipstick on a pig like making Kate go to FAO Scharz to buy her stinky boys some toys, instead of letting her do what she really wants like going to Nobu.
It's how blithely Kate talks about it that leaves me cold.
Sure, we miss him, but you know, I think I'm spending my money wisely so he can be the best he can be.
Anyone who knows anything about treating the family's "patient" knows that the entire family is actually the patient and in need of treatment. Colin can't come back to the same dysfunction and chaos. I frankly don't think he should ever have to be filmed again, or made to address his situation publicly.
Tucker's Mom (#118), I can't help but think that
TFW will continue the exploitation of this on the show. Can't you just see a Very Special Episode
about C coming back home, or even for a visit? TFW poking and dabbing her way through party prep to celebrate C's return? As positively insane as that sounds, there is no adult who would put their foot down to say no -- not TLC, and certainly not C's famewhore gestational carrier. I would think the facility would object, but as we know, "no never means no" to TFW. I could see her proceeding with filming, and a la Scarlett O'Hara, worrying about that tomorrow. She is a horrible mother.
jamezvader1194 said... 116
@Admin that was an old tweet milo made back in may.I was pointed out how that picture of the sad puppy was the same as that Nick person's profile picture.
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Great catch! It probs is Milo! 😂
Jacob Roloff hated filming as well. When he turned 18 that was it he said no more and that was it. I think Molly can take it or leave preferring to leave it. She is bright and has a job in finance. The twin boys are in my opinion lazy and with no direction. One of the wives teaches school which is great, and the other one has a religious blog from what is said. Jacob hated his life on film from when he was little. Bless him that he gained his voice and quit.
Has anyone seen TFW making the rounds after this latest news? I haven't seen or heard her give any followup interviews which is a first (I think)
Jbranck1980
This was on a local news show recently, Amy Roloff being interviewed. Go to 2:28 to hear what she says about Jacob - http://wjla.com/features/good-morning-washington/amy-roloff-and-april-osteen-simons-share-motivational-message
I was without internet for a couple of days and I'm not caught up with the comments yet, so if this has been suggested, sorry for the repetition. It occurs to me that one reason TFMJG kept Collin from Jon is the possibility that Collin's behavior/functioning was deteriorating and she didn't want Jon to know about it. She was afraid he might do something that would interfere with her continuing to exploit the kids. Just a thought.
Anonymous said... 122
Has anyone seen TFW making the rounds after this latest news? I haven't seen or heard her give any followup interviews which is a first (I think)
Jbranck1980
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I don't think it's time yet. TLC usually trots her out a few days before they're going to air her show. For me, that's why the People piece coming out without her being on the foreseeable schedule was rather odd.
"She only does it to annoy, because she knows it teases."
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4m4 minutes ago
Have you seen the #AmazonPrime ad where pup w/broken/bandaged leg tries to follow owner? Owner buys #BabySling for pup! @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
LOL I totally see you doing that! Quick fix from #Amazon...making sure your #FurBabies get the best there is! #MomLove @Kateplusmy8
Hey, readerlady, that is a very good point.
If that was the situation, Jon could of went to court and shut the filming down and maybe get to see all of the kids with his family court papers.
Bandmom, thanks for sharing that link. Amy appears honest and very loving along with aware of the importance of letting Jacob be Jacob.
Sad But True (125)
It is odd that the People article came out without the show being in the very near future. Usually she's trying to drum up some publicity for upcoming shows. Unless, of course, she's trying to use the publicity to get TLC's attention.
I would be willing to bet she has tried to line up as many talk shows and media appearances as she could find. She would love to cry and play martyr on TV again, just like she did in 2009. It's not her choice that she's not on the shows, and it's not her choice that the show isn't on the air. TLC doesn't want to air K+8, and the talk shows don't want her. Otherwise she'd be everywhere.
See how easily this translates:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
LOL I totally see you doing that! Quick fix from #Amazon...making sure your #FurBabies get the best there is! #MomLove @Kateplusmy8
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
LOL I totally see you doing that! Quick fix from #Amazon...making sure your #IckyBoy gets the best
there is! #MomLove @Kateplusmy8
readerlady said... 124
I think you're spot on. The incident we heard about with Hannah last year must have been a catalyst in this whole sorry story---as in, she's NOT going to hide the situation anymore, so something must change. But not anything that would hinder filming, oh no, never that.
GollyGee said... 127
Hey, readerlady, that is a very good point.
If that was the situation, Jon could of went to court and shut the filming down and maybe get to see all of the kids with his family court papers.
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I'm only going off the little that I've read quickly as I've been out of the Gosselin loop, but doesn't Jon already have a court order to see his kids? If he wasn't seeing Collin, and had no idea that his own son was so bad off that he has to be institutionalised that is on him. He had the tools and just left them to rust.
I'm only going off the little that I've read quickly as I've been out of the Gosselin loop, but doesn't Jon already have a court order to see his kids? If he wasn't seeing Collin, and had no idea that his own son was so bad off that he has to be institutionalised that is on him. He had the tools and just left them to rust.
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Hi Tamara. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense at all. We are definitely not hearing the whole story.
My question is, "What about the help his mother needs?" That woman appears to remain Teflon coated. I swear. Isn't this enough to wake up the fans? Tough to even imagine the destruction to their lives due to their mother's quest for fame and fortune! Going on for years now.
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Yes, even if Collin gets the help that he needs and the therapy that can best address his issues, at some point he has to return to her, and she's off her rocker. How can this be good for him? Won't it be a vicious cycle, and he will be back to square one?
In 2010, Admin posted the Chronology of Collin Covering His Face in case anyone is interested in revisiting that info.
Click here
I can't remember whether he said this to the public or just to me, but I remember Jon saying that Collin covering his face was something he and Ellen had suggested he do when he was complaining about the paps upsetting him. In light of his special needs it feels especially cruel to throw a pap in his face. Something like that could be very unsettling to a child like that. Any loving parent would want to give them whatever suggestions they could to feel better when that happens.
As I recall, covering his face happened a lot at Jon's, from the pap photos.
Yes, even if Collin gets the help that he needs and the therapy that can best address his issues, at some point he has to return to her, and she's off her rocker. How can this be good for him? Won't it be a vicious cycle, and he will be back to square one?
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And that's why in home treatment is so crucial. It does a child no good to stabilize them out of home only to send them back to chaos and an incapable parent.
There needs to be an in home care plan that Kate needs to be a part of. She's not going to be able to get out of this one. She's going to have to put in the hard work. Isn't she the one who said you get what you get and you don't get upset? This is what she got and she needs to be a grown up and deal with it.
I love her and what she had to say about this. Wonderful:
http://www.today.com/popculture/mayim-bialik-gets-real-about-co-parenting-divorce-isn-t-t102287
I worked with what I perceived as one of the best families at co-parenting ever this year. The kids had two daddies and two mommies, there was no "step-parent". They enjoyed being at dad's, they enjoyed being at mom's. No one ever said anything bad about the other. Grandparents were involved, but when they were with the children they focused on the here and now and didn't question them about what's happening at the other parent's. They got therapy when the divorce first happened. They feel special being divorced kids because they get more presents, they brag to their friends. When they were missing their dad because they weren't spending enough time with him, the parents worked it out so they could spend more time. Time was carved out for a long vacation with the parent who didn't have custody during that entire time. Such sweet, well adjusted kids. I was literally choked up hearing all this, and the coolest thing I got to do was praise the parents for raising such great kids.
Mayim doesn't look at the divorce as a negative thing but rather a blessing which give potential for great happiness to grow. I think it's important to view it from that positive perspective. With that though you have to be a grown up and you have to let a lot of stuff go.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 140
But do you think Kate would honestly allow a psychologist or psychiatrist or a therapist case worker who can report her to be in her home?
I highly doubt it.
Tucker's Mom, is that college statement in the article? That comparison and the use of the word investment are so abnormal.
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Lol Dmasy, there's a lot about her that's abnormal.
I think this goes back to her sociopathic tendencies. She truly can't feel the kind of deep pain a normal person would feel at this situation. She can only try to imagine some other situation where a child goes away, and college came to mind.
She understands going away and that that would make a parent sad. But because she cannot experience normal emotions, she is unable to realize that's a ridiculous comparison and not the same thing at all. To her it's all the same thing though, going away and sad. It really is like watching someone who doesn't experience emotions navigate the rest of the world who does--fascinating.
t do you think Kate would honestly allow a psychologist or psychiatrist or a therapist case worker who can report her to be in her home?
I highly doubt it.
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If a judge orders it, she'd have to. Too bad.
Has anyone else questioned why Colin would be sent away in the summer, over summer break, when he could be enjoying the down time like the rest of his siblings?
It strikes me as interesting that Colin is sent away, in the summer, during summer break, just as Kate gets her (annual) big swath of uninterrupted filming time.
Why not get him started in his program when the rest of the kids return to school?
Was his admission to this inpatient program *that* pressing, or was it more strategic to remove him as an obstacle so Kate could film and have her puppy show?
Has anyone else questioned why Colin would be sent away in the summer, over summer break, when he could be enjoying the down time like the rest of his siblings?
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It should be very much questioned. That would have been a perfect time to get him stabilized without the chaos of school and other school-year activities. Don't get the puppies this year, don't go on a bunch of trips, stay home and help this boy.
Filming is connected to this, without a doubt. She was not about to cancel filming plans to work with Wrap Around 6 days a week like good parents would. Nor was she about to cancel instagram fodder in the puppies.
She was not about to cancel filming plans
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Kate could be in a coma and she still want to film.
This was on a local news show recently, Amy Roloff being interviewed. Go to 2:28 to hear what she says about Jacob - http://wjla.com/features/good-morning-washington/amy-roloff-and-april-osteen-simons-share-motivational-message
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I can't get this to load no matter what I try. Can someone summarize what she said about Jake?
You know what? This entire fiasco of a marriage/family was completely predictable. Narcissistic Kate could only pair with a passive man. She could only tolerate someone she could control & manipulate. We already know she has nuked all other relationships when people fail to 'ask how they can help.' Jon just wasn't & isn't capable of fighting her. He's lost so many battles & been beaten into submission so many times.
Collin just hasn't been able to be beaten into submission. Now, hopefully, he is receiving some help for his 'problem.'Kate thinks the residential center will teach him how to comply, but I think the school will give him the tools to understand that he is fighting with a crazy woman. ie: HE doesn't have the problem, SHE does.
If this school is worth the 100K she's shelling out to get her child to conform, she may very well might be shocked to learn that Collin might just not return to her. He may decide to live with Jon now that he is out of her mind fucking control & I really don't see how anyone could force him.
I've always thought the kids would begin to fail her one after another. After all, nobody can spend they're entire life with her. Everyone is an accessory to Kate. If they don't make her happy they disappear.
just wondering said... 149
Agree with pretty much everything you said. Where did you get 100K/yr for the school, though? Whatever it costs, I don't doubt she's taking it out of C's trust. It's an "investment," ya know.
Does Milo think of herself as a hierophant, interpreting the sacred mysteries of all things Kate?
Kate didn't believe in therapy. She refused to go when John wanted to go for marriage counseling. Of course she had lover boy Steve and had her mind set on divorce anyway, but I think she figured that she knew best - not some therapist who might side with Jon.
That's just an approximate estimate from when I was researching schools for my grandson & comparing facilities. The better the facility, the more they cost. Could be $130,000 or more depending upon the services. These facilities are not inexpensive and the kids are treated really well. My grandson came home & wants to return. He really enjoyed the structure, the one on one therapy, and all of the positive reinforcement.
I've been very busy at work and obsessed with Big Brother and America's Got Talent. Had to stop by after last week's People showed up in the mailbox with TFMJG on the cover. She is as boring as ever. Not sure I believe any statements attributed to the kids in that interview. My dd, the former fan, took one look and summed it up nicely. "FameWhore."
See y'all later in September. Gotta check the live feed spoilers for Big Brother and see if the Chen-Bot has given any interviews about it this week.
Sorry, I messed up the link for the chronology of Collin Covering His Face. Trying again:
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/05/chronology-of-collin-hiding-his-face.html?m=1
I don't know why this guy is tweeting a link to this "interview" now, since it's clear it was recorded back when "Blind Date" aired. I never saw it tweeted before. There's nothing new in it, no real questions asked.
PERSEVERANCE NETWORK @PERSEVERANCENET 7m7 minutes ago
11amCT @PERSEVERANCENET #Minnesota @totaltutor with @Kateplusmy8 Star of @TLC Kate Plus 8 https://youtu.be/P4S0Yw-u9xk
MabelD said... 152
Kate didn't believe in therapy. She refused to go when John wanted to go for marriage counseling. Of course she had lover boy Steve and had her mind set on divorce anyway, but I think she figured that she knew best - not some therapist who might side with Jon.
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When Jon begged her to go to marriage counseling in the beginning, she refused, BUT, she said the only marriage counseling she would agree to would be DR. PHIL!
The only reason why she would agree to going to see Dr. Phil is a free trip, hotel, concierge service, Steve going along and getting paid for showing pictures.
She also cheated Dr. Lafair? out of her services after the Dr. suing TFW and winning and then TFW appealed it and she still lost! TFW has never paid her a penny. What Dr. Lafair needs to do is take the judgment and put a lien on the house or one of the sports cars and when it is sold, she can get her money.
Wouldn't that be hilarious when at closing of the selling of Gosselin Land that the clerk says, Um. Uh. There is a lien on the house and 10K plus interest for several years has to be paid before the sale can continue!
Bwahaha! Wouldn't that chap her good!!!
Titanic exploiter said... 155
Sorry, I messed up the link for the chronology of Collin Covering His Face. Trying again:
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/05/chronology-of-collin-hiding-his-face.html?m=1
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WOW How prophetic:
"We want to document this for future reference. Baby Collin's fight to get his privacy back after his parents sold it to the highest bidder:"
The future is now
WOW How prophetic:
"We want to document this for future reference
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Wow.
Looks like Jon is fighting back.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-interview-112247
Sad but true said... 160
Looks like Jon is fighting back.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-interview-112247
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Wasn't that little gem in Robert's "book of lies"? So funny
"“Kate wanted fame and fortune at any cost,” the source exclusively tells In Touch, explaining that in 2009 — as Jon and Kate’s marriage was crumbling —TLC arranged a mediation in LA, where they made Jon a lucrative offer.
MORE: Jon Gosselin Speaks Out After Daughters Claim He "Doesn't Know Them"
“TLC and Kate agreed that they needed to keep the marriage intact to make the show go on and offered Jon $2 million to sign a contract to stay married for two more years,” the source continued. "Jon was told they could have an open marriage behind the scenes but he refused. He didn’t want to have a fake marriage for a TV show.”
Source:
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-interview-112247
I'm pro-Dad and pro-Jon, but I've run hot and cold on him over the years. That's no secret. However, I've always believed him when he said that Kate did NOT want to fix her marriage, did NOT want to enter into *real* therapy with Jon, and that TLC was scrambling to save the show.
That included the sham marriage to Kate, with Kate telling Jon to sign a contract and he could do whatever he wanted, as long as he showed up for filming.
Jon, not being a good little boy, defied TLC and went out, partied and met women, and got caught.
Now, what was TLC to do? Well, circle their powerful wagons around Kate, save the show, and destroy Jon.
To this day, there are a lot of people who think he left, when he did not. They think he cheated on his wife, when really, the marriage was over and whatever people saw at the time was fakery for filming.
I hope the full article includes Jon saying that he's going to see Colin come hell or high water, and get to the bottom of what's been going on.
I'm always stymied that people can read about the lengths that Kate Gosselin has gone to in order to keep filming her show, and still think she's a great mother.
Nothing gets in Kate's way. Nothing.
SO, TLC offered Jon 2 million dollars to pretend he and she were still married for 2 years? And he turned it down.
Some people just can't be bought. This is how much he wanted his kids from being filmed and off tv.
I can't imagine the meltdown she had after that meeting.
Keep fighting Jon!
Wow.
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Wow to the nth power.
What will she call this new "series" (if there is one)without the eight kids? Seventh Heaven?
She also cheated Dr. Lafair? out of her services after the Dr. suing TFW and winning and then TFW appealed it and she still lost!
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She didn't lose an appeal, did she? I thought the doctor chose not to continue the battle and just walked away.
What Dr. Lafair needs to do is take the judgment and put a lien on the house or one of the sports cars and when it is sold, she can get her money.
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It's too late. SOL.
I guess the sheeple will now start bleating about how Jon needs money so he's selling stories to the rag mags. My question to them would be what's the difference between that and TFW's people story?
"He should maybe spend some time thinking about why we don't want to see him, and maybe realize that if he ever does want a relationship with us, talking about us on TV is not the way to make that happen."
Wait a minute. Didn't Kate put the girls on television (that Today Show fiasco) to talk about (and bash) Jon?
This is one dysfunctional family. Time to pull the plug for good.
Wait a minute. Didn't Kate put the girls on television (that Today Show fiasco) to talk about (and bash) Jon?
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Of course she did. The girls aren't old enough yet to realize they are being used by Kate, but they will, soon. And it's not going to be pretty. She has accomplished estranging them from their father during the teen years. She may be facing 30 years of at least some of them being estranged from HER once they are adults. Worth it?
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Wow, $130,000 sounds like a lot! My niece is in an elite boarding school, and that's $56,000. I guess the extra cost is for the around-the-clock care and therapy that would be available for troubled kids. Makes me wonder how long Kate can sustain that kind of expense before Collin's trust fund is depleted.
Worth it?
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As long as mommy gets paid it's all worth it. And if the kids leave that just means they didn't know how to keep helping her.
So byeeeeeee.
And God-forbid if the twins turn on Kate and ever pick daddy.....Boy they're done for.-(I bet they know this 2)
Okay, fellow posters, who was in my neighborhood today? I went up to my local Giant store for some marjoram and while waiting to check out, I noticed that someone had taken copies of Country Living magazine and placed them in front of People magazine in each of the checkout lines. Oh, and the racks of People mag were still full.
Never let it be said that I would stifle anyone's freedom of expression--I left the magazines they way they were and just giggled as I checked out.
Now fess up--who was it? Next time let me know you're here and I'll have you over for tea!
M & C are well into their teen years. And with TFW acting as their mother, BFF, and publicity agent, I think they are getting an intensely warped view of the world. They are quickly approaching dating age, and I shudder to think what tools they have to conduct any sort of successful romantic relationship, or any other kind of connection for that matter.
lol, at my store the People rack was full too!
@Layla The racks were full?But how can that be when milo claims she got the last copy at her store and that they were selling out like crazy where she lives?Clearly as a hater,you must be lying.
What is going to happen to these kids, I wonder, after they leave their little Gosselin bubbleland & have to mingle in the real world? They have been locked in their house & private school for all these years. How in the hell are they supposed to cope with finding out that everyone in the country watched their family crash & burn on TV?
It's a million times worse than the Dionne quints because people didn't even have to leave their chair to watch them. Oh, this is not going to end well, I fear.
Tucker's Mom said... 162
To this day, there are a lot of people who think he left, when he did not. They think he cheated on his wife, when really, the marriage was over and whatever people saw at the time was fakery for filming.
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That's right. TLC was showing episodes where Jon and Kate were together, but in reality their marriage was over and Jon was living outside the main home (above the garage has been stated) and the footage had been shot earlier, before the split. So people were seeing rag mag photos of Jon going out when the episodes airing had been filmed when they were still together. It's a point the fans either don't understand or refuse to admit.
The story is coming fast and furious now.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/08/31/kate-jon-gosselin-son-collin-refuse-tell-where-treated-location/
Now I'm wondering if the People story was Kate trying to manipulate TLC to get back on the air. If she cooked up this cover story with Kate Coyne as a way to get them to put her on the schedule. And I wonder if she overplayed her hand. She's now opened a Pandora's box of crap that I'm sure TLC wasn't counting on having to deal with, stuff that will make them look really bad. On top of which, they already had the Collin "explanation" to sort out.
I would love it if the coming shitstorm---completely put in motion by Her Heinous---brings about the end of K8.
Formerly Duped (#176), when I think of a "full rack," TFW does come to mind (see what I did there?).
Rhymes With Witch, are you out there? Would love to hear from you and Roo.
Tucker's Mom said... 136
Hi Tamara. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense at all. We are definitely not hearing the whole story.
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Hiya back TM. I am a bit blown away by what I've been reading vs what I thought was going on. Wow. I never thought that Jon would let it get this bad. Anyone remember when Mady was a daddy's girl? As for Collin, I don't even know what to say because no real information is out there. Can a parent institutionalise a child for no real reason if they have enough money? Is that even what has happened or is he just going to boarding school? So many questions, so few answers.
What Dr. Lafair needs to do is take the judgment and put a lien on the house or one of the sports cars and when it is sold, she can get her money.
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No, she shouldn't do that or shouldn't have done that. Sylvia Lafair took the high road and walked away. That's exactly what she should have done, and not stooped to Kate's level.
@Layla The racks were full?But how can that be when milo claims she got the last copy at her store and that they were selling out like crazy where she lives?Clearly as a hater,you must be lying.
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Gladys bought up all the copies to wallpaper her bathroom?
I guess the sheeple will now start bleating about how Jon needs money so he's selling stories to the rag mags. My question to them would be what's the difference between that and TFW's people story?
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It would be absolutely futile to ask them any questions that would require logical thinking, so you just kind of grin and bear it to see in what way they would spin it! Then you have a good hearty chuckle about it!
Has an emergency damage control/deflection meeting been called in the barnyard?
I remember when Jon expressed his concern that some of the kids had issues -- anger, socialization, whatever, and Kate went public, firing back that all of the kids are healthy, happy and thriving.
Sure, they were. That's why Collin isn't among the six pack at home anymore.
I bet she can't stand the fact that Jon publicly expressed his concern about this and she refuted it. How do your words taste, Kate, since you had to eat them? Do you prefer ketchup or mustard?
For those who post here and have Kate's number (and have for years), I remain utterly perplexed by how she continues to control the narrative. She says she has been alone dealing with Colin's issues, yet no-one thinks to ask her, "why didn't you involve your ex-husband in your child's behavioural issues and struggles?" It's not an especially tough question, but an obvious one to ask I think. She chose to deal with alone, no one asked her to do this without involving Jon or other family members!
Another part of that article quotes Mady slamming her father for talking about them in public, yet she cannot see what their mother is doing by outing her brother's struggles so publicly.
The parents who part and continue to put their children above their own issues have all of my respect and admiration.
Warmth (#187), TFW sure did get her knickers in a twist over Jon's comments. And she claimed she had to respond because some day her kids would read what he said, and she wanted them to know that she came to their defense. As if he was some random stranger making snide comments, and not the children's own father.
Lady, defending your kids in one stupid statement -- which we now know wasn't even accurate -- won't counteract a decade of exposing their private lives to the masses so you wouldn't have to see another bedpan.
Hey! Warmth of the Sun!
Her mouth doesn't allow ketchup and mustard, because the mediocre and unwashed masses use it for their hamburgers and hot dogs.
But she green lights KOBE BEEF!
Big stack of People at my local grocery too. Funny thing, the front one was turned backwards as I checked out. LOL
jamezvader1194 (177),
I assure you, they were full. I was a little shocked when I walked down the line and didn't see any People mags. I thought--did they really sell out? Then I lifted up one of the Country Living mags, and saw the People behind it. Looking down the line, I could see that they were all the same--from the side, the spines of the magazines (CL and People) are different. Someone had done the same to each rack. I found it hilarious! Of course, it had to be one of you--you know the only people on the planet who don't adore Kate are the ones who gather here at our beloved little cesspool of hate.
So come on, fess up--who did it?
asked her to do this without involving Jon or other family members!
Another part of that article quotes Mady slamming her father for talking about them in public, yet she cannot see what their mother is doing by outing her brother's struggles so publicly.
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It's called brainwashing. Kate has poisoned Mady's mind (and probably the rest of them) against Jon that they can't see the forest for the trees. It's the one thing that Kate is really, really good at accomplishing.
Mady used to be a nice, sweet kid...a bit spunky and sassy, but now she's turned into a mini-Kate and it's neither an attractive nor positive character trait. It certainly makes her look like a spoiled, mouthy brat.
Do you think that the kids that don't want to see Jon are angry at him for letting them film again? At the time of the clam up interview they were still not filming and they had nothing bad they wanted to say about Jon. Now M is major resentful and, to me, doesn't want to say why. She has NEVER not said what was on her mind, no matter if it was hurtful or not. In fact, she seems to love to say hurtful things. Hummm, sound like someone she knows.
Sad but true said... 181
Now I'm wondering if the People story was Kate trying to manipulate TLC to get back on the air.
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Possible. I thought that, too. I haven't seen the whole article, but haven't heard that any mention of when her show is due to air was in there. It's only a month away, supposedly.
I don't know, but if the reports of recent filming in FL were true (only one sighting, afaik), TLC is still churning out the episodes.
Has an emergency damage control/deflection meeting been called in the barnyard?
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The barnyard has been all but abandoned. Kate's Twitter has gone from a porn-fest to just the regular haters beating the drum. Kate's old Twitter sheep seem to have jumped ship.
There's nothing and no one to rally.
I don't think IG is a medium for a love, or hate-fest.
End of an era for Kate's Twitter.
I bet she can't stand the fact that Jon publicly expressed his concern about this and she refuted it. How do your words taste, Kate, since you had to eat them? Do you prefer ketchup or mustard?
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I think Kate let Jon's statement (true as it was) about his kids having challenges really get to her. I think she made a serious miscalculation by blasting Jon's words and downright lying.
There's no doubt that Jon spoke the truth, and Kate was once again farting rainbows.
Stuff like this, and the now public knowledge that TLC tried to bribe Jon to stay and film that sham marriage is so outrageous, that I don't get how Kate and her show still stand.
If all this stuff about Colin, and the real backstory of the demise of J+K+8 doesn't make people realize how Kate has lied and spun for years, I don't know what will.
These butt-kissing sheep are so darn annoying...
Denise @Mydmaxx 38m38 minutes ago
@timbertech @Kateplusmy8 @people Saw this photo in magazine and thought what a perfect photo spot! Beautiful lady, deck & background! 😘
Would that be the lesbian deck or the preacher deck, Denise?
Jumping In said... 188
For those who post here and have Kate's number (and have for years), I remain utterly perplexed by how she continues to control the narrative.
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Amen, me too. This has to be incredible tough on the kids, and nothing so far will stop Kate from filming.
It's indecent and abusive.
njay said... 194
Do you think that the kids that don't want to see Jon are angry at him for letting them film again?
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I sort of do. I wonder if some of the kids are angry that Jon has been passive, or at least, ineffectual. They might be waiting for a grand gesture, for Jon to take the bull by the horns and get past all the obstacles Kate puts in the way.
For Jon to put his foot down and save them from having to make the choice between Mom and Dad-for him to make that choice for them.
Insisting that he see them might do just that.
I think they need to see Jon get MAD, and be on fire for them.
I don't think IG is a medium for a love, or hate-fest.
End of an era for Kate's Twitter.
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And yet the regular haters keep beating the old drums, keeping it alive. Why?
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