Saturday, August 20, 2016

"I don’t want to mar my children’s glory and subvert their beginnings for my so-called art" and Kate and kids in People magazine, minus Collin

Popular "Mommy blogger" and writer Elizabeth Bastos has packed up shop after realizing (with the help of one concerned grandfather) her posts were intruding on her children's right to privacy.


Photographer: Sally Mann

Her epiphany: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/why-i-decided-to-stop-writing-about-my-children/

And here's the September 2016 People article feature Kate and kids, sans Collin.




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Tucker's Mom said...

Denise ‏@Mydmaxx 38m38 minutes ago
@timbertech @Kateplusmy8 @people Saw this photo in magazine and thought what a perfect photo spot! Beautiful lady, deck & background! ๐Ÿ˜˜

Timbertech guy is still trying to get some mileage out of Kate's deck (which he probably wanted publicity for, in trade, for installing).

Sherry Baby said...

I'm surprised that crazy Kate look-alike wannabe who kept pestering her about her orange dress (block party) and purple blouse (barbecue) hasn't yet jumped in to ask her where she bought the white dress!

Sad but true said...

So the last night's Duggar episode are down almost 140K from their "premiere" last week. And that's with both a wedding and baby coming. I think we're seeing the end of an era. I hope TLC's got some new trick up its sleeve, because there's no way the "reality" genre is going to hold up a bottom line anymore.

Sandylove said...

I assure you, they were full. I was a little shocked when I walked down the line and didn't see any People mags. I thought--did they really sell out? Then I lifted up one of the Country Living mags, and saw the People behind it. Looking down the line, I could see that they were all the same--from the side, the spines of the magazines (CL and People) are different. Someone had done the same to each rack. I found it hilarious! Of course, it had to be one of you--you know the only people on the planet who don't adore Kate are the ones who gather here at our beloved little cesspool of hate.

So come on, fess up--who did it?
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Layla, it wasn't me but I posted a couple days ago that I turned every issue the other way in my local grocery store here in Orange County, Calif and because I go in there almost everyday, I would always check to see if they were still that way. I didn't think to put another magazine in front of it, that was a smart idea! But a couple of the checkstands had it turned the right way so of COURSE I had to turn it around again and giggled to myself each time I did it!

Zoe said...

Isn't the filming done by Figure 8 and then purchased and aired by TLC? Could it be that Kate is bankrolling this year's supposed filming and hoping to get TLC to pick it up?

GollyGee said...

Zoe said... 6
Isn't the filming done by Figure 8 and then purchased and aired by TLC? Could it be that Kate is bankrolling this year's supposed filming and hoping to get TLC to pick it up?

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She actually used the word, investment. She was speaking of Colin getting treatment. She must of thought she could get him better and then continue on filming for TLC.

Because remember, she doesn't get paid if one of the actors (if one of the kids) is not able to be filmed due to being sick or hurt.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



Denise ‏@Mydmaxx 38m38 minutes ago
@timbertech @Kateplusmy8 @people Saw this photo in magazine and thought what a perfect photo spot! Beautiful lady, deck & background! ๐Ÿ˜˜

Timbertech guy is still trying to get some mileage out of Kate's deck (which he probably wanted publicity for, in trade, for installing).


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What in the heck? Are these people nuts? A 12 year old child is in an inpatient program after 10 years of being exploited, a national magazine is blabbing about it, and he's going on about his lesbian deck?

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 8
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What in the heck? Are these people nuts? A 12 year old child is in an inpatient program after 10 years of being exploited, a national magazine is blabbing about it, and he's going on about his lesbian deck?
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Why yes, yes he is.

TimberTech
‏@timbertech
See @Kateplusmy8 in the September 5th issue of @people Magazine on her beautiful #TimberTechDeck!

And why shouldn't he make money off the backs of his clients? Taking a page from K8's own book.

Tucker's Mom said...

What in the heck? Are these people nuts? A 12 year old child is in an inpatient program after 10 years of being exploited, a national magazine is blabbing about it, and he's going on about his lesbian deck?
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Uh, not only that, but the Deckster was supposed to be for the children's well being, so....um, fail?

Sad but true said...

Why would someone recommend this? She could care less about family. I believe she's made that perfectly clear.

XXXXX ‏@XXXXX
@Kateplusmy8 just watched the Korean BBQ episode. Have you thought about doing a DNA test for genealogy purposes? If not I recommend it! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm noticing emojis work on blogger now. Did those work before? kinda cool! ๐Ÿ‘

Tucker's Mom said...

Sad but true said... 11
Why would someone recommend this? She could care less about family. I believe she's made that perfectly clear.

XXXXX ‏@XXXXX
@Kateplusmy8 just watched the Korean BBQ episode. Have you thought about doing a DNA test for genealogy purposes? If not I recommend it! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
August 31, 2016 at 6:12 PM
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I got popcorn stuck up my nose when I read this!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

yet no-one thinks to ask her, "why didn't you involve your ex-husband in your child's behavioural issues and struggles?" It's not an especially tough question, but an obvious one to ask I think.


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Or grandparents, or her close friends, or teachers, or Wrap Around.

Obvious questions are never asked. This is the downfall of journalism--journalists like Coyne get afraid to ask anything substantial or press subjects on anything because your subject might say that's it no more interviews if you ask questions like that. If all journalists just agreed to always ask whatever they wanted, celebs wouldn't have that leverage. Kate has the leverage and because of it, there's a whole lot of nothing that comes out of her interviews.

Some of the best interviews with her was with Joy and another with Ellen, where they were actually being a real journalist and following up and asking some tough questions.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


No, she shouldn't do that or shouldn't have done that. Sylvia Lafair took the high road and walked away. That's exactly what she should have done, and not stooped to Kate's level.


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That's the only thing you can do with a narcissist. And it's what you should do. Just walk away. The problem is when you have children with them, and can't walk away completely.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

What in the heck? Are these people nuts? A 12 year old child is in an inpatient program after 10 years of being exploited, a national magazine is blabbing about it, and he's going on about his lesbian deck?

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Are we sure it's the lesbian deck? I still haven't figured out how to distinguish it from the preacher deck. I think Auntie knows, but alas, sadly she's not here. :(

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Because remember, she doesn't get paid if one of the actors (if one of the kids) is not able to be filmed due to being sick or hurt.

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Has this been confirmed? So if they film without Collin, the episodes are freebies for TLC? I kind of doubt that.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Admin Im sure Kate would just answer back by saying that her family is helping out privately (well her parents and 2 sisters since Kevin and Kendra said they aren't around)and because the 2 sisters never spoke out publicly about their relationship with Kate,no one would challenge Kate and ask if they really are there and helping.

Tucker's Mom said...


Obvious questions are never asked. This is the downfall of journalism--journalists like Coyne get afraid to ask anything substantial or press subjects on anything because your subject might say that's it no more interviews if you ask questions like that.
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Like Billy Bush who was reporting the the Today show and NBC for the olympics. Ryan Lochte lied right to his face during his now infamous (still stoned) interview on the beach.
Al Roker and Natalie Morales both ripped Lochte for lying on their show, but Billy Bush would not state the obvious.
"He exaggerated', blah, blah, blah.
Bush, the trash tabloid reporter, was too scared to actually be a journalist (and call Lochte the obvious liar he is) because maybe Lochte and other "celebs" would opt not to do another interview with him.
Yeah, Bush is really bringing the level of reporting up on the Today show. Not. It's turned into Access Hollywood A.M. version with him on the show.

Susan1956 said...

Ryan Lochte lied right to his face during his now infamous (still stoned) interview on the beach.
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Anyone want to predict how far Lochte will go on DWTS? I'm thinking he'll be one of the very first to go.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

XXXXX ‏@XXXXX
@Kateplusmy8 just watched the Korean BBQ episode. Have you thought about doing a DNA test for genealogy purposes? If not I recommend it! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
August 31, 2016 at 6:12 PM
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I got popcorn stuck up my nose when I read this!!

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Jon, you *are* the father!

Tamara said...

Tucker's Mom said... 200
njay said... 194
Do you think that the kids that don't want to see Jon are angry at him for letting them film again?
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I sort of do. I wonder if some of the kids are angry that Jon has been passive, or at least, ineffectual. They might be waiting for a grand gesture, for Jon to take the bull by the horns and get past all the obstacles Kate puts in the way.
For Jon to put his foot down and save them from having to make the choice between Mom and Dad-for him to make that choice for them.
Insisting that he see them might do just that.
I think they need to see Jon get MAD, and be on fire for them.
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I know I'm repeating myself here, but with the years long gap it is startling how much has not changed for these kids and that was has changed has gotten worse. The comment about Jon taking the bull by the horns and DOING something could be an exact quote from three or four years ago. Disappointing all around. At this point if half the kids come out fairly healthy it will be considered a win.

Also interesting to note that it's the same four kids who've been worrisome for about a decade now.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

60 minutes is one of the last great journalism still out there. I never leave an Anderson Cooper or Lara Logan story thinking: why didn't they ask that?

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Sad but true Ouch,did the duggars really only get around 140k viewers?If so,TLC has no choice anymore they would have to cancel there's is no excuse anymore.I wonder what Kate's views will be IF TLC ever does decide to air episodes with or without a lead in.

Sad but true said...

Someone's calling the paps again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3767922/Kate-Gosselin-hands-fills-two-large-shopping-carts-Target-buying-supplies-eight-children.html

NOIP said...

Sherry Baby said... 1
"I don't think IG is a medium for a love, or hate-fest.
End of an era for Kate's Twitter.
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And yet the regular haters keep beating the old drums, keeping it alive. Why?"

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Same reasons this blog keeping "beating same drums"
Why do you rag on the 'haters' for expressing our opinions on Kate as you do here? She can't see what we tweet unless she looks same as she can't see what you write unless she looks, and we know she does. So on it goes until she's off our TV's and the Gosselin kids get their freedom to be kids. Not much time left for them to have a childhood.

Midnight Madness said...

She can't see what we tweet unless she looks same as she can't see what you write unless she looks, and we know she does.

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If she can't see what you tweet, then why do you tweet TO her if you know she has you blocked? Does that make sense? I guess I'm missing something in this whole picture, but it looks to me like many of the haters tweet directly to her rather than discussing things about her.

Nobody here makes vile and obscene comments TO Kate, nor to others who post here who offer differing opinions.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tweeting TO someone is very different than having a discussion about them elsewhere. You just can't equate the two. It's irrelevant whether they choose to look at the tweets or not. That;s like saying it's okay to harass someone with letters in their mailbox as long as they never open them.

Sad but true said...

Jamesvader1194 said... 24
@Sad but true Ouch,did the duggars really only get around 140k viewers? . . .

No, they were DOWN that many from last week. 1.055mm viewers. Still significant given all the "new" storylines they have going.

Math Girl said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 26
Tweeting TO someone is very different than having a discussion about them elsewhere. You just can't equate the two. It's irrelevant whether they choose to look at the tweets or not. That;s like saying it's okay to harass someone with letters in their mailbox as long as they never open them.
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I think people use @kateplusmy8 on twitter when they should be using #kateplusmy8. In other words, they are talking about her, not really addressing her. But that error seems to be common all over twitter.

Twitter is a real mess, and I'm not surprised that Kate has gone to instagram, where she can control the conversation (delete comments she doesn't like). It is ideal for what she wants to do: make a pronouncement (post a picture) and have the sheep react with variations of "how cute", "what an awesome mom you are", etc. No back and forth. Milo misses that, and has tried to bring the twitter wars to instagram, but has been thwarted by the deletion of the dissenting comments. She's really missing twitter and her opportunities to defend her queen.

Susan1956 said...

Sad but true said... 25

Someone's calling the paps again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3767922/Kate-Gosselin-hands-fills-two-large-shopping-carts-Target-buying-supplies-eight-children.html
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Comments are negative. I really think she's overplayed her hand this time.

SarahK said...

Even if Kate does see the tweets of the non fans on her timeline, would it really make a difference? Nothing that any of them says would make her sit up and see that exploitation of her kids is having a negative effect on them and is robbing them of their childhood, nor that turning her kids against Jon is one of the worst things a parent can do in a divorce situation. There would be no epiphany as a result of their tweeting to her.

I can't imagine that anything any of them tweet would make one iota of a difference in her life. It certainly won't cure her addiction to fame and fortune. She's beyond help where that is concerned.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT Wednesday night watched result show for America's Got Talent and the hubby actually VOTED FOR A REALITY SHOW CONTESTANT for first time EVER. There were three acts up for elimination and viewers got to vote for the "Dunkin' Save" sponsored by Dunkin donuts of course. DH and I voted for Tapeface, so glad he will be back for the finals! He is brilliant mime who performs with black tape over his mouth. He's outs ALWAYS in character. Hilarious! We love him because he is different. So many great acts this year!

GollyGee said...

What in the heck? Are these people nuts? A 12 year old child is in an inpatient program after 10 years of being exploited, a national magazine is blabbing about it, and he's going on about his lesbian deck?

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He will regret ever building her that deck and sending out tweets about the People cover.

GollyGee said...

Sheepless In Seattle said... 17
Because remember, she doesn't get paid if one of the actors (if one of the kids) is not able to be filmed due to being sick or hurt.

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Has this been confirmed? So if they film without Collin, the episodes are freebies for TLC? I kind of doubt that.

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She gets paid the big bucks for the episode but, they dock the pay for the kid or kids if they don't film. She doesn't intend to lose a penny of film money. That is why she dragged a tup girl shopping when she had a migraine and Joel when his back was hurting.

She refused to leave filming when Cara's ankle was almost broken and hurting her. She made one of the nanny's take her to the doctor. She ignored Mady's stomach pain for a month!

She is evil.

Jeanne said...

I had just a minute to scan the article in People in the checkout line. There was a page with lots of kids pictures, one girl blowing bubbles, and a sad little picture of the two boys sitting together. No action pics for them or individual pics. On the next page, there was a picture looking from the grass up at Kate standing in the corner of her deck, surveying her kingdom. From that pic the deck wasn't really visible except a support column. On the same page was a quote box from Kate. (Not exact words) She thinks about the good things and the bad things and regrets nothing at all. Is that the narcissist or the sociopath? I don't know how to live without any regrets. And it's such a lie because she seems to regret marrying Jon.

She has gotten so boring. She bought supplies at Target? How incredible. No one else in this world shops. She's so special.

Unknown said...

Adding to the list GollyGee made, just off the top of my head:
-it's why she filmed the episode with all the children sick with the flu, vomiting, feverish and miserable
-dragged Collin to the store constipated and in pain
-didn't turn the both around and continued filming the kids even when they started puking their guts out
-allowed the crew to film the children without her present, whenever she had to film elsewhere (cupcake DC episode, mady and cara getting head shots or that time she and jon took mady and cara to Cali and the tups were split into two groups and we had footage from 3 different locations!)
-filmed the kids at aunt jodie's when she and jon took one child out at a time(for the special day)
I am now starting to suspect t

Tucker's Mom said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3767922/Kate-Gosselin-hands-fills-two-large-shopping-carts-Target-buying-supplies-eight-children.html
^^^^^^
I guess Kate still has Chris on speed dial.
C'mon...everyone looks all done up and cute as can be, and there's the now infamous twins helping their sainted mother Kate and the pap just happens to be hanging out at a Target in suburban PA when Kate happens to go shopping?
Nah. Not buying it.
Next we'll see the paps at the bus stop.
Kate misses the days when she was the queen of the tabloids. She'll do anything to stay relevant.

Tucker's Mom said...

Nobody here makes vile and obscene comments TO Kate, nor to others who post here who offer differing opinions.
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15 min. is not social media. Sure, someone can dig really deep and find us but they'd have to be trying, vs. just seeking out the social media of a "celeb".
There you find the same foul, vulgar nastiness directly AT Kate and AT anyone who supports her. Unsuspecting passers by who Tweet Kate about anything positive or supportive becomes a target.
Deck guy sounds opportunistic and willfully oblivious to the plight of the children, but I'm not going to contact him in any way or tell people to boycott him and his business.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sad but true said... 29
Jamesvader1194 said... 24
@Sad but true Ouch,did the duggars really only get around 140k viewers? . . .

No, they were DOWN that many from last week. 1.055mm viewers. Still significant given all the "new" storylines they have going.
August 31, 2016 at 9:05 PM
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They're SO boring that I'm not surprised the Duggar women and their even more boring and one-dimensional husbands are getting crappy numbers.
Wow, your dating/getting married/having babies. No one in the history of the world has ever done that before...

Tucker's Mom said...

The gestalt I get is that people are sick of Twitter. The stupid celeb twitter wars, stupid sh*t people say in the heat of the moment and the general lack of intelligent content (which attracts people who can't spell or string more than 140 characters together).
I think it's going the way of My Space.

Tucker's Mom said...

There would be no epiphany as a result of their tweeting to her.

I can't imagine that anything any of them tweet would make one iota of a difference in her life. It certainly won't cure her addiction to fame and fortune. She's beyond help where that is concerned.
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Kate is convinced that fame is the only way, as is offering her children's privacy to the public and throwing friends and relatives to the curb.
Kate sees herself as incredibly strong and determined, while the rest of the world sees a really sick woman.
Well, except anyone who's on Kate's dole.

Tucker's Mom said...

JoyinVirginia said... 33
OT Wednesday night watched result show for America's Got Talent and the hubby actually VOTED FOR A REALITY SHOW CONTESTANT for first time EVER.
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I've never voted, but I do enjoy TapeFace. The couple shooting crossbows is creepy. That young girl (12?) is freaking amazing-reminds me of a young Joni Mitchell.

Layla said...

There is a story on Daily Mail about more advertisers pulling their ads (Gerber Life, Trivago, Thumbtack.com, hot-wire) from TLC because the ads aired during the Duggars' new show. It looks likeTLC is taking whatever ads they have, airing them when they feel like it (or need it) and ignoring the companies' wishes. Has TLC forgotten that the companies can simply refuse to advertise in their network altogether?

Bravo to the companies pulling their ads! If TLC refuses to play by the rules, then they should suffer the consequences. The sooner TLC goes bankrupt, the better. They keep exploiting children for money--they should pay a price.

Tucker's Mom said...

She thinks about the good things and the bad things and regrets nothing at all. Is that the narcissist or the sociopath? I don't know how to live without any regrets. And it's such a lie because she seems to regret marrying Jon.

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That's a sociopath. Kate's regret for marrying Jon is superceded by her hatred for him.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I think one of the most notable examples of TFW ignoring her children's needs was when she trotted off to LA for Jon's hairplug procedure while most of her 8 kids were quite sick with the flu. There was a free trip to LA coming to her, and she sure wasn't going to let some vomitous children spoil it for her. So they were dumped on Aunt Jodi,
and some of Jodi's 4 kids were sick, too. Yet
TFW hit the roof when Jodi was going to get compensated for show appearances, because no one makes money off of her kids but her.

Was TFW assisting in the scalp surgery? That's the only legitimate reason I can think of for her to have left a houseful of sick children. And the tups were toddlers -- little bitty kids. But I'm sure they learned at an early age not to count on their mother for comfort and tenderness.

Tucker's Mom said...

Layla said... 44
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TLC is playing with fire if they bring Josh Duggar back into the fold. It's bad enough that they put these deniers and bigots on tv, but bringing the child molester back will cause outrage.

If you want to get a good laugh at TLC programming (and just how far they've fallen), check out their new show, "Too Close To Home".

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/too-close-to-home/

It's like a B-movie meets a high school film project.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TFW begged and pleaded to keep that nurse on for an extra year on the state's dime, because she was SO worried about her fragile little babies. Poor, sickly, tiny waifs!

But fast forward only a few months later to
travel opportunities and speaking engagements
and room service and spa visits, and she was
ready to pawn all 8 kids off on anyone with a pulse. And happily admitted that being with them for a week, and then away from them for a week (?!), was what was worked best for her family.
Admit it, TFW, it's what worked best for YOU.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I realize TFW asked for the nurse because she claimed she simply couldn't give proper attention to all those kids on her own. But the same sentiment applies: why would she continue to pursue a career that took her hither, thither and yon if she was sincerely worried about her kids being cared for and nurtured properly?

MikeB said...

She's obviously in full promotion mode now. Publicizing her shipping Colin off to an inpatient facility to "get the help he needs", the article dragging Jon back through the mud even though she left him years ago, the one girl parroting Kate and calling Jon's relationship "toxic", the interview with the twins about how grown up they are getting, the new Instagram account, the new puppy, and now the first pap photo in years of her shopping at Target.

She must be really concerned about the ratings. Her 10 year anniversary has been postponed twice and the Super Bowl footage is now eight months old. There isn't anything interesting that she or her family has accomplished so she had to create drama to get her name trending.

She is nothing if not predictable.

The really sad part is she hurt a lot of people for nothing. Her regular fan base of about 1 million will tune in regardless, and those that haven't been fans certainly won't be swayed by her manufactured drama. All of this hurt and hatred toward Jon will have no effect on her show either way, but it definitely will continue to drive a wedge between the kids and their father which is likely what she really wants.

GollyGee said...

FlimsyFlamsy said...46

TFW hit the roof when Jodi was going to get compensated for show appearances, because no one makes money off of her kids but her.

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Aunt Jodi should of been compensated by TLC without the TFW's knowledge. As per, Nana Janet and others. You can pay them with Target, Giant gift cards.

Aunt Jodi had a dozen very sick kids and she took care of them. I wonder what the kids will say when they get older and see that episode of Aunt Jodi taking care of them ALL and they see their mom and dad leave on a vanity trip.

Then they see the reaction of TFW of Aunt Jodi getting compensated. And the reaction when Aunt Jodi had the kids over and they were ALL making cookies and everything ran smooth as silk and made TFW look like a loud, incompetent boob.

She put a stop to that.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I've never voted, but I do enjoy TapeFace. The couple shooting crossbows is creepy. That young girl (12?) is freaking amazing-reminds me of a young Joni Mitchell.

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I voted for the first time! Sal is my man! He won't win, of course, but he has so much charisma, and a great voice. My bet is on the young girl comedienne, who everyone thinks is funny, but I think she's mediocre and would never go to see her in an opening act. I can't understand their fascination with her.

I also liked Edgar, but alas...

"They're SO boring that I'm not surprised the Duggar women and their even more boring and one-dimensional husbands are getting crappy numbers.
Wow, your dating/getting married/having babies. No one in the history of the world has ever done that before..."

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I read this as non-dimensional, which also is applicable.

"Deck guy sounds opportunistic and willfully oblivious to the plight of the children, but I'm not going to contact him in any way or tell people to boycott him and his business."

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I wouldn't do that either. One day I may need a preacher deck, or a teacher deck, or just a garden-variety generic deck and old Matt isn't prejudiced when it comes to his decksters.

"She gets paid the big bucks for the episode but, they dock the pay for the kid or kids if they don't film. She doesn't intend to lose a penny of film money. That is why she dragged a tup girl shopping when she had a migraine and Joel when his back was hurting. "

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Are the terms of the contract public knowledge?

"He will regret ever building her that deck and sending out tweets about the People cover."

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I kind of doubt it. He was in it for the money and publicity. He got both. Someone like that isn't going to regret anything.

GollyGee said...

In Robert's book, there is a chapter, Kate vs. State.

In 2005, while fighting to retain a free, full-time nurse to care for her children, Kate Gosselin told the State of Pennsylvania in a letter that her children were disabled.

To Whom It May Concern:

This letter is in reference to the adverse determination as described in PA number 0433410338. (Please see enclosed letter).

We are appealing the decision made and desire to continue services during the appeal process. We have eight children four years old and under. Our six To Whom It May Concern: This letter is in reference to the adverse determination as described in PA number 0433410338. (Please see enclosed letter).

We are appealing the decision made and desire to continue services during the appeal process. We have eight children four years old and under. Our six youngest are 11 months old. In a sense our children (our six 11 month olds) are disabled.

They cannot feed themselves, transport themselves up and down stairs or at all, bathe themselves, get a drink when they are thirsty, go to the bathroom by themselves, put themselves to bed or dress themselves. Furthermore, and extremely dangerously, they do not know right from wrong or safe from unsafe. They will put anything of choking hazard size in their mouths, climb up or fall down any of the 4 flights of stairs (if the gate has been left open by our 4 year olds), pinch their fingers in anything they touch and shouldn’t, pull each other down, or poke each others eyes! Any one person cannot safely care for and keep eight children from danger, 12 hours per day, 5 days per week!

Take for instance bath time… How does one person have “X” number of babies in the tub, monitor the ones still in the tub while diapering and going to retrieve the next baby? Safely, that’s impossible! How does one person take 3 babies to the doctor, with no one to help and find a third capable person to watch the five children I’ve left behind? Each doctor’s appointment? Nearly Impossible!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Let's not forget Kate left the 6 in their cribs to "nap" or cry for hours.

She also would not turn boats around when the kids got sea-sick why? Mommy had to get her fish.
Let's not forget all the countless time she left them to trot off to do interviews.

She also waited by the phone while on vacation with Steve.

GollyGee said...

Part 2:

How does one person care for my six 11 month olds while effectively meeting the needs of 2 dear 4 year olds whose needs have been “put aside” all day, day after day? They have been patiently waiting their turns… which never come because one person is busily scurrying around to care for the babies needs which supersede their own! How does one person take 8 children for a walk?

Two strollers and 2 walking 4 year olds? A “normal” thing for any child? Impossible! How does one person care for all 8 children while never leaving the house for things that are very important such as 320 diapers weekly, 13 cases of formula per month, 112 jars of baby food per week not to mention, all the “normal” necessities or preschool drop-offs or pickups! Completely impossible!

Literally, we will be completely HOUSEBOUND! How does one person effectively evacuate eight children from 4 different rooms in the case of a fire? Or how does one person care for an injured bleeding child while 7 others are left unattended? Absolutely unsafe! And have we forgotten one thing? One stability in our constantly hectic, crazy lives? Continuity of care! “

Community Resources”— a list of college students or high school students available “here and there” as their schedules allow, who when other things come up aren’t afraid to cancel on us – thus leaving my children to wait for lunch or my 4 year olds home form preschool for lack of transportation. “Community Resources” – elderly ladies who cannot lift one 20 lbs. baby let alone 6 and who certainly cannot do stairs while carrying one or two babies! Baths are out of the question! Where will I find this person to walk in, take over for minimal pay as a home health aide, who we as parents trust, who our children trust and love and who will be able to on a whim do what 9 months (with our nurse) of history has built? Exactly my point!

By the time May 30 rolls around, a new person, will just be scratching the surface of learning our daily routine and handling the many time management challenges! That is all too exhausting and unworth it for me and my family! The past 9 months have run very safely and smoothly because of our constant caregiver, Angie. Thanks to our approval through Medicaid. Thank you! We can’t thank you enough for the amount of sanity in our crazy and unusual world, but we still need that same help now.

I am a very capable person and mother. I pride myself in organization, cleanliness and all American fun! However, at this stage in our lives, this task is bigger than even me! I hate asking for help but for the safety of each of my precious children, I must ask, because I love them. I need the constant care of our nurse Angie to continue! The previous scenarios are things I worry and pray about constantly.

I am thankful that none of them have happened and pray that our care will continue to help ensure that they won’t happen. Please come and spend some time in our home so you can see that what I’m telling you is true!

If it is possible to hold our hearing in Reading, I would like to attend in person. However, I strongly desire a home visit so that a clear picture can be demonstrated.

Sincerely, Kate and Jonathan Gosselin

Robert then said, First, it would do Kate some good to sit down at her computer and do some research on children with disabilities to find out what it’s like for people who really have a disabled child. Kate’s words in this letter make her sound not just unbelievably stupid, but shockingly removed from reality.

It would almost be amusing if it weren’t so truly pathetic. What Kate describes as disabilities are the characteristics of being a baby. Any baby. Every baby. No, babies can’t feed themselves or bathe themselves or dress themselves or go to the bathroom by themselves. They’re babies.

That’s part of the package.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


They cannot feed themselves, transport themselves up and down stairs or at all, bathe themselves, get a drink when they are thirsty, go to the bathroom by themselves, put themselves to bed or dress themselves.


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Yes, it's called a baby.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Take for instance bath time… How does one person have “X” number of babies in the tub, monitor the ones still in the tub while diapering and going to retrieve the next baby?


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Is this a LSAT exam logic puzzle? Um, you bathe one or two at a time while the rest wait in their cribs or high chairs? You completely bathe and dress the babies and then put them in their cribs or high chairs, then grab the next two? Why would leaving a baby alone in the tub ever be necessary?

Or, another idea, you get a sign up sheet with some church ladies. They seemed tickled pink to come over at all hours of the day to help.

That appeal board must have laughed their asses off.

Blowing In The Wind said...

That young girl (12?) is freaking amazing-reminds me of a young Joni Mitchell.


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Not sure about that one. She has been so pitchy and I had to wince a few times because of it.

The young opera girl has an amazing voice, but I don't know if it's enough to secure the win.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Another thing hilarious about her letter is that she signs it Kate and Jon, but it's all written from the first person her perspective. Plus all the exclamation points is a dead giveaway. I can see her not even showing that to Jon and just telling him what it said, lol.

I love how she laments being homebound. Geez, even one or two babies is going to leave you homebound. That's just how it works. That's why new parents often seem to have a case of cabin fever, but look back and laugh a few years later. She seems to have gotten out and about just fine in the years later.

Hey, who watched all her disabled children when she was typing out that wordy letter?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Take for instance bath time… How does one person have “X” number of babies in the tub, monitor the ones still in the tub while diapering and going to retrieve the next baby?
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Kate said Jon did bath time with the kids. And unless she was sitting on her rear-(don't doubt it) Kate probably did the diapering kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Another reason she cites as why she needs help is because, boo hoo, Mady and Cara are left out, don't get any attention anymore because of the babies.

Home services and our tax dollars are not there because a child is getting left out. That's life. They got a raw deal being the older kid of multiples, boo hoo. Most older siblings feel like they got a raw deal when a new baby comes. You'll make it up to them later and trust me they get over it. I'm the oldest, and there are a lot of advantages to it you appreciate later. So you're sulking when you are four, big whoop.

Localyocul said...

Buckle your seat belts http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-son-collin-treatment-spanked-troubled-boy-private-diaries/

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 55
Another reason she cites as why she needs help is because, boo hoo, Mady and Cara are left out, don't get any attention anymore because of the babies.
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And obviously, this never occurred to her before she just had to "try for one more." She had plenty of family members to help out with her children prior to the tups' pregnancy, and I'm sure she called on them plenty. It's just like everything else---a problem that exists only in her mind.

Anonymous said...

When the tups were eleven months old she actually complained "....they don't know right from wrong.....". She is supposed to be a nurse, what on earth did she expect - no wonder Collin has problems.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

MikeB said... 50
She's obviously in full promotion mode now. Publicizing her shipping Colin off to an inpatient facility to "get the help he needs", the article dragging Jon back through the mud even though she left him years ago, the one girl parroting Kate and calling Jon's relationship "toxic", the interview with the twins about how grown up they are getting, the new Instagram account, the new puppy, and now the first pap photo in years of her shopping at Target.
******
That's her play book.

NJGal51 said...

I don't think the young opera singer should even be in the competition because she has already won Romania's Got Talent. Therefore all of her crying and "I'm so blessed to make it this far" just rings false to me as do Simon's comments to her because he (and the other judges) know damn well that she won the other competition. I love Tape Face. I also like the quirky 12 year old singer.

My husband and I went to see Piff in Las Vegas and he puts on a great show.

Tucker's Mom said...

I love how she laments being homebound. Geez, even one or two babies is going to leave you homebound. That's just how it works. That's why new parents often seem to have a case of cabin fever, but look back and laugh a few years later. She seems to have gotten out and about just fine in the years later.
******
IIRC, locals and volunteers called b.s. on Kate's claim to being home bound and said she went out and even had a "date night" with Jon.
Speaking of bad journalism and interviewing, how about when Kate looked Dr. Phil right in the face and said that she literally didn't leave the house for 2 years.
Literally!!!!!!
Who took those kids to the doctor for check ups?

Formerly Duped said...

OT: 15 years since the finale of Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. Too bad the G kids or Kate never watch this kind and gentle program.

“I’m just so proud of all of you who have grown up with us. And I know how tough it is some days to look with hope and confidence on the months and years ahead, but I would like to tell you what I often told you when you were much younger: I like you just the way you are.”

Jane said...

Really enjoying America's Got Talent. Love Tape Face but was rooting for the magician Blake Vogt. Sorry to see him eliminated.

Tucker's Mom said...


Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 61
Another reason she cites as why she needs help is because, boo hoo, Mady and Cara are left out, don't get any attention anymore because of the babies.
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I think the twins got critical attention and interaction for their development when they were babies and toddlers. Way more than the tups did.
I think the tups had their basic needs met, and that's about it.
I think Kate thought about sleep, changings, feedings and bathing and had nothing leftover, and/or no interest in developing their brains and motor skills.
The tups spent an inordinate amount of time in their cribs, for way too long.

Layla said...

Mike B (50)

Yes, Kate's in full promotion mode right now. Only there's no upcoming show to promote--at least not in the near future. I think TLC is holding off on airing the shows and she's in a panic. She's pulling out all the stops to make herself seem newsworthy and interesting. I don't know if begging Chris the Pap to take pictures of her buying toilet paper at Target will do the trick, but she sure is trying.
What is that I smell coming from Ghettoville, PA? I Why, I think it's desperation, and boy, does it stink!

Tucker's Mom said...

Home services and our tax dollars are not there because a child is getting left out. That's life. They got a raw deal being the older kid of multiples, boo hoo.
*****
Jon and Kate had a village of helpers and family to help them, but the show made all that stop.

Tucker's Mom said...

Localyocul said... 62
Buckle your seat belts http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-son-collin-treatment-spanked-troubled-boy-private-diaries/
September 1, 2016 at 8:27 AM
******
Damn that's damning.
It shows that Kate witnessed Colin's difficulties VERY early on, but chose domination over him instead of intervention for Colin AND for herself.

TJ said...

http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-son-collin-treatment-spanked-troubled-boy-private-diaries/

FLmom said...

Ok, this may be a reach but....article with pap picture says it was taken Tuesday. Only three kids with Kate in pic. Jon said in article this week that Tuesdays are his visitation days. Who thinks the other kids were with their "absentee" father? I think he's an involved Dad despite what was printed in People.

Sad but true said...

When all else fails, well hey! Post some puppies! Clearly, Nanuq is the favorite here, I wonder that she bothered with the male at all.

kateplusmy8 Putting Nanuq to bed...she comes in my room and when I say 'paws up', she puts her front paws up on my bed and waits for me to lift her on! #PuppyLove #MakesMeSmile

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miloandjack2016 OMG!! I do exact same thing w/MissK!! Except I pat the bed twice and then say "betchen" sp? German for bed. Front paws up & she waits for me to lift her lil rear end up! I guess we #DogLovers think alike
@kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016Jack is big enough he just bounds up there! If Im already laying down he almost bounces me outta the bed! LOL. He weighs as much as me. How much do your pups weigh now? @kateplusmy8

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kateplusmy8 Awww! I love that we do the same thing! It's funny how those routines start...just like with kids. Amazing how much it feels like I have toddlers again! I love it ๐Ÿ˜! She will get big enough to jump up herself and it'll make me sad. I already know it! They go to vet again next week but if I have to guess.. Mak 50# and Nanuq 45#. I can still lift him. Kids can't anymore.

@miloandjack2016
kateplusmy8Haha! Guess they all know the 'talking to a dog voice' lol! @lisalu78

miloandjack2016And don't you just LOVE that #HeadTilt when you call her name? @kateplusmy8

Isn't it amazing that Kate and Milo do the exact. same. thing with their dogs? What a world!

FLmom said...

This dog nonsense is SO fake and irritating! I did a Google search and found this.

2010 quote--"My kids' lives have been changed and compromised and altered enough over the past year," Kate Gosselin tells PEOPLE. "I realized if I had two difficult kids I wouldn't send them away and ask for new kids." <<<<<<<

Dad Jon Gosselin returned the young pups to their trainer in September, at the height of his divorce drama with now-ex-wife Kate. At the time, Jon blamed the move on Kate, telling E! Online, "It's not fair to the dogs to not be wanted in their own home."

If that was the case, the reality mom has since changed her tune, telling PEOPLE, "I'd never quit on my kids, so why would I think I was going to quit on my dogs?" <<<<<

She adds that the pups will return to the family's Wernersville, Pa., home "once the weather warms up."

Mel said...

Just four months later on January 2, 2007, Kate caught Collin spilling a bag of beans and knocking over high chairs— and absolutely flipped! “I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib til Jon came home!” wrote the star,

Freak out and throw his body around.
Uh...yeah, that'll show him not to control his temper.

Poor little guy probably has shaken baby syndrome.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Jon and Kate had a village of helpers and family to help them, but the show made all that stop.

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That and the help not being good enough for Kate. The helpers were not reliable and changed over too much according to her. If someone is not reliable, fire them. As far as turnover, no guarantee there won't be lots of turnover with government workers. And she has some nerve to complaint about consistency with her kids when she's had a laundry list of crew members in and out of their lives.

Tucker's Mom said...

I would give Kate or any parent a pass on getting a family pet to help build spirits when something as upsetting as sending a child away has to occur. But, my God, the public lavishing of attention and affection on the puppies is so incredibly tone def.
The People cover and photo shoot, the travel and filming and the puppies who are loved on and doted upon like Colin never was is just so wrong. To blather on about these new loves of Kate's life, on social media ,on a daily basis, is insensitive to a son who is living away from home in an inpatient facility.
I swear she's a sociopath.

Tucker's Mom said...

Poor little guy probably has shaken baby syndrome.
September 1, 2016 at 9:55 AM
*****
Sadly, I hope that his medical team is fully evaluating Colin for this possibility.

Jeanne said...

Aunt Jodi wasn't really tossed away because of money. She was tossed away because she made Kate look bad. She could handle taking care of them without turning into a raving lunatic. Kate couldn't handle the kids because she is not capable of putting anyone else's needs ahead of her own. Good mothers know that often the child's needs come first, especially in those early years. Of course there is exhaustion and frustration. But there are many rewards to being a mother. Kate is missing those rewards due to her issues. The letter to the state was wrong. Kate has the disability, an inability to feel love and compassion.

Localyocul said...

One of the recent articles, I think it was the InTouch article, said that he has them every other weekend and most Tuesday evenings. The twins, Alexis, and Collin had not been going so I think you're right

Serendipity said...

Sadly, I hope that his medical team is fully evaluating Colin for this possibility.

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You know, I was going to comment about this, but I didn't want to open up the proverbial can of worms. I wonder if, during those times when she whipped him into his crib, something happened to him physically from which his body didn't heal, and he was never diagnosed.

I really and truly hope that's not the case.

RoxyHelen said...

FLmom said... 75

Ok, this may be a reach but....article with pap picture says it was taken Tuesday. Only three kids with Kate in pic. Jon said in article this week that Tuesdays are his visitation days. Who thinks the other kids were with their "absentee" father? I think he's an involved Dad despite what was printed in People.
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I don't think it's a reach, especially since the third girl in the pics appears to be Alexis.

Localyocul said...

Localyocul said... 83
One of the recent articles, I think it was the InTouch article, said that he has them every other weekend and most Tuesday evenings. The twins, Alexis, and Collin had not been going so I think you're Right

..,,

Sorry this was in response to Flm #75

GollyGee said...

The pictures of Colin in the ROL article are

ARE DEVASTATING AND HEARTBREAKING!!!!

Headline of article:

Collin's Hell! Kate Gosselin Admitted She 'Spanked' Troubled Son Years Before Treatment

It has officially hit the fan now! IF this doesn't stop that ABUSIVE SOCIOPATH from filming and exploiting the kids and Colin especially, NOTHING WILL!

Jamesvader1194 said...

@MikeB Its odd how fans are still asking her when new episodes are coming out and yet she's ignoring them.If she does have an air date then why not make an announcement on both twitter and instagram to all the fans who are asking?

Anonymous said...

I noticed she purchased Scott toilet paper. I thought Northern was her brand of choice, or what that just for grifting purposes.

bm

Layla said...

Serendipity (84)

I have wondered the same thing. Beating C and whipping him into his crib could very well have resulted in some kind of head trauma. Children often do not entirely heal from untreated head injuries.

localyocul said...

Anonymous said... 89
I noticed she purchased Scott toilet paper. I thought Northern was her brand of choice, or what that just for grifting purposes.

bm

(((

I noticed that Mady is carrying a bedding set.

Formerly Duped said...

Yes, it's not Leah but Alexis in that photo.

localyocul said...

When they are evaluating children for such problems, or even sometimes other medical issues, they go back to the womb. I know someone who had to fill out forms for an ADHD eval and they had questions about pregnancy, birth weight, milestones, etc. as well as injuries. I'm sure TFW isn't going to fess up though and I doubt they would do an mri as a routine eval tool

NJGal51 said...

http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-son-collin-treatment-spanked-troubled-boy-private-diaries/
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Well the proverbial shit may have just hit the fan. What say you TLC? When are the new episodes going to air? We all know TFW's response will be to publish more puppy pictures. This is going to be interesting (she said while rubbing her hands together) because it seems that TFW's people interview may have just backfired big time!

Jillygee said...

That radar article is so short. One paragraph. I wish it were more detailed. The horrors she put that child through and all her lies need to be put out to the public once and for all.

Jane said...

Jillygee, it's about 6-7 pages. Click on the arrow in the photos.

Jillgee said...

Thanks Jane.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jillygee said... 95
That radar article is so short. One paragraph. I wish it were more detailed. The horrors she put that child through and all her lies need to be put out to the public once and for all.
September 1, 2016 at 12:02 PM
******
For me, it was very effective. Radar's piece was a poignant counterpoint to Kate publicly sensationalizing Colin's challenges and out-of-the-home treatment, and makes her look positively glib about the situation.
This Radar post and many others show Kate grinning like an assclown in People magazine. Kate's IG account has shown her elated over her puppies and loving and doting on them like they're her new pride and joy. Twitter reports have her traveling and vacationing, and of course, filming like always.
All while Colin has recently been placed out of the home in an institution.
This looks as bad as anything I've seen about Kate in all these years.
Taking into account the article, all those photos and Kate's pre-occupation with her new puppies, Colin is practically an afterthought.
If Kate didn't mention Colin was sent off alone, for who knows how long, you'd never guess on of her children was in really having problems

Lynne In RI said...

Tuckers (39: "you find the same foul, vulgar nastiness directly AT Kate and AT anyone who supports her. Unsuspecting passers by who Tweet Kate about anything positive or supportive becomes a target."

)))))))))))))))

That's what I don't understand. Wouldn't you best make your point if you tweeted with some civility instead of using the F, C and B words (among others)? It seems to me that you lose all credibility when you tweet like that. Not pearl clutching, but I wonder if those who use that garbage talk do so in real life, or only on Twitter.

Layla said...

Oh gosh, I looked at the ROL article and the pictures of the tups, with Collin off to the side by himself are heartbreaking. Of course, there was someone posting a comment in support of Kate, the usual Kate-fan party line about how she has 8 kids, it's different than having 1 or 2 kids, blah, blah, blah. So, this fan thinks it's okay to destroy a child because there are 7 others? How can they ever think it's okay to do such harm to a child?

Lynne In RI said...

Tucker's (98): "All while Colin has recently been placed out of the home in an institution.
This looks as bad as anything I've seen about Kate in all these years."

))))))))))))))))

Yes, it does. She has done so many things that have backfired on her, but this one ranks right up there among the worst, and yet she continues, and will never get it.

Jon was right. Fame and money. The kids and their need for privacy, love and attention from their mother means nothing to her. It's really very sad and my heart goes out to that child. She's about as selfish as it gets.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Does Gladys realize the only reason TFW engaged her in that nauseating back-and-forth puppy lovefest today was to deflect from the Radar
story? Gladys doesn't care why -- she must be
basking in the glow of Her Highness' attention.
Take that, haters -- TFW loves her!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Yes the pap was out in Pa at target at the exact time Kate & kids were shopping....Yeah that believable.

And I'm a unicorn.

Jane said...

Looks like she's on Radar's nasty list. Another article...

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-son-collin-treatment-fans-slam-telling-all-special-needs/

Tucker's Mom said...

http://popsoundoff.com/kate-plus-8-fans-slam-kate-gosselin-for-telling-all-about-son-collins-treatment/

Oops, Kate better scrub those negative comments off her IG before tabloid sites pick them up!

Tucker's Mom said...

Of course, there was someone posting a comment in support of Kate, the usual Kate-fan party line about how she has 8 kids, it's different than having 1 or 2 kids, blah, blah, blah.
*****
I know. Blah blah blah...can't go back to nursing...blah blah blah...how is she supposed to support 8 kids...blah blah blah...Kate's doing it All ALONE...

She's RICH. Very wealthy and has made millions and millions. She doesn't need to film. And the only reason she's doing it all alone is by choice.

Tucker's Mom said...

And I'm a unicorn.
*****
I *knew* it, chef!

Sad but true said...

I can only imagine Milo's referring to herself:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 57s57 seconds ago
Alot of THIS out there! #KnowNothing critics influenced by #TabloidInnuedoAndMisinformation @Kateplusmy8

Below this is a little placard:

Definition of Stupid:
Knowing the truth, seeing the truth,
But still believing the lies.

This is Milo to a T! Doesn't matter how much evidence you put in front of her face, she'll still deny it all. People like her are why Kate's been able to get away with it for so long.

Over And Out said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 57s57 seconds ago
Alot of THIS out there! #KnowNothing critics influenced by #TabloidInnuedoAndMisinformation @Kateplusmy8

Doesn't Milo do this when it comes to Jon? Remember those tweets about a restraining order and stealing Kate's groceries?

What #Misinformation? Collin is gone. How is this misinformation when Kate said it herself?

She's nuts.

Over And Out said...

So, this fan thinks it's okay to destroy a child because there are 7 others?

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Apparently so. If one gets sent away or lost in the shuffle, there are always back-ups.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#108), talk about the pot calling the kettle stupid! I wonder what part of TFW's
own words (since she never sued Robert for libel, that's the only logical conclusion to draw) Mensa member Gladys would identify as "innuendo" or "misinformation?"

Over And Out said...

That radar article is so short. One paragraph. I wish it were more detailed. The horrors she put that child through and all her lies need to be put out to the public once and for all.

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Eh, sometimes the less said, the more effective, and I think Radar was right on target with that one.

Tucker's Mom said...

Gosselin Book ‏@GosselinBook 30m30 minutes ago
”I GRABBED HIM AND SPANKED HIM AS HARD AS I COULD AND THOUGHT I MAY SERIOUSLY INJURE HIM"- KATE GOSSELIN https://www.amazon.com/KATE-GOSSELIN-FOOLED-WORLD-UNEDITED-ebook/dp/B018V1AW2A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1472764499&sr=8-2&keywords=kate+gosselin+how+she+fooled+the+world …

Well Robert, your book is getting more exposure and hopefully, someone will listen and take it to heart.
The salient points are gaining traction and if nothing else, these revelations are more poignant than ever before.

Jane said...

There are multiple pages to this article. Click on the arrow in the photo.

http://radaronline.com/photos/kate-gosselin-son-collin-treatment-spanked-troubled-boy-private-diaries/

chefsummer #Leh said...

Tucker's Mom said... 107
And I'm a unicorn.
*****
I *knew* it, chef!
____
And know you know my secret. :-)

jamezvader1194 said...

@Layla Not to worry Layla,that was the only comment from the looks of it that defended Kate,the others are negative and have her number.

Jillygee said...

Comments 95-97 clarified my mistake regarding the length of the radar article.
I initially thought the first paragraph with the first pic was the whole article and Jane kindly pointed out the arrows on the pic.

Lol

GollyGee said...

Anonymous said... 89
I noticed she purchased Scott toilet paper. I thought Northern was her brand of choice, or what that just for grifting purposes.

bm

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Must be out. She knows she can't ask Georgia-Pacific for anymore because of the backlash GP got for giving her years of TP. She said that they, the 8 and her use 10 rolls of TP, per day!

GP was snookered the day she told them that and they decided to give to her. A simple google search would have told them that she was a millionaire and still is!

I hope Scott doesn't fall for it!

Zoe said...

In the ROL article there are 2 photos that show all 6 of the young kids. In both photos there 2 girls and 2 boys smiling and hugging each other in the center and an unsmiling girl and boy standing alone on the far right and left. So sad for both of them.

Formerly Duped said...

Scott bathroom tissue sucks IMO. It's too thin and cheap. Sorry, hope no Scott employees or Scott family member here. (Maybe they could use 10 rolls a day of this brand.)

localyocul said...

I just watched J and K "valentines day" episode. The tups are about 3 and C does not have any noticeable differences. His language skills are fine, he hugs and is social, and joins in with the kids. I think it's emotional. Unless he has a learning disability but that does not need institutionalization. What a shame.

FLmom said...

Has anyone brought up this convo from IG? This was on Milo's pic of Collin. His/her response is so odd!

gmoney19511950too shocked for words....... how a total stranger could do this ... so so sad

miloandjack2016LOL @gmoney19511950 Who is the ill informed stranger here?? You know NOTHING about me and my relationship w/this family! Take a seat in the back & I'll call for you when you actually KNOW something about this!

Sad but true said...

Fourth comment on today's doggie pic (the previous 3 seem to have been deleted---Kate, is that you?). A total of 33 comments with 10.5K views? Unlike Twitter, the deletion of comments and inflation of views/ likes /etc. is very obvious on IG.)

miloandjack2016There are some doggy faces that only #YoMommaCouldLove....but #Nanuq has an adorable look everyone loves! That #HeadTilt is so so cute! Do you do the #HeadTilt too when talking to her? @kateplusmy8

And do you talk baby talk too when you and yer darlin' Kate are communicatin' in other ways?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Unless he has a learning disability but that does not need institutionalization. What a shame.

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It could be that his issues are with socialization and behavior with his peers, not with his siblings.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

GP was snookered the day she told them that and they decided to give to her. A simple google search would have told them that she was a millionaire and still is!

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As long as the company is getting free publicity for it, I doubt that they care if she is a millionaire several times over, or just an ordinary mom whose kids use a lot of toilet tissue!

Formerly Duped said...

I always thought Collin did things better than his siblings as far as self-care, helping out, articulating and strength go. Yes, he did like to organize things, kept himself apart a bit and was a bit of a bully at times. He did not seem popular with the other tups or twins. But I just am still in shock about an institution 2 hours away. Surely someone could help him closer to home even if the situation escalated somehow. This is just horrible. I find myself thinking about it a lot.

Anon this time said...

FLmom said... 122
Has anyone brought up this convo from IG? This was on Milo's pic of Collin. His/her response is so odd!

gmoney19511950too shocked for words....... how a total stranger could do this ... so so sad

miloandjack2016LOL @gmoney19511950 Who is the ill informed stranger here?? You know NOTHING about me and my relationship w/this family! Take a seat in the back & I'll call for you when you actually KNOW something about this!

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That is not odd, it is insane to tweet something like that.

As someone posted before, full blown CWS.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Don't forget in addition to physical abuse in the cranial area, emotional abuse can also damage a child's brain. There are alarming studies about this, especially as it pertains to children who witness domestic violence. They never have to actually have a hair on their head harmed to have their brains damaged from witnessing it.

Violence can actually alter a child's brain.

GollyGee said...

Formerly Duped said... 126
I always thought Collin did things better than his siblings as far as self-care, helping out, articulating and strength go. Yes, he did like to organize things, kept himself apart a bit and was a bit of a bully at times. He did not seem popular with the other tups or twins. But I just am still in shock about an institution 2 hours away. Surely someone could help him closer to home even if the situation escalated somehow. This is just horrible. I find myself thinking about it a lot.

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So do I. It is just depressing. The pain and despair that was written all over Colin in those ROL pictures was hard to look at. Made me cry!!!

And Alexis too! All of them, except Alexis and Colin, look giddy. There are 7 players on one team and 2 on the other. So unfair.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#123), next Gladys is going to ask for a picture of TFW doing the #HeadTilt. She's like human Ipecac.

GollyGee said...

Human Ipecac.

Bwahahaha!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#128), that comment stopped me in my tracks. I shudder to think of the things those children witnessed. And, yes, surely, lots of people live through challenging, and often tragic, childhoods. Many posters here have opened their hearts to share such stories.

But this situation is uniquely painful to me in that the G children were forced to act like everything was fine. Not to just teachers and neighbors, but to the world: via a TV show that invaded their childhoods for more than a decade, and a famewhore mother who takes every opportunity to exploit their privacy for a buck.

Smiling for a school picture when your homelife is sad is one thing: smiling for People Magazine when your brother has just been removed from the house is another.

Jamesvader1194 said...

FLmom Ok she has gone from obsessive fan to down right dangerous.Honestly when i 1st join this blog and twitter,i for some reason never understood why the haters went after her.I thought she was just an over top fan who didn't harm anyone,but as the days went by i started to realize how insane she really is.The tweet that convinced me was when she tweeted something about stoning teenagers for getting in trouble at school.

Over And Out said...


And do you talk baby talk too when you and yer darlin' Kate are communicatin' in other ways?

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Milo puckers up and does the kissy kissy thing when they communicate.

Is it just me, or has she gotten much more snippy, snotty, passive aggressive and more insane? Something's gotta give. She is delusional and needs to be medicated. If I were Kate, I'd be afraid of her. I think I first realized that something was really off with her was when she was in that giddy frenzy on Kate's birthday and she was on her way to pick up her rescue dog. She scared me and I think Kate was worried that night.

chefsummer #Leh said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 130
Sad but true (#123), next Gladys is going to ask for a picture of TFW doing the #HeadTilt. She's like human Ipecac.
___

The sheep can lay their queen down on a clod floor with a bucket.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Cold floor lol.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Over and out I agree and i believe its because either she finally realized that Kate has alot more haters then supporters or she is upset that TLC has yet to show any signs of an air date.Either way she does need to be medicated.

GollyGee said...

Over and Out..134

If I were Kate, I'd be afraid of her. I think I first realized that something was really off with her was when she was in that giddy frenzy on Kate's birthday and she was on her way to pick up her rescue dog. She scared me and I think Kate was worried that night.

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I remember that night very well. It was scary. I thought he/she was actually pull up to the gate and say,
Yoo Hoo, Kate, I am here!

She had to be really scared!

Jeanne said...

Kate did not "spank" Colin as Radar says. She beat him. She beat him hard and did it frequently. For Milo and the others, Radar is not quoting Robert's book. They are quoting Kate's journal. The one she copyrighted right before her lawsuit. I know you will love her no matter what, Milo, but you look stupid trying to defend it as misinformation.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

If I were Kate, I'd be afraid of her. I think I first realized that something was really off with her was when she was in that giddy frenzy on Kate's birthday and she was on her way to pick up her rescue dog. She scared me and I think Kate was worried that night.

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In all seriousness, I wonder if Kate knows that Milo is crazy and just humors her because she is aware of the dangers of ignoring an obsessed fan. Milo needs help and it's obvious her own family doesn't care that she's in the last stages of CWS. With someone who is this much of a nutjob, anything can happen, and does happen, as we've seen with celebrity who have been stalked.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Over And Out (#134), yes, I believe the self proclaimed Miss Positivity is letting her dark side show more and more often as her obsession escalates. Instead of ignoring that comment about using C's picture, she lashed out. To me, snapping at a stranger defensively like that just makes her look like she really doesn't communicate with TFW privately. Unless you count the scores of DM's I assume she sends her, which most likely go unanswered.#BusyMama#NoTime2Chat#JonsAWimpyBoy

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jeanne (#139), yeah, I didn't like Radar using
the word "spank" either. It makes you think of
a parent swatting a child on the tush. According to her copyrighted journals, TFW BEAT her babies and toddlers, to the point where she feared she'd do serious damage. Children whom she described
as "disabled" in that letter trying to get free full-time help.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

I checked in with the Church Ladies to see what they've been up to since Rog, Todd and June were killed and hubs was blinded. I think old Barbie forgot about Junebug being dead and tweeted her:

@NEQUlENT @MaryKayee69 @JunebugRoush LORD sis you wanna say they're ain't a GOD???Like say they're ain't air..tell me another STORY hehehe

Darlene is now among the missing and they've seen three (count 'em) read-headed clowns in the woods. Patty is now re-tweeting porn pictures of Ron Jeremy, and Barbie tweeted Deidre Hall (Days Of Our Lives) for the name of a good psychiatrist:

@DeidreHall hey DOC hehehe you got a recamintation on a SICIATRIST for my SIS @PattyParsonsPat ??? GAL so NUTS we think she's a squirrel 143

During this period of grief for their deceased love ones, they still had fun on the roller coaster at Dollywood.

These women are as bonkers as Gladys! They should all get together!

Sheepless In Seattle said...

OT...

For those who like the true crime stories, a documentary on JonBenet will be shown on September 18, 19 and 25 on CBS.

Her brother, Burke, is also giving a three-part interview with Dr. Phil on Sept. 12, with the second and third parts airing Sept. 13 and 19.

ID will also show a three-part docu-series beginning on September 12, "JonBenet: An American Murder Mystery."

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Unless you count the scores of DM's I assume she sends her, which most likely go unanswered.#BusyMama#NoTime2Chat#JonsAWimpyBoy

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I wonder if Milo has Kate's cell phone number. After all, with the intimate relationship that Milo believes she has with Kate, I would think she calls Kate on a daily basis and not just once a day. Isn't that what BFFs do?

Susie Cincinnati said...

I wonder if Collin has any memory of those early spankings, whippings, beatings, or whatever they were.

Rainbirdie said...

miloandjack2016 OMG!! I do exact same thing w/MissK!! Except I pat the bed twice and then say "betchen" sp? German for bed. Front paws up & she waits for me to lift her lil rear end up! I guess we #DogLovers think alike
@kateplusmy8
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This just cracked me up. She says she does the exact same thing "EXCEPT"...which mean that in reality she does not do the exact same thing. But she got a positive response from Kate which no doubt keeps the illusion/delusion of friendship going in her mind.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Rainbirdie (#147), tee hee, I noticed that, too!
And Gladys put an "OMG" at the beginning, to honor the amazing coincidence! It's like saying, OMG, you love peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, too? That's exactly what I love! Except I make them with ham and cheese! #SandwichSisters#LunchLove

Sad but true said...

I wonder when we can expect the announcement of the 97th "Set the Record Straight" tour. You know it's coming.

Formerly Duped said...

Susie Cincinnati said... 146

I wonder if Collin has any memory of those early spankings, whippings, beatings, or whatever they were.
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Sadly I think the physical punishment went on for years to all the kids. The Spanker was seen in the car during the J&K days I think, and that hard wooden tube was in Kate's hand in E-town,, anyway. Plus the reports of babysitters being instructed to spank the children.I think Kare may have used severe corporal punishment, maybe right up to this day.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Formerly Duped (#150), remember the fans' contention that the wooden spoon in the car was for stirring lemonade? Yes, alleged germaphobe TFW keeps cutlery in her car, in case of any spontaneous summer beverage whims. Good grief.

Sad but true said...

Formerly Duped said... 150
... I think Kare may have used severe corporal punishment, maybe right up to this day.
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It's difficult to imagine Kate being able to resist the urge to smack Mady's nasty mouth from time to time.

GollyGee said...

Headline on Hollywood Gossip article:

Kate Gosselin: Destroyed By Fans For Abusing, Exploiting Collin!

She plays the victim to a T!

Did she actually think that people would have more sympathy FOR HER than her OWN SON who she "had to send away to get fixed" and had to make this decision all alone?

Oh where was Steve, your buddy, your lover, your bodyguard, your advisor, your road manager? He couldn't be bothered to help you so you wouldn't have to do this all ALONE?

What a full-blown narcissistic sociopath!

Layla said...

Sad but true (149)

There is no doubt in my mind that she has been trying to line up a "set the record straight" tour since before People came out last week. She has been off TV for about 8 months now, and she is desperate for a camera fix. I am also positive that the fact that she hasn't been on any shows is not her choice. Her addiction to the cameras is so strong that she would take anything that was tossed her way, just for a fix. When the show was canceled for almost 3 years, she couldn't go for more than 3 months without a press tour of some kind. 8 months must be killing her! And still no announcement or ads about K+8 airing dates.

NJGal51 said...

There may not be a set the record straight tour this time because people are calling her out for exploiting Colin's problems just to draw eyes to herself and for letting Mady trash talk Jon and actually saying she's proud of her. I will be SMDH if any of the large morning shows have her on. I think that the last time her show was on she only appeared on a couple of local radio shows, a couple call in shows and maybe some gossip show in CA. Gone are the days when she's asked to guest host The View.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

GollyGee (#153), thanks for mentioning that article. They even posted pictures of the magazine cover with TFW smacking poor little L's bottom for blowing a whistle.

Of course, even the best parent might sometimes lash out and feel sorry afterwards. A quick slap before thinking better of it. But that wasn't a reflex action -- TFW stopped to lift the child's dress up before she smacked her. To me, that means her intention was to hurt her. I sure thought that picture was the beginning of the
end, but Teflon TFW survived.

I love that the article mentions Robert's book, and hopefully someone will post a link to it on Amazon in the comment section.

Curious said...

I forgot the name of the woman that moved down South. She was married to Mr. Bill. Mady and Cara bought them gifts at Kmart when they filmed the St. Judes special. It wasn't Nanny Joan or Janet. The twins bought dog treats for her dogs. Who was she?????

Curious

Layla said...

FlimsyFlamsy,

Someone did mention the book in the comments section and also completed a quote from the book. The tabs mention Kate spanking Collin "so hard!" and sending him to his crib, but they all fail to mention the part where she says she "whipped him into it so hard!". I think that part is important, and I'm glad that anyone who looks at the comments will see the part that the tabs all seem to cut out.

New People magazine is out today!

I wonder if Kate is starting to panic about her "career" in the public eye. Collin is gone, and even when he returns he isn't going to magically turn into a happy-go-lucky boy. He will always be different. Cara wants to go far away for college, and that will be in 3 years. It's been a long time between episodes of K+8, with no air dates in sight. Her glory days are numbered, and I think she knows it.

Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 156
...
I love that the article mentions Robert's book, and hopefully someone will post a link to it on Amazon in the comment section.
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It's tragic that no one paid more attention to the book when it first came out. Of course, at that point Kate hadn't copyrighted her diary, which proved it was her own words. Had it made a bigger splash, Collin might have gotten help a lot sooner.

Sad but true said...

My God, what will it take to make this one stop?

miloandjack2016 For all the Moms out there who live every single day w/challenges unique and troubling...who tirelessly and selflessly keep their loving maternal instincts lit and burning bright! #Respect. #Empathy. #Support. ❤

The accompanying placard reads:

On the toughest of days,
I look at my kids and
remind myself that they
need me
and actually,
I need them.
*parentingspecialneedskids

Now if she had a special needs kid, this might be acceptable. But based on her lack of "sharing" on this subject with her dear dear friend Kate, I don't think so. You know if she could, she would.

Rainbirdie said...

Jeanne said... 139
Kate did not "spank" Colin as Radar says. She beat him. She beat him hard and did it frequently. For Milo and the others, Radar is not quoting Robert's book. They are quoting Kate's journal. The one she copyrighted right before her lawsuit...
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I just wanted to bring this comment current. Very important point - very well stated.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sad but true said... 149
I wonder when we can expect the announcement of the 97th "Set the Record Straight" tour. You know it's coming.
September 2, 2016 at 6:12 AM
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I just hope Savannah Guthrie passes on the Kate interview on the Today show. Her unborn child might try to birth itself and run away!

Formerly Duped said...

Curious said... 157
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Miss Beverly. She babysat the kids and also folded many baskets of laundry for the Gosselins every week. She was a nice lady and I'm sure is horrified at what has happened to the kids. (She gave Jon underwear for the fake Xmas, since she noticed he didn't have much in her laundry-folding duties) Aside: Carla put away said laundry and Janet ironed and did the uniforms for Kate. My.

Tucker's Mom said...

The accompanying placard reads:

On the toughest of days,
I look at my kids and
remind myself that they
need me
and actually,
I need them.
*parentingspecialneedskids
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Thank you, Milo, for helping to ensure that Colin will forever have the moniker, "special needs". Now anyone, anywhere, forever will Google him and have this come up (along with his expulsion).

Tucker's Mom said...

It's tragic that no one paid more attention to the book when it first came out. Of course, at that point Kate hadn't copyrighted her diary, which proved it was her own words. Had it made a bigger splash, Collin might have gotten help a lot sooner.
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It's shocking that Kate's journal didn't get much traction before. Think about other famous moms and what if it became known that they beat their toddlers (for ridiculous infractions) and hit them repeatedly with a hard spoon, to the point of leaving bruises.
What celeb mom could survive those revelations?

Tucker's Mom said...

Of course, even the best parent might sometimes lash out and feel sorry afterwards. A quick slap before thinking better of it. But that wasn't a reflex action -- TFW stopped to lift the child's dress up before she smacked her. To me, that means her intention was to hurt her. I sure thought that picture was the beginning of the
end, but Teflon TFW survived.
******
Agree, and I also think it speaks to how many parents still use corporal punishment, so they thought nothing of it.
It's a sad statement about our society.

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 155
^^^^^^
+1

I haven't read the People article, which is supposed to be an update on Kate and the kids. I know that Mady > Cara trashed Jon, and Colin has been sent to an inpatient treatment program, but is there ANY mention of how the other kids are growing, progressing and developing?
Have the boys been doing anything at all besides playing with Legos? Are the girls doing ballet, gymnastics, music etc?
Are the kids doing anything but going to school and filming?

Flight of the Kiwi said...

Of course the talk shows will have her. That's her new persona - Mother of a Special Needs child. A child who she, (sob, sob, dab, dab), despite her BEST efforts (soooo exhausting)HAD to send away. She is sure all Mom's, especially those with children with special needs, can relate. AND she has 7, count 'em 7 others to care for, so she can offer tips! How AMAZING she is!

Susan1956 said...

Flight of the Kiwi said... 168

Of course the talk shows will have her. That's her new persona - Mother of a Special Needs child. A child who she, (sob, sob, dab, dab), despite her BEST efforts (soooo exhausting)HAD to send away. She is sure all Mom's, especially those with children with special needs, can relate. AND she has 7, count 'em 7 others to care for, so she can offer tips! How AMAZING she is!
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IF the big talk shows like The Today Show, GMA, The View, The Talk, Ellen, etc. wanted to have her on to discuss her new persona of a Special Needs Mom, wasn't the time to do so last week or early this week when all those unbought People magazines were sitting on the shelves and not this week when she is being ripped apart in the online press and all those People magazines are headed to the landfill?

Does she even have a publicist anymore? Have the Duggars been on The Today Show since Josh's 'issues' came to light? I think TLC, by continuing to air the Duggars, is having to contend with not only a decrease in viewers, but less influence/cooperation with other networks. With that issue and the loss of the other shows, they may decide that hanging onto Kate + 8, especially since her copyrighted journals will be out there forever, is not worth it. Even with filmed episodes in the can.

Sad but true said...

Susan1956 said... 169

And on top of what you said, I imagine there's a lot of editing/new couch interviews needed for the new episodes, especially if Collin was missing for some/all of them. With the story out there now that he is away (but with no one saying when he left or for how long), his absence is going to raise questions that will have to be addressed in some way if TLC is going to put this back on the air. The "real" gets ever further from TLC's "reality" programming.

GollyGee said...

Maybe a few have contacted her and asked her to appear. They fax her a list of questions they want to ask her and she refused to approve of them.

Anonymous said...

When she reads the recent scathing comments from the public and with no definite show scheduled as yet, she has to be worried. I remember a couple of years ago she tweeted she would like to be a spokesperson for bullying (I think she meant "anti"bullying). I wonder if she thinks she can now reinvent herself as a spokesperson for parents who have special needs children. I can only think one one person - Milo - who would endorse that though.

bm

Turtle (AKA Amy2) said...

I wonder why after all these years Collin gets help now. Could something have happened that forced TFW to make such a drastic move. Was the catalyst legal ruling, behavior, educator recommendation, or fodder for People magazine? Just makes me wonder.

Deliverence said...

Oh, brother...

Hi Kate I'm sure you get loads of requests to follow. But I'm after some advice on my son who sounds similar to Collin. Xxx

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

*parentingspecialneedskids

&&&

I think she means "shipping off" special needs kids.

Susan1956 said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 175

I think she means "shipping off" special needs kids.
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Of course. Isn't that what places like Camp Barnabas are for?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So many Americans either with regret or not, physically hurt their children to make a point. And yet we expect those same children to grow up and not hurt others. And we wonder why we have such an overwhelming problem with domestic violence, rape, and other forms of violence in this country. It's not like this in Europe and other places.

And we think the "cause" of all this violence is not enough gun control? We need to think a little harder about that one and think seriously about how children are being raised.

Sad but true said...

Turtle (AKA Amy2) said... 173
I wonder why after all these years Collin gets help now. Could something have happened that forced TFW to make such a drastic move. Was the catalyst legal ruling, behavior, educator recommendation, or fodder for People magazine? Just makes me wonder.

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Or how about refusal to cooperate joyfully with filming? I can definitely see that one as a possibility.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

FOTK (#168), always nice to see you commenting!

You have painted a pretty realistic picture of TFW's next press tour! I always say it's "poke, poke, dab, dab." The poke is what provides the tears. How else could TFW pretend to be sad when she's in full hair and makeup, and her grubby kids are miles away, and the camera is on her and her alone? Top it off with lunch at Nobu afterwards, and life doesn't get any better for her. Look at how she's lit up like a Christmas tree on People. C could've be on Mars for all she cared when
they offered her that cover shoot.

Oh, and don't forget the magic words that must
be bravely uttered in every interview:
"I'm doing this all ALONE."

Flight of the Kiwi said...

Turtle (AKA Amy2) said... 173

I wonder why after all these years Collin gets help now. Could something have happened that forced TFW to make such a drastic move. Was the catalyst legal ruling, behavior, educator recommendation, or fodder for People magazine? Just makes me wonder
==================================================
Collin may very well have been getting help for a very long time. There may have been one incident that was the catalyst that resulted in him going to a residential program, or the situation may have built to this point.

This is the problem I have with this vague announcement in People - fans and non-fans alike will hypothesize what is "wrong" with the child leading to speculation and armchair diagnosing. Personally, I feel the article was a preemptive strike to explain the child's absence if and/or when shows air.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Oh, and don't forget the magic words that must
be bravely uttered in every interview:
"I'm doing this all ALONE."


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She alternates with "Everything I do is for my kids."

I wonder if anyone has gotten her a sweat shirt with those words on it? Gladys, get moving...great Christmas gift for your love interest.

Sandi said...

In a recent interview, Jon said he had not seen one child in a year. Could Collin have been "away" this whole time? The last few episodes had Collin looking like he was medicated. Could Kate be so cold as to bring Collin home for a couple of shots showing him as part of the family? Once fans began commenting on how "spaced out" Collin appeared, would that be just cause in Kates mind to put that boy out as a special Needs child?

Sad but true said...

Sandi said... 182
In a recent interview, Jon said he had not seen one child in a year. Could Collin have been "away" this whole time? The last few episodes had Collin looking like he was medicated. Could Kate be so cold as to bring Collin home for a couple of shots showing him as part of the family? . . .
________

Do you doubt it? Because I don't. If you look back at all of the things she has faked for the camera, I don't believe she would even hesitate on this.

Blowing In The Wind said...


Hi Kate I'm sure you get loads of requests to follow. But I'm after some advice on my son who sounds similar to Collin. Xxx

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What exactly does Collin *sound* like?

You could alienate him from his father, then ship him off to wherever and go about your business like he's no longer a member of the family. That works. Remember the remark she made about Camp Barnabas and special needs kids? It gives the parents a break.

Sad but true said...

I think Milo meant this to be supportive, but it's just soooo true! What a doIt.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
Kate needs this as a #StandardQuote here! The #Trolls wait anxiously for her!! @Kateplusmy8

Placard:

Dear Haters,
I have so much more
for you to be mad at.
Just be patient.

jamezvader1194 said...

So this is the reason Kate's Timeline is dead,i must say us haters must be a powerful group to silence all her fans MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 17m17 minutes ago

@UseCmmonSense @Kateplusmy8 The reason Kate's timeline is dead is because of the harassment.

Lynne In RI said...

Sheepless, on the Church Ladies (143): "... clowns in the woods. Patty is now re-tweeting porn pictures of Ron Jeremy, and Barbie tweeted Deidre Hall (Days Of Our Lives) for the name of a good psychiatrist..."

"Barbie Jean Sayre ‏@barbiejeansayre 5h5 hours ago
Welp seen another CLOWN this one had big fuzzy buttons down he's gown am pointed SHOES just giggle real loud from the backyard"

)))))))))))))

What do they smoke in West Virginia? Some really potent homegrown stuff, or is Stephen King's IT making his rounds on the East Coast this week?

GollyGee said...

Quotes from the People article.

I never want to hear, and will never hear, "Mom, you kept us from Dad." I want my kids to be as whole as possible.

Is she saying that she never wants to hear from the children, you kept dad from us that wanted to see Jon? and she will truly never hear that you kept dad from us that didn't want to see Jon?

I think about the good. I think about the bad, the everything. But I live with no regrets.

When I read this, it reminds me of the song, The Facts of Life.

The money's good,
The beatings bad,
You take them both
And there you have
Kate's Filming Strife!
Kate's Filming Strife!

When the world never seems
to be livin up to your dreams
And suddenly you're finding out
the TLC camera red light
Is on you, you.

High Sodium Content said...

My thoughts on "why now" to get C help. I would assume he has been getting some kind of "therapy" since he was expelled from LCDS. Maybe his behavior has gotten worse at home. Maybe he's been more combative at home, standing up to Kate. He's getting to the point where he is/will be stronger than her. Him being isolated and home schooled last year cannot be a good thing. A child needs friends. These kids have never really been exposed to true friends, socially or in sporting type/team activities. Kate is a complete failure as a mother.

SarahK said...

Who is the animalabuse person/non-fan on Kate's twitter? I hope nobody on this blog. My gosh, what a mouth! But I guess with Twitter being the social media that it is, anything goes and this is to be expected. But still...

Sad but true said...

High Sodium Content said... 189

. . . These kids have never really been exposed to true friends, socially or in sporting type/team activities. Kate is a complete failure as a mother.

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I thought it was interesting that Kate posted on IG a couple of the kids (girls only) in the car early last week:

kateplusmy8 Another day, another car trip... #SchoolSportsPractice #LoadUpThePups #CarPros

Maybe the point was the dogs, but outside of Cara playing lacrosse (which seems to have lasted maybe two years?), we've never heard any mention of any of the kids involved in school sports. And then all of a sudden, sports practice? I think she's consciously trying to counter the allegations that she isolates her kids, doesn't let them do things that normal kids do, but it's too little, too late. Any kids who are seriously involved in school sports started five or more years ago. For all we know, they were going to Target.

Jumping In said...

I may be completely wrong, but my sense is Collin was sent away because he would not comply. Perhaps he refused to film, or threatened to expose his mother, or both. This could easily be construed as combative behaviour, tantrums or disruptive. My feeling is that he was/is the spoiler and his mother needed him gone to keep the franchise going. I put nothing past her as she is cruel, detached and uncaring. Collin may be the only child that could not be bought, refused to give in and has uncompromising integrity. But, he is still a child with no voice.

While I am speculating, I have also wondered if she purposely kept him from Jon because he was/is the child who was willing to expose her to his father. He may have been an unwilling prisoner at home and now one away. If she has him under someone else's care and he spouts off she can now distance herself and say it's his "special needs talk" and should be discounted.

I put nothing past her, nothing.

Minka's Tail said...

What's interesting is that she's not a stage mother or tiger momin the traditional sense. You think she would have decided that Mady is the next Annie, CAra is headed for the Olympics in skiing and Leah for gymnastics, Hannah is the next great horse jumper, etc. She's an unusual narcissist in that she wants them to not take lessons, etc. so they can film and the attention can be on her. Very unusual.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

@UseCmmonSense @Kateplusmy8 The reason Kate's timeline is dead is because of the harassment.

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She's been harassed for years, I don't think it suddenly ground her timeline to a halt.

Number one, she moved to instagram and isn't as engaged with twitter anymore. Instagram's a more civil platform anyway, and lots of celebs land there. Number two, TLC for whatever reason hasn't aired her episodes in ages, and people are losing interest. Number three even if they were airing episodes her show is 10 years old and the kids are older now and not as cute. It's old news, boring, not fresh. It can't last forever even if she were a nice person.

Oh and let's not forget you only have so many cat lives with people until they've had it. She may have pushed her luck this time with the latest little stunt about Collin.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I may be completely wrong, but my sense is Collin was sent away because he would not comply. Perhaps he refused to film, or threatened to expose his mother, or both.


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I'm pretty convinced it was something like that. She is not about to break up the "hook" of her show, the chaos of the eight, except under dire circumstances. Actually, even more likely, his service providers either insisted or strongly recommended she pull him from the show. There's just no way service providers would think the extensive filming they have done is appropriate for keeping a child like him stable. No way. If it came down to you pull him for filming or we will do something about it (i.e. involve CPS) she'd send him away. In a heartbeat.

I take no joy in saying sadly we called this ages ago. If anyone fell out of line, either intentionally or not, they'd be gone.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#191), that post seems awfully calculated to me. She's trying to masquerade as a typical mom of teens and preteens, who are mostly taxi drivers for their kids' events and sports and social lives. But we know better, don't we?

Let's face it -- if TFW was regularly putting herself out to take her kids hither, thither and yon, she'd be complaining about it, and getting her pats on the back from the fans. And I'm willing to bet none of her boys has had a sports jersey on his back, unless it was for a photo op.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I never want to hear, and will never hear, "Mom, you kept us from Dad." I want my kids to be as whole as possible.

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And she probably is going to hear it. Being good at co-parenting involves a lot more than simply not saying point blank, "I don't want you to go to your dad's."

Few parental alienators are ever going to spell it out that clearly.

She's cute though in her constant "who me?" crap.

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 197
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She's cute though in her constant "who me?" crap.
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As with so many other things over the years ("Don't believe anything unless you hear it from me"), she seems to think that as long as she says it over and over, eventually it will be taken as truth. And I am sure she does say stuff like that over and over to her kids, who probably no longer even register it, it just becomes a running subtext to their lives. It's amazing what a number she's been able to do on the diehard fans, but it's the kids who will bear the brunt of her dishonesty when their lives become "real."

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#197), we've been privy to a decade of TFW's manipulation onscreen, and it's not all verbal. Some of it is with withering looks, eyerolls, and other body language. I remember when Jon had started working out, and during their couch interview he said he stopped because he'd had a bad cold. TFW guffawed in the most nasty, derisive way. Did she say, "Wow, you are a lazy loser!" No. But she might as well have, because that laugh conveyed her scorn beautifully. It was a golden opportunity to mock her husband not just in front of the crew, but in front of the world.
She was in her glory.

Do any of us believe that when the kids come home from a happy weekend at their dad's house that they feel comfortable to sit down with TFW and share what they did? Or do they come home to her pouting, and feel the need to "parent" her? Ask how her weekend was? Rush to do whatever chores they missed when they were away? Talk about a "toxic" parent.

Wowser said...

Here are some excerpts from her unedited journal

Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!! I

Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!


FlimsyFlamsy said...

Wowser (#200), what a revealing journal entry. The idea that she was ascribing value to C as a helper when he was just a tiny boy gives me the creeps. You can see how that might have given
him a skewed sense of responsibility. And
perhaps his behavioral issues were triggered
from the damaging effects of the stress of those expectations.

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