It's hard not to chuckle about this thug persona TFW has created for Jon. I'm remembering him in his bumblebee sweater at the Shady Maple buffet -- a dorky young IT guy with 8 kids, who seemed to be the calm voice of reason around her drama. Does she really expect America to believe that sweet dad we watched washing his little daughters' hair has turned into a reckless hoodlum?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 200 Jamezvader1194 (#197), and if TFW was really, truly, sincerely so concerned about her children's safety and welfare, why wouldn't she just pull the plug on the show and get those kids out of the spotlight? #HorribleMomLife _____
Or for that matter, why wouldn't she simply honor the custody arrangements that have been ordered by the court (including Jon's emergency custody order that allowed him to have Hannah on that Monday) and not presume to change things up every time the regular visits with dad interfere with filming? Or her whims?
Besides saying publicly that he doesn't think it's good for his kids, Jon hasn't interfered with her filming (up until this incident with Hannah, we surmise). But in Kate's mind, he might, and that's a good enough reason to attempt to bury him. She was just throwing shit out there to see if she could make something stick, she has no proof of (and probably no real belief in) any of the things she accused him of. She's trying to goad him to the point where he throws up his hands, says I can't take it anymore, and walks out of his children's lives. Unfortunately for her, he was always the far more patient one in that family.
She's a spoiled little brat who cannot deal with not getting her own way ALL of the time. I believe she does want him stripped of all of his parental rights, whether or not it's good for the kids. And with last year's flurry of police reports, she showed her hand, so I hope he's preparing accordingly. How I would love to see him defeat her in court.
I also think Kate's "whoopsie" tweet that she made public, “I’m in 24 hour protection mode here. Can you find out where Jon DJ’s tonight and tomorrow pm literally ASAP?' shows how wound up she was. It also appears she wanted to spy on him and put a PI on his tail. Unreal. This has to be one of the worst examples of failure to co-parent that I've ever heard of.
After making these misguided outrageous accusations I don't understand how she or TLC could possibly think anyone would admire her lack of mothering instinct. Surely by now TLC must realize by continuing with the show the network is leaving itself open to litigation by the childen who have been harmed when the parents signed them up for this circus.
Anonymous said... 6 After making these misguided outrageous accusations I don't understand how she or TLC could possibly think anyone would admire her lack of mothering instinct. Surely by now TLC must realize by continuing with the show the network is leaving itself open to litigation by the childen who have been harmed when the parents signed them up for this circus.
bm ****** That's what I don't understand. Kate's not longer the tabloid queen she once was. The show's high water mark was ages ago, and has been steady, although drawing in far, far less viewers. Pretty much everything they do is a repeat. See kids do x,y and z. Year after year. I really don't get why the filming continues. There's so much sad, bad and really ugly stuff that's developed and anytime Kate tries to sit on her throne and spin things, who's going to believe it? Besides her handful of fans in the U.S. and overseas watchers who have no clue about this shit show.
Can you find out where Jon DJ’s tonight and tomorrow pm literally ASAP?' shows how wound up she was. It also appears she wanted to spy on him and put a PI on his tail.
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But wouldn't any PI worth his pay know exactly how and where to find Jon? Why would Kate have to put out an APB on him?
I'm wondering if the PI was long gone by then. Even PIs have some common sense and ethics and any good one would pick up the fact that she's totally unhinged and that it's to the point where it would be wrong to keep taking her money and uncovering absolutely nothing. They may very well have terminated the job by that time, letting her know they uncovered nothing.
I do not give Steve the benefit of the doubt. He has taken complete advantage of this situation since the day he met Kate. He obviously realized how much she needed his "help" and has taken all he can take. A bodyguard as back-up estate manager, as someone on financial accounts, as someone who is so much not an employee that he argues with Kate. It's wrong. He contributed to the break-up of her marriage, he knows the details of abuse, he knows her problems. He has no morals. I don't care if he is holding her together. Maybe if she imploded she could get help instead of being on tv. @@@@@@@
I agree. Steve is a part of all of this mess. They argue because they are very, very close personally.
HER WILL In a 2009 version of the Gosselin Family Education Trust obtained exclusively by In Touch, Kate named her bodyguard Steve Neild as a successor co-trustee if Jon is unable to serve, and arranged for his kids [STEVE's kids??? However does that work?] to benefit if there's money left over. "This shows an extreme trust in their relationship," explains estate attorney Ross L. Schiller, who doesn't advise the Gosselins.
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This proves Steve is considered more than an employee. The guy has plenty at stake with this family. Dirtbag.
Pretty much everything they do is a repeat. See kids do x,y and z. Year after year. I really don't get why the filming continues. There's so much sad, bad and really ugly stuff that's developed and anytime Kate tries to sit on her throne and spin things, who's going to believe it? _____
You would think the "crew family," some of whom have watched this all unfold over the entire saga, would stand up at some point and just say, this is wrong. I get that their jobs are on the line, but what a conflict. Although I really do doubt that anyone at TLC or Figure 8 had a clear idea of what these police reports have revealed. I hope they pay close attention to the details, this is the kind of fabricated nonsense that Katie could well throw at them some day. Who would volunteer to be on the receiving end of that?
"This shows an extreme trust in their relationship," explains estate attorney Ross L. Schiller, who doesn't advise the Gosselins.
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I get that this is a talking head who is just making a statement and doesn't really have the kind of knowledge that those of us following it do, but, no, just no.
What this shows, is she is a delusional nut job. Who puts their bodyguard and HIS kids in the will instead of leaving it all to their husband, children, other relatives, or charity??
IF Steve even knew about this, he should have had a come to Jesus moment with her and told her to leave her money to her CHILDREN and leave him the armoire or something. Or what about leaving whatever is extra to Jodi's children, your nieces and nephews? So whatever happened with Jodi, her children had nothing to do with it. Kate's so darn childish. It's like a 5th grader wrote a pretend will for fun and left half their money to their teacher and the other half to their crush of the month plus some to the family dog. Cute at that age, stupid once you're a grown-up.
Man, I sometimes really wish she were in front of the judges I practice in front of. They'd clean her clock with the shit she pulls. Custody would go to Jon, end of story. She'd probably have monitored visits and maybe even a restraining order restricting her from stalking Jon.
Is L.A. just really progressive on parental alienation, or is PA really, really behind? Or is this just an anomaly.
I really think part of the problem is she is allowed to get away with this behavior, and "rewarded" with custody.
And this was 2009! He'd barely been with them a year at that point. I think Jon's suspicions about this guy were dead on. October 26, 2016 at 6:19 PM ****** In Robert's book, he talked about how many photos Kate had of Steve, from their family (filmed) vacations. I think she was taken with him early on. In 2008, they filmed in the OBX of NC. Steve was never seen on camera, but Katie's cell phone was FULL of pics of Steve and Steve and the kids. None of Jon. This was 2008. Also, when Jon and Cara wen to Utah to film, Kate sent Steve along. He was sort of her intermediary, keeping tabs on everything and reporting back to Kate about what and how Cara was doing. (were cell phones not around at the time such that Kate could actually speak with her daughter across the country?). Kate never communicated with Jon-or if she did, it was not even close to her reaching out to Steve daily. I guess Steve never needed an emergency to get her attention when they were apart. No news is not good news when it comes to Steve. Jon, yes. The kids, yes. Robert also shared his thoughts about Steve and evidently, he thinks the guy's pernicious, too. He basically calls him a complicit enabler who has stayed silent throughout Kate's abuse for many years. Also, in 2009, Kate began removing large chunks of money from the joint account. Kate set up a trust fund and made Steve the Trustee. Steve got the promotion when Beth and Bob got kicked to the curb. Isn't that fortuitous for him? Seems that he was the only man left standing after Kate carpet bombed what was her old life. Again, quite the catbird seat he inherited. Or, did he engineer it, having won Kate's trust, ear and favor above all others?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 15 "This shows an extreme trust in their relationship," explains estate attorney Ross L. Schiller, who doesn't advise the Gosselins.
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I get that this is a talking head who is just making a statement and doesn't really have the kind of knowledge that those of us following it do, but, no, just no. ******* Try extreme seduction.
Anonymous, in no way did I suggest police reports are "transcripts" of what was said, so I haven't the first clue what you are talking about.
However, police are not going to be more specific than their witness is being, nor will they be more vague than their subject is being. They'll report things as said, as vague or as specific as the subject will be.
They reported Kate's statements vaguely and I believe that was because Kate herself was being vague. The best police officers would pry further and ask her exactly what she meant by things she said. Either that didn't happen or if it did, it didn't make the police report. Neither is good. It was not the best police report I've ever seen, especially with the obvious mistake in custody. At the same time, maybe they didn't give a crap at a certain point, knowing she is a nut and that this is all nonsense.
It seems strange to me that all of this has come out just before her show is (supposedly) scheduled to return. Someone is doing great work to drum up interest. smh
I think the People cover was designed to do that--especially the revelations about Collin---but that was when she thought she'd be back in October. I don't think what's coming out now is from her PR, it makes her look like an out-of-control, vengeful maniac. I doubt Jon has anything to do with it either. I think it really may have just been a line tossed in the water with an FOIA request attached, and InTouch caught something they thought was worth publishing. That they've strung out a 2-page story in their magazine to 4 or 5 online stories already is ridiculous, but I'm wonderinf if they've got more to come. They point out they have a copy of the 2009 trust---will they be publishing more excerpts from that? What else might they have? Transcripts of court appearances?
Tucker's, I had forgotten what Hoffman had to say about Steve. Yeah he's clearly some kind of 21st-century Svengali for Katie. When she described what she was looking for in her next husband, and it just happened to be a pretty exact description of him, it was clear what her feelings were. His sediments remain a mystery to me, but there's no question he's at least motivated by money.
I really don't think there's any motivation behind the stories other than someone got some really juicy information when they got it. No one seems to know the air date even Kate (lol, doofus) it's become an I'll believe it when I see it thing so I really don't think anyone is trying to tie this to any air dates.
So, TLC is going to be showing Little People, Big World ( very popular) at 8, Outdaughterd (less popular) at 9, and K+8 (least popular) at 10. They are trying to turn Tuesday's into big viewing nights, but that might backfire for K+8. LPBW is a strong lead- in for the following show, and benefits the show following it. It will most likely be a big boost for the ratings for Outdaughtered. But then viewers would also have to sit through Outdaughtered to get to K+8, and since Outdaughtered is less popular, it won't give K+8 as big a boost as LPBW would have. How many people want to sit through that many shows on a weeknight? I can't wait to see how the ratings turn out. I went back and looked, and it's interesting to see that the highest rated show of last season got about the same number of viewers as the lowest rated episode of the season before it. And there was that creative new way of calculating ratings that gave the show a temporary boost in numbers. I think this season is going to be verryyyy interesting to track. Maybe I'll make a graph.
I think it's possible that after the story about Collin came out, InTouch, which originally reported the Hannah story last, decided to submit a FOIA requests for those police reports. They may have thought that those reports could possibly provide more info on what was going on with Collin.
You took her to task for using specific words...words you don't even know the used since the police report is not quoting her directly. If you want to rant about language you created in your own head, be my guest.
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I can't believe you're suggesting the police reporting of what she said was somehow not accurate. Can you please cut our wonderful police force a break? They have been through a whole lot of garbage in the past couple years. They don't need random anonymous posters accusing them of not reporting what Kate said accurately. It's really inappropriate, and frankly, disrespectful, not to mention without any basis. You have no reason, none, to think they did not report what she told to them exactly the way she said it.
If any police or friends and family of police are here, please disregard these implications. Ridiculous. You do a wonderful job.
TLC's twitter account also mentioned the premiere dates for both LPBW and Outdaughtered.
TLC Network @TLC · Oct 19 The babies are on the move! Watch the new season of #OutDaughtered on November 15 at 9/8c 👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼 👧🏻 http://TLC.com/OutDaughtered
TLC Network @TLC · Oct 22 RT if you can't wait for the return of #LPBW on Tuesday, November 22 at 8/7c! http://bit.ly/2eue2Gr
But still nothing about Kate plus 8 returning. You'd think if the show was coming back Nov. 22 they would have mentioned it by now. Either it's not airing in November, or they just don't want to be bother promoting it.
But still nothing about Kate plus 8 returning. You'd think if the show was coming back Nov. 22 they would have mentioned it by now. Either it's not airing in November, or they just don't want to be bother promoting it.
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It makes no sense. I'm the one who wrote TLC and received the reply about the Nov. 22 date so obviously they see it on their schedule, but I wonder what their reasoning is for not announcing it's return like they're doing with their other shows. The only thing I can think of is that they're only using her show as filler (as we've thought was the case for a long time) and they don't want to publicize it until they're sure they don't have anything better to put in the slot. If that's the case though, why would they be allowing their Viewer Relations dept. to see it on the schedule and tell viewers about it. If I were a fan I'd be upset about the situation, but since I prefer that it never returns, I simply don't care. I do hope, however that they advertise the heck out of the other shows and leave TFW's unmentioned. (Is it mean to say that? LOL Oh heck, it's TFW, IDC)
It makes no sense. I'm the one who wrote TLC and received the reply about the Nov. 22 date so obviously they see it on their schedule. . . . ______
Did they say they were airing new episodes? Did they use the words premiere or debut? Maybe they're just planning to air reruns of old episodes at 1 a.m.
I read somewhere that one of the big storylines on LPBW this time around is Amy dating. Will she be any more tolerable at that than Kate? All of these shows are so played, they really need to go.
Did they say they were airing new episodes? Did they use the words premiere or debut? Maybe they're just planning to air reruns of old episodes at 1 a.m.
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They weren't specific at all in their reply: "Dear Viewer, Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your interest in our programming. Kate Plus 8 is scheduled to air on November 22, 2016." I agree, they could be airing old reruns at 1am on the 22nd.
It makes no sense. I'm the one who wrote TLC and received the reply about the Nov. 22 date so obviously they see it on their schedule. . . . ______
Did they say they were airing new episodes? Did they use the words premiere or debut? Maybe they're just planning to air reruns of old episodes at 1 a.m.
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Sad, but true, your posting name is SO ironic on this post.
Poor Gladys will not be able to watch the possible 1 a.m. long awaited, with bated breath, showing of a Kate Plus 8 Tragic Circus S*** Show!
Once she eats that ice cream and lights out man turns off the lights at 11 p.m., nature will take it course. She will be asleep.
Question: Could not Jon file suit against Kate in small claims court to recoup the cost of his attorney to fight her false police reports? And isn't it against the law to file false police reports in PA?
They weren't specific at all in their reply: "Dear Viewer, Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your interest in our programming. Kate Plus 8 is scheduled to air on November 22, 2016." I agree, they could be airing old reruns at 1am on the 22nd.
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This almost sounds like an automated response, or just the intern copying and pasting. They're not sitting there in the programming meetings with the real decision makers to know what's really going on. They probably just googled the internal program schedule and there it was. Old or new they didn't care to look. They may have no idea the air date has bounced around so much.
Admin, (16). This week's Monday and Tuesday episodes of Dr. Phil featured a mom who is doing everything crazy thing she can to upend the life of the father of her child. (She is rather a nutcase!)
The dad has won custody. The court documents that Dr. Phil referenced speak harshly of the mom. Dr. Phil actually lost his patience with the woman. The live audience laughed at some of the mother's accusations. The mom basically refused all help.
Their case is heard in New York and North Carolina.
When I searched Kate Plus 8 under 'Schedule' on tlc.com, it says "This show is not currently on the schedule" But Outdaughered is. Next showing for them is early Nov.
According to the TLC Website, Kate + 8 is currently not on the schedule. Maybe all this filming Kate is doing is on her own w/o TLC - perhaps straight to You-Tube?
I do not watch TLC, so are they showing any of her reruns currently? If not, then Nov. 22 could be a rerun airing. They are not promoting a new season for her on their web page.
Admin (#44), hey, that's a good episode idea: "Dumpings and Disappointments" -- Chaotic fun ensues when Kate Gosselin and her 7 or 8 children try to find their latest episode on TV, only to find they'll need passports to go watch it.
When I do a TLC search it gives premiere dates w NEW SEASON for LPBW and Outdaughtered. A search for K plus 8 ...nothing. Just one old episode on demand available to view.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 45 Admin (#44), hey, that's a good episode idea: "Dumpings and Disappointments" -- Chaotic fun ensues when Kate Gosselin and her 7 or 8 children try to find their latest episode on TV, only to find they'll need passports to go watch it.
Question: Could not Jon file suit against Kate in small claims court to recoup the cost of his attorney to fight her false police reports? And isn't it against the law to file false police reports in PA?
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From what I have read, she suspected he was selling drugs and suspected an inappropriate relationship. I'm not sure that's actually claiming he did those things, only that she thought it was possible. That's really not a false police report, is it?
From what I have read, she suspected he was selling drugs and suspected an inappropriate relationship
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And what's what I was saying, she know exactly what she's doing. She knows how to say just enough to be a real "nasty woman" without ever actually getting in trouble for it.
She's a coward.
If she were a grown up, she would own her accusations, and be clear about them, and state them without shame. Otherwise, STFU.
If Kate was a grown up, there wouldn't be any police reports at all. She would have found a way from the divorce to deal with the fact that she married Jon and had children. She has responsibility for that. She would figure out how to do custody and let the kids see their dad. Millions of people make it work. Instead she stamps her feet like a two year old saying "I want it my way!"
I think the police did their best to report what Kate was going on about. Can you imagine her screeching, yelling, flapping her hands, going from accusation to accusation, possibly insulting the cops for not doing exactly what she wants?
Jeanne said... 50 If Kate was a grown up, there wouldn't be any police reports at all. She would have found a way from the divorce to deal with the fact that she married Jon and had children. She has responsibility for that. ****** Bingo. Parents have this responsibility when their marriage doesn't work out. It's a travesty for the kids that Kate refuses to mend fences with Jon and co-parent like a responsible adult.
Another one, this one focusing on Patsy. Will another lawsuit ensue?
"JonBenet's Mother: Victim or Killer?" airing Nov. 5 on Lifetime follows the network's TV movie "Who Killed JonBenet?" In the second of the two JonBenet specials, viewers will see new interviews with investigators, journalists who followed the case, and friends of Patsy who weigh in on her life before and after her daughter's shocking death."
Right in the middle of Policecallgate, and her conniving and hysterics and not-so-vague accusations, Kate tweets this:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 I’m making dinner&Alexis is reading 2me excerpts from my favorite book of poems..Where The Sidewalk Ends. #CookingAndLaughing #ItsGood2Laugh 6:30 PM - 26 Apr 2015
Such a happy home, cooking, laughing, scheming, yelling in the middle of the street.
When Kate and Jon split up Jon wanted her to go for marriage counseling with him, Kate absolutely refused. She thought she'd already lined up her next husband - Steve. She didn't want to save the marriage. She just wanted to ditch Jon for Steve.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 I’m making dinner&Alexis is reading 2me excerpts from my favorite book of poems..Where The Sidewalk Ends. #CookingAndLaughing #ItsGood2Laugh 6:30 PM - 26 Apr 2015
Oh, geez. Now Gladys will find the book and send Kate poems with her own comments.
Another one, this one focusing on Patsy. Will another lawsuit ensue?
"JonBenet's Mother: Victim or Killer?" airing Nov. 5 on Lifetime follows the network's TV movie "Who Killed JonBenet?" In the second of the two JonBenet specials, viewers will see new interviews with investigators, journalists who followed the case, and friends of Patsy who weigh in on her life before and after her daughter's shocking death."
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I've been meaning to comment about the Real Crime profile folks whom Burke is suing (or saying he is about to sue, forgot if he actually filed). For those not following it, they are former FBI profilers who did a very extensive independent investigation and determined that Burke is the killer, though accidentally, and his parents covered it up. So in the last episode about JonBenet, which aired shortly after the announcement of the lawsuit, I noticed they were very careful to say that their conclusions about Burke were just THEORIES. And that they kind of backed off from it a little bit, not coming in so strong and convicted about him.
Then, after that, the regularly scheduled weekly episode never aired with no explanation. Finally, a new episode aired, and it was super boring and off topic and they talked about what they're all up to, and claimed to be super busy. A "bonus" episode. Not a peep about Burke.
Anyway, point being, I wonder if their lawyers are scared and telling them to back off for the moment while they figure this all out. Yipe! I really like them, even though it's sometimes junk science. Hopefully this will all work out.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago OH NO! Don't tell me you are going to get another October SNOW! #OneOfYourFovoritestThings LOL Check in twiter friend! :) @Kateplusmy8
What in the world is wrong with her? Is she hitting the bottle? Unless it snows at 58 degrees (tomorrow), 75 degrees (Saturday), and 60s and 70s next week, then no, Milo, it is not going to snow.
The dad has won custody. The court documents that Dr. Phil referenced speak harshly of the mom. Dr. Phil actually lost his patience with the woman. The live audience laughed at some of the mother's accusations. The mom basically refused all help.
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Goodness. Well this is how people are supposed to react! You don't have to have any understanding of parental alienation to understand that a parent engaging in behavior like that is harming their children. It's amazing Kate's gotten away with what she has.
Goodness. Well this is how people are supposed to react! You don't have to have any understanding of parental alienation to understand that a parent engaging in behavior like that is harming their children. It's amazing Kate's gotten away with what she has.
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I know it's Jon's responsibility to go to the court with his problems with how TFW interferes with his custody, etc, but I'm surprised that their court and/or the specific judge hasn't gotten some heat (or negative press / social media) about the way TFW is manipulating not just the court and their orders, but the police, Jon, the children, etc.
What in the world is wrong with her? Is she hitting the bottle? Unless it snows at 58 degrees (tomorrow), 75 degrees (Saturday), and 60s and 70s next week, then no, Milo, it is not going to snow.
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That's funny. I was just checking out the weekend weather, and thought, good...Indian Summer through next week!
Gladys needs to put down her book of platitudes and live in the real world.
This has been mentioned in the past, but I think it bears repeating. I don't think TFW would ever have gotten away with some of this if she wasn't a pretty, slim, blonde. Look at how quickly Mama June's fortunes changed. I really think people give TFW the benefit of the doubt way more than she's deserved because of her appearance.
@FlimsyFlamsy Respectfully disagree.I think the reason some people give her the benefit of the doubt is because of the same fact,that her fans love to repeat,which is that she has 8 kids and is a single mom.Some people sadly still think if you have that many kids that you have no right to judge her unless you walked in her shoes.If God forbid something similar happen to one of Kate's kids like with June's daughter or something similar with the duggars,something tells me TLC would be quick to kick her.Lets face it,i've herd stories about some TLC staff who stopped working with her and went to work with the duggars because of her treatment of the kids and because of Kate's behavior.Plus unlike the duggars,its not like she's bringing alot more viewers then them,if so then she'd be on the air alot more but so far nothing.I would see no reason for TLC to keep her if (like i said)God forbid something happen to one the kids like with June's.
Wouldn't you think that Milo would know how to Google Accuweather and type in Kate's location? Is she/he really that dumb, or was she just wanting a response from Kate?
Milo doesn't know how to read weather maps. It's New York and central New England that are due to get the snow. You would think that she knows where Kate lives. Doofus.
Apologizes for a typo in previous stupid tweet, corrects it and goes on to post the same stupid tweet a second time? WTF is wrong with this person? Hey Milo, Kate's got some big problems right now and I don't think you're helping.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago Getting in late...pretty obvious my sight is not where it needs to be just yet. Sorry for misspelled words earlier! @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago OH NO! Don't tell me you are going to get another October SNOW! #OneOfYourFavoritestThings LOL Check in twitter friend! :) @Kateplusmy8
Tucker's Mom said... 51 Jeanne said... 50 If Kate was a grown up, there wouldn't be any police reports at all. She would have found a way from the divorce to deal with the fact that she married Jon and had children. She has responsibility for that. ****** Bingo. Parents have this responsibility when their marriage doesn't work out. It's a travesty for the kids that Kate refuses to mend fences with Jon and co-parent like a responsible adult. --------- It's almost sweet, in a aww look at that puppy that's so dull it's scared of it's tail way, that Jon ever thought co-parenting with this nutter could work.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 64 This has been mentioned in the past, but I think it bears repeating. I don't think TFW would ever have gotten away with some of this if she wasn't a pretty, slim, blonde. Look at how quickly Mama June's fortunes changed. I really think people give TFW the benefit of the doubt way more than she's deserved because of her appearance. ------- I cannot agree to strenuously with this. If Khate had been an overweight, pimply, manish woman people would have cottoned on to her psychopathy much, much sooner.
Look at how quickly Mama June's fortunes changed. I really think people give TFW the benefit of the doubt way more than she's deserved because of her appearance. ***** No doubt. Certainly, June allegedly having a relationship with a pedophile boyfriend is salacious, but as the sheeple say, hey, if she really did, wouldn't CPS have been involved and taken her kids away? Also, the G kids are cuter than Alana, sorry to be blunt. But, Alana was growing up, getting nasty and heavier, and I think the appeal of this cute little pageant girl was over anyway. TLC's problem with Kate is that it's become very, very hard to ignore Kate's mental and emotional state and the very sad situation her kids, as Kate has cast away almost everyone from their lives and is destroying their relationship with their father.
Jamesvader1194 said... 65 @FlimsyFlamsy Respectfully disagree.I think the reason some people give her the benefit of the doubt is because of the same fact,that her fans love to repeat,which is that she has 8 kids and is a single mom ***** That's another reason, but if Kate looked like Mama June, I think their tolerance for Kate's disgusting antics would be far less. I think many people identify with Kate and her nasty, man-hating nature, and root for her.
It's almost sweet, in a aww look at that puppy that's so dull it's scared of it's tail way, that Jon ever thought co-parenting with this nutter could work. ***** Ha! I think Jon assumed a lot of things way back then. Like sharing custody at the house. I thought that was an awful idea and it quickly went bad. Like thinking he could shut down filming. I think that's when Kate went nuclear and decided to destroy him. Like thinking he could act like a pimple-face, perma-boned teenager, flit about the world and spend money like a Babylonian king. That really damaged the good will he had with the public.
Anyhoo, not to beat Jon up on the past, but the dumb puppy analogy is too funny!
Look at how quickly Mama June's fortunes changed. I really think people give TFW the benefit of the doubt way more than she's deserved because of her appearance. ****** June has been trying to get back into the spotlight ever since, and has changed her appearance drastically.
To further the point about looks, do you think TLC would have given Jill and Jessa their own show (and tried to bring back the whole Duggar clan) if those two young women weren't very pretty?
Look at all of ththe stunts that she has pulled over the years and they cancelled her a couple of years ago and then they stupidly revived her again and now with all of these terrible things that have come out that happened a year and a half ago, they seem to not want to air anything.
But, is she still under a contract? Is she going rouge and filming herself for YouTube? Will TLC show Kate Plus 8 on Nov. 22nd? Will Colin be on the show?
You have to understand that TFW had TLC's legal pit bulls at her disposal for years! This gave her an enormous narc high of doing and saying whatever she wanted without being held accountable for it.
The Alaska trip is a perfect example. Mady didn't want to go. Jon was going to get her, she threatened to call the police if he showed up. Then in Alaska, Mady didn't want to pose with the family by the river. There was TFW, had grabbed Mady hard and hurt her arm. Mady was crying and looked in pain in the picture. TFW's face was grinning ear to ear.
It upset Palins camp so bad that they threatened to call the police. THEN TLC got involved. BIg wigs got on a private jet and flew to Alaska to smooth things over. It was then decided that the Gosselins would leave.
I am so proud of Mr. Palin saying what he did. It was the truth.
I think TLC is finally tired of carrying around a mop and a bucket and having to mop up her messes that she makes. Her messes now are requiring a bigger mop and bucket.
GollyGee (#77), TFW sure was living the high life for a good long while, wasn't she? She really has had an amazing run in the public eye, considering her absolute lack of talent or skill in any area, as well as her charm-free demeanor. I freely admit I never, ever would have predicted we'd all still be around talking about her, but here we are.
But I'll say it again -- she has sabotaged so many opportunities for greater success that can never be quantified. Imagine how her "brand" could have branched out -- a talk show, cooking or lifestyle show, a line of cookware. She could've pumped out books about anything from single mom concerns to crafts for kids. How about a line of yoga clothes or running gear for moms? Paid public speaking gigs around the world to talk about her unique story? But her toxic personality and mediocre work ethic have kept her at a certain level of celebrity (D list) which I don't think she's capable of rising from. With some genuine hustle and good will, she could've made so much money in the last 5 years that she would've laughed at the paltry pay from 5 or 6 episodes from TLC. So much potential squandered, and she has only herself to blame.
Anonymous said... 79 Well said FlimsyFlamsy @78 - all the things you mention could have been achieved without invading the privacy of the children.
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Good post, Flimsy! Yes, anon/bm she could of just had really higher paying jobs after just a year or two after filming with the kids, IF, she would of been a nice, hard working, humble person. It would of been great for her to ditch the tv show, filming the kids for much more money instead of chump change with TLC.
The way she acted with trying out with Paula Deen and that show, the way she balked at having to meet a couple of fans in the silver dress at the grove, how she did at Coupon Cabin. Sigh.
She just continued her path of filming destruction with making her kids her chumps to continue to keep her in the lifestyle those babies and now teenagers have given her on a silver platter.
There will be a reckoning day when they all realize it. Hannah's realization is nothing compared to what is coming.
Kate has those poor kids totally dominated. Why isn't Alexis reading from HER favorite book of poems rather than Kate's? Sounds like Alexis is doing whatever is necessary to appease Kate and Kate is too sociopathic to even realize it.
MikeB (#81), I'm so glad you made that point. I was thinking something similar. It's like TFW is so generous to be making dinner (remember how she bragged about staggering out of bed with a broken toe to cook for them?) that she deserves some sort of entertainment while she's doing it! What an actual concerned, involved mother might do is use that time to chat with her kids. Ask about THEIR day. Ask about THEIR feelings. Ask about THEIR friends. And of course, it's not to say she doesn't ever do that. But the way she talks about the dynamics of her household makes me think these children are parentified more than we ever imagined.
The point I was trying to make when I posted that tweet yesterday about Kate cooking while Alexis read her poetry was actually to point out that, while Kate was in the middle of an all-out rage, going to Jon's, yelling for Hannah, calling the police, making outrageous accusations of suspicious behavior, selling drugs, kidnapping and a hostage situation involving a gun, she's tweeting about cooking dinner and listening to poetry read to her by one of her adoring children - "cooking and laughing" like they exist in some 50s happy family television show. I'm pretty sure that wasn't a lot of laughing going on during that period of time.
Remember when TFW said she instituted "silent dinner?" If the kids are gone all day, and don't talk during dinner, and have homework to do, and then go to bed, when does she communicate with them during the school week?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 78 GollyGee (#77), TFW sure was living the high life for a good long while, wasn't she? She really has had an amazing run in the public eye, considering her absolute lack of talent or skill in any area, as well as her charm-free demeanor. I freely admit I never, ever would have predicted we'd all still be around talking about her, but here we are. ***** LOL! I don't find Kate charming on any level. Never have. At first, Kate acted demurring, but I've come to know that was just an act by a woman who clearly knows how to work people and systems.
Hey Milo, Kate's got some big problems right now and I don't think you're helping.
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And snow isn't one of those problems!
I think Milo listened to TWC report, heard "northeast snow" and her mind immediately went to Kate, as always. She doesn't seem to know exactly where Kate lives, which is in the Mid-Atlantic States region. Her lack of geographical knowledge has always been a problem for her, especially when it comes to the weather. Maybe a crash course in the location of the Eastern Seaboard would help her tremendously. After all, as Kate's Chief Executive, she needs to know these weather forecasts in order to warn Kate of impending doom.
But I'll say it again -- she has sabotaged so many opportunities for greater success that can never be quantified. Imagine how her "brand" could have branched out -- a talk show, cooking or lifestyle show, a line of cookware ***** Rachel Ray has gone from launching her own cookware line (starting with her oval pasta pot creation) to her own furniture line. She's not a spokesperson or hired shill to put her face on someone else's product. She has her very own line. I find that astonishing and for Kate to have nothing going for her in the same 10-year span of time is a bit of shame- to not have built a respectable brand that's perennial.
But the way she talks about the dynamics of her household makes me think these children are parentified more than we ever imagined. ****** I think the kids have had to vie for attention and curry favor all their lives. Except Mady; at this point, Kate's her bitch.
Flimsy Flamsy - great point about her looks. I think that's why she glammed herself up and lost weight.
I agree that the attraction is single mom/8 kids. But it's THIN, WHITE, BLONDE,BLUE EYED, single mom with 8 kids.
If she'd been a different ethnicity I don't think TLC would have backed her so heavily. If she'd been anything other than white she would have been dumped long ago. JMO.
I've always been astounded at how much TFW thinks that she can just go in and wing it on her charm. Thinking that there's absolutely NO reason why she, the great TFW, should have to put any work whatsoever into preparing for whatever it is. C'mon! She's a single mom of 8!!!!!! That should count for something, shouldn't it?
And then gets pissed off when it doesn't work out. Here she is, giving them her time and charm, and they don't even give her the job! They give it to someone who has done their homework and has expertise in the field. Everyone plots against her. Poor single mom of 8.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 82 MikeB (#81), I'm so glad you made that point. I was thinking something similar. It's like TFW is so generous to be making dinner (remember how she bragged about staggering out of bed with a broken toe to cook for them?) that she deserves some sort of entertainment while she's doing it! What an actual concerned, involved mother might do is use that time to chat with her kids. Ask about THEIR day. Ask about THEIR feelings. Ask about THEIR friends. And of course, it's not to say she doesn't ever do that. But the way she talks about the dynamics of her household makes me think these children are parentified more than we ever imagined.
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But, but, but, Flimsy! Remember when she was telling the. That she got up with her BROKEN FOOT to fix them breakfast and the kids started screeching, BROKEN TOE, BROKEN TOE!!!!
Remember when she posted the x-ray and it was a broken toe, but the wrong foot.
She was busted. She is such a narc that she thinks the public will believe HER over the children. Especially, Gladys.
There was a girl at work who said she had sprained her ankle and said that the doctor ordered her to wear a walking cast. That put her on light duty and she loved it.
After several months, one morning she walked in and had the walking cast boot on the wrong foot!!
I think she got another job and left after that. She had 6 children by 6 different men and didn't even have custody of one of her children.
Then in Alaska, Mady didn't want to pose with the family by the river. There was TFW, had grabbed Mady hard and hurt her arm. Mady was crying and looked in pain in the picture. TFW's face was grinning ear to ear. ****************************************** Is that what Mady was upset about? She didn't want to pose by the river? I didn't know that. Geez Kate, you're such a loser...
I find that astonishing and for Kate to have nothing going for her in the same 10-year span of time is a bit of shame- to not have built a respectable brand that's perennial.
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She's burned too many bridges and has had too many failures. She wasn't smart enough to see that you don't go around biting hands that might be of benefit to you at some point. Nothing, other than the show, has seemed to work out for her. It's always amazed me that the sheeple just can't understand why she gets so much negative tabloid press. She's not a nice person, and as such, who would want to work with a shrew (other than TLC and her rode manager)?
I do think, though, that recently some of the fans have seen the light.
Well, Milo, my mowing guy just finished cutting my grass. Of course, he had to plow through a foot of snow in order to do it! ;-) Tomorrow a balmy 75 degrees! Yes! I love it!
Has anyone heard anything from Auntie? The last time she commented here she was looking for a pork roast in her freezer. I hope she's okay. I miss my drinking partner!
Tucker's Mom (75) Maybe,however if something (heaven forbid) similar happen to the gosselin kids.Like for example,steve did something bad to one of the gosselin girls,Kate will throw him under the bus and play dumb by claiming she had no idea he was like that,despite the fact that she knew steve for so many years.I don't know if TLC will defend her,however i seen a comment by a crazy Kate supporter that said that it would be Jon's fault if something bad happened to one of his children.I don't think Kate's show would be a huge lost though since she's already hated by most people.IF however it happen during the Jon and Kate glory days however,i feel they would try to paint both parents as victims.
I'm watching A Haunting on TLC, and guess what they are advertising? A new "People Magazine" show! Isn't that interesting, considering that they have always been in each other's back pockets. Also some new treasure hunting show, two ads (within a 30-minute span) for the new season of Outdaughtered, but no sign of K+8.
Tucker's Mom, Yep, People Magazine got their own show. It's called People Magazine Investigates. Three ads in an hour. Then there is a new show called Treasure Quest (two ads in an hour), and Outdaughtered got 4 ads. Also 3 ads for 90-Day Fiance and two for Duggars. No mention of Kate plus 8. I wonder if that November 22 date is accurate.They're promoting the heck out of everything else.
Layla said... 96 I'm watching A Haunting on TLC, and guess what they are advertising? A new "People Magazine" show! _____
I wonder if Kate Coyne will be the host! That ought to guarantee Katie G at least a little more air time. Speaking of Coyne, her book sales have been abysmal---not K8 cookbook abysmal, but pretty awful for a celeb-focused memoir by a long-term People mag flack. I don't see any more books in her future.
Sad but true said... 102 Layla said... 96 I'm watching A Haunting on TLC, and guess what they are advertising? A new "People Magazine" show!
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I'm watching it, too. This area is rich in hex, folklore and hauntings. Kindred Spirits is next. I like Amy and Adam.
I'll watch a paranormal show, but I really don't like the ones that have demonic possessions. We have a ghost here (or at least spirit energy) but it's a friendly soul and we live in peaceful co-existence. He came with the house at no extra charge.
We had a ghost many years ago when we lived in an historic house. She was a friendly sort, so we co-existed peacefully. We named her Elizabeth. I kind of miss her--she added a lot of character to our home, and made for a great story (even though, after spotting her late one night, my brother-in-law refused to ever be in our house after dark again--the wuss).
I saw on one of the Outdaughtered ads they showed one of the babies in the hospital, with someone putting an oxygen mask on her. What is wrong with reality TV parents? A medical crisis is not a filming opportunity. Why is it that as soon as cameras come around, all of the parents' concern for their children's privacy disappears?
If ignorance is bliss then these church ladies are the happiest people on earth.
BARBIE J. TRUMP @barbiejeansayre Just HERD #HillaryClinton arrested for EMAILS amen amen my TRUMP wins again see ya SIS have fun in you're jump suit LMBO
hen these church ladies are the happiest people on earth.
BARBIE J. TRUMP @barbiejeansayre Just HERD #HillaryClinton arrested for EMAILS amen amen my TRUMP wins again see ya SIS have fun in you're jump suit LMBO
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That lot really does tickle the funny bone. Today's headlines were huge, and alarming, but how on earth do you interpret "Hillary sent to jail" out of them? LOL.
Huge news out of PA. Mike McQueary won a whopping 7 million dollar lawsuit against the college for defaming him.
There were a couple folks around here back around that time who were adamant he was the bad guy. In the end, McQueary came out victorious. I've aways felt he did the best he could against tremendous odds, was never given any support or reassurance while always sticking to the truth of his story, and I hope he sees every cent of that money and does some good with it. Some of the jurors are speaking and it's clear they put tremendous thought into this verdict. Well done, PA.
I saw on one of the Outdaughtered ads they showed one of the babies in the hospital, with someone putting an oxygen mask on her. What is wrong with reality TV parents? A medical crisis is not a filming opportunity. -------------- I've seen parents snapping pictures of their child BEING RESUSCITATED and immediately uploading them to FB. Nothing surprises me anymore. I try not to be judgemental but it's tough because if my kid's heart stopped beating, snapping a picture(much less instantly uploading it on a social media platform) wouldn't even cross my mind. I'd be busy being petrified that my child's heart is..you know NOT BEATING.
Some of the jurors are speaking and it's clear they put tremendous thought into this verdict. Well done, PA. ***** I did see that and was going to post about it. I remember a lot of great discussion here about his case in relationship to the Sandusky scandal at Penn State. IIRC there was a good deal of talk about work culture and why someone who's immersed in such a strong environment might not blurt out, "Call 911!!" and go directly to the police. McQueary was never the bad guy. In fact, he was eventually instrumental in breaking that horrible code of silence that Joe Paterno fostered in his football-frenzied institution. Maybe it's because I'm from PA that I can say that Penn State is football, and football is Penn State. It was a monolithic program that dominated through proud generations of locals and alumni who bled blue.
Just HERD #HillaryClinton arrested for EMAILS amen amen my TRUMP wins again see ya SIS have fun in you're jump suit LMBO ******* Hold yer horses there, church ladies! Not quite! Although, the announcement coming on Friday afternoon shortly before close of business will leave a lot of people speculating wildly all weekend long. I'm going to relax with some Rumspringa ;-) Actually, a cocktail and a little wine. DH and I are having a small dinner party tonight and I think I'll enjoy some libations and not worry about the election until Monday.
Yes. She didn't want to pose with the family and TFW flipped out and grabbed her and hurt her arm. TLC sent a private jet all the way to Alaska to fix the problem.
TFW can't have a child not pose with the family. That is how much a contract-honorer our Katie is!
On another trip, this time to Alaska, Mady couldn’t take it anymore and called Jon the night before, begging him to come and get her and take her back to his apartment.
She absolutely did not want to go away for more filming, and especially not as far away as Alaska. I know this because I went to Kate’s house that night with Jon to pick up Mady, and I heard the discussion between Jon and Kate – through the intercom at the gate.
Kate completely disregarded Jon’s concerns about Mady and blew it off by saying that Mady was just tired and she didn’t mean what she said.
She, of course, managed to insult Jon several times during the exchange. This was at night, in the dark, with no paparazzi watching; it was just a loving father coming to get his unhappy daughter who had called him for help.
Jon told Kate that he would be back in the morning to get Mady, and Kate told him that she would have the police at the house to arrest him if he tried.
Mady went to Alaska. While only a handful of people knew about the drama leading up to the Alaska trip, the family photo that TLC released to the media to promote the episode actually ended up giving away the fact that something was going on with Mady.
Google it and look at the photo closely for yourself. You’ll see a very smiley Kate with all the kids. But if you look at Mady, on the far right, you’ll see how sad and miserable she is.
She’s crying in the publicity photo. That photo is all the proof anyone would ever need to see that she didn’t want to be there.
TLC couldn’t come up with one single publicity “still” where Mady appeared even a little bit happy. Not one. That picture was worth a thousand words.
In the recent days, we have been informed there are a lot of lies circulating about us. Just so you know we have worked hard to show you our real life and we have succeeded. Although it is not always easy we will continue to show you the good, the bad and the ugly on our show.
Unfortunately, as with anyone who is on TV there are jealous bystanders, family included, who for whatever reason insist upon telling hurtful untruths. We will continue to love these family members.
We will not retaliate. We will leave it alone out of respect for them. But as a reminder, nothing that you read on the internet or in print is true unless it is approved by us.
Thank you for watching as our family grows and develops. Our children have always been our priority, will continue to be our top priority and quite honestly nothing else matters to us.
(This message has been personally written by Jon and Kate Gosselin)
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Continue to love these family members.
Kate Speak: We will continue to love certain family members that we have kicked to the curb because they didn't know how to help us and love them to STAY AWAY FROM US FOREVER!!
Kate blew so many opportunities and I guess people figured a cute blond mom of 8 was a winner. What was missing? An inquisitive mind and TALENT. The fact that everything TLC has aired over the past few years is a rehash proves she cannot come up with any fresh ideas. Neither can TLC. She is limited to hawking her kids and playing the single RICH mom. I believe plenty of fans have moved on to better shows. Yeah, it's interesting to see how he kids have grown, but it does not warrant a season of nonsense. Do a Christmas special, TLC, if you have to keep trotting them out.
Hold yer horses there, church ladies! Not quite! Although, the announcement coming on Friday afternoon shortly before close of business will leave a lot of people speculating wildly all weekend long. I'm going to relax with some Rumspringa ;-)\
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This couldn't be better news for Trump. They're not going to be able to go through the thousands of emails in 11 days. Even if they are benign, they're not going to be able to say that in 11 days. So the speculation and innuendo can continue right through the election.
She must be wanting to strangle Weiner right now! What a dolt!
You know the talking heads predicted that there was going to be one more bombshell just days before the election. I was like no, there's nothing else to say. And then this!
It's been a wild ride but I can't say I haven't enjoyed it. The polling is tight again, pretty much within the margin of error. It's anyone's race and is going to come down to a few key swing states. I wonder if Kate will congratulate your honor if he wins.
I believe she is obsessed with Steve and if the money goes away, so will he, thus filming at any cost, even if it meant faking feelings for another man. After all, she faked her marriage at the end and was prepared to continue the farce for filming. Disappointed that Jeff never addressed Steve's involvement unless that would have triggered him getting sued.
On another trip, this time to Alaska, Mady couldn’t take it anymore and called Jon the night before, begging him to come and get her and take her back to his apartment.
She absolutely did not want to go away for more filming, and especially not as far away as Alaska. I know this because I went to Kate’s house that night with Jon to pick up Mady, and I heard the discussion between Jon and Kate – through the intercom at the gate.
Kate completely disregarded Jon’s concerns about Mady and blew it off by saying that Mady was just tired and she didn’t mean what she said.
She, of course, managed to insult Jon several times during the exchange. This was at night, in the dark, with no paparazzi watching; it was just a loving father coming to get his unhappy daughter who had called him for help.
Jon told Kate that he would be back in the morning to get Mady, and Kate told him that she would have the police at the house to arrest him if he tried.
Mady went to Alaska. While only a handful of people knew about the drama leading up to the Alaska trip, the family photo that TLC released to the media to promote the episode actually ended up giving away the fact that something was going on with Mady.
Google it and look at the photo closely for yourself. You’ll see a very smiley Kate with all the kids. But if you look at Mady, on the far right, you’ll see how sad and miserable she is.
She’s crying in the publicity photo. That photo is all the proof anyone would ever need to see that she didn’t want to be there.
TLC couldn’t come up with one single publicity “still” where Mady appeared even a little bit happy. Not one. That picture was worth a thousand words.
I did see that and was going to post about it. I remember a lot of great discussion here about his case in relationship to the Sandusky scandal at Penn State. IIRC there was a good deal of talk about work culture and why someone who's immersed in such a strong environment might not blurt out, "Call 911!!" and go directly to the police.
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The verdict was a nice acknowledgment that this employee was bullied and called a liar and pushed around when he was just trying to tell the truth. He may be due even more money for being fired. He NEVER should have been fired, that's out and out retaliation against a whistleblower. You can't get this picky with HOW employees are disclosing things when it comes to this situation. Especially when there was NO protocol in place for how to handle what he was saying or if there was, it was blatantly disregarded. It's an unclean hands thing, they totally botched it, but then want to blame him for not being perfect? The point is he disclosed it, and it was then on his employer to take the reins. He's probably going to win that one too. I'm glad they're finally picking out those people in the "clean sweep" who never deserved to be there, and giving them justice.
I'm so happy for Penn State they are turning around their season. I *cried* when they beat Ohio State.
GollyGee (#113), TFW continued to love those family members until she decided they didn't know how to help her. Then, alas, it was curb-kickin' time.
So TFW's children are her top priority, and "quite honestly nothing else matters." But judging by her behavior since the divorce, and most notably this latest information about how she's tried to destroy their father, I think the opposite is true -- everything else matters more than they do to her.
RoxyHelen (#108), I share your disbelief at the lengths these people will go for attention. Respect for their children's privacy is not even in the equation.
Does anyone remember when Ma Duggar filmed her child with her phone after he fell into an orchestra pit? Wouldn't her hands have been put to better use comforting him, or tending one of the other of her 423 children? Nope -- she had to capture it on film. As TFW once said, "Our life is our show and our show is our life." Blech.
I think she got another job and left after that. She had 6 children by 6 different men and didn't even have custody of one of her children
I am overall appalled at the character of CNA's at skilled nursing facilities. So few nurses, and the one's we have encountered with our relatives living out their golden years due to age or sickness is just blows my mind. Anybody watch the HBO series, Getting On? It starred Jackie from Roseanne,Laurie Metcalf. Wonderful show but a good look at the care of the elderly.
Now with my Dad, we have arranged to keep him home in a redesigned rambler with cameras everywhere and a private team.
Golly Gee (118) Mady was obviously very upset and crying in that photo. The sheeple claimed she didn't want to stand close to the river because she might get her feet wet. Where did they come up with that? Kate never said it. Then Milo chimed in and said, "Who cares why she was crying?" They did not (and still do not) care even a tiny bit about the kids' well-being or happiness--as long as Kate is getting what she wants.
Check out the family photo of the Gs on the TLC site. Alexis is sitting, arms crossed, scowling. ANother unhappy kid, and Kate, as always, grinning like a goon. She could not care less.
Vee (122) Anybody watch the HBO series, Getting On? It starred Jackie from Roseanne,Laurie Metcalf. Wonderful show but a good look at the care of the elderly.
-------- "Getting On" was one of the best shows I've seen on television. Darkly humorous and, from what my sister, who's a geriatric nurse tells me, very realistic. I hope it returns. For those who haven't seen it, it's on HBO Go.
Disappointed that Jeff never addressed Steve's involvement unless that would have triggered him getting sued.
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I think he just took the high road in that and didn't want to get into the middle of it and point fingers, triggering more tabloid stories. I don't believe he was worried about getting sued.
Layla (#123), I agree that most of the fans, and Gladys in particular, are not truly interested in the welfare of the kids. Look at the deafening silence about C's absence. Gladys has been in puppy overdrive, and hasn't said boo about C being gone. For someone who has asked about everything from what TFW was cooking for dinner, to which child wore their underwear out the fastest, it's interesting that she has not asked question one about C -- is he coming back, does he visit, do they visit him, is he making progress, how are the other kids coping, etc. Of course, none of that is any of her business -- nor is it ours -- but if she honestly cared about that little boy as she professed to when she posted that picture of him, I'd think she would ask about him.
Jane said... 124 Vee (122) Anybody watch the HBO series, Getting On? It starred Jackie from Roseanne,Laurie Metcalf. Wonderful show but a good look at the care of the elderly.
-------- "Getting On" was one of the best shows I've seen on television. Darkly humorous and, from what my sister, who's a geriatric nurse tells me, very realistic. I hope it returns. For those who haven't seen it, it's on HBO Go.
****** We've discussed Getting On before and people in healthcare can really appreciate how realistic it feels. The actors who played the patients were SO authentic. They really were those old people in the beds, God bless them! One of the best tv shows I've ever seen. You might also like Call The Midwife and Where The Heart Is.
Anyone watching WestWorld? We watched the pilot and it's very dark, but interesting. I never watched the original.
Billy Bob Thornton in Goliath was excellent. Another great performance. Weird-ass dude, but he can act.
Another British comedy I loved is Boomers.
I'm getting to know all the familiar British faces at this point!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 127 Layla (#123), I agree that most of the fans, and Gladys in particular, are not truly interested in the welfare of the kids **** The sheep care that the kids stay on their tv sets. That's it. They want those kids producing episodes so that they can view new stuff that they haven't seen yet. I don't understand why they don't get what exactly it is they're demanding.
She must be wanting to strangle Weiner right now! What a dolt! ***** It will be stunning if the presidential election comes down to Carlos Danger and his "junk". This is surreal.
Yeah, it's interesting to see how he kids have grown, but it does not warrant a season of nonsense. Do a Christmas special, TLC, if you have to keep trotting them out. ****** Amen. Look at the McCaugheys. The kids do media every few years for milestones like H.S. graduation. Otherwise, most folks couldn't pick any one of them out of a line up.
@Layla Maybe its just me,but speaking of photos,am i the only one who notices how on the TLC kate plus 8 page,they've haven't be uploading alot of the travel photos like back then?The last time they uploaded new travel photos was from the New England episode,which was in January of last year.No travel photos since then.I wonder why they stopped doing that.
For someone who has asked about everything from what TFW was cooking for dinner, to which child wore their underwear out the fastest, it's interesting that she has not asked question one about C -- is he coming back, does he visit, do they visit him, is he making progress, how are the other kids coping, etc.
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It's possible she's afraid to ask because it will open Kate up to all the negative comments about sending him away. Gladys is pretending it didn't happen.
Moreover, don't you know that they have this very special bond and communicate in so many ways?Gladys, in her own little fantasy world, most likely believes that Kate has been keeping her up to date on Collin and his whereabouts.
I think he just took the high road in that and didn't want to get into the middle of it and point fingers, triggering more tabloid stories. I don't believe he was worried about getting sued.
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Yeah, except he has trashed Kate in the tabloids. He could have just kept his mouth shut.
Milo doesn't bring up Colin because she deflecting. She's just taking cues from Kate. If Kate brought up Colin, Milo would be the Town Crier, ringing her bell in the square, attributing any positive news to Kate the Great.
Any info. from locals that corroborates the corn maze and filming with Colin sighting? I wonder if Colin is home or gets to visit.
Check out the family photo of the Gs on the TLC site. Alexis is sitting, arms crossed, scowling. Another unhappy kid, and Kate, as always, grinning like a goon. She could not care less. *********************************************** I personally thought that was "staged" and not real. But maybe I'm wrong.
FlimsyFlamsy Does anyone remember when Ma Duggar filmed her child with her phone after he fell into an orchestra pit? ---------------------
Vividly. I also remember the Duggars bringing an entire filming crew in the NICU room, to film their over 3 months premature, struggling to live, daughter.
So the Busbys are getting a new season but the Gardners are still ignored? God, that must be killing Ashley and Tyson. They want to be the next J&K+8 type of hit show sooo badly.
Layla, have you watched Hell House on ID? It's really quite interesting with true stories of estates and their tragic pasts, murders, suicides, spirits and such. You get a little bit about the history of an area. You are welcome to send your Elizabeth here to keep my ghost company. He's a Civil War soldier, so I hope they would be compatible. It would keep him busy for a while and out of my hair and car.
Welp, as the West Virginia women say...I must go soak in a hot bath because my back is killing me after all the shoveling. We lost all of our driveway trees in this Halloween storm. They are saying it's a rare occurrence in 72 degree weather.
At least I got my pig stomach ready for the oven tomorrow. I know you all are just dying for the recipe, so here is the one I use:
1 pig stomach (hog maw) 2 pounds sausage 4 large potatoes, cut into chunks 4 carrots cut into chunks 4 Tbsp fresh parsley 1 large chopped onion 1 medium head cabbage, chopped
Rinse the pig stomach and pat it dry. Put all of the vegetables into a bowl and toss. Remove the casing from the sausage and crumble it, or use fresh ground sausage. Add to the vegetables and mix well.
Stuff the stomach with the mixture, and using a needle and thread, tie up the stomach.
Bake at 350 degrees for two hours until it's brown. I usually put a bit of beef or vegetable broth in the bottom of the pan so the stomach doesn't stick. The skin is the best part!
I'm not sure if it freezes well. I know someone will ask! ;-)
Here's a link to an article called "The 100 Greatest Reality-TV Couples Ever, Ranked"
Jon & Kate ranked #4.
"4. Jon & Kate Gosselin (Jon & Kate Plus 8) When this show about a Pennsylvania couple and their unlikely brood premiered on TLC, it was little more than a curiosity. However, after a very public and acrimonious breakup that the tabloids framed as Jon's midlife crisis, the show's fifth-season premiere attracted almost 10 million viewers. Though the show was later revamped as Kate Plus 8 (after Jon relented and allowed his kids to appear on camera), people were never as curious as when the Gosselin family was falling apart."
How and why does someone such as Milo develop such an unhealthy, unnatural obsession with a celebrity, and Kate in particular? Does it begin as just a girl crush and then develop into full-blown lust?
Out of all the female celebrities from which to choose, why Kate?
When I first saw the headline all I saw was this had something to do with Anthony Weiner. I was like, huh? HOW? Is this a parody? LOL. ****** From WikiLeaks to DickyLeaks ;-)
I don't believe the sighting of Colin and siblings in a pumpkin patch. Colin has shown he doesn't know how to help her. I truly don't expect he will ever come home. She must be unhappy the People story about him didn't get her any sympathy. When he was home he needed lots of special attention. Kate doesn't do special attention unless it's applied to her.
The Marine Core Marathon runners just took off this morning. I wonder if Kate is somewhere in there. It's right in Steve's neck of the woods where she seems to be a whole lot anyway. Oh, who am I kidding. Running doesn't know how to help Kate anymore ;-)
Tucker's Mom (#152), thanks for that bit of nostalgia. Remember when she was a running mama? Couponing, blogging, dancing, yoga, writing...so many personas she tried to adopt. Yet she still tries to convince everyone of the most outlandish and unbelievable persona of them all -- that she's a great mother.
You know,seeing Milo and Goody police Kate's twitter and once again blaming the haters for the reason Kate's not on twitter anymore,i have to wonder.If TLC cancelled Kate are they going to blame haters and say they harass Kate to the point TLC had to cancel?You know there will be some kind of excuse from these two.In fact,question for the ones who've been here since 2011,im curious as to who or what the fans blamed for TLC cancelling Kate?
Jamesvader1194 said... 154 . . . In fact,question for the ones who've been here since 2011,im curious as to who or what the fans blamed for TLC cancelling Kate? _____
Her ratings were in the toilet. She was getting way under a million viewers by the end. And then there were the RV episodes, where she showed America just how entitled, spoiled, selfish and stupid she was. I don't recall the fans blaming haters, they could see what was going on. Remember, this was at least a year before anything in Hoffman's book started coming out.
The fans will blame Jon. They'll run trough their usual litany of lame excuses; he began running around with other women, he couldn't keep a job, he was lazy.
Jamesvader1194 said... 154 You know,seeing Milo and Goody police Kate's twitter and once again blaming the haters for the reason Kate's not on twitter anymore,i have to wonder ***** Could it be that Kate's Twitter became a porn fest? Frankly, I agree with Kate not posting there anymore, but think she'll be right back to her "Twitter parties" and "I'll follow you if you parrot lines from our show!!" when and if TLC runs it.
RoxyHelen....I think TLC saw that Ashley Gardner was cut from the same cloth as Kate. The Busby's come across as relatively normal and wholesome. The Gardners have daily posts on You Tube as well as a blog. They are making money on their Etsy shop as well as other business ventures. They seem to have money to burn on their extravagant lifestyle, all the while accepting gifts from their followers. They are getting called out on their lazy parenting and when compared to Kate, people think Kate is the better parent. I cannot imagine Ashley ever spanking her babies though.
Could it be that Kate's Twitter became a porn fest? Frankly, I agree with Kate not posting there anymore, but think she'll be right back to her "Twitter parties" and "I'll follow you if you parrot lines from our show!!" when and if TLC runs it.
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You are right, Tucker's. It is disgusting that a mom of 8 would let that putrid twitter account stay alive. If she can spend the children's money to buy bots to say good things about her, she can spend her money to get them off.
This is why she went to IG and being able to delete unwanted comments.
She blew the opportunity of having a great website like PW, but the elephant in the room is that she is TOO LAZY! It would be better for her to film for the 40K and make money that way than pull in money off a website.
She gets a bigger narc fix that away, don'tcha know!
I cannot imagine Ashley ever spanking her babies though.
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I am not saying that Ashley does spank, we don't know for sure, but a lot of people never imagined that TFW would spank her babies either. When the ugly truth came out, it was worse than any of us could imagine!
Throwing your 2 year old boy into his crib and beat him with the wooden spoon, into his crib, just because he had a potty accident!!!
kateplusmy8 When your gorgeous deck transitions so beautifully to fall, it helps ease the pain of another summer gone by... Thanks yet again @timbertechdeck and @breyerconstruct for your combined genius expertise! #InAwe #SoBlessed #TimberTechDeck 🍂🍁🍂 (photo credit: Mady G :)
Why does she keep mentioning the contractor? I smell . . . somethin'.
Ugh, those lights strung from poles (which do not appear to be part of the deck) look so tacky. If you're going to spend that kind of money on a deck, wouldn't you plan for appropriate lighting? There has to have been a designer involved.
Throwing your 2 year old boy into his crib and beat him with the wooden spoon, into his crib, just because he had a potty accident!!!
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She wrote that she picked him up by the hair and threw him into his crib, but is there anything written in the journals that she beat him in his crib with the wooden spoon?
Rainbowsandunicorns (#164), I think it was A that got a beating when he had an accident after only 2 days of potty training. C's crib throwing was another incident. Pretty awful when there are so many cases of mistreatment that it's hard to keep them straight. At the hands of their own mother, and told in her own words.
I read the post (160) and thought she picked Collin up by the hair, threw him into the crib and then beat him with a spoon. So these were separate incidents and different boys? Still horrible. I don't even want to think about it. How could anyone do this to a child?
I believe A's beating was for having a poopy incident after a few days of potty training. C was thrown into the crib with a beating for more general misbehavior. Was it the m&m's and tissue boxes? Something very toddler-ish. It still amazes me that she wrote down this crap. Maybe she thought she would be applauded for living through such terrible things like piles of tissues. No idea if she used the wooden spoon for either one but her love of implements for beating is appalling.
Third. FOUR seats for the fire pit? Odd considering the family size and most folks have a ton of seating for "friends" too. Oh that's right....there's only Stevie anyway.
Fourth. There's a gate on the deck, I assume to keep the pups from wandering off (or the kids, LOL). Remember we saw part of a kennel pictured on the deck? I suspect the pups live out there, not inside except for the photo ops.
@TLC Stinks I would be shocked if there's no puppy pictures of them in halloween costumes.Especially when the kids no longer pose for a halloween picture.
I've never heard of this website before, but they seem to have a pretty detailed description of K8's next "season." They don't indicate when. Did TLC make an actual announcement somewhere?
Hi everyone, Happy Halloween! Tonight is the Halloween episode of Dancing With The Stars, it's always lots of fun to see what costumes and staging they come up with!
OMG the bellowing. They're talking over-drama, whining, screaming, and that's just in the first 45 seconds. Turn down your volume if you bother watching. Oh and air date IS 11/22 at 10 p.m.
Did someone really write this with a straight face? There's NO laughing whatsoever in the clip they've posted it's all screaming and shrieking. And what family (besides nuclear) are they talking about?
BTW, I did not catch sight of Collin at all.
7) Lots of Laughter With so much quality time together this season, all that family time means tons of hilarious and cringe-worthy moments. From wrangling the energetic kids, to dealing with two teens who are about to be driving, Kate's got a lot on her plate. But through all the stress of parenting, she and the kids continue to find the humor and happiness in each of life's daily challenges. Even after all the years, appreciation for family has always been the glue that's held them together.
The announcement is on TLC's FB page, but not (yet) on their K8 page. Interestingly, out of the first 30 comments, 3 are positive. The remainder are pretty much: "Why?," "Mady is so disrespectful," and "Where is The Little Couple?" LOL!
They were in New Orleans just like it was reported!
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Lately it seems like all the sightings we hear about end up being true. I think they're such old news now people don't bother to post false sightings. They get bored with such silly pranks.
Even after all the years, appreciation for family has always been the glue that's held them together. ******* Seriously? OK, if you consider the kids and Kate family, but everyone else is kicked to the curb. I really don't like the narrative and the kids and Kate being family. Their family includes Jon. Man, when you know what we know about their situation, the parental alienation, the emotional problems, this is such b.s.
Oh dear.What a face she made and what horrible squawks from Kate. The kids have her pegged. I felt sad watching even this short clip knowing Collin is far away from home, such as it is. Halloween with out his brothers. The girls seem not to have changed since the last fiasco episode.
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It's hard not to chuckle about this thug persona TFW has created for Jon. I'm remembering him in his bumblebee sweater
at the Shady Maple buffet -- a dorky young IT guy with 8 kids, who seemed to be the calm voice of reason around her drama. Does she really expect America to believe that sweet dad we watched washing his little daughters' hair has turned into a reckless hoodlum?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 200
Jamezvader1194 (#197), and if TFW was really, truly, sincerely so concerned about her children's safety and welfare, why wouldn't she just pull the plug on the show and get those kids out of the spotlight?
#HorribleMomLife
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Or for that matter, why wouldn't she simply honor the custody arrangements that have been ordered by the court (including Jon's emergency custody order that allowed him to have Hannah on that Monday) and not presume to change things up every time the regular visits with dad interfere with filming? Or her whims?
Besides saying publicly that he doesn't think it's good for his kids, Jon hasn't interfered with her filming (up until this incident with Hannah, we surmise). But in Kate's mind, he might, and that's a good enough reason to attempt to bury him. She was just throwing shit out there to see if she could make something stick, she has no proof of (and probably no real belief in) any of the things she accused him of. She's trying to goad him to the point where he throws up his hands, says I can't take it anymore, and walks out of his children's lives. Unfortunately for her, he was always the far more patient one in that family.
She's a spoiled little brat who cannot deal with not getting her own way ALL of the time. I believe she does want him stripped of all of his parental rights, whether or not it's good for the kids. And with last year's flurry of police reports, she showed her hand, so I hope he's preparing accordingly. How I would love to see him defeat her in court.
I also think Kate's "whoopsie" tweet that she made public, “I’m in 24 hour protection mode here. Can you find out where Jon DJ’s tonight and tomorrow pm literally ASAP?' shows how wound up she was. It also appears she wanted to spy on him and put a PI on his tail.
Unreal.
This has to be one of the worst examples of failure to co-parent that I've ever heard of.
After making these misguided outrageous accusations I don't understand how she or TLC could possibly think anyone would admire her lack of mothering instinct. Surely by now TLC must realize by continuing with the show the network is leaving itself open to litigation by the childen who have been harmed when the parents signed them up for this circus.
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After making these misguided outrageous accusations I don't understand how she or TLC could possibly think anyone would admire her lack of mothering instinct. Surely by now TLC must realize by continuing with the show the network is leaving itself open to litigation by the childen who have been harmed when the parents signed them up for this circus.
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That's what I don't understand. Kate's not longer the tabloid queen she once was. The show's high water mark was ages ago, and has been steady, although drawing in far, far less viewers.
Pretty much everything they do is a repeat. See kids do x,y and z. Year after year.
I really don't get why the filming continues.
There's so much sad, bad and really ugly stuff that's developed and anytime Kate tries to sit on her throne and spin things, who's going to believe it?
Besides her handful of fans in the U.S. and overseas watchers who have no clue about this shit show.
Can you find out where Jon DJ’s tonight and tomorrow pm literally ASAP?' shows how wound up she was. It also appears she wanted to spy on him and put a PI on his tail.
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But wouldn't any PI worth his pay know exactly how and where to find Jon? Why would Kate have to put out an APB on him?
Who knows when Kate put the P.I. on Jon. Sounds like the whole Hannah incident escalated rather quickly.
I'm wondering if the PI was long gone by then. Even PIs have some common sense and ethics and any good one would pick up the fact that she's totally unhinged and that it's to the point where it would be wrong to keep taking her money and uncovering absolutely nothing. They may very well have terminated the job by that time, letting her know they uncovered nothing.
Jeanne said...
I do not give Steve the benefit of the doubt. He has taken complete advantage of this situation since the day he met Kate. He obviously realized how much she needed his "help" and has taken all he can take. A bodyguard as back-up estate manager, as someone on financial accounts, as someone who is so much not an employee that he argues with Kate. It's wrong. He contributed to the break-up of her marriage, he knows the details of abuse, he knows her problems. He has no morals. I don't care if he is holding her together. Maybe if she imploded she could get help instead of being on tv.
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I agree. Steve is a part of all of this mess. They argue because they are very, very close personally.
Sad but true said:
HER WILL
In a 2009 version of the Gosselin Family Education Trust obtained exclusively by In Touch, Kate named her bodyguard Steve Neild as a successor co-trustee if Jon is unable to serve, and arranged for his kids [STEVE's kids??? However does that work?] to benefit if there's money left over. "This shows an extreme trust in their relationship," explains estate attorney Ross L. Schiller, who doesn't advise the Gosselins.
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This proves Steve is considered more than an employee. The guy has plenty at stake with this family. Dirtbag.
Tucker's Mom said... 7
Pretty much everything they do is a repeat. See kids do x,y and z. Year after year.
I really don't get why the filming continues.
There's so much sad, bad and really ugly stuff that's developed and anytime Kate tries to sit on her throne and spin things, who's going to believe it?
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You would think the "crew family," some of whom have watched this all unfold over the entire saga, would stand up at some point and just say, this is wrong. I get that their jobs are on the line, but what a conflict. Although I really do doubt that anyone at TLC or Figure 8 had a clear idea of what these police reports have revealed. I hope they pay close attention to the details, this is the kind of fabricated nonsense that Katie could well throw at them some day. Who would volunteer to be on the receiving end of that?
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This proves Steve is considered more than an employee. The guy has plenty at stake with this family. Dirtbag.
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And this was 2009! He'd barely been with them a year at that point. I think Jon's suspicions about this guy were dead on.
"This shows an extreme trust in their relationship," explains estate attorney Ross L. Schiller, who doesn't advise the Gosselins.
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I get that this is a talking head who is just making a statement and doesn't really have the kind of knowledge that those of us following it do, but, no, just no.
What this shows, is she is a delusional nut job. Who puts their bodyguard and HIS kids in the will instead of leaving it all to their husband, children, other relatives, or charity??
IF Steve even knew about this, he should have had a come to Jesus moment with her and told her to leave her money to her CHILDREN and leave him the armoire or something. Or what about leaving whatever is extra to Jodi's children, your nieces and nephews? So whatever happened with Jodi, her children had nothing to do with it. Kate's so darn childish. It's like a 5th grader wrote a pretend will for fun and left half their money to their teacher and the other half to their crush of the month plus some to the family dog. Cute at that age, stupid once you're a grown-up.
Man, I sometimes really wish she were in front of the judges I practice in front of. They'd clean her clock with the shit she pulls. Custody would go to Jon, end of story. She'd probably have monitored visits and maybe even a restraining order restricting her from stalking Jon.
Is L.A. just really progressive on parental alienation, or is PA really, really behind? Or is this just an anomaly.
I really think part of the problem is she is allowed to get away with this behavior, and "rewarded" with custody.
And this was 2009! He'd barely been with them a year at that point. I think Jon's suspicions about this guy were dead on.
October 26, 2016 at 6:19 PM
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In Robert's book, he talked about how many photos Kate had of Steve, from their family (filmed) vacations. I think she was taken with him early on. In 2008, they filmed in the OBX of NC. Steve was never seen on camera, but Katie's cell phone was FULL of pics of Steve and Steve and the kids.
None of Jon.
This was 2008.
Also, when Jon and Cara wen to Utah to film, Kate sent Steve along. He was sort of her intermediary, keeping tabs on everything and reporting back to Kate about what and how Cara was doing.
(were cell phones not around at the time such that Kate could actually speak with her daughter across the country?).
Kate never communicated with Jon-or if she did, it was not even close to her reaching out to Steve daily.
I guess Steve never needed an emergency to get her attention when they were apart. No news is not good news when it comes to Steve. Jon, yes. The kids, yes.
Robert also shared his thoughts about Steve and evidently, he thinks the guy's pernicious, too.
He basically calls him a complicit enabler who has stayed silent throughout Kate's abuse for many years.
Also, in 2009, Kate began removing large chunks of money from the joint account. Kate set up a trust fund and made Steve the Trustee. Steve got the promotion when Beth and Bob got kicked to the curb.
Isn't that fortuitous for him? Seems that he was the only man left standing after Kate carpet bombed what was her old life.
Again, quite the catbird seat he inherited. Or, did he engineer it, having won Kate's trust, ear and favor above all others?
Yeah, I think that man is without scruples.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 15
"This shows an extreme trust in their relationship," explains estate attorney Ross L. Schiller, who doesn't advise the Gosselins.
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I get that this is a talking head who is just making a statement and doesn't really have the kind of knowledge that those of us following it do, but, no, just no.
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Try extreme seduction.
Anonymous, in no way did I suggest police reports are "transcripts" of what was said, so I haven't the first clue what you are talking about.
However, police are not going to be more specific than their witness is being, nor will they be more vague than their subject is being. They'll report things as said, as vague or as specific as the subject will be.
They reported Kate's statements vaguely and I believe that was because Kate herself was being vague. The best police officers would pry further and ask her exactly what she meant by things she said. Either that didn't happen or if it did, it didn't make the police report. Neither is good. It was not the best police report I've ever seen, especially with the obvious mistake in custody. At the same time, maybe they didn't give a crap at a certain point, knowing she is a nut and that this is all nonsense.
It seems strange to me that all of this has come out just before her show is (supposedly) scheduled to return. Someone is doing great work to drum up interest. smh
That's what I don't understand. Kate's not longer the tabloid queen she once was
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Right now she's the Wicked Witch of the West in the tabloids, but she doesn't seem to be melting away.
I think the People cover was designed to do that--especially the revelations about Collin---but that was when she thought she'd be back in October. I don't think what's coming out now is from her PR, it makes her look like an out-of-control, vengeful maniac. I doubt Jon has anything to do with it either. I think it really may have just been a line tossed in the water with an FOIA request attached, and InTouch caught something they thought was worth publishing. That they've strung out a 2-page story in their magazine to 4 or 5 online stories already is ridiculous, but I'm wonderinf if they've got more to come. They point out they have a copy of the 2009 trust---will they be publishing more excerpts from that? What else might they have? Transcripts of court appearances?
Tucker's, I had forgotten what Hoffman had to say about Steve. Yeah he's clearly some kind of 21st-century Svengali for Katie. When she described what she was looking for in her next husband, and it just happened to be a pretty exact description of him, it was clear what her feelings were. His sediments remain a mystery to me, but there's no question he's at least motivated by money.
PatK (20), my comment at 22 was replying to you. Oops.
I really don't think there's any motivation behind the stories other than someone got some really juicy information when they got it. No one seems to know the air date even Kate (lol, doofus) it's become an I'll believe it when I see it thing so I really don't think anyone is trying to tie this to any air dates.
So, TLC is going to be showing Little People, Big World ( very popular) at 8, Outdaughterd (less popular) at 9, and K+8 (least popular) at 10. They are trying to turn Tuesday's into big viewing nights, but that might backfire for K+8. LPBW is a strong lead- in for the following show, and benefits the show following it. It will most likely be a big boost for the ratings for Outdaughtered. But then viewers would also have to sit through Outdaughtered to get to K+8, and since Outdaughtered is less popular, it won't give K+8 as big a boost as LPBW would have. How many people want to sit through that many shows on a weeknight? I can't wait to see how the ratings turn out. I went back and looked, and it's interesting to see that the highest rated show of last season got about the same number of viewers as the lowest rated episode of the season before it. And there was that creative new way of calculating ratings that gave the show a temporary boost in numbers. I think this season is going to be verryyyy interesting to track. Maybe I'll make a graph.
I think it's possible that after the story about Collin came out, InTouch, which originally reported the Hannah story last, decided to submit a FOIA requests for those police reports. They may have thought that those reports could possibly provide more info on what was going on with Collin.
You took her to task for using specific words...words you don't even know the used since the police report is not quoting her directly. If you want to rant about language you created in your own head, be my guest.
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I can't believe you're suggesting the police reporting of what she said was somehow not accurate. Can you please cut our wonderful police force a break? They have been through a whole lot of garbage in the past couple years. They don't need random anonymous posters accusing them of not reporting what Kate said accurately. It's really inappropriate, and frankly, disrespectful, not to mention without any basis. You have no reason, none, to think they did not report what she told to them exactly the way she said it.
If any police or friends and family of police are here, please disregard these implications. Ridiculous. You do a wonderful job.
TLC's twitter account also mentioned the premiere dates for both LPBW and Outdaughtered.
TLC Network @TLC · Oct 19
The babies are on the move! Watch the new season of #OutDaughtered on November 15 at 9/8c 👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼 👧🏻 http://TLC.com/OutDaughtered
TLC Network @TLC · Oct 22
RT if you can't wait for the return of #LPBW on Tuesday, November 22 at 8/7c! http://bit.ly/2eue2Gr
But still nothing about Kate plus 8 returning. You'd think if the show was coming back Nov. 22 they would have mentioned it by now. Either it's not airing in November, or they just don't want to be bother promoting it.
But still nothing about Kate plus 8 returning. You'd think if the show was coming back Nov. 22 they would have mentioned it by now. Either it's not airing in November, or they just don't want to be bother promoting it.
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It makes no sense. I'm the one who wrote TLC and received the reply about the Nov. 22 date so obviously they see it on their schedule, but I wonder what their reasoning is for not announcing it's return like they're doing with their other shows. The only thing I can think of is that they're only using her show as filler (as we've thought was the case for a long time) and they don't want to publicize it until they're sure they don't have anything better to put in the slot. If that's the case though, why would they be allowing their Viewer Relations dept. to see it on the schedule and tell viewers about it. If I were a fan I'd be upset about the situation, but since I prefer that it never returns, I simply don't care. I do hope, however that they advertise the heck out of the other shows and leave TFW's unmentioned. (Is it mean to say that? LOL Oh heck, it's TFW, IDC)
Sherri said... 29
It makes no sense. I'm the one who wrote TLC and received the reply about the Nov. 22 date so obviously they see it on their schedule. . . .
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Did they say they were airing new episodes? Did they use the words premiere or debut? Maybe they're just planning to air reruns of old episodes at 1 a.m.
Layla said... 25
I read somewhere that one of the big storylines on LPBW this time around is Amy dating. Will she be any more tolerable at that than Kate? All of these shows are so played, they really need to go.
KIAT (#28), wow, TFW's position as TLC's side piece seems to be confirmed by their lack of interest in promoting her new episodes.
Perhaps TLC should try a different tactic:
"RT if you don't give a rat's butt about the return of the shrew! #K+8#WhoCares#Yawn
Did they say they were airing new episodes? Did they use the words premiere or debut? Maybe they're just planning to air reruns of old episodes at 1 a.m.
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They weren't specific at all in their reply:
"Dear Viewer,
Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your interest in our programming. Kate Plus 8 is scheduled to air on November 22, 2016."
I agree, they could be airing old reruns at 1am on the 22nd.
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Sherri said... 29
It makes no sense. I'm the one who wrote TLC and received the reply about the Nov. 22 date so obviously they see it on their schedule. . . .
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Did they say they were airing new episodes? Did they use the words premiere or debut? Maybe they're just planning to air reruns of old episodes at 1 a.m.
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Sad, but true, your posting name is SO ironic on this post.
Poor Gladys will not be able to watch the possible 1 a.m. long awaited, with bated breath, showing of a Kate Plus 8 Tragic Circus S*** Show!
Once she eats that ice cream and lights out man turns off the lights at 11 p.m., nature will take it course. She will be asleep.
Sad, but true!
Question: Could not Jon file suit against Kate in small claims court to recoup the cost of his attorney to fight her false police reports? And isn't it against the law to file false police reports in PA?
They weren't specific at all in their reply:
"Dear Viewer,
Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your interest in our programming. Kate Plus 8 is scheduled to air on November 22, 2016."
I agree, they could be airing old reruns at 1am on the 22nd.
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This almost sounds like an automated response, or just the intern copying and pasting. They're not sitting there in the programming meetings with the real decision makers to know what's really going on. They probably just googled the internal program schedule and there it was. Old or new they didn't care to look. They may have no idea the air date has bounced around so much.
Admin, (16). This week's Monday and Tuesday episodes of Dr. Phil featured a mom who is doing everything crazy thing she can to upend the life of the father of her child. (She is rather a nutcase!)
The dad has won custody. The court documents that Dr. Phil referenced speak harshly of the mom. Dr. Phil actually lost his patience with the woman. The live audience laughed at some of the mother's accusations. The mom basically refused all help.
Their case is heard in New York and North Carolina.
When I searched Kate Plus 8 under 'Schedule' on tlc.com, it says "This show is not currently on the schedule" But Outdaughered is. Next showing for them is early Nov.
Dmasy...I watched that lady, she was unreal! But it goes to show how crazy & delusional people can be to their ex's.
According to the TLC Website, Kate + 8 is currently not on the schedule. Maybe all this filming Kate is doing is on her own w/o TLC - perhaps straight to You-Tube?
Kate + 8 Schedule
I do not watch TLC, so are they showing any of her reruns currently? If not, then Nov. 22 could be a rerun airing. They are not promoting a new season for her on their web page.
Kris (#38), thanks for the info. The plot thickens! Maybe we need Gladys to hound TFW to "set the record straight."
Raven-Symone just announced she's leaving The View. Pack your bags, Katie -- one of the chairs of your dreams is vacant!
Maybe all this filming Kate is doing is on her own w/o TLC - perhaps straight to You-Tube?
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Or an overseas dumping lol. I love when they do that.
Admin (#44), hey, that's a good episode idea: "Dumpings and Disappointments" -- Chaotic fun ensues when Kate Gosselin
and her 7 or 8 children try to find their latest episode on TV, only to find they'll need passports to go watch it.
When I do a TLC search it gives premiere dates w NEW SEASON for LPBW and Outdaughtered. A search for K plus 8 ...nothing. Just one old episode on demand available to view.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 45
Admin (#44), hey, that's a good episode idea: "Dumpings and Disappointments" -- Chaotic fun ensues when Kate Gosselin
and her 7 or 8 children try to find their latest episode on TV, only to find they'll need passports to go watch it.
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Maybe she could make Dumplings!
Dumpings, Dumplings and Disappointments
We all know how she loves to cook and all.
Cook up schemes.
Question: Could not Jon file suit against Kate in small claims court to recoup the cost of his attorney to fight her false police reports? And isn't it against the law to file false police reports in PA?
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From what I have read, she suspected he was selling drugs and suspected an inappropriate relationship. I'm not sure that's actually claiming he did those things, only that she thought it was possible. That's really not a false police report, is it?
From what I have read, she suspected he was selling drugs and suspected an inappropriate relationship
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And what's what I was saying, she know exactly what she's doing. She knows how to say just enough to be a real "nasty woman" without ever actually getting in trouble for it.
She's a coward.
If she were a grown up, she would own her accusations, and be clear about them, and state them without shame. Otherwise, STFU.
If Kate was a grown up, there wouldn't be any police reports at all. She would have found a way from the divorce to deal with the fact that she married Jon and had children. She has responsibility for that. She would figure out how to do custody and let the kids see their dad. Millions of people make it work. Instead she stamps her feet like a two year old saying "I want it my way!"
I think the police did their best to report what Kate was going on about. Can you imagine her screeching, yelling, flapping her hands, going from accusation to accusation, possibly insulting the cops for not doing exactly what she wants?
Jeanne said... 50
If Kate was a grown up, there wouldn't be any police reports at all. She would have found a way from the divorce to deal with the fact that she married Jon and had children. She has responsibility for that.
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Bingo. Parents have this responsibility when their marriage doesn't work out. It's a travesty for the kids that Kate refuses to mend fences with Jon and co-parent like a responsible adult.
Kate did with the police what she does best- she implies and uses innuendo and lets the listener fill in the blanks.
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Another one, this one focusing on Patsy. Will another lawsuit ensue?
"JonBenet's Mother: Victim or Killer?" airing Nov. 5 on Lifetime follows the network's TV movie "Who Killed JonBenet?" In the second of the two JonBenet specials, viewers will see new interviews with investigators, journalists who followed the case, and friends of Patsy who weigh in on her life before and after her daughter's shocking death."
Right in the middle of Policecallgate, and her conniving and hysterics and not-so-vague accusations, Kate tweets this:
Kate Gosselin
@Kateplusmy8
I’m making dinner&Alexis is reading 2me excerpts from my favorite book of poems..Where The Sidewalk Ends. #CookingAndLaughing #ItsGood2Laugh
6:30 PM - 26 Apr 2015
Such a happy home, cooking, laughing, scheming, yelling in the middle of the street.
That's really a children's poetry book, although very good in a unique way.
When Kate and Jon split up Jon wanted her to go for marriage counseling with him, Kate absolutely refused. She thought she'd already lined up her next husband - Steve. She didn't want to save the marriage. She just wanted to ditch Jon for Steve.
Kate Gosselin
@Kateplusmy8
I’m making dinner&Alexis is reading 2me excerpts from my favorite book of poems..Where The Sidewalk Ends. #CookingAndLaughing #ItsGood2Laugh
6:30 PM - 26 Apr 2015
Oh, geez. Now Gladys will find the book and send Kate poems with her own comments.
Another one, this one focusing on Patsy. Will another lawsuit ensue?
"JonBenet's Mother: Victim or Killer?" airing Nov. 5 on Lifetime follows the network's TV movie "Who Killed JonBenet?" In the second of the two JonBenet specials, viewers will see new interviews with investigators, journalists who followed the case, and friends of Patsy who weigh in on her life before and after her daughter's shocking death."
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I've been meaning to comment about the Real Crime profile folks whom Burke is suing (or saying he is about to sue, forgot if he actually filed). For those not following it, they are former FBI profilers who did a very extensive independent investigation and determined that Burke is the killer, though accidentally, and his parents covered it up. So in the last episode about JonBenet, which aired shortly after the announcement of the lawsuit, I noticed they were very careful to say that their conclusions about Burke were just THEORIES. And that they kind of backed off from it a little bit, not coming in so strong and convicted about him.
Then, after that, the regularly scheduled weekly episode never aired with no explanation. Finally, a new episode aired, and it was super boring and off topic and they talked about what they're all up to, and claimed to be super busy. A "bonus" episode. Not a peep about Burke.
Anyway, point being, I wonder if their lawyers are scared and telling them to back off for the moment while they figure this all out. Yipe! I really like them, even though it's sometimes junk science. Hopefully this will all work out.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
OH NO! Don't tell me you are going to get another October SNOW! #OneOfYourFovoritestThings LOL Check in twiter friend! :) @Kateplusmy8
What in the world is wrong with her? Is she hitting the bottle? Unless it snows at 58 degrees (tomorrow), 75 degrees (Saturday), and 60s and 70s next week, then no, Milo, it is not going to snow.
Oh, geez. Now Gladys will find the book and send Kate poems with her own comments.
That tweet was from a year and a half ago when Kate was in freakout mode. Milo did reply, sent Kate a link to her (Kate's) own blog. LOL
The dad has won custody. The court documents that Dr. Phil referenced speak harshly of the mom. Dr. Phil actually lost his patience with the woman. The live audience laughed at some of the mother's accusations. The mom basically refused all help.
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Goodness. Well this is how people are supposed to react! You don't have to have any understanding of parental alienation to understand that a parent engaging in behavior like that is harming their children. It's amazing Kate's gotten away with what she has.
Goodness. Well this is how people are supposed to react! You don't have to have any understanding of parental alienation to understand that a parent engaging in behavior like that is harming their children. It's amazing Kate's gotten away with what she has.
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I know it's Jon's responsibility to go to the court with his problems with how TFW interferes with his custody, etc, but I'm surprised that their court and/or the specific judge hasn't gotten some heat (or negative press / social media) about the way TFW is manipulating not just the court and their orders, but the police, Jon, the children, etc.
What in the world is wrong with her? Is she hitting the bottle? Unless it snows at 58 degrees (tomorrow), 75 degrees (Saturday), and 60s and 70s next week, then no, Milo, it is not going to snow.
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That's funny. I was just checking out the weekend weather, and thought, good...Indian Summer through next week!
Gladys needs to put down her book of platitudes and live in the real world.
This has been mentioned in the past, but I think it bears repeating. I don't think TFW would ever have gotten away with some of this if she wasn't a pretty, slim, blonde.
Look at how quickly Mama June's fortunes changed. I really think people give TFW the benefit of the doubt way more than she's deserved because of her appearance.
@FlimsyFlamsy Respectfully disagree.I think the reason some people give her the benefit of the doubt is because of the same fact,that her fans love to repeat,which is that she has 8 kids and is a single mom.Some people sadly still think if you have that many kids that you have no right to judge her unless you walked in her shoes.If God forbid something similar happen to one of Kate's kids like with June's daughter or something similar with the duggars,something tells me TLC would be quick to kick her.Lets face it,i've herd stories about some TLC staff who stopped working with her and went to work with the duggars because of her treatment of the kids and because of Kate's behavior.Plus unlike the duggars,its not like she's bringing alot more viewers then them,if so then she'd be on the air alot more but so far nothing.I would see no reason for TLC to keep her if (like i said)God forbid something happen to one the kids like with June's.
Wouldn't you think that Milo would know how to Google Accuweather and type in Kate's location? Is she/he really that dumb, or was she just wanting a response from Kate?
Milo doesn't know how to read weather maps. It's New York and central New England that are due to get the snow. You would think that she knows where Kate lives. Doofus.
Apologizes for a typo in previous stupid tweet, corrects it and goes on to post the same stupid tweet a second time? WTF is wrong with this person? Hey Milo, Kate's got some big problems right now and I don't think you're helping.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago
Getting in late...pretty obvious my sight is not where it needs to be just yet. Sorry for misspelled words earlier! @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago
OH NO! Don't tell me you are going to get another October SNOW! #OneOfYourFavoritestThings LOL Check in twitter friend! :) @Kateplusmy8
Tucker's Mom said... 51
Jeanne said... 50
If Kate was a grown up, there wouldn't be any police reports at all. She would have found a way from the divorce to deal with the fact that she married Jon and had children. She has responsibility for that.
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Bingo. Parents have this responsibility when their marriage doesn't work out. It's a travesty for the kids that Kate refuses to mend fences with Jon and co-parent like a responsible adult.
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It's almost sweet, in a aww look at that puppy that's so dull it's scared of it's tail way, that Jon ever thought co-parenting with this nutter could work.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 64
This has been mentioned in the past, but I think it bears repeating. I don't think TFW would ever have gotten away with some of this if she wasn't a pretty, slim, blonde.
Look at how quickly Mama June's fortunes changed. I really think people give TFW the benefit of the doubt way more than she's deserved because of her appearance.
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I cannot agree to strenuously with this. If Khate had been an overweight, pimply, manish woman people would have cottoned on to her psychopathy much, much sooner.
Look at how quickly Mama June's fortunes changed. I really think people give TFW the benefit of the doubt way more than she's deserved because of her appearance.
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No doubt.
Certainly, June allegedly having a relationship with a pedophile boyfriend is salacious, but as the sheeple say, hey, if she really did, wouldn't CPS have been involved and taken her kids away?
Also, the G kids are cuter than Alana, sorry to be blunt. But, Alana was growing up, getting nasty and heavier, and I think the appeal of this cute little pageant girl was over anyway.
TLC's problem with Kate is that it's become very, very hard to ignore Kate's mental and emotional state and the very sad situation her kids, as Kate has cast away almost everyone from their lives and is destroying their relationship with their father.
Jamesvader1194 said... 65
@FlimsyFlamsy Respectfully disagree.I think the reason some people give her the benefit of the doubt is because of the same fact,that her fans love to repeat,which is that she has 8 kids and is a single mom
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That's another reason, but if Kate looked like Mama June, I think their tolerance for Kate's disgusting antics would be far less.
I think many people identify with Kate and her nasty, man-hating nature, and root for her.
It's almost sweet, in a aww look at that puppy that's so dull it's scared of it's tail way, that Jon ever thought co-parenting with this nutter could work.
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Ha! I think Jon assumed a lot of things way back then.
Like sharing custody at the house. I thought that was an awful idea and it quickly went bad.
Like thinking he could shut down filming. I think that's when Kate went nuclear and decided to destroy him.
Like thinking he could act like a pimple-face, perma-boned teenager, flit about the world and spend money like a Babylonian king. That really damaged the good will he had with the public.
Anyhoo, not to beat Jon up on the past, but the dumb puppy analogy is too funny!
Look at how quickly Mama June's fortunes changed. I really think people give TFW the benefit of the doubt way more than she's deserved because of her appearance.
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June has been trying to get back into the spotlight ever since, and has changed her appearance drastically.
To further the point about looks, do you think TLC would have given Jill and Jessa their own show (and tried to bring back the whole Duggar clan) if those two young women weren't very pretty?
Look at all of ththe stunts that she has pulled over the years and they cancelled her a couple of years ago and then they stupidly revived her again and now with all of these terrible things that have come out that happened a year and a half ago, they seem to not want to air anything.
But, is she still under a contract? Is she going rouge and filming herself for YouTube? Will TLC show Kate Plus 8 on Nov. 22nd? Will Colin be on the show?
So many unanswered questions.
You have to understand that TFW had TLC's legal pit bulls at her disposal for years! This gave her an enormous narc high of doing and saying whatever she wanted without being held accountable for it.
The Alaska trip is a perfect example. Mady didn't want to go. Jon was going to get her, she threatened to call the police if he showed up. Then in Alaska, Mady didn't want to pose with the family by the river. There was TFW, had grabbed Mady hard and hurt her arm. Mady was crying and looked in pain in the picture. TFW's face was grinning ear to ear.
It upset Palins camp so bad that they threatened to call the police. THEN TLC got involved. BIg wigs got on a private jet and flew to Alaska to smooth things over. It was then decided that the Gosselins would leave.
I am so proud of Mr. Palin saying what he did. It was the truth.
I think TLC is finally tired of carrying around a mop and a bucket and having to mop up her messes that she makes. Her messes now are requiring a bigger mop and bucket.
GollyGee (#77), TFW sure was living the high life for a good long while, wasn't she? She really has had an amazing run in the public eye, considering her absolute lack of talent or skill in any area, as well as her charm-free demeanor. I freely admit I never, ever would have predicted we'd all still be around talking about her, but here we are.
But I'll say it again -- she has sabotaged so many opportunities for greater success that can never be quantified. Imagine how her "brand" could have branched out -- a talk show, cooking or lifestyle show, a line of cookware. She could've pumped out books about anything from single mom concerns to crafts for kids. How about a line of yoga clothes or running gear for moms? Paid public speaking gigs around the world to talk about her unique story? But her toxic personality and mediocre work ethic have kept her at a certain level of celebrity (D list) which I don't think she's capable of rising from. With some genuine hustle and good will, she could've made so much money in the last 5 years that she would've laughed at the paltry pay from 5 or 6 episodes from TLC. So much potential squandered, and she has only herself to blame.
Well said FlimsyFlamsy @78 - all the things you mention could have been achieved without invading the privacy of the children.
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Anonymous said... 79
Well said FlimsyFlamsy @78 - all the things you mention could have been achieved without invading the privacy of the children.
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Good post, Flimsy! Yes, anon/bm she could of just had really higher paying jobs after just a year or two after filming with the kids, IF, she would of been a nice, hard working, humble person. It would of been great for her to ditch the tv show, filming the kids for much more money instead of chump change with TLC.
The way she acted with trying out with Paula Deen and that show, the way she balked at having to meet a couple of fans in the silver dress at the grove, how she did at Coupon Cabin. Sigh.
She just continued her path of filming destruction with making her kids her chumps to continue to keep her in the lifestyle those babies and now teenagers have given her on a silver platter.
There will be a reckoning day when they all realize it. Hannah's realization is nothing compared to what is coming.
God have mercy on those kids!
Kate has those poor kids totally dominated. Why isn't Alexis reading from HER favorite book of poems rather than Kate's? Sounds like Alexis is doing whatever is necessary to appease Kate and Kate is too sociopathic to even realize it.
MikeB (#81), I'm so glad you made that point. I was thinking something similar.
It's like TFW is so generous to be making dinner (remember how she bragged about staggering out of bed with a broken toe to cook for them?) that she deserves some sort of entertainment while she's doing it! What an actual concerned, involved mother might do is use that time to chat with her kids. Ask about THEIR day. Ask about THEIR feelings. Ask about THEIR friends. And of course, it's not to say she doesn't ever do that. But the way she talks about the dynamics of her household makes me think these children are parentified more than we ever imagined.
The point I was trying to make when I posted that tweet yesterday about Kate cooking while Alexis read her poetry was actually to point out that, while Kate was in the middle of an all-out rage, going to Jon's, yelling for Hannah, calling the police, making outrageous accusations of suspicious behavior, selling drugs, kidnapping and a hostage situation involving a gun, she's tweeting about cooking dinner and listening to poetry read to her by one of her adoring children - "cooking and laughing" like they exist in some 50s happy family television show. I'm pretty sure that wasn't a lot of laughing going on during that period of time.
Remember when TFW said she instituted "silent dinner?" If the kids are gone all day, and don't talk during dinner, and have homework to do, and then go to bed, when does she communicate with them during the school week?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 78
GollyGee (#77), TFW sure was living the high life for a good long while, wasn't she? She really has had an amazing run in the public eye, considering her absolute lack of talent or skill in any area, as well as her charm-free demeanor. I freely admit I never, ever would have predicted we'd all still be around talking about her, but here we are.
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LOL! I don't find Kate charming on any level. Never have. At first, Kate acted demurring, but I've come to know that was just an act by a woman who clearly knows how to work people and systems.
Hey Milo, Kate's got some big problems right now and I don't think you're helping.
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And snow isn't one of those problems!
I think Milo listened to TWC report, heard "northeast snow" and her mind immediately went to Kate, as always. She doesn't seem to know exactly where Kate lives, which is in the Mid-Atlantic States region. Her lack of geographical knowledge has always been a problem for her, especially when it comes to the weather. Maybe a crash course in the location of the Eastern Seaboard would help her tremendously. After all, as Kate's Chief Executive, she needs to know these weather forecasts in order to warn Kate of impending doom.
But I'll say it again -- she has sabotaged so many opportunities for greater success that can never be quantified. Imagine how her "brand" could have branched out -- a talk show, cooking or lifestyle show, a line of cookware
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Rachel Ray has gone from launching her own cookware line (starting with her oval pasta pot creation) to her own furniture line. She's not a spokesperson or hired shill to put her face on someone else's product. She has her very own line.
I find that astonishing and for Kate to have nothing going for her in the same 10-year span of time is a bit of shame- to not have built a respectable brand that's perennial.
But the way she talks about the dynamics of her household makes me think these children are parentified more than we ever imagined.
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I think the kids have had to vie for attention and curry favor all their lives. Except Mady; at this point, Kate's her bitch.
Flimsy Flamsy - great point about her looks. I think that's why she glammed herself up and lost weight.
I agree that the attraction is single mom/8 kids. But it's THIN, WHITE, BLONDE,BLUE EYED, single mom with 8 kids.
If she'd been a different ethnicity I don't think TLC would have backed her so heavily. If she'd been anything other than white she would have been dumped long ago. JMO.
I've always been astounded at how much TFW thinks that she can just go in and wing it on her charm. Thinking that there's absolutely NO reason why she, the great TFW, should have to put any work whatsoever into preparing for whatever it is. C'mon! She's a single mom of 8!!!!!! That should count for something, shouldn't it?
And then gets pissed off when it doesn't work out. Here she is, giving them her time and charm, and they don't even give her the job! They give it to someone who has done their homework and has expertise in the field. Everyone plots against her. Poor single mom of 8.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 82
MikeB (#81), I'm so glad you made that point. I was thinking something similar.
It's like TFW is so generous to be making dinner (remember how she bragged about staggering out of bed with a broken toe to cook for them?) that she deserves some sort of entertainment while she's doing it! What an actual concerned, involved mother might do is use that time to chat with her kids. Ask about THEIR day. Ask about THEIR feelings. Ask about THEIR friends. And of course, it's not to say she doesn't ever do that. But the way she talks about the dynamics of her household makes me think these children are parentified more than we ever imagined.
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But, but, but, Flimsy! Remember when she was telling the. That she got up with her BROKEN FOOT to fix them breakfast and the kids started screeching, BROKEN TOE, BROKEN TOE!!!!
Remember when she posted the x-ray and it was a broken toe, but the wrong foot.
She was busted. She is such a narc that she thinks the public will believe HER over the children. Especially, Gladys.
There was a girl at work who said she had sprained her ankle and said that the doctor ordered her to wear a walking cast. That put her on light duty and she loved it.
After several months, one morning she walked in and had the walking cast boot on the wrong foot!!
I think she got another job and left after that. She had 6 children by 6 different men and didn't even have custody of one of her children.
Then in Alaska, Mady didn't want to pose with the family by the river. There was TFW, had grabbed Mady hard and hurt her arm. Mady was crying and looked in pain in the picture. TFW's face was grinning ear to ear.
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Is that what Mady was upset about? She didn't want to pose by the river? I didn't know that. Geez Kate, you're such a loser...
I find that astonishing and for Kate to have nothing going for her in the same 10-year span of time is a bit of shame- to not have built a respectable brand that's perennial.
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She's burned too many bridges and has had too many failures. She wasn't smart enough to see that you don't go around biting hands that might be of benefit to you at some point. Nothing, other than the show, has seemed to work out for her. It's always amazed me that the sheeple just can't understand why she gets so much negative tabloid press. She's not a nice person, and as such, who would want to work with a shrew (other than TLC and her rode manager)?
I do think, though, that recently some of the fans have seen the light.
Well, Milo, my mowing guy just finished cutting my grass. Of course, he had to plow through a foot of snow in order to do it! ;-) Tomorrow a balmy 75 degrees! Yes! I love it!
Has anyone heard anything from Auntie? The last time she commented here she was looking for a pork roast in her freezer. I hope she's okay. I miss my drinking partner!
Tucker's Mom (75) Maybe,however if something (heaven forbid) similar happen to the gosselin kids.Like for example,steve did something bad to one of the gosselin girls,Kate will throw him under the bus and play dumb by claiming she had no idea he was like that,despite the fact that she knew steve for so many years.I don't know if TLC will defend her,however i seen a comment by a crazy Kate supporter that said that it would be Jon's fault if something bad happened to one of his children.I don't think Kate's show would be a huge lost though since she's already hated by most people.IF however it happen during the Jon and Kate glory days however,i feel they would try to paint both parents as victims.
I'm watching A Haunting on TLC, and guess what they are advertising? A new "People Magazine" show! Isn't that interesting, considering that they have always been in each other's back pockets. Also some new treasure hunting show, two ads (within a 30-minute span) for the new season of Outdaughtered, but no sign of K+8.
PA Dutch Mom (#94), aw, I miss Auntie, too,
and think of her often.
Remember when she posted the x-ray and it was a broken toe, but the wrong foot.
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It was the wrong foot? I don't remember that. Nothing would surprise me, though.
I think Kate posted an image of a broken toe off the internet. It was rather sad that she trotted that out. I mean, why?
A People Magazine show on TLC? Oy. No wonder they're kissing every TLC star's ass.
Tucker's Mom,
Yep, People Magazine got their own show. It's called People Magazine Investigates. Three ads in an hour. Then there is a new show called Treasure Quest (two ads in an hour), and Outdaughtered got 4 ads. Also 3 ads for 90-Day Fiance and two for Duggars. No mention of Kate plus 8. I wonder if that November 22 date is accurate.They're promoting the heck out of everything else.
Layla said... 96
I'm watching A Haunting on TLC, and guess what they are advertising? A new "People Magazine" show!
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I wonder if Kate Coyne will be the host! That ought to guarantee Katie G at least a little more air time. Speaking of Coyne, her book sales have been abysmal---not K8 cookbook abysmal, but pretty awful for a celeb-focused memoir by a long-term People mag flack. I don't see any more books in her future.
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Layla said... 96
I'm watching A Haunting on TLC, and guess what they are advertising? A new "People Magazine" show!
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I'm watching it, too. This area is rich in hex, folklore and hauntings. Kindred Spirits is next. I like Amy and Adam.
I'll watch a paranormal show, but I really don't like the ones that have demonic possessions. We have a ghost here (or at least spirit energy) but it's a friendly soul and we live in peaceful co-existence. He came with the house at no extra charge.
Maybe too much Rumspringa?
PA Dutch Mom,
We had a ghost many years ago when we lived in an historic house. She was a friendly sort, so we co-existed peacefully. We named her Elizabeth. I kind of miss her--she added a lot of character to our home, and made for a great story (even though, after spotting her late one night, my brother-in-law refused to ever be in our house after dark again--the wuss).
I saw on one of the Outdaughtered ads they showed one of the babies in the hospital, with someone putting an oxygen mask on her. What is wrong with reality TV parents? A medical crisis is not a filming opportunity. Why is it that as soon as cameras come around, all of the parents' concern for their children's privacy disappears?
If ignorance is bliss then these church ladies are the happiest people on earth.
BARBIE J. TRUMP
@barbiejeansayre
Just HERD #HillaryClinton arrested for EMAILS amen amen my TRUMP wins again see ya SIS have fun in you're jump suit LMBO
hen these church ladies are the happiest people on earth.
BARBIE J. TRUMP
@barbiejeansayre
Just HERD #HillaryClinton arrested for EMAILS amen amen my TRUMP wins again see ya SIS have fun in you're jump suit LMBO
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That lot really does tickle the funny bone. Today's headlines were huge, and alarming, but how on earth do you interpret "Hillary sent to jail" out of them? LOL.
Huge news out of PA. Mike McQueary won a whopping 7 million dollar lawsuit against the college for defaming him.
There were a couple folks around here back around that time who were adamant he was the bad guy. In the end, McQueary came out victorious. I've aways felt he did the best he could against tremendous odds, was never given any support or reassurance while always sticking to the truth of his story, and I hope he sees every cent of that money and does some good with it. Some of the jurors are speaking and it's clear they put tremendous thought into this verdict. Well done, PA.
I saw on one of the Outdaughtered ads they showed one of the babies in the hospital, with someone putting an oxygen mask on her. What is wrong with reality TV parents? A medical crisis is not a filming opportunity.
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I've seen parents snapping pictures of their child BEING RESUSCITATED and immediately uploading them to FB. Nothing surprises me anymore. I try not to be judgemental but it's tough because if my kid's heart stopped beating, snapping a picture(much less instantly uploading it on a social media platform) wouldn't even cross my mind. I'd be busy being petrified that my child's heart is..you know NOT BEATING.
Some of the jurors are speaking and it's clear they put tremendous thought into this verdict. Well done, PA.
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I did see that and was going to post about it. I remember a lot of great discussion here about his case in relationship to the Sandusky scandal at Penn State. IIRC there was a good deal of talk about work culture and why someone who's immersed in such a strong environment might not blurt out, "Call 911!!" and go directly to the police.
McQueary was never the bad guy. In fact, he was eventually instrumental in breaking that horrible code of silence that Joe Paterno fostered in his football-frenzied institution.
Maybe it's because I'm from PA that I can say that Penn State is football, and football is Penn State.
It was a monolithic program that dominated through proud generations of locals and alumni who bled blue.
Just HERD #HillaryClinton arrested for EMAILS amen amen my TRUMP wins again see ya SIS have fun in you're jump suit LMBO
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Hold yer horses there, church ladies! Not quite!
Although, the announcement coming on Friday afternoon shortly before close of business will leave a lot of people speculating wildly all weekend long.
I'm going to relax with some Rumspringa ;-)
Actually, a cocktail and a little wine. DH and I are having a small dinner party tonight and I think I'll enjoy some libations and not worry about the election until Monday.
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Yes. She didn't want to pose with the family and TFW flipped out and grabbed her and hurt her arm. TLC sent a private jet all the way to Alaska to fix the problem.
TFW can't have a child not pose with the family. That is how much a contract-honorer our Katie is!
Excerpt from KG:HSFTW
On another trip, this time to Alaska, Mady couldn’t take it anymore and called Jon the night before, begging him to come and get her and take her back to his apartment.
She absolutely did not want to go away for more filming, and especially not as far away as Alaska. I know this because I went to Kate’s house that night with Jon to pick up Mady, and I heard the discussion between Jon and Kate – through the intercom at the gate.
Kate completely disregarded Jon’s concerns about Mady and blew it off by saying that Mady was just tired and she didn’t mean what she said.
She, of course, managed to insult Jon several times during the exchange. This was at night, in the dark, with no paparazzi watching; it was just a loving father coming to get his unhappy daughter who had called him for help.
Jon told Kate that he would be back in the morning to get Mady, and Kate told him that she would have the police at the house to arrest him if he tried.
Mady went to Alaska. While only a handful of people knew about the drama leading up to the Alaska trip, the family photo that TLC released to the media to promote the episode actually ended up giving away the fact that something was going on with Mady.
Google it and look at the photo closely for yourself. You’ll see a very smiley Kate with all the kids. But if you look at Mady, on the far right, you’ll see how sad and miserable she is.
She’s crying in the publicity photo. That photo is all the proof anyone would ever need to see that she didn’t want to be there.
TLC couldn’t come up with one single publicity “still” where Mady appeared even a little bit happy. Not one. That picture was worth a thousand words.
I found this interesting. From KG:HSFTW
In the recent days, we have been informed there are a lot of lies circulating about us. Just so you know we have worked hard to show you our real life and we have succeeded. Although it is not always easy we will continue to show you the good, the bad and the ugly on our show.
Unfortunately, as with anyone who is on TV there are jealous bystanders, family included, who for whatever reason insist upon telling hurtful untruths. We will continue to love these family members.
We will not retaliate. We will leave it alone out of respect for them. But as a reminder, nothing that you read on the internet or in print is true unless it is approved by us.
Thank you for watching as our family grows and develops. Our children have always been our priority, will continue to be our top priority and quite honestly nothing else matters to us.
(This message has been personally written by Jon and Kate Gosselin)
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Continue to love these family members.
Kate Speak: We will continue to love certain family members that we have kicked to the curb because they didn't know how to help us and love them to STAY AWAY FROM US FOREVER!!
I believe in ghosts but I read an article debunking the reality tv ghost shows and the editing/trickery. They have to show something, right?
I do not believe that Nov. 22 date. That was an automated response reply from TLC and since there is no promotion for Kate Plus 8, it's not happening.
Perhaps the report of her filming is her attempt at a pilot for a cable show like the People Magazine show?
Kate blew so many opportunities and I guess people figured a cute blond mom of 8 was a winner. What was missing? An inquisitive mind and TALENT. The fact that everything TLC has aired over the past few years is a rehash proves she cannot come up with any fresh ideas. Neither can TLC. She is limited to hawking her kids and playing the single RICH mom. I believe plenty of fans have moved on to better shows. Yeah, it's interesting to see how he kids have grown, but it does not warrant a season of nonsense. Do a Christmas special, TLC, if you have to keep trotting them out.
Hold yer horses there, church ladies! Not quite!
Although, the announcement coming on Friday afternoon shortly before close of business will leave a lot of people speculating wildly all weekend long.
I'm going to relax with some Rumspringa ;-)\
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This couldn't be better news for Trump. They're not going to be able to go through the thousands of emails in 11 days. Even if they are benign, they're not going to be able to say that in 11 days. So the speculation and innuendo can continue right through the election.
She must be wanting to strangle Weiner right now! What a dolt!
You know the talking heads predicted that there was going to be one more bombshell just days before the election. I was like no, there's nothing else to say. And then this!
It's been a wild ride but I can't say I haven't enjoyed it. The polling is tight again, pretty much within the margin of error. It's anyone's race and is going to come down to a few key swing states. I wonder if Kate will congratulate your honor if he wins.
I believe she is obsessed with Steve and if the money goes away, so will he, thus filming at any cost, even if it meant faking feelings for another man. After all, she faked her marriage at the end and was prepared to continue the farce for filming. Disappointed that Jeff never addressed Steve's involvement unless that would have triggered him getting sued.
AlaskaGate from KG:HSFTW
On another trip, this time to Alaska, Mady couldn’t take it anymore and called Jon the night before, begging him to come and get her and take her back to his apartment.
She absolutely did not want to go away for more filming, and especially not as far away as Alaska. I know this because I went to Kate’s house that night with Jon to pick up Mady, and I heard the discussion between Jon and Kate – through the intercom at the gate.
Kate completely disregarded Jon’s concerns about Mady and blew it off by saying that Mady was just tired and she didn’t mean what she said.
She, of course, managed to insult Jon several times during the exchange. This was at night, in the dark, with no paparazzi watching; it was just a loving father coming to get his unhappy daughter who had called him for help.
Jon told Kate that he would be back in the morning to get Mady, and Kate told him that she would have the police at the house to arrest him if he tried.
Mady went to Alaska. While only a handful of people knew about the drama leading up to the Alaska trip, the family photo that TLC released to the media to promote the episode actually ended up giving away the fact that something was going on with Mady.
Google it and look at the photo closely for yourself. You’ll see a very smiley Kate with all the kids. But if you look at Mady, on the far right, you’ll see how sad and miserable she is.
She’s crying in the publicity photo. That photo is all the proof anyone would ever need to see that she didn’t want to be there.
TLC couldn’t come up with one single publicity “still” where Mady appeared even a little bit happy. Not one. That picture was worth a thousand words.
I did see that and was going to post about it. I remember a lot of great discussion here about his case in relationship to the Sandusky scandal at Penn State. IIRC there was a good deal of talk about work culture and why someone who's immersed in such a strong environment might not blurt out, "Call 911!!" and go directly to the police.
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The verdict was a nice acknowledgment that this employee was bullied and called a liar and pushed around when he was just trying to tell the truth. He may be due even more money for being fired. He NEVER should have been fired, that's out and out retaliation against a whistleblower. You can't get this picky with HOW employees are disclosing things when it comes to this situation. Especially when there was NO protocol in place for how to handle what he was saying or if there was, it was blatantly disregarded. It's an unclean hands thing, they totally botched it, but then want to blame him for not being perfect? The point is he disclosed it, and it was then on his employer to take the reins. He's probably going to win that one too. I'm glad they're finally picking out those people in the "clean sweep" who never deserved to be there, and giving them justice.
I'm so happy for Penn State they are turning around their season. I *cried* when they beat Ohio State.
GollyGee (#113), TFW continued to love those family members until she decided they didn't know how to help her. Then, alas, it was curb-kickin' time.
So TFW's children are her top priority, and "quite honestly nothing else matters." But judging by her behavior since the divorce, and most notably this latest information about how she's tried to destroy their father, I think the opposite is true -- everything else matters more than they do to her.
RoxyHelen (#108), I share your disbelief at the lengths these people will go for attention.
Respect for their children's privacy is not even in the equation.
Does anyone remember when Ma Duggar filmed her child with her phone after he fell into an orchestra pit? Wouldn't her hands have been put to better use comforting him, or tending one of the other of her 423 children? Nope -- she had to capture it on film. As TFW once said, "Our life is our show and our show is our life." Blech.
I think she got another job and left after that. She had 6 children by 6 different men and didn't even have custody of one of her children
I am overall appalled at the character of CNA's at skilled nursing facilities. So few nurses, and the one's we have encountered with our relatives living out their golden years due to age or sickness is just blows my mind. Anybody watch the HBO series, Getting On? It starred Jackie from Roseanne,Laurie Metcalf. Wonderful show but a good look at the care of the elderly.
Now with my Dad, we have arranged to keep him home in a redesigned rambler with cameras everywhere and a private team.
Vee
Golly Gee (118)
Mady was obviously very upset and crying in that photo. The sheeple claimed she didn't want to stand close to the river because she might get her feet wet. Where did they come up with that? Kate never said it. Then Milo chimed in and said, "Who cares why she was crying?" They did not (and still do not) care even a tiny bit about the kids' well-being or happiness--as long as Kate is getting what she wants.
Check out the family photo of the Gs on the TLC site. Alexis is sitting, arms crossed, scowling. ANother unhappy kid, and Kate, as always, grinning like a goon. She could not care less.
Vee (122) Anybody watch the HBO series, Getting On? It starred Jackie from Roseanne,Laurie Metcalf. Wonderful show but a good look at the care of the elderly.
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"Getting On" was one of the best shows I've seen on television. Darkly humorous and, from what my sister, who's a geriatric nurse tells me, very realistic. I hope it returns. For those who haven't seen it, it's on HBO Go.
I loved Getting On and was sorry to see it end, but it was a great finale!
Disappointed that Jeff never addressed Steve's involvement unless that would have triggered him getting sued.
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I think he just took the high road in that and didn't want to get into the middle of it and point fingers, triggering more tabloid stories. I don't believe he was worried about getting sued.
Layla (#123), I agree that most of the fans, and Gladys in particular, are not truly interested in the welfare of the kids. Look at the deafening silence about C's absence. Gladys has been in puppy overdrive, and hasn't said boo about C being gone. For someone who has asked about everything from what TFW was cooking for dinner, to which child wore their underwear out the fastest, it's interesting that she has not asked question one about C -- is he coming back, does he visit, do they visit him, is he making progress, how are the other kids coping, etc. Of course, none of that is any of her business -- nor is it ours -- but if she honestly cared about that little boy as she professed to when she posted that picture of him, I'd think she would ask about him.
Jane said... 124
Vee (122) Anybody watch the HBO series, Getting On? It starred Jackie from Roseanne,Laurie Metcalf. Wonderful show but a good look at the care of the elderly.
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"Getting On" was one of the best shows I've seen on television. Darkly humorous and, from what my sister, who's a geriatric nurse tells me, very realistic. I hope it returns. For those who haven't seen it, it's on HBO Go.
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We've discussed Getting On before and people in healthcare can really appreciate how realistic it feels.
The actors who played the patients were SO authentic. They really were those old people in the beds, God bless them!
One of the best tv shows I've ever seen.
You might also like Call The Midwife and Where The Heart Is.
Anyone watching WestWorld? We watched the pilot and it's very dark, but interesting. I never watched the original.
Billy Bob Thornton in Goliath was excellent. Another great performance. Weird-ass dude, but he can act.
Another British comedy I loved is Boomers.
I'm getting to know all the familiar British faces at this point!
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Layla (#123), I agree that most of the fans, and Gladys in particular, are not truly interested in the welfare of the kids
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The sheep care that the kids stay on their tv sets. That's it. They want those kids producing episodes so that they can view new stuff that they haven't seen yet.
I don't understand why they don't get what exactly it is they're demanding.
She must be wanting to strangle Weiner right now! What a dolt!
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It will be stunning if the presidential election comes down to Carlos Danger and his "junk".
This is surreal.
Yeah, it's interesting to see how he kids have grown, but it does not warrant a season of nonsense. Do a Christmas special, TLC, if you have to keep trotting them out.
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Amen. Look at the McCaugheys. The kids do media every few years for milestones like H.S. graduation. Otherwise, most folks couldn't pick any one of them out of a line up.
Any Halloween mention from TFW?
@Layla Maybe its just me,but speaking of photos,am i the only one who notices how on the TLC kate plus 8 page,they've haven't be uploading alot of the travel photos like back then?The last time they uploaded new travel photos was from the New England episode,which was in January of last year.No travel photos since then.I wonder why they stopped doing that.
For someone who has asked about everything from what TFW was cooking for dinner, to which child wore their underwear out the fastest, it's interesting that she has not asked question one about C -- is he coming back, does he visit, do they visit him, is he making progress, how are the other kids coping, etc.
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It's possible she's afraid to ask because it will open Kate up to all the negative comments about sending him away. Gladys is pretending it didn't happen.
Moreover, don't you know that they have this very special bond and communicate in so many ways?Gladys, in her own little fantasy world, most likely believes that Kate has been keeping her up to date on Collin and his whereabouts.
Any Halloween mention from TFW?
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Wanna bet it's the dogs in costumes this year?
I think he just took the high road in that and didn't want to get into the middle of it and point fingers, triggering more tabloid stories. I don't believe he was worried about getting sued.
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Yeah, except he has trashed Kate in the tabloids. He could have just kept his mouth shut.
Milo doesn't bring up Colin because she deflecting. She's just taking cues from Kate. If Kate brought up Colin, Milo would be the Town Crier, ringing her bell in the square, attributing any positive news to Kate the Great.
Any info. from locals that corroborates the corn maze and filming with Colin sighting?
I wonder if Colin is home or gets to visit.
Check out the family photo of the Gs on the TLC site. Alexis is sitting, arms crossed, scowling. Another unhappy kid, and Kate, as always, grinning like a goon. She could not care less.
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I personally thought that was "staged" and not real. But maybe I'm wrong.
Any Halloween mention from TFW?
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Wanna bet it's the dogs in costumes this year?
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Oh, geez. I hope Milo doesn't trot out those photos of the dogs in fishnet stockings or pantyhose or whatever it was.
OMG when does it end?
But check out this video
Dark Secrets The Gosselin Family Tried To Hide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9DtCcPFA_U
Dark Secrets The Gosselin Family Tried To Hide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9DtCcPFA_U
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I wonder who put that together. It's quite professional.
But, yawn. Same old awful stuff.
FlimsyFlamsy
Does anyone remember when Ma Duggar filmed her child with her phone after he fell into an orchestra pit?
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Vividly. I also remember the Duggars bringing an entire filming crew in the NICU room, to film their over 3 months premature, struggling to live, daughter.
So the Busbys are getting a new season but the Gardners are still ignored? God, that must be killing Ashley and Tyson. They want to be the next J&K+8 type of hit show sooo badly.
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Layla, have you watched Hell House on ID? It's really quite interesting with true stories of estates and their tragic pasts, murders, suicides, spirits and such. You get a little bit about the history of an area. You are welcome to send your Elizabeth here to keep my ghost company. He's a Civil War soldier, so I hope they would be compatible. It would keep him busy for a while and out of my hair and car.
Welp, as the West Virginia women say...I must go soak in a hot bath because my back is killing me after all the shoveling. We lost all of our driveway trees in this Halloween storm. They are saying it's a rare occurrence in 72 degree weather.
At least I got my pig stomach ready for the oven tomorrow. I know you all are just dying for the recipe, so here is the one I use:
1 pig stomach (hog maw)
2 pounds sausage
4 large potatoes, cut into chunks
4 carrots cut into chunks
4 Tbsp fresh parsley
1 large chopped onion
1 medium head cabbage, chopped
Rinse the pig stomach and pat it dry. Put all of the vegetables into a bowl and toss. Remove the casing from the sausage and crumble it, or use fresh ground sausage. Add to the vegetables and mix well.
Stuff the stomach with the mixture, and using a needle and thread, tie up the stomach.
Bake at 350 degrees for two hours until it's brown. I usually put a bit of beef or vegetable broth in the bottom of the pan so the stomach doesn't stick. The skin is the best part!
I'm not sure if it freezes well. I know someone will ask! ;-)
Here's a link to an article called "The 100 Greatest Reality-TV Couples Ever, Ranked"
Jon & Kate ranked #4.
"4. Jon & Kate Gosselin (Jon & Kate Plus 8)
When this show about a Pennsylvania couple and their unlikely brood premiered on TLC, it was little more than a curiosity. However, after a very public and acrimonious breakup that the tabloids framed as Jon's midlife crisis, the show's fifth-season premiere attracted almost 10 million viewers. Though the show was later revamped as Kate Plus 8 (after Jon relented and allowed his kids to appear on camera), people were never as curious as when the Gosselin family was falling apart."
http://www.vulture.com/2016/10/reality-tv-couples-ranked.html?mid=twitter_vulture
Tucker's Mom said... 142
A youtuber Nicki Swift who does a lot of reality families they even did Honey-boo-boo and the Duggars.
How and why does someone such as Milo develop such an unhealthy, unnatural obsession with a celebrity, and Kate in particular? Does it begin as just a girl crush and then develop into full-blown lust?
Out of all the female celebrities from which to choose, why Kate?
It will be stunning if the presidential election comes down to Carlos Danger and his "junk".
This is surreal.
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STUNNING.
This has the twist you would find on House of Cards. You can't script this stuff! Can't wait to watch this play out.
When I first saw the headline all I saw was this had something to do with Anthony Weiner. I was like, huh? HOW? Is this a parody? LOL.
When I first saw the headline all I saw was this had something to do with Anthony Weiner. I was like, huh? HOW? Is this a parody? LOL.
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From WikiLeaks to DickyLeaks ;-)
With that, I bid you g'night all.
I don't believe the sighting of Colin and siblings in a pumpkin patch. Colin has shown he doesn't know how to help her. I truly don't expect he will ever come home. She must be unhappy the People story about him didn't get her any sympathy. When he was home he needed lots of special attention. Kate doesn't do special attention unless it's applied to her.
The Marine Core Marathon runners just took off this morning. I wonder if Kate is somewhere in there. It's right in Steve's neck of the woods where she seems to be a whole lot anyway.
Oh, who am I kidding. Running doesn't know how to help Kate anymore ;-)
Tucker's Mom (#152), thanks for that bit of nostalgia. Remember when she was a running mama? Couponing, blogging, dancing, yoga, writing...so many personas she tried to adopt. Yet she still tries to convince everyone of the most outlandish and unbelievable persona of them all --
that she's a great mother.
You know,seeing Milo and Goody police Kate's twitter and once again blaming the haters for the reason Kate's not on twitter anymore,i have to wonder.If TLC cancelled Kate are they going to blame haters and say they harass Kate to the point TLC had to cancel?You know there will be some kind of excuse from these two.In fact,question for the ones who've been here since 2011,im curious as to who or what the fans blamed for TLC cancelling Kate?
Jamesvader1194 said... 154
. . . In fact,question for the ones who've been here since 2011,im curious as to who or what the fans blamed for TLC cancelling Kate?
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Her ratings were in the toilet. She was getting way under a million viewers by the end. And then there were the RV episodes, where she showed America just how entitled, spoiled, selfish and stupid she was. I don't recall the fans blaming haters, they could see what was going on. Remember, this was at least a year before anything in Hoffman's book started coming out.
Jamesvader1194 said... 154
The fans will blame Jon. They'll run trough their usual litany of lame excuses; he began running around with other women, he couldn't keep a job, he was lazy.
Jamesvader1194 said... 154
You know,seeing Milo and Goody police Kate's twitter and once again blaming the haters for the reason Kate's not on twitter anymore,i have to wonder
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Could it be that Kate's Twitter became a porn fest? Frankly, I agree with Kate not posting there anymore, but think she'll be right back to her "Twitter parties" and "I'll follow you if you parrot lines from our show!!" when and if TLC runs it.
RoxyHelen....I think TLC saw that Ashley Gardner was cut from the same cloth as Kate. The Busby's come across as relatively normal and wholesome. The Gardners have daily posts on You Tube as well as a blog. They are making money on their Etsy shop as well as other business ventures. They seem to have money to burn on their extravagant lifestyle, all the while accepting gifts from their followers. They are getting called out on their lazy parenting and when compared to Kate, people think Kate is the better parent. I cannot imagine Ashley ever spanking her babies though.
Could it be that Kate's Twitter became a porn fest? Frankly, I agree with Kate not posting there anymore, but think she'll be right back to her "Twitter parties" and "I'll follow you if you parrot lines from our show!!" when and if TLC runs it.
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You are right, Tucker's. It is disgusting that a mom of 8 would let that putrid twitter account stay alive. If she can spend the children's money to buy bots to say good things about her, she can spend her money to get them off.
This is why she went to IG and being able to delete unwanted comments.
She blew the opportunity of having a great website like PW, but the elephant in the room is that she is TOO LAZY! It would be better for her to film for the 40K and make money that way than pull in money off a website.
She gets a bigger narc fix that away, don'tcha know!
pincon said...158
I cannot imagine Ashley ever spanking her babies though.
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I am not saying that Ashley does spank, we don't know for sure, but a lot of people never imagined that TFW would spank her babies either. When the ugly truth came out, it was worse than any of us could imagine!
Throwing your 2 year old boy into his crib and beat him with the wooden spoon, into his crib, just because he had a potty accident!!!
5. Days. To. Learn. Potty. Training.
Woman, please.
No dogs today, but Deckster has returned.
kateplusmy8 When your gorgeous deck transitions so beautifully to fall, it helps ease the pain of another summer gone by... Thanks yet again @timbertechdeck and @breyerconstruct for your combined genius expertise! #InAwe #SoBlessed #TimberTechDeck 🍂🍁🍂 (photo credit: Mady G :)
Why does she keep mentioning the contractor? I smell . . . somethin'.
Ugh, those lights strung from poles (which do not appear to be part of the deck) look so tacky. If you're going to spend that kind of money on a deck, wouldn't you plan for appropriate lighting? There has to have been a designer involved.
Those tacky lights look like those you'd see years ago strung across a tacky used car sales lot.
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Throwing your 2 year old boy into his crib and beat him with the wooden spoon, into his crib, just because he had a potty accident!!!
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She wrote that she picked him up by the hair and threw him into his crib, but is there anything written in the journals that she beat him in his crib with the wooden spoon?
I see she has her cauldron on the deck too. Where's her broom?
Sad but true said... 161
No dogs today, but Deckster has returned.
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I'm still trying to figure out if it's a lesbian deck or a preacher deck. I can't tell the difference, not even with the lights strung across.
Would Milo know?
Ingrid (#165), good one!
Rainbowsandunicorns (#164), I think it was A that got a beating when he had an accident after only 2 days of potty training.
C's crib throwing was another incident.
Pretty awful when there are so many cases of mistreatment that it's hard to keep them straight. At the hands of their own mother, and told in her own words.
I read the post (160) and thought she picked Collin up by the hair, threw him into the crib and then beat him with a spoon. So these were separate incidents and different boys? Still horrible. I don't even want to think about it. How could anyone do this to a child?
I believe A's beating was for having a poopy incident after a few days of potty training. C was thrown into the crib with a beating for more general misbehavior. Was it the m&m's and tissue boxes? Something very toddler-ish. It still amazes me that she wrote down this crap. Maybe she thought she would be applauded for living through such terrible things like piles of tissues. No idea if she used the wooden spoon for either one but her love of implements for beating is appalling.
Throwing your 2 year old boy into his crib and beat him with the wooden spoon, into his crib, just because he had a potty accident!!!
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You are merging three different things here:
C got thrown in the crib at around 2yo.
A was beaten at 3-4yo for having a potty accident.
Kate used a wooden spoon to "discipline" various kids, she had a spoon in the car door(you can see it in pictures) and one in the house I think.
Source: Robert Hoffman book
First , her property's view is GORGEOUS.
Second, LOL the comment about her cauldron!
Third. FOUR seats for the fire pit? Odd considering the family size and most folks have a ton of seating for "friends" too. Oh that's right....there's only Stevie anyway.
Fourth. There's a gate on the deck, I assume to keep the pups from wandering off (or the kids, LOL). Remember we saw part of a kennel pictured on the deck? I suspect the pups live out there, not inside except for the photo ops.
Anxiously awaiting today's Halloween photo op.
@TLC Stinks I would be shocked if there's no puppy pictures of them in halloween costumes.Especially when the kids no longer pose for a halloween picture.
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I've never heard of this website before, but they seem to have a pretty detailed description of K8's next "season." They don't indicate when. Did TLC make an actual announcement somewhere?
http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/Kate-Gosselin-Celebraes-Ten-Years-on-TLC-with-New-Season-of-KATE-PLUS-8-20161031
Hi everyone, Happy Halloween! Tonight is the Halloween episode of Dancing With The Stars, it's always lots of fun to see what costumes and staging they come up with!
Oh and here it is:
http://www.tlc.com/tlcme/8-reasons-the-new-season-of-kate-plus-8-will-have-you-falling-in-love-with-the-gosselins-all-over-again/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=kateplus8&sf40490728=1
OMG the bellowing. They're talking over-drama, whining, screaming, and that's just in the first 45 seconds. Turn down your volume if you bother watching. Oh and air date IS 11/22 at 10 p.m.
Did someone really write this with a straight face? There's NO laughing whatsoever in the clip they've posted it's all screaming and shrieking. And what family (besides nuclear) are they talking about?
BTW, I did not catch sight of Collin at all.
7) Lots of Laughter
With so much quality time together this season, all that family time means tons of hilarious and cringe-worthy moments. From wrangling the energetic kids, to dealing with two teens who are about to be driving, Kate's got a lot on her plate. But through all the stress of parenting, she and the kids continue to find the humor and happiness in each of life's daily challenges. Even after all the years, appreciation for family has always been the glue that's held them together.
They were in New Orleans just like it was reported! Oh, didn't know about the Poconos (romantic for her and Steve) and of course THE BEACH.
Wow, sounds like the same crap.
The announcement is on TLC's FB page, but not (yet) on their K8 page. Interestingly, out of the first 30 comments, 3 are positive. The remainder are pretty much: "Why?," "Mady is so disrespectful," and "Where is The Little Couple?" LOL!
They were in New Orleans just like it was reported!
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Lately it seems like all the sightings we hear about end up being true. I think they're such old news now people don't bother to post false sightings. They get bored with such silly pranks.
Even after all the years, appreciation for family has always been the glue that's held them together.
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Seriously? OK, if you consider the kids and Kate family, but everyone else is kicked to the curb. I really don't like the narrative and the kids and Kate being family. Their family includes Jon.
Man, when you know what we know about their situation, the parental alienation, the emotional problems, this is such b.s.
Now why is there no mention of the nearly three years she was gone?
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Oh dear.What a face she made and what horrible squawks from Kate. The kids have her pegged. I felt sad watching even this short clip knowing Collin is far away from home, such as it is. Halloween with out his brothers. The girls seem not to have changed since the last fiasco episode.
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