Flimsy Flamsy 194 Tucker's Mom said... 195 I too am deeply concerned about Mady and the other female child. At the age of 12 until 15 years old I tried to kill myself. I thought that there was something wrong with me. Why couldn't my Mother love me?
It wasn't until my last attempt when the Doctors didn't think that I was going to survive that my Mother finally called my Father. Thank God that I was not successful in taking my life. At the time I was angry, but clearly God had his own plans for me.
My Father took me home to his house and immediately got me in to counseling. My Mother was so infuriated that she did not talk to me for almost three months.
After going to counseling I realized that my Mother was afraid of being exposed. It had nothing to do with me. It had everything to do with my Mother. My Mother was emotionally handicapped!
I continued going to counseling for over 2 years, three times a week and then twice a week. I learned so much that I was able to help my siblings.
None of us ever stopped loving our Mother. We were always respectful and almost felt sorry for her. How sad that she was not able to love the way that we loved. I still grieve for my Mother.
My Mother was always to busy trying to prove to the world how great of a Mother she was that she forgot what was really important. She never had time to enjoy the gifts (children) and grandchildren that she had been blessed with. As I said before, my Mother reminds me so much of Kate and that is why I fear for the 8.
We have been so blessed! Our Father and Stepmother have always been there for us and it is a tribute to them both that we have all been successful in life, in our marriages and careers. Fortunately, we all learned from our Mother what we didn't want in life.
The 8 don't have their Father or extended family to love and encourage them.
Our Father or Stepmother NEVER said a hateful word against our Mother, nor would they allow us to.
The most important thing that we have all learned from our childhood is to NEVER abuse the most precious gift that God has given us, OUR CHILDREN and FAMILY.
Allegedly, one of the nannies who quit said that Kate took one of the boys into the bathroom to spank him HARD, so the crew didn't see it.
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Nothing would surprise me when it comes to her disciplining the kids, but does that mean that she beat them to perform? Maybe he misbehaved, mouthed off to her, or hit one of his siblings.
SarahK said... 199 . . . By the way, whatever happened to Lauren the bus driver? ______
She spends most of her time Duggar-bashing these days. I know, right? To me, they're all pretty much the same. Keep that gravy train going no matter who or how many it takes out on its way to fame and fortune.
It's funny how TFW's number of followers on Instagram keeps going up but the number of "likes" and comments remains the same. If I didn't know better I'd think she was buying followers. 😏
None of us ever stopped loving our Mother. We were always respectful and almost felt sorry for her. How sad that she was not able to love the way that we loved. I still grieve for my Mother. ***** That, right there. That's how you know you're not like your mother or like Kate. You have empathy and an ability to feel. I imagine your mother had a very shallow existence. I'm so glad you survived and thrived. Thank you for sharing such a painful story. The world is better place for having you in it!
Someone posted about TFW hitting the kids while filming.
The following text was taken from an article that was published in The National Enquirer on June 22, 2009.
Kate Gosselin, her Network family, and her followers dismissed it as a crazy pack of lies from a disgruntled, former Gosselin employee, just as they always dismissed every negative story that any tabloid ever wrote about Kate.
“An ex-staffer of Kate Gosselin, who worked for the Gosselins for more than a year before recently resigning, claims they have witnessed Kate using corporal punishment on the couple’s 8-year-old twins and 5-year-old sextuplets.
“When one of the boys closed a door on another one once, Kate got in their faces and yelled, “You tell me the truth about what happened!” “The children just stood there terrified. Then she dragged one of the boys into the bathroom and spanked him five or six times with a large plastic spoon.”
“You could hear Kate forcefully whacking the child and the child screaming at the top of his lungs. People told me it happened more than once, but it was off-camera because Kate didn’t want it in the show.”
Now read this quote from Kate Gosselin about how “real” her show is, and how they don’t hide anything from you – the viewer: “We know we're doing the best for our family, and I'm sorry if you're unhappy. How about that? I'm not always happy with what you see (on the show), nor is Jon. But we are certainly not going to hide our imperfections.” - Kate Gosselin
The problem with Kate’s statement is that she did, indeed, make every effort possible to hide the forceful spanking and physical “disciplining” of her children.
I don’t recall ever seeing Kate smacking any of her children around on her TV shows, but her writings tell us it most definitely happened.
The 8 don't have their Father or extended family to love and encourage them. ****** The isolation is profound. Outside of school, Kate keeps them as close as possible. I think Kate is a very, very insecure woman and her control over her kids would be compromised if she let her kids become involved to any great degree in anything else besides the compound and filming.
Joel had gotten out of his crib at nap time, I guess because he wasn’t tired anymore. Kate heard him getting into drawers so she went upstairs and spanked him and put him back in his crib.
After the designated naptime was officially over, Kate made Joel stay in his crib while everyone else got to go downstairs. She wants him to know how serious she is about naptime and that she will not tolerate crib climbing!!!!!
She says she hopes he got the message but isn’t sure because of the glazy look in his eyes when she talks to him!!!!!
October 2006
Four little toddlers in diapers got into the tissue box on Grandma’s desk AGAIN. Kate says they did it yesterday as well and she spanked all six of them and put them in the corner.
I think TFW left the box of Kleenex in the toddlers reach on Grandma's old desk (instead of putting them out of reach like a normal person would) on purpose because she knew they would get into them and that gave her the opportunity to punish them hard and to achieve her goal of breaking them, their spirit, so she could have complete control over them, ALL!
She said her dad was very, very strict on discipline, so she is just continuing the cycle of abuse or whoever abused her as a child.
What is she going to do when she tries to pick up one of the boys to hang them upside down and try to push their face in Nanqu's or Max's steaming dog pile on her tile or carpeted floor?
She might get pushed back.
Reminds me of the LHOTP episode when the bully, played by Michael Landon's son, who now does the Hallmark movies, Mary swung her lunch pail, knocked him down and started pounding on him. Laura ran over to help, but he got up and pushed Laura down. Then Mary was hitting and then they show the kids whispering to each other and then they all throw down their books and dog pile on the bully and beat the fire out of him!
@Sad but true (4) As usual,Lauren can't see her own hypocrisy like most of Kate's supporters.Here she claims no one would know who the teen mom girls were if they didn't get knocked up at 16 and yet no one would know Kate if she never had the 6. Lauren @ljohnson2006 Sep 30 No one would know who the #TeenMom2 and #TeenMomOG girls were if MTV hadn't praised them for getting knocked up at 16
“When one of the boys closed a door on another one once, Kate got in their faces and yelled, “You tell me the truth about what happened!” “The children just stood there terrified. Then she dragged one of the boys into the bathroom and spanked him five or six times with a large plastic spoon.”
^^^ That sounds EXACTLY like Kate. We've seen Kate scream and lose it when she wants her kids to fess up or snitch on who did something as small as removing a knob pull. I believe this story 100%. Kate took glee in the fact that she had backup "spankers" and kept them in her car so she could strike her kids wherever she was.
@MiloandJack: Soon you will have two 16yr olds #BookSmartOffTheChart Your next challenge to teach them #Wisdom #HumbleHeart LOL #RaisingTeens @Kateplusmy8 ======== Now how does Milo know that they're "book smart off the chart"? Does TFW share their report cards with her? Oh, that's right, in the Gospel According To Kate (which was handed down in stone to Milo), all of the kids are at the top of their classes.
NJGal51 (#14), and it's also yet another inadvertent shot at TFW from Gladys. Is she saying the twins, at 16, still need to be taught to have humble hearts? Since TFW claims she's doing all this alone, it sounds like she's really dropped the ball on that one.
I don’t recall ever seeing Kate smacking any of her children around on her TV shows, but her writings tell us it most definitely happened. ---------------- I always said if you looked closely, you could see stuff that clearly pointed towards the kids being smacked. Kids doing something wrong-camera cut-kid suddenly crying hysterically and RUNNING(I vivivdly remember 2 year old Collin literally running) towards the corner. Sometimes Kate had some object in her hand, I assume when she wasn't hitting them with her hand, she used whatever was in her hand.
The most despicable thing though, is that they did that whole episode called "Discipline" and talked about how the sole form of discipline in the house is time out(they even asked the kids and they all replied at once, like trained monkeys "time out").
In another episode, a Q&A, one viewer asked how J&K got the kids to just go to the corner, even when young and Kate said something like "Oh, they just do. we tell them to go and they do it". It seems especially heartbreaking when you now know WHY the 2 year olds were in a rush to get to the corner, doesn't it?
I vividly remember one incident, when they were very young, at the beginning of the show where Collin bites Aaden and when Kate yells "Collin!" you can see Collin's horror(he is TWO at this point) and he steps a bit backwards and his hands are fidgety, he's doing this thing with his hands that you usually see older kids or adults do when they are extremely nervous or panicky you can tell he is extremely anxious. Again, hearbreaking since now we know what he was enduring off camera.
I remember Aaden aged two doing the same, crying and running to the corner, hands to his bottom as if expecting a swat. Also I recall Hannah being a little secretive recently when asked what happens if they do something wrong after 3 warnings or something like that. So penalty of severeness may occur to this day IMO.And being sworn to secrecy.
RoxyHelen (#20), and how about C's famous "happy dance," when Inspector Gadget ceased her interrogation about the drawer knob? Many of us saw that as an outlet of his relief that he didn't get a beating. I can still hear her anger when they said they didn't do it: "Well, SOMEBODY did it, because I'm HOLDING it!" She wasn't holding broken pieces of a Ming vase. It. Was. A. Knob.
Formerly Duped I believe that Aaden incident was over him biting Collin, outside. Kate makes Aaden apologies and then sends him to time out. She had the same object(paper roll?) in her hand as during the Collin incident(which presumably happened a different day) which I find suspicious. She was clearly using that thing to hit the kids.
What is she going to do when she tries to pick up one of the boys to hang them upside down and try to push their face in Nanqu's or Max's steaming dog pile on her tile or carpeted floor?
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Who did she hang upside down?
"I think TFW left the box of Kleenex in the toddlers reach on Grandma's old desk (instead of putting them out of reach like a normal person would) on purpose because she knew they would get into them and that gave her the opportunity to punish them hard and to achieve her goal of breaking them, their spirit, so she could have complete control over them, ALL!"
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Huh? Where is this coming from? Robert? Golly? This is a stretch. I seriously doubt that Kate, who no doubt is lazy, would actually want the kids to make a mess. She'd have to clean it up and I just can't see her doing that for any reason.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 6h6 hours ago You "SAME 24/7" haters of @Kateplusmy8 are nothing but a bunch of harassing & nosy ass busy bodies in Kate's business you know NOTHING about
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Then what does this make Milo? She isn't called Gladys Kravitz for nothing! :)
The sheep just don't get it. They just don't, and that's what is sad. They can't see outside their own little box.
Sherri and RainbowsandUnicorns, everypost I put is from Robert's book.
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Robert posted that Kate intentionally left the tissue box on the desk so that the children would make a mess? I don't remember reading that, but there are parts that I skipped; specifically the animal abuse section.
@rainbowsandunicorns I thought Goody said she has the haters blocked?Funny she always talking about the haters harassing Kate and yet all she ever does is whine about the Kate haters.
No, Robert didn't say that she intentionally put the box of tissues out. This is what he wrote that she wrote in her journal.
October 2006
Four little toddlers in diapers got into the tissue box on Grandma’s desk AGAIN. Kate says they did it yesterday as well and she spanked all six of them and put them in the corner.
Then why would you put the box of Kleenex back in the same place so the babies could get into it, make a mess, spank them all hard, make them all go into the corner.
That takes a lot of energy to do.
Scream, melt down, whip your kids, put them all into the corner and clean up the mess. And she had just done this the day before! So, why would you let it happen again?
@rainbowsandunicorns I thought Goody said she has the haters blocked?Funny she always talking about the haters harassing Kate and yet all she ever does is whine about the Kate haters.
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I know nothing about Twitter, but even if she has them blocked, can't she go to Kate's TL and read the tweets? I don't have Twitter and that's how I see all the tweets.
I don't believe Kate left the tissues there on purpose to break the kids. She seems profoundly unaware of how children's minds work. Most of us would move the tissue box. She really seems to think that they learned from yesterday's beating not to touch the tissues. You have to get down on their level, tell them why they were wrong, have them apologize, then move the damned tissues. They will learn this lesson after 10 or 12 or 15 repetitions. They're tissues. Sure they cost a few bucks but there's no danger. Kate thinks they connected the beating with the tissues and won't do it again. They're toddlers and brains are still developing. You can see it again and again in Kate's journal. She expected them to reason and think and choose like 20 yr olds.
No, Robert didn't say that she intentionally put the box of tissues out. This is what he wrote that she wrote in her journal.
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I'm confused (not the first time). In post 27, you said that everything you post is from Robert's book. Now you are saying it's not from Robert's book.
I think I need a double shot of something. Anything.
I'm confused (not the first time). In post 27, you said that everything you post is from Robert's book. Now you are saying it's not from Robert's book.
I think I need a double shot of something. Anything.
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Ditto here. I'm not sure what is straight from Robert's book, what is being paraphrased, what Kate wrote in her journal, or what is speculation/opinion.
It's helpful to put quotation marks around what a person said, whether it's something found in an article/book, or something someone has said in an interview, etc. If one is merely interpreting or speculating on what someone said, no quotation marks are necessary, of course.
Did Spitz come right out and say that Burke committed the murder, or was it a theory/his opinion that Burke could have killed his sister? I only watched bits and pieces of the show.
It would seem to me that if Burke were in any way involved in this that he wouldn't want to open up this can of worms where he would be subject to discovery/depositions and the like. Wouldn't he have a whole lot of 'splaining to do?
They're toddlers and brains are still developing. You can see it again and again in Kate's journal. She expected them to reason and think and choose like 20 yr olds. October 6, 2016 at 7:24 PM ****** Right down to expecting apologies from 2-3 year olds was odd. Kate was profoundly either willfully ignorant of child development and how to deal with their behaviors, or just plain mean. Dogs are much like 2-year olds. If they have a tendency to grab something like food where they can reach it, you move the food. You don't get mad at your lab because you found that she helped herself to the flatbread (you were going to make pizza with!) on the counter and shared it with your bichon, as you catch them 3/4 of the way through it! Yup, that happened ;-)
Did Spitz come right out and say that Burke committed the murder, or was it a theory/his opinion that Burke could have killed his sister? I only watched bits and pieces of the show.
It would seem to me that if Burke were in any way involved in this that he wouldn't want to open up this can of worms where he would be subject to discovery/depositions and the like. Wouldn't he have a whole lot of 'splaining to do? ****** I don't recall if anyone said, "Burke definitely did it", but there's no doubt they thought it was Burke. The "experts" were certainly minding themselves and guarding their language as to not come out and say Burke is guilty, yet everything they were presenting pointed to Burke. If I were Burke, I would feel slandered. Whether that special meets the definition, I don't know.
Tucker's Mom (#42), I do hope you managed to extract an apology from your dogs. And I assume you vehemently asserted that you are in charge, and that's never gonna change.
Only 7 months until TFW has 7 teenagers under her roof (or 8, if the one she shipped out comes back). Tick tock...
I watched the CBS documentary and it is my recollection that Dr. Spitz expressed his "theory" that Burke was responsible for Jon Benet's death. Not sure if that meets the standard for slander.
According to TMZ, he's actually being sued for comments he made on a radio show around the time the CBS program aired. Lin Wood affirmed that they are going after CBS as well, but this is separate.
Dogs are much like 2-year olds. If they have a tendency to grab something like food where they can reach it, you move the food. You don't get mad at your lab because you found that she helped herself to the flatbread (you were going to make pizza with!) on the counter and shared it with your bichon, as you catch them 3/4 of the way through it! Yup, that happened ;-)
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But, but, but, you didn't grab the nearest PVC pipe, wooden spoon and go to town on your poor pup after you toss him into his bedding? Screaming? Because he ate the flat bread?
I know you didn't do any such thing.
But TFW does. She is a child abuser and an animal abuser.
You can tell you love your fur babies so much from the years of reading this blog! This world needs more people like you and the other animal lovers on this blog that treat their animals with love and compassion. And actually take them to the vet when they get sick and PAY the bill.
When you google her name, the pictures of Aaden in the puppy cage, Jon, DJ'ing and her with her earrings swinging are finally way down the line.
I know it is old news, but she is "devastated" that Jeff dumped her. The only reason why she is "devastated" is because of the money that she won't get for filming new episodes with Jeff built on Lies.
But, on the other hand, she gathers the remaining children at the compound and has a photo shoot with People with that horrible smug grin on her face and talks about Colin's medical crisis on a national magazine cover.
She never says the word "devastated" in the article. A normal mother would be beside herself, stopping filming, getting him help, devoting herself to him getting better. In fact, a normal mother wouldn't be filming.
The bottom line is what she is devoted to.
It's over! Kate Plus 8's Kate Gosselin, 40, is 'devastated' millionaire beau Jeff Prescott has 'dumped' her for blonde beauty, 26
I start my post: Then why would you put the box of Kleenex...
I need a shot of something too. Reading all of the abuse she put those kids through calls for a drink! Sloe Gin anyone? ------
The second version Robert released he had to paraphrase Kate's exact words, which is why it is confusing coming from Golly Gee. She just didn't explain it in a way people can understand.
It is FROM Kate's journal-he just couldn't use all of HER words after SHE copyrighted the material.
Since GG makes up her own scenarios from time to time, it is hard to know what is from HER mind and made up to what is coming from Kate/Robert. Scary, but I followed her this time and I haven't had Sloe Gin since I was in highschool. Is that the cherry flavored stuff? I got sooooo sick from that once and never drank again.
Rainbowsandunicorns (33) To answer your question,she can only see them if she logs out of her account and looks at her TL not logged in.If she's on her account,she can't see tweets from people who she has blocked.So,if she can't see the haters tweet then its not really harassment.
Kate is dumber than a box of hair. She knows that the media picks at her and tabs will come out with stories about her being a Monster Mom, so why on God's green earth would she post a picture of her son in a dog cage? Did she think it was cute? Kate, before you do this, think about these pictures, what the repercussions could be, and then don't do it!
I'm pretty sure the guy made it clear it was his theory, though one he believed in whole heartedly and the only one that made sense to him. He also pointed out errors in the investigation that could have cleared up some weaker points in his theory. I don't see that Burke has a case though I do understand why this is very upsetting. This might be a case of first impression. Whether you have a first amendment right to accuse people of this or that as long as you cover it under a "theory."
"Burke Ramsey filed the suit against Dr. Werner Spitz, but not for his comments on the CBS special, "The Case of: JonBenet Ramsey." Instead, Burke is going after the doctor for a radio interview he did with CBS Detroit ... in which Spitz said, "It's the boy who did it [killed JonBenet], whether he was jealous, or mentally unfit or something ... I don't know of the why, I'm not a psychiatrist, but what I am sure about is what I know about him, that is what happened here."
Serendipity said... 51 Kate is dumber than a box of hair. She knows that the media picks at her and tabs will come out with stories about her being a Monster Mom, so why on God's green earth would she post a picture of her son in a dog cage? ***** Kate is either unaware of how corrosive her behavior is, or she just doesn't care.
But, but, but, you didn't grab the nearest PVC pipe, wooden spoon and go to town on your poor pup after you toss him into his bedding? Screaming? Because he ate the flat bread? ***** The only thing I do is give a loud, "eh eh", and it's done. It gets their attention, stops the behavior, then I can take what's left of the flatbread or whatever is they have, so I can get it away from them or have them stop whatever it is I don't want them to continue doing. No spanking or yelling or punishment. I interrupt, then move on pleasantly. Again, at the end of the day, that flatbread should have been out of reach. My fault completely. Our lab is getting a lot better with her counter surfing, but I don't think she'll be one of those dogs I can totally trust. Won't be leaving the Thanksgiving turkey unattended ;-)
But, but, but, you didn't grab the nearest PVC pipe, wooden spoon and go to town on your poor pup after you toss him into his bedding? Screaming? Because he ate the flat bread?
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GollyGee, I don't remember a reference to a PVC pipe that Kate used or threatened to use on the dog or kids. Was that in Robert's book? It's been quite a while since I read the book and am probably just not remembering.
How will Burke prove that Dr. Spitz' statement is false? I'm not sure, but I thought in order to win Burke will have to 'prove' that he didn't kill Jon Benet. This could be very interesting because, if I remember correctly, the blow to the head did not kill her. The autopsy report was that she died as a result of strangulation caused by the garrote many people believe was applied by the father, John Ramsey.
Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
Burke's case will likely hinge on whether he is a public figure or not, or perhaps a limited public figure i.e. someone famous in a very narrow area but not otherwise famous. It could get complicated. There's a fair argument he is indeed a private figure because he has been very quiet for the vast majority of his life and I don't think a lot of people would recognize him or even recognize his name. True Crime nerds remember this case way more than the average person.
GollyGee, I don't remember a reference to a PVC pipe that Kate used or threatened to use on the dog or kids. Was that in Robert's book? It's been quite a while since I read the book and am probably just not remembering. ****** Golly Gee was just kidding using hyperbole. I knew what she meant ;-)
I was actually thinking the opposite of BM, that it would be very easy for Burke to prove in fact he was NOT the murderer, as he was never even charged with the murder let alone convicted. In the case file Burke has been ruled out and the crime is labeled unsolved.
He may very well have been the murderer but what matters is if the courts say you are.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 61 Burke's case will likely hinge on whether he is a public figure or not, or perhaps a limited public figure i.e. someone famous in a very narrow area but not otherwise famous. It could get complicated ***** Interesting to think about how this applies to the Gosselin kids. They are public figures, but not of their own choosing. I wonder what their rights will be when and if they choose to become private citizens. At this point, I don't consider them private kids just going about their business. I think they are reality tv stars and very much in the public domain. Thanks to Kate.
GollyGee said... 61 Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
How will Burke prove that Dr. Spitz' statement is false? I'm not sure, but I thought in order to win Burke will have to 'prove' that he didn't kill Jon Benet. This could be very interesting because, if I remember correctly, the blow to the head did not kill her. The autopsy report was that she died as a result of strangulation caused by the garrote many people believe was applied by the father, John Ramsey.
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Milo was late to tonight's party, but compensates by being extra annoying:
miloandjack2016 The #RegalKingShoka in all his glory! Now that just makes a house look like HOME! #Guard Duty #OfficialGreeter. Has he just come from the groomer? He poses so well! @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 Haha....he kind of has that posture...pose...of the ancient castle entrances that were guarded by statutes of LIONS on each side! #KingShoka. 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 You have been kind of quiet about tomorrows significance? Are you in #MomDenial? #TheyCantBeThisGrown? #SweetSixteenTimesTwo #TimeMarchesOn. ❤ @kateplusmy8
#MomDenial? Yes, about so many things, but I doubt her kids' b'day.
Tucker's Mom said... 56 Our lab is getting a lot better with her counter surfing, but I don't think she'll be one of those dogs I can totally trust. Won't be leaving the Thanksgiving turkey unattended ;-) ----- Make sure to tell us how it goes with that Christmas turkey. Which always brings to mind that scene in A Christmas Story with the neighbours dogs.
Milo was late to tonight's party, but compensates by being extra annoying ----------------
She's making sure that everyone knows about the twins birthday, both on twitter and IG:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 29m Soon 2teens will be #YoungAdults! #SweetSixteen! From my #MomsOldVinyls #EyeRolls permitted! LOL ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5CUfVm1Si8 … @kateplusmy8
The youtube video is Neil Sedaka's "Happy Birthday Sweet 16".
The she gets a little snotty to one commentor on IG:
missmoan2So many compliments about missing the show. So many questions about when the show will start again. Never an answer. Why?
miloandjack2016Umm...I believe it was her last #IG post where she DID ANSWER that full season of NEW episodes were moved up to January. She also tweeted that. Long time to wait...but well worth it! 😃 @missmoan2
Umm...Milo? When did Kate tweet that? I don't consider Kate's retweet of a tweet by you as being Kate tweeting it herself.
Sad but true (#70), another picture perfect fantasy about the G household from Gladys. No mention of the son who is far away, and how he might be missed.
miloandjack2016Umm...I believe it was her last #IG post where she DID ANSWER that full season of NEW episodes were moved up to January. ******* Yeah that would be PUSHED BACK until January of next year. Not verified by TLC.
Make sure to tell us how it goes with that Christmas turkey. Which always brings to mind that scene in A Christmas Story with the neighbours dogs. ***** Fa Ra Ra Ra Ra... ;-)
Just watched the first pitch of Shark Tank. 2 sisters, wearing bathing suits, pitched Mom Bathing Suits. Barbara asked if they had went through a journey so she could see if they could tough it out if she invested.
The mom broke down in tears and told about her son who was diagnosed with ADHD, learning and writing disorder. She put everything on hold and her and her husband worked on him to get him better. They took him to regular school, helped him and in about a year he was reading above grade level.
Barbara talked about her daughter and her struggles. As busy as she is, she said, when she came home after work, she spent an hour and a half with her and helped her.
It is so shameful and disgusting that TFW would send Colin far away, announce on a People cover about Colin's medical crisis with his siblings and her smug face, then puppypaloosa love fest with the 2 pups and now she has dragged poor Shoka into her scam.
God doesn't like ugly and causing little ones to stumble. Her day is coming.
GollyGee said... 61 Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
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Kate is one brick short of a load, but I doubt that even she would walk around with a PVC pipe. Why even bring it up?
It is so shameful and disgusting that TFW would send Colin far away, announce on a People cover about Colin's medical crisis with his siblings and her smug face, then puppypaloosa love fest with the 2 pups and now she has dragged poor Shoka into her scam.
God doesn't like ugly and causing little ones to stumble. Her day is coming.
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Does anyone know exactly the extent of Collin's issues? Is he far away? Has it been reported where he is?
It could be something much more serious than attention deficit or a learning disability. If so, it's possible that Kate isn't trained to deal with it, she doesn't know how to help him, and staying with her and her ineptness could be detrimental to a positive outcome. I hope he is at the best place he can be and is getting the professional help he needs. Kate certainly isn't a trained therapist.
That said, putting Collin out there for publicity reasons and the People interview was despicable. There was no reason for it.
Midnight Madness said... 77 GollyGee said... 61 Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
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Kate is one brick short of a load, but I doubt that even she would walk around with a PVC pipe. Why even bring it up?
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There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it.
Kate is one brick short of a load, but I doubt that even she would walk around with a PVC pipe. Why even bring it up?
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There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it. ****** I think it looked like a hard cardboard roll. Harder than the paper towel roll. That said, I put a large wooden/plastic spanker right up there with a pvc pipe. Any hard implement or belt or switch of any kind is abusive. Parents should never strike with anything but an open hand, and it should be a quick swat, at that. I just would like to think as a society, we've evolved beyond striking children.
Does anyone know exactly the extent of Collin's issues? Is he far away? Has it been reported where he is?
It could be something much more serious than attention deficit or a learning disability. If so, it's possible that Kate isn't trained to deal with it, she doesn't know how to help him, and staying with her and her ineptness could be detrimental to a positive outcome. I hope he is at the best place he can be and is getting the professional help he needs. Kate certainly isn't a trained therapist. ****** If, IF Colin could have been treated at home with a very attentive parent or parents, who dedicated all resources and summoned all help that they could, that is simply not Kate. So, I don't think sending Colin away for treatment is necessarily bad, considering Kate and the media circus she invites, and the filming she won't stop and the constant need to stay in the public eye and in the tabloids.
There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it.
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The recent comment here was the first time I've ever heard TFW's "weapon" described as a piece of PVC pipe (I don't think she's that stupid to use something so hard). IMO, it was the inner cardboard tube from a roll of paper towels. But, only TFW and the TLC crew knows for sure...
GollyGee said... 81 Midnight Madness said... 77 GollyGee said... 61 Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
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Kate is one brick short of a load, but I doubt that even she would walk around with a PVC pipe. Why even bring it up?
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There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it. ------------
I remember a picture of her holding a cardboard paper towel holder that looked firmer than the typical Bounty paper towel holder, but not PVC pipe. Perhaps someone has the photo. Of course, using any device to threaten and strike a child is reprehensible.
kateplusmy8 16 years ago, these two perfectly amazing girls were born! I'm so thankful for them each and every day! Happy 16th birthday, Mady and Cara! Can't wait to celebrate YOU today!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ #LoveMom #FiveMonthsOldInPic
Kate wasn't holding a PVC pipe, or the cardboard tube from paper towels.
She was holding the much thicker and stronger cardboard tube from something like aluminum foil.
There is a big difference between the two types of cardboard tubes. The paper towel one is very thin and can fold up easily. The aluminum foil tube can't be folded up or bent. It's VERY sturdy.
She had that in her hand several times in the show when "disciplining" them as babies in diapers.
I recall seeing it in her hand one time in the garage, and it's also in the scene of Kate putting Collin in time out. That's the one screen shot that's been posted on Twitter several times.
She also of course used that big, red plastic spoon that was on the counter once in one scene, as well as the big wooden spoon scene in the door of her van.
She had that in her hand several times in the show when "disciplining" them as babies in diapers. ****** That's a key point. Oh, if the crew could or would talk.
Happy 16th birthday, Mady and Cara! Can't wait to celebrate YOU today!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ #LoveMom #FiveMonthsOldInPic October 8, 2016 at 6:24 AM ***** Well, good that Kate made it about the twins. The tups will never have it be about them and the day they were born. 3 packs of bacon a day! 17 month bedrest!!
"There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it."
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Yes, the picture is out there. Yes, there is a circle around it, but I remember someone zooming in on it, and it wasn't a PVC pipe! Where did this speculation originate?
"If, IF Colin could have been treated at home with a very attentive parent or parents, who dedicated all resources and summoned all help that they could, that is simply not Kate. So, I don't think sending Colin away for treatment is necessarily bad, considering Kate and the media circus she invites, and the filming she won't stop and the constant need to stay in the public eye and in the tabloids."
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Totally agree. Being away from her, filming, and the media most likely is the best thing for this child.
Here's hoping with the greatest hope that Jon gets to see his twin girls for their 16th birthday. I can't imagine how painful it will be if they refuse. 16 is big. Time to grow up, girls and heal your relationship with your dad. It will be the best birthday present you could ever wish for.
Over in TFW's County -- I agree that 'adding' to what Kate has done with speculation is not a good idea. It gets confusing when those speculations are right in the middle of some truth. It's just so not necessary. The things Kate does are bad enough but adding what you think something might be and then causing a stir, and doing it again and again is ridiculous.
CC (#88), I was just about to post the same thing as you did. That is not a paper towel roll that kids turn into craft projects. It's super sturdy, and, as you said, not even bendable. Now imagine that being swung with force by an angry woman (remember those pictures of her lifting L's dress and smacking her bottom?) on toddlers' tender skin.
Here's hoping with the greatest hope that Jon gets to see his twin girls for their 16th birthday. I can't imagine how painful it will be if they refuse. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sadly I don't think this will happen. The twins are probably caught up in whatever exciting things are planned and after all, they are 'just so busy in their lives and don't need toxicity'...I doubt they'll change their tune after all this time . No nudge from Kate reminding them he IS their father.
Lol for a second i thought barb was also celebrating Mady and Cara's birthday as well. barbgilmer1@kateplusmy8 We are celebrating the twins as well here as Zach & Jacob turned 14 on the 6th of October!
Does anyone know if the non-fans on Kate's Twitters are from her area, or have kids who go to the same school? It seems like they know so much about what the kids get to do or don't get to do, that they are confined to their house, that the twins never get to spend time with their friends and have absolutely no social life. The only way they would know this for sure is if they are locals and know from personal experience that the twins never go out, have no friends, and never do anything without their mother.
All This Is That said... 98 Does anyone know if the non-fans on Kate's Twitters are from her area, or have kids who go to the same school? It seems like they know so much about what the kids get to do or don't get to do, that they are confined to their house, that the twins never get to spend time with their friends and have absolutely no social life. The only way they would know this for sure is if they are locals and know from personal experience that the twins never go out, have no friends, and never do anything without their mother. --------------------------------- They may very well not know "for sure" but are speculating/making inferences based on what Kate puts out there on TV, magazines (People interviews), twitter and instagram.
Many of the non-fan's names and addresses were released during the Great McGiblet Farce and none of them lived in close proximity to Kate.
The non-fans have told, retold and embellished their stories for so long they've created their own little fantasy house of horrors that greatly diminishes their credibility.
That's not to say Kate is a good, thoughtful, empathetic mother. She's a manipulative, controlling fame whore whose first priority is keeping herself and her family on television.
It's been said here more than once by someone who lives in the area by Kate that the kids DO have activities outside the home. Music lessons, sports, scouts, etc., who knows what or how often? Judging by the amount of time and actual filming it takes to put together even a 1/2 hour show, and the number of times they've been seen filming plus Kate sometimes mentioning when they do it's doubtful the kids outside activities can be too demanding of their time.
Cuz she's rich she can do what she wants. Law? What law? when you're filthy rich.
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What law requires her to wait around in a foreign country while the French police get their shit together? No thanks. I'm not going to hang around in France during a crime investigation after I already gave my statement. This is not a rich people thing. This is a smart people thing.
She's actually following the law--you are under no obligation to speak to the police if there's any chance they might turn on you. I would give my statement with my lawyer present then get out of dodge. I don't trust that country as far as I can spit. They've completely lost control of their country to ISIS and Middle East immigration. People are dying in terrorist attack after terrorist attack while they sit around trying to figure out who robbed Kim Kardashian.
Even if she has chosen to cooperate fully, it doesn't do much good to stick around. She should give them as complete as statement as possible and then make sure she has left good contact information. They can call her if they have any more questions, and if need be, she can fly back out if they really need to see her in person.
Couple years ago when my car was broken into along with five others I didn't stick around and watch the forensics and wait for the cops to figure it out. I gave my statement, my phone number in case they had any follow up, and left. She was dusting my car for fingerprints as I left. It's not my job to babysit the investigation, they're the experts.
They may very well not know "for sure" but are speculating/making inferences based on what Kate puts out there on TV, magazines (People interviews), twitter and instagram.
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I think "All This And That" was talking about the twins not having any kind of social life, no friends, etc. as the non-fans keep tweeting. I don't remember Kate putting it out there, or even suggesting, that these kids are confined to their homes, have no friends or social life and don't interact with their peers.
Maybe I'm out of the loop with what Kate has said in interviews, or even suggested, but it's just not true.
Kylie said... 93 Over in TFW's County -- I agree that 'adding' to what Kate has done with speculation is not a good idea. It gets confusing when those speculations are right in the middle of some truth. It's just so not necessary. The things Kate does are bad enough but adding what you think something might be and then causing a stir, and doing it again and again is ridiculous.
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Yes, I agree. Kate does enough on her own that it's ridiculous to throw things out there that just aren't true, such as PVC pipes, hanging kids upside down and sticking their faces into feces, etc., that such embellishments really aren't necessary, especially when it's speculation, and when we can't distinguish opinion from fact or when something comes directly from Robert's book and quotes aren't used.
I would hope by now that everyone here knows that I most certainly am not a Kate fan or sheeple! ;)
Well, the birthday IG post has been up for almost 12 hours, and while it's getting more hearts and comments than any other post thus far, the turnout is rather pathetic. Under 200 comments (by far the most any of her IG posts has received) and almost 6,000 hearts (again, way ahead of any other post). Hardly a tidal wave.
To add insult to injury, K8's TLC FB page has nary a mention of the landmark b'day, and I've only seen one tab story from a source no one reads. Not even ROL got in on this act. Her Twitter TL has mostly been dead all day, with only a few intrepid fans (a hearty welcome back to Cindy Brown aka Marie!) bothering to post anything at all.
Does anyone else hear the sound of one hand clapping?
MARIE @MY_BORDERCOLLIE 14m14 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 HAPPY SWEET 16 BIRTHDAY TO MADY AND CARA! Have they taken their drivers test yet Kate? Scary isn't it? lol lol
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LOL! Uh, no, not unless they've been driving illegally without a permit! First, they need a permit and they need to be 16 in order to get one; then they need to log 65 hours of supervised driving with a licensed driver. Then they take the test.
Have they taken their test yet? Ah, sheeple. Such doofi.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m6 minutes ago At #SweetSixteen could be Mom's call to #OpenTheDoor just a lil more so her beautiful girls can soar! #CaraAndMady #TrustEarned @kateplusmy8
Uh, oh. Passive-aggressive Gladys is giving Kate some parenting advice. Watch out, Milo, she might block you. It's kind of like the Incredible Hulk. You don't want to make her angry. She won't like you when she's angry!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack #MixedEmotions Your baby girls are growing up! They are GOOD girls & have been helpful big sisters! @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack At #SweetSixteen could be Mom's call to #OpenTheDoor just a lil more so her beautiful girls can soar! #CaraAndMady #TrustEarned @kateplusmy8
Gladys is sure making it sound like Mommy Dearest is keeping the b'day girls under lock and key. Maybe she heard something from #PumpkinBottom? Cause I'm damned sure she didn't hear anything at all from K8.
DEPLORABLE Barbie @barbiejeansayre Ida just call she tell me SHE say the pastor ejaculated all the church said it wasn't safe OR soun for em her an Benny over to Evelyn's now
@Sad But True (104) And not to mention no happy birthday from TLC on twitter or IG post.I get that the twins were never the focus but i'd think if Kate was as relevant as milo say she is then TLC would at least have tweeted or post something.
Does anyone else hear the sound of one hand clapping?
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Or the sound of a tree falling in the forest?
I noticed that not too many were all giddy with excitement over the Big Event today. Her TL didn't crash with 200,000 birthday wishes. I'm surprised she didn't pay Tweeters to clog her twitter, just to keep it alive, you know.
@MiloandJack: Soon you will have two 16yr olds #BookSmartOffTheChart Your next challenge to teach them #Wisdom #HumbleHeart LOL #RaisingTeens @Kateplusmy8 ---- How can Kate possibly teach qualities that she herself doesn't have?
@MiloandJack: Soon you will have two 16yr olds #BookSmartOffTheChart Your next challenge to teach them #Wisdom #HumbleHeart LOL #RaisingTeens @Kateplusmy8 ---- How can Kate possibly teach qualities that she herself doesn't have?
Her Twitter TL has mostly been dead all day, with only a few intrepid fans (a hearty welcome back to Cindy Brown aka Marie!) bothering to post anything at all.
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And wouldn't you know when she did tweet, it was to ask a stupid question?
@MiloandJack: Soon you will have two 16yr olds #BookSmartOffTheChart Your next challenge to teach them #Wisdom #HumbleHeart LOL #RaisingTeens @Kateplusmy8 ---- How can Kate possibly teach qualities that she herself doesn't have?
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Wisdom? Humble heart? Kate? Well, you can't say that Gladys doesn't have a sense of humor!
Oh good grief. Was Milo this batshit crazy when her own kids turned 16, or 18, or whatever? She left additional comments on the IG post:
miloandjack2016 I know this is a special day....realization how time flies & your #BigGirls are indeed growing up! Did you really see this coming? Kinda unbelievable... @kateplusmy8
She's trying to goad Kate into some sort of saccharine, over-the-top sentimentality. I think the initial post with the photo is about as sentimental as Kate's gonna get---after all, this isn't #NookiePookie.
DEPLORABLE Barbie @barbiejeansayre Ida just call she tell me SHE say the pastor ejaculated all the church said it wasn't safe OR soun for em her an Benny over to Evelyn's now
Where is Mrs. Malaprop and the doctor?"
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Disneyworld was ejaculated, too. I guess there was no magic in the Magic Kingdom.
Lynne In RI said... 120 PA Dutch (109): "There are no words, just an LOL!
DEPLORABLE Barbie @barbiejeansayre Ida just call she tell me SHE say the pastor ejaculated all the church said it wasn't safe OR soun for em her an Benny over to Evelyn's now
Where is Mrs. Malaprop and the doctor?"
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Disneyworld was ejaculated, too. I guess there was no magic in the Magic Kingdom.
Admin, how does it usually work in cases like that? If she passes away, does the living parent, Jon, get custody, or if Steve were named as guardian, would Jon have to take Steve to court for custody?
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Custody reverts to the living parent, and I believe in almost all states surviving grandparents then spring forth visitation rights upon the death of their child. Definitely that's how it works in CA, and I've watched a judge have to sort that out when the surviving parent didn't like the grandparents' parenting choices (food, TV, etc) on their bi-weekly visits.
Um, not an expert in French law. However it's common knowledge most first world countries invoke a general right to remain silent, and a quick google search reveals that France does indeed have such a right under the French Code of Criminal Procedure, including a requirement they be read their rights (similar to Miranda rights in the states). Therefore, I stand by my statement KK is under no obligation to stick around and shoot the shit with the French and should leave if she darn well wants to leave because she turns into the next Amanda Knox, who should have done the same while she could.
I wasn't suggesting they should NOT investigate this heinous attack on that woman, you misunderstood my post. I was saying they can't even figure out why they are constant victims of ISIS, God knows if they'll be able to crack this case. In other words, I don't think Kim Kardashian sticking around a couple more days is going to make much of a difference to that mess of a police force. I would have to actually look at all their social media posts in the surrounding couple days before this to see if a layman really could figure out exactly where they were and if they had the crown jewels on them. I don't feel like doing that but I'm sure someone else will.
PA Dutch Mom, it wasn't Kate, but Mady did make a comment she spends a lot of time up in her room by herself.
A kid actively engaged in sports, music, and other activities, simply wouldn't have the time to always be in her room like that.
When I was her age I went to my room to sleep, if that. Often I spent Friday or Saturday night with a friend studying for a test or something then having a sleepover. But I was a kid who always did a sport, was involved in several musical endeavors, a few clubs, and several AP classes each semester, plus a healthy group of friends. There wasn't time to hang around in my room. It was a strange comment for a child who is supposedly a normal and engaged teen as you claim.
Wouldn't she be detailed by the local police to fill out papers, provide descriptions, details of the robbery and/or suspects.
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I think that was an autocorrect and you meant detained. The police shouldn't be detaining people who were just witnesses. It's a good idea to cooperate with their questions or face an obstruction of justice charge, but they have no right to detain you unless they're going to charge you.
According to the media, she DID give her statement. I assume that took at least a few hours. This whole incident only seemed to last a short time. They came in, took the jewels, and tied her up. But I'm not sure how much one could really say about a 5 or 10 minute incident, if that, in more than a couple hours. If they have any more questions as things come up, it's 2016, they can call her.
There is nothing rich people about this at all. This is how a normal investigation goes, especially if she's not a suspect. The police don't "hold" a bunch of witnesses to the crime in a holding room while they figure out if they need anything else from them. That's not how it works nor would most witnesses put up with that nonsense. Nor would a judge. You can't detain people without good cause in most first world countries, France included. As it should be.
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Cara also commented she was so happy it was the weekend so she could sleep for 12 hours- campfire after pumpkin smashing. That's normal for teens and doesn't meant they have no social life. Cara and Mady have that one friend Marley who was in a few episodes and Mady had the girl Kate surprised her with at the gym birthday party and she was angry about it. They had a few friends at the tups' 10th birthday party. So I imagine they have a small circle of friends; don't know about activities but many teens just like to hang out, gossip, go to the mall etc.Activities are better but at least they seem to have some pals.
Admin, how does it usually work in cases like that? If she passes away, does the living parent, Jon, get custody, or if Steve were named as guardian, would Jon have to take Steve to court for custody?
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Custody reverts to the living parent, and I believe in almost all states surviving grandparents then spring forth visitation rights upon the death of their child. Definitely that's how it works in CA, and I've watched a judge have to sort that out when the surviving parent didn't like the grandparents' parenting choices (food, TV, etc) on their bi-weekly visits.
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Thank you, Admin for answering this. This is a subject that I have really been concerned about. I wouldn't put anything past TFW to really do a last gotcha! to Jon.
She has proven over and over again that she is that evil and vindictive over the years.
Not let your son see his dad for 2 years, beat the babies whenever she pleased, control their food, abuse the animals, force them to film when they are hurting or sick. Make them work like fine, farm hands after school.
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Exactly. Mady likes to be in control, like her mama. It was not Marley but a different friend.
It seems Kate can't please the twins recently- remember when she had garden plaques made for them and they rudely rebuffed them and told Kate off, saying they would not be using them? They don't want her as the 'friend' she pretends she is to them which is absolutely normal.They could use a good parent. So it's extra sad they have cut Jon off.
Very sad. Before it got worse, Jon said that he and the twins would go out to eat. You know Jon loved that. But, they got older and more influenced by THEIR TOXIC mother and for Mady to proclaim that her father is toxic and the "infamous- He knows why" is very, very sad.
Not let your son see his dad for 2 years, ****** I don't believe Kate has the power to do this. Jon not seeing his children is on Jon. Unless there's some court order that Jon is prohibited from seeing half his kids, this is something that Jon can do something about.
It's so hard to believe they do all those activities and have as much time as they do for filming. At that age most clubs aren't going to let you miss more than one or two practices or events before they kick you out. This isn't preschool anymore. I guess the idea is trying to teach kids lessons in commitments and all that silly stuff.
Model UN events are often over the weekends. You're telling me that Cara and Mady are on the Model UN team, and that the team is just fine and dandy with them knocking off to film whenever Kate has the whim? If all this is true, I can envision some bitter classmates at all their special treatment.
Didn't Mady specifically say she's not very studious? And yet she's in Model UN representing Belgium or whatever? In my day Model UN was only for the very top students. We didn't take people who openly admit school really isn't their thing.
I certainly don't subscribe to the viewpoint they do NOTHING. As our "regular" locals have said, I have no doubt they do a FEW activities (maybe a sport a year, maybe one club) and have a FEW friends, but I see absolutely no evidence, none, these kids have a normal full extra curricular schedule. Kate's own tweets and those of others prove they are often home and often filming. Kids this age just really aren't HOME much and certainly not as much as Kate has tweeted they are (unless he's lying). With everything else that has been sleuthed out on Twitter, this would have been by now too.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 131 It's so hard to believe they do all those activities and have as much time as they do for filming. At that age most clubs aren't going to let you miss more than one or two practices or events before they kick you out. This isn't preschool anymore. I guess the idea is trying to teach kids lessons in commitments and all that silly stuff ****** There's no way that most (or even some) of the kids is allowed to do organized sports or activities. It's a commitment that would interfere with filming. Heck, Kate cuts into their schooling, so imagine how low priority organized sports or clubs would be for her and her agenda. I just think both Kate and Jon have missed out big time on the really fun and meaningful things that you get to do as a parent, FOR your kids and with your kids. ALL these years of filming on a tight schedule and traveling doesn't hold a candle to the tools, skills and social interaction that kids get by having them interact with their peers. I still remember my years in Brownies and Girl Scout, and all of my dance recitals and sports event, and my parents being there helping me and supporting me, often beaming with joy and pride.
Model UN events are often over the weekends. You're telling me that Cara and Mady are on the Model UN team, and that the team is just fine and dandy with them knocking off to film whenever Kate has the whim? If all this is true, I can envision some bitter classmates at all their special treatment. ***** Again, Kate thinks nothing of canceling the kids visitation time with Jon, so she can make them film. If that's not important... nothing comes before filming. Nothing. Kate makes hay when she can, and as much as she can.
I believe the twins have had outside activities. It's the tups that I believe haven't had to opportunities. The kids loved gymnastics, yet Kate made excuses to not enroll them, which was pathetic. I think the tups get to do stuff through school, and have school friends, but that's about it. When they're home, I think Kate likes to keep them on the compound, and out of her hair.
Tucker's Mom (#135), and we haven't heard boo about any of those 3 boys being involved in a team sport of any kind. And I believe if they were involved, TFW would be more than happy to share that information, since she knows some people claim her boys are treated like second-class citizens. We've never heard her say they just got back from practice or a game, or seen the boys wearing any kind of local team shirt.
We've seen how disenfranchised those boys are. If any or all had a burning desire to play baseball, basketball, soccer, or anything, I can't imagine any of them feeling free to share that desire with their mother. A woman who said the day she found out she was pregnant with them was the worst day of her life.
There wasn't time to hang around in my room. It was a strange comment for a child who is supposedly a normal and engaged teen as you claim.
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I didn't claim anything. If it sounded like I did, then I apologize. I said that it is't true that the twins don't have any outside activities or friends or social life. Nothing more, nothing less. The twitter non-fans make it sound like these kids are penned up in their house on a regular basis with no outside interests or chances to interact with their peers. That is what I said just isn't true, and I never said that the twins are normal teens as we would define "normal," which they clearly are not, thanks to TLC, filming and Kate.
Has Kate said anything about the hours and hours she's spending meticulously crafting each Halloween costume? I don't look at her IG, and she's rarely on Twitter. She should visit one of the local thrift stores here that has one of the largest selections of new and good pre-owned costumes for five dollars. Then again, if she buys the costumes she won't be able to proclaim herself a wonderful mother and how exhaustingish it is doing everything for her kids.
PA Dutch Mom (#142), too bad TFW was fired from Coupon Cabin. She could provide a money saving tip for Halloween: send one of your kids away, so you need to buy fewer costumes.
PA Dutch Mom said... 142 Has Kate said anything about the hours and hours she's spending meticulously crafting each Halloween costume? ____
Halloween is still 3 weeks off. Getting costumes ready for 5 (7? 10? Is she dressing her dogs?) would take planning and focus. And Kate has always struck me as a slap-it-together-the-night-before type. All her protestations to the contrary.
Formerly Duped said... 130 GollyGee said @ 128, Was it because she didn't have a head's up about it?
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Exactly. Mady likes to be in control, like her mama. It was not Marley but a different friend.
It seems Kate can't please the twins recently- remember when she had garden plaques made for them and they rudely rebuffed them and told Kate off, saying they would not be using them? They don't want her as the 'friend' she pretends she is to them which is absolutely normal.They could use a good parent. So it's extra sad they have cut Jon off.
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Oh, I remember the twins being beside themselves with their own personal garden stone. They were really mad.
It really is sad that their relationship with Jon is so messed up and with their mother too. They just can't see that with their mother, yet.
I hope the kids have some activities. I just know it's really hard to be involved if you don't have parental support. It's also hard if you have school, then dinner time, then music practice or sports practice from 7-9pm when you live a long way from school. Some activities happen on school time and a lot don't. Especially as they get older, things are at different hours.
Strange, no birthday greeting from Jon on Instagram. He did one last year. Maybe he is doing it privately or maybe he's pissed and not doing at all. Of course mommy dearest can blast it all over her Instagram. Sad all around.
Tucker's Mom said... 148 Maybe jon is complying with the twins to help them reach out to him. Hope they did. _____
I didn't really read any of the People crap, I did of course see Mady's comment about Jo being toxic. But did Cara actually say anything close to that negative? She really doesn't say much, at least most of the time.
So I put Kate's "real" IG followers at about the 7,000 mark. Because the 16th b'day photo of the twins got a little over 6,500 likes. And if you were a real fan and on that IG TL by choice, why wouldn't you "heart" the Sweet 16 girls? It's sad that Kate felt the need to buy +/-80K followers to pump up her ego. I wonder if she's giving out that inflated number to places like Blue Apron, much as she did with HCI, her cookbook publisher. The first item on their promo package was the breathless "More than 100,000 followers on Twitter," which we all know was very far from true.
My friends mother is an IG celeb with 24k followers. For a variety of reasons I'm virtually certain she did not buy her followers. She posts once every few days averaging about 1k likes per photo and 20 comments. So one in 20 people are liking it. That seems on the low side given her followers, much like Kate. While I have much less followers to compare to, I know they're organic ones, and my ratio is over one out of 10 liking. I think instagram may be fading because I got more than that in the past.
I didn't really read any of the People crap, I did of course see Mady's comment about Jo being toxic. But did Cara actually say anything close to that negative? She really doesn't say much, at least most of the time. ****** I can't recall exactly what Cara said, but she seemed to deflect the question and not elaborate. Mady seemed mad that Jon dare mention her on social media or interviews. As far as I recall, Jon has never divulged more that that he doesn't see them, and nothing close to negative.
Tucker's Mom (#162), I believe M was spouting the party line, and the facts of the situation had little to do with her reaction. I wonder if the kid scored a car for driving the bus over her father.
@FlimsyFlamsy I wonder if she did get a car.Even though Kate hasn't said or posted anything about a car.Unless she of course is filming an episode of them getting a car for their birthday.Although a part of me feels Kate would give a tease comment or tweet where she'd say something like"Can you all guess what i got my girls for their birthday?You'll just have to wait and see ;) #lovemygirls #Bigsurprise."Something like that
FlimsyFlamsy said... 153 Tucker's Mom (#162), I believe M was spouting the party line, and the facts of the situation had little to do with her reaction. I wonder if the kid scored a car for driving the bus over her father. ****** I think you're right about the party line.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago Ok...I bet it has been quite a weekend! #SweetSixteens So WHO drove today? Have they already moved you to passenger seat? :) @Kateplusmy8
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Does Milo think the minute you turn 16 you can just hop into the driver's seat and off you go? They first must take a written exam to get the permit! The DMV is not open on a Sunday!
Does Milo think the minute you turn 16 you can just hop into the driver's seat and off you go? They first must take a written exam to get the permit! The DMV is not open on a Sunday!
_________________ This will be Milo's new obsession -- the driving thing. She will milk this like she did the Grow-A-Boyfriend, squats, lesbian-preacher deck, Vann, Kate's puppies, and platitudes.
I got a Retail-Me-Not email today and the first company was the famous pretzels, Auntie Anne's!
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Oh, great. Now I have a craving for a cheese pretzel dog. Anne Beiler had her humble beginnings right here in PA, and the company is based in our old post office building in downtown Lancaster.
Where is our Auntie Ann? Has anyone heard anything? I miss her and think about her every time I drive past corporate headquarters.
I don't believe Kate has the power to do this. Jon not seeing his children is on Jon. Unless there's some court order that Jon is prohibited from seeing half his kids, this is something that Jon can do something about
This statement needs to be reposted daily here. Jon's relationship with his kids is on him.
Sorry Milo, but the girls will have to wait a bit longer. The twins will only be able to get a Jr. license (in 6 months) and won't get an unrestricted license until 18.
Licensing & State Laws - Pennsylvania - AAA.com teendriving.aaa.com › Home › Supervised Driving At age 16 and 6 months, a teen may obtain a junior license after having held a learner's permit for at least 6 months. The teen must make a road test appointment (done online at www.dmv.state.pa.us or by calling 1-800-423-5542). With a junior license, teens may drive unsupervised between 5 a.m. and 11 p.m.
But do today's generation even care that much about getting their driving license? It was different for us (I'm in my early forties). WE didn't have phones, internet, etc., so a license meant freedom to hang with our friends. Most young people I know are not even interested in getting their license until they are well into their 20's. Milo is out of touch.
Sorry Milo, but the girls will have to wait a bit longer. The twins will only be able to get a Jr. license (in 6 months) and won't get an unrestricted license until 18.
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So for the next six months Milo will be hooked on this driving thing, pestering Kate about the learner's permit, junior license, etc. etc., and for the next two years until they get their unrestricted license. Egads. I hope Kate ignores her.
Jon finally uploaded an old picture of Mady and Cara and said happy birthday to them on IG.In a comment he said he didn't want to upload it because of controversy which i don't blame him.Last year he uploaded the same picture and one of the tabloids did a story of him uploading the picture for some reason.Because of the comments by the twins i wouldn't be shocked if he'd uploaded it on their birthday,there would be a story somewhere along the line of"Jon Gosselin uploads picture of twins daughters despite their outrage."and of course someone like Milo would claim he's doing it for attention. https://www.instagram.com/p/BLYzen0g-pp/?taken-by=jongosselin1
Does Milo think the minute you turn 16 you can just hop into the driver's seat and off you go? They first must take a written exam to get the permit! The DMV is not open on a Sunday!
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She's either that dumb, or she posted this to get a response out of Kate. Or both.
It appears that Jon forgot about Cara and Mady's birthday. Who's to say whether he did or didn't. If he didn't want controversy, he should have found another way to wish Happy Birthday to his girls. I'm not surprised that an article was posted.
It appears that Jon forgot about Cara and Mady's birthday. Who's to say whether he did or didn't. If he didn't want controversy, he should have found another way to wish Happy Birthday to his girls ****** Are you kidding me? I'd sooner believe that aliens are attending Dessert Trip than Jon forgetting that his beloved twin turned 16. C'mon.
Maybe Jon was waiting for permission from the girls to post birthday wishes. Heaven forbid he should offend them. Or maybe he just didn't get around to informing the fans he wishes them a happy birthday, which is hardly the same thing as forgetting the birthday with the actually birthday girls.
It's a no win for Jon concerning the ridiculous birthday wishes on IG. He's their father for godsakes, not some fan. He shouldn't have to give them a birthday shoutout on an internet social site. What matters is what he did in person. At the same time if the twins, or one of the twins, refused to accept his birthday wishes and possible gifts in person then that is on them/her. Not him.
This could be why Jon is afraid to get the cops to get his kids. I DON'T BLAME HIM! With a wacko like Kate you never know. Watch it. some things are close to word for word. It's spooky.
GollyGee (#182), that was M. And TFW said in the VO that M still responds to her father like when she was very little -- something like, "She still sees stars." All the brainwashing in the world can't take away the actual loving bond that existed between Jon and the twins. It wasn't imaginary -- we witnessed that warmth and tenderness with our own eyes. And I hope at some point this rift is healed -- sooner rather than later.
Many regs here are familiar with my cat story. I adopted two rescues, only to have the one deliver a litter in the guest room. Fantine and Cosette are doing fine and I found homes for the kittens. My rescues are strictly indoor cats now, only to go outside for grooming and vet trips.
Today I was looking out the kitchen window, and one of the dogs was whining and wagging her tail, standing in front of the French doors that lead to the deck. There was a big orange cat with his or her nose against the glass wanting to come in. I think it was either the mother or father of one of my rescues.
I thought...oh, no. Not again. What is it with me? Am I a cat magnet? Geese fly south for the winter; neighborhood strays round up their friends and say, "Hey, this crazy cat lady provides food and shelter. Follow us."
Are you kidding me? I'd sooner believe that aliens are attending Dessert Trip than Jon forgetting that his beloved twin turned 16. C'mon.
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Exactly. Not everything in life is done on social media, thank goodness. What a world this would be if all of our lives were put out there for others to scrutinize and criticize. My word.
He could of had just a clip of was it Mady or Cara that RAN like the wind to see Jon when she got off the bus at the E-town house?
And find a clip with Cara.
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Why would he need to do this? For the benefit of the tabloids and media? For his critics? For his defenders? Come on. He was under no obligation to look for clips, nor make anything public. He did't need to find a video of anyone or anything.
'Nother lil #NookiePookie video on IG tonight. And Gladys is all over it. "Oh Kate. . . ." Oh Miss Crabtree.
kateplusmy8 Guess who likes the car?! She jumped right up into the passenger seat as soon as Cara got out! Silly girl! #Nanuq #Almost6MonthsOldAlready
miloandjack2016 Oh Kate...crazy how we talk to our #FurBabies! LOL. I think maybe #Nanuq just WANTS to be w/you? And seems she loves to ride now? @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 I do the same...talk w/my dogs just like the kids! And you will be amazed at how much they learn from our convos w/them! Cute watching #Nanuq respond to you your voice! ❤ @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 LOL-ing at the "wanna go byebye" part! You sound just like ME...minus my southern accent! 😋
kateplusmy8 Guess who likes the car?! She jumped right up into the passenger seat as soon as Cara got out! Silly girl! #Nanuq #Almost6MonthsOldAlready ======== So was #NookiePookie traveling in the back of the car and just moved to the front seat or are the puppies roaming the property like Shoka and not restrained when vehicles are around. Since she said "when Cara got out did you get in" I think it may be the latter. On the other hand, the dog didn't seem that excited to "go bye bye" so it may be just another staged reality by TFW.
There was a time when I swear, I was a lost dog magnet! I hope little orange kitty has a home already. I wonder if it came around because it got really cold. Brrrrrr!
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Tucker's Mom said... 195
I too am deeply concerned about Mady and the other female child.
At the age of 12 until 15 years old I tried to kill myself. I thought that there was something wrong with me. Why couldn't my Mother love me?
It wasn't until my last attempt when the Doctors didn't think that I was going to survive that my Mother finally called my Father. Thank God that I was not successful in taking my life. At the time I was angry, but clearly God had his own plans for me.
My Father took me home to his house and immediately got me in to counseling. My Mother was so infuriated that she did not talk to me for almost three months.
After going to counseling I realized that my Mother was afraid of being exposed. It had nothing to do with me. It had everything to do with my Mother. My Mother was emotionally handicapped!
I continued going to counseling for over 2 years, three times a week and then twice a week. I learned so much that I was able to help my siblings.
None of us ever stopped loving our Mother. We were always respectful and almost felt sorry for her. How sad that she was not able to love the way that we loved. I still grieve for my Mother.
My Mother was always to busy trying to prove to the world how great of a Mother she was that she forgot what was really important. She never had time to enjoy the gifts (children) and grandchildren that she had been blessed with. As I said before, my Mother reminds me so much of Kate and that is why I fear for the 8.
We have been so blessed! Our Father and Stepmother have always been there for us and it is a tribute to them both that we have all been successful in life, in our marriages and careers. Fortunately, we all learned from our Mother what we didn't want in life.
The 8 don't have their Father or extended family to love and encourage them.
Our Father or Stepmother NEVER said a hateful word against our Mother, nor would they allow us to.
The most important thing that we have all learned from our childhood is to NEVER abuse the most precious gift that God has given us, OUR CHILDREN and FAMILY.
OT, from a church lady:
GOD'S GAL DARLENE @bigbrotherdar 8h8 hours ago
Love my new feesh tank got me some a them oriental KOYS. Crack my but up how they fight n carry on
I know nothing about Koi, but don't they require large ponds to thrive? Can they be kept in tanks?
Just curious...!
Allegedly, one of the nannies who quit said that Kate took one of the boys into the bathroom to spank him HARD, so the crew didn't see it.
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Nothing would surprise me when it comes to her disciplining the kids, but does that mean that she beat them to perform? Maybe he misbehaved, mouthed off to her, or hit one of his siblings.
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By the way, whatever happened to Lauren the bus driver?
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She spends most of her time Duggar-bashing these days. I know, right? To me, they're all pretty much the same. Keep that gravy train going no matter who or how many it takes out on its way to fame and fortune.
It's funny how TFW's number of followers on Instagram keeps going up but the number of "likes" and comments remains the same. If I didn't know better I'd think she was buying followers. 😏
NJGal51 (#4), c'mon now, it's that kind of cynicism that's gotten us dubbed a "cesspool of hate."
Oh, and I agree with you 100%.
None of us ever stopped loving our Mother. We were always respectful and almost felt sorry for her. How sad that she was not able to love the way that we loved. I still grieve for my Mother.
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That, right there. That's how you know you're not like your mother or like Kate. You have empathy and an ability to feel. I imagine your mother had a very shallow existence.
I'm so glad you survived and thrived.
Thank you for sharing such a painful story.
The world is better place for having you in it!
Someone posted about TFW hitting the kids while filming.
The following text was taken from an article that was published in The National Enquirer on June 22, 2009.
Kate Gosselin, her Network family, and her followers dismissed it as a crazy pack of lies from a disgruntled, former Gosselin employee, just as they always dismissed every negative story that any tabloid ever wrote about Kate.
“An ex-staffer of Kate Gosselin, who worked for the Gosselins for more than a year before recently resigning, claims they have witnessed Kate using corporal punishment on the couple’s 8-year-old twins and 5-year-old sextuplets.
“When one of the boys closed a door on another one once, Kate got in their faces and yelled, “You tell me the truth about what happened!” “The children just stood there terrified. Then she dragged one of the boys into the bathroom and spanked him five or six times with a large plastic spoon.”
“You could hear Kate forcefully whacking the child and the child screaming at the top of his lungs. People told me it happened more than once, but it was off-camera because Kate didn’t want it in the show.”
Now read this quote from Kate Gosselin about how “real” her show is, and how they don’t hide anything from you – the viewer: “We know we're doing the best for our family, and I'm sorry if you're unhappy. How about that? I'm not always happy with what you see (on the show), nor is Jon. But we are certainly not going to hide our imperfections.” - Kate Gosselin
The problem with Kate’s statement is that she did, indeed, make every effort possible to hide the forceful spanking and physical “disciplining” of her children.
I don’t recall ever seeing Kate smacking any of her children around on her TV shows, but her writings tell us it most definitely happened.
The 8 don't have their Father or extended family to love and encourage them.
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The isolation is profound. Outside of school, Kate keeps them as close as possible. I think Kate is a very, very insecure woman and her control over her kids would be compromised if she let her kids become involved to any great degree in anything else besides the compound and filming.
September 2006
Joel had gotten out of his crib at nap time, I guess because he wasn’t tired anymore. Kate heard him getting into drawers so she went upstairs and spanked him and put him back in his crib.
After the designated naptime was officially over, Kate made Joel stay in his crib while everyone else got to go downstairs. She wants him to know how serious she is about naptime and that she will not tolerate crib climbing!!!!!
She says she hopes he got the message but isn’t sure because of the glazy look in his eyes when she talks to him!!!!!
October 2006
Four little toddlers in diapers got into the tissue box on Grandma’s desk AGAIN. Kate says they did it yesterday as well and she spanked all six of them and put them in the corner.
I think TFW left the box of Kleenex in the toddlers reach on Grandma's old desk (instead of putting them out of reach like a normal person would) on purpose because she knew they would get into them and that gave her the opportunity to punish them hard and to achieve her goal of breaking them, their spirit, so she could have complete control over them, ALL!
She said her dad was very, very strict on discipline, so she is just continuing the cycle of abuse or whoever abused her as a child.
What is she going to do when she tries to pick up one of the boys to hang them upside down and try to push their face in Nanqu's or Max's steaming dog pile on her tile or carpeted floor?
She might get pushed back.
Reminds me of the LHOTP episode when the bully, played by Michael Landon's son, who now does the Hallmark movies, Mary swung her lunch pail, knocked him down and started pounding on him. Laura ran over to help, but he got up and pushed Laura down. Then Mary was hitting and then they show the kids whispering to each other and then they all throw down their books and dog pile on the bully and beat the fire out of him!
He then apologized to Miss Beadle.
Her day is coming.
@Sad but true (4) As usual,Lauren can't see her own hypocrisy like most of Kate's supporters.Here she claims no one would know who the teen mom girls were if they didn't get knocked up at 16 and yet no one would know Kate if she never had the 6. Lauren @ljohnson2006 Sep 30
No one would know who the #TeenMom2 and #TeenMomOG girls were if MTV hadn't praised them for getting knocked up at 16
“When one of the boys closed a door on another one once, Kate got in their faces and yelled, “You tell me the truth about what happened!” “The children just stood there terrified. Then she dragged one of the boys into the bathroom and spanked him five or six times with a large plastic spoon.”
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That sounds EXACTLY like Kate. We've seen Kate scream and lose it when she wants her kids to fess up or snitch on who did something as small as removing a knob pull.
I believe this story 100%. Kate took glee in the fact that she had backup "spankers" and kept them in her car so she could strike her kids wherever she was.
Forgot to add: "We don't hit!"
@MiloandJack: Soon you will have two 16yr olds #BookSmartOffTheChart Your next challenge to teach them #Wisdom #HumbleHeart LOL #RaisingTeens @Kateplusmy8
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Now how does Milo know that they're "book smart off the chart"? Does TFW share their report cards with her? Oh, that's right, in the Gospel According To Kate (which was handed down in stone to Milo), all of the kids are at the top of their classes.
Anyone in Matthew's path, please stay safe. We're far enough north that it shouldn't even be a blip, unless it jogs off the current path.
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September 2006...
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GollyGee, are these your comments about what you've read somewhere or are they quotes from an article or maybe Robert's book? Thanks!
NJGal51 (#14), and it's also yet another inadvertent shot at TFW from Gladys. Is she saying the twins, at 16, still need to be taught to have humble hearts? Since TFW claims she's doing all this alone, it sounds like she's really dropped the ball on that one.
I echo Tucker's Mom's thoughts - all those in Matthew's stormy path stay safe (and dry).
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I don’t recall ever seeing Kate smacking any of her children around on her TV shows, but her writings tell us it most definitely happened.
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I always said if you looked closely, you could see stuff that clearly pointed towards the kids being smacked. Kids doing something wrong-camera cut-kid suddenly crying hysterically and RUNNING(I vivivdly remember 2 year old Collin literally running) towards the corner. Sometimes Kate had some object in her hand, I assume when she wasn't hitting them with her hand, she used whatever was in her hand.
The most despicable thing though, is that they did that whole episode called "Discipline" and talked about how the sole form of discipline in the house is time out(they even asked the kids and they all replied at once, like trained monkeys "time out").
In another episode, a Q&A, one viewer asked how J&K got the kids to just go to the corner, even when young and Kate said something like "Oh, they just do. we tell them to go and they do it". It seems especially heartbreaking when you now know WHY the 2 year olds were in a rush to get to the corner, doesn't it?
I vividly remember one incident, when they were very young, at the beginning of the show where Collin bites Aaden and when Kate yells "Collin!" you can see Collin's horror(he is TWO at this point) and he steps a bit backwards and his hands are fidgety, he's doing this thing with his hands that you usually see older kids or adults do when they are extremely nervous or panicky you can tell he is extremely anxious. Again, hearbreaking since now we know what he was enduring off camera.
I'll see if I can find a link to the clip.
Yes, if you're in Matthew's patch stay safe and dry.
I remember Aaden aged two doing the same, crying and running to the corner, hands to his bottom as if expecting a swat. Also I recall Hannah being a little secretive recently when asked what happens if they do something wrong after 3 warnings or something like that. So penalty of severeness may occur to this day IMO.And being sworn to secrecy.
RoxyHelen (#20), and how about C's famous "happy dance," when Inspector Gadget ceased her interrogation about the drawer knob? Many of us saw that as an outlet of his relief that he didn't get a beating. I can still hear her anger when they said they didn't do it: "Well, SOMEBODY did it, because I'm HOLDING it!" She wasn't holding broken pieces of a Ming vase. It. Was. A. Knob.
Formerly Duped I believe that Aaden incident was over him biting Collin, outside. Kate makes Aaden apologies and then sends him to time out. She had the same object(paper roll?) in her hand as during the Collin incident(which presumably happened a different day) which I find suspicious. She was clearly using that thing to hit the kids.
What is she going to do when she tries to pick up one of the boys to hang them upside down and try to push their face in Nanqu's or Max's steaming dog pile on her tile or carpeted floor?
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Who did she hang upside down?
"I think TFW left the box of Kleenex in the toddlers reach on Grandma's old desk (instead of putting them out of reach like a normal person would) on purpose because she knew they would get into them and that gave her the opportunity to punish them hard and to achieve her goal of breaking them, their spirit, so she could have complete control over them, ALL!"
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Huh? Where is this coming from? Robert? Golly? This is a stretch. I seriously doubt that Kate, who no doubt is lazy, would actually want the kids to make a mess. She'd have to clean it up and I just can't see her doing that for any reason.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 6h6 hours ago
You "SAME 24/7" haters of @Kateplusmy8 are nothing but a bunch of harassing & nosy ass busy bodies in Kate's business you know NOTHING about
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Then what does this make Milo? She isn't called Gladys Kravitz for nothing! :)
The sheep just don't get it. They just don't, and that's what is sad. They can't see outside their own little box.
Sherri and RainbowsandUnicorns, everypost I put is from Robert's book.
Why would TFW intentionally put the Kleenex back where it was before after the babies got into it, made a mess and she had a mega meltdown about it?
Put the Kleenex out of their reach. Just that simple. They won't be able to make another mess.
She thrives on breaking them down and breaking their spirit. It gives her a mega dose of power and control. She I put nothing past her.
They just said on the Weather Channel that in some places, people would not even be able to live for months or years. It is that bad.
Praying they are wrong.
Everyone stay safe!
Sherri and RainbowsandUnicorns, everypost I put is from Robert's book.
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Robert posted that Kate intentionally left the tissue box on the desk so that the children would make a mess? I don't remember reading that, but there are parts that I skipped; specifically the animal abuse section.
@rainbowsandunicorns I thought Goody said she has the haters blocked?Funny she always talking about the haters harassing Kate and yet all she ever does is whine about the Kate haters.
No, Robert didn't say that she intentionally put the box of tissues out. This is what he wrote that she wrote in her journal.
October 2006
Four little toddlers in diapers got into the tissue box on Grandma’s desk AGAIN. Kate says they did it yesterday as well and she spanked all six of them and put them in the corner.
Then why would you put the box of Kleenex back in the same place so the babies could get into it, make a mess, spank them all hard, make them all go into the corner.
That takes a lot of energy to do.
Scream, melt down, whip your kids, put them all into the corner and clean up the mess. And she had just done this the day before! So, why would you let it happen again?
Barbie Jean tweets:
"Verna Johns dead......staff affection she got from feeding homeless down to the MEESHIN. Rick Pullman call early told me services MONDAY"
"One can die by having a fondness for a member of a staff? Who would have thought it?
Is "MEESHIN" mission?
"Ida Kravitz call from down to FLORIDA say they seen the hurricane come n all ride n it out at the church together in hes NAME"
Milo has a relative in Florida?
@rainbowsandunicorns I thought Goody said she has the haters blocked?Funny she always talking about the haters harassing Kate and yet all she ever does is whine about the Kate haters.
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I know nothing about Twitter, but even if she has them blocked, can't she go to Kate's TL and read the tweets? I don't have Twitter and that's how I see all the tweets.
I don't believe Kate left the tissues there on purpose to break the kids. She seems profoundly unaware of how children's minds work. Most of us would move the tissue box. She really seems to think that they learned from yesterday's beating not to touch the tissues. You have to get down on their level, tell them why they were wrong, have them apologize, then move the damned tissues. They will learn this lesson after 10 or 12 or 15 repetitions. They're tissues. Sure they cost a few bucks but there's no danger. Kate thinks they connected the beating with the tissues and won't do it again. They're toddlers and brains are still developing. You can see it again and again in Kate's journal. She expected them to reason and think and choose like 20 yr olds.
No, Robert didn't say that she intentionally put the box of tissues out. This is what he wrote that she wrote in her journal.
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I'm confused (not the first time). In post 27, you said that everything you post is from Robert's book. Now you are saying it's not from Robert's book.
I think I need a double shot of something. Anything.
I'm confused (not the first time). In post 27, you said that everything you post is from Robert's book. Now you are saying it's not from Robert's book.
I think I need a double shot of something. Anything.
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Ditto here. I'm not sure what is straight from Robert's book, what is being paraphrased, what Kate wrote in her journal, or what is speculation/opinion.
I'll take a triple, please! lol!
It's helpful to put quotation marks around what a person said, whether it's something found in an article/book, or something someone has said in an interview, etc. If one is merely interpreting or speculating on what someone said, no quotation marks are necessary, of course.
It's from Robert's book.
I start my post: Then why would you put the box of Kleenex...
I need a shot of something too. Reading all of the abuse she put those kids through calls for a drink! Sloe Gin anyone?
Yes, we knew this was coming.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/burke-ramsey-files-150-million-defamation-lawsuit-w443801
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/burke-ramsey-files-150-million-defamation-lawsuit-w443801Sks
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Did Spitz come right out and say that Burke committed the murder, or was it a theory/his opinion that Burke could have killed his sister? I only watched bits and pieces of the show.
It would seem to me that if Burke were in any way involved in this that he wouldn't want to open up this can of worms where he would be subject to discovery/depositions and the like. Wouldn't he have a whole lot of 'splaining to do?
Reading all of the abuse she put those kids through calls for a drink! Sloe Gin anyone?
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I'm not moving very fast tonight. Make it a slow gin.
They're toddlers and brains are still developing. You can see it again and again in Kate's journal. She expected them to reason and think and choose like 20 yr olds.
October 6, 2016 at 7:24 PM
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Right down to expecting apologies from 2-3 year olds was odd.
Kate was profoundly either willfully ignorant of child development and how to deal with their behaviors, or just plain mean.
Dogs are much like 2-year olds. If they have a tendency to grab something like food where they can reach it, you move the food. You don't get mad at your lab because you found that she helped herself to the flatbread (you were going to make pizza with!) on the counter and shared it with your bichon, as you catch them 3/4 of the way through it!
Yup, that happened ;-)
Did Spitz come right out and say that Burke committed the murder, or was it a theory/his opinion that Burke could have killed his sister? I only watched bits and pieces of the show.
It would seem to me that if Burke were in any way involved in this that he wouldn't want to open up this can of worms where he would be subject to discovery/depositions and the like. Wouldn't he have a whole lot of 'splaining to do?
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I don't recall if anyone said, "Burke definitely did it", but there's no doubt they thought it was Burke.
The "experts" were certainly minding themselves and guarding their language as to not come out and say Burke is guilty, yet everything they were presenting pointed to Burke.
If I were Burke, I would feel slandered. Whether that special meets the definition, I don't know.
Tucker's Mom (#42), I do hope you managed to extract an apology from your dogs. And I assume you vehemently asserted that you are in charge, and that's never gonna change.
Only 7 months until TFW has 7 teenagers under her roof (or 8, if the one she shipped out comes back). Tick tock...
I watched the CBS documentary and it is my recollection that Dr. Spitz expressed his "theory" that Burke was responsible for Jon Benet's death. Not sure if that meets the standard for slander.
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According to TMZ, he's actually being sued for comments he made on a radio show around the time the CBS program aired. Lin Wood affirmed that they are going after CBS as well, but this is separate.
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Dogs are much like 2-year olds. If they have a tendency to grab something like food where they can reach it, you move the food. You don't get mad at your lab because you found that she helped herself to the flatbread (you were going to make pizza with!) on the counter and shared it with your bichon, as you catch them 3/4 of the way through it!
Yup, that happened ;-)
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But, but, but, you didn't grab the nearest PVC pipe, wooden spoon and go to town on your poor pup after you toss him into his bedding? Screaming? Because he ate the flat bread?
I know you didn't do any such thing.
But TFW does. She is a child abuser and an animal abuser.
You can tell you love your fur babies so much from the years of reading this blog! This world needs more people like you and the other animal lovers on this blog that treat their animals with love and compassion. And actually take them to the vet when they get sick and PAY the bill.
When you google her name, the pictures of Aaden in the puppy cage, Jon, DJ'ing and her with her earrings swinging are finally way down the line.
I know it is old news, but she is "devastated" that Jeff dumped her. The only reason why she is "devastated" is because of the money that she won't get for filming new episodes with Jeff built on Lies.
But, on the other hand, she gathers the remaining children at the compound and has a photo shoot with People with that horrible smug grin on her face and talks about Colin's medical crisis on a national magazine cover.
She never says the word "devastated" in the article. A normal mother would be beside herself, stopping filming, getting him help, devoting herself to him getting better. In fact, a normal mother wouldn't be filming.
The bottom line is what she is devoted to.
It's over! Kate Plus 8's Kate Gosselin, 40, is 'devastated' millionaire beau Jeff Prescott has 'dumped' her for blonde beauty, 26
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3237499/Kate-Gosselin-40-devastated-millionaire-beau-Jeff-Prescott-dumped-blonde-beauty-26.html#ixzz4MPG2tfkK
It's from Robert's book.
I start my post: Then why would you put the box of Kleenex...
I need a shot of something too. Reading all of the abuse she put those kids through calls for a drink! Sloe Gin anyone?
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The second version Robert released he had to paraphrase Kate's exact words, which is why it is confusing coming from Golly Gee. She just didn't explain it in a way people can understand.
It is FROM Kate's journal-he just couldn't use all of HER words after SHE copyrighted the material.
Since GG makes up her own scenarios from time to time, it is hard to know what is from HER mind and made up to what is coming from Kate/Robert. Scary, but I followed her this time and I haven't had Sloe Gin since I was in highschool. Is that the cherry flavored stuff? I got sooooo sick from that once and never drank again.
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Rainbowsandunicorns (33) To answer your question,she can only see them if she logs out of her account and looks at her TL not logged in.If she's on her account,she can't see tweets from people who she has blocked.So,if she can't see the haters tweet then its not really harassment.
Kate is dumber than a box of hair. She knows that the media picks at her and tabs will come out with stories about her being a Monster Mom, so why on God's green earth would she post a picture of her son in a dog cage? Did she think it was cute? Kate, before you do this, think about these pictures, what the repercussions could be, and then don't do it!
She still hasn't learned, has she?
I'm pretty sure the guy made it clear it was his theory, though one he believed in whole heartedly and the only one that made sense to him. He also pointed out errors in the investigation that could have cleared up some weaker points in his theory. I don't see that Burke has a case though I do understand why this is very upsetting. This might be a case of first impression. Whether you have a first amendment right to accuse people of this or that as long as you cover it under a "theory."
Is the guy being sued over his podcast? I love it and they're still making new episodes about the Ramsey case.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 53
This is what TMZ posted:
"Burke Ramsey filed the suit against Dr. Werner Spitz, but not for his comments on the CBS special, "The Case of: JonBenet Ramsey." Instead, Burke is going after the doctor for a radio interview he did with CBS Detroit ... in which Spitz said, "It's the boy who did it [killed JonBenet], whether he was jealous, or mentally unfit or something ... I don't know of the why, I'm not a psychiatrist, but what I am sure about is what I know about him, that is what happened here."
Serendipity said... 51
Kate is dumber than a box of hair. She knows that the media picks at her and tabs will come out with stories about her being a Monster Mom, so why on God's green earth would she post a picture of her son in a dog cage?
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Kate is either unaware of how corrosive her behavior is, or she just doesn't care.
But, but, but, you didn't grab the nearest PVC pipe, wooden spoon and go to town on your poor pup after you toss him into his bedding? Screaming? Because he ate the flat bread?
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The only thing I do is give a loud, "eh eh", and it's done. It gets their attention, stops the behavior, then I can take what's left of the flatbread or whatever is they have, so I can get it away from them or have them stop whatever it is I don't want them to continue doing.
No spanking or yelling or punishment.
I interrupt, then move on pleasantly.
Again, at the end of the day, that flatbread should have been out of reach.
My fault completely.
Our lab is getting a lot better with her counter surfing, but I don't think she'll be one of those dogs I can totally trust.
Won't be leaving the Thanksgiving turkey unattended ;-)
http://www.perspectivabetica.com/2016/10/06/kate-gosselins-reality-tv-dream-continues-on-despite-the/
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But, but, but, you didn't grab the nearest PVC pipe, wooden spoon and go to town on your poor pup after you toss him into his bedding? Screaming? Because he ate the flat bread?
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GollyGee, I don't remember a reference to a PVC pipe that Kate used or threatened to use on the dog or kids. Was that in Robert's book? It's been quite a while since I read the book and am probably just not remembering.
How will Burke prove that Dr. Spitz' statement is false? I'm not sure, but I thought in order to win Burke will have to 'prove' that he didn't kill Jon Benet. This could be very interesting because, if I remember correctly, the blow to the head did not kill her. The autopsy report was that she died as a result of strangulation caused by the garrote many people believe was applied by the father, John Ramsey.
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The upcoming TV movie on the Ramsey cases focuses on Patsy as the prime suspect I believe.
Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
Burke's case will likely hinge on whether he is a public figure or not, or perhaps a limited public figure i.e. someone famous in a very narrow area but not otherwise famous. It could get complicated. There's a fair argument he is indeed a private figure because he has been very quiet for the vast majority of his life and I don't think a lot of people would recognize him or even recognize his name. True Crime nerds remember this case way more than the average person.
GollyGee, I don't remember a reference to a PVC pipe that Kate used or threatened to use on the dog or kids. Was that in Robert's book? It's been quite a while since I read the book and am probably just not remembering.
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Golly Gee was just kidding using hyperbole. I knew what she meant ;-)
I was actually thinking the opposite of BM, that it would be very easy for Burke to prove in fact he was NOT the murderer, as he was never even charged with the murder let alone convicted. In the case file Burke has been ruled out and the crime is labeled unsolved.
He may very well have been the murderer but what matters is if the courts say you are.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 61
Burke's case will likely hinge on whether he is a public figure or not, or perhaps a limited public figure i.e. someone famous in a very narrow area but not otherwise famous. It could get complicated
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Interesting to think about how this applies to the Gosselin kids. They are public figures, but not of their own choosing.
I wonder what their rights will be when and if they choose to become private citizens.
At this point, I don't consider them private kids just going about their business. I think they are reality tv stars and very much in the public domain.
Thanks to Kate.
Thank you, Tucker's! :)
GollyGee said... 61
Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
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And she's back on IG tonight, a photo of Shoka (The Forgotten Dog) for a change:
kateplusmy8 All ready for fall.....🍂🍁🍂! #Shoka
jamiepumpkin3 "Wuv"my Shoka Lou!
Isn't he named Shoka Joe? Whatever.
How will Burke prove that Dr. Spitz' statement is false? I'm not sure, but I thought in order to win Burke will have to 'prove' that he didn't kill Jon Benet. This could be very interesting because, if I remember correctly, the blow to the head did not kill her. The autopsy report was that she died as a result of strangulation caused by the garrote many people believe was applied by the father, John Ramsey.
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Exactly. A lawsuit could backfire, big time. I wouldn't touch that thing with a 10-foot pole. I'd just walk away, knowing that in time people will move on. There have always been speculations and theories about who did it, and Burke was on the short list of possible perps. Why drag it all up now? Nope...I'd just let it die down. It will in time.
Milo was late to tonight's party, but compensates by being extra annoying:
miloandjack2016 The #RegalKingShoka in all his glory! Now that just makes a house look like HOME! #Guard Duty #OfficialGreeter. Has he just come from the groomer? He poses so well! @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 Haha....he kind of has that posture...pose...of the ancient castle entrances that were guarded by statutes of LIONS on each side! #KingShoka. 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 You have been kind of quiet about tomorrows significance? Are you in #MomDenial? #TheyCantBeThisGrown? #SweetSixteenTimesTwo #TimeMarchesOn. ❤ @kateplusmy8
#MomDenial? Yes, about so many things, but I doubt her kids' b'day.
Tucker's Mom said... 56
Our lab is getting a lot better with her counter surfing, but I don't think she'll be one of those dogs I can totally trust.
Won't be leaving the Thanksgiving turkey unattended ;-)
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Make sure to tell us how it goes with that Christmas turkey. Which always brings to mind that scene in A Christmas Story with the neighbours dogs.
Milo was late to tonight's party, but compensates by being extra annoying
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She's making sure that everyone knows about the twins birthday, both on twitter and IG:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 29m
Soon 2teens will be #YoungAdults! #SweetSixteen! From my #MomsOldVinyls #EyeRolls permitted! LOL ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5CUfVm1Si8 … @kateplusmy8
The youtube video is Neil Sedaka's "Happy Birthday Sweet 16".
The she gets a little snotty to one commentor on IG:
missmoan2So many compliments about missing the show. So many questions about when the show will start again. Never an answer. Why?
miloandjack2016Umm...I believe it was her last #IG post where she DID ANSWER that full season of NEW episodes were moved up to January. She also tweeted that. Long time to wait...but well worth it! 😃 @missmoan2
Umm...Milo? When did Kate tweet that? I don't consider Kate's retweet of a tweet by you as being Kate tweeting it herself.
Sad but true (#70), another picture perfect fantasy about the G household from Gladys. No mention of the son who is far away, and how he might be missed.
miloandjack2016Umm...I believe it was her last #IG post where she DID ANSWER that full season of NEW episodes were moved up to January.
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Yeah that would be PUSHED BACK until January of next year.
Not verified by TLC.
Make sure to tell us how it goes with that Christmas turkey. Which always brings to mind that scene in A Christmas Story with the neighbours dogs.
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Fa Ra Ra Ra Ra...
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I know Flimsy, sad isn't it?
Just watched the first pitch of Shark Tank. 2 sisters, wearing bathing suits, pitched Mom Bathing Suits. Barbara asked if they had went through a journey so she could see if they could tough it out if she invested.
The mom broke down in tears and told about her son who was diagnosed with ADHD, learning and writing disorder. She put everything on hold and her and her husband worked on him to get him better. They took him to regular school, helped him and in about a year he was reading above grade level.
Barbara talked about her daughter and her struggles. As busy as she is, she said, when she came home after work, she spent an hour and a half with her and helped her.
It is so shameful and disgusting that TFW would send Colin far away, announce on a People cover about Colin's medical crisis with his siblings and her smug face, then puppypaloosa love fest with the 2 pups and now she has dragged poor Shoka into her scam.
God doesn't like ugly and causing little ones to stumble. Her day is coming.
GollyGee said... 61
Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
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Kate is one brick short of a load, but I doubt that even she would walk around with a PVC pipe. Why even bring it up?
It is so shameful and disgusting that TFW would send Colin far away, announce on a People cover about Colin's medical crisis with his siblings and her smug face, then puppypaloosa love fest with the 2 pups and now she has dragged poor Shoka into her scam.
God doesn't like ugly and causing little ones to stumble. Her day is coming.
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Does anyone know exactly the extent of Collin's issues? Is he far away? Has it been reported where he is?
It could be something much more serious than attention deficit or a learning disability. If so, it's possible that Kate isn't trained to deal with it, she doesn't know how to help him, and staying with her and her ineptness could be detrimental to a positive outcome. I hope he is at the best place he can be and is getting the professional help he needs. Kate certainly isn't a trained therapist.
That said, putting Collin out there for publicity reasons and the People interview was despicable. There was no reason for it.
There's this one person on Kate's IG who's always asking where Nala is. Tonight Barb Gilmer (Kate's former Twitter secretary) answered thusly:
barbgilmer1@t_brianaa Nala is with a family that I think Kate said they still go and see, @kateplusmy8
Does anyone believe that Kate actually has gone to visit this dog? Like, ever?
NEW episodes were moved up to January.
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But she never said which year!
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GollyGee said... 61
Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
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Kate is one brick short of a load, but I doubt that even she would walk around with a PVC pipe. Why even bring it up?
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There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it.
Kate is one brick short of a load, but I doubt that even she would walk around with a PVC pipe. Why even bring it up?
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There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it.
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I think it looked like a hard cardboard roll. Harder than the paper towel roll.
That said, I put a large wooden/plastic spanker right up there with a pvc pipe. Any hard implement or belt or switch of any kind is abusive. Parents should never strike with anything but an open hand, and it should be a quick swat, at that.
I just would like to think as a society, we've evolved beyond striking children.
barbgilmer1@t_brianaa Nala is with a family that I think Kate said they still go and see, @kateplusmy8
Does anyone believe that Kate actually has gone to visit this dog? Like, ever?
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Nala Schmala
Does anyone know exactly the extent of Collin's issues? Is he far away? Has it been reported where he is?
It could be something much more serious than attention deficit or a learning disability. If so, it's possible that Kate isn't trained to deal with it, she doesn't know how to help him, and staying with her and her ineptness could be detrimental to a positive outcome. I hope he is at the best place he can be and is getting the professional help he needs. Kate certainly isn't a trained therapist.
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If, IF Colin could have been treated at home with a very attentive parent or parents, who dedicated all resources and summoned all help that they could, that is simply not Kate.
So, I don't think sending Colin away for treatment is necessarily bad, considering Kate and the media circus she invites, and the filming she won't stop and the constant need to stay in the public eye and in the tabloids.
There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it.
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The recent comment here was the first time I've ever heard TFW's "weapon" described as a piece of PVC pipe (I don't think she's that stupid to use something so hard). IMO, it was the inner cardboard tube from a roll of paper towels. But, only TFW and the TLC crew knows for sure...
GollyGee said... 81
Midnight Madness said... 77
GollyGee said... 61
Robert didn't say PVC pipe. There is a picture of her with that white long round tube that looks like PVC pipe to me and that is what I was talking about.
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Kate is one brick short of a load, but I doubt that even she would walk around with a PVC pipe. Why even bring it up?
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There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it.
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I remember a picture of her holding a cardboard paper towel holder that looked firmer than the typical Bounty paper towel holder, but not PVC pipe. Perhaps someone has the photo. Of course, using any device to threaten and strike a child is reprehensible.
It's birthday time on IG.
kateplusmy8 16 years ago, these two perfectly amazing girls were born! I'm so thankful for them each and every day!
Happy 16th birthday, Mady and Cara! Can't wait to celebrate YOU today!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ #LoveMom #FiveMonthsOldInPic
Kate wasn't holding a PVC pipe, or the cardboard tube from paper towels.
She was holding the much thicker and stronger cardboard tube from something like aluminum foil.
There is a big difference between the two types of cardboard tubes. The paper towel one is very thin and can fold up easily. The aluminum foil tube can't be folded up or bent. It's VERY sturdy.
She had that in her hand several times in the show when "disciplining" them as babies in diapers.
I recall seeing it in her hand one time in the garage, and it's also in the scene of Kate putting Collin in time out. That's the one screen shot that's been posted on Twitter several times.
She also of course used that big, red plastic spoon that was on the counter once in one scene, as well as the big wooden spoon scene in the door of her van.
She had that in her hand several times in the show when "disciplining" them as babies in diapers.
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That's a key point.
Oh, if the crew could or would talk.
Happy 16th birthday, Mady and Cara! Can't wait to celebrate YOU today!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ #LoveMom #FiveMonthsOldInPic
October 8, 2016 at 6:24 AM
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Well, good that Kate made it about the twins. The tups will never have it be about them and the day they were born.
3 packs of bacon a day!
17 month bedrest!!
"There is a close-up picture of her holding it in her hand, while she was walking around. I have seen the picture and one even has a red circle around it."
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Yes, the picture is out there. Yes, there is a circle around it, but I remember someone zooming in on it, and it wasn't a PVC pipe! Where did this speculation originate?
"If, IF Colin could have been treated at home with a very attentive parent or parents, who dedicated all resources and summoned all help that they could, that is simply not Kate.
So, I don't think sending Colin away for treatment is necessarily bad, considering Kate and the media circus she invites, and the filming she won't stop and the constant need to stay in the public eye and in the tabloids."
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Totally agree. Being away from her, filming, and the media most likely is the best thing for this child.
Here's hoping with the greatest hope that Jon gets to see his twin girls for their 16th birthday. I can't imagine how painful it will be if they refuse.
16 is big. Time to grow up, girls and heal your relationship with your dad. It will be the best birthday present you could ever wish for.
Over in TFW's County -- I agree that 'adding' to what Kate has done with speculation is not a good idea. It gets confusing when those speculations are right in the middle of some truth. It's just so not necessary. The things Kate does are bad enough but adding what you think something might be and then causing a stir, and doing it again and again is ridiculous.
CC (#88), I was just about to post the same thing as you did. That is not a paper towel roll that kids turn into craft projects. It's super sturdy, and, as you said, not even bendable. Now imagine that being swung with force by an angry woman (remember those pictures of her lifting L's
dress and smacking her bottom?) on toddlers' tender skin.
I am sorry I called it PVC pipe.
I remembered that we were talking about it years ago and thought it was a hard roll from Saran Wrap or tin foil.
If it was whiter in color, it would look just like it.
How she could hit those babies with it, is horrible!
Tucker's Mom said... 92
Here's hoping with the greatest hope that Jon gets to see his twin girls for their 16th birthday. I can't imagine how painful it will be if they refuse.
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Sadly I don't think this will happen. The twins are probably caught up in whatever exciting things are planned and after all, they are 'just so busy in their lives and don't need toxicity'...I doubt they'll change their tune after all this time . No nudge from Kate reminding them he IS their father.
Lol for a second i thought barb was also celebrating Mady and Cara's birthday as well. barbgilmer1@kateplusmy8 We are celebrating the twins as well here as Zach & Jacob turned 14 on the 6th of October!
Does anyone know if the non-fans on Kate's Twitters are from her area, or have kids who go to the same school? It seems like they know so much about what the kids get to do or don't get to do, that they are confined to their house, that the twins never get to spend time with their friends and have absolutely no social life. The only way they would know this for sure is if they are locals and know from personal experience that the twins never go out, have no friends, and never do anything without their mother.
Just curious!
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Does anyone know if the non-fans on Kate's Twitters are from her area, or have kids who go to the same school? It seems like they know so much about what the kids get to do or don't get to do, that they are confined to their house, that the twins never get to spend time with their friends and have absolutely no social life. The only way they would know this for sure is if they are locals and know from personal experience that the twins never go out, have no friends, and never do anything without their mother.
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They may very well not know "for sure" but are speculating/making inferences based on what Kate puts out there on TV, magazines (People interviews), twitter and instagram.
Many of the non-fan's names and addresses were released during the Great McGiblet Farce and none of them lived in close proximity to Kate.
The non-fans have told, retold and embellished their stories for so long they've created their own little fantasy house of horrors that greatly diminishes their credibility.
That's not to say Kate is a good, thoughtful, empathetic mother. She's a manipulative, controlling fame whore whose first priority is keeping herself and her family on television.
It's been said here more than once by someone who lives in the area by Kate that the kids DO have activities outside the home. Music lessons, sports, scouts, etc., who knows what or how often? Judging by the amount of time and actual filming it takes to put together even a 1/2 hour show, and the number of times they've been seen filming plus Kate sometimes mentioning when they do it's doubtful the kids outside activities can be too demanding of their time.
Cuz she's rich she can do what she wants. Law? What law? when you're filthy rich.
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What law requires her to wait around in a foreign country while the French police get their shit together? No thanks. I'm not going to hang around in France during a crime investigation after I already gave my statement. This is not a rich people thing. This is a smart people thing.
She's actually following the law--you are under no obligation to speak to the police if there's any chance they might turn on you. I would give my statement with my lawyer present then get out of dodge. I don't trust that country as far as I can spit. They've completely lost control of their country to ISIS and Middle East immigration. People are dying in terrorist attack after terrorist attack while they sit around trying to figure out who robbed Kim Kardashian.
Even if she has chosen to cooperate fully, it doesn't do much good to stick around. She should give them as complete as statement as possible and then make sure she has left good contact information. They can call her if they have any more questions, and if need be, she can fly back out if they really need to see her in person.
Couple years ago when my car was broken into along with five others I didn't stick around and watch the forensics and wait for the cops to figure it out. I gave my statement, my phone number in case they had any follow up, and left. She was dusting my car for fingerprints as I left. It's not my job to babysit the investigation, they're the experts.
They may very well not know "for sure" but are speculating/making inferences based on what Kate puts out there on TV, magazines (People interviews), twitter and instagram.
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I think "All This And That" was talking about the twins not having any kind of social life, no friends, etc. as the non-fans keep tweeting. I don't remember Kate putting it out there, or even suggesting, that these kids are confined to their homes, have no friends or social life and don't interact with their peers.
Maybe I'm out of the loop with what Kate has said in interviews, or even suggested, but it's just not true.
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Over in TFW's County -- I agree that 'adding' to what Kate has done with speculation is not a good idea. It gets confusing when those speculations are right in the middle of some truth. It's just so not necessary. The things Kate does are bad enough but adding what you think something might be and then causing a stir, and doing it again and again is ridiculous.
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Yes, I agree. Kate does enough on her own that it's ridiculous to throw things out there that just aren't true, such as PVC pipes, hanging kids upside down and sticking their faces into feces, etc., that such embellishments really aren't necessary, especially when it's speculation, and when we can't distinguish opinion from fact or when something comes directly from Robert's book and quotes aren't used.
I would hope by now that everyone here knows that I most certainly am not a Kate fan or sheeple! ;)
Well, the birthday IG post has been up for almost 12 hours, and while it's getting more hearts and comments than any other post thus far, the turnout is rather pathetic. Under 200 comments (by far the most any of her IG posts has received) and almost 6,000 hearts (again, way ahead of any other post). Hardly a tidal wave.
To add insult to injury, K8's TLC FB page has nary a mention of the landmark b'day, and I've only seen one tab story from a source no one reads. Not even ROL got in on this act. Her Twitter TL has mostly been dead all day, with only a few intrepid fans (a hearty welcome back to Cindy Brown aka Marie!) bothering to post anything at all.
Does anyone else hear the sound of one hand clapping?
A sheep tweeted:
MARIE @MY_BORDERCOLLIE 14m14 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 HAPPY SWEET 16 BIRTHDAY TO MADY AND CARA! Have they taken their drivers test yet Kate? Scary isn't it? lol lol
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LOL! Uh, no, not unless they've been driving illegally without a permit! First, they need a permit and they need to be 16 in order to get one; then they need to log 65 hours of supervised driving with a licensed driver. Then they take the test.
Have they taken their test yet? Ah, sheeple. Such doofi.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m6 minutes ago
At #SweetSixteen could be Mom's call to #OpenTheDoor just a lil more so her beautiful girls can soar! #CaraAndMady #TrustEarned @kateplusmy8
Uh, oh. Passive-aggressive Gladys is giving Kate some parenting advice. Watch out, Milo, she might block you. It's kind of like the Incredible Hulk. You don't want to make her angry. She won't like you when she's angry!
Doesn't look like TLC acknowledged the Twins' 16th bday on any social media at all....
WTF is she talking about? How bizarre.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
#MixedEmotions Your baby girls are growing up! They are GOOD girls & have been helpful big sisters! @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
At #SweetSixteen could be Mom's call to #OpenTheDoor just a lil more so her beautiful girls can soar! #CaraAndMady #TrustEarned @kateplusmy8
Gladys is sure making it sound like Mommy Dearest is keeping the b'day girls under lock and key. Maybe she heard something from #PumpkinBottom? Cause I'm damned sure she didn't hear anything at all from K8.
There are no words, just an LOL!
DEPLORABLE Barbie
@barbiejeansayre
Ida just call she tell me SHE say the pastor ejaculated all the church said it wasn't safe OR soun for em her an Benny over to Evelyn's now
Where is Mrs. Malaprop and the doctor?
@Sad But True (104) And not to mention no happy birthday from TLC on twitter or IG post.I get that the twins were never the focus but i'd think if Kate was as relevant as milo say she is then TLC would at least have tweeted or post something.
Does anyone else hear the sound of one hand clapping?
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Or the sound of a tree falling in the forest?
I noticed that not too many were all giddy with excitement over the Big Event today. Her TL didn't crash with 200,000 birthday wishes. I'm surprised she didn't pay Tweeters to clog her twitter, just to keep it alive, you know.
@MiloandJack: Soon you will have two 16yr olds #BookSmartOffTheChart Your next challenge to teach them #Wisdom #HumbleHeart LOL #RaisingTeens @Kateplusmy8
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How can Kate possibly teach qualities that she herself doesn't have?
@MiloandJack: Soon you will have two 16yr olds #BookSmartOffTheChart Your next challenge to teach them #Wisdom #HumbleHeart LOL #RaisingTeens @Kateplusmy8
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How can Kate possibly teach qualities that she herself doesn't have?
Her Twitter TL has mostly been dead all day, with only a few intrepid fans (a hearty welcome back to Cindy Brown aka Marie!) bothering to post anything at all.
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And wouldn't you know when she did tweet, it was to ask a stupid question?
@MiloandJack: Soon you will have two 16yr olds #BookSmartOffTheChart Your next challenge to teach them #Wisdom #HumbleHeart LOL #RaisingTeens @Kateplusmy8
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How can Kate possibly teach qualities that she herself doesn't have?
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Wisdom? Humble heart? Kate? Well, you can't say that Gladys doesn't have a sense of humor!
PA Dutch Mom (#114), wasn't Marie the one who said about a year ago that her days were numbered? She seems to still be among the living.
Just discovered a cooking show on youtube.
Great Depression Cooking with Miss Clara.
She is 91 years old and is a great cook!
She also talks about when she grew up in the depression. She said she had to quit school because she didn't have hose to wear to school.
She is a great inspiration!
https://www.youtube.com/user/DepressionCooking
FlimsyFlamsy said... 116
It's more like 3-4 years ago now---hole in the heart, BP 300/175, etc., etc. More like a hole in the head.
Oh good grief. Was Milo this batshit crazy when her own kids turned 16, or 18, or whatever? She left additional comments on the IG post:
miloandjack2016 I know this is a special day....realization how time flies & your #BigGirls are indeed growing up! Did you really see this coming? Kinda unbelievable... @kateplusmy8
She's trying to goad Kate into some sort of saccharine, over-the-top sentimentality. I think the initial post with the photo is about as sentimental as Kate's gonna get---after all, this isn't #NookiePookie.
PA Dutch (109): "There are no words, just an LOL!
DEPLORABLE Barbie
@barbiejeansayre
Ida just call she tell me SHE say the pastor ejaculated all the church said it wasn't safe OR soun for em her an Benny over to Evelyn's now
Where is Mrs. Malaprop and the doctor?"
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Disneyworld was ejaculated, too. I guess there was no magic in the Magic Kingdom.
Sad but true said... 118
FlimsyFlamsy said... 116
It's more like 3-4 years ago now---hole in the heart, BP 300/175, etc., etc. More like a hole in the head.
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Now that Brad and his wife have separated, did he move back into her basement?
Lynne In RI said... 120
PA Dutch (109): "There are no words, just an LOL!
DEPLORABLE Barbie
@barbiejeansayre
Ida just call she tell me SHE say the pastor ejaculated all the church said it wasn't safe OR soun for em her an Benny over to Evelyn's now
Where is Mrs. Malaprop and the doctor?"
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Disneyworld was ejaculated, too. I guess there was no magic in the Magic Kingdom.
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Even worse, Magic Mountain!
Admin, how does it usually work in cases like that? If she passes away, does the living parent, Jon, get custody, or if Steve were named as guardian, would Jon have to take Steve to court for custody?
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Custody reverts to the living parent, and I believe in almost all states surviving grandparents then spring forth visitation rights upon the death of their child. Definitely that's how it works in CA, and I've watched a judge have to sort that out when the surviving parent didn't like the grandparents' parenting choices (food, TV, etc) on their bi-weekly visits.
Lol you're an expert on French law?
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Um, not an expert in French law. However it's common knowledge most first world countries invoke a general right to remain silent, and a quick google search reveals that France does indeed have such a right under the French Code of Criminal Procedure, including a requirement they be read their rights (similar to Miranda rights in the states). Therefore, I stand by my statement KK is under no obligation to stick around and shoot the shit with the French and should leave if she darn well wants to leave because she turns into the next Amanda Knox, who should have done the same while she could.
I wasn't suggesting they should NOT investigate this heinous attack on that woman, you misunderstood my post. I was saying they can't even figure out why they are constant victims of ISIS, God knows if they'll be able to crack this case. In other words, I don't think Kim Kardashian sticking around a couple more days is going to make much of a difference to that mess of a police force. I would have to actually look at all their social media posts in the surrounding couple days before this to see if a layman really could figure out exactly where they were and if they had the crown jewels on them. I don't feel like doing that but I'm sure someone else will.
PA Dutch Mom, it wasn't Kate, but Mady did make a comment she spends a lot of time up in her room by herself.
A kid actively engaged in sports, music, and other activities, simply wouldn't have the time to always be in her room like that.
When I was her age I went to my room to sleep, if that. Often I spent Friday or Saturday night with a friend studying for a test or something then having a sleepover. But I was a kid who always did a sport, was involved in several musical endeavors, a few clubs, and several AP classes each semester, plus a healthy group of friends. There wasn't time to hang around in my room. It was a strange comment for a child who is supposedly a normal and engaged teen as you claim.
Wouldn't she be detailed by the local police to fill out papers, provide descriptions, details of the robbery and/or suspects.
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I think that was an autocorrect and you meant detained. The police shouldn't be detaining people who were just witnesses. It's a good idea to cooperate with their questions or face an obstruction of justice charge, but they have no right to detain you unless they're going to charge you.
According to the media, she DID give her statement. I assume that took at least a few hours. This whole incident only seemed to last a short time. They came in, took the jewels, and tied her up. But I'm not sure how much one could really say about a 5 or 10 minute incident, if that, in more than a couple hours. If they have any more questions as things come up, it's 2016, they can call her.
There is nothing rich people about this at all. This is how a normal investigation goes, especially if she's not a suspect. The police don't "hold" a bunch of witnesses to the crime in a holding room while they figure out if they need anything else from them. That's not how it works nor would most witnesses put up with that nonsense. Nor would a judge. You can't detain people without good cause in most first world countries, France included. As it should be.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 125
PA Dutch Mom, it wasn't Kate, but Mady did make a comment she spends a lot of time up in her room by herself.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cara also commented she was so happy it was the weekend so she could sleep for 12 hours- campfire after pumpkin smashing. That's normal for teens and doesn't meant they have no social life. Cara and Mady have that one friend Marley who was in a few episodes and Mady had the girl Kate surprised her with at the gym birthday party and she was angry about it. They had a few friends at the tups' 10th birthday party. So I imagine they have a small circle of friends; don't know about activities but many teens just like to hang out, gossip, go to the mall etc.Activities are better but at least they seem to have some pals.
Formerly Duped said...127
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TFW had Marley come to Mady's party to surprise her and Mady got angry? Why would Mady be angry if they are best friends?
Was it because she didn't have a head's up about it?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 123
Admin, how does it usually work in cases like that? If she passes away, does the living parent, Jon, get custody, or if Steve were named as guardian, would Jon have to take Steve to court for custody?
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Custody reverts to the living parent, and I believe in almost all states surviving grandparents then spring forth visitation rights upon the death of their child. Definitely that's how it works in CA, and I've watched a judge have to sort that out when the surviving parent didn't like the grandparents' parenting choices (food, TV, etc) on their bi-weekly visits.
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Thank you, Admin for answering this. This is a subject that I have really been concerned about. I wouldn't put anything past TFW to really do a last gotcha! to Jon.
She has proven over and over again that she is that evil and vindictive over the years.
Not let your son see his dad for 2 years, beat the babies whenever she pleased, control their food, abuse the animals, force them to film when they are hurting or sick. Make them work like fine, farm hands after school.
I could go on and on.
If it was whiter in color, it would look just like it.
Seriously, stop! It wasn't white. It wasn't PVC.
GollyGee said @ 128, Was it because she didn't have a head's up about it?
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Exactly. Mady likes to be in control, like her mama. It was not Marley but a different friend.
It seems Kate can't please the twins recently- remember when she had garden plaques made for them and they rudely rebuffed them and told Kate off, saying they would not be using them? They don't want her as the 'friend' she pretends she is to them which is absolutely normal.They could use a good parent. So it's extra sad they have cut Jon off.
Formerly Duped said...130
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Very sad. Before it got worse, Jon said that he and the twins would go out to eat. You know Jon loved that. But, they got older and more influenced by THEIR TOXIC mother and for Mady to proclaim that her father is toxic and the "infamous- He knows why" is very, very sad.
Not let your son see his dad for 2 years,
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I don't believe Kate has the power to do this. Jon not seeing his children is on Jon.
Unless there's some court order that Jon is prohibited from seeing half his kids, this is something that Jon can do something about.
It's so hard to believe they do all those activities and have as much time as they do for filming. At that age most clubs aren't going to let you miss more than one or two practices or events before they kick you out. This isn't preschool anymore. I guess the idea is trying to teach kids lessons in commitments and all that silly stuff.
Model UN events are often over the weekends. You're telling me that Cara and Mady are on the Model UN team, and that the team is just fine and dandy with them knocking off to film whenever Kate has the whim? If all this is true, I can envision some bitter classmates at all their special treatment.
Didn't Mady specifically say she's not very studious? And yet she's in Model UN representing Belgium or whatever? In my day Model UN was only for the very top students. We didn't take people who openly admit school really isn't their thing.
I certainly don't subscribe to the viewpoint they do NOTHING. As our "regular" locals have said, I have no doubt they do a FEW activities (maybe a sport a year, maybe one club) and have a FEW friends, but I see absolutely no evidence, none, these kids have a normal full extra curricular schedule. Kate's own tweets and those of others prove they are often home and often filming. Kids this age just really aren't HOME much and certainly not as much as Kate has tweeted they are (unless he's lying). With everything else that has been sleuthed out on Twitter, this would have been by now too.
I smell a sheeple trying to defend Kate.
Seeing the twins birthday pic on IG.
She is thankful each and everyday for them.
One thing she is thankful about is Mady finally telling the world that her father knows why they don't want to see him and that he is toxic.
This is probably what Mady was suppose to SPIT OUT on the TODAY show. And TFW was ticked off that they didn't do it.
Could be 3 explanations of why TFW had that smug grin on her face.
Mady proclaiming Jon was toxic and that he knows why we don't want to see him.
Colin was out of her hair.
And announcing that she is confirming Kate Plus 8 will be on in January.
It makes me wonder if the book that Mady is suppose to write one day, will it be in favor of her mother and against her father?
Or vise versa?
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 131
It's so hard to believe they do all those activities and have as much time as they do for filming. At that age most clubs aren't going to let you miss more than one or two practices or events before they kick you out. This isn't preschool anymore. I guess the idea is trying to teach kids lessons in commitments and all that silly stuff
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There's no way that most (or even some) of the kids is allowed to do organized sports or activities. It's a commitment that would interfere with filming. Heck, Kate cuts into their schooling, so imagine how low priority organized sports or clubs would be for her and her agenda.
I just think both Kate and Jon have missed out big time on the really fun and meaningful things that you get to do as a parent, FOR your kids and with your kids. ALL these years of filming on a tight schedule and traveling doesn't hold a candle to the tools, skills and social interaction that kids get by having them interact with their peers.
I still remember my years in Brownies and Girl Scout, and all of my dance recitals and sports event, and my parents being there helping me and supporting me, often beaming with joy and pride.
Model UN events are often over the weekends. You're telling me that Cara and Mady are on the Model UN team, and that the team is just fine and dandy with them knocking off to film whenever Kate has the whim? If all this is true, I can envision some bitter classmates at all their special treatment.
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Again, Kate thinks nothing of canceling the kids visitation time with Jon, so she can make them film. If that's not important... nothing comes before filming. Nothing.
Kate makes hay when she can, and as much as she can.
I believe the twins have had outside activities. It's the tups that I believe haven't had to opportunities.
The kids loved gymnastics, yet Kate made excuses to not enroll them, which was pathetic.
I think the tups get to do stuff through school, and have school friends, but that's about it. When they're home, I think Kate likes to keep them on the compound, and out of her hair.
Tucker's Mom (#135), and we haven't heard boo about any of those 3 boys being involved in a team sport of any kind. And I believe if they were involved, TFW would be more than happy to share that information, since she knows some people claim her boys are treated like second-class citizens.
We've never heard her say they just got back from practice or a game, or seen the boys wearing any kind of local team shirt.
We've seen how disenfranchised those boys are. If any or all had a burning desire to play baseball, basketball, soccer, or anything, I can't imagine any of them feeling free to share that desire with their mother. A woman who said the day she found out she was pregnant with them was the worst day of her life.
There wasn't time to hang around in my room. It was a strange comment for a child who is supposedly a normal and engaged teen as you claim.
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I didn't claim anything. If it sounded like I did, then I apologize. I said that it is't true that the twins don't have any outside activities or friends or social life. Nothing more, nothing less. The twitter non-fans make it sound like these kids are penned up in their house on a regular basis with no outside interests or chances to interact with their peers. That is what I said just isn't true, and I never said that the twins are normal teens as we would define "normal," which they clearly are not, thanks to TLC, filming and Kate.
Has Kate said anything about the hours and hours she's spending meticulously crafting each Halloween costume? I don't look at her IG, and she's rarely on Twitter. She should visit one of the local thrift stores here that has one of the largest selections of new and good pre-owned costumes for five dollars. Then again, if she buys the costumes she won't be able to proclaim herself a wonderful mother and how exhaustingish it is doing everything for her kids.
PA Dutch Mom (#142), too bad TFW was fired from Coupon Cabin. She could provide a money saving tip for Halloween: send one of your kids away, so you need to buy fewer costumes.
PA Dutch Mom said... 142
Has Kate said anything about the hours and hours she's spending meticulously crafting each Halloween costume?
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Halloween is still 3 weeks off. Getting costumes ready for 5 (7? 10? Is she dressing her dogs?) would take planning and focus. And Kate has always struck me as a slap-it-together-the-night-before type. All her protestations to the contrary.
Formerly Duped said... 130
GollyGee said @ 128, Was it because she didn't have a head's up about it?
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Exactly. Mady likes to be in control, like her mama. It was not Marley but a different friend.
It seems Kate can't please the twins recently- remember when she had garden plaques made for them and they rudely rebuffed them and told Kate off, saying they would not be using them? They don't want her as the 'friend' she pretends she is to them which is absolutely normal.They could use a good parent. So it's extra sad they have cut Jon off.
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Oh, I remember the twins being beside themselves with their own personal garden stone. They were really mad.
It really is sad that their relationship with Jon is so messed up and with their mother too. They just can't see that with their mother, yet.
I hope the kids have some activities. I just know it's really hard to be involved if you don't have parental support. It's also hard if you have school, then dinner time, then music practice or sports practice from 7-9pm when you live a long way from school. Some activities happen on school time and a lot don't. Especially as they get older, things are at different hours.
Strange, no birthday greeting from Jon on Instagram. He did one last year. Maybe he is doing it privately or maybe he's pissed and not doing at all. Of course mommy dearest can blast it all over her Instagram. Sad all around.
Maybe jon is complying with the twins to help them reach out to him. Hope they did.
Tucker's Mom said... 148
Maybe jon is complying with the twins to help them reach out to him. Hope they did.
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I didn't really read any of the People crap, I did of course see Mady's comment about Jo being toxic. But did Cara actually say anything close to that negative? She really doesn't say much, at least most of the time.
So I put Kate's "real" IG followers at about the 7,000 mark. Because the 16th b'day photo of the twins got a little over 6,500 likes. And if you were a real fan and on that IG TL by choice, why wouldn't you "heart" the Sweet 16 girls? It's sad that Kate felt the need to buy +/-80K followers to pump up her ego. I wonder if she's giving out that inflated number to places like Blue Apron, much as she did with HCI, her cookbook publisher. The first item on their promo package was the breathless "More than 100,000 followers on Twitter," which we all know was very far from true.
My friends mother is an IG celeb with 24k followers. For a variety of reasons I'm virtually certain she did not buy her followers. She posts once every few days averaging about 1k likes per photo and 20 comments. So one in 20 people are liking it. That seems on the low side given her followers, much like Kate. While I have much less followers to compare to, I know they're organic ones, and my ratio is over one out of 10 liking. I think instagram may be fading because I got more than that in the past.
I didn't really read any of the People crap, I did of course see Mady's comment about Jo being toxic. But did Cara actually say anything close to that negative? She really doesn't say much, at least most of the time.
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I can't recall exactly what Cara said, but she seemed to deflect the question and not elaborate.
Mady seemed mad that Jon dare mention her on social media or interviews.
As far as I recall, Jon has never divulged more that that he doesn't see them, and nothing close to negative.
Tucker's Mom (#162), I believe M was spouting the party line, and the facts of the situation had little to do with her reaction.
I wonder if the kid scored a car for driving the bus over her father.
@FlimsyFlamsy I wonder if she did get a car.Even though Kate hasn't said or posted anything about a car.Unless she of course is filming an episode of them getting a car for their birthday.Although a part of me feels Kate would give a tease comment or tweet where she'd say something like"Can you all guess what i got my girls for their birthday?You'll just have to wait and see ;) #lovemygirls #Bigsurprise."Something like that
Jamezvader (#154), yes, I would expect some wink-wink tweet from TFW, telling us to stay tuned. Maybe she's realizing that air date may never come?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 153
Tucker's Mom (#162), I believe M was spouting the party line, and the facts of the situation had little to do with her reaction.
I wonder if the kid scored a car for driving the bus over her father.
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I think you're right about the party line.
Maybe TLC timed the episodes where they couldn't film a big blowout Sweet 16 Escalade Escapade for Two for the twins birthday!
The backlash they got for the John Deere Gator for the tups 10th birthday, maybe they didn't want to deal with it.
The way it looks now, I believe they are not ever going to show another Kate Plus 8 ever again.
She is going to youtube.
I got a Retail-Me-Not email today and the first company was the famous pretzels, Auntie Anne's!
I thought about our Auntie Ann and I hope she is lurking and doing well. God bless her!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago
Ok...I bet it has been quite a weekend! #SweetSixteens So WHO drove today? Have they already moved you to passenger seat? :) @Kateplusmy8
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Does Milo think the minute you turn 16 you can just hop into the driver's seat and off you go? They first must take a written exam to get the permit! The DMV is not open on a Sunday!
Does Milo think the minute you turn 16 you can just hop into the driver's seat and off you go? They first must take a written exam to get the permit! The DMV is not open on a Sunday!
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This will be Milo's new obsession -- the driving thing. She will milk this like she did the Grow-A-Boyfriend, squats, lesbian-preacher deck, Vann, Kate's puppies, and platitudes.
Straight from Berks and Beyond!
•PennDOT driver license centers: closed.
The twins will have to wait till Tuesday!
I got a Retail-Me-Not email today and the first company was the famous pretzels, Auntie Anne's!
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Oh, great. Now I have a craving for a cheese pretzel dog. Anne Beiler had her humble beginnings right here in PA, and the company is based in our old post office building in downtown Lancaster.
Where is our Auntie Ann? Has anyone heard anything? I miss her and think about her every time I drive past corporate headquarters.
The way it looks now, I believe they are not ever going to show another Kate Plus 8 ever again.
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What about Kate Plus 7? Gladys says that TLC announced that the new episodes will be launched in January, and you know that she is never wrong.
I don't believe Kate has the power to do this. Jon not seeing his children is on Jon.
Unless there's some court order that Jon is prohibited from seeing half his kids, this is something that Jon can do something about
This statement needs to be reposted daily here. Jon's relationship with his kids is on him.
Becca
The kids loved gymnastics, yet Kate made excuses to not enroll them, which was pathetic
We saw one episode where Leah years ago said she loved gymnastics. We have no idea if she still does or if all 6 wanted to do it.
Sorry Milo, but the girls will have to wait a bit longer. The twins will only be able to get a Jr. license (in 6 months) and won't get an unrestricted license until 18.
Licensing & State Laws - Pennsylvania - AAA.com
teendriving.aaa.com › Home › Supervised Driving
At age 16 and 6 months, a teen may obtain a junior license after having held a learner's permit for at least 6 months. The teen must make a road test appointment (done online at www.dmv.state.pa.us or by calling 1-800-423-5542). With a junior license, teens may drive unsupervised between 5 a.m. and 11 p.m.
But do today's generation even care that much about getting their driving license? It was different for us (I'm in my early forties). WE didn't have phones, internet, etc., so a license meant freedom to hang with our friends. Most young people I know are not even interested in getting their license until they are well into their 20's. Milo is out of touch.
http://www.nickiswift.com/27123/kate-gosselins-dramatic-transformation/
This article has some really good shots at TFW but the conclusion is a disappointment.
Sorry Milo, but the girls will have to wait a bit longer. The twins will only be able to get a Jr. license (in 6 months) and won't get an unrestricted license until 18.
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So for the next six months Milo will be hooked on this driving thing, pestering Kate about the learner's permit, junior license, etc. etc., and for the next two years until they get their unrestricted license. Egads. I hope Kate ignores her.
Jon finally uploaded an old picture of Mady and Cara and said happy birthday to them on IG.In a comment he said he didn't want to upload it because of controversy which i don't blame him.Last year he uploaded the same picture and one of the tabloids did a story of him uploading the picture for some reason.Because of the comments by the twins i wouldn't be shocked if he'd uploaded it on their birthday,there would be a story somewhere along the line of"Jon Gosselin uploads picture of twins daughters despite their outrage."and of course someone like Milo would claim he's doing it for attention. https://www.instagram.com/p/BLYzen0g-pp/?taken-by=jongosselin1
Does Milo think the minute you turn 16 you can just hop into the driver's seat and off you go? They first must take a written exam to get the permit! The DMV is not open on a Sunday!
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She's either that dumb, or she posted this to get a response out of Kate. Or both.
Happy Thanksgiving Day to all my fellow Canadians.
bm
Do you think the twins even follow their dad's IG?
Very sad Jon has to post a picture from their childhood and cannot even see them ace to face.
Finally, a "major" outlet did pick this up. But they used Jon's late tweet for juice.
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/cara-and-mady-gosselin-turn-16-and-get-shout-outs-from-jon-and-kate-175204495.html
bm (#167), Happy Thanksgiving to you, and to all our other lovely Canadian readers and posters!
It appears that Jon forgot about Cara and Mady's birthday. Who's to say whether he did or didn't. If he didn't want controversy, he should have found another way to wish Happy Birthday to his girls. I'm not surprised that an article was posted.
Happy Thanksgiving to our Canadian friends to our north. Always wonderful to read from you!
Also, waving "hi!!!" to Auntie Ann, if she's out there.
It appears that Jon forgot about Cara and Mady's birthday. Who's to say whether he did or didn't. If he didn't want controversy, he should have found another way to wish Happy Birthday to his girls
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Are you kidding me? I'd sooner believe that aliens are attending Dessert Trip than Jon forgetting that his beloved twin turned 16.
C'mon.
Maybe Jon was waiting for permission from the girls to post birthday wishes. Heaven forbid he should offend them. Or maybe he just didn't get around to informing the fans he wishes them a happy birthday, which is hardly the same thing as forgetting the birthday with the actually birthday girls.
It's a no win for Jon concerning the ridiculous birthday wishes on IG. He's their father for godsakes, not some fan. He shouldn't have to give them a birthday shoutout on an internet social site. What matters is what he did in person. At the same time if the twins, or one of the twins, refused to accept his birthday wishes and possible gifts in person then that is on them/her. Not him.
This could be why Jon is afraid to get the cops to get his kids. I DON'T BLAME HIM! With a wacko like Kate you never know. Watch it. some things are close to word for word. It's spooky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MXhScAJIfU
Tamara, totally agree.
Those girls are going to regret treating their dad like this. He loves them dearly and the tups also.
He could of had just a clip of was it Mady or Cara that RAN like the wind to see Jon when she got off the bus at the E-town house?
And find a clip with Cara.
GollyGee (#182), that was M. And TFW said in the VO that M still responds to her father like when she was very little -- something like, "She still sees stars." All the brainwashing in the world can't take away the actual loving bond that existed between Jon and the twins. It wasn't imaginary -- we witnessed that warmth and tenderness with our own eyes. And I hope at some point this rift is healed -- sooner rather than later.
OT:
Many regs here are familiar with my cat story. I adopted two rescues, only to have the one deliver a litter in the guest room. Fantine and Cosette are doing fine and I found homes for the kittens. My rescues are strictly indoor cats now, only to go outside for grooming and vet trips.
Today I was looking out the kitchen window, and one of the dogs was whining and wagging her tail, standing in front of the French doors that lead to the deck. There was a big orange cat with his or her nose against the glass wanting to come in. I think it was either the mother or father of one of my rescues.
I thought...oh, no. Not again. What is it with me? Am I a cat magnet? Geese fly south for the winter; neighborhood strays round up their friends and say, "Hey, this crazy cat lady provides food and shelter. Follow us."
I am ignoring it for now.
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So Jean Valjean is joining your family? Great!
Are you kidding me? I'd sooner believe that aliens are attending Dessert Trip than Jon forgetting that his beloved twin turned 16.
C'mon.
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Exactly. Not everything in life is done on social media, thank goodness. What a world this would be if all of our lives were put out there for others to scrutinize and criticize. My word.
He could of had just a clip of was it Mady or Cara that RAN like the wind to see Jon when she got off the bus at the E-town house?
And find a clip with Cara.
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Why would he need to do this? For the benefit of the tabloids and media? For his critics? For his defenders? Come on. He was under no obligation to look for clips, nor make anything public. He did't need to find a video of anyone or anything.
Over In TFW's County said... 184
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Ohhhhhh No!
Please don't ignore! Open the door!
My fur-ever home, forever more!
Orange is the new Cat!
Over in TWF's County said, "I am ignoring it for now."
Um. Please keep us updated. (But, I think we might already know the end of the story!)
Dmasy (#189), I have a feeling there's a new reality show on the horizon: Over In TFW's
County Plus 8 Cats!
'Nother lil #NookiePookie video on IG tonight. And Gladys is all over it. "Oh Kate. . . ." Oh Miss Crabtree.
kateplusmy8 Guess who likes the car?! She jumped right up into the passenger seat as soon as Cara got out! Silly girl! #Nanuq #Almost6MonthsOldAlready
miloandjack2016 Oh Kate...crazy how we talk to our #FurBabies! LOL. I think maybe #Nanuq just WANTS to be w/you? And seems she loves to ride now? @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 I do the same...talk w/my dogs just like the kids! And you will be amazed at how much they learn from our convos w/them! Cute watching #Nanuq respond to you your voice! ❤ @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 LOL-ing at the "wanna go byebye" part! You sound just like ME...minus my southern accent! 😋
Sad but true (#191), thanks for sharing that.
Oh, how Gladys LOVES it when she can say how alike she and TFW are.
And major props from me for your Little Rascals reference!
So Jean Valjean is joining your family? Great!
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LOL! What about Madame Thénardier, running around singing Master of the House, Keeper of the Zoo?
Everybody loves a landlord!
miloandjack2016 LOL-ing at the "wanna go byebye" part! You sound just like ME...minus my southern accent! 😋
Would that be a male southern accent or a female southern accent?
is anyone watching Timeless? Time travel is so fascinating. Tonight it's back to April 14, 1865.
LOL! What about Madame Thénardier, running around singing Master of the House, Keeper of the Zoo?
Everybody loves a landlord!
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You mean every cat loves a landlord!
Well if the shout out for the twins birthday doesn't generate much interest break out the puppy videos! She is so predictable.
kateplusmy8 Guess who likes the car?! She jumped right up into the passenger seat as soon as Cara got out! Silly girl! #Nanuq #Almost6MonthsOldAlready
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So was #NookiePookie traveling in the back of the car and just moved to the front seat or are the puppies roaming the property like Shoka and not restrained when vehicles are around. Since she said "when Cara got out did you get in" I think it may be the latter. On the other hand, the dog didn't seem that excited to "go bye bye" so it may be just another staged reality by TFW.
Over In TFW's County said... 195
is anyone watching Timeless? Time travel is so fascinating. Tonight it's back to April 14, 1865.
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Over in TFW's county, your post reminded me of the movie, Time Changer. It is a great movie with Gavin McCloud, Hal Linden and D. David Morin.
It is on my list of favorite movies ever.
http://www.timechangermovie.com/index.html
There was a time when I swear, I was a lost dog magnet! I hope little orange kitty has a home already.
I wonder if it came around because it got really cold. Brrrrrr!
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