Talk about regurgitating the party line! You might as well be one of those ridiculous Trumpettes on CNN.
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Have you READ the wikileaks? What about it makes you think the media has NOT helped them every step of the way? It's all right there in writing. I haven't heard much about what the party line on the issue is although I assume it's the media is pro Clinton (which, they are). Regardless, I read directly from the source to form my opinion.
Dotti Sandusky and Camille O. Cosby have been blasted for staying with and supporting their husbands. Absolutely blasted. Double standard to the point of head shaking.
I come here to read about Kate Gosselin, and I get a pro-Trump site. No candidate is perfect, but I'll take Clinton any day over a PROVEN misogynistic, sexist, racist, overblown, arrogant, idiotic cheater. Admin, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'm outta here until after the election.
Well, the little kids were filming at a corn maze yesterday and precious Collin was with them!! I did watch him for a few minutes while my group played. He was laughing and just as engaged as ever. One of the girls kept hugging on him and he was running with one of the boys. No twins in sight. Kate and I think that Andrea girl were there going through the maze. Yes, there were 2 cameras and a boom mic. Did not see Steve but there were 2 other adult men. Nothing was blocked off that I could tell. There was a small, I mean 8x10 sign near the front that said a TV show was being filmed and by entering you agree that you may end up on a Television show. I was just so happy to see Collin that I wasn't even perturbed by Kate and her clan.
Let's say, for shits and giggles, that Jon decided to make the police report public, more than a year after the fact and at a time where, by his social media accounts, he is busy with his DJ career, happy with his gf and continuing to see the children of his which choose to visit. --- According to his SM, he works a day or 2 a week. Not a fulltime job by any means. He has a picture on his FB from the tups birthday, May. So we don't know if the kids are still visiting. With Jon ranting recently about losing a DJ gig, who knows. His DJ career seems spotty at best. We have no proof he has seen any kids since Collin was sent away/People magazine. And now with the police report out I would think that has caused a new upset in Kate's home. I can't imagine the shit that was inflicted on Hannah went she didn't go home and caused "mommy" so much stress. We don't know if he is still in a relationship with Colleen.
ocalyocul said... 190 PA Dutch...how long after this happened did he actually see the police reports do you know? Is this new to him or has he known about it?
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I'm sorry, local. I'm just not getting into what he knew, when he knew it, or anything else. I'm biting my tongue once again. If Jon wants to release anything, that's up to him.
Kirkland said... 4 I come here to read about Kate Gosselin, and I get a pro-Trump site. No candidate is perfect, but I'll take Clinton any day over a PROVEN misogynistic, sexist, racist, overblown, arrogant, idiotic cheater. Admin, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'm outta here until after the election.
"Trumpettes on CNN" LOL - at our house we call them "Barbie Dolls". I can't help wondering if they are positioning themselves as commentators on the rumoured TV network Trump has in mind.
Becca, good DJ's don't just show up play some tunes for a couple hours and go home. Each gig takes many hours of preparation, set up, tear down, planning, meetings and travel. For every hour a DJ plays, add at least 6-8 behind the scenes. Depending on the gig, much more.
Unfortunately that's what a lot of people think of artists and musicians, that it's "easy," only one or two days a week, and that you just show up and leave, what an easy, lazy gig. Sigh, I went through that kind of judgment when I played weddings and funerals. Each gig took many many hours of preparation, travel, research, and meetings. It was by no means a 2 hour thing and I expected to be appropriately compensated for the prep time as well. Eventually I stopped doing that when the workload became too much to do that and a full time job.
That said, I agree with you that it's scary to think about what was said, and done, to Hannah when she came home. God bless that child, and I'm very sorry for her.
As far as the comments about politics, as I said, the only thing I don't understand is why, bottom line for me is if sexual assault is an issue for you, you should not see Hillary as the alternative. She is part and parcel to numerous sexual assaults, which we just found out are ongoing. This is well documented. I don't understand it. Either it's a campaign issue for you or not, but if it is, neither candidate should be considered appropriate. Vote for Johnson, I guess.
Well, that's interesting, if true. (Please forgive my skepticism, which I think is self-explanatory.)
If Collin was home, and filming, it would seem to suggest that his professional counselors don't think that's a problem. If he was there with their knowledge. I am assuming he is only home for a short stay---or else why would Kate have made the big story about his being sent away from home? Was she afraid it would leak out from somewhere else?
It's interesting that Andrea is still around. Why? Why would Kate need her help with six well-traveled 12-year-olds in the local corn maze, where they have filmed numerous times before? At this point she seems more like a prop for Kate than a real nanny for the kids.
I can't even get into how juvenile it is for them still to be filming activities they were doing at ages 3 and up. No marks for creativity, that's for sure. Of course there'll be pumpkin carving, etc.
Anyway---I guess we'll know when/if this ever airs. We seem to be getting further and further from the "reality" of their real life as time goes on.
but I'll take Clinton any day over a PROVEN misogynistic, sexist, racist, overblown, arrogant, idiotic cheater. Admin, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'm outta here until after the election.
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The thing is that Hillary has been proven to be a liar, has been involved in sketchy dealings, is a known exaggerator (the "hail of gunfire," for example), and the deleting of 30,000 e-mails, and not knowing what is classified and what isn't, and what to do with e-mails. This was not a simple "mistake" because the security of the country was at risk. Could she actually be an effective President if she's clueless about e-mails and our national security? It really does seem, for some people, to be a decision between the lesser of two evils. I distrust her more than I distrust him, based on the shady dealings both she and her husband have had in the past, and perhaps are on-going.
They're not too old for a corn maze as long as it's challenging enough and not a baby one. But they are way too old to have to be saddled to their mother and siblings and cameras. They are well old enough to be allowed to go off with friends and enjoy this with friends their age.
See, my assumption is that they had to throw away all of most of what the apparently filmed from Feb (when we heard they filmed in the snow and which somehow aired in Poland) up through June or so. Or maybe they'll just pastiche totally unrelated segments together. It wouldn't make any less sense than the typical episode does now.
Or she could have hired a crew to film for a YouTube channel. Doesn't sound like much of a crew was with her if that post is true AND there have been no Twitter sightings. I would find it hard to believe that Collin's therapists would think filming would be beneficial. We've all seen how withdrawn he was during filming.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 13 They're not too old for a corn maze as long as it's challenging enough and not a baby one. But they are way too old to have to be saddled to their mother and siblings and cameras. They are well old enough to be allowed to go off with friends and enjoy this with friends their age. **** My thoughts exactly. This is being filmed so Kate can sit on her throne and go on and on about how many years ago it was when they filmed their first trip, and how she's survived, and blah, blah, blah. I'm happy Colin is with his family. I just can't for the life of me understand how continuing to put him in the spotlight isn't fought tooth and nail by Jon (and I don't know that he isn't!) and his medical team. I mean, when Colin comes back into the filming fold, and his return is made public, all eyes are going to be on him. I just think it's sick. Take the kids to the maze, sure, but ffs, leave the cameras.
I'm still wondering if it's TLC filming. I mean, virtually everything they film is a repeat. Are they paying production to do nothing but film the same sh*t over and over again?
I'd say good luck with the ratings, but Kate is going to milk Colin's situation for maximum viewing.
And TLC's Kate FB page is so dead, they've repeated today the same post about chocolate and red wine that was posted a mere three days ago. Heck, the DC Cupcake girls have more posts on that page than anything related to K8.
I've learned to be skeptical about sightings until they're verified either by others who were there or when a show or YouTube video airs. If they were out, even for filming, I hope they had lots of fun!
It's admin's blog...she can do as she likes with it. But I am uninterested in political talk here, thinking that that there are other blogs more appropriate for political talk. I come here for TFW discussion.
I used to read here frequently, now hardly ever. Too bad, I liked this blog.
I stumbled upon a Reddit post in which someone talked about seeing the G kids filming in Orlando in 2011. They said the children, nanny and a bodyguard were on the same floor with the poster. So, when the ca,eras shut down, Kate doesn't actually sleep in the same apartment/room/whaever with her kids. It's all for the kids.
Just when I thought the political stiff was dying down....
I thought twice about whether to read here today after posts 1-3. I had taken to skipping all Admin's posts, but they were short and took me by surprise.
It is Admin's blog and she can use it any way she wants, but I do have to wonder why she persists in posting things that are not only not convincing anyone but are making many people question her judgment.
miloandjack2016 LOL. So cute to see. #PapaShoka still has active dreams! Probably chasing one of his rubber legless chickens! 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 And how nice to see despite ridiculous #TabloidGossip that your kids are doing the normal fun things pre teens do! Who knew ? #SleepOvers #FunWeekends. 😃 @kateplusmy8
It's admin's blog...she can do as she likes with it. But I am uninterested in political talk here, thinking that that there are other blogs more appropriate for political talk. I come here for TFW discussion.
I used to read here frequently, now hardly ever.
Too bad, I liked this blog.
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Gosh. I thought there was a substantial amount of posts the last several weeks or so that discussed Kate and her kids, especially in light of the recent stories that came out in the tabloids. It's been a good discussion. I just skip over the political posts if I'm really not feeling Trump or Clinton. That didn't come out right, did it?
I actually sometimes want to talk about things other than the Gosselins, especially this week when all it's been about is Kate being a psychopath and the things she's said about her children's father. It gets sick to think about after awhile.
We have a long history here of going off topic. I think scroll is the best solution.
jillell Deleting negative comments don't mean they never existed. Your fans are freaks who need their fix gawking at your kids. I hope they sue you and tlc when they're grown.
barbgilmer1 @jillell You know what? There are many things happening on the show in its entirety, not just the kids! So why don't you take your negative Nelly attitude and go bug somebody else!
What else to see besides the kids and dogs, Barb? Kate on a date? Been there, done that. I think they should film more scenes of Kate and Steve screaming at each other and leave the kids out of it. I'm sure that would be vastly more amusing.
barbgilmer1 @jillell You know what? There are many things happening on the show in its entirety, not just the kids! So why don't you take your negative Nelly attitude and go bug somebody else!
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The shows are almost all about the kids. It's very rare an episode doesn't directly involve the kids in nearly every "scene"? What the heck is she talking about? It's one thing to defend that woman but don't lie doing so.
Is Milo delusional? Does she even read the articles? It's not a rumor. It's an actual, bonafide police report. How is that a rumor? In writing, Kate accused Jon of disgusting and abusive acts.
This is one of those things where no media is going to say something like that without the evidence in hand, lest they encounter a lawsuit. The first story from last year about Hannah was a "rumor." Now it's not a rumor, it's a fact. They waited to go this far until they had the evidence in hand.
I almost feel like Milo is confusing the word rumor with the word gossiping. They're not the same thing. It may be "gossip" but it's true gossip.
jillell @barbgilmer1 it's ALWAYS ABOUT THE KIDS. quit yer Lyin'. 😂😂
jillell @Lady_litt I DONT follow her. Gross. @barbgilmer1 😂whatever makes you feel better about gawking at a shrew and her poor kids.
jillell Plus @lady_litt it's ALWAYS ABOUT HER KIDS OR YOU FREAKY FANS WOULD REVOLT. why you all enjoy watching her and contributing to the abuse and exploitation of those kids is freaking bizarre.
I'd actually like to know how 2 siblings plus one dog at home in their own basement qualifies as a "sleepover." Perhaps this is the only kind the kids are allowed.
Is Milo delusional? Does she even read the articles? It's not a rumor. It's an actual, bonafide police report. How is that a rumor? In writing, Kate accused Jon of disgusting and abusive acts.
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She doesn't understand that. The journals were altered; everything that doesn't put her love interest in a good light is either gossip, rumor, libel, or whatever, regardless if it's documented. She will blame someone for altering the police report. Her local law enforcement is against her. There is something seriously wrong with Gladys. She needs help out of this Celebrity Worship Syndrome, but I'm afraid it's too late for that. She is enjoying her position as Chief Executive Ewe far too much. Bleating is a full time job for her.
"What else to see besides the kids and dogs, Barb? Kate on a date? Been there, done that. I think they should film more scenes of Kate and Steve screaming at each other and leave the kids out of it. I'm sure that would be vastly more amusing."
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Where is Zorro? Is he still alive, or has he been put somewhere on the back burner and is no longer her shiny new toy? If the puppies are in the house, how much time does Zorro spend outside his cage? She was so excited because Zorro was talking (which I doubt), and yet we hear nothing about his chattering or if he has memorized the dictionary.
Regarding the political discussions. We've had womanizers and cheaters in the White House going way back to Jefferson and Sallie Hemings. Why would it be any different now? I recently watched a documentary on JFK and Judith Campbell Exner (allegedly a two-year affair) and the mob. My gosh, he was a busy man, and he still had time to deal with Castro and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
miloandjack2016 And how nice to see despite ridiculous #TabloidGossip that your kids are doing the normal fun things pre teens do! Who knew ? #SleepOvers #FunWeekends. 😃 @katep ======== Sorry Milo but if you read the #SleepOvers tweet and TFW's comment it seems that the #SleepOver is nothing more than one of the girls sleeping in the basement with her brother and they watch movies together. What would be more normal would be the kids having #SleepOvers with their friends!
Anyone else waiting for The Walking Dead premier tonight? I, for one, can't wait!
Regarding the political discussions. We've had womanizers and cheaters in the White House going way back to Jefferson and Sallie Hemings. Why would it be any different now?
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You bet we have. The idea that anyone thinks not voting for Trump is a vote for women's rights, is a real head shaker. Folks, we don't have a choice here. The two major candidates offered to us have both treated women deplorably.
@Admin Its not(well she is)her being delusional,its just her basically putting her fingers in her ears and avoid the truth.Which goes back to what you said about the belief of Kate DMing her fans something like this.I do agree with someone who said its hard to tell what milo really knows and whats a figment of her imagination.To be honest admin,even if your belief about Kate DMing fans is true,this doesn't mean Milo or anyone of her loyal followers knows what goes on(Unless Kate shows them proof whether its a video or a court document).They'd just be taking Kate's word for it,even though Kate knows darn well they'll believe anything she tells them.But like i said,they're pretty much getting her side and not the opposing side.
For Milo, Kate could admit to committing first degree murder, with evidence and proof filling an entire prosecutor's chambers, and Gladys would still maintain that the evidence was planted, everyone was against her, and the entire case was built on lies, perjury, and of course the jury was biased because Jon and the tabloids all hated her.
That's the way Kravitz rolls. She's really a sad little person.
NJGal51 (#39), and the fact that the G kids' personal Saturday night plans have been broadcast across the planet by their mother automatically makes them NOT "normal."
Milo is constitutionally incapable of ever letting it rest. I doubt whether she'll get an answer to this one; after all, Kate didn't answer Barb, who asked the same question, though not quite as coyly.
miloandjack2016 Ok...since you said #sooner....may we assume BEFORE 2016 is over? #MissQueenOfTease. 😋 @kateplusmy8
FlimsyFlamsy said... 44 NJGal51 (#39), and the fact that the G kids' personal Saturday night plans have been broadcast across the planet by their mother automatically makes them NOT "normal."
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Yes, and she knows better than to broadcast Mady and Cara's Saturday night since they are getting older.
Why would she even broadcast it with the younger kids? The kids privacy is not even on her radar. Is it because she is on tv and thinks that since she is that it makes it our business?
I admire real celebs that go the extra mile to protect their children from the public. There are many stars I have seen in the tabloids over the years and may have gotten a glimpse of them when they were a child and then it is years later when they are 17 or 18 years old and many celebs, I knew had one or two.
But a couple of years later, now, there is three or four kids and I go, I didn't know they had 4 kids!
She doesn't understand that. The journals were altered; everything that doesn't put her love interest in a good light is either gossip, rumor, libel, or whatever, regardless if it's documented. She will blame someone for altering the police report.
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You know I wonder if the reason Milo is talking about something so awkward for Kate is that she is trying to put out a feeler to Kate to see if Kate will make a comment about a story that interests Milo.
In other words Milo is talking about it for Milo's benefit. Selfish, as usual. A normal fan wouldn't dare bring up this story.
GollyGee (#46), I just read an interview with 2 people from "The Real World" who met on the show, fell in love, and have been married for 15 years. They have a son and daughter, and didn't even allow their kids' NAMES to be printed in the article. Talk about being careful to respect your children's privacy!
Milo is constitutionally incapable of ever letting it rest. I doubt whether she'll get an answer to this one; after all, Kate didn't answer Barb, who asked the same question, though not quite as coyly.
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She can't let anything rest. Once she gets fixated on something, she simply won't move on. Is this a kind of physiological disorder when the brain misfires and she really can't help it, or is she just your garden variety pest?
October 23, 2016 at 6:02 PM FlimsyFlamsy said... 48 GollyGee (#46), I just read an interview with 2 people from "The Real World" who met on the show, fell in love, and have been married for 15 years. They have a son and daughter, and didn't even allow their kids' NAMES to be printed in the article. Talk about being careful to respect your children's privacy!
*************** Funny you should mention The Real World. There is another couple who were on different seasons of that show that are married. He is now a Congressman for his state and they have....wait for it....8 (yep, 8!) kids. Somehow they are managing to raise their family without a reality show. Lol.
barbgilmer1 Everyone block jillell , see this is why Kates not on Twitter anymore I guarantee it!!
barbgilmer1@jillell go bug the Kardashian's on how they let their youngest daughter have plastic surgery!! Have a nice night and a good life!!
I think Kate's not on Twitter anymore because she can't handle all of the questions. She'll be back when TLC tells her it's time for a Twitter follow party. And you really wanna go there with the plastic surgery, Barb? ____
tunanoodlecasserole85 Does it creep you out that one of your fans comments MANY times on each post you make?
Hmm, now who could that be? _____
miloandjack2016And thanks for the #Mak update & pic!! Hope he is back to full speed? The pic w/him & red ball w/shades of red leaves in them background was beautiful! #GoodEyeForPhotography. ❤ @kateplusmy8
No one's ever said she has a good eye for photography before, and that's a fact. Good one, Milo.
Kate doesn't need to be on Twitter when Milo brings everything she says on IG over there.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago So here is latest hint from @Kateplusmy8 on #IG "KATE PLUS 8 is coming back sooner than you think, to all who keep asking:)" #Anticipation
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h3 hours ago So here is latest hint from @Kateplusmy8 on #IG "KATE PLUS 8 is coming back sooner than you think, to all who keep asking:)" #Anticipation
Has anyone dared to ask Gladys if it's KATE PLUS 8 or KATE PLUS 7? After all, she knows everything, and according to her, TLC has confirmed that the show will air in January. Will it be EIGHT kids or SEVEN, Milo?
Milo would be ecstatic if it's just KATE PLUS 0. Kids, what kids?
FLMom (#50), actually, the mother of those 8 kids, Rachel Campos Duffy, has been a frequent guest host on The View -- which TFW referred to as one of the "chairs of my dreams." Pretty telling that with the revolving door of hosts over the past few seasons, TFW couldn't even scare up a one-day interim spot between hires. I suspect she has a horrible reputation with industry insiders, and has lost countless opportunities. If she'd played her cards right over the past decade, I think should could have been wealthy beyond her wildest dreams.
I just saw on TMZ that Mariah Carey was at a Halloween party with her ex, Nick Cannon, and their twins. Guess she loves her kids more than she hates her ex.
Susie Cincinnati said... 55 . . . Has anyone dared to ask Gladys if it's KATE PLUS 8 or KATE PLUS 7? _____
Oh it'll be Plus 8. Because you know there'll be some tender heart-warming scenes where Kate will say how he's always with them in spirit, or some such drivel. I do wonder if the other kids will talk about him and, if so, what they've been scripted to say.
She went private on Twitter a while ago. On IG, it seems that even if you are private (which Barb's account is), your comments on others' IG accounts do show up publicly. I don't have a clear understanding of how all this works since I don't do any of it myself.
I gotta think Gladys isn't too thrilled with someone else answering questions on TFW's behalf. That's her raison d'etre (*waves to Tucker's Mom*). She seems to think she's a very important part of Team TFW, and wouldn't want to feel like she could be replaced. And all this puppy mishegas has really gotten her, to borrow her own expression, fire up for TFW more than ever.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 48 GollyGee (#46), I just read an interview with 2 people from "The Real World" who met on the show, fell in love, and have been married for 15 years. They have a son and daughter, and didn't even allow their kids' NAMES to be printed in the article. Talk about being careful to respect your children's privacy!
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They deserve a medal for going that far to protect their children! And the Senator and his wife, too! They are raising their children away from the cameras!
Raising children WITHOUT a reality tv show and you can still SURVIVE?
Not sure if i believe that sighting with the corn maze.Like with some here i've been skeptical about sighting until there's a tweet or picture of it like with this target sighting back in September.I get that not many care about Kate anymore but i feel there would at least be that one person who would tweet about seeing them whether its a hater or fan.Im completely lost when it comes to how much filming they did and what is filmed.
She went private on Twitter a while ago. On IG, it seems that even if you are private (which Barb's account is), your comments on others' IG accounts do show up publicly. I don't have a clear understanding of how all this works since I don't do any of it myself.
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Thanks, Sad. I am totally social media-challenged. I don't even know the difference between IG and Twitter, and what is involved in communication on IG. I read Kate's TL on Twitter, but that's about it. FB thoroughly confuses me!
I thought Barb went private when the non-fans were giving her all that grief about de-clawing her cats.
It's simple. Going private on IG can only make your page private to just your approved followers. When you go around liking and posting on other people's IG feeds it's not private if that feed is public. I wonder if some of the sheep don't realize that.
Here's the link to Kate's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kateplusmy8/?hl=en
The thing I find confusing about IG is that the order of the comments seems to be random and move around. If you are looking at Kate's comments, when she answers someone you have to look for that person's ID (which she puts in her comment), because the question might be far away from the reply. Otherwise, it's pretty straightforward.
I'm also a bit skeptical about the maze sighting but who knows. It's just so redundant and while not babyish, the kids could be doing stuff that's way more grown up. Plus, I can't get past filming Colin as soon as he returns home. It's such bullsh*t that this kid goes to inpatient treatment for emotional and behavioral problems, then has to work and put be thrust right back in the public eye. What mother would risk adding something to his plate like that?
What mother would risk adding something to his plate like that?
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She. Doesn't. Care. As long as she can film and make that 40K check.
She. Didn't. Care. When Cara had a badly sprained ankle that was hurting her, but she told a nanny that was there to take her so she could stay and film Family Night in the basement.
One of many examples.
Any mother that wouldn't take their own child to the drs. office because they were hurt and chose to stay home and film to make that money is a very vile, greedy, insensitive, inhumane person.
Some time after TLC dropped her in 2011, Kate disappeared from that site. I don't know if she's really not a client anymore. But maybe Steve, as "road manager" (which is what Kate called him in her TLC exit interview published in People at the time), is now serving as her manager/agent. Or maybe there's just no benefit to May advertising her association with Kate. It's been at least 4 years or so her name was removed.
. They have a son and daughter, and didn't even allow their kids' NAMES to be printed in the article. Talk about being careful to respect your children's privacy! ---------- Same is true for Alexis Bledel. heck, she even managed to keep the fact that she had given birth a secret, until a former co-star spilled the beans. There are no photos of Bledel's kid, no name, not even a birthday. Keep in mind Alexis is around the age Kate was when she first sold the kids, yet it seems even at a young age some mothers are capable of making the right choices.
RoxyHelen (#75), thanks for that Alexis Bledel story. I'm a big Gilmore Girls fan, and am happy to know that about her.
It's TFW's hypocrisy about privacy that gets my goat. She filmed her toddlers sitting on potties with their pants around their ankles, but, uh oh, better put masking tape on their backpacks while traveling so no one sees their names. She's revealed intimate details about each child's personal quirks and preferences for a decade, with a camera crew in tow to document every experience, yet she whined on Twitter about losing trees in a storm because they gave her privacy.
I think Kate was so excited to make money by selling the kids, she had a singular focus on doing it. The thought of not nursing was all important. You could see how she hated the though of having to go into work.
The more that comes out, the more insane this story gets. Obviously, this is a woman with way too much time on her hands. And I wonder if using the kids' trusts for certain expenses extends to a private investigator to stalk their dad. Unbelievable.
What must this school think of her? From ROL story:
"“Katie said that she hired a private detective to follow Jonathan and she was aware that Jonathan was at [the children’s school] right now,” the responding officer wrote in the April 27, 2015 incident report from Manheim Township Police Department.
“Katie believed that Jonathan was guarding [Hannah] and feared that if he saw her or the police, he would take [her] out of school and flee.”
According to officers, Kate arrived to the school, but Jon was nowhere to be found. She eventually took her daughter home from class.
As Radar previously reported, sources close to Jon said Kate’s concerns about her ex’s relationship with their little girl were completely unfounded."
Has TFW finally told her fans when the show will return or is she still teasing them about it?
I wrote to TLC last week and they replied today. "Dear Viewer, Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your interest in our programming. Kate Plus 8 is scheduled to air on November 22, 2016." (with the usual disclaimer that of course programming is subject to change) Signed by "viewer relations". No mention of whether it's a new season of shows, one episode, whether it's a new episode or a rerun, just the date. LOL It's interesting that they're airing during the holiday season. Did they do this once before?
If TFW hasn't announced the date yet, I wonder how long it'll take for this info to filter thru the blogs to them. lol
RoxyHelen (#78), yes, I'm quite excited about the Gilmore Girls reboot!
Sherri (#83), I'll give Gladys until midnight before she takes the air date info over to Twitter. Can't do it too quickly, or she'll be busted for reading here at the cesspool of hate!
"Dear Viewer, Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your interest in our programming. Kate Plus 8 is scheduled to air on November 22, 2016." (with the usual disclaimer that of course programming is subject to change) Signed by "viewer relations". ================
So TLC says that Kate plus 8 is returning Nov. 22? Interesting that there is no mention of it on the Kate plus 8 FB page. Little People, Big World and Outdaughtered are both returning in November, and both of their FB pages(that are run by TLC) have already announced their air dates and times.
Little People, Big World October 22 at 1:05pm · Like if you can't wait for the return of #LPBW on Tuesday, November 22 at 8/7c!
OutDaughtered October 19 at 1:18pm · The babies are on the move! Watch the new season of #OutDaughtered on November 15 at 9/8c
The local police must be so sick of the Gosselin crap already. I think this pretty much convinces me that Kate won't stop until Jon has his parental rights terminated, or he's put behind bars. Or both. What a toxic environment SHE has created.
To add to my previous post, TLC.com also shows the new air dates for Little People, Big World and Outdaughtered on both of their pages. But nada on the Kate plus 8 page.
November 22. So they probably want to use the footage they recently shot and the footage they shot in Jan-Feb is either:
a) getting tossed b) airing in jan 2017, making it season apropriate and potentially getting people to believe it was just shot
Right?
What I think the Nov footage will be: -Collin's issues segment-victim Kate, struggling to do what's best for beloved son, Collin painted as a kid with many issues. Kate will make a point of saying the remaining 7 are THRIVING in school, though adjusting to their brother's hardship -Haloween footage with throw back footage to the previous pumpkin patches, Jon will be cut out of the old clips -at least some mention of Mady and Cara's 16th birthday -Jon being thrown under the bus by Kate, more or less subtly -PUPPIES.PUPPIES.PUPPIES. -did I mention puppies? -Zorro, to show us he is still alive -Shoka, to show us how well he is treated
November 22, huh? Just goes to show, they don't tell her nuthin'! LOL, I wonder why that is. And why would they have TWO debuts on the same date? I guess either LPBW or Outdaughtered is the designated lead-in, IF this date is actually accurate. Gah, she makes me sick.
A private investigator??? What a horrific waste of money.
She's insane. Just insane.
What is she trying to accomplish here? She already has plenty of custody. She can film the kids and Jon hasn't been able to stop it. She's successfully alienated three of them, congrats. She really cares that just five of the kids see him once in awhile? Even that is too much for her? Why doesn't she just enjoy the break when they visit and move on?
It's safe to assume the investigator uncovered nothing or she would have been running to court with it to restrict him down to nothing. I'm sorry you made babies with that woman, Jon. Now, you're paying.
There really is something to be said for her having too much time on her hands. She needs to get a job and work when she's not filming. In all seriousness, I really think it would help her rambling manic mind from developing all kinds of wild scenarios about Jon, if she just kept herself a little busier.
Kate is so confusing,she's been giving her fans random air dates like May,June,October and then January.Now on IG she said "Oh its coming back sooner then you think."According to Sherri comments,TLC is saying November.If true,then why doesn't Kate just tell her fans the actual airdate since she's been giving them random airdates this whole year?SMH don't tell your fans possible airdates then turn around and tease fans saying its coming back sooner but not give them the airdate.
And so TLC will just air Kate's show, keep on filming, meanwhile, it's a fricking horror show. I can't imagine the emotional trauma those kids have gone through. The thing is, it's no secret how bad thing are at home for those kids, yet people still demand to see them on their tvs.
"“Jonathan has been picking her up early from school instead of letting her come home on the bus with her siblings,” Kate told officers, according to the Manheim Township Police Department incident report filed on April 27, 2015.
PHOTOS: So ‘Upset!’ Jon Gosselin Lashes Out After Kate Sends Son Away To Treatment
As Radar reported earlier today, Kate admitted to cops that she had hired a private investigator to trail Jon, 39, and learned that he was at their kids’ school that very minute.
“Katie believed that Jonathan was guarding her and feared that if he saw her or the police, he would take [Hannah] out of school and flee,” cops continued in their report.
The hysterical mother of eight said she intended to send her daughter to a counselor immediately following Jon’s alleged actions.
“She was going to insist that they release [her] into her custody so that she can take [her] to a therapist to see if anything would be disclosed,” police wrote."
So Jon took Hannah out of school/picked her up directly and Kate thought he was abusing her? If she was sent to a therapist or counselor and anything was discovered, I assume Jon's parental rights would have been affected, for all the kids. This is just getting bizarre.
So her plan was to rush Hannah right over to a therapist and demand that Hannah disclose any abuse to the therapist? Wth???
Man, she really loses her mind whenever something doesn't go her way. The second Hannah just needed a little break from some bickering between Kate and Steve, Kate went apeshit.
You take a kid to a therapist enough demanding they disclose "abuse" and next thing you know the therapist is reporting YOU.
This almost sounds like a form of munchhausen syndrome by proxy, if she were to take the child repeatedly to therapists demanding they uncover abuse by Jon.
"“Jonathan has been picking her up early from school instead of letting her come home on the bus with her siblings,” Kate told officers, according to the Manheim Township Police Department incident report filed on April 27, 2015.
“Katie believed that Jonathan was guarding her and feared that if he saw her or the police, he would take [Hannah] out of school and flee,” cops continued in their report." ============
From the original InTouch story published in May 2015:
"During a visit with her father on April 23, “She said she didn’t want to go home to her mom [Kate] because she can’t take the cruelty anymore,” an insider exclusively reveals to In Touch. “Hannah was so afraid of her mom that Jon became concerned and called [Berks County, Pennsylvania] Children & Youth Services and filed a report — and he took emergency custody of Hannah” — without a court order."
If Hannah was afraid of Kate and didn't want to go home, why wouldn't Jon pick her up at school? Apparently he was concerned for Hannah, and was "guarding her" from Kate.
So Kate decided that Hannah needed to see a therapist because Hannah didn't want to go home to her? Of course, she wouldn't think that she was the reason behind it, and that it must be something that Jon did. Just shows how she considers herself blameless for anything, and it must always be someone else's fault if things don't go her way.
To all the people who have raked Jon over the coals and called him every name in the book for not doing more to be with his kids, this is all some insight into what he's been up against. What a despicable human being TFW is. And what a horrible mother.
You take a kid to a therapist enough demanding they disclose "abuse" and next thing you know the therapist is reporting YOU.
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...and there's the possibility that if this is done repeatedly, the child may actually believe he/she was abused.
"The local police must be so sick of the Gosselin crap already."
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I wonder if both law enforcement agencies are sick of her. She's in Berks County. The school is located in Manheim Township, Lancaster County, so that's where those reports were made. Hasn't she also filed reports in her own area? It seems to me that she did.
"“Jonathan has been picking her up early from school instead of letting her come home on the bus with her siblings,” Kate told officers, according to the Manheim Township Police Department incident report filed on April 27, 2015."
What does this mean? It sounds like she wanted to ride home with him on occasion---it doesn't read like she didn't go home at the end of the ride. I think Kate was far more afraid of what Hannah might have been telling Jon about what was going on with Collin. It also doesn't say that Jon was outside of his rights to pick up his daughter from school---you'd think if that were the case, Kate would have said so to the police.
What a mess. I doubt we'll ever get close to the truth of what happened, but I will never believe that Jon was doing anything inappropriate with his daughter. If TLC understands how sick Kate Gosselin is, and still airs what she films, they are in for a world of hurt some day soon.
EXCLUSIVE! KATE GOSSELIN ABUSE SCANDAL By dsiegel Mar 26, 2015 @ 17:17PM http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-kate-gosselin-abuse-scandal/
KATE FILED HER COMPLAINT in April 2015, against Jon,one month after he filed his concern and allegations against Kate for child abuse in court. What the HELL is wrong with the media that they don't research information before publishing this BS? I hope that Jon sues ALL of them,including Kate!
I would assume that if TFW rushed Hannah to a counselor Hannah would have disclosed what she'd told Jon about TFW and the problems at home. I doubt that TFW rushed her anywhere but home for filming.
November 22? That's the week of Thanksgiving. All the major shows have their mid-season cliffhanger the week before and don't resume until January because they know people are busy with family during the holidays.
Probably for the best, she'd get creamed by the NCIS, NCIS:NO, and Bull juggernaut if she was up against first-run episodes.
I imagine Kate was hoping she could plant the seed in Hannah's mind that Jon was paying her too much attention and get her to make some kind of vague statement to a therapist that would be just enough to start an investigation on Jon. The truth is irrelevant, she wanted Jon to suffer for giving Hannah a safe space away from Kate.
"Kate Gosselin didn’t mince words in a shocking lawsuit against her ex-husband, Jon Gosselin. In the bombshell police report — obtained exclusively by In Touch — the mother-of-eight not only accuses Jon of being a drug dealer, but also alleges he has a “suspicious” relationship with their daughter Hannah."
Which lawsuit was that? I'm really out of the loop here.
MikeB said... 104 November 22? That's the week of Thanksgiving. All the major shows have their mid-season cliffhanger the week before and don't resume until January because they know people are busy with family during the holidays. ______
Well, but, as noted above, they're bringing back outdaughtered on 11.15 and LPBW on 11/22. This is TLC, they don't have too many good choices.
To the extent that Steve Neild has aided and abetted Kate's very sick vendetta against her ex-husband, he should be ashamed of himself. There's gotta be better ways of making a living than catering to a lunatic shrew 24/7 and helping her destroy her children's relationships with their father. If yo're still married to him, Gina, then shame on you, too.
Speaking of this story,here is Milo's deflective tweet with a platitude that saids."Im not going to tear you down...If you're bad mouthing me,you're already down" Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5h5 hours ago
For the #KnowItAll Critics & Trolls... @Kateplusmy8
Jamezvader1194 (#110), oy, Gladys and her sappy sayings. She could've expressed the same sentiment with the lyrics to one-hit wonder Chumbawumba's classic survival song: "I get knocked down, but I get up again, you ain't never gonna keep me down!"
Well, but, as noted above, they're bringing back outdaughtered on 11.15 and LPBW on 11/22. This is TLC, they don't have too many good choices. ------------------------- I think 90 Day Fiance is taking off for them.
handinhand said... 114 Well, but, as noted above, they're bringing back outdaughtered on 11.15 and LPBW on 11/22. This is TLC, they don't have too many good choices. ------------------------- I think 90 Day Fiance is taking off for them. ________
Great. At least that show is built on consenting adults.
This all happened 1 1/2 yrs ago. Perhaps the Court settled things....The kids are living with Kate, Jon still sees some of the kids (as before), and Jon still says that he still doesn't know why he doesn't see all of the kids. What's changed? Perhaps Kate was ordered into therapy. The kids were in Counseling when the People magazine was issued. Who knows. The whole family - Jon included - have alot of issues to deal with.
I kind of wonder now if Jon claiming he doesn't know why the kids don't visit is not true at all. But rather the best way to prevent questions and further prying that would bring out all this garbage and upset Kate. Thus making things worse for the kids. I really do feel like this was that missing piece I always felt was out there.
@Sad but true I never gave any of Milo's platitudes much thought but to be honest,these platitudes sound dumb and try to act as though they have such great meaning behind them when they don't.Like i simply google search single mom platitudes and the first thing i see is something Milo would share to Kate but it doesn't sound like something that's intelligent or has any big meaning behind it.Hell,some of them sound very sexist towards men.Like i saw two that said that single moms should celebrate father's dad as well and talk about deadbeat fathers.Yet when i search single dad platitudes the 1st thing i get is "Dad's depression,and its something about paying child support."In fact,there aren't a whole lot of platitudes that have to do with single dads.
I agree, he needs to own whatever role he played. It's really unclear where he stands, but I can't imagine Kate would keep him around if he were trying to talk some sense into her about Jon. Though who knows.
I have to admit I'm very curious what they were bickering about. Isn't it possible they were bickering over how she is handling the Jon situation?
She has lost a lot of family and friends over the years. It's quite possible the majority of the losses involve moral stands on the part of those people who could not stand by and "support" her and her actions by remaining in that relationship with her. They had to leave to send the message they do not condone her.
Shamelessly standing by someone taking part in terrible behavior, whether it is a marriage, or friendship, or whatever kind of relationship, IS condoning it. Which is why women who stand by their destructive man should be held accountable for that.
Philly 4 for 4 said... 116 . . . Perhaps Kate was ordered into therapy. The kids were in Counseling when the People magazine was issued. Who knows. The whole family - Jon included - have alot of issues to deal with. _____
Kate said they were in counseling. You believe her? I don't. I don't believe anything she says.
Looks like some of the media can't understand the difference between filing a police report and filing a lawsuit. Lol, two vastly different things.
On another note I really wish the media would just publish the police report in full. I would rather read it myself then have the media summarize it for me and mess that up.
What a mess. I doubt we'll ever get close to the truth of what happened, but I will never believe that Jon was doing anything inappropriate with his daughter.
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On the contrary, a normal person reads that and sees someone trying to help their daughter.
We have a clear statement from the police that Hannah was upset over some bickering at Kate's house. In response, Jon took some action--arranging different transportation for her from school, letting her stay over at his place when she needed a break, etc.
Whether that was the right or wrong way to handle it, obviously a parent's heart is in the right place when intervening like that.
So Kate decided that Hannah needed to see a therapist because Hannah didn't want to go home to her? Of course, she wouldn't think that she was the reason behind it, and that it must be something that Jon did. Just shows how she considers herself blameless for anything, and it must always be someone else's fault if things don't go her way.
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That's right, she is blameless, and it's always someone else's fault.
And I'll go even further than that; she has an incredible amount of confidence, or delusion, that service providers, police, and other authorities will completely see things her way, no questions asked. When they don't, she seems truly shocked and gets revved up even more.
She is so convinced she has this called right, she was ready to throw her child in front of a therapist. It doesn't occur to her that any therapist worth their salt is going to be raising some serious red flags about her behavior and her handling of this situation, and have some serious questions about her allegations. A child's therapist is there for the CHILD, and has no obligation to Kate. Kate is in such another world, she really thinks a therapist is going to say yes Kate, let me help us get to the bottom of this abuse! We must save the children together!
So Kate decided that Hannah needed to see a therapist because Hannah didn't want to go home to her? Of course, she wouldn't think that she was the reason behind it, and that it must be something that Jon did. Just shows how she considers herself blameless for anything, and it must always be someone else's fault if things don't go her way.
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Well! Turns out, the tabloid trash has a great source there. Keep that one on the till.
@Admin I think the reason for that its because Kate sees her fans always believe whatever she says must be true so in her mind she thinks everyone will believe her.In her mind,all she has to do is play the victim of being the single mom of 8 raising them by herself and she'll think everyone will feel sorry for her.Sorry honey but not everyone is gonna to get fooled by you and will see right though you.
@Admin I think the reason for that its because Kate sees her fans always believe whatever she says must be true so in her mind she thinks everyone will believe her
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Yes you're right that surely could have contributed to it.
It seems a lot of celebs suffer from this, in that when everyone around you becomes a yes man, you start to believe your own publicity. When someone suddenly says no, you can't believe it.
It's not unlike a child. If you always tell them yes, of course they're going to tantrum the rare time you tell them no.
I think we can be sure that Kate won't make the same mistake again. I'm sure once the police actually spoke to Hannah and she told them what was bothering her, it must have come as quite a shock to Kate. No doubt she denied it, but I think the police learned something they maybe didn't know before.
I wonder what happened to Hannah once Kate got her home. I bet the roof came off.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 117 I kind of wonder now if Jon claiming he doesn't know why the kids don't visit is not true at all. But rather the best way to prevent questions and further prying that would bring out all this garbage and upset Kate. Thus making things worse for the kids. I really do feel like this was that missing piece I always felt was out there.
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If that's the reason, then why go on numerous programs, and have nothing really to say except, that he has no idea why he doesn't see the kids. It seems that he didn't attempt/succeed to seek custody of Hannah. Again, this is 1 1/2 yrs old news, and it seems nothing has changed. Something is missing.
If that's the reason, then why go on numerous programs, and have nothing really to say except, that he has no idea why he doesn't see the kids. It seems that he didn't attempt/succeed to seek custody of Hannah. Again, this is 1 1/2 yrs old news, and it seems nothing has changed. Something is missing. _____
I don't know about you, but if I was suddenly forced to confront, VIA THE POLICE, the sort of accusations she made against him, I can tell you I would very reluctant to bait the beast. He's still seeing some of his kids, so that's great. And it could be he's being very careful now if he's trying to build a case for additional custody. She paid someone to follow him, for chrissake. Who knows what else she might pay someone to do if she decides he's a threat to her limelight? It might seem like nothing has changed (and that's what Kate would like you to think), but I could understand why he'd not be advertising it at this point.
(Sorry, I'm a bit behind.) I think the time Aaden and Alexis spent with Shoka was called a sleepover because, as we know, Shoka isn't normally allowed to sleep inside. It was a special treat to spend time inside with the kids.
I, too, would like to see the whole police report about Jon. I think it could be interesting. I know Kate and Jon do not get along at all. But most divorced people do not have a bunch of police reports. They just handle things. Even if they dislike each other, they somehow come to an agreement when necessary. Kate needs to call the police and hire a private detective. She is consumed by her hatred of Jon. And then she fights with Steve too. I have to wonder if there is anything in her life she is actually happy about not angry about. Her boobs? Alcohol? The deck? (Not Nookie Pookie. I don't buy that for a minute.)
I have absolutely no doubt in my mind the PI Kate hired was Steve. He's a licensed PI and I read a story on him a few years ago that he started out as a PI here in the US. I think he has been involved in many shady dealings for her over the years against Jon. He's her partner in dirty dealings, IMO.
Radar has a PDF of the police report. Hopefully the above link will work. It's dated April 27, 2015 and states that Kate told the police 7 of 8 children attend the school. Was it known that Collin had already left the school in 2015?
Yes, pretty sure Collin had left the school after end-of-term May 2014. She announced somewhere at that point that he wouldn't be going back.
It's very interesting that People mag has completely ignored this latest round of revelations. Not a single mention. I guess when there's real journalistic "evidence," like a police report, to refute one of the cover stories, they're just not interested.
Well, the report of this incident looks complete. And here's an interesting tidbit:
"Kate believes that the school has an equal relationship with Jonathan and believes that they will promptly call call him and alert him to what is going on."
So that answers some questions. I bet this is half the problem---the school treating Jon like a normal parent? How could they!?
It goes on to say that Jon called the police after Kate left with Hannah and told them he had obtained an "emergency custody order" and he wanted to know why Katie was allowed to remove [H] from school." So SHE was the one violating an order, NOT Jon.
I love how they call her by her real name, "Katie," throughout the report.
"Gosselin advised 7 of her 8 children attend school at [probably Lancaster]" So, in April 2015 Collin was no longer attending Lancaster. Which means he's had issues a lot longer than Kate says yet her priority was to put a bandaid on and keep filming. Someone explain to me again, how is it that there are still people in this world who think she is a good mother?
I went back and checked Kate's twitter timeline during this period. Interesting, that on April 27, the day of this police report, she tweeted not just one, but TWO pictures of all 3 girl tups lying in her bed later that evening.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 My little girlies have overtaken my bed... And what am I doing, you ask? Cleaning the kitchen.... #MomLife
#MomLife" -- yep, just an ordinary day of dysfunction in the life of a horrible mother who shamelessly puts her hatred of her ex ahead of her children's best interests. Every. Single. Time.
Kate is a twit, not only giving Jon an FU but also probably bribing Hannah. Are the children(especially the tups) usually allowed in Kate's bedroom? We know that the answer is no so it must have been a special treat for Hannah to be in mummy's room and the other girl tups must have said "me too" and probably Kate thought it's best to keep all girls happy.
I may be wrong, but the picture seems to be getting a little clearer with the actual police report.
If the incident with Hannah not wanting to return home happened at the end of March (the one where Kate is screaming at the curb), and the police report happened in April, then that must mean Jon went the entirely legal route and got his emergency custody order before he started to pick Hannah up from school. The report makes it sound like he was taking her back to Kate's, he wasn't "kidnapping" her, Kate just didn't like the fact that she was with him. And then he subsequently tried to get custody and got shot down.
Now what was happening around this time? Oh yeah, spring break from school and Katie's 40th-b'day Mexican extravaganza. No wonder Kate was worried---miss a paid trip at a foreign beach because her daughter would rather spend time with her dad? NFW.
Do we know when Jon got the emergency custody order for H? Was it before TFW called the police and then removed her from school and took her to the therapist or was it after TFW removed her? The police report says: "Jonathan said he obtained an emergency custody order and he wanted to know why Katie was allowed to remove H from school."
It sounds to me like Jon already had the emergency order (which is why he had H in the first place and why he took her to school, etc) and why he told the officer he was upset TFW had taken her. If that is the case, I can only imagine how upset he must have been that TFW did that. And, how upset he must have been with the school for allowing TFW to take H if Jon had told them he had the order. OR, the fit TFW would have thrown at the school with the administrators when she insisted on taking H from there. What an awful mess for H, and all of the children, to live through all of this because TFW can't accept the fact that her children have a father and whom they love and they have a right to be in each other's lives.
Then, the officer writes that he told Jon to contact his attorney on how to proceed. It's not just the fact that it costs Jon $$$$ each and every time he talks to his attorney, but he has to also pay court costs and fees which are by no means cheap; then he finally has the emergency custody order and the police basically tell him it's not their problem and to call his attorney. Dang I just can't imagine what all Jon has gone through because of the vindictiveness of TFW.
Anyone who thinks TFW doesn't make it difficult for the kids who see Jon are kidding themselves. Yeah, sheeple, I'm looking at you! That house must be absolute hell to live in with the mind games, guilting, Jon bashing, and anger TFW uses on them. Just like when TFW is always on her phone when she's with the kids, she must be so preoccupied with exacting her revenge that she's never really present in anything she should be doing. Whoever said it above, I agree with you, I think she's a sociopath. None of the children can escape the toxic environment TFW has created without suffering long lasting emotional scars.
I think back to the 8 innocent little children when the show started and contrast it to present day and two things are central to the picture, or dysfunction, and that's TFW and TLC. TFW for obvious hands-on reasons and TLC for helping TFW cover up the abuse / airing a FAKE story that they label as reality. This show is about as far from reality as you can get where this family is concerned. The G-8's brains must be so scrambled trying to reconcile the true reality of their lives and the fake crap TFW and TLC are trying to convince the world is real.
See my take on the three girls in Kate's bedroom (ostensibly without Kate for part of the time) is Kate ensuring H is not alone with her thoughts or her phone. "See how much fun we can have? If only you would behave---the way I want you to." She's getting the other kids to police H and pressure her to go along with Mommy, otherwise no one will be happy.
Sad but true (#145), you make a good point about the optics of that tweet.
Funny how TFW had to toss in that she was busy cleaning the kitchen. So the kids are away from her all day, but she's going to stay busy cleaning, and not spending time with them. #HorribleMomLife.
I think this has been mentioned before, but, Megyn Kelly has such an attractive short haircut that I think TFW would look pretty with. She could save a fortune on those extension, which are probably damaging to the hair she does have. Plus she could save a lot of time by not having to take care of that long style.
I may be wrong, but the picture seems to be getting a little clearer with the actual police report.
If the incident with Hannah not wanting to return home happened at the end of March (the one where Kate is screaming at the curb), and the police report happened in April, then that must mean Jon went the entirely legal route and got his emergency custody order before he started to pick Hannah up from school.
The report makes it sound like he was taking her back to Kate's, he wasn't "kidnapping" her, Kate just didn't like the fact that she was with him. And then he subsequently tried to get custody and got shot down.
Now what was happening around this time? Oh yeah, spring break from school and Katie's 40th-b'day Mexican extravaganza. No wonder Kate was worried---miss a paid trip at a foreign beach because her daughter would rather spend time with her dad? NFW. ===============
The incident with Hannah not wanting to return home happened on April 23, four days before this report, not at the end of March.
Thanks, for some reason I thought it had been posted here that the first incident was March. It's so hard to keep it all straight when it comes out in fits and starts. So this all happened (presumably) after the Mexico trip.
"Kate believes that the school has an equal relationship with Jonathan and believes that they will promptly call call him and alert him to what is going on."
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As they shoul,d you cow.
Much like her sheeple, she seems to be confusing legal custody with parental rights. The school can tell a parent whatever they darn well please regardless of who shares what custody. Only when a parent loses parental rights which involves a total loss of access to the child (or in CA we can specifically limit ed rights) does the school lose the right to inform them of things. Now depending on who has legal custody that doesn't mean Kate doesn't have veto power at the school if they disagree on a school decision, but she has no right to take away Jon's right to be informed as to what is happening with his children.
In fact when they were negotiating legal custody a reasonable attorney might surely have told him it doesn't in any way mean you can't participate in their schooling--not realizing Kate was going to make even that a nightmare. I still believe the legal custody was a concession to try to calm her down which sadly didn't pan out.
It sounds like the school in this instance was being reasonable, respectful, rational.
I went back and checked Kate's twitter timeline during this period. Interesting, that on April 27, the day of this police report, she tweeted not just one, but TWO pictures of all 3 girl tups lying in her bed later that evening.
God help Kate the day her children realize they are her PAWNS.
She must think her kids really are stupid and are never going to come to this realization. How insulting for her to think so low of her own children and their intelligence.
I took a look at the blog archives to see what our reactions were to Kate's accidental "protection mode" tweet on May 1, 2015.
Flimsy Flamsy--you nailed it! Since it's now been shown that Kate said she hired a private detective to tail Jon. This is what you posted back then:
FlimsyFlamsy said... 182 Anyone think TFW's been despatching spies to Jon's gigs, hoping to catch a photo of him smoking or drinking or talking to a girl, which she could sell to Radar? It's not just #WimpyBoys like Jon and Robert who have bills to pay. Pure speculation, of course. May 1, 2015 at 4:55 PM
The incident with Hannah not wanting to return home happened on April 23, four days before this report, not at the end of March. _____
The police report is dated April 27, which is the following Monday. So I guess we can assume that Hannah was with Jon on Thursday night (the 23rd), Friday, and then the weekend. (I wonder if the school was closed those days and/or it was Jon's custody weekend.) Then on Monday, after Jon has duly delivered Hannah to school (presumably), Kate raises the alarm. So she would have to have known he had this emergency order, unless she just agreed (after her public meltdown) to Hannah not coming home from Thursday on and assumed it would all go back to "normal" on the Monday.
Steve may have had something to do with the PI, but I doubt it was Steve himself. A PI has to be able to come in close proximity to Jon without being recognized. The silver fox would be spotted by Jon in a heartbeat. But I can see him arranging for a close buddy to do the job.
Still, maybe Steve agreed to a PI knowing they would find nothing, in the hopes that he could help Kate understand there really is nothing here and it's time to move on.
I don't know why I keep giving Steve the benefit of the doubt, but there is a part of me that gets the sense that he thinks he is the only one who can keep Kate from becoming completely unglued. Their relationship is odd, almost like he gives her little concessions to appease her, like you're trying to prevent your 3-year-old from having a tantrum. And not because you really think they deserve the concession. The fact that there has been bickering between them is a huge clue to me that he is NOT on the same page as her, not by a long shot.
B-b-but she's got all those terrific memories on video! And the bad ones are all being swiffered as we speak. I just realized, TLC is very probably getting rid of the evidence as much to protect themselves as her. How forward-thinking of them.
@KIAT Kate also uploaded a picture of her,Hannah and Leah at some type of event i forget what the event was called but its this one. https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11000638_880575118651155_2143160700840350325_n.jpg?oh=d7e90b35e1c0193482bb4cd43d95789e&oe=58A338C2
I just cannot imagine what those kids' lives must be like. Hannah is smiling in those twitter photos and just by looking at the pictures, you think everything's all right. However, the little girl smiling in that photo has had a nightmarish day: she got pulled out of class, her mom showed up and probably made a scene and dragged her home; and that's not counting the horrible week she's had: there has been lots of yelling, she had to runaway to daddy, live with the dread of what will happen when she eventually gets back home.
You can do that with so many pictures of the Gosselin kids and it's heartbreaking. How is that a good life?
Sad but true said... 121 Philly 4 for 4 said... 116 . . . Perhaps Kate was ordered into therapy. The kids were in Counseling when the People magazine was issued. Who knows. The whole family - Jon included - have alot of issues to deal with. _____
Kate said they were in counseling. You believe her? I don't. I don't believe anything she says.
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I think she is setting Jon up with the drug dealer accusation. I wouldn't put it past her to make sure drugs were found on him. She is bat crazy and not going to stop harassing Jon. Even though this was a year and a half ago, the damage is already done.
I also believe that she lied to the police that she was on her way to take Hannah to a therapist. She took her home to film. She's a liar. Can't wait when she has to go to court and she has to submit proof that she actually took Hannah to a counselor.
@GollyGee This kinda of reminds me of when the whole Robert and Gosselin Book came out.The sheeple kept saying how Kate with the aid of Bullyville was going to expose Robert and Jon and how they were going to destroy them both in court over the journals.But,she ended up deciding to dismiss her suit because she had no case.Im certain if she had proof of her accusations towards not just Jon but Robert as well we wouldn't hear about Robert ever again,Jon would be in jail over the stuff she'd claimed he did to Hannah(If it was sexual abuse she accused him of.)and the kids will be filming extra crazy.I still laugh at how some of fans excuse for dropping the suit was that she wanted to "spare" Jon and Robert after they were praising and encouraging Kate to do something about it.
Interesting, that on April 27, the day of this police report, she tweeted not just one, but TWO pictures of all 3 girl tups lying in her bed later that evening. ---- We don't actually know for a fact that the photos were taken that evening. Haven't posters here determined that Kate has fudged the timing of photos on previous occasions?
We don't actually know for a fact that the photos were taken that evening. Haven't posters here determined that Kate has fudged the timing of photos on previous occasions?
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I don't know that it much matters when the photos were taken the bigger point for me is that she was posting them right around the time of this great shakedown. It's too much of a coincidence, and it is an obvious F-U to anyone in the know. She knew exactly what she was doing in posting those, she's childish and more than that really is disturbed.
I just got my neighbor's copy of the InTouch with this story. There is definitely more than one police report out there, but ITW does not reproduce them in full as ROL did. You just see the snippets as they have been shown in their several stories over the past week.
So the two other police reports were on April 24 and, piecing it together from the story, probably April 23. The April 23 one would have to be where Hannah won't leave Jon's house, resulting in a screaming harpy on the curb: "Complainant stated she would wait outside all night until she sees her daughter." Looks like Jon picked her up on Wednesday the 22nd from school, his custody night, and must have collected her again on Thursday and brought her to his house---at Hannah's request. Unless Kate repeated this scene more than once.
The story goes on to say that "Officers who responded to Kate's initial call reported that the little girl was safe and sound but did not want to return home. [Kate and Steve yelling, etc. ] But Kate wouldn't let it go. The next day, a report says, Kate told cops Jon had "kidnapped" Hannah and was "a drug dealer who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics." There is a corner of a report showing the date of April 24, so this one must be "the next day."
The story ends with:
At an emergency custody hearing requested by Jon, a judge found no evidence to support Kate's accusations, says the insider, who believes Kate lashed out because she was upset that Hannah didn't want to leave and go film Kate Plus 8 [quelle surprise]. "All Kate cares about is her paycheck," says the insider. "Jon's been fighting so the kids don't have to film and is ready to go for joint legal custody. He misses them every day. He doesn't understand why Kate is still so angry after all these years."
There is one little sidebar that is quite interesting:
KATE'S BODYGUARD WAS IN HER WILL In a 2009 version of the Gosselin Family Education Trust obtained exclusively by In Touch, Kate named her bodyguard Steve Neild as a successor co-trustee if Jon is unable to serve, and arranged for his kids [STEVE's kids??? However does that work?] to benefit if there's money left over. "This shows an extreme trust in their relationship," explains estate attorney Ross L. Schiller, who doesn't advise the Gosselins.
Now what was happening around this time? Oh yeah, spring break from school and Katie's 40th-b'day Mexican extravaganza. No wonder Kate was worried---miss a paid trip at a foreign beach because her daughter would rather spend time with her dad? NFW. October 26, 2016 at 6:59 AM ****** Isn't this the episode where Kate was throwing a bday party for herself and told her kids she was going away, before she told them they were ALL going to Mexico? IIRC, she teased the kids and upset some of them so badly they got hysterical crying? I know for sure one of the girls was crying her eyes out on the couch. Am I right???
I imagine they're not publishing the reports because they want to drag out a couple week's worth of stories using tidbits of information. When they're done playing that game, I hope they just throw them all up as PDFs and we can actually seem the full content.
I never trust someone's interpretation of what a police report says. Never.
"Complainant stated she would wait outside all night until she sees her daughter."
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See, perfect example of how she doesn't see herself from the outside looking in, like at all. To me, loitering around all night trying to see your daughter is psycho, but I think she thinks it shows what a loving and concerned mother she is.
Also, I doubt it was all night. More likely 10 minutes. Who the hell was with the other kids??
I think back to the 8 innocent little children when the show started and contrast it to present day and two things are central to the picture, or dysfunction, and that's TFW and TLC. ***** It's the saddest tale that not enough people know about. The collusion between Kate, Steve, TLC and who knows who else is the stuff of "gate" scandals.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 147 I promise this isn't a political comment!
I think this has been mentioned before, but, Megyn Kelly has such an attractive short haircut that I think TFW would look pretty with. She could save a fortune on those extension, which are probably damaging to the hair she does have. Plus she could save a lot of time by not having to take care of that long style. ****** Totally agree! Kelly looks amazing with that sleek, short cut. Glad she got rid of the extensions or clip-ins. I just don't get hair curtains.
Much like her sheeple, she seems to be confusing legal custody with parental rights. The school can tell a parent whatever they darn well please regardless of who shares what custody. Only when a parent loses parental rights which involves a total loss of access to the child (or in CA we can specifically limit ed rights) does the school lose the right to inform them of things ***** I think Kate's been going for exactly that- Jon losing his parental rights all together.
So if she was waiting around all night hoping to get a glimpse of her daughter, who was at home with the other kids? Maybe she left them alone just like she accused Jon of doing. Oh wait, she's got that live-in not-a-nanny.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 182 Anyone think TFW's been despatching spies to Jon's gigs, hoping to catch a photo of him smoking or drinking or talking to a girl, which she could sell to Radar? It's not just #WimpyBoys like Jon and Robert who have bills to pay. Pure speculation, of course. May 1, 2015 at 4:55 PM October 26, 2016 at 8:20 AM **** Yeah, wow! Nailed it.
I still laugh at how some of fans excuse for dropping the suit was that she wanted to "spare" Jon and Robert after they were praising and encouraging Kate to do something about it. ***** Spare them? Kate wouldn't spit on neither Jon nor Robert if they were on fire.
At an emergency custody hearing requested by Jon, a judge found no evidence to support Kate's accusations, says the insider, who believes Kate lashed out because she was upset that Hannah didn't want to leave and go film Kate Plus 8 [quelle surprise]. "All Kate cares about is her paycheck," says the insider. "Jon's been fighting so the kids don't have to film and is ready to go for joint legal custody. He misses them every day. He doesn't understand why Kate is still so angry after all these years." ***** Is this shades of Mady not wanting to go out to Alaska to film? Mady wanted to stay with Jon and Kate threatened him with jail if he interfered. I know one day, all or some of the kids are going to be very angry with Kate for putting filming them over everything else.
See, perfect example of how she doesn't see herself from the outside looking in, like at all. To me, loitering around all night trying to see your daughter is psycho, but I think she thinks it shows what a loving and concerned mother she is.
Also, I doubt it was all night. More likely 10 minutes. Who the hell was with the other kids?? October 26, 2016 at 10:00 AM ***** I see a pattern of Kate getting quite hysterical when she tells her side of the story. She swore up and down, all Scarlett O'Hara-style, that she'd work at McDonalds if she had to. That was utter b.s., but she'll say things that she knows aren't true, just to get sympathy and manipulate people. I wonder if the cop even blinked when Kate threatened to stay outside of Jon's house all night long. Actually, I wonder if he asked her who was home with her kids!
Admin, remember the good ol' days when TLC still believed it can control what info gets distributed and what not and it send you a cease and desist letter trying to scare you off and shut this site down? Wow, look at TLC now, laying low and doing its best to fight off all the drama, as quietly as possible.
I don't know that it much matters when the photos were taken the bigger point for me is that she was posting them right around the time of this great shakedown. --- That was my point. This is not the first time she's posted old photos implying they were taken that day in order to manipulate public perception & send an FU to the ex.
Again, it's 1 1/2 yrs later, and it appears that custody has not changed, and Jon says that he doesn't know what some of the kids look like and doesn't know why only 4 kids come for custody. I think that would have been a huge issue to bring up at a hearing. His lawyer could find a way to tie it all together.
The police report confirms that Jon has contact with the school, so he should be going to different events at the school. Since Kate most likely doesn't tell him what is going on, he should look at the school calendar, call the school for monthly updates or ask the kids. He should be going to events in hopes that his children will be there. It would be inconvenient, but it would be worth it if he was able to see his children.
This is in the past, he needs to be taking steps to fight for custody. I hope that he is, but it's 1 1/2 yrs later, and the same things are being said.
Where is TLC's moral stance on all of this? Honey Boo Boo's show was slammed shut because it was rumored that her mother was dating a pedophile, and I agree with that. The family was in terrible disarray, with break ups, fighting, and scandal. Kate Plus 8 is just as riddled with terrible conditions for children. Because of the show, Kate was gone to extremes to keep filming. She has been marginalizing Jon, (I believe) alienating Jon (quite successfully, but not quite all the way, yet). There are more police reports than you can shake a stick at, at this point, and the kids have been caught in the middle of this for YEARS now. Whatever spin or FUN! TLC tries to can in their episodes, it's all bullshit because everyone knows about the expulsions, the in-patient admission of Colin, half the kids not seeing Jon, the twins ugliness towards their father, Hannah trying to stay with her father and Kate making wild accusations about him.... It goes on and on. Also, not for nothing, but NFL player, Josh Brown, got released/suspended from his team for admitting abusing his wife IN HIS JOURNAL.
"In the documents, which were obtained by SportsNet New York, Brown paints a picture of his everyday life through his journal, and none of it is pretty.
In the journal, Brown admits that he’s been an abusive husband.
“I have physically, mentally, emotionally and verbally been a repulsive man,” Brown wrote.
In the same entry, he circled the phrase, “I have abused my wife.”
Brown was suspended for one game this season after the NFL finished its investigation into an arrest from May 2015. After an incident with his wife in Washington, Brown was charged with fourth-degree domestic violence.
At the time of his suspension, Brown was furious that the NFL had decided to suspend him..."
From what I gather from various reports and "piecing and patching" Kate started her tiraid on April 23 and continued on until April 27. And she still hadn't gotten everything out of her system by May 1, when she made the full protection tweet.
Yeah, all this because her kid doesn't want to film? It's Ms. Contract-Honorer's signature on the contract, not Hannah's. This will surely become a bigger issue as time goes on.
Wow, look at TLC now, laying low and doing its best to fight off all the drama, as quietly as possible. *** Huh, yeah. No comment from TLC on this family's tragic situation. I do find it tragic. What's happened to this family since they were just trying to make ends meet, 2 mediocre people with a (supposed) great faith in God, a strong bond (Kate wrote of it many times in her journal), friend, family, community and plenty of help to get them through. What a sad turn of events since TLC got their hooks into this family. Not that Jon and Kate didn't relish the thought of the money, fame and goodies that came along with filming.
I'm thinking about those other 7 kids, and what was going through their minds while Mom was camped out, waiting for Hannah. Especially C, who we now officially know has emotional challenges. I bet those poor children had 7 knotted stomachs, worrying about the outcome. Anyone who grew up in households with mental illness and/or addiction knows what I'm talking about.
This is in the past, he needs to be taking steps to fight for custody. I hope that he is, but it's 1 1/2 yrs later, and the same things are being said.
****** This is a very big revelation which shows just what these kids are going through. Jon is obviously keeping it quiet, Kate of course doesn't want to public to know the lengths she'll go to in order to keep her kids filming. This might be a report from over a year ago, but it's become public now and I have to wonder how TLC thinks they can spin this. Most of all, because Kate has chosen to not be private, all of this sh*t is still tabloid fodder and the children have these sad headlines splashed across the internet and in magazines on an ongoing basis. I don't know how I'd cope it I were a kid, growing up, and seeing these scathing stories over and over again.
Maybe it's gonna take somebody getting arrested for TLC to shut down this tragic circus. ---- "Tragic Circus"...perfect book title for the tell-all that one of the kids will no doubt write.
Tucker's Mom (#183), contrast the situation with the G kids with how TLC responded to the report of Josh Duggar molesting his sisters. They were soooo worried about the mental health of their talent. Where's all that compassion and concern now? About children they've filmed for more than a decade? Shame on them.
I'm sure Kate is trying to take away Jon's parental rights. But she's such an idiot. Guess what, Kate? When your children are 18, all of this goes away. All you had to do was appear semi-rational for a few years and your children will be free to decide who they want to spend time with. I see it all the time. The mom keeps her obligation with dad's custody time but the kids see that all along she did her best for them. I have no idea how Jon acts with them in private but the kids are now old enough to understand if a parent is acting like a crazy person. At least some of them will leave Kate behind and not look back. It didn't have to be that way.
I do not give Steve the benefit of the doubt. He has taken complete advantage of this situation since the day he met Kate. He obviously realized how much she needed his "help" and has taken all he can take. A bodyguard as back-up estate manager, as someone on financial accounts, as someone who is so much not an employee that he argues with Kate. It's wrong. He contributed to the break-up of her marriage, he knows the details of abuse, he knows her problems. He has no morals. I don't care if he is holding her together. Maybe if she imploded she could get help instead of being on tv.
In other news, Daniel Boone School District (also in Berks County) has been approached by Lifetime about doing a reality show. Former students would come back to mentor students. The district would get a whopping $30,000 for selling the kids' privacy. http://www.readingeagle.com/news/article/daniel-boone-board-gets-pitch-for-reality-show
FlimsyFlamsy said... 187 Tucker's Mom (#183), contrast the situation with the G kids with how TLC responded to the report of Josh Duggar molesting his sisters. They were soooo worried about the mental health of their talent. Where's all that compassion and concern now? About children they've filmed for more than a decade? Shame on them.\ **** Great point. Where is TLC's concern for the children's well being? Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if TLC knew about the Duggars' skeletons and kept quiet. Until they got booked on Oprah.
I do not give Steve the benefit of the doubt. He has taken complete advantage of this situation since the day he met Kate. He obviously realized how much she needed his "help" and has taken all he can take. A bodyguard as back-up estate manager, as someone on financial accounts, as someone who is so much not an employee that he argues with Kate. It's wrong. He contributed to the break-up of her marriage, he knows the details of abuse, he knows her problems. He has no morals. I don't care if he is holding her together. Maybe if she imploded she could get help instead of being on tv. ________
I'm with you. Kate made her own bed, but without his help, she might have had to turn to her family or professionals to deal with her issues. She's got no one but him (and Milo). He's likely made enough off the kids to be able to retire after this ends.
Jeanne said... 188 ***** Agree, Jeanne. Steve insinuated himself into Kate and Jon's lives and if he truly is part of their estate, whereby he and his kids stand to benefit in any way, he's got very, very dirty hands.
I was so focused on the sexual abuse allegations I pretty much overlooked that she implied that Jon could hurt her with his firearm.
Not only is that an outrageous accusation, but I doubt it played very well in that part of the country, which respects a homeowner's right to defend himself and his property. For that matter, I'm not sure how that played with many of her red state fans. She may have made her biggest mistake ever with that little stunt.
@Admin I wouldn't be shocked if Kate once again is claiming someone is threatening to kill her.Remember she and Bullyville claimed that Kate haters were threatening to kill her,the kids and some of her crazy fans?Now she's making the same accusation about Jon.Whats bizarre is that Kate didn't do anything about it.I've not herd of any hater getting arrested for attempted murder.Plus i've not herd her tweeting about calling the police or anything like that.
I don't think Kate's views on Jon's gun ownership would remove her red state fans' lips from her ass ;-) I got a chuckle from Kate calling the cops to run interference when she got to the school, fearing Jon was going to have a showdown at the OK Corral. He wasn't even there. But seriously, her implications and accusations are about as wild and horrific at they come. Drug dealer. "Suspicious" relationship with Hanna (abuse? sexual?) such that Kate rushes her to a therapist. Gun violence.
Yet, there's Kate plastering her kids on the cover of People magazine and filming the crap out of them (allegedly).
I was so focused on the sexual abuse allegations I pretty much overlooked that she implied that Jon could hurt her with his firearm.
Not only is that an outrageous accusation, but I doubt it played very well in that part of the country, which respects a homeowner's right to defend himself and his property. For that matter, I'm not sure how that played with many of her red state fans. She may have made her biggest mistake ever with that little stunt.
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She's really going off the deep end. It sounds like it's worst than paranoia. What does it take for the courts to require a psych evaluation on her? Something is very "off" there, and I'm not saying this because I am a non-fan. There must be someone who can recognize that she has mental issues...SERIOUS mental issues that go far beyond her intense need for vengeance.
Jamezvader1194 (#197), and if TFW was really, truly, sincerely so concerned about her children's safety and welfare, why wouldn't she just pull the plug on the show and get those kids out of the spotlight? #HorribleMomLife
You know what was very glaring to me is how she tried to sort of soften the blow of her accusations (I suppose in case they turned out to be bogus) with lots of cushion words like, I have suspected, I fear SOMETHING could happen with the firearm, I suspect SOMETHING between my daughter and ex.
You know, if you're gonna make claims like that, f-ing come out and say it. Come out and say sexual abuse, come out and say I think he's going to shot me. OWN IT and stop being such a f-ing pansy trying to cover your own ass.
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Have you READ the wikileaks? What about it makes you think the media has NOT helped them every step of the way? It's all right there in writing. I haven't heard much about what the party line on the issue is although I assume it's the media is pro Clinton (which, they are). Regardless, I read directly from the source to form my opinion.
Dotti Sandusky and Camille O. Cosby have been blasted for staying with and supporting their husbands. Absolutely blasted. Double standard to the point of head shaking.
I come here to read about Kate Gosselin, and I get a pro-Trump site. No candidate is perfect, but I'll take Clinton any day over a PROVEN misogynistic, sexist, racist, overblown, arrogant, idiotic cheater. Admin, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'm outta here until after the election.
Well, the little kids were filming at a corn maze yesterday and precious Collin was with them!! I did watch him for a few minutes while my group played. He was laughing and just as engaged as ever. One of the girls kept hugging on him and he was running with one of the boys. No twins in sight. Kate and I think that Andrea girl were there going through the maze. Yes, there were 2 cameras and a boom mic. Did not see Steve but there were 2 other adult men. Nothing was blocked off that I could tell. There was a small, I mean 8x10 sign near the front that said a TV show was being filmed and by entering you agree that you may end up on a Television show. I was just so happy to see Collin that I wasn't even perturbed by Kate and her clan.
Let's say, for shits and giggles, that Jon decided to make the police report public, more than a year after the fact and at a time where, by his social media accounts, he is busy with his DJ career, happy with his gf and continuing to see the children of his which choose to visit.
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According to his SM, he works a day or 2 a week. Not a fulltime job by any means. He has a picture on his FB from the tups birthday, May. So we don't know if the kids are still visiting. With Jon ranting recently about losing a DJ gig, who knows. His DJ career seems spotty at best. We have no proof he has seen any kids since Collin was sent away/People magazine. And now with the police report out I would think that has caused a new upset in Kate's home. I can't imagine the shit that was inflicted on Hannah went she didn't go home and caused "mommy" so much stress. We don't know if he is still in a relationship with Colleen.
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ocalyocul said... 190
PA Dutch...how long after this happened did he actually see the police reports do you know? Is this new to him or has he known about it?
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I'm sorry, local. I'm just not getting into what he knew, when he knew it, or anything else. I'm biting my tongue once again. If Jon wants to release anything, that's up to him.
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I come here to read about Kate Gosselin, and I get a pro-Trump site. No candidate is perfect, but I'll take Clinton any day over a PROVEN misogynistic, sexist, racist, overblown, arrogant, idiotic cheater. Admin, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'm outta here until after the election.
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"Trumpettes on CNN" LOL - at our house we call them "Barbie Dolls". I can't help wondering if they are positioning themselves as commentators on the rumoured TV network Trump has in mind.
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Becca, good DJ's don't just show up play some tunes for a couple hours and go home. Each gig takes many hours of preparation, set up, tear down, planning, meetings and travel. For every hour a DJ plays, add at least 6-8 behind the scenes. Depending on the gig, much more.
Unfortunately that's what a lot of people think of artists and musicians, that it's "easy," only one or two days a week, and that you just show up and leave, what an easy, lazy gig. Sigh, I went through that kind of judgment when I played weddings and funerals. Each gig took many many hours of preparation, travel, research, and meetings. It was by no means a 2 hour thing and I expected to be appropriately compensated for the prep time as well. Eventually I stopped doing that when the workload became too much to do that and a full time job.
That said, I agree with you that it's scary to think about what was said, and done, to Hannah when she came home. God bless that child, and I'm very sorry for her.
As far as the comments about politics, as I said, the only thing I don't understand is why, bottom line for me is if sexual assault is an issue for you, you should not see Hillary as the alternative. She is part and parcel to numerous sexual assaults, which we just found out are ongoing. This is well documented. I don't understand it. Either it's a campaign issue for you or not, but if it is, neither candidate should be considered appropriate. Vote for Johnson, I guess.
Just a mom today said... 5
Well, that's interesting, if true. (Please forgive my skepticism, which I think is self-explanatory.)
If Collin was home, and filming, it would seem to suggest that his professional counselors don't think that's a problem. If he was there with their knowledge. I am assuming he is only home for a short stay---or else why would Kate have made the big story about his being sent away from home? Was she afraid it would leak out from somewhere else?
It's interesting that Andrea is still around. Why? Why would Kate need her help with six well-traveled 12-year-olds in the local corn maze, where they have filmed numerous times before? At this point she seems more like a prop for Kate than a real nanny for the kids.
I can't even get into how juvenile it is for them still to be filming activities they were doing at ages 3 and up. No marks for creativity, that's for sure. Of course there'll be pumpkin carving, etc.
Anyway---I guess we'll know when/if this ever airs. We seem to be getting further and further from the "reality" of their real life as time goes on.
but I'll take Clinton any day over a PROVEN misogynistic, sexist, racist, overblown, arrogant, idiotic cheater. Admin, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'm outta here until after the election.
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The thing is that Hillary has been proven to be a liar, has been involved in sketchy dealings, is a known exaggerator (the "hail of gunfire," for example), and the deleting of 30,000 e-mails, and not knowing what is classified and what isn't, and what to do with e-mails. This was not a simple "mistake" because the security of the country was at risk. Could she actually be an effective President if she's clueless about e-mails and our national security? It really does seem, for some people, to be a decision between the lesser of two evils. I distrust her more than I distrust him, based on the shady dealings both she and her husband have had in the past, and perhaps are on-going.
They're not too old for a corn maze as long as it's challenging enough and not a baby one. But they are way too old to have to be saddled to their mother and siblings and cameras. They are well old enough to be allowed to go off with friends and enjoy this with friends their age.
Filming at the corn maze? Considering how backed
up the episodes are, I expect that'll air on or about Valentine's Day, 2018.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 14
See, my assumption is that they had to throw away all of most of what the apparently filmed from Feb (when we heard they filmed in the snow and which somehow aired in Poland) up through June or so. Or maybe they'll just pastiche totally unrelated segments together. It wouldn't make any less sense than the typical episode does now.
Or she could have hired a crew to film for a YouTube channel. Doesn't sound like much of a crew was with her if that post is true AND there have been no Twitter sightings. I would find it hard to believe that Collin's therapists would think filming would be beneficial. We've all seen how withdrawn he was during filming.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 13
They're not too old for a corn maze as long as it's challenging enough and not a baby one. But they are way too old to have to be saddled to their mother and siblings and cameras. They are well old enough to be allowed to go off with friends and enjoy this with friends their age.
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My thoughts exactly. This is being filmed so Kate can sit on her throne and go on and on about how many years ago it was when they filmed their first trip, and how she's survived, and blah, blah, blah.
I'm happy Colin is with his family. I just can't for the life of me understand how continuing to put him in the spotlight isn't fought tooth and nail by Jon (and I don't know that he isn't!) and his medical team.
I mean, when Colin comes back into the filming fold, and his return is made public, all eyes are going to be on him.
I just think it's sick.
Take the kids to the maze, sure, but ffs, leave the cameras.
I'm still wondering if it's TLC filming. I mean, virtually everything they film is a repeat. Are they paying production to do nothing but film the same sh*t over and over again?
I'd say good luck with the ratings, but Kate is going to milk Colin's situation for maximum viewing.
Can't be doing all that much filming this weekend.
kateplusmy8 Shoka had a sleepover with Alexis and Aaden this weekend. Wonder what he was chasing in his cushy sleep?! #KingShoka #Adorable
ktmac111581 I know Alexis sleeps in the basement or another room because she would keep the other little girls up - has Aaden become her roommate?
kateplusmy8 Lol. No she doesn't anymore.. Just weekends they watch movies and sometimes sleep there:) @ktmac111581
errington_bound I'm unfollowing. I wanted updates on the kids not some dog.
And TLC's Kate FB page is so dead, they've repeated today the same post about chocolate and red wine that was posted a mere three days ago. Heck, the DC Cupcake girls have more posts on that page than anything related to K8.
I've learned to be skeptical about sightings until they're verified either by others who were there or when a show or YouTube video airs. If they were out, even for filming, I hope they had lots of fun!
Sure do wish we could let the politics go!!
It's admin's blog...she can do as she likes with it. But I am uninterested in political talk here, thinking that that there are other blogs more appropriate for political talk. I come here for TFW discussion.
I used to read here frequently, now hardly ever. Too bad, I liked this blog.
I stumbled upon a Reddit post in which someone talked about seeing the G kids filming in Orlando in 2011. They said the children, nanny and a bodyguard were on the same floor with the poster. So, when the ca,eras shut down, Kate doesn't actually sleep in the same apartment/room/whaever with her kids. It's all for the kids.
Sure do wish we could let the politics go!!
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Me, too, and I'm sorry if I've gotten into the fray!!
My adrenals are pooped out!
ps....GO EAGLES!!!!
Sure do wish we could let the politics go!!
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Miss, you, Mel, and everyone who needs to clear the veranda until Nov. 9.
Can NOT wait....oy!
Just when I thought the political stiff was dying down....
I thought twice about whether to read here today after posts 1-3. I had taken to skipping all Admin's posts, but they were short and took me by surprise.
It is Admin's blog and she can use it any way she wants, but I do have to wonder why she persists in posting things that are not only not convincing anyone but are making many people question her judgment.
I was getting worried, but thar she blows.
miloandjack2016 LOL. So cute to see. #PapaShoka still has active dreams! Probably chasing one of his rubber legless chickens! 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 And how nice to see despite ridiculous #TabloidGossip that your kids are doing the normal fun things pre teens do! Who knew ? #SleepOvers #FunWeekends. 😃 @kateplusmy8
It's admin's blog...she can do as she likes with it. But I am uninterested in political talk here, thinking that that there are other blogs more appropriate for political talk. I come here for TFW discussion.
I used to read here frequently, now hardly ever.
Too bad, I liked this blog.
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Gosh. I thought there was a substantial amount of posts the last several weeks or so that discussed Kate and her kids, especially in light of the recent stories that came out in the tabloids. It's been a good discussion. I just skip over the political posts if I'm really not feeling Trump or Clinton. That didn't come out right, did it?
Don't worry Kirkland, "nasty women" vote. Women are turning out in huge numbers in early voting.
Fr instagram :
KATE PLUS 8 is coming back sooner than you think, to all who keep asking :)
KATE PLUS 8 is coming back sooner than you think, to all who keep asking :)
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It's not sooner than we think. It's been almost a year! Kate, grow up. Tease, tease, hem haw. Tease, tease, hem haw.
She already told us January, if it's sooner than that, that just makes her look dumb, since she thought it was going to be later. What a tool.
I actually sometimes want to talk about things other than the Gosselins, especially this week when all it's been about is Kate being a psychopath and the things she's said about her children's father. It gets sick to think about after awhile.
We have a long history here of going off topic. I think scroll is the best solution.
IG getting a little testy tonight.
jillell Deleting negative comments don't mean they never existed. Your fans are freaks who need their fix gawking at your kids. I hope they sue you and tlc when they're grown.
barbgilmer1 @jillell You know what? There are many things happening on the show in its entirety, not just the kids! So why don't you take your negative Nelly attitude and go bug somebody else!
What else to see besides the kids and dogs, Barb? Kate on a date? Been there, done that. I think they should film more scenes of Kate and Steve screaming at each other and leave the kids out of it. I'm sure that would be vastly more amusing.
barbgilmer1 @jillell You know what? There are many things happening on the show in its entirety, not just the kids! So why don't you take your negative Nelly attitude and go bug somebody else!
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The shows are almost all about the kids. It's very rare an episode doesn't directly involve the kids in nearly every "scene"? What the heck is she talking about? It's one thing to defend that woman but don't lie doing so.
Where did that come from? Who said it?
Do you have a link?
Is Milo delusional? Does she even read the articles? It's not a rumor. It's an actual, bonafide police report. How is that a rumor? In writing, Kate accused Jon of disgusting and abusive acts.
This is one of those things where no media is going to say something like that without the evidence in hand, lest they encounter a lawsuit. The first story from last year about Hannah was a "rumor." Now it's not a rumor, it's a fact. They waited to go this far until they had the evidence in hand.
I almost feel like Milo is confusing the word rumor with the word gossiping. They're not the same thing. It may be "gossip" but it's true gossip.
Deliverance -it's all on her instagram. Kate will delete any negative comments on there so it's probably gone by now.
Here's a couple she hasn't managed to delete yet:
jillell @barbgilmer1 it's ALWAYS ABOUT THE KIDS. quit yer Lyin'. 😂😂
jillell @Lady_litt I DONT follow her. Gross. @barbgilmer1 😂whatever makes you feel better about gawking at a shrew and her poor kids.
jillell Plus @lady_litt it's ALWAYS ABOUT HER KIDS OR YOU FREAKY FANS WOULD REVOLT. why you all enjoy watching her and contributing to the abuse and exploitation of those kids is freaking bizarre.
I'd actually like to know how 2 siblings plus one dog at home in their own basement qualifies as a "sleepover." Perhaps this is the only kind the kids are allowed.
Is Milo delusional? Does she even read the articles? It's not a rumor. It's an actual, bonafide police report. How is that a rumor? In writing, Kate accused Jon of disgusting and abusive acts.
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She doesn't understand that. The journals were altered; everything that doesn't put her love interest in a good light is either gossip, rumor, libel, or whatever, regardless if it's documented. She will blame someone for altering the police report. Her local law enforcement is against her. There is something seriously wrong with Gladys. She needs help out of this Celebrity Worship Syndrome, but I'm afraid it's too late for that. She is enjoying her position as Chief Executive Ewe far too much. Bleating is a full time job for her.
"What else to see besides the kids and dogs, Barb? Kate on a date? Been there, done that. I think they should film more scenes of Kate and Steve screaming at each other and leave the kids out of it. I'm sure that would be vastly more amusing."
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Where is Zorro? Is he still alive, or has he been put somewhere on the back burner and is no longer her shiny new toy? If the puppies are in the house, how much time does Zorro spend outside his cage? She was so excited because Zorro was talking (which I doubt), and yet we hear nothing about his chattering or if he has memorized the dictionary.
Regarding the political discussions. We've had womanizers and cheaters in the White House going way back to Jefferson and Sallie Hemings. Why would it be any different now? I recently watched a documentary on JFK and Judith Campbell Exner (allegedly a two-year affair) and the mob. My gosh, he was a busy man, and he still had time to deal with Castro and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
miloandjack2016 And how nice to see despite ridiculous #TabloidGossip that your kids are doing the normal fun things pre teens do! Who knew ? #SleepOvers #FunWeekends. 😃 @katep
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Sorry Milo but if you read the #SleepOvers tweet and TFW's comment it seems that the #SleepOver is nothing more than one of the girls sleeping in the basement with her brother and they watch movies together. What would be more normal would be the kids having #SleepOvers with their friends!
Anyone else waiting for The Walking Dead premier tonight? I, for one, can't wait!
Regarding the political discussions. We've had womanizers and cheaters in the White House going way back to Jefferson and Sallie Hemings. Why would it be any different now?
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You bet we have. The idea that anyone thinks not voting for Trump is a vote for women's rights, is a real head shaker. Folks, we don't have a choice here. The two major candidates offered to us have both treated women deplorably.
@Admin Its not(well she is)her being delusional,its just her basically putting her fingers in her ears and avoid the truth.Which goes back to what you said about the belief of Kate DMing her fans something like this.I do agree with someone who said its hard to tell what milo really knows and whats a figment of her imagination.To be honest admin,even if your belief about Kate DMing fans is true,this doesn't mean Milo or anyone of her loyal followers knows what goes on(Unless Kate shows them proof whether its a video or a court document).They'd just be taking Kate's word for it,even though Kate knows darn well they'll believe anything she tells them.But like i said,they're pretty much getting her side and not the opposing side.
For Milo, Kate could admit to committing first degree murder, with evidence and proof filling an entire prosecutor's chambers, and Gladys would still maintain that the evidence was planted, everyone was against her, and the entire case was built on lies, perjury, and of course the jury was biased because Jon and the tabloids all hated her.
That's the way Kravitz rolls. She's really a sad little person.
Anyone else waiting for The Walking Dead premier tonight? I, for one, can't wait!
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Why watch the zombies on television when all you have to do is go to Kate's IG and the sheeple are all there?
Yes, I feel ornery tonight. Hunters's Moon was last week, so I'm not sure what it is.
NJGal51 (#39), and the fact that the G kids' personal Saturday night plans have been broadcast across the planet by their mother automatically makes them NOT "normal."
Milo is constitutionally incapable of ever letting it rest. I doubt whether she'll get an answer to this one; after all, Kate didn't answer Barb, who asked the same question, though not quite as coyly.
miloandjack2016 Ok...since you said #sooner....may we assume BEFORE 2016 is over? #MissQueenOfTease. 😋 @kateplusmy8
FlimsyFlamsy said... 44
NJGal51 (#39), and the fact that the G kids' personal Saturday night plans have been broadcast across the planet by their mother automatically makes them NOT "normal."
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Yes, and she knows better than to broadcast Mady and Cara's Saturday night since they are getting older.
Why would she even broadcast it with the younger kids? The kids privacy is not even on her radar. Is it because she is on tv and thinks that since she is that it makes it our business?
I admire real celebs that go the extra mile to protect their children from the public. There are many stars I have seen in the tabloids over the years and may have gotten a glimpse of them when they were a child and then it is years later when they are 17 or 18 years old and many celebs, I knew had one or two.
But a couple of years later, now, there is three or four kids and I go, I didn't know they had 4 kids!
She doesn't understand that. The journals were altered; everything that doesn't put her love interest in a good light is either gossip, rumor, libel, or whatever, regardless if it's documented. She will blame someone for altering the police report.
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You know I wonder if the reason Milo is talking about something so awkward for Kate is that she is trying to put out a feeler to Kate to see if Kate will make a comment about a story that interests Milo.
In other words Milo is talking about it for Milo's benefit. Selfish, as usual. A normal fan wouldn't dare bring up this story.
GollyGee (#46), I just read an interview with 2 people from "The Real World" who met on the show, fell in love, and have been married for 15 years. They have a son and daughter, and didn't even allow their kids' NAMES to be printed in the article. Talk about being careful to respect your children's privacy!
Milo is constitutionally incapable of ever letting it rest. I doubt whether she'll get an answer to this one; after all, Kate didn't answer Barb, who asked the same question, though not quite as coyly.
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She can't let anything rest. Once she gets fixated on something, she simply won't move on. Is this a kind of physiological disorder when the brain misfires and she really can't help it, or is she just your garden variety pest?
October 23, 2016 at 6:02 PM
FlimsyFlamsy said... 48
GollyGee (#46), I just read an interview with 2 people from "The Real World" who met on the show, fell in love, and have been married for 15 years. They have a son and daughter, and didn't even allow their kids' NAMES to be printed in the article. Talk about being careful to respect your children's privacy!
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Funny you should mention The Real World. There is another couple who were on different seasons of that show that are married. He is now a Congressman for his state and they have....wait for it....8 (yep, 8!) kids. Somehow they are managing to raise their family without a reality show. Lol.
LOL.
barbgilmer1 Everyone block jillell , see this is why Kates not on Twitter anymore I guarantee it!!
barbgilmer1@jillell go bug the Kardashian's on how they let their youngest daughter have plastic surgery!! Have a nice night and a good life!!
I think Kate's not on Twitter anymore because she can't handle all of the questions. She'll be back when TLC tells her it's time for a Twitter follow party. And you really wanna go there with the plastic surgery, Barb?
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tunanoodlecasserole85 Does it creep you out that one of your fans comments MANY times on each post you make?
Hmm, now who could that be?
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miloandjack2016And thanks for the #Mak update & pic!! Hope he is back to full speed? The pic w/him & red ball w/shades of red leaves in them background was beautiful! #GoodEyeForPhotography. ❤ @kateplusmy8
No one's ever said she has a good eye for photography before, and that's a fact. Good one, Milo.
Kate doesn't need to be on Twitter when Milo brings everything she says on IG over there.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago
So here is latest hint from @Kateplusmy8 on #IG "KATE PLUS 8 is coming back sooner than you think, to all who keep asking:)" #Anticipation
They're so easy to rattle lol Barb told Kate to block me so she did. Hahahha oh darn. 😢
That was you? Congrats!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h3 hours ago
So here is latest hint from @Kateplusmy8 on #IG "KATE PLUS 8 is coming back sooner than you think, to all who keep asking:)" #Anticipation
Has anyone dared to ask Gladys if it's KATE PLUS 8 or KATE PLUS 7? After all, she knows everything, and according to her, TLC has confirmed that the show will air in January. Will it be EIGHT kids or SEVEN, Milo?
Milo would be ecstatic if it's just KATE PLUS 0. Kids, what kids?
FLMom (#50), actually, the mother of those 8 kids, Rachel Campos Duffy, has been a frequent guest
host on The View -- which TFW referred to as one
of the "chairs of my dreams." Pretty telling that with the revolving door of hosts over the past few seasons, TFW couldn't even scare up a one-day interim spot between hires. I suspect she has a horrible reputation with industry insiders, and has lost countless opportunities. If she'd played her cards right over the past decade, I think should could have been wealthy beyond her wildest dreams.
I just saw on TMZ that Mariah Carey was at a Halloween party with her ex, Nick Cannon, and their twins. Guess she loves her kids more than she hates her ex.
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Has anyone dared to ask Gladys if it's KATE PLUS 8 or KATE PLUS 7?
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Oh it'll be Plus 8. Because you know there'll be some tender heart-warming scenes where Kate will say how he's always with them in spirit, or some such drivel. I do wonder if the other kids will talk about him and, if so, what they've been scripted to say.
Who made Gilmer second in command? I didn't realize she was that active with Kate after she left her job as Kate's secretary.
Anyone else waiting for The Walking Dead premier tonight? I, for one, can't wait!
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The Walking Dead was brutal, great, shocking and took my breath away. WOW!!!!!!!!!
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Blowing In The Wind said... 59
She went private on Twitter a while ago. On IG, it seems that even if you are private (which Barb's account is), your comments on others' IG accounts do show up publicly. I don't have a clear understanding of how all this works since I don't do any of it myself.
I gotta think Gladys isn't too thrilled with someone else answering questions on TFW's behalf. That's her raison d'etre (*waves to Tucker's Mom*). She seems to think she's a very important part of Team TFW, and wouldn't want to feel like she could be replaced. And all this puppy mishegas has really gotten her, to borrow her own expression, fire up for TFW more than ever.
Vee - I agree 100% with all the emotions for Walking Dead! WOW!!!!!!!!! is right.
I gotta think Gladys isn't too thrilled with someone else answering questions on TFW's behalf. T
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And someone better at it, who I daresay commands a bit more respect.
A higher ranking fan.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 48
GollyGee (#46), I just read an interview with 2 people from "The Real World" who met on the show, fell in love, and have been married for 15 years. They have a son and daughter, and didn't even allow their kids' NAMES to be printed in the article. Talk about being careful to respect your children's privacy!
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They deserve a medal for going that far to protect their children! And the Senator and his wife, too! They are raising their children away from the cameras!
Raising children WITHOUT a reality tv show and you can still SURVIVE?
Who would of thunk it?
Not sure if i believe that sighting with the corn maze.Like with some here i've been skeptical about sighting until there's a tweet or picture of it like with this target sighting back in September.I get that not many care about Kate anymore but i feel there would at least be that one person who would tweet about seeing them whether its a hater or fan.Im completely lost when it comes to how much filming they did and what is filmed.
This story is so heartwarming! I know that there are a lot of dog lovers on here, including me!
It also has a surprise at the ending, which is, wow.
http://alabamaobserver.com/huntsville-woman-pays-120-pound-fee-homeless-mans-dog-can-released/
She went private on Twitter a while ago. On IG, it seems that even if you are private (which Barb's account is), your comments on others' IG accounts do show up publicly. I don't have a clear understanding of how all this works since I don't do any of it myself.
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Thanks, Sad. I am totally social media-challenged. I don't even know the difference between IG and Twitter, and what is involved in communication on IG. I read Kate's TL on Twitter, but that's about it. FB thoroughly confuses me!
I thought Barb went private when the non-fans were giving her all that grief about de-clawing her cats.
It's simple. Going private on IG can only make your page private to just your approved followers. When you go around liking and posting on other people's IG feeds it's not private if that feed is public. I wonder if some of the sheep don't realize that.
Blowing In The Wind said... 68
Here's the link to Kate's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kateplusmy8/?hl=en
The thing I find confusing about IG is that the order of the comments seems to be random and move around. If you are looking at Kate's comments, when she answers someone you have to look for that person's ID (which she puts in her comment), because the question might be far away from the reply. Otherwise, it's pretty straightforward.
I'm also a bit skeptical about the maze sighting but who knows. It's just so redundant and while not babyish, the kids could be doing stuff that's way more grown up.
Plus, I can't get past filming Colin as soon as he returns home. It's such bullsh*t that this kid goes to inpatient treatment for emotional and behavioral problems, then has to work and put be thrust right back in the public eye.
What mother would risk adding something to his plate like that?
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What mother would risk adding something to his plate like that?
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She. Doesn't. Care. As long as she can film and make that 40K check.
She. Didn't. Care. When Cara had a badly sprained ankle that was hurting her, but she told a nanny that was there to take her so she could stay and film Family Night in the basement.
One of many examples.
Any mother that wouldn't take their own child to the drs. office because they were hurt and chose to stay home and film to make that money is a very vile, greedy, insensitive, inhumane person.
Did Kate dump or get dumped by Julie Carson May? No longer listed as client on Motion Media website.
http://mediamotionintl.com/#clients
FLMom said... 73
Some time after TLC dropped her in 2011, Kate disappeared from that site. I don't know if she's really not a client anymore. But maybe Steve, as "road manager" (which is what Kate called him in her TLC exit interview published in People at the time), is now serving as her manager/agent. Or maybe there's just no benefit to May advertising her association with Kate. It's been at least 4 years or so her name was removed.
. They have a son and daughter, and didn't even allow their kids' NAMES to be printed in the article. Talk about being careful to respect your children's privacy!
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Same is true for Alexis Bledel. heck, she even managed to keep the fact that she had given birth a secret, until a former co-star spilled the beans. There are no photos of Bledel's kid, no name, not even a birthday. Keep in mind Alexis is around the age Kate was when she first sold the kids, yet it seems even at a young age some mothers are capable of making the right choices.
RoxyHelen (#75), thanks for that Alexis Bledel story. I'm a big Gilmore Girls fan, and am happy to know that about her.
It's TFW's hypocrisy about privacy that gets my goat. She filmed her toddlers sitting on potties with their pants around their ankles, but, uh oh, better put masking tape on their backpacks while traveling so no one sees their names. She's revealed intimate details about each child's personal quirks and preferences for a decade, with a camera crew in tow to document every experience, yet she whined on Twitter about losing trees in a storm because they gave her privacy.
I think Kate was so excited to make money by selling the kids, she had a singular focus on doing it. The thought of not nursing was all important. You could see how she hated the though of having to go into work.
FlimsyFlamsy said #76
Are you looking forward to the GG revvival as much as I am? :)
Ok well, the Unknown is me again, I hit send before writing the name, by accident.
The more that comes out, the more insane this story gets. Obviously, this is a woman with way too much time on her hands. And I wonder if using the kids' trusts for certain expenses extends to a private investigator to stalk their dad. Unbelievable.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-admits-hiring-private-investigator-stalk-ex-jon-shocking-police-report/
What must this school think of her? From ROL story:
"“Katie said that she hired a private detective to follow Jonathan and she was aware that Jonathan was at [the children’s school] right now,” the responding officer wrote in the April 27, 2015 incident report from Manheim Township Police Department.
“Katie believed that Jonathan was guarding [Hannah] and feared that if he saw her or the police, he would take [her] out of school and flee.”
According to officers, Kate arrived to the school, but Jon was nowhere to be found. She eventually took her daughter home from class.
As Radar previously reported, sources close to Jon said Kate’s concerns about her ex’s relationship with their little girl were completely unfounded."
Now I'm wondering if SHE's planting the stories for publicity. Maybe she can lure a pap back to rural PA.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/10/kate-gosselin-jon-will-steal-my-daughter-and-do-bad-things/
Has TFW finally told her fans when the show will return or is she still teasing them about it?
I wrote to TLC last week and they replied today.
"Dear Viewer,
Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your interest in our programming. Kate Plus 8 is scheduled to air on November 22, 2016." (with the usual disclaimer that of course programming is subject to change) Signed by "viewer relations".
No mention of whether it's a new season of shows, one episode, whether it's a new episode or a rerun, just the date. LOL It's interesting that they're airing during the holiday season. Did they do this once before?
If TFW hasn't announced the date yet, I wonder how long it'll take for this info to filter thru the blogs to them. lol
RoxyHelen (#78), yes, I'm quite excited about the Gilmore Girls reboot!
Sherri (#83), I'll give Gladys until midnight before she takes the air date info over to Twitter. Can't do it too quickly, or she'll be busted for reading here at the cesspool of hate!
"Dear Viewer,
Thank you for contacting TLC. We appreciate your interest in our programming. Kate Plus 8 is scheduled to air on November 22, 2016." (with the usual disclaimer that of course programming is subject to change) Signed by "viewer relations".
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So TLC says that Kate plus 8 is returning Nov. 22? Interesting that there is no mention of it on the Kate plus 8 FB page. Little People, Big World and Outdaughtered are both returning in November, and both of their FB pages(that are run by TLC) have already announced their air dates and times.
Little People, Big World
October 22 at 1:05pm ·
Like if you can't wait for the return of #LPBW on Tuesday, November 22 at 8/7c!
OutDaughtered
October 19 at 1:18pm ·
The babies are on the move! Watch the new season of #OutDaughtered on November 15 at 9/8c
The local police must be so sick of the Gosselin crap already.
I think this pretty much convinces me that Kate won't stop until Jon has his parental rights terminated, or he's put behind bars.
Or both.
What a toxic environment SHE has created.
To add to my previous post, TLC.com also shows the new air dates for Little People, Big World and Outdaughtered on both of their pages. But nada on the Kate plus 8 page.
November 22. So they probably want to use the footage they recently shot and the footage they shot in Jan-Feb is either:
a) getting tossed
b) airing in jan 2017, making it season apropriate and potentially getting people to believe it was just shot
Right?
What I think the Nov footage will be:
-Collin's issues segment-victim Kate, struggling to do what's best for beloved son, Collin painted as a kid with many issues. Kate will make a point of saying the remaining 7 are THRIVING in school, though adjusting to their brother's hardship
-Haloween footage with throw back footage to the previous pumpkin patches, Jon will be cut out of the old clips
-at least some mention of Mady and Cara's 16th birthday
-Jon being thrown under the bus by Kate, more or less subtly
-PUPPIES.PUPPIES.PUPPIES.
-did I mention puppies?
-Zorro, to show us he is still alive
-Shoka, to show us how well he is treated
What does everyone else think?
November 22, huh? Just goes to show, they don't tell her nuthin'! LOL, I wonder why that is. And why would they have TWO debuts on the same date? I guess either LPBW or Outdaughtered is the designated lead-in, IF this date is actually accurate. Gah, she makes me sick.
A private investigator??? What a horrific waste of money.
She's insane. Just insane.
What is she trying to accomplish here? She already has plenty of custody. She can film the kids and Jon hasn't been able to stop it. She's successfully alienated three of them, congrats. She really cares that just five of the kids see him once in awhile? Even that is too much for her? Why doesn't she just enjoy the break when they visit and move on?
It's safe to assume the investigator uncovered nothing or she would have been running to court with it to restrict him down to nothing. I'm sorry you made babies with that woman, Jon. Now, you're paying.
There really is something to be said for her having too much time on her hands. She needs to get a job and work when she's not filming. In all seriousness, I really think it would help her rambling manic mind from developing all kinds of wild scenarios about Jon, if she just kept herself a little busier.
Kate is so confusing,she's been giving her fans random air dates like May,June,October and then January.Now on IG she said "Oh its coming back sooner then you think."According to Sherri comments,TLC is saying November.If true,then why doesn't Kate just tell her fans the actual airdate since she's been giving them random airdates this whole year?SMH don't tell your fans possible airdates then turn around and tease fans saying its coming back sooner but not give them the airdate.
And so TLC will just air Kate's show, keep on filming, meanwhile, it's a fricking horror show.
I can't imagine the emotional trauma those kids have gone through.
The thing is, it's no secret how bad thing are at home for those kids, yet people still demand to see them on their tvs.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-claims-against-ex-jon-daughter-needed-therapy/
"“Jonathan has been picking her up early from school instead of letting her come home on the bus with her siblings,” Kate told officers, according to the Manheim Township Police Department incident report filed on April 27, 2015.
PHOTOS: So ‘Upset!’ Jon Gosselin Lashes Out After Kate Sends Son Away To Treatment
As Radar reported earlier today, Kate admitted to cops that she had hired a private investigator to trail Jon, 39, and learned that he was at their kids’ school that very minute.
“Katie believed that Jonathan was guarding her and feared that if he saw her or the police, he would take [Hannah] out of school and flee,” cops continued in their report.
The hysterical mother of eight said she intended to send her daughter to a counselor immediately following Jon’s alleged actions.
“She was going to insist that they release [her] into her custody so that she can take [her] to a therapist to see if anything would be disclosed,” police wrote."
So Jon took Hannah out of school/picked her up directly and Kate thought he was abusing her?
If she was sent to a therapist or counselor and anything was discovered, I assume Jon's parental rights would have been affected, for all the kids.
This is just getting bizarre.
So her plan was to rush Hannah right over to a therapist and demand that Hannah disclose any abuse to the therapist? Wth???
Man, she really loses her mind whenever something doesn't go her way. The second Hannah just needed a little break from some bickering between Kate and Steve, Kate went apeshit.
You take a kid to a therapist enough demanding they disclose "abuse" and next thing you know the therapist is reporting YOU.
This almost sounds like a form of munchhausen syndrome by proxy, if she were to take the child repeatedly to therapists demanding they uncover abuse by Jon.
"“Jonathan has been picking her up early from school instead of letting her come home on the bus with her siblings,” Kate told officers, according to the Manheim Township Police Department incident report filed on April 27, 2015.
“Katie believed that Jonathan was guarding her and feared that if he saw her or the police, he would take [Hannah] out of school and flee,” cops continued in their report."
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From the original InTouch story published in May 2015:
"During a visit with her father on April 23, “She said she didn’t want to go home to her mom [Kate] because she can’t take the cruelty anymore,” an insider exclusively reveals to In Touch. “Hannah was so afraid of her mom that Jon became concerned and called [Berks County, Pennsylvania] Children & Youth Services and filed a report — and he took emergency custody of Hannah” — without a court order."
If Hannah was afraid of Kate and didn't want to go home, why wouldn't Jon pick her up at school? Apparently he was concerned for Hannah, and was "guarding her" from Kate.
So Kate decided that Hannah needed to see a therapist because Hannah didn't want to go home to her? Of course, she wouldn't think that she was the reason behind it, and that it must be something that Jon did. Just shows how she considers herself blameless for anything, and it must always be someone else's fault if things don't go her way.
To all the people who have raked Jon over the coals and called him every name in the book for not doing more to be with his kids, this is all some insight into what he's been up against. What a despicable human being TFW is. And what a horrible mother.
You take a kid to a therapist enough demanding they disclose "abuse" and next thing you know the therapist is reporting YOU.
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...and there's the possibility that if this is done repeatedly, the child may actually believe he/she was abused.
"The local police must be so sick of the Gosselin crap already."
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I wonder if both law enforcement agencies are sick of her. She's in Berks County. The school is located in Manheim Township, Lancaster County, so that's where those reports were made. Hasn't she also filed reports in her own area? It seems to me that she did.
She has clearly went over the rational line and crossed over the irrational line. She needs a family court ordered psych evaluation.
The turmoil, uproar and pain she has caused those children will leave deep scars for a long time.
Strange, she would have to hire a private detective to follow Jon.
I guess that was what the screaming was about.
Steve refused to do it.
"“Jonathan has been picking her up early from school instead of letting her come home on the bus with her siblings,” Kate told officers, according to the Manheim Township Police Department incident report filed on April 27, 2015."
What does this mean? It sounds like she wanted to ride home with him on occasion---it doesn't read like she didn't go home at the end of the ride. I think Kate was far more afraid of what Hannah might have been telling Jon about what was going on with Collin. It also doesn't say that Jon was outside of his rights to pick up his daughter from school---you'd think if that were the case, Kate would have said so to the police.
What a mess. I doubt we'll ever get close to the truth of what happened, but I will never believe that Jon was doing anything inappropriate with his daughter. If TLC understands how sick Kate Gosselin is, and still airs what she films, they are in for a world of hurt some day soon.
EXCLUSIVE! KATE GOSSELIN ABUSE SCANDAL
By dsiegel
Mar 26, 2015 @ 17:17PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-kate-gosselin-abuse-scandal/
KATE FILED HER COMPLAINT in April 2015, against Jon,one month after he filed his concern and allegations against Kate for child abuse in court.
What the HELL is wrong with the media that they don't research information before publishing this BS?
I hope that Jon sues ALL of them,including Kate!
I would assume that if TFW rushed Hannah to a counselor Hannah would have disclosed what she'd told Jon about TFW and the problems at home. I doubt that TFW rushed her anywhere but home for filming.
Think McMartin Pre-School.
November 22? That's the week of Thanksgiving. All the major shows have their mid-season cliffhanger the week before and don't resume until January because they know people are busy with family during the holidays.
Probably for the best, she'd get creamed by the NCIS, NCIS:NO, and Bull juggernaut if she was up against first-run episodes.
I imagine Kate was hoping she could plant the seed in Hannah's mind that Jon was paying her too much attention and get her to make some kind of vague statement to a therapist that would be just enough to start an investigation on Jon. The truth is irrelevant, she wanted Jon to suffer for giving Hannah a safe space away from Kate.
"Kate Gosselin didn’t mince words in a shocking lawsuit against her ex-husband, Jon Gosselin. In the bombshell police report — obtained exclusively by In Touch — the mother-of-eight not only accuses Jon of being a drug dealer, but also alleges he has a “suspicious” relationship with their daughter Hannah."
Which lawsuit was that? I'm really out of the loop here.
Strange, she would have to hire a private detective to follow Jon.
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Well, she does have a relationship with a defective detective!
MikeB said... 104
November 22? That's the week of Thanksgiving. All the major shows have their mid-season cliffhanger the week before and don't resume until January because they know people are busy with family during the holidays.
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Well, but, as noted above, they're bringing back outdaughtered on 11.15 and LPBW on 11/22. This is TLC, they don't have too many good choices.
To the extent that Steve Neild has aided and abetted Kate's very sick vendetta against her ex-husband, he should be ashamed of himself. There's gotta be better ways of making a living than catering to a lunatic shrew 24/7 and helping her destroy her children's relationships with their father. If yo're still married to him, Gina, then shame on you, too.
Speaking of this story,here is Milo's deflective tweet with a platitude that saids."Im not going to tear you down...If you're bad mouthing me,you're already down" Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5h5 hours ago
For the #KnowItAll Critics & Trolls... @Kateplusmy8
jamezvader1194 said... 110
She must have a subscription to Platitude Digest or something.
Jamezvader1194 (#110), oy, Gladys and her sappy sayings. She could've expressed the same sentiment with the lyrics to one-hit wonder Chumbawumba's classic survival song: "I get knocked down, but I get up again, you ain't never gonna keep me down!"
Couldn't Jon say the same thing about TFW?
That if TFW is badmouthing him, then SHE'S already down?
Well, but, as noted above, they're bringing back outdaughtered on 11.15 and LPBW on 11/22. This is TLC, they don't have too many good choices.
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I think 90 Day Fiance is taking off for them.
handinhand said... 114
Well, but, as noted above, they're bringing back outdaughtered on 11.15 and LPBW on 11/22. This is TLC, they don't have too many good choices.
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I think 90 Day Fiance is taking off for them.
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Great. At least that show is built on consenting adults.
This all happened 1 1/2 yrs ago. Perhaps the Court settled things....The kids are living with Kate, Jon still sees some of the kids (as before), and Jon still says that he still doesn't know why he doesn't see all of the kids. What's changed? Perhaps Kate was ordered into therapy. The kids were in Counseling when the People magazine was issued. Who knows. The whole family - Jon included - have alot of issues to deal with.
I kind of wonder now if Jon claiming he doesn't know why the kids don't visit is not true at all. But rather the best way to prevent questions and further prying that would bring out all this garbage and upset Kate. Thus making things worse for the kids. I really do feel like this was that missing piece I always felt was out there.
@Sad but true I never gave any of Milo's platitudes much thought but to be honest,these platitudes sound dumb and try to act as though they have such great meaning behind them when they don't.Like i simply google search single mom platitudes and the first thing i see is something Milo would share to Kate but it doesn't sound like something that's intelligent or has any big meaning behind it.Hell,some of them sound very sexist towards men.Like i saw two that said that single moms should celebrate father's dad as well and talk about deadbeat fathers.Yet when i search single dad platitudes the 1st thing i get is "Dad's depression,and its something about paying child support."In fact,there aren't a whole lot of platitudes that have to do with single dads.
he Kennedys - After Camelo
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I agree, he needs to own whatever role he played. It's really unclear where he stands, but I can't imagine Kate would keep him around if he were trying to talk some sense into her about Jon. Though who knows.
I have to admit I'm very curious what they were bickering about. Isn't it possible they were bickering over how she is handling the Jon situation?
She has lost a lot of family and friends over the years. It's quite possible the majority of the losses involve moral stands on the part of those people who could not stand by and "support" her and her actions by remaining in that relationship with her. They had to leave to send the message they do not condone her.
Shamelessly standing by someone taking part in terrible behavior, whether it is a marriage, or friendship, or whatever kind of relationship, IS condoning it. Which is why women who stand by their destructive man should be held accountable for that.
That was in response to this, not the Kennedys, which I was just googling (new miniseries next year!)
"To the extent that Steve Neild has aided and abetted Kate's very sick vendetta against her ex-husband, he should be ashamed of himself."
Philly 4 for 4 said... 116
. . . Perhaps Kate was ordered into therapy. The kids were in Counseling when the People magazine was issued. Who knows. The whole family - Jon included - have alot of issues to deal with.
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Kate said they were in counseling. You believe her? I don't. I don't believe anything she says.
Looks like some of the media can't understand the difference between filing a police report and filing a lawsuit. Lol, two vastly different things.
On another note I really wish the media would just publish the police report in full. I would rather read it myself then have the media summarize it for me and mess that up.
What a mess. I doubt we'll ever get close to the truth of what happened, but I will never believe that Jon was doing anything inappropriate with his daughter.
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On the contrary, a normal person reads that and sees someone trying to help their daughter.
We have a clear statement from the police that Hannah was upset over some bickering at Kate's house. In response, Jon took some action--arranging different transportation for her from school, letting her stay over at his place when she needed a break, etc.
Whether that was the right or wrong way to handle it, obviously a parent's heart is in the right place when intervening like that.
So Kate decided that Hannah needed to see a therapist because Hannah didn't want to go home to her? Of course, she wouldn't think that she was the reason behind it, and that it must be something that Jon did. Just shows how she considers herself blameless for anything, and it must always be someone else's fault if things don't go her way.
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That's right, she is blameless, and it's always someone else's fault.
And I'll go even further than that; she has an incredible amount of confidence, or delusion, that service providers, police, and other authorities will completely see things her way, no questions asked. When they don't, she seems truly shocked and gets revved up even more.
She is so convinced she has this called right, she was ready to throw her child in front of a therapist. It doesn't occur to her that any therapist worth their salt is going to be raising some serious red flags about her behavior and her handling of this situation, and have some serious questions about her allegations. A child's therapist is there for the CHILD, and has no obligation to Kate. Kate is in such another world, she really thinks a therapist is going to say yes Kate, let me help us get to the bottom of this abuse! We must save the children together!
Wow. Really incredible how unhinged she's become.
So Kate decided that Hannah needed to see a therapist because Hannah didn't want to go home to her? Of course, she wouldn't think that she was the reason behind it, and that it must be something that Jon did. Just shows how she considers herself blameless for anything, and it must always be someone else's fault if things don't go her way.
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Well! Turns out, the tabloid trash has a great source there. Keep that one on the till.
@Admin I think the reason for that its because Kate sees her fans always believe whatever she says must be true so in her mind she thinks everyone will believe her.In her mind,all she has to do is play the victim of being the single mom of 8 raising them by herself and she'll think everyone will feel sorry for her.Sorry honey but not everyone is gonna to get fooled by you and will see right though you.
@Admin I think the reason for that its because Kate sees her fans always believe whatever she says must be true so in her mind she thinks everyone will believe her
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Yes you're right that surely could have contributed to it.
It seems a lot of celebs suffer from this, in that when everyone around you becomes a yes man, you start to believe your own publicity. When someone suddenly says no, you can't believe it.
It's not unlike a child. If you always tell them yes, of course they're going to tantrum the rare time you tell them no.
I think we can be sure that Kate won't make the same mistake again. I'm sure once the police actually spoke to Hannah and she told them what was bothering her, it must have come as quite a shock to Kate. No doubt she denied it, but I think the police learned something they maybe didn't know before.
I wonder what happened to Hannah once Kate got her home. I bet the roof came off.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 117
I kind of wonder now if Jon claiming he doesn't know why the kids don't visit is not true at all. But rather the best way to prevent questions and further prying that would bring out all this garbage and upset Kate. Thus making things worse for the kids. I really do feel like this was that missing piece I always felt was out there.
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If that's the reason, then why go on numerous programs, and have nothing really to say except, that he has no idea why he doesn't see the kids. It seems that he didn't attempt/succeed to seek custody of Hannah. Again, this is 1 1/2 yrs old news, and it seems nothing has changed. Something is missing.
Philly 4 for 4 said... 129
If that's the reason, then why go on numerous programs, and have nothing really to say except, that he has no idea why he doesn't see the kids. It seems that he didn't attempt/succeed to seek custody of Hannah. Again, this is 1 1/2 yrs old news, and it seems nothing has changed. Something is missing.
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I don't know about you, but if I was suddenly forced to confront, VIA THE POLICE, the sort of accusations she made against him, I can tell you I would very reluctant to bait the beast. He's still seeing some of his kids, so that's great. And it could be he's being very careful now if he's trying to build a case for additional custody. She paid someone to follow him, for chrissake. Who knows what else she might pay someone to do if she decides he's a threat to her limelight? It might seem like nothing has changed (and that's what Kate would like you to think), but I could understand why he'd not be advertising it at this point.
(Sorry, I'm a bit behind.) I think the time Aaden and Alexis spent with Shoka was called a sleepover because, as we know, Shoka isn't normally allowed to sleep inside. It was a special treat to spend time inside with the kids.
I, too, would like to see the whole police report about Jon. I think it could be interesting. I know Kate and Jon do not get along at all. But most divorced people do not have a bunch of police reports. They just handle things. Even if they dislike each other, they somehow come to an agreement when necessary. Kate needs to call the police and hire a private detective. She is consumed by her hatred of Jon. And then she fights with Steve too. I have to wonder if there is anything in her life she is actually happy about not angry about. Her boobs? Alcohol? The deck? (Not Nookie Pookie. I don't buy that for a minute.)
I have absolutely no doubt in my mind the PI Kate hired was Steve. He's a licensed PI and I read a story on him a few years ago that he started out as a PI here in the US. I think he has been involved in many shady dealings for her over the years against Jon. He's her partner in dirty dealings, IMO.
So this week ROL is eking out the exact same stories in the same piecemeal fashion as InTouch did last week. Very strange.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-feared-life-police-jon-gun/
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/kate-gosselin-police-report.pdf
Radar has a PDF of the police report. Hopefully the above link will work. It's dated April 27, 2015 and states that Kate told the police 7 of 8 children attend the school. Was it known that Collin had already left the school in 2015?
Jane said... 134
Yes, pretty sure Collin had left the school after end-of-term May 2014. She announced somewhere at that point that he wouldn't be going back.
It's very interesting that People mag has completely ignored this latest round of revelations. Not a single mention. I guess when there's real journalistic "evidence," like a police report, to refute one of the cover stories, they're just not interested.
Thanks, Sad but true!
Well, the report of this incident looks complete. And here's an interesting tidbit:
"Kate believes that the school has an equal relationship with Jonathan and believes that they will promptly call call him and alert him to what is going on."
So that answers some questions. I bet this is half the problem---the school treating Jon like a normal parent? How could they!?
It goes on to say that Jon called the police after Kate left with Hannah and told them he had obtained an "emergency custody order" and he wanted to know why Katie was allowed to remove [H] from school." So SHE was the one violating an order, NOT Jon.
I love how they call her by her real name, "Katie," throughout the report.
P.S., Jane, thanks for the link, it worked fine.
"Gosselin advised 7 of her 8 children attend school at [probably Lancaster]" So, in April 2015 Collin was no longer attending Lancaster. Which means he's had issues a lot longer than Kate says yet her priority was to put a bandaid on and keep filming. Someone explain to me again, how is it that there are still people in this world who think she is a good mother?
I went back and checked Kate's twitter timeline during this period. Interesting, that on April 27, the day of this police report, she tweeted not just one, but TWO pictures of all 3 girl tups lying in her bed later that evening.
Kate Gosselin
@Kateplusmy8
My little girlies have overtaken my bed... And what am I doing, you ask? Cleaning the kitchen.... #MomLife
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/592860192737501185
Kate Gosselin
@Kateplusmy8
Haha and this one... #FunnyFaces #NoIdeaWhereImSleeping
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/592860950555971584
Nothing like giving Jon a big FU, by showing "I have Hannah, and you don't."
KIAT (#140), thanks for posting those tweets.
#MomLife" -- yep, just an ordinary day of dysfunction in the life of a horrible mother who shamelessly puts her hatred of her ex ahead of her children's best interests. Every. Single. Time.
Kate is a twit, not only giving Jon an FU but also probably bribing Hannah. Are the children(especially the tups) usually allowed in Kate's bedroom? We know that the answer is no so it must have been a special treat for Hannah to be in mummy's room and the other girl tups must have said "me too" and probably Kate thought it's best to keep all girls happy.
I may be wrong, but the picture seems to be getting a little clearer with the actual police report.
If the incident with Hannah not wanting to return home happened at the end of March (the one where Kate is screaming at the curb), and the police report happened in April, then that must mean Jon went the entirely legal route and got his emergency custody order before he started to pick Hannah up from school. The report makes it sound like he was taking her back to Kate's, he wasn't "kidnapping" her, Kate just didn't like the fact that she was with him. And then he subsequently tried to get custody and got shot down.
Now what was happening around this time? Oh yeah, spring break from school and Katie's 40th-b'day Mexican extravaganza. No wonder Kate was worried---miss a paid trip at a foreign beach because her daughter would rather spend time with her dad? NFW.
Do we know when Jon got the emergency custody order for H? Was it before TFW called the police and then removed her from school and took her to the therapist or was it after TFW removed her? The police report says: "Jonathan said he obtained an emergency custody order and he wanted to know why Katie was allowed to remove H from school."
It sounds to me like Jon already had the emergency order (which is why he had H in the first place and why he took her to school, etc) and why he told the officer he was upset TFW had taken her. If that is the case, I can only imagine how upset he must have been that TFW did that. And, how upset he must have been with the school for allowing TFW to take H if Jon had told them he had the order. OR, the fit TFW would have thrown at the school with the administrators when she insisted on taking H from there. What an awful mess for H, and all of the children, to live through all of this because TFW can't accept the fact that her children have a father and whom they love and they have a right to be in each other's lives.
Then, the officer writes that he told Jon to contact his attorney on how to proceed. It's not just the fact that it costs Jon $$$$ each and every time he talks to his attorney, but he has to also pay court costs and fees which are by no means cheap; then he finally has the emergency custody order and the police basically tell him it's not their problem and to call his attorney. Dang I just can't imagine what all Jon has gone through because of the vindictiveness of TFW.
Anyone who thinks TFW doesn't make it difficult for the kids who see Jon are kidding themselves. Yeah, sheeple, I'm looking at you! That house must be absolute hell to live in with the mind games, guilting, Jon bashing, and anger TFW uses on them. Just like when TFW is always on her phone when she's with the kids, she must be so preoccupied with exacting her revenge that she's never really present in anything she should be doing. Whoever said it above, I agree with you, I think she's a sociopath. None of the children can escape the toxic environment TFW has created without suffering long lasting emotional scars.
I think back to the 8 innocent little children when the show started and contrast it to present day and two things are central to the picture, or dysfunction, and that's TFW and TLC. TFW for obvious hands-on reasons and TLC for helping TFW cover up the abuse / airing a FAKE story that they label as reality. This show is about as far from reality as you can get where this family is concerned. The G-8's brains must be so scrambled trying to reconcile the true reality of their lives and the fake crap TFW and TLC are trying to convince the world is real.
RoxyHelen said... 142
See my take on the three girls in Kate's bedroom (ostensibly without Kate for part of the time) is Kate ensuring H is not alone with her thoughts or her phone. "See how much fun we can have? If only you would behave---the way I want you to." She's getting the other kids to police H and pressure her to go along with Mommy, otherwise no one will be happy.
Sad but true (#145), you make a good point about the optics of that tweet.
Funny how TFW had to toss in that she was busy cleaning the kitchen. So the kids are away from her all day, but she's going to stay busy cleaning, and not spending time with them. #HorribleMomLife.
I promise this isn't a political comment!
I think this has been mentioned before, but, Megyn Kelly has such an attractive short haircut that I think TFW would look pretty with. She could save a fortune on those extension, which are probably damaging to the hair she does have. Plus she could save a lot of time by not having to take care of that long style.
Sad but true said... 143
I may be wrong, but the picture seems to be getting a little clearer with the actual police report.
If the incident with Hannah not wanting to return home happened at the end of March (the one where Kate is screaming at the curb), and the police report happened in April, then that must mean Jon went the entirely legal route and got his emergency custody order before he started to pick Hannah up from school.
The report makes it sound like he was taking her back to Kate's, he wasn't "kidnapping" her, Kate just didn't like the fact that she was with him. And then he subsequently tried to get custody and got shot down.
Now what was happening around this time? Oh yeah, spring break from school and Katie's 40th-b'day Mexican extravaganza. No wonder Kate was worried---miss a paid trip at a foreign beach because her daughter would rather spend time with her dad? NFW.
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The incident with Hannah not wanting to return home happened on April 23, four days before this report, not at the end of March.
Kate is a twit said... 148
Thanks, for some reason I thought it had been posted here that the first incident was March. It's so hard to keep it all straight when it comes out in fits and starts. So this all happened (presumably) after the Mexico trip.
"Kate believes that the school has an equal relationship with Jonathan and believes that they will promptly call call him and alert him to what is going on."
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As they shoul,d you cow.
Much like her sheeple, she seems to be confusing legal custody with parental rights. The school can tell a parent whatever they darn well please regardless of who shares what custody. Only when a parent loses parental rights which involves a total loss of access to the child (or in CA we can specifically limit ed rights) does the school lose the right to inform them of things. Now depending on who has legal custody that doesn't mean Kate doesn't have veto power at the school if they disagree on a school decision, but she has no right to take away Jon's right to be informed as to what is happening with his children.
In fact when they were negotiating legal custody a reasonable attorney might surely have told him it doesn't in any way mean you can't participate in their schooling--not realizing Kate was going to make even that a nightmare. I still believe the legal custody was a concession to try to calm her down which sadly didn't pan out.
It sounds like the school in this instance was being reasonable, respectful, rational.
I went back and checked Kate's twitter timeline during this period. Interesting, that on April 27, the day of this police report, she tweeted not just one, but TWO pictures of all 3 girl tups lying in her bed later that evening.
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Such a nasty woman.
We're allowed to say that if it's TRUE, right?
God help Kate the day her children realize they are her PAWNS.
She must think her kids really are stupid and are never going to come to this realization. How insulting for her to think so low of her own children and their intelligence.
I took a look at the blog archives to see what our reactions were to Kate's accidental "protection mode" tweet on May 1, 2015.
Flimsy Flamsy--you nailed it! Since it's now been shown that Kate said she hired a private detective to tail Jon. This is what you posted back then:
FlimsyFlamsy said... 182
Anyone think TFW's been despatching spies to Jon's gigs, hoping
to catch a photo of him smoking or drinking or talking to a girl,
which she could sell to Radar? It's not just #WimpyBoys like Jon
and Robert who have bills to pay. Pure speculation, of course.
May 1, 2015 at 4:55 PM
Kate is a twit said... 148
The incident with Hannah not wanting to return home happened on April 23, four days before this report, not at the end of March.
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The police report is dated April 27, which is the following Monday. So I guess we can assume that Hannah was with Jon on Thursday night (the 23rd), Friday, and then the weekend. (I wonder if the school was closed those days and/or it was Jon's custody weekend.) Then on Monday, after Jon has duly delivered Hannah to school (presumably), Kate raises the alarm. So she would have to have known he had this emergency order, unless she just agreed (after her public meltdown) to Hannah not coming home from Thursday on and assumed it would all go back to "normal" on the Monday.
She's one crafty little fruitcake.
Steve may have had something to do with the PI, but I doubt it was Steve himself. A PI has to be able to come in close proximity to Jon without being recognized. The silver fox would be spotted by Jon in a heartbeat. But I can see him arranging for a close buddy to do the job.
Still, maybe Steve agreed to a PI knowing they would find nothing, in the hopes that he could help Kate understand there really is nothing here and it's time to move on.
I don't know why I keep giving Steve the benefit of the doubt, but there is a part of me that gets the sense that he thinks he is the only one who can keep Kate from becoming completely unglued. Their relationship is odd, almost like he gives her little concessions to appease her, like you're trying to prevent your 3-year-old from having a tantrum. And not because you really think they deserve the concession. The fact that there has been bickering between them is a huge clue to me that he is NOT on the same page as her, not by a long shot.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 152
B-b-but she's got all those terrific memories on video! And the bad ones are all being swiffered as we speak. I just realized, TLC is very probably getting rid of the evidence as much to protect themselves as her. How forward-thinking of them.
@KIAT Kate also uploaded a picture of her,Hannah and Leah at some type of event i forget what the event was called but its this one. https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11000638_880575118651155_2143160700840350325_n.jpg?oh=d7e90b35e1c0193482bb4cd43d95789e&oe=58A338C2
I just cannot imagine what those kids' lives must be like. Hannah is smiling in those twitter photos and just by looking at the pictures, you think everything's all right. However, the little girl smiling in that photo has had a nightmarish day: she got pulled out of class, her mom showed up and probably made a scene and dragged her home; and that's not counting the horrible week she's had: there has been lots of yelling, she had to runaway to daddy, live with the dread of what will happen when she eventually gets back home.
You can do that with so many pictures of the Gosselin kids and it's heartbreaking. How is that a good life?
Sad but true said... 121
Philly 4 for 4 said... 116
. . . Perhaps Kate was ordered into therapy. The kids were in Counseling when the People magazine was issued. Who knows. The whole family - Jon included - have alot of issues to deal with.
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Kate said they were in counseling. You believe her? I don't. I don't believe anything she says.
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I think she is setting Jon up with the drug dealer accusation. I wouldn't put it past her to make sure drugs were found on him. She is bat crazy and not going to stop harassing Jon. Even though this was a year and a half ago, the damage is already done.
I also believe that she lied to the police that she was on her way to take Hannah to a therapist. She took her home to film. She's a liar. Can't wait when she has to go to court and she has to submit proof that she actually took Hannah to a counselor.
Ruh. Roh.
@GollyGee This kinda of reminds me of when the whole Robert and Gosselin Book came out.The sheeple kept saying how Kate with the aid of Bullyville was going to expose Robert and Jon and how they were going to destroy them both in court over the journals.But,she ended up deciding to dismiss her suit because she had no case.Im certain if she had proof of her accusations towards not just Jon but Robert as well we wouldn't hear about Robert ever again,Jon would be in jail over the stuff she'd claimed he did to Hannah(If it was sexual abuse she accused him of.)and the kids will be filming extra crazy.I still laugh at how some of fans excuse for dropping the suit was that she wanted to "spare" Jon and Robert after they were praising and encouraging Kate to do something about it.
Interesting, that on April 27, the day of this police report, she tweeted not just one, but TWO pictures of all 3 girl tups lying in her bed later that evening.
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We don't actually know for a fact that the photos were taken that evening. Haven't posters here determined that Kate has fudged the timing of photos on previous occasions?
We don't actually know for a fact that the photos were taken that evening. Haven't posters here determined that Kate has fudged the timing of photos on previous occasions?
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I don't know that it much matters when the photos were taken the bigger point for me is that she was posting them right around the time of this great shakedown. It's too much of a coincidence, and it is an obvious F-U to anyone in the know. She knew exactly what she was doing in posting those, she's childish and more than that really is disturbed.
I just got my neighbor's copy of the InTouch with this story. There is definitely more than one police report out there, but ITW does not reproduce them in full as ROL did. You just see the snippets as they have been shown in their several stories over the past week.
So the two other police reports were on April 24 and, piecing it together from the story, probably April 23. The April 23 one would have to be where Hannah won't leave Jon's house, resulting in a screaming harpy on the curb: "Complainant stated she would wait outside all night until she sees her daughter." Looks like Jon picked her up on Wednesday the 22nd from school, his custody night, and must have collected her again on Thursday and brought her to his house---at Hannah's request. Unless Kate repeated this scene more than once.
The story goes on to say that "Officers who responded to Kate's initial call reported that the little girl was safe and sound but did not want to return home. [Kate and Steve yelling, etc. ] But Kate wouldn't let it go. The next day, a report says, Kate told cops Jon had "kidnapped" Hannah and was "a drug dealer who uses his disc jockey employment as a front to sell narcotics." There is a corner of a report showing the date of April 24, so this one must be "the next day."
The story ends with:
At an emergency custody hearing requested by Jon, a judge found no evidence to support Kate's accusations, says the insider, who believes Kate lashed out because she was upset that Hannah didn't want to leave and go film Kate Plus 8 [quelle surprise]. "All Kate cares about is her paycheck," says the insider. "Jon's been fighting so the kids don't have to film and is ready to go for joint legal custody. He misses them every day. He doesn't understand why Kate is still so angry after all these years."
There is one little sidebar that is quite interesting:
KATE'S BODYGUARD WAS IN HER WILL
In a 2009 version of the Gosselin Family Education Trust obtained exclusively by In Touch, Kate named her bodyguard Steve Neild as a successor co-trustee if Jon is unable to serve, and arranged for his kids [STEVE's kids??? However does that work?] to benefit if there's money left over. "This shows an extreme trust in their relationship," explains estate attorney Ross L. Schiller, who doesn't advise the Gosselins.
Now what was happening around this time? Oh yeah, spring break from school and Katie's 40th-b'day Mexican extravaganza. No wonder Kate was worried---miss a paid trip at a foreign beach because her daughter would rather spend time with her dad? NFW.
October 26, 2016 at 6:59 AM
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Isn't this the episode where Kate was throwing a bday party for herself and told her kids she was going away, before she told them they were ALL going to Mexico?
IIRC, she teased the kids and upset some of them so badly they got hysterical crying?
I know for sure one of the girls was crying her eyes out on the couch.
Am I right???
I imagine they're not publishing the reports because they want to drag out a couple week's worth of stories using tidbits of information. When they're done playing that game, I hope they just throw them all up as PDFs and we can actually seem the full content.
I never trust someone's interpretation of what a police report says. Never.
"Complainant stated she would wait outside all night until she sees her daughter."
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See, perfect example of how she doesn't see herself from the outside looking in, like at all. To me, loitering around all night trying to see your daughter is psycho, but I think she thinks it shows what a loving and concerned mother she is.
Also, I doubt it was all night. More likely 10 minutes. Who the hell was with the other kids??
I think back to the 8 innocent little children when the show started and contrast it to present day and two things are central to the picture, or dysfunction, and that's TFW and TLC.
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It's the saddest tale that not enough people know about. The collusion between Kate, Steve, TLC and who knows who else is the stuff of "gate" scandals.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 147
I promise this isn't a political comment!
I think this has been mentioned before, but, Megyn Kelly has such an attractive short haircut that I think TFW would look pretty with. She could save a fortune on those extension, which are probably damaging to the hair she does have. Plus she could save a lot of time by not having to take care of that long style.
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Totally agree! Kelly looks amazing with that sleek, short cut. Glad she got rid of the extensions or clip-ins.
I just don't get hair curtains.
Much like her sheeple, she seems to be confusing legal custody with parental rights. The school can tell a parent whatever they darn well please regardless of who shares what custody. Only when a parent loses parental rights which involves a total loss of access to the child (or in CA we can specifically limit ed rights) does the school lose the right to inform them of things
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I think Kate's been going for exactly that- Jon losing his parental rights all together.
So if she was waiting around all night hoping to get a glimpse of her daughter, who was at home with the other kids? Maybe she left them alone just like she accused Jon of doing. Oh wait, she's got that live-in not-a-nanny.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 182
Anyone think TFW's been despatching spies to Jon's gigs, hoping
to catch a photo of him smoking or drinking or talking to a girl,
which she could sell to Radar? It's not just #WimpyBoys like Jon
and Robert who have bills to pay. Pure speculation, of course.
May 1, 2015 at 4:55 PM
October 26, 2016 at 8:20 AM
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Yeah, wow! Nailed it.
I still laugh at how some of fans excuse for dropping the suit was that she wanted to "spare" Jon and Robert after they were praising and encouraging Kate to do something about it.
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Spare them? Kate wouldn't spit on neither Jon nor Robert if they were on fire.
At an emergency custody hearing requested by Jon, a judge found no evidence to support Kate's accusations, says the insider, who believes Kate lashed out because she was upset that Hannah didn't want to leave and go film Kate Plus 8 [quelle surprise]. "All Kate cares about is her paycheck," says the insider. "Jon's been fighting so the kids don't have to film and is ready to go for joint legal custody. He misses them every day. He doesn't understand why Kate is still so angry after all these years."
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Is this shades of Mady not wanting to go out to Alaska to film? Mady wanted to stay with Jon and Kate threatened him with jail if he interfered.
I know one day, all or some of the kids are going to be very angry with Kate for putting filming them over everything else.
See, perfect example of how she doesn't see herself from the outside looking in, like at all. To me, loitering around all night trying to see your daughter is psycho, but I think she thinks it shows what a loving and concerned mother she is.
Also, I doubt it was all night. More likely 10 minutes. Who the hell was with the other kids??
October 26, 2016 at 10:00 AM
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I see a pattern of Kate getting quite hysterical when she tells her side of the story. She swore up and down, all Scarlett O'Hara-style, that she'd work at McDonalds if she had to.
That was utter b.s., but she'll say things that she knows aren't true, just to get sympathy and manipulate people.
I wonder if the cop even blinked when Kate threatened to stay outside of Jon's house all night long. Actually, I wonder if he asked her who was home with her kids!
Admin, remember the good ol' days when TLC still believed it can control what info gets distributed and what not and it send you a cease and desist letter trying to scare you off and shut this site down? Wow, look at TLC now, laying low and doing its best to fight off all the drama, as quietly as possible.
I don't know that it much matters when the photos were taken the bigger point for me is that she was posting them right around the time of this great shakedown.
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That was my point. This is not the first time she's posted old photos implying they were taken that day in order to manipulate public perception & send an FU to the ex.
Again, it's 1 1/2 yrs later, and it appears that custody has not changed, and Jon says that he doesn't know what some of the kids look like and doesn't know why only 4 kids come for custody. I think that would have been a huge issue to bring up at a hearing. His lawyer could find a way to tie it all together.
The police report confirms that Jon has contact with the school, so he should be going to different events at the school. Since Kate most likely doesn't tell him what is going on, he should look at the school calendar, call the school for monthly updates or ask the kids. He should be going to events in hopes that his children will be there. It would be inconvenient, but it would be worth it if he was able to see his children.
This is in the past, he needs to be taking steps to fight for custody. I hope that he is, but it's 1 1/2 yrs later, and the same things are being said.
Where is TLC's moral stance on all of this? Honey Boo Boo's show was slammed shut because it was rumored that her mother was dating a pedophile, and I agree with that. The family was in terrible disarray, with break ups, fighting, and scandal.
Kate Plus 8 is just as riddled with terrible conditions for children. Because of the show, Kate was gone to extremes to keep filming. She has been marginalizing Jon, (I believe) alienating Jon (quite successfully, but not quite all the way, yet). There are more police reports than you can shake a stick at, at this point, and the kids have been caught in the middle of this for YEARS now.
Whatever spin or FUN! TLC tries to can in their episodes, it's all bullshit because everyone knows about the expulsions, the in-patient admission of Colin, half the kids not seeing Jon, the twins ugliness towards their father, Hannah trying to stay with her father and Kate making wild accusations about him....
It goes on and on.
Also, not for nothing, but NFL player, Josh Brown, got released/suspended from his team for admitting abusing his wife IN HIS JOURNAL.
"In the documents, which were obtained by SportsNet New York, Brown paints a picture of his everyday life through his journal, and none of it is pretty.
In the journal, Brown admits that he’s been an abusive husband.
“I have physically, mentally, emotionally and verbally been a repulsive man,” Brown wrote.
In the same entry, he circled the phrase, “I have abused my wife.”
Brown was suspended for one game this season after the NFL finished its investigation into an arrest from May 2015. After an incident with his wife in Washington, Brown was charged with fourth-degree domestic violence.
At the time of his suspension, Brown was furious that the NFL had decided to suspend him..."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-giants-josh-brown-journal-i-have-abused-my-wife/
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 166
Also, I doubt it was all night. More likely 10 minutes. Who the hell was with the other kids??
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Why, Andrea and Steve, of course.
From what I gather from various reports and "piecing and patching" Kate started her tiraid on April 23 and continued on until April 27. And she still hadn't gotten everything out of her system by May 1, when she made the
full protection tweet.
Tucker's Mom said... 178
Maybe it's gonna take somebody getting arrested for TLC to shut down this tragic circus. I hope it doesn't end up being something even more serious.
Deliverence said... 180
Yeah, all this because her kid doesn't want to film? It's Ms. Contract-Honorer's signature on the contract, not Hannah's. This will surely become a bigger issue as time goes on.
Wow, look at TLC now, laying low and doing its best to fight off all the drama, as quietly as possible.
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Huh, yeah. No comment from TLC on this family's tragic situation. I do find it tragic. What's happened to this family since they were just trying to make ends meet, 2 mediocre people with a (supposed) great faith in God, a strong bond (Kate wrote of it many times in her journal), friend, family, community and plenty of help to get them through.
What a sad turn of events since TLC got their hooks into this family.
Not that Jon and Kate didn't relish the thought of the money, fame and goodies that came along with filming.
I'm thinking about those other 7 kids, and what was going through their minds while Mom was camped out, waiting for Hannah.
Especially C, who we now officially know has emotional challenges. I bet those poor children had 7 knotted stomachs, worrying about the outcome. Anyone who grew up in households with mental illness and/or addiction knows what I'm talking about.
This is in the past, he needs to be taking steps to fight for custody. I hope that he is, but it's 1 1/2 yrs later, and the same things are being said.
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This is a very big revelation which shows just what these kids are going through. Jon is obviously keeping it quiet, Kate of course doesn't want to public to know the lengths she'll go to in order to keep her kids filming.
This might be a report from over a year ago, but it's become public now and I have to wonder how TLC thinks they can spin this.
Most of all, because Kate has chosen to not be private, all of this sh*t is still tabloid fodder and the children have these sad headlines splashed across the internet and in magazines on an ongoing basis.
I don't know how I'd cope it I were a kid, growing up, and seeing these scathing stories over and over again.
Maybe it's gonna take somebody getting arrested for TLC to shut down this tragic circus.
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"Tragic Circus"...perfect book title for the tell-all that one of the kids will no doubt write.
Tucker's Mom (#183), contrast the situation with the G kids with how TLC responded to the report of Josh Duggar molesting his sisters. They were soooo worried about the mental health of their talent. Where's all that compassion and concern now? About children they've filmed for more than a decade? Shame on them.
I'm sure Kate is trying to take away Jon's parental rights. But she's such an idiot. Guess what, Kate? When your children are 18, all of this goes away. All you had to do was appear semi-rational for a few years and your children will be free to decide who they want to spend time with. I see it all the time. The mom keeps her obligation with dad's custody time but the kids see that all along she did her best for them. I have no idea how Jon acts with them in private but the kids are now old enough to understand if a parent is acting like a crazy person. At least some of them will leave Kate behind and not look back. It didn't have to be that way.
I do not give Steve the benefit of the doubt. He has taken complete advantage of this situation since the day he met Kate. He obviously realized how much she needed his "help" and has taken all he can take. A bodyguard as back-up estate manager, as someone on financial accounts, as someone who is so much not an employee that he argues with Kate. It's wrong. He contributed to the break-up of her marriage, he knows the details of abuse, he knows her problems. He has no morals. I don't care if he is holding her together. Maybe if she imploded she could get help instead of being on tv.
In other news, Daniel Boone School District (also in Berks County) has been approached by Lifetime about doing a reality show. Former students would come back to mentor students. The district would get a whopping $30,000 for selling the kids' privacy.
http://www.readingeagle.com/news/article/daniel-boone-board-gets-pitch-for-reality-show
Jeanne said...189
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The might as well put 30 pieces of silver for the kids privacy.
Reality tv is such a betrayal to the kids and their privacy.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 187
Tucker's Mom (#183), contrast the situation with the G kids with how TLC responded to the report of Josh Duggar molesting his sisters. They were soooo worried about the mental health of their talent. Where's all that compassion and concern now? About children they've filmed for more than a decade? Shame on them.\
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Great point. Where is TLC's concern for the children's well being? Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if TLC knew about the Duggars' skeletons and kept quiet.
Until they got booked on Oprah.
Jeanne said... 188
I do not give Steve the benefit of the doubt. He has taken complete advantage of this situation since the day he met Kate. He obviously realized how much she needed his "help" and has taken all he can take. A bodyguard as back-up estate manager, as someone on financial accounts, as someone who is so much not an employee that he argues with Kate. It's wrong. He contributed to the break-up of her marriage, he knows the details of abuse, he knows her problems. He has no morals. I don't care if he is holding her together. Maybe if she imploded she could get help instead of being on tv.
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I'm with you. Kate made her own bed, but without his help, she might have had to turn to her family or professionals to deal with her issues. She's got no one but him (and Milo). He's likely made enough off the kids to be able to retire after this ends.
Jeanne said... 188
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Agree, Jeanne. Steve insinuated himself into Kate and Jon's lives and if he truly is part of their estate, whereby he and his kids stand to benefit in any way, he's got very, very dirty hands.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/10/kate-gosselin-im-scared-jon-might-kill-me/
Same rehash of the police reports, but the writing on this one is scathing.
Sad but true @194, I'm not getting anything when I go to that link. Is there another one?
I was so focused on the sexual abuse allegations I pretty much overlooked that she implied that Jon could hurt her with his firearm.
Not only is that an outrageous accusation, but I doubt it played very well in that part of the country, which respects a homeowner's right to defend himself and his property. For that matter, I'm not sure how that played with many of her red state fans. She may have made her biggest mistake ever with that little stunt.
@Admin I wouldn't be shocked if Kate once again is claiming someone is threatening to kill her.Remember she and Bullyville claimed that Kate haters were threatening to kill her,the kids and some of her crazy fans?Now she's making the same accusation about Jon.Whats bizarre is that Kate didn't do anything about it.I've not herd of any hater getting arrested for attempted murder.Plus i've not herd her tweeting about calling the police or anything like that.
I don't think Kate's views on Jon's gun ownership would remove her red state fans' lips from her ass ;-)
I got a chuckle from Kate calling the cops to run interference when she got to the school, fearing Jon was going to have a showdown at the OK Corral.
He wasn't even there.
But seriously, her implications and accusations are about as wild and horrific at they come.
Drug dealer.
"Suspicious" relationship with Hanna (abuse? sexual?) such that Kate rushes her to a therapist.
Gun violence.
Yet, there's Kate plastering her kids on the cover of People magazine and filming the crap out of them (allegedly).
I was so focused on the sexual abuse allegations I pretty much overlooked that she implied that Jon could hurt her with his firearm.
Not only is that an outrageous accusation, but I doubt it played very well in that part of the country, which respects a homeowner's right to defend himself and his property. For that matter, I'm not sure how that played with many of her red state fans. She may have made her biggest mistake ever with that little stunt.
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She's really going off the deep end. It sounds like it's worst than paranoia. What does it take for the courts to require a psych evaluation on her? Something is very "off" there, and I'm not saying this because I am a non-fan. There must be someone who can recognize that she has mental issues...SERIOUS mental issues that go far beyond her intense need for vengeance.
Jamezvader1194 (#197), and if TFW was really, truly, sincerely so concerned about her children's safety and welfare, why wouldn't she just pull the plug on the show and get those kids out of the spotlight?
#HorribleMomLife
You know what was very glaring to me is how she tried to sort of soften the blow of her accusations (I suppose in case they turned out to be bogus) with lots of cushion words like, I have suspected, I fear SOMETHING could happen with the firearm, I suspect SOMETHING between my daughter and ex.
You know, if you're gonna make claims like that, f-ing come out and say it. Come out and say sexual abuse, come out and say I think he's going to shot me. OWN IT and stop being such a f-ing pansy trying to cover your own ass.
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