All This Is That said... 192 I am trying to figure this out. Someone loses respect for another person because they don't share the same opinion? Therefore, in order for one person to have respect for another, it is necessary/imperative that they have the same ideas, same political party, same agenda? ------------- Absolutely not. I don't want any political discussion here from either side. This has come up many times before, with many posters practically begging for the political discussion to stop. Usually it does for a while, then it starts up again.
I guess all those other people who were supporting the "no political discussion side" have left by now.
The problems I have with political discussion is that people's positions are so entrenched that mud-slinging and justification has replaces any kind of rational discussion. That applies to people on both sides of the political spectrum.
I've scrolled and ignored as best I can, but too much is too much.
'Jon used to have to grab Kate by her wrist to stop her from beating Collin and some of the other kids with a wooden spoon,' the insider said.
The reality star has admitted struggling with her son for a 'long time' and a source says Collin has always been treated differently than the other children, 'being forced to eat and sleep separately.'
Wasn't it suggested that Collin was forced to live in a windowless room in the basement? Ok, I'm going there...perhaps locked in at night? She's been known to lock those kids in their rooms in the past. I swear, she's a beast.
I also read in the article that Jon has no idea where Collin has been sent. How could this be??? WTH.
The trailers I've seen so far show Kate playing to the cameras more than ever. She's trying her damnedest to prove she's an actress, but we can't even buy her as a mother. I guess it's possible that TLC is winding her up to dump her again.
I don't believe she's got any job protection from TLC---she was so desperate to get back on the air, I almost think she would have paid them. The cameras seem to provide her with validation, as in "You may not like me or my choices, but LOOK! I'm still on TV!" What she would do without that, I don't know.
We called it...driving lessons! I really thought maybe, just maybe, there would be objections from the twins on that. How embarrassing on all fronts to have a screaming banshee mother out there publicly. Of course, Mady gets extra lines telling her mother to calm down.
Now is the time for someone who has knowledge of that household to go public. Robert tried and he was 100% correct about Collin. I know it's hard to imagine him away from home, but it's best he get help away from Kate.
The cameras seem to provide her with validation, as in "You may not like me or my choices, but LOOK! I'm still on TV!"
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THIS!
TFW has always given the finger to her naysayers and IMO, thrives on the fact that she's able to do so with TLC's backing and their hefty paychecks. They've enabled her to continue to be nasty and abusive to her kids and to be rewarded for it. She thinks she's invincible and with TLC embracing and exploiting the ugliness and dysfunction in the Gosselin family she's being validated more with each episode they air.
TLC is all about the money and since people tune in to see what TFW will do next, how she'll be nastier than she was the last time they watched, they're happy.
I think the recent press about TFW and Jon/Hannah/Collin will only bring consistent (with the last season) ratings because people will tune in to see how much of TFW's ugliness has made it to the show. And, then they'll tune in the next week because the previews of TFW yelling and screaming will make them curious, just like with a car accident. TLC's sneaky and they're pros. I don't think they'll get new viewers, but the 'regulars' will tune in, especially after hearing the recent news about the family. TFW, without a care in the world about her parenting choices or behavior or how she's perceived, is laughing and smiling all the way to the bank.
Sad but true (#5), yes, TFW has surely shown her desperation to do more episodes. I wonder if deep down she realizes TLC affords her her only opportunity for TV work. When was her last non-TLC appearance on screen? She's had her spate of different gigs over the years (DWTS, CWS, CA, some interviews), but I think her media opportunities narrow with each year. She's talked about wanting to "hit it out of the park" again, and hoping that "lightening" [sic] would strike twice. But perhaps in her heart of hearts (assuming she has one, which may be up for debate), she knows TLC is the only thing that keeps her from going back to bedpans.
Now is the time for someone who has knowledge of that household to go public. Robert tried and he was 100% correct about Collin. ***** Robert's words about Colin are so tender and heart felt, it makes me well up reading them. His emotional passages about the Gosselin kids are warmer than anything you've ever witnessed coming from their mother. When I go back and read Robert's book now, it's even more sad. I now understand Robert's urgency and need to do something, to say something, so that maybe one day, the kids would have someone who could help them, help them.
Sherri said... 7 The cameras seem to provide her with validation, as in "You may not like me or my choices, but LOOK! I'm still on TV!"
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THIS!
TFW has always given the finger to her naysayers and IMO, thrives on the fact that she's able to do so with TLC's backing and their hefty paychecks. ******* Yup! "Hate away" because I'm on tv and it makes me untouchable. It's amazing she still has custody of those kids.
I think her media opportunities narrow with each year. She's talked about wanting to "hit it out of the park" again, and hoping that "lightening" [sic] would strike twice ****** That never happened. Kate's been on borrowed time and her window of opportunity to do anything else besides using her kids as a paycheck, is closed and nailed shut.
Sherri (#7), great comment. Didn't TFW wear a shirt taunting the haters at some race? She revels in being in the spotlight -- for good or bad. When she said, "I breathe for my kids," I think what she really meant was, "I breathe for the ATTENTION I get from having my kids."
TLC has guaranteed eyeballs when they put this shrew on the screen. Huge numbers? Not anymore. But better the devil they know.
I picture TFW someday a shriveled old lady still sitting on that couch on the little mini set in the basement, dust gathering, still talking to a producer and camera crew who left decades ago.
Admin (#13), and beside her, a dusty old craft services table with plates of petrified crackers, grapes and cheese cubes. At which she raises her bony, liver-spotted fist and shouts, "I'm in charge, and that's never gonna change!"
If TLC is airing never before seen footage, then there is an archive of material of Kate being a shrew and abusive; easy pickings for TLC to go nuclear on her. There is nothing left but "Banshee Mom". How desperate she is to stay on TV highlighting the ugliness of her behavior.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 13 I picture TFW someday a shriveled old lady still sitting on that couch on the little mini set in the basement, dust gathering, still talking to a producer and camera crew who left decades ago. November 3, 2016 at 7:50 AM **** Kate and one or two of the kids, going all Grey Gardens.
I picture TFW someday a shriveled old lady still sitting on that couch on the little mini set in the basement, dust gathering, still talking to a producer and camera crew who left decades ago.
I guess all those other people who were supporting the "no political discussion side" have left by now.
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I'm still here, but maybe I'm in the minority. I'm not crazy about mud-slinging, but in the world of politics, it happens. It's the nature of the beast. If people want to speak out, they will do so. On a blog, I can scroll with the best of them.
I do think, though, that sometimes respect and credibility are incorrectly used interchangeably, and it's a matter of semantics. If someone shouts out with an opinion that is so out of the park, and so bizarre that it's laughable, they will, of course, lose credibility. That doesn't mean, however, that one shouldn't respect their right to free speech, does it?
Saw on my news feed this morning that Anna Duggar is going to divorce Josh. Apparently she has finally gotten some outside friends who have shown her how she is being used by the Duggar clan to rehab their image. I wonder how much of the pressure on Anna to stay with Josh came from the TLC money machine?
It gives me hope for the Gosselin brood eventually they will have an authority figure in their life that will help them realize Kate has used them for her benefit since they were born. It is time to be an individual and not simply one of eight trained monkeys.
This reminds me of incidents you read about in the paper where the kid is killed/tortured/severely injured, and then it comes out that CPS has been called multiple times but never had cause to proceed further, it was evaluated out.
And everyone goes nuts, saying how could this happen??!! Well...this is exactly how it happens.
If CPS has been called on you more than once, by multiple unrelated sources, there's a problem.
It's not just where there's smoke there's fire. It's a raging blaze with billowing clouds of black smoke.
Huh? What? Me? I'm not doing anything. Hey! I'm on TEEVEE!!! Look at meeeee!! Hey! How 'bout them puppies? Aren't they the cutest? Never mind that little boy locked in the closet for the last 3 years.
I can see why Robert was so heart-broken over Collin.
I'm not sure what the problem is with the political comments. I haven't seen anyone bashed for their opinions on this election. Of course, I haven't read all of the posts. It seems to me that both candidates have been criticized, but the people who make those comments haven't been bashed for having those opinions. No names have been called, no one treated cruelly or without respect.
There are still plenty of comments about Kate's antics and the upcoming show. You don't want to read or discuss politics here, then you don't read or discuss them. I don't think it's really that difficult.
MikeB said... 20 Saw on my news feed this morning that Anna Duggar is going to divorce Josh. Apparently she has finally gotten some outside friends who have shown her how she is being used by the Duggar clan to rehab their image. I wonder how much of the pressure on Anna to stay with Josh came from the TLC money machine? ******* Wowwwwwww. Color me shocked. I'm betting Ma and Pa Duggar are spitting nails! A divorce? How dare any woman refuse to have some sweating, heaving, doughy man on top of her?
I'm holding onto a lot of skepticism until Anna announces her divorce herself, but I sure do hope that she gets custody and supervised visitation, AND demand an independent evaluation of Josh by a secular professional. As a mother, she owes that to her kids.
I wonder if TLC purposely decided to air Kate plus 8 right after "Outdaughtered" so that people can compare the dynamics and differences between the two shows.
Cute babies, nice parents versus shrew mother competing with her tweens and teenagers. It's almost like TLC is using Kate plus 8 as an example of "what not to do".
Re Anna Duggar - I hope that report is true and that she is going to divorce him. Molesting his sleeping young sisters would be enough to do it for me. I hope she gets out with her children with no interference from Ma and Pa Duggar and obstacles from TLC.
MikeB said... 20 Saw on my news feed this morning that Anna Duggar is going to divorce Josh. Apparently she has finally gotten some outside friends who have shown her how she is being used by the Duggar clan to rehab their image. I wonder how much of the pressure on Anna to stay with Josh came from the TLC money machine? _____
I would love to think this is going to happen, but I just don't see it. The Duggars have too much to lose if she leaves---AND talks (just like Kate does)---and I think they will bring enormous pressure to bear if she looks to be on her way out. Her own parents are not terribly sympathetic, and living with siblings, from whom she has more or less been estranged for the last 6-7 years, is not likely to be a happy choice. Unless she's allowed to leave with significant money, or someone offers her a big sum to talk/write about what's happened to her, I think she's as trapped as she ever was.
It seems to me that both candidates have been criticized, but the people who make those comments haven't been bashed for having those opinions. No names have been called, no one treated cruelly or without respect.
_______________________ Nope. I haven't seen that either. I am reminded of the Point/Counterpoint political spoof..."Jane, you ignorant s**t." None of that here that I can recall!
Of course, the anon resident troll has gotten rather testy and rude, but that seems to be the exception. There's one in every barrel. It's par for the course.
"When Kaley Carling woke up on Oct. 19, she had no idea that it would be the day she and her husband officially adopted four kids in less than 24 hours. She posted her story on Reddit alongside a photo from the moment they became parents of four beautiful children. Kaley and her husband had been fostering two of the girls for over a year and the other two (twins) they adopted privately, but all four adoptions were finalized on this magical day in October. "Our journey to get to this point has been anything but easy; health issues, infertility, failed adoptions, death. Heartbreak. And more heartbreak..."
TLC stinks said... 15 . . . There is nothing left but "Banshee Mom". How desperate she is to stay on TV highlighting the ugliness of her behavior. _____
Her desperation for the limelight was really brought home to me when I saw her in that clown costume on their first episode back from TV exile. For someone who's had who knows how many surgeries to get her looking like Hollywood Barbie, it must have been difficult to swallow that circus clown, instead of sexy ringmaster, was going to be your big welcome-back to TV land. But it's clear she will do anything, no matter how big the toll on her children or how humiliating to herself, to have this lifestyle continue. Unlike 2009, though, when she had some clout due to the extreme high profile of the divorce, she has virtually none at this point, and I think that insecurity is now visible in everything she does. She thinks all the OTT behavior makes her look like Fun Quirky Mommy. But all I see is Desperate Mommy.
Her desperation for the limelight was really brought home to me when I saw her in that clown costume on their first episode back from TV exile. ******** Kate makes herself the center of attention. Heaven forbid she just lets the kids shine. It must be hard to grow up with a mother who can't stand to not cast you in her shadow.
Her desperation for the limelight was really brought home to me when I saw her in that clown costume on their first episode back from TV exile. For someone who's had who knows how many surgeries to get her looking like Hollywood Barbie, it must have been difficult to swallow that circus clown, instead of sexy ringmaster, was going to be your big welcome-back to TV land.
__________________ All I remember from seeing clips of that show was her new girls hanging down to her waist.
Speaking of which, I saw a commercial the other day for a magic bra. Something about it being invisible. I had to laugh.
Margaret Meade @DonutsForCollin 26m26 minutes ago Margaret Meade Retweeted Margaret Meade There is an ACTIVE child abuse investigation happening which could lead 2charges against Kate Gosselin. SHUT DOWN THE SHOW @TLC @WDouglasTV
_____________________ There's an *active* investigation going on right now? Where is this being reported, and what are the sources?
NJAY, voting by mail doesn't make polling places "half" busy. First, a lot of people who vote by mail wouldn't have voted otherwise. ---- Hey, who brought me into this. I'm just lurking, minding my own business. lol
I am SO HAPPY if it is true about Anna dumping Josh! I know Jim Bob and Michelle have to be spitting nails and hammers!
I hope Josh gives her a huge cash settlement because of all of the YEARS she was on the tv show and her part of her pay of being on the show and the children, too.
I bet JB/M are really upset that "outside friends" told her the truth of how Josh and the whole kitten kaboodle took clear advantage of her and the kids when she was on Counting On.
Even Jesus said that there are 2 cases of divorce that is legal with Him. Adultery and Abandonment. Josh did both. She has a Biblical right to divorce Josh. He committed adultery on her and abandoned her and the children for just short of a year.
This is why they don't want the kids to go to college, even though there are good Christian colleges because they don't want them to sit by someone who has green hair. But what about green eyes? lol
Shame. One of the boys that was at a school like college decided he was not going to finish and is going to live at home, get his real estate license and help Daddy do odd jobs around the house.
This is REALLY SAD because I am pro-education and it is sad that all those kids are not allowed to go to college and what is even sadder, money is not the problem. It is their misguided Gothard loving parents. I feel really bad for Jana. She is getting close to 30 years old.
A divorce means things must be dire. I can actually see a Duggar divorce if Anna were persuaded by family, an attorney, or a social worker, that the best way to keep custody of her kids. At least here, CPS gets a whiff that you wouldn't protect your kids from their child molester father, and they'll take them from Mom too.
If there's one thing that she might put before him, it's her kids.
She might even be able to swing some kind of annulment if she can show she was mislead about him. The Christian community seems to be more accepting of that kind of separation.
She might even be able to swing some kind of annulment if she can show she was mislead about him. The Christian community seems to be more accepting of that kind of separation.
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Yes, but wouldn't she then have to one day explain to her kids that she and their father were never actually legally married? I know nothing about annulments.
This is REALLY SAD because I am pro-education and it is sad that all those kids are not allowed to go to college and what is even sadder, money is not the problem. It is their misguided Gothard loving parents. I feel really bad for Jana. She is getting close to 30 years old. ******* This is why there's no divorce there- shunning and lack of ability to support yourself.
She might even be able to swing some kind of annulment if she can show she was mislead about him. The Christian community seems to be more accepting of that kind of separation.
******* Josh most definitely misrepresented himself and I'll bet no one in that family made Anna fully aware of exactly what Josh did to his sisters.
Yes, but wouldn't she then have to one day explain to her kids that she and their father were never actually legally married? I know nothing about annulments.
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I'm not sure that's how I would explain an annulment to children. Either way she's going to have to tell her children something. I was more concerned at the moment with her trying to get out without the entire fundie community spitting on her.
Re Anna Duggar - I hope that report is true and that she is going to divorce him. Molesting his sleeping young sisters would be enough to do it for me. I hope she gets out with her children with no interference from Ma and Pa Duggar and obstacles from TLC.
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It should very much scare her that he molested his own sisters. It means he doesn't discriminate against biology, which means her own children are very much at risk. She seemed like a sweet girl and I have every hope she will put the kids first.
My sweet college friend got an annulment a few years ago. Long, sad story but the gist of it is he lied to her about going to college. He had not. He also was fired from work for seeing prostitutes on company time and said he wanted kids but then would barely sleep with her. That was enough to get an annulment. She's really damaged from it. I saw her in Philly in August and she's not doing well.
I was reading how a person knows if he is talking to a psychopath and smiled at this one point:
8. They say, "um" more often.
Psychopaths are more likely to use filler words and sounds, like "uh" and "um." While many people use such sounds to avoid an awkward silence, researchers suspect psychopaths use them in an effort to appear sane.
Gosh almighty. This whole thing is one big disaster.
"Both Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are reporting new information surrounding the FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation, with sources saying the case will likely lead to an indictment.
New details surfaced Thursday, when Fox News host Bret Baier revealed new information from two separate sources with "intimate knowledge" of the case. Additionally, a new Wall Street Journal report says FBI director James Comey's pursuit of the case is based on recordings of a suspect in a separate corruption case who spoke about the Clinton Foundation's dealings.
The Journal reports that despite views from Department of Justice prosecutors who say the recordings as hearsay, the FBI moved forward believing these recorded conversations gave enough evidence to continue the probe.
While Comey has not released a public statement since he alerted Congress via email of new information surrounding the Clinton Foundation case, Fox is reporting inside information on where the FBI investigation currently stands.
According to Fox News' sources, the white collar crime division of the FBI is looking into accusations of pay-for-play interaction between then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Foundation, which had allegedly occurred for over a year. This operation allegedly favored specific donors to the Foundation's charities -- a claim the Clintons have previously denied.
At this point, one source says the FBI is deeming the Clinton Foundation a "very high priority." Interviews have been repeatedly conducted about the case, and the FBI continues to build "a lot" of evidence. Fox reports that the source went even further to say, "there is an avalanche of new information coming every day."
The classified e-mail investigation is reportedly being run by the National Security division of the FBI. The division is currently sorting through the laptop of former Democratic Congressman Anthony Wiener, and have found e-mails believed to be sent from Hillary Clinton's server."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-claims-evidence-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-impressive/story?id=43282736 ABC News sources, however, indicated those statements — and the Fox News reports they’re based on — are inaccurate and without merit.
One of the problems for Anna Duggar is she may not know any women who have gone through a divorce and survived. Most of us have a woman at church or at work or a family member who can say that part was really tough but I got through it. Not that I want more people divorced but Anna has no role model. I hope she can do it though. Those kids need protection.
I don't know, I just don't get it. What young kids would want a DVD set of Kate's shows for their birthday? What young kids would enjoy seeing a parent shouting, screaming at children in a dysfunctional family? Do kids enjoy this kind of thing? I know Kate has young fans, but wouldn't it be disturbing to watch her tirades and melt-downs?
Nora @NoraSaysNo 44m44 minutes ago @TaylorMcNizzle @Kateplusmy8 @TLC I was wondering the same, my girls would love that for their birthdays!
Localyocul said... 52 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-claims-evidence-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-impressive/story?id=43282736 ABC News sources, however, indicated those statements — and the Fox News reports they’re based on — are inaccurate and without merit. ____________
That's what I love about the news media. You can pick which story you want to believe.
Crawled out from under the veranda for a short period of time. Reading through the day's comments, and I must have missed this earlier. TFMJG actually called the cops because she claims to be afraid Jon's going to come and shoot her with his gun? Ironic, considering SHE's the one who told Jon that if she had a gun she'd shoot him. His heinous crime? He neglected to use a coupon to buy a new showerhead.
Jeanne said... 53 One of the problems for Anna Duggar is she may not know any women who have gone through a divorce and survived. Most of us have a woman at church or at work or a family member who can say that part was really tough but I got through it. Not that I want more people divorced but Anna has no role model. I hope she can do it though. Those kids need protection. ****** That's a really good point. As hard and painful as it is to go through, at least you have the sense that you're going to come out the other end fine when you know other people who've gone through it.
It's true when you're that isolated in a religious sect you probably wouldn't meet other survivors of things like this. In that community everyone is still with their husband no matter what he doesn't and would probably scold you for not doing the same. She needs to meet good strong mentors who survived a similar situation and came out the other side. There are many out there. A support group would be excellent though I don't know if she would go.
Gosh even I now feel like the timing of this FBI investigation is really shitty luck. What if it all checks out just fine?? This could be just enough to sway the election over a completely unfinished investigation. Or, what if they do find something and you want to change your vote? Awful.
This may sound crazy but it almost seems like the election should wait until we have more information. Asking people to vote with just half the story on a very important issue is crazy.
LOL. Considering that half of America typically doesn't vote, I'm pretty sure that the entire other half isn't voting for Trump.
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I'm not sure what the joke is here. Half of American VOTERS are voting for Trump. The other half are voting for Hillary. I really don't care what non-voters are doing. It will come down to less than five or six swing states and a couple hundred thousand votes and that's it.
It's hard to accept, but Trump made it to half. It is what it is.
That said, if he wins, I really think the FBI investigation played a major role in it and I'm not sure that's right. Then again, if the FBI held back on this information, they would be accused of favoring Hillary by withholding information. It was a lose-lose for the FBI no matter when they dropped this bombshell.
I don't know what an investigation like this would do for a sitting president. They might resign rather than put America through such instability. When we're talking about our credibility foreign and domestic, we need to give that serious thought about whether it's wise to have all these unanswered questions out there. I have many pro-Hillary friends, they are all still my friends because I don't take politics personally or think less of people because I disagree with their views, and a couple of them today looked really sick. One actually said she was scared the election was blown. We were joking I would hold her hand through this, and it will all be okay.
I don't know what an investigation like this would do for a sitting president. They might resign rather than put America through such instability.
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Hillary resign? Isn't that like saying Kate would say "no thank you" if TLC offered her a contract to film indefinitely?
Seriously, though, those who support Clinton, vote for her, and then find out that the corruption, lies and scandals are proven to have merit, wouldn't you bang your head once the truth came out? The FBI certainly is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't, but something as crucial as this investigation can't be swept under the rug. All of this should have been uncovered months ago, not a few days before the election.
In the history of our country, has anything like this ever happened prior to an election?
In the history of our country, has anything like this ever happened prior to an election?
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I'm not sure. For me, I just see it as big time karma. This all was bound to catch up sooner or later and how glorious it catches up days before the election.
I've always thought the charity was the biggest fraud of all. And now even that apparently might be part of the investigation.
There are some bloggers saying the president has the power to suspend the election while we sort this out. On the one hand, that seems fair. On the other, a lot of Trump supporters would go NUTS if he tried a stunt like that.
I wanted to ask this question regarding Anna. I thought when the molestation was made public that she claimed she was aware of that, even claiming Josh explained what happened to her parents. It seems on one hand that getting an annulment might be hard if you are divorcing for something you already knew.
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I think you're right about that, she did say something to the effect of it was already discussed ages ago or she knew about it ages ago. Am I mistaken that the families knew each other when they were still kids? I want to say she knew about it because she was actually around then.
But, I'm sure she can come up with some kind of excuse, like she didn't realize the extent of it, it was downplayed to her, she was mislead. I bet she was mislead, too.
Fleecing, Fox News and Wall Street Journal are conservative news outlets. They promote their agenda just like MSNBC promotes a liberal agenda. Most likely Hillary will be impeached, but like I said before, Trump is right there too because the Dems will make sure Trump gets investigated about his business dealings and the lawsuits. Both are seriously flawed and dishonest but it's laughable that people believe Trump is the more honest of the two. He just speaks in plain language unlike Hillary.
In the history of our country, has anything like this ever happened prior to an election? ***** The whole WikiLeaks things has changed the game. Both candidates could be under investigation while president. Trump had a rape trial, I believe, and is being sued for Trump University? Hillary, of course, has had the email scandal and now it seems to be steering towards the Clinton Foundation. It's all surreal.
But, I'm sure she can come up with some kind of excuse, like she didn't realize the extent of it, it was downplayed to her, she was mislead. I bet she was mislead, too. November 3, 2016 at 10:56 PM ****** Not only mislead, but in general, those people treat their kids like mushrooms. Anna might be having several "a-ha" moments if she's finally exposed to the world outside the cult.
That said, if he wins, I really think the FBI investigation played a major role in it and I'm not sure that's right. Then again, if the FBI held back on this information, they would be accused of favoring Hillary by withholding information. It was a lose-lose for the FBI no matter when they dropped this bombshell. ****** I agree it's a lose-lose, but the experts on both sides seem to agree that Comey went outside the boundaries in saying what he did about the Weiner investigation involving Hillary vis-a-vis the email scandal connection. Then again, Bill Clinton was way, way out of bounds plane hopping and having a little tarmac "chat" with Loretta Lynch just before the FBI released it's findings and conclusions. They all stink.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59 Gosh even I now feel like the timing of this FBI investigation is really shitty luck. What if it all checks out just fine?? This could be just enough to sway the election over a completely unfinished investigation. Or, what if they do find something and you want to change your vote? Awful.
This may sound crazy but it almost seems like the election should wait until we have more information. Asking people to vote with just half the story on a very important issue is crazy. ***** I joke around and say that it's about time American had another Catholic President ;-)
What's hard for women like Anna is that they are taught to fear, judge and even condemn the outside world. The Duggars seem to have adopted her as their daughter and sister, and to divorce Josh would be to lose family for her. They have positioned themselves to be Anna's everything. Of course, that way they can control her, too.
Kate makes herself the center of attention. Heaven forbid she just lets the kids shine. It must be hard to grow up with a mother who can't stand to not cast you in her shadow.
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Or, who does so even unintentionally.
This was the problem for the celebrity kids I helped raise. This giant shadow looming over them. Trying to find who YOU are in all that darkness is incredibly difficult, and the struggle was reflected in their ultimate grave problems with substance abuse very early in life. They just wanted to be Jack and Jim, not "the kids of such and such."
Yup! "Hate away" because I'm on tv and it makes me untouchable. It's amazing she still has custody of those kids.
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That is it. She basks in this because she thinks this has somehow given her the upper hand. As long as she keeps hearing "action!" she thinks she has won.
That is it. She basks in this because she thinks this has somehow given her the upper hand. As long as she keeps hearing "action!" she thinks she has won. _____
Because, of course, the absolute pinnacle of anyone's existence must be being on TV. This is the sort of shallow thinking that is so damaging as a role model for those children.
Admin (#74), and the idea of TFW still seeing herself as "winning," when her young son had to be sent away, is sickening to me. Not that she needs to be somber and concerned 24/7, but the recent puppy love fest sure did not seem like it was coming from a household where a troubled child just recently moved away. An even more poignant loss when you remember the boy was part of a "six pack."
Yep, TFW, you're a big winner. Eight new episodes of your tired old storylines, on a network which proudly airs people who have intercourse with their cars. Who wouldn't be jealous?
The Gosselin kids have a rough road ahead of them with their mother.
Some may try to stand up to her as soon as they turn 18, but if they still live at home it won't work. Her house, her rules. As long as they live in her house they will have to do as she wants. They'll have to take their money and run and hope it's enough for them to go to college and live there or have a place of their own. Or move in with Dad!
Some may not stand up to her right away... it may take years. It may not even be until they are older and have families of their own.
The thing is Kate will never admit she exploited them, or didn't care about what the effects of filming them were.
The ones that confront her will have to face her "shock" and "hurt" that they feel that way. She will gaslight them and tell them that she sacrificed everything for them. She did it all for them so they could have everything she never had as a child. That she LIVED FOR THEM! They were her world... she had EIGHT kids to support... on and on and on.
They will have to be very strong to stand up to her. To cut her out of their lives, even if it's what they want.
The problem is it will divide the family. Some of the kids will continue to see Kate, spend holidays with her out of feelings of obligation, or some that actually believe her lies. Then they will be upset that the other kids won't be there for the holidays and blame them for just not making things easy for all of them. Some will give in to keep the peace, or maintain relationships with their siblings.
Choosing to take away your child's grandparent from them because you know they are toxic to have in your lives is not an easy decision. Most of them may not make that decision. Some may just do the holiday thing, but not have regular routine contact with her.
Nothing in those kids' futures is going to be easy. They will feel guilt, and question their sanity at times.
The good thing is that they have each other to confirm their feelings. They won't be alone.
They will also have Jon and other family members who know the truth. There will also be a wealth of information online of all the things Kate was made aware of in her decision to exploit her children and alienate their father and family.
I wonder if TFW is aware of Mrs. Trump's pledge that, if she is the first lady, she will focus on bullying. I remember a couple of years ago K8 said she would like to be a spokeswoman for bullying (although I think she meant anti-bullying).
I can imagine, given her "link" to Trump, she might just try to keep herself in the limelight by putting herself forward to assist the first lady.
I can imagine, given her "link" to Trump, she might just try to keep herself in the limelight by putting herself forward to assist the first lady.
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That would be JUST like Kate. Stay completely out of it until everything is all in place, then pop in and want her perks and pull rank to get it.
She's like that person who promised to help out at the party but sorry, got stuck in traffic. Here I am, how can I help?! they exclaim as they stroll in 5 minutes before it starts.
she knows TLC is the only thing that keeps her from going back to bedpans.
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You do realize that nurses do way more than empty a bedpan? And as a nurse, if I am assisting a post surgical patient void, or running a chemo line, each task that I preform is as carefully thought out as the last. And, just so you know, I haven't emptied a bedpan in years, not because I don't want to but because I have a team of providers that work together to make sure our pts needs are meet quickly and thoroughly.
You do realize that nurses do way more than empty a bedpan? And as a nurse, if I am assisting a post surgical patient void, or running a chemo line, each task that I preform is as carefully thought out as the last. And, just so you know, I haven't emptied a bedpan in years, not because I don't want to but because I have a team of providers that work together to make sure our pts needs are meet quickly and thoroughly.
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I think it's Kate who doesn't "get" the nursing profession, has stayed away from a wonderful, rewarding career she could have been proud of and that could have been arranged to work quite nicely with her family's schedule. Stayed away like the plague.
I am just sitting here thinking how interesting it will be when the twins leave for college and start getting real freedom. I hope they both leave home for school. That will be the real test to see how manipulated they really are. It will also be interesting to see which one's fade away never to be heard from again, which one or one's stay in the industry and which one's stumble through. There are enough people who know about them to shake off their past. Will Collin's issues plague him forever, the boy from the tv show that was sent for psych and behavioral problem's ever reach his full potential, or will Hannah have a nervous breakdown. I am not sure which kid is truly that resilient enough to be fully productive at "life". What do you all think?
Admin (#74), I think that bedpan comment was for me, as I often use that when I talk about TFW not wanting to go back to nursing. For the record, I think nurses rock, and would never, ever disparage that career! But from what I know about nursing, it is a challenging career that takes hard work and dedication, and TFW isn't into either. I think a great nurse is also passionate about people, as well as her/his work, and TFW can't seem to drum that up for anything unless there's a camera in front of her, and a paycheck at the end.
Because, of course, the absolute pinnacle of anyone's existence must be being on TV. This is the sort of shallow thinking that is so damaging as a role model for those children. ***** I think Kate has instilled in the kids, the notion that being on tv was never, is never, a limited gig. There's never enough money, fame and freebies, so you never put a period at the end of the sentence. Filming was supposed to be to help the family financially, and that goal is met. Now, it's for greed and fame.
You do realize that nurses do way more than empty a bedpan? And as a nurse, if I am assisting a post surgical patient void, or running a chemo line, each task that I preform is as carefully thought out as the last. And, just so you know, I haven't emptied a bedpan in years, not because I don't want to but because I have a team of providers that work together to make sure our pts needs are meet quickly and thoroughly.
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I think it's Kate who doesn't "get" the nursing profession, has stayed away from a wonderful, rewarding career she could have been proud of and that could have been arranged to work quite nicely with her family's schedule. Stayed away like the plague.
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You got that right! Avoids it like the plague, now, because it doesn't know how to help her anymore.
She only used her nursing certificate to land a dr. And what is so funny is the nice looking drs. got her number early, word spread like wildfire and even the ugly looking drs. wouldn't have anything to do with her.
But then she got the next best thing, a rich drs. son that she could easily con and manipulate and control. Then the show came along, then bodyguard Steve came along and wow, this is even better than a drs. son.
Steve getting paid 1600 per day, traveling first class on the book signing tours an Jon at home taking care of the kids. Wouldn't have been wonderful if in the beginning Jon could of gotten HARD evidence that she was abusing the babies, wait till she was on a trip with Steve, change all the locks on the doors, the gate code, file for emergency full custody and file for divorce, stop the filming.
Even though she would have the TLC legal team at her disposal, I think if Jon would of come out and said, look she admitted that she could have severely injured the kids and summoned me home and forced me to quit my job so I could protect the children. She needs mental help.
I want to think that it could of made a huge difference.
Nurse T said... 78 she knows TLC is the only thing that keeps her from going back to bedpans.
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You do realize that nurses do way more than empty a bedpan? And as a nurse, if I am assisting a post surgical patient void, or running a chemo line, each task that I preform is as carefully thought out as the last. And, just so you know, I haven't emptied a bedpan in years, not because I don't want to but because I have a team of providers that work together to make sure our pts needs are meet quickly and thoroughly.
Nurse T ***** I understand that as a nurse, you're taking offense, but it's just an expression that means Kate would never lower herself to performing the duties of clinical care. The things you do as a nurse, I don't think Kate could actually cut it. I really don't. She is intellectually lazy, and physically, she is bone lazy. Kate will never go back to nursing because she thinks she's too good for that now.
I think it's Kate who doesn't "get" the nursing profession, has stayed away from a wonderful, rewarding career she could have been proud of and that could have been arranged to work quite nicely with her family's schedule. Stayed away like the plague. **** Bingo. Kate should have been THRILLED to have the means to further her nursing degree and be in a nice position to take a management/administration track a long time ago. Instead, she spends her days fomenting Jon's demise.
I think for sure, Cara will be happy to go to college far away and break free of filming. I could be wrong, but I think she's looking forward to her freedom.
I think a great nurse is also passionate about people, as well as her/his work, and TFW can't seem to drum that up for anything unless there's a camera in front of her, and a paycheck at the end. ****** I think the Gosselins gave back in New Orleans, with cameras, for filming, of course. I believe I read that will be part of the new shows.
I think the Gosselins gave back in New Orleans, with cameras, for filming, of course. I believe I read that will be part of the new shows. _____
I have never viewed these "charitable" give-backs as anything but entirely self-serving. You can tell, the kids typically can't even figure out why they're there. I'd really like to know, too, how much TLC gives as part of these activities.
Tucker's Mom (#88), yeah, I assumed Dr. Drew or some other specialist had cured TFW, who claimed she was "addicted to giving." But she must've relapsed.
One of TFW's all-time tone deaf moments was when she brought a wagonful of her books to those kids at St. Jude's. She dared to compare her bedrest -- at which time she was waited on hand and foot while her parents watched the twins -- to these children who had a life-threatening disease and had probably suffered physical and emotional pain we wouldn't wish on our worst enemy. Some of those kids may not have ever made it home. But she poked and dabbed and cried and said she knew what they were going through.
Another hinky part of that episode was when the young woman, a cancer survivor, was giving TFW a tour, and TFW was not even remotely warm or friendly or even present with her. And that was with cameras rolling. Is there any doubt she's downright miserable to the "mediocre" off screen?
Another hinky part of that episode was when the young woman, a cancer survivor, was giving TFW a tour, and TFW was not even remotely warm or friendly or even present with her. And that was with cameras rolling. Is there any doubt she's downright miserable to the "mediocre" off screen? November 4, 2016 at 8:06 AM ******* Jon was trying to be engaging with their docent, but Kate looked like she couldn't be more bored. Like, "let's get some B-roll and be done with this".
IIRC, didn't she walk ahead of the group and was bored out of her skull?
Remember at a toy store, she stepped on a little boys foot with her stiletto heels and he hollered OUCH! SHE KEPT WALKING and hollered, SORRY! without missing a beat!
Good thing it wasn't my kid!
Witches's Weave Hair Would be Stomped on the floor Don't Care!
From the Daily Mail: "EXCLUSIVE: Woman who alleged she was raped by Donald Trump when she was 13 at a Jeffrey Epstein sex party DROPS the case - casting doubt on the truth of her claim".
From the Daily Mail: "EXCLUSIVE: Woman who alleged she was raped by Donald Trump when she was 13 at a Jeffrey Epstein sex party DROPS the case - casting doubt on the truth of her claim".
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Trump is having the luck of ten lifetimes this week. Now this DOES feel rigged. What the!
Why is Kate obligated to remain in nursing? People often change jobs/careers. It is not a crime.
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Nothing about my post remotely suggested she was "obligated" to remain in nursing. The crime, though, is exploiting her children as her main source of income. I was suggesting an excellent and readily available alternative instead of exploiting her kids. I don't care what all she wants to do or how many career moves she wants as long as it's not exploiting the kids.
Pennsylvania was expected to go to Hillary by a narrow margin, that is up until about 5 hours ago. Now they have it virtually neck and neck, with Trump surging. PA would be a HUGE swing state for Trump to win. Wow, what a nail biter.
I despise this whole election. But I have a question. We have gotten to the point where we don't even believe the news any more. Some are right wing biased, some are left wing biased, etc. A standard response to any news report is "they're lying." My question: Why do we automatically believe WikiLeaks? Why don't we question if they have altered anything?
I have been hospitalized a lot. I have had a lot of good nurses. But we have watched Kate with her kids. She has no compassion or work ethic. She has not kept her skills updated. If she had worked at it, she could have a job at home reviewing electronic charts or clinical data. But I think emptying bedpans is about the only nursing skill she would be successful at. At least the only one I would trust her to do for me.
Pennsylvania was expected to go to Hillary by a narrow margin, that is up until about 5 hours ago. Now they have it virtually neck and neck, with Trump surging. PA would be a HUGE swing state for Trump to win. Wow, what a nail biter.
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The attendance tonight at the Giant Center was a record-breaker for that venue.
Pennsylvania was expected to go to Hillary by a narrow margin, that is up until about 5 hours ago. Now they have it virtually neck and neck, with Trump surging. PA would be a HUGE swing state for Trump to win. Wow, what a nail biter.
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The attendance tonight at the Giant Center was a record-breaker for that venue.
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Head count was 13,000 plus. Who would have thought it?
The attendance tonight at the Giant Center was a record-breaker for that venue.
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I'd really love to be a fly on the wall for all these people suddenly changing their vote to Trump. Was it really, after all this time, the FBI email announcement? It's not the simplest scandal to follow, I don't get the sense the average headline reader is looking that carefully at it, and THAT's the one that turns people? Americans are funny.
They're calling Nevada and Ohio probably for Trump now too. Former battleground states. N.H., which swung Hillary just a few days ago, is now a battleground up for grabs.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 97 Why is Kate obligated to remain in nursing? People often change jobs/careers. It is not a crime.
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Nothing about my post remotely suggested she was "obligated" to remain in nursing. The crime, though, is exploiting her children as her main source of income ***** Kate's career is exploiting her kids. It had NEVER been anything else since she abandoned an excellent, life-long vocation. Reality tv is fleeting, albeit, her lifespan in it has been longer than others. Still, if she thinks it's going to carry her until retirement, she's wrong.
Why do we automatically believe WikiLeaks? Why don't we question if they have altered anything?
******* Because no one, afaik, is coming out and saying, "I NEVER wrote that email". Look at Donna Brazile. The best defense she had was that she was being persecuted as a Christian. Uh, seriously?
That's exactly why I like Wikileaks as opposed to the awful state of media today. They just post things and let you figure out how you feel about it. It's rare someone actually denies the documents they post. They usually just confuse the issue, like they never should have gotten the documents. Okay, but that doesn't make them fake.
There's skeptical, and then there's paranoid. Unless we have some reason to believe Wikileaks alters documents they post, I'm not going to worry about that.
Kate's career is exploiting her kids. It had NEVER been anything else since she abandoned an excellent, life-long vocation.
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Oh, Tucker's. You beat me to it. I was just going to say the same thing, and add that while her career has been exploiting her kids, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a crime in the legal sense of the word, but it does mean that morally it's a crime, and a crying shame. If it's been physical abuse, then yes, it *is* a punishable crime. So much for her career.
Because no one, afaik, is coming out and saying, "I NEVER wrote that email". Look at Donna Brazile. The best defense she had was that she was being persecuted as a Christian. Uh, seriously?
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True. He made it clear from the beginning that he doesn't have a horse in this race. He's not pro-anyone. He just put it out there. It's kind of like Kate and her lawsuit, and copyrighting the journal. As far as I know, she never claimed that she never wrote those things, or was innocent of her actions. She never sued for libel.
Regarding the woman who "dropped" the rape case against Donald Trump - she gave an interview to the Daily Mail (accompanied by her lawyer Lisa Blum) prior to the press conference which was cancelled on Wednesday. In the interview she gave details of her claim against Trump. The Daily Mail article states: "She neither requested nor was she offered any compensation to talk about her claims."
I find that odd because it is well known the Daily Mail pays for 'interesting' claims. It makes me think the press will be keeping an eye on his woman to see if there is any change in her lifestyle after "dropping" her claim against Trump. It smells like "settlement to drop" to me.
Blowing In The Wind said... 110 . . . It's kind of like Kate and her lawsuit, and copyrighting the journal. As far as I know, she never claimed that she never wrote those things, or was innocent of her actions. She never sued for libel. ______
And there's a very good reason for that. She couldn't. Either there were no original copies of the diary in her possession for comparison (which, knowing Kate, is possible, she's extremely careless about some things), OR there was a comparison (this is pretty easy to do) between texts and there were no alterations to the original found. If she had a real case to sue for libel, after all the money she's spent on attorneys "for the safety of my kids" (lol), you can be sure she would have done so. There is no question in my mind that every word Hoffman published as hers was, in fact, hers.
The Chicago Tribune has endorsed Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate, for President because the country "has fallen inescapably into political and policy gridlock".
Jinger Duggar got married in front of 1000 guests. That sure didn't take long, maybe 5 months from courting to engagement to marriage. Must have been those side hugs.
Low info voter-NOT said... 115 Assange has no horse in this race? Oh My God. Read, lady. Read.
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Actually, he said when he initially announced the release of the docs that he wasn't a Clinton supporter, nor a Trump supporter and he wasn't out to get Hillary. He is now saying that Russia is not behind the release of the e-mails and that he feels sorry for Hillary. According to him, he is not pro either one of them, so in that sense he's not taking sides; therefore, no horse in the race (apparently doesn't support either candidate) in the bid for POTUS, not putting his money on either one of them.
"Assange added, "Hillary Clinton is just one person. I actually feel quite sorry for Hillary Clinton as a person, because I see someone who is eaten alive by their ambitions, tormented literally to the point where they become sick — for example faint — as a result of going on, and going with their ambitions. But she represents a whole network of people, and a whole network of relationships with particular states."
A lot of people have ben raising Cain about some of the alarming corruption that has finally been exposed in this election. I don't think it's fair to assume just because you're beating the drum about that you must automatically be supportive of the other side.
Exposing government corruption is in everyone's best interest. In fact I would have expected more outrage from the side where most of the corruption is coming from. They shouldn't want this to be any part of their party.
Jinger Duggar got married in front of 1000 guests. That sure didn't take long, maybe 5 months from courting to engagement to marriage. Must have been those side hugs.
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How many side hugs will they have to give each other until she is with child?
Exposing government corruption is in everyone's best interest. In fact I would have expected more outrage from the side where most of the corruption is coming from. They shouldn't want this to be any part of their party.
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But isn't that what the sheeple/Kate supporters do? They don't want to hear anything negative about her, put their fingers in their ears and go...I can't hear you! Instead of facing things that have been disclosed, they pretend it doesn't exist. Same with corruption in government. Ignore it and it will go away. No pictures. Didn't happen, and isn't happening now.
Kate's copyright lawsuit had the the journal excerpts in it. It listed many pages line by line with the first few words...... ending with the last few words. Matched what Hoffman had in the book page for page and line by line. It was all hers. Thus the reason she COPYRIGHTED it.
Sad but true (#129), maybe TFW looked at People.com and saw the announcement of Jinger Duggar's wedding, and realized in 9 months there might be another cute baby for her to compete with on TLC, and decided it was time for more puppy pics. How mediocre.
as for reading bottom to top, I have a solution. I just leave the tab open. When I return I note the time of the last post and hit refresh. It nearly always pops up right where I left off.
just wondering said... 131 as for reading bottom to top, I have a solution. I just leave the tab open. When I return I note the time of the last post and hit refresh. It nearly always pops up right where I left off.
To read comments in order I subscribe to each post by email. There's an option for it below the Blog's comment box.
I have several different email accounts for different purposes; mostly to keep my main email account free from clutter.
Since I can have as many accounts as I want on my iPhone iOS mail app I just read the comments in order in one email account.
It also allows you to hit "Post a comment" in the email and it will send me directly to the blog's comment box on my iPhone.
It alleviates the scrolling and finding where I left off.
I also receive an email when Admin posts a new post. However, there are usually about 20 comments already posted by the time I get that email notification and subscribe to the new post. So I do have to read the new comments that were made before I subscribed but that's easy because I just read them quickly in order.
I do wish though that Admin would post a final comment on each post when she closes it and creates a new post. Sometimes I check my email and wonder why there are no new comments for a while. Then I get the new post notification.
But I really hate scrolling through the comments to find out where I left off and I hate reading in reverse order so subscribing to posts and comments works best for me.
I do wish though that Admin would post a final comment on each post when she closes it and creates a new post. Sometimes I check my email and wonder why there are no new comments for a while. Then I get the new post notification.
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I think I used to say "new post!" and then closed the comments. I can start doing that again.
Wow. Wouldn't it be ironic and sweet justice if it was 8 years?
“Collin said something to the facility’s staff and it was reported to Children and Youth Services [CYS], which started an official probe,” an insider revealed to Life & Style magazine.
“The police later notified Colin’s dad, Jon [Gosselin, 39], that a child abuse investigation was opened.”
Even crazier, if the allegations are deemed true, Kate would face up to seven years in prison!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 135 I am absolutely HOOKED to The Crown on Netflix. 10 part series about Queen Elizabeth. They made her human. November 6, 2016 at 6:20 AM ****** LOVED Good Girls Revolt. If you loved Mad Men, it's a must-watch. It also have a bit of Vinyl feel about it. Halt + Catch Fire-ah-mazing. Watching S3 of The Fall.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 135 I am absolutely HOOKED to The Crown on Netflix. 10 part series about Queen Elizabeth. They made her human. -------------------
Likewise! I've been watching it this weekend as a change from the election and find myself going to Google to get more information on a wide variety of all things Elizabeth. I don't think it rises to documentary standards, but it feels honest and well-researched. It's easy to forget how young and ill prepared she was as a young Queen and yet she showed such strength and commitment.
Low info voter-NOT said... 115 Assange has no horse in this race? Oh My God. Read, lady. Read.
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lol! I wish I could see more clearly now. Literally. I had some wood chips removed from my left eye (don't ask!), and until the bandage is removed I see only from the right. Not doing too much reading right now.
A corneal abrasion can be pretty darn painful, but a good excuse to treat it with medicinal Jack Daniels spiced rum...in the stomach, not the eye.
Anonymous said... 76 I wonder if TFW is aware of Mrs. Trump's pledge that, if she is the first lady, she will focus on bullying. I remember a couple of years ago K8 said she would like to be a spokeswoman for bullying (although I think she meant anti-bullying). ---------- That's gonna be kind of hard when Melania is thrown out of the country as an illegal immigrant.
What I don't get is how people cannot see that if they're Never Clinton because of corruption that Trump is just as corrupt! The guy hasn't done an ethical, honest thing in his life.
A corneal abrasion can be pretty darn painful, but a good excuse to treat it with medicinal Jack Daniels spiced rum...in the stomach, not the eye.
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Oh, gosh, Blowing. I feel for you. It is painful! I had a tiny grain of sand in my eye and it really hurts. As long as my eye was closed, it wasn't too bad, but when I tried to see out of both eyes, the bright light was brutal in the "sandy" eye. I had the small grain removed by the ophthalmologist, but healing took some time. Hope all will be well soon!
In the meantime, keep drinking. It does ease the pain! ;-) Jack can help cure most anything!
“The police later notified Colin’s dad, Jon [Gosselin, 39], that a child abuse investigation was opened.”
Even crazier, if the allegations are deemed true, Kate would face up to seven years in prison!
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We all know that nothing will come of this. Kate won't do any prison time. She's Teflon and above the law. It would be his word against her word, and I would imagine that proof wouldn't be easy to obtain.
That's gonna be kind of hard when Melania is thrown out of the country as an illegal immigrant.
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She is a United States citizen. I really doubt she will be "thrown out of the country" because her work papers from the mid-90s are called into question. Geez.
Another scare tactic from the Hillary side meant to sway the election. No one's campaign platform remotely involves doing anything at all with immigrants who are here legally, fairly, and waited their turn. What was said, is that illegals may be deported especially those who have committed crimes. Which Obama does a heck of a lot of himself. Unfortunate the lies about this.
I have no idea what "lie" to which you are referring, but complaining about Clinton's lies is pretty amusing coming from a Trump supporter.
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The fact that lies are pointed out doesn't mean one is saying there hasn't been lies from someone else. Why would you assume if I say you are a liar, no one else in the world lies?? That's some ridiculous logic right there. The same could be said for your side of things--pointing out all of Trump's "lies" but refusing to believe any of the lies directly from Hillary.
Can't we all agree there have been gross mischaracterizations from both sides? It's the same nonsense with the treatment of women as a campaign platform. Good Lord, it's a joke when such things are touted as a reason to vote for one's candidate.
Sheepless In Seattle said... 147 That's gonna be kind of hard when Melania is thrown out of the country as an illegal immigrant. ------------------- She is a United States citizen. I really doubt she will be "thrown out of the country" because her work papers from the mid-90s are called into question. Geez. ---------- I'd be happy to give her a pass, even though she broke the law a number of times, but her own husband wouldn't were she not his wife. I don't like hypocrites.
I'd be happy to give her a pass, even though she broke the law a number of times, but her own husband wouldn't were she not his wife. I don't like hypocrites.
____________ I'm confused. In reading your comments, I thought that you were a Hillary supporter.
I'd be happy to give her a pass, even though she broke the law a number of times, but her own husband wouldn't were she not his wife.
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Hundreds of thousands of immigrants have broken the law to get here and many of those broke the law once here, including hurting and killing American citizens. Asking to deport some of the worst offenders is neither unreasonable nor unwarranted. In fact, it's a campaign platform that 50% of voters are behind.
I never saw Trump say anything about nit-picking minor violations from 20 years ago and kicking out people who are already naturalized. Never.
Sherry Baby said... 153 I'd be happy to give her a pass, even though she broke the law a number of times, but her own husband wouldn't were she not his wife. I don't like hypocrites. ____________ I'm confused. In reading your comments, I thought that you were a Hillary supporter. ----- HA! Now that was funny. Nope. I'm a supporter of a write in candidate whom I won't name. But mostly I'm a supporter of people who aren't called Clinton or Trump or Donald or Hilary. (Though each time I've met Bill he was damn charming and whip smart.)I'm also a supporter of playing devils advocate and free speech that won't get you locked up or sued. And I am NEVER a supporter of hypocrites, which makes it nearly impossible to vote even in the best of situations...
Seriously, Kate or even random guessing seems to be a better choice for a candidate than this nonsense. Maybe I'll start a Write in Kate! campaign. ===== I remember when I first heard Trump was running and he had just started getting the momentum going, there were so many CRAZY comments and things said that I have never heard before in an election. It reminded me of the show Brewsters Million.
Richard Pryor's uncle had died and challenged him to spend so many million in a short amount of time without any assets left. It was like 3 million or so. If he could, at the end he would inherit like 30 million. He couldn't tell ANYONE and had to be completely broke. He was trying to figure a way to squander a HUGE amount of money where there would be no assets left. His eye caught a billboard or whatever of candidates running for office, I think for mayor. In the show it was the same scenario with the same dilemma we are having. None of the candidates are any good. He saw this as a brilliant way to blow his money and joined the ballot as "none of the above". He was sure no one would elect a complete stranger. I don't want to give it away incase someone wants to watch it. It's a real funny. John Candy played his best bud.
Anyway, I thought that Trump jumping and being a such a jerkster fell right in line with the movie. I can't help but wonder if, deep down inside where only you and God go, he secretly doesn't want to be pres. but things just got a little out of hand.
I know that's stretching a bit but it's just a thought.
The Life&Style article on Kate's abuse is leaking out, little by little, and if this is true, how awful:
#SaveCollin @HandToForehead @Kateplusmy8 "He [Collin] was forced to eat & sleep separately & had to earn time [to be] with the other family members" Life&Style 11/14/16
Kate Gosselin" Horrific New Details in Child Abuse Investigation!
Kate Gosselin is about a million different kinds of terrible.
It's not new information, sure, but that doesn't make it any less true.
And if you really feel the need for new information about Kate's wickedness, well, be careful what you wish for.
You know that story about how Kate's allegedly being investigated for child abuse?
It all started with her son, Collin -- the one she sent off to a treatment center to deal with his "special needs."
According to an insider, "Collin said something to the facility's staff and it was reported to the Children and Youth Services, which started an official probe."
"The police later notified Collin's dad, Jon, that a child abuse investigation was opened."
When we first heard about the investigation, we thought it was a little odd that Jon's been so quiet about it all.
After all, it seems like Jon's favorite activity is publicly slamming his ex-wife, and good for him.
But now we're learning that the reason Jon hasn't commented on the alleged child abuse investigation might be that he's just too damn sad.
"He worries every single day for his son," a source reveals.
"Jon used to have to grab Kate by her wrist to stop her from beating Collin and some of the other kids with a wooden spoon."
"He often had to stand between Kate and the kids to stop her from hitting them."
And that's not the only new bit of information about the case.
If all these allegations are true and Kate is convicted, she could be looking at up to seven years in prison.
And oh, what we wouldn't give for that TLC special ...
Of course, the idea that Kate could be the subject of a child abuse investigation isn't exactly surprising.
Who could forget those journal entries of hers that were so alarmingly made public?
When Collin was just two years old, Kate wrote that she got "too rough" with him after he refused to sit in a corner.
"I feel so guilty that I treated him like that," she confessed.
"I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy."
Kate's remorse apparently didn't last too long, because a few months later, she lost her damn mind when Collin -- still two years old, mind you -- had the audacity to spill a bag of beans.
"I was instantly so SO angry," she wrote, "that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib till Jon came home!"
"I have never felt that I may seriously injure a child but today was that day!"
Gee, wonder why Collin has some emotional issues?
Couldn't have anything to do with his miserable mother, could it?
Anyway, I thought that Trump jumping and being a such a jerkster fell right in line with the movie. I can't help but wonder if, deep down inside where only you and God go, he secretly doesn't want to be pres. but things just got a little out of hand.
I know that's stretching a bit but it's just a thought.
****** Funny, what came to mind for me was The Thomas Crowne Affair.
But now we're learning that the reason Jon hasn't commented on the alleged child abuse investigation might be that he's just too damn sad.
"He worries every single day for his son," a source reveals. **** Again, scratching my head here. How does a father with parental rights not have first-hand information about his son? The kids was 9 or 10 when he stopped seeing Jon. At some point, you do what you have to do, what you're forced to do, to see your son. Be it with police knocking on Kate's door, or with a therapist.
The police had to go to Jon and tell him that a child abuse investigation had been opened up against TFW.
The police by going to tell Jon about the child abuse investigation, PROVES that if the first day TFW didn't send ALL 8 KIDS down the driveway, he could of called the police and they would of enforced the visitation order.
Don't you know that TFW was madder than a old wet hen rode hard and put up wet when she found out that the police informed Jon of the child abuse investigation?
I hope wherever Colin is he is getting loving care with kind, understanding professionals. It gives me hope that Colin told them of the abuses and they being mandated reporters told CPS and they opened an investigation.
BLOWS MY MIND if he had to earn time to be with his brothers and sisters or even his own mother that they haven't charged her yet for this.
Even as horrific as Joan Crawford was with her adopted kids, I never heard of them having to earn time to be with people.
No one expects Melania to be kicked out of the US even if she violated US immigration law. The kicker is the irony that she's married to Mr. Build A Wall and he would kick out illegal immigrants. And her speech about bullying? Irony at its best. Does the woman live only in her gold Trump Tower bubble? Does she not read his Twitter or listen to his rallies? Not relatable in any sense. I feel sorry for her, in a way, because she appears to be completely dominated by Trump. I recall Trump said the biggest mistake he made was giving ex-wife Ivana a job in Trump organization. He did not like her not paying attention to him.
It's obvious to me Melania was just a stupid hooker that he Pretty Womanized out of the trash heap. Cyber Bullying is the dumbest cause ever. Go back to the drawing board.
Turn off your computer. There, now you're not cyber bullied.
Today's Dancing with The Stars program alert: tonight's theme for dances is Showstoppers and the extra special guest judge is IDINA MENZEL for real! It should be a great show!
Even as horrific as Joan Crawford was with her adopted kids, I never heard of them having to earn time to be with people. --------- Didn't you read her daughter's book? She most certainly did.
Oh my God - Collin had to "earn time" to be with other family members - this is much worse than anything I could have imagined. This woman really needs to be charged for cruelty to at least this vulnerable little boy. I don't see how she can talk her way out of this - there has to be at least seven of the others who would be able to back that up (assuming Collin told professionals of her behavior towards him).
Yesterday Drew Barrymore and her daughters were in NYC to cheer Drew's ex husband on in the marathon. Another woman who loves her kids more than she hates her ex.
Where the hell has Jon been? Navel gazing? ******* Looks like Jon has been working steadily, and he's not been commenting on the news about Colin. I hope that he's being like a duck- nothing happening on the surface, but kicking like hell below the water.
The police by going to tell Jon about the child abuse investigation, PROVES that if the first day TFW didn't send ALL 8 KIDS down the driveway, he could of called the police and they would of enforced the visitation order.
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I think that's a pretty big leap to think their notification means they'd enforce a visitation order. JMO, tho. We'll never know though, since it apparently never happened.
TLC stinks said... 175 Where's the info about Colin having to "earn" time with the family? WTH! _______ The Life&Style article, November 14 edition of the printed magazine. Details being released slowly, as InTouch does it.
Having to earn time to be with his brothers and sisters.
Working like a fine farm hand with the chickens.
Verbally abusing him. (Hannah's hair, Colin's Gift). She has established a pattern.
What did she do, go to school or work in nursing with the people that work in CPS? Something is not right. Does Colin not have the right to grow up not being abused by his mother?
No, I didn't get a chance to read Christine's book. I saw the movie a couple of times. I thought the girl that played Christine (when she was older) was very good.
I felt so bad for her and her brother Christopher. Crawford tied that poor boy to the bed at night.
Which one of Crawford's husbands gave Christine money to help her out because her mother wasn't when she was a struggling actress? The Pepsi guy?
What was so awful is when Christine finally got a part on a soap opera, she got a bad cold or flu and Crawford got to play her part. The scene of Crawford with the hideous older face, makeup, fake wig, with scarf sitting at a kitchen table talking to a girl barely 20 and Crawford was playing a 20 year old was horrible.
Did TFW get much response for her Saturday night Nanuq laundry post? She isn't exactly knocking herself trying to drum up attention for the new episodes, is she?
What did she do, go to school or work in nursing with the people that work in CPS? Something is not right. Does Colin not have the right to grow up not being abused by his mother?
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I suggested this when the news first came out, and it's pure speculation. But it's entirely possible Collin was PLACED in this facility, against her will, and is a ward of CPS. She can act all she wants like she supports it and it was a heartrending decision, but that doesn't prove that this wasn't all CPS and a judge deciding he shouldn't be in her care and needed treatment, whether she agreed.
I suggested this when the news first came out, and it's pure speculation. But it's entirely possible Collin was PLACED in this facility, against her will, and is a ward of CPS. She can act all she wants like she supports it and it was a heartrending decision, but that doesn't prove that this wasn't all CPS and a judge deciding he shouldn't be in her care and needed treatment, whether she agreed. ****** Well, Kate hd no problem telling people that 2 kids were pulled out of school when in fact, they were kicked out. She made it sound like she had a choice, when she had none. I just don't know how she could hide it if Colin was taken out of the home instead of her placing him. That's big time. Not to mention continue filming like there's no tomorrow.
Someone commented here that she never heard anything vile or offensive from Hillary. I just finished reading, "The First Family Detail: Secret Service Agents Reveal the Hidden Lives of the Presidents." Good read. Apparently she has quite the mouth on her and drops the F-bomb whenever and wherever she feels like it, and her rudeness to the staff and others have been confirmed by many.
Apparently she wore the pants (suits) in that family!
Over In TFW's County said... 184 Someone commented here that she never heard anything vile or offensive from Hillary. I just finished reading, "The First Family Detail: Secret Service Agents Reveal the Hidden Lives of the Presidents." Good read. Apparently she has quite the mouth on her and drops the F-bomb whenever and wherever she feels like it, and her rudeness to the staff and others have been confirmed by many.
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Kind of like Nixon, VP Cheney, LBJ, many others. If she were a man, I doubt this would even be discussed.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 179 Did TFW get much response for her Saturday night Nanuq laundry post? She isn't exactly knocking herself trying to drum up attention for the new episodes, is she? _______
24 comments in 48 hours. Not counting the ones she deleted. And since Milo claims to be on vacation, I imagine that's going keep the number down by maybe 30-40%.
Re whether Kate has told the truth regarding Collin's departure from his home, I would say the chances are near 100% that we are nowhere near the truth of the matter. She learned from the school expulsion back in 2010---this time, she got her version out first. And except for Jon (who may or may not know the facts), everyone else involved will be sworn by their jobs to confidentiality. I would guess even her other kids don't know the whole story; and what they don't know, they can't spill, right?
@Sad but true Not sure if this is true but one of the Kate critics on twitter is claiming that the photo that Milo uploaded on IG,claiming to be on vacation is a stock photo.Im not sure if anyone can confirm this.
Sad but true (#186), thanks for answering about the Nanuq response.
If it's true C was taken away, could this whole puppy thing have been just a giant distraction for the other kids? A way of keeping them on Team Mommy? She'd made it abundantly clear she was never a dog person, and suddenly she was raising 2 new puppies, and shouting her love from the rooftops. There is always a method to her madness. Always.
@Sad but true Not sure if this is true but one of the Kate critics on twitter is claiming that the photo that Milo uploaded on IG,claiming to be on vacation is a stock photo.Im not sure if anyone can confirm this.
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Is it a photo of Kate on vacation, or Milo on vacation? Or the two of them walking together into the setting sun? If it's just Milo, who cares if it's a stock photo? She's done this before...nothing new there.
I just don't know how she could hide it if Colin was taken out of the home instead of her placing him. That's big time.
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Kate is someone who would think nothing of it. I think she also thinks, better to get ahead of the story and spin it the way I want to before rumors fly. She has a basic understanding of PR and spin.
She didn't say CPS and the courts were involved, but she didn't deny it either. I always thought she would lay down and die before breaking up the six pack no matter how much one might need it. Breaking them up willingly doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
She has a basic understanding of PR and spin. ******* Now there's an understatement! Kate is very savvy when it comes to PR (mostly using her kids, but...)
Wouldn't they take the other kids away if they thought Collin was being abused?
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No, not necessarily at all. I've had many cases where only one or some of the kids are detained while the others remain home.
There are often scapegoat situations where a parent is having a problem with just one or two children and is abusing them or neglecting them, but the other children report no abuse or not to the same degree. (On another note, this is where conflicts develop and I can't represent all of the kids)
It's actually quite common for a marginal parent to have problems coping with a child with special needs, or a teenager or other difficult child, but has no problem raising other children who don't have those issues.
It's supposed to be a child by child basis. You don't HAVE to detain all the children just because one is having issues.
@Over In TFW's County Does she?I know she got caught uploading an old photo pretending like its new but i've not seen anyone confirm the photos of a certain landscape and pretending she's there when it was stocked.
@Over In TFW's County Does she?I know she got caught uploading an old photo pretending like its new but i've not seen anyone confirm the photos of a certain landscape and pretending she's there when it was stocked.
_____________ Milo got caught using a stock photo of a bird. I'm not sure why it matters if she's using a fake vacation photo. We don't even know if she's a 'real' person with a family, or catfishing from a facility.
🐢 @juliannaa18_ 12m12 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 Kate!!! I'm a huge fan & going to be in your neck of the woods this weekend...help a girl out!! Traveling from Upstate NY!
LOL!! What does she want from Kate? Directions? Tourist places to visit? Burgers on Deckster?
But wouldn't Jon have been informed about where C is if he was taken away? Then again, I would have thought Jon would have the legal right to be informed where he is if he were sent away too.
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Monkey wrench, what if the crook sold the wings to be able to pay off the whistleblowers?
Uh oh.
All This Is That said... 192
I am trying to figure this out. Someone loses respect for another person because they don't share the same opinion? Therefore, in order for one person to have respect for another, it is necessary/imperative that they have the same ideas, same political party, same agenda?
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Absolutely not. I don't want any political discussion here from either side. This has come up many times before, with many posters practically begging for the political discussion to stop. Usually it does for a while, then it starts up again.
I guess all those other people who were supporting the "no political discussion side" have left by now.
The problems I have with political discussion is that people's positions are so entrenched that mud-slinging and justification has replaces any kind of rational discussion. That applies to people on both sides of the political spectrum.
I've scrolled and ignored as best I can, but too much is too much.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 198
Baw! Oh that's GREAT.
Monkey wrench, what if the crook sold the wings to be able to pay off the whistleblowers?
Uh oh
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Admin, wouldn't that be a big Roh Roh? lol
'Jon used to have to grab Kate by her wrist to stop her from beating Collin and some of the other kids with a wooden spoon,' the insider said.
The reality star has admitted struggling with her son for a 'long time' and a source says Collin has always been treated differently than the other children, 'being forced to eat and sleep separately.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3897640/Kate-Gosselin-investigated-abusing-son-Collin-sent-treatment-facility-special-needs.html
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Wasn't it suggested that Collin was forced to live in a windowless room in the basement? Ok, I'm going there...perhaps locked in at night? She's been known to lock those kids in their rooms in the past. I swear, she's a beast.
I also read in the article that Jon has no idea where Collin has been sent. How could this be??? WTH.
The trailers I've seen so far show Kate playing to the cameras more than ever. She's trying her damnedest to prove she's an actress, but we can't even buy her as a mother. I guess it's possible that TLC is winding her up to dump her again.
I don't believe she's got any job protection from TLC---she was so desperate to get back on the air, I almost think she would have paid them. The cameras seem to provide her with validation, as in "You may not like me or my choices, but LOOK! I'm still on TV!" What she would do without that, I don't know.
We called it...driving lessons! I really thought maybe, just maybe, there would be objections from the twins on that. How embarrassing on all fronts to have a screaming banshee mother out there publicly. Of course, Mady gets extra lines telling her mother to calm down.
Now is the time for someone who has knowledge of that household to go public. Robert tried and he was 100% correct about Collin. I know it's hard to imagine him away from home, but it's best he get help away from Kate.
The cameras seem to provide her with validation, as in "You may not like me or my choices, but LOOK! I'm still on TV!"
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THIS!
TFW has always given the finger to her naysayers and IMO, thrives on the fact that she's able to do so with TLC's backing and their hefty paychecks. They've enabled her to continue to be nasty and abusive to her kids and to be rewarded for it. She thinks she's invincible and with TLC embracing and exploiting the ugliness and dysfunction in the Gosselin family she's being validated more with each episode they air.
TLC is all about the money and since people tune in to see what TFW will do next, how she'll be nastier than she was the last time they watched, they're happy.
I think the recent press about TFW and Jon/Hannah/Collin will only bring consistent (with the last season) ratings because people will tune in to see how much of TFW's ugliness has made it to the show. And, then they'll tune in the next week because the previews of TFW yelling and screaming will make them curious, just like with a car accident. TLC's sneaky and they're pros. I don't think they'll get new viewers, but the 'regulars' will tune in, especially after hearing the recent news about the family. TFW, without a care in the world about her parenting choices or behavior or how she's perceived, is laughing and smiling all the way to the bank.
Sad but true (#5), yes, TFW has surely shown her desperation to do more episodes. I wonder if deep down she realizes TLC affords her her only opportunity for TV work. When was her last non-TLC appearance on screen? She's had her spate of different gigs over the years (DWTS, CWS, CA, some interviews), but
I think her media opportunities narrow with each year. She's talked about wanting to "hit it out of the park" again, and hoping that "lightening" [sic] would strike twice. But perhaps in her heart of hearts (assuming she has one, which may be up for debate), she knows TLC is the only thing that keeps her from going back to bedpans.
Now is the time for someone who has knowledge of that household to go public. Robert tried and he was 100% correct about Collin.
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Robert's words about Colin are so tender and heart felt, it makes me well up reading them. His emotional passages about the Gosselin kids are warmer than anything you've ever witnessed coming from their mother.
When I go back and read Robert's book now, it's even more sad. I now understand Robert's urgency and need to do something, to say something, so that maybe one day, the kids would have someone who could help them, help them.
Sherri said... 7
The cameras seem to provide her with validation, as in "You may not like me or my choices, but LOOK! I'm still on TV!"
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THIS!
TFW has always given the finger to her naysayers and IMO, thrives on the fact that she's able to do so with TLC's backing and their hefty paychecks.
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Yup! "Hate away" because I'm on tv and it makes me untouchable. It's amazing she still has custody of those kids.
I think her media opportunities narrow with each year. She's talked about wanting to "hit it out of the park" again, and hoping that "lightening" [sic] would strike twice
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That never happened. Kate's been on borrowed time and her window of opportunity to do anything else besides using her kids as a paycheck, is closed and nailed shut.
Sherri (#7), great comment. Didn't TFW wear a shirt taunting the haters at some race? She revels in being in the spotlight -- for good or bad. When she said, "I breathe for my kids," I think what she really meant was, "I breathe for the ATTENTION I get from having my kids."
TLC has guaranteed eyeballs when they put this shrew on the screen. Huge numbers? Not anymore. But better the devil they know.
I picture TFW someday a shriveled old lady still sitting on that couch on the little mini set in the basement, dust gathering, still talking to a producer and camera crew who left decades ago.
Admin (#13), and beside her, a dusty old craft services table with plates of petrified crackers, grapes and cheese cubes. At which she raises her bony, liver-spotted fist and shouts, "I'm in charge, and that's never gonna change!"
If TLC is airing never before seen footage, then there is an archive of material of Kate being a shrew and abusive; easy pickings for TLC to go nuclear on her. There is nothing left but "Banshee Mom". How desperate she is to stay on TV highlighting the ugliness of her behavior.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 13
I picture TFW someday a shriveled old lady still sitting on that couch on the little mini set in the basement, dust gathering, still talking to a producer and camera crew who left decades ago.
November 3, 2016 at 7:50 AM
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Kate and one or two of the kids, going all Grey Gardens.
I picture TFW someday a shriveled old lady still sitting on that couch on the little mini set in the basement, dust gathering, still talking to a producer and camera crew who left decades ago.
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Is she still wildly flapping her hands?
Entirely convinced now Collin will write the first book.
I guess all those other people who were supporting the "no political discussion side" have left by now.
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I'm still here, but maybe I'm in the minority. I'm not crazy about mud-slinging, but in the world of politics, it happens. It's the nature of the beast. If people want to speak out, they will do so. On a blog, I can scroll with the best of them.
I do think, though, that sometimes respect and credibility are incorrectly used interchangeably, and it's a matter of semantics. If someone shouts out with an opinion that is so out of the park, and so bizarre that it's laughable, they will, of course, lose credibility. That doesn't mean, however, that one shouldn't respect their right to free speech, does it?
Saw on my news feed this morning that Anna Duggar is going to divorce Josh. Apparently she has finally gotten some outside friends who have shown her how she is being used by the Duggar clan to rehab their image. I wonder how much of the pressure on Anna to stay with Josh came from the TLC money machine?
It gives me hope for the Gosselin brood eventually they will have an authority figure in their life that will help them realize Kate has used them for her benefit since they were born. It is time to be an individual and not simply one of eight trained monkeys.
This reminds me of incidents you read about in the paper where the kid is killed/tortured/severely injured, and then it comes out that CPS has been called multiple times but never had cause to proceed further, it was evaluated out.
And everyone goes nuts, saying how could this happen??!! Well...this is exactly how it happens.
If CPS has been called on you more than once, by multiple unrelated sources, there's a problem.
It's not just where there's smoke there's fire. It's a raging blaze with billowing clouds of black smoke.
Huh? What? Me? I'm not doing anything. Hey! I'm on TEEVEE!!! Look at meeeee!! Hey! How 'bout them puppies? Aren't they the cutest? Never mind that little boy locked in the closet for the last 3 years.
I can see why Robert was so heart-broken over Collin.
I'm not sure what the problem is with the political comments. I haven't seen anyone bashed for their opinions on this election. Of course, I haven't read all of the posts. It seems to me that both candidates have been criticized, but the people who make those comments haven't been bashed for having those opinions. No names have been called, no one treated cruelly or without respect.
There are still plenty of comments about Kate's antics and the upcoming show. You don't want to read or discuss politics here, then you don't read or discuss them. I don't think it's really that difficult.
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Saw on my news feed this morning that Anna Duggar is going to divorce Josh. Apparently she has finally gotten some outside friends who have shown her how she is being used by the Duggar clan to rehab their image. I wonder how much of the pressure on Anna to stay with Josh came from the TLC money machine?
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Wowwwwwww. Color me shocked.
I'm betting Ma and Pa Duggar are spitting nails! A divorce? How dare any woman refuse to have some sweating, heaving, doughy man on top of her?
I'm holding onto a lot of skepticism until Anna announces her divorce herself, but I sure do hope that she gets custody and supervised visitation, AND demand an independent evaluation of Josh by a secular professional.
As a mother, she owes that to her kids.
I wonder if TLC purposely decided to air Kate plus 8 right after "Outdaughtered" so that people can compare the dynamics and differences between the two shows.
Cute babies, nice parents versus shrew mother competing with her tweens and teenagers. It's almost like TLC is using Kate plus 8 as an example of "what not to do".
Re Anna Duggar - I hope that report is true and that she is going to divorce him. Molesting his sleeping young sisters would be enough to do it for me. I hope she gets out with her children with no interference from Ma and Pa Duggar and obstacles from TLC.
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MikeB said... 20
Saw on my news feed this morning that Anna Duggar is going to divorce Josh. Apparently she has finally gotten some outside friends who have shown her how she is being used by the Duggar clan to rehab their image. I wonder how much of the pressure on Anna to stay with Josh came from the TLC money machine?
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I would love to think this is going to happen, but I just don't see it. The Duggars have too much to lose if she leaves---AND talks (just like Kate does)---and I think they will bring enormous pressure to bear if she looks to be on her way out. Her own parents are not terribly sympathetic, and living with siblings, from whom she has more or less been estranged for the last 6-7 years, is not likely to be a happy choice. Unless she's allowed to leave with significant money, or someone offers her a big sum to talk/write about what's happened to her, I think she's as trapped as she ever was.
It seems to me that both candidates have been criticized, but the people who make those comments haven't been bashed for having those opinions. No names have been called, no one treated cruelly or without respect.
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Nope. I haven't seen that either. I am reminded of the Point/Counterpoint political spoof..."Jane, you ignorant s**t." None of that here that I can recall!
Of course, the anon resident troll has gotten rather testy and rude, but that seems to be the exception. There's one in every barrel. It's par for the course.
Oh, gosh. Don't let TLC find out about this...
"When Kaley Carling woke up on Oct. 19, she had no idea that it would be the day she and her husband officially adopted four kids in less than 24 hours. She posted her story on Reddit alongside a photo from the moment they became parents of four beautiful children. Kaley and her husband had been fostering two of the girls for over a year and the other two (twins) they adopted privately, but all four adoptions were finalized on this magical day in October. "Our journey to get to this point has been anything but easy; health issues, infertility, failed adoptions, death. Heartbreak. And more heartbreak..."
Seems like some people have trouble being accountable:
http://www.local8now.com/content/news/Kim-Davis-asks-judge-to-waive-legal-fees-399752091.html
TLC stinks said... 15
. . . There is nothing left but "Banshee Mom". How desperate she is to stay on TV highlighting the ugliness of her behavior.
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Her desperation for the limelight was really brought home to me when I saw her in that clown costume on their first episode back from TV exile. For someone who's had who knows how many surgeries to get her looking like Hollywood Barbie, it must have been difficult to swallow that circus clown, instead of sexy ringmaster, was going to be your big welcome-back to TV land. But it's clear she will do anything, no matter how big the toll on her children or how humiliating to herself, to have this lifestyle continue. Unlike 2009, though, when she had some clout due to the extreme high profile of the divorce, she has virtually none at this point, and I think that insecurity is now visible in everything she does. She thinks all the OTT behavior makes her look like Fun Quirky Mommy. But all I see is Desperate Mommy.
KIAT (#25), hey, there's a new series title idea: "Kate Plus 7 -- A Cautionary Tale."
Or maybe "Kate Plus 7 - Busbys Beware."
Her desperation for the limelight was really brought home to me when I saw her in that clown costume on their first episode back from TV exile.
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Kate makes herself the center of attention. Heaven forbid she just lets the kids shine. It must be hard to grow up with a mother who can't stand to not cast you in her shadow.
Her desperation for the limelight was really brought home to me when I saw her in that clown costume on their first episode back from TV exile. For someone who's had who knows how many surgeries to get her looking like Hollywood Barbie, it must have been difficult to swallow that circus clown, instead of sexy ringmaster, was going to be your big welcome-back to TV land.
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All I remember from seeing clips of that show was her new girls hanging down to her waist.
Speaking of which, I saw a commercial the other day for a magic bra. Something about it being invisible. I had to laugh.
I'm betting Ma and Pa Duggar are spitting nails! A divorce? How dare any woman refuse to have some sweating, heaving, doughy man on top of her?
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Maybe she's the one on top. On second thought, aren't they missionaries?
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There's an *active* investigation going on right now? Where is this being reported, and what are the sources?
NJAY, voting by mail doesn't make polling places "half" busy. First, a lot of people who vote by mail wouldn't have voted otherwise.
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Hey, who brought me into this. I'm just lurking, minding my own business. lol
Maybe she's the one on top. On second thought, aren't they missionaries?
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Blech!
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I am SO HAPPY if it is true about Anna dumping Josh! I know Jim Bob and Michelle have to be spitting nails and hammers!
I hope Josh gives her a huge cash settlement because of all of the YEARS she was on the tv show and her part of her pay of being on the show and the children, too.
I bet JB/M are really upset that "outside friends" told her the truth of how Josh and the whole kitten kaboodle took clear advantage of her and the kids when she was on Counting On.
Even Jesus said that there are 2 cases of divorce that is legal with Him. Adultery and Abandonment.
Josh did both. She has a Biblical right to divorce Josh. He committed adultery on her and abandoned her and the children for just short of a year.
This is why they don't want the kids to go to college, even though there are good Christian colleges because they don't want them to sit by someone who has green hair. But what about green eyes? lol
Shame. One of the boys that was at a school like college decided he was not going to finish and is going to live at home, get his real estate license and help Daddy do odd jobs around the house.
This is REALLY SAD because I am pro-education and it is sad that all those kids are not allowed to go to college and what is even sadder, money is not the problem. It is their misguided Gothard loving parents. I feel really bad for Jana. She is getting close to 30 years old.
A divorce means things must be dire. I can actually see a Duggar divorce if Anna were persuaded by family, an attorney, or a social worker, that the best way to keep custody of her kids. At least here, CPS gets a whiff that you wouldn't protect your kids from their child molester father, and they'll take them from Mom too.
If there's one thing that she might put before him, it's her kids.
She might even be able to swing some kind of annulment if she can show she was mislead about him. The Christian community seems to be more accepting of that kind of separation.
She might even be able to swing some kind of annulment if she can show she was mislead about him. The Christian community seems to be more accepting of that kind of separation.
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Yes, but wouldn't she then have to one day explain to her kids that she and their father were never actually legally married? I know nothing about annulments.
Hey, who brought me into this. I'm just lurking, minding my own business. lol
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As always? lol!!
This is REALLY SAD because I am pro-education and it is sad that all those kids are not allowed to go to college and what is even sadder, money is not the problem. It is their misguided Gothard loving parents. I feel really bad for Jana. She is getting close to 30 years old.
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This is why there's no divorce there- shunning and lack of ability to support yourself.
She might even be able to swing some kind of annulment if she can show she was mislead about him. The Christian community seems to be more accepting of that kind of separation.
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Josh most definitely misrepresented himself and I'll bet no one in that family made Anna fully aware of exactly what Josh did to his sisters.
Yes, but wouldn't she then have to one day explain to her kids that she and their father were never actually legally married? I know nothing about annulments.
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I'm not sure that's how I would explain an annulment to children. Either way she's going to have to tell her children something. I was more concerned at the moment with her trying to get out without the entire fundie community spitting on her.
Re Anna Duggar - I hope that report is true and that she is going to divorce him. Molesting his sleeping young sisters would be enough to do it for me. I hope she gets out with her children with no interference from Ma and Pa Duggar and obstacles from TLC.
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It should very much scare her that he molested his own sisters. It means he doesn't discriminate against biology, which means her own children are very much at risk. She seemed like a sweet girl and I have every hope she will put the kids first.
This is why there's no divorce there- shunning and lack of ability to support yourself.
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AND not being out in the world and exposed to other ideas, including ideas about relationships.
That kind of real world education is found in college and just out and about in general.
My sweet college friend got an annulment a few years ago. Long, sad story but the gist of it is he lied to her about going to college. He had not. He also was fired from work for seeing prostitutes on company time and said he wanted kids but then would barely sleep with her. That was enough to get an annulment. She's really damaged from it. I saw her in Philly in August and she's not doing well.
I was reading how a person knows if he is talking to a psychopath and smiled at this one point:
8. They say, "um" more often.
Psychopaths are more likely to use filler words and sounds, like "uh" and "um." While many people use such sounds to avoid an awkward silence, researchers suspect psychopaths use them in an effort to appear sane.
Well, um...
Gosh almighty. This whole thing is one big disaster.
"Both Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are reporting new information surrounding the FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation, with sources saying the case will likely lead to an indictment.
New details surfaced Thursday, when Fox News host Bret Baier revealed new information from two separate sources with "intimate knowledge" of the case. Additionally, a new Wall Street Journal report says FBI director James Comey's pursuit of the case is based on recordings of a suspect in a separate corruption case who spoke about the Clinton Foundation's dealings.
The Journal reports that despite views from Department of Justice prosecutors who say the recordings as hearsay, the FBI moved forward believing these recorded conversations gave enough evidence to continue the probe.
While Comey has not released a public statement since he alerted Congress via email of new information surrounding the Clinton Foundation case, Fox is reporting inside information on where the FBI investigation currently stands.
According to Fox News' sources, the white collar crime division of the FBI is looking into accusations of pay-for-play interaction between then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Foundation, which had allegedly occurred for over a year. This operation allegedly favored specific donors to the Foundation's charities -- a claim the Clintons have previously denied.
At this point, one source says the FBI is deeming the Clinton Foundation a "very high priority." Interviews have been repeatedly conducted about the case, and the FBI continues to build "a lot" of evidence. Fox reports that the source went even further to say, "there is an avalanche of new information coming every day."
The classified e-mail investigation is reportedly being run by the National Security division of the FBI. The division is currently sorting through the laptop of former Democratic Congressman Anthony Wiener, and have found e-mails believed to be sent from Hillary Clinton's server."
Maybe she's the one on top. On second thought, aren't they missionaries?
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I wouldn't want to be in the same room with him, much less share a bed. The idea makes my skin crawl.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-claims-evidence-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-impressive/story?id=43282736
ABC News sources, however, indicated those statements — and the Fox News reports they’re based on — are inaccurate and without merit.
One of the problems for Anna Duggar is she may not know any women who have gone through a divorce and survived. Most of us have a woman at church or at work or a family member who can say that part was really tough but I got through it. Not that I want more people divorced but Anna has no role model. I hope she can do it though. Those kids need protection.
I don't know, I just don't get it. What young kids would want a DVD set of Kate's shows for their birthday? What young kids would enjoy seeing a parent shouting, screaming at children in a dysfunctional family? Do kids enjoy this kind of thing? I know Kate has young fans, but wouldn't it be disturbing to watch her tirades and melt-downs?
Nora @NoraSaysNo 44m44 minutes ago
@TaylorMcNizzle @Kateplusmy8 @TLC I was wondering the same, my girls would love that for their birthdays!
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-claims-evidence-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-impressive/story?id=43282736
ABC News sources, however, indicated those statements — and the Fox News reports they’re based on — are inaccurate and without merit.
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That's what I love about the news media. You can pick which story you want to believe.
Crawled out from under the veranda for a short period of time. Reading through the day's comments, and I must have missed this earlier. TFMJG actually called the cops because she claims to be afraid Jon's going to come and shoot her with his gun? Ironic, considering SHE's the one who told Jon that if she had a gun she'd shoot him. His heinous crime? He neglected to use a coupon to buy a new showerhead.
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One of the problems for Anna Duggar is she may not know any women who have gone through a divorce and survived. Most of us have a woman at church or at work or a family member who can say that part was really tough but I got through it. Not that I want more people divorced but Anna has no role model. I hope she can do it though. Those kids need protection.
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That's a really good point. As hard and painful as it is to go through, at least you have the sense that you're going to come out the other end fine when you know other people who've gone through it.
It's true when you're that isolated in a religious sect you probably wouldn't meet other survivors of things like this. In that community everyone is still with their husband no matter what he doesn't and would probably scold you for not doing the same. She needs to meet good strong mentors who survived a similar situation and came out the other side. There are many out there. A support group would be excellent though I don't know if she would go.
Gosh even I now feel like the timing of this FBI investigation is really shitty luck. What if it all checks out just fine?? This could be just enough to sway the election over a completely unfinished investigation. Or, what if they do find something and you want to change your vote? Awful.
This may sound crazy but it almost seems like the election should wait until we have more information. Asking people to vote with just half the story on a very important issue is crazy.
Someone on Twitter commented that Kate is being actively investigated right now. Is this true, and if so, from where did it come?
LOL. Considering that half of America typically doesn't vote, I'm pretty sure that the entire other half isn't voting for Trump.
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I'm not sure what the joke is here. Half of American VOTERS are voting for Trump. The other half are voting for Hillary. I really don't care what non-voters are doing. It will come down to less than five or six swing states and a couple hundred thousand votes and that's it.
It's hard to accept, but Trump made it to half. It is what it is.
That said, if he wins, I really think the FBI investigation played a major role in it and I'm not sure that's right. Then again, if the FBI held back on this information, they would be accused of favoring Hillary by withholding information. It was a lose-lose for the FBI no matter when they dropped this bombshell.
I don't know what an investigation like this would do for a sitting president. They might resign rather than put America through such instability. When we're talking about our credibility foreign and domestic, we need to give that serious thought about whether it's wise to have all these unanswered questions out there. I have many pro-Hillary friends, they are all still my friends because I don't take politics personally or think less of people because I disagree with their views, and a couple of them today looked really sick. One actually said she was scared the election was blown. We were joking I would hold her hand through this, and it will all be okay.
I don't know what an investigation like this would do for a sitting president. They might resign rather than put America through such instability.
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Hillary resign? Isn't that like saying Kate would say "no thank you" if TLC offered her a contract to film indefinitely?
Seriously, though, those who support Clinton, vote for her, and then find out that the corruption, lies and scandals are proven to have merit, wouldn't you bang your head once the truth came out? The FBI certainly is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't, but something as crucial as this investigation can't be swept under the rug. All of this should have been uncovered months ago, not a few days before the election.
In the history of our country, has anything like this ever happened prior to an election?
In the history of our country, has anything like this ever happened prior to an election?
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I'm not sure. For me, I just see it as big time karma. This all was bound to catch up sooner or later and how glorious it catches up days before the election.
I've always thought the charity was the biggest fraud of all. And now even that apparently might be part of the investigation.
There are some bloggers saying the president has the power to suspend the election while we sort this out. On the one hand, that seems fair. On the other, a lot of Trump supporters would go NUTS if he tried a stunt like that.
And we thought 2000 was wild and crazy.....
I wanted to ask this question regarding Anna. I thought when the molestation was made public that she claimed she was aware of that, even claiming Josh explained what happened to her parents. It seems on one hand that getting an annulment might be hard if you are divorcing for something you already knew.
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I think you're right about that, she did say something to the effect of it was already discussed ages ago or she knew about it ages ago. Am I mistaken that the families knew each other when they were still kids? I want to say she knew about it because she was actually around then.
But, I'm sure she can come up with some kind of excuse, like she didn't realize the extent of it, it was downplayed to her, she was mislead. I bet she was mislead, too.
Fleecing, Fox News and Wall Street Journal are conservative news outlets. They promote their agenda just like MSNBC promotes a liberal agenda. Most likely Hillary will be impeached, but like I said before, Trump is right there too because the Dems will make sure Trump gets investigated about his business dealings and the lawsuits. Both are seriously flawed and dishonest but it's laughable that people believe Trump is the more honest of the two. He just speaks in plain language unlike Hillary.
In the history of our country, has anything like this ever happened prior to an election?
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The whole WikiLeaks things has changed the game.
Both candidates could be under investigation while president. Trump had a rape trial, I believe, and is being sued for Trump University?
Hillary, of course, has had the email scandal and now it seems to be steering towards the Clinton Foundation.
It's all surreal.
But, I'm sure she can come up with some kind of excuse, like she didn't realize the extent of it, it was downplayed to her, she was mislead. I bet she was mislead, too.
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Not only mislead, but in general, those people treat their kids like mushrooms. Anna might be having several "a-ha" moments if she's finally exposed to the world outside the cult.
That said, if he wins, I really think the FBI investigation played a major role in it and I'm not sure that's right. Then again, if the FBI held back on this information, they would be accused of favoring Hillary by withholding information. It was a lose-lose for the FBI no matter when they dropped this bombshell.
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I agree it's a lose-lose, but the experts on both sides seem to agree that Comey went outside the boundaries in saying what he did about the Weiner investigation involving Hillary vis-a-vis the email scandal connection.
Then again, Bill Clinton was way, way out of bounds plane hopping and having a little tarmac "chat" with Loretta Lynch just before the FBI released it's findings and conclusions.
They all stink.
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Gosh even I now feel like the timing of this FBI investigation is really shitty luck. What if it all checks out just fine?? This could be just enough to sway the election over a completely unfinished investigation. Or, what if they do find something and you want to change your vote? Awful.
This may sound crazy but it almost seems like the election should wait until we have more information. Asking people to vote with just half the story on a very important issue is crazy.
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I joke around and say that it's about time American had another Catholic President ;-)
What's hard for women like Anna is that they are taught to fear, judge and even condemn the outside world.
The Duggars seem to have adopted her as their daughter and sister, and to divorce Josh would be to lose family for her. They have positioned themselves to be Anna's everything.
Of course, that way they can control her, too.
Kate makes herself the center of attention. Heaven forbid she just lets the kids shine. It must be hard to grow up with a mother who can't stand to not cast you in her shadow.
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Or, who does so even unintentionally.
This was the problem for the celebrity kids I helped raise. This giant shadow looming over them. Trying to find who YOU are in all that darkness is incredibly difficult, and the struggle was reflected in their ultimate grave problems with substance abuse very early in life. They just wanted to be Jack and Jim, not "the kids of such and such."
Yup! "Hate away" because I'm on tv and it makes me untouchable. It's amazing she still has custody of those kids.
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That is it. She basks in this because she thinks this has somehow given her the upper hand. As long as she keeps hearing "action!" she thinks she has won.
It is very, very immature.
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That is it. She basks in this because she thinks this has somehow given her the upper hand. As long as she keeps hearing "action!" she thinks she has won.
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Because, of course, the absolute pinnacle of anyone's existence must be being on TV. This is the sort of shallow thinking that is so damaging as a role model for those children.
Admin (#74), and the idea of TFW still seeing herself as "winning," when her young son had to be sent away, is sickening to me. Not that she needs to be somber and concerned 24/7, but the recent puppy love fest sure did not seem like it was coming from a household where a troubled child just recently moved away. An even more poignant loss when you remember the boy was part of a "six pack."
Yep, TFW, you're a big winner. Eight new episodes of your tired old storylines, on a network which proudly airs people who have intercourse with their cars. Who wouldn't be jealous?
The Gosselin kids have a rough road ahead of them with their mother.
Some may try to stand up to her as soon as they turn 18, but if they still live at home it won't work. Her house, her rules. As long as they live in her house they will have to do as she wants. They'll have to take their money and run and hope it's enough for them to go to college and live there or have a place of their own. Or move in with Dad!
Some may not stand up to her right away... it may take years. It may not even be until they are older and have families of their own.
The thing is Kate will never admit she exploited them, or didn't care about what the effects of filming them were.
The ones that confront her will have to face her "shock" and "hurt" that they feel that way. She will gaslight them and tell them that she sacrificed everything for them. She did it all for them so they could have everything she never had as a child. That she LIVED FOR THEM! They were her world... she had EIGHT kids to support... on and on and on.
They will have to be very strong to stand up to her. To cut her out of their lives, even if it's what they want.
The problem is it will divide the family. Some of the kids will continue to see Kate, spend holidays with her out of feelings of obligation, or some that actually believe her lies. Then they will be upset that the other kids won't be there for the holidays and blame them for just not making things easy for all of them. Some will give in to keep the peace, or maintain relationships with their siblings.
Choosing to take away your child's grandparent from them because you know they are toxic to have in your lives is not an easy decision. Most of them may not make that decision. Some may just do the holiday thing, but not have regular routine contact with her.
Nothing in those kids' futures is going to be easy. They will feel guilt, and question their sanity at times.
The good thing is that they have each other to confirm their feelings. They won't be alone.
They will also have Jon and other family members who know the truth. There will also be a wealth of information online of all the things Kate was made aware of in her decision to exploit her children and alienate their father and family.
I feel for those kids.
I wonder if TFW is aware of Mrs. Trump's pledge that, if she is the first lady, she will focus on bullying. I remember a couple of years ago K8 said she would like to be a spokeswoman for bullying (although I think she meant anti-bullying).
I can imagine, given her "link" to Trump, she might just try to keep herself in the limelight by putting herself forward to assist the first lady.
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I can imagine, given her "link" to Trump, she might just try to keep herself in the limelight by putting herself forward to assist the first lady.
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That would be JUST like Kate. Stay completely out of it until everything is all in place, then pop in and want her perks and pull rank to get it.
She's like that person who promised to help out at the party but sorry, got stuck in traffic. Here I am, how can I help?! they exclaim as they stroll in 5 minutes before it starts.
she knows TLC is the only thing that keeps her from going back to bedpans.
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You do realize that nurses do way more than empty a bedpan? And as a nurse, if I am assisting a post surgical patient void, or running a chemo line, each task that I preform is as carefully thought out as the last. And, just so you know, I haven't emptied a bedpan in years, not because I don't want to but because I have a team of providers that work together to make sure our pts needs are meet quickly and thoroughly.
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You do realize that nurses do way more than empty a bedpan? And as a nurse, if I am assisting a post surgical patient void, or running a chemo line, each task that I preform is as carefully thought out as the last. And, just so you know, I haven't emptied a bedpan in years, not because I don't want to but because I have a team of providers that work together to make sure our pts needs are meet quickly and thoroughly.
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I think it's Kate who doesn't "get" the nursing profession, has stayed away from a wonderful, rewarding career she could have been proud of and that could have been arranged to work quite nicely with her family's schedule. Stayed away like the plague.
I am just sitting here thinking how interesting it will be when the twins leave for college and start getting real freedom. I hope they both leave home for school. That will be the real test to see how manipulated they really are. It will also be interesting to see which one's fade away never to be heard from again, which one or one's stay in the industry and which one's stumble through. There are enough people who know about them to shake off their past. Will Collin's issues plague him forever, the boy from the tv show that was sent for psych and behavioral problem's ever reach his full potential, or will Hannah have a nervous breakdown. I am not sure which kid is truly that resilient enough to be fully productive at "life". What do you all think?
Admin (#74), I think that bedpan comment was for me, as I often use that when I talk about TFW not wanting to go back to nursing. For the record, I think nurses rock, and would never, ever disparage that career! But from what I know about nursing, it is a challenging career that takes hard work and dedication, and TFW isn't into either. I think a great nurse is also passionate about people, as well as her/his work, and TFW can't seem to drum that up for anything unless there's a camera in front of her, and a paycheck at the end.
Because, of course, the absolute pinnacle of anyone's existence must be being on TV. This is the sort of shallow thinking that is so damaging as a role model for those children.
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I think Kate has instilled in the kids, the notion that being on tv was never, is never, a limited gig. There's never enough money, fame and freebies, so you never put a period at the end of the sentence.
Filming was supposed to be to help the family financially, and that goal is met. Now, it's for greed and fame.
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You do realize that nurses do way more than empty a bedpan? And as a nurse, if I am assisting a post surgical patient void, or running a chemo line, each task that I preform is as carefully thought out as the last. And, just so you know, I haven't emptied a bedpan in years, not because I don't want to but because I have a team of providers that work together to make sure our pts needs are meet quickly and thoroughly.
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I think it's Kate who doesn't "get" the nursing profession, has stayed away from a wonderful, rewarding career she could have been proud of and that could have been arranged to work quite nicely with her family's schedule. Stayed away like the plague.
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You got that right! Avoids it like the plague, now, because it doesn't know how to help her anymore.
She only used her nursing certificate to land a dr. And what is so funny is the nice looking drs. got her number early, word spread like wildfire and even the ugly looking drs. wouldn't have anything to do with her.
But then she got the next best thing, a rich drs. son that she could easily con and manipulate and control. Then the show came along, then bodyguard Steve came along and wow, this is even better than a drs. son.
Steve getting paid 1600 per day, traveling first class on the book signing tours an Jon at home taking care of the kids. Wouldn't have been wonderful if in the beginning Jon could of gotten HARD evidence that she was abusing the babies, wait till she was on a trip with Steve, change all the locks on the doors, the gate code, file for emergency full custody and file for divorce, stop the filming.
Even though she would have the TLC legal team at her disposal, I think if Jon would of come out and said, look she admitted that she could have severely injured the kids and summoned me home and forced me to quit my job so I could protect the children. She needs mental help.
I want to think that it could of made a huge difference.
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she knows TLC is the only thing that keeps her from going back to bedpans.
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You do realize that nurses do way more than empty a bedpan? And as a nurse, if I am assisting a post surgical patient void, or running a chemo line, each task that I preform is as carefully thought out as the last. And, just so you know, I haven't emptied a bedpan in years, not because I don't want to but because I have a team of providers that work together to make sure our pts needs are meet quickly and thoroughly.
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I understand that as a nurse, you're taking offense, but it's just an expression that means Kate would never lower herself to performing the duties of clinical care.
The things you do as a nurse, I don't think Kate could actually cut it. I really don't. She is intellectually lazy, and physically, she is bone lazy.
Kate will never go back to nursing because she thinks she's too good for that now.
I think it's Kate who doesn't "get" the nursing profession, has stayed away from a wonderful, rewarding career she could have been proud of and that could have been arranged to work quite nicely with her family's schedule. Stayed away like the plague.
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Bingo. Kate should have been THRILLED to have the means to further her nursing degree and be in a nice position to take a management/administration track a long time ago.
Instead, she spends her days fomenting Jon's demise.
I think for sure, Cara will be happy to go to college far away and break free of filming. I could be wrong, but I think she's looking forward to her freedom.
My hope for Colin is that he reconnects with Jon and spends much time away from his mother.
I think a great nurse is also passionate about people, as well as her/his work, and TFW can't seem to drum that up for anything unless there's a camera in front of her, and a paycheck at the end.
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I think the Gosselins gave back in New Orleans, with cameras, for filming, of course. I believe I read that will be part of the new shows.
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I think the Gosselins gave back in New Orleans, with cameras, for filming, of course. I believe I read that will be part of the new shows.
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I have never viewed these "charitable" give-backs as anything but entirely self-serving. You can tell, the kids typically can't even figure out why they're there. I'd really like to know, too, how much TLC gives as part of these activities.
Tucker's Mom (#88), yeah, I assumed Dr. Drew or some other specialist had cured TFW, who claimed she was "addicted to giving." But she must've relapsed.
One of TFW's all-time tone deaf moments was when she brought a wagonful of her books to those kids at St. Jude's. She dared to compare her bedrest -- at which time she was waited on hand and foot while her parents watched the twins -- to these children who had a life-threatening disease and had probably suffered physical and emotional pain we wouldn't wish on our worst enemy. Some of those kids may not have ever made it home. But she poked and dabbed and cried and said she knew what they were going through.
Another hinky part of that episode was when the young woman, a cancer survivor, was giving TFW a tour, and TFW was not even remotely warm or friendly or even present with her. And that was with cameras rolling. Is there any doubt she's downright miserable to the "mediocre" off screen?
Another hinky part of that episode was when the young woman, a cancer survivor, was giving TFW a tour, and TFW was not even remotely warm or friendly or even present with her. And that was with cameras rolling. Is there any doubt she's downright miserable to the "mediocre" off screen?
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Jon was trying to be engaging with their docent, but Kate looked like she couldn't be more bored. Like, "let's get some B-roll and be done with this".
IIRC, didn't she walk ahead of the group and was bored out of her skull?
Remember at a toy store, she stepped on a little boys foot with her stiletto heels and he hollered OUCH! SHE KEPT WALKING and hollered, SORRY! without missing a beat!
Good thing it wasn't my kid!
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Would be Stomped on the floor
Don't Care!
On the "Kate Plus 8" Facebook page, the picture on the Nov.2 (6:07 pm)post is so telling. Collin..standing by himself, eyes downcast.Heartbreaking.
Well, we have 10,000 people in Hershey at the Trump rally tonight. No, I'm not there!
From the Daily Mail: "EXCLUSIVE: Woman who alleged she was raped by Donald Trump when she was 13 at a Jeffrey Epstein sex party DROPS the case - casting doubt on the truth of her claim".
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From the Daily Mail: "EXCLUSIVE: Woman who alleged she was raped by Donald Trump when she was 13 at a Jeffrey Epstein sex party DROPS the case - casting doubt on the truth of her claim".
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Trump is having the luck of ten lifetimes this week. Now this DOES feel rigged. What the!
Why is Kate obligated to remain in nursing? People often change jobs/careers. It is not a crime.
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Nothing about my post remotely suggested she was "obligated" to remain in nursing. The crime, though, is exploiting her children as her main source of income. I was suggesting an excellent and readily available alternative instead of exploiting her kids. I don't care what all she wants to do or how many career moves she wants as long as it's not exploiting the kids.
Pennsylvania was expected to go to Hillary by a narrow margin, that is up until about 5 hours ago. Now they have it virtually neck and neck, with Trump surging. PA would be a HUGE swing state for Trump to win. Wow, what a nail biter.
I despise this whole election. But I have a question. We have gotten to the point where we don't even believe the news any more. Some are right wing biased, some are left wing biased, etc. A standard response to any news report is "they're lying." My question: Why do we automatically believe WikiLeaks? Why don't we question if they have altered anything?
I have been hospitalized a lot. I have had a lot of good nurses. But we have watched Kate with her kids. She has no compassion or work ethic. She has not kept her skills updated. If she had worked at it, she could have a job at home reviewing electronic charts or clinical data. But I think emptying bedpans is about the only nursing skill she would be successful at. At least the only one I would trust her to do for me.
Pennsylvania was expected to go to Hillary by a narrow margin, that is up until about 5 hours ago. Now they have it virtually neck and neck, with Trump surging. PA would be a HUGE swing state for Trump to win. Wow, what a nail biter.
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The attendance tonight at the Giant Center was a record-breaker for that venue.
Pennsylvania was expected to go to Hillary by a narrow margin, that is up until about 5 hours ago. Now they have it virtually neck and neck, with Trump surging. PA would be a HUGE swing state for Trump to win. Wow, what a nail biter.
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The attendance tonight at the Giant Center was a record-breaker for that venue.
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Head count was 13,000 plus. Who would have thought it?
The attendance tonight at the Giant Center was a record-breaker for that venue.
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I'd really love to be a fly on the wall for all these people suddenly changing their vote to Trump. Was it really, after all this time, the FBI email announcement? It's not the simplest scandal to follow, I don't get the sense the average headline reader is looking that carefully at it, and THAT's the one that turns people? Americans are funny.
They're calling Nevada and Ohio probably for Trump now too. Former battleground states. N.H., which swung Hillary just a few days ago, is now a battleground up for grabs.
Trump is having the luck of ten lifetimes this week. Now this DOES feel rigged. What the!
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And, he's staying on message. This week has a different feel for him. It's nuts.
I thought he was fizzling out completely.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 97
Why is Kate obligated to remain in nursing? People often change jobs/careers. It is not a crime.
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Nothing about my post remotely suggested she was "obligated" to remain in nursing. The crime, though, is exploiting her children as her main source of income
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Kate's career is exploiting her kids. It had NEVER been anything else since she abandoned an excellent, life-long vocation.
Reality tv is fleeting, albeit, her lifespan in it has been longer than others. Still, if she thinks it's going to carry her until retirement, she's wrong.
Why do we automatically believe WikiLeaks? Why don't we question if they have altered anything?
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Because no one, afaik, is coming out and saying, "I NEVER wrote that email".
Look at Donna Brazile. The best defense she had was that she was being persecuted as a Christian.
Uh, seriously?
That's exactly why I like Wikileaks as opposed to the awful state of media today. They just post things and let you figure out how you feel about it. It's rare someone actually denies the documents they post. They usually just confuse the issue, like they never should have gotten the documents. Okay, but that doesn't make them fake.
There's skeptical, and then there's paranoid. Unless we have some reason to believe Wikileaks alters documents they post, I'm not going to worry about that.
Okay, but that doesn't make them fake.
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Anything electronic these days? You know what they say about mics...
Always assume they're hot.
Kate's career is exploiting her kids. It had NEVER been anything else since she abandoned an excellent, life-long vocation.
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Oh, Tucker's. You beat me to it. I was just going to say the same thing, and add that while her career has been exploiting her kids, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a crime in the legal sense of the word, but it does mean that morally it's a crime, and a crying shame. If it's been physical abuse, then yes, it *is* a punishable crime. So much for her career.
Because no one, afaik, is coming out and saying, "I NEVER wrote that email".
Look at Donna Brazile. The best defense she had was that she was being persecuted as a Christian.
Uh, seriously?
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True. He made it clear from the beginning that he doesn't have a horse in this race. He's not pro-anyone. He just put it out there. It's kind of like Kate and her lawsuit, and copyrighting the journal. As far as I know, she never claimed that she never wrote those things, or was innocent of her actions. She never sued for libel.
Does anyone else here read from the bottom up, or am I just the oddball? ;)
I read here alot ....always from the bottom up😀
Blowing In The Wind said... 111
Does anyone else here read from the bottom up, or am I just the oddball? ;)
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Funny, I just scrolled down to the bottom and read this. Yes, I do
Regarding the woman who "dropped" the rape case against Donald Trump - she gave an interview to the Daily Mail (accompanied by her lawyer Lisa Blum) prior to the press conference which was cancelled on Wednesday. In the interview she gave details of her claim against Trump. The Daily Mail article states: "She neither requested nor was she offered any compensation to talk about her claims."
I find that odd because it is well known the Daily Mail pays for 'interesting' claims. It makes me think the press will be keeping an eye on his woman to see if there is any change in her lifestyle after "dropping" her claim against Trump. It smells like "settlement to drop" to me.
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Assange has no horse in this race? Oh My God. Read, lady. Read.
Blowing In The Wind said... 110
. . . It's kind of like Kate and her lawsuit, and copyrighting the journal. As far as I know, she never claimed that she never wrote those things, or was innocent of her actions. She never sued for libel.
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And there's a very good reason for that. She couldn't. Either there were no original copies of the diary in her possession for comparison (which, knowing Kate, is possible, she's extremely careless about some things), OR there was a comparison (this is pretty easy to do) between texts and there were no alterations to the original found. If she had a real case to sue for libel, after all the money she's spent on attorneys "for the safety of my kids" (lol), you can be sure she would have done so. There is no question in my mind that every word Hoffman published as hers was, in fact, hers.
Anonymous said... 114
Lisa Blum is Gloria Allred's daughter. I'm sure it's no coincidence that they seem to be building a practice in these sorts of cases.
I always read from the bottom up because I never remember which comment I read last. I do recognize it when I get to it though.
The Chicago Tribune has endorsed Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate, for President because the country "has fallen inescapably into political and policy gridlock".
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NJGal51 said... 118
I always read from the bottom up because I never remember which comment I read last. I do recognize it when I get to it though.
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That's why I do it too
Jinger Duggar got married in front of 1000 guests. That sure didn't take long, maybe 5 months from courting to engagement to marriage. Must have been those side hugs.
Low info voter-NOT said... 115
Assange has no horse in this race? Oh My God. Read, lady. Read.
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Actually, he said when he initially announced the release of the docs that he wasn't a Clinton supporter, nor a Trump supporter and he wasn't out to get Hillary. He is now saying that Russia is not behind the release of the e-mails and that he feels sorry for Hillary. According to him, he is not pro either one of them, so in that sense he's not taking sides; therefore, no horse in the race (apparently doesn't support either candidate) in the bid for POTUS, not putting his money on either one of them.
"Assange added, "Hillary Clinton is just one person. I actually feel quite sorry for Hillary Clinton as a person, because I see someone who is eaten alive by their ambitions, tormented literally to the point where they become sick — for example faint — as a result of going on, and going with their ambitions. But she represents a whole network of people, and a whole network of relationships with particular states."
A lot of people have ben raising Cain about some of the alarming corruption that has finally been exposed in this election. I don't think it's fair to assume just because you're beating the drum about that you must automatically be supportive of the other side.
Exposing government corruption is in everyone's best interest. In fact I would have expected more outrage from the side where most of the corruption is coming from. They shouldn't want this to be any part of their party.
Jinger Duggar got married in front of 1000 guests. That sure didn't take long, maybe 5 months from courting to engagement to marriage. Must have been those side hugs.
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How many side hugs will they have to give each other until she is with child?
Exposing government corruption is in everyone's best interest. In fact I would have expected more outrage from the side where most of the corruption is coming from. They shouldn't want this to be any part of their party.
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But isn't that what the sheeple/Kate supporters do? They don't want to hear anything negative about her, put their fingers in their ears and go...I can't hear you! Instead of facing things that have been disclosed, they pretend it doesn't exist. Same with corruption in government. Ignore it and it will go away. No pictures. Didn't happen, and isn't happening now.
Josh "holding his new child" was at Jinger's wedding but no mention of Anna.
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I think she's standing just to his left (or your right viewing the photo), looks like she's wearing red? I could be wrong.
Sad but true,
Kate's copyright lawsuit had the the journal excerpts in it. It listed many pages line by line with the first few words...... ending with the last few words. Matched what Hoffman had in the book page for page and line by line. It was all hers. Thus the reason she COPYRIGHTED it.
There's our Katie, lurking late on a Saturday night to drop some new puppy pap:
kateplusmy8 I asked her to fold my laundry but I think this means 'no'. #OhWell #Nanuq
Sad but true (#129), maybe TFW looked at People.com and saw the announcement of Jinger Duggar's wedding, and realized in 9 months there might be another cute baby
for her to compete with on TLC, and decided it was time for more puppy pics. How mediocre.
as for reading bottom to top, I have a solution. I just leave the tab open. When I return I note the time of the last post and hit refresh. It nearly always pops up right where I left off.
just wondering said... 131
as for reading bottom to top, I have a solution. I just leave the tab open. When I return I note the time of the last post and hit refresh. It nearly always pops up right where I left off.
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This is what I do. Works great.
To read comments in order I subscribe to each post by email. There's an option for it below the Blog's comment box.
I have several different email accounts for different purposes; mostly to keep my main email account free from clutter.
Since I can have as many accounts as I want on my iPhone iOS mail app I just read the comments in order in one email account.
It also allows you to hit "Post a comment" in the email and it will send me directly to the blog's comment box on my iPhone.
It alleviates the scrolling and finding where I left off.
I also receive an email when Admin posts a new post. However, there are usually about 20 comments already posted by the time I get that email notification and subscribe to the new post. So I do have to read the new comments that were made before I subscribed but that's easy because I just read them quickly in order.
I do wish though that Admin would post a final comment on each post when she closes it and creates a new post. Sometimes I check my email and wonder why there are no new comments for a while. Then I get the new post notification.
But I really hate scrolling through the comments to find out where I left off and I hate reading in reverse order so subscribing to posts and comments works best for me.
I do wish though that Admin would post a final comment on each post when she closes it and creates a new post. Sometimes I check my email and wonder why there are no new comments for a while. Then I get the new post notification.
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I think I used to say "new post!" and then closed the comments. I can start doing that again.
I am absolutely HOOKED to The Crown on Netflix. 10 part series about Queen Elizabeth. They made her human.
Wow. Wouldn't it be ironic and sweet justice if it was 8 years?
“Collin said something to the facility’s staff and it was reported to Children and Youth Services [CYS], which started an official probe,” an insider revealed to Life & Style magazine.
“The police later notified Colin’s dad, Jon [Gosselin, 39], that a child abuse investigation was opened.”
Even crazier, if the allegations are deemed true, Kate would face up to seven years in prison!
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/11/04/kate-gosselin-child-abuse-investigation-spanking-kids-with-wooden-spoon/
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 135
I am absolutely HOOKED to The Crown on Netflix. 10 part series about Queen Elizabeth. They made her human.
November 6, 2016 at 6:20 AM
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LOVED Good Girls Revolt. If you loved Mad Men, it's a must-watch. It also have a bit of Vinyl feel about it.
Halt + Catch Fire-ah-mazing.
Watching S3 of The Fall.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 135
I am absolutely HOOKED to The Crown on Netflix. 10 part series about Queen Elizabeth. They made her human.
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Likewise! I've been watching it this weekend as a change from the election and find myself going to Google to get more information on a wide variety of all things Elizabeth. I don't think it rises to documentary standards, but it feels honest and well-researched. It's easy to forget how young and ill prepared she was as a young Queen and yet she showed such strength and commitment.
Tucker's Mom - I'm also watching Good Girls Revolt and loving it!
Low info voter-NOT said... 115
Assange has no horse in this race? Oh My God. Read, lady. Read.
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lol! I wish I could see more clearly now. Literally. I had some wood chips removed from my left eye (don't ask!), and until the bandage is removed I see only from the right. Not doing too much reading right now.
A corneal abrasion can be pretty darn painful, but a good excuse to treat it with medicinal Jack Daniels spiced rum...in the stomach, not the eye.
Anonymous said... 76
I wonder if TFW is aware of Mrs. Trump's pledge that, if she is the first lady, she will focus on bullying. I remember a couple of years ago K8 said she would like to be a spokeswoman for bullying (although I think she meant anti-bullying).
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That's gonna be kind of hard when Melania is thrown out of the country as an illegal immigrant.
What I don't get is how people cannot see that if they're Never Clinton because of corruption that Trump is just as corrupt! The guy hasn't done an ethical, honest thing in his life.
A corneal abrasion can be pretty darn painful, but a good excuse to treat it with medicinal Jack Daniels spiced rum...in the stomach, not the eye.
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Oh, gosh, Blowing. I feel for you. It is painful! I had a tiny grain of sand in my eye and it really hurts. As long as my eye was closed, it wasn't too bad, but when I tried to see out of both eyes, the bright light was brutal in the "sandy" eye. I had the small grain removed by the ophthalmologist, but healing took some time. Hope all will be well soon!
In the meantime, keep drinking. It does ease the pain! ;-) Jack can help cure most anything!
“The police later notified Colin’s dad, Jon [Gosselin, 39], that a child abuse investigation was opened.”
Even crazier, if the allegations are deemed true, Kate would face up to seven years in prison!
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We all know that nothing will come of this. Kate won't do any prison time. She's Teflon and above the law. It would be his word against her word, and I would imagine that proof wouldn't be easy to obtain.
Where is everybody at today?
Chris Christie is in charge of putting Trump's team together in anticipation of victory. Christie's own team have been convicted re Bridgegate.
Whoever wins the election, I somewhat sadly don't think we will be able to say (as President Gerald Ford said) 'Our long national nightmare is over'.
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That's gonna be kind of hard when Melania is thrown out of the country as an illegal immigrant.
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She is a United States citizen. I really doubt she will be "thrown out of the country" because her work papers from the mid-90s are called into question. Geez.
Another scare tactic from the Hillary side meant to sway the election. No one's campaign platform remotely involves doing anything at all with immigrants who are here legally, fairly, and waited their turn. What was said, is that illegals may be deported especially those who have committed crimes. Which Obama does a heck of a lot of himself. Unfortunate the lies about this.
Whoever wins the election, I somewhat sadly don't think we will be able to say (as President Gerald Ford said) 'Our long national nightmare is over'.
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No matter who wins, you're right. There's going to be so much whining and bellyaching and it won't end until the four years is over.
I'm afraid we're really in for it the next four years. Anyone but these two and it would have settled down right away.
I have no idea what "lie" to which you are referring, but complaining about Clinton's lies is pretty amusing coming from a Trump supporter.
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The fact that lies are pointed out doesn't mean one is saying there hasn't been lies from someone else. Why would you assume if I say you are a liar, no one else in the world lies?? That's some ridiculous logic right there. The same could be said for your side of things--pointing out all of Trump's "lies" but refusing to believe any of the lies directly from Hillary.
Can't we all agree there have been gross mischaracterizations from both sides? It's the same nonsense with the treatment of women as a campaign platform. Good Lord, it's a joke when such things are touted as a reason to vote for one's candidate.
The same could be said for your side of things--pointing out all of Trump's "lies" but refusing to believe any of the lies directly from Hillary.
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Such as the "hail of gunfire" when the truth is right there on video? Oops!
Sheepless In Seattle said... 147
That's gonna be kind of hard when Melania is thrown out of the country as an illegal immigrant.
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She is a United States citizen. I really doubt she will be "thrown out of the country" because her work papers from the mid-90s are called into question. Geez.
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I'd be happy to give her a pass, even though she broke the law a number of times, but her own husband wouldn't were she not his wife. I don't like hypocrites.
I'd be happy to give her a pass, even though she broke the law a number of times, but her own husband wouldn't were she not his wife. I don't like hypocrites.
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I'm confused. In reading your comments, I thought that you were a Hillary supporter.
I'd be happy to give her a pass, even though she broke the law a number of times, but her own husband wouldn't were she not his wife.
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Hundreds of thousands of immigrants have broken the law to get here and many of those broke the law once here, including hurting and killing American citizens. Asking to deport some of the worst offenders is neither unreasonable nor unwarranted. In fact, it's a campaign platform that 50% of voters are behind.
I never saw Trump say anything about nit-picking minor violations from 20 years ago and kicking out people who are already naturalized. Never.
GollyGee said... 145
Where is everybody at today?
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Lying low until Wednesday?
Sherry Baby said... 153
I'd be happy to give her a pass, even though she broke the law a number of times, but her own husband wouldn't were she not his wife. I don't like hypocrites.
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I'm confused. In reading your comments, I thought that you were a Hillary supporter.
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HA! Now that was funny. Nope. I'm a supporter of a write in candidate whom I won't name. But mostly I'm a supporter of people who aren't called Clinton or Trump or Donald or Hilary. (Though each time I've met Bill he was damn charming and whip smart.)I'm also a supporter of playing devils advocate and free speech that won't get you locked up or sued. And I am NEVER a supporter of hypocrites, which makes it nearly impossible to vote even in the best of situations...
HA! Now that was funny. Nope. I'm a supporter of a write in candidate whom I won't name.
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Kate?
Seriously, Kate or even random guessing seems to be a better choice for a candidate than this nonsense. Maybe I'll start a Write in Kate! campaign.
60 Minutes did an EXCELLENT piece tonight on just that. On voters fed up with the choices, I mean. Not on writing in Kate.
Kate?
Seriously, Kate or even random guessing seems to be a better choice for a candidate than this nonsense. Maybe I'll start a Write in Kate! campaign.
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I remember when I first heard Trump was running and he had just started getting the momentum going, there were so many CRAZY comments and things said that I have never heard before in an election. It reminded me of the show Brewsters Million.
Richard Pryor's uncle had died and challenged him to spend so many million in a short amount of time without any assets left. It was like 3 million or so. If he could, at the end he would inherit like 30 million. He couldn't tell ANYONE and had to be completely broke. He was trying to figure a way to squander a HUGE amount of money where there would be no assets left. His eye caught a billboard or whatever of candidates running for office, I think for mayor. In the show it was the same scenario with the same dilemma we are having. None of the candidates are any good. He saw this as a brilliant way to blow his money and joined the ballot as "none of the above". He was sure no one would elect a complete stranger. I don't want to give it away incase someone wants to watch it. It's a real funny. John Candy played his best bud.
Anyway, I thought that Trump jumping and being a such a jerkster fell right in line with the movie. I can't help but wonder if, deep down inside where only you and God go, he secretly doesn't want to be pres. but things just got a little out of hand.
I know that's stretching a bit but it's just a thought.
pym said... 155
GollyGee said... 145
Where is everybody at today?
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Lying low until Wednesday?
November 6, 2016 at 7:53 PM
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Securing living arrangements in Canada?
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The Life&Style article on Kate's abuse is leaking out, little by little, and if this is true, how awful:
#SaveCollin @HandToForehead
@Kateplusmy8 "He [Collin] was forced to eat & sleep separately & had to earn time [to be] with the other family members" Life&Style 11/14/16
Kate Gosselin" Horrific New Details in Child Abuse Investigation!
Kate Gosselin is about a million different kinds of terrible.
It's not new information, sure, but that doesn't make it any less true.
And if you really feel the need for new information about Kate's wickedness, well, be careful what you wish for.
You know that story about how Kate's allegedly being investigated for child abuse?
It all started with her son, Collin -- the one she sent off to a treatment center to deal with his "special needs."
According to an insider, "Collin said something to the facility's staff and it was reported to the Children and Youth Services, which started an official probe."
"The police later notified Collin's dad, Jon, that a child abuse investigation was opened."
When we first heard about the investigation, we thought it was a little odd that Jon's been so quiet about it all.
After all, it seems like Jon's favorite activity is publicly slamming his ex-wife, and good for him.
But now we're learning that the reason Jon hasn't commented on the alleged child abuse investigation might be that he's just too damn sad.
"He worries every single day for his son," a source reveals.
"Jon used to have to grab Kate by her wrist to stop her from beating Collin and some of the other kids with a wooden spoon."
"He often had to stand between Kate and the kids to stop her from hitting them."
And that's not the only new bit of information about the case.
If all these allegations are true and Kate is convicted, she could be looking at up to seven years in prison.
And oh, what we wouldn't give for that TLC special ...
Of course, the idea that Kate could be the subject of a child abuse investigation isn't exactly surprising.
Who could forget those journal entries of hers that were so alarmingly made public?
When Collin was just two years old, Kate wrote that she got "too rough" with him after he refused to sit in a corner.
"I feel so guilty that I treated him like that," she confessed.
"I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy."
Kate's remorse apparently didn't last too long, because a few months later, she lost her damn mind when Collin -- still two years old, mind you -- had the audacity to spill a bag of beans.
"I was instantly so SO angry," she wrote, "that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib till Jon came home!"
"I have never felt that I may seriously injure a child but today was that day!"
Gee, wonder why Collin has some emotional issues?
Couldn't have anything to do with his miserable mother, could it?
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/11/kate-gosselin-horrific-new-details-in-child-abuse-investigation/
With Colin locked in the windowless room, and had to EARN TIME to be with family members, should be enough to get her jail time for child abuse!
She has really done some horrible and damaging abuse to Colin for years.
If this is what CPS investigated, earning time to be with family members, then WHY is she not being charged? She should be charged for this.
Anyway, I thought that Trump jumping and being a such a jerkster fell right in line with the movie. I can't help but wonder if, deep down inside where only you and God go, he secretly doesn't want to be pres. but things just got a little out of hand.
I know that's stretching a bit but it's just a thought.
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Funny, what came to mind for me was The Thomas Crowne Affair.
But now we're learning that the reason Jon hasn't commented on the alleged child abuse investigation might be that he's just too damn sad.
"He worries every single day for his son," a source reveals.
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Again, scratching my head here. How does a father with parental rights not have first-hand information about his son?
The kids was 9 or 10 when he stopped seeing Jon. At some point, you do what you have to do, what you're forced to do, to see your son. Be it with police knocking on Kate's door, or with a therapist.
I don't understand it either, Tucker's.
The police had to go to Jon and tell him that a child abuse investigation had been opened up against TFW.
The police by going to tell Jon about the child abuse investigation, PROVES that if the first day TFW didn't send ALL 8 KIDS down the driveway, he could of called the police and they would of enforced the visitation order.
Don't you know that TFW was madder than a old wet hen rode hard and put up wet when she found out that the police informed Jon of the child abuse investigation?
I hope wherever Colin is he is getting loving care with kind, understanding professionals. It gives me hope that Colin told them of the abuses and they being mandated reporters told CPS and they opened an investigation.
BLOWS MY MIND if he had to earn time to be with his brothers and sisters or even his own mother that they haven't charged her yet for this.
Even as horrific as Joan Crawford was with her adopted kids, I never heard of them having to earn time to be with people.
Your day is coming FW.
No one expects Melania to be kicked out of the US even if she violated US immigration law. The kicker is the irony that she's married to Mr. Build A Wall and he would kick out illegal immigrants. And her speech about bullying? Irony at its best. Does the woman live only in her gold Trump Tower bubble? Does she not read his Twitter or listen to his rallies? Not relatable in any sense. I feel sorry for her, in a way, because she appears to be completely dominated by Trump. I recall Trump said the biggest mistake he made was giving ex-wife Ivana a job in Trump organization. He did not like her not paying attention to him.
It's obvious to me Melania was just a stupid hooker that he Pretty Womanized out of the trash heap. Cyber Bullying is the dumbest cause ever. Go back to the drawing board.
Turn off your computer. There, now you're not cyber bullied.
Today's Dancing with The Stars program alert: tonight's theme for dances is Showstoppers and the extra special guest judge is IDINA MENZEL for real! It should be a great show!
Even as horrific as Joan Crawford was with her adopted kids, I never heard of them having to earn time to be with people.
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Didn't you read her daughter's book? She most certainly did.
Where the hell has Jon been? Navel gazing?
Oh my God - Collin had to "earn time" to be with other family members - this is much worse than anything I could have imagined. This woman really needs to be charged for cruelty to at least this vulnerable little boy. I don't see how she can talk her way out of this - there has to be at least seven of the others who would be able to back that up (assuming Collin told professionals of her behavior towards him).
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Yesterday Drew Barrymore and her daughters were in NYC to cheer Drew's ex husband on in the marathon. Another woman who loves her kids more than she hates her ex.
Where the hell has Jon been? Navel gazing?
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Looks like Jon has been working steadily, and he's not been commenting on the news about Colin.
I hope that he's being like a duck- nothing happening on the surface, but kicking like hell below the water.
There would have to be dire conditions for me to understand why Colin would be separated from his brothers in that man cave, which he loved.
The police by going to tell Jon about the child abuse investigation, PROVES that if the first day TFW didn't send ALL 8 KIDS down the driveway, he could of called the police and they would of enforced the visitation order.
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I think that's a pretty big leap to think their notification means they'd enforce a visitation order. JMO, tho. We'll never know though, since it apparently never happened.
Where's the info about Colin having to "earn" time with the family? WTH!
TLC stinks said... 175
Where's the info about Colin having to "earn" time with the family? WTH!
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The Life&Style article, November 14 edition of the printed magazine. Details being released slowly, as InTouch does it.
She should be charged with abusing Colin.
The locked, windowless room.
Having to earn time to be with his brothers and sisters.
Working like a fine farm hand with the chickens.
Verbally abusing him. (Hannah's hair, Colin's Gift). She has established a pattern.
What did she do, go to school or work in nursing with the people that work in CPS? Something is not right. Does Colin not have the right to grow up not being abused by his mother?
She cannot talk her way out of this!
Tamara said...169
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No, I didn't get a chance to read Christine's book. I saw the movie a couple of times. I thought the girl that played Christine (when she was older) was very good.
I felt so bad for her and her brother Christopher. Crawford tied that poor boy to the bed at night.
Which one of Crawford's husbands gave Christine money to help her out because her mother wasn't when she was a struggling actress? The Pepsi guy?
What was so awful is when Christine finally got a part on a soap opera, she got a bad cold or flu and Crawford got to play her part. The scene of Crawford with the hideous older face, makeup, fake wig, with scarf sitting at a kitchen table talking to a girl barely 20 and Crawford was playing a 20 year old was horrible.
Did TFW get much response for her Saturday night Nanuq laundry post? She isn't exactly knocking herself trying to drum up attention for the new episodes, is she?
What did she do, go to school or work in nursing with the people that work in CPS? Something is not right. Does Colin not have the right to grow up not being abused by his mother?
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I suggested this when the news first came out, and it's pure speculation. But it's entirely possible Collin was PLACED in this facility, against her will, and is a ward of CPS. She can act all she wants like she supports it and it was a heartrending decision, but that doesn't prove that this wasn't all CPS and a judge deciding he shouldn't be in her care and needed treatment, whether she agreed.
Thanks for that Admin @ 179 - I wondered about that. It's possible she had no decision in the matter and no choice in whether to support it.
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She cannot talk her way out of this!
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Yes, she can, and she continues to do so.
I suggested this when the news first came out, and it's pure speculation. But it's entirely possible Collin was PLACED in this facility, against her will, and is a ward of CPS. She can act all she wants like she supports it and it was a heartrending decision, but that doesn't prove that this wasn't all CPS and a judge deciding he shouldn't be in her care and needed treatment, whether she agreed.
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Well, Kate hd no problem telling people that 2 kids were pulled out of school when in fact, they were kicked out. She made it sound like she had a choice, when she had none.
I just don't know how she could hide it if Colin was taken out of the home instead of her placing him. That's big time.
Not to mention continue filming like there's no tomorrow.
Someone commented here that she never heard anything vile or offensive from Hillary. I just finished reading, "The First Family Detail: Secret Service Agents Reveal the Hidden Lives of the Presidents." Good read. Apparently she has quite the mouth on her and drops the F-bomb whenever and wherever she feels like it, and her rudeness to the staff and others have been confirmed by many.
Apparently she wore the pants (suits) in that family!
Over In TFW's County said... 184
Someone commented here that she never heard anything vile or offensive from Hillary. I just finished reading, "The First Family Detail: Secret Service Agents Reveal the Hidden Lives of the Presidents." Good read. Apparently she has quite the mouth on her and drops the F-bomb whenever and wherever she feels like it, and her rudeness to the staff and others have been confirmed by many.
Apparently she wore the pants (suits) in that family!
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Kind of like Nixon, VP Cheney, LBJ, many others. If she were a man, I doubt this would even be discussed.
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Did TFW get much response for her Saturday night Nanuq laundry post? She isn't exactly knocking herself trying to drum up attention for the new episodes, is she?
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24 comments in 48 hours. Not counting the ones she deleted. And since Milo claims to be on vacation, I imagine that's going keep the number down by maybe 30-40%.
Re whether Kate has told the truth regarding Collin's departure from his home, I would say the chances are near 100% that we are nowhere near the truth of the matter. She learned from the school expulsion back in 2010---this time, she got her version out first. And except for Jon (who may or may not know the facts), everyone else involved will be sworn by their jobs to confidentiality. I would guess even her other kids don't know the whole story; and what they don't know, they can't spill, right?
@Sad but true Not sure if this is true but one of the Kate critics on twitter is claiming that the photo that Milo uploaded on IG,claiming to be on vacation is a stock photo.Im not sure if anyone can confirm this.
Sad but true (#186), thanks for answering about the Nanuq response.
If it's true C was taken away, could this whole puppy thing have been just a giant distraction for the other kids? A way of keeping them on Team Mommy? She'd made it abundantly clear she was never a dog person, and suddenly she was raising
2 new puppies, and shouting her love from the rooftops. There is always a method to her madness. Always.
@Sad but true Not sure if this is true but one of the Kate critics on twitter is claiming that the photo that Milo uploaded on IG,claiming to be on vacation is a stock photo.Im not sure if anyone can confirm this.
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Is it a photo of Kate on vacation, or Milo on vacation? Or the two of them walking together into the setting sun? If it's just Milo, who cares if it's a stock photo? She's done this before...nothing new there.
Kind of like Nixon, VP Cheney, LBJ, many others. If she were a man, I doubt this would even be discussed.
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Nixon wore a pantsuit? Polyester?
Over In TFW's County said... 190
Kind of like Nixon, VP Cheney, LBJ, many others. If she were a man, I doubt this would even be discussed.
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Nixon wore a pantsuit? Polyester?
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The brown plaid shiny number was my favorite!
I just don't know how she could hide it if Colin was taken out of the home instead of her placing him. That's big time.
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Kate is someone who would think nothing of it. I think she also thinks, better to get ahead of the story and spin it the way I want to before rumors fly. She has a basic understanding of PR and spin.
She didn't say CPS and the courts were involved, but she didn't deny it either. I always thought she would lay down and die before breaking up the six pack no matter how much one might need it. Breaking them up willingly doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
She has a basic understanding of PR and spin.
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Now there's an understatement! Kate is very savvy when it comes to PR (mostly using her kids, but...)
Wouldn't they take the other kids away if they thought Collin was being abused?
Wouldn't they take the other kids away if they thought Collin was being abused?
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No, not necessarily at all. I've had many cases where only one or some of the kids are detained while the others remain home.
There are often scapegoat situations where a parent is having a problem with just one or two children and is abusing them or neglecting them, but the other children report no abuse or not to the same degree. (On another note, this is where conflicts develop and I can't represent all of the kids)
It's actually quite common for a marginal parent to have problems coping with a child with special needs, or a teenager or other difficult child, but has no problem raising other children who don't have those issues.
It's supposed to be a child by child basis. You don't HAVE to detain all the children just because one is having issues.
@Over In TFW's County Does she?I know she got caught uploading an old photo pretending like its new but i've not seen anyone confirm the photos of a certain landscape and pretending she's there when it was stocked.
@Over In TFW's County Does she?I know she got caught uploading an old photo pretending like its new but i've not seen anyone confirm the photos of a certain landscape and pretending she's there when it was stocked.
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Milo got caught using a stock photo of a bird. I'm not sure why it matters if she's using a fake vacation photo. We don't even know if she's a 'real' person with a family, or catfishing from a facility.
🐢 @juliannaa18_ 12m12 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Kate!!! I'm a huge fan & going to be in your neck of the woods this weekend...help a girl out!! Traveling from Upstate NY!
LOL!! What does she want from Kate? Directions? Tourist places to visit? Burgers on Deckster?
Sherry Baby (#198), unless that fan can offer her free spa passes, or at least a carload of expired cereal, TFW ain't interested!
But wouldn't Jon have been informed about where C is if he was taken away? Then again, I would have thought Jon would have the legal right to be informed where he is if he were sent away too.
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