After all, the Bush administration lost millions of emails and also was found to be using a private email server. Last time I checked, no one went to jail for that. People have very short memories.
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Sigh. It's not about the email server. It's about using the server to hide corruption. Especially corruption in her "charity". Emails were not "lost" like in some kind of amateur hour early 2000s computer crash. They. were. deleted. And they were deleted to hide evidence of her corruption. There's a difference.
I didn't say she should go to jail. I said she should be allowed to be pardoned and move on. What a waste of a very bright narcissist swept up in the sludge of politics. What great things she could be doing with her time other than eating BBQ at campaign events in Iowa for decades.
Bottom line there was nothing, nothing at all inappropriate about trump throwing out jail as a possibly for her. Maybe if Bernie had been more willing to take a tougher path like trump did, we'd be talking about president Sanders right now.
Looks like the president elect got his phone back.
He needs to realize that as the president elect he now has different responsibilities.
He can't be running his mouth anymore about any and every thing he doesn't like. He can't be saying things he doesn't mean anymore, this isn't a reality show with do-overs.
His role as raging lunatic is over. Now he needs to play the role of responsible president elect.
The USA is not a company which he just bought. He was elected president of a democracy.
This would be a perfect time for him to start showing us his leadership skills in calming things down.
This would be a perfect time for him to start showing us his leadership skills in calming things down.
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What do you think of Obama's leadership in calming Ferguson?
I'm sorry but it's nuts to expect a president any president to be able to reason with these fringe groups. What needs to happen is we need to support our police in making swift, immediate arrests of all people invoking violence or hate crimes. Done, off to jail. Today I was stuck in utter gridlock for an hour and a half next to the 10 freeway because protestors had shut it down. I saw dozens of cops just standing there. Not making arrests not getting them off. Good lord! Trump can't do anything about supporting law enforcement in being tougher on this crap until he's in office. Incidentally, the law enforcement vote for him was overwhelming. He blew that out of the water. Apparently, they too want to be able to do more.
Trump, Clinton and Obama have all been mature and extraordinary calm the past couple days. There are no deficiencies here in leadership. Obama is still president, it's not for Trump to push him off the stage and take over this issue. Obama could call for law enforcement to enforce the law, he might start there. Under his leadership all our cops are afraid to do anything for fear of being racist.
In LA they had the count of protestors I think at one point was at about 40 today. Yawn, enough to shut down a freeway, but numbers wise about the size of my high school gym class. Much ado about nothing.
@Admin -- Hillary actually won the popular vote. In most (if not all other) democracies, that is how you win the election. It is very hard to understand all your butt-kissing of Trump when practically anywhere else he would have lost. The Electoral College is what got him elected, which was (surprise surprise) "updated" by Republicans. And the voter suppression by the Republicans was appalling. To deny that is what happened, is to simply deny the facts. To say you are upset with Hillary's emails, do you have any comment about the emails HE deleted when under court order to produce HIS emails?? Was that ok because he was a private citizen, even though he was court-ordered not to do that? And to say he is a successful businessman when he has been involved in over 3500 lawsuits?? He would not pay contractors or workers, then tie them up in court until the other party has no other option but to bow out cuz they can't afford the court/lawyer fees. Then he would declare that he "won" the lawsuit. This man is totally despicable. The Access Hollywood tape was not "locker room talk"-- locker room talk is about what you would LIKE to do... he was telling Billy Bush what he ACTUALLY DOES, not what he would like to do. I can't believe how far up Trump's butt your head is... you must be able to see his tonsils. Your country will get exactly what you deserve by electing this buffoon. I get that he won the Electoral College, but he did NOT win the popular vote, meaning Hillary actually got more votes than he did. And for you to deny there has been very hateful things written and said about Obama is truly mind-blowing. Talk about gaslighting history. And the refusal of Republicans to do their job and hold hearings for Obama's supreme court nominee, saying the public should be given a voice. The public was given a voice and elected Obama from Jan 2013 until Jan 2017 -- he was NOT a lame duck president until yesterday. If they hadn't been the big babies they are, Garland would and should have had hearings back in March when he was nominated. Americans may think their politics is to be commended by the rest of the world, just know that the world is not commending the childish games the Republicans have been playing since Obama became President. The minute McConnell stated the only focus of the Republicans would be to stop Obama from doing anything, he should have been tossed out of Congress and charged with treason. But I guess treason only applies to Democrats? I could not be paid enough to be an American right now. Good luck with your country now going back to the 1950s.
Admin, Now that the election is over, I'm begging you to please reinstate the ban on political comments. Some of the comments since the election have felt more angry and hate filled than they did prior to election day and it's feeling more uncomfortable here than ever. Nothing will be solved at this point by people trying to change others' minds.
Let's embrace the freedoms our Constitution guarantees us, be mindful of the fragile peace in many areas of our country and the world, and strive to find common ground to work together rather than look for and say things that will only divide us.
Kate Plus 8 finally made it onto my Time Warner cable upcoming show listing for Nov 22. It sounds like an exciting and interesting episode. NOT
"Kate looks back on their first television special and compares the challenges then to the ones the family faces now."
It sounds like it's another opportunity for TFW to try to convince viewers how hard she had it raising 8 kids (all alone, you know) and how she's learned from her mistakes (overreacting, stressing, being a momster) and that she is a changed but better person now. Uh, huh, sure. But, OMG, TLC, how many times have they used this same storyline? B.O.R.I.N.G. Whether it's been 10 years or 1, it's the same 'ole crap and everyone has seen and heard it before.
@SO Glad NOT To Be American said... 4 Well said and thank you. @ Mel, I agree as well.
As far as comparing what Obama did during Ferguson and what Trump is doing now?
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!
There it is, the delusions of a conspiracy. Like you all said "he won" so get on with it Trump. It went his way, so it was fair. Had it not, it's a sham.
The only thing I wish she had done differently is divorce her husband. It's been clear for many years that the relationship, probably from both sides, has been based on what looks like cold-blooded pragmatism, with the "close-knit family" aspect only being trotted out for the cameras and sound-bites. I think she would have garnered more respect had she set out on her own after they left the White House. I know I would have viewed her quite differently. Her mistake was thinking she needed Bill to help her shatter the glass ceiling. I think he and his shadow prevented her from doing so. ************************* I agree
I live in the South with a lot of religious conservatives, and I've seen plenty of awful things about Obama on Facebook while he was President. In my opinion, they voted for Trump because of hate for Hillary and not because of how great Trump is. ********************* A lot of protest votes in my opinion got him elected. And like SO GLAD NOT to be American pointed out, it's the Electoral College that got him in, the same institution Trump has insinuated is a sham. Not so much now. Even his tweet about these latest protests is so childish. "NOT FAIR!" nobody taking away his iphone now?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago Love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud! ****************** Good Lord, talk about flip flopping
Vanessa said... 7 I said she should be allowed to be pardoned and move on. ********************** Pardon what though? She hasn't been convicted of anything. _____
"Pardon" isn't really the right word. What they're talking about is giving her blanket immunity from prosecution. I don't know whether they're just talking about e-mails or whether it would cover any other matters that might come to light.
Admin, Now that the election is over, I'm begging you to please reinstate the ban on political comments. Some of the comments since the election have felt more angry and hate filled than they did prior to election day and it's feeling more uncomfortable here than ever. Nothing will be solved at this point by people trying to change others' minds.
Let's embrace the freedoms our Constitution guarantees us, be mindful of the fragile peace in many areas of our country and the world, and strive to find common ground to work together rather than look for and say things that will only divide us.
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Agreed, it's time. I'm really disappointed people can't have respect for this result and move forward as I would have were Hillary elected, and I fully thought she would be. I forgot if it was here or somewhere else, but someone said, now you know how I felt when Obama was elected, stinky feeling, right?!--except, I didn't throw a hissy fit.
To clarify though, IF Kate herself says anything about it or if there's any possibility at all she's going to see or tweet Trump or any other thing about this that involves Kate (like, for instance, Apprentice people being invited to the WH), we can discuss that. Thank you everyone.
@Admin -- Hillary actually won the popular vote. In most (if not all other) democracies, that is how you win the election.
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This is just a general comment about the electoral college, I promise, but please look at the purpose behind the electoral college. If we get rid of the electoral college, candidates will campaign in New York and Los Angeles and a couple other populated cities, and win. There would be no reason to bother with New Hampshire, no reason to bother with Iowa, no reason to bother with Nevada. Anyone from those states? And how do you feel about not mattering anymore?
That is very, very unfair to the rest of the people of this country, who each candidate should have to work hard for to get a huge cross section of votes. Under the electoral college system, it wasn't enough for Trump to just win the religious right south, he had to win a wide cross section of states from all parts of the country, from all kinds of different Americans. This is why our campaign trail is so grueling, because you really do need to hit every state. A state like West Virginia could mean the win, as it did for Bush 2. You would skip West Virginia all together under a popular vote system.
The electoral college requires candidates to campaign almost everywhere. This is better on so many levels because it requires candidates to listen to the needs of (JOBS: Hillary's fatal flaw) and appeal to a broad cross section of people. Yes, it comes down to swing states, but swing states are always changing. (See, Texas.)
Even though I live in Los Angeles, I sure as hell don't want Los Angeles always being the one to elect our president. It's patently unfair.
Whatever any candidate has said, I am 100%, beyond measure, supportive of the electoral college, even if the popular vote elects someone else. I don't much care what the popular vote says, because Los Angeles doesn't get to elect every president here. Our forefathers studied many other democracies in fashioning ours, and discovered that "pure" democracies eventually crumble and fail. Democracies with safeguards like an electoral college in place stay strong. An explanation I have heard of it, is that under a pure democracy with a popular vote, the wolves will always be able to eat the sheep, and the sheep never get a chance to be heard.
I should say, that in much less populated and less diverse countries like Canada, this problem is not as prevalent, and an electoral college may not be necessary to ensure all parts of the country are heard. But your comparing apples and oranges.
I am PROUD to be an American this week, and deeply insulted and disappointed at the lashing out about this great country because people did not get their way. This is PART of democracy, sometimes, you don't get your way. Not getting your way makes our democracy better and stronger, because it forces you to go back to the drawing board and figure out where and what went wrong. Without the electoral college, the democrats will never have to figure out why Pennsylvania, Florida, the rust belt, all turned on them this year. Don't you think they owe it to those people to figure it out? Under popular vote, they never need bother.
Another comment about the electoral college, is it was also designed to make sure that the majority did not always crush the minority--without many checks and balances in place first to ensure the minority was heard.
And that was a huge problem in Nazi Germany, since the "majority" really did crush the minority and there was nothing at all the minority could do about it. So when people throw out alarmist bells about fascism and so forth, I would say the EC was designed to prevent just that by ensuring everyone gets heard and has to be courted, not just the cult wave rushing through.
If Hitler had an electoral college in place, he probably wouldn't have been elected.
She doesn't seem much interested in ANYTHING. She seems totally detached from the world.
After 10 years, I still don't know what her passions are, what motivates her, what inspires her. Kids and travel don't count. Most everybody likes kids and travel.
I that there are many movers and shakers that will be vying for an invite to the inaugural ball and TFW is not at the top of his list. And yes, some of them may even have been on Celebrity Apprentice, but again, I doubt that TFW is at the top of that list either.
Happy Veyeran's Day to all who served and to us, the family members, who supported them every step of the way.
@FlimsyFlamsy Heck,even Milo doesn't seem to be promoting it at all either,which is odd.When the last couple of episodes got airdates,i remember Milo immediately went into promoting mode.
So she claims Leah posted her a "love" note on the outside of #Nookie's cage. Note how she points out the kids are NOT going to Jon's.
The note: "Dear Mommy I love you be safe while I'm gone --Leah" No punctuation? What grade are the tups in now? And where was she when they were leaving?
kateplusmy8 When your children leave you love notes (before leaving for an overnight school trip) and know just where to put it so you see it the second you get home!😉 #Leah #Nanuq
Be safe while I'm gone?? That's an extremely odd thing for a 12 year old to say to an adult. These kids really have taken on a parental role with her, she's that mentally ill. These kids are so incredibly parentified and are going to need a mountain of therapy to ever recover.
miloandjack2016 #Priceless! We know who Leah learned that from! Her doting #LoveMyKidsToTheMoonAndBack MOM! ❤ And she knows you well...of course, you would seek out #Nanuq asap when you got home! @kateplusmy8
Admin (#25), you beat me to it. Those children are clearly parentified, and TFW is too dense to know we pick up on it when she posts things like that. She seems to want to brag about how much they love her, but she often exposes a dark side of their relationship. She can talk until she's blue in the face about alleged "inappropriate" things between her children and their father, but we have seen and heard things between her and the kids that are very alarming, IMHO.
Why in the world should a 12-year-old be concerned that her mother is safe? If TFW was ill, or facing some huge personal struggle, that concern might be warranted. But a kid about to have a fun trip should not be taking on her mother's well being as a burden.
And of course Milo has to be a butt kisser and once again thinks Kate uploading something makes it true and everyone is wrong miloandjack2016 This debunks #TrashyTabloid lies that tell tales of discord in your hm. Proof positive here that you have instilled LOVE & need to care for one another in your kids. I would imagine #Leah is NOT the only child that does this? @kateplusmy8
Abused children even emotionally abused children almost always love their parents, even adore them. They are dismayed to go into foster care. For better or worse this is what they know. It is not uncommon at all for an abused child to write a parent a letter telling them how much they love them and want to go home. It has no value to me in court, I know they love their parents. It does not disprove the abuse. When I see a child who doesn't want to go home it's often a red flag they might be making the abuse up. You also have to keep in mind that just because there is some abuse going on, there are also often many more moments of happy, non-abusive times. I'm sure there are periods of calm and happiness in that house when Kate is not upset.
Milo has no understanding of child psychology or how what Kate has done to them really plays out for a child. None.
It's not hard to figure out how Leah got to the point of concerned over her mother's safety. She is processing events like Kate throwing fits outside Jon's residence. She is processing Kate's instability and manic behavior. She knows, deep down, there's safety issues here and it comes out in that note.
I should say, that in much less populated and less diverse countries like Canada, this problem is not as prevalent, and an electoral college may not be necessary to ensure all parts of the country are heard.
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Oh my goodness, Admin. I was going to keep my opinion to myself because, after all, it was not my horse race. However, I feel I need to tell you that Canada is more diverse than you imagine. Way more. We do not have an electoral college because we have a parliamentary system. Our prime minister is not elected directly, but rather is the leader of the party with the most elected members.
Currently we have five different parties represented in parliament and they cover a wide range of political and geographical points of view. And yes, passions often run high, but in the main we don't abandon all civility. A withering retort with wit is much preferred to shouting, although unfortunately there is shouting, too. As I said, there are many points of view on any subject you can mention.
Gladys says any rumors about discord at Gosselin Manor is the just the #TrashyTabloids spreading lies. So when we saw that picture of TFW lifting that same daughter's dress and smacking her behind, she was...what, Gladys? Killing a bee? Putting out a fire? Using her child's behind as a percussion instrument for a family sing-along?
The only thing that note is "proof positive" of is that these poor children continue to be emotionally manipulated by their mother. And she's disturbed enough to take pride in it.
Oh my goodness, Admin. I was going to keep my opinion to myself because, after all, it was not my horse race. However, I feel I need to tell you that Canada is more diverse than you imagine. Way more. We do not have an electoral college because we have a parliamentary system. Our prime minister is not elected directly, but rather is the leader of the party with the most elected members.
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Oh yes I know. Which is why it's all the more head scratching why some Canadians are lecturing Americans on the superiority of a popular vote.
Sorry, I don't want New York and California to elect our president every time. I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand how horrible that would be. Democrats need to stop whining about the perfectly reasonable system that kicked them out of office, and figure out how to coalition build and get the electoral votes they need to win next time. Move forward, figure this out, change for the better. It's as simple as that. We get rid of the electoral college now and they will never ever have to figure out why they lost this year. Be honest, that's not right.
On another note, both candidates understood they'd have to get the electoral college. These are the rules they agreed to. If they don't like those rules they don't have to run. I've never seen such sour grapes from people who *agreed* to all this beforehand. Astounding.
NJGal51 said... 19 I that there are many movers and shakers that will be vying for an invite to the inaugural ball and TFW is not at the top of his list. And yes, some of them may even have been on Celebrity Apprentice, but again, I doubt that TFW is at the top of that list either. ****** I'm betting Kate will be at ONE of the balls. There are many. I've never had the urge to attend one. It's a bunch of people stuffed into a ballroom, eating rubber chicken and drinking rail liquor. Unless you're at the top couple galas, it's crap.
85% of Canada is white so that's what I meant by not very diverse. Ideas wise and so forth I'm sure someone living in the Yukon lives very differently than someone in Toronto. That being said do you think Toronto should always be able to elect the leaders, and the Yukon never has a prayer of being heard? Under a popular vote system that's exactly what would happen. If you elected a president like we did I'd recommend an electoral college for you too so you're not one nation under Toronto.
This is just a general comment about the electoral college, I promise, but please look at the purpose behind the electoral college. ****** Excellent tutorial. Thank you. All we heard about was Hillary's "path to victory" and all the states that were "baked in the cake". No one was complaining how unfair it was that Hillary's path seemed preordained. She had it. She had the path to 270. I almost didn't bother watching to election results because, eh, I knew the outcome. And then the unthinkable happened. Yes, it is remarkable and the people protesting should look at other countries where aristocracy rules, and dictators shoot you if you disagree (see N. Korea) or, what we have many people demanding now, an epistocracy. Yeah, look that one up. It's scary. And undemocratic. And people who are upset Hillary didn't win are certain that we shouldn't allow the uneducated, unwashed masses to have a say in our government. Protesting is American. Rioting in the streets because you're candidate didn't win is uncivil, anarchist, and unAmerican.
It's funny how Milo tries to lead Kate into additional revelations, "I would imagine #Leah is NOT the only child that does this?" OMG, the uppercase "NOT"! Come on, Kate, you surely must have tons of notes like this from all of your kids, so why dontcha post 'em? As if that's going to make the #TrahsyTabloid lies somehow less true?
We've seen the journal, we've seen the police reports, Milo, and we're not buying what Kate's selling. Capeesh?
Yeah, look that one up. It's scary. And undemocratic. And people who are upset Hillary didn't win are certain that we shouldn't allow the uneducated, unwashed masses to have a say in our government.
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Paternalistic, pretty much.
And, the undertone here is that middle America shouldn't be able to tell us who are president is. Well, they just did. And why shouldn't they? Why shouldn't the candidate have to go around to every blue collar, low income city they can find, listen to what they want and need, and deliver? Why are these people any less American than someone from New York, Chicago, or LA? A popular vote virtually ensures these people will never be heard again, and no campaign will ever bother to go to their city and eat their BBQ again because why waste the time. And ironically, THAT is when things like fascism happen, when the real heart of a country is suppressed and unheard.
Trump actually did quite well with women, quite well with the educated. In fact, more non-minority women voted for him than Hillary! That is NOT what was predicted. (I'm guessing women especially felt shamed into not following the media mantra that Trump is anti-woman, and didn't want to admit their true vote) This was nothing like the low numbers the media predicted. He did very well with the uneducated. The uneducated didn't vote for him because they're "stupid". They voted for him because they're struggling and want something better.
The tone from all the sour grapes is, how dare the heart of America tell us who our president is, they don't know what they're doing. It's very unfortunate and arrogant.
Tucker's Mom 38...Rioting in the streets because you're candidate didn't win is uncivil, anarchist, and unAmerican. ************************************************** You forgot incredibly, incredibly immature
Can you imagine if Jon posted personal notes from his kids, professing their love for him? They'd say he's a needy, pathetic loser, and would shame him for violating their privacy.
A withering retort with wit is much preferred to shouting, although unfortunately there is shouting, too ***** I got a kick out of watching Britain's PM in Parliament her first session. They really know how to give the backhanded compliments!
jpjt94@Miloandjack2016 Yeah because Kate saying it makes it true LMAO
miloandjack2016 Sad that you @jpjt94 come here to cast shade on a heart warming moment for @kateplusmy8 . No reason on earth for Kate to make this up! Nice that she even shares these small glimpses of her life. I see this pic as a #FamilyPositive and an #Affirmation that Kate is doing alot of things RIGHT in raising her kids! #GoodParenting. ❤
"Nice that she even shares these small glimpses of her life"?! What about a frickin' TV show? A national magazine cover story? Over and over and over again. I don't think anyone needs any more "small glimpses" of her life. And it's not just her life, it's her kids' lives as well. Stop promoting the child exploitation, Milo, you are coming across as a total sicko.
It's funny how Milo tries to lead Kate into additional revelations, "I would imagine #Leah is NOT the only child that does this?" OMG, the uppercase "NOT"! Come on, Kate, you surely must have tons of notes like this from all of your kids, so why dontcha post 'em? As if that's going to make the #TrahsyTabloid lies somehow less true?
****** Milo tries so hard to direct the narrative!
tunanoodlecasserole85Milo, you are ridiculous. Not only our stupid hashtags and trying to seem hip with using terms like 'casting shade' but your constant defense of Kate. This note was meant for Kate, not the world. Do you think Leah wrote that note so that it would be posted on instagram?
WTF?When were Milo and Kate really friends?These fans are so insane if they really believe Kate and them actually know each other. carleneigras1 @tunanoodlecasserole85 Milo is not being ridiculous. Just being supportive and kind to her friend. Something you could learn from perhaps.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 50 Once you've installed permanent TV lighting in your house for ease of filming, you've blown the "small glimpses" illusion all to hell. ******* We should start a "Once you..." meme.
Once you write a book of letters to your children and take it to a major publisher, there are no more small glimpses. Once you film your kids on the potty, with their pants down around their ankles, there are no more small glimpses.
Has anyone considered that this note may not have even been written by Leah? What, because Kate said so. Well, for me, that's no proof at all. It seemed a little unlike how a child would express themselves, oh heck, it seemed a lot like that.
While TFW was busy posting yet another puppy picture with a note from one of the kids telling TFW how much she loves her, Jon posted a thank you to all the Veterians. Which was more appropriate Milo. And BTW, who here believes that the puppy wouldn't have tried to get that note and rip it up? I know mine would have because it's, well, PAPER and that's just about the best thing in the world. Also, we now know that she kennels them and I'm thinking that they spend a good bit of time in there.
And BTW, who here believes that the puppy wouldn't have tried to get that note and rip it up? I know mine would have because it's, well, PAPER and that's just about the best thing in the world. Also, we now know that she kennels them and I'm thinking that they spend a good bit of time in there. ******* There are also a few toys in there which should never, ever be left in a crate with the dog in there. It's astounding how clueless Kate is, and even more amazing her dogs, and kids, survive her. She always likes to bloviate about how amazing it is that SHE has survived all these years. It think it's the other way around.
They're not suckling at the teat. They should long be housebroken by now and old enough to be trusted to sleep on their beds and not destroy anything while you leave the house for a couple hours.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 36 Pym, your pm is dreamy by the way. Yowser. ___________________________________________
He may be dreamy but trust me when I say he is a spoiled silver spoon idiot and he was voted in because eastern Canada has the population out west we did not vote Liberal!! Our system has it's flaws as well :(
Has anybody seen ads on TLC or Investigation Discovery for K+8? I have been watching A Haunting, and they have had many ads for Outdaughtered, a couple for LPBW, also some for 90-Day Fiance and Married By Mom and Dad--but no K+8. My DIL loves Say Yes To The Dress, and watches it all the time, and she says she has not seem a single mention of K+8. How very interesting!
He may be dreamy but trust me when I say he is a spoiled silver spoon idiot and he was voted in because eastern Canada has the population out west we did not vote Liberal!! Our system has it's flaws as well :(
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I don't know much about him other than those blue eyes.
The electoral college is a near perfect system. It's allowed a pretty fair chance for both parties to be in power and it more or less has gone back and forth between the parties for decades. It requires winners to build support in rural areas, cities, and all parts of the country. One game plan doesn't work, you need several.
Get rid of it and we'll be just like Canada, with the east and left/west coast electing a Democrat every.single.time. The midwest, the south, rural areas in general, and especially rural areas in liberal states, will never be heard from again while the coasts dictate who will lead the whole country every time. I have to just shake my head that anyone thinks the popular vote is a good idea.
On another note, we COULD do it one vote per state. That way, a Republican gets elected every time because they always win more states, state by state. Would you like that?
Again the EC allows both Dems and Republicans to have a fair shot at the presidency if they are able to build a large cross section of support. It is the fairest thing we know out there. Far superior to one vote per state, which elects a Rep. every time, far superior to popular vote, which is almost always going to favor Dems.
People just don't like it because their candidate didn't win, without actually considering what it does to prevent absolute disaster in a country this size. The EC was DESIGNED to prevent people like Hillary from taking office just because they managed to build a couple pockets of support in concentrated areas. Look at the red and blue map. The small amount of blue is startling. Geography wise, Trump blew her out of the water. This is exactly the scenario the EC was for. Well done, founding fathers.
Has anybody seen ads on TLC or Investigation Discovery for K+8? I have been watching A Haunting, and they have had many ads for Outdaughtered,
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I haven't been watching TLC at all but I am seeing their ads on other networks. I couldn't tell you what network I was watching, but I hear a lot of Outdaughtered adds. No Kate ones.
I wanted to say, the Outdaughtered marketing is taking a page straight from the Gosselins. Chaos, screaming, disorganization! babies everywhere!
Layla said... 60 Has anybody seen ads on TLC or Investigation Discovery for K+8? I have been watching A Haunting, and they have had many ads for Outdaughtered, a couple for LPBW, also some for 90-Day Fiance and Married By Mom and Dad--but no K+8. My DIL loves Say Yes To The Dress, and watches it all the time, and she says she has not seem a single mention of K+8. How very interesting! November 11, 2016 at 4:43 PM ****** With so little fanfare from Kate and really very little responses of enthusiasm about her show returning, I've begun to wonder if this season is her last. How she ever kept TLC filming with Colin being sent away and the domestic discord with Jon, with those sensational allegations, it's beyond my comprehension. With just those two things that we have no doubt occurred. I can't believe TLC would continue using these kids for profit.
As a Canadian I never truly understood the Electoral College system until this election. I think they taught it in high school but who remembers that lol. So if nothing else I now understand your system and find it fascinating I will admit I stayed up until 1:30am mst waiting for a decision then just couldn't do it anymore. My husband who has never been the least bit interested in politics was glued to the tv so I guess your election garnered a huge amount of interest not just in the US but internationally as well. I think the next 4 years are going to be extremely interesting for all...
As a Canadian I never truly understood the Electoral College system until this election. I think they taught it in high school but who remembers that lol. So if nothing else I now understand your system and find it fascinating I will admit I stayed up until 1:30am mst waiting for a decision then just couldn't do it anymore. My husband who has never been the least bit interested in politics was glued to the tv so I guess your election garnered a huge amount of interest not just in the US but internationally as well. I think the next 4 years are going to be extremely interesting for all...
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I don't think it's proponents do a good job of explaining its benefits. It HAS to be explained to people how it forces candidates to talk to, and court, all different kinds of Americans, not just city folk or high density areas. I think if people understood it that way, there would be a lot less whining about a popular vote system. People would understand why it's fine just the way it is.
Lots of ads for Outdaughtered. I noticed that they have marathons of the show on Monday and Tuesday. Looks like the Busbys are TLC's new darlings.
They are also pushing the Married By Mom and Dad and Sister Wives, both premiering on the 27th. Nothing at all for K+8, even though they premier on the 22nd.
I can't wait to see Milo scrambling to excuse all of Kate's bad behavior. Will she blame editing? Stress? Jon? She appears to be getting an early start in controlling the narrative, but it won't be so easy if TLC is throwing Kate to the wolves like they did in the RV episodes. And, of course, Milo will have to work hard to find someone else to blame for ratings. If this season drops below 1M, will the show be over? How low will this season's ratings go? Can't wait to see!
**Fun fact: I went back and looked, and the highest-rated show of last season got almost the exact same number of viewers as the lowest-rated show from the season before it.
It's always somebody else's fault. I'm surprised Jon didn't get blamed:
Clinton aide’s bizarre explanation for Hillary’s humiliating loss
"It’s all James Comey’s fault.
Navin Nayak, head of the Hillary Clinton campaign’s research division, wrote in an email to senior campaign staff that the FBI director’s second letter absolving the former secretary of state a couple days before the election actually aided Donald Trump.
“We believe that we lost this election in the last week. Comey’s letter in the last 11 days of the election both helped depress our turnout and also drove away some of our critical support among college-educated white voters — particularly in the suburbs,” she wrote, according to Politico.
“We also think Comey’s 2nd letter, which was intended to absolve Sec. Clinton, actually helped to bolster Trump’s turnout.”
Clinton was set to win up until the last week of the election, according to Nayak.
“Voters who decided in the last week broke for Trump by a larger margin…,” she explained. “These numbers were even more exaggerated in the key battleground states.”
The FBI chief issued two bombshell letters to Congress right before the election. The first disclosed that agents had seized a laptop shared by Clinton aide Huma Abedin and her husband, Anthony Weiner, that contained more than 600,000 emails related to its investigation of Clinton’s private email server.
Several days later, Comey issued a second letter saying the FBI had analyzed the new materials and hadn’t changed its conclusion that there was no reason to prosecute Clinton.
Nayak said the second letter “energized Trump supporters.”
She also noted that after record early voting numbers, there was a significant drop in turnout in cities like Philadelphia, Raleigh-Durham, Milwaukee and Detroit when the first letter became public.
“In the end, late breaking developments in the race proved one hurdle too many for us to overcome,” Nayak said."
Nancy said... 68 OMG Please take him he's all yours you already graciously adopted Justin Bieber so you guys apparently like the name ;) #################
Well Nancy, I'll agree with you about Bieber, but , (Canadian way here) so sorry, Trudeau was my choice this last election. We'll see if that was a mistake or not, but Harper's time was up...sorry again IMO of course...sorry.
I can't wait to see Milo scrambling to excuse all of Kate's bad behavior. Will she blame editing? Stress? Jon? She appears to be getting an early start in controlling the narrative, but it won't be so easy if TLC is throwing Kate to the wolves like they did in the RV episodes. And, of course, Milo will have to work hard to find someone else to blame for ratings. If this season drops below 1M, will the show be over? How low will this season's ratings go? Can't wait to see!
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It will be Jeff's fault, and Kate sank into depression after the break-up and his engagement to someone else. Her broken heart has not yet been mended. Sing it, Milo.
"And how can you mend a broken heart? How can you stop the rain from falling down? How can you stop the sun from shining? What makes the world go round?"
Tucker's Mom said... 51 FlimsyFlamsy said... 50 Once you've installed permanent TV lighting in your house for ease of filming, you've blown the "small glimpses" illusion all to hell. ******* We should start a "Once you..." meme.
Once you write a book of letters to your children and take it to a major publisher, there are no more small glimpses. Once you film your kids on the potty, with their pants down around their ankles, there are no more small glimpses.
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Let's put a Jeff Foxworthy spin on it.
If you throw your toddler into his crib and beat him with a wooden spoon, you might be a Kate Gosselin.
If you hate your ex more than you love your kids, you might be a Kate Gosselin.
Nancy said... 68 OMG Please take him he's all yours you already graciously adopted Justin Bieber so you guys apparently like the name ;) #################
Well Nancy, I'll agree with you about Bieber, but , (Canadian way here) so sorry, Trudeau was my choice this last election. We'll see if that was a mistake or not, but Harper's time was up...sorry again IMO of course...sorry. _______________________________________
LMAO you are perpetrating the we always say sorry eh myth ;} I am also living with the NPD nightmare living the dream at the moment lol
I can only believe this is some sort of legal gambit, not that he really believes he'll ever again be paid for "entertaining" anyone.
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Did you see his latest defense? That he's "legally blind" and therefore can't take a look at his accusers in order to defend himself. Not only does that make no sense on so many different levels, but, wth? So now blind people can't be convicted of anything? Lol.
I DVR'd a ton of election coverage on CNN and MSNBC, and kept seeing nothing but Outdaughtered spots as I scanned through the commercials. Poor Schmoopie.
I do have a feeling all the Celebrity Apprentice alumni will be invited to one of the inaugural balls. Ooh, how about another Say Yes To The Dress crossover episode? This time with TFW and her, um, good bra?
Fleecing (73) I hadn't thought of Jeff! But… Kate claims there was never a relationship, so maybe Vann would be a better man to blame. Milo can claim that Kate, having only been on half a date in 7 years, was so devastated that Vann wasn't interested in her that she sank into a deep depression that could only be relieved by shrieking at her kids like a banshee (A little trivia: a banshee, in Welsh folklore, is also referred to as "the hag in the mist". That fits.)
I do have a feeling all the Celebrity Apprentice alumni will be invited to one of the inaugural balls.
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After all those seasons there's a LOT of them! And, a few of them really trashed him, so I don't know if they'll get an invite. I didn't realize though there's lots of balls so maybe they'll go to the D-lister lesser balls.
I do think though that some of his favorites will get invited to the best balls. Someone mentioned Leeza--for sure. Had Kate made more of an effort to keep up the relationship, she probably would have gotten an invite too.
jbnicholss still super excited that i got to drive by your house today😍
Well, I guess driving by the house is the next best thing to meeting K8 and her kids. She never even answered this young woman, doesn't that bother her in the slightest?
Nancy - I am out west, and voted Trudeau (and have always voted Liberal). Not all AB's or westerners loved Harper. And the only reason there is an NDP "nightmare", is because the the previous 40+ years of PC rule.
LOL - sorry all who don't know Canadian politics. See we can have "heated" discussions as well! ; )
I do think though that some of his favorites will get invited to the best balls. Someone mentioned Leeza--for sure. Had Kate made more of an effort to keep up the relationship, she probably would have gotten an invite too.
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It was me!
I still cringe when TFW ran out and hugged Leeza before Leeza's husband could get to her and he stood back and quietly waited until TFW thought it was OK for him to come and hug her. The way TFW waved at L's husband to come over was infuriating.
Gladys says any rumors about discord at Gosselin Manor is the just the #TrashyTabloids spreading lies. So when we saw that picture of TFW lifting that same daughter's dress and smacking her behind, she was...what, Gladys? Killing a bee? Putting out a fire? Using her child's behind as a percussion instrument for a family sing-along?
The only thing that note is "proof positive" of is that these poor children continue to be emotionally manipulated by their mother. And she's disturbed enough to take pride in it
And I could tell you stories about Bill that would not shock any of you, as a young Democrat in this state that are as true as true can be. The Old Post Office disco, lots and lots of cocaine and if anyone was grabbing p***y, well, let's just say, I give you one guess.
I have read this blog for years but rarely comment. I just have a quick comment on the election results and the opinion of some in this country that the uneducated, racist etc, etc blue collar workers made a mistake in the way they voted.
I currently live in a red, fly over state. I was born and raised in another red, fly over state! I did not vote for Trump. Honestly, he scares me. However, many of my family did. I don't understand all of their reasons but it is NOT because they are racist and ignorant! There were six of us. We are a farm family from a small town. All six of us have - at minimum- a 4 year college degree and many of us have a Master's degree. All of our spouses have college degrees. My immediate family (siblings, spouses, nieces, nephews) include 1 MD, 2 lawyers, nurses, teachers, social workers accountant, and yes, farmers, among others. My oldest nephew applied to colleges like MIT and graduated from Cal Tech. They are all good-hearted, hard working, intelligent people. Growing up my parents didn't tolerate treating anyone poorly- it didn't matter what their religion, race or political opinion.
Personally, I was not happy with the election results but I hate the way Trump's voters are being portrayed. Most of them are just like my family who are struggling to make a living with many of the current policies in place.
While TFW was busy posting yet another puppy picture with a note from one of the kids telling TFW how much she loves her, Jon posted a thank you to all the Veterians. Which was more appropriate Milo. And BTW, who here believes that the puppy wouldn't have tried to get that note and rip it up? I know mine would have because it's, well, PAPER and that's just about the best thing in the world. Also, we now know that she kennels them and I'm thinking that they spend a good bit of time in there. oooooooooooooooooooooo
Not one thing wrong with kenneling dogs. So stop making it sound like these puppies live 24/7 in them. They clearly don't.
They're not suckling at the teat. They should long be housebroken by now and old enough to be trusted to sleep on their beds and not destroy anything while you leave the house for a couple hours.
Poor training
Not even close. I still kennel my almost 1.5 year old. She likes her kennel, and when I get ready to leave her out for a walk over to the neighbors she kennels up. We will get there, when she is ready. Why set up a PUPPY for a disaster. No way I would leave a German Shep pup in the house alone, or 2. Lawd no.
I wanted to say, the Outdaughtered marketing is taking a page straight from the Gosselins. Chaos, screaming, disorganization! babies everywhere!
--------- Buzz is taking his media tour very seriously. Discussing dressing 6 kids for multiple photo shoots per day and the need for several different outfits per day. He posted a pic and received flack at the abundance of clothing per kid. Can't have them photographed in the same thing twice. Nightline is following them the entire 6 days in NYC. Poor babies. 6 days out of their routine certainly seems not in THEIR best interests.
And the poor Gardner family has admitted to filming Rattled again, but that is just a bit show. They are also hitting their youtuber followers up not so subtly to subscribe and read their blogs and buy Ashley's makeup, blankets and all the other stuff mentioned in their vlogs. I think I'd like a youtube channel. Seems like easy money.
Vee, I have never kenneled my dogs. I left them every day when I went to work, they had free run of the house and never, NEVER was there a problem. They never got into trash, chewed furniture, went to the bathroom in the house. Maybe I've been lucky. If I felt I needed to put my dog in a crate, well I wouldn't get a dog. To each his own.
Sad but true (#81), why would TFW have remorse about ignoring the mediocre? They're mediocre!
But imagine if that same woman had tweeted that she had 8 free passes for Hershey Park for this weekend and wanted to gift TFW and the 7 kids with them. Something tells me that would've pinged TFW's radar.
Deliverance, my experience is similar to yours. I have never crated any of our pets. We do have a "quiet space" tucked into our bedroom corner. Annie can retreat there whenever she wants to be alone.
Maybe I have been fortunate. I haven't had a couch chewed up. Our Min Pins have been easy to house train. In Illinois we had a doggie door. Here in Texas, there is a puppy pad for emergencies or when we aren't home for several hours. Annie much prefers to go outside and lets us know when she needs to.
Years ago, I had an adopted Greyhound. I suspect he lived 98% of his time in a crate before coming to my home. I could not do that to him again. He loved following the sun spots around the house for his naps.
I have a neighbor who crates her small dog. Seems to work in their home. I would think that it might confuse the dog because the crate is used for punishment (i.e. dog broke the rule and jumped up on the couch) and for his sleeping place.
I'm sorry that you took exception to my post Vee but I didn't say anything about THW's puppies being kenneled 24/7. All I said was they probably spent a good bit of time in there. Why did I say this? Because from her previous posts it seems like the golden child puppy has the run of the house. Also, that whole thing with the note, if my guy finds even a scrap of paper he's in heaven and he would have found a way to rip that note through the bars. I've never kenneled my bulldogs. They always pick a quiet spot and go there when they want to chill. We take our bullies with us when we travel and never once have we had a problem with chewing or accidents in hotel rooms. My puppy was born the day after hers and unless we're going to be gone for hours, he's got the run of the house and he hasn't chewed anything up (yet). During potty training he was blocked off in the kitchen and breakfast nook area and that's where we put him if we're going to be gone for an extended period of time. At 6 1/2 months my puppy can "hold it" until we get home and hasn't had an "accident" in the house for ages. Even when he was on medication that made him go more than normal he let us know when he wanted to go out. No, he's not a perfect puppy and he does have his moments and probably will, at some point, chew something he shouldn't.
If she kennels, she kennels, but if she's going to continue to kennel she probably needs to get a bigger one because when the dog is sitting in it and her ears hit the top of the cage the kennel is probably too small.
We'll have to agree to disagree on crates. The purpose of crate training was actually not to prevent your house from being destroyed--they assumed you can train your dog not to do that. What the purpose was, is potty training. For the dog to develop an understanding of what it means to "hold it" while you were gone, since most dogs won't soil their crates out of instinct. Once they develop an understanding of what bladder control is, they can be weaned off the crate, and it should only be necessary to use it if you're gone for longer than usual
Crate training for adult dogs and older puppies should be for:
Guests over at the house who don't like dogs Traveling with the dog Maintenance people in the house doing repairs who request you put the dog away. And, that's about it.
I have the crate out with the door OPEN, and he goes in and out as he likes for naps, and that's about it.
There is no reason to put an adult dog or even a 6 month old in a crate every time you leave the house. Take them to school and start teaching them how to behave themselves without being locked up in a jail. Dogs this age should not be destroying the house.
I'm wondering how much Zorro is out of his cage now that the puppies allegedly are running around the house. Is that bird confined to his cage all of the time or does she kennel the puppy when Zorro is on the loose?
I agree with admin. The idea of the crate is for housebreaking. Give a puppy too much room, and he will soil one area of the crate. It defeats the whole purpose of crating.
Good convo on crate training. I think it's an essential training element for socialization (not the exact word for it, but). The crate is helpful for housebreaking, and essential, for me. Some kind of restriction is needed, and I think everyone here gets that. I also think the crate is good for other things, as Admin said, and I'll add that it helps to have the dog understand the concept of the crate if they are ever in a situation where you have no choice, like the vet or hospital. I also muzzle train so that in the case of injury, if my dog is in pain and panicked, I and everyone else can handle them safely. I don't want their first experience to be frightening. We have a crate for our lab and a pen for our bichon. I do crate them depending on the situation, like having work done in the house and people in and out with doors open etc. Our lab still likes to counter surf, so I have to be very careful! Otherwise, the dogs just hang out and I don't know, play poker or something. Maybe make crank phone calls and rearrange my sock drawer. All of our dogs have availed themselves of their crates at will, and that's exactly what you want to see happen. We also kennel/board them, but that's like sending your kids off to their favoritest camp ever at the facility we use. It's in the country with big play areas, walking trails, swimming and most of all, the most amazing owner and staff, whose lives are dogs.
Blowing In The Wind said... 95 I'm wondering how much Zorro is out of his cage now that the puppies allegedly are running around the house. ****** That's the thing. I would never trust 2 GSD puppies/youngsters unsupervised around Zorro. Their prey instinct could lead to them going after Zorro at any cost. They could easily jump up and knock his cage over, and maybe even get to him.
"And how can you mend a broken heart? How can you stop the rain from falling down? How can you stop the sun from shining? What makes the world go round?"
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Sing it, Milo.
Let me help you mend Your broken heart Let me breathe again
I'm wondering how much Zorro is out of his cage now that the puppies allegedly are running around the house. Is that bird confined to his cage all of the time or does she kennel the puppy when Zorro is on the loose?
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Is the bird still alive now that he's not her shiny new toy? She needs to post a daily photo with him holding up a copy of the current newspaper.
What are the non-fans tweeting about -- a school trip and Kate lying? The note doesn't say when the trip was taken, and there was an overnight trip earlier in the week.
Another look back? This is one of the most boring shows ever. Will Jon be alive in the 10 years ago stuff? Probably not. What has changed in 10 years? Virtually nothing. Kate can't pick them up to spank them any more. She's still a narcissist who yells and screams and has no love for her children.
P.S. I believe the note was written by Kate not Leah. She needs a little online love.
Tucker's Mom - Do you think the crate that the puppy was in is an appropriate size? I don't have experience with that but would think that if the sitting dog's ears touch to top enough to bend over and poke through the top a little it might be time for a new crate. As I said, I not have experience with crates so I could be wrong.
The closest thing of a mention to Zorro was when TFW got on Instagram and described her household and included her "feather kid." But maybe she just wanted to keep up the illusion of the menagerie, to go with the "chaotic fun" story line. Then again, calling the police on your ex 3 times seems like more than enough chaos.
All the golden platter adventures those kids have gotten will never erase the memories of the horrid way their mother treated their father.
It seems Leah did not write that note....notice the exclamation mark after the word safe and the line before Leah. It just does not sound like something a kid would write and thew hand writing looks like Kate's.
This note talk had me remembering an old J&K+8 episode. When TFW went to work at the dialysis clinic on a Saturday, and left a note for M and C asking them to obey Daddy and be helpful -- something like that.
But it suddenly made me wonder if TFW was really still working at the clinic, or if that was just fodder for an episode? After all that's happened, it's certainly easy to doubt things that were presented as facts on the show. We know there was still tons of help in the picture. So maybe TFW had already quit for good, and TLC just thought it would make an interesting show to have her away all day, and chaotic fun would ensue as Jon watched all 8 kids himself.
I am unreasonably looking forward to Admin's recaps of the new shows. That is, if she's still willing (*averts eyes humbly*) to write them for us!
PA Dutch Mom said... 100 What are the non-fans tweeting about -- a school trip and Kate lying? The note doesn't say when the trip was taken, and there was an overnight trip earlier in the week. ______
It just seems a bit odd to be posting that three days after you took a picture of it (the trip actually left on Tuesday, right?). Unless the picture was taken that morning (Friday), in which case, the note was on the crate for three days? That doesn't sound like Kate, and would the dogs really have left it alone all that time?
Nope, my money's on Kate staging the whole thing. Maybe she didn't write the note, but she sure didn't leave it stuck to that crate for three days. It was probably left elsewhere and she decided #NookiePookie would provide the perfect backdrop for such tender feelings. She makes it so easy not to believe her.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 108 This note talk had me remembering an old J&K+8 episode. When TFW went to work at the dialysis clinic on a Saturday, and left a note for M and C asking them to obey Daddy and be helpful -- something like that.
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Flimsy, IIRC, she went to the dialysis clinic and was doing something on the machine and she broke something on it and or did something wrong. I just can't believe a film crew would be allowed in to film!
HIPPA!!!
Unless they made special arrangements to ask the patients who wanted to. The tight schedule of the chair times, UGH!!! I just hope they heavily compensated the patients that were filmed without that greedy gripping about her being the only one being paid!
NJGal51 said... 104 Tucker's Mom - Do you think the crate that the puppy was in is an appropriate size? I don't have experience with that but would think that if the sitting dog's ears touch to top enough to bend over and poke through the top a little it might be time for a new crate. As I said, I not have experience with crates so I could be wrong. November 12, 2016 at 9:45 PM ***** The overall size is small and should be replaced with a larger crate. When you first crate train a puppy or dog who is also not house trained, it's important to not give them too much room, lest they have an area to urinate or defecate, and still be able to rest comfortably away from their business. A dog generally does not want to be dirty, or near their own urine and feces. This is why crates are so useful in potty training. When a dog is house broken, I think it's a good idea to provide a more spacious crate to allow comfortable movement. Crates should never nee too small for the dog or puppy to stand, sit or lay comfortably. My other concern is that like a baby's crib, no toys should be in there with them, ever. If the dog gets bored or anxious, it might chew and choke. We had adopted a lab mix who was very nervous left alone in her crate at first. She tore up a couple crate pads/beds, and we had to remove them until she got the notion that crates are good, comfy and a dog's safe place. I think crates are a great tool and have many uses but certainly don't need to be used unless necessary, if you want your dog to have free roam of the house.
Sad but true (#109), yes, TFW has herself to blame for our skepticism. She looked America in the eye and said by putting her family on TV, she made their lives our business. She has received countless benefits from celebrity -- money, popularity, job opportunities, trips, renovations, and on and on. That's why it's particularly annoying when Gladys jumps to her defense in response to people's criticism. As if TFW was some valiant, struggling single mom trying to make ends meet in the private sector, being harangued by the masses. TFW is a public figure who clearly relishes being a public figure when she's reaping the rewards of fame. Well, toots, you're not exempt from the downside of fame. No one is. And it's naive to think it's possible.
@FlimsyFlamsy (113) The thing that annoys me about Milo is that when Kate uploads one picture and claims so and so did this for her or when Kate said something.Milo jumps to the conclusion that this is without a doubt refutable proof that haters are wrong.To me,she sounds like she's so desperate and so insecure that she needs Kate to upload a picture or say somethin to prove haters wrong.We have seen her/him do this multiple times before.Sometimes even makes stuff up,like when Aaden and Alexis were in the basement,she claimed that this proves that haters are wrong about the kids not having friends.Even though no hater has ever claimed this.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 113 Sad but true (#109), yes, TFW has herself to blame for our skepticism. She looked America in the eye and said by putting her family on TV, she made their lives our business. ____
Not to mention, she's been caught out in lies so many times, you think she would have learned by now.
I was thinking about Milo and her devotion to Kate in this entire sad Gosselin saga. She reminds me of literature's Puck, a mischievous little jester who, if crossed, could turn on you in a heartbeat.
Or, if a stage show were produced, she would be the perfect Sancho Panza, following her master while Kate chases windmills. When asked why Milo does this, her reply would be...
"I like her, I really like her, Tear out my fingernails one by one, I like her, I don't have a very good reason Since I've been with her, cuckoo-nuts have been in season."
Kate's response:
"A little gossip, a little chat A little idle talk of this and that If no one listens then it's just as well At least I won't get caught in any lies I tell..."
Sorry, but my students are studying Cervantes right now, and Milo reminds me so much of Quixote's sidekick!
Jeanne (103): "P.S. I believe the note was written by Kate not Leah. She needs a little online love."
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Do you mean she's not getting any offline love from Vann the Mann?
What about Mrs. Gladys? I thought they shared their love in so many other ways! Is Kate singing, "I can't get no satisfaction 'cause I try and I try and I try."
Sorry, but my students are studying Cervantes right now, and Milo reminds me so much of Quixote's sidekick! ****** Great post! Yes, Kate and those windmills ;-)
"A little gossip, a little chat A little idle talk of this and that If no one listens then it's just as well At least I won't get caught in any lies I tell..."
_____________ Oh, yes! From Man of La Mancha. Perfect for Kate. It should be her theme song!
Aw, poor Kate, having to defend herself on her own IG. It's a crying shame.
desquitadomaureen83 Poor Nanuq. I hate seeing dogs in cages!! 😯
kateplusmy8 Well unfortunately when I am away, it's the safest place for my puppies! It makes me sad too but she willingly goes in sometimes 'just because'! Leah knew I'd go right to let her out which is why she put the note there 😉 @desquitadomaureen83
The Real Crime profile FBI folks have me pretty convinced someone in the house killed JonBenet, accidentally. Too many things would have had to come together for an outsider to do it.
I think they were good people who made some fateful decisions that night to cover it up in an effort to save what was left of the family, the living. We will never know for sure what happened in that house that night.
Of course you don't want LA being the one to elect the president, because your candidate would never win. It's not the 1800's. Candidates can get their message out to the entire country very easily.
One person, one vote is 100% fair. The Electoral College is an antiquated system that gives undue power to non-urban voters. You like that because that power rests in the hands of those who skew conservative. Just admit it and stop with the ridiculous "fairness" argument. California hasn't "mattered" in presidential campaigns for eons and yet we still manage to vote without whining about how nobody holds rallies regularly in our state.
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You lost. Move on. Hillary and Obama have to spend time out of their busy schedules tomorrow to address you, the whiners, because you won't move the F on and people are getting HURT.
I don't know when Kate actually stopped working at dialysis. I started dialysis there in May 2009 and she wasn't working there. I was then on home dialysis by the time they filmed the episode with Kate and the kids there. I would never have let them film at my chair. Dialysis is bad enough without a bunch of kids roaming around. But would any of us have been surprised if in the earlier episode they said she went to work but in reality she went to a spa or shopping? We have no reason to believe her twittersodes or Instagrasodes.
Also, all this "trump woulda lost if we had a popular vote" is utter nonsense. The fact is, we haven't the foggiest notion who would have won if it were a popular vote system. Trump didn't BOTHER to court the popular vote because Trump knew what rules he was playing under. Trump spent time in rural, low population areas in key swing states because he knew he needed a certain combination of electoral votes from those states. Had he been playing by a completely different set of rules he probably would have been able to make up the few popular votes he was shy. But, he didn't bother to court masses of votes because that.wasn't.the.rules. Hillary fans can't stand that it's clear in hindsight how brilliant his campaign was. They can't stand it.
He played by the rules given to him and won under those rules. Give him a different set and he may very well have won under those rules oto. In basketball, if the rules are I can only get points for 2 point shots, all I'm gonna take are 2 point shots. But then you turn around and say I lost the 3-point shot game? When really, you have no idea how many 3 pointers I would or wouldn't have made under such a system, because I never bothered to shoot them.
The paternalistic liberals would just LOVE to shut up all the rest of the red America and tell them how to think. Look at the county-by-county map. You can barely even see any blue on it. A "sea of red" even 60 Minutes admitted tonight. It's shocking. God, what awful, sore losers. This NEVER would have happened had Hillary won. We would have moved on the next day and got on with life just as we did under Obama. Unbelievable. Truly.
Democratic societies are not founded on majority rules. Go read the history books again. They are based on a BALANCE, where no majority can ever get too powerful without several layers of checks and balances. That means that sometimes the minority will win out. They are actually based on allowing EVERYONE to have a fair shot even if for example you live in a rural, low population area. They were designed in fact to ensure that no three or four populated areas are telling the entire rest of the country how to live.
The electoral college was designed to check the majority and keep it from becoming too concentrated, and it did just that this week. It did its job and the Founding Fathers would be proud. When you look at the red-blue map, it should be crystal clear to you why the red candidate should and did win.
If Hillary didn't like these rules she didn't have to run. The next time some up and coming trailblazer from a party you don't like is able to get the NY and LA crowd going but little else, you'll be glad people much smarter than us insisted on the electoral college.
In addition to calling out the FBI for the loss, the Clinton campaign is blaming everyone but Santa Claus. Report is that they popped the bubbly stuff on the campaign plane on election day.
"Nayak also acknowledged anger at global institutions, a desire for change after a two-term Democratic president, votes for third-party candidates, and the "unprecedented task" of electing the nation's first female president as hurdles to the campaign's success."
Kate is a Twit, I haven't brought the issue up at all except in response to people who keep bringing it up. Don't blame people for responding to comments initiated completely by others and there is no need to throw nasty personal attacks at me. I have been nothing but kind to you and praising of your historian-like abilities and in response I get compared to Milo. Seriously? Go watch Michael Moore's Trumpland, he has an understanding of why and how Trump got elected on a level few others in his camp want to study, and he manages to express it without making others feel badly and stupid for their choice. I don't mind him, because even though I'll never share his political views, I respect him for being knowledgable about them, knowledgeable about the other side and the people who hold opposing views and conveying this all all respectfully, most of the time. The same can't be said for much of the rest of the party. Michael Moore is one of the only liberals to actually go around the rust belt and TALK to people, and that is when he started to predict Trump was gonna win this. Had Hillary had half the listening abilities he did she might have won too.
The Founding Fathers set up the EC because they studied as scholars pure democracies and discovered that pure democracies, historically, always fell. But, limited representative democratic republics, were strong, and that is what they created. Giving slave states a slight edge may have been a consequence that those from the slave states liked, but it was hardly the reason the EC was set up. How incredibly arrogant all these people most of whom have never even cracked open a constitutional law textbook wanting to flush down the toilet something that such careful thought and research was put into.
The "slave state" argument about the electoral college is not only completely baseless as a "reason" the EC was set up, but isn't even relevant. PA and the rust belt won the election. Not the "slave states." Under a popular vote, a candidate can afford to write off PA and the rust belt because they can make up the votes elsewhere. Does anyone live there and would you prefer that? Do you like not mattering anymore? Under the EC, EVERYONE matters. Everyone.
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Good grief, they're even passive aggressively blaming Obama for this? Obama has been the most mature out of all of them.
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" the "unprecedented task" of electing the nation's first female president as hurdles to the campaign's success."
Utter nonsense. This country can and will elect a woman any day of the week and twice on Sundays. But women voters aren't about to elect somebody they don't like. I don't vote because of someone's gender. That's not feminism. The entire point of feminism is to be treated equally to men, therefore, I vote on who is the best person for the job, regardless of your gender. If you happen to be female, great. Put up a great woman candidate or someone at least better than the opposition and she'll be elected in a landslide.
I bet those same people wouldn't blame Sarah Palin's loss on her vagina. She didn't lose because she's a woman. She lost because the other side was better. Why is that SO hard for them to say?
In addition to calling out the FBI for the loss, the Clinton campaign is blaming everyone but Santa Claus. Report is that they popped the bubbly stuff on the campaign plane on election day.
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Politico has really good insider political stories and doesn't seem to overtly lean one way or the other. There was definitely stuff about the arrogance and people popping champagne prematurely. But, they were saying a lot of stuff about Hillary herself being really nervous, some higher ups in the campaign seeing this coming but nearly afraid to say it and what's more having no idea how to fix it, and that the real nail in the coffin was the second look by the FBI, that's when some of them including Hillary herself started to feel like they could be really screwed. Some of that stress and uncertainty was playing out in her health. She was NOT coasting along thinking this was over, ever.
They also had a story, I swear to God, that people in the Trump campaign had it on good authority a bomb was about to drop on Hillary about a week before the election. I don't know who THEIR sources are, but hot damn, it happened just as they said. I love that publication.
Vee there were many more comments than that This morning but I didn't publish most of them because they were political. People don't want political comments but then get upset when comments aren't published. You can't win. If posters want politics to stop they need to take ownership of what they are posting and stop contributing to it themselves. If everyone. Respects that we will be able to move on much quicker. But judging by the comments I'm not sure I believe people really don't want to discuss this because they keep talking about it.
I could easily say Hillary has her Milos here but I happen to think that is a terribly nasty thing to say among fellow posters who have been together for years.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 138 I could easily say Hillary has her Milos here but I happen to think that is a terribly nasty thing to say among fellow posters who have been together for years. ----------
Yet, you call out "fellow posters who have been together for years" for supporting Hillary. You have shown that you have no respect for those that disagree with you.
Jillygee it was in response to being called "Milo", twice actually. That is not in keeping with the spirit of our porch. I never, ever name called like that. That side is just as mean and nasty as they proclaim to have been against all this time. It took losing for it to come out.
No one has been "called out" for anything. What are you talking about? There have been numerous discussions and debates from people on both sides on some interesting issues. No one was twisting anyone's arm to contribute. Good grief.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 23m23 minutes ago Did you hear? We are just 8 days away from that special day! On #TLC Nov.22 at 10pm #KatePlus8 is back! #KidsPupsAndFun @kateplusmy8
8 days till the 2nd, and I am seeing more and more ads (on ID) for Little People, Big World. Still nothing at all for K+8. I have never seen such a lack of promotion for any TLC show. Poor Kate is having to take the initiative and remind her fans. So we know she's noticed the lack of TLC promo.
Seriously, I know I mentioned Trump and Billy Bush's recorded conversation, but at the time he said it Trump was a reality tv star. Since he was in The Apprentice with Kate, and it's "reality tv," I thought it was applicable to this blog.
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I think that was fine and is applicable. This election had an unusually strong link to Kate, and it felt quite on topic most of the time, so personally, I never minded it. Most people could handle the discussion without throwing out accusations someone in Milo. Totally uncalled for. That really is a case of you should just scroll rather than say something like that.
Admin, you don't have to call us names. You said it all with your vote.
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Transference. Imputing the character or traits or choices of a candidate on the voters themselves. A phenomenon that has left 60 million voters scratching their heads, and caused the end of otherwise many good FB friendships. It's very unfortunate to take that approach, you could be missing out on a lot that other people have to offer. Many people who claim to be supportive of diversity when it comes down to it actually doesn't want to be diverse at all in their life. They only want to be surrounded by people who think just like them. It's dangerous.
NJGal51 said... 144 Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 23m23 minutes ago Did you hear? We are just 8 days away from that special day! On #TLC Nov.22 at 10pm #KatePlus8 is back! #KidsPupsAndFun @kateplusmy8 ======== Milo - Shouldnt the hashtag read #KidsPupsAndFun-MINUSONE!
I don't want everyone to think like me but I do want everybody to have the same rights. Your leader plans to take away wimen's choice and other rights that have been fought for. Open your eyes! You're a good German!
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I think it's very noble to vote because you think you are voting for the best candidate to preserve your rights. But most people vote that way, as did I. The other side were simply voting to protect the rights of an unborn child, among other rights they believe in, like the right to bear arms and support one's family with a decent job that's not going to get outsourced abroad. What do you do when 60% of Americans including more than half of women themselves don't think a woman has ANY right to abort her child? I thought majority rules, or does it only rule when you candidate loses? If majority rules, should not abortion be illegal if only 40% of Americans support it? I mean, fair is fair, right?
A good German? You just proved my point. The other side is beyond, beyond the pale. Look at yourselves. Really look. You sound like exactly what you claimed to hate.
Admin, you don't have to call us names. You said it all with your vote.
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Transference ******* Agree, and I hope we can separate persons from their vote.
KKK endorsed Trump KKK hate x,y,z people Trump hates x,y,z people.
This is fallacious and just because a woman voted for Trump doesn't mean she endorses pussy grabbing or islamophia etc. This election's nuances are going to be digested and ruminated upon for many years to come.
Admin has run this blog diplomatically for many years now. I hope we can all give her the benefit of the doubt, with tempers running very high, and come together again. That's my hope anyway ;-)
Well said, Tucker's Mom. This is exhausting. Can't we all just move forward? It was incredibly disappointing, but someone had to win and someone had to lose. The saddest part is that this was the lowest voter turnout in 20 years. That is the real tragedy.
Collin really is just a distant memory for Milo. She phased him right on out. Damn if some special needs kids is going to stop the fun, love, chaos and pups.
I'm not a lawyer so I won't try to use lots of words just to tell you you're wrong for not thinking like me (which is what you are doing). You are doing what you believe which promotes hate, homophobic attacks, xenophobia and antisemitism
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That is not true. He pulled millions of votes from categories that were "supposed" to and very often vote Democrat. Minorities (a whopping 29% of Hispanics), women (42% overall, and more than half of white women), and gays (15%) voted for him in large numbers, you can't explain that away. If it were .05% of those groups who voted for him you might have something to your argument. Are you saying that the 15% of gays and lesbians who voted for him were voting for someone the lynch mob them and their friends? Get real. But the more you spread rhetoric that that is what this vote was about, the more upset people will be, and violence WILL happen. A self-fulfilling prophesy. It scares me but I think some people want that to happen, just so they can say SEE, SEE! Tragic.
He's bringing his closest advisor, a known anti-semite and white supremacist with him to the white house. Surely you can understand how people are concerned about that.
He's bringing his closest advisor, a known anti-semite and white supremacist with him to the white house. Surely you can understand how people are concerned about that.
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Being concerned about this or that is perfectly reasonable and understandable. I had my concerns about various people the Clintons associated with.
But taking the next step, as has been so often done, and imputing the concern onto the voters themselves, is transference. That's what I object to. I.e. "I've decided Trump's advisor is racist, therefore, all Trump voters are racist."
That's the difference, and it's causing a very deep and unfair divide.
I never heard anyone say ALL his voters are racist. You cannot deny they are a segment that helped to elect him. And now they feel validated and enboldened.
I never heard anyone say ALL his voters are racist. You cannot deny they are a segment that helped to elect him. And now they feel validated and enboldened
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You're not really listening then because it's been said ad nauseum all trump supporters are racist. Matt Walsh wrote a very compelling piece about it and why the vote had nothing to do with racism. Like most voters I could care less what fringe group supports who. Every candidate had their crazy supporters. I vote on the issues and the candidate, not on who else is voting for them. The kkk always supports the republicans even though it's been decades since there has been a racist president. They likely support them more due to the gun issue than anything else. No one made a big deal about it in prior years. Double standard as usual.
ignorant. And no, that does not mean that every Trump voter is a racist. But if you think there is not a segment of this country that is angry that a) a black man became president and/or b) upset that the increasing diversity in the country is reducing the traditional white power structure, you are living in a fantasy world
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Yes they're fed up. With the economic situation. The exit polls were overwhelming. Jobs were the issue. your bizarre theory that racist America is simply fed up with a black president has a fatal flaw. Why didn't all the racist kkk troops rally behind Romney and get Obama out? They had a golden opportunity and didn't do it? And why didn't they rally to prevent Obama from being elected in the first place? Please. Nice try but it has no basis in anything but trying to write off a flawed cnadidate's loss as "racism" instead of actually facing the real reasons. Plus last I checked hillary was white so that really sounds ridiculous. Obama doesn't even like her so if my plan was to stick it to Obama I'd vote for her.
I repeat...his closest adviser is an anti-semite, white supremacist. That is not ok. Just no.
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His own daughter, son-in-law, and grandchildren are all Jewish. I'm not worried.
Israel is one factor I do vote on, the candidate that is the most supportive of the homeland is important to me, and I was satisfied with everything that was said about Israel.
I repeat...his closest adviser is an anti-semite, white supremacist. That is not ok. Just no. ******* Maybe this comment will get postedone. YES!! This is a non issue,non debatable, it's just a NO
kateplusmy8 My newest in my collection of hand written notes on the door of my room.. Thanks #PeaceLoveWorld - I borrowed your saying! #Mommagement
The sign (in her dreadful juvenile hand) reads:
Good News Only . . . All other, please keep to yourself . . . Thanks --Mommagement
"#Mommagement"? She'll hang her hat on anything. And seeing this note convinces me more than I was that she wrote that sweet little "Leah" note. The handwriting, the little dash in front of Mommagement. Bizarre and sad.
Oh and thank heaven she's got Milo's seal of approval on the #NewWord. She's "totally OK" with it. Did she really think it was necessary to translate Mommagement for the unwashed masses? She must think everyone is as dumb as her.
miloandjack2016 My DAD used to say..."Every flower has to grow thru dirt..." 😋 But a little sunshine aka good news sure speeds the process! W/all the weight on your shoulders daily, I would imagine positives from your kids....& your #FurBabies keep you going? @kateplusmy8 miloandjack2016Is that supposed to be #MomManagement ? 😋 @kateplusmy8. Totally OK either way...LOL. #TiredEndOfTheDayMom. ❤
And a little sheeple love.
anastasiaruby There was a mean magazine cover about you on the grocery store rack today...I put a cooking magazine in front of it ✌️️❤️
kateplusmy8 Thanks! Well done! Cooking magazines tend to tell the truth about foods and the various recipes they write about, so GREAT choice:) @anastasiaruby
miloandjack2016 Ok...Im the slow one here! LOL. #Miss17 just informed me its SUPPOSED to say #mom- agement instead of #man- agement!! 😋 I stand corrected! @kateplusmy8
So now she's telling KATE she spelled her non-word wrong. LOL, watch out Milo.
YOU'RE not worried? Good for you. How many of your elderly relatives have numbers tatooed on their arms? How many aunts and uncles have you never met because they were taken as children never to be seen again? For an educated woman you really are .... Naive.
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I guess myself and a quarter of the Jewish population are hopelessly naive. Trump got more Jewish voters than McCain did or Bush did. Romney beat him, but only by a few points.
I'm really trying to understand what you think is going to happen. You honestly think Jewish people are in danger? He's going to tattoo them, catalogue them, place them back in concentration camps? Hurt them in ANY manner? Including his own family? You honestly think this is something we truly, as voters, should be worried about? If I thought for one second a candidate was seeking to harm this population I wouldn't think twice about withdrawing my vote. Like many conservatives I have always been fiercely in Israel's corner and with that comes fierce support of the Jewish population. My closest friend is Jewish, and she also voted for Trump, though she doesn't like him as a person. How can it be that he doesn't scare her or a quarter of the Jewish population? Or are a quarter just stupid and voting for their own demise? I hear a lot of "surely you can understand/see" and I would counter with, surely you can see why so many people are NOT worried about what you are worried about.
That's another thing constantly thrown out at voters--you MUST have been stupid to have voted for this. Except, some of the most educated, well read and knowledgable people I know voted for Trump, they could talk circles around most people about what goes on in this world including most people here.
This kind of accusation is not resonating. It's antagonizing. Newsflash, no one likes to be called stupid/naive/racist/homophobe or lumped in with a couple fringe members of the party they have absolutely no control over, and they really don't like it when it's not even true. Keep it up though, and you're probably losing next time too. This did NOT happen when Obama won. This is a lot of time wasted yelling and screaming at those who managed to figure out how to take back the government, wasting valuable time that could be spent figuring out how to win four years from now. The clock already started ticking a week ago. A week lost already.
Pew Research shows that Secy Clinton received over 70% of the Jewish vote and trump 24%. Swastikas have appeared in nearby communities along with trump + white power spray painted. And that's my only political comment!
I've been watching BBC's Doctor Foster. Did someone here recommend it? It's okay, not great, but worth watching.
kateplusmy8 Thanks! Well done! Cooking magazines tend to tell the truth about foods and the various recipes they write about, so GREAT choice:) @anastasiaruby ======== Too bad the same can't be said of her cookbook.
Well there must be some truth to the latest things being printed about her or she'd be screaming "can we sue" at the top of her lungs. Bless her heart, she did herself in when she did that People cover/article and had a shit eating grin on her face in every picture while her son was very glaringly missing from all the chaotic fun that is their life.
Pew Research shows that Secy Clinton received over 70% of the Jewish vote and trump 24%. Swastikas have appeared in nearby communities along with trump + white power spray painted. And that's my only political comment!
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Here's my only political comment. Regarding the pre-election celebration victory (drinking champagne on election day before the polls closed)...the moral of the story is "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. You may end up with scrambled egg on your face."
Then you wipe it off, and you move on. You don't blame everyone and everything for your loss.
Yes, Gladys, TFW's 8 children should be responsible for cheering up their poor mother, who has the weight of the world on her shoulders. Never mind that their beloved brother has been sent away. Or that their father is persona non grata. Or that their privacy has been taken away from them without their consent, and that their actions, emotions, and even personal notes, are up for public consumption. They need to take care of their 41-year-old mother. Does Gladys not realize how disturbing that is?
Those kids should not have to cheer up Kate. They should not have to massage her feet or back or any part of her. They should not be concerned about her safety. They should not have their mom always want to be competitive with them. They should not have to have every vacation filmed. And they should not have to earn enough to take care of the family.
Jeanne (#175), isn't it preposterous? These kids have a full day at school, homework, perhaps after school activities, and just the normal growing pains of being preteens and teens, and yet they're expected to take care of the emotional needs of their mother? Who doesn't go to work all day, and has plenty of household help?
In a way I'm glad that TFW will be on next week. Maybe we can move on and discuss ratings and move away from politics. I agree with you 100% Over and Out. Only time will tell what type of president he will be.
They need to take care of their 41-year-old mother. Does Gladys not realize how disturbing that is?
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No. Gladys only knows that Kate is her one true love and that all of her needs and wants must be taken care of. Kate is entitled to that. That's all that matters. Isn't that right, Gladys?
The blatant parentification is getting to the point where it's really disturbing. And the fans just keep praising it.
This is the kind of thing you see from teenagers who have a severely mentally ill parent, or a parent who is a client of Regional Center. They've learned to step in the shoes of the parent and fulfill that emotional role. This kind of thing shouldn't be seen with fully functioning, normal adults. Something is very wrong here.
Admin (#180), and it wouldn't be so bad if the kids had a foundation of normalcy with their dad. That could offer a sanctuary to them, and a safe place to land, and escape from their mother's seemingly endless emotional burdens. But TFW has sabotaged her children's relationship with their father. She is their lifeline, and their primary connection to the planet.
I greatly hope some of them have a solid relationship with their father. But I'm also convinced any joy or pleasure found in his company must be either kept secret, or lied about, so as not to incur their mother's wrath. Once Mommy sued Daddy, the loyalty lines in that family were pretty clearly drawn. What a damaged household. And yet a week from today, it will be broadcast to the world as "chaotic fun." Sigh.
I don't know about her being mammagement but she is certainly a MOMAGER, which is defined as: A growing category of “bad” mother is the so-called “momager,” the woman who interferes with her famous children's affairs, exploits them, and contributes to their tarnished reputations.
Kris (#182), your comment reminded me of an old SCTV skit about a talk show starring Brooke Shields and her mother Teri (played by Catherine O'Hara and Rick Moranis). Teri embarrasses Brooke about something on camera, and Brooke replies, "I'm not your daughter -- I'm your ticket to ride!" It sure brings TFW and her 8 little tickets to mind.
She just posted one of TLC's promo photos on IG. Collin's in the photo, and so several comments are asking if he's back or assuming he is. Wonder how that's gonna work out for her. She's not answering so far. Maybe they won't discuss it at all, but will cut him in here and there? We know they're not above crude fakery, far from it.
kateplusmy8 Kate Plus 8 returns NOVEMBER 22 at 10pm😉
Sooo, Kate only wants her kids to give her news if it's good news? How is that good parenting? If one of the kids is being bullied, if they are worried about grades, if they got in a disagreement with someone--they can't come to their mother to discuss it. I can't imagine cutting off my kids and their concerns. They need that support at home. I suppose Kate thinks that note on her door is a way of showing her fans her "positive attitude", but in reality it is just bad parenting. She has no intention of there for her kids when they need her.
Milo's tweet yesterday about the show coming back next week literally got no replies (not even haters). But she won't give up, oh no, not not her.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago Next Tues. at 10pm on #TLC we celebrate 10yrs #LookingBack at #KatePlus8 Fun/beautiful memories! You survived Mom! @Kateplusmy8
They said I would Never get this far. They were right, I got even further.
Since Kate looks back every year, I can only imagine the replays (Hannah's unnerwares, anyone?) that will be overflowing this hour of fakeness. Though it'll be hard to have a lot of the cutest moments if they have had to cut Jon out of everything.
Layla (#191), remember when TFW bragged about letting the kids settle their own disputes while they were still in diapers? She wasn't trying to let them develop their own tools. She was just too lazy to be bothered with their silly little problems.
She's always appeared to be more like a zookeeper than a mother to those children. So it's no surprise to me that they are still kept at arm's length, and are expected to navigate their lives on their own.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago Next Tues. at 10pm on #TLC we celebrate 10yrs #LookingBack at #KatePlus8 Fun/beautiful memories! You survived Mom! @Kateplusmy8
I just noticed, by leaving out the comma after "survived," Milo is basically saying the kids survived having Kate as a mother! Surely not her intent. LOL! She almost never fails to put her foot in it somewhere.
Here's a comment that got in before the magic eraser:
7813bellaprincess Is COLLIN back shame on you for sending him away your a MOTHER you should be able to under stand your own children and what is happening no your worrying about yourself and your TV money SHAME ON YOU you shouldn't have had so many children they should not put you back on YV make your own money or give the kids to John you treated him like shit too you are so mean to your kids SHAME ON YOU
From the comments, it's clear the fans on IG don't realize that the photo they're looking at (which includes Colline) was taken at least six months ago.
She is their lifeline, and their primary connection to the planet. ****** That's by design. Kate is a classic abuser, who isolates her victims. Anyone who isn't on Kate's program is cast out of their lives. It sickens me that Kate has so thoroughly alienated some of them from their own father. And, she's proud of it.
anastasiaruby There was a mean magazine cover about you on the grocery store rack today...I put a cooking magazine in front of it ✌️️❤️
kateplusmy8 Thanks! Well done! Cooking magazines tend to tell the truth about foods and the various recipes they write about, so GREAT choice:) @anastasiaruby
******* It's going to take a lot more than another magazine to cover up what Kate's done to her children. Funny thing is, if even 1/10th of it is true, this stupid sheep would still only worry about Kate, not the children.
Sad but true said... 167 miloandjack2016 Ok...Im the slow one here! LOL. #Miss17 just informed me its SUPPOSED to say #mom- agement instead of #man- agement!! 😋 I stand corrected! @kateplusmy8
So now she's telling KATE she spelled her non-word wrong. LOL, watch out Milo. November 14, 2016 at 6:28 PM ******* Oh, Milo, Milo. People have been calling Kate a momager for years now. Just like Pimp Momager Kardashian.
By the way, when you go *further*, at some point, you got *this far* and passed it. So, "they" weren't right- "they" were wrong. #Idiot
Notice Gladys started her countdown yesterday, when it was EIGHT days away from the premiere. She's so clever! Except that there are only 7 kids there now. #K+7#ChaoticFun#CWho?
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Sigh. It's not about the email server. It's about using the server to hide corruption. Especially corruption in her "charity". Emails were not "lost" like in some kind of amateur hour early 2000s computer crash. They. were. deleted. And they were deleted to hide evidence of her corruption. There's a difference.
I didn't say she should go to jail. I said she should be allowed to be pardoned and move on. What a waste of a very bright narcissist swept up in the sludge of politics. What great things she could be doing with her time other than eating BBQ at campaign events in Iowa for decades.
Bottom line there was nothing, nothing at all inappropriate about trump throwing out jail as a possibly for her. Maybe if Bernie had been more willing to take a tougher path like trump did, we'd be talking about president Sanders right now.
Looks like the president elect got his phone back.
He needs to realize that as the president elect he now has different responsibilities.
He can't be running his mouth anymore about any and every thing he doesn't like. He can't be saying things he doesn't mean anymore, this isn't a reality show with do-overs.
His role as raging lunatic is over. Now he needs to play the role of responsible president elect.
The USA is not a company which he just bought. He was elected president of a democracy.
This would be a perfect time for him to start showing us his leadership skills in calming things down.
This would be a perfect time for him to start showing us his leadership skills in calming things down.
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What do you think of Obama's leadership in calming Ferguson?
I'm sorry but it's nuts to expect a president any president to be able to reason with these fringe groups. What needs to happen is we need to support our police in making swift, immediate arrests of all people invoking violence or hate crimes. Done, off to jail. Today I was stuck in utter gridlock for an hour and a half next to the 10 freeway because protestors had shut it down. I saw dozens of cops just standing there. Not making arrests not getting them off. Good lord! Trump can't do anything about supporting law enforcement in being tougher on this crap until he's in office. Incidentally, the law enforcement vote for him was overwhelming. He blew that out of the water. Apparently, they too want to be able to do more.
Trump, Clinton and Obama have all been mature and extraordinary calm the past couple days. There are no deficiencies here in leadership. Obama is still president, it's not for Trump to push him off the stage and take over this issue. Obama could call for law enforcement to enforce the law, he might start there. Under his leadership all our cops are afraid to do anything for fear of being racist.
In LA they had the count of protestors I think at one point was at about 40 today. Yawn, enough to shut down a freeway, but numbers wise about the size of my high school gym class. Much ado about nothing.
@Admin -- Hillary actually won the popular vote. In most (if not all other) democracies, that is how you win the election. It is very hard to understand all your butt-kissing of Trump when practically anywhere else he would have lost. The Electoral College is what got him elected, which was (surprise surprise) "updated" by Republicans. And the voter suppression by the Republicans was appalling. To deny that is what happened, is to simply deny the facts. To say you are upset with Hillary's emails, do you have any comment about the emails HE deleted when under court order to produce HIS emails?? Was that ok because he was a private citizen, even though he was court-ordered not to do that? And to say he is a successful businessman when he has been involved in over 3500 lawsuits?? He would not pay contractors or workers, then tie them up in court until the other party has no other option but to bow out cuz they can't afford the court/lawyer fees. Then he would declare that he "won" the lawsuit. This man is totally despicable. The Access Hollywood tape was not "locker room talk"-- locker room talk is about what you would LIKE to do... he was telling Billy Bush what he ACTUALLY DOES, not what he would like to do. I can't believe how far up Trump's butt your head is... you must be able to see his tonsils. Your country will get exactly what you deserve by electing this buffoon. I get that he won the Electoral College, but he did NOT win the popular vote, meaning Hillary actually got more votes than he did.
And for you to deny there has been very hateful things written and said about Obama is truly mind-blowing. Talk about gaslighting history. And the refusal of Republicans to do their job and hold hearings for Obama's supreme court nominee, saying the public should be given a voice. The public was given a voice and elected Obama from Jan 2013 until Jan 2017 -- he was NOT a lame duck president until yesterday. If they hadn't been the big babies they are, Garland would and should have had hearings back in March when he was nominated. Americans may think their politics is to be commended by the rest of the world, just know that the world is not commending the childish games the Republicans have been playing since Obama became President. The minute McConnell stated the only focus of the Republicans would be to stop Obama from doing anything, he should have been tossed out of Congress and charged with treason. But I guess treason only applies to Democrats?
I could not be paid enough to be an American right now. Good luck with your country now going back to the 1950s.
Admin, Now that the election is over, I'm begging you to please reinstate the ban on political comments. Some of the comments since the election have felt more angry and hate filled than they did prior to election day and it's feeling more uncomfortable here than ever. Nothing will be solved at this point by people trying to change others' minds.
Let's embrace the freedoms our Constitution guarantees us, be mindful of the fragile peace in many areas of our country and the world, and strive to find common ground to work together rather than look for and say things that will only divide us.
Kate Plus 8 finally made it onto my Time Warner cable upcoming show listing for Nov 22.
It sounds like an exciting and interesting episode. NOT
"Kate looks back on their first television special and compares the challenges then to the ones the family faces now."
It sounds like it's another opportunity for TFW to try to convince viewers how hard she had it raising 8 kids (all alone, you know) and how she's learned from her mistakes (overreacting, stressing, being a momster) and that she is a changed but better person now. Uh, huh, sure.
But, OMG, TLC, how many times have they used this same storyline? B.O.R.I.N.G. Whether it's been 10 years or 1, it's the same 'ole crap and everyone has seen and heard it before.
@SO Glad NOT To Be American said... 4
Well said and thank you.
@ Mel, I agree as well.
As far as comparing what Obama did during Ferguson and what Trump is doing now?
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Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!
There it is, the delusions of a conspiracy. Like you all said "he won" so get on with it Trump. It went his way, so it was fair. Had it not, it's a sham.
And let's go back to 2012
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/donald_trump_loses_it_calls_for_revolution/
The only thing I wish she had done differently is divorce her husband. It's been clear for many years that the relationship, probably from both sides, has been based on what looks like cold-blooded pragmatism, with the "close-knit family" aspect only being trotted out for the cameras and sound-bites. I think she would have garnered more respect had she set out on her own after they left the White House. I know I would have viewed her quite differently. Her mistake was thinking she needed Bill to help her shatter the glass ceiling. I think he and his shadow prevented her from doing so.
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I live in the South with a lot of religious conservatives, and I've seen plenty of awful things about Obama on Facebook while he was President. In my opinion, they voted for Trump because of hate for Hillary and not because of how great Trump is.
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A lot of protest votes in my opinion got him elected. And like SO GLAD NOT to be American pointed out, it's the Electoral College that got him in, the same institution Trump has insinuated is a sham. Not so much now.
Even his tweet about these latest protests is so childish. "NOT FAIR!" nobody taking away his iphone now?
I said she should be allowed to be pardoned and move on.
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Pardon what though? She hasn't been convicted of anything.
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Love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud!
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Good Lord, talk about flip flopping
So Tori Spelling is going to steal K8's dream.
http://www.celebitchy.com/511769/tori_spelling_got_a_reality_show_and_wants_to_be_the_next_martha_stewart/
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I said she should be allowed to be pardoned and move on.
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Pardon what though? She hasn't been convicted of anything.
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"Pardon" isn't really the right word. What they're talking about is giving her blanket immunity from prosecution. I don't know whether they're just talking about e-mails or whether it would cover any other matters that might come to light.
Admin, Now that the election is over, I'm begging you to please reinstate the ban on political comments. Some of the comments since the election have felt more angry and hate filled than they did prior to election day and it's feeling more uncomfortable here than ever. Nothing will be solved at this point by people trying to change others' minds.
Let's embrace the freedoms our Constitution guarantees us, be mindful of the fragile peace in many areas of our country and the world, and strive to find common ground to work together rather than look for and say things that will only divide us.
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Agreed, it's time. I'm really disappointed people can't have respect for this result and move forward as I would have were Hillary elected, and I fully thought she would be. I forgot if it was here or somewhere else, but someone said, now you know how I felt when Obama was elected, stinky feeling, right?!--except, I didn't throw a hissy fit.
To clarify though, IF Kate herself says anything about it or if there's any possibility at all she's going to see or tweet Trump or any other thing about this that involves Kate (like, for instance, Apprentice people being invited to the WH), we can discuss that. Thank you everyone.
@Admin -- Hillary actually won the popular vote. In most (if not all other) democracies, that is how you win the election.
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This is just a general comment about the electoral college, I promise, but please look at the purpose behind the electoral college. If we get rid of the electoral college, candidates will campaign in New York and Los Angeles and a couple other populated cities, and win. There would be no reason to bother with New Hampshire, no reason to bother with Iowa, no reason to bother with Nevada. Anyone from those states? And how do you feel about not mattering anymore?
That is very, very unfair to the rest of the people of this country, who each candidate should have to work hard for to get a huge cross section of votes. Under the electoral college system, it wasn't enough for Trump to just win the religious right south, he had to win a wide cross section of states from all parts of the country, from all kinds of different Americans. This is why our campaign trail is so grueling, because you really do need to hit every state. A state like West Virginia could mean the win, as it did for Bush 2. You would skip West Virginia all together under a popular vote system.
The electoral college requires candidates to campaign almost everywhere. This is better on so many levels because it requires candidates to listen to the needs of (JOBS: Hillary's fatal flaw) and appeal to a broad cross section of people. Yes, it comes down to swing states, but swing states are always changing. (See, Texas.)
Even though I live in Los Angeles, I sure as hell don't want Los Angeles always being the one to elect our president. It's patently unfair.
Whatever any candidate has said, I am 100%, beyond measure, supportive of the electoral college, even if the popular vote elects someone else. I don't much care what the popular vote says, because Los Angeles doesn't get to elect every president here. Our forefathers studied many other democracies in fashioning ours, and discovered that "pure" democracies eventually crumble and fail. Democracies with safeguards like an electoral college in place stay strong. An explanation I have heard of it, is that under a pure democracy with a popular vote, the wolves will always be able to eat the sheep, and the sheep never get a chance to be heard.
I should say, that in much less populated and less diverse countries like Canada, this problem is not as prevalent, and an electoral college may not be necessary to ensure all parts of the country are heard. But your comparing apples and oranges.
I am PROUD to be an American this week, and deeply insulted and disappointed at the lashing out about this great country because people did not get their way. This is PART of democracy, sometimes, you don't get your way. Not getting your way makes our democracy better and stronger, because it forces you to go back to the drawing board and figure out where and what went wrong. Without the electoral college, the democrats will never have to figure out why Pennsylvania, Florida, the rust belt, all turned on them this year. Don't you think they owe it to those people to figure it out? Under popular vote, they never need bother.
Another comment about the electoral college, is it was also designed to make sure that the majority did not always crush the minority--without many checks and balances in place first to ensure the minority was heard.
And that was a huge problem in Nazi Germany, since the "majority" really did crush the minority and there was nothing at all the minority could do about it. So when people throw out alarmist bells about fascism and so forth, I would say the EC was designed to prevent just that by ensuring everyone gets heard and has to be courted, not just the cult wave rushing through.
If Hitler had an electoral college in place, he probably wouldn't have been elected.
Only 11 more days until the first new K+8 episode. She sure doesn't seem too interested in promoting it, does she?
She doesn't seem much interested in ANYTHING. She seems totally detached from the world.
After 10 years, I still don't know what her passions are, what motivates her, what inspires her. Kids and travel don't count. Most everybody likes kids and travel.
I that there are many movers and shakers that will be vying for an invite to the inaugural ball and TFW is not at the top of his list. And yes, some of them may even have been on Celebrity Apprentice, but again, I doubt that TFW is at the top of that list either.
Happy Veyeran's Day to all who served and to us, the family members, who supported them every step of the way.
VETERAN'S Day, but you all knew what I meant!
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So Tori Spelling is going to steal K8's dream.
http://www.celebitchy.com/511769/tori_spelling_got_a_reality_show_and_wants_to_be_the_next_martha_stewart/
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Nooooo! You have got to be kidding!
After the Dean and Tori spilling their guts, dirty laundry episodes?
Terrible idea.
No Veterans Day post from TFW but another dog post today.
@FlimsyFlamsy Heck,even Milo doesn't seem to be promoting it at all either,which is odd.When the last couple of episodes got airdates,i remember Milo immediately went into promoting mode.
So she claims Leah posted her a "love" note on the outside of #Nookie's cage. Note how she points out the kids are NOT going to Jon's.
The note: "Dear Mommy I love you be safe while I'm gone --Leah" No punctuation? What grade are the tups in now? And where was she when they were leaving?
kateplusmy8 When your children leave you love notes (before leaving for an overnight school trip) and know just where to put it so you see it the second you get home!😉 #Leah #Nanuq
Be safe while I'm gone?? That's an extremely odd thing for a 12 year old to say to an adult. These kids really have taken on a parental role with her, she's that mentally ill. These kids are so incredibly parentified and are going to need a mountain of therapy to ever recover.
The sap never stops.
miloandjack2016 #Priceless! We know who Leah learned that from! Her doting #LoveMyKidsToTheMoonAndBack MOM! ❤ And she knows you well...of course, you would seek out #Nanuq asap when you got home! @kateplusmy8
Admin (#25), you beat me to it. Those children are clearly parentified, and TFW is too dense to know we pick up on it when she posts things like that. She seems to want to brag about how much they love her, but she often exposes a dark side of their relationship. She can talk until she's blue in the face about alleged "inappropriate" things between her children and their father, but we have seen and heard things between her and the kids that are very alarming, IMHO.
Why in the world should a 12-year-old be concerned that her mother is safe? If TFW was ill, or facing some huge personal struggle, that concern might be warranted. But a kid about to have a fun trip should not be taking on her mother's well being as a burden.
She seems to want to brag about how much they love her, but she often exposes a dark side of their relationship.
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This.
Yes, yes and YES.
And of course Milo has to be a butt kisser and once again thinks Kate uploading something makes it true and everyone is wrong miloandjack2016 This debunks #TrashyTabloid lies that tell tales of discord in your hm. Proof positive here that you have instilled LOVE & need to care for one another in your kids. I would imagine #Leah is NOT the only child that does this? @kateplusmy8
Abused children even emotionally abused children almost always love their parents, even adore them. They are dismayed to go into foster care. For better or worse this is what they know. It is not uncommon at all for an abused child to write a parent a letter telling them how much they love them and want to go home. It has no value to me in court, I know they love their parents. It does not disprove the abuse. When I see a child who doesn't want to go home it's often a red flag they might be making the abuse up. You also have to keep in mind that just because there is some abuse going on, there are also often many more moments of happy, non-abusive times. I'm sure there are periods of calm and happiness in that house when Kate is not upset.
Milo has no understanding of child psychology or how what Kate has done to them really plays out for a child. None.
It's not hard to figure out how Leah got to the point of concerned over her mother's safety. She is processing events like Kate throwing fits outside Jon's residence. She is processing Kate's instability and manic behavior. She knows, deep down, there's safety issues here and it comes out in that note.
I should say, that in much less populated and less diverse countries like Canada, this problem is not as prevalent, and an electoral college may not be necessary to ensure all parts of the country are heard.
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Oh my goodness, Admin. I was going to keep my opinion to myself because, after all, it was not my horse race. However, I feel I need to tell you that Canada is more diverse than you imagine. Way more. We do not have an electoral college because we have a parliamentary system. Our prime minister is not elected directly, but rather is the leader of the party with the most elected members.
Currently we have five different parties represented in parliament and they cover a wide range of political and geographical points of view. And yes, passions often run high, but in the main we don't abandon all civility. A withering retort with wit is much preferred to shouting, although unfortunately there is shouting, too. As I said, there are many points of view on any subject you can mention.
Gladys says any rumors about discord at Gosselin Manor is the just the #TrashyTabloids spreading lies. So when we saw that picture of TFW lifting that same daughter's dress and smacking her behind, she was...what, Gladys? Killing a bee? Putting out a fire? Using her child's behind as a percussion instrument for a family sing-along?
The only thing that note is "proof positive" of is that these poor children continue to be emotionally manipulated by their mother. And she's disturbed enough to take pride in it.
Oh my goodness, Admin. I was going to keep my opinion to myself because, after all, it was not my horse race. However, I feel I need to tell you that Canada is more diverse than you imagine. Way more. We do not have an electoral college because we have a parliamentary system. Our prime minister is not elected directly, but rather is the leader of the party with the most elected members.
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Oh yes I know. Which is why it's all the more head scratching why some Canadians are lecturing Americans on the superiority of a popular vote.
Sorry, I don't want New York and California to elect our president every time. I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand how horrible that would be. Democrats need to stop whining about the perfectly reasonable system that kicked them out of office, and figure out how to coalition build and get the electoral votes they need to win next time. Move forward, figure this out, change for the better. It's as simple as that. We get rid of the electoral college now and they will never ever have to figure out why they lost this year. Be honest, that's not right.
On another note, both candidates understood they'd have to get the electoral college. These are the rules they agreed to. If they don't like those rules they don't have to run. I've never seen such sour grapes from people who *agreed* to all this beforehand. Astounding.
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I that there are many movers and shakers that will be vying for an invite to the inaugural ball and TFW is not at the top of his list. And yes, some of them may even have been on Celebrity Apprentice, but again, I doubt that TFW is at the top of that list either.
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I'm betting Kate will be at ONE of the balls. There are many.
I've never had the urge to attend one. It's a bunch of people stuffed into a ballroom, eating rubber chicken and drinking rail liquor.
Unless you're at the top couple galas, it's crap.
Pym, your pm is dreamy by the way. Yowser.
85% of Canada is white so that's what I meant by not very diverse. Ideas wise and so forth I'm sure someone living in the Yukon lives very differently than someone in Toronto. That being said do you think Toronto should always be able to elect the leaders, and the Yukon never has a prayer of being heard? Under a popular vote system that's exactly what would happen. If you elected a president like we did I'd recommend an electoral college for you too so you're not one nation under Toronto.
This is just a general comment about the electoral college, I promise, but please look at the purpose behind the electoral college.
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Excellent tutorial. Thank you.
All we heard about was Hillary's "path to victory" and all the states that were "baked in the cake".
No one was complaining how unfair it was that Hillary's path seemed preordained. She had it. She had the path to 270.
I almost didn't bother watching to election results because, eh, I knew the outcome.
And then the unthinkable happened.
Yes, it is remarkable and the people protesting should look at other countries where aristocracy rules, and dictators shoot you if you disagree (see N. Korea) or, what we have many people demanding now, an epistocracy.
Yeah, look that one up. It's scary. And undemocratic. And people who are upset Hillary didn't win are certain that we shouldn't allow the uneducated, unwashed masses to have a say in our government.
Protesting is American. Rioting in the streets because you're candidate didn't win is uncivil, anarchist, and unAmerican.
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It's funny how Milo tries to lead Kate into additional revelations, "I would imagine #Leah is NOT the only child that does this?" OMG, the uppercase "NOT"! Come on, Kate, you surely must have tons of notes like this from all of your kids, so why dontcha post 'em? As if that's going to make the #TrahsyTabloid lies somehow less true?
We've seen the journal, we've seen the police reports, Milo, and we're not buying what Kate's selling. Capeesh?
Yeah, look that one up. It's scary. And undemocratic. And people who are upset Hillary didn't win are certain that we shouldn't allow the uneducated, unwashed masses to have a say in our government.
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Paternalistic, pretty much.
And, the undertone here is that middle America shouldn't be able to tell us who are president is. Well, they just did. And why shouldn't they? Why shouldn't the candidate have to go around to every blue collar, low income city they can find, listen to what they want and need, and deliver? Why are these people any less American than someone from New York, Chicago, or LA? A popular vote virtually ensures these people will never be heard again, and no campaign will ever bother to go to their city and eat their BBQ again because why waste the time. And ironically, THAT is when things like fascism happen, when the real heart of a country is suppressed and unheard.
Trump actually did quite well with women, quite well with the educated. In fact, more non-minority women voted for him than Hillary! That is NOT what was predicted. (I'm guessing women especially felt shamed into not following the media mantra that Trump is anti-woman, and didn't want to admit their true vote) This was nothing like the low numbers the media predicted. He did very well with the uneducated. The uneducated didn't vote for him because they're "stupid". They voted for him because they're struggling and want something better.
The tone from all the sour grapes is, how dare the heart of America tell us who our president is, they don't know what they're doing. It's very unfortunate and arrogant.
Tucker's Mom 38...Rioting in the streets because you're candidate didn't win is uncivil, anarchist, and unAmerican.
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You forgot incredibly, incredibly immature
Can you imagine if Jon posted personal notes from his kids, professing their love for him? They'd say he's a needy, pathetic loser, and would shame him for violating their privacy.
A withering retort with wit is much preferred to shouting, although unfortunately there is shouting, too
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I got a kick out of watching Britain's PM in Parliament her first session. They really know how to give the backhanded compliments!
Oooh, spiky Milo!
jpjt94@Miloandjack2016 Yeah because Kate saying it makes it true LMAO
miloandjack2016 Sad that you @jpjt94 come here to cast shade on a heart warming moment for @kateplusmy8 . No reason on earth for Kate to make this up! Nice that she even shares these small glimpses of her life. I see this pic as a #FamilyPositive and an #Affirmation that Kate is doing alot of things RIGHT in raising her kids! #GoodParenting. ❤
"Nice that she even shares these small glimpses of her life"?! What about a frickin' TV show? A national magazine cover story? Over and over and over again. I don't think anyone needs any more "small glimpses" of her life. And it's not just her life, it's her kids' lives as well. Stop promoting the child exploitation, Milo, you are coming across as a total sicko.
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Jamesvader1194 said... 29
It's funny how Milo tries to lead Kate into additional revelations, "I would imagine #Leah is NOT the only child that does this?" OMG, the uppercase "NOT"! Come on, Kate, you surely must have tons of notes like this from all of your kids, so why dontcha post 'em? As if that's going to make the #TrahsyTabloid lies somehow less true?
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Milo tries so hard to direct the narrative!
Nice that she even shares these small glimpses of her life.
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Kate shared her daughter's private note to her mother. Get real.
tunanoodlecasserole85Milo, you are ridiculous. Not only our stupid hashtags and trying to seem hip with using terms like 'casting shade' but your constant defense of Kate. This note was meant for Kate, not the world. Do you think Leah wrote that note so that it would be posted on instagram?
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My sediments exactly.
WTF?When were Milo and Kate really friends?These fans are so insane if they really believe Kate and them actually know each other. carleneigras1 @tunanoodlecasserole85 Milo is not being ridiculous. Just being supportive and kind to her friend. Something you could learn from perhaps.
Once you've installed permanent TV lighting in your house for ease of filming, you've blown the "small glimpses" illusion all to hell.
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Once you've installed permanent TV lighting in your house for ease of filming, you've blown the "small glimpses" illusion all to hell.
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We should start a "Once you..." meme.
Once you write a book of letters to your children and take it to a major publisher, there are no more small glimpses.
Once you film your kids on the potty, with their pants down around their ankles, there are no more small glimpses.
Gladys should be getting her rest, because I have a feeling this next round of episodes is going to get TFW plenty of flak.
Has anyone considered that this note may not have even been written by Leah? What, because Kate said so. Well, for me, that's no proof at all. It seemed a little unlike how a child would express themselves, oh heck, it seemed a lot like that.
While TFW was busy posting yet another puppy picture with a note from one of the kids telling TFW how much she loves her, Jon posted a thank you to all the Veterians. Which was more appropriate Milo. And BTW, who here believes that the puppy wouldn't have tried to get that note and rip it up? I know mine would have because it's, well, PAPER and that's just about the best thing in the world. Also, we now know that she kennels them and I'm thinking that they spend a good bit of time in there.
Tucker's Mom (#51), I've got a good one:
when you've filmed a 10th ANNIVERSARY celebration of your show, there are no more small glimpses.
And BTW, who here believes that the puppy wouldn't have tried to get that note and rip it up? I know mine would have because it's, well, PAPER and that's just about the best thing in the world. Also, we now know that she kennels them and I'm thinking that they spend a good bit of time in there.
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There are also a few toys in there which should never, ever be left in a crate with the dog in there. It's astounding how clueless Kate is, and even more amazing her dogs, and kids, survive her.
She always likes to bloviate about how amazing it is that SHE has survived all these years. It think it's the other way around.
It's also time to put the puppies into larger crates. The size borders on cruel.
Why are they using their crates so much anyway?
They're not suckling at the teat. They should long be housebroken by now and old enough to be trusted to sleep on their beds and not destroy anything while you leave the house for a couple hours.
Poor training.
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Pym, your pm is dreamy by the way. Yowser.
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He may be dreamy but trust me when I say he is a spoiled silver spoon idiot and he was voted in because eastern Canada has the population out west we did not vote Liberal!! Our system has it's flaws as well :(
Has anybody seen ads on TLC or Investigation Discovery for K+8? I have been watching A Haunting, and they have had many ads for Outdaughtered, a couple for LPBW, also some for 90-Day Fiance and Married By Mom and Dad--but no K+8. My DIL loves Say Yes To The Dress, and watches it all the time, and she says she has not seem a single mention of K+8. How very interesting!
He may be dreamy but trust me when I say he is a spoiled silver spoon idiot and he was voted in because eastern Canada has the population out west we did not vote Liberal!! Our system has it's flaws as well :(
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I don't know much about him other than those blue eyes.
The electoral college is a near perfect system. It's allowed a pretty fair chance for both parties to be in power and it more or less has gone back and forth between the parties for decades. It requires winners to build support in rural areas, cities, and all parts of the country. One game plan doesn't work, you need several.
Get rid of it and we'll be just like Canada, with the east and left/west coast electing a Democrat every.single.time. The midwest, the south, rural areas in general, and especially rural areas in liberal states, will never be heard from again while the coasts dictate who will lead the whole country every time. I have to just shake my head that anyone thinks the popular vote is a good idea.
On another note, we COULD do it one vote per state. That way, a Republican gets elected every time because they always win more states, state by state. Would you like that?
Again the EC allows both Dems and Republicans to have a fair shot at the presidency if they are able to build a large cross section of support. It is the fairest thing we know out there. Far superior to one vote per state, which elects a Rep. every time, far superior to popular vote, which is almost always going to favor Dems.
People just don't like it because their candidate didn't win, without actually considering what it does to prevent absolute disaster in a country this size. The EC was DESIGNED to prevent people like Hillary from taking office just because they managed to build a couple pockets of support in concentrated areas. Look at the red and blue map. The small amount of blue is startling. Geography wise, Trump blew her out of the water. This is exactly the scenario the EC was for. Well done, founding fathers.
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Pym, your pm is dreamy by the way. Yowser.
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Geez. Is he happily married? He looks like an Abercrombie or Calvin Klein model.
Has anybody seen ads on TLC or Investigation Discovery for K+8? I have been watching A Haunting, and they have had many ads for Outdaughtered,
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I haven't been watching TLC at all but I am seeing their ads on other networks. I couldn't tell you what network I was watching, but I hear a lot of Outdaughtered adds. No Kate ones.
I wanted to say, the Outdaughtered marketing is taking a page straight from the Gosselins. Chaos, screaming, disorganization! babies everywhere!
Seriously, this stuff still makes TLC money?
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Has anybody seen ads on TLC or Investigation Discovery for K+8? I have been watching A Haunting, and they have had many ads for Outdaughtered, a couple for LPBW, also some for 90-Day Fiance and Married By Mom and Dad--but no K+8. My DIL loves Say Yes To The Dress, and watches it all the time, and she says she has not seem a single mention of K+8. How very interesting!
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With so little fanfare from Kate and really very little responses of enthusiasm about her show returning, I've begun to wonder if this season is her last.
How she ever kept TLC filming with Colin being sent away and the domestic discord with Jon, with those sensational allegations, it's beyond my comprehension.
With just those two things that we have no doubt occurred. I can't believe TLC would continue using these kids for profit.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1086245/images/o-JUSTIN-TRUDEAU-facebook.jpg
He's married, but judging by the pictures he's miserable and definitely looking for someone else. Even an American.
As a Canadian I never truly understood the Electoral College system until this election. I think they taught it in high school but who remembers that lol. So if nothing else I now understand your system and find it fascinating I will admit I stayed up until 1:30am mst waiting for a decision then just couldn't do it anymore. My husband who has never been the least bit interested in politics was glued to the tv so I guess your election garnered a huge amount of interest not just in the US but internationally as well. I think the next 4 years are going to be extremely interesting for all...
As a Canadian I never truly understood the Electoral College system until this election. I think they taught it in high school but who remembers that lol. So if nothing else I now understand your system and find it fascinating I will admit I stayed up until 1:30am mst waiting for a decision then just couldn't do it anymore. My husband who has never been the least bit interested in politics was glued to the tv so I guess your election garnered a huge amount of interest not just in the US but internationally as well. I think the next 4 years are going to be extremely interesting for all...
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I don't think it's proponents do a good job of explaining its benefits. It HAS to be explained to people how it forces candidates to talk to, and court, all different kinds of Americans, not just city folk or high density areas. I think if people understood it that way, there would be a lot less whining about a popular vote system. People would understand why it's fine just the way it is.
OMG Please take him he's all yours you already graciously adopted Justin Bieber so you guys apparently like the name ;)
Lots of ads for Outdaughtered. I noticed that they have marathons of the show on Monday and Tuesday. Looks like the Busbys are TLC's new darlings.
They are also pushing the Married By Mom and Dad and Sister Wives, both premiering on the 27th. Nothing at all for K+8, even though they premier on the 22nd.
I can't wait to see Milo scrambling to excuse all of Kate's bad behavior. Will she blame editing? Stress? Jon? She appears to be getting an early start in controlling the narrative, but it won't be so easy if TLC is throwing Kate to the wolves like they did in the RV episodes. And, of course, Milo will have to work hard to find someone else to blame for ratings. If this season drops below 1M, will the show be over? How low will this season's ratings go? Can't wait to see!
**Fun fact: I went back and looked, and the highest-rated show of last season got almost the exact same number of viewers as the lowest-rated show from the season before it.
It's always somebody else's fault. I'm surprised Jon didn't get blamed:
Clinton aide’s bizarre explanation for Hillary’s humiliating loss
"It’s all James Comey’s fault.
Navin Nayak, head of the Hillary Clinton campaign’s research division, wrote in an email to senior campaign staff that the FBI director’s second letter absolving the former secretary of state a couple days before the election actually aided Donald Trump.
“We believe that we lost this election in the last week. Comey’s letter in the last 11 days of the election both helped depress our turnout and also drove away some of our critical support among college-educated white voters — particularly in the suburbs,” she wrote, according to Politico.
“We also think Comey’s 2nd letter, which was intended to absolve Sec. Clinton, actually helped to bolster Trump’s turnout.”
Clinton was set to win up until the last week of the election, according to Nayak.
“Voters who decided in the last week broke for Trump by a larger margin…,” she explained. “These numbers were even more exaggerated in the key battleground states.”
The FBI chief issued two bombshell letters to Congress right before the election. The first disclosed that agents had seized a laptop shared by Clinton aide Huma Abedin and her husband, Anthony Weiner, that contained more than 600,000 emails related to its investigation of Clinton’s private email server.
Several days later, Comey issued a second letter saying the FBI had analyzed the new materials and hadn’t changed its conclusion that there was no reason to prosecute Clinton.
Nayak said the second letter “energized Trump supporters.”
She also noted that after record early voting numbers, there was a significant drop in turnout in cities like Philadelphia, Raleigh-Durham, Milwaukee and Detroit when the first letter became public.
“In the end, late breaking developments in the race proved one hurdle too many for us to overcome,” Nayak said."
Nancy said... 68
OMG Please take him he's all yours you already graciously adopted Justin Bieber so you guys apparently like the name ;)
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Well Nancy, I'll agree with you about Bieber, but , (Canadian way here) so sorry, Trudeau was my choice this last election. We'll see if that was a mistake or not, but Harper's time was up...sorry again IMO of course...sorry.
He's married, but judging by the pictures he's miserable and definitely looking for someone else. Even an American.
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I am so there! He needs to do no more searching.
I can't wait to see Milo scrambling to excuse all of Kate's bad behavior. Will she blame editing? Stress? Jon? She appears to be getting an early start in controlling the narrative, but it won't be so easy if TLC is throwing Kate to the wolves like they did in the RV episodes. And, of course, Milo will have to work hard to find someone else to blame for ratings. If this season drops below 1M, will the show be over? How low will this season's ratings go? Can't wait to see!
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It will be Jeff's fault, and Kate sank into depression after the break-up and his engagement to someone else. Her broken heart has not yet been mended. Sing it, Milo.
"And how can you mend a broken heart?
How can you stop the rain from falling down?
How can you stop the sun from shining?
What makes the world go round?"
Tucker's Mom said... 51
FlimsyFlamsy said... 50
Once you've installed permanent TV lighting in your house for ease of filming, you've blown the "small glimpses" illusion all to hell.
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We should start a "Once you..." meme.
Once you write a book of letters to your children and take it to a major publisher, there are no more small glimpses.
Once you film your kids on the potty, with their pants down around their ankles, there are no more small glimpses.
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Let's put a Jeff Foxworthy spin on it.
If you throw your toddler into his crib and beat him with a wooden spoon, you might be a Kate Gosselin.
If you hate your ex more than you love your kids, you might be a Kate Gosselin.
Nancy said... 68
OMG Please take him he's all yours you already graciously adopted Justin Bieber so you guys apparently like the name ;)
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Well Nancy, I'll agree with you about Bieber, but , (Canadian way here) so sorry, Trudeau was my choice this last election. We'll see if that was a mistake or not, but Harper's time was up...sorry again IMO of course...sorry.
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LMAO you are perpetrating the we always say sorry eh myth ;} I am also living with the NPD nightmare living the dream at the moment lol
I can only believe this is some sort of legal gambit, not that he really believes he'll ever again be paid for "entertaining" anyone.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/bill-cosby-expects-resume-his-career-once-sexual-assault-case-is-946532
I can only believe this is some sort of legal gambit, not that he really believes he'll ever again be paid for "entertaining" anyone.
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Did you see his latest defense? That he's "legally blind" and therefore can't take a look at his accusers in order to defend himself. Not only does that make no sense on so many different levels, but, wth? So now blind people can't be convicted of anything? Lol.
He is nothing like I ever expected. What a shame.
I DVR'd a ton of election coverage on CNN and MSNBC, and kept seeing nothing but Outdaughtered spots as I scanned through the commercials. Poor Schmoopie.
I do have a feeling all the Celebrity Apprentice alumni will be invited to one of the inaugural balls. Ooh, how about another Say Yes To The Dress crossover episode?
This time with TFW and her, um, good bra?
Fleecing (73)
I hadn't thought of Jeff! But… Kate claims there was never a relationship, so maybe Vann would be a better man to blame. Milo can claim that Kate, having only been on half a date in 7 years, was so devastated that Vann wasn't interested in her that she sank into a deep depression that could only be relieved by shrieking at her kids like a banshee (A little trivia: a banshee, in Welsh folklore, is also referred to as "the hag in the mist". That fits.)
I do have a feeling all the Celebrity Apprentice alumni will be invited to one of the inaugural balls.
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After all those seasons there's a LOT of them! And, a few of them really trashed him, so I don't know if they'll get an invite. I didn't realize though there's lots of balls so maybe they'll go to the D-lister lesser balls.
I do think though that some of his favorites will get invited to the best balls. Someone mentioned Leeza--for sure. Had Kate made more of an effort to keep up the relationship, she probably would have gotten an invite too.
jbnicholss still super excited that i got to drive by your house today😍
Well, I guess driving by the house is the next best thing to meeting K8 and her kids. She never even answered this young woman, doesn't that bother her in the slightest?
I really don't understand these people.
Nancy - I am out west, and voted Trudeau (and have always voted Liberal). Not all AB's or westerners loved Harper. And the only reason there is an NDP "nightmare", is because the the previous 40+ years of PC rule.
LOL - sorry all who don't know Canadian politics. See we can have "heated" discussions as well! ; )
I do think though that some of his favorites will get invited to the best balls. Someone mentioned Leeza--for sure. Had Kate made more of an effort to keep up the relationship, she probably would have gotten an invite too.
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It was me!
I still cringe when TFW ran out and hugged Leeza before Leeza's husband could get to her and he stood back and quietly waited until TFW thought it was OK for him to come and hug her. The way TFW waved at L's husband to come over was infuriating.
She had no right to do that.
Gladys says any rumors about discord at Gosselin Manor is the just the #TrashyTabloids spreading lies. So when we saw that picture of TFW lifting that same daughter's dress and smacking her behind, she was...what, Gladys? Killing a bee? Putting out a fire? Using her child's behind as a percussion instrument for a family sing-along?
The only thing that note is "proof positive" of is that these poor children continue to be emotionally manipulated by their mother. And she's disturbed enough to take pride in it
And remember Jamie hitting on one of them too.
Becca
And I could tell you stories about Bill that would not shock any of you, as a young Democrat in this state that are as true as true can be. The Old Post Office disco, lots and lots of cocaine and if anyone was grabbing p***y, well, let's just say, I give you one guess.
I have read this blog for years but rarely comment. I just have a quick comment on the election results and the opinion of some in this country that the uneducated, racist etc, etc blue collar workers made a mistake in the way they voted.
I currently live in a red, fly over state. I was born and raised in another red, fly over state! I did not vote for Trump. Honestly, he scares me. However, many of my family did. I don't understand all of their reasons but it is NOT because they are racist and ignorant!
There were six of us. We are a farm family from a small town. All six of us have - at minimum- a 4 year college degree and many of us have a Master's degree. All of our spouses have college degrees. My immediate family (siblings, spouses, nieces, nephews) include 1 MD, 2 lawyers, nurses, teachers, social workers accountant, and yes, farmers, among others. My oldest nephew applied to colleges like MIT and graduated from Cal Tech. They are all good-hearted, hard working, intelligent people. Growing up my parents didn't tolerate treating anyone poorly- it didn't matter what their religion, race or political opinion.
Personally, I was not happy with the election results but I hate the way Trump's voters are being portrayed. Most of them are just like my family who are struggling to make a living with many of the current policies in place.
Thanks for letting me vent!
While TFW was busy posting yet another puppy picture with a note from one of the kids telling TFW how much she loves her, Jon posted a thank you to all the Veterians. Which was more appropriate Milo. And BTW, who here believes that the puppy wouldn't have tried to get that note and rip it up? I know mine would have because it's, well, PAPER and that's just about the best thing in the world. Also, we now know that she kennels them and I'm thinking that they spend a good bit of time in there.
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Not one thing wrong with kenneling dogs. So stop making it sound like these puppies live 24/7 in them. They clearly don't.
UGH.
Vee
Why are they using their crates so much anyway?
They're not suckling at the teat. They should long be housebroken by now and old enough to be trusted to sleep on their beds and not destroy anything while you leave the house for a couple hours.
Poor training
Not even close. I still kennel my almost 1.5 year old. She likes her kennel, and when I get ready to leave her out for a walk over to the neighbors she kennels up. We will get there, when she is ready. Why set up a PUPPY for a disaster. No way I would leave a German Shep pup in the house alone, or 2. Lawd no.
I wanted to say, the Outdaughtered marketing is taking a page straight from the Gosselins. Chaos, screaming, disorganization! babies everywhere!
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Buzz is taking his media tour very seriously. Discussing dressing 6 kids for multiple photo shoots per day and the need for several different outfits per day. He posted a pic and received flack at the abundance of clothing per kid. Can't have them photographed in the same thing twice. Nightline is following them the entire 6 days in NYC. Poor babies. 6 days out of their routine certainly seems not in THEIR best interests.
And the poor Gardner family has admitted to filming Rattled again, but that is just a bit show. They are also hitting their youtuber followers up not so subtly to subscribe and read their blogs and buy Ashley's makeup, blankets and all the other stuff mentioned in their vlogs. I think I'd like a youtube channel. Seems like easy money.
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Vee, I have never kenneled my dogs. I left them every day when I went to work, they had free run of the house and never, NEVER was there a problem. They never got into trash, chewed furniture, went to the bathroom in the house. Maybe I've been lucky. If I felt I needed to put my dog in a crate, well I wouldn't get a dog. To each his own.
Sad but true (#81), why would TFW have remorse about ignoring the mediocre? They're mediocre!
But imagine if that same woman had tweeted that she had 8 free passes for Hershey Park for this weekend and wanted to gift TFW and the 7 kids with them. Something tells me that would've pinged TFW's radar.
Deliverance, my experience is similar to yours. I have never crated any of our pets. We do have a "quiet space" tucked into our bedroom corner. Annie can retreat there whenever she wants to be alone.
Maybe I have been fortunate. I haven't had a couch chewed up. Our Min Pins have been easy to house train. In Illinois we had a doggie door. Here in Texas, there is a puppy pad for emergencies or when we aren't home for several hours. Annie much prefers to go outside and lets us know when she needs to.
Years ago, I had an adopted Greyhound. I suspect he lived 98% of his time in a crate before coming to my home. I could not do that to him again. He loved following the sun spots around the house for his naps.
I have a neighbor who crates her small dog. Seems to work in their home. I would think that it might confuse the dog because the crate is used for punishment (i.e. dog broke the rule and jumped up on the couch) and for his sleeping place.
I'm sorry that you took exception to my post Vee but I didn't say anything about THW's puppies being kenneled 24/7. All I said was they probably spent a good bit of time in there. Why did I say this? Because from her previous posts it seems like the golden child puppy has the run of the house. Also, that whole thing with the note, if my guy finds even a scrap of paper he's in heaven and he would have found a way to rip that note through the bars.
I've never kenneled my bulldogs. They always pick a quiet spot and go there when they want to chill. We take our bullies with us when we travel and never once have we had a problem with chewing or accidents in hotel rooms. My puppy was born the day after hers and unless we're going to be gone for hours, he's got the run of the house and he hasn't chewed anything up (yet). During potty training he was blocked off in the kitchen and breakfast nook area and that's where we put him if we're going to be gone for an extended period of time. At 6 1/2 months my puppy can "hold it" until we get home and hasn't had an "accident" in the house for ages. Even when he was on medication that made him go more than normal he let us know when he wanted to go out. No, he's not a perfect puppy and he does have his moments and probably will, at some point, chew something he shouldn't.
If she kennels, she kennels, but if she's going to continue to kennel she probably needs to get a bigger one because when the dog is sitting in it and her ears hit the top of the cage the kennel is probably too small.
We'll have to agree to disagree on crates. The purpose of crate training was actually not to prevent your house from being destroyed--they assumed you can train your dog not to do that. What the purpose was, is potty training. For the dog to develop an understanding of what it means to "hold it" while you were gone, since most dogs won't soil their crates out of instinct. Once they develop an understanding of what bladder control is, they can be weaned off the crate, and it should only be necessary to use it if you're gone for longer than usual
Crate training for adult dogs and older puppies should be for:
Guests over at the house who don't like dogs
Traveling with the dog
Maintenance people in the house doing repairs who request you put the dog away.
And, that's about it.
I have the crate out with the door OPEN, and he goes in and out as he likes for naps, and that's about it.
There is no reason to put an adult dog or even a 6 month old in a crate every time you leave the house. Take them to school and start teaching them how to behave themselves without being locked up in a jail. Dogs this age should not be destroying the house.
I'm wondering how much Zorro is out of his cage now that the puppies allegedly are running around the house. Is that bird confined to his cage all of the time or does she kennel the puppy when Zorro is on the loose?
I agree with admin. The idea of the crate is for housebreaking. Give a puppy too much room, and he will soil one area of the crate. It defeats the whole purpose of crating.
Good convo on crate training.
I think it's an essential training element for socialization (not the exact word for it, but). The crate is helpful for housebreaking, and essential, for me. Some kind of restriction is needed, and I think everyone here gets that.
I also think the crate is good for other things, as Admin said, and I'll add that it helps to have the dog understand the concept of the crate if they are ever in a situation where you have no choice, like the vet or hospital.
I also muzzle train so that in the case of injury, if my dog is in pain and panicked, I and everyone else can handle them safely.
I don't want their first experience to be frightening.
We have a crate for our lab and a pen for our bichon. I do crate them depending on the situation, like having work done in the house and people in and out with doors open etc.
Our lab still likes to counter surf, so I have to be very careful!
Otherwise, the dogs just hang out and I don't know, play poker or something. Maybe make crank phone calls and rearrange my sock drawer.
All of our dogs have availed themselves of their crates at will, and that's exactly what you want to see happen.
We also kennel/board them, but that's like sending your kids off to their favoritest camp ever at the facility we use. It's in the country with big play areas, walking trails, swimming and most of all, the most amazing owner and staff, whose lives are dogs.
Blowing In The Wind said... 95
I'm wondering how much Zorro is out of his cage now that the puppies allegedly are running around the house.
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That's the thing. I would never trust 2 GSD puppies/youngsters unsupervised around Zorro. Their prey instinct could lead to them going after Zorro at any cost.
They could easily jump up and knock his cage over, and maybe even get to him.
Sing it, Milo.
"And how can you mend a broken heart?
How can you stop the rain from falling down?
How can you stop the sun from shining?
What makes the world go round?"
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Sing it, Milo.
Let me help you mend
Your broken heart
Let me breathe again
I'm wondering how much Zorro is out of his cage now that the puppies allegedly are running around the house. Is that bird confined to his cage all of the time or does she kennel the puppy when Zorro is on the loose?
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Is the bird still alive now that he's not her shiny new toy? She needs to post a daily photo with him holding up a copy of the current newspaper.
What are the non-fans tweeting about -- a school trip and Kate lying? The note doesn't say when the trip was taken, and there was an overnight trip earlier in the week.
Is the bird still alive now that he's not her shiny new toy? She needs to post a daily photo with him holding up a copy of the current newspaper.
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Yeah, I'd like to see proof of life ;-)
It has been a loooooong time since TFW posted her buddy puddy, Zorro.
I don't think he is still with us.
Another look back? This is one of the most boring shows ever. Will Jon be alive in the 10 years ago stuff? Probably not. What has changed in 10 years? Virtually nothing. Kate can't pick them up to spank them any more. She's still a narcissist who yells and screams and has no love for her children.
P.S. I believe the note was written by Kate not Leah. She needs a little online love.
Tucker's Mom - Do you think the crate that the puppy was in is an appropriate size? I don't have experience with that but would think that if the sitting dog's ears touch to top enough to bend over and poke through the top a little it might be time for a new crate. As I said, I not have experience with crates so I could be wrong.
That bird cage better be lined with President elect Trump newspapers or I don't believe it.
The closest thing of a mention to Zorro was when TFW got on Instagram and described her household and included her "feather kid." But maybe she just wanted to keep up the illusion of the menagerie, to go with the "chaotic fun" story line. Then again, calling the police on your ex 3 times seems like more than enough chaos.
All the golden platter adventures those kids have gotten will never erase the memories of the horrid way their mother treated their father.
It seems Leah did not write that note....notice the exclamation mark after the word safe and the line before Leah. It just does not sound like something a kid would write and thew hand writing looks like Kate's.
This note talk had me remembering an old J&K+8 episode. When TFW went to work at the dialysis clinic on a Saturday, and left a note for M and C asking them to obey Daddy and be helpful -- something like that.
But it suddenly made me wonder if TFW was really still working at the clinic, or if that was just fodder for an episode? After all that's happened, it's certainly easy to doubt things that were presented as facts on the show.
We know there was still tons of help in the picture. So maybe TFW had already quit for good, and TLC just thought it would make an interesting show to have her away all day, and chaotic fun would ensue as Jon watched all 8 kids himself.
I am unreasonably looking forward to Admin's recaps of the new shows. That is, if she's still willing (*averts eyes humbly*) to write them for us!
PA Dutch Mom said... 100
What are the non-fans tweeting about -- a school trip and Kate lying? The note doesn't say when the trip was taken, and there was an overnight trip earlier in the week.
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It just seems a bit odd to be posting that three days after you took a picture of it (the trip actually left on Tuesday, right?). Unless the picture was taken that morning (Friday), in which case, the note was on the crate for three days? That doesn't sound like Kate, and would the dogs really have left it alone all that time?
Nope, my money's on Kate staging the whole thing. Maybe she didn't write the note, but she sure didn't leave it stuck to that crate for three days. It was probably left elsewhere and she decided #NookiePookie would provide the perfect backdrop for such tender feelings. She makes it so easy not to believe her.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 108
This note talk had me remembering an old J&K+8 episode. When TFW went to work at the dialysis clinic on a Saturday, and left a note for M and C asking them to obey Daddy and be helpful -- something like that.
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Flimsy, IIRC, she went to the dialysis clinic and was doing something on the machine and she broke something on it and or did something wrong. I just can't believe a film crew would be allowed in to film!
HIPPA!!!
Unless they made special arrangements to ask the patients who wanted to. The tight schedule of the chair times, UGH!!! I just hope they heavily compensated the patients that were filmed without that greedy gripping about her being the only one being paid!
I haven't see the episode.
I knew that wasn't TFW's handwriting when I first saw the note. No 12 yr. old puts a line near their name and say safe.
She is mentally ill.
NJGal51 said... 104
Tucker's Mom - Do you think the crate that the puppy was in is an appropriate size? I don't have experience with that but would think that if the sitting dog's ears touch to top enough to bend over and poke through the top a little it might be time for a new crate. As I said, I not have experience with crates so I could be wrong.
November 12, 2016 at 9:45 PM
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The overall size is small and should be replaced with a larger crate.
When you first crate train a puppy or dog who is also not house trained, it's important to not give them too much room, lest they have an area to urinate or defecate, and still be able to rest comfortably away from their business.
A dog generally does not want to be dirty, or near their own urine and feces. This is why crates are so useful in potty training.
When a dog is house broken, I think it's a good idea to provide a more spacious crate to allow comfortable movement.
Crates should never nee too small for the dog or puppy to stand, sit or lay comfortably.
My other concern is that like a baby's crib, no toys should be in there with them, ever. If the dog gets bored or anxious, it might chew and choke.
We had adopted a lab mix who was very nervous left alone in her crate at first. She tore up a couple crate pads/beds, and we had to remove them until she got the notion that crates are good, comfy and a dog's safe place.
I think crates are a great tool and have many uses but certainly don't need to be used unless necessary, if you want your dog to have free roam of the house.
Sad but true (#109), yes, TFW has herself to blame for our skepticism. She looked America in the eye and said by putting her family on TV, she made their lives our business. She has received countless benefits from celebrity -- money, popularity, job opportunities, trips, renovations, and on and on. That's why it's particularly annoying when Gladys jumps to her defense in response to people's criticism. As if TFW was some valiant, struggling single mom trying to make ends meet in the private sector, being harangued by the masses.
TFW is a public figure who clearly relishes being a public figure when she's reaping the rewards of fame. Well, toots, you're not exempt from the downside of fame. No one is. And it's naive to think it's possible.
@FlimsyFlamsy (113) The thing that annoys me about Milo is that when Kate uploads one picture and claims so and so did this for her or when Kate said something.Milo jumps to the conclusion that this is without a doubt refutable proof that haters are wrong.To me,she sounds like she's so desperate and so insecure that she needs Kate to upload a picture or say somethin to prove haters wrong.We have seen her/him do this multiple times before.Sometimes even makes stuff up,like when Aaden and Alexis were in the basement,she claimed that this proves that haters are wrong about the kids not having friends.Even though no hater has ever claimed this.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 113
Sad but true (#109), yes, TFW has herself to blame for our skepticism. She looked America in the eye and said by putting her family on TV, she made their lives our business.
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Not to mention, she's been caught out in lies so many times, you think she would have learned by now.
I was thinking about Milo and her devotion to Kate in this entire sad Gosselin saga. She reminds me of literature's Puck, a mischievous little jester who, if crossed, could turn on you in a heartbeat.
Or, if a stage show were produced, she would be the perfect Sancho Panza, following her master while Kate chases windmills. When asked why Milo does this, her reply would be...
"I like her, I really like her,
Tear out my fingernails one by one, I like her,
I don't have a very good reason
Since I've been with her, cuckoo-nuts have been in season."
Kate's response:
"A little gossip, a little chat
A little idle talk of this and that
If no one listens then it's just as well
At least I won't get caught in any lies I tell..."
Sorry, but my students are studying Cervantes right now, and Milo reminds me so much of Quixote's sidekick!
Carry on!
Jeanne (103): "P.S. I believe the note was written by Kate not Leah. She needs a little online love."
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Do you mean she's not getting any offline love from Vann the Mann?
What about Mrs. Gladys? I thought they shared their love in so many other ways! Is Kate singing, "I can't get no satisfaction 'cause I try and I try and I try."
Sorry, but my students are studying Cervantes right now, and Milo reminds me so much of Quixote's sidekick!
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Great post! Yes, Kate and those windmills ;-)
Kate's response:
"A little gossip, a little chat
A little idle talk of this and that
If no one listens then it's just as well
At least I won't get caught in any lies I tell..."
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Oh, yes! From Man of La Mancha. Perfect for Kate. It should be her theme song!
Very interesting view from a former housekeeper of the Ramsey's.
Also, JonBenet was named for her father, John Bennett Ramsey.
Benet is French for Bennett.
http://rense.com/general11/benet.htm
Kate, close down your Twitter. It's doing nothing and pulling the plug would cut down on Milo's workload.
Very interesting view from a former housekeeper of the Ramsey's.
Also, JonBenet was named for her father, John Bennett Ramsey.
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Her middle name was Patricia, so she was named for both parents.
My cousin worked for him at Access Graphics. Said he was a decent guy, dedicated, and went out of his way for his employees.
Aw, poor Kate, having to defend herself on her own IG. It's a crying shame.
desquitadomaureen83 Poor Nanuq. I hate seeing dogs in cages!! 😯
kateplusmy8 Well unfortunately when I am away, it's the safest place for my puppies! It makes me sad too but she willingly goes in sometimes 'just because'! Leah knew I'd go right to let her out which is why she put the note there 😉 @desquitadomaureen83
The Real Crime profile FBI folks have me pretty convinced someone in the house killed JonBenet, accidentally. Too many things would have had to come together for an outsider to do it.
I think they were good people who made some fateful decisions that night to cover it up in an effort to save what was left of the family, the living. We will never know for sure what happened in that house that night.
Of course you don't want LA being the one to elect the president, because your candidate would never win. It's not the 1800's. Candidates can get their message out to the entire country very easily.
One person, one vote is 100% fair. The Electoral College is an antiquated system that gives undue power to non-urban voters. You like that because that power rests in the hands of those who skew conservative. Just admit it and stop with the ridiculous "fairness" argument. California hasn't "mattered" in presidential campaigns for eons and yet we still manage to vote without whining about how nobody holds rallies regularly in our state.
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You lost. Move on. Hillary and Obama have to spend time out of their busy schedules tomorrow to address you, the whiners, because you won't move the F on and people are getting HURT.
In the case of Ross Harris, the hot car dad, the jury is suppose to get the case tomorrow afternoon.
Hopefully, it won't take long to get a verdict.
I don't know when Kate actually stopped working at dialysis. I started dialysis there in May 2009 and she wasn't working there. I was then on home dialysis by the time they filmed the episode with Kate and the kids there. I would never have let them film at my chair. Dialysis is bad enough without a bunch of kids roaming around. But would any of us have been surprised if in the earlier episode they said she went to work but in reality she went to a spa or shopping? We have no reason to believe her twittersodes or Instagrasodes.
Also, all this "trump woulda lost if we had a popular vote" is utter nonsense. The fact is, we haven't the foggiest notion who would have won if it were a popular vote system. Trump didn't BOTHER to court the popular vote because Trump knew what rules he was playing under. Trump spent time in rural, low population areas in key swing states because he knew he needed a certain combination of electoral votes from those states. Had he been playing by a completely different set of rules he probably would have been able to make up the few popular votes he was shy. But, he didn't bother to court masses of votes because that.wasn't.the.rules. Hillary fans can't stand that it's clear in hindsight how brilliant his campaign was. They can't stand it.
He played by the rules given to him and won under those rules. Give him a different set and he may very well have won under those rules oto. In basketball, if the rules are I can only get points for 2 point shots, all I'm gonna take are 2 point shots. But then you turn around and say I lost the 3-point shot game? When really, you have no idea how many 3 pointers I would or wouldn't have made under such a system, because I never bothered to shoot them.
The paternalistic liberals would just LOVE to shut up all the rest of the red America and tell them how to think. Look at the county-by-county map. You can barely even see any blue on it. A "sea of red" even 60 Minutes admitted tonight. It's shocking. God, what awful, sore losers. This NEVER would have happened had Hillary won. We would have moved on the next day and got on with life just as we did under Obama. Unbelievable. Truly.
Democratic societies are not founded on majority rules. Go read the history books again. They are based on a BALANCE, where no majority can ever get too powerful without several layers of checks and balances. That means that sometimes the minority will win out. They are actually based on allowing EVERYONE to have a fair shot even if for example you live in a rural, low population area. They were designed in fact to ensure that no three or four populated areas are telling the entire rest of the country how to live.
The electoral college was designed to check the majority and keep it from becoming too concentrated, and it did just that this week. It did its job and the Founding Fathers would be proud. When you look at the red-blue map, it should be crystal clear to you why the red candidate should and did win.
If Hillary didn't like these rules she didn't have to run. The next time some up and coming trailblazer from a party you don't like is able to get the NY and LA crowd going but little else, you'll be glad people much smarter than us insisted on the electoral college.
Locals...Lancaster County has the highest healthcare.gov premiums in the state, even higher than Philly.
Admin--we get it. You were a Trump supporter and he won.
Why do you constantly have to disparage Hillary and her supporters? Rule #3 doesn't seem to apply when it came to this election.
You lost. Move on.
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You won. Move on. Or are you going to keep disparaging those who voted for Hillary? Why do you need to keep defending Trump's win?
Sort of reminds me of the Kate supporters. Kate(Trump) is good, and anyone who is against her(Trump) is bad.
Admin--IMO, you've become Trump's Milo.
In addition to calling out the FBI for the loss, the Clinton campaign is blaming everyone but Santa Claus. Report is that they popped the bubbly stuff on the campaign plane on election day.
"Nayak also acknowledged anger at global institutions, a desire for change after a two-term Democratic president, votes for third-party candidates, and the "unprecedented task" of electing the nation's first female president as hurdles to the campaign's success."
Kate is a Twit, I haven't brought the issue up at all except in response to people who keep bringing it up. Don't blame people for responding to comments initiated completely by others and there is no need to throw nasty personal attacks at me. I have been nothing but kind to you and praising of your historian-like abilities and in response I get compared to Milo. Seriously? Go watch Michael Moore's Trumpland, he has an understanding of why and how Trump got elected on a level few others in his camp want to study, and he manages to express it without making others feel badly and stupid for their choice. I don't mind him, because even though I'll never share his political views, I respect him for being knowledgable about them, knowledgeable about the other side and the people who hold opposing views and conveying this all all respectfully, most of the time. The same can't be said for much of the rest of the party. Michael Moore is one of the only liberals to actually go around the rust belt and TALK to people, and that is when he started to predict Trump was gonna win this. Had Hillary had half the listening abilities he did she might have won too.
The Founding Fathers set up the EC because they studied as scholars pure democracies and discovered that pure democracies, historically, always fell. But, limited representative democratic republics, were strong, and that is what they created. Giving slave states a slight edge may have been a consequence that those from the slave states liked, but it was hardly the reason the EC was set up. How incredibly arrogant all these people most of whom have never even cracked open a constitutional law textbook wanting to flush down the toilet something that such careful thought and research was put into.
The "slave state" argument about the electoral college is not only completely baseless as a "reason" the EC was set up, but isn't even relevant. PA and the rust belt won the election. Not the "slave states." Under a popular vote, a candidate can afford to write off PA and the rust belt because they can make up the votes elsewhere. Does anyone live there and would you prefer that? Do you like not mattering anymore? Under the EC, EVERYONE matters. Everyone.
a desire for change after a two-term Democratic president,
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Good grief, they're even passive aggressively blaming Obama for this? Obama has been the most mature out of all of them.
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" the "unprecedented task" of electing the nation's first female president as hurdles to the campaign's success."
Utter nonsense. This country can and will elect a woman any day of the week and twice on Sundays. But women voters aren't about to elect somebody they don't like. I don't vote because of someone's gender. That's not feminism. The entire point of feminism is to be treated equally to men, therefore, I vote on who is the best person for the job, regardless of your gender. If you happen to be female, great. Put up a great woman candidate or someone at least better than the opposition and she'll be elected in a landslide.
I bet those same people wouldn't blame Sarah Palin's loss on her vagina. She didn't lose because she's a woman. She lost because the other side was better. Why is that SO hard for them to say?
In addition to calling out the FBI for the loss, the Clinton campaign is blaming everyone but Santa Claus. Report is that they popped the bubbly stuff on the campaign plane on election day.
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Politico has really good insider political stories and doesn't seem to overtly lean one way or the other. There was definitely stuff about the arrogance and people popping champagne prematurely. But, they were saying a lot of stuff about Hillary herself being really nervous, some higher ups in the campaign seeing this coming but nearly afraid to say it and what's more having no idea how to fix it, and that the real nail in the coffin was the second look by the FBI, that's when some of them including Hillary herself started to feel like they could be really screwed. Some of that stress and uncertainty was playing out in her health. She was NOT coasting along thinking this was over, ever.
They also had a story, I swear to God, that people in the Trump campaign had it on good authority a bomb was about to drop on Hillary about a week before the election. I don't know who THEIR sources are, but hot damn, it happened just as they said. I love that publication.
Vee there were many more comments than that This morning but I didn't publish most of them because they were political. People don't want political comments but then get upset when comments aren't published. You can't win. If posters want politics to stop they need to take ownership of what they are posting and stop contributing to it themselves. If everyone. Respects that we will be able to move on much quicker. But judging by the comments I'm not sure I believe people really don't want to discuss this because they keep talking about it.
I could easily say Hillary has her Milos here but I happen to think that is a terribly nasty thing to say among fellow posters who have been together for years.
Jeanne said... 127
I don't know when Kate actually stopped working at dialysis.
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She was gone long before May 2009, as that was only a month before she filed for divorce. My guess is she left early in 2008.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 138
I could easily say Hillary has her Milos here but I happen to think that is a terribly nasty thing to say among fellow posters who have been together for years.
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Yet, you call out "fellow posters who have been together for years" for supporting Hillary. You have shown that you have no respect for those that disagree with you.
Jillygee it was in response to being called "Milo", twice actually. That is not in keeping with the spirit of our porch. I never, ever name called like that. That side is just as mean and nasty as they proclaim to have been against all this time. It took losing for it to come out.
No one has been "called out" for anything. What are you talking about? There have been numerous discussions and debates from people on both sides on some interesting issues. No one was twisting anyone's arm to contribute. Good grief.
Oh god.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 23m23 minutes ago
Did you hear? We are just 8 days away from that special day! On #TLC Nov.22 at 10pm #KatePlus8 is back! #KidsPupsAndFun @kateplusmy8
8 days till the 2nd, and I am seeing more and more ads (on ID) for Little People, Big World. Still nothing at all for K+8. I have never seen such a lack of promotion for any TLC show. Poor Kate is having to take the initiative and remind her fans. So we know she's noticed the lack of TLC promo.
Seriously, I know I mentioned Trump and Billy Bush's recorded conversation, but at the time he said it Trump was a reality tv star. Since he was in The Apprentice with Kate, and it's "reality tv," I thought it was applicable to this blog.
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I think that was fine and is applicable. This election had an unusually strong link to Kate, and it felt quite on topic most of the time, so personally, I never minded it. Most people could handle the discussion without throwing out accusations someone in Milo. Totally uncalled for. That really is a case of you should just scroll rather than say something like that.
http://abc7ny.com/news/making-a-murderer-nephew-brendan-dassey-ordered-released/1606531/
Brendan Dassey ordered released.
Admin, you don't have to call us names. You said it all with your vote. I left the porch a long time ago when i found out who owned the house.
The jury came through. Justin Ross Harris guilty.
Admin, you don't have to call us names. You said it all with your vote.
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Transference. Imputing the character or traits or choices of a candidate on the voters themselves. A phenomenon that has left 60 million voters scratching their heads, and caused the end of otherwise many good FB friendships. It's very unfortunate to take that approach, you could be missing out on a lot that other people have to offer. Many people who claim to be supportive of diversity when it comes down to it actually doesn't want to be diverse at all in their life. They only want to be surrounded by people who think just like them. It's dangerous.
OK, let me try again.
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 23m23 minutes ago
Did you hear? We are just 8 days away from that special day! On #TLC Nov.22 at 10pm #KatePlus8 is back! #KidsPupsAndFun @kateplusmy8
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Milo - Shouldnt the hashtag read #KidsPupsAndFun-MINUSONE!
I don't want everyone to think like me but I do want everybody to have the same rights. Your leader plans to take away wimen's choice and other rights that have been fought for. Open your eyes! You're a good German!
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I think it's very noble to vote because you think you are voting for the best candidate to preserve your rights. But most people vote that way, as did I. The other side were simply voting to protect the rights of an unborn child, among other rights they believe in, like the right to bear arms and support one's family with a decent job that's not going to get outsourced abroad. What do you do when 60% of Americans including more than half of women themselves don't think a woman has ANY right to abort her child? I thought majority rules, or does it only rule when you candidate loses? If majority rules, should not abortion be illegal if only 40% of Americans support it? I mean, fair is fair, right?
A good German? You just proved my point. The other side is beyond, beyond the pale. Look at yourselves. Really look. You sound like exactly what you claimed to hate.
Admin, you don't have to call us names. You said it all with your vote.
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Agree, and I hope we can separate persons from their vote.
KKK endorsed Trump
KKK hate x,y,z people
Trump hates x,y,z people.
This is fallacious and just because a woman voted for Trump doesn't mean she endorses pussy grabbing or islamophia etc. This election's nuances are going to be digested and ruminated upon for many years to come.
Admin has run this blog diplomatically for many years now. I hope we can all give her the benefit of the doubt, with tempers running very high, and come together again.
That's my hope anyway ;-)
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OK, let me try again. . . .
Milo - Shouldnt the hashtag read #KidsPupsAndFun-MINUSONE!
Perfection! Start tweeting that to TLC.
Well said, Tucker's Mom. This is exhausting. Can't we all just move forward? It was incredibly disappointing, but someone had to win and someone had to lose. The saddest part is that this was the lowest voter turnout in 20 years. That is the real tragedy.
Collin really is just a distant memory for Milo. She phased him right on out. Damn if some special needs kids is going to stop the fun, love, chaos and pups.
I'm not a lawyer so I won't try to use lots of words just to tell you you're wrong for not thinking like me (which is what you are doing). You are doing what you believe which promotes hate, homophobic attacks, xenophobia and antisemitism
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That is not true. He pulled millions of votes from categories that were "supposed" to and very often vote Democrat. Minorities (a whopping 29% of Hispanics), women (42% overall, and more than half of white women), and gays (15%) voted for him in large numbers, you can't explain that away. If it were .05% of those groups who voted for him you might have something to your argument. Are you saying that the 15% of gays and lesbians who voted for him were voting for someone the lynch mob them and their friends? Get real. But the more you spread rhetoric that that is what this vote was about, the more upset people will be, and violence WILL happen. A self-fulfilling prophesy. It scares me but I think some people want that to happen, just so they can say SEE, SEE! Tragic.
He's bringing his closest advisor, a known anti-semite and white supremacist with him to the white house. Surely you can understand how people are concerned about that.
He's bringing his closest advisor, a known anti-semite and white supremacist with him to the white house. Surely you can understand how people are concerned about that.
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Being concerned about this or that is perfectly reasonable and understandable. I had my concerns about various people the Clintons associated with.
But taking the next step, as has been so often done, and imputing the concern onto the voters themselves, is transference. That's what I object to. I.e. "I've decided Trump's advisor is racist, therefore, all Trump voters are racist."
That's the difference, and it's causing a very deep and unfair divide.
I never heard anyone say ALL his voters are racist. You cannot deny they are a segment that helped to elect him. And now they feel validated and enboldened.
I never heard anyone say ALL his voters are racist. You cannot deny they are a segment that helped to elect him. And now they feel validated and enboldened
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You're not really listening then because it's been said ad nauseum all trump supporters are racist. Matt Walsh wrote a very compelling piece about it and why the vote had nothing to do with racism. Like most voters I could care less what fringe group supports who. Every candidate had their crazy supporters. I vote on the issues and the candidate, not on who else is voting for them. The kkk always supports the republicans even though it's been decades since there has been a racist president. They likely support them more due to the gun issue than anything else. No one made a big deal about it in prior years. Double standard as usual.
ignorant. And no, that does not mean that every Trump voter is a racist. But if you think there is not a segment of this country that is angry that a) a black man became president and/or b) upset that the increasing diversity in the country is reducing the traditional white power structure, you are living in a fantasy world
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Yes they're fed up. With the economic situation. The exit polls were overwhelming. Jobs were the issue. your bizarre theory that racist America is simply fed up with a black president has a fatal flaw. Why didn't all the racist kkk troops rally behind Romney and get Obama out? They had a golden opportunity and didn't do it? And why didn't they rally to prevent Obama from being elected in the first place? Please. Nice try but it has no basis in anything but trying to write off a flawed cnadidate's loss as "racism" instead of actually facing the real reasons. Plus last I checked hillary was white so that really sounds ridiculous. Obama doesn't even like her so if my plan was to stick it to Obama I'd vote for her.
I repeat...his closest adviser is an anti-semite, white supremacist. That is not ok. Just no.
I repeat...his closest adviser is an anti-semite, white supremacist. That is not ok. Just no.
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His own daughter, son-in-law, and grandchildren are all Jewish. I'm not worried.
Israel is one factor I do vote on, the candidate that is the most supportive of the homeland is important to me, and I was satisfied with everything that was said about Israel.
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I repeat...his closest adviser is an anti-semite, white supremacist. That is not ok. Just no.
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Maybe this comment will get postedone.
YES!! This is a non issue,non debatable, it's just a NO
She's really digging deep.
kateplusmy8 My newest in my collection of hand written notes on the door of my room.. Thanks #PeaceLoveWorld - I borrowed your saying! #Mommagement
The sign (in her dreadful juvenile hand) reads:
Good
News
Only . . .
All other, please
keep to yourself . . .
Thanks
--Mommagement
"#Mommagement"? She'll hang her hat on anything. And seeing this note convinces me more than I was that she wrote that sweet little "Leah" note. The handwriting, the little dash in front of Mommagement. Bizarre and sad.
Oh and thank heaven she's got Milo's seal of approval on the #NewWord. She's "totally OK" with it. Did she really think it was necessary to translate Mommagement for the unwashed masses? She must think everyone is as dumb as her.
miloandjack2016 My DAD used to say..."Every flower has to grow thru dirt..." 😋 But a little sunshine aka good news sure speeds the process! W/all the weight on your shoulders daily, I would imagine positives from your kids....& your #FurBabies keep you going? @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016Is that supposed to be #MomManagement ? 😋 @kateplusmy8. Totally OK either way...LOL. #TiredEndOfTheDayMom. ❤
And a little sheeple love.
anastasiaruby There was a mean magazine cover about you on the grocery store rack today...I put a cooking magazine in front of it ✌️️❤️
kateplusmy8 Thanks! Well done! Cooking magazines tend to tell the truth about foods and the various recipes they write about, so GREAT choice:) @anastasiaruby
miloandjack2016 Ok...Im the slow one here! LOL. #Miss17 just informed me its SUPPOSED to say #mom- agement instead of #man- agement!! 😋 I stand corrected! @kateplusmy8
So now she's telling KATE she spelled her non-word wrong. LOL, watch out Milo.
YOU'RE not worried? Good for you. How many of your elderly relatives have numbers tatooed on their arms? How many aunts and uncles have you never met because they were taken as children never to be seen again? For an educated woman you really are .... Naive.
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I guess myself and a quarter of the Jewish population are hopelessly naive. Trump got more Jewish voters than McCain did or Bush did. Romney beat him, but only by a few points.
I'm really trying to understand what you think is going to happen. You honestly think Jewish people are in danger? He's going to tattoo them, catalogue them, place them back in concentration camps? Hurt them in ANY manner? Including his own family? You honestly think this is something we truly, as voters, should be worried about? If I thought for one second a candidate was seeking to harm this population I wouldn't think twice about withdrawing my vote. Like many conservatives I have always been fiercely in Israel's corner and with that comes fierce support of the Jewish population. My closest friend is Jewish, and she also voted for Trump, though she doesn't like him as a person. How can it be that he doesn't scare her or a quarter of the Jewish population? Or are a quarter just stupid and voting for their own demise? I hear a lot of "surely you can understand/see" and I would counter with, surely you can see why so many people are NOT worried about what you are worried about.
That's another thing constantly thrown out at voters--you MUST have been stupid to have voted for this. Except, some of the most educated, well read and knowledgable people I know voted for Trump, they could talk circles around most people about what goes on in this world including most people here.
This kind of accusation is not resonating. It's antagonizing. Newsflash, no one likes to be called stupid/naive/racist/homophobe or lumped in with a couple fringe members of the party they have absolutely no control over, and they really don't like it when it's not even true. Keep it up though, and you're probably losing next time too. This did NOT happen when Obama won. This is a lot of time wasted yelling and screaming at those who managed to figure out how to take back the government, wasting valuable time that could be spent figuring out how to win four years from now. The clock already started ticking a week ago. A week lost already.
Pew Research shows that Secy Clinton received over 70% of the Jewish vote and trump 24%. Swastikas have appeared in nearby communities along with trump + white power spray painted. And that's my only political comment!
I've been watching BBC's Doctor Foster. Did someone here recommend it? It's okay, not great, but worth watching.
kateplusmy8 Thanks! Well done! Cooking magazines tend to tell the truth about foods and the various recipes they write about, so GREAT choice:) @anastasiaruby
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Too bad the same can't be said of her cookbook.
Well there must be some truth to the latest things being printed about her or she'd be screaming "can we sue" at the top of her lungs. Bless her heart, she did herself in when she did that People cover/article and had a shit eating grin on her face in every picture while her son was very glaringly missing from all the chaotic fun that is their life.
Pew Research shows that Secy Clinton received over 70% of the Jewish vote and trump 24%. Swastikas have appeared in nearby communities along with trump + white power spray painted. And that's my only political comment!
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Here's my only political comment. Regarding the pre-election celebration victory (drinking champagne on election day before the polls closed)...the moral of the story is "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. You may end up with scrambled egg on your face."
Then you wipe it off, and you move on. You don't blame everyone and everything for your loss.
Agree, and I hope we can separate persons from their vote.
KKK endorsed Trump
KKK hate x,y,z people
Trump hates x,y,z people.
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I hated those logic questions on college boards! They gave me such a headache! Let x be true, let y be true, but we want to disprove y, then...
And, we're back to parentification.
Yes, Gladys, TFW's 8 children should be responsible for cheering up their poor mother, who has the weight of the world on her shoulders. Never mind that their beloved brother has been sent away. Or that their father is persona non grata. Or that their privacy has been taken away from them without their consent, and that their actions, emotions, and even personal notes, are up for public consumption. They need to take care of their 41-year-old mother. Does Gladys not realize how disturbing that is?
Those kids should not have to cheer up Kate. They should not have to massage her feet or back or any part of her. They should not be concerned about her safety. They should not have their mom always want to be competitive with them. They should not have to have every vacation filmed. And they should not have to earn enough to take care of the family.
Jeanne (#175), isn't it preposterous? These kids have a full day at school, homework, perhaps after school activities, and just the normal growing pains of being preteens and teens, and yet they're expected to take care of the emotional needs of their mother?
Who doesn't go to work all day, and has plenty of household help?
I've been watching BBC's Doctor Foster. Did someone here recommend it? It's okay, not great, but worth watching.
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About the 200th time she brushed her hair off her face I stopped watching. She drove me nuts.
In a way I'm glad that TFW will be on next week. Maybe we can move on and discuss ratings and move away from politics. I agree with you 100% Over and Out. Only time will tell what type of president he will be.
They need to take care of their 41-year-old mother. Does Gladys not realize how disturbing that is?
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No. Gladys only knows that Kate is her one true love and that all of her needs and wants must be taken care of. Kate is entitled to that. That's all that matters. Isn't that right, Gladys?
The blatant parentification is getting to the point where it's really disturbing. And the fans just keep praising it.
This is the kind of thing you see from teenagers who have a severely mentally ill parent, or a parent who is a client of Regional Center. They've learned to step in the shoes of the parent and fulfill that emotional role. This kind of thing shouldn't be seen with fully functioning, normal adults. Something is very wrong here.
Admin (#180), and it wouldn't be so bad if the kids had a foundation of normalcy with their dad. That could offer a sanctuary to them, and a safe place to land, and escape from their mother's seemingly endless emotional burdens. But TFW has sabotaged her children's relationship with their father.
She is their lifeline, and their primary connection to the planet.
I greatly hope some of them have a solid relationship with their father. But I'm also convinced any joy or pleasure found in his company must be either kept secret, or lied about, so as not to incur their mother's wrath. Once Mommy sued Daddy, the loyalty lines in that family were pretty clearly drawn. What a damaged household. And yet a week from today, it will be broadcast to the world as "chaotic fun." Sigh.
I don't know about her being mammagement but she is certainly a MOMAGER, which is defined as: A growing category of “bad” mother is the so-called “momager,” the woman who interferes with her famous children's affairs, exploits them, and contributes to their tarnished reputations.
So yeah, there you go Kate.
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I don't know about her being mammagement but she is certainly a MOMAGER. . . .
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Isn't "mammagement" Steve's job? :)
Is anyone watching Difficult People? It's a Hulu original and pretty funny.
K8 fits that definition of Momager ("bad" mother) as pointed out by kris @182 to a "T". Isn't that what has been said before - another Kris Jenner.
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Sad but true said...183
Isn't "mammagement" Steve's job? :)
Hee-Hee yes! After all he did pick them out for her ;-D
Kris (#182), your comment reminded me of an old SCTV skit about a talk show starring Brooke Shields and her mother Teri (played by Catherine O'Hara and Rick Moranis).
Teri embarrasses Brooke about something on camera, and Brooke replies, "I'm not your daughter -- I'm your ticket to ride!" It sure brings TFW and her 8 little tickets to mind.
No shout out from K8 to the Irwin family on this Steve Irwin Day at the Australia zoo.
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She just posted one of TLC's promo photos on IG. Collin's in the photo, and so several comments are asking if he's back or assuming he is. Wonder how that's gonna work out for her. She's not answering so far. Maybe they won't discuss it at all, but will cut him in here and there? We know they're not above crude fakery, far from it.
kateplusmy8 Kate Plus 8 returns NOVEMBER 22 at 10pm😉
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No shout out from K8 to the Irwin family on this Steve Irwin Day at the Australia zoo.
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If she ain't there, she don't care.
Sooo, Kate only wants her kids to give her news if it's good news? How is that good parenting? If one of the kids is being bullied, if they are worried about grades, if they got in a disagreement with someone--they can't come to their mother to discuss it. I can't imagine cutting off my kids and their concerns. They need that support at home. I suppose Kate thinks that note on her door is a way of showing her fans her "positive attitude", but in reality it is just bad parenting. She has no intention of there for her kids when they need her.
Milo's tweet yesterday about the show coming back next week literally got no replies (not even haters). But she won't give up, oh no, not not her.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
Next Tues. at 10pm on #TLC we celebrate 10yrs #LookingBack at #KatePlus8 Fun/beautiful memories! You survived Mom! @Kateplusmy8
They said I would
Never get this far.
They were right,
I got even further.
Since Kate looks back every year, I can only imagine the replays (Hannah's unnerwares, anyone?) that will be overflowing this hour of fakeness. Though it'll be hard to have a lot of the cutest moments if they have had to cut Jon out of everything.
Well bm, now that you've mentioned Steve Irwin Day, Milo will be sure to remind her.
How many 'Kate looks back' shows are they going to produce? Good Lord.
Layla (#191), remember when TFW bragged about letting the kids settle their own disputes while they were still in diapers? She wasn't trying to let them develop their own tools. She was just too lazy to be bothered with their silly little problems.
She's always appeared to be more like a zookeeper than a mother to those children.
So it's no surprise to me that they are still kept at arm's length, and are expected to navigate their lives on their own.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
Next Tues. at 10pm on #TLC we celebrate 10yrs #LookingBack at #KatePlus8 Fun/beautiful memories! You survived Mom! @Kateplusmy8
I just noticed, by leaving out the comma after "survived," Milo is basically saying the kids survived having Kate as a mother! Surely not her intent. LOL! She almost never fails to put her foot in it somewhere.
Here's a comment that got in before the magic eraser:
7813bellaprincess Is COLLIN back shame on you for sending him away your a MOTHER you should be able to under stand your own children and what is happening no your worrying about yourself and your TV money SHAME ON YOU you shouldn't have had so many children they should not put you back on YV make your own money or give the kids to John you treated him like shit too you are so mean to your kids SHAME ON YOU
From the comments, it's clear the fans on IG don't realize that the photo they're looking at (which includes Colline) was taken at least six months ago.
She is their lifeline, and their primary connection to the planet.
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That's by design. Kate is a classic abuser, who isolates her victims. Anyone who isn't on Kate's program is cast out of their lives. It sickens me that Kate has so thoroughly alienated some of them from their own father.
And, she's proud of it.
anastasiaruby There was a mean magazine cover about you on the grocery store rack today...I put a cooking magazine in front of it ✌️️❤️
kateplusmy8 Thanks! Well done! Cooking magazines tend to tell the truth about foods and the various recipes they write about, so GREAT choice:) @anastasiaruby
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It's going to take a lot more than another magazine to cover up what Kate's done to her children.
Funny thing is, if even 1/10th of it is true, this stupid sheep would still only worry about Kate, not the children.
Sad but true said... 167
miloandjack2016 Ok...Im the slow one here! LOL. #Miss17 just informed me its SUPPOSED to say #mom- agement instead of #man- agement!! 😋 I stand corrected! @kateplusmy8
So now she's telling KATE she spelled her non-word wrong. LOL, watch out Milo.
November 14, 2016 at 6:28 PM
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Oh, Milo, Milo. People have been calling Kate a momager for years now.
Just like Pimp Momager Kardashian.
By the way, when you go *further*, at some point, you got *this far* and passed it. So, "they" weren't right- "they" were wrong.
#Idiot
Notice Gladys started her countdown yesterday, when it was EIGHT days away from the premiere. She's so clever! Except that there are only 7 kids there now.
#K+7#ChaoticFun#CWho?
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