TFW should be taking to Twitter any time now to announce her live tweet party and promise a follow to those who quote a line from the show. Wait for it.
No, one example of many. And there is no evidence that this person was mentally ill but plenty that he was an asshole with a big chip on his shoulder.
It is hardly "petulance" to remain deeply concerned about infringements on civil rights, homophobic policies etc. Clearly you don't get it and never well, but the election of an incompetent, narcissistic reality star who is the puppet of the alt right is not something that people are going to "get over" in a week. Just because you don't give a shit about the treatment of your fellow citizens doesn't mean others are going to sit back and shut up. Sorry that bothers you so.
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Over the past eight years, I could show you daily, DAILY examples of that and similar behavior from fringe groups and the mentally ill. We had numerous hate motivated mass shootings, numerous anti-Islamic disturbances, numerous hate crimes and prejudice against gays and other groups. Obama was not blamed for such disturbances, not once, nor should he be. We had a long conversation here about the bigot Kim Davis. No one blamed Obama for her behavior. She is her own self and responsible for her own actions. But you can bet your bottom dollar if Kim Davis waited until today to deny gay marriages, you would be sitting here crying about Trump and how he emboldened her.
Nonsense. But by all means, when you don't like the president, it's all his fault. I cannot stand when people scapegoat for their own agenda, and no, that opinion won't change.
Oh, and there is no "homophobic" policy out there from this incoming administration. Another lie from the left. Trump couldn't have been clearer. He respects the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage, and he's not touching it. He had a prominent member of the gay community as keynote speaker at one of his events. He waved around the gay pride flag proudly. How could he possibly be any clearer on this issue? What else do you WANT from him? And this from a far right candidate is risking a LOT when there are some people in the party who must have been livid he's been so supportive. No one ever points out that up until a couple years ago, Hillary was ADAMANTLY against gay marriage. They had a golden opportunity to be more welcoming and inclusive during their eight years and they blew it. But that's fine, right?
If anyone is revving people up (with lies), it's your side. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Leslie said... 195 I have not been reading this blog lately but after reading the above page, I feel very depressed over the Gosselins. They are so F***ked up. It is so sad. ****** Great to see you! Yup, you've summed it up well. I agree that it's senseless to "prove" to the world that Jon texts Kate. What was the point? The whole interview was pointless and sad. No one seems to care that there's a much-loved reality tv boy-a boy that's been on tv screens for 10 years- MIA. There's a father who has been on NATIONAL TV saying for almost a year now, that he has no contact with his son and wants to see him. Worse, no one cares that Kate continues to film like there's no tomorrow. No. One. Cares.
@Layla (198) Actually both Jamezvader with a z and Jamesvader and with an s are both my accounts.The reason was i have a laptop and a mac and when i started going on this blog i accidentally made both accounts.So any other accounts aren't mine.
GollyGee (#10), it's a safe bet there will be tears (via poking and dabbing), which TFW must have been practicing since the People issue came out. Poor me (poke, dab), special needs child (poke, dab), doing it all alone (poke, dab). Blech.
Wonder when she'll head to NYC to get herself beautified. Too bad she can't be bothered to try to improve her insides.
Breezy said... 4 Ha Ha! I like how GMA refers to her as the former Kate Plus 8 star November 18, 2016 at 10:14 AM Anonymous said... 5 The GMA website refers to her as the "former" Kate+8 star.
bm ******* Ha!, first of all ;-) And...I wonder if the Today show can't help her anymore. Oh, lovely. Kate and Steve can have yet another romantic long weekend in NYC.
Sad but true said... in re: Jon giving up legal custody in exchange for not paying child support. "Whatever she was doing was surely nowhere near as lucrative as her TLC heights had been. It just seems a strange time for her to say (if this is what happened), okay you don't need to pay anymore."
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As Admin has explained so many times, one parent cannot absolve another of their obligation to pay child support, plus the court system is the only party able to make that decision. So, can we please put this rumor about a deal being made about Jon not having to pay support in exchange for giving up legal custody to rest?
Jon's interview was pointless. Word came out shortly after the People article that Jon said that Kate didn't tell him what facility Collin was admitted to. Jon is going to contact an attorney now... WTH. His interview, with softball questions, was pointless. When is he going to be asked why hasn't anything changed after the numerous times that he said that he was going to Court. Based on Jon's past interviews, it's been about 2 1/2 yrs since he has seen Collin. Hey Jon, you need to get off script - stop saying 1 1/2 yrs and I'm going to Court and I don't know why.
Also, the wording of his text was interesting ... "I've been meaning to ask you...." That sounds like he never asked Kate where Collin was. Jon, you sound like a broken record.
As Admin has explained so many times, one parent cannot absolve another of their obligation to pay child support, plus the court system is the only party able to make that decision. So, can we please put this rumor about a deal being made about Jon not having to pay support in exchange for giving up legal custody to rest?
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The easiest way to remember this is to remember that child support is for the benefit of the children, not the parents. Therefore, parents can't make sweetheart deals among each other, using child support as a tool or leverage, because they can't play games with something that is not for THEIR benefit. In other words, you can't give up something that wasn't meant for you in the first place. You have no right to give up something that's not even yours.
LOL, I guess TLC couldn't manage the usual Today Show pre-show publicity interview after that epic scene with the twins. GMA drew the short straw. And yes, NO DOUBT, she and Steve will be in NYC enjoying a cozy dinner.
I was watching Project Runway. They had a commercial for Outdaughtered that showed the worried parents and then one of the babies getting treatment with an oxygen mask. Gotta film those babies in the hospital. It's pathetic.
Look, I get that, I really do. Nonetheless, there was that statement from Kate's attorney. Would an attorney be allowed to make a representation like this if it weren't true? If it were not even legally possible?
"Cheryl Young has represented Kate in her ongoing legal battle with her ex-husband, and she told RadarOnline.com that Jon shouldn't be complaining about his money woes:
"I read Jon's statement on RadarOnline.com and was quite surprised to read that he claims to be struggling to keep his child support payments current. As of April 27, 2012, Kate voluntarily relieved Jon of all current and future child support obligations for their eight children."
That, plus the fact that Jon appears to have absolutely no rights with respect to his children, including the whole visitation thing, is what makes me wonder if he didn't cut some kind of deal with her, one that perhaps was not disclosed to the court but which he is interpreting one way and she another.
What the attorney stated suggests to me is that NO ONE is paying CS for those kids, that Kate pays all their expenses from their earnings (as she was permitted to do under the terms of their trusts) and her "waiving current and future support" was an acknowledgment of that.
I don't know if any of this makes sense from a legal point of view. I am just baffled why Jon continues to repeat that he has no "rights" with respect to the kids. How and when did that happen? There was a time, and not all that long ago, when they were all seeing him; I think things began to change when he was dating Liz, with the pitbulls. Or maybe it's when TLC came back into their house, which would have been in spring 2014. Either way, it wasn't always like this.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 12m12 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 So looks like you will be on @ABC's #GMA this coming Monday? Maybe we get new jnsight on the #KatePlus8 episodes? #ThumbsUp
No one needs "new insight [sic]" on the episodes, it's the same old same old same old. And nothing needing any insight will be asked of her. You know the drill, Milo.
"Kate Gosselin and her kids are headed back to TV. Ten years after the family starred in “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” Kate and her eight are back on TLC with “Kate Plus 8.” Kate chatted with “Extra’s” AJ Calloway at our H&M studios in Times Square about what fans can expect from the latest series, updating AJ on how her son Collin is doing.
Kate previously made it public that one of her sextuplets, Collin, 12, was living away from home as he dealt with behavioral issues. “He's chugging along,” she told AJ. "It’s a family experience that we are dealing the best we can with… Everyone’s got their stuff. Another bump in the road and we're all doing the best that we can with it. I am confident he is in the best hands and receiving the best of what’s being offered for his situation.”
The hardest part for Kate was accepting that her son needed special help she could not give. "It’s kind of humbling when as a mom you have to admit that, 'I am not enough for what you need.' That’s kind of what I struggle with, but we're moving on. In life, it’s more about how you deal with the situation than the situation you were dealt.”
Gosselin and ex-husband Jon haven’t had a good relationship in some time, and Kate said that hasn’t changed. “I don’t have a relationship with him — I’ve moved on.” When it comes to their children, she told AJ, "I support the kids and their relationship [with him] — some visit, some choose not to, some visit sometimes. I support them and what they want so they can be happy and whole.”
The estranged couple’s relationship dissolved while filming their reality show. When asked if she thought they would still be together had there not been a show, she replied, “All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, and I always say it [would have] ended the same way, except the world wouldn’t have known about it… I think that along the way, the signs were there and it’s unfortunate regardless.”
The 41-year-old, who previously appeared on “The Celebrity Apprentice,” weighed in on President-elect Trump, saying, “That’s kind of a weird thing to think about because I knew him outside of and prior to ‘Apprentice.’ I fully expect him to take his success in business and make our country successful. I hope that and hope that others can get behind him. I do know that at the heart of Donald Trump is a true and utter love of our country, and if he allows that to guide him, we will all be really happy.”
As for “Kate Plus 8," she commented, “This season kind of started filming early this year. You're gonna see a lot of stuff… You’re going to see birthdays, a sixteenth birthday party; finally, the girls let me have a birthday party for them, big one! Mind you, they planned the party. I need to make that clear, because they’ll crucify me if they see this and I don’t make that clear… It was their way, and so we'll see a 12th birthday party for the little kids… Trips, we visited New Orleans, we built an igloo this past winter — it was super fun.”
We can also look forward to some four-legged Gosselins! "We added two new family members that have fur — they are my other children.”
“Kate Plus 8” premieres Tuesday on TLC."
So she considers what's going on with Collin just "another bump in the road". Really?
Look, I get that, I really do. Nonetheless, there was that statement from Kate's attorney. Would an attorney be allowed to make a representation like this if it weren't true? If it were not even legally possible?
"Cheryl Young has represented Kate in her ongoing legal battle with her ex-husband, and she told RadarOnline.com that Jon shouldn't be complaining about his money woes:
"I read Jon's statement on RadarOnline.com and was quite surprised to read that he claims to be struggling to keep his child support payments current. As of April 27, 2012, Kate voluntarily relieved Jon of all current and future child support obligations for their eight children."
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That could just be attorney double speak. We've been known to do it.
All she's saying is that Kate had no objection to what happened in court. She never says Kate gave up anything or initiated anything, or there was some kind of exchange.
What could have happened is Jon filed to reduce his support, for whatever reason. Hardship, change in circumstances, more time with the children, etc. As long as the judge found it was in the children's best interest (likely, because they already are very well cared for off their OWN salaries), he can grant her. All her attorney is saying is they didn't fight it.
If she wants to spin that as Kate is the martyr who made this happen, whatever. For all we know Kate never even responded to notice of the support reducing unless she had an objection.
When she and Steve get to N.Y. for the GMA show, I wouldn't put it past her to try to squeeze in a stop at the Trump Tower. Even if she can't wangle a visit with the President-to-be, she might just show up so that she is photographed there, being such a close friend (in her mind).
Good grief, she is 12 years old. Seriously. She tries desperately to communicate like an adult, and use big words and serious phrases, but she has the intellect and emotional maturity of a 12-year-old. I'm not being flippant. There's something disturbing about it.
So she's "moved on" from Jon? When you need to co-parent 8 CHILDREN until they turn 18, and beyond, how in the world is moving on an option?
If she's in NYC today, I bet she will stay for the weekend. Why go back to PA and the kids when she can spend time away from them (and alone with Steve) shopping, eating fish in paper, and being pampered at Ted Gibson? She's been stuck in Ghettoville with her kids for a long time. I wouldn't put it past her to schedule interviews days apart so she could have an excuse to stay away.
As Collin chuggs along he is a bump in the road. She has been hitting that bump in the road since he was a toddler. But the fun continues because she has two new family members who are her other children - so all is well.
Judging by the other guests that are on GMA on Monday I'm guessing that TFW will probably only get a couple of minutes like she did the last time. Kyra Sedgwick (new movie & oh yeah, married to Kevin Bacon), Lin-Manuel Miranda (I can't wait to see Hamilton), Ayesha Curry (new cookbook) and TFW and ABC's tweet doesn't mention anything else about her.
@ABCNewsPR: Monday on @GMA:@kyrasedgwick from @EdgeOf17; @Lin_Manuel from @DisneyMoana; @ayeshacurry on her cookbook #TheSeasonedLife & @Kateplusmy8 ******** This non-fan has a point. When TFW gives an interview it's thumbs up but when Jon does it, shame (bang the gong).
@DonutsForCollin: @ABCNewsPR @GMA @kyrasedgwick @DisneyMoana @ayeshacurry @Kateplusmy8 when Jon speaks to media...& thumbs up when K8 speaks to media. https://twitter.com/DonutsForCollin/status/799763880423530496/photo/1
“All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, . . ."
The writing was actually in your diary, Kate, long before you thought of divorce. How did you put it? Do it my way or we will not have happy lives? What a disgusting cow.
Sounds like the season's a real mish-mash if they're including "igloo" scenes we know they shot last February. I guess that'll make it harder to figure out when precisely Collin was shown the door.
Wow, stop throwing such tough questions at me. Let me think...give me a while...I GOT IT! I wanted him not to put raging homophobes into positions of power, starting with not putting a Neanderthal like Mike Pence on the ticket.
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Have you ever heard of or read Obergefell v. Hodges? The Supreme Court decision on gay marriage. Written by Justice Kennedy. Read it. Kennedy was very clear. He couldn't care less what people want to think about homosexuals, and he has no problem if people don't support gay marriage on religious grounds or ANY grounds. What was said, is that government can't prevent same-sex marriages. He was also very clear that people have a right to their religious beliefs nonetheless, and no one can tell people they shouldn't believe what they like about gay marriage.
I don't much care how individuals feel about gay marriage. I don't care how Kim Davis feels. I only care if you're going to use your beliefs to stop others from doing something that is legal to do. No one is doing that.
The Loving v. Virginia oral arguments and opinion are also something you should read. They do a great job explaining why personal beliefs shouldn't dictate government's laws but that personal beliefs are still permitted. In other words, if you think people of different races shouldn't marry, then you don't have to choose that for yourself. You can still have your beliefs.
Unlike you, I don't require everyone to think exactly like me. The IRONY of the socialism/nazism accusations. The irony. Once we become a society where everyone is required to have all of the same beliefs, we lose our diversity and our greatness, and very bad things can happen. I think gay marriage is on exactly the right track, but what if we get off track and everyone is required to believe something that's really wrong? Do you see the danger? I think it would be nice if everyone were fully behind gay marriage, but at the same time, I think it's important to allow for lots of different thoughts and ideas as a "check" on any one idea getting off track.
Everyone in this country is required to follow the law, and gay marriage is the law. Unless and until this administration says they're going to change it (which, they said the opposite, they're leaving it alone), I don't care how religious the cabinet is. This country could use a little religion. Put your faith in God, not the government to solve your problems. But please stop telling other people what to believe and how to think. We can force people like Kim Davis to stamp and sign marriage certificates, and I'll force her to do so to the death--but I'll also defend to the death Kim Davis's right to hold whatever dumb beliefs she likes as long as she follows the law. And I in turn will defend my right to the death to make fun of her for the bigoted idiot she is. We NEED Kim Davises in this world to keep a certain balance.
Bottom line as long as people are capable of understanding the separation of church and state, then welcome to the cabinet.
Oh and I will say this, I quite dislike the bullying and shaming from the far left about what people are required to believe, which inevitably results in name calling and more shaming when you don't. I find it very ironic that these same people get upset when government tells them where they can pee or what to do with their body, but have no problem tell people how to think. They don't hear themselves or see it, I guess. At the end of the day I'm really a libertarian and would have voted for a libertarian if one were put forward who was any good, and I don't think the government should tell you where to pee, what to do with your body or who you can't marry, but I can honestly say I've never seen a libertarian bully or shame the other parties for their beliefs or insist and require they come over to a libertarian viewpoint. But I see it all.the.time. from liberals. They literally cannot understand how anyone, anyone at all, could possibly see the world differently. They have no understanding for what someone who grew up in a red state or red part of the country is about. They have no idea the real struggles of many red state folks they have so callously lumped and dismissed into their "white privilege" box. It really is absolutely disgusting the way liberals talk to the heart of America, the verbal abuse constantly slung at good people, the name calling, the categorizing, the accusations most of which are false--and I'm ashamed for you and deeply embarrassed by the past week and a half.
“All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, . . ."
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The total and utter denial of the role reality TV has played in shaping this family is fascinating. It's truly a total refusal to take any ownership of it.
@GollyGee Im convince something happen to Zorro.The last picture of him on the IG account was 12 weeks ago (which was around August 26)and some people have ask for his whereabouts and Kate has ignored it.Even with all these puppy pictures,i would of expected Kate to upload at least one picture of him on the IG account or her own.
@GollyGee Im convince something happen to Zorro.The last picture of him on the IG account was 12 weeks ago (which was around August 26)and some people have ask for his whereabouts and Kate has ignored it.Even with all these puppy pictures,i would of expected Kate to upload at least one picture of him on the IG account or her own.
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Zorro was her new toy. He served his purpose and she's tired of him. He most likely has been banished to his cage. New puppies have taken over for filming purposes.
Saying C is "chugging along" is a particularly odd description of the emotional well being of a young child removed from his home. It sounds more like she's talking about a work situation. Or an appliance.
Maybe she'll say Colin took Zorro with him for company. (You can pay me later, Kate, for the idea.)
We knew from tweets that she was filming during the blizzard last winter. They're actually going to air that old stuff. And what's that crap about the twins allowing her to have a party for them? All these years that the tups got a big party and the twins got nothing is because they didn't "allow" Kate to have one. Yup those selfless 8 year olds telling Kate we don't need one this year. The twins planned their own party in the hope that Kate wouldn't show up dressed like a drunk clown. Someone do me a favor pls and count how often Kate hugs the puppies on camera. It might be more in this "season" than she's hugged the kids in 10 years.
Sherri said: "So, can we please put this rumor about a deal being made about Jon not having to pay support in exchange for giving up legal custody to rest?"
I understand the courts would not allow it. But I personally think Jon and Kate came to an verbal agreement/understanding of letting her to film the kids and giving her legal custody of making all the important decisions and she would not expect child support.His child support (and he was behind at times) was chump change to Kate anyway. This agreement did not have to involve the courts at all. And I make these assumptions because why else would Jon possible give up legal custody of his own children? Something happened since the divorce was finalized.
And if Jon did give up legal custody he probably figured correctly that Kate was going to make all the big decisions anyway. She always did in the past and he knew she would in the future whether he agreed with it or not. It is within Kate's personality to control everything and everyone and it is within his personality to be laid back and go with the flow. And I really do think Jon had a very hard time making child support payments. Any man with eight kids would.
But I do believe Jon has always loved and still loves his children dearly. I believe he pays their way when they visit him. That in itself costs a hefty sum. I believe he wants to visit regularly with all his kids too. So I am not saying he is a bad father or person at all. I just think he knew he was in a very different situation that 99.9% of all other families. And that being that TLC had always paid the families bills and he knew that fighting Kate and TLC was probably a losing battle. Heck, he had already lost a battle with TLC. He knows better than anybody how Kate is crazy/mean and he knows he couldn't always take her to court over every decision they disagree about. He never had the money or the fortitude to do that and I don't blame him.
But he needs to stop going public with the family business. It makes him look bad and Kate is only going to use it against him. She will twist anything to alienate Jon against the kids more and more. Like her own kids say, "she is so competitive." Gee, and before our very eyes she is competing like hell to be a better parent than Jon. Of course, that in her sick mind that means bigger house, more money, more vacations, etc. Kate does not have any clue what it takes to be a great parent.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 47 Saying C is "chugging along" is a particularly odd description of the emotional well being of a young child removed from his home. It sounds more like she's talking about a work situation. Or an appliance.
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Yes, you are right. She is an ODD one that is for sure. She thinks she's cute talking like a just turned teen, but it looks really BAD and STUNTED on her part.
To say C is chugging along is just plain wrong. Sending him off his plain wrong. Not letting him see his brother and sisters is plain wrong and not letting him see his father plain wrong.
I am "stealing" this photo from RoxyHelen's post#60 but don't think she will mind.
https://s21.postimg.org/rj3zs8bw7/collin_2.jpg
It is of Colin sitting down on a couch with Kate and others. Colin has a shocked look on his poor face and is just staring in disbelief at his mother. Kate looks like she is having a MAJOR freak out. This photo just makes me so mad. Here is Colin who has problems regulating his emotions and here is his mother (being filmed no less) acing like a complete out of control banshee in front of her son. I swear this woman can't respect for her own son. Her behavior is so out of control it is no wonder she could not help Colin.
Yes, Colin's problem(s) are partially from the way his brain is wired but nobody can tell me that Kate's repeated freak outs all his life have not had profound influence on him. I feel so sorry for him. I wonder what this scene was about. Not that it really matters though.
Oh my, I looked at the Extra photos and you can so clearly see the outline of Kate's bra. This was no accident. She looks thinner than usual. And she got another dose of botox. And again, those nails are so out of date. They are so fake and gross too.
Several people have commented that TLC may be ready to dump her because they haven't advertised her show. I watched two hours of the "600 pound" show a few nights ago and everybody is right. There was advertising for the Roloffs and the Outdaughtered but zero for Kate. But why would TLC send her to NY if they are ready to ax her after this "season". Maybe TLC thinks because her show will air after the other two newer shows that there is no need to promote her show on their station. After people watch the first two shows people will either stay tuned in for Kate or turn the channel because their minds have already been made up. They know what Kate's show is all about after ten years of her being on TV. Something tells me TLC will never dump her. But I do think it speaks volumes that Kate Plus 8 is not the lead in show. Heck, it wasn't even the lead in show last time. It was the Little Couple.
Well said. She acts like a maniac and then wonders why her kids do the same.
That photo is during the Gosselin Memory Game, where Kate sets up a contest to see how well the kids can remember the TLC-edited version of their lives. I'm sure points are lost when you remember something that was supposed to have been suppressed. Sounds fun, right?
Leslie, If the courts won't allow it now do you think Jon gets away without paying child support and not be legally "behind" on child support. That makes no sense. Then Kate could go after him for not paying all these years. If it's illegal for her to waive his child support payments then they can't have a legal agreement that he won't pay and that she won't go after him.
Jon doesn't have to pay child support because the children support themselves. Kate does not pay child support herself and they live with her. She does not support the children financially while they are in her custody. If she doesn't then why should Jon?
The children's trusts pay for their present schooling and expenses. Kate doesn't.
I think the agreement Kate conceded to would be that since Kate isn't paying then Jon shouldn't either so he's not legally required to. She can't argue that one.
Why is that so hard for people to understand and accept?
Sad but true (#58), TFW's face always looks different when when she's away from her kids. Because she's happy. When that camera is on her, and her children are far away, she lights up like a Christmas tree.
I can't stomach to look at the picture, but I sure wouldn't be surprised if she's gotten a tune up. What piecin'-and-patchin' single mother of 8 kids, without a steady job, wouldn't treat herself to some cosmetic enhancements in between vacations? #MomLife
We know Kate took the kids out West last Thanksgiving (I think she said she even paid for it---heavens!). What do you think that chances are that Jon will see any of his kids this holiday season?
How would you like to see that face screeching at you and grabbing you by the hair when you're two years old? ****** That was a completely different face back then!
She looks vaguely like herself back when she was first growing her hair out. There was a promo photo of her with the kids where she's wearing a light-blue, cap-sleeved top and hair about down to her jawline (this is probably late 2010/early 2011). I guess that's the photo they pulled up to guide this latest "enhancement."
Nothing shows how relatable you are than having a quiz show about your family, played by your family, and shown on your TV show. I have a feeling these kids are going to pay for several psychiatrists' luxury cars a few years down the line.
I wonder if TFW has an underlying sense of desperation about this little press junket. Perhaps being off the air for almost a year has her scared that this may be her last chance to, as she once said, hit it out of the park. She's no longer the fresh-faced, frazzled mom to a houseful of little kids. She's a few months away from being 42, and having 8 teenagers. And the Duggars have taken a significant chunk of TLC's attention and resources that might have gone her way. Jinger could be pregnant by Christmas, and Jessa's 2nd baby is due in February, so there's no end in sight for this family. So I suspect these might be worrisome times for TFW. Then again, I'm not sure if she's got the awareness I'm giving her credit for.
“All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, . . ."
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The total and utter denial of the role reality TV has played in shaping this family is fascinating. It's truly a total refusal to take any ownership of it.
****** C'mon. Reality tv led to money and privilege and fame. That led to a ton of plastic surgeries and Steve. Everything changed and Jon became a vestigial appendage that she thought she didn't need anymore.
The children's trusts pay for their present schooling and expenses. Kate doesn't. _____
Taking this to its logical conclusion, do you think Kate pays herself a salary from their funds for being their caretaker? As well as Steve, for being their protector? I have no doubt there's a lot of slush in the accounting.
CC, I think you MAY (not sure) have some points mixed-up. I am no expert so perhaps Admin., can chime in.
1) You are stating the courts would not allow Jon to pay no support. I think the court would not allow the legal agreement of "you don't pay support but you let me film the kids". As Admin. said above, "Parents can't make sweetheart deals among each other, using child support as a tool or leverage, because they can't play games with something that is not for THEIR benefit." But I think Kate may have told the court Jon's support is not needed and proved to the court that fact. Admin.could Kate have done this legally? No deals just her telling oir filing with the court that she does not need his support and provide financial statements to back it up.Then the court erases his support payments.
2) Then you stated, Jon doesn't have to pay child support because the children support themselves." You just contradicted yourself.
3) Why would Kate ever have to pay child support to the court for her 8 kids that live with her? She never did pay support and never will. The court never required it either.
4) You said, "The children's trusts pay for their present schooling and expenses. Kate doesn't." We don't know that. I do know and it was made public that there is a trust but we don't know if daily living expenses comes out of that. That trust may be just for college and/or school tuition prior to college.
But I agree that Kate does not support the kids and they support themselves. Hence, that is what I meant in my post that TLC has always paid the family bills past and future. What is unfair is Jon literally works a "real" job and has for many years, and Kate just sits on her butt not working a job but stating SHE is the one ONLY supporting HER kids. CC we agree filming is what supports these kids. There are 8 kids that are filmed in the great majority of the 150 plus episodes, therefore; absolutely they support themselves. I have always thought that. Also Kate has further profited off of the kids with three of her books that were 100% about the kids. The cookbook was somewhat of an exception but that earned squat!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 40 ******* Amen. I woke up to see the cast of Hamilton lecturing the VP-elect from the stage, and this is EXACTLY why we need the electoral college. I agree with you about bathrooms and gay marriage. All for it. But ffs, the intolerance of the left for the right is sickening. It reminds me of a Sex And The City episode, where Carrie sets Miranda up on a blind date. The blind date is a friend of the guy Carrie's dating, and he's a total Manhattan-ite, who honestly believes the the world begins and ends on that tiny island. He never, ever left and never, ever wants to leave. Everything you could ever, ever want is in Manhattan, and I find this typifies the elites on the coasts who think their America doesn't exist in the middle of the country. And the Republicans are xenophobes.
Sorry for the rant, but I'm getting so sick of this refusal to accept reality and the righteous indignation of the people who lost. I was one of them! Where I live, we've had high school students walking out of class ALL WEEK LONG, in protest. I'm all for protest, but not at the expense of of school. The Superintendent of Schools is say, "Well, what do you want me to do?" I'd be LIVID if I sent my kids to school, where I expect grown ups are taking their charges seriously, only to find out that they are doing NOTHING to ensure they stay on campus, and are safe. LIVID.
Sorry another thought. It burns me badly when we hear the kids thank "mommy" for taking them on vacations. TLC takes them on vacations. Kate just goes along making them miserable. Kate should be thanking the kids because without them she wouldn't be vacationing in those great places several times a year without them. She would be working her butt off on a real job.
Tucker, I was thinking about whether there was some kind of good movie or show that would help the blue cities out there better understand what the heart of America is really about, and it came to me, The Farmer's Wife. You can find it on youtube for free.
Juanita wasn't walking around ranting about gay marriage or abortion or who can go in what bathroom. She was simply worried about putting food on the table for her girls and giving them a nice birthday party when she had no money for anything special. This was filmed over several years in the 90's, and it really helps to explain why the Clinton years in the 90's were not all rosy for this part of the country. In fact, it was some of their worst years. After watching it, you can understand why folks like Juanita and Darren would gravitate toward candidates that reassure them they will support the farmers, lower their taxes, and help to make their struggles better. These people don't appreciate being constantly lectured about racism or homophobia when they wouldn't have the time to be racist or homophobic even if they wanted to.
I have the advantage of living many years in both a very red, dairy farmer-heavy part of the country, and one of the bluest cities in the country. But many people never experience both on any kind of meaningful level (a layover in Kansas doesn't count), and what seems to have developed is a total lack of understanding, and what's worse, mischaracterization, for how the other half lives. Racism, abortion, guns, were rarely the topics of conversation in my red community. But taxes, veterans, jobs sure were. One candidate spoke better to the taxes-veterans-jobs folks out there, and he won for it. A lot is being leaked about the Clinton campaign, and it's been revealed that apparently Bill Clinton was complaining for months that the campaign was not reaching the blue collar taxes-veterans-jobs people. When he tried to tell Hillary where she was missing the mark, she ignored him and played on her phone. He was blown off, told that's off track, told that doesn't matter. Apparently, he's been going around saying told ya so.
As for those students, get your butts back in class and start learning something. At the very least spend some time with The Farmer's Wife before writing off the rest of America as pre-Nazi racists.
Jane thanks for the info about the three huge billboards about Outdaughtered in New York City. TLC is really gunning hard for this family. I watched a few episodes and it was a sweet show but nothing special.
What made Jon & Kate Plus 8 such a draw was unfortunately the ugliness between the parents and Kate's craziness. And of course the show was a hit because the eight were absolutely adorable--both in looks and their personalities. And their mixed heritage made them stand out too.
The Busbys are a sweet couple but I don't see anything in the show that will make it a standout like the Gosselins did in the beginning. And their 5 daughters are still so young that they really don't have much personality at their age.
Over And Out said... 37 She is not going away. Not ever. Neither is Milo. It's like we're in some bizarre universe or Twilight Zone where every day is Groundhog Day. November 18, 2016 at 5:33 PM ***** Except the groundhog's cheeks keep getting puffier, and the face keeps getting smother and smoother.
The kids are right smack dab in the middle of that time in their lives where they are old enough to start grasping some major realizations. Leslie, one of those will be that THEY funded all this, not Kate, and yet all along Kate has taken all the credit. That's not going to go over well with at least some of them.
I really recommend Melissa Francis's book about being a child star. She started to realize how exploited she was only when she got to the teen years. She just wasn't old enough to grasp it all when she was younger. The kids can and will get there, very, very soon. The only question remains which ones will be accepting of what happened to them, and which ones, like Missy, will not.
1) If Kate proved to the court that Jon's support isn't needed then how does that give Kate leverage? She can't get Jon to sign something legally giving her custody in exchange for no child support. Jon would not have to stick to such a deal. That makes no sense.
2) How did I contradict myself? If the kids' trusts fully support them while under Kate's care, why would Jon have to pay them child support if he can show that Kate isn't financially supporting them while they are in her custody?
3) I never said Kate would have to pay "child support" if they live with her. I said she's not supporting them financially while they live with her. Their trusts support them.
4) Jon did an interview and it explained that the child support issue and how the children's trusts pay for their current schooling, college, AND all their expenses. I posted the link a while ago:
We ask Jon about some of the rumors about him through the years — like that he never paid Kate child support. He says it’s untrue.
“My first child support payments were $22,000 a month. I paid out $175,000 [in one year],” he says. “Go ask anyone how much they’ve paid out in child support ever. I guarantee it’s not $175,000 in one year.”
When he got a normal, non-TV job, his child payments “went to $2,000 and then it went to $1,500. Then Kate … denounced support because I got shared custody, and there’s no more support because it’s just pointless. I gave her $3 million. I walked away. I moved. [I said], ‘Take all of it.’ It was a moral sacrifice for my children.”
Regardless of who got what in the split, Jon says the kids are well taken care of thanks to their trust created with reality show earnings and endorsements. It pays for their private school educations now and all their expenses, and it will eventually cover their college tuitions as well. And that’s not that far away for Mady and Cara.
Kate previously made it public that one of her sextuplets, Collin, 12, was living away from home as he dealt with behavioral issues. “He's chugging along,” she told AJ. "It’s a family experience that we are dealing the best we can with… Everyone’s got their stuff. Another bump in the road and we're all doing the best that we can with it. I am confident he is in the best hands and receiving the best of what’s being offered for his situation.” ******* Noise-shaped air coming out of her face hole, as usual. She is completely void of emotion, with more warmth talking about her dogs than her son. I'm starting to feel really worried about Colin and the fact that his mother is hiding him somewhere. There is absolutely zero indication that he is at a proper treatment facility. I can not believe how long he's been gone, and think it highly possible that he will never come back to live at the compound. Not as long as she's filming.
I agree with a lot of what you say, I just don't agree that Jon gave Kate the right to exploit his children in exchange for money (or not having to pay her money.)
Kate admitted she stole money with "creative accounting" while going through the divorce. She admitted this at the time she went on The Today show and cried how she had a stack of bills she could not pay because Jon took money out of their bank account. Read below from an article I googled. This will jog some memories.
"For the first time, Kate also confirmed that earlier this year, she had taken $100,000 out of the account to prevent her husband from taking it.
“I removed it to keep it safe,” she told Vieira. “I had taken $100,000 and put it aside safely so I could buy my kids food if needed.”
"But, she added, she put the money back because the couple’s separation agreement forbids either of them from taking out money without the authorization of the other.
Bless Kate's heart; I truly feel sorry for her. She stole $100,000 just in case she needed to buy her kids some food if needed. This woman is freaking INSANE. By the way, Jon said that had eleven bank accounts during this time.
Admin (#79), and I also wonder if the kids will someday resent the things their mother spent the money they earned on. Not the usual kinds of extracurricular sports/classes kids do these days -- soccer, basketball, baseball, karate, robotics, coding, drawing, gymnastics, etc. -- but family vacations and Mom's cosmetic procedures. Maybe M&C are already at that level of awareness, which is why they've got so much power in the household.
I think if you accept the fact that a judge would have had to agree no support is in the kids' best interest, then whatever Jon and Kate said among each other is kind of irrelevant, isn't it? They can cook up sweetheart deals all they want I suppose, but the bottom line is a judge has to decide what's best for the kids, not what's best for them. On another note, does anyone actually think they can talk long enough to negotiate a "deal"? Jon says they don't even talk at all!
As for the alarmist Supreme Court justices, there probably are going to be some conservative, anti-abortion judges put on the panel. Let's remember Roe v. Wade only passed 5-4. But I would reassure you that Trump is likely only going to be able to fill one or two slots in his tenure--most of the bench is "young" and isn't going anywhere. And any Republican president is going to seek to have conservatives on the bench for many other reasons besides abortion, so this is nothing new. Second, the Supreme Court doesn't just go through old opinions and decide, ok we're undoing that. That's not how it works. They need a case to be taken up to them. So someone would have to be denied an abortion by someone (where does that happen anymore?) and would have to take it up, and then the Supreme Court would have to accept the case and say that denial was okay. That process takes YEARS. I don't see that scenario even out there to be taken up. The case doesn't exist. Roe v. Wade happened because women were going to attorneys asking them to help them find a place to have an abortion and attorneys were telling them to give up the kid for adoption instead. In this day in age you don't need to even go to an attorney, you just look up your local Planned Parenthood which has locations in every state in the country and make an appointment. So how would we find this case to take up?? Gosh it's annoying the way such alarmist dire warnings are thrown out without explaining anything about how exactly such a case would even happen. Stop it.
Finally, the Supreme Court has been staffed by Republicans for years and years, but has never in its history undone something major that was moving society forward in a, subjectively I guess, "progressive" direction. When looking to predict the future one must look at the past, and the past suggests such a thing won't happen.
Roe v. Wade is not going anywhere, which is why that wasn't even a factor for me.
Interesting side note, the attorney who argued Roe v. Wade was 27 year old Sarah Weddington, the youngest man or woman to ever successfully argue a Supreme Court case. It's cool to listen to the recording of her arguments, she's so nervous! Kind of gives a young attorney a shot in the arm to not worry so much if you're nervous, you can still win.
I don't know how Kate could pay herself as their caretaker. I don't see how that would fly.
I do think Kate pays herself for being their "manager." Just look at all the hard work it takes for her to exploit her kids. SHE has to come up with the brilliant ideas on how to entertain the masses with her children.
She has to come up with the "fun" activities they do for the show. It's not easy coming up with different ways to create meltdowns and fights among the siblings.
Noise-shaped air coming out of her face hole, as usual. She is completely void of emotion, with more warmth talking about her dogs than her son.
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Seeing the whole quote in context is alarming. It almost sounds like she's talking about the family business venture. Their frozen yogurt business that's been hitting some rough times. It's chugging along, we're all hanging in there, hopefully we'll be in the green at some point probably not this year though. Thankfully we have the best and brightest business minds helping us turn it around.
Did anyone see the video of the teacher who took away the microphone from a 6 YEAR OLD BOY who was the TURKEY in a class play?
The little boy was last in line waiting to say his line, Gobble, Gooble, when this thing called a teacher stood up as soon as the next to last boy was saying Thank you, then she turned her body to the side and looked straight ahead and then with her hand JERKED very hard while grabbing the mic, not even looking at the child who was MILDLY AUTISTIC who was trying to say his line!
When the beast completely ignored him and turned you can catch her grinning, like, Hey, I got away with it! You can hear the sadness of the mom of the little boy say, Why did she do that for?
The little boy was trying to say Gooble, but broke down and cried. Then you can tell the teacher realized people were getting angry and she was hurriedly getting the children who were in line in front of the stage out of there.
You can clearly see the side of her face of, OH, **** moment.
What was sickening was the old man principal interview saying that she didn't see him! Old man, she did it on purpose. You ought to see the comments on youtube.
One of the funniest is someone said, when she is bent over she looks like a busted can of Pillsbury canned biscuits! GOOD ONE!
If she couldn't see that kid, even with her peripheral vision, she is blind as a freaking bat. When she took the mic, he was about a foot away from her.
I have always had the bad feeling that poor Colin got sick of Kate beating him, and finally lost it one day, and smacked her back. If that is the case, she will never have him back in her home again I am thinking. That poor poor boy.
I wonder if K8 will undertake the "traditional" (LOL) tweet party this time around. Are there many people left out there who care if they're followed by Katie Irene? She's already got all her regulars on the list.
The Busbys did some sort of "live on Facebook" gig, but I doubt TLC would want Kate doing that.
I don't know how Kate could pay herself as their caretaker. I don't see how that would fly.
I do think Kate pays herself for being their "manager." _____
You're right, I'm sure that's how she's listed in her payroll statements. And she told us five years ago that Steve was her "road manager," so there'll be that line item as well. Quite a cozy little set-up.
I doubt she does much thinking about their activities (after all, Figure 8 pays writers to do that), although some are so stupid you just know they originated in Goldilocks's weave.
CC (#92), yes, exploiting her kids has been TFW's full-time job for a decade. And that job title has come with plenty of benefits.
As far as TFW coming up with "fun" ideas (snort!), you better believe it wasn't her idea to build an igloo. Spending time outdoors? In the cold? With her kids -- including the dirty, icky BOYS?
I wonder if the other kids worry about being sent away if they don't toe the line. As a parent I don't understand Jon just standing idly by and doing nothing. He can take this to court but doesn't. There must be a lot to this story that will eventually come out. In 2 or 3 years when the oldest 2 go off to college there will be big changes in that house.
CC, I give up trying to figure out what deal or no deal Kate and Jon may have done. Nobody knows for sure. I was confused my some of your points but like I said the confusion may be on my side. Or more than likely we are all confused because the situation is just plain confusing and nobody really knows what happened with the child support. We are all just speculating in the end when it comes to that subject.
But I think we all agree on this website TLC has always supported these kids. PERIOD!
Thanks for posting that Yahoo article. I never saw it and really enjoyed reading it. It seems Jon is doing great and has found a career that pays him well and that he really enjoys. And more importantly, it lends itself to him seeing his kids. I am glad Jon finally caught a break. I disagree with Jon in some areas but overall I admire him because of the utter hell Kate has put him through. And she made it so public to boot. His sweet, laid back personality is what the kids need in their life... so opposite of their controlling Mother's.
Interesting...just looked at the lineup on my cable station for a TLC between now and Tuesday and there is not one showing of any of TFW's shows til the 10 year reunion one at 10 pm on Tuesday night....hmmmm. Me thinks this is Hail Mary and if her ratings are low, she's toast.
I'm not sure that TLC arranged this press junket for Kate. She might have done it herself. As we have all noticed, TLC is not really promoting K+8. The Today Show is firmly in TLC's pocket, yet she's not going to be on. Many of these shows, even though they don't pay for interviews, will pay to transportation to/from NYC and a night in a hotel. I'm sure she's taking full advantage is the situation--a whole weekend away from the kids, with Deanna and Steve.
She has got to be worried about the show. I have never seen such poor promotion for a show--ever. The few glimpses you do see are awful. Kate screaming at the kids during a game, screaming at the kids in a canoe, screaming at the kids about the puppies, screaming at the kids about waffles, calling the kids "suckers" during some archery thing, Mady saying Kate is insane, the little girls saying nobody wants to play with Mommy. The new, improved Kate is gone (if she ever existed), and TLC is showing her at her ugly worst.
There is a definite change--I think she made someone at TLC mad. She's no longer even a side piece. It seems a lot like the RV episodes--like TLC is saying, "See what we have to deal with? She's horrible!" Kate is being unmasked yet again.
I'm confused about the "custody" issue. How Kate does whatever she wants with the kids whenever she wants.
How Jon isn't getting all of the children on his custody days and how Kate can just decide not to send them when he has them for the holidays, etc.
I realize it costs Jon money whenever he does to court. But how does he not have an option to have his custody time enforced without having to pay money makes no sense to me.
I do believe Jon WANTS to see all of his children. I'm just confused on how he allows Mady and Cara to just decide they don't want to visit him on such a regular basis. Once in a while I get because they might have stuff they want to do with friends and he gives in to that. But a regular basis? I don't understand it.
As for Kate pushing her limits I can see that. Kate thinks she is beyond the law until someone puts her in her place. But when?
My hope is the children find out the truth one day. They are entitled to that. I also hope they understand it. They only see the one side and it may take them years to come to the realization that their dad wasn't the bad guy in this.
Obama is such a good father. He said this to his daughters when they were upset about the election:
"You don’t get into a fetal position about it. You don’t start worrying about apocalypse. You say, O.K., where are the places where I can push to keep it moving forward.”
But I think we all agree on this website TLC has always supported these kids. PERIOD! ----------
I understand what you're saying but I don't agree with this. The kids have supported themselves. TLC hasn't supported them. The children have WORKED since infancy.
When you work for an employer they don't support you financially. You are supporting yourself. Know what I mean?
I remember that. I wonder if that is the same $100K Jon found hidden in the house. She had taken it and hidden it, and when Jon found it, someone involved in divorce arbitration ordered her to give Jon half the money since half of it was his. She said she gave him half and didn't know what he did with it, but she used her half to pay bills (because she's a poor, struggling mom-of-8 with a purse full of bills). In that case, she did not willingly put anything back or even willingly split it with Jon.
It's like when she went on TV to say that Jon "took $230,000 of the $231,000" of the money they had in the bank (or, as she said, "That we had in that account"). Very specific amount, right? But the truth was, she took some of that money herself. But nobody called her out on the lie. She was untouchable. Disgusting.
The few glimpses you do see are awful. Kate screaming at the kids during a game, screaming at the kids in a canoe, screaming at the kids about the puppies, screaming at the kids about waffles, calling the kids "suckers" during some archery thing, Mady saying Kate is insane, the little girls saying nobody wants to play with Mommy. ****** She looks unhinged in the preview.
How do you speed when it's against the law? People speed because they can, because no one stops them unless a cop happens to be around and chances are a cop is not around.
If no one tells Kate she can't do what she's doing, she'll keep doing it. That really goes back to Jon.
How Jon isn't getting all of the children on his custody days and how Kate can just decide not to send them when he has them for the holidays, etc. ****** According to Kate, she doesn't care if the kids choose not to see Jon. That's really good for them, apparently. I think the truth is that Kate relishes the breakdown of Jon's relationship with his children. The fact that she's never, not once, said it makes her sad, it very telling.
foxy said... 101 I wonder if the other kids worry about being sent away if they don't toe the line. _____
This is an interesting question. On the one hand, having seen how she was with Collin, you might expect fear. The boys probably feel that way to some extent. I don't think the twins are particularly afraid of her anymore, at least not on their own account; they probably worry more about what she might do to one of the younger kids.
On the other hand, look at how crazy she went to get Hannah back. And Hannah knows why---it wasn't about her, per se, it was about The Show. I think this probably made Hannah realize that she does have some power in this situation. After all, if the general public hears even one more thing about a kid wanting to leave her house (one about whom we haven't been properly prepped with respect to his/her "issues" by People magazine), she's not only toast, she'll have people baying for blood.
I think she's walking a tightrope these days with respect to the kids. Another reason why Steve is no doubt still hanging around---to ensure that she can scream at him when she's in one of her moods and not take a swing at one of the children. I guess he's earning that paycheck.
The Electoral College is antiquated and gives disproportionate weight to the voters in specific regions of the country.
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Noooo, that's what the popular vote would do. The popular vote would make the election solely about the cities. The cities would win, every time. The question for you is why do you think rural America should be completely shut out from our elections?
It's nonsense that a Hispanic voter in Los Angeles was not counted. In fact, that person's vote counted FIFTY-FIVE electoral college votes. That's astounding! What more do you want?? How is that "unfair"? And why are you assuming Hispanics don't want Trump? In fact an overwhelming number of Hispanics voted for Trump, it was by no means a blowout for that ethnic group.
The electoral college requires coalitions from a board spectrum of America--cities, rural, north, south, east, west, central, all different ethnicities. The system is brilliant, fair, and just. Stop whining and figure out how to win it four years from now. Trump said it best, I would have campaigned very, very differently if you simply wanted me to win the most votes.
kateplusmy8 I'm a little Shoka, short and cute🎶.. Just back from the groomer! I missed my family and my deck!:) #Mak ****** Can you imagine how Colin feels? She is sick. I'm sure the dog was just chugging along just fine, yet she's projecting that he misses his family after being away for a couple hours, not several months.
Amen. I woke up to see the cast of Hamilton lecturing the VP-elect from the stage, and this is EXACTLY why we need the electoral college.
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Unbelievably uncouth. His NIECE AND NEPHEW were with him. Good Lord. Free speech is free speech but it seems much more appropriate for Miranda to post such a sentiment on his web site or FB page, rather than ambush a man on his day off with his family. The audience's reaction was even worse. Completely lost all respect and he does owe him an apology.
I'm a little Shoka, short and stout, Spider bought me and kicked Collin out, The rain will come down and wash the spider out, And the itsy-bitty spider won't have no more clout!
I'm watching the 20/20 Gretchen Carlson interview from last night. There was a commercial for GMA and TFW's interview. The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world? Maybe she will end up ending her own 'career'.
"Winsomeone said... 97 I have always had the bad feeling that poor Colin got sick of Kate beating him, and finally lost it one day, and smacked her back. If that is the case, she will never have him back in her home again I am thinking. That poor poor boy."
Hello, Winsomeone...I have had the very same feeling about Colin, and this feeling comes from personal 70+ years old experience.
There comes a time in a child's life when he/she simply can not bear another beating/screaming/ humiliating moment of a mother's free-for-all capability of "mothering". There are children who crack. Totally crack. It's not a reaction of winning or anything which has to do with child- batters-crazy-mother. It's the moment that a child can and does retaliate. The reaction seems to come from out of nowhere. I know.
A mother like Kate is a living nightmare and there is no getting away from that, because if Colin is "locked away" in either a foster home or a facility, will anyone listen to him screaming for release from his life? Will anyone save him from himself?
I'm one of this blog's avid readers who feels so sad for Colin. A wussy daddy doesn't make the situation anymore bearable.
Hang on, Little Fella......Somehow you'll be free to think straight and to live the very best you were created to be.
westcoastie (120) Wow, so maybe GMA isn't going with the normal "softball" interview. Wouldn't that be a refreshing change? Let's hope the interviewer doesn't just accept one of Kate's non-answers. Make her sweat! The only time anyone has ever come anywhere close to pinning her down was when Bethenny Frankel asked where all the money from the show went, but she let Kate get away with some drivel about how she uses coupons and they don't wear top brands because those things aren't important. Why not give a real answer? Why didn't Bethenny pin her down and demand a real answer? What a bunch of wimps.
That question ("…and Jon's in that world?") makes me even more convinced that TLC didn't set this press tour up for her. They would have screened all questions beforehand. I think she was on her own this time.
Ok am I the only one scared for Collin right now? Something feels insanely wrong with the whole situation. It gives me chills. I get this idea that the truth is very sinister. I am so scared that C fell between the cracks and there's no one there watching out for his best interest. My thoughts and well wishes go out to him today. I hope he is safe. Someone needs to do something about this.
The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world? ***** I wonder how Kate can spin the fact that the boy's own father doesn't know where he is in any way palatable, and not batshit crazy. Unless Jon is some sort of threat to Colin, she is a crazy, revenge-driven control freak. The fact that she takes pride in hiding him is frightening.
The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesn't
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I'm speechless. Her reaction to what's going on with him is just downright bizarre. Why is this something to trot around like this, and what's more, to use it to further your own ego. "I know something you don't know" type thing, like you're 12. So WEIRD.
“He’s chugging along,” she told Extra of his away-from-home treatment. “It’s a family experience that we are dealing the best we can with… Everyone’s got their stuff.”
“Another bump in the road and we’re all doing the best that we can with it,” she added. “I am confident he is in the best hands and receiving the best of what’s being offered for his situation.”
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“It’s kind of humbling when as a mom you have to admit that, ‘I am not enough for what you need,'” she explained. “That’s kind of what I struggle with, but we’re moving on. In life, it’s more about how you deal with the situation than the situation you were dealt.” ***** Yeah, Colin's chugging along. We're over it. Now, can we talk more about ME and how this affects ME?
GollyGee, there's another story to that video, apparently the parents of the 6 year old boy didn't sign the permission slip and didn't bring him for rehersals but he was allowed to be in the play last minute, so as to not leave him out. There was no turkey part, apparently. The kid is wearing a Native American costume collar pulled over his head. I think the teacher should have let him be and maybe given him the mic back, if indeed she took it by mistake but that said, the witchhunt is getting out of control. The poor woman is probably hiding. She did not hit this kid, she did not yell, she did not shove,she did not even snatched the mic from his hand. She took the mic at the end of the performance. She is being crucified over this and the parents are not even telling the whole story. If you read the description of the YT video the boy's mother made she says "So what if he wanted to say gobble gobble" basically admitting he did not have a line. The media has distorted the story, in my opinion.
I am so scared that C fell between the cracks and there's no one there watching out for his best interest. My thoughts and well wishes go out to him today. I hope he is safe.
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Someone is looking out for him because they started a CPS investigation into TFW's treatment of him. The institution obviously has at least one mandated reporter on staff to document his statements and make the call, but whether anything came of it is something completely different.
Is that a new ring TFW is wearing on her right hand in the pics of her visit to GMA? She's still wearing the multi-band, multi-stone ring on her left hand.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago Nice 2get update on Collin. Small persistent steps of progress is good news! Prayers 4U all! http://extratv.com/2016/11/18/kate-gosselin-gives-update-on-son-after-sending-him-away-months-ago/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter … … @kateplusmy8
"Small persistent steps"? Where'd you hear that? Cuz it wasn't in that interview. Doofus rides again. If Kate isn't getting it quite right, she'll just put the words right into her mouth.
Yeah, Colin's chugging along. We're over it. Now, can we talk more about ME and how this affects ME?
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That was pretty glaring to me also how quickly she turned the interview around from Collin to how she was the one affected. She's a disturbed person and is the one who should be in an institution getting help and learning how to cope.
miloandjack2016 If you had not said that WAS #Mak...I would easily identified this pic as #Shoka! Like father...like son for sure. Are you seeing the same temperament in #Mak like his daddy...#CalmEasygoing?? @kateplusmy8
kateplusmy8 Yep! Such a love! Easy peasy personality. Sweet and kind as pie! And so much like Shoka, he even shares his dislike of riding in the car 😡 @miloandjack2016
mydmaxx2581@kateplusmy8 @miloandjack2016 I thought the same thing....it was Shoka....like father like son. Such beautiful dogs Kate. 😄
miloandjack2016 Well you got another gem of a dog then!! So Im assuming #MissNanuq is like my girl...the lil rabble rouser? #MissK. 😋 #GirlsRule. LOL. @kateplusmy8
westcoastie said... 120 I'm watching the 20/20 Gretchen Carlson interview from last night. There was a commercial for GMA and TFW's interview. The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world? _____
And WTF does that mean? She's known "all along"? Didn't she participate in sending him where he went? Didn't some professionals have some involvement in this? Do THEY not even know where he is? Is she saying she took the decision all on her own? Yeah, I hope she gets nailed by that comment. She's really letting her inner psycho out now.
Interesting that they're apparently not going to have her sitting on the set on Monday like they usually do. I guess she might in fact be home since they decided to tape her. Of course taping means they're able to edit. I wonder if she/TLC have approval before it airs.
This is why people so dislike/distrust the media. It's all just one big mutual promotion now, no actual truth in reporting.
"Small persistent steps"? Where'd you hear that? Cuz it wasn't in that interview. Doofus rides again. If Kate isn't getting it quite right, she'll just put the words right into her mouth. ----------
That's how Milo translates "chugging along" = "small persistent steps."
Neither of those statements makes any sense whatsoever.
"Small persistent steps"? Where'd you hear that? Cuz it wasn't in that interview. Doofus rides again. If Kate isn't getting it quite right, she'll just put the words right into her mouth.
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Milo really missed her calling. She should find a job in the media because she's doing exactly what they do. She takes a sound bite and twists it into whatever she wants the narrative to be. Some believe her, just like they believe the media and some know what's really going on and don't believe what they're trying to sell.
SMH, I wonder if the crumbs TFW throws her are enough to satisfy her or if she's doing it in hope of finally getting the attention she wants. OR, is the attention she gets from the interaction w/fans and haterz on TFW's twitter and IG enough to satisfy her? lol Either way, what a sad, pitiful pastime she has defending a child abusing reality tv has-been.
Someone just posted the clip of the GMA interview on Twitter. Hey Kate! Where's the tan? Where's the lipstick? The shiny, sexy clothes? Someone's clearly trying to make her look like she's just sick about the whole situation. She's not a good enough actress to pull that off, so they've had to dress her down and wash her out, complete with flat, greasy-looking hair. Despicable manipulation.
westcoastie said... 120 I'm watching the 20/20 Gretchen Carlson interview from last night. There was a commercial for GMA and TFW's interview. The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world? =======
GMA tweeted a preview. I guess it's the same one that you saw.
One thing I've noticed that when Kate posted about the show returning(both of twitter and Instagram) she didn't mention TLC at all. Kate always included @TLC in her tweets about the show, and now she's not even mentioning them at all.
I find that odd. Even Milo, in the few reminders she's posted on twitter, only uses #TLC not @TLC.
I don't expect the ratings to be good, especially because of the timing of the shows' airing. Last year, the three shows that aired in December before Christmas, were all below 1 million viewers. This year, the shows start 2 weeks earlier during Thanksgiving week, so 5 of the 8 shows will air in the weeks before Christmas.
Maybe TLC thinks that airing them when the prime time shows are on hiatus for the holidays will bring in more viewers, but that didn't work out for them last year.
Amy Robach gets the pleasure of interviewing the witch. AR has been through breast cancer and survived, and I hope she can see through Kate's nonsense. I wonder if Kate has a tissue for the poke and dab.
"That photo is during the Gosselin Memory Game, where Kate sets up a contest to see how well the kids can remember the TLC-edited version of their lives. I'm sure points are lost when you remember something that was supposed to have been suppressed."
Lose ten points if they mention Beth and the grandparents. Lose twenty points if they mention Aunt Jodie. Lose infinite points if they mention Jon in a nice way. Gain a billion points if they make Mommy look good.
Kate is a twit said... 139 westcoastie said... 120 I'm watching the 20/20 Gretchen Carlson interview from last night. There was a commercial for GMA and TFW's interview. The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world? =======
GMA tweeted a preview. I guess it's the same one that you saw.
So it's a taped interview which means she's probably not in the city. She's such an unhappy person, despite her happy, happy, rainbows and puppies IG posts.
I noticed her face was red in part of that clip. Pretty sure she was NOT happy with the line of questioning and trying to hold in some rage. She had the same look when Bethenny Frankel asked her where all her money was.
So it's a taped interview which means she's probably not in the city. She's such an unhappy person, despite her happy, happy, rainbows and puppies IG posts. ===========
She was in the city yesterday, because she did the Extra interview there. She probably taped the GMA interview sometime before or after.
She could still be in the city. Just because she posted a picture of Mak on IG today, doesn't mean that the picture was taken today.
Either way, what a sad, pitiful pastime she has defending a child abusing reality tv has-been.
_______________ The strange thing is that she does't want to meet her. She tweeted that she's happy with the status quo, but you just know that she'd like to be in her bed, giving her a foot message, or whatever other body part needs rubbing.
You're right, neither Kate nor Milo is tagging TLC. Normally Kate wants them to see what a good employee she is, plugging the show, and Milo always follows Kate's lead. What changed? There is something going on behind the scenes, for sure. TLC is not promoting K+8 (at least, not much), Kate is not tagging them. If she wants to continue to film for them, you'd think she'd be trying to please them. TLC spent the money to film all these episodes. You'd think they would want to see good ratings come out of it. But it seems like they want the show to fail…maybe so they can dump her once and for all? Ae they sick of her attitude again? If so, then they were stupid to ever think she had changed. She was on her best behavior for awhile because she wanted back on TV. Once she became comfortable, the real Kate came roaring back. Leopards don't change their spots.
When she's nervous or anxious about something or about to tell a whopper, her cheeks seem to get hot red, and flushed, and she breaks out in red spots on her neck, but it's not really hives. I've seen it happen. She can't control it.
Assuming this wasn't clever editing, Kate NODS in response to the statement from the reporter that Jon doesn't know where Colin is.
WTF!!! So she ADMITS she's kept him in the dark?? WOW.
You know, in talking about people being "emboldened" these past few weeks (B.S.), I'll tell you what real emboldened is, and that's her. She keeps pushing the envelope more and more because no one stops her. She's so obviously unhinged at this point but no one is telling her "no."
Did you watch the GMA clip? What do you make of her demeanor? She really looks psychopathic to me when she's discussing Collin like he's some object she's hidden away.
Am I the only one that finds Kates statement, her knowing where Collin is but the world doesn't, kinda scary? I feel like I should be taking a shovel to the compound!! No kidding that gave me chills!
Deric Lostutter just pled guilty to federal charges of hacking and other online crimes. He was being paid for at least a year by McGibney; at first he claimed he was hired to provide security for McG's websites, but he later confessed to hacking and online stalking of Mr. BV's various victims. He first became famous as KYAnonymous on Twitter when he involved himself in the Steubenville rape case (I believe that's how he came to McG's attention). So besides all the other court actions McG has been involved in over the last 40 months, it is conjectured that Lostutter's confession will to result in some new case(s) being filed against McG, very possibly by the Feds.
It sounds like Kate placed Colin in an institution for children who are a threat to others and himself, like a hospital or something. It is so upsetting for that kid that I can't think of the correct words. I just hope he is somewhere safe right now. Odd that Kate never says she visits or is in constant contact with his caregivers at this point.
Those kids will be teenagers in 5 months or so. They are not mature at all for their age.
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TFW should be taking to Twitter any time now to announce her live tweet party and promise a follow to those who quote a line from the show. Wait for it.
Ha Ha! I like how GMA refers to her as the former Kate Plus 8 star
The GMA website refers to her as the "former" Kate+8 star.
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No, one example of many. And there is no evidence that this person was mentally ill but plenty that he was an asshole with a big chip on his shoulder.
It is hardly "petulance" to remain deeply concerned about infringements on civil rights, homophobic policies etc. Clearly you don't get it and never well, but the election of an incompetent, narcissistic reality star who is the puppet of the alt right is not something that people are going to "get over" in a week. Just because you don't give a shit about the treatment of your fellow citizens doesn't mean others are going to sit back and shut up. Sorry that bothers you so.
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Over the past eight years, I could show you daily, DAILY examples of that and similar behavior from fringe groups and the mentally ill. We had numerous hate motivated mass shootings, numerous anti-Islamic disturbances, numerous hate crimes and prejudice against gays and other groups. Obama was not blamed for such disturbances, not once, nor should he be. We had a long conversation here about the bigot Kim Davis. No one blamed Obama for her behavior. She is her own self and responsible for her own actions. But you can bet your bottom dollar if Kim Davis waited until today to deny gay marriages, you would be sitting here crying about Trump and how he emboldened her.
Nonsense. But by all means, when you don't like the president, it's all his fault. I cannot stand when people scapegoat for their own agenda, and no, that opinion won't change.
Oh, and there is no "homophobic" policy out there from this incoming administration. Another lie from the left. Trump couldn't have been clearer. He respects the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage, and he's not touching it. He had a prominent member of the gay community as keynote speaker at one of his events. He waved around the gay pride flag proudly. How could he possibly be any clearer on this issue? What else do you WANT from him? And this from a far right candidate is risking a LOT when there are some people in the party who must have been livid he's been so supportive. No one ever points out that up until a couple years ago, Hillary was ADAMANTLY against gay marriage. They had a golden opportunity to be more welcoming and inclusive during their eight years and they blew it. But that's fine, right?
If anyone is revving people up (with lies), it's your side. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Leslie said... 195
I have not been reading this blog lately but after reading the above page, I feel very depressed over the Gosselins. They are so F***ked up. It is so sad.
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Yup, you've summed it up well. I agree that it's senseless to "prove" to the world that Jon texts Kate. What was the point?
The whole interview was pointless and sad.
No one seems to care that there's a much-loved reality tv boy-a boy that's been on tv screens for 10 years- MIA. There's a father who has been on NATIONAL TV saying for almost a year now, that he has no contact with his son and wants to see him.
Worse, no one cares that Kate continues to film like there's no tomorrow.
No. One. Cares.
Leslie, Josh was at Jinger's wedding. There are pictures of him holding his young son. And Anna is right there with him.
I believe the second picture of Josh and Anna in this article is at Jinger's wedding.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/11/josh-and-anna-duggar-so-happy-together-at-jinger-duggar-jeremy-v/
GMC? You mean GMA?
Just unbelievable.
It will be sickening to watch her answer softball questions. Again.
@Layla (198) Actually both Jamezvader with a z and Jamesvader and with an s are both my accounts.The reason was i have a laptop and a mac and when i started going on this blog i accidentally made both accounts.So any other accounts aren't mine.
GollyGee (#10), it's a safe bet there will be tears (via poking and dabbing), which TFW must have been practicing since the People issue came out. Poor me (poke, dab), special needs child (poke, dab), doing it all alone (poke, dab). Blech.
Wonder when she'll head to NYC to get herself beautified. Too bad she can't be bothered to try to improve her insides.
Breezy said... 4
Ha Ha! I like how GMA refers to her as the former Kate Plus 8 star
November 18, 2016 at 10:14 AM
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The GMA website refers to her as the "former" Kate+8 star.
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Ha!, first of all ;-)
And...I wonder if the Today show can't help her anymore.
Oh, lovely. Kate and Steve can have yet another romantic long weekend in NYC.
Sad but true said...
in re: Jon giving up legal custody in exchange for not paying child support.
"Whatever she was doing was surely nowhere near as lucrative as her TLC heights had been. It just seems a strange time for her to say (if this is what happened), okay you don't need to pay anymore."
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As Admin has explained so many times, one parent cannot absolve another of their obligation to pay child support, plus the court system is the only party able to make that decision. So, can we please put this rumor about a deal being made about Jon not having to pay support in exchange for giving up legal custody to rest?
Jon's interview was pointless. Word came out shortly after the People article that Jon said that Kate didn't tell him what facility Collin was admitted to. Jon is going to contact an attorney now... WTH. His interview, with softball questions, was pointless. When is he going to be asked why hasn't anything changed after the numerous times that he said that he was going to Court. Based on Jon's past interviews, it's been about 2 1/2 yrs since he has seen Collin. Hey Jon, you need to get off script - stop saying 1 1/2 yrs and I'm going to Court and I don't know why.
Also, the wording of his text was interesting ... "I've been meaning to ask you...." That sounds like he never asked Kate where Collin was. Jon, you sound like a broken record.
Has TFW been back on the Today Show since she paraded the twins in front of America and they failed to speak badly about Jon?
As Admin has explained so many times, one parent cannot absolve another of their obligation to pay child support, plus the court system is the only party able to make that decision. So, can we please put this rumor about a deal being made about Jon not having to pay support in exchange for giving up legal custody to rest?
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The easiest way to remember this is to remember that child support is for the benefit of the children, not the parents. Therefore, parents can't make sweetheart deals among each other, using child support as a tool or leverage, because they can't play games with something that is not for THEIR benefit. In other words, you can't give up something that wasn't meant for you in the first place. You have no right to give up something that's not even yours.
LOL, I guess TLC couldn't manage the usual Today Show pre-show publicity interview after that epic scene with the twins. GMA drew the short straw. And yes, NO DOUBT, she and Steve will be in NYC enjoying a cozy dinner.
I was watching Project Runway. They had a commercial for Outdaughtered that showed the worried parents and then one of the babies getting treatment with an oxygen mask. Gotta film those babies in the hospital. It's pathetic.
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Look, I get that, I really do. Nonetheless, there was that statement from Kate's attorney. Would an attorney be allowed to make a representation like this if it weren't true? If it were not even legally possible?
"Cheryl Young has represented Kate in her ongoing legal battle with her ex-husband, and she told RadarOnline.com that Jon shouldn't be complaining about his money woes:
"I read Jon's statement on RadarOnline.com and was quite surprised to read that he claims to be struggling to keep his child support payments current. As of April 27, 2012, Kate voluntarily relieved Jon of all current and future child support obligations for their eight children."
That, plus the fact that Jon appears to have absolutely no rights with respect to his children, including the whole visitation thing, is what makes me wonder if he didn't cut some kind of deal with her, one that perhaps was not disclosed to the court but which he is interpreting one way and she another.
What the attorney stated suggests to me is that NO ONE is paying CS for those kids, that Kate pays all their expenses from their earnings (as she was permitted to do under the terms of their trusts) and her "waiving current and future support" was an acknowledgment of that.
I don't know if any of this makes sense from a legal point of view. I am just baffled why Jon continues to repeat that he has no "rights" with respect to the kids. How and when did that happen? There was a time, and not all that long ago, when they were all seeing him; I think things began to change when he was dating Liz, with the pitbulls. Or maybe it's when TLC came back into their house, which would have been in spring 2014. Either way, it wasn't always like this.
Ugh.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 12m12 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 So looks like you will be on @ABC's #GMA this coming Monday? Maybe we get new jnsight on the #KatePlus8 episodes? #ThumbsUp
No one needs "new insight [sic]" on the episodes, it's the same old same old same old. And nothing needing any insight will be asked of her. You know the drill, Milo.
Sad but true (#21), bless her heart, Gladys always tries to put a question in her tweets, in hopes TFW will respond.
I wonder if TFW will risk a tweet party, when there might be some angry comments and questions about C's disappearance.
Looks like Kate is already in NYC. She gave an interview to Extra today.
http://extratv.com/2016/11/18/kate-gosselin-gives-update-on-son-after-sending-him-away-months-ago/
"Kate Gosselin and her kids are headed back to TV. Ten years after the family starred in “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” Kate and her eight are back on TLC with “Kate Plus 8.” Kate chatted with “Extra’s” AJ Calloway at our H&M studios in Times Square about what fans can expect from the latest series, updating AJ on how her son Collin is doing.
Kate previously made it public that one of her sextuplets, Collin, 12, was living away from home as he dealt with behavioral issues. “He's chugging along,” she told AJ. "It’s a family experience that we are dealing the best we can with… Everyone’s got their stuff. Another bump in the road and we're all doing the best that we can with it. I am confident he is in the best hands and receiving the best of what’s being offered for his situation.”
The hardest part for Kate was accepting that her son needed special help she could not give. "It’s kind of humbling when as a mom you have to admit that, 'I am not enough for what you need.' That’s kind of what I struggle with, but we're moving on. In life, it’s more about how you deal with the situation than the situation you were dealt.”
Gosselin and ex-husband Jon haven’t had a good relationship in some time, and Kate said that hasn’t changed. “I don’t have a relationship with him — I’ve moved on.” When it comes to their children, she told AJ, "I support the kids and their relationship [with him] — some visit, some choose not to, some visit sometimes. I support them and what they want so they can be happy and whole.”
The estranged couple’s relationship dissolved while filming their reality show. When asked if she thought they would still be together had there not been a show, she replied, “All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, and I always say it [would have] ended the same way, except the world wouldn’t have known about it… I think that along the way, the signs were there and it’s unfortunate regardless.”
The 41-year-old, who previously appeared on “The Celebrity Apprentice,” weighed in on President-elect Trump, saying, “That’s kind of a weird thing to think about because I knew him outside of and prior to ‘Apprentice.’ I fully expect him to take his success in business and make our country successful. I hope that and hope that others can get behind him. I do know that at the heart of Donald Trump is a true and utter love of our country, and if he allows that to guide him, we will all be really happy.”
As for “Kate Plus 8," she commented, “This season kind of started filming early this year. You're gonna see a lot of stuff… You’re going to see birthdays, a sixteenth birthday party; finally, the girls let me have a birthday party for them, big one! Mind you, they planned the party. I need to make that clear, because they’ll crucify me if they see this and I don’t make that clear… It was their way, and so we'll see a 12th birthday party for the little kids… Trips, we visited New Orleans, we built an igloo this past winter — it was super fun.”
We can also look forward to some four-legged Gosselins! "We added two new family members that have fur — they are my other children.”
“Kate Plus 8” premieres Tuesday on TLC."
So she considers what's going on with Collin just "another bump in the road". Really?
Look, I get that, I really do. Nonetheless, there was that statement from Kate's attorney. Would an attorney be allowed to make a representation like this if it weren't true? If it were not even legally possible?
"Cheryl Young has represented Kate in her ongoing legal battle with her ex-husband, and she told RadarOnline.com that Jon shouldn't be complaining about his money woes:
"I read Jon's statement on RadarOnline.com and was quite surprised to read that he claims to be struggling to keep his child support payments current. As of April 27, 2012, Kate voluntarily relieved Jon of all current and future child support obligations for their eight children."
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That could just be attorney double speak. We've been known to do it.
All she's saying is that Kate had no objection to what happened in court. She never says Kate gave up anything or initiated anything, or there was some kind of exchange.
What could have happened is Jon filed to reduce his support, for whatever reason. Hardship, change in circumstances, more time with the children, etc. As long as the judge found it was in the children's best interest (likely, because they already are very well cared for off their OWN salaries), he can grant her. All her attorney is saying is they didn't fight it.
If she wants to spin that as Kate is the martyr who made this happen, whatever. For all we know Kate never even responded to notice of the support reducing unless she had an objection.
When she and Steve get to N.Y. for the GMA show, I wouldn't put it past her to try to squeeze in a stop at the Trump Tower. Even if she can't wangle a visit with the President-to-be, she might just show up so that she is photographed there, being such a close friend (in her mind).
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KIAT (#23), thanks for posting that interview.
Good grief, she is 12 years old. Seriously. She tries desperately to communicate like an adult, and use big words and serious phrases, but she has the intellect and emotional maturity of a 12-year-old. I'm not being flippant. There's something disturbing about it.
So she's "moved on" from Jon? When you need to co-parent 8 CHILDREN until they turn 18, and beyond, how in the world is moving on an option?
If she's in NYC today, I bet she will stay for the weekend. Why go back to PA and the kids when she can spend time away from them (and alone with Steve) shopping, eating fish in paper, and being pampered at Ted Gibson? She's been stuck in Ghettoville with her kids for a long time. I wouldn't put it past her to schedule interviews days apart so she could have an excuse to stay away.
Sad but true (21) "Insanity:Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". Albet Einstein
As Collin chuggs along he is a bump in the road. She has been hitting that bump in the road since he was a toddler. But the fun continues because she has two new family members who are her other children - so all is well.
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Judging by the other guests that are on GMA on Monday I'm guessing that TFW will probably only get a couple of minutes like she did the last time. Kyra Sedgwick (new movie & oh yeah, married to Kevin Bacon), Lin-Manuel Miranda (I can't wait to see Hamilton), Ayesha Curry (new cookbook) and TFW and ABC's tweet doesn't mention anything else about her.
@ABCNewsPR: Monday on @GMA:@kyrasedgwick from @EdgeOf17; @Lin_Manuel from @DisneyMoana; @ayeshacurry on her cookbook #TheSeasonedLife & @Kateplusmy8
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This non-fan has a point. When TFW gives an interview it's thumbs up but when Jon does it, shame (bang the gong).
@DonutsForCollin: @ABCNewsPR @GMA @kyrasedgwick @DisneyMoana @ayeshacurry @Kateplusmy8 when Jon speaks to media...& thumbs up when K8 speaks to media. https://twitter.com/DonutsForCollin/status/799763880423530496/photo/1
“All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, . . ."
The writing was actually in your diary, Kate, long before you thought of divorce. How did you put it? Do it my way or we will not have happy lives? What a disgusting cow.
Sounds like the season's a real mish-mash if they're including "igloo" scenes we know they shot last February. I guess that'll make it harder to figure out when precisely Collin was shown the door.
Collin is chugging along?
Seriously!?! Dang.
Where is he? At a Frat party at Delta Kappa?
Her language structure, thought process, broken thoughts, off the tracks insanity.
If the truth be known, bet she has to have picture menu at NOBU because of her toddler tantrum when she wanted NOBU! NOBU! I WANT NOBU!!!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 24
That could just be attorney double speak. We've been
known to do it.
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Well, you said it, I didn't. :)
jamezvader1194 said... 28
Sad but true (21) "Insanity:Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". Albet Einstein
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James, I know you meant, Albert Einstein.
But, I couldn't help but think Albet, Albert Einstein is rolling in his grave listening to TFW and her insanity speech about Life without Collin.
How TLC can go through this SHAM of a show and SHOW it to the masses is insane.
I just hope it adds more zeros to the check that they are eventually gonna have to write out.
Get your ink pen Ellen. Yep, Ellen, you were there too.
What number of viewers would it have to be at that TLC would finally cancel after the Tuesday showing?
She is not going away. Not ever. Neither is Milo. It's like we're in some bizarre universe or Twilight Zone where every day is Groundhog Day.
ABCNewsPR: Monday on @GMA:@kyrasedgwick from @EdgeOf17; @Lin_Manuel from @DisneyMoana; @ayeshacurry on her cookbook #TheSeasonedLife & @Kateplusmy8
If people click on the link to her Twitter Fred they may get a little more than they bargained for!
Wow, stop throwing such tough questions at me. Let me think...give me a while...I GOT IT! I wanted him not to put raging homophobes into positions of power, starting with not putting a Neanderthal like Mike Pence on the ticket.
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Have you ever heard of or read Obergefell v. Hodges? The Supreme Court decision on gay marriage. Written by Justice Kennedy. Read it. Kennedy was very clear. He couldn't care less what people want to think about homosexuals, and he has no problem if people don't support gay marriage on religious grounds or ANY grounds. What was said, is that government can't prevent same-sex marriages. He was also very clear that people have a right to their religious beliefs nonetheless, and no one can tell people they shouldn't believe what they like about gay marriage.
I don't much care how individuals feel about gay marriage. I don't care how Kim Davis feels. I only care if you're going to use your beliefs to stop others from doing something that is legal to do. No one is doing that.
The Loving v. Virginia oral arguments and opinion are also something you should read. They do a great job explaining why personal beliefs shouldn't dictate government's laws but that personal beliefs are still permitted. In other words, if you think people of different races shouldn't marry, then you don't have to choose that for yourself. You can still have your beliefs.
Unlike you, I don't require everyone to think exactly like me. The IRONY of the socialism/nazism accusations. The irony. Once we become a society where everyone is required to have all of the same beliefs, we lose our diversity and our greatness, and very bad things can happen. I think gay marriage is on exactly the right track, but what if we get off track and everyone is required to believe something that's really wrong? Do you see the danger? I think it would be nice if everyone were fully behind gay marriage, but at the same time, I think it's important to allow for lots of different thoughts and ideas as a "check" on any one idea getting off track.
Everyone in this country is required to follow the law, and gay marriage is the law. Unless and until this administration says they're going to change it (which, they said the opposite, they're leaving it alone), I don't care how religious the cabinet is. This country could use a little religion. Put your faith in God, not the government to solve your problems. But please stop telling other people what to believe and how to think. We can force people like Kim Davis to stamp and sign marriage certificates, and I'll force her to do so to the death--but I'll also defend to the death Kim Davis's right to hold whatever dumb beliefs she likes as long as she follows the law. And I in turn will defend my right to the death to make fun of her for the bigoted idiot she is. We NEED Kim Davises in this world to keep a certain balance.
Bottom line as long as people are capable of understanding the separation of church and state, then welcome to the cabinet.
Oh and I will say this, I quite dislike the bullying and shaming from the far left about what people are required to believe, which inevitably results in name calling and more shaming when you don't. I find it very ironic that these same people get upset when government tells them where they can pee or what to do with their body, but have no problem tell people how to think. They don't hear themselves or see it, I guess. At the end of the day I'm really a libertarian and would have voted for a libertarian if one were put forward who was any good, and I don't think the government should tell you where to pee, what to do with your body or who you can't marry, but I can honestly say I've never seen a libertarian bully or shame the other parties for their beliefs or insist and require they come over to a libertarian viewpoint. But I see it all.the.time. from liberals. They literally cannot understand how anyone, anyone at all, could possibly see the world differently. They have no understanding for what someone who grew up in a red state or red part of the country is about. They have no idea the real struggles of many red state folks they have so callously lumped and dismissed into their "white privilege" box. It really is absolutely disgusting the way liberals talk to the heart of America, the verbal abuse constantly slung at good people, the name calling, the categorizing, the accusations most of which are false--and I'm ashamed for you and deeply embarrassed by the past week and a half.
“All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, . . ."
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The total and utter denial of the role reality TV has played in shaping this family is fascinating. It's truly a total refusal to take any ownership of it.
“All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, . . ."
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Pigeonholed.
Code Speak for:
Zorro is not with the family anymore.
Reality tv killed my Zorro.
Dab...Tear...Dab...Tear
Twitter Fred? I haven't even had anything to drink (but maybe I should)! Twitter feed!
@GollyGee Im convince something happen to Zorro.The last picture of him on the IG account was 12 weeks ago (which was around August 26)and some people have ask for his whereabouts and Kate has ignored it.Even with all these puppy pictures,i would of expected Kate to upload at least one picture of him on the IG account or her own.
@GollyGee Im convince something happen to Zorro.The last picture of him on the IG account was 12 weeks ago (which was around August 26)and some people have ask for his whereabouts and Kate has ignored it.Even with all these puppy pictures,i would of expected Kate to upload at least one picture of him on the IG account or her own.
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Zorro was her new toy. He served his purpose and she's tired of him. He most likely has been banished to his cage. New puppies have taken over for filming purposes.
If people click on the link to her Twitter Fred they may get a little more than they bargained for!
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I made a mistake and clicked on the link to Twitter Ethel and all I got were some tweets saying that Fred had some 'splaining to do.
Saying C is "chugging along" is a particularly odd description of the emotional well being of a young child removed from his home. It sounds more like she's talking about a work situation. Or an appliance.
Maybe she'll say Colin took Zorro with him for company. (You can pay me later, Kate, for the idea.)
We knew from tweets that she was filming during the blizzard last winter. They're actually going to air that old stuff. And what's that crap about the twins allowing her to have a party for them? All these years that the tups got a big party and the twins got nothing is because they didn't "allow" Kate to have one. Yup those selfless 8 year olds telling Kate we don't need one this year. The twins planned their own party in the hope that Kate wouldn't show up dressed like a drunk clown. Someone do me a favor pls and count how often Kate hugs the puppies on camera. It might be more in this "season" than she's hugged the kids in 10 years.
Sherri said: "So, can we please put this rumor about a deal being made about Jon not having to pay support in exchange for giving up legal custody to rest?"
I understand the courts would not allow it. But I personally think Jon and Kate came to an verbal agreement/understanding of letting her to film the kids and giving her legal custody of making all the important decisions and she would not expect child support.His child support (and he was behind at times) was chump change to Kate anyway. This agreement did not have to involve the courts at all. And I make these assumptions because why else would Jon possible give up legal custody of his own children? Something happened since the divorce was finalized.
And if Jon did give up legal custody he probably figured correctly that Kate was going to make all the big decisions anyway. She always did in the past and he knew she would in the future whether he agreed with it or not. It is within Kate's personality to control everything and everyone and it is within his personality to be laid back and go with the flow. And I really do think Jon had a very hard time making child support payments. Any man with eight kids would.
But I do believe Jon has always loved and still loves his children dearly. I believe he pays their way when they visit him. That in itself costs a hefty sum. I believe he wants to visit regularly with all his kids too. So I am not saying he is a bad father or person at all. I just think he knew he was in a very different situation that 99.9% of all other families. And that being that TLC had always paid the families bills and he knew that fighting Kate and TLC was probably a losing battle. Heck, he had already lost a battle with TLC. He knows better than anybody how Kate is crazy/mean and he knows he couldn't always take her to court over every decision they disagree about. He never had the money or the fortitude to do that and I don't blame him.
But he needs to stop going public with the family business. It makes him look bad and Kate is only going to use it against him. She will twist anything to alienate Jon against the kids more and more. Like her own kids say, "she is so competitive." Gee, and before our very eyes she is competing like hell to be a better parent than Jon. Of course, that in her sick mind that means bigger house, more money, more vacations, etc. Kate does not have any clue what it takes to be a great parent.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 47
Saying C is "chugging along" is a particularly odd description of the emotional well being of a young child removed from his home. It sounds more like she's talking about a work situation. Or an appliance.
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Yes, you are right. She is an ODD one that is for sure. She thinks she's cute talking like a just turned teen, but it looks really BAD and STUNTED on her part.
To say C is chugging along is just plain wrong. Sending him off his plain wrong. Not letting him see his brother and sisters is plain wrong and not letting him see his father plain wrong.
I could go on and on.
She is crazy, evil and did I mention,
Mentally Insane?
12 WEEKS and no Zorro?
I knew it was awhile, but 12 WEEKS?
I think he is dead. The kids were devastated and with the possibilities of filming with puppies, she killed Zorro with the proverbial 1 stone.
I am "stealing" this photo from RoxyHelen's post#60 but don't think she will mind.
https://s21.postimg.org/rj3zs8bw7/collin_2.jpg
It is of Colin sitting down on a couch with Kate and others. Colin has a shocked look on his poor face and is just staring in disbelief at his mother. Kate looks like she is having a MAJOR freak out. This photo just makes me so mad. Here is Colin who has problems regulating his emotions and here is his mother (being filmed no less) acing like a complete out of control banshee in front of her son. I swear this woman can't respect for her own son. Her behavior is so out of control it is no wonder she could not help Colin.
Yes, Colin's problem(s) are partially from the way his brain is wired but nobody can tell me that Kate's repeated freak outs all his life have not had profound influence on him. I feel so sorry for him. I wonder what this scene was about. Not that it really matters though.
Pictures of Kate on the set of Extra. Just hover over a picture to enlarge it.
http://tinyurl.com/zfyt7lx
Oh my, I looked at the Extra photos and you can so clearly see the outline of Kate's bra. This was no accident. She looks thinner than usual. And she got another dose of botox. And again, those nails are so out of date. They are so fake and gross too.
Several people have commented that TLC may be ready to dump her because they haven't advertised her show. I watched two hours of the "600 pound" show a few nights ago and everybody is right. There was advertising for the Roloffs and the Outdaughtered but zero for Kate. But why would TLC send her to NY if they are ready to ax her after this "season". Maybe TLC thinks because her show will air after the other two newer shows that there is no need to promote her show on their station. After people watch the first two shows people will either stay tuned in for Kate or turn the channel because their minds have already been made up. They know what Kate's show is all about after ten years of her being on TV. Something tells me TLC will never dump her. But I do think it speaks volumes that Kate Plus 8 is not the lead in show. Heck, it wasn't even the lead in show last time. It was the Little Couple.
She moved on from Jon when TLC hired Steve. She tossed Jon aside like she did with her parents, friends and her son, Collin.
GMA will do a quick 2 minute spot. And for that, Kate gets a free weekend in NYC.
Time for a new hairstyle! Ugh, that long mop isn't working! Looks like a bleached horse.....
Leslie said... 52
Well said. She acts like a maniac and then wonders why her kids do the same.
That photo is during the Gosselin Memory Game, where Kate sets up a contest to see how well the kids can remember the TLC-edited version of their lives. I'm sure points are lost when you remember something that was supposed to have been suppressed. Sounds fun, right?
Kate is a twit said... 53
Thanks for posting this, KIAT. Looks to me like Kate's had a face tune-up. Something's different.
Leslie said... 52
It is of Colin sitting down on a couch with Kate and others. Colin has a shocked look on his poor face and is just staring in disbelief at his mother.
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That's his "chugging along" face. And look at Kate's face. Aren't they supposed to be playing a game? Yikes.
During a couch interview one of the girls said no one wants to be on Kate's team. And Jon said Kate spoils all the fun. That one picture tells it all.
How would you like to see that face screeching at you and grabbing you by the hair when you're two years old?
Judging by the recent clips, Kate has no control whatsoever over her temper. She hasn't mellowed out one bit.
Admin, I wouldn't blame you if you don't want to watch and do any recaps. There's no way I could sit through two minutes of watching any of that.
http://tinyurl.com/zfyt7lx
She should have worn a different bra.
Leslie,
If the courts won't allow it now do you think Jon gets away without paying child support and not be legally "behind" on child support. That makes no sense. Then Kate could go after him for not paying all these years. If it's illegal for her to waive his child support payments then they can't have a legal agreement that he won't pay and that she won't go after him.
Jon doesn't have to pay child support because the children support themselves. Kate does not pay child support herself and they live with her. She does not support the children financially while they are in her custody. If she doesn't then why should Jon?
The children's trusts pay for their present schooling and expenses. Kate doesn't.
I think the agreement Kate conceded to would be that since Kate isn't paying then Jon shouldn't either so he's not legally required to. She can't argue that one.
Why is that so hard for people to understand and accept?
Sad but true (#58), TFW's face always looks different when when she's away from her kids. Because she's happy. When that camera is on her, and her children are far away, she lights up like a Christmas tree.
I can't stomach to look at the picture, but I sure wouldn't be surprised if she's gotten a tune up. What piecin'-and-patchin' single mother of 8 kids, without a steady job, wouldn't treat herself to some cosmetic enhancements in between vacations?
#MomLife
WHOA, she's had some major work done. And good quality too. She looks 5 years younger.
Glad to see she's spending the kids' money wisely.
We know Kate took the kids out West last Thanksgiving (I think she said she even paid for it---heavens!). What do you think that chances are that Jon will see any of his kids this holiday season?
http://tinyurl.com/zfyt7lx
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Wow, nice see-thru top! Kate is nearly unrecognizable at this point. Fresh filler for the press junket.
How would you like to see that face screeching at you and grabbing you by the hair when you're two years old?
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That was a completely different face back then!
She looks vaguely like herself back when she was first growing her hair out. There was a promo photo of her with the kids where she's wearing a light-blue, cap-sleeved top and hair about down to her jawline (this is probably late 2010/early 2011). I guess that's the photo they pulled up to guide this latest "enhancement."
In the midtown area of NYC there are three huge billboards for Outdaughtered. I haven't seen any for Kate.
Nothing shows how relatable you are than having a quiz show about your family, played by your family, and shown on your TV show.
I have a feeling these kids are going to pay for several psychiatrists' luxury cars a few years down the line.
Jane (#69), yeah, looks like poor Schmoopie is still just TLC's sidepiece.
I wonder if TFW has an underlying sense of desperation about this little press junket. Perhaps being off the air for almost a year has her scared that this may be her last chance to, as she once said, hit it out of the park. She's no longer the fresh-faced, frazzled mom to a houseful of little kids. She's a few months away from being 42, and having 8 teenagers. And the Duggars have taken a significant chunk of TLC's attention and resources that might have gone her way. Jinger could be pregnant by Christmas, and Jessa's 2nd baby is due in February, so there's no end in sight for this family. So I suspect these might be worrisome times for TFW. Then again, I'm not sure if she's got the awareness I'm giving her credit for.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 41
“All I can say is that a lot of people try to pigeonhole you and say reality TV led to that. The writing was already written on the wall, . . ."
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The total and utter denial of the role reality TV has played in shaping this family is fascinating. It's truly a total refusal to take any ownership of it.
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C'mon. Reality tv led to money and privilege and fame. That led to a ton of plastic surgeries and Steve.
Everything changed and Jon became a vestigial appendage that she thought she didn't need anymore.
CC said... 62
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The children's trusts pay for their present schooling and expenses. Kate doesn't.
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Taking this to its logical conclusion, do you think Kate pays herself a salary from their funds for being their caretaker? As well as Steve, for being their protector? I have no doubt there's a lot of slush in the accounting.
CC,
I think you MAY (not sure) have some points mixed-up. I am no expert so perhaps Admin., can chime in.
1) You are stating the courts would not allow Jon to pay no support. I think the court would not allow the legal agreement of "you don't pay support but you let me film the kids". As Admin. said above, "Parents can't make sweetheart deals among each other, using child support as a tool or leverage, because they can't play games with something that is not for THEIR benefit." But I think Kate may have told the court Jon's support is not needed and proved to the court that fact. Admin.could Kate have done this legally? No deals just her telling oir filing with the court that she does not need his support and provide financial statements to back it up.Then the court erases his support payments.
2) Then you stated, Jon doesn't have to pay child support because the children support themselves." You just contradicted yourself.
3) Why would Kate ever have to pay child support to the court for her 8 kids that live with her? She never did pay support and never will. The court never required it either.
4) You said, "The children's trusts pay for their present schooling and expenses. Kate doesn't." We don't know that. I do know and it was made public that there is a trust but we don't know if daily living expenses comes out of that. That trust may be just for college and/or school tuition prior to college.
But I agree that Kate does not support the kids and they support themselves. Hence, that is what I meant in my post that TLC has always paid the family bills past and future. What is unfair is Jon literally works a "real" job and has for many years, and Kate just sits on her butt not working a job but stating SHE is the one ONLY supporting HER kids. CC we agree filming is what supports these kids. There are 8 kids that are filmed in the great majority of the 150 plus episodes, therefore; absolutely they support themselves. I have always thought that. Also Kate has further profited off of the kids with three of her books that were 100% about the kids. The cookbook was somewhat of an exception but that earned squat!
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Amen. I woke up to see the cast of Hamilton lecturing the VP-elect from the stage, and this is EXACTLY why we need the electoral college.
I agree with you about bathrooms and gay marriage. All for it.
But ffs, the intolerance of the left for the right is sickening.
It reminds me of a Sex And The City episode, where Carrie sets Miranda up on a blind date. The blind date is a friend of the guy Carrie's dating, and he's a total Manhattan-ite, who honestly believes the the world begins and ends on that tiny island.
He never, ever left and never, ever wants to leave. Everything you could ever, ever want is in Manhattan, and I find this typifies the elites on the coasts who think their America doesn't exist in the middle of the country.
And the Republicans are xenophobes.
Sorry for the rant, but I'm getting so sick of this refusal to accept reality and the righteous indignation of the people who lost.
I was one of them!
Where I live, we've had high school students walking out of class ALL WEEK LONG, in protest. I'm all for protest, but not at the expense of of school.
The Superintendent of Schools is say, "Well, what do you want me to do?"
I'd be LIVID if I sent my kids to school, where I expect grown ups are taking their charges seriously, only to find out that they are doing NOTHING to ensure they stay on campus, and are safe.
LIVID.
Sorry another thought. It burns me badly when we hear the kids thank "mommy" for taking them on vacations. TLC takes them on vacations. Kate just goes along making them miserable. Kate should be thanking the kids because without them she wouldn't be vacationing in those great places several times a year without them. She would be working her butt off on a real job.
Tucker, I was thinking about whether there was some kind of good movie or show that would help the blue cities out there better understand what the heart of America is really about, and it came to me, The Farmer's Wife. You can find it on youtube for free.
Juanita wasn't walking around ranting about gay marriage or abortion or who can go in what bathroom. She was simply worried about putting food on the table for her girls and giving them a nice birthday party when she had no money for anything special. This was filmed over several years in the 90's, and it really helps to explain why the Clinton years in the 90's were not all rosy for this part of the country. In fact, it was some of their worst years. After watching it, you can understand why folks like Juanita and Darren would gravitate toward candidates that reassure them they will support the farmers, lower their taxes, and help to make their struggles better. These people don't appreciate being constantly lectured about racism or homophobia when they wouldn't have the time to be racist or homophobic even if they wanted to.
I have the advantage of living many years in both a very red, dairy farmer-heavy part of the country, and one of the bluest cities in the country. But many people never experience both on any kind of meaningful level (a layover in Kansas doesn't count), and what seems to have developed is a total lack of understanding, and what's worse, mischaracterization, for how the other half lives. Racism, abortion, guns, were rarely the topics of conversation in my red community. But taxes, veterans, jobs sure were. One candidate spoke better to the taxes-veterans-jobs folks out there, and he won for it. A lot is being leaked about the Clinton campaign, and it's been revealed that apparently Bill Clinton was complaining for months that the campaign was not reaching the blue collar taxes-veterans-jobs people. When he tried to tell Hillary where she was missing the mark, she ignored him and played on her phone. He was blown off, told that's off track, told that doesn't matter. Apparently, he's been going around saying told ya so.
As for those students, get your butts back in class and start learning something. At the very least spend some time with The Farmer's Wife before writing off the rest of America as pre-Nazi racists.
Jane thanks for the info about the three huge billboards about Outdaughtered in New York City. TLC is really gunning hard for this family. I watched a few episodes and it was a sweet show but nothing special.
What made Jon & Kate Plus 8 such a draw was unfortunately the ugliness between the parents and Kate's craziness. And of course the show was a hit because the eight were absolutely adorable--both in looks and their personalities. And their mixed heritage made them stand out too.
The Busbys are a sweet couple but I don't see anything in the show that will make it a standout like the Gosselins did in the beginning. And their 5 daughters are still so young that they really don't have much personality at their age.
Over And Out said... 37
She is not going away. Not ever. Neither is Milo. It's like we're in some bizarre universe or Twilight Zone where every day is Groundhog Day.
November 18, 2016 at 5:33 PM
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Except the groundhog's cheeks keep getting puffier, and the face keeps getting smother and smoother.
Further to what Sad but true @ 74 said - I'll bet there is a great deal of creative accounting going on at that address.
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The kids are right smack dab in the middle of that time in their lives where they are old enough to start grasping some major realizations. Leslie, one of those will be that THEY funded all this, not Kate, and yet all along Kate has taken all the credit. That's not going to go over well with at least some of them.
I really recommend Melissa Francis's book about being a child star. She started to realize how exploited she was only when she got to the teen years. She just wasn't old enough to grasp it all when she was younger. The kids can and will get there, very, very soon. The only question remains which ones will be accepting of what happened to them, and which ones, like Missy, will not.
Leslie,
1) If Kate proved to the court that Jon's support isn't needed then how does that give Kate leverage? She can't get Jon to sign something legally giving her custody in exchange for no child support. Jon would not have to stick to such a deal. That makes no sense.
2) How did I contradict myself? If the kids' trusts fully support them while under Kate's care, why would Jon have to pay them child support if he can show that Kate isn't financially supporting them while they are in her custody?
3) I never said Kate would have to pay "child support" if they live with her. I said she's not supporting them financially while they live with her. Their trusts support them.
4) Jon did an interview and it explained that the child support issue and how the children's trusts pay for their current schooling, college, AND all their expenses. I posted the link a while ago:
We ask Jon about some of the rumors about him through the years — like that he never paid Kate child support. He says it’s untrue.
“My first child support payments were $22,000 a month. I paid out $175,000 [in one year],” he says. “Go ask anyone how much they’ve paid out in child support ever. I guarantee it’s not $175,000 in one year.”
When he got a normal, non-TV job, his child payments “went to $2,000 and then it went to $1,500. Then Kate … denounced support because I got shared custody, and there’s no more support because it’s just pointless. I gave her $3 million. I walked away. I moved. [I said], ‘Take all of it.’ It was a moral sacrifice for my children.”
Regardless of who got what in the split, Jon says the kids are well taken care of thanks to their trust created with reality show earnings and endorsements. It pays for their private school educations now and all their expenses, and it will eventually cover their college tuitions as well. And that’s not that far away for Mady and Cara.
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/jon-gosselin-is-no-longer-afraid-to-speak-his-mind-210338955.html
Kate previously made it public that one of her sextuplets, Collin, 12, was living away from home as he dealt with behavioral issues. “He's chugging along,” she told AJ. "It’s a family experience that we are dealing the best we can with… Everyone’s got their stuff. Another bump in the road and we're all doing the best that we can with it. I am confident he is in the best hands and receiving the best of what’s being offered for his situation.”
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Noise-shaped air coming out of her face hole, as usual.
She is completely void of emotion, with more warmth talking about her dogs than her son.
I'm starting to feel really worried about Colin and the fact that his mother is hiding him somewhere. There is absolutely zero indication that he is at a proper treatment facility.
I can not believe how long he's been gone, and think it highly possible that he will never come back to live at the compound.
Not as long as she's filming.
As for the cookbook those kids photo's were all over the book. The recipes were also named after them. Nothing about that cookbook was all Kate.
The only thing Kate did without the children was Dancing with the Stars and The Apprentice. But even then she was billed as the "Mom of 8" for both.
Leslie,
I agree with a lot of what you say, I just don't agree that Jon gave Kate the right to exploit his children in exchange for money (or not having to pay her money.)
Exactly Admin. Wait until the kids are of legal age and look over their trusts expenses for the past 15 years.
Kate admitted she stole money with "creative accounting" while going through the divorce. She admitted this at the time she went on The Today show and cried how she had a stack of bills she could not pay because Jon took money out of their bank account. Read below from an article I googled. This will jog some memories.
"For the first time, Kate also confirmed that earlier this year, she had taken $100,000 out of the account to prevent her husband from taking it.
“I removed it to keep it safe,” she told Vieira. “I had taken $100,000 and put it aside safely so I could buy my kids food if needed.”
"But, she added, she put the money back because the couple’s separation agreement forbids either of them from taking out money without the authorization of the other.
Bless Kate's heart; I truly feel sorry for her. She stole $100,000 just in case she needed to buy her kids some food if needed. This woman is freaking INSANE. By the way, Jon said that had eleven bank accounts during this time.
Admin (#79), and I also wonder if the kids will someday resent the things their mother spent the money they earned on. Not the usual kinds of extracurricular sports/classes kids do these days -- soccer, basketball, baseball, karate, robotics, coding, drawing, gymnastics, etc. -- but family vacations and Mom's cosmetic procedures. Maybe M&C are already at that level of awareness, which is why they've got so much power in the household.
Her language structure, thought process, broken thoughts, off the tracks insanity
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So you understand what she is saying???
I think if you accept the fact that a judge would have had to agree no support is in the kids' best interest, then whatever Jon and Kate said among each other is kind of irrelevant, isn't it? They can cook up sweetheart deals all they want I suppose, but the bottom line is a judge has to decide what's best for the kids, not what's best for them. On another note, does anyone actually think they can talk long enough to negotiate a "deal"? Jon says they don't even talk at all!
As for the alarmist Supreme Court justices, there probably are going to be some conservative, anti-abortion judges put on the panel. Let's remember Roe v. Wade only passed 5-4. But I would reassure you that Trump is likely only going to be able to fill one or two slots in his tenure--most of the bench is "young" and isn't going anywhere. And any Republican president is going to seek to have conservatives on the bench for many other reasons besides abortion, so this is nothing new. Second, the Supreme Court doesn't just go through old opinions and decide, ok we're undoing that. That's not how it works. They need a case to be taken up to them. So someone would have to be denied an abortion by someone (where does that happen anymore?) and would have to take it up, and then the Supreme Court would have to accept the case and say that denial was okay. That process takes YEARS. I don't see that scenario even out there to be taken up. The case doesn't exist. Roe v. Wade happened because women were going to attorneys asking them to help them find a place to have an abortion and attorneys were telling them to give up the kid for adoption instead. In this day in age you don't need to even go to an attorney, you just look up your local Planned Parenthood which has locations in every state in the country and make an appointment. So how would we find this case to take up?? Gosh it's annoying the way such alarmist dire warnings are thrown out without explaining anything about how exactly such a case would even happen. Stop it.
Finally, the Supreme Court has been staffed by Republicans for years and years, but has never in its history undone something major that was moving society forward in a, subjectively I guess, "progressive" direction. When looking to predict the future one must look at the past, and the past suggests such a thing won't happen.
Roe v. Wade is not going anywhere, which is why that wasn't even a factor for me.
Interesting side note, the attorney who argued Roe v. Wade was 27 year old Sarah Weddington, the youngest man or woman to ever successfully argue a Supreme Court case. It's cool to listen to the recording of her arguments, she's so nervous! Kind of gives a young attorney a shot in the arm to not worry so much if you're nervous, you can still win.
Sad but true,
I don't know how Kate could pay herself as their caretaker. I don't see how that would fly.
I do think Kate pays herself for being their "manager." Just look at all the hard work it takes for her to exploit her kids. SHE has to come up with the brilliant ideas on how to entertain the masses with her children.
She has to come up with the "fun" activities they do for the show. It's not easy coming up with different ways to create meltdowns and fights among the siblings.
Botoxed face, weird hair, addicted to fame, speaks only in sentence fragments, lives in their own reality tv world....
There's more than one of them out there.
Noise-shaped air coming out of her face hole, as usual.
She is completely void of emotion, with more warmth talking about her dogs than her son.
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Seeing the whole quote in context is alarming. It almost sounds like she's talking about the family business venture. Their frozen yogurt business that's been hitting some rough times. It's chugging along, we're all hanging in there, hopefully we'll be in the green at some point probably not this year though. Thankfully we have the best and brightest business minds helping us turn it around.
Wth! There is something very disconnected here.
Did anyone see the video of the teacher who took away the microphone from a 6 YEAR OLD BOY who was the TURKEY in a class play?
The little boy was last in line waiting to say his line, Gobble, Gooble, when this thing called a teacher stood up as soon as the next to last boy was saying Thank you, then she turned her body to the side and looked straight ahead and then with her hand JERKED very hard while grabbing the mic, not even looking at the child who was MILDLY AUTISTIC who was trying to say his line!
When the beast completely ignored him and turned you can catch her grinning, like, Hey, I got away with it! You can hear the sadness of the mom of the little boy say, Why did she do that for?
The little boy was trying to say Gooble, but broke down and cried. Then you can tell the teacher realized people were getting angry and she was hurriedly getting the children who were in line in front of the stage out of there.
You can clearly see the side of her face of, OH, **** moment.
What was sickening was the old man principal interview saying that she didn't see him! Old man, she did it on purpose. You ought to see the comments on youtube.
One of the funniest is someone said, when she is bent over she looks like a busted can of Pillsbury canned biscuits! GOOD ONE!
If she couldn't see that kid, even with her peripheral vision, she is blind as a freaking bat. When she took the mic, he was about a foot away from her.
Admin. did my post about the creative accounting come through? Thanks
I have always had the bad feeling that poor Colin got sick of Kate beating him, and finally lost it one day, and smacked her back. If that is the case, she will never have him back in her home again I am thinking. That poor poor boy.
I wonder if K8 will undertake the "traditional" (LOL) tweet party this time around. Are there many people left out there who care if they're followed by Katie Irene? She's already got all her regulars on the list.
The Busbys did some sort of "live on Facebook" gig, but I doubt TLC would want Kate doing that.
CC said... 92
Sad but true,
I don't know how Kate could pay herself as their caretaker. I don't see how that would fly.
I do think Kate pays herself for being their "manager."
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You're right, I'm sure that's how she's listed in her payroll statements. And she told us five years ago that Steve was her "road manager," so there'll be that line item as well. Quite a cozy little set-up.
I doubt she does much thinking about their activities (after all, Figure 8 pays writers to do that), although some are so stupid you just know they originated in Goldilocks's weave.
CC (#92), yes, exploiting her kids has been TFW's full-time job for a decade. And that job title has come with plenty of benefits.
As far as TFW coming up with "fun" ideas (snort!), you better believe it wasn't her idea to build an igloo. Spending time outdoors? In the cold? With her kids -- including the dirty, icky BOYS?
I wonder if the other kids worry about being sent away if they don't toe the line. As a parent I don't understand Jon just standing idly by and doing nothing. He can take this to court but doesn't. There must be a lot to this story that will eventually come out. In 2 or 3 years when the oldest 2 go off to college there will be big changes in that house.
CC, I give up trying to figure out what deal or no deal Kate and Jon may have done. Nobody knows for sure. I was confused my some of your points but like I said the confusion may be on my side. Or more than likely we are all confused because the situation is just plain confusing and nobody really knows what happened with the child support. We are all just speculating in the end when it comes to that subject.
But I think we all agree on this website TLC has always supported these kids. PERIOD!
Thanks for posting that Yahoo article. I never saw it and really enjoyed reading it. It seems Jon is doing great and has found a career that pays him well and that he really enjoys. And more importantly, it lends itself to him seeing his kids. I am glad Jon finally caught a break. I disagree with Jon in some areas but overall I admire him because of the utter hell Kate has put him through. And she made it so public to boot. His sweet, laid back personality is what the kids need in their life... so opposite of their controlling Mother's.
Interesting...just looked at the lineup on my cable station for a TLC between now and Tuesday and there is not one showing of any of TFW's shows til the 10 year reunion one at 10 pm on Tuesday night....hmmmm. Me thinks this is Hail Mary and if her ratings are low, she's toast.
NJ said... 90
Her language structure, thought process, broken thoughts, off the tracks insanity
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So you understand what she is saying???
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LOL!!! I understand she is a horribly, stunted just turn teen that can't keep up with her peer age group.
CC said...92, I need to borrow your phrase,
fractured sentences for my post! LOL!
I'm not sure that TLC arranged this press junket for Kate. She might have done it herself. As we have all noticed, TLC is not really promoting K+8. The Today Show is firmly in TLC's pocket, yet she's not going to be on. Many of these shows, even though they don't pay for interviews, will pay to transportation to/from NYC and a night in a hotel. I'm sure she's taking full advantage is the situation--a whole weekend away from the kids, with Deanna and Steve.
She has got to be worried about the show. I have never seen such poor promotion for a show--ever. The few glimpses you do see are awful. Kate screaming at the kids during a game, screaming at the kids in a canoe, screaming at the kids about the puppies, screaming at the kids about waffles, calling the kids "suckers" during some archery thing, Mady saying Kate is insane, the little girls saying nobody wants to play with Mommy. The new, improved Kate is gone (if she ever existed), and TLC is showing her at her ugly worst.
There is a definite change--I think she made someone at TLC mad. She's no longer even a side piece. It seems a lot like the RV episodes--like TLC is saying, "See what we have to deal with? She's horrible!" Kate is being unmasked yet again.
I'm not confused about the child support issue.
I'm confused about the "custody" issue. How Kate does whatever she wants with the kids whenever she wants.
How Jon isn't getting all of the children on his custody days and how Kate can just decide not to send them when he has them for the holidays, etc.
I realize it costs Jon money whenever he does to court. But how does he not have an option to have his custody time enforced without having to pay money makes no sense to me.
I do believe Jon WANTS to see all of his children. I'm just confused on how he allows Mady and Cara to just decide they don't want to visit him on such a regular basis. Once in a while I get because they might have stuff they want to do with friends and he gives in to that. But a regular basis? I don't understand it.
As for Kate pushing her limits I can see that. Kate thinks she is beyond the law until someone puts her in her place. But when?
My hope is the children find out the truth one day. They are entitled to that. I also hope they understand it. They only see the one side and it may take them years to come to the realization that their dad wasn't the bad guy in this.
Obama is such a good father. He said this to his daughters when they were upset about the election:
"You don’t get into a fetal position about it. You don’t start worrying about apocalypse. You say, O.K., where are the places where I can push to keep it moving forward.”
Well said.
Leslie said...
But I think we all agree on this website TLC has always supported these kids. PERIOD!
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I understand what you're saying but I don't agree with this. The kids have supported themselves. TLC hasn't supported them. The children have WORKED since infancy.
When you work for an employer they don't support you financially. You are supporting yourself. Know what I mean?
Leslie (88)
I remember that. I wonder if that is the same $100K Jon found hidden in the house. She had taken it and hidden it, and when Jon found it, someone involved in divorce arbitration ordered her to give Jon half the money since half of it was his. She said she gave him half and didn't know what he did with it, but she used her half to pay bills (because she's a poor, struggling mom-of-8 with a purse full of bills). In that case, she did not willingly put anything back or even willingly split it with Jon.
It's like when she went on TV to say that Jon "took $230,000 of the $231,000" of the money they had in the bank (or, as she said, "That we had in that account"). Very specific amount, right? But the truth was, she took some of that money herself. But nobody called her out on the lie. She was untouchable. Disgusting.
The few glimpses you do see are awful. Kate screaming at the kids during a game, screaming at the kids in a canoe, screaming at the kids about the puppies, screaming at the kids about waffles, calling the kids "suckers" during some archery thing, Mady saying Kate is insane, the little girls saying nobody wants to play with Mommy.
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She looks unhinged in the preview.
How do you speed when it's against the law? People speed because they can, because no one stops them unless a cop happens to be around and chances are a cop is not around.
If no one tells Kate she can't do what she's doing, she'll keep doing it. That really goes back to Jon.
How Jon isn't getting all of the children on his custody days and how Kate can just decide not to send them when he has them for the holidays, etc.
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According to Kate, she doesn't care if the kids choose not to see Jon. That's really good for them, apparently.
I think the truth is that Kate relishes the breakdown of Jon's relationship with his children. The fact that she's never, not once, said it makes her sad, it very telling.
foxy said... 101
I wonder if the other kids worry about being sent away if they don't toe the line.
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This is an interesting question. On the one hand, having seen how she was with Collin, you might expect fear. The boys probably feel that way to some extent. I don't think the twins are particularly afraid of her anymore, at least not on their own account; they probably worry more about what she might do to one of the younger kids.
On the other hand, look at how crazy she went to get Hannah back. And Hannah knows why---it wasn't about her, per se, it was about The Show. I think this probably made Hannah realize that she does have some power in this situation. After all, if the general public hears even one more thing about a kid wanting to leave her house (one about whom we haven't been properly prepped with respect to his/her "issues" by People magazine), she's not only toast, she'll have people baying for blood.
I think she's walking a tightrope these days with respect to the kids. Another reason why Steve is no doubt still hanging around---to ensure that she can scream at him when she's in one of her moods and not take a swing at one of the children. I guess he's earning that paycheck.
The Electoral College is antiquated and gives disproportionate weight to the voters in specific regions of the country.
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Noooo, that's what the popular vote would do. The popular vote would make the election solely about the cities. The cities would win, every time. The question for you is why do you think rural America should be completely shut out from our elections?
It's nonsense that a Hispanic voter in Los Angeles was not counted. In fact, that person's vote counted FIFTY-FIVE electoral college votes. That's astounding! What more do you want?? How is that "unfair"? And why are you assuming Hispanics don't want Trump? In fact an overwhelming number of Hispanics voted for Trump, it was by no means a blowout for that ethnic group.
The electoral college requires coalitions from a board spectrum of America--cities, rural, north, south, east, west, central, all different ethnicities. The system is brilliant, fair, and just. Stop whining and figure out how to win it four years from now. Trump said it best, I would have campaigned very, very differently if you simply wanted me to win the most votes.
Nice try, Kate, but we know you're in NYC. "Missed his family"? Was he being boarded or groomed?
kateplusmy8 I'm a little Shoka, short and cute🎶..
Just back from the groomer! I missed my family and my deck!:) #Mak
Sad but true said... 115
Nice try, Kate, but we know you're in NYC. "Missed his family"? Was he being boarded or groomed?
kateplusmy8 I'm a little Shoka, short and cute🎶..
Just back from the groomer! I missed my family and my deck!:) #Mak
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How juvenile.
Hope a tabloid calls Steve's room and you answer the phone.
Who is this? Exxxxxxxcccccuuuusssse me?
kateplusmy8 I'm a little Shoka, short and cute🎶..
Just back from the groomer! I missed my family and my deck!:) #Mak
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Can you imagine how Colin feels?
She is sick. I'm sure the dog was just chugging along just fine, yet she's projecting that he misses his family after being away for a couple hours, not several months.
Amen. I woke up to see the cast of Hamilton lecturing the VP-elect from the stage, and this is EXACTLY why we need the electoral college.
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Unbelievably uncouth. His NIECE AND NEPHEW were with him. Good Lord. Free speech is free speech but it seems much more appropriate for Miranda to post such a sentiment on his web site or FB page, rather than ambush a man on his day off with his family. The audience's reaction was even worse. Completely lost all respect and he does owe him an apology.
I'm a little Shoka, short and stout,
Spider bought me and kicked Collin out,
The rain will come down and wash the spider out,
And the itsy-bitty spider won't have no more clout!
I'm watching the 20/20 Gretchen Carlson interview from last night.
There was a commercial for GMA and TFW's interview.
The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world?
Maybe she will end up ending her own 'career'.
"Winsomeone said... 97
I have always had the bad feeling that poor Colin got sick of Kate beating him, and finally lost it one day, and smacked her back. If that is the case, she will never have him back in her home again I am thinking. That poor poor boy."
Hello, Winsomeone...I have had the very same
feeling about Colin, and this feeling comes from
personal 70+ years old experience.
There comes a time in a child's life when he/she
simply can not bear another beating/screaming/
humiliating moment of a mother's free-for-all
capability of "mothering". There are children who
crack. Totally crack. It's not a reaction of
winning or anything which has to do with child-
batters-crazy-mother. It's the moment that a child
can and does retaliate. The reaction seems to come
from out of nowhere. I know.
A mother like Kate is a living nightmare and there
is no getting away from that, because if Colin is
"locked away" in either a foster home or a facility,
will anyone listen to him screaming for release
from his life? Will anyone save him from himself?
I'm one of this blog's avid readers who feels so
sad for Colin. A wussy daddy doesn't make the
situation anymore bearable.
Hang on, Little Fella......Somehow you'll
be free to think straight and to live the very
best you were created to be.
westcoastie (120)
Wow, so maybe GMA isn't going with the normal "softball" interview. Wouldn't that be a refreshing change? Let's hope the interviewer doesn't just accept one of Kate's non-answers. Make her sweat! The only time anyone has ever come anywhere close to pinning her down was when Bethenny Frankel asked where all the money from the show went, but she let Kate get away with some drivel about how she uses coupons and they don't wear top brands because those things aren't important. Why not give a real answer? Why didn't Bethenny pin her down and demand a real answer? What a bunch of wimps.
That question ("…and Jon's in that world?") makes me even more convinced that TLC didn't set this press tour up for her. They would have screened all questions beforehand. I think she was on her own this time.
Ok am I the only one scared for Collin right now? Something feels insanely wrong with the whole situation. It gives me chills. I get this idea that the truth is very sinister. I am so scared that C fell between the cracks and there's no one there watching out for his best interest. My thoughts and well wishes go out to him today. I hope he is safe. Someone needs to do something about this.
The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world?
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I wonder how Kate can spin the fact that the boy's own father doesn't know where he is in any way palatable, and not batshit crazy.
Unless Jon is some sort of threat to Colin, she is a crazy, revenge-driven control freak.
The fact that she takes pride in hiding him is frightening.
The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesn't
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I'm speechless. Her reaction to what's going on with him is just downright bizarre. Why is this something to trot around like this, and what's more, to use it to further your own ego. "I know something you don't know" type thing, like you're 12. So WEIRD.
It's like, "look what I got away with and pulled right in front of all of you".
“He’s chugging along,” she told Extra of his away-from-home treatment. “It’s a family experience that we are dealing the best we can with… Everyone’s got their stuff.”
“Another bump in the road and we’re all doing the best that we can with it,” she added. “I am confident he is in the best hands and receiving the best of what’s being offered for his situation.”
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“It’s kind of humbling when as a mom you have to admit that, ‘I am not enough for what you need,'” she explained. “That’s kind of what I struggle with, but we’re moving on. In life, it’s more about how you deal with the situation than the situation you were dealt.”
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Yeah, Colin's chugging along. We're over it. Now, can we talk more about ME and how this affects ME?
GollyGee, there's another story to that video, apparently the parents of the 6 year old boy didn't sign the permission slip and didn't bring him for rehersals but he was allowed to be in the play last minute, so as to not leave him out. There was no turkey part, apparently. The kid is wearing a Native American costume collar pulled over his head. I think the teacher should have let him be and maybe given him the mic back, if indeed she took it by mistake but that said, the witchhunt is getting out of control. The poor woman is probably hiding. She did not hit this kid, she did not yell, she did not shove,she did not even snatched the mic from his hand. She took the mic at the end of the performance. She is being crucified over this and the parents are not even telling the whole story. If you read the description of the YT video the boy's mother made she says "So what if he wanted to say gobble gobble" basically admitting he did not have a line. The media has distorted the story, in my opinion.
I am so scared that C fell between the cracks and there's no one there watching out for his best interest. My thoughts and well wishes go out to him today. I hope he is safe.
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Someone is looking out for him because they started a CPS investigation into TFW's treatment of him. The institution obviously has at least one mandated reporter on staff to document his statements and make the call, but whether anything came of it is something completely different.
Is that a new ring TFW is wearing on her right hand in the pics of her visit to GMA? She's still wearing the multi-band, multi-stone ring on her left hand.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago
Nice 2get update on Collin. Small persistent steps of progress is good news! Prayers 4U all! http://extratv.com/2016/11/18/kate-gosselin-gives-update-on-son-after-sending-him-away-months-ago/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter … … @kateplusmy8
"Small persistent steps"? Where'd you hear that? Cuz it wasn't in that interview. Doofus rides again. If Kate isn't getting it quite right, she'll just put the words right into her mouth.
Yeah, Colin's chugging along. We're over it. Now, can we talk more about ME and how this affects ME?
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That was pretty glaring to me also how quickly she turned the interview around from Collin to how she was the one affected. She's a disturbed person and is the one who should be in an institution getting help and learning how to cope.
miloandjack2016 If you had not said that WAS #Mak...I would easily identified this pic as #Shoka! Like father...like son for sure. Are you seeing the same temperament in #Mak like his daddy...#CalmEasygoing?? @kateplusmy8
kateplusmy8 Yep! Such a love! Easy peasy personality. Sweet and kind as pie! And so much like Shoka, he even shares his dislike of riding in the car 😡 @miloandjack2016
mydmaxx2581@kateplusmy8 @miloandjack2016 I thought the same thing....it was Shoka....like father like son. Such beautiful dogs Kate. 😄
miloandjack2016 Well you got another gem of a dog then!! So Im assuming #MissNanuq is like my girl...the lil rabble rouser? #MissK. 😋 #GirlsRule. LOL. @kateplusmy8
westcoastie said... 120
I'm watching the 20/20 Gretchen Carlson interview from last night.
There was a commercial for GMA and TFW's interview.
The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world?
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And WTF does that mean? She's known "all along"? Didn't she participate in sending him where he went? Didn't some professionals have some involvement in this? Do THEY not even know where he is? Is she saying she took the decision all on her own? Yeah, I hope she gets nailed by that comment. She's really letting her inner psycho out now.
Interesting that they're apparently not going to have her sitting on the set on Monday like they usually do. I guess she might in fact be home since they decided to tape her. Of course taping means they're able to edit. I wonder if she/TLC have approval before it airs.
This is why people so dislike/distrust the media. It's all just one big mutual promotion now, no actual truth in reporting.
"Small persistent steps"? Where'd you hear that? Cuz it wasn't in that interview. Doofus rides again. If Kate isn't getting it quite right, she'll just put the words right into her mouth.
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That's how Milo translates "chugging along" = "small persistent steps."
Neither of those statements makes any sense whatsoever.
"Small persistent steps"? Where'd you hear that? Cuz it wasn't in that interview. Doofus rides again. If Kate isn't getting it quite right, she'll just put the words right into her mouth.
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Milo really missed her calling. She should find a job in the media because she's doing exactly what they do. She takes a sound bite and twists it into whatever she wants the narrative to be. Some believe her, just like they believe the media and some know what's really going on and don't believe what they're trying to sell.
SMH, I wonder if the crumbs TFW throws her are enough to satisfy her or if she's doing it in hope of finally getting the attention she wants. OR, is the attention she gets from the interaction w/fans and haterz on TFW's twitter and IG enough to satisfy her? lol Either way, what a sad, pitiful pastime she has defending a child abusing reality tv has-been.
Someone just posted the clip of the GMA interview on Twitter. Hey Kate! Where's the tan? Where's the lipstick? The shiny, sexy clothes? Someone's clearly trying to make her look like she's just sick about the whole situation. She's not a good enough actress to pull that off, so they've had to dress her down and wash her out, complete with flat, greasy-looking hair. Despicable manipulation.
The little snippet of the GMA interview looks like Amy is WTF? when interviewing Kate.
"How DO you live with no regrets?"
Without a conscience, that's how.
westcoastie said... 120
I'm watching the 20/20 Gretchen Carlson interview from last night.
There was a commercial for GMA and TFW's interview.
The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world?
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GMA tweeted a preview. I guess it's the same one that you saw.
https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/800101069254782976?
One thing I've noticed that when Kate posted about the show returning(both of twitter and Instagram) she didn't mention TLC at all. Kate always included @TLC in her tweets about the show, and now she's not even mentioning them at all.
I find that odd. Even Milo, in the few reminders she's posted on twitter, only uses #TLC not @TLC.
I don't expect the ratings to be good, especially because of the timing of the shows' airing. Last year, the three shows that aired in December before Christmas, were all below 1 million viewers. This year, the shows start 2 weeks earlier during Thanksgiving week, so 5 of the 8 shows will air in the weeks before Christmas.
Maybe TLC thinks that airing them when the prime time shows are on hiatus for the holidays will bring in more viewers, but that didn't work out for them last year.
LOL! Wonder if this gets corrected.
Follow
Good Morning America Verified account
@GMA
MONDAY ON @GMA: @arobach one-on-one with Kate Gosselin of "Jon & Kate Plus 8."
Amy Robach gets the pleasure of interviewing the witch. AR has been through breast cancer and survived, and I hope she can see through Kate's nonsense. I wonder if Kate has a tissue for the poke and dab.
"That photo is during the Gosselin Memory Game, where Kate sets up a contest to see how well the kids can remember the TLC-edited version of their lives. I'm sure points are lost when you remember something that was supposed to have been suppressed."
Lose ten points if they mention Beth and the grandparents. Lose twenty points if they mention Aunt Jodie. Lose infinite points if they mention Jon in a nice way. Gain a billion points if they make Mommy look good.
I just noticed that on GMA's tweet they called her Kate Gosselin "from Jon & Kate plus 8". Kate must love that!!!
Good Morning America
@GMA
MONDAY ON @GMA: @arobach one-on-one with Kate Gosselin of "Jon & Kate Plus 8."
Kate is a twit said... 139
westcoastie said... 120
I'm watching the 20/20 Gretchen Carlson interview from last night.
There was a commercial for GMA and TFW's interview.
The smugness that oozes out of her when she says she has known all along where Colin is but the world doesnt.....and the interviewer asks ...and Jon's in that world?
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GMA tweeted a preview. I guess it's the same one that you saw.
https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/800101069254782976?
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So it's a taped interview which means she's probably not in the city. She's such an unhappy person, despite her happy, happy, rainbows and puppies IG posts.
I noticed her face was red in part of that clip. Pretty sure she was NOT happy with the line of questioning and trying to hold in some rage. She had the same look when Bethenny Frankel asked her where all her money was.
Jbranck1980
So it's a taped interview which means she's probably not in the city. She's such an unhappy person, despite her happy, happy, rainbows and puppies IG posts.
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She was in the city yesterday, because she did the Extra interview there. She probably taped the GMA interview sometime before or after.
She could still be in the city. Just because she posted a picture of Mak on IG today, doesn't mean that the picture was taken today.
She was in the city yesterday, because she did the Extra interview there. She probably taped the GMA interview sometime before or after.
She could still be in the city. Just because she posted a picture of Mak on IG today, doesn't mean that the picture was taken today.
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Hard to imagine GMA or anyone, really, picking up the tab for her and Steve these days. But maybe there's more TV to come.
Either way, what a sad, pitiful pastime she has defending a child abusing reality tv has-been.
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The strange thing is that she does't want to meet her. She tweeted that she's happy with the status quo, but you just know that she'd like to be in her bed, giving her a foot message, or whatever other body part needs rubbing.
On BV Files, who or what is Deric Lostutter?
I appear to be very much out of the loop when it comes to McGiblets.
KIAT (140)
You're right, neither Kate nor Milo is tagging TLC. Normally Kate wants them to see what a good employee she is, plugging the show, and Milo always follows Kate's lead. What changed? There is something going on behind the scenes, for sure. TLC is not promoting K+8 (at least, not much), Kate is not tagging them. If she wants to continue to film for them, you'd think she'd be trying to please them. TLC spent the money to film all these episodes. You'd think they would want to see good ratings come out of it. But it seems like they want the show to fail…maybe so they can dump her once and for all? Ae they sick of her attitude again? If so, then they were stupid to ever think she had changed. She was on her best behavior for awhile because she wanted back on TV. Once she became comfortable, the real Kate came roaring back. Leopards don't change their spots.
Kate's red face...
When she's nervous or anxious about something or about to tell a whopper, her cheeks seem to get hot red, and flushed, and she breaks out in red spots on her neck, but it's not really hives. I've seen it happen. She can't control it.
Assuming this wasn't clever editing, Kate NODS in response to the statement from the reporter that Jon doesn't know where Colin is.
WTF!!! So she ADMITS she's kept him in the dark?? WOW.
You know, in talking about people being "emboldened" these past few weeks (B.S.), I'll tell you what real emboldened is, and that's her. She keeps pushing the envelope more and more because no one stops her. She's so obviously unhinged at this point but no one is telling her "no."
PA Dutch Mom said... 151
Did you watch the GMA clip? What do you make of her demeanor? She really looks psychopathic to me when she's discussing Collin like he's some object she's hidden away.
Am I the only one that finds Kates statement, her knowing where Collin is but the world doesn't, kinda scary? I feel like I should be taking a shovel to the compound!! No kidding that gave me chills!
Sherry Baby said... 149
Deric Lostutter just pled guilty to federal charges of hacking and other online crimes. He was being paid for at least a year by McGibney; at first he claimed he was hired to provide security for McG's websites, but he later confessed to hacking and online stalking of Mr. BV's various victims. He first became famous as KYAnonymous on Twitter when he involved himself in the Steubenville rape case (I believe that's how he came to McG's attention). So besides all the other court actions McG has been involved in over the last 40 months, it is conjectured that Lostutter's confession will to result in some new case(s) being filed against McG, very possibly by the Feds.
It sounds like Kate placed Colin in an institution for children who are a threat to others and himself, like a hospital or something. It is so upsetting for that kid that I can't think of the correct words. I just hope he is somewhere safe right now. Odd that Kate never says she visits or is in constant contact with his caregivers at this point.
Those kids will be teenagers in 5 months or so. They are not mature at all for their age.
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