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Kate's interview with Extra will be aired tonight.
ExtraTV Verified account @extratv · 3m3 minutes ago
Tonight on #ExtraTV: @Kateplusmy8 is opening up about her kids, dating and returning to TV for #KatePlus8!
referrals on her? Huh??? Does she understand the vast majority of celebrities go through life raising their children without any referrals ever called in? I know because they come through my court.
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No, you don't "know" because cases that are evaluated out would never come through "your" court
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You're right. I should have said our "system." I know several attorneys and workers who have worked in our "sensitive cases" unit where celeb cases go or any cases where we want to be especially careful to keep things away from the press, such as you work for a politician or something.
And no, we don't get a whole heck of a lot of celeb referrals. They are no more or less than the average family. No one is out to "get" celebs by filing false reports. Most people understand you can get sued for that. Get sued for every last dollar. Read Jill Jones v. Claudia Wang and watch what happens when mandatory reporters start to lie to innocent parents about abuse. They get the ever loving pants sued off them.
Sad but true (#197), the number one, sure fire way of respecting C's privacy would've been to turn down these interviews, turn down the People cover, and turn down the new episodes in which his absence will be conspicuous. TFW doesn't know the meaning of the word respect. She is a horrible mother.
You know, she offers up her non-communication with Jon as proof she has "moved on". That's not moving on. That's revenge and spite. Being friendly with your ex is moving on.
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Bingo. It's the polar opposite of moving on. She is very much stuck in the past.
Moving on as an adult does not mean pretending people are dead.
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Totally agree. Jon's not an old finace she broke up with and then went on to marry and have kids with someone else. There's no reason to keep in touch with that person. But the fact is she had kids with Jon, and he has a legal right to be in their lives, and so therefore, he's going to be in your life. Grow up, get yourself on one of the family law apps for communicating, and start talking to him. Do it for your kids.
Well, hey now, are we havin' a Tweet Party or not?! C'mon, Milo, go ahead and ask K8 if #K8Plus7 #PremiereNight #TweetParty is on! I double-dog dare ya. :)
Admin (#5), all her blather about going to the ends of the earth to help her kids is bull, because the thing that would help them most is for her to simply co-parent with their father. But she'd have to swallow some pride, and she's just not interested.
CC said... 200
Yes Jon was on tv last week. He ended it with he's calling a lawyer. So they must have gotten the gag order after the interview.
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That's what I'm hoping happened.
Ok so Kate claims she's not worried about Jon's claims that he's going to get a lawyer and take her to court and doesn't pay attention to him blah blah blah.
Yet in the same interview she says she's now under gag order. So obviously Jon DID follow up on his threat to get his lawyer and Kate now can't speak about Collin's whereabouts. She did that big People interview about Collin and never mentioned a gag order.
Well, finally, one of the tabs is "using their words" and calling it like it is.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/videos/kate-gosselin-shades-jon-i-dont-pay-attention-to-his-s-t/
Kate Gosselin says, in a new interview with Good Morning America today, that she's lost track of how many times she's been investigated.
For child abuse, that is. It's that frequent an occurrence.
Ditto how often Jon has threatened to take her to court.
In a candid interview with Amy Robach, Kate was asked if her troubled son Collin really told staff at his treatment center that she was abusive.
“I’m in the public eye. I’ve been investigated many times,” Kate responded, calling the claims “unfounded” and implying media sensationalism.
Uncovered diary entries from her early days as a mom of eight show that Kate abused Collin and on more than one occasion, however.
Collin is now being treated for “special needs.”
“He’s plodding along,” she said, adding that in spite of what her ex says, “I’ll go to the ends of the earth for the best for each one of them.”
Or, if you believe her ex, hiding them away.
Jon & Kate Plus H8
Jon claims Kate is holding Collin hostage, for all intents and purposes, and won't tell him where their kid is, so he's taking her to court.
Kate says she’s not worried by his legal threats, sighing that she's heard it all before, to the point where it barely even registers now:
“I’ve lost track of how many times he’s said that."
“I don’t really pay attention, to be honest.”
Collin had been living in the “pre-adolescent unit” at a facility outside Philadelphia, two hours from her suburban Pennsylvania home.
She won't say whether he's still there or somewhere else now, though, citing a court order and slyly grinning as she will "leave it at that."
Loving the adjectives! I hope this spurs the long, slow, and very painful decline of the sociopathic polymorph known as K8.
WTF is she TALKING about? NO ONE used the terms "small steps." Is this something she got from that speshul communicatin' she does with K8? Hope whatever that is didn't/doesn't violate the custody order.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1m1 minute ago
No mom ever wants to walk this difficult path. Reality narrows options. Slow/small steps is STILL PROGRESS! #RemainHopeful @Kateplusmy8
All of us at GWOP and RWA called this back in 2007. Kate throws EVERYONE under the bus. Always has.
Her parents, her siblings, her husband, and now her child. It was inevitable. We were all screaming that the kids would be the next ones under that bus.
Many thought we were alarmists. Told us we just didn't understand Kate. Oh yes we did. If you don't know 'How to help her' you are toast.
Nobody knows how to help her. Mere mortals (her children) have been trying for years. They will all let her down in some way & and be discarded once they are of no use to her.
I barely escaped BV by the skin of my teeth. I had grown weary of writing to advertisers & worrying about those kids. I was the main tormentor of Baby Mama. Ha! Remember her? Old LindaOriginal actually called the police on me. (the police told her to call the internet police & to quit bugging them)
Now it's 10 years later, the kids' personalities are formed & Kate is still writing the script.
She HAD those kids to become famous! Her letters to Bobbie McConaughey, Jon's old website (now scrubbed) explaining to people how to not pay taxes on gifts & trips. Their wish list & love offerings at all of the churches.
Kate came to my town for one of the Womens Festival thingies & I called her out while she was up on stage. I told her she was a terrible mother, a narcissist, and that she was not fit to have kids.
I've been on that bus of Kate Haterz for a very long time and one of these days that bus will drive right over her. It will probably be one of the kids who will be driving it! (IMHO)
Like it or not, the only thing that will ever stop Kate's reign of terror is ratings. If ratings are low enough, the show will end and she won't have TLC (and TLC's money) to cover for her. Why should she give one flying flip about abuse reports, court orders, or anyone's rights or feelings but her own? She gets attention from the press, she gets to play martyr, and she gets attention and money. All the bad behavior is being rewarded and therefore reinforced.
I will not be watching.
Sad but true (#11), Gladys should be resting her tweetin fingers for tomorrow night, because I think she's going to have a lot of defending to do.
Like her beloved, Gladys is in a world of her own. I defy her to name one of the "small/slow steps" she claims C has made.
#K8sBack#Puppies&Fun#CWho?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3957750/Kate-Gosselin-smiles-revealing-refuses-tell-ex-husband-special-needs-facility-sent-son-Collin-Jon-claims-not-seen-boy-TWO-years.html
"Kate Gosselin smiles while revealing that she refuses to tell her ex-husband what 'special needs' facility she sent their son Collin to, after Jon claims he has not seen the boy in TWO years
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3957750/Kate-Gosselin-smiles-revealing-refuses-tell-ex-husband-special-needs-facility-sent-son-Collin-Jon-claims-not-seen-boy-TWO-years."
just wondering said... 12
Kate came to my town for one of the Women's Festival thingies & I called her out while she was up on stage. I told her she was a terrible mother, a narcissist, and that she was not fit to have kids.
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My hero!! LOL. I have fantasized about what I would say to her if I ever saw her.
What was her response? What was the audience's response?
“He’s plodding along,” she said, adding that in spite of what her ex says, “I’ll go to the ends of the earth for the best for each one of them.”
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Right after she goes back to nursing and working at McDonald's.
The comments on the Daily Mail article are brutal. People are disgusted with how gleefully she talks about being the only one who knows Colin's location. She really is a cold hearted woman.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3957750/Kate-Gosselin-smiles-revealing-refuses-tell-ex-husband-special-needs-facility-sent-son-Collin-Jon-claims-not-seen-boy-TWO-years.html#comments
So it looks like I was wrong about TFW crying for the cameras. I guess she was so busy with her snotty eff you to Jon -- not telling him where his son is -- that she forgot to poke and dab.
http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/1129981/jon-and-kate-gosselin-argue-over-son-collin?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
During her interview, Kate would only say that Collin is "in a special school for special-needs kids with behavioral problems."
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Does anyone remember if she mentioned behavioral problems before? When she announced it to the world, she mentioned "special needs" and we speculated it might be psychiatric or behavioral such as an alternative school but had she admitted it before?
From the Daily Mail piece (thanks, localyocul):
"When asked to reflect back on how she has changed as a person in the past decade, Kate told Robach she has become a different person since the show launched, and a better mother.
'I almost don't even know her,' Kate said of her younger self.
'Now it's like, the wisdom, the experience, it makes you really a better parent.'
And while she had to endure a very public divorce, and numerous feuds with her ex-husband that were played out in the tabloids, Kate said she would not change a thing.
'I wanted those moments documented, and I got ten years worth. And I will never ever regret that,' said Kate."
Does it sound like she knows she's being cancelled? "I got ten years worth"? I wonder if TLC's already pulled her plug.
reader said... 86
"Jon said that Kate, his ex-wife, won't answer his texts asking for specifics. He said that while Kate "says that Collin is in a special school for special needs kids with behavioral problems," law enforcement officials have told him otherwise." - Pennlive
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Pennlive, Daily Mail, how many other tabloids are either wrong or Jon's lawyer is lying.
I'm convinced that the kids do not know where Colin is and I bet they have not spoken to him since he left. At least not without Kate sitting right there on the phone, monitoring the conversation.
The only way to ensure that Jon doesn't find out where Colin is, is to keep the rest of the kids out of the loop.
Can you even imagine??
What was her response? What was the audience's response?
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She blathered on like she didn't hear me and old Rat Claws was coming for me. Everyone looked at me like I was crazy & there was gasping all around.
Steve began to grab my elbow & I told him not to touch me. This event was being held in Century Center in South Bend, Indiana and I was the event manager there for many years back in the 80's. I knew every tunnel in that facility. Fat chance he'd be able even find me.
Kate heard me. She looked right at me. This was right after some People interview about how she said the worst thing anyone could say about her was that she was a Bad Mom. So I decided to call her on it.
Several other women around me also started saying "Bad Mom" as Steve was approaching me & he was startled. He let go of me and began throwing looks to other women around me.
Some of this was on youtube for awhile but it was taken down within weeks.
Kate kept speaking as if nothing had happened, but everyone heard & I received a few 'atta girl's' when I left. This is a polite community & most of us come from families who settled here back in the early 1800's. Before South Bend even had a name.
I'd be damned if I was going to let her preach her lack of mothering skills in MY town without some interference.
I guess it's a good thing I didn't work there anymore because I would have been fired. I still would have done it, though.
Saw a pic of Kate from the GMA interview. My goodness she looks a lot older than 41. Its like her face is melting.
localyocul said... 20
I know she said something when she had to admit that Collin wouldn't be going back to LCDS. This was in the spring of 2014? I can't recall exactly, it's gotta be here in the archive somewhere.
'I wanted those moments documented, and I got ten years worth. And I will never ever regret that,' said Kate."
Does it sound like she knows she's being cancelled? "I got ten years worth"? I wonder if TLC's already pulled her plug.
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I've been saying it's my sneaking suspicion.
The scandals just keep growing. I can't believe TLC went through with filming, except perhaps that Kate was contracted for another season and shortly after filming began, Colin was gone.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4m4 minutes ago
#CloseCall #Blowout on
Interstate! By myself..had 2call Roadside Assist! Remembering ur ordeal.... Its late & I wanna go hm! @kateplusmy8
They really shouldn't let her out alone, am I right?
Kate heard me. She looked right at me. This was right after some People interview about how she said the worst thing anyone could say about her was that she was a Bad Mom. So I decided to call her on it.
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Oh snap. Times 8.
Turtle (AKA Amy2) said... 25
Saw a pic of Kate from the GMA interview. My goodness she looks a lot older than 41. Its like her face is melting.
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Looks like putty. Women start to get that look after so many botox and filler injections.
Funny, you can see the aging in her neck, and the disparity with the face is apparent now.
Is Kate going to be on an evening tabloid show tonight?
Just wondering,
Kudos to you! Haha, it cracks me up to think of how seriously Little Steve takes himself. I remember when Kate was presenting at the Baltimore Book Festival, Steve was standing off to the side, arms folded, trying so hard to look intimidating while he scanned the crowd. He looked like he expected someone to pull out a gun or something. And then standing in front of her table, stopping any of the unwashed masses
from approaching The Queen, who sat staring off into the distance.
Poor little thing, he has to wonder how is life became so pathetic. Didn't he once claim to have provided Security to presidents? And yet he ended up guarding Kate Gosselin from people who think she's a bad mom.
Did she mention again that the other kids are in counseling? Or was that just some BS she told People to make it sound like she gives a damn?
Tucker's Mom (#23), yes, the situation in the G household is an absolute trainwreck if C's siblings are in the dark about their brother's whereabouts. The tups were describe as a 6 pack since birth. Now, poof, one of them disappears, and TFW thinks a couple of new puppies will make everything okay? And she proudly says she wouldn't change a thing about the way they grew up?
Wow! Wish you would of whipped out a permit to protest at her talk that Stevie boy did not know was issued! You could of legally stood a few feet away and as loud as you could BAD MOM her away!
If she is called a bad mom that tarnishes her image and her money earning capability takes a hit.
Can't squash free speech, baby!
Tucker's Mom said... 31
Is Kate going to be on an evening tabloid show tonight?
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Someone said she would be on Extra
Does anyone remember if she mentioned behavioral problems before? When she announced it to the world, she mentioned "special needs" and we speculated it might be psychiatric or behavioral such as an alternative school but had she admitted it before?
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She discussed in the 11th birthday episode that aired June 30, 2015. ROL has an article about what she said.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-school-expulsion-scandal-reality-mom-confesses-son-collin-social-educational-problems/
From the article:
"During last night’s Kate Plus 8 special about the sextuplets’ 11th birthday bash, the mom of eight, 40, admitted Collin “has some educational and social challenges.”
“Definitely this year in terms of changes, Collin sticks out the most. It’s been a year of figuring out kind of where he’s going and how best to help him,” she told the cameras in a confessional interview.
“At times his inability to problem solve in a social setting leaves him frustrated and overwhelmed with the situation,” she continued. “We learned over time that often the best thing for him is to step away and process it and adapt, after which he typically rejoins and is fine.”
Kate insisted her son is “very intelligent,” and “artsy,” but requires a unique education that can address his special needs.
“This is a work in progress for him that we’ve sought many specialists help on,” she said. “There’s changes coming for him. I think it will result in a change of school for him for this upcoming year and beyond that, we’ll see.”
I remember we were all appalled that she would reveal that on national TV. Unfortunately, the comments on the discussion thread here for that episode seem to have disappeared.
Tucker's Mom said... 31
I think Extra is airing tonight? I don't know if that's a rerun, or a longer version of whatever they did last Friday. I confess, I didn't listen to that one, they had a pretty well-fleshed transcript online and that was enough for me.
So also think TLC has pulled the plug on the show. What other reason would they have to refuse to promote it? I bet you could count the number of ads they have aired for the show on one hand. This is not a mistake. Nobody forgot that the show is coming up. They just don't care. If TLC was at all interested in continuing the show, they would make some attempt to make the current season successful.
The clips we have seen of the upcoming season all show Kate at her worst. Just like when the dropped her before. The show premiers tomorrow. I have had ID on in the background all day. They are one of Discovery's channels, so they heavily promote TLC's shows. And they have all day long. Just not K+8. My DIL has been watching Say Yes To The Dress (she's hooked on that show!) and says there has not been a single K+8 promo.
I think they contracted for another season before the last season ended. They started filming immediately after. But I think they truly believed that the dating episode would be huge, and they could build a whole new show around Kate dating. And then it flopped. There is nowhere else for this show to go. Time to end it.
Tucker's Mom (#23), yes, the situation in the G household is an absolute trainwreck if C's siblings are in the dark about their brother's whereabouts. The tups were describe as a 6 pack since birth. Now, poof, one of them disappears, and TFW thinks a couple of new puppies will make everything okay? And she proudly says she wouldn't change a thing about the way they grew up?
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I wonder if they are afraid that if they misbehave that they will be sent away, too. What a terrible cloud to live under, carefully treading so that they aren't the next ones to go.
Poor little thing, he has to wonder how is life became so pathetic. Didn't he once claim to have provided Security to presidents? And yet he ended up guarding Kate Gosselin from people who think she's a bad mom.
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But remember he gets to cuddle with her at the Essex House. He's now Snuggle Bunny Steve! Such an honor!
They really shouldn't let her out alone, am I right?
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She shouldn't be let out at all, alone or otherwise!
Milo's having car problems and is tweeting to Kate about it.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 56m56 minutes ago
#CloseCall #Blowout on
Interstate! By myself..had 2call Roadside Assist! Remembering ur ordeal.... Its late & I wanna go hm! @kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 30m30 minutes ago
Im 45mi from hm. Hubs offered to come get me, but I don't want to leave my car. #AnOhWellMoment #Patience #CouldBeWorse LOL @Kateplusmy8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Nothing like sitting in a strange #TireStore at 7pm smelling rubber waiting for car to be fixed. #SoTired #WannaGoHome. 😞
Aw, poor Milo--she's looking for sympathy from Kate and Kate's not responding.
#PoorMilo#WantsToGoHome#KateWhereAreYou#INeedYou
A mother who lacked the ability and patience to raise a very bright and curious little boy. So she used force.
In that world people and things MUST submit. If you don't, you're banished, silenced.
Parents
Siblings
Friends
Husband
Employees
Volunteers
Nurses
Son
There is nowhere else for this show to go. Time to end it.
November 21, 2016 at 3:59 PM
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I also think, despite the criticism, that Jon's repeated appearances on tv and other media keeps the public aware of just how f*cked up the Gosselin saga has become.
There isn't enough lipstick at this point...
Sad but true said... 37
Tucker's Mom said... 31
I think Extra is airing tonight? I don't know if that's a rerun, or a longer version of whatever they did last Friday. I confess, I didn't listen to that one, they had a pretty well-fleshed transcript online and that was enough for me.
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It's coming up and they just showed a clip. This time she's all smiley and nonchalant about how humbling it is that as a mom she is not enough or his needs. OMG I can't believe her! First of all, no you are not enough because he has a dad. Second of all, you are the CAUSE of his problems IMO. Third, WHY ARE YOU SMILING ABOUT IT??
Just because nothing has been found YET to be abusive does not mean it does not exist. Most CPS workers are over worked w/ more cases than they can realistically investigate and manage.
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Very well said agree on all points and I think something else needs to be understood. People need to understand that not all child abuse is jurisdictional. In other words, just because the courts decline to get involved does not mean child abuse is not going on. Triumphantly declaring you have been evaluated out by CPS doesn't prove anything other than some bureaucrat decided there wasn't enough for a case. It is not a badge to wave around "I am not a child abuser." That's why it's totally kosher for me to bring up a family's string of unsubstantiated referrals when talking about a family history of abuse as it relates to whether there is a present risk.
The reality is our system is designed to protect kids in truly deplorable situations. Another reality is it is much "simpler" to find grave risk when concrete things are happening, like drugs or domestic violence, as opposed to the more emotional manipulative things that Kate does. I happen to think what she does is equally if not more damaging to children, but it's hard to pin down.
The court of appeal in California puts it this way. They want passing grades as parents. They won't get involved in the D and C parents no matter how much other people want them to. Only the F ones. The constitution protects parents as fiercely as it protects things like guns.
Much of what Kate does is a passing grade. A C minus, some D's. Enough to skate on by the system, but certainly not enough to avoid screwing these kids up for life. She is what I like to call in court, "marginal."
As for fans calling in the referrals, there's no evidence of that, mere speculation. And we know that at least this one was not called in by a fan, but by the service providers. So that's a moot point at this point.
Well, of course Gladys know where Collin is. His siblings don't know, his father doesn't know, but I'm sure Gladys knows his location, his daily schedule, visitation hours, and his therapy program.
Right, Gladys, you idiot?
And she said "chugging along" again. WTF does that even mean?
I've been saying it's my sneaking suspicion.
The scandals just keep growing. I can't believe TLC went through with filming, except perhaps that Kate was contracted for another season and shortly after filming began, Colin was gone.
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I wonder if the reason they keep her in contract and filming is because they've already tried the new and nicer Kate, and because there is nothing pleasant or redeeming about her, why not show how nasty she really is? It could be that they are betting on showing her really horrible side that this will bring in the rubber-necking viewers. The Kate they love to hate. It might work.
Steve began to grab my elbow & I told him not to touch me.
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How does he think he is. Ugh. How dare he touch you. Guarding his queen .....It's creepy and weird.
From 2011 child abuse in Pennsylvania
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2011/06/12/Child-abuse-in-Pennsylvania-is-worse-than-you-think/stories/201106120229
It could be that they are betting on showing her really horrible side that this will bring in the rubber-necking viewers. The Kate they love to hate. It might work.
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I think the "love to hate' thing stopped working when people truly just stopped caring.
Now, it's just pure apathy.
Tucker's Mom said... 52
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Now, it's just pure apathy.
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And disgust. There is now lots and lots of disgust.
I wonder what Dr. glass would have to say about TFW's body language on this morning's interview.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 30m30 minutes ago
Im 45mi from hm. Hubs offered to come get me, but I don't want to leave my car. #AnOhWellM
Does she have a strange relationship with her car? Maybe TLC would like to film that!
Kate's appearance. I rarely comment on it, but I've seen it with and without makeup. At one time she was fresh-faced, natural and pretty. Not stunningly gorgeous by any means, but attractive even without makeup. Now she looks better with the putty face. It's unbelievable what has happened to her face over the years. I wish Milo could see her without the spackle.
What the heck is Milo's problem now? Does she expect Kate to find her at the tire store and hold her hand or gland or whatever?
That is not the face of a mother devastated that her child had to be sent away. She is in her glory. Where are the fake tears Kate? TLC sure didn't give her any coaching on how these interviews should go.
She admits he is away for "behavioral problems". Those problems stem from somewhere..likely anger/dysfunction in the family. I don't understand how family therapy WITH him isn't a big part of his program.
If you scroll down more on the facebook posts even the comments on their are alot of negative as well.SMH I really wonder how her viewer count will be with all this negative feedback.I hope to God they don't watch. https://www.facebook.com/topic/Kate-Gosselin/109376252422227?source=whfrt&position=1&trqid=6355596814981099267
localyocul said... 58
I can see her outright refusing: I have seven other kids and a TV show! And two puppies! And Steve! And three cars and a saltwater pool and 22 acres!
OTOH, maybe the rift is so deep and jagged, there is at this point no way to get them in the same room together. And I would put that largely on Kate. I think she is beyond furious with this child. What's interesting is, though some people picked out his changed demeanor in the last couple of seasons, no one looked at him and thought, oh THERE's a problem child. Right? I mean, sure, he was a little different from the others, but such a behavioral "challenge" that he could no longer be at home? Or be included in family activities?
Something truly unbelievable must have happened.
TLC is making a bit of an effort on the K8 FB page, but not all that much. Here's the latest post:
Get ready to see the best of #KatePlus8 when the new season kicks off tomorrow night with a look back at some of the most memorable moments!
The clips are the Top 5 Mischief Moments. And I bet there'll be lots of, "Gee, I shouldn't have been so harsh" comments as K8 narrates. A bit too late for those sediments.
She admits he is away for "behavioral problems". Those problems stem from somewhere..likely anger/dysfunction in the family. I don't understand how family therapy WITH him isn't a big part of his program.
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Almost always family therapy would be part of treatment but they can't force Kate to participate and it would be just like Kate to refuse to go or otherwise play games with the treatment plan.
There's a creepy, very strong vibe I'm getting here that a lot of this is her revenge. Collin messed things up by "doing this to her" and just like his father, threatening her meal ticket. She knows that something like this could call TLC to pull the plug, and she knows how lucky she is they didn't. She also knows that even if they keep filming, part of the hook is the package of eight and missing one is playing with fire. So, without a doubt, she's pissed.
So she's going to get back at him. One way she will get back to him is to tell the public all his private embarrassing business. The second way she will get back at him is to make money off the situation. Do interviews and photoshoots, talk about him, and pocket the cash. The third way she will get back at him is to keep on filming without him, leaving him out of many special and fun events and even trips, to rub it in her face.
There was a glimmer of "serves you right" in her eye that no one with an ounce of maternal instinct could ever hold toward their child. She does, and it was there, clear as day.
I have wondered for a while about the G court cases. It has appeared for years like the judge favors Kate above the average liking the mother thing. Who knows why. I suspect that many times that Jon has filed he was told to go away. I think Jon has handled the whole thing badly but I think it's also an uphill battle for even the simplest things.
I believe one of the things Kate is implying is that she gets reported to CPS by her haters because that's what haters do to celebrities. Like those of us here call every few weeks for entertainment. People don't really do that. I only considered calling CPS once in my life and it wasn't about Kate. I had much more actual knowledge.
Our "whistleblower" who says her husband works there is probably lying. However, I think she is right about the essential reason Colin is gone: he wouldn't obey her every word like she expects. He somehow refused to be her slave at home and totally quiet at school. That makes him disposable like everyone else in Kate's life. Those poor kids.
Apparently, they want to be sure everyone in America sees this. Scheduled for Nightline tonight.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kate-gosselin-opens-son-collin-defends-parenting-style/story?id=43680543
I believe one of the things Kate is implying is that she gets reported to CPS by her haters because that's what haters do to celebrities. Like those of us here call every few weeks for entertainment. People don't really do that. I only considered calling CPS once in my life and it wasn't about Kate. I had much more actual knowledge.
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I agree with you I'm very doubtful the reports came from non fans. It's one of those talking a big talk about calling cps but never doing it. Also we know a fair amount about the content of some of the various reports (sending back old lunches, physical abuse, the latest report from the placement) that suggests there's no way a casual fan could be aware of those things. I also don't think people realize you're annoymous to the parent, attorneys and judge, but not cps. They're going to want your name and contact info to interview you and follow up if necessary so any nonfan would be under a lot of scrutiny if they called in. The reports are very typical of mandatory reporters like teachers. If I'm not mistaken Robert said he also called CPS, but he was a first hand witness with direct information and access to the kids. That's not the same as some internet fan. If it looks like a duck and quacks too it's a duck.
I didn't watch it. I can't stand to look at her or listen to her. Did she say anything about Collin being home for the holidays? I hope he at least gets to spend Christmas with his family.
Sheepless In Seattle said... 66
Nary a word about the holidays. Really just focused on the impact all of this has on her. Like always.
Still no mention of a #SuperFunTweetParty?
Would Jon have been given the right to take custody of C and have him treated at his home instead of being sent away?
Sad but true said... 60
...Something truly unbelievable must have happened.
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Been debating posting this because I try hard not to speculate in my comments, but it has crossed my mind that there's been no mention of Zorro for quite a while...
I don't understand how family therapy WITH him isn't a big part of his program.
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Kate will not see a therapist for any reason. Narcs don't/won't go. In her mind this is Collin's problem, not hers. He's the one upsetting her world & she expects others to "fix" him. It's not her fault that Collin is having problems. If he would only follow the rules and obey her, he wouldn't be giving her so much grief. It's his problem.
Somebody PLEASE order a psych eval on this witch!! Just what does it take! There are 10 years of taped proof! What more does a court need! Lock her up!!
After reading this ROL article, MY HEAD ALMOST EXPLODED!!!
I AM IN TEARS!!!
DAMN, SHE IS ONE EVIL, MENTALLY ILL BITCH!!!
I know I rarely curse on here, but, what other words describe a evil, mentally ill, BITCH!!!
She KNEW he wouldn't be able to come home for Thanksgiving! Jon needs to be there and eat Thanksgiving dinner with him at lunch. If that were my child, my ex would not stop me from being with him!
Those poor children. They have to be 18 to visit their brother? EVIL! EVIL! EVIL!
She doesn't want him back. Period, in my opinion.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/collins-sad-thanksgiving-kate-gosselins-son-cannot-leave-treatment-facility/
The ROL article says that Kate will be permitted to visit Collin from 2-4 on Thanksgiving Day.
NO MENTION OF JON BEING ABLE TO VISIT!
WHAT THE BLANKING HELL!
Please forgive me for swearing, but I don't know any other way to show my disgust and disdain for that freaking
YOU KNOW!
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/collins-sad-thanksgiving-kate-gosselins-son-cannot-leave-treatment-facility/
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Well at least they've dispelled this "special needs school" bullshit
Wait wtf Radar knows where he is? And two hours away sounds like Philly
Well, the latest ROL piece exposes the comment made here a month ago about Collin being seen filming with siblings at the usual corn maze as a complete fabrication. Nice try, though.
just wondering said... 71, I couldn't agree more with how you see her and her behavior in this situation. And the whole "if you don't obey" mind-set was in evidence at least a decade ago when she told her then HUSBAND that if he didn't do it her way, no one would be happy. Imagine how that impacts a kid. There's no truth or logic in the world, there's only what Mommy wants.
Sad but true, Not a nary mention of The Holidays.
Well, not a nary mention of JON PLANNING TO VISIT HIM from the facility.
She has absolutely thrown that child away. Just like all of the people that the kids loved. As precious as Aunt Jody is, I know she has to be heartbroken for Collin. And for his brothers and sisters to not be able to visit him until their 18th birthday, IS A FREAKING CRIME!
She's powerful, but NOT THAT POWERFUL enough to stop Jon from visiting him. I am praying that Jon will be able to visit him on Thanksgiving Day for lunch. Maybe he is because of what he said that it was good.
How DARE TLC show this show tonight. Even if TFW was under contract, TLC should of bought her out and canceled her pronto.
Sickening to think that it will be a year and a half almost for Mady and Cara TO VISIT THEIR BROTHER!
EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!
But what do you expect from a raging narc?
I hope and pray the backlash and outrage is
SWIFT and SEVERE!
This is not normal. Even OCTOMOM, Nadya barely a peep out of her. When she did the last update, her severely autistic child goes to a special school during the day and COMES HOME AT NIGHT!
Since he is in CA, I think he must have wrap around care that Admin mentions.
Facebook has a trending section and TFW is listed. I linked to the page and the most of the articles are very harsh calling her the worst mother of all times. The comments are also mostly negative. People are very critical of her. There are very few comments defending her.
Rainbirdie said... 70
If it did, I bet it was something accidental that she perceived as a deliberate act. This has been her MO with him, especially, since day one. She perceives anything that doesn't go according to her plan as intentional defiance. She doesn't believe in accidents or honest mistakes.
The ROL article says that Kate will be permitted to visit Collin from 2-4 on.....
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GollyGee - That doesn't mean that she's getting special privileges, it just means that visitors are permitted during those hours.
Poor Collin.
I'm not trying to diagnose Collin but I found this online:
oppositional defiant disorder ODD
"The origins of angry, defiant behaviors in children (ODD)
ODD can be the result of numerous unjust hurts and disappointments with parents, siblings and peers. A child may also acquire ODD from modeling after an angry parent, sibling or peers."
"There's no known clear cause of oppositional defiant disorder. Contributing causes may be a combination of inherited and environmental factors"
Environmental cause: "problems with parenting that may involve a lack of supervision, inconsistent or harsh discipline, or abuse or neglect."
From what I read this is one disorder that can be the direct result of a parent's parenting style. It seems that even if the child has a genetic disorder there must also be an environmental cause. So an abusive parent (or sibling or peer) is part of the problem.
I read an quoted from two different websites. But you can google ODD behavior.
Again, I have no idea what Collin is diagnosed with, but it seems to me that with a mother like Kate any issues he has are probably a result of how she treated him.
The symptoms are too many to list but sounds like what Kate claims Collin's symptoms are.
I have thought of ODD too.
Localyocul said... 76
Wait wtf Radar knows where he is? And two hours away sounds like Philly
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Unless they mean a two hour round-trip which again makes me think of a few specific places in Chester County.
Just to be clear, my point in posting about ODD was not to diagnose Collin.
I just felt that Collin's behavior has to be because of how Kate treated him. Many child behavioral disorders are genetic. But some aren't, at least not totally.
I would just hate for him to be labeled as something from birth and Kate not get any blame for it if there's a chance it's a direct result of her parenting.
They say even some serial killers may not have been serial killers if they were raised differently.
It makes me very sad and angry to know that parents (or someone else) treat children in ways that lead the child to behavior they would not have had if it wasn't for their childhood experiences.
NJGal51 said... 82
The ROL article says that Kate will be permitted to visit Collin from 2-4 on.....
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GollyGee - That doesn't mean that she's getting special privileges, it just means that visitors are permitted during those hours.
Poor Collin.
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Oh, NJGal51, I know. I knew it was the visiting hours for everyone 2-4.
I wonder if Steve is allowed to visit Collin.
If he is, it is a CRYING SHAME that he can over Collin's own brother and sisters!
Somebody told Radar where Collin is. If Radar confirmed it, how the hell did Jon not know? It sounds like the Philly area, a 2 hour drive.
My guess is TFW would've skipped visiting C on Thursday. Who'd want to interrupt a special family holiday, filled with food, fun, and puppies, for a 4-hour round trip drive? But now with this article out mentioning the visiting hours, I suspect poor Miss
Go-To-The-Ends-Of-The-Earth is gonna have to haul herself there to make an appearance -- and see if Scott the Pap can come by and snap a picture of the heroic, doing-it-all-alone mom going to visit her precious boy. Hey, a girl's gotta fill those 7 remaining golden platters with food somehow, and there are ratings to consider.
Can't let those Duggars show her up again.
I just pictured that poor child in the cafeteria at some facility on Thanksgiving, while his mother chirps about puppies and chick flicks, and got sick to my stomach. And GollyGee, these caps are for you:
KATE GOSSELIN IS A HORRIBLE MOTHER.
CC said... 86
Not only do I agree with you, I hope he's had brain scans and whatever other tests they use to diagnose shaken-baby syndrome and the like. I think she really may have injured him physically when he was small.
CC (#86), thanks for that ODD info. Yes, that theory has been floated here a few times. And, no, I would certainly not accuse you of trying to diagnose C. Your intentions have always proven to be kind and caring, and in the best interests of the G kids.
I know I've mentioned this one a hundred times, but I think it's one of TFW's true "Monster Mom" moments. When the kids were getting off a plane, and C rushed ahead, and whacked his head. And his mother's response? "Sometimes God builds in punishments." Heck, if I saw a random kid anywhere whack their head, I'd rush over to see if they were okay, and I suspect most of us would. What a window into TFW's dark soul. As if C's childlike exuberance was just an eff you to her, and he deserved to be hurt.
I'm not sure how accurate that Radar article is. I've never heard of a facility that forbids sibling visits outright. Most service providers these days recognize how important contact with your family, including siblings, is.
In individual cases sibling visits might be suspended or monitored but that's only because there is some danger posed. Radar paints it like this is just a house rule, no sibling visits. It's odd, uncommon, and I don't buy it.
I am 100% sold on this being an involuntary, out of home placement that Kate either had to agree to or go to court and fight it. Which is all the more reason for her to withhold visitation to "punish" the offender for all this trouble.
Jeez, what kind of facility doesn't allow minor siblings to visit? It sounds quite drastic.
I assumed that after all these months, that Colin might have been able to visit home. Now, I'm pretty sure that he hasn't been released to visit, nor has seen his bros and sis.
I bet he's only seen Kate briefly.
This is VERY harsh, if true.
Again, TLC....WTF?
It is readily apparent at this point, that Kate is withholding Colin's whereabouts from Jon. Hell, if a judge told me that I couldn't tell the father of my children where they were, I'd tell him to shove it.
Slap a fine on me. The father needs to know and has been on tv for a LONG time now, begging to know.
@CC The only CLUE we have is when both Collin and Alexis were both expelled due to behavior problems years ago.IIRC the report said that the two of them had anger issues and would hit other kids and the teacher.Im just shocked Alexis hasn't cross the line like Collin did.Then again the girls are the ones who are large and in charge in that house it seems.
It is all about her, isn't it?
http://www.eonline.com/news/811086/tracing-kate-gosselin-s-rocky-road-since-jon-gosselin-was-bounced-from-the-jon-kate-plus-8-equation
And the liar who lies, continues to lie.
And according to Gosselin, she spent almost all of her time alone at home with the sextuplets during those years, while Mady and Cara were in kindergarten and her ex-husband Jon worked outside the house.
“I was mostly caring for them alone, by myself,” she says. “I worked a 16-hour shift on Saturdays and went to church on Sundays, but other than that, I was housebound, and in a strange way it was almost the most control I had, because it was like I was running a daycare.”
Gosselin says during that time, she taught herself plenty of cooking tips and tricks — “like a perfect substitute for mayonnaise, because if I didn’t have something, I couldn’t leave the house to get it.”
“I was a shut-in … a shut-in with plenty of company,” she says. “I was anything but lonely.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-full-teens-tweens-rivals-130039708.html
This was published on yahoo just 2 hours ago.
Apparently, Kate gave another interview to People about Collin.
From the article:
"“This is all new to me, and to our family,” Kate, 41, says about one of her sextuplets living away from home.
“I don’t know what the road ahead entails, but I’m very happy with the care that he’s getting, and am still completely comforted by the fact that he is so clearly exactly where he needs to be, getting precisely what he needs — it comforts me as a mother, because when you, as a mom, can’t give your kids what they need, it is a huge comfort to find people who can,” she added.
Although the Kate Plus 8 star misses her son living at home with the rest of the family, she is at peace knowing “he’s where he needs to be right now, and I can feel good about that.”
http://people.com/celebrity/kate-gosselin-son-collin-is-getting-precisely-what-he-needs-at-live-in-learning-facility/
Just read the ROL article. The article cites "spokesperson for the center" as its source.
If someone at the center is talking to ROL about Collin, then he is definitely NOT where he needs to be.
Although ROL just could have just asked them what protocols are in place for holidays like Thanksgiving, not specifically about Collin.
I still kind of doubt that ROL knows where Collin is. The article states that "An insider told Radar that Collin was in a treatment center outside Philadelphia, while other sources explained that the boy suffers from “anger issues.” Why would an "insider" tell ROL where Collin is, but not tell Jon?
The whole things sounds fishy to me.
I admit I had to laugh when ROL stated that they won't name the center for "privacy" reasons. Since when did ROL ever care about anyone's privacy?
If someone at the center is talking to ROL about Collin, then he is definitely NOT where he needs to be.
Although ROL just could have just asked them what protocols are in place for holidays like Thanksgiving, not specifically about Collin.
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It has the feel os a sneak call to them to just ask general questions. Hi I'm someone's aunt who is thinking about putting my nephew in your placement. What are your Thanksgiving hour visits, can siblings visit, etc? Bam, there's their story.
They might not have even been calling the right facility, just called whatever one they got the tip about.
I agree, if the facility is talking to Radar knowing it's them, they are not a good placement. I just can't imagine someone would do that what with all the safeguards in place to protect children's privacy. Even when I call such facilities to speak with clients it's often multiple layers of red tape to verify me first. It's pretty standard at these placements you don't take calls from the press, and they would be all the more careful with a child of a "celebrity" there.
ODD is common in abused children. It's how the abuse manifests, often.
Not a single mention of all the helpers, the church ladies, the relatives including Jodi, Beth and other volunteers who eased her burden.
I would be so hurt to be those people and know your contribution, and love for the kids, has been completely erased from history.
Not to mention, those kids were 18 months old when filming started and never stopped. From then on out it was all kinds of trips, an incredible amount of freebies, speaking engagements and all kinds of breaks away from the children.
So at most, she had 18 months, with hosts of volunteers also there, to be "imprisoned" to her children--and that was it, the rest was baller.
Tucker's Mom said... 92
Jeez, what kind of facility doesn't allow minor siblings to visit? It sounds quite drastic.
I assumed that after all these months, that Colin might have been able to visit home. Now, I'm pretty sure that he hasn't been released to visit, nor has seen his bros and sis.
I bet he's only seen Kate briefly.
This is VERY harsh, if true.
Again, TLC....WTF?
It is readily apparent at this point, that Kate is withholding Colin's whereabouts from Jon. Hell, if a judge told me that I couldn't tell the father of my children where they were, I'd tell him to shove it.
Slap a fine on me. The father needs to know and has been on tv for a LONG time now, begging to know.
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Thank you, Tucker's! I totally agree. I just don't understand the judge or judges in the court where Jon and Kate have to go.
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Flimsy, thank you!
I know the feeling about being sick at your stomach about poor Collin. I am in just a knot about it. We always say on here that TFW hates Jon more than she loves her kids.
She now hates Collin more than she hates Jon.
I wonder if she was willing to let Collin be the sacrificial lamb when they were expelled from school and Ax was spared from the same fate because she would of been canceled for sure if 2 kids had to go into a treatment facility.
The arrogant proudness of her saying that she has 10 years of memories on tape is really disgusting. She is grinning when she says it and I think it is because she is thinking about all of the money, trips, things, services that she has benefited from just getting her family memories on VHS tape.
Admin (#87), and we also know about the kids' extended nap schedule. Tired or not, those toddlers were stuck in their cribs for hours every afternoon. So there were 3-4 hour chunks of each day for TFW to escape her daycare clientele -- er, I mean, her precious babies.
Another thing that strikes me is I've never seen someone hang onto a flash moment in time from over a DECADE ago so fiercely. Her kids are all teenagers now. Yes the babyhood time surely must have been a lot of work but for God sake, it's over now, long over. Why is she dwelling on it? She brings it up so much. She sounds resentful of the children, as if she still wants those couple years back somehow, like she got robbed. She is ever the martyr. Not to mention the re-writing of history about doing it alone, which is a whole other pathology. I have a feeling she holds that time against the kids, and brings it up to them a lot, as if they owe her somehow.
A normal parent should see such memories of the sleepless times fade away, replaced by all the memories of what joy your kids have brought you. You start to not remember how hard it was when they were babies, it fades. For her, it's as fresh as ever and if anything she is forgetting all the things that made it so much easier on her than even for some parents with just one or two babies.
Another article from People, titled "A House Full of Teens & Tweens 'Rivals' the Stress of the Year Kate Gosselin's Sextuplets Were Born". It's basically a Pity Party for Kate.
http://people.com/celebrity/kate-gosselin-talks-stress-house-full-teenagers/
"According to the TLC star, this particular time frame — namely, having a house full of preteens and teenagers — is equally as challenging as when her sextuplets were first born.
“It rivals that first year for the first time ever,” she says, explaining that she uses the memory of that year “as a source of inspiration and encouragement,” telling herself: “You do have the strength, you’ve travelled some hard yards already. You can do this — you’ve made it through tough stuff before.”
“Logistics, exhaustions, no sleep, a nightmare,” she adds. “I always say: I can’t believe I made it through that first year.”
And according to Gosselin, she spent almost all of her time alone at home with the sextuplets during those years, while Mady and Cara were in kindergarten and her ex-husband Jon worked outside the house.
“I was mostly caring for them alone, by myself,” she says. “I worked a 16-hour shift on Saturdays and went to church on Sundays, but other than that, I was housebound, and in a strange way it was almost the most control I had, because it was like I was running a daycare.”
Gosselin says during that time, she taught herself plenty of cooking tips and tricks — “like a perfect substitute for mayonnaise, because if I didn’t have something, I couldn’t leave the house to get it.”
“I was a shut-in … a shut-in with plenty of company,” she says. “I was anything but lonely.”
There she goes again, saying how HARD she had it and how she had to do everything ALL by herself.
Has she ever, ever, ever, said "It was rough, but the joys of having those babies far outweighed the hardships "? That's what most mothers would say--but then again, Kate is not like most mothers. It's always about "Me, Me, Me!!!"
Has she ever, ever, ever, said "It was rough, but the joys of having those babies far outweighed the hardships "? That's what most mothers would say--but then again, Kate is not like most mothers. It's always about "Me, Me, Me!!!"
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And does she ever say, it was rough, but I can't imagine how much rougher it would have been without dear friends and family that helped including Beth, Jodi, church friends, etc.
Come on, it's on film. It's.on.film there were people over there all the damn time helping her out. No community is going to leave a family of sextuplets and twins high and dry, and neither did theirs. I wouldn't be surprised she had shifts of people over 7 days a week plus all the times she left the babies at Jodi's and Beth's, sure looked like it from the filming we saw.
Not a single mention of all the helpers, the church ladies, the relatives including Jodi, Beth and other volunteers who eased her burden.
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Kate, in her selective memory, also seems to forget that she had a full-time nurse helping for the first year of the sextuplets' lives.
She really believes that she can just re-write well-documented history, and everyone will just buy into it.
Kate also spoke to People about Jon in an article titled "Kate Gosselin Says Her Kids Are 'Sad' About the 'New Daddy' Jon Has Become".
Strange thing, though--if you google that title it will show up with a link to the People.com, but then it comes up as "not found". Seems like People removed it from its site.
However, Yahoo News has the article:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kate-gosselin-says-her-kids-144444427.html
I'll post the whole thing, in case it gets deleted also.
"Kate Gosselin knows firsthand that divorce isn’t easy, especially on children.
The mother of eight is exclusively opening up to PEOPLE about her past relationship with ex-husband Jon, 39, and how their eight kids handled the big shift in their family’s dynamic since the couple’s 2009 split.
“I look at honestly as two different people — back in the day, he could change diapers faster than anyone, he was there, he was involved, ever-present, very involved, the kids remember him that way, as well,” Kate, 41, reveals in this week’s issue.
Then the former reality star couple’s marriage crumbled at the height of their success as reality stars on TLC’s Jon & Kate Plus 8.
“I can remember those good days without any jaded ugliness,” she continues. “The kids and I remember those days because they are their memories, too. The kids have coined it ‘Old Daddy’ and ‘New Daddy.’ It’s how they’ve been able to deal with it. very sad, more than angry, in the end.”
In the decade since Kate and her brood stepped in front of cameras, she’s seen just how much her eight children have all grown — not just physically, but mentally and emotionally.
“I don’t see it in terms of their physical changes, but I do see it in terms of their maturity — the ways they’ll talk to me, the things they are capable of and their abilities now,” she explained. “I’m having a conversation with Mady and Cara now, and they’re almost eye-level with me, for starters, and that’s mind-blowing.”
So, tell me, Kate, how is revealing that the kids refer to memories with Jon as "Old Daddy, New Daddy"(if true) NOT "jaded ugliness".
Anyone else find Kate's recent interviews bizarre and concerning?
The revisionist history and dwelling on the past is because TLC is airing a 10 year special show of repeats?
My gawd, she is beyond a broken record.
Kate is usually self centered, but this is ridiculous.
It has the feel of a sneak call to them to just ask general questions.
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Reminds me of the sneaky tabloid call to Steve's room when TFW was on CA. I am so glad the inner sanctum of Steve and TFW's suite at the Essex house was penetrated.
Dollars to donuts CA paid for two rooms and they both stayed in one!
So simple. Dial the number of the hotel. Tell the desk clerk, Steve Neild's room please. The phone rings and SHE PICKS UP!
Who is this? Excuuuuuuuse ME!?!
Bwahahaha!
Of course the dingbat had help - she's such an f-ing liar! It's on film, there were a million post it notes around the damn house that everyone saw - this woman is insufferable!
The most chilling is the smirk on her face during that GMA interview. She feels she is above reproach - why would she mention that she's been investigated by child services many times - she added that in, not Amy Robach.
There was absolutely no emotion when she spoke about C. WTF is wrong with this woman? WTF is wrong with the media never ever calling her out on her BS. It's been the same story for years!
Sorry the unknown person comment (94) was me.I was in a hurry to post my comment but then it said to make some new account(don't know why).Couldn't log in time because i had a dentist appointment.
Old daddy and new daddy? She's really got these kids brain washed. Also I highly doubt they remember daddy changing their diapers. They were two.
Kate also did an interview with Access Hollywood. In this one, Collin is “trucking along”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF7UeuRFGPg
She was asked if it was difficult for her to read some of the things Jon said, and she replied:
“It’s unfortunate that he chooses to air his grievances, for lack of a better word, publicly. It hurts MY kids which is my main concern.”
The interviewer elaborates and says:
“Even specifically, when he tells about not knowing where Collin is and not being aware of what he’s going through and what he’s dealing with, that can’t be easy”.
I can’t ascertain whether the interviewer meant that it can’t be easy for Jon or for Kate, but Kate assumes he meant for her and goes on to say:
Obviously, he needs to say that publicly. It’s not easy, but at the same time, the privacy and protection of MY kids and Collin, specifically, is of the utmost importance to me.”
Kind of ironic that she states that about the “privacy and protection” of her kids while doing a very PUBLIC interview, don’t ya think?
Somebody told Radar where Collin is. If Radar confirmed it, how the hell did Jon not know?
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Because Radar pays good money for tips. It could have been a cleaning lady, a groundskeeper, or anyone who heard about it. Or the spouse of that person.
"Obviously, he needs to say that publicly. It’s not easy, but at the same time, the privacy and protection of MY kids and Collin, specifically, is of the utmost importance to me.”
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Hmmmm, People cover talking about Collin's problems. The show starting up again. Multiple interviews the past couple of days. Jon is the one seeking publicity and she is the one protecting their privacy? I just wonder how her mind works because I'm sure she really believes this horseshit. Unfortunately for her, that People cover opened this whole can of worms and no one is looking at her very favorably.
Photoshopfun - I know that you're on this blog under another name but you need to put lipstick on a pig and call it Kate!
How do"privacy and protection" relate to a front-page story in People magazine? She is such a hypocrite! And if there is a gag order in place, as she said, how is she okay giving all these interviews about the kids?
I wonder if the reason siblings under 18 cannot visit at Collin's facility is because they could be harmed. The kids there have emotional and behavioral problems, and could lash out at others who happen to be there. It is probably a liability/safety issue.
I hope Jon is reading here and getting all these articles together for his lawyer. Especially if the articles are being removed from the web sites. TFW is a real piece of work. In the pictures we've seen of Jon & the kids (that he gets to see) everyone seems to be pretty happy. I agree Admin, she really does have these kids brainwashed.
ODD can also result from lack of bonding as an infant. Multiple caregivers, too few care givers, no consistency. Babies are comforted by a consistent voice, smell, rocking patterns, etc. It's more common in orphanages where there is not enough care to be spread around, but also affects HOMs with ever changing caregivers.
Some babies are more at risk than others because of how well or how badly they learn how to self soothe. They rock themselves, suck their thumbs, have a favorite blanket that always smells the same.
Living within that house with revolving caretakers, a narc for a mother, being sent to their cribs for hours at a time, and then locked in the basement for more hours at a time, well, she killed Collins soul.
C is the new Nala unfortunately. It's such a sad story for the kids. How is this abuse different from Honey Boo Boo? How can TLC reconcile this bullshit?
@swimgirl (80) While that maybe good,we'll have to wait and see what her viewer count is.Hopefully less then a million but since she has 2 lead in shows,i think she'll get 1 million.On the other hand these looking back episodes don't really get a large viewers count.
I wonder if TFW did some of the interviews before the shit hit the fan yesterday and they're just being printed now. She's been very quiet on social media and hasn't mentioned anything about a SUPERFUN Twitter party. Jon's lawyer did make a statement yesterday and I hope that she's contacting the proper authorities about TFW's statements about Jon. Today's article about "Old/New Daddy" seems to be really pushing the boundaries of common decency. Oh, wait, she doesn't have any. Can you imagine how this must make Jon feel.
Nicky said... 118
C is the new Nala unfortunately. It's such a sad story for the kids. How is this abuse different from Honey Boo Boo? How can TLC reconcile this bullshit?
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Because the media sycophants like to couch it with phrases like "real life", "messy" and "warts and all".
How about "abusive"?
The thing is, who would put their own kids through this, let alone broadcast it to the world?
What, specifically, has Jon said that was so hurtful? All I've heard him say is stating the facts that there are problems including with access to his children.
She has said massively embarrassing and hurtful things to and about her children, and SHE'S the one who continues to exploit them even though there are all kinds of indications it's not in their best interest. She really is one to talk about who is hurting her kids here.
Kate, in her selective memory, also seems to forget that she had a full-time nurse helping for the first year of the sextuplets' lives.
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That's right! The full time public health nurse. How can she say, with a straight face, she was always alone??
I wonder if the reason siblings under 18 cannot visit at Collin's facility is because they could be harmed. The kids there have emotional and behavioral problems, and could lash out at others who happen to be there. It is probably a liability/safety issue.
November 22, 2016 at 9:06 AM
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When I think about adolescent facilities with that level of security and restrictions, I think of kids who stand over their sleeping parents with a knife in their hand.
Seriously.
I kind of wonder if any of this makes sense to Robert.
Unfortunately for her, that People cover opened this whole can of worms and no one is looking at her very favorably.
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How anyone, anyone at all, can think filming their lives now is fine, is beyond my comprehension.
This is beyond messy life. This is a travesty.
I can't believe that Kate can't be shut down from continually whoring her kids out for fame and money.
It’s not easy, but at the same time, the privacy and protection of MY kids and Collin, specifically, is of the utmost importance to me.”
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She seems to be saying that it can't be easy for Jon not to know where Collin is but their privacy is most important. What doesn't she understand about this? He is their FATHER, you're not supposed to hide a father's children from him, he is entitled to know where his son is. Does she honestly think Jon would turn right around once he knows and hand Collin's address to the media. Jon has been more than discreet about his children, repeatedly refusing to answer prying questions about them and in fact asking people not to even ask. WTH.
This from a woman responsible for disclosing to the public any of this was going on in the first place. What a bait and switch.
The interviewer elaborates and says:
“Even specifically, when he tells about not knowing where Collin is and not being aware of what he’s going through and what he’s dealing with, that can’t be easy”.
I can’t ascertain whether the interviewer meant that it can’t be easy for Jon or for Kate, but Kate assumes he meant for her and goes on to say:
Obviously, he needs to say that publicly. It’s not easy, but at the same time, the privacy and protection of MY kids and Collin, specifically, is of the utmost importance to me.”
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OK, now, how can any professional look at this and not see the extreme parental alienation?
MY kids?
Hon, the kids are BOTH of yours.
I can only imagine Jon's regret over signing away legal custody.
There's a longer video on the Nightline website. No words.... She is awful!
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kate-gosselin-opens-son-collin-defends-parenting-style/story?id=43680543
“I can remember those good days without any jaded ugliness,” she continues. “The kids and I remember those days because they are their memories, too. The kids have coined it ‘Old Daddy’ and ‘New Daddy.’ It’s how they’ve been able to deal with it. very sad, more than angry, in the end.”
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OK, how much more does a professional or judge need to see? The kids were 5 when their parents split. Dynamics change when parents divorce, but a kid know the LOVE is the same,
C'mon. Would someone please order this parental alienator into therapy, ffs?
If your children start some 'old daddy, new daddy" bullsh*t, you shut that sh*t DOWN!
This is Kate and her telling the world that Jon changed overnight and aliens abducted him.
TLC is f*ing disgusting.
Always just listening to the beat of her own special drummer, is Doofus.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 47m47 minutes ago
The DAY has arrived! Last call for boarding the #MemoryLaneTrain > 10yrs Anniversary special of #KatePlus8 TONIGHT! 10pm #TLC @Kateplusmy8
I hope the tweet by Jon saying that he can't say much but all is good wasn't a lie.I don't think he would tweet that if nothing has change,so only time will tell if that tweet actually meant anything.
What sort of lies has she told the treatment center. You would think if part of C's problems relates to Jon and divorce that they would want Jon in on the therapy too. Do they know how she used to beat C and others when they were toddlers?
Kate Coyne has really gone the extra mile for her good pal Katie Gosselin, hasn't she? What is it, two or three articles today? The one about New Daddy/Old Daddy is particularly despicable. And there is no way that the kids "coined" that term for Jon without some direction from Mommy Dearest.
If this is not the end of her with TLC, then it's pretty clear they are utterly lacking in any moral compass whatsoever. They have contributed hugely to the public degradation of Collin (the private is a whole 'nother story, but I believe they must share the blame for that, too), and I hope they are forced in a court some time soon to answer for it and to pay DAMAGES to this child. This should not have been allowed to happen.
The thing about the old and new daddy too is why is she assuming the kids mean something negative about it?
The kids could simply mean old daddy was at the house, new daddy lives elsewhere. Did she drill them about what they meant by it or did she do the right thing and inform their therapist about their comments and why they might be troubling?
For all she knows, they call her old and new mommy too, and think nothing of it. She never explains exactly what the kids mean by this or what gives her reason to think it's negative. Naturally she just assumes it's negative.
just wondering said... 117
ODD can also result from lack of bonding as an infant. Multiple caregivers, too few care givers, no consistency. Babies are comforted by a consistent voice, smell, rocking patterns, etc. It's more common in orphanages where there is not enough care to be spread around, but also affects HOMs with ever changing caregivers.
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I thought I posted a comment earlier about this, but maybe it was just in my head. I sincerely hope he has been given physiological tests along with everything else, because "shaken baby" syndrome is real, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he bears real and lasting scars from the beatings she inflicted on him as a toddler. If his doctors haven't looked at that, I hope they've at least been made aware of it.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 133
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For all she knows, they call her old and new mommy too, and think nothing of it.
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LOL, but in Kate's case, it's more like Old Mommy, Newer Mommy, 2009 Enhanced Mommy, 2010 Dancing Mommy, 2011 Unemployed Mommy, 2012 Coupon Mommy, 2013 Sorta-Like-Mommy, 2014 Barbie/Kendra Mommy. . . .
I watched the clip of the video that showed Kate coming home to her babies in their cribs after she had her makeover.
Alexis kept saying Mommy Mommy, and Hi Hi. Then Kate kissed Aaden on his forehead or something like that... but for the first time I noticed that neither one put their arms up for her to pick them up!
Isn't that a baby's normal reaction when they see their mother? Especially after not seeing her for a while? Especially when they are in a crib and can't go to her on their own? Just struck me as odd.
I thought I posted a comment earlier about this, but maybe it was just in my head. I sincerely hope he has been given physiological tests along with everything else, because "shaken baby" syndrome is real, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he bears real and lasting scars from the beatings she inflicted on him as a toddler. If his doctors haven't looked at that, I hope they've at least been made aware of it.
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Jon would be the only person who could say, "Yeah, that's her diary, her writing and yes, she lost her temper with our children".
Could be why Jon is being kept away from Colin and his treatment at all costs.
The thing is, any competent professional treating a child with emotional and behavioral problems would insist on speaking to BOTH parents.
How can you take an accurate history without?
Now I have no doubt as to why Kate is keeping Jon in the dark.
For one, I'm leaning along with Admin and thinking this wasn't voluntary and for two, I think Kate is trying to keep her abuse as much of a secret as possible.
When and if Colin reveals abuse, all Kate has to do is deny or explain it away.
LOL, but in Kate's case, it's more like Old Mommy, Newer Mommy, 2009 Enhanced Mommy, 2010 Dancing Mommy, 2011 Unemployed Mommy, 2012 Coupon Mommy, 2013 Sorta-Like-Mommy, 2014 Barbie/Kendra Mommy. . . .
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The irony- am I right?!
So, to summarize, all of Kate's changes are GOOD, and all of Jon's changes are BAD.
Got it.
Robert said that video of the tups saying mommy mommy and hi twice was right when Kate came back from her tummy tuck. He said those kids were so use to her coming into the bedroom screaming at them in their cribs for not sleeping, that the response of her walking in with the cameras was one of fear! They didn't know how to respond to her acting nice when coming at them in the cribs so you are hearing fear and trepidation and uncertainty in their voices. They literally did not know how to respond to her at that moment. (It was in his book)
And to summarize Colin's progress all these months in inpatient treatment: Chugging, trucking and plodding.
Sounds promising.
"Old Daddy and New Daddy" -- is she f***in' stupid beyond words -- well yeah, she is, to think that any rational adult would know these are her words that she drummed into their heads. I had never heard the term parental alienator until reading here about Kate. It is a despicable, horrible crime to do this to those kids. I stand amazed that the courts have stood by and done nothing to stop this child abuser and TLC is a station I haven't watched in a very long time and one I will never watch again.
I've tried to read some of the articles you folks are posting, and find myself having to only skim them, because they are making my blood boil. She is so disturbed.
"Old Daddy?" Oh, give me a break, heifer.
If -- and that's a big freakin' if -- they say that, it's because you have effing BRAINWASHED your children to hate their father. That is reprehensible.
Say it again, TFW -- I AM a horrible mother.
Are any other rest of you as surprised and really shocked at the fact that the sheeple can still support this whacko to the extent they do. They love to blame Jon for everything, it seems to be their goal in life - as well as coming here and taking comments back to tear apart. And they think we need to get a life. What a joke. All of these people are supporting and standing behind a child abuser. Either they are one as well or they are the ones who look the other way and use the old adage they are famous for -- she is their mother and has a right to raise them any way she chooses. I cannot imagine seeing a child abused and doing nothing to stop it. I know we can't stop the abuse that Kate is inflicting on her children, but we sure can stop standing behind her or supporting her abusive behavior. Collin is a very abused child and you see it in his eyes all the time. I will never forget hearing him say, 'I wish I could hug Mommy too but she won't let me'. I rarely cry over anything on TV but that one made me cry. THAT is who you think can do no wrong sheeple.
https://relationshipedia.me/2015/06/16/the-8-most-common-narc-sadistic-conversation-control-tactics/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-is-2020/201405/narcissistic-parents-psychological-effect-their-children
I will be watching the DWTS finale tonight.
Sad but true - You are spot on with ALL of your comments today.
Why, oh why, can't Jon do anything to shut her down. Where are her handlers? They should know that she can't speak off-the-cuff in interviews without coming off sounding like a complete asshole. You can tell by the tone of her answers in the interviews that she has not been coached because a simple "no comment" would sound much better than the hate that she's spewing. She says Jon needs to respect Collin's privacy while she continues to give updates on his plodding along in treatment. I wonder if Steve's been told "hands-off" and if this is TLC's way of finally getting rid of the albatross around their neck. Finally, I hate to tell Kate, but her latest facial "enhancements" make her look like she's sneering or smirking with every answer she gives. The smile never did reach her eyes and now it's not even reaching her top lip. Frozen face syndrome.
Tucker's Mom said... 143
And to summarize Colin's progress all these months in inpatient treatment: Chugging, trucking and plodding.
Sounds promising.
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OMG - exactly! It reminds me of my husband - his mother is probably narcissistic, along with all her other issues. A few weeks after we had our first child, my mom was leaving after a visit, and told us how proud of us she was, and that we were doing a great job, etc, etc. I didn't really think anything of it, as I've heard those kind of things from my parents all my life. Once she left, my husband was very emotional. He said he realized that he never heard that from his mom ever. I always say he turned out to be a good person in spite of his mother.
Kate sees raising her kids as checking off a list - feed, bathe, clothe, rinse and repeat. There is no emotion at all. Funny, since she seems to have great fondness for her grandparents, and no love for her parents, its not like she didn't get any affection at all.
I can hear Milo panting.
kateplusmy8
If you're wondering if we're having a 'Tweet Party' during #KatePlus8 premiere tonight 10/9c on @TLC .. The answer is OH MY HEAVENS, YES 🎉🎉
5 min ago from Twitterrific · Retweet · Reply · Favorite
Funny how Milo I still not including TLC in her tweets. It's #TLC, not @TLC. Doesn't she want them to see her support? Her attempts to promote the show? It's not oversight because she always includes @Kateplusmy8.
Not only are the kids not particularly thrilled to see Kate when she comes back from the tummy tuck but you can hear some of them BEGIN TO CRY when she opens the door and says "Mommy's home".
https://youtu.be/IfdTVPN8Tww?t=5m50s
It should start exactly at that point but if not, it's around 5:50. Listen carefully. It appears the kids begin to cry after Kate speaks, they were not crying already. Disturbing.
Original T said... 128
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kate-gosselin-opens-son-collin-defends-parenting-style/story?id=43680543
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From the interview:
"Do you ever go back though & see those moments & think 'Why, why am I letting the cameras in?"
"No, I've never thought that. Kids need to see real parents. People need to see real families".
She's nuts.
Milo's Twitter party, We're having a Tweet party", sounds like, "We're having a heat wave, a tropical heat wave"!
I am sure that your Twitter Queen is sweating bullets in her own self-made heat wave as we type!
I check @TLC's twitter timeline and they've been tweeting about Outdaughtered and LPBW but nothing about Kate.
The only tweet about Kate returning was from the @DiscoveryComm twitter account back on Oct. 3l.
DiscoveryComm @DiscoveryComm Oct 31
.@Kateplusmy8 celebrates 10 years on @TLC with a new season of #KatePlus8: http://bit.ly/2eg2SHo
Also, the press release about the show returning wasn't issued by TLC, but by Discovery Communications, also on Oct. 31.
https://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-newsroom/kate-gosselin-celebrates-ten-years-on-tlc-with-a-new-season-of-kate-plus-8/
Seems like TLC doesn't want to deal with her at all, and is letting Discovery Communications bear the burden of promoting her.
Perhaps that's why Kate hasn't been mentioning TLC in her tweets. I noticed that she did include them today when she tweeted about the tweet party.
I'm thinking Colin would be better off if kate didn't go visit him. I can only imagine the anxiety, the threatening "looks", him knowing he's done something terribly wrong (in HER eyes) in finally telling someone of the abuse. He probably felt safe enough to tell since he was out of his toxic environment. It probably became clear to him that his home life is not normal. He got some space between him and his manipulator. Even if it's supervised visits, the stress he will endure could push his progress back.
Layla said... 151
Funny how Milo I still not including TLC in her tweets. It's #TLC, not @TLC. Doesn't she want them to see her support? Her attempts to promote the show? It's not oversight because she always includes @Kateplusmy8.
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I guess she was following Kate's lead. Kate included @TLC in her tweet about the "tweet party". Then Milo replied and included @TLC.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 11m11 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC Well of course.. #AsTheSkyIsBlue to your peeps you will be true! #TweePartyTonight 10pm I'm all in! 😋
Milo was in such a frenzy to reply about the tweet party, that she left out the second "T" in #TweeParty!
I googled "twee" and the Urban Dictionary defines it as:
"twee. Something that is sweet, almost to the point of being sickeningly so."
Maybe Milo got it right after all.
"No, I've never thought that. Kids need to see real parents. People need to see real families".
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What in the?
We can see real parents and kids in our own homes in families. No one NEEDS to see a stranger's family. It does not add value to anyone's life. People watch for entertainment, to see what the shrew would do or say next.
So now she's doing it for the greater good of the public. What a martyr.
From the interview:
"Do you ever go back though & see those moments & think 'Why, why am I letting the cameras in?"
"No, I've never thought that. Kids need to see real parents. People need to see real families".
She is so full of herself. Does she think she's the only one on the planet that is a "real parent" or has a "real family"?
If I want to see a "real parent" or a "real family", I go visit my daughter, SIL and grandkids. I don't have to watch a reality TV show in order to "see" that.
Unfortunately, her kids have seen Kate, the "real parent", and I'm sure they are still hoping for a "New Mommy".
KIAT (#157), yes, "twee" is a great adjective for Gladys! She sure tried to get TFW's attention last night with her car drama, but TFW didn't respond.
But ol' faithful Gladys is still waving her pompoms about tonight's show.
"No, I've never thought that. Kids need to see real parents. People need to see real families".
She's nuts.
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She's doing the public a service. Where would we all be if we couldn't see families implode and children fail on our tv's?
Kate seems like she's all, "F*CK IT" right about now. She does not give a crap how she looks and isn't even trying to cover her contempt and glee.
I think it's very possible TLC has cut ties with Kate and I would not be surprised if Kate's whole season doesn't air.
The shear mass of the problem that is Kate Gosselin is growing by orders of magnitude.
Every interview and appearance is more repulsive and shocking than the last.
If there is one thing about Kate's fanbase i can't stand,its the hypocrisy.I may at times can be hypocritical but at least i owe up to it.But the Kate fans never see it.If Jon was alienating some of the kids from Kate,im certain goody would be calling him a POS for keeping the kids from Jon.But i guess its ok for Kate MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 25m25 minutes ago
@1380danie @Kateplusmy8 Not all the kids want to spend any time w/ their father. It's their choice. They're old enough to have a choice.
"No, I've never thought that. Kids need to see real parents. People need to see real families".
She is so full of herself. Does she think she's the only one on the planet that is a "real parent" or has a "real family"?
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Kate and her show should come with a NC-17 rating. I am NOT kidding. Kate and her family situation are toxic and damaging to believe it normal on any level.
She's officially unhinged.
Kate GosselinVerified account @Kateplusmy8 1h1 hour ago
If you're wondering if we're having a 'Tweet Party' during #KatePlus8 premiere tonight 10/9c on @TLC .. The answer is OH MY HEAVENS, YES 🎉🎉
She's gotten exactly THREE RTs on this. Oh and 17 whole hearts! Yay Kate it's #SUPERFUN #TWEETPARTYNITE! I am LMAO over here.
She also reposted on IG the same TLC promo photo that she did last week. All 63 comments so far are fawning, of course.
Sorry if this has been posted.
Now the world knows the kids are "sad" about "new daddy"- linked on Yahoo;
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kate-gosselin-says-her-kids-144444427.html
Comments-
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BillyBob 15 minutes ago
When you selfishly rag on the other parent in front of the children, you're putting in in their heads that the father/mother is no good."
Yup, Billy Bob. Spot on.
Another comment:
"Yahoo Reader 25 minutes ago
You're kids are sad because of the absolute trainwreck you and Jon have made of their lives. Someday Kate and Jon will grow up, stop trying to use their kids for ratings, publicity or against each other. Unfortunately, by that time the mental state of their kids will be so horribly warped that their lives will be ruined (if they're not already)."
A very small fraction of the population doesn't have her number by now.
jamezvader1194 said... 162
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 25m25 minutes ago
@1380danie @Kateplusmy8 Not all the kids want to spend any time w/ their father. It's their choice. They're old enough to have a choice.
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At about the 3:31 minute mark, there is a preview of a scene showing an early morning van ride to school. The whole 'conversation' is awkward & it's painfully obvious that Kate is trying to maneuver the narrative on visitation:
Kate: Who's going to Daddy's..(slight hesitation)..next week?
Confused sounding Kid: Next week?
Kid: The usual
Kate: The usual?
Kid: Yep
Kate: Aaden, you're going next week as well?
Aaden: Yep
Kate: Ok. The usual four. Got it
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kate-gosselin-opens-son-collin-defends-parenting-style/story?id=43680543
Sue said... 148
I will be watching the DWTS finale tonight.
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Me too. I do find it kind of ironic that Kate's new episode is airing in the same time slot as the DWTS finale!
In regard, to DWTS, I'll be happy no matter who wins the Mirrorball Trophy. They all deserve it!!
Interesting. I wonder if TLC has decided to embrace the dysfunction after all. On their K8 FB page, they posted (five hrs ago) a link to an article on their dreadful TLCme site: "Kate Gosselin Speaks Out About Son Collin's Whereabouts."
Here's the opening line.
"We all know Kate Gosselin as a loving mother whose world revolves around taking care and spending time with her eight kids."
We? all? KNOW??? Are you f----ing kidding me? It's wonderful how they begin with that line. I, personally, don't know anything of the kind. I just know what you, TLC, have put out there. And far from Kate's life "revolving" around her children, it looks a lot more like her children's lives revolve around Kate (and TLC).
The rest is throwaway BS from other pieces, Jon's name is not even mentioned. There is not a single original quote from Kate to her home network, just the stuff she spewed at People and other tab outlets.
Then, two hours ago, we get a clip of Kate talking about "Life as a Single Parent." Does she ever talk about anything else? I mean, for real?
As for the comments (not too many), it's the usual assortment of diehards who bought the line about if she had a nursing job instead of TeeVee, ALL of her money would be spent on childcare. It wasn't true when she said it, and it's most definitely not true now. But she repeated it often enough over the years that people can now recite it right off the top of their heads: "Oh she can't work, all of her money would be spent on childcare." I don't even think that she originated that line---I think that's what TLC told her to say when people were asking, after Jon left the show, why she wasn't closing down the circus. Her only "talent" here is her exhaustive ability to repeat what she's told.
The dumbing-down of America is alive and well and being brought to you by TLC.
@1380danie @Kateplusmy8 Not all the kids want to spend any time w/ their father. It's their choice. They're old enough to have a choice.
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Actually, they're not old enough. Not by a long shot. You're old enough to make that decision when you are an adult. Certainly they can have input, but they need to have a good reason why they don't want to see him and even then courts will still weigh it.
In CA, as I've stated many times, it's illegal for a child to refuse visitation. It is up to the judge whether they will visit and if the judge decides they will not have visits, the judge needs to make a finding it is "detrimental" to their well being, a very high standard.
Finale of Dancing With The Stars tonight! Len's back! My absolute favorite is James the race car driver, he has worked so hard and it's amazing that he almost died in a serious wreck eighteen months ago. A piece of the cars suspension went thru his right thigh, his pelvis was fractured, he lost an enormous amount of blood, had multiple surgeries afterward... it's a miracle he is alive! And he is so very very good!
Laurie the gymnast is also excellent, perky, vivacious, so great! It's gonna be a fun show!
Rainbirdie said... 166
I didn't see this clip (and I'm not going to bother watching), but OMG, was she referring to He Who Shall Not Be Named?! On her TeeVee Show?? And if she doesn't say who's going to visit Old Daddy/New Daddy this weekend, how on earth do they know who which Daddy they're going to see?
You know that was deliberately thrown in there to try to make it look like visitation is treated "normally." That is surely not what those scenes look like when the cameras aren't there.
Rainbirdie (#166), thanks for posting that.
Yep, TFW is continuing to take the high road, by talking about personal, private family matters with her children while the cameras roll. Because, you know, kids
need to see real parents, and people need to see real families. What a disgusting, pathetic excuse for a mother she is.
@RainBirdie It appears she really is not trying to hide anything anymore,usually she never saids anything in regards to that about Jon.I wonder if its either desperate attempts to convince people that the kids would rather live with her and continue filming or if the belief that TLC cut her is true and this is her not giving a crap and directing all her anger at Jon and blaming him for the shows failure.
Hurry Kate, there's some negativity piercing your happy balloon over on IG. Get those kids to finish up that Blue Apron dinner and get your delete finger goin'.
delgadomarylou Kate is so fake!! I pity her children! She tosses Collin out like trash, her behavior towards her children is horrible! Her own family doesn't speak to her... I'm from about 6-8 miles from her... just not a good person... Sad...
And dear Milo is definitely trying to put a good face on the fact that Kate's gotten about 25 "fan" comments in the 2 hours since her #TweetParty announcement.
miloandjack2016 Nice to have you back on #Twitter...lots of waving ...#HeyKateSeeMe. LOL. How about a couple of #PupTweets from your #FurBabies? I know especially #Nanuq will be attentive? 😋 @kateplusmy8
Then, two hours ago, we get a clip of Kate talking about "Life as a Single Parent." Does she ever talk about anything else? I mean, for real?
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You know at the end of the day, she has no personality or a one-note personality. What do you think she talks about over the Thanksgiving table? She really has nothing else she seems to be interested in, no topics she likes to talk about. I can't even imagine. She doesn't even REALLY talk about her kids on any kind of deep level, it's very superficial when she does.
No, Kate, no. You don't ask the kids who is going. You take them. You are the adult, those are the court orders, you take them. You don't ask, you don't let them know this is optional.
IF the kids don't want to go, you go to your lawyer and ask for further instructions. WTF!
Tucker's Mom said... 139
I thought I posted a comment earlier about this, but maybe it was just in my head. I sincerely hope he has been given physiological tests along with everything else, because "shaken baby" syndrome is real, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he bears real and lasting scars from the beatings she inflicted on him as a toddler. If his doctors haven't looked at that, I hope they've at least been made aware of it.
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Jon would be the only person who could say, "Yeah, that's her diary, her writing and yes, she lost her temper with our children".
Could be why Jon is being kept away from Colin and his treatment at all costs.
The thing is, any competent professional treating a child with emotional and behavioral problems would insist on speaking to BOTH parents.
How can you take an accurate history without?
Now I have no doubt as to why Kate is keeping Jon in the dark.
For one, I'm leaning along with Admin and thinking this wasn't voluntary and for two, I think Kate is trying to keep her abuse as much of a secret as possible.
When and if Colin reveals abuse, all Kate has to do is deny or explain it away.
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IF Jon doesn't know where C is that is on him. Jon not seeing C, that is also on him. He can whine and act confused all he likes but until he gets off his ass and uses the rights he's been given nothing will change.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 172
Rainbirdie (#166), thanks for posting that.
Yep, TFW is continuing to take the high road, by talking about personal, private family matters with her children while the cameras roll. Because, you know, kids
need to see real parents, and people need to see real families.
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Yes, but do people need to see real PEOPLE? Because if that's a requirement, I don't think Kate makes the cut.
I think the scene (that was created) was a big scam to show that only the usual 4 go and stay with Jon and that the others DO NOT CHOOSE TO GO!
But it is a scam from the liar that lies! She is trying to pull the wool over people's eyes that they don't want to go and see their dad, and she feels like she doesn't want to push them, if they don't want to go.
Because she is such a good mom. BLECH!
Admin, just wanted to thank you and the pool girls, cabana boys, and any other assorted helpers, for following the fast and furious comments. Maybe you should nap to prepare for the next wave tonight!
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I would love to hear from everyone if you packed a OCC shoebox this year! Yesterday was the deadline. Our area 7 counties, packed 1700 more this year than last. Almost 38K. Not bad, at all!
The cards I wrote to the kids is a cute monkey hanging upside down and it says,
Hang in There!
On one of the cards, I wrote a letter to a young boy and told him that this box was in honor of a brave, young man named Collin G. I wrote for Collin and told the little boy that he hoped the little boy has fun with the soccer ball, flashlight and candy and all of the other things that were packed in the box.
I signed it, With love, Collin.
GollyGee (#181), I did pack a few boxes this year, and dropped them off Friday at a church that was collecting them near my house. I scored some great 90% off school supplies at CVS which I included -- Batman and Disney princess pens, pencils, post-its, and little notebooks for only a dime each!
And I got a huge bag of Double Bubble gum on Halloween clearance for only a dollar. The church was having a packing party the next day, so I left it for them to use in the boxes they were going to assemble.
What do you think she talks about over the Thanksgiving table?
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There's a Thanksgiving table? With all of her family and friends? Who would have thought it?
PA Dutch,
I really don't think Milo cares much about Kate's face, with or sans makeup. Her gaze goes a bit lower than that!
Finale of Dancing With The Stars tonight! Len's back! My absolute favorite is James the race car driver, he has worked so hard and it's amazing that he almost died in a serious wreck eighteen months ago. A piece of the cars suspension went thru his right thigh, his pelvis was fractured, he lost an enormous amount of blood, had multiple surgeries afterward... it's a miracle he is alive! And he is so very very good!
Laurie the gymnast is also excellent, perky, vivacious, so great! It's gonna be a fun show!
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Yes, Joy. I wish there could be two winners!
She's officially unhinged.
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Is that a polite way of saying she's just plain nuts?
Yes. In that one clip in the van when Kate asks who's going to see Daddy next week the kids were like Next week?? Like why are you asking us now? Because the cameras are recording. Duh.
Then when the kids reply "The usual," Kate replies with a very deliberate "Oh, the usual FOUR?" She obviously knew they meant the usual four, but she wanted the world to hear it. She was probably upset because when they rehearsed it in her mind they were supposed to reply "Just the four again! The rest of us want nothing to do with New Daddy!"
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I can hear Milo panting.
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LOL!! I think that LOM is in the kitchen, mopping up the drool. Poor hubs.
I won't be watching her 10 year review tonight. I think the last show I actually watched was the one with the pizza crisis outside the camper.
If we are the "mothers behind the computers" who dare to comment negatively on her parenting skills, then she called us all liars in the GMA clip.
Sorry Kate. I NEVER treated my (one) child with the lack of respect that you show to your children.
Swear. Not lying.
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