Beach Time!
Kate and the kids explore the Alabama beach shores during summer vacation! Kayaking, parasailing and a family Segway tour are in the mix and of course, there is always chaos! Then the Gosselins' head back home to train their adorable puppies. 60 Min. |
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Leslie (#199), hey, it's okay there weren't aunts, uncles and grandparents at this momentous occasion. They didn't know how to help Mom any more, so they were kicked to the curb. But Mom's hairdresser and cereal-buying stalker were there, and that's way better than people who've known you your whole life. Because Mom can still use them for stuff, and get rid of them later, and replace them with new shiny friends who can provide goods and services. It's the circle of life, narcissist-style.
BTW, when TFW tweeted that she couldn't wait for the hairdresser to visit them, you know she was thinking, "and give me and the girls a free blowout while you're here."
So I take it that this episode of Kate Plus 8 will not be considered for an Emmy Award?
"They thanked me for days, and days, and days afterward"
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Really? I highly doubt it.
Tucker's Mom, Gladys is lauding the G-rated party for the twins. Where was all her moral indignation when TFW got all glammed up for her bar date, drank before she even got there, had her foot licked by a stranger, and woke up hung over? All of which is preserved on film for her daughters to watch?
Not that any of that was utter debauchery, but, c'mon. That's why you had to laugh when TFW played coquette on her date with Vann, saying she didn't want to kiss him and have her kids watch it later. Maybe she would've been more comfortable if he'd just ripped her shoe off and slurped away.
So what happens when the tups turn 16? Do the 3 girls get a fancy party, while Brownie supervises the 16-year-old boys at a Lego table? Hopefully the show will be over long before then, so TFW won't care much what she does.
I would definitely say Jon made mistakes, but I wouldn't say he failed his kids.
Kate is diabolical in her quest for fame and money. Kate was empowered by TLC when she and Jon first separated. Jon made stupid mistakes that cost him his image which empowered Kate even more.
Kate is able to brainwash some of her children. She's able to alienate their father from him. Her finances gave her leverage that Jon didn't have when it came to lawyers and court fees.
Jon stopped the filming of husband children for as long as he could. Apparently the court is favoring the mother. He's apparently still trying. What he's up against we can only imagine. I don't think it's fair to say that he failed his children. Four of the children have been able to see their father through their own eyes instead of their mother's. Seeing him with the four kids tells us that he is doing his best for them. He didn't just choose four of the eight kids. I think the fact that TLC actually showed Kate asking the kids who is going to Daddy's proves Kate is controlling the situation.
He wants all eight kids during his custody but Kate is somehow controlling them in such a way that he isn't able to connect with them. Mady is brainwashed for sure. Cara seems lost. Mady probably brainwashes her along with Kate. We now know Collin has been isolated from everyone. Alexa is a mystery. I can't even image what the situation is there that she stays with Kate rather than go with Jon. I can't imagine the frustration Jon has been going through trying to see his kids legally. The system does not always work. Other than kidnapping his children and becoming a fugitive on the run he seems to be trying to fight for them.
Jon made mistakes that probably cost him more than he realized, but I think he always loved his children and just expected to be able to see them whenever he wanted and had custody. I don't think he realized just how diabolical Kate was until after the divorce.
CC (#10), thanks for your eloquent comment.
Guess TLC would not spring for a car for the twins, LOL. The John Deere Gator driving is humorous. The twins must have been embarrassed and from what I read, they managed to not drive it well, which was a set up because Kate just happened to have cones and they've driven the Gator before. Mady was pictured driving it with the tups in the bed. Yep, so so funny to have Mady drive over the cones.
Ooops. "Husband children" should be "his children." :D
So Ronnie/Ken, the "guncle," is the one responsible for the Goldilocks hair? And he's also the latest hanger-on to ingratiate himself with the kids. Interesting.
Wow, so it rained. You move the party to the basement where you can grill out under the covered patio. People are stupid to think the party wasn't planned for that other place in advance. Didn't someone say it seemed like it was filmed during the summer? They must have filmed the set up for the party on a rainy day so there would be an excuse to showcase Kate's quick skills in reorganizing the party, LOL.
The salmon thing I don't get. Poor editing? Change of menu apparently because you do not precook to grill salmon patties. Nothing but continuity issues all this season. And not everyone likes salmon so I would not serve that to a bunch of teens.
No tongue flicking this time?? Of course, I saw a photo where she was making her sad, crying face. The tongue flicking was involuntary but her crying face is fake, fake, fake. I've actually seen her truly emotional during a few interviews and she does not do that sad clown face.
I must admit, I am intrigued by the appearance of Brownie in last night's episode. How was this arranged? Kate's been ignoring her on Twitter for at least four years. And why do I suspect that Brownie's utility to Kate might lie in a future ghostwriting assignment. She could be the next Beth. What a weirdo.
"They thanked me for days, and days, and days afterward"
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Really? I highly doubt it.
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First of all I also doubt they said that. But this is another thing where even if they did, I don't find it healthy. Why, if they did say this, do they have a need to shower Kate with overwhelming gratitude? Do they feel she needs the emotional boost? Do they fear if they don't exaggerate she will find them ungrateful? If your kids are saying that day after day, at a certain point a good parent will say honey I know you are thankful for the party, I appreciate it, but you don't need to thank me more than once. I did it because I love you, you are thanks enough.
I also am scratching my head over serving salmon burgers to teens. You're lucky if half of them even want to try it. I don't have a problem with putting something unique out there, but give them options. Do a salmon, veggie, and regular burger, and chances are almost everyone will find something to eat they like. This is basic party planning that someone who has all day to percolate about this should know.
The kids are +/- 16. What parent would allow drinking? C'mon.
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Snorted my orange juice.
Another reason I don't believe Milo is a parent. She hears some news story about a wild teen party and thinks that's the norm.
My god, of COURSE there was no drinking and wild partying at a SIXTEEN YEAR OLD'S birthday party, not with mom there at least! If any of that goes on after the parents' party, a 16 year old makes sure the parents don't find out.
This reminds me of Chris Rock's hilarious standup. He's talking about African Americans, but he jokes about how black men brag they support their kid, or haven't been to jail. He's like you're SUPPOSED to support your kid, you're SUPPOSED to stay out of jail!!!
Milo is bragging that Kate didn't let her kids drink or have a wild party. That's what she's SUPPOSED to do. Geez!
My favorite part was when Kate looked directly at the camera (when she was all stressed out) and said something to the effect of 'contrary to popular belief, I have NO help, no cleaning lady, no babysitter, it's just me!' Oh, ok Kate, then why do you have friggen notes EVERYWHERE, including on your washing machine that says to not remove Kate's clothes from the machine. If it was for the kids wouldn't you refer to yourself as mom, not Kate?
Another major editing mistake was all of the prep was supposedly done on party day. Yet she had several changes of clothes. First whatever she was wearing early during her first freakout. Then she changed to go over to the venue. Then back at the house to finish up before party time she had another different shirt on and finally the dress she wore to the party. Obviously no one cares to cover these obvious errors.
Also, she claims on party day she made the arrangements to move the party, thus excluding the little ones. Yet she had time to call the ice cream truck to come out and have a little thing with the little kids and arrange for a babysitter (wait Kate, didn't you say you didn't have a babysitter?) to come, fully equipped with craft projects for them to make for the girls as presents? Boy talk about someone who can get things done! *snark*
The parentification was running rampant in this episode! Yes there were lots of Kate-Mady hugs but they were all instigated by Kate. Mady was not running over to mommy hugging her. Mady would hug Kate back as she was having to coddle her mother who kept crying and acting like she was shipping the girls overseas, never to be seen again. *eyeroll*
The girls did seem to enjoy themselves once the party started but that's because they were with their friends. Oh and who the heck wants to go to a party and watch 2 friggin dvd's of baby videos? Even the girls said they'd wished she'd included footage of when they were like 3, lol. Of course anything after 3 is documented by TLC. But how boring to watch for the party goers. Yawn.
No, he didn't.
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Yes, he did.
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It's really up to the kids to decide one day who failed them, and who did not.
Admin (#16), I'd say a big part of TFW needing to say how much the girls thanked her is a big ol' F-U to Jon. Plain and simple.
Remember, she's 12.
Milo does not have kids. No parent would even think of serving alcohol to underage kids. It's illegal. Why such a ridiculous comment? Only a person who hasn't a clue would say that. Also the mention of provocative dancing...sounds like a male's comment.
And that photo Milo posted? Totally not her/him. Milo has gone to great lengths to remain anonymous in her postings of photos, so why such a reveal? I'm with Admin that Milo is a catfish. Milo wanted to prove she is a mother and that tells me Milo is not.
Thinking back a few years when Brownlow was very active on Kate's Twitter. I remember her running a website for teens and preteens and trying VERY hard to ingratiate herself to Kate. Almost begging for attention to the point of running to stores and buying groceries for her. And there was an incident with a child molester who was somehow involved with her website? Am I remembering correctly? There were non fans who discovered this and made it known. Brownlow disappeared soon after.
The provocative dancing comment is even weirder. Who is thinking about 16 year old girls provocatively dancing? Huh? Why would this thought even enter your mind at some juvenile birthday party with other immature 16 year olds? They're not turning tricks on Hollywood and Vine with all the other runaway 16 year old drug addicts. My God.
Again, she watches the news, and thinks she has a clue how the average 16 year old is.
I think Milo is full blooded female, but a lesbian.
From K8's FB:
XXXXX Wow ! I have no idea how you think this woman is a good mom. Her kids are a reflection of her and by watching this show you can see how they act even knowing there on tv can' t stop them from there rude bratty behavior! I have 5 kids all grown up now not one would talk to an adult or anyone that way . I taught them respect and how to behave. I didn't have to scream or buy them anything they wanted ! We had little to none as they grew up but I gave them the tools they neededneeds to be a responsible and loving adults! And the kids don't know she's a great mom because she's not that's reason her own kids do nothing but criticize her!!!! They have no respect for her at all just as she had none for her husband or anyone for that matter! Action reflects leadership!
XXXXX You do realize it's edited for ratings- you aren't seeing the real family don't you?
And that's it in a nutshell: You don't think you're seeing the REAL family, do you? The hat trick is complete, the "realest reality" is now accepted by viewers as not real at all, but that's okay, it's entertainment!
I've said it before, but it bears repeating: The kids should really be SAG members and receiving the benefits associated with being in a union, not the crumbs that TLC and their mother deign to throw them.
Jane,
Hmmm. Wasn't she friends with a convicted pedophile?
What's the back story here? Was Kate letting this creepy Brownie fan around her CHILDREN? Poor judgement.
Jane (#23), I think you've got Brownie's history remembered correctly! And Sad but true (#16), you might be right about this. Perhaps TFW wants the twins to publish some kind of teenybopper advice book, and would have Brownie ghostwrite it for a cut of the profits. Stay tuned!
Admin (#25), and you've gotta know Gladys is peanut butter and jealous that yet another fan (after Emily) has made it to TFW's inner circle. Yet she's turned down many opportunities to meet her idol in person. There's something more than meets the eye with that woman.
CC said... 26
Jane,
Hmmm. Wasn't she friends with a convicted pedophile?
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Was that it? I'm not remembering how it was discovered... I seem to remember her website was somehow involved. Maybe one of the other old timers has more info.
Jane said... 23
I'm not sure the guy was involved with her website, but he might have been someone who was involved with a youth program of some kind that she promoted. And she posted a photo or write-up on her site of an activity that her group did with him or his group. From there, someone discovered that the guy was being indicted for child molestation. And that's when she took everything on that site down and closed up shop. I can't remember the name of the group, but I think it included butterflies (lol).
Maybe she's got another teen-girl group going now. I do know that since that incident, she has churned out at least 4 or 5 of these young adult/teen angst-type paperbacks. Here's her bio from Amazon:
Biography
VOTED one of the TOP 25 DEBUT AUTHORS of 2013
Michelle Kemper Brownlow likes her music loud and prefers live concerts but will happily settle for the eclectic playlists on her iPhone. This Penn State grad and former high school art teacher is easily distracted by colorful art supplies and Eddie Vedder's voice. When she's not in her studio writing, she can be found putting off housework for a good romance novel that has her heart pounding and tears flowing. She is married to her very own "Jake" and is mom to three fantastic humans, a black lab and a Chinchilla named Wodney.
My debut series was complete June 10, 2014 when ABOVE THE NOISE was published.
So Kate doesn't know how to check the weather for her area? Yeah, right.
You can do a 5 day forecast, 3 day forecast, next day forecast. It gives you the "percentage" chance of rain and even for each hour of the next 24 hours. I can't believe she expects her fans to believe she didn't know it was going to rain. Although a lot of them are stupid, so maybe.
Kris (#19), thanks for the rundown on some of the ridiculousness that ensued on the episode! Yes, I'm sure it's easy-breezy to schedule a last-minute ice cream truck in PA in October! And how lucky Brownie happened to be free, and with plenty of glue guns in her glove compartment!
I'm assuming when TFW said she has no help, she wasn't struck by lightning. How many different versions of that have we heard over the years? I'd love to see a compilation of clips and tweets. She's one crazy salmonburger.
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Jane said... 23
I'm not sure the guy was involved with her website, but he might have been someone who was involved with a youth program of some kind that she promoted. And she posted a photo or write-up on her site of an activity that her group did with him or his group. From there, someone discovered that the guy was being indicted for child molestation. And that's when she took everything on that site down and closed up shop. I can't remember the name of the group, but I think it included butterflies (lol).
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Yeah, this sounds familiar. I remember being horrified at the connection between a pedophile and the "work" she did with kids and thinking about the Gosselin kids and their unaware and uncaring mother and that no good would come of any friendship with Brownlow. That was years ago and we've come full circle.
Tucker's Mom said... 4
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m6 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Very #Classy party. No drinking, wild partying, dancing provocatively... You set the bar high as always for your kids!
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The kids are +/- 16. What parent would allow drinking? C'mon. Like Kate is some maverick for having an alcohol-free party for 16 year olds.
Jeez. Set the bar any lower?
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She must have attended some real doozy of Sweet 16's...
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Such a shame the big surprise was some hairdresser. Too bad the twins couldn't have been reunited with some family.
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That would have been a wonderful opportunity to re-introduce their Aunts, Uncle, maybe even Grandparents.
But instead, the girls "special guest" for their Sweet 16 was their mother's hair dresser. Hmmmm.
What happened? Kate's nail technician wasn't available?, Or her gynecologist, the tech from her last mammography, the tups doctor, or their orthodontist? And where the hell was Kate's yoga instructor, and the fine folks at her tanning salon?
It's hard to find people willing to be a part of this farce...
CC (#32), and yet TFW's very BRAND is being prepared and organized! Whatever was shown last night blows that myth to smithereens. Unless every bit of it was done in a calculated way, to create drama. In which case, she's just a lying liar who lies, and manipulated her daughter's once-in-a-lifetime celebration for the sake of a TV network. Either way, it's a big lose-lose for Schmoopie.
Wait? The babysitter/art/craft lady was Brownie? Stale-cereal lady? Didn't she go off the deep end a while back and shut down her website, etc? That's who Kate hired?
I'm pretty sure this is the man she was associated with:
http://www.pottsmerc.com/general-news/20131127/honey-brook-man-charged-with-child-pornography
He was from Honey Brook, Chester County. She ran a bunch of girls empowerment type workshops. Her website or something showed that he knew her, either comments, or pics or something. It may have been through their church, I don't remember. In all fairness, she was friends with him before he was charged.
Kris (#37), you silly goose, TFW didn't have to hire Brownie. She got paid by TLC for being on camera, and had the high and amazing-ish honor of being a part of a G family celebration. My guess is TFW's wallet was taped shut for this entire event.
Milo's thinking of the parties teens go to BEHIND their parent's back, when they are out-of-town (LOL), not the ones hosted by their parents. Although there are some stupid parents who let their kids have parties with alcohol at home because they "know they would do it anyway"
@Admin Is it me or does Milo comments seem desperate?Like,she sounds desperate for proof that the kids love their mother to the point where a kid hugging her is enough to make Gladys go tweet"OMG YOUR KIDS HUGGED YOU.THIS PROVES HATERS WRONG AND YOUR KIDS REALLY LOVE YOU."I would not be surprised if Milo saw a kid arguing with Jon that she would use that as proof they hate their father.
You know who could've taken the tups off TFW's hands for the day without any muss or fuss or drama? Their father. But then that wouldn't have made for enough suspense, would it?
Wow. What a disaster of a show. And not just TFW. The production was just sloppy, throw it together, who cares if it makes any sense. Production-wise, it really couldn't have been any worse.
It looked like it was put together by a 3 year old.
kris said... 37
Wait? The babysitter/art/craft lady was Brownie? Stale-cereal lady? Didn't she go off the deep end a while back and shut down her website, etc? That's who Kate hired?
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Yes, the kids called her Mrs. Brownlow, she looks just like the pics of her, and she tweeted about watching herself on TV
So Alexis hit Aaden in the face and gave him a nosebleed? She said "then I whacked him and his nose started bleeding."
Hannah also said they do all of Mady and Cara's chores.
And apparently it's common knowledge that the younger girls are really mean, and the only boy they are nice to is Aaden. How is that okay?
That was just incredibly painful to watch.
I actually felt bad for Mady...she was trying so hard to have herself a good time in spite of her whacked mother, tv camera crews, a sister who wouldn't connect on any level.
I hope they had a separate party which was private. The televised one was horrible. I sure wouldn't be thanking my mom for that one.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 39
My guess is TFW's wallet was taped shut for this entire event.
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You got that right! lol
Notice the hairdresser's body language when he entered the party room.
He was hunched down, like he was embarrassed. And he should be embarrassed. How awkward to be invited to a party with a gaggle of 16 year old girls. As an adult male.
That was exceedingly weird.
Re Brownlow, everything's archived on Blogger. It was The Butterly Girlz website. I found a more recent blog (she's definitely in the Mommy Blogger vein), but they now seem to be there to promote her books.
@Localyocul But Milo makes it seem like Kate would be stupid enough to show the world a party like that on national television mind you.Does she really think Kate would show the world her teens drinking alcohol and dancing provocatively?Does she not realize how much backlash Kate would get if that happened?Hell she would pretty much give Jon more ammo to the judge about her poor parenting.Like i said,milo is desperate to prove that Kate's a good mother that she'd take anything Kate does on the episode and use it as proof.
I don't see what all the fuss about 'decorating' was.
Looked like they had some tablecloths, flowers in vases, cake that went with the sunflower theme...and not much else. All the stuff one usually has at a party, nothing unique. I don't get it.
And I can't imagine as a guest having to sit through "an hour or more" of child videos.
Yawn.
The guests didn't look very engaged either. They just kind of stood around, not talking to the twins or each other. I had the impression that the guests didn't know each other.
I wonder if most of them were hired.
Recap soon, please!
I did not ever follow the Brownie thing but once again it appears Aunt Deanna has been tossed aside for a new hairdresser just like Beth was tossed aside as a ghostwriter. I would think Jon would be concerned Kate allows a Twitter fan to ingratiate herself inside the family. I mean, who in their right mind does this kind of thing?
Forget about the twins or just Mady writing a book with the help of a ghostwriter! Kate believes she is a best selling author, LOL. I foresee a book coming out about raising EIGHT teenagers. You watch. Now Brownie can be sucked into Kate's narcissist world and then kicked to the curb when the publishing company writes a check. It makes sense if the show is on TLC's chopping block. Kate has to keep her face out there. Hell, there's no doubt she contacted Brownie months with an offer.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 42
Yes, the obvious choice. Amazing, isn't it, how simple the solution really is?
When they first got the gator, didn't we see Mady driving the gator pretty fast across the yard, with the younger children piled in the back of it?
If they wanted to show us a driving lesson, why not use one of TFW's three cars?
Who knows if the twins had a private birthday party or not? Excellent chance that party was not filmed on their birthday. That's the way TLC has always done their special days and holidays.
I feel for Cara. So humiliating. What is going on if she still participates in filming but it's obvious she intensely dislikes it? It's a question Jon should be asking because there must be intimidation of some type. Most normal 16 year olds would just say NO and that would be it. Why and how is this kid being forced?
I was actually embarrassed for the twins.
That was the most pathetic party.
A random bunch of kids, who didn't appear to know each other. They didn't even appear to be friends with the twins all that much.
They didn't appear to be into the party all that much either. They just stood around with stunned looks on their faces as TFW ranted about god knows what and the twins shouted back at her.
You could almost feel the kid guests thinking...holy sh*t! I could never talk to my parent like that! I've never seen anything like this! This is horrible to watch, not fun. I don't even want to see this. I had no idea their life was like this! Get me out of here!
And their mom who couldn't even stay out of it. She had to join in like she was one of them.
Most parents would fade into the background for the kid party. Let them do their thing. The parent might be more visible at the family party...you know, the one with aunts, uncles, cousins. But this wasn't the family party. This was the kid party.
And then that stupid hair dresser shows up. Can you get any more awkward than that???
I am trying to figure out why the twins would thank TFW for days and days and days. I watched some clips and the party did not appear to be anything special. It seemed to be, dare I say, mediocre. The girls would have had more fun if the adults weren't there watching them. I hope they had another real party that wasn't filmed.
Localyocul (#44), Brownie was only called Mrs. Brownlow because she's female. If she was a dude, TFW would've called him Mr. Crafty Man. Of course, she's been the Cereal Lady here for years!
Mel said... 51
And I can't imagine as a guest having to sit through "an hour or more" of child videos.
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An HOUR? Seriously? Was Jon seen/heard in any of the clips or was he expunged from everything?
Driving the Gator is incredibly babyish. The girls could have practiced with Kate's small real car (Audi?) in the driveway without a learner's permit even. Good point, Mel.
The clip they showed of Guncle Ronnie, Mady basically threw herself into his arms. Really? I'm sure she knows what being gay is all about, but that looked to me like she has a major crush on this guy. Once again, how inappropriate.
Ah, Julie's starting to get the picture.
Julie Patel @JuliePatel3 2m2 minutes ago
@pinkcell114 @Kateplusmy8 @TLC He's in the last episode because it's "family game night", otherwise, he wouldn't be there. Poor guy,
Mel (#56), and the reason some of the guests probably looked shell-shocked is because there was a g.d. FILM CREW over their shoulders the entire time! TFW may pretend to "forget cameras often!," but your average person isn't really jazzed to have that kind of intrusion in a social setting.
It's one thing if it was just a bunch of kids goofing around at a party, and one of them was running around with a Go Pro getting silly comments. But to have a TLC camera person and a light person and a boom mike person and a director and several production assistants -- all huddled into your party space? Hoping you'll act natural? Sounds like a fun killer to me.
Most normal 16 year olds would just say NO and that would be it. Why and how is this kid being forced?
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Why and how? They've been brainwashed to believe that "All this will go away if we don't film." The kids are human. They like their house, school and perks (vacations). Didn't Mady once say that when they weren't filming they just sat around and stared at the walls.
Did Michelle Kemper Brownlow did a credit line for being on the show?
And why do I suspect that Brownie's utility to Kate might lie in a future ghostwriting assignment. She could be the next Beth.
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Bingo! I remember a few years ago Kate was talking about writing some book about kids (I think) and I even posted here that I thought she was going to team up with Brownie. Brownie is now a writer herself. So perhaps they will team up. With Kate's dismal book sales of her last TWO books who would publish it.
Get this: Brownie posted a few years ago that she wanted to pitch a new reality show with Kate, herself and their kids. Can you believe this. Scroll down to "Kate Gosselin and I crafting together". Yes, Michelle Brownlow is a real nut when it comes to her praise about Kate.
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http://michellekemperbrownlowwrites4kids.blogspot.com/search?q=kate+gosselin
I wonder why Deanna and Jamie weren't there?
We were right -- the fans are already buying into the fakery with C appearing in the final episode. Will TFW dare contradict them?
How awful of her, and TLC, to use that poor boys as a pawn in their game.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/kate-gosselin-tractor-kids-danger/
Yes, she drove the gator, and at a bit of a speed it looks. Such BS
They've had the Gator for 2 years and we're to believe the twins don't ever drive it? GMAB. Then who is driving it? I would think the twins would use it quite a bit while having friends over, just to get away from the house, take a couple of buddies down on another part of the property to hang out, take pictures, whatever. If it was bought FOR the kids as a birthday gift, why don't they drive it?
Admin 18 said.....Another reason I don't believe Milo is a parent. She hears some news story about a wild teen party and thinks that's the norm.
My god, of COURSE there was no drinking and wild partying at a SIXTEEN YEAR OLD'S birthday party, not with mom there at least! If any of that goes on after the parents' party, a 16 year old makes sure the parents don't find out.
Admin 24 said.....The provocative dancing comment is even weirder. Who is thinking about 16 year old girls provocatively dancing? Huh? Why would this thought even enter your mind at some juvenile birthday party with other immature 16 year olds? They're not turning tricks on Hollywood and Vine with all the other runaway 16 year old drug addicts. My God.
Again, she watches the news, and thinks she has a clue how the average 16 year old is.
I think Milo is full blooded female, but a lesbian.
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Ok, I had to spit out my OJ. If you don't believe that this goes on a lot with today's 16 <>, then you are fooling yourself. Sometimes I wonder if some of the posters here, have or know, that many kids around the ages of the Gosselin kids. Times have changed my friends since we were kids. Shockingly many parents feel "well, if it stays in my house, they'll be ok." I don't agree with it.
NJGal51 said... 64
. . . Didn't Mady once say that when they weren't filming they just sat around and stared at the walls.
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That was a DIRECT quote from Kate, who said in either earlier in some episode (I think when Jon was still on) or in an interview. And I'm sure Mady's heard it many many times growing up.
She said she wrote that blog post in jest back in 2009 but she is definitely a Kate sheeple. I vote instead for Kate USING HER to ghostwrite a book because Kate CANNOT write, let alone speak coherently. I think Brownie may be too busy with her writing career to invest any time in a reality show. Now that she has entangled herself with Kate, give it a few years before she will disappear too.
Stupid fans think Collin will be back for the finale. If he is there, it was filmed in the spring. He ain't home, people.
Read Facebook comments regarding the show. Overwhelming majority are disgusted with Kate and Mady and many changed the channel. Normal moms don't act like a psycho and daughters do not roll eyes and talk rude to adults. I don't know why TLC and Kate have taken the crazy train with this show.
What does she mean when she said "this is why we don't do parties (pause, long pause) for them"?
She must have meant this is why we (and who is "we" anyway?) don't do parties where I have do the work. Cuz I ain't gonna be caught dead doing any work.
As in, usually the extravagant parties are put on by production. I just have to show up and pretend like I did it all, by myself.
I watched the documentary Grey Gardens on TV the other day, and I could totally see that happening with Kate and Mady. Cara seems really to fly the coop right now, but Mady...well, Mady has always said she wants to be on TV, she wants to "perform", etc. As long as the cameras are at Mommy's house, then that's where she'll stay. And, just like Little Edie, she'll need to take care of poor, abandoned Mommy. Eventually they end up hunkered down in their decaying mansion, resenting all the opportunities they think they missed. Sounds mean to say it, but it would not surprise me.
Jamesvader1194 is right--if the girls and their guests were drinking or partying or "dancing provocatively" would they really do it in from of the cameras? Umm, the answer would be no. Who knows what went on after the crew left, but it's just stupid to think that they would act that way in front of the cameras.
It was actually supposed to be a gift for the tups' 10th (11th?) b'day. But the mfgr says it's not supposed to be driven by anyone under 16.
Ratings will be delayed until tomorrow.
Don't expect ratings to be out until tomorrow due to the holiday. I am really curious about how this episode did. I always expected this to be the lowest rated of the season. We'll see.
kris said... 19
My favorite part was when Kate looked directly at the camera (when she was all stressed out) and said something to the effect of 'contrary to popular belief, I have NO help, no cleaning lady, no babysitter, it's just me!' Oh, ok Kate, then why do you have friggen notes EVERYWHERE,
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I think Kate considers it truthful because she doesn't employ full-time staff. Or, she doesn't have that staff position filled *at the moment*.
But she's got tons of help.
Who mows the grass? Maintains the pool season in and season out?
Ok, I had to spit out my OJ. If you don't believe that this goes on a lot with today's 16 <>, then you are fooling yourself. Sometimes I wonder if some of the posters here, have or know, that many kids around the ages of the Gosselin kids. Times have changed my friends since we were kids. Shockingly many parents feel "well, if it stays in my house, they'll be ok." I don't agree with it.
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Spit all you want, but I've never known a single parent in my entire life who serves alcohol at a 16 year old's birthday party especially with other people's children there. That's just outrageous. You've got to be joking. That's not to say it's never happened but it's not the norm and out here you get arrested for such a thing. You just don't do that. Now, 19-20 year olds MAYBE if you know they'll do it anyway and you'd rather they be safe under your watch, but 16 is insane. Those other parents should have her thrown in jail if she even dreamt of it. I'd throw a fit.
The bigger point is Milo is falling all over herself to praise Kate for what she is supposeddddd to do as a responsible parent. That's just stupid.
Another major editing mistake was all of the prep was supposedly done on party day. Yet she had several changes of clothes. First whatever she was wearing early during her first freakout
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If she was soooo behind in her list of things to do, how did the Starbucks get on the counter?
After St. Tony, who delivers The Queen her vanilla latte?
Well, from reading all your reviews, the twin's Sweet 16 celebration was kinda crappy.
With all the damn money Kate has, she could not have put together a nicer party for the girls? A Dj? Invited relatives, swallowed her pride, and invited their father?
Which would have been a good opportunity to arrange a special Father-Daughter dance? Instead, she arranged for the hairdresser to be the special guest...
Ah, who cares?
This is Katie Irene we're talking about- and it's HER life, Her daughters, HER Sweet 16- OOPS!
I'm mean C--- & M-----'s Sweet 16.
@Admin Plus like i said,it would be both stupid and disgusting of Kate to do it in front of the cameras,showing the world 16 year olds drinking and provocatively dancing on T.V.She would receive alot of backlash from people.
Tucker's Mom (#81), and maybe TFW would've had plenty of extra time to do things if she hadn't sold her soul, as well as her children's souls, to a TV network, who probably showed up at her house at the crack of dawn for filming and got in her way all day. She probably wanted to tell the crew, "Stop playing we're making a TV show, and start editing these DVD's I'm going to pretend I made myself! And would it kill you to fry up some salmon while you're just standing around?"
Layla said... 75
I watched the documentary Grey Gardens on TV the other day, and I could totally see that happening with Kate and Mady. Cara seems really to fly the coop right now, but Mady...well, Mady has always said she wants to be on TV, she wants to "perform", etc. As long as the cameras are at Mommy's house, then that's where she'll stay. And, just like Little Edie, she'll need to take care of poor, abandoned Mommy. Eventually they end up hunkered down in their decaying mansion, resenting all the opportunities they think they missed. Sounds mean to say it, but it would not surprise me.
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OMG! I LOVE the Beales and the movie-
and I can totally imagine
Kate living her life like big Edie, and M---- becoming another little Edie.
M------ is another staunch character!
It's really up to the kids to decide one day who failed them, and who did not.
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Much division in in the kids' futures. Lines in the sand have been drawn.
I truly think Jon made a YUGE mistake when he underestimated Katie Irene.
BIG.
YUGE.
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Absolutely, a parent would be arrested - it happens. However, kids sneak in their own "stuff". That does happen! I have heard of many of Sweet 16 parties were there has been bag checks, many parties where the parents are in the house but not hovering over the kids. Hey, I praise ANY parent who held an alcohol/drug free party these days. Times have seriously changed. Kids are smart and sneaky. Say what you may, but it definitely happens more than you think it does.
My favorite part was when Kate looked directly at the camera (when she was all stressed out) and said something to the effect of 'contrary to popular belief, I have NO help, no cleaning lady, no babysitter, it's just me!
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Didn't Kate say that she had that young girl (babysitter) for the summer? That babysitter, whose name I can't recall, went on several trips with the Gosselins. And Kate made mention that she was going to lose her after having her all summer. Does anybody else remember that?
! And how lucky Brownie happened to be free, and with plenty of glue guns in her glove compartment!
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Haaa!
Have glue guns, will travel!!
Oh, c'mon, ladies! You know we're all at the ready to entertain a brood of kids at a moment's notice!
James, of course Milo's tweets sound desperate. A lot of her tweets always sound that way. Milo is always asking Kate questions in her tweets about the kids. She comes off as a stalker.
It's hard to find people willing to be a part of this farce...
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What a coinkydink that this hairdresser Guncle gets a cameo and a few shout outs from Kate when his salon owner just recently closed up shop.
Nice free advertising!
Can we safely assume that Deanna doesn't know how to help Kate anymore?
Comments are coming fast and furious this morning - I can barely keep up. Couple of points: 1. Kate kept asking Mady if she liked something when they were shopping online and at the party store because she knew TLC would pay for it. She squealed and clapped her hands like a three year-old when they found the lighted letters - I bet she through a K in there along with the M & C. 2. Kate was drinking wine at the party so Milo's theory is out the window. Nothing wrong with adults having wine at a kids party but it was there. 3. Continuity was way off as everyone has said. Pink shirt and greasy hair during the panic scene. Clean hair and grey shirt when they were "decorating" the restaurant (what decorating? Table cloths, placemats and napkin rings - big f'in deal. And I'm sure that one of the kids at the part asked Mady to decorate her room - yeah, sure) then back to greasy hair and pink shirt for more freak outs. The freak out had to be filmed on another day - probably after the party. 4. Why should the kids thank Kate profusely for the party? They (Mady) planned it, TLC paid for it - all Kate did was make lousy pre cooked salmon patties and the restaurant provided the other platters of food. My head is going to explode.
Ok, I had to spit out my OJ. If you don't believe that this goes on a lot with today's 16 <>, then you are fooling yourself. Sometimes I wonder if some of the posters here, have or know, that many kids around the ages of the Gosselin kids. Times have changed my friends since we were kids. Shockingly many parents feel "well, if it stays in my house, they'll be ok." I don't agree with it.
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Uh, that sounds quite trashy to me. Not to mention that the party was being FILMED for the public to view. Does Milo really think that was an option anyway? If any parents are serving alcohol to 16-year-olds and promoting suggestive dancing, I gather the parents are trash. Who wants their kids hanging out with trash like that?
Kids sneaking alcohol is a different story, but that's not what Milo suggested. She was proud that Kate didn't throw one of those "wild" Sweet 16 parties. LOL. Maybe she expected it to be like Kate's, complete with alcohol, foot licking, and hangovers.
Maybe not for a sweet 16 but yes I know classmates of my 20 year old daughter who had alcohol at home for the kids and their friends. I was shocked. Or they parents bought alcohol for them to take on senior week. C'mon there have been parents arrested for this. Also, when my kid was in middle school I heard parents behind us talking about their not much older kids and letting them and their friends drink at home because "they will do it anyway and at least they are safe". I was floored. And, it seems to happen more with the affluent kids.
. Why and how is this kid being forced?
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My thought, too. It's beyond obvious by now that Cara is giving the silent F-U to filming and maybe even her mother. It's beyond obvious this isn't shyness, but a silent protest which is the only thing in her power to do.
And I'll bet it pisses Kate off to see Cara's obvious disdain for filming in the episodes.
It's like Cara's saying, "You might make me film, but you can't make me speak if I don't want to".
Yes, I also wonder what Kate does to make Cara get in front of the cameras and sit on the couch. Clearly, she does not want to be there.
Did anyone notice that the recipe she was searching for looked a bit like one you would get from blue apron?
Most parents would fade into the background for the kid party. Let them do their thing.
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I think Kate is socially clumsy and has difficulty around other adults. She'd rather insert herself into what the children are doing than try to mingle, converse or interact on any level.
. The girls would have had more fun if the adults weren't there watching them. I hope they had another real party that wasn't filmed.
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Exactly- let the twins and friends have the basement while the adults say upstairs.
Sad but true said... 62
Ah, Julie's starting to get the picture.
Julie Patel @JuliePatel3 2m2 minutes ago
@pinkcell114 @Kateplusmy8 @TLC He's in the last episode because it's "family game night", otherwise, he wouldn't be there. Poor guy,
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yes, I noticed a couple Tweets were insightful. Eyes wide shut no more!
but your average person isn't really jazzed to have that kind of intrusion in a social setting.
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I often have wondered if some friends don't come to these filmed-for-lining-Kate's-pocket parties because their parents object to either the filming of children for money and public consumption, or having to sign legal forms to do so, or both.
The twins have been tooling around on the Gator, all over the place, for years now. IIRC, Kate let one of the boys ride it while she watched from afar.
Kate just needed to address the subject of the twins driving, knowing it's a talking point she can't avoid. She has no intention of teaching them (or allowing a license), so she set up a filming vignette showing some sort of driving lesson.
Sounds like it was laughable.
Layla said... 75
I watched the documentary Grey Gardens on TV the other day,
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I always think Grey Gardens when I think about Kate and her compound!
Birthday parties for toddlers are more fun than that 16th party. Big deal, table cloths, vases with flowers, buffet food service, and my oh my a boring collage of their life up until now for over an hour....that is worse than people's vacation slides. It did not appear that there was any music or entertainment at all.
https://www.google.com/search?q=mady+gosselin+driving+gator&espv=2&biw=1277&bih=648&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiRkIjEjKnRAhVDwVQKHaw_DoYQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=_udsL9BT3nKd6M%3A
Here's Mady driving the Gator, flying across the compound with 4, count 'em, 4 KIDS in the payload.
John Deere clearly states that no one under 16 should drive the Gator, and children should NEVER ride in back. NEVER.
You can also Google pics of the boys driving the Gator alone.
Philly 4 for 4 said... 87
Admin 80...
Absolutely, a parent would be arrested - it happens. However, kids sneak in their own "stuff". That does happen! I have heard of many of Sweet 16 parties were there has been bag checks, many parties where the parents are in the house but not hovering over the kids. Hey, I praise ANY parent who held an alcohol/drug free party these days. Times have seriously changed. Kids are smart and sneaky. Say what you may, but it definitely happens more than you think it does.
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Yes, it sure does! But I think the fawning that Milo does over Kate, being impressed that what she sees (highly edited) is kids not drinking and twerking, is ridiculous.
These kids are having a party in a fishbowl. Of course there's no booze/pills/funny cigarettes!
I actually think Kate is pretty clueless when it comes to what kids her kids ages are capable of ;-)
Tucker's Mom said... 100
I often have wondered if some friends don't come to these filmed-for-lining-Kate's-pocket parties because their parents object to either the filming of children for money and public consumption, or having to sign legal forms to do so, or both.
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I agree. Most likely many parents do not approve of filming their kids and don't want to be on the sh*t show of KatePlus8 or KatePlus7. 2 years it will be KatePlus5
when the twins go away to college/or run for their lives at 18.
It would be nice if TLC finally put this crap fest to bed. One can hope.
Foxy (#103), was there at least any musical accompaniment to the DVD of the baby footage? If not, it sounds deadly dull!
I noticed Mady said she doesn't need a license because she doesn't go anywhere but to school. Cara said she doesn't need one because she only goes to lacrosse and wouldn't be allowed to drive there anyway.
So the "driving" was just part of a storyline for the show. It's kind of sad that the kids have no desire to get their license. And kids should learn early even if you don't want them driving. The earlier you learn the better driver you are later on. And I mean take lessons and drive with a responsible adult. I don't mean so you can drive around just to drive around.
Mady also said she will never drive a car with Kate in it.
Those kids obviously love their mother because she's their mother, but they clearly can't stand her. All they all do is bash her. They have NO respect for her either. Even the boys talk bad about her, although they are more polite about it and only when asked by the crew specifically it seems.
I think Cara does as much of the show as she does because Mady wants her to. She and Mady are close and I'm sure Mady wants her there even if it's just to have her there. I think Mady is a big influence on what Cara does or doesn't do.
I just wanted to say that I watched the show last night and it was ridiculous. I kept wanting to change the channel but never did, I also was sort of hoping it would get better, but it didn’t. I leave my tv on while I fall asleep and I was still waiting for it to happen so her show came on again but this time I wasn’t watching just listening and one of the things I notice (which when watching I saw and heard it but didn’t connect fully until just listening…. Cara was saying she didn’t even really want a party and would be happy if they didn’t and then Kate goes on to babble about see!!!! They make it where I feel I have to make it great for them and can’t let them down!!!!!!! Gees if she were listening how is not wanting a party setting her up to let them down??? Just don’t have a party! And OMG when they were in the store and saw the letters “C” “&” “M” the way she was gasping and squealing (how she describes her kids do all the time) She is a nut case and needs to be locked up she was equivalent to acting like a 3 year old! Oh I could go on but this is all I have time to write.
I saw a bit last night - crappy party for a 16 yr old. Is there a reason the girls couldn't be there on their own with their friends for a few hours? Oh yeah - no camera time for Kate! It was babyish and boring. And yes, that hairdresser should of have been embarrassed to be there. He came all the way from New York for that? Thrilling.
As for the drinking part, they are at the age where they would probably try if given the opportunity, but obviously the opportunity wasn't available then, nor should it be.
20 yr olds drinking? Why shouldn't they? I believe in most of the world, the legal age is either 18 or 19 years old.
The meltdown Kate had was very dramatic and unecessary. Really it's just to garner up more drama that isn't really there or necessary. I remember in one of the newer seasons (I think it was the episode where they had that photoshoot) you can hear Cara telling Kate "you're so dramatic when they're filming" or something along those lines. I just feel like Kate isn't as over the top as people think or she wants people to think.
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In the IG photo of Jon with the kids on NYE, he looks amazingly well for being deceased. The taxidermist did an exceptional job, and the festive hat he placed on Jon's head was a fun idea!
Kate's Fetid Soul said... 82
With all the damn money Kate has, she could not have put together a nicer party for the girls? A Dj?
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HAHAHAHA! I know of a DJ who would probably give them a family discount!!
Andrea was the babysitter. Kate has help. The proof is all those Post It notes.
Makes sense the party was filmed over two days.
20 yr olds drinking? Why shouldn't they? I believe in most of the world, the legal age is either 18 or 19 years old.
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This is an interesting look at legal drinking ages, state by state, in this country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._history_of_alcohol_minimum_purchase_age_by_state
I often have wondered if some friends don't come to these filmed-for-lining-Kate's-pocket parties
I got the impression that the kids at this birthday party weren't particularly their friends. Just kids they knew in a vague sort of way.
Kids whose parents would sign for filming. Hoping for screen time for their precious snowflake maybe?
Oh, I agree Kate ramps up the "drama" during filming because she mistakenly believes that is "acting". It is backfiring because people are turned off by her historinics and she is doing Mady no favors by allowing the rudeness to go unchecked on TV. Everyone is calling Mady "a brat" on Facebook.
Rae Barnes (#110), so C directly contradicted what TFW said about the twins expecting such a special party? Why am I not surprised?!
It's one thing for TFW to try to get away with her one-sided fiction on Twitter or Instagram, but it's another when we can watch her kids' words and actions make a liar out of her.
Cara was saying she didn’t even really want a party
I can't get over how many times that was said. "I didn't want a party."
But no never means no to TFW.
No point in even voicing your wishes; they don't matter. If it's needed for filming that's what they're gonna do.
A DJ is a fun idea with boys and girls invited for a Sweet 16. Maybe if the twins were talking to their dad he could have given them a great party for them and their friends.
I believe Kate said herself she has someone come to the house to do laundry. She can't keep her lies straight. I was shocked to learn she even had hired a lifeguard for the summer. Really, are we to believe a woman who has millions and lives in a big house does not have a housekeeper too???? Even my friends who make a "mediocre" income hire the occasional maid service to clean.
Mady herself said Kate's crying was phony. She actually said that. She also said she's just being dramatic and under other circumstances (not sure that was her exact word) she would not have cried. I'm assuming the circumstances are "filming" and "attention" from the other guests.
Swimgirl (#114), that was a good one!
Mel, I think they are the twin's friends, they are just well behaved and not hogging camera time. They may have been instructed to blend into the background too. I don't get the friendship that the twins have with that one girl who goes on trips with them. Three's a crowd.
Did you notice how badly behaved the children were for the arts/crafts lady?
Just stupid. They were acting like 2 year olds who had never been let out of their cage before.
Notice that the arts/crafts lady didn't freak out, or even raise her voice.
She just quietly said, "Aaden, that's enough." Or something like that.
Considering how much the kids were acting up, I was kind of surprised at how calmly the lady dealt with them. Much like what you'd expect from a pre-school teacher.
Except that these kids are 11.
According to the latest from "Blasting News"..."Collin Gosselin is still stuck in mental hospital".
I think this is the first time I have seen the 'institution' described by the media as a "mental hospital".
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I think Cara seems clinically depressed. IMO
foxy...103... It did not appear that there was any music...
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No music for a sixteenth birthday party? Now it's getting sad. Clearly the woman has neither a clue nor a friend who is willing to lend her one.
Not all the kids were their friends. Two were twins that "knew Mady and Cara before they were born" because the moms were in same Lamaze class.
So she invited these kids that her kids don't know, along with their parents that Kate said she hasn't seen in ages, to a party that their own siblings couldn't attend because there was "not enough room" for them. They also weren't invited back to the house after for the fire pit on the deck. And when they left Kate barely said a good-bye. I don't get why she invited them. What was the point? They added nothing to the storyline. Unless Kate thought they would because they knew each other in the womb. ???
Mel,
I think the kids acted like preschoolers because since they were toddlers they weren't allowed to have fun around Kate. She wasn't there to yell at them and they reverted back to their preschooler behavior.
I was kind of embarrassed for them to be seen acting like that. One boy was also biting the other boy's arm while being dragged around chanting something about nibbling on his arm. He did it while Mady was talking to the cameras and they walked past twice.
That's another thing, they talk to the cameras! I guess most people have caught onto the lack of reality in reality tv shows, so they don't bother acting like the cameras aren't there.
CC said... 130
Not all the kids were their friends. Two were twins that "knew Mady and Cara before they were born" because the moms were in same Lamaze class.
So she invited these kids that her kids don't know, along with their parents that Kate said she hasn't seen in ages, to a party that their own siblings couldn't attend because there was "not enough room" for them. They also weren't invited back to the house after for the fire pit on the deck. And when they left Kate barely said a good-bye. I don't get why she invited them. What was the point? They added nothing to the storyline. Unless Kate thought they would because they knew each other in the womb. ???
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I think those twin girls were the same friends that accompanied them when Kate(and TLC) took Mady and Cara to DC cupcakes in 2011.
I wonder if it was someone at Figure 8 that remembered them and suggested that they be invited to the party.
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Kate's Fetid Soul said... 82
With all the damn money Kate has, she could not have put together a nicer party for the girls? A Dj?
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HAHAHAHA! I know of a DJ who would probably give them a family discount!!
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Hahahahahaha!!! Well, there ya go :o)
It would have been nice, but Kate's missed the logic train again...
Maybe Kate's behavior seems off because she lacks empathy and acts out what she thinks is appropriate with all the wailing and tears?
Lauren Prugh @leprugh 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 can we get your salmon burger recipe???
LOL!! We knew this was coming. Google "salmon burger" sheep!
Also telling, is that the girls claim they enjoyed their simple party. Aside from the hour of looking at baby videos, that is. So they don't need the over-the-top parties to have a good party.
I think they also said they've never had a birthday party before. Mady said something about it, and added "thanks little kids," or something like that. So apparently all the real birthday parties are only done for the sextuplets because they are the money-makers. Kate was waiting for a milestone birthday, like Sweet Sixteen to throw them an actual party with their friends.
And they have no male friends? I think Cara does. Saw pics of her a while back with a boy that she said she was close to, or something along those lines.
Thanks, CC. No idea there were strangers at the party. So sad.
CC said... 130
Not all the kids were their friends. Two were twins that "knew Mady and Cara before they were born" because the moms were in same Lamaze class.
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I'm sorry, that's just beyond pathetic. You invite a woman and her children whom you met 16 years before in Lamaze because . . . ? Did it look like they were friends outside of the episode? Just backs up the premise that there are NO lengths to which she will not go to keep the shit-show alive.
Everyone's descriptions of Cara's behavior are just sad.
bm, based upon the clues from Radar, it is a residential mental health facility. Kate makes it sound like he's at a boarding school.
I've been reading with interest all the comments about last night show and, what it boils down to for me, the children love their mother, because that is what they are supposed to do, but they fail to "like" her and that is what is so incredibly sad about this family. But who could blame them given the mother they are stuck with.
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FYI... The hour long video was of their first year only. Mady even said it would have been more interesting if they showed them as toddlers. And poor Kate stayed up many nights to put that together... Uh, yeah. And she said when she decorated the baby carriage (sign and streamers - yawn) she covered the windows on the garage so no one would steal her idea. And they won. Can any locals confirm this? She is insane!
Tucker's Mom said... 81
Another major editing mistake was all of the prep was supposedly done on party day. Yet she had several changes of clothes. First whatever she was wearing early during her first freakout
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If she was soooo behind in her list of things to do, how did the Starbucks get on the counter?
After St. Tony, who delivers The Queen her vanilla latte?
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Of course, Errand Boy Steve!
Kate is a twit,
I don't know. TLC describes that episode as "Kate takes Mady and Cara and their two best friends, who are also sisters, to visit and bake with the stars of TLC's DC..."
It doesn't say they are twins, just sisters, but maybe. And best friends? Didn't seem it at their Sweet 16.
But at least one of the girls, Cara I think, seemed surprised to hear the Lamaze story. And Kate said to their mother that it's been way too long since she's seen her.
Maybe the girls are friends but Kate has nothing to do with the mom, even though Kate says they bonded because they both had twins. I guess she didn't serve a purpose for Kate.
I'm not sure. But I think they left with barely a goodbye. I don't have it to watch that part again. Does anyone else remember?
TLC stinks said... 134
Maybe Kate's behavior seems off because she lacks empathy and acts out what she thinks is appropriate with all the wailing and tears?
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If she keeps that up, SHE will be the next one institutionalized.
Shoot! Bite my tongue. It's not something to make light of- especially having to raise 7 (8 when C----- is released) children.
But damn it! If this is the way that she behaves with the cameras ON, how does she behave with the cameras OFF?
Her kids are exposed to that kind of behavior, and probably presume that it is a normal that their mother behaves like an impetuous child. It's become a horror show. Kate is quickly loosing her shizz, and the same camera that is filming that mess, will be the filmed evidence that will be used to take her kids away.
Pray for C-----. My heart breaks for him.
It must be positively frightening for him to be far from his family, and surrounded by doctors and other patients.
Except that these kids are 11.
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Twelve, turning 13 in May. Soon to be teens.
Erica Pecho @erica_pecho 4m4 minutes ago
My dad is so emotional. He literally starts crying over an episode of Kate Plus 8. 😂😂😂 @Kateplusmy8
Why is he "literally" crying? He feels sorry for the kids? He's emotionally invested in them for what reason? He can't believe they are growing up? He's upset because of the way Kate treats them and the never really had normal childhoods? He's sad because the episodes are nearly over and there will be no more Gosselins for his viewing and entertainment pleasure?
Geez.
It was a simple party. And if that's what the twins wanted, I'm glad that's what they got. (Cara saying she didn't want a party nothwithstanding.)
However, that being said...I don't see what all the wailing and gnashing of teeth was about from TFW.
CC said... 109
I noticed Mady said she doesn't need a license because she doesn't go anywhere but to school. Cara said she doesn't need one because she only goes to lacrosse and wouldn't be allowed to drive there anyway.
So the "driving" was just part of a storyline for the show. It's kind of sad that the kids have no desire to get their license
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I kind of get it, but not for the reasons the twins gave.
I got my license at 18 (or late 17) and wasn't chomping at the bit to get it asap.
First, my parents didn't have Goldilocks cars. Next, we lived near public transit, I used to bike all over God's creation and my circle of friends included drivers with cars.
My reasons had NOTHING to do with not needing transport because I did nothing.
That Mady said she doesn't want her license because she's got nowhere she wants to go or maybe can go?
Sad.
And where does Cara play lacross that she wouldn't be permitted to drive there?
Oh well. For whatever reasons, we knew darn well Kate wasn't going to encourage, or maybe even allow, the twins to drive.
The farce of putting cones out to tool around in the Gator was just foolish.
What a dog and pony show.
TLC should be ashamed by this total sham.
I think Mady is a big influence on what Cara does or doesn't do.
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I think Mady has Kate's uncanny ability to get people to do her bidding.
Rae Barnes said... 110
I just wanted to say that I watched the show last night and it was ridiculous. I kept wanting to change the channel but never did, I also was sort of hoping it would get better, but it didn’t.
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I wish we could issue hazard pay for those who watch-or those who can't look away.
Maybe some hazard Rumspringa?
Here is the Blasting News article that posted today.
Kate Gosselin forced to give kids to Jon Gosselin but son Colin still MIA on 'Kate Plus 8'.
Court orders reality TV mom of 8 Kate Gosselin to surrender kids to dad after child abuse probe: Collin Gosselin still stuck in mental hospital.
"Kate Plus 8" Kate Gosselin forced to surrender kids to Jon Gosselin Source: Wikimedia.
"Kate Plus 8" Kate Gosselin forced to surrender kids to Jon Gosselin.
Ex-reality television dad Jon Gosselin finally got to spend time with a few of his eight kids--but not without a fight.
After multiple child abuse charges, his estranged wife Kate Gosselin was court-ordered to surrender the children to their dad. But there's still no word on 12-year-old sextuplet Collin Gosselin.
The boy was sent by his mother, without his father's consent or knowledge, to a "special school" that turned out to be a mental hospital. Collin's still MIA in family pictures and on Gosselin's "#Kate Plus 8" reality TV show.
Kate Gosselin made to share custody of kids.
After the parents of "Jon & Kate Plus 8" divorced, Kate was awarded custody of the couple's children. They share a set of twins and a set of sextuplets. The raising of them formed the basis of the parents' reality show. Mom got primary (but not sole) custody because she was "working" and dad wasn't.
Kate's "job" consisted of being a reality TV mom. Jon was granted visitation rights which his ex-wife didn't honor. Gosselin has rarely seen his kids, some not for years, and never all together. He only got to have four of his children for New Year's Eve BECAUSE THE JUDGE INTERVENED!
Kate Gosselin keeps mum on son, even with dad.
Jon Gosselin did get a little time with a few of his children on Thanksgiving. But the 16-year-old twins Mady and Cara Gosselin won't see their father and have publicly shamed him. Their mother applauds this and encourages their avoiding dad.
As for sextuplet Collin Gosselin, mom sent the tween to a mysterious facility for unspecified treatment of "anger issues" over the divorce. Dad was not aware of his being sent away from the family, nor given the chance to try to help his child.
So far, Collin has appeared in none of the latest "Kate Plus 8" episodes, and was excluded from his own birthday party and Christmas.
Kate Gosselin's show must go on.
So Kate's job is her TV show. But after the viciously acrimonious divorce, TLC pulled the plug on "Jon & Kate Plus 8" as it was no longer "family-friendly." Mrs. Gosselin worked tirelessly to persuade The Learning Channel to give her another show.
She dropped Jon from the show, but kept her married name, ostensibly because of its media pull and TV connections, and she's navigated child abuse charges made by Collin to staffers.
Kate bragged that she's been investigated many times yet still claims it's her ex-husband who is the problem. #KateGosselin
Somewhere In Time said... 113
In the IG photo of Jon with the kids on NYE, he looks amazingly well for being deceased. The taxidermist did an exceptional job, and the festive hat he placed on Jon's head was a fun idea!
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I think Colleen and the 4 kids Weekend At Bernie Jon for photo-ops.
JustMissy said... 141
FYI... The hour long video was of their first year only. Mady even said it would have been more interesting if they showed them as toddlers. And poor Kate stayed up many nights to put that together... Uh, yeah. And she said when she decorated the baby carriage (sign and streamers - yawn) she covered the windows on the garage so no one would steal her idea. And they won. Can any locals confirm this? She is insane!
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First, anyone who subjects people to baby videos for an hour needs to appear before The Hague ;-)
Second, Kate is nuts.
That's all.
Tucker's Mom said... 149
I think Mady has Kate's uncanny ability to get people to do her bidding.
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There's no "ability" involved, all it takes is constant repetitive bitching to make it happen. She just wears her targets down.
OT: Maksim Chmerkovskiy and Peta Murgatroyd have a baby boy! They are being congratulated by many family and friends, including the wonderful Saint Tony of the Ballroom. (For anyone who doesn't recall, Tony was granted sainthood after he pushed Shopping Cart TFW around the ballroom and tried valiantly to get her lazy ass to practice - and after all that he still didn't strangle her! A true saint!
JoyinVirginia said... 155
OT: Maksim Chmerkovskiy and Peta Murgatroyd have a baby boy! They are being congratulated by many family and friends, including the wonderful Saint Tony of the Ballroom. (For anyone who doesn't recall, Tony was granted sainthood after he pushed Shopping Cart TFW around the ballroom and tried valiantly to get her lazy ass to practice - and after all that he still didn't strangle her! A true saint!
January 4, 2017 at 2:25 PM
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In other celeb news, Omarosa (The Apprentice "stah") got a position in Trump's administration.
No politics here. Just saying that someone who worked her 15-minutes of reality tv fame (through Trump's show) managed to find a job in the White House.
I know next to nothing about personality disorders. If Kate indeed is a narcissist, is it possible to be one, and also have issues with self-esteem? I thought narcissists, were self-centered with huge egos. Back in the day we called it conceited and snooty. It seems, though, from her recent tweets that she consistently needs to be reassured that she's the best Mommy on the planet, that she looks to her kids for guidance, comfort and reassurance, and really has problems with self-confidence.
Is that just an act to garner sympathy from her fans, or does a narcissist have problems with interaction with others and is socially awkward? I thought it was just the opposite.
Of course, this is Kate. We really don't know what mental health issues she has, but clearly there is something "off" there...big time.
Joy, Maks posted a picture of her pre-delivery, in her hospital bed putting on makeup. At that point, I think I would have been close to strangling him for putting that online!
CC said... 143
Kate is a twit,
I don't know. TLC describes that episode as "Kate takes Mady and Cara and their two best friends, who are also sisters, to visit and bake with the stars of TLC's DC..."
It doesn't say they are twins, just sisters, but maybe. And best friends? Didn't seem it at their Sweet 16.
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Here's is a picture from the DC cupcake episode that shows the mother and one of the girls.
http://r.ddmcdn.com/w_513/s_f/o_1/cx_0/cy_10/cw_513/ch_342/TLC/uploads/2014/06/kate-plus-8-212-03-dc-cupcakes-515x365.jpg
The mother and the one girl look a lot like the mother and one of the girls shown in last night's episode.
First, anyone who subjects people to baby videos for an hour needs to appear before The Hague ;-)
Second, Kate is nuts.
That's all.
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I am reminded of Betty White's comment that looking at other people's vacation photos is punishment! The same is true for baby videos!
Speaking of Betty, why is it, sheeple, that one never reads negative or scathing comments about Betty? Could it be that she's a classy lady, one who is respectful, gracious, appreciative, humble, treats others with kindness and doesn't burn bridges? The Kate fans are of the opinion that tabloids and media are out to get Kate, and don't understand that there's a reason for this. It's all about how you treat others. What goes around, comes around, and being a witch certainly won't foster positive feelings or good publicity. Kate is her own worst enemy. She's done all of this to herself.
There are so many comments on social media and Kate's twitter from non-fans about Kate "sending Collin away." I wonder, though, if she really did that. Not knowing his issues or his 'special needs," is it possible that she had no choice, that he was removed from that home by CPS, or someone in authority? Could it be that his problems are severe enough that therapists, mental health professions, his pediatrician, all agreed that the only way to deal with his issues is to place him in an environment/facility that can best address his needs? In this case, it would seem that Kate had no choice but to follow their advice.
We just don't know,
I think next weeks episode we'll know whether TLC renewed her or not.There are quite a few fans asking if there will be another season and yet Kate hasn't teased anything to them.As much as im glad that the episodes so far aren't getting a million.Apart of me has this gut feeling that TLC is going to listen to the handful of Kate's fans comments begging them for another season and aren't going to care about the fact that none of the episodes got over a million and would think that because Kate has at least 1 fan watching,it would be enough to keep her.
I am reminded of Betty White's comment that looking at other people's vacation photos is punishment! The same is true for b
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Did you hear about the Go Fund Me to keep Betty White alive in 2016?
Too funny. We lost so many beloved celebs, and a handful so suddenly towards the end of 2016 (the year that shall not be named), that the thought of losing our precious Betty was too much to even think about!
Thankfully, she made it.
God bless her.
jamezvader1194 said... 162
I think next weeks episode we'll know whether TLC renewed her or not.There are quite a few fans asking if there will be another season and yet Kate hasn't teased anything to them
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I thought that Kate teased on Twitter last night that they'd be getting back to filming.
Susie Cincinnati said... 157
I know next to nothing about personality disorders. If Kate indeed is a narcissist, is it possible to be one, and also have issues with self-esteem? I thought narcissists, were self-centered with huge egos.
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The core of a narcissist is actually an empty self.
" At the core the narcissist is full of self loathing, living as a false self, unable to be real, to reciprocate feelings of affection or love."
"Unconsciously feeling emotionally empty and unworthwhile..."
http://thenarcissistinyourlife.com/narcissistic-greed-narcissistic-psychological-emptiness-2/
Could it be that his problems are severe enough that therapists, mental health professions, his pediatrician, all agreed that the only way to deal with his issues is to place him in an environment/facility that can best address his needs? In this case, it would seem that Kate had no choice but to follow their advice.
We just don't know,
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I can't imagine any *good* scenario whereby a 12-year old child is taken or placed out of his home, all alone, to never see his brothers and sisters or his own father. Or, never gets to visit home-even misses his own birthday which he shares with 5 siblings, from the womb.
No, this is disturbing. This is bordering on insane to watch the family film and have fun, fun, fun adventures, and milestones, and not one. single. word. about Collin.
It's creepy and gives me the chills.
That's how crazy this all appears.
Just a reminder of Tony pushing TFW in the shopping cart.
http://tinyurl.com/jyy5pd7
@Kaceytron I don't see any tweets of that.Unless it was to this one fan whose account is set to private so i can't tell what they asked her.She might of meant the episode being on a commercial break Kate Gosselin
@Kateplusmy8
@littleangels5 not the end... Just a break lol 😂.. @TLC
When will the children realize their dear friends, Ronnie, Steve, Deanna, are their friends because they make money off them or their mother? Too bad actual family couldn't be there.
Tucker's Mom (#166), I share your concern and sadness about C's situation. Today I started wondering what his days are like, wherever he is. Has he made friends? Is there an adult or two he's made a connection to, someone nurturing and kind?
Are there activities he participates in which he enjoys and looks forward to? It is such an awful situation.
Susie Cincinnati said... 157
I know next to nothing about personality disorders. If Kate indeed is a narcissist, is it possible to be one, and also have issues with self-esteem? I thought narcissists, were self-centered with huge egos. Back in the day we called it conceited and snooty. It seems, though, from her recent tweets that she consistently needs to be reassured that she's the best Mommy on the planet, that she looks to her kids for guidance, comfort and reassurance, and really has problems with self-confidence.
Is that just an act to garner sympathy from her fans, or does a narcissist have problems with interaction with others and is socially awkward? I thought it was just the opposite.
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It's been my (unfortunate) experience with narcissists that they are usually racked with self-doubt and insecurity, which they would never admit. Since they can appear so confident and haughty people often assume that means they have a huge ego when it's precisely the opposite. It's a fake confidence. Their arrogance is a facade. People assume they are "egomaniacs", when they often have an extremely low self esteem and are quite fragile.
Are there activities he participates in which he enjoys and looks forward to? It is such an awful situation.
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Is he aware of his mother's show, and how she's carrying on without him? 2 puppies back at home, his 12th birthday party was a blast-the best party ever-without him, vacations galore to places they've "always" wanted to go to and last but not least, his whole family grinning ear to ear on the front of People magazine.
With his freshly-minted and very sad departure emblazened on the front, where every schlub in the world read on their way out of the grocery store.
This is so depraved that if I didn't see it for myself, I'd never believe it.
As far as narcissists go, I happened to stumble across this interesting article just last night. There's a perfect quote about narcissism in it:
"According to the expert, 'it's like a disease where the sufferers feel pretty good, but the people around them suffer.'
There's a quiz to take, and I think TFW would score about a 35:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4084312/Quiz-reveals-narcissist.html
Are YOU a narcissist? Quiz reveals how your feelings about your body and a desire to be a leader could indicate if your ego is out of control
Even the most caring of people can be self-absorbed from time to time, but could an interest in how you look or desire to be in charge mean you're a narcissist?
The Narcissistic Personality Inventory test, was developed by US-based researchers Robert Raskin and Howard Terry to assess people's level of the trait for their psychological research.
According to their findings, those who score highly have characteristics such as being impulsive, aggressive and dominant as well as being hungry for power and believing they are 'special'.
The quiz consists of 40 questions about your behaviour towards others, your feelings about your own body and appearance and how you assess your position in the world - a follower or a leader.
The average American has a score of 15.5, and the quiz's authors say that 17 or above is 'flirting with narcissism'.
Actors have an average score of 18.45, while reality stars typically come in at 19.45. Violent offenders in prison tend to have a score of 23.
If both answers resonate, then choose the one you can relate to the most.
It should take only around five minutes to complete, and the closer your score is to 40, the more narcissistic you are.
Psychologists define narcissism as an 'inflated, grandiose self-image,' and it has persevered through the centuries as a personality trait and, in extreme cases, a psychological disorder.
Narcissists have a tendency to act selfishly, according to the lesson by W. Keith Campbell, and this can present itself in many different ways.
According to the expert, 'it's like a disease where the sufferers feel pretty good, but the people around them suffer.'
Political leaders or people of power may make risky or unethical decisions as a result of narcissism, while narcissistic partners could be unfaithful and dishonest.
As a personality trait, narcissism can appear in two forms: grandiose narcissism and vulnerable narcissism.
In both forms, however, 'the dark side of narcissism' will ultimately show up over time.
A much more extreme type of narcissism also exists, and it's classified as a psychological disorder.
Their arrogance is a facade. People assume they are "egomaniacs", when they often have an extremely low self esteem and are quite fragile.
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Kate is incapable of conducting herself alone. She has had Steve and any number of TLC people by her side for a decade.
She is a very weak person.
No, this is disturbing. This is bordering on insane to watch the family film and have fun, fun, fun adventures, and milestones, and not one. single. word. about Collin.
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Oh, yes, I agree, to a point but I really don't think she should comment about Collin. Let it be.
When Collin left, either sent away by Kate, or removed under protest, all filming should have stopped. You don't celebrate parties with one of them missing, or gleefully appear on the cover of the magazine, and you don't proclaim it the best birthday party ever. You just don't. You quietly make an exit and take care of the family, their needs, and be the parent that you should be, even if this means parenting classes, a psych evaluation, or whatever is necessary in healing yourself so that your kids can heal and get back whatever is left of their childhood and their privacy.
Kate is just too darn dumb to see it. Milo and the sheeple are her enablers. They praise her. This is what she wants to hear and it keeps her going, It's sad that the whole flock of these clueless fans don't realize the harm that is done to these kids, simply for their own amusement and entertainment. These immature, zealous fans continue to contribute to the dysfunction of this family.
It's been my (unfortunate) experience with narcissists that they are usually racked with self-doubt and insecurity, which they would never admit. Since they can appear so confident and haughty people often assume that means they have a huge ego when it's precisely the opposite. It's a fake confidence. Their arrogance is a facade. People assume they are "egomaniacs", when they often have an extremely low self esteem and are quite fragile.
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Thanks for your reply, Former. Carrie Ann said that Kate has no self-awareness. Is this true of most narcissists? In the toy store episode, Kate said that she doesn't see other people. Is that because she's concerned only about herself, or because she's socially awkward?
And in the Church Ladies news:
@PattyParsonsPat: Ben setting hear squalling all day Hope Alice diagnosed with dwarfism she won't ever grow big
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