The Gosselins travel to Alabama to go to Space Camp! Kate and the kids explore all NASA has to offer and become astronauts for the day. Will the family get along long enough to complete their missions? 60 Min.
Tucker's Mom (#180), that boy is actually less than 5 months from being a teenager. If he's nervous about his candle, it's because his mother has repeatedly drummed it into his head that he's an icky, dirty, smelly boy who is inherently less than his sisters. And it's not remotely an "LOL" situation -- it's actually quite sad.
Abuse isn't limited to hitting and shrieking and deprivation. I also think it's abusive when you hamstring a child's self esteem to the point of him walking on eggshells 24/7 -- even in church. I still think at least one of those boys is going to fall in love with the first girl who treats him nicely. He won't know what to make of it.
kateplusmy8 Merry Christmas one and all! Another great year of Christmas morning memories about to be made here....🎁🎄🎁 Can't wait!!! I must say, it's been quite a year for us, but we are (still) choosing happiness and focusing on our many many blessings to carry us through the season...!! Having said that, ready, set, rip and tear....🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁
Photo of (fully) decorated tree and tons of presents the kids bought for themselves. And look, there's 8 of them. Merry Xmas, kids!
it's been quite a year for us, but we are (still) choosing happiness and focusing on our many many blessings to carry us through the season. ****** IOW, no Collin ;-(
I thought that candlelight service had to be taken on Dec 23 in the evening. Glad to hear I was right. She's playing the picture game that she has the kids.
Holy cow! All those presents! Wonder if they still have to sit in a circle and get one at a time. No doubt, as I stated previously, that was taken last night. Those kids could have been at Jon's last night for all we know. And I have a bad feeling Collin is not included in that pile of gifts.
Is "choosing happiness" material things under that tree and those vacays?
The Aaden candle comment is just weird. What is he... three years old? Geez.
Looking again at that tree, very few ornaments and only white ones. Wonder how many colorful ones her kids have made in school over the years that never made it to the tree.
Doesn't look like they're going anywhere over break, so very likely no filming.
One cannot always simply choose happiness. Does she understand if people could there would be no depression in this world? Another insensitive and disconnected comment from tfw. I worry about how she is helping the siblings handle not having their brother around. I doubt they are free to mourn and grieve. Instead they are probably told to just happy up and get on with it.
foxy said... 189 Nice to hear Katie attended her yearly goin' to church with the kids. Who takes selfies in Church? She is nutzzzz. I hope it did not cause too much chaos for the parishioners who actually attend weekly plus the other programs the church offers. -------------------------
Wow, she really is desperate and inappropriate to be taking pictures of her kids in church. What a phony!
Amazing. Not a peep about Collin. That pile of gifts is overcompensation for lack of relatives' gifts and Collin. Bribery mixed in too. ALSO, a FU to Jon as in look what I can give the kids.
Noticed the tree was pretty bare with few ornaments. Always been that way. So lazy. I bet Andrea and Jamie helped with the wrapping too!
Morally and ethically, Kate should have pulled the plug on filming when she knew darn well that Collin would be absent.
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It's clear that's how many of her fans wanted her to handle it, and why so many are appalled she is continuing on.
She really may have been better off taking a long hiatus and not resuming filming until Collin is back in the home. I think most of us expected the ratings to be bad, but this was a mandate from viewers. I firmly believe the ratings would have been outrageously better without this Collin situation. Also, waiting would have built up interest and curiosity such that viewers would tune in to see Collin back. And, there wouldn't have been a fleecing, because all of those appalled fans rather would have praised her for doing just the right thing. Kate will cut off her nose to spite her face every day of the week and twice on Sundays. That's Kate.
Oh, and here's the "Look, the kids are with MEEEE!" photo. Although this might have been taken last night, too. She loves to stage and deceive like that.
kateplusmy8 All unwrapped and playing with mini robot 'Cosmo'-- I'm in love with him too! #MerryChristmas🎄#AlexisPresent
Well, at least she made an effort to decorate the tree this year. The lights cover most of the tree and there are about eight ornaments (one for each kid I guess). She's got a new IG post with a picture of two girls playing with Cosmo the robot and she's in love with him.
<=====I woke up to a white Christmas this morning, Southwest style!
Admin (#10), arghh, I thought the same thing as I read that. Choosing happiness -- oh, what a brave little soldier she is. How I wish she had chosen REALITY -- not the TV genre, but the reality that her child is away, and his condition was most likely exacerbated by a decade-long violation of privacy due to TLC's cameras. And that her 7 other children are still suffering and damaged from the continuation of this intrusion -- whether they "vote" for it every year or not.
Another rip-and-tear Christmas at G Manor. Eight kids, 7 kids, whatever.
A standard holiday visitation schedule is that holidays are split. I would have my child Christmas Eve through noon,then he would have her until I forget, that evening or the next morning. And this would rotate yearly. She just posted an IG showing her cleaning supplies saying she is organizing while the kids are playing...hopefully they will go to Jon's for dinner.
kateplusmy8 What am I doing you ask? I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year! A pure harmonious 'hush' falls about the house as the children play together peacefully in a far away room .. While I...organize and cook to the sounds of joyful Christmas music! Ahhhh the sounds of Christmas! It's a wonderful life! Merry Christmas to all.. And to all an organized happy house! 🎄🎄🎄🎄
Photo of mops and brooms---ah the life of the piecin' and patchin' single mom of 8! She's so full of crap I'm surprised she can even open her mouth. Only that one photo of the two girls, I don't know that I'm buying that all of the kids are home with Mommy.
Since Alexis's own money probably paid for it, I have no issues with it. Though it's quite a price to pay for something that will either be broken or forgotten in a week.
And her comes the truth police. Busted again, K8, and by your BFF! jamiepumpkin3 Don't think I have ever viewed that closet so clean & organized! Think it will be that way by the time I make it back?😂🎄😘
kateplusmy8 If you hop on the next plane, yes! If not, I fear not! Way to rain on my organized Christmas, Jame! 😜 @jamiepumpkin3
TLC stinks (#19), why am I picturing gift opening going something like this: Girl 1: I got a Cozmo! Girl 2: I got a FitBit! Girl 3: I got a camera! Girl 4: I got an iPad! Girl 5: I got a GoPro! Boys: We got Legos. Sigh.
tifanywalker@kateplusmy8 you need your own show to give people advice on how to keep things organized. As well as how to whip kids/spouses into cleaning shape!! 🎄
Kate is so full of crap. Once again she uses photos to create her MADE UP reality. I doubt everything she says. And she is playing the PR card. The more she posts, the more I am convinced Collin is not there. In fact, what she is posting is a slap to Collin. He ratted on her, therefore he will never be a part of her family again.
Now that is insanity. Who organizes/cleans Christmas Day especially with eight/seven children to celebrate with. No doubt her few remaining fans will praise her for being sooo wonderful. Disgraceful that she does not even acknowledge that Collin is absent from all the fun.
Merry Christmas to all who yearn for a better future for the eight Gosselins.
So she is feeling sad for a robot - a toy, because Alexis beat him? Are you serious? She has to beat her own kids every single time they are playing anything and she has no pity for them but she feels sorry for an inanimate object. Yep, that's Kate Gosselin.
Sad but true said... 22 kateplusmy8 What am I doing you ask? I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year! A pure harmonious 'hush' falls about the house as the children play together peacefully in a far away room .. While I...organize and cook to the sounds of joyful Christmas music! Ahhhh the sounds of Christmas! It's a wonderful life! Merry Christmas to all.. And to all an organized happy house! 🎄🎄🎄🎄 ********************** IF any of the kids are home, I think this is Katespeak for "I'm in my room with a jug-o-wine while the dinner that Katherine prepared is heating up in the oven"
bm (#32), oh, but TFW did acknowledge C, in her bizarre fashion. She said she's choosing happiness. That was her way of saying, we're short one kid, but, hey, it's all good!
Must all the other 7 choose happiness, too? Hey, guys, here's a way for you to not miss your brother -- PRESENTS, PRESENTS, PRESENTS!
About TFW's "harmonious hush" -- isn't the approximately 8 hours a day the kids are away every weekday during the school year enough quiet for her? She's so anxious to peddle her "chaotic fun" agenda that she forgets to worry about facts.
Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Happy Kwanze, or whatever you celebrate. It's gorgeous here today. We are hanging at my younger daughter's house. I'm sitting by the fire enjoying a glass of wine watching the grandkids play with their gifts. This is what life is all about. Kate doesn't have a clue and never will.
__________________ Some of those sets are expensive and can set you back a pretty penny! Trust me, I know! I priced the Super Heroes The Shield Helicarrier building set. Good grief.
You know, for someone who has 106K IG followers, I wonder why not a single one of K8's 92 posts has ever exceeded +/-7,500 likes. And she's only come close to that number twice. InstaGram, can you explain that to us? :)
Anonymous said... 32 Now that is insanity. Who organizes/cleans Christmas Day especially with eight/seven children to celebrate with. _____ Someone who's not having company and does not enjoy spending time with her children. For all we know, kids are not even there.
If Collin was home, she would say so. Instead, it's like he never existed. Not even "we miss him". That kid, in her brain, is a turncoat and she will blame him if the show is cancelled.
Yep, Lego sets are expensive so I saved the ones my son got for Xmas for his child some day. I'm sure the kids (7) got expensive gifts to make an impression on them that mommy gives them more than their father with his mediocre job. It's not about love, it's about putting their father down and appealing to a child's greed. Look kids... when we film mommy has money to buy you tons of Xmas presents! That's the Xmas spirit in the Gosselin house.
Why she choose to focus on Alexis? Because Alexis is the next on the list that could sabotage the filming. And I don't believe Alexis is one that visits Jon often either.
What she ought to be doing instead of "organizing" is getting in the car and visiting her son (unless she is forbidden) which really is making sense.
Capecodmama (#40), why in the world are you WATCHING your grandkids play with their gifts? Wasn't that your cue to go in another room with a bottle of Mr. Clean and a box o' wine?! You don't know nothin' 'bout "making memories," do ya?;)
Why do I think that if the kids are with Jon today, they're not off in another room while he's tidying up the place? Does TFW ever think before she tweets that nonsense?
I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year!
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She's feeding the chaotic fun narrative, yet doesn't stop to think how this sounds.
If the ONLY time you have peace and quiet, and joy, with your children around, is one day a year, you are doing something very, very wrong. These children are not screaming toddlers. They are teens and almost teens, and are very capable of being calm, responsible, disciplined, gentle, and quiet. She can work to have a calm and joyful household. She chooses not to, because she thinks it will make boring TV.
She's horrible. Bragging about choosing happiness with her son gone. I had a niece become very, very ill at age 7. It changed our lives completely. I can remember those holidays, including her as best we could. We found happiness in many things but there was always some sadness too because our amazing girl was non-responsive. We are very lucky and she is better now but I remember those terribly mixed emotions. Kate has no heart at all. I bet the other kids have mixed emotions that they can't express to her.
She must be a nightmare for service providers to deal with. She seems to think so many things can be willed away. Hard to believe she has patience and understanding for issues with Collin that he may really struggle to help. Some are likely the way he was born, some are a product of HER poor parenting choices. Collin can't will his issues away and her comments along the lines of mind over matter are in many ways a subtle dig. SHE has things under control, others don't for some reason.
Admin (#49), even worse: TFW says she's celebrating peace quiet and joy because her children aren't around! They're off playing, and she's savoring the silence! What in the blue dilly heck?
If only poor C had "chosen" to behave well, instead of making things so very difficult for his mother, perhaps he would've been allowed to stay. I honestly think that's what she believes in her heart of hearts...if she's even got one.
TLC (44): "If Collin was home, she would say so. Instead, it's like he never existed. Not even "we miss him".
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I disagree. I don't think that she would. Not at this point in the game and after all the grief she has gotten about sending him away. All it would do is to open up a can of worms about sending him away, why she doesn't visit him, when will he be home permanently and so forth. Nope. She's not saying anything about him, and it really isn't anyone's business where he is today. Keeping that private is not a bad decision on her part.
There is so much speculation about Collin, whether she has visited him, if he's home, she should be doing this, or she should be doing that. Not to defend Kate, but hey, in reporting or not reporting where he is over the holidays, she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.
About the name on the birth certificate. I've known a gal since Kindergarten. The name given to her by her parents, and listed on her birth certificate, is Anna Marguerite. Nobody has ever called her that, not her parents, siblings, teachers, co-workers, employer. She is Maggie. I think if anyone addressed her as Anna or Marguerite, she'd claim she didn't hear them, or give them the old evil eye!
Is it me or does this IG comment sound either narcissistic cause she talks about how there is so many MES of her?She's happy about how many people are like her.kateplusmy8 Ahaha! I'm dying of laughter at all of your responses! There are many of me out there, just as I suspected! Lol! Lol! @jpeterson88 @tyleerussell @futurernneedscoffee @bkoepp23 @april_tennille @theformermrsjones
I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year!
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That's what brings her peace and joy and reason to celebrate? Having them quiet in another part of the house? What a horrible thing to say. What is wrong with her? She has healthy, beautiful children and she should be thankful that none of them is physically disabled or in wheelchairs; that they are able to make noise, run around, eat without a tube, breathe without artificial medical assistance, that none of them is blind nor deaf, but indeed are healthy kids who are alive.
LOL. That "far away room" must be at Jon's house. Because he got them for Thanksgiving, you can bet they are there with him today. She's so transparent.
Regardless where Collin is, wouldn't "they" let him come home for Christmas? The only scenario I can envision of him not being able to come home for a Christmas visit with his immediate family would be because he is violent. Sorry to say that. But what am I missing, if I am wrong.
And if that is the case, then I assume something violent got him sent away. But that was over six to seven months ago. So he is still that way? Again, any thoughts?
I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year! KG == If the ONLY time you have peace, and quiet, and joy with your children around, is one day a year, you are doing something very, very wrong. Very well said Admin! =========== Wow, it is appalling that she posted that. Yes, something is very, very wrong. I hope the dead quietness is really because the kids are at Jon's and not playing elsewhere in the house.
Think about it, she has a very large, multi-level home. So her kids must be scattered often "playing", watching TV, doing homework, or doing other things. So why is this the ONLY day of the year for Kate to get peace, quietness, and joy?
It is horrible that she cannot receive joy and peace around her kids. It screams to the tremendous dysfunction in that home. Twelve and sixteen year old should be relatively quiet and relaxed every day of the year. I agree Kate really does not think before she posts.
Here you go, Kate...from our local paper online. These parents have a reason to celebrate. They didn't know if their child would be alive this Christmas, and you are celebrating peace and quiet because your healthy kids are not near you.
"Their first Christmas with their first child isn’t quite what Rick and Amanda Wagner expected. For the past six months, 8-month-old Sophia Rae has battled leukemia, undergoing a blood transfusion, chemotherapy and a bone-marrow transplant.
Sophia was born April 17. One weekend in July, she was acting fussy, so, thinking she had an ear infection, Amanda Wagner decided to take her baby to the pediatrician.
But the diagnosis she received was drastically different: leukemia.
She rushed Sophia to Lancaster General Hospital, where tests showed the child’s white blood count was at 676,000 compared to the normal 10,000.
“She had so many white blood cells in her body it was toxic,” Amanda Wagner, 30, said.
Sophia was airlifted to Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, where doctors went to work to fight off the leukemia.
There have been moments when Sophia’s parents didn’t know if she would still be alive at Christmas.
“I remember thinking that I was going to have to plan a funeral,” Amanda Wagner said.
‘Best possible scenario’ When Sophia was first diagnosed with leukemia, doctors told the Wagners their daughter had a 20 percent chance of survival and that a bone-marrow transplant would up those odds to 60 percent.
"(The doctors) tell you, 'This is what we have to do, and we’re hopeful that she’ll make it through this,'" Rick Wagner, 34, said. “That’s all they give you.”
On Nov. 10, Sophia was given a bone-marrow transplant from a female donor who was a 100 percent match. Between the transfusion and the transplant, not one drop of blood in Sophia’s body is hers, he said.
On Dec. 12, the Wagners got the best present they could have asked for when they learned Sophia is cancer free. She was discharged from the hospital two days later.
“In the words of the doctors, it’s ‘the best possible scenario we could have hoped for,’ ”Rick Wagner said.
Because of regulations, the Wagners must wait one year before they can reach out via a letter to the family of the bone-marrow donor.
“We have every intention of doing that. We would love to meet them. We’re super grateful,” Rick Wagner said.
A quiet Christmas The Wagners say they could not have survived their ordeal without the support of family, friends and their medical teams.
Family and friends have helped in many ways, from raising money to mowing the lawn of their Ephrata Township home to organizing a prayer chain.
“We’ve run out of ways to thank everybody,” Rick Wagner said.
As for Christmas, it will look a little different this year.
Instead of large family gatherings, aunts and uncles and grandparents will take turns visiting Sophia, her parents said.
Even though Sophia was discharged from the hospital, the family is staying with a friend who lives close to Philadelphia, so they can be near in case something happens, they said.
Sophia will continue to be tested to make sure she remains cancer free.
“You can’t take life for granted,” Amanda Wagner said. “You have to appreciate everything.”
Sophia is blissfully unaware of the condition she’s in, her parents said. Throughout the whole process, she has continued to smile, even in the midst of treatments.
“The doctors call her a superstar,” Rick Wagner said.'
LOL. That "far away room" must be at Jon's house. Because he got them for Thanksgiving, you can bet they are there with him today. She's so transparent.
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It's a big house. Far away could be anywhere, even in the remodeled basement.
In my personal opinion (and speculation) if he's been apparently put in a behavioral health facility, I'm honestly thinking depression and ODD. And didn't Kate mention in the People article he moved into his own room?
She's not saying anything about him, and it really isn't anyone's business where he is today. Keeping that private is not a bad decision on her part.
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Agree. At least this is being kept private. There is no need to know where Collin is, nor to guess as to the nature of his issues, nor if he is permitted to be home for Christmas.
We're all about privacy for the kids, and yet there are those who want to know if he is with Kate, with Jon, or if he is required to remain in the treatment facility. What is not needed is that this information is disclosed or leaked by an inside 'source,' and then it becomes fodder for more tabloid news and speculation.
Leslie, Kate may not be allowed contact because of his abuse allegations which are under investigation. That could be the other scenario. It appears whatever is going on with Collin is pretty serious. He is not "just chugging along".
PA Dutch Mom said... 66 We're all about privacy for the kids, and yet there are those who want to know if he is with Kate, with Jon, or if he is required to remain in the treatment facility. What is not needed is that this information is disclosed or leaked by an inside 'source,' and then it becomes fodder for more tabloid news and speculation. _______________
Lynne In RI I just hope Jon's tweet where he said this,wasn't a tease or a lie and that something did happen that allowed him to see Collin and the other kids on Christmas.This tweet was from 11/21 Jon Gosselin @jgosselin10 @nochanceofrain can't say much but all is good
PA Dutch Mom said... 66 We're all about privacy for the kids, and yet there are those who want to know if he is with Kate, with Jon, or if he is required to remain in the treatment facility. What is not needed is that this information is disclosed or leaked by an inside 'source,' and then it becomes fodder for more tabloid news and speculation. _______________
I do agree PA Mom (#66). I was speculating and wondering about Collin like most have been doing these past weeks. Unfortunately Collin will be labeled and put under a microscope when he returns to normal life. This may follow him for decades too. It is more than a shame. This is all on his mother. This beautiful 12 year old does not deserve everybody wondering what is "wrong" with him.
His doctors, friends, relatives, and teachers must have been shocked and horrified to see the cover of People magazine addressing HIS personal health problems with the world. The public should not know ANYTHING about this. Kate should have passed up filming this go around. She could easily afforded it. And I am sure TLC would have understood too. They have made a huge fortune from this family over the past decade. IF Kate had a contract that she had to fulfill before Collin had to be sent away then I think TLC would have worked something out with her. But no she wanted the money and her mug on our screens.
Leslie (#71), not only did TFW want the TLC money and the TV face time, I think it was an added bonus for her to get people's sympathy. Awww, the poor single mom is now struggling with something else. More attention, more how-does-she-do-it, more attagirls. A narc's dream come true.
And that might've worked, if she hadn't taken the added step of grinning like a chimp for a photo shoot and cover story for People, essentially exploiting and profiting off of her child's difficult and painful ordeal. I don't think she realized that her son is more than a part of a pack to viewers. He was someone they grew to care about. And her callous treatment of HIS struggle -- yes, she is effected, but HE is the one suffering the most -- seems to have backfired.
Leslie said... 71 I do agree PA Mom (#66). I was speculating and wondering about Collin like most have been doing these past weeks. Unfortunately Collin will be labeled and put under a microscope when he returns to normal life ******* The public doesn't need to know what Collin's dx is, or where he is/was, but you bet the public is in the loop now because Kate made this VERY public. I don't expect Kate to keep the public in the loop if it looks bad on her, or if she can't spin his situation to make her look good, but heck if that woman won't keep on filming while letting everyone assume he's back home when he's not. To me, this isn't so much about being a neb nose, rather, it's about transparency, and about the public understanding the jig is up. I never really believed that Kate would cast a child away as she's casted everyone and anyone who's stood in her way. Not deep down. But now, I think there's no plan to bring Collin home or keep him connected to his siblings. Not on Kate's part anyway.
Right, the best course for Kate would have been STFU about Collin and just stop filming. Nobody would have known anything. She's got some nerve (and Mady, too) complaining that Jon goes to the tabloids and she's all about her kids' privacy and Jon is not. Finally the lightbulb has gone off for many fans about what she is about.
She's got some nerve (and Mady, too) complaining that Jon goes to the tabloids and she's all about her kids' privacy and Jon is not. Finally the lightbulb has gone off for many fans about what she is about.
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I agree. I think it was laid out in very simple terms for the fans this time, and they got it. This is not hard to understand. Kate claims to be all about her kids, yet sends a kid with special needs away for an incredibly long time and then just says they've happied up and got on with life. Wha-WHA??! Kate also claims to be all about privacy, yet uses said child to sell People magazines. Kate gets mad at Jon for, without any evidence on her part, "selling" their privacy, yet turns around and sells their privacy every darn day.
They saw it because it was simple, because it was all laid out there, because it took two seconds to process it.
I'm not implying viewers are stupid, but because some of them are so casual and not paying attention, they miss a lot of the more nuances detail we've seen about why she's such a bad person who doesn't deserve a TV show. This one wasn't hard to explain. This was sort of like a pileup on the freeway. Hard not to notice as you drive by.
I personally don't have a strong desire to know whether Collin is with Kate, Jon, or in a facility, but I do want to know if he's okay. I think a lot of the sentiment of wanting to know where he is really just relates back to "I want to know he's okay." Wherever that may be.
Kate opened the door to him NOT being okay. Given that, I don't think it's fair to scold people for wanting to know if everything is all right for that sweet boy.
PA Dutch Mom said... 66 We're all about privacy for the kids, and yet there are those who want to know if he is with Kate, with Jon, or if he is required to remain in the treatment facility. What is not needed is that this information is disclosed or leaked by an inside 'source,' and then it becomes fodder for more tabloid news and speculation.
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Yes, I agree. She should have just pulled the plug on filming when he was no longer able to be a part of the show. But she didn't, and she chose to make this public. However, although it's too late now to take back all of the info she made public, I don't think it's too late for her to just shut up about it, stop filming, wipe that silly "we're having so much fun" grin off her face, and just disappear. Yes, it would be like closing the gate after the horse has escaped, but at least the kids could get some privacy without being put out there for the amusement of the fans, and for the criticism of the public. At least some of the fans have had a rude awakening and their eyes opened. That's a good thing. It will be interesting to see the ratings this week. Is there only one episode left? I don't watch any of this play out on television.
@Admin I don't think all of her fans are dumb,i just think some just don't give a crap and have this blind loyalty to Kate and because of this,they can't see the irony in how they complain about Jon going to the tabloids and "selling" his kids privacy.Yet when Kate does it,some how she's mother of the year or "brave"for telling people about it.I guaranteed you that if Jon did the PEOPLE cover discussing Collin,the fans would have an outrage but because its Kate,its cool.
Regardless where Collin is, wouldn't "they" let him come home for Christmas? The only scenario I can envision of him not being able to come home for a Christmas visit with his immediate family would be because he is violent.
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There are many other scenarios besides a violent child. A perfectly gentle and well behaved child (as we have seen Collin capable of many times on camera) may not be allowed to go home because the courts have deemed their parent not able yet to handle their special needs. A parent may have monitored visits, or just day-visit unmonitored. If a parent isn't allowed to be alone with the child overnight or even during the day, a Christmas visit off site is difficult.
That said, she should have been spending the bulk of those holidays with him at the facility, as much visitation as they will permit. I don't care how inconvenient it is for everyone else, a child is in grave need. Worst case scenario the other kids will learn an important lesson in being there for family.
No, you do not just happy up and get on with it when this happens. In fact, you disrupt your life to the very core until the one who is struggling is better.
@Admin I don't think all of her fans are dumb,i just think some just don't give a crap and have this blind loyalty to Kate and because of this,they can't see the irony in how they complain about Jon going to the tabloids and "selling" his kids privacy
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I'm not really talking about the really entrenched freak fans like Milo. They're probably a lost cause.
I'm talking about more casual viewers who don't pay very much attention to the details we do. They haven't done a deep dive into the bigger issues here, until now. In many ways, the casual viewer who didn't want to go there, was keeping this show alive for so long.
whether Collin is with Kate, Jon, or in a facility, but I do want to know if he's okay ******* This. We're left swinging in the wind with Kate's usual smoke and mirrors- but this is a precious child that's been cast out of his home and family . It's worrying to say the least. Plodding and chugging sounds more ominous than hopeful. I am truly worried about what kate has done.
They haven't done a deep dive into the bigger issues here, until now. In many ways, the casual viewer who didn't want to go there, was keeping this show alive for so long.
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The question is, however, how long will the casual viewer keep this show alive? They didn't get it before, so are they going to get it this time around?
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So is the general consensus here that if someone does something terribly wrong, such as publicly announce something potentially harmful to another such as blasting information of the utmost privacy to a gossip magazine, that opens the door for others to continue with that harmful degradation?
That's not to say people won't do that. But do WE have to since our "mission statement" includes advocating protection of privacy, especially the privacy of children?
Yes, I am one of the many that just want to know that Collin is OK AND SAFE!
Reading the article about the place that Collin was suppose to be at was, frightening. But, I have hope that when Jon tweeted that all was good, I am praying that he won a victory in court to be able to see Collin and got the right to have him at home for Christmas.
I just read this online and thought about Kate and her use of physical discipline.
Whether or not to spank children is still a hotly debated topic in the Western world. The majority of people over 30 likely grew up getting a swat now and then (I did, though only for extreme transgressions), but as parents, some of us are wondering whether to spank our kids. Why?
Well, because a lot of people are turning to science for answers, and it turns out that spanking could actually hurt – and more than in the physical sense. In many cases, being spanked made kids more rebellious, instead of encouraging them to fall in line.
Experts at the University of Texas and the University of Michigan recently concluded a study, which was published in the Journal of Family Psychology and analyzed five decades of spanking research conducted on around 160,000 children. It concludes that children who are spanked often are “more likely to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems, and cognitive difficulties.
Researcher Elizabeth Gershoff stated that the study defined spanking as “an open-handed hit on the behind or extremities,” and not what most people would consider potentially abusive behavior.
And the results were not great.
What it all boils down to is that the more often adults were spanked as children, the higher the likelihood that they would develop a host of negative outcomes, including mental health issues, later in life. Gershoff added:
“We found that spanking was associated with unintended detrimental outcomes and was not associated with more immediate or long-term compliance, which are parents’ intended outcomes when they discipline their children.”
And the cycle goes on, because we also know that adults who were spanked are more likely to support the same kind of punishment when rearing their own children.
And it gets worse.
The authors of the study compared the negative effects of spanking with those of true physical abuse in childhood, and the two were associated with the same harmful outcomes, to a slightly lesser degree.
Yet, people still believe it helps.
A 2002 survey on corporal punishment conducted at the University of North Carolina shows that nearly 80% of preschoolers experienced spanking as a form of discipline, and nearly 50% of 8 and 9-year-olds had been hit with objects like paddles or switches.
NBC News did a poll in 2013 that found that 81% of Americans believe spanking is “sometimes appropriate.”
For the record, corporal punishment is “technically legal” in all 50 states.
“Statutes vary from state to state but generally say that the physical punishment must be reasonable or not excessive, although Delaware passed a law in 2012 that said it couldn’t cause any injury or pain. Proposed legislative bans in several states have failed to pass, and courts have generally upheld parents’ right to spank.”
Researchers like Gershoff are hoping that, as their studies become more widely read, people will think twice about spanking their kids.
“We hope that our study can help educate parents about the potential harms of spanking and prompt them to try positive and non-punitive forms of discipline.”
Parasailing Panic! See How Kate Gosselin’s Son Aaden Helps Her Get Through a New Meltdown
BY BRIANNE TRACY
I saw the trailer. Another infamous crying like a baby, doesn't want to do it. Even told the guy that she wanted to determine the height of how high the parasail should go and she told him, EVEN if they say different. Talking about the kids.
Aaden rode with her and he reminded me SO MUCH of Jon because of his laid back attitude dealing with her. and she actually asked Aaden, Will you protect me? What in the world is wrong with her? Is she afraid that she has beat them and verbally abused them all these years and she is afraid that they are going to leave her as soon as they get old enough to?
I think she really is scared that is going to happen down the road.
It's not the kids fault, it is totally her own fault. She can only blame herself.
Why would you be cooking Christmas food and then run to the closet and start organizing your many mini sweeping pas, brushes and swiffer mops?
That is the last thing anyone normal would do. ****** The tableau that Kate chose for Christmas day-that of a broom closet- is as weird as Kate.
Re-Collin. I think the public is very curious to know if Collin is OK, and whether or not he sees his mother and/or father, and siblings. If Kate was able to report that she's such a wonderful mother that she sacrifices to see him and help in with his well being, she would have broadcast it writ large. The fact that Kate splashed Collin's news on the front of People magazine and has basically said nothing about him since does not bode well. So yes, I think before anyone give Kate one more second of publicity, fame or money, she should be more transparent about what's happened to her child! 7 siblings remain estranged from their own brother, and Kate's acting like it's no biggie, "choosing happiness". HUH?????? This is effed up! I'm trying to imagine another child exploiting fame whore who would be able to foist this bullcrap on the public and be able to collect paychecks after. Who? Amy Roloff ever send a kid away who wasn't heard from for 6 months? Tori Spelling? Any "real" housewife? IF Kate decided to stop the sh*t show and filming, I don't think it would be as germane. But, she's filming and putting out Twittersodes like all is well. This is as much about Kate's gaslighting as anything else. But, this time, the matter isn't whether or not she's boning Purse Boy. This is about a 12-year old boy. The question, "what's happened to Collin?", can not remain unanswered. Kate needs to do a little quid pro quo. I'm a bit worked up over Collin because I'm getting more and more convinced that Kate has no designs on bringing him home so that she can continue filming the other kids as long and as much as she can. Enough.
I am only speculating but I don't think C was "spanked" I think his abuse was a lot worse. If she willingly picked him up as a two year old by his hair and then spanked him I can only imagine what hell he has been through since then.
While being strapped in to the hooks of the parasail, the TLC star then bursts into tears and says, “I really don’t want to do this.”
“I’m just sitting on that boat sobbing because I so wanted to do it and I was so afraid,” Kate explains. “That was like true fear.”
With the help of some words of encouragement from her kids, and especially her son Aaden, 12, Kate faces her fears and decides she’ll join in on the parasailing fun.
As Kate and her two kids are lifted into the air, she starts panicking and crying again. Aaden can be heard next to her telling her to “relax.”
“I had to tell her ‘It’s okay’ and ‘We’re not going to die,’ ” Aaden says of having to help his mom calm down.
Aaden also tries to help Kate by pointing out the beautiful view that they could see from above.
“I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.”
She adds: “I’m pleasant, aren’t I?”
Luckily, Kate lands back safely on the boat with everything intact— except maybe her pride.
I just saw an ad for TLC New Year. It featured LPBW, Outdaughtered, The Little Couple, Sister Wives, Jazz, Big Fat Fabulous Life, Cake Boss, the new Tyler Perry show, 600-pound life, etc. Every TLC show I could think of except for K+8. The Little Couple has a contract dispute, and I haven't seen Jazz or BFFL or Cake Boss in a long time, but they were there. Not Kate. Isn't that interesting? Did they forget her (like they forget to run ads for her show), or is she out?
@TLC stinks Thats another thing to,can you image if Jon had these random over dramatic crying over things that he fears?Im sure the fans would call him a huge p***y for crying about it.But some how,Kate doing it is entertaining.
Okay, so this clinches it for me. She didn't have (all) the kids on Xmas Day, she just posted a little film of Mak with his presents, which she explained were opened Xmas Eve so the dogs would have something to play with? Like they don't already have scads of toys? Excuse me, bullshit.
kateplusmy8 We did dog presents on Christmas Eve so they'd have stuff to play with on Christmas😂! Mak stole the show..acting like he's been opening presents for years! Then, he played with all his toys happily! I could just eat him up! Such a cute guy! One of our favorite memories this year!!! On another note, Nanuq and Shoka don't get the present opening thing.. Despite a treat being hidden inside each one! #EachOneIsDifferent #LoveThemAll #HumanFurFeatherKids
"One of our favorite memories this year"? She's now categorizing and ranking the memories of the whole family? What a stupid thing to say. Speak for yourself, K8, your kids don't need you to tell them which are THEIR favorite memories. And OMG, the ridiculous hashtag usage again. Give it a rest, you phony.
Admin (#79), TFW claimed that what happened with C brought them all closer together. But maybe she meant that in a creepy way -- he's gone, and now we're this newly configured group of K+7, and whoo boy, are we havin' a ball! Best birthday party ever! Funniest episode ever! Happiest Christmas ever!
Look how easily TFW dropkicked Jon's behind out of all of their lives without a second glance. We thought she wasn't capable of doing that with a child, but I think we were overestimating her mental illness. And no, I'm not being flip -- she is mentally ill. Make no mistake, she's done irreparable damage to those children's minds and hearts.
The ongoing parentification of those children is sickening. Is A supposed to be acting as her husband in that parasail clip? Her father? Her best friend? Why is someone with 41 years on the planet relying on emotional support from someone with only 12?
I can't imagine what happens when one of those kids has a problem or issue they'd like help with. Being bullied at school? Struggling with keeping up with challenging work in class? Having a fight with a best friend? Interested in a boy or girl romantically and trying to navigate that world for the first time? Is TFW any kind of loving, supportive authority figure? Or does she just vacillate between dictator and helpless child?
I sent an email to TLC viewer relations complaining about them airing the show like Collin never existed. I told them they were disgusting keeping her on the air when the kids are in distress. It probably won't make a difference, but it made me feel better.
“I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.” ======== It seems that in just about every episode she's bemoaning the fact that she can't really swim. LEARN THE F^CK TO SWIM THEN!
I just watched the dog video and it's got 11.5K views but only 15 comments. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. BTW, the video of my puppy opening presents was cuter because he actually "stole" them from under the tree and ran to his bed to open them. We didn't have to toss them to him like TFW does in her video.
“I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.” --- If Kate REALLY & TRULY feels that it could be unsafe, then why in the world is she allowing her 12 year olds do it?
Rainbirdie said... 107 “I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.” --- If Kate REALLY & TRULY feels that it could be unsafe, then why in the world is she allowing her 12 year olds do it?
NJGal51 said... 105 “I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.” ======== It seems that in just about every episode she's bemoaning the fact that she can't really swim. LEARN THE F^CK TO SWIM THEN! ***********************************************************
Hmmmm... I don't think so. The instructor has to be o.k. with Kate spitefully telling him (or her) how to do their job.
“I had to tell her ‘It’s okay’ and ‘We’re not going to die,’ ” Aaden says of having to help his mom calm down.
Aaden also tries to help Kate by pointing out the beautiful view that they could see from above.
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In case anyone is confused, Aaden is her 12 year old son, not her father. She is in her 40's.
And yes I agree with Flimsy, it's concerning when you wonder how children so parentified will look to her to be THEIR emotional support. To confide in and seek advice from about things like girlfriends and boyfriends, educational decisions, friendships, religion, life. SHE is supposed to emotionally support her children, not the other way around.
I haven't watched the clip from the new episode, but it's seems like it's just typical "Kate drama". Kate freaks out, and gets on the "please pity me", "I'm was so scared" bus.
She has more meltdowns than all of her kids combined. How she can expect anyone to relate to her is beyond me.
It's okay to have fears, but Kate uses it as her "schtick". She's not "facing her fears", she's using them to highlight herself, and making her children feel responsible for calming her down.
I'm sorry, but that's not how parenting works. It's the parent who is supposed to calm the child's fears--not vice versa.
But then again, Kate is more of a child than her own children.
And yes I agree with Flimsy, it's concerning when you wonder how children so parentified will look to her to be THEIR emotional support. To confide in and seek advice from about things like girlfriends and boyfriends, educational decisions, friendships, religion, life. SHE is supposed to emotionally support her children, not the other way around.
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I remember when they were on the battleship and she asked them if they were going to take care of her in her old age. Who says that to a young child?
I do think a big part of her thinks that just behaving normally on some kind of outing makes for boring tv. I think she really feels pressure to manufacture some kind of drama, and it seems the only thing she can think of to do is to act all freaked out, over and over. Boring.
I am only speculating but I don't think C was "spanked" I think his abuse was a lot worse. If she willingly picked him up as a two year old by his hair and then spanked him I can only imagine what hell he has been through since then.
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There are photos of her with the empty tube and that tabloid shot of her pulling up her daughter's dress to spank her (the whistle incident).
In addition to her yanking Collin around, I don't doubt that she has walloped those kids over the years.
Tomorrow,TLC is doing a Kate plus 8 marathon at noon.Most likely to try to get people to watch the new episode at 10.Not sure if that will help Kate.But thanks to Kate's PR person siobhan R for reminding us. Siobhan R @SiobhanR111 #KatePlus8 marathon on Tuesday Dec 27 starting at noon on @TLC ahead of a brand new episode at 10pm! I'll be watching! @Kateplusmy8
Why is it that in most of the clips and stills, Kate continues to look like the Shrek donkey? I always giggle when I see pictures of her with that wide, toothy grin!
KIAT (#120), excellent sleuthing as usual! Thanks for confirming what many of us thought -- that just because TFW uses the word "tradition," doesn't mean it actually is one. Of course someone could argue, maybe she went to church all those other years, and didn't share that on Twitter. And to those people, I would say, I've got a fantastic bridge in Brooklyn that I'd like to sell you.
So Siobhan will be watching 13 hours of non-stop Kate? Kind of overkill, don't you think? Gladys and the mini-sheep would be delighted, but I'm not sure if other fans have the stomach for this.
I noticed that TLC is running banner ads across the bottom of the screen for K+8, even though there are no commercials for it (I was watching Extreme Couponing today). There is a marathon of the show tomorrow, and since it's a beach trip the men (and Milo) can tune in to see Kate in a bikini. It's the last episode that will air while people are on holiday break, and People is airing clips. If this episode doesn't do well, then the show is really done. There is promotion, and people can stay up to watch. Nothing stands in the way of it doing well, ratings-wise. This is when we get to see whether people are really just over K+8 and don't watch by choice, or if advertising and air time are the problem.
The marathon is actually only running from noon to six. Then it's LPBW (3 episodes), Outdaughtered (1 episode) and then the K+8 beach episode at its regular 10 PM time slot.
There is a marathon of the show tomorrow, and since it's a beach trip the men (and Milo) can tune in to see Kate in a bikini.
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I always thought that Milo is a man. Those gray 'slacks' with the knife crease were a dead giveaway.
I wonder if Stephanie had a good holiday. I had been planning on taking a fruitcake to her since she's only 2.8 miles from me, but I got so busy that I forgot. Admin, have you heard from her recently?
So is the general consensus here that if someone does something terribly wrong, such as publicly announce something potentially harmful to another such as blasting information of the utmost privacy to a gossip magazine, that opens the door for others to continue with that harmful degradation?
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Don't straw man. What was said, is that caring people wondering where Collin is, is natural and comes from a place of concern, not from a place of malice or trying to further the damage. That's all.
Don't straw man. What was said, is that caring people wondering where Collin is, is natural and comes from a place of concern, not from a place of malice or trying to further the damage. That's all. ---------------
Don't whitewash. There is continual speculation as to where he is, if he's going home, when he's going home, will he film, won't he film, is he getting visitors from family. It's unnecessary and intrusive. What's wrong with expressing one's sadness at the situation and then leaving him in peace?
I haven't watched any of the shows and I don't look at her IG. Is Jamie still her bestie, and are Andrea and Deanna still around? I read some comments that Jamie was at her house making those famous cinnamon rolls, so it sounds like Kate hasn't yet kicked her to the curb. I wonder why Jamie has stuck by her side all of these years. Steve is an adult who is in it for the money, and who knows what else, but apparently she and Jamie are two peas in a pod.
Don't whitewash. There is continual speculation as to where he is, if he's going home, when he's going home, will he film, won't he film, is he getting visitors from family. It's unnecessary and intrusive. What's wrong with expressing one's sadness at the situation and then leaving him in peace?
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I fail to follow how it's "intrusive" for someone to simply wonder where a kid is. I don't get that. I find speculation about WHAT is wrong with him, if anything, far more inappropriate than simply wondering who he spent his holidays with.
And I never said it's okay to speculate about any of this. In fact, people probably shouldn't on the off chance it takes off and adds to the kid's burdens, and if you notice, I've tended to avoid those lines of conversations myself.
What I said was, the reason people want to know where he is is not because they care where he is or like to speculate, but because they want to know he's OKAY. People CARE about this boy. In fact, one of the only good things I can think of about this situation is I've seen many of the fans themselves put aside everything else and express a very deep and sincere level of caring for him. Even such that they'll forgo loyalty to Kate. They are, for the first time, changing the channel on her, actively, intentionally. It's amazing. I honestly never thought they would question her handling of this. So many of us agree he isn't being treated right in this situation, fans and "haters" alike, it's an important point, and it's more important than all the other ways we disagree when it comes to the Gosselins.
I don't care if you are in Nevada or New York or New Jersey, but if I know that you are only okay in New Jersey, then yes, I'm going to wonder if you are in NJ. It's not me caring two hoots WHERE you are, but rather, me caring.
That said, I'm not going to run this place like a stuffy school teacher drawing arbitrary lines in the sand about what is and isn't okay to discuss. The blog has its rules, people follow them, and they should be able to have free reign to take the discussion where it goes, within reason. If it gets out of line, that's for the mods to decide. As always, concerns about the blog should be emailed to me. It's not productive to scold people for their line of conversation, especially when you don't moderate this place and get to decide that. It is helpful, however, to give people the benefit of the doubt in terms of where the speculation is coming from. Why not ask them why they're wondering about this or that? You might learn something.
Andrea and Deanna still around? I read some comments that Jamie was at her house making those famous cinnamon rolls, so it sounds like Kate hasn't yet kicked her to the curb. I wonder why Jamie has stuck by her side all of these years
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I can't speak for Jamie, but I liked how she handled some of the situations on the RV trip, including calling it correctly when the kids were squabbling. Her kid was being picked on by the girls, point blank, and she was fair in arbitrating that when Kate never was.
Anyway, I do believe Jamie cares about the kids, and sometimes people stick around in bad situations just to kind of keep some oversight on it. I witnessed this with an unstable family member. Few people actually enjoy this person's company because they are so odd and difficult, but they do it because it's family and they want to be around the situation and know what is going on and be able to help at times, rather than remove themselves and not be able to help because they don't know what's happening.
Jamie also could be just another lackey, though, but I do think at least some of the people who stuck around Kate, stuck around because better to keep an eye on things than not.
I'm not sure whether Milo is a man or not, but I know (s)he is not a mom. She shows such a lack of caring about the kids' well-being, I just can't see a mother acting that way.
Milo, whether a man or woman, has some out-of-control lustful feelings for Kate. From the body comments and the bikini comments, the time (s)he wanted to see Kate ride a tractor wearing Daisy Dukes...yikes!
How did the parasailing work? My sister and niece went when niece was 13. She wasn't allowed to go up without an adult. So was Aaden the only one to go parasailing or did TLC pay the company to break all the rules? But Kate is not cute with the dramatics. There are millions of things to do for fun in this world. Pick something where you don't scream and cry. You're supposedly a producer. Of course Aaden is over it. She probably screams like that for a crumb on the floor.
Hahaha I hope this link works for everyone but if you go to the link,its a twitter post by TLC,wishing everyone a happy holidays from all the TLC families....EXCEPT for Kate and the kids.They aren't in it. https://twitter.com/TLC/status/813591195553320960
I wish I could see better, and I wish my computer worked better, and I wish someone paid me to do a comparison over time between the ratings of K+8 and 19 Kids/Counting On. Those two shows have dumped viewers and advertisers alike. There is no reason either should be on the air. 19 Kids/Counting On had viewers boycotting advertisers so TLC was down to only a couple of advertisers and the rest of the time they were advertising the rest of their shows to the extent that you though that another show had started, until suddenly the Duggars were back and you looked at the clock in confusion. The Duggars keep marrying off daughters and having grandkids which is something Kate can't do yet, and in fact, she is dumping kids. She does add dogs, however, so that's something. The Kate RV trip a few years ago was so obvious that TLC was done with her and they were showing her in all her glory. They let her do herself in. She was a long time returning. Poor Colin. I still feel so bad about him bringing his mom a present on a vacay in Mexico last year, I think, and she was so distainful of him and the present. My heart broke for the kid. I'm into numbers and I'd really love it if I had thought to do a ratings, advertiser comparison.
Sad but true said... 98 Okay, so this clinches it for me. She didn't have (all) the kids on Xmas Day, she just posted a little film of Mak with his presents, which she explained were opened Xmas Eve so the dogs would have something to play with? Like they don't already have scads of toys? Excuse me, bullshit.
******** Our dogs get toys from time to time, but I've NEVER encourage them to unwrap a present. I come home with a bag and make a big fuss, then pull it out, and they are in heaven! We are VERY lucky in that we've never had a dog disturb a Christmas tree or tear open wrapped presents. I'll try to keep it that way, thank you!
Why didn't she just ride in the boat and let the kids enjoy it? ****** I know I don't need to answer that here! Nah, Kate needs to be able to pat herself on the back and brag on her basement throne! Meanwhile, Jon would be stoked, hooting and hollering doing something like that with his children!
Look how easily TFW dropkicked Jon's behind out of all of their lives without a second glance. We thought she wasn't capable of doing that with a child, but I think we were overestimating her mental illness. And no, I'm not being flip -- she is mentally ill. Make no mistake, she's done irreparable damage to those children's minds and hearts. ***** This is exactly why I think the public has to make Kate be accountable to what happened to her child. With her mental illness, she's acting like this has been the best year of her life and her kids lives. It's sick. Any normally developing child would be profoundly affected by the loss of a sibling. And that's EXACTLY what it is. Collin is gone. Not away for a week or even a month. 6 months, at least. That is a devastating life event for anyone, let alone children. But, you know, puppies!! trips!!! puppies!! I really hope at least the kids that see Jon can open up and grieve when they're with him, because Kate sure as hell won't allow it.
It seems that in just about every episode she's bemoaning the fact that she can't really swim. LEARN THE F^CK TO SWIM THEN! December 26, 2016 at 1:49 PM ******* The sad thing is that I think for Kate, it's a vanity thing. She loves prancing around and showing off her bod, but there's absolutely no fun in it. Let alone the practical aspect of being able to save your children! You know she's never done it all alone.
In addition to her yanking Collin around, I don't doubt that she has walloped those kids over the years. December 26, 2016 at 4:29 PM ****** This is the same woman who thought, "whoo hooooooo!", I've got back-up implements in my car with which to strike my children!!!" Yay.
I wonder if Stephanie had a good holiday. I had been planning on taking a fruitcake to her since she's only 2.8 miles from me, but I got so busy that I forgot. Admin, have you heard from her recently?
Don't straw man. What was said, is that caring people wondering where Collin is, is natural and comes from a place of concern, not from a place of malice or trying to further the damage. That's all. ***** Kate needs to be held accountable, period. If she wants to peddle this crazy notion that their lives are the bestest ever, with puppies and birthdays and fun trips, she should stop the G-D gaslighting. I have no reason to believe that what's happened to Collin isn't the same thing that Kate has done to countless other people in her life. Kate Gosselin tosses people away like trash, and I think (now) that's what happened to Collin. Get rid of the people who stand in your way, and keep the gravy train on the tracks. Enough ignoring the elephant in the room. This is a 12-year old child. I will NEVER stop demanding answers, not because I'm a nosy busy-body, pearl-clutching Gladys, but because of Kate's history of tossing people to the curb and marching on like they NEVER even existed.
What's wrong with expressing one's sadness at the situation and then leaving him in peace? ****** Because that is EXACTLY the righteous indignation that Kate Gosselin uses to keep people in line, to shut them up so that she can continue selling her remaining children's lives. It's that silence that's kept this woman's pursuit of fame on the backs of her children alive. Kate Gosselin depends on our collective silence and SHAME in wanting to know where her 12-year old son is. No me, hon. Not me.
I think Kate plus 8 has become unwatchable: A bratty, 40+ Year old mother reacting like an 8 year old child, with her bratty, unappreciative, entitled family getting EVERY wish granted....Taking up a lot of space in our planet, sucking up resources, and continuously serving no one but themselves.
How the HELL does that make for a "feel good" program? It used to have a train wreck or car wreck effect, where you had to watch to see how such a big family manages day to day. Now, it's at the stage where you have to turn away. It has become a cautionary tale- what happens to a beautiful family when you value money & fame over family, and friends.
I've put my foot down long ago, and stopped watching TLC. I will not support Kate's foolish folly, and the tv channel that has been taking advantage of those 8 precious lives.
Because that is EXACTLY the righteous indignation that Kate Gosselin uses to keep people in line, to shut them up so that she can continue selling her remaining children's lives. It's that silence that's kept this woman's pursuit of fame on the backs of her children alive. Kate Gosselin depends on our collective silence and SHAME in wanting to know where her 12-year old son is. No me, hon. Not me.
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It's KATE who wants to whitewash this. Wants to throw out some standard spin about how the family y is closer than ever and is choosing happiness, and expects the public to just move on.
They're not, and it's a good thing. By asking questions and refusing to tune into the show, they are sending a very strong message that no, the public does not accept a mother discarding her child. No, the public does not accept a mother profiting off of discarding her child. And no, the public does not accept a mother moving on with filming without said child. No means no, and it's exactly because some of the public WON'T accept her whitewashing that this show is tanking. Bravo.
Asking questions, taking a stand and demanding answers should be encouraged, not scolded. Without it, this show would be getting a lot better ratings than it actually is, so thank God some people were willing to take that stand instead of just saying to themselves, well, no, I don't want to be a busybody.
Asking questions, taking a stand and demanding answers should be encouraged, not scolded. Without it, this show would be getting a lot better ratings than it actually is, so thank God some people were willing to take that stand instead of just saying to themselves, well, no, I don't want to be a busybody. ****** Evil is allowed to exist when good people stand by and do nothing, or something like that! I won't be shamed into silence. What I know as sure as I'm sitting here, is that Kate Gosselin would use her sacrificing for Collin, taking time to see him and doing the necessary things to help him, to her advantage. I truly, truly believe that Collin is just like Kate's parents, her siblings, Beth, Jon and ALL the other people who don't know how to help her: disappeared.
Tucker's Mom (#143), TFW seems to think as long as she keeps paying lip service to how much she cares about her kids, we won't notice what's actually going on in her house. Saying, "I BREATHE for my kids" or "I'm nothing without my kids" means jack snot if you toss a child away, and act as if he never existed, and have more fun than ever in his absence.
I'm still not sure how our genuine concern for C is somehow as bad as his own mother financially profiting for exposing his problems to the world. I've done nothing to press TFW for answers, nor tried to find C's facility online, nor hounded the press to get to the bottom of things. I'm just sincerely heartbroken at what has happened to this sweet boy, who showed such a loving, caring and sweet personality in the 10 years he appeared on TLC.
Kate gonna beef and whine on the boat and force her parentification on the kids.
CHUTE YEAH!
Aaden was so precious calming her down. He was so laid back that he reminded me so much of Jon!
CHUTE YEAH! Jon would have LOVED being the parent on that boat.
When TFW went up in the air, Aaden and a tup girl were with her. What is the episode about next week? Her screeching in town at a local business or out of state?
What I know as sure as I'm sitting here, is that Kate Gosselin would use her sacrificing for Collin, taking time to see him and doing the necessary things to help him, to her advantage. I truly, truly believe that Collin is just like Kate's parents, her siblings, Beth, Jon and ALL the other people who don't know how to help her: disappeared.
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And you know what, asking the question itself is really more important than actually getting an answer.
Kate (and TLC) is being sent a strong message, all over Twitter and social media, and not the half of which his actually from US, that fans and haters alike won't accept her whitewashing.
Continuing to ask, where is he, is he okay, when will he be back, did you visit him over the holidays, is he seeing Jon, is he seeing his siblings, why did you send him away, is he getting proper treatment, are you participating in the treatment, why are you filming without him.......regardless what her answer is, lets her know she is not going to get away with this. Following up these questions with a switch of the channel on the remote is a further demonstration that she's not going to get away with this. Because folks, she is COUNTING on people not asking questions, accepting her whitewashing, and moving on like she's moved on. She's counting on it. Every time someone on social media asks a question, they won't let her do that, and it's driving her bonkers.
In many ways, the reason Jon is where he is is because way too many people accepted her spin about him and moved on with her. This time, it's a fool me twice situation. This time, fans aren't going to be taken for a ride. Amazing to watch.
And you know what, asking the question itself is really more important than actually getting an answer.
******* It is! Enough is enough. Enough acting like you 12-year old boy being cast out of his home and family for 6 months isn't a very, very big deal. Even if this is for his own good, it is about as traumatic as life experiences get. Jeez, even think about his brothers and sisters and how devastating this would be, or at least, should be. Can anyone here imagine a sibling being sent away and not knowing where he is? And I do believe Kate is not telling Collin's brothers and sisters where he is. I do believe Collin has not been home, nor been visited by them.
Kate screwed up going public with Collin's situation. It backfired on her big time. Now she's trying to act like it's not an issue, hoping her viewers forget and move on, allowing her to continue the exploitation of the rest of her children.
Personally, I think we are doing Collin a disservice letting her get away with it. He knows the truth.
I think allowing Kate to write him out of her "storyline" is unforgivable. She also shouldn't be allowed to use his issues as a storyline. We need to give her the only option... not having a storyline at all. She needs to stop exploiting her children period.
Because folks, she is COUNTING on people not asking questions, accepting her whitewashing, and moving on like she's moved on. She's counting on it. ******** You betcha. That's how Kate is getting away with her typical non sequiturs and fuzzy logic. No one has the cajones to say, "that make zero sense, can you actually answer the question?", and don't forget, "Holy shit! You won't tell the father of your son where he is? WTF, lady!"
People are upset that she decided to film the birthday party, the beach, Space Camp, the insect museum and whatever is going to be on tonight.
Everything is hitting her all at once.
The backlash of the People cover.
The broadcasting (opening her mouth) about Collin's private medical crisis.
Twitter fans leaving in droves that you would of never thought that they would never leave her side.
The large outpouring of negative comments on TLC's Kate Plus 8 Facebook page.
TLC barely showing any ad support for the show.
Did not include Kate Plus 8 in the Merry Christmas video from TLC.
The backlash of her pictures deflecting about the kids, pretending that they are ALL in a room, far away, keeping busy. Does ALL include COLLIN?
Next should be, no more filming.
What is so sickening is, TLC has plenty of money. WHY didn't they just buy her contract out when they found out about Collin? That would of been a bargain for them because I hope when Collin turns 18, I hope he sues TLC/Discovery, his mother, Steve Neild, Figure 8, for filming him and basically destroying his childhood.
His mother, Steve Neild, Circle 8 and TLC/Discovery are all complacent, IMO, of continuing to film while she abused and verbally him (them) and forced him (them) to film and deprive him (them) of after-school activities.
I am so proud of Collin for having the courage to tell the people who are taking care of him what his mother and Steve, yes, Steve, what they did to him.
He did not stop her or report her. The money was too good to give up.
You can try what I did. Go to https://corporate.discovery.com/contact/viewer-relations/
I know the chances are slim, but it's worthwhile for them to receive a few emails. Plus I hope TLC is monitoring their Kate Plus 8 Facebook page.
I suspect the marathon is nothing more than filling air time during the post Xmas holidays than a grab for ratings tonight. I have railed against her for years, but this Collin situation is overstepping decency. And I agree, people need to ask questions and express their disgust. She needs to go! We cannot let Collin just disappear like all the others.
The marathon could hurt more than it helps. Now that so many people have their eyes opened, if they watch, they're going to see all these episodes in a whole different way. Bad behavior from Kate they previously overlooked they may no longer give her a pass on. I predict a lot of disgust on social media as the day goes on today.
The marathon is dumb because you can watch full episodes on the TLC site anyway, so why bother? The reruns worth watching are ones when the kids were little and Jon was in the picture, LOL, and TLC can't show those because of Jon so they are stuck with Kate screeching and doing couch interviews which are painful.
And I agree, people need to ask questions and express their disgust. ******** I find Kate's actions and answers when it comes to Collin to be specious, at best. It's actually offensive and indecent.
Golly- the People cover should have been cause for rebuke in and of itself, but unfortunately, it didn't. Look at the kids in their lily-white outfits! Look at the smiles! Their brother had just been sent away! This is NOT normal!
We cannot let Collin just disappear like all the others. ***** TLC Stinks- It is exactly because we have seen Kate throw people away like trash, that we should be asking "where's Collin?" She has the capacity to, and will, go on like he never existed. Kate has done this over and over and over again. That woman tears clothes. I don't ask that Kate don black and expect her children to live in mourning. But they are all seen to act like Collin isn't suffering, which is highly dysfunctional. They all appear to have no conscience.
Thanks for the link. More ingrate behavior. More girls being nasty to boys. More Cara being prickly with Kate, then picking lint off her clothes. That Aaden is such a nice kid. He gets shoved out of the way and just keeps on smiling.
OMG, the couch interview with the three girls! The middle one is talking. The one to her right is sticking her tongue out and the other one to her left if grimacing with pure disgust. Lovely.
When I was 12, my 18-year-old brother drove cross country with some friends for a 3-week summer trip. We weren't particularly close (although we are now) -- he was a cool teenager and I was the dorky little sister he often picked on. But I can remember how very much I missed my big brother, and how exciting it was when he finally came home.
The G kids have been short one sibling for about 6 months. For 5 of them, it's a same-age sibling. And for 2 of that 5, it's a fellow resident of their man cave, and part of an oppressed minority in that household. The G kids have traveled in a pack for most of their lives. I would even describe the group as "clannish." So I can't possibly imagine that C's absence is anything less than traumatic to many of those children. Is their mother a soft place to land with those feelings? I suspect not, when she's crowing about the superfun times they're all having without him. She is a horrible mother.
Did not include Kate Plus 8 in the Merry Christmas video from TLC. ======== TLC couldn't include the Gosselins in the Christmas montage because Collin wasn't there so they couldn't get the holiday picture in front of the tree. I'm sure TFW's head is exploding because they weren't included because they have PUPPIES and 2 puppies = 1 Collin.
Please, we took a segway tour in OBX a few years ago. It was really fun! And they give you a mini course on Segway operation so she is full of it. In fact you HAVE to do it unless you have their certificate dated within the last year saying you took it.
The left and right is more confusing than starting and stopping because it's sort of backwards. She is ridiculous.
Layla (#167), whoa, that is pretty significant. Everyone included for Christmas and New Year's but Schmoopy? But...but...but...she's America's Favorite Mom! She is known and loved throughout the world! She made TLC what they are today!
Only a few more hours until the new bestest, funnest, hilariousest, familyest adventure ever on K+8! Now with only 7 kids, so there's more air time for Mommy!
Layla said... 167 The ad for TLC New Year also did not include Kate and the kids. That one is a preview for upcoming 2017 shows. Everyone was there but the Gosselins. ****** Thank you, Santa! It might explain why Kate et. al. look pained in their basement throne interviews. Especially Kate. The producer needed to happy Kate up because she couldn't possibly be more monotonous and expressionless. Yada yada. Pay me. Bye.
I love how at the end one of the kids says "let's get these (fake boulders) for our back yard" and she says "yes we'll just have them delivered honey" as if that is the most RIDICULOUS thing in the world. Which it would be if you forget the crooked houses, the deck, the toy cars, the motorcycles, the solar panels, and on and on that were magically delivered. That's what these kids expect.
Oh and M was bitching about just wanting to turn back during the tour. SHeesh
Please, we took a segway tour in OBX a few years ago. It was really fun! And they give you a mini course on Segway operation so she is full of it. In fact you HAVE to do it unless you have their certificate dated within the last year saying you took it.
The left and right is more confusing than starting and stopping because it's sort of backwards. She is ridiculous.
Kate is truly phobic and really shouldn't attempt things like parasailing. It's awful enough that she has a full-blown panic attack, but in front of the kids is ridiculous to put them through. Not to mention she ruined Aaden and Cara's turn. If I saw someone hyperventilating, I would NOT strap them in in the first place. I think in the back of Kate's head she knows that her meltdowns get ratings. I mean, look, it's the damn trailer every time.
@NjGal51 Now that you said that,that could be a clue that Collin wasn't home with Kate for Christmas.UNLESS this is proof that TLC is done with her.I can't see why TLC wouldn't include Kate.
Tucker's Mom said... 160 Golly- the People cover should have been cause for rebuke in and of itself, but unfortunately, it didn't. Look at the kids in their lily-white outfits! Look at the smiles! Their brother had just been sent away! This is NOT normal! ************************************************************** It's not normal. If and when those kids start to reflect on their lives, it's going to hit them how crappy a situation it was.
The G kids have been taught since they were little to stop, drop, and smile when ordered to.
I remember a while back (when John was still in the picture), they all went on vacation to one of the Carolinas. They rented a house, body painted with pudding, John threw water balloon at Kate, celebrated July 4th etc...
Anyway, they were posing for a family shot, and of course the kids were cranky. One in particular was crying, and when I guess the photo was about to be snapped, she immediately flashed a wide smile.
Oh and M was bitching about just wanting to turn back during the tour. SHeesh 8***** I noticed one of the tup girls constantly looks at the camera, and I wonder if she's gotten self conscious, being on tv and realizing everything she does will be seen by all of her classmates. Love how Cara is still picking lint. Way to go, girl!
She's so wrapped up in her fears, etc... that she is holding her children hostage. They are going to really blossom when they leave that nest.
******* I just cringed when Kate berated her daughter for slowing down in front of her. It's like driving. You keep enough space and pay attention so you don't rear-end someone. She's the problem, but the poor kid gets castigated.
Kate's Fetid Soul (#178), those children are like trained seals. Circus monkeys. A dog and pony show. Except if they were real animals, there would be stricter rules in their contracts about their care and safety on the production set, and some regulation would have shut this whole thing down by now.
In the TLC Christmas clip, none of them include whole families. It could have included just a few of the Gs, but there was no sign of them.
In the clip where Cara calls Kate out for blaming her slowness on the kids, Cara is absolutely correct. There was nobody darting in front of Kate. Kate just automatically blames everything she does on the fact that she has 8 kids, and the kids are probably sick of being blamed for everything. Kate was slow, she should own it. It's mind-boggling to think that her go-to response to any question is, "I have so many kids".
and the kids are probably sick of being blamed for everything. ******* OMG, I can't even imagine. Everything she has is because of those kids, but she bitches about having them all the damn time. 'I'm dong it all alone". "I'm outnumbered" "It's not fair" and my favorite... "Everyone leaves but I can't"
I just looked at the Segway clip. If you watch the shot of them all coming toward the camera, single file, there is not one smile on a face. Not one. And K8 complaining about being worried a kid may stop suddenly? WTF? They were all well separated, not going fast, one can only surmise she complains for the sake of complaining or because she thinks it makes for good TV. Hey K8! It doesn't, nor do the clearly unhappy faces on all of your kids. Even the few comments on the K8 FB page are negative today.
"Chaotic" K8's life might be, but it has become supremely difficult to find the "fun" anywhere in this show. Throw in the towel, babe, you're definitely done.
I feel sad for Collin. I think if he was home for Christmas, Kate would be exploiting the hell out of it because she's got to know it makes her look bad if he's not or there's no mention of him. She'll do anything for a buck...sell a story to People and discuss Collin's issues, etc. Surely there are even sycophants out there who wonder about Collin and disagree with Kate filming with no care in the world about how it effects her son. I hope we know the true that about this evil woman one day. She should have at least taken the kids to see Collin for Christmas if he couldn't come home. Maybe because the facility wouldn't allow filming, this deterred her! I think if he was home or she went to see him, she'd exploit it to the hilt
Tucker's Mom (#186), when she said "everyone leaves but I can't," we found out there was a more to it. She can't leave, but she can send your butt away at any time, for as long as she needs to, and everything will go one without you as if you were never there, and there will still be as much chaotic fun as ever, if not more. It's still startling to me how I underestimated her evil streak.
Sad but true said... 188 I just looked at the Segway clip. If you watch the shot of them all coming toward the camera, single file, there is not one smile on a face. Not one. ******* I did notice that. Same for Space Camp. These are not happy kids. I'm guessing the stress of everything is getting to them. Divorce. Post-divorce acrimony. As ugly as it gets. Kids getting kicked out of school. Dad is sued by Mom. Constant filming of their lives and having to happy up and never mention Collin. Tabloid after tabloid. Their pain splashed across magazine covers and their own mother cashing in on it. The stress has to be overwhelming and Kate is NOT helping matters on many levels.
They were all well separated, not going fast, one can only surmise she complains for the sake of complaining or because she thinks it makes for good TV. Hey K8! It doesn't, nor do the clearly unhappy faces on all of your kids. Even the few comments on the K8 FB page are negative today. ****** Kate is one of those people who don't like to be miserable alone. She will crap all over everyone's fun until they are as unhappy as her. If she's not having a good time, ain't nobody having a good time. These recent episodes are making the general tone of that dysfunctional home very evident.
It's still startling to me how I underestimated her evil streak. ***** Me, too! The vibe I'm getting is not good. Some here thought she'd toss her kids aside like she did Jon and countless other friends and family, but I didn't believe it. Now, I do. WTH with not having your son home for Christmas? I think he's not allowed home, but am not sure exactly why. Wild horses couldn't keep my from seeing my son on Christmas.
When I saw one of the tup girls call Aaden "shorty" and yank him out of the way, I saw Jon's parenting right there. Jon has always taught the boys to never touch a girl. Never. Aaden and Joel are very kind boys and I can see Jon and his fathering in them.
Tucker's Mom (#192), and conversely, if TFW is having a good time, then screw you. If Mommy wants to go deep sea fishing, don't think your projectile vomiting is going to stop her. And she'll happily plan another trip to do it, knowing full well you got miserably sick the fist time. Because she's in charge, and that's never gonna change.
I wish the kids would be filmed sometime telling Kate, "I'm so sick of being picked on by YOU". Because she's always criticizing one or another of them. Or better yet, "I'm so sick of being responsible for supporting you. I've been working to pay your bills since I was a baby".
Kate is so ridiculous saying that Christmas is her one day per year when the kids are busy and she can do housework. The twins are 16. The younger kids are almost 13. They are not small children who need their mother to entertain them. They'd probably rather she left them alone. What is Kate going to do when they are adults? That's just 2 years away for the twins, and 5 years for the younger ones. What will be her excuse for not working a regular job? She can't make claims about child care expenses when they are grown. Whom will she blame for her own character defects? How can she claim to be exhausted all the time when there's nobody to take care of? How can she complain about having to cook so many pounds of bacon every morning when she's the only one there to be fed? And what excuse will she come up with for having to get up at 5:30am? She can't admit to sleeping in.
Perhaps she'll adopt 5 more dogs. Then she'll have 8, her favorite number. And she can blame them for everything.
Kate is so ridiculous saying that Christmas is her one day per year when the kids are busy and she can do housework. The twins are 16. The younger kids are almost 13. They are not small children who need their mother to entertain them ***** How great would it be if the kids actually could be sent off to visit with family? Stay with the grandparents for a weekend? Oh, wait...that's filming time.
How can she complain about having to cook so many pounds of bacon every morning when she's the only one there to be fed? ***** I think Kate will be berating the kids to come and stay with her. I see much guilt tripping in the kids' futures.
On the Kate plus 8 FB page, TLC posted to links to the parasailing clip and the segway clip. This one comment about the parasailing basically says it all:
"Kate you are a disgrace in front of your children. After all the expensive excursions TLC has paid for where you have had the opportunity to face YOUR over-dramatic fears (bungee jumping for eg.,) you still act like a childish moron in front of your children. I feel so sorry for your kids. You say to the camera that you want to teach your kids to be intrepid by showing them how YOU are facing your fears. However, you are doing it only for yourself to a) make the episode more dramatic and b)to take advantage of an opportunity that you are too cheap to pay for yourself. Your kids are sick of your whining, bawling and screeching. You have enough money to sit comfortably for the rest of your life. Get this idiot off TV. NOW."
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 656 Newer› Newest»Tucker's Mom (#180), that boy is actually less than 5 months from being a teenager. If he's nervous about his candle, it's because his mother has repeatedly drummed it into his head that he's an icky, dirty, smelly boy who is inherently less than his sisters. And it's not remotely an "LOL" situation -- it's actually quite sad.
Abuse isn't limited to hitting and shrieking and deprivation. I also think it's abusive when you hamstring a child's self esteem to the point of him walking on eggshells 24/7 -- even in church. I still think at least one of those boys is going to fall in love with the first girl who treats him nicely. He won't know what to make of it.
kateplusmy8 Merry Christmas one and all! Another great year of Christmas morning memories about to be made here....🎁🎄🎁 Can't wait!!! I must say, it's been quite a year for us, but we are (still) choosing happiness and focusing on our many many blessings to carry us through the season...!! Having said that,
ready, set, rip and tear....🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁
Photo of (fully) decorated tree and tons of presents the kids bought for themselves. And look, there's 8 of them. Merry Xmas, kids!
it's been quite a year for us, but we are (still) choosing happiness and focusing on our many many blessings to carry us through the season.
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IOW, no Collin ;-(
Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukkah everyone!
Gorgeous, yet a bit chilly, day in PA. Beats last year's warm pea soup!
My guess... that photo was taken last night.
I thought that candlelight service had to be taken on Dec 23 in the evening. Glad to hear I was right. She's playing the picture game that she has the kids.
Holy cow! All those presents! Wonder if they still have to sit in a circle and get one at a time. No doubt, as I stated previously, that was taken last night. Those kids could have been at Jon's last night for all we know.
And I have a bad feeling Collin is not included in that pile of gifts.
Is "choosing happiness" material things under that tree and those vacays?
The Aaden candle comment is just weird. What is he... three years old? Geez.
TLC stinks said... 6
I agree. I'm sure she wasn't up that early, nor would her kids be at their ages. She's working the PR for Xmas.
Looking again at that tree, very few ornaments and only white ones. Wonder how many colorful ones her kids have made in school over the years that never made it to the tree.
Doesn't look like they're going anywhere over break, so very likely no filming.
One cannot always simply choose happiness. Does she understand if people could there would be no depression in this world? Another insensitive and disconnected comment from tfw. I worry about how she is helping the siblings handle not having their brother around. I doubt they are free to mourn and grieve. Instead they are probably told to just happy up and get on with it.
foxy said... 189
Nice to hear Katie attended her yearly goin' to church with the kids. Who takes selfies in Church? She is nutzzzz. I hope it did not cause too much chaos for the parishioners who actually attend weekly plus the other programs the church offers.
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Wow, she really is desperate and inappropriate to be taking pictures of her kids in church. What a phony!
Happy holidays!
happy Holidays everyone
Amazing. Not a peep about Collin. That pile of gifts is overcompensation for lack of relatives' gifts and Collin. Bribery mixed in too. ALSO, a FU to Jon as in look what I can give the kids.
Noticed the tree was pretty bare with few ornaments. Always been that way. So lazy.
I bet Andrea and Jamie helped with the wrapping too!
Sorry. Christmas brain from my post on this page. Forgot the link...interesting and some things never change and they nailed it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3SQnCXWoas
Morally and ethically, Kate should have pulled the plug on filming when she knew darn well that Collin would be absent.
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It's clear that's how many of her fans wanted her to handle it, and why so many are appalled she is continuing on.
She really may have been better off taking a long hiatus and not resuming filming until Collin is back in the home. I think most of us expected the ratings to be bad, but this was a mandate from viewers. I firmly believe the ratings would have been outrageously better without this Collin situation. Also, waiting would have built up interest and curiosity such that viewers would tune in to see Collin back. And, there wouldn't have been a fleecing, because all of those appalled fans rather would have praised her for doing just the right thing. Kate will cut off her nose to spite her face every day of the week and twice on Sundays. That's Kate.
Oh, and here's the "Look, the kids are with MEEEE!" photo. Although this might have been taken last night, too. She loves to stage and deceive like that.
kateplusmy8 All unwrapped and playing with mini robot 'Cosmo'-- I'm in love with him too! #MerryChristmas🎄#AlexisPresent
Of course, you know where my mind went when I saw the word "beat." K8 had to answer this to be sure no one got the wrong end of the stick.
nikkit_bone1987 Has she beat him yet? He gets upset. It's really cute.
kateplusmy8 She did beat him at his game.. It was SO sad I told her to let him win next time! Lol! @nikkit_bone1987
Well, at least she made an effort to decorate the tree this year. The lights cover most of the tree and there are about eight ornaments (one for each kid I guess). She's got a new IG post with a picture of two girls playing with Cosmo the robot and she's in love with him.
<=====I woke up to a white Christmas this morning, Southwest style!
Cozmo is a $180 toy.
Admin (#10), arghh, I thought the same thing as I read that. Choosing happiness -- oh, what a brave little soldier she is.
How I wish she had chosen REALITY -- not the TV genre, but the reality that her child is away, and his condition was most likely exacerbated by a decade-long violation of privacy due to TLC's cameras. And that her 7 other children are still suffering and damaged from the continuation of this intrusion -- whether they "vote" for it every year or not.
Another rip-and-tear Christmas at G Manor. Eight kids, 7 kids, whatever.
A standard holiday visitation schedule is that holidays are split. I would have my child Christmas Eve through noon,then he would have her until I forget, that evening or the next morning. And this would rotate yearly. She just posted an IG showing her cleaning supplies saying she is organizing while the kids are playing...hopefully they will go to Jon's for dinner.
kateplusmy8 What am I doing you ask? I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year! A pure harmonious 'hush' falls about the house as the children play together peacefully in a far away room .. While I...organize and cook to the sounds of joyful Christmas music! Ahhhh the sounds of Christmas! It's a wonderful life! Merry Christmas to all.. And to all an organized happy house! 🎄🎄🎄🎄
Photo of mops and brooms---ah the life of the piecin' and patchin' single mom of 8! She's so full of crap I'm surprised she can even open her mouth. Only that one photo of the two girls, I don't know that I'm buying that all of the kids are home with Mommy.
TLC stinks said... 19
Since Alexis's own money probably paid for it, I have no issues with it. Though it's quite a price to pay for something that will either be broken or forgotten in a week.
And her comes the truth police. Busted again, K8, and by your BFF!
jamiepumpkin3 Don't think I have ever viewed that closet so clean & organized! Think it will be that way by the time I make it back?😂🎄😘
kateplusmy8 If you hop on the next plane, yes! If not, I fear not! Way to rain on my organized Christmas, Jame! 😜 @jamiepumpkin3
TLC stinks (#19), why am I picturing gift opening going something like this:
Girl 1: I got a Cozmo!
Girl 2: I got a FitBit!
Girl 3: I got a camera!
Girl 4: I got an iPad!
Girl 5: I got a GoPro!
Boys: We got Legos. Sigh.
Oooh, don't mention whipping. :)
tifanywalker@kateplusmy8 you need your own show to give people advice on how to keep things organized. As well as how to whip kids/spouses into cleaning shape!! 🎄
And TFW reveals how she chooses happiness -- having her kids shunted to another room as she cleans. Ho ho ho.
I don't think the kids are home. I want a picture with today's newspaper. Oh, and please get Zorro in the shot. Thanks!
Sad but true (#26), she sure can whip 'em into cribs, can't she?
That poor tweeter doesn't know that TFW doesn't have a spouse.
Perhaps she's confused because TFW appeared on Celebrity Wife Swap.
Doesn't look like they're going anywhere over break, so very likely no filming.
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Give it time. They still have another eight days until school resumes.
Kate is so full of crap. Once again she uses photos to create her MADE UP reality. I doubt everything she says. And she is playing the PR card. The more she posts, the more I am convinced Collin is not there. In fact, what she is posting is a slap to Collin. He ratted on her, therefore he will never be a part of her family again.
Tucker's Mom said... 5
Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukkah everyone!
Gorgeous, yet a bit chilly, day in PA. Beats last year's warm pea soup!
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That sunrise this morning was spectacular, even though it meant driving east was a bit hard on the eyes, blinding, in fact! In the 50s tomorrow!
Now that is insanity. Who organizes/cleans Christmas Day especially with eight/seven children to celebrate with. No doubt her few remaining fans will praise her for being sooo wonderful. Disgraceful that she does not even acknowledge that Collin is absent from all the fun.
Merry Christmas to all who yearn for a better future for the eight Gosselins.
bm
LOL. I wondered if the boys (2) got Legos. Again. How come Alexis rated the robot? Bribe?
So she is feeling sad for a robot - a toy, because Alexis beat him? Are you serious? She has to beat her own kids every single time they are playing anything and she has no pity for them but she feels sorry for an inanimate object. Yep, that's Kate Gosselin.
Sad but true said... 22
kateplusmy8 What am I doing you ask? I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year! A pure harmonious 'hush' falls about the house as the children play together peacefully in a far away room .. While I...organize and cook to the sounds of joyful Christmas music! Ahhhh the sounds of Christmas! It's a wonderful life! Merry Christmas to all.. And to all an organized happy house! 🎄🎄🎄🎄
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IF any of the kids are home, I think this is Katespeak for "I'm in my room with a jug-o-wine while the dinner that Katherine prepared is heating up in the oven"
bm (#32), oh, but TFW did acknowledge C, in her bizarre fashion. She said she's choosing happiness. That was her way of saying, we're short one kid, but, hey, it's all good!
Must all the other 7 choose happiness, too? Hey, guys, here's a way for you to not miss your brother -- PRESENTS, PRESENTS, PRESENTS!
TLC stinks said... 33
LOL. I wondered if the boys (2) got Legos. Again. How come Alexis rated the robot? Bribe?
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Did she say what the other kids got? Maybe each of them also got an expensive gift as well.
Disgraceful that she does not even acknowledge that Collin is absent from all the fun.
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Is he absent? Has she said that he didn't come home for the holidays, or that he is with his father?
About TFW's "harmonious hush" -- isn't the approximately 8 hours a day the kids are away every weekday during the school year enough quiet for her? She's so anxious to peddle her "chaotic fun" agenda that she forgets to worry about facts.
Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Happy Kwanze, or whatever you celebrate. It's gorgeous here today. We are hanging at my younger daughter's house. I'm sitting by the fire enjoying a glass of wine watching the grandkids play with their gifts. This is what life is all about. Kate doesn't have a clue and never will.
Boys: We got Legos. Sigh.
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Some of those sets are expensive and can set you back a pretty penny! Trust me, I know! I priced the Super Heroes The Shield Helicarrier building set. Good grief.
You know, for someone who has 106K IG followers, I wonder why not a single one of K8's 92 posts has ever exceeded +/-7,500 likes. And she's only come close to that number twice. InstaGram, can you explain that to us? :)
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Now that is insanity. Who organizes/cleans Christmas Day especially with eight/seven children to celebrate with.
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Someone who's not having company and does not enjoy spending time with her children. For all we know, kids are not even there.
If Collin was home, she would say so. Instead, it's like he never existed. Not even "we miss him". That kid, in her brain, is a turncoat and she will blame him if the show is cancelled.
Yep, Lego sets are expensive so I saved the ones my son got for Xmas for his child some day. I'm sure the kids (7) got expensive gifts to make an impression on them that mommy gives them more than their father with his mediocre job. It's not about love, it's about putting their father down and appealing to a child's greed. Look kids... when we film mommy has money to buy you tons of Xmas presents! That's the Xmas spirit in the Gosselin house.
Why she choose to focus on Alexis? Because Alexis is the next on the list that could sabotage the filming. And I don't believe Alexis is one that visits Jon often either.
What she ought to be doing instead of "organizing" is getting in the car and visiting her son (unless she is forbidden) which really is making sense.
Capecodmama (#40), why in the world are you WATCHING your grandkids play with their gifts? Wasn't that your cue to go in another room with a bottle of Mr. Clean and a box o' wine?!
You don't know nothin' 'bout "making memories," do ya?;)
Hopefully that room "far away" where the kids are playing is at Jon's house.
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Must all the other 7 choose happiness, too? Hey, guys, here's a way for you to not miss your brother -- PRESENTS, PRESENTS, PRESENTS!
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If he weren't there for Christmas, wouldn't you think that they would be missing his PRESENCE?
Why do I think that if the kids are with Jon today, they're not off in another room while he's tidying up the place? Does TFW ever think before she tweets that nonsense?
I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year!
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She's feeding the chaotic fun narrative, yet doesn't stop to think how this sounds.
If the ONLY time you have peace and quiet, and joy, with your children around, is one day a year, you are doing something very, very wrong. These children are not screaming toddlers. They are teens and almost teens, and are very capable of being calm, responsible, disciplined, gentle, and quiet. She can work to have a calm and joyful household. She chooses not to, because she thinks it will make boring TV.
She's horrible. Bragging about choosing happiness with her son gone. I had a niece become very, very ill at age 7. It changed our lives completely. I can remember those holidays, including her as best we could. We found happiness in many things but there was always some sadness too because our amazing girl was non-responsive. We are very lucky and she is better now but I remember those terribly mixed emotions. Kate has no heart at all. I bet the other kids have mixed emotions that they can't express to her.
She must be a nightmare for service providers to deal with. She seems to think so many things can be willed away. Hard to believe she has patience and understanding for issues with Collin that he may really struggle to help. Some are likely the way he was born, some are a product of HER poor parenting choices. Collin can't will his issues away and her comments along the lines of mind over matter are in many ways a subtle dig. SHE has things under control, others don't for some reason.
Admin (#49), even worse: TFW says she's celebrating peace quiet and joy because her children aren't around! They're off playing, and she's savoring the silence! What in the blue dilly heck?
If only poor C had "chosen" to behave well, instead of making things so very difficult for his mother, perhaps he would've been allowed to stay. I honestly think that's what she believes in her heart of hearts...if she's even got one.
TLC (44): "If Collin was home, she would say so. Instead, it's like he never existed. Not even "we miss him".
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I disagree. I don't think that she would. Not at this point in the game and after all the grief she has gotten about sending him away. All it would do is to open up a can of worms about sending him away, why she doesn't visit him, when will he be home permanently and so forth. Nope. She's not saying anything about him, and it really isn't anyone's business where he is today. Keeping that private is not a bad decision on her part.
There is so much speculation about Collin, whether she has visited him, if he's home, she should be doing this, or she should be doing that. Not to defend Kate, but hey, in reporting or not reporting where he is over the holidays, she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.
About the name on the birth certificate. I've known a gal since Kindergarten. The name given to her by her parents, and listed on her birth certificate, is Anna Marguerite. Nobody has ever called her that, not her parents, siblings, teachers, co-workers, employer. She is Maggie. I think if anyone addressed her as Anna or Marguerite, she'd claim she didn't hear them, or give them the old evil eye!
Is it me or does this IG comment sound either narcissistic cause she talks about how there is so many MES of her?She's happy about how many people are like her.kateplusmy8 Ahaha! I'm dying of laughter at all of your responses! There are many of me out there, just as I suspected! Lol! Lol! @jpeterson88 @tyleerussell @futurernneedscoffee @bkoepp23 @april_tennille @theformermrsjones
I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year!
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That's what brings her peace and joy and reason to celebrate? Having them quiet in another part of the house? What a horrible thing to say. What is wrong with her? She has healthy, beautiful children and she should be thankful that none of them is physically disabled or in wheelchairs; that they are able to make noise, run around, eat without a tube, breathe without artificial medical assistance, that none of them is blind nor deaf, but indeed are healthy kids who are alive.
She makes me sick.
LOL. That "far away room" must be at Jon's house. Because he got them for Thanksgiving, you can bet they are there with him today. She's so transparent.
2016 just had to take one more person... RIP George
Michael
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I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year!
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What happens on New Year's Day, Easter, and other holidays? Is there no joy or reason to celebrate? Poor thing.
Kate is such a doofus who never thinks before she opens her mouth. She never has, never will.
Regardless where Collin is, wouldn't "they" let him come home for Christmas? The only scenario I can envision of him not being able to come home for a Christmas visit with his immediate family would be because he is violent. Sorry to say that. But what am I missing, if I am wrong.
And if that is the case, then I assume something violent got him sent away. But that was over six to seven months ago. So he is still that way? Again, any thoughts?
Well for all the Howard Stern fans, RIP Joey Boots.
I'm celebrating the peace quiet and joy I only experience ON Christmas Day each year! KG
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If the ONLY time you have peace, and quiet, and joy with your children around, is one day a year, you are doing something very, very wrong. Very well said Admin!
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Wow, it is appalling that she posted that. Yes, something is very, very wrong. I hope the dead quietness is really because the kids are at Jon's and not playing elsewhere in the house.
Think about it, she has a very large, multi-level home. So her kids must be scattered often "playing", watching TV, doing homework, or doing other things. So why is this the ONLY day of the year for Kate to get peace, quietness, and joy?
It is horrible that she cannot receive joy and peace around her kids. It screams to the tremendous dysfunction in that home. Twelve and sixteen year old should be relatively quiet and relaxed every day of the year. I agree Kate really does not think before she posts.
OT, kind of...
Here you go, Kate...from our local paper online. These parents have a reason to celebrate. They didn't know if their child would be alive this Christmas, and you are celebrating peace and quiet because your healthy kids are not near you.
"Their first Christmas with their first child isn’t quite what Rick and Amanda Wagner expected. For the past six months, 8-month-old Sophia Rae has battled leukemia, undergoing a blood transfusion, chemotherapy and a bone-marrow transplant.
Sophia was born April 17. One weekend in July, she was acting fussy, so, thinking she had an ear infection, Amanda Wagner decided to take her baby to the pediatrician.
But the diagnosis she received was drastically different: leukemia.
She rushed Sophia to Lancaster General Hospital, where tests showed the child’s white blood count was at 676,000 compared to the normal 10,000.
“She had so many white blood cells in her body it was toxic,” Amanda Wagner, 30, said.
Sophia was airlifted to Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, where doctors went to work to fight off the leukemia.
There have been moments when Sophia’s parents didn’t know if she would still be alive at Christmas.
“I remember thinking that I was going to have to plan a funeral,” Amanda Wagner said.
‘Best possible scenario’
When Sophia was first diagnosed with leukemia, doctors told the Wagners their daughter had a 20 percent chance of survival and that a bone-marrow transplant would up those odds to 60 percent.
"(The doctors) tell you, 'This is what we have to do, and we’re hopeful that she’ll make it through this,'" Rick Wagner, 34, said. “That’s all they give you.”
On Nov. 10, Sophia was given a bone-marrow transplant from a female donor who was a 100 percent match. Between the transfusion and the transplant, not one drop of blood in Sophia’s body is hers, he said.
On Dec. 12, the Wagners got the best present they could have asked for when they learned Sophia is cancer free. She was discharged from the hospital two days later.
“In the words of the doctors, it’s ‘the best possible scenario we could have hoped for,’ ”Rick Wagner said.
Because of regulations, the Wagners must wait one year before they can reach out via a letter to the family of the bone-marrow donor.
“We have every intention of doing that. We would love to meet them. We’re super grateful,” Rick Wagner said.
A quiet Christmas
The Wagners say they could not have survived their ordeal without the support of family, friends and their medical teams.
Family and friends have helped in many ways, from raising money to mowing the lawn of their Ephrata Township home to organizing a prayer chain.
“We’ve run out of ways to thank everybody,” Rick Wagner said.
As for Christmas, it will look a little different this year.
Instead of large family gatherings, aunts and uncles and grandparents will take turns visiting Sophia, her parents said.
Even though Sophia was discharged from the hospital, the family is staying with a friend who lives close to Philadelphia, so they can be near in case something happens, they said.
Sophia will continue to be tested to make sure she remains cancer free.
“You can’t take life for granted,” Amanda Wagner said. “You have to appreciate everything.”
Sophia is blissfully unaware of the condition she’s in, her parents said. Throughout the whole process, she has continued to smile, even in the midst of treatments.
“The doctors call her a superstar,” Rick Wagner said.'
LOL. That "far away room" must be at Jon's house. Because he got them for Thanksgiving, you can bet they are there with him today. She's so transparent.
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It's a big house. Far away could be anywhere, even in the remodeled basement.
Leslie (60),
In my personal opinion (and speculation) if he's been apparently put in a behavioral health facility, I'm honestly thinking depression and ODD. And didn't Kate mention in the People article he moved into his own room?
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She's not saying anything about him, and it really isn't anyone's business where he is today. Keeping that private is not a bad decision on her part.
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Agree. At least this is being kept private. There is no need to know where Collin is, nor to guess as to the nature of his issues, nor if he is permitted to be home for Christmas.
We're all about privacy for the kids, and yet there are those who want to know if he is with Kate, with Jon, or if he is required to remain in the treatment facility. What is not needed is that this information is disclosed or leaked by an inside 'source,' and then it becomes fodder for more tabloid news and speculation.
Leslie,
Kate may not be allowed contact because of his abuse allegations which are under investigation. That could be the other scenario. It appears whatever is going on with Collin is pretty serious. He is not "just chugging along".
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We're all about privacy for the kids, and yet there are those who want to know if he is with Kate, with Jon, or if he is required to remain in the treatment facility. What is not needed is that this information is disclosed or leaked by an inside 'source,' and then it becomes fodder for more tabloid news and speculation.
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Well said.
Lynne In RI I just hope Jon's tweet where he said this,wasn't a tease or a lie and that something did happen that allowed him to see Collin and the other kids on Christmas.This tweet was from 11/21 Jon Gosselin
@jgosselin10
@nochanceofrain can't say much but all is good
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We're all about privacy for the kids, and yet there are those who want to know if he is with Kate, with Jon, or if he is required to remain in the treatment facility. What is not needed is that this information is disclosed or leaked by an inside 'source,' and then it becomes fodder for more tabloid news and speculation.
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Well said.
I do agree PA Mom (#66). I was speculating and wondering about Collin like most have been doing these past weeks. Unfortunately Collin will be labeled and put under a microscope when he returns to normal life. This may follow him for decades too. It is more than a shame. This is all on his mother. This beautiful 12 year old does not deserve everybody wondering what is "wrong" with him.
His doctors, friends, relatives, and teachers must have been shocked and horrified to see the cover of People magazine addressing HIS personal health problems with the world. The public should not know ANYTHING about this. Kate should have passed up filming this go around. She could easily afforded it. And I am sure TLC would have understood too. They have made a huge fortune from this family over the past decade. IF Kate had a contract that she had to fulfill before Collin had to be sent away then I think TLC would have worked something out with her. But no she wanted the money and her mug on our screens.
Leslie (#71), not only did TFW want the TLC money and the TV face time, I think it was an added bonus for her to get people's sympathy. Awww, the poor single mom is now struggling with something else. More attention, more how-does-she-do-it, more attagirls. A narc's dream come true.
And that might've worked, if she hadn't taken the added step of grinning like a chimp for a photo shoot and cover story for People, essentially exploiting and profiting off of her child's difficult and painful ordeal. I don't think she realized that her son is more than a part of a pack to viewers. He was someone they grew to care about. And her callous treatment of HIS struggle -- yes, she is effected, but HE is the one suffering the most -- seems to have backfired.
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I do agree PA Mom (#66). I was speculating and wondering about Collin like most have been doing these past weeks. Unfortunately Collin will be labeled and put under a microscope when he returns to normal life
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The public doesn't need to know what Collin's dx is, or where he is/was, but you bet the public is in the loop now because Kate made this VERY public.
I don't expect Kate to keep the public in the loop if it looks bad on her, or if she can't spin his situation to make her look good, but heck if that woman won't keep on filming while letting everyone assume he's back home when he's not.
To me, this isn't so much about being a neb nose, rather, it's about transparency, and about the public understanding the jig is up.
I never really believed that Kate would cast a child away as she's casted everyone and anyone who's stood in her way. Not deep down. But now, I think there's no plan to bring Collin home or keep him connected to his siblings. Not on Kate's part anyway.
Right, the best course for Kate would have been STFU about Collin and just stop filming. Nobody would have known anything. She's got some nerve (and Mady, too) complaining that Jon goes to the tabloids and she's all about her kids' privacy and Jon is not. Finally the lightbulb has gone off for many fans about what she is about.
She's got some nerve (and Mady, too) complaining that Jon goes to the tabloids and she's all about her kids' privacy and Jon is not. Finally the lightbulb has gone off for many fans about what she is about.
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I agree. I think it was laid out in very simple terms for the fans this time, and they got it. This is not hard to understand. Kate claims to be all about her kids, yet sends a kid with special needs away for an incredibly long time and then just says they've happied up and got on with life. Wha-WHA??! Kate also claims to be all about privacy, yet uses said child to sell People magazines. Kate gets mad at Jon for, without any evidence on her part, "selling" their privacy, yet turns around and sells their privacy every darn day.
They saw it because it was simple, because it was all laid out there, because it took two seconds to process it.
I'm not implying viewers are stupid, but because some of them are so casual and not paying attention, they miss a lot of the more nuances detail we've seen about why she's such a bad person who doesn't deserve a TV show. This one wasn't hard to explain. This was sort of like a pileup on the freeway. Hard not to notice as you drive by.
I personally don't have a strong desire to know whether Collin is with Kate, Jon, or in a facility, but I do want to know if he's okay. I think a lot of the sentiment of wanting to know where he is really just relates back to "I want to know he's okay." Wherever that may be.
Kate opened the door to him NOT being okay. Given that, I don't think it's fair to scold people for wanting to know if everything is all right for that sweet boy.
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We're all about privacy for the kids, and yet there are those who want to know if he is with Kate, with Jon, or if he is required to remain in the treatment facility. What is not needed is that this information is disclosed or leaked by an inside 'source,' and then it becomes fodder for more tabloid news and speculation.
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Yes, I agree. She should have just pulled the plug on filming when he was no longer able to be a part of the show. But she didn't, and she chose to make this public. However, although it's too late now to take back all of the info she made public, I don't think it's too late for her to just shut up about it, stop filming, wipe that silly "we're having so much fun" grin off her face, and just disappear. Yes, it would be like closing the gate after the horse has escaped, but at least the kids could get some privacy without being put out there for the amusement of the fans, and for the criticism of the public. At least some of the fans have had a rude awakening and their eyes opened. That's a good thing. It will be interesting to see the ratings this week. Is there only one episode left? I don't watch any of this play out on television.
@Admin I don't think all of her fans are dumb,i just think some just don't give a crap and have this blind loyalty to Kate and because of this,they can't see the irony in how they complain about Jon going to the tabloids and "selling" his kids privacy.Yet when Kate does it,some how she's mother of the year or "brave"for telling people about it.I guaranteed you that if Jon did the PEOPLE cover discussing Collin,the fans would have an outrage but because its Kate,its cool.
Regardless where Collin is, wouldn't "they" let him come home for Christmas? The only scenario I can envision of him not being able to come home for a Christmas visit with his immediate family would be because he is violent.
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There are many other scenarios besides a violent child. A perfectly gentle and well behaved child (as we have seen Collin capable of many times on camera) may not be allowed to go home because the courts have deemed their parent not able yet to handle their special needs. A parent may have monitored visits, or just day-visit unmonitored. If a parent isn't allowed to be alone with the child overnight or even during the day, a Christmas visit off site is difficult.
That said, she should have been spending the bulk of those holidays with him at the facility, as much visitation as they will permit. I don't care how inconvenient it is for everyone else, a child is in grave need. Worst case scenario the other kids will learn an important lesson in being there for family.
No, you do not just happy up and get on with it when this happens. In fact, you disrupt your life to the very core until the one who is struggling is better.
@Admin I don't think all of her fans are dumb,i just think some just don't give a crap and have this blind loyalty to Kate and because of this,they can't see the irony in how they complain about Jon going to the tabloids and "selling" his kids privacy
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I'm not really talking about the really entrenched freak fans like Milo. They're probably a lost cause.
I'm talking about more casual viewers who don't pay very much attention to the details we do. They haven't done a deep dive into the bigger issues here, until now. In many ways, the casual viewer who didn't want to go there, was keeping this show alive for so long.
whether Collin is with Kate, Jon, or in a facility, but I do want to know if he's okay
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This. We're left swinging in the wind with Kate's usual smoke and mirrors- but this is a precious child that's been cast out of his home and family .
It's worrying to say the least. Plodding and chugging sounds more ominous than hopeful. I am truly worried about what kate has done.
They haven't done a deep dive into the bigger issues here, until now. In many ways, the casual viewer who didn't want to go there, was keeping this show alive for so long.
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The question is, however, how long will the casual viewer keep this show alive? They didn't get it before, so are they going to get it this time around?
Kate opened the door to him NOT being okay. Given that, I don't think it's fair to scold people for wanting to know if everything is all right for that sweet boy.
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So is the general consensus here that if someone does something terribly wrong, such as publicly announce something potentially harmful to another such as blasting information of the utmost privacy to a gossip magazine, that opens the door for others to continue with that harmful degradation?
That's not to say people won't do that. But do WE have to since our "mission statement" includes advocating protection of privacy, especially the privacy of children?
Yes, I am one of the many that just want to know that Collin is OK AND SAFE!
Reading the article about the place that Collin was suppose to be at was, frightening. But, I have hope that when Jon tweeted that all was good, I am praying that he won a victory in court to be able to see Collin and got the right to have him at home for Christmas.
The pictures and what she said about the kids being in a far away room, and her organizing her swifters AND cooking at the same time, was insane!
Why would you be cooking Christmas food and then run to the closet and start organizing your many mini sweeping pas, brushes and swiffer mops?
That is the last thing anyone normal would do.
We all know how she speaks in code speak. The room far away? I think she was talking about Jon's.
I just read this online and thought about Kate and her use of physical discipline.
Whether or not to spank children is still a hotly debated topic in the Western world. The majority of people over 30 likely grew up getting a swat now and then (I did, though only for extreme transgressions), but as parents, some of us are wondering whether to spank our kids. Why?
Well, because a lot of people are turning to science for answers, and it turns out that spanking could actually hurt – and more than in the physical sense. In many cases, being spanked made kids more rebellious, instead of encouraging them to fall in line.
Experts at the University of Texas and the University of Michigan recently concluded a study, which was published in the Journal of Family Psychology and analyzed five decades of spanking research conducted on around 160,000 children. It concludes that children who are spanked often are “more likely to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems, and cognitive difficulties.
Researcher Elizabeth Gershoff stated that the study defined spanking as “an open-handed hit on the behind or extremities,” and not what most people would consider potentially abusive behavior.
And the results were not great.
What it all boils down to is that the more often adults were spanked as children, the higher the likelihood that they would develop a host of negative outcomes, including mental health issues, later in life. Gershoff added:
“We found that spanking was associated with unintended detrimental outcomes and was not associated with more immediate or long-term compliance, which are parents’ intended outcomes when they discipline their children.”
And the cycle goes on, because we also know that adults who were spanked are more likely to support the same kind of punishment when rearing their own children.
And it gets worse.
The authors of the study compared the negative effects of spanking with those of true physical abuse in childhood, and the two were associated with the same harmful outcomes, to a slightly lesser degree.
Yet, people still believe it helps.
A 2002 survey on corporal punishment conducted at the University of North Carolina shows that nearly 80% of preschoolers experienced spanking as a form of discipline, and nearly 50% of 8 and 9-year-olds had been hit with objects like paddles or switches.
NBC News did a poll in 2013 that found that 81% of Americans believe spanking is “sometimes appropriate.”
For the record, corporal punishment is “technically legal” in all 50 states.
“Statutes vary from state to state but generally say that the physical punishment must be reasonable or not excessive, although Delaware passed a law in 2012 that said it couldn’t cause any injury or pain. Proposed legislative bans in several states have failed to pass, and courts have generally upheld parents’ right to spank.”
Researchers like Gershoff are hoping that, as their studies become more widely read, people will think twice about spanking their kids.
“We hope that our study can help educate parents about the potential harms of spanking and prompt them to try positive and non-punitive forms of discipline.”
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Parasailing Panic! See How Kate Gosselin’s Son Aaden Helps Her Get Through a New Meltdown
BY BRIANNE TRACY
I saw the trailer. Another infamous crying like a baby, doesn't want to do it. Even told the guy that she wanted to determine the height of how high the parasail should go and she told him, EVEN if they say different. Talking about the kids.
Aaden rode with her and he reminded me SO MUCH of Jon because of his laid back attitude dealing with her. and she actually asked Aaden, Will you protect me? What in the world is wrong with her? Is she afraid that she has beat them and verbally abused them all these years and she is afraid that they are going to leave her as soon as they get old enough to?
I think she really is scared that is going to happen down the road.
It's not the kids fault, it is totally her own fault. She can only blame herself.
Why would you be cooking Christmas food and then run to the closet and start organizing your many mini sweeping pas, brushes and swiffer mops?
That is the last thing anyone normal would do.
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The tableau that Kate chose for Christmas day-that of a broom closet- is as weird as Kate.
Re-Collin. I think the public is very curious to know if Collin is OK, and whether or not he sees his mother and/or father, and siblings.
If Kate was able to report that she's such a wonderful mother that she sacrifices to see him and help in with his well being, she would have broadcast it writ large. The fact that Kate splashed Collin's news on the front of People magazine and has basically said nothing about him since does not bode well.
So yes, I think before anyone give Kate one more second of publicity, fame or money, she should be more transparent about what's happened to her child!
7 siblings remain estranged from their own brother, and Kate's acting like it's no biggie, "choosing happiness".
HUH??????
This is effed up!
I'm trying to imagine another child exploiting fame whore who would be able to foist this bullcrap on the public and be able to collect paychecks after.
Who?
Amy Roloff ever send a kid away who wasn't heard from for 6 months? Tori Spelling? Any "real" housewife?
IF Kate decided to stop the sh*t show and filming, I don't think it would be as germane. But, she's filming and putting out Twittersodes like all is well.
This is as much about Kate's gaslighting as anything else. But, this time, the matter isn't whether or not she's boning Purse Boy. This is about a 12-year old boy.
The question, "what's happened to Collin?", can not remain unanswered. Kate needs to do a little quid pro quo.
I'm a bit worked up over Collin because I'm getting more and more convinced that Kate has no designs on bringing him home so that she can continue filming the other kids as long and as much as she can.
Enough.
I am only speculating but I don't think C was "spanked" I think his abuse was a lot worse. If she willingly picked him up as a two year old by his hair and then spanked him I can only imagine what hell he has been through since then.
The People article on the parasailing episode was not written by her People bestie, Kate Coyner. Someone else.
Hmmm...
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Parasailing Panic! See How Kate Gosselin’s Son Aaden Helps Her Get Through a New Meltdown
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OMG sounds like a repeat of that tower jump. She cries that she doesn't want to do it. SO DON'T DO IT. So stupid
WTF with "People" magazine! TLC is awful.
I can never find the comments on People anymore. Did they disable them? Or just for Miss Ridiculous?
While being strapped in to the hooks of the parasail, the TLC star then bursts into tears and says, “I really don’t want to do this.”
“I’m just sitting on that boat sobbing because I so wanted to do it and I was so afraid,” Kate explains. “That was like true fear.”
With the help of some words of encouragement from her kids, and especially her son Aaden, 12, Kate faces her fears and decides she’ll join in on the parasailing fun.
As Kate and her two kids are lifted into the air, she starts panicking and crying again. Aaden can be heard next to her telling her to “relax.”
“I had to tell her ‘It’s okay’ and ‘We’re not going to die,’ ” Aaden says of having to help his mom calm down.
Aaden also tries to help Kate by pointing out the beautiful view that they could see from above.
“I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.”
She adds: “I’m pleasant, aren’t I?”
Luckily, Kate lands back safely on the boat with everything intact— except maybe her pride.
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She is certifiably nuts. Worse parent ever.
GollyGee,
I saw the clip. My thing is, she didn't HAVE to do it. So why did she? Aaden was sick of it lol.
-ajw
I just saw an ad for TLC New Year. It featured LPBW, Outdaughtered, The Little Couple, Sister Wives, Jazz, Big Fat Fabulous Life, Cake Boss, the new Tyler Perry show, 600-pound life, etc. Every TLC show I could think of except for K+8. The Little Couple has a contract dispute, and I haven't seen Jazz or BFFL or Cake Boss in a long time, but they were there. Not Kate. Isn't that interesting? Did they forget her (like they forget to run ads for her show), or is she out?
@TLC stinks Thats another thing to,can you image if Jon had these random over dramatic crying over things that he fears?Im sure the fans would call him a huge p***y for crying about it.But some how,Kate doing it is entertaining.
Okay, so this clinches it for me. She didn't have (all) the kids on Xmas Day, she just posted a little film of Mak with his presents, which she explained were opened Xmas Eve so the dogs would have something to play with? Like they don't already have scads of toys? Excuse me, bullshit.
kateplusmy8 We did dog presents on Christmas Eve so they'd have stuff to play with on Christmas😂! Mak stole the show..acting like he's been opening presents for years! Then, he played with all his toys happily! I could just eat him up! Such a cute guy! One of our favorite memories this year!!! On another note, Nanuq and Shoka don't get the present opening thing.. Despite a treat being hidden inside each one! #EachOneIsDifferent #LoveThemAll #HumanFurFeatherKids
"One of our favorite memories this year"? She's now categorizing and ranking the memories of the whole family? What a stupid thing to say. Speak for yourself, K8, your kids don't need you to tell them which are THEIR favorite memories. And OMG, the ridiculous hashtag usage again. Give it a rest, you phony.
While being strapped in to the hooks of the parasail, the TLC star then bursts into tears and says, “I really don’t want to do this.”
“I’m just sitting on that boat sobbing because I so wanted to do it and I was so afraid,” Kate explains. “That was like true fear.”
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Oh yeah... Sounds like "must see t.v." right there.
And she's positive, that she wants people to tune into that load of embarrassment?
Her young child sounds more rational than she is.
Yes, Aaden has more smarts in his little pinkie toe than she has in her entire, according to Milo, rocking body.
She looked so mentally, emotionally, stunted in the parasail epi.
Why didn't she just ride in the boat and let the kids enjoy it?
Her narc dose would of been missed.
She said that she couldn't swim. She had on a very nice life jacket.
What is her problem?
Admin (#79), TFW claimed that what happened with C brought them all closer together. But maybe she meant that in a creepy way -- he's gone, and now we're this newly configured group of K+7, and whoo boy, are we havin' a ball! Best birthday party ever! Funniest episode ever! Happiest Christmas ever!
Look how easily TFW dropkicked Jon's behind out of all of their lives without a second glance. We thought she wasn't capable of doing that with a child, but I think we were overestimating her mental illness. And no, I'm not being flip -- she is mentally ill. Make no mistake, she's done irreparable damage to those children's minds and hearts.
What is with that stupid "I could eat him up" comment. She used to say that about babies. Antiquated and weird at the same time.
The ongoing parentification of those children is sickening. Is A supposed to be acting as her husband in that parasail clip? Her father? Her
best friend? Why is someone with 41 years on the planet relying on emotional support from someone with only 12?
I can't imagine what happens when one of those kids has a problem or issue they'd like help with. Being bullied at school? Struggling with keeping
up with challenging work in class? Having a fight with a best friend? Interested in a boy or girl romantically and trying to navigate that world for the first time? Is TFW any kind of loving, supportive authority figure? Or does she just vacillate between dictator and helpless child?
I sent an email to TLC viewer relations complaining about them airing the show like Collin never existed. I told them they were disgusting keeping her on the air when the kids are in distress. It probably won't make a difference, but it made me feel better.
“I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.”
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It seems that in just about every episode she's bemoaning the fact that she can't really swim. LEARN THE F^CK TO SWIM THEN!
I just watched the dog video and it's got 11.5K views but only 15 comments. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. BTW, the video of my puppy opening presents was cuter because he actually "stole" them from under the tree and ran to his bed to open them. We didn't have to toss them to him like TFW does in her video.
“I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.”
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If Kate REALLY & TRULY feels that it could be unsafe, then why in the world is she allowing her 12 year olds do it?
Rainbirdie said... 107
“I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.”
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If Kate REALLY & TRULY feels that it could be unsafe, then why in the world is she allowing her 12 year olds do it?
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You expect someone that rarely makes any sense, to think
logically?
And Zorro finally makes an appearance.
http://instagram.com/zorrothebird
NJGal51 said... 105
“I did get a chance to look around but in my mind, my safety-self says, ‘Well you’re just suspended by a couple of clips and if you land in the water, you can’t swim really,’ ” Kate says. “I’m sure I could survive but whatever.”
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It seems that in just about every episode she's bemoaning the fact that she can't really swim. LEARN THE F^CK TO SWIM THEN!
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Hmmmm... I don't think so.
The instructor has to be o.k. with Kate spitefully telling him (or her) how to do their job.
since she keeps repeating that she can't swim, maybe she needs a solo raft trip across the Pacific to Hawaii……...
“I had to tell her ‘It’s okay’ and ‘We’re not going to die,’ ” Aaden says of having to help his mom calm down.
Aaden also tries to help Kate by pointing out the beautiful view that they could see from above.
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In case anyone is confused, Aaden is her 12 year old son, not her father. She is in her 40's.
And yes I agree with Flimsy, it's concerning when you wonder how children so parentified will look to her to be THEIR emotional support. To confide in and seek advice from about things like girlfriends and boyfriends, educational decisions, friendships, religion, life. SHE is supposed to emotionally support her children, not the other way around.
I haven't watched the clip from the new episode, but it's seems like it's just typical "Kate drama". Kate freaks out, and gets on the "please pity me", "I'm was so scared" bus.
She has more meltdowns than all of her kids combined. How she can expect anyone to relate to her is beyond me.
It's okay to have fears, but Kate uses it as her "schtick". She's not "facing her fears", she's using them to highlight herself, and making her children feel responsible for calming her down.
I'm sorry, but that's not how parenting works. It's the parent who is supposed to calm the child's fears--not vice versa.
But then again, Kate is more of a child than her own children.
And yes I agree with Flimsy, it's concerning when you wonder how children so parentified will look to her to be THEIR emotional support. To confide in and seek advice from about things like girlfriends and boyfriends, educational decisions, friendships, religion, life. SHE is supposed to emotionally support her children, not the other way around.
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I remember when they were on the battleship and she asked them if they were going to take care of her in her old age. Who says that to a young child?
I do think a big part of her thinks that just behaving normally on some kind of outing makes for boring tv. I think she really feels pressure to manufacture some kind of drama, and it seems the only thing she can think of to do is to act all freaked out, over and over. Boring.
I am only speculating but I don't think C was "spanked" I think his abuse was a lot worse. If she willingly picked him up as a two year old by his hair and then spanked him I can only imagine what hell he has been through since then.
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There are photos of her with the empty tube and that tabloid shot of her pulling up her daughter's dress to spank her (the whistle incident).
In addition to her yanking Collin around, I don't doubt that she has walloped those kids over the years.
Tomorrow,TLC is doing a Kate plus 8 marathon at noon.Most likely to try to get people to watch the new episode at 10.Not sure if that will help Kate.But thanks to Kate's PR person siobhan R for reminding us. Siobhan R
@SiobhanR111
#KatePlus8 marathon on Tuesday Dec 27 starting at noon on @TLC ahead of a brand new episode at 10pm! I'll be watching! @Kateplusmy8
Why is it that in most of the clips and stills, Kate continues to look like the Shrek donkey? I always giggle when I see pictures of her with that wide, toothy grin!
BTW, the last time Kate posted a picture of their "tradition" of going to church at Christmas was 5 years ago. Scroll down to the bottom of this link:
http://img.ly/images/Kateplusmy8?page=15
When you click on the picture, for some reason it doesn't show the picture or what Kate said in regards to it. Here is the full picture:
http://img.ly/images/2827636/full
For some perspective, these are the pictures she posted on twitter last year:
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/680071641100058624
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/680435451916890112
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/680442109489491968
And than last, but not least, a picture of their dinner:
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/680528140574310401
So is the "tradition" of going to church, something that occurs every 5 years?
KIAT (#120), excellent sleuthing as usual!
Thanks for confirming what many of us thought -- that just because TFW uses the word "tradition," doesn't mean it actually is one. Of course someone could argue, maybe she went to church all those other years, and didn't share that on Twitter. And to those people, I would say, I've got a fantastic bridge in Brooklyn that I'd like to sell you.
So Siobhan will be watching 13 hours of non-stop Kate? Kind of overkill, don't you think? Gladys and the mini-sheep would be delighted, but I'm not sure if other fans have the stomach for this.
I noticed that TLC is running banner ads across the bottom of the screen for K+8, even though there are no commercials for it (I was watching Extreme Couponing today). There is a marathon of the show tomorrow, and since it's a beach trip the men (and Milo) can tune in to see Kate in a bikini. It's the last episode that will air while people are on holiday break, and People is airing clips. If this episode doesn't do well, then the show is really done. There is promotion, and people can stay up to watch. Nothing stands in the way of it doing well, ratings-wise. This is when we get to see whether people are really just over K+8 and don't watch by choice, or if advertising and air time are the problem.
So is the "tradition" of going to church, something that occurs every 5 years?
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At least that's better than Brigadoon which appears every 100 years!
The marathon is actually only running from noon to six. Then it's LPBW (3 episodes), Outdaughtered (1 episode) and then the K+8 beach episode at its regular 10 PM time slot.
There is a marathon of the show tomorrow, and since it's a beach trip the men (and Milo) can tune in to see Kate in a bikini.
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I always thought that Milo is a man. Those gray 'slacks' with the knife crease were a dead giveaway.
I wonder if Stephanie had a good holiday. I had been planning on taking a fruitcake to her since she's only 2.8 miles from me, but I got so busy that I forgot. Admin, have you heard from her recently?
since she keeps repeating that she can't swim, maybe she needs a solo raft trip across the Pacific to Hawaii……...
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In shark-infested waters?
So is the general consensus here that if someone does something terribly wrong, such as publicly announce something potentially harmful to another such as blasting information of the utmost privacy to a gossip magazine, that opens the door for others to continue with that harmful degradation?
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Don't straw man. What was said, is that caring people wondering where Collin is, is natural and comes from a place of concern, not from a place of malice or trying to further the damage. That's all.
Don't straw man. What was said, is that caring people wondering where Collin is, is natural and comes from a place of concern, not from a place of malice or trying to further the damage. That's all.
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Don't whitewash. There is continual speculation as to where he is, if he's going home, when he's going home, will he film, won't he film, is he getting visitors from family. It's unnecessary and intrusive. What's wrong with expressing one's sadness at the situation and then leaving him in peace?
I haven't watched any of the shows and I don't look at her IG. Is Jamie still her bestie, and are Andrea and Deanna still around? I read some comments that Jamie was at her house making those famous cinnamon rolls, so it sounds like Kate hasn't yet kicked her to the curb. I wonder why Jamie has stuck by her side all of these years. Steve is an adult who is in it for the money, and who knows what else, but apparently she and Jamie are two peas in a pod.
Don't whitewash. There is continual speculation as to where he is, if he's going home, when he's going home, will he film, won't he film, is he getting visitors from family. It's unnecessary and intrusive. What's wrong with expressing one's sadness at the situation and then leaving him in peace?
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I fail to follow how it's "intrusive" for someone to simply wonder where a kid is. I don't get that. I find speculation about WHAT is wrong with him, if anything, far more inappropriate than simply wondering who he spent his holidays with.
And I never said it's okay to speculate about any of this. In fact, people probably shouldn't on the off chance it takes off and adds to the kid's burdens, and if you notice, I've tended to avoid those lines of conversations myself.
What I said was, the reason people want to know where he is is not because they care where he is or like to speculate, but because they want to know he's OKAY. People CARE about this boy. In fact, one of the only good things I can think of about this situation is I've seen many of the fans themselves put aside everything else and express a very deep and sincere level of caring for him. Even such that they'll forgo loyalty to Kate. They are, for the first time, changing the channel on her, actively, intentionally. It's amazing. I honestly never thought they would question her handling of this. So many of us agree he isn't being treated right in this situation, fans and "haters" alike, it's an important point, and it's more important than all the other ways we disagree when it comes to the Gosselins.
I don't care if you are in Nevada or New York or New Jersey, but if I know that you are only okay in New Jersey, then yes, I'm going to wonder if you are in NJ. It's not me caring two hoots WHERE you are, but rather, me caring.
That said, I'm not going to run this place like a stuffy school teacher drawing arbitrary lines in the sand about what is and isn't okay to discuss. The blog has its rules, people follow them, and they should be able to have free reign to take the discussion where it goes, within reason. If it gets out of line, that's for the mods to decide. As always, concerns about the blog should be emailed to me. It's not productive to scold people for their line of conversation, especially when you don't moderate this place and get to decide that. It is helpful, however, to give people the benefit of the doubt in terms of where the speculation is coming from. Why not ask them why they're wondering about this or that? You might learn something.
Andrea and Deanna still around? I read some comments that Jamie was at her house making those famous cinnamon rolls, so it sounds like Kate hasn't yet kicked her to the curb. I wonder why Jamie has stuck by her side all of these years
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I can't speak for Jamie, but I liked how she handled some of the situations on the RV trip, including calling it correctly when the kids were squabbling. Her kid was being picked on by the girls, point blank, and she was fair in arbitrating that when Kate never was.
Anyway, I do believe Jamie cares about the kids, and sometimes people stick around in bad situations just to kind of keep some oversight on it. I witnessed this with an unstable family member. Few people actually enjoy this person's company because they are so odd and difficult, but they do it because it's family and they want to be around the situation and know what is going on and be able to help at times, rather than remove themselves and not be able to help because they don't know what's happening.
Jamie also could be just another lackey, though, but I do think at least some of the people who stuck around Kate, stuck around because better to keep an eye on things than not.
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I'm not sure whether Milo is a man or not, but I know (s)he is not a mom. She shows such a lack of caring about the kids' well-being, I just can't see a mother acting that way.
Milo, whether a man or woman, has some out-of-control lustful feelings for Kate. From the body comments and the bikini comments, the time (s)he wanted to see Kate ride a tractor wearing Daisy Dukes...yikes!
Milo is a catfish. Period.
How did the parasailing work? My sister and niece went when niece was 13. She wasn't allowed to go up without an adult. So was Aaden the only one to go parasailing or did TLC pay the company to break all the rules? But Kate is not cute with the dramatics. There are millions of things to do for fun in this world. Pick something where you don't scream and cry. You're supposedly a producer. Of course Aaden is over it. She probably screams like that for a crumb on the floor.
Hahaha I hope this link works for everyone but if you go to the link,its a twitter post by TLC,wishing everyone a happy holidays from all the TLC families....EXCEPT for Kate and the kids.They aren't in it. https://twitter.com/TLC/status/813591195553320960
I wish I could see better, and I wish my computer worked better, and I wish someone paid me to do a comparison over time between the ratings of K+8 and 19 Kids/Counting On. Those two shows have dumped viewers and advertisers alike. There is no reason either should be on the air. 19 Kids/Counting On had viewers boycotting advertisers so TLC was down to only a couple of advertisers and the rest of the time they were advertising the rest of their shows to the extent that you though that another show had started, until suddenly the Duggars were back and you looked at the clock in confusion. The Duggars keep marrying off daughters and having grandkids which is something Kate can't do yet, and in fact, she is dumping kids. She does add dogs, however, so that's something. The Kate RV trip a few years ago was so obvious that TLC was done with her and they were showing her in all her glory. They let her do herself in. She was a long time returning. Poor Colin. I still feel so bad about him bringing his mom a present on a vacay in Mexico last year, I think, and she was so distainful of him and the present. My heart broke for the kid. I'm into numbers and I'd really love it if I had thought to do a ratings, advertiser comparison.
Sad but true said... 98
Okay, so this clinches it for me. She didn't have (all) the kids on Xmas Day, she just posted a little film of Mak with his presents, which she explained were opened Xmas Eve so the dogs would have something to play with? Like they don't already have scads of toys? Excuse me, bullshit.
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Our dogs get toys from time to time, but I've NEVER encourage them to unwrap a present. I come home with a bag and make a big fuss, then pull it out, and they are in heaven!
We are VERY lucky in that we've never had a dog disturb a Christmas tree or tear open wrapped presents.
I'll try to keep it that way, thank you!
Why didn't she just ride in the boat and let the kids enjoy it?
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I know I don't need to answer that here! Nah, Kate needs to be able to pat herself on the back and brag on her basement throne!
Meanwhile, Jon would be stoked, hooting and hollering doing something like that with his children!
Look how easily TFW dropkicked Jon's behind out of all of their lives without a second glance. We thought she wasn't capable of doing that with a child, but I think we were overestimating her mental illness. And no, I'm not being flip -- she is mentally ill. Make no mistake, she's done irreparable damage to those children's minds and hearts.
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This is exactly why I think the public has to make Kate be accountable to what happened to her child. With her mental illness, she's acting like this has been the best year of her life and her kids lives.
It's sick. Any normally developing child would be profoundly affected by the loss of a sibling. And that's EXACTLY what it is. Collin is gone. Not away for a week or even a month. 6 months, at least.
That is a devastating life event for anyone, let alone children. But, you know, puppies!! trips!!! puppies!!
I really hope at least the kids that see Jon can open up and grieve when they're with him, because Kate sure as hell won't allow it.
It seems that in just about every episode she's bemoaning the fact that she can't really swim. LEARN THE F^CK TO SWIM THEN!
December 26, 2016 at 1:49 PM
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The sad thing is that I think for Kate, it's a vanity thing. She loves prancing around and showing off her bod, but there's absolutely no fun in it.
Let alone the practical aspect of being able to save your children!
You know she's never done it all alone.
In addition to her yanking Collin around, I don't doubt that she has walloped those kids over the years.
December 26, 2016 at 4:29 PM
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This is the same woman who thought, "whoo hooooooo!", I've got back-up implements in my car with which to strike my children!!!"
Yay.
I wonder if Stephanie had a good holiday. I had been planning on taking a fruitcake to her since she's only 2.8 miles from me, but I got so busy that I forgot. Admin, have you heard from her recently?
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LOL!!
Good ole' Stephanie!
Don't straw man. What was said, is that caring people wondering where Collin is, is natural and comes from a place of concern, not from a place of malice or trying to further the damage. That's all.
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Kate needs to be held accountable, period. If she wants to peddle this crazy notion that their lives are the bestest ever, with puppies and birthdays and fun trips, she should stop the G-D gaslighting.
I have no reason to believe that what's happened to Collin isn't the same thing that Kate has done to countless other people in her life.
Kate Gosselin tosses people away like trash, and I think (now) that's what happened to Collin.
Get rid of the people who stand in your way, and keep the gravy train on the tracks.
Enough ignoring the elephant in the room. This is a 12-year old child.
I will NEVER stop demanding answers, not because I'm a nosy busy-body, pearl-clutching Gladys, but because of Kate's history of tossing people to the curb and marching on like they NEVER even existed.
What's wrong with expressing one's sadness at the situation and then leaving him in peace?
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Because that is EXACTLY the righteous indignation that Kate Gosselin uses to keep people in line, to shut them up so that she can continue selling her remaining children's lives.
It's that silence that's kept this woman's pursuit of fame on the backs of her children alive.
Kate Gosselin depends on our collective silence and SHAME in wanting to know where her 12-year old son is.
No me, hon. Not me.
I think Kate plus 8 has become unwatchable:
A bratty, 40+ Year old mother reacting like an 8 year old child, with her
bratty, unappreciative, entitled family getting EVERY wish granted....Taking up a lot of space in our planet, sucking up resources, and continuously serving no one but themselves.
How the HELL does that make for a "feel good" program?
It used to have a train wreck or car wreck effect, where you had to watch to see how such a big family manages day to day. Now, it's at the stage where you have to turn away. It has become a cautionary tale- what happens to a beautiful family when you value money & fame over family, and friends.
I've put my foot down long ago, and stopped watching TLC. I will not support Kate's foolish folly, and the tv channel that has been taking advantage of those 8 precious lives.
Because that is EXACTLY the righteous indignation that Kate Gosselin uses to keep people in line, to shut them up so that she can continue selling her remaining children's lives.
It's that silence that's kept this woman's pursuit of fame on the backs of her children alive.
Kate Gosselin depends on our collective silence and SHAME in wanting to know where her 12-year old son is.
No me, hon. Not me.
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It's KATE who wants to whitewash this. Wants to throw out some standard spin about how the family y is closer than ever and is choosing happiness, and expects the public to just move on.
They're not, and it's a good thing. By asking questions and refusing to tune into the show, they are sending a very strong message that no, the public does not accept a mother discarding her child. No, the public does not accept a mother profiting off of discarding her child. And no, the public does not accept a mother moving on with filming without said child. No means no, and it's exactly because some of the public WON'T accept her whitewashing that this show is tanking. Bravo.
Asking questions, taking a stand and demanding answers should be encouraged, not scolded. Without it, this show would be getting a lot better ratings than it actually is, so thank God some people were willing to take that stand instead of just saying to themselves, well, no, I don't want to be a busybody.
Asking questions, taking a stand and demanding answers should be encouraged, not scolded. Without it, this show would be getting a lot better ratings than it actually is, so thank God some people were willing to take that stand instead of just saying to themselves, well, no, I don't want to be a busybody.
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Evil is allowed to exist when good people stand by and do nothing, or something like that!
I won't be shamed into silence.
What I know as sure as I'm sitting here, is that Kate Gosselin would use her sacrificing for Collin, taking time to see him and doing the necessary things to help him, to her advantage.
I truly, truly believe that Collin is just like Kate's parents, her siblings, Beth, Jon and ALL the other people who don't know how to help her: disappeared.
Tucker's Mom (#143), TFW seems to think as long as she keeps paying lip service to how much she cares about her kids, we won't notice what's actually going on in her house. Saying, "I BREATHE for my kids" or "I'm nothing without my kids" means jack snot if you toss a child away, and act as if he never existed, and have more fun than ever in his absence.
I'm still not sure how our genuine concern for C is somehow as bad as his own mother financially profiting for exposing his problems to the world. I've done nothing to press TFW for answers, nor tried to find C's facility online, nor hounded the press to get to the bottom of things. I'm just sincerely heartbroken at what has happened to this sweet boy, who showed such a loving, caring and sweet personality in the 10 years he appeared on TLC.
The name of the parasailing boat was, Chute Yeah.
Kate gonna beef and whine on the boat and force her parentification on the kids.
CHUTE YEAH!
Aaden was so precious calming her down. He was so laid back that he reminded me so much of Jon!
CHUTE YEAH! Jon would have LOVED being the parent on that boat.
When TFW went up in the air, Aaden and a tup girl were with her. What is the episode about next week? Her screeching in town at a local business or out of state?
What I know as sure as I'm sitting here, is that Kate Gosselin would use her sacrificing for Collin, taking time to see him and doing the necessary things to help him, to her advantage.
I truly, truly believe that Collin is just like Kate's parents, her siblings, Beth, Jon and ALL the other people who don't know how to help her: disappeared.
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And you know what, asking the question itself is really more important than actually getting an answer.
Kate (and TLC) is being sent a strong message, all over Twitter and social media, and not the half of which his actually from US, that fans and haters alike won't accept her whitewashing.
Continuing to ask, where is he, is he okay, when will he be back, did you visit him over the holidays, is he seeing Jon, is he seeing his siblings, why did you send him away, is he getting proper treatment, are you participating in the treatment, why are you filming without him.......regardless what her answer is, lets her know she is not going to get away with this. Following up these questions with a switch of the channel on the remote is a further demonstration that she's not going to get away with this. Because folks, she is COUNTING on people not asking questions, accepting her whitewashing, and moving on like she's moved on. She's counting on it. Every time someone on social media asks a question, they won't let her do that, and it's driving her bonkers.
In many ways, the reason Jon is where he is is because way too many people accepted her spin about him and moved on with her. This time, it's a fool me twice situation. This time, fans aren't going to be taken for a ride. Amazing to watch.
And you know what, asking the question itself is really more important than actually getting an answer.
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It is! Enough is enough.
Enough acting like you 12-year old boy being cast out of his home and family for 6 months isn't a very, very big deal.
Even if this is for his own good, it is about as traumatic as life experiences get.
Jeez, even think about his brothers and sisters and how devastating this would be, or at least, should be.
Can anyone here imagine a sibling being sent away and not knowing where he is?
And I do believe Kate is not telling Collin's brothers and sisters where he is. I do believe Collin has not been home, nor been visited by them.
Tucker's Mom
I couldn't agree with you more.
Kate screwed up going public with Collin's situation. It backfired on her big time. Now she's trying to act like it's not an issue, hoping her viewers forget and move on, allowing her to continue the exploitation of the rest of her children.
Personally, I think we are doing Collin a disservice letting her get away with it. He knows the truth.
I think allowing Kate to write him out of her "storyline" is unforgivable. She also shouldn't be allowed to use his issues as a storyline. We need to give her the only option... not having a storyline at all. She needs to stop exploiting her children period.
Because folks, she is COUNTING on people not asking questions, accepting her whitewashing, and moving on like she's moved on. She's counting on it.
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You betcha. That's how Kate is getting away with her typical non sequiturs and fuzzy logic.
No one has the cajones to say, "that make zero sense, can you actually answer the question?", and don't forget, "Holy shit! You won't tell the father of your son where he is? WTF, lady!"
People are upset that she decided to film the birthday party, the beach, Space Camp, the insect museum and whatever is going to be on tonight.
Everything is hitting her all at once.
The backlash of the People cover.
The broadcasting (opening her mouth) about Collin's private medical crisis.
Twitter fans leaving in droves that you would of never thought that they would never leave her side.
The large outpouring of negative comments on TLC's Kate Plus 8 Facebook page.
TLC barely showing any ad support for the show.
Did not include Kate Plus 8 in the Merry Christmas video from TLC.
The backlash of her pictures deflecting about the kids, pretending that they are ALL in a room, far away, keeping busy. Does ALL include COLLIN?
Next should be, no more filming.
What is so sickening is, TLC has plenty of money. WHY didn't they just buy her contract out when they found out about Collin? That would of been a bargain for them because I hope when Collin turns 18, I hope he sues TLC/Discovery, his mother, Steve Neild, Figure 8, for filming him and basically destroying his childhood.
His mother, Steve Neild, Circle 8 and TLC/Discovery are all complacent, IMO, of continuing to film while she abused and verbally him (them) and forced him (them) to film and deprive him (them) of after-school activities.
I am so proud of Collin for having the courage to tell the people who are taking care of him what his mother and Steve, yes, Steve, what they did to him.
He did not stop her or report her. The money was too good to give up.
You can try what I did. Go to
https://corporate.discovery.com/contact/viewer-relations/
I know the chances are slim, but it's worthwhile for them to receive a few emails. Plus I hope TLC is monitoring their Kate Plus 8 Facebook page.
I suspect the marathon is nothing more than filling air time during the post Xmas holidays than a grab for ratings tonight. I have railed against her for years, but this Collin situation is overstepping decency. And I agree, people need to ask questions and express their disgust. She needs to go! We cannot let Collin just disappear like all the others.
The marathon could hurt more than it helps. Now that so many people have their eyes opened, if they watch, they're going to see all these episodes in a whole different way. Bad behavior from Kate they previously overlooked they may no longer give her a pass on. I predict a lot of disgust on social media as the day goes on today.
The marathon is dumb because you can watch full episodes on the TLC site anyway, so why bother? The reruns worth watching are ones when the kids were little and Jon was in the picture, LOL, and TLC can't show those because of Jon so they are stuck with Kate screeching and doing couch interviews which are painful.
US Weekly posted a new preview clip of tonight's episode
"Kate Gosselin Snaps at Daughter Cara in 'Kate Plus 8' Sneak Peek: 'I'm So Tired of Getting Picked On'"
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-gosselin-snaps-at-daughter-cara-on-kate-plus-8-w457668
-ajw
And I agree, people need to ask questions and express their disgust.
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I find Kate's actions and answers when it comes to Collin to be specious, at best.
It's actually offensive and indecent.
Golly- the People cover should have been cause for rebuke in and of itself, but unfortunately, it didn't.
Look at the kids in their lily-white outfits! Look at the smiles!
Their brother had just been sent away!
This is NOT normal!
We cannot let Collin just disappear like all the others.
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TLC Stinks- It is exactly because we have seen Kate throw people away like trash, that we should be asking "where's Collin?"
She has the capacity to, and will, go on like he never existed. Kate has done this over and over and over again.
That woman tears clothes.
I don't ask that Kate don black and expect her children to live in mourning. But they are all seen to act like Collin isn't suffering, which is highly dysfunctional.
They all appear to have no conscience.
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-gosselin-snaps-at-daughter-cara-on-kate-plus-8-w457668
Thanks for the link.
More ingrate behavior. More girls being nasty to boys. More Cara being prickly with Kate, then picking lint off her clothes.
That Aaden is such a nice kid. He gets shoved out of the way and just keeps on smiling.
OMG, the couch interview with the three girls! The middle one is talking. The one to her right is sticking her tongue out and the other one to her left if grimacing with pure disgust.
Lovely.
When I was 12, my 18-year-old brother drove cross country with some friends for a 3-week summer trip. We weren't particularly close (although we are now) -- he was a cool teenager and I was the dorky little sister he often picked on. But I can remember how very much I missed my big brother, and how exciting it was when he finally came home.
The G kids have been short one sibling for about 6 months. For 5 of them, it's a same-age sibling. And for 2 of that 5, it's a fellow resident of their man cave, and part of an oppressed minority in that household.
The G kids have traveled in a pack for most of their lives. I would even describe the group as "clannish." So I can't possibly imagine that C's absence is anything less than traumatic to many of those children. Is their mother a soft place to land with those feelings? I suspect not, when she's crowing about the superfun times they're all having without him. She is a horrible mother.
Did not include Kate Plus 8 in the Merry Christmas video from TLC.
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TLC couldn't include the Gosselins in the Christmas montage because Collin wasn't there so they couldn't get the holiday picture in front of the tree. I'm sure TFW's head is exploding because they weren't included because they have PUPPIES and 2 puppies = 1 Collin.
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-gosselin-snaps-at-daughter-cara-on-kate-plus-8-w457668
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Please, we took a segway tour in OBX a few years ago. It was really fun! And they give you a mini course on Segway operation so she is full of it. In fact you HAVE to do it unless you have their certificate dated within the last year saying you took it.
The left and right is more confusing than starting and stopping because it's sort of backwards. She is ridiculous.
The ad for TLC New Year also did not include Kate and the kids. That one is a preview for upcoming 2017 shows. Everyone was there but the Gosselins.
Layla (#167), whoa, that is pretty significant. Everyone included for Christmas and New Year's but Schmoopy? But...but...but...she's America's Favorite Mom! She is known and loved throughout the world! She made TLC what they are today!
Only a few more hours until the new bestest, funnest, hilariousest, familyest adventure ever on K+8! Now with only 7 kids, so there's more air time for Mommy!
and 2 puppies = 1 Collin.
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There's Kate's fuzzy logic for you!
She is ridiculous.
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The only danger on the Segways was Kate.
Cara is just so over it all.
Layla said... 167
The ad for TLC New Year also did not include Kate and the kids. That one is a preview for upcoming 2017 shows. Everyone was there but the Gosselins.
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Thank you, Santa!
It might explain why Kate et. al. look pained in their basement throne interviews.
Especially Kate.
The producer needed to happy Kate up because she couldn't possibly be more monotonous and expressionless.
Yada yada. Pay me. Bye.
But...but...but...she's America's Favorite Mom!
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She's Mrs. Brady, dontcha know?
Thank you for the reminder that there are Segway tours in the OBX! We'll definitely put that on our agenda in May!
I love how at the end one of the kids says "let's get these (fake boulders) for our back yard" and she says "yes we'll just have them delivered honey" as if that is the most RIDICULOUS thing in the world. Which it would be if you forget the crooked houses, the deck, the toy cars, the motorcycles, the solar panels, and on and on that were magically delivered. That's what these kids expect.
Oh and M was bitching about just wanting to turn back during the tour. SHeesh
localyocul said... 166
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-gosselin-snaps-at-daughter-cara-on-kate-plus-8-w457668
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Please, we took a segway tour in OBX a few years ago. It was really fun! And they give you a mini course on Segway operation so she is full of it. In fact you HAVE to do it unless you have their certificate dated within the last year saying you took it.
The left and right is more confusing than starting and stopping because it's sort of backwards. She is ridiculous.
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Kate is her own prisoner.
She's so wrapped up in her fears, etc... that she is holding her children hostage. They are going to really blossom when they leave that nest.
There are pharmaceuticals out there that can help Kate live a happier life- just saying... No shame in getting little bit of help the way.
http://people.com/tv/kate-gosselin-parasailing-kate-plus-8-exclusive/
Kate is truly phobic and really shouldn't attempt things like parasailing. It's awful enough that she has a full-blown panic attack, but in front of the kids is ridiculous to put them through.
Not to mention she ruined Aaden and Cara's turn.
If I saw someone hyperventilating, I would NOT strap them in in the first place.
I think in the back of Kate's head she knows that her meltdowns get ratings. I mean, look, it's the damn trailer every time.
@NjGal51 Now that you said that,that could be a clue that Collin wasn't home with Kate for Christmas.UNLESS this is proof that TLC is done with her.I can't see why TLC wouldn't include Kate.
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Golly- the People cover should have been cause for rebuke in and of itself, but unfortunately, it didn't.
Look at the kids in their lily-white outfits! Look at the smiles!
Their brother had just been sent away!
This is NOT normal!
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It's not normal. If and when those kids start to reflect on their lives, it's going to hit them how crappy a situation it was.
The G kids have been taught since they were little to stop, drop, and smile when ordered to.
I remember a while back (when John was still in the picture), they all went on vacation to one of the Carolinas. They rented a house,
body painted with pudding, John threw water balloon at Kate, celebrated July 4th etc...
Anyway, they were posing for a family shot, and of course the kids were cranky. One in particular was crying, and when I guess the photo was about to be snapped, she immediately flashed a wide smile.
MID CRY! I've never seen anyone ever do that.
Oh and M was bitching about just wanting to turn back during the tour. SHeesh
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I noticed one of the tup girls constantly looks at the camera, and I wonder if she's gotten self conscious, being on tv and realizing everything she does will be seen by all of her classmates.
Love how Cara is still picking lint.
Way to go, girl!
RIP Carrie Fisher. I didn't think she'd make it after cardiac arrest...
She's so wrapped up in her fears, etc... that she is holding her children hostage. They are going to really blossom when they leave that nest.
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I just cringed when Kate berated her daughter for slowing down in front of her. It's like driving. You keep enough space and pay attention so you don't rear-end someone.
She's the problem, but the poor kid gets castigated.
Kate's Fetid Soul (#178), those children are like trained seals. Circus monkeys. A dog and pony show. Except if they were real animals, there would be stricter rules in their contracts about their care and safety on the production set, and some regulation would have shut this whole thing down by now.
In the TLC Christmas clip, none of them include whole families. It could have included just a few of the Gs, but there was no sign of them.
In the clip where Cara calls Kate out for blaming her slowness on the kids, Cara is absolutely correct. There was nobody darting in front of Kate. Kate just automatically blames everything she does on the fact that she has 8 kids, and the kids are probably sick of being blamed for everything. Kate was slow, she should own it. It's mind-boggling to think that her go-to response to any question is, "I have so many kids".
Carrie Fisher has died. RIP, Princess Leia.
LOL, I swear after watching the people clip the logo said 'Hate + 8'
Lololololol
and the kids are probably sick of being blamed for everything.
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OMG, I can't even imagine. Everything she has is because of those kids, but she bitches about having them all the damn time.
'I'm dong it all alone".
"I'm outnumbered"
"It's not fair"
and my favorite...
"Everyone leaves but I can't"
Turn out the lights said... 185
LOL, I swear after watching the people clip the logo said 'Hate + 8'
Lololololol
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I know! LOL!
You can't tell me no one noticed that. I think they did and thought, "well, if the shoe fits..."
I just looked at the Segway clip. If you watch the shot of them all coming toward the camera, single file, there is not one smile on a face. Not one. And K8 complaining about being worried a kid may stop suddenly? WTF? They were all well separated, not going fast, one can only surmise she complains for the sake of complaining or because she thinks it makes for good TV. Hey K8! It doesn't, nor do the clearly unhappy faces on all of your kids. Even the few comments on the K8 FB page are negative today.
"Chaotic" K8's life might be, but it has become supremely difficult to find the "fun" anywhere in this show. Throw in the towel, babe, you're definitely done.
I feel sad for Collin. I think if he was home for Christmas, Kate would be exploiting the hell out of it because she's got to know it makes her look bad if he's not or there's no mention of him. She'll do anything for a buck...sell a story to People and discuss Collin's issues, etc. Surely there are even sycophants out there who wonder about Collin and disagree with Kate filming with no care in the world about how it effects her son. I hope we know the true that about this evil woman one day. She should have at least taken the kids to see Collin for Christmas if he couldn't come home. Maybe because the facility wouldn't allow filming, this deterred her! I think if he was home or she went to see him, she'd exploit it to the hilt
Tucker's Mom (#186), when she said "everyone leaves but I can't," we found out there was a more to it. She can't leave, but she can send your butt away at any time, for as long as she needs to, and everything will go one without you as if you were never there, and there will still be as much chaotic fun as ever, if not more. It's still startling to me how I underestimated her evil streak.
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I just looked at the Segway clip. If you watch the shot of them all coming toward the camera, single file, there is not one smile on a face. Not one.
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I did notice that. Same for Space Camp. These are not happy kids. I'm guessing the stress of everything is getting to them.
Divorce.
Post-divorce acrimony. As ugly as it gets.
Kids getting kicked out of school.
Dad is sued by Mom.
Constant filming of their lives and having to happy up and never mention Collin.
Tabloid after tabloid.
Their pain splashed across magazine covers and their own mother cashing in on it.
The stress has to be overwhelming and Kate is NOT helping matters on many levels.
They were all well separated, not going fast, one can only surmise she complains for the sake of complaining or because she thinks it makes for good TV. Hey K8! It doesn't, nor do the clearly unhappy faces on all of your kids. Even the few comments on the K8 FB page are negative today.
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Kate is one of those people who don't like to be miserable alone. She will crap all over everyone's fun until they are as unhappy as her. If she's not having a good time, ain't nobody having a good time.
These recent episodes are making the general tone of that dysfunctional home very evident.
It's still startling to me how I underestimated her evil streak.
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Me, too! The vibe I'm getting is not good. Some here thought she'd toss her kids aside like she did Jon and countless other friends and family, but I didn't believe it.
Now, I do.
WTH with not having your son home for Christmas? I think he's not allowed home, but am not sure exactly why.
Wild horses couldn't keep my from seeing my son on Christmas.
When I saw one of the tup girls call Aaden "shorty" and yank him out of the way, I saw Jon's parenting right there.
Jon has always taught the boys to never touch a girl. Never. Aaden and Joel are very kind boys and I can see Jon and his fathering in them.
Tucker's Mom (#192), and conversely, if TFW is having a good time, then screw you. If Mommy wants to go deep sea fishing, don't think your projectile vomiting is going to stop her. And she'll happily plan another trip to do it, knowing full well you got miserably sick the fist time. Because she's in charge, and that's never gonna change.
I wish the kids would be filmed sometime telling Kate, "I'm so sick of being picked on by YOU". Because she's always criticizing one or another of them. Or better yet, "I'm so sick of being responsible for supporting you. I've been working to pay your bills since I was a baby".
Kate is so ridiculous saying that Christmas is her one day per year when the kids are busy and she can do housework. The twins are 16. The younger kids are almost 13. They are not small children who need their mother to entertain them. They'd probably rather she left them alone. What is Kate going to do when they are adults? That's just 2 years away for the twins, and 5 years for the younger ones. What will be her excuse for not working a regular job? She can't make claims about child care expenses when they are grown. Whom will she blame for her own character defects? How can she claim to be exhausted all the time when there's nobody to take care of? How can she complain about having to cook so many pounds of bacon every morning when she's the only one there to be fed? And what excuse will she come up with for having to get up at 5:30am? She can't admit to sleeping in.
Perhaps she'll adopt 5 more dogs. Then she'll have 8, her favorite number. And she can blame them for everything.
Kate is so ridiculous saying that Christmas is her one day per year when the kids are busy and she can do housework. The twins are 16. The younger kids are almost 13. They are not small children who need their mother to entertain them
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How great would it be if the kids actually could be sent off to visit with family? Stay with the grandparents for a weekend?
Oh, wait...that's filming time.
How can she complain about having to cook so many pounds of bacon every morning when she's the only one there to be fed?
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I think Kate will be berating the kids to come and stay with her. I see much guilt tripping in the kids' futures.
More ingrate behavior. More girls being nasty to boys. More Cara being prickly with Kate, then picking lint off her clothes.
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I hope Santa put a link roller in her stocking. It might be very helpful for her to have.
What is the episode about next week? Her screeching in town at a local business or out of state?
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There's another episode? Geez. I thought this was the last one.
On the Kate plus 8 FB page, TLC posted to links to the parasailing clip and the segway clip. This one comment about the parasailing basically says it all:
"Kate you are a disgrace in front of your children. After all the expensive excursions TLC has paid for where you have had the opportunity to face YOUR over-dramatic fears (bungee jumping for eg.,) you still act like a childish moron in front of your children. I feel so sorry for your kids. You say to the camera that you want to teach your kids to be intrepid by showing them how YOU are facing your fears. However, you are doing it only for yourself to a) make the episode more dramatic and b)to take advantage of an opportunity that you are too cheap to pay for yourself. Your kids are sick of your whining, bawling and screeching. You have enough money to sit comfortably for the rest of your life. Get this idiot off TV. NOW."
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