Poconos here we come! There's plenty of competition, chaos and family fun when Kate and the kids take on archery tag, tubing and new puppies! 60 Min. | PG
I don't think that it's the tabloid stories that are affecting her health, I think it's the plummeting ratings. That and the fact that she can run but she can't hide from the upcoming court dates. Karma, it seems, may be a bigger bitch than TFW herself.
And if it isn't easy being on TV, TFW, why don't you get off of it?
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Oh, but then she couldn't pose on that pedestal she's put herself on and dab at her tears complaining about enduring the persecution... all for the kids.
My respect for Dr. Oz is at the same level as for Dr. Phil, it doesn't exist. I can't stand either of them. I hope TFW screws up big time with the interview and does or says something to cause the judge to weigh in really heavily against her. Just when I think my opinion of her can't possibly go any lower, she does something like this. SMH
What manager or PR person would thing Kate doing a victim tour would play well? ____
My gut says it's only Kate and Steve at this point. Maybe they bring in some outside advice from time to time, but she's made such a mess of this new PR offensive that I think if someone else were in charge, they'd have forced her to STOP already. Dr. Oz might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back. She is getting zero sympathy from the public anymore, the very small portion that even continues to be aware of her. And she's really going out on a limb doing this so close to the custody hearing. Not smart.
I hope Jon is aware of the kids having to work on their Saturdays doing couch interviews. I am assuming she hasn't been so stupid as to cut into his visitation time with this nonsense (at least not since he filed for custody), but he and his attorneys need to know what these kids are obligated to do in order to support Mommy in the manner she's become accustomed to.
So now they're not only working, they've got the added stress of having to perform up to Mommy's expectations on what is supposed to be a rest day for them. She's out of her mind.
****** You know darn well that those kids better march down to that basement set or else.
Just want to repeat my post #136 for those who believe that Kate made a special trip to NYC just to film Dr. Oz.
Kate did the Dr. Oz interview the same day that she did the others for Extra, Access Hollywood, GMA and Nightline(which was an extension of her GMA interview). She's wearing the same clothes as she wore for the Extra interview. She probably changed her outfit for the other interviews.
Also, her hairdresser posted a picture on IG showing her on the Dr. Oz set, the same day as when the Extra interview was taped, Nov. 18.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BM9LSh5lVhJ/
Dr. Oz's show and GMA are both taped at ABC studios in NY. So she did all her "set the record straight" interviews the same day on November 18.
How sad that these children not only have to work to earn their keep (and her's) and, the boys who have to get up at 5:00 am in order to do their homework before going to school all day, have to work Saturdays in order to do their couch interviews.
I hope the Judge gets copies of the 'shows' in order to get a complete picture of what their lives entail.
For the New Orleans trip, I saw one couch interview where boy tups held a clapboard dated Saturday, 9/17 and then the girl tups did a couch interview holding a clapboard date Sunday, 9/18.
So they use up the whole weekend doing the couch interviews. Maybe they do the boys one day and the girls the other day. When do Mady, Cara and Kate do theirs? Friday night?
My respect for Dr. Oz is at the same level as for Dr. Phil, it doesn't exist. I can't stand either of them. ****** Same here, although I bet Dr. Phil wouldn't touch her with a 10-foot pole. When he and Kate were on The View at the same time, he didn't want to engage her AT ALL. I think Dr. Phil's involvement with j+K, to "save the brand", doesn't exactly align with Dr. Phil's brand.
Sad but true said... 154 She's not doing herself any favors with these interviews, because no one can reconcile what they see on their TVs when her show is on with how she's trying to come across with Dr. Oz. And rightfully so. She's a FRAUD, and she's scammed too many for too long. ALL of the comments on the US Weekly article are negative.
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Sad but true said... 154 She's not doing herself any favors with these interviews, because no one can reconcile what they see on their TVs when her show is on with how she's trying to come across with Dr. Oz. And rightfully so. She's a FRAUD, and she's scammed too many for too long. ALL of the comments on the US Weekly article are negative.
Great point! The old Kate isn't even recognizable in the new one anymore!
And she's really going out on a limb doing this so close to the custody hearing. Not smart. ***** How sure are we that there is indeed a custody hearing close in the offing, and an open child abuse investigation? If either one or both are true, she's nutso for not keeping her pie hole shut right now.
Kate is a twit said... 6 Just want to repeat my post #136 for those who believe that Kate made a special trip to NYC just to film Dr. Oz.
Kate did the Dr. Oz interview the same day that she did the others for Extra, Access Hollywood, GMA and Nightline(which was an extension of her GMA interview). She's wearing the same clothes as she wore for the Extra interview. She probably changed her outfit for the other interviews. ***** Thank your for clarifying. I thought perhaps Kate got panicky and started drunk dialing all of her NYC peeps to hook her up with anyone willing to sit her ass on their couch. I'm predicting another tearfest, just like Dr. Drew. She likes to cry it up for men.
I don't follow this mess as closely as some, but since all the interviews were done on 11/18, is this BEFORE Jon filed for custody? If so she's probably needing those dog wipes for herself!
She's so stupid; she's on record saying all this stuff. It would be awesome if her copyrighted journal and the kid's TLC work schedule was admitted and discussed in court. What work permits. LOL
It's karma that an icky boy brought down the house of Kate.
If I've been reading the posts correctly, there was an emergency hearing before Thanksgiving in which Jon was granted visitation with at least some of the kids on Thanksgiving as well as psychological evaluations ordered for all family members and a gag order for Jon & Kate was put in place. Right?
I believe that she either did not inform TLC of the latest court hearing or downplayed it and 'forgot' to mention the gag order to TLC. She then went on her latest media tour with apparently very little help from TLC. She probably has a bit of an "out" re: the gag order if the appearances were filmed before it went into effect/she had the actual order in hand. If she was smart, she would have asked Dr. Oz's producers not to air the segment tomorrow because I doubt the judge will take kindly to this latest interview. And if Jon's lawyers call any of the producers of the shows from her latest media tour to testify, tomorrow may very well be her latest appearance on non-TLC shows. She's not worth the trouble as she brings nothing new or interesting to the table, wants to cry and dab her eyes, and is still hung up on the divorce.
Wasn't there a big outcry several years ago when one of the Kardashian famewhores appeared on the Today Show on the anniversary of 9-11? and said or did something that was very disrespectful? Various news sources reported the Today Show lost a lot of viewers that day due to people turning the channel. Wonder if anyone has ever complied the number of viewers lost when Kate appears on various non-TLC shows.
The good thing about Kate's continued determination to film her show and appear on non-TLC shows is that there will be plenty of documentation for the upcoming custody hearing, for future mental health professionals to study, and for the kids to use when the sue to obtain their earnings, damages, etc.
Thanks for clarifying. I wonder what took them so long to air this. I guess having too many interviews of her all saying the same thing on the same day might look a little too much like what it is: Bullshit.
Turn out the lights said... 13 I don't follow this mess as closely as some, but since all the interviews were done on 11/18, is this BEFORE Jon filed for custody? ____
It is nearly two months AFTER he filed for custody, if People can be believed on a factual matter.
Sad but true said... 17 Turn out the lights said... 13 I don't follow this mess as closely as some, but since all the interviews were done on 11/18, is this BEFORE Jon filed for custody? ____
It is nearly two months AFTER he filed for custody, if People can be believed on a factual matter.
http://people.com/celebrity/jon-gosselin-sues-kate-for-primary-custody/ ***************************** If true, she is burnt toast. But the mental illness is fascinating to see progress in HD. . . although my heart aches for the kids who deal with it everyday.
Regarding the gag order--Kate, herself, first mentioned it during her appearance on GMA(taped Nov. 18) when she was asked about Jon saying that he didn't know where Collin was.
She said that she was "in accordance with court orders to not speak about the care and custody of their children in detail."
Jon's attorney gave a statement on Nov.21, the day the interviews aired and confirmed the court order.
"In a statement to Us Weekly, Jon’s lawyer confirmed the court order and then briefly elaborated on the situation.
"Jon is bound by the court order. Needless to say, certain comments and statements that are being made are very upsetting to Jon, but given his obligation to the court order, there is not much he can do right now,” his lawyer Kristen Doleva-Lecher told Us, adding that Jon, 39, is also "very upset by certain statements made to the press" and that he feels "the whole story is not being told."
If she was under court order when she gave those interviews, why did she talk about the care and custody of her children? Just because she didn't go into detail doesn't mean that she wasn't in violation of that order.
Re the gag order, after Kate did GMA on 11/21, Jon's lawyer made some comments and mentioned it (etonline has this story, dtd 11/21). Since GMA was aired on a Monday before her "premiere" on 11/22, it stands to reason the gag order has to have been in place before Kate went all over the talk shows running her mouth (which looks to have been Friday of the previous week).
The Celeb Dirty Laundry article calls Kate a former reality tv star, and that she is doing whatever it takes to land a reality tv show. Do they know something we don't know? It also quotes "insiders" as saying she'll never go back to nursing. Hmmm...
That People article is an old article from 2010. It references Kate being on DWTS. There were rumors then that Jon was going to sue Kate for custody due to her being away so much during her stint on the show. In that article there's a link to a related article about Kate's response to Jon. Again it mentions DWTS and lists Kate's age as 35.
"Get a sneak peek of this week’s issue – Justin Bieber’s world, Jennifer Hudson’s new body, and Maksim Chmerkovskiy and Erin Andrews’s relationship – which is on newsstands Friday".
Maks and Erin were dancing partners the same season that Kate appeared.
Both articles were dated 9/23/16, but they actually talk about something that happened in April 2010.
I don't know why they dated those articles with a more current date. Hmm, maybe because People is a tabloid magazine looking to get hits?
BTW, the current custody case was reported by InTouch on Nov. 30, 2016.
Panic attacks? Please! Like those fake histrionics she does on her show? Are those supposed to be "evidence" that she has panic attacks? Anxiety is a real disorder I just don't believe she has it.
You bet, so cry me a river, Kate. She's trying to garner sympathy and play the victim, while Collin is God knows where (could be great, could be awful, no one knows) and his OWN FATHER is kept in the dark.
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She MIGHT have come off the hero if she stopped filming and instead use this time to do a media tour promoting and supporting parents of kids with special needs. She MIGHT of come off the hero if she put him first and agreed to stop filming. Then, when he comes home, film a special. She would have had to be patient and wait this out longer, but it would have paid off.
Her stubbornness has done her in. She wanted to film come hell or high water, refusing to think big picture how this could hurt her more long term by pushing her luck. The public reacted stronger than they ever have. And you can't say the public is over multiples or other oddities, because the public happily watches Outdaughtered and Little People. It's HER they hate.
Can someone post a link to the celeb dirty laundry article? I know google is my friend but I'm on an iPhone right now so it's hard on the small screen. Thanks.
If she really is having "panic attacks" that must be really frightening for the kids to witness. It's probably more along the lines of (grape induced) screaming tirades against Jon and anyone else she feels has wronged her.
Were the gag orders and custody issue addressed together? If they weren't , it sounds like Kate did these interviews on 11/18 and Jon filed custody papers afterwards??
Kate is on record in print and film bad mouthing Jon. This is going to be interesting.
Kate is a twit said... 160 From the Page Six article:
“I mess up, yet it’s out of love for my kids that I say, whooo, I messed up. I need to get better at that,” Gosselin confesses to Dr. Oz. “I mean, my life is my kids and there just wouldn’t be Kate Gosselin if it wasn’t for my kids. Everything I do for them. I mean, being on TV is not easy. Having tabloids written about you constantly is not easy.” *********************** Tabloids write about her constantly??!! Someone has a distorted view of herself.
I just read the page 6 interview. I swear she just babbles such nonsense. Most of the sentences make no sense. TFW said, “I could live my whole life without them,” the 41-year-old mom shares on Thursday’s episode of “The Dr. Oz. Show.” “I’m a very visual person so your emotional and psychological energy, like, I do actually, picture it as like a barrel of energy, this stuff just eats — it drags you down. This is such drivel!
Well, I'm going to go ahead and post a list of the advertisers from last night's show and the number of times their ad aired. Please feel free to scroll past if it does not interest you, but I find it fascinating. We've often talked about how TFMJG has gotten a pass on many issues due to the fact that she has a lot of children, is white, a 'typical' suburban mom, is able to control the narrative in that whatever allegations of abuse have been proven so far are not widely known, etc. If not for these factors, I believe the advertisers would be up in arms as they were during the Duggar fiasco. I also believe TLC is playing fast & loose re: when and on which programs they will air. It is not good business for an advertiser to buy a block of ads without giving some specifics re: when and on which program they will air. Why air a bunch of your ads on a program with declining ratings when a better choice might be Outdaughtered or LPBW?
So here goes. The ads are listed in order by the number of times they were shown during last night's Kate + 8. Remember, the Toys-R-Us ad was shown 4 times during last week's show.
Sister Wives (4) Paranormal Lockdown (3) Walmart (3) Outdaughtered (2) Too Close To Home (2) Hunt's (2) Toyota (2) Emergen-C (2) Pistachios (2) Home Instead (2) TJ Maxx (2) Merci Chocolates (2) Pillsbury (2) Subaru (2) Robitussin (2) Famous Footwear (1) Delsym (1) Cortizone-10 (1) Cy Financial (1) Crayola (1) Kate + 8 (1) Sing (1) LPBW (1) Progresso (1) Shutterfly (1) Ritz (1) Cuisinart (1) Halos (1) Charmin (1) BearPaw (1) SNHU. edu (1) Fox--The Mick (1) Cancer Tx. Center of America (1) Hy-Vee Shootout (1)
NJGal51 said... 25 Can someone post a link to the celeb dirty laundry article? I know google is my friend but I'm on an iPhone right now so it's hard on the small screen. Thanks.
Also, why is she so hung up on showing her kids she overcomes her fears?
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Completely overblown mantra of the new age generation. As long as your fear is reasonable and doesn't cripple your life, move on from it. A fear of heights makes sense, because falling is dangerous. There is nothing about your life that is curtailed because you just don't want to skydive. You are not teaching your kids "life lessons" by jumping out of a plane. If kids really can't do something very important to life out of fear, like say, speaking to others they don't know, therapy is the far more appropriate course rather than have them watch mommy bungee jump.
I was thinking about the ratings,since Milo suppose to have an eye surgery.I wonder if Milo will blame her eye doctor for the lower viewers.Guess cause she couldn't spread the gospel of Kate's show.No one knew about it.
The way she needs to be praised constantly by her kids on how wonderful she is and comforted by them when she's wigging out facing her fears is a huge red flag to her psychosis. I can only imagine what she requires from these kids with panic attacks. We can only hope (sadly) that it's at fever pitch so the kids will sing like birds to the judge ...their only chance to get the hell out of dodge and escape lord of the flies
Oops! How'd that happen? Thanks for catching that. But it's very odd, if you go to that link, the story says "Updated September 23, 2016." Weird.
But if the gag order was in place as of 11/21, doesn't that mean he would already have filed his suit prior to that date? That was my point, she went on these shows and flapped her gums despite an order not to.
Thanks Local. TFW really is a piece of work. Let's see, her show hadn't yet aired when the GMA interview was on, correct? Now that people have seen her show WITHOUT Collin the blowback might be epic. People just don't believe the dab, dab dab, cry, cry, cry persona because she's shown how callous she really is.
I did a search on FB for post about "Kate Gosselin" and look what I found. Seems like since Kate has returned to TV, someone is using it to his advantage to advertise his plastic surgery practice.
The Celeb Dirty Laundry piece is kind of interesting. Of course, we knew she'd never go back to nursing. But she's STILL insisting that she needs reality TV money to raise the kids? If what she and Jon have said over the years about their trusts is true, that's just nonsense. Either she's spending a lot more than she's making (ludicrous given her cheapness) or the money's not staying in the household. Hmm, where could it be going? I wouldn't be surprised if half her panic is at the thought of a judge perhaps auditing her spending or appointing a guardian for the kids who will do so.
And this question at the end of the piece is surely rhetorical: "So does this mean that Kate is headed towards a meltdown?" Have you watched her TV show lately? I'm wondering if she's about to launch a campaign to blame all of this so-called "stress" from Jon for her banshee behavior. And that might actually have worked had she not been acting that way pretty much continuously in every freakin' episode, for which there is masses of video evidence.
Another reason I believe the custody case was filed before her 11/18 publicity tour is that Jon was able to see his kids on Thanksgiving. That might have been a last-minute decision, but I don't think it would have happened were his case not already in court.
Swimgirl (#28), yeah, that "barrel of energy" analogy was completely lost on me, too. In psychology terms, I think the correct expression for what she was doing was "talking out of her a**."
And thinking the tabloids are writing about her constantly? Bless her heart, I guess those panic attacks make her think it's 2009, and Chris the Pap is out there catching every gas station fill-up. Those days will never be back for her.
Now isn't that interesting. She had her tummy tuck in 2008, right? But he's using a photo from a 2010 People cover and calling it her "body transformation." That tells me she went back and had him do her flotation devices, too.
Ugh.....this drivel! The lies (her eyes dart everywhere), and she cannot speak a complete sentence. The "like", "um's", and "uh's" are annoying. Plus does she do it alone or not? SHE MAKES NO SENSE! "On adjusting her life after her divorce:
I'm down a parent so I'm really outnumbered now. I have to be kind of the mom and the dad and that's hard. It's been double duty and there's nobody to back me up so that's been--it's really challenging, but it's not something--I mean, I have more than the average number of kids, but it's not something that I'm doing alone. I mean, I've found that you're suddenly tuned into--there's so many single parents out there, single moms, single dads and we're all just kind of like trying to pick up the pieces together. It's hard."
Some more sneak peeks of the Dr. Oz interview. Luckily, the article has transcripts to go along with the video clips, so you don't have to listen to her.
This whole interview should be labeled "The Kate Gosselin Self-Pity Party".
From the article:
On how the media has scrutinized her motherhood:
I don't know why [I get media attention for everything I do]. I'm just a mom, like, all the moms everywhere. We're just doing our best and I'm really passionate about what I do and really loud about it, but, I mean, moms don't get enough credit. It's a stinking hard job. I mean, everything that we do we're putting the next generation out there. I don't take that lightly. I mess up a lot. But, I mean, I'm doing my best and I think that's the important thing to stop beating ourselves up and just to keep getting up and doing your best.
On adjusting her life after her divorce:.
I'm down a parent so I'm really outnumbered now. I have to be kind of the mom and the dad and that's hard. It's been double duty and there's nobody to back me up so that's been--it's really challenging, but it's not something--I mean, I have more than the average number of kids, but it's not something that I'm doing alone. I mean, I've found that you're suddenly tuned into--there's so many single parents out there, single moms, single dads and we're all just kind of like trying to pick up the pieces together. It's hard.
On how being a single parent shaped her children:
I think the good is the fact that we've kind of really pulled tighter. They're a lot more empathetic, whether you see it really or not. Like I only have so much energy. I only have so much time. Sometimes I have to choose, you know, which sports event or which program to go to. They are empathetic to there's just one of you. We pull together. They help me, clean up the kitchen and there's--that's really been the good. The bad is, unfortunately, they feel torn, a lot between parents and that really sucks.
So she's just a "mom like all moms everywhere"? Hmm, I don't see "moms everywhere" having a reality TV show to support themselves.
She's "down a parent, so she's really outnumbered NOW? She's been divorced for 7 years. She's acting like the divorce happened yesterday.
They feel "torn a lot between parents"? And who's fault is that Kate? Again, it's been 7 years since the divorce.
Kate seems like she entered a time warp and transported herself back to 2009. Those were all the same talking points she used back then.
Original T said... 43 Did you transcribe that or did toofab? Classic K8! She couldn't get out a simple declarative sentence to save her life.
Original T said... 44 Exactly! This is the one thing I've never been able to understand: Where K8 is right now is where K8 consciously chose to be. She can't blame it on Jon and his "running around," because she has even publicly admitted the marriage was OVER by then---even though she never corrects her fans, who typically cite Jon's behavior as why Kate had to divorce him. And the list of similar disjunctions is endless.
Now isn't that interesting. She had her tummy tuck in 2008, right? But he's using a photo from a 2010 People cover and calling it her "body transformation." That tells me she went back and had him do her flotation devices, too =============
The tummy tuck episode aired in January 2007, so she had the surgery sometime in 2006.
I like how he used the obviously photo-shopped People cover.
I really hope the judge takes a look at this Oz interview. Just this sentence: "I'm down a parent so I'm really outnumbered now." Jon is NOT dead! And as far as any of us is aware, he has never once refused to take his kids for visitation. He's even asked for MORE time. So WTF are you even talking about, K8? She has made these lies a part of her "story" and she's just never going to give them up, no matter how many times the truth gets shoved in her face.
What a DRAG it is to be a mom to so many kids! Poor outnumbered TFW! Like she said years ago, if she had it to do all over again, she wouldn't. She's like Eeyore with blonde extensions.
She's "down a parent, so she's really outnumbered NOW? She's been divorced for 7 years. She's acting like the divorce happened yesterday. ____ Let's see the topics that she always talks about.
1.Jon being a deadbeat. 2.How she does it all alone. 3.Me.Me.Me.Me-(dating or a new show) 4.Jon sucks. 5.I have count em' 8 eight.-(which leads to me me me) 6.Jon sucks...(the kids suck in a sly way) 7. Jon sucks. 8. Watch our boring show while I make it's all about me.
It's the same thing every times she opens her open lips.
So, if I'm getting the gist between the 'ums' and 'like's, being on tv is really hard but Kate's down a parent and she's doing it all for her children. Is that right? Kate is suffering through fame and being on tv for the sake of her kids?
Hmm...I get the sense maybe Kate has an inkling the show is over, so she's back to peddling her "Pity me" routine. Outnumbered. Piecing and patching. Jon's a deadbeat. I'm all alone.
I would love to have a real feel of 4. We have -18 real feel right now at 10pm cst. Actual temp -1.
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Ouch. We did the sub-zero temps last winter. Not fun. Christmas Day is forecast to be in the mid 50s. It just can't make up its mind what it wants to do!
http://people.com/tv/kate-gosselin-cant-stop-screaming-tubing-late-kate-plus-8/ ***** So interesting to watch Cara in the basement with Mady, saying NOTHING. Just ersatz casually picking lint off her pants and staring with this "look" of calm on the surface, with seething underneath.
I really hope the judge takes a look at this Oz interview.
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She is not smart enough to know when to shut the heck up, especially when there is a custody issue. She always manages to dig herself into that hole just a little bit deeper. My gosh, doesn't she have anyone who will advise her to zip her mouth? Where is her attorney?
What were the ratings when the show was cancelled the last time? ==================
Here's where you can find the ratings for the shows that aired starting in July 2010 and ending with the first RV episode in August 2011.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/search/label/Ratings
In July 2010, they started out with 2.229 million viewers. From there the ratings started dropping averaging roughly between 1.2 to 1.4 million.
The big drop came with the New Zealand episode in April 2011. That show had .874 million. The episode after that, Philly Fun had .681 million.
The rest of the 2011 season averaged just about 1 million viewers, except for the 2nd RV episode(1.685 million viewers) and the finale which received the highest rating of the season starting in April 2011. That got 2.1 million viewers.
I'm sure her attorney advised her to shut her pie hole but clients sometimes don't listen. It's just advice they can do what they want. She is a client nightmare, one of those who always thinks they know so much better than an attorney who has been through who knows how many family law cases and knows how to win if the client would just listen and follow instructions. What a pain she probably is.
Tucker's Mom said... 57 Hmm...I get the sense maybe Kate has an inkling the show is over, so she's back to peddling her "Pity me" routine. Outnumbered. Piecing and patching. Jon's a deadbeat. I'm all alone. ____
After 10+ years on TV you'd think she'd have something new to talk about.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59 I'm sure her attorney advised her to shut her pie hole but clients sometimes don't listen. _____ Um remember Kate is always right. So if she wants to talk she going to talk.
I wonder what she will do when the children are old enough to reason and realize what she did to their childhood and relationship with their father and relatives...............
Oh, I imagine they will be about 50 years old before they understand the gaslighting & narcissistic personality of their mother. It takes a really long time to thoroughly process all of that information & to understand the impact it has had on your own life & that of your own children... Even then, only if you are introspective enough to pursue it... Lots of therapy in their future, I imagine..
My prediction is that the Gosselins will become a hot psych class for college students. Reality TV and the irreparable damage done to these children and others like them.
Dr Oz isn't going to challenge Kate or get real answers out of her. He's a fame whore, too. Kate still seems surprised that Jon isn't doing exactly what she wants him to do. Somebody please buy her a dictionary. Divorce means you are not married anymore. On one hand, many divorced women would love to have her resources of hired help and money and time. On the other hand, many divorced women would not want to be alone like her with no family and friends.
Unfortunately, I don't think anything will change. The judge likes her, TLC likes her. Kate can go on Dr Oz and imply that Jon eats children for breakfast and enough fans will love her for how great a mother she is. Kate is a saint because she managed to gestate babies in her uterus; Jon is the devil because he wore ugly tshirts. Neither parent is a saint but I think they would have had a much better chance to be decent parents without a tv show.
It's Collin who did her in. Like I've said she really called this one wrong. She thought all the moms out there with special needs kids would relate to her. Instead, they are shunning her, thinking to themselves I never could send my kid away! And even if I did I would never act like she did, like she simply sent the family station wagon away for repairs, we'll miss it while it's gone. The one thing she never bargained for are that a lot of fans are actually in her shoes, and have chosen a very different mile than she did. Those darn shoes finally caught up.
Oh, boo-f'ing-hoo. Another "set the record straight" tour? Ugh - don't watch Dr. Oz, and don't intend to start. Oh yes - nothing is off limits - but no one ever challenges her. Same shit, different day.
But the ratings plummeting is nice to see - death by a thousand cuts. Seems appropriate.
And her mentioning her "health"? Really? Is that the angle you needed to get your gaping maw of a fame hole on the Dr. Oz show? She really is desperate.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59 I'm sure her attorney advised her to shut her pie hole but clients sometimes don't listen. It's just advice they can do what they want. She is a client nightmare, one of those who always thinks they know so much better than an attorney who has been through who knows how many family law cases and knows how to win if the client would just listen and follow instructions. What a pain she probably is.
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Just think. Julie May Carson is on an island somewhere, sitting on the pile of cash she made with TFW, getting waited on hand and foot by tanned cabana boys, sipping Mimosa's, and chomping on chocolate covered organic strawberries, giggling that she doesn't have to deal with her former client, Shirt Show (Cat. 5) TFW!
Admin, you said she could of been the hero in this.
You are right. If she would of came out and said, I am stopping filming. We are having a family crisis. Collin has special needs and the filming is really preventing me from all my attention to Collin and his needs.
I would appreciate privacy and I will update as soon as I can.
Then she could of had a special and they could of advertised it that Collin was coming back and there is no telling how many millions of viewers they would of had. People would of been rallying for her and Collin and the kids.
She could of had Collin in the garage like Shoka and surprised the kids. Talk about a tear jerker.
Oh, yes. She WAY UNDERESTIMATED people not understanding Collin not being at his birthday party, sending him away and filming with out him, the People cover without him, preventing Jon from seeing him and GLOATING like a fat sow on tv that all the world doesn't know where he is, and that includes HIS LOVING!
This BACKBLOW is accelerating and it is going to get even worse when the trial starts and people start testifying against her.
Wonder if Steve testifies against her, will she kick him to the curb? He won't know how to help her anymore?
With any luck, TFW could be doing worse than Crazy Ex-Girlfriend with next week's episode. And, compared to TFW, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is way more entertaining.
Sideline Observer (#76), hey, there's an untapped nickname for The Former Mrs. Jon Gosselin: "Crazy Ex-Wife." When you haven't moved on after 7 years, and actually take to the airwaves to let the world know, I think you've officially earned that term.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 71 It's Collin who did her in. Like I've said she really called this one wrong. She thought all the moms out there with special needs kids would relate to her.
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I think he is being treated for anger/mental health issues. She tried to couch that as "special needs". Special needs to me means Autism spectrum, intellectual disabilities, cerebral palsy, etc. Perhaps she would have fared better if she were honest as to why he is away. It still leaves the fact that she doesn't appear to give a rat's azz that he isn't there though
Kate's having panic/anxiety attacks because her house of cards is falling in around her. Colin's gone, public is pissed about that, her ratings are falling dramatically and Jon is suing her.
One thing I will say about "Outdaughtered" I'm not a faithful watcher but I've seen a few episodes here and there. The mom seems to be way more hands on with her kids. They show her pushing them on the swing, playing with them, rolling around on the floor. Their play area is right off the kitchen so she's got her eyes on them all the time, unlike Kate who's favorite line was "Get down in the basement!" so she could stay upstairs away from them. I've never heard Danielle utter "Make a meal, clean up a meal, make a meal, clean up a meal" Danielle has plenty of help but she at least owns it and acknowledges it.
To clarify: It's nobody's business where C is or why. BUt if she's going to make it public, she should have been honest about it. Best would have been to close up shop and put all that energy into helping C.
" hope TFW screws up big time with the interview and does or says something to cause the judge to weigh in really heavily against her."
She already did, when she said that "being on tv is hard work". That statement belies the fantasy of the kids not even knowing the cameras are there because, you know, they "just run in and out of the frames".
Does TFW ever give a moment's thought to the burden she places on her children by sharing her suffering with them so intimately? And then going on TV and sharing it with the world? She talked about their empathy. Why must they know how hard things are for her? Her focus should be on them -- their needs, wants, struggles and fears. She can talk a blue streak about them being the only thing that matters in her life. But it rings hollow when she contradicts it the next second with yet another narcissistic comment. She is a horrible mother.
The whole panic attack thing might be fabricated to get her on the show. It almost sounds like a Lucy Ricardo hare-brained scheme. "Wait, Dr. Oz, I can only be on your TV show if I have a medical problem? Ummm, well, like, ummm...I do have one! It's, ummm, well, like...panic attacks! Like literally! See You Next Thursday!"
The war of words between Kate Gosselin and ex-husband Jon Gosselin rages on.
The "Kate Plus 8" star will appear on Thursday's "The Dr. Oz Show" to discuss everything from the couple's bitter divorce to child abuse allegations -- but a few sneak peek clips give us a taste of the drama to come.
The duo have been mudslinging each other in the press all year, after Jon kicked off 2016 by revealing he hadn't spoken to one of his kids in over a year. Kate later revealed that their son Colin was enrolled at a live-in facility to deal with his "special needs," as daughter Mady said Jon "doesn't even know us."
They want a dad who's there for them. If I'm gonna be really honest, there was kind of the old Jon and the new Jon and none of us can quite understand, like, what happened there. So we struggled together. I mean, they coined it years ago, old daddy and new daddy. That's understandable, but, like, hard to kind of digest for all of us.
I'm down a parent so I'm really outnumbered now. I have to be kind of the mom and the dad and that's hard. It's been double duty and there's nobody to back me up so that's been--it's really challenging, but it's not something--I mean, I have more than the average number of kids, but it's not something that I'm doing alone. I mean, I've found that you're suddenly tuned into--there's so many single parents out there, single moms, single dads and we're all just kind of like trying to pick up the pieces together. It's hard.
I don't know why [I get media attention for everything I do]. I'm just a mom, like, all the moms everywhere. We're just doing our best and I'm really passionate about what I do and really loud about it, but, I mean, moms don't get enough credit. It's a stinking hard job. I mean, everything that we do we're putting the next generation out there. I don't take that lightly. I mess up a lot. But, I mean, I'm doing my best and I think that's the important thing to stop beating ourselves up and just to keep getting up and doing your best.
I think the good is the fact that we've kind of really pulled tighter. They're a lot more empathetic, whether you see it really or not. Like I only have so much energy. I only have so much time. Sometimes I have to choose, you know, which sports event or which program to go to. They are empathetic to there's just one of you. We pull together. They help me, clean up the kitchen and there's--that's really been the good. The bad is, unfortunately, they feel torn, a lot between parents and that really sucks.
Over In TFW's County said... 59 I would love to have a real feel of 4. We have -18 real feel right now at 10pm cst. Actual temp -1.
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Ouch. We did the sub-zero temps last winter. Not fun. Christmas Day is forecast to be in the mid 50s. It just can't make up its mind what it wants to do! ***** Last Christmas in PA (and throughout the NE), it was warm and foggy as pea soup! Just nasty. I'd rather have sunny and cold!
Over In TFW's County said... 60 Hmm...I get the sense maybe Kate has an inkling the show is over, so she's back to peddling her "Pity me" routine.
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It ain't over until we see videos of fans in the Walmart parking lot. ******** And if that crazy sheep isn't going to parade around in the Walmart parking lot, I'll volunteer. With bells on!
“Having an ex-husband who doesn’t see the value in uplifting his children and his family, whether he chooses to be on the show or not, is extremely difficult,” she adds. ***** Ah, there it is. This all about filming. Period.
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She outed herself when she said, whether he wants to be on the show or not.
The comment was all about filming. Jon is not uplifting because Jon doesn't want to film. No matter god knows how many people experts and layman who have said her kids should stop filming. Jon hasn't wanted to be on the show for seven years. Isn't it time to move on? Good grief. She won! She can film to her heart's content and has been. What does Jon uplifting this or not have to do with anything, she has what she wants.
I've said it before, she will never, ever forgive him for stopping the show for what, all of six months? She wants those six months of paychecks. He owes her. And she would get back together with him in a flipping heartbeat if it meant better ratings.
Nicky said... 72 Oh, boo-f'ing-hoo. Another "set the record straight" tour? Ugh - don't watch Dr. Oz, and don't intend to start. Oh yes - nothing is off limits - but no one ever challenges her. Same shit, different day.
But the ratings plummeting is nice to see - death by a thousand cuts. Seems appropriate. --------------------------------- TFW thinks she is always right, and everything is someone else's fault. This has been going on for years. At some point you would think she would take a look at herself and get professional help. But she won't because she is, in my opinion, a BiPolar Narcissist, who is always right.
I hate the way she treats the boys like second class citizens.
Kate is a twit said... 63 ****** Thank you for the synopsis of ratings. Kate had a lot of steam back in 2010. I can't believe TLC is still filming seasons. smdh
I don't know why [I get media attention for everything I do]. I'm just a mom, like, all the moms everywhere. We're just doing our best and I'm really passionate about what I do and really loud about it, but, I mean, moms don't get enough credit. It's a stinking hard job. I mean, everything that we do we're putting the next generation out there. I don't take that lightly. I mess up a lot. But, I mean, I'm doing my best and I think that's the important thing to stop beating ourselves up and just to keep getting up and doing your best. ************************ People are CALLING YOU OUT dumba$$. And have been since day ONE. You Feed the fire as far as calling Jon out on whatever offenses you've fabricated in that brain of yours, but DO NOT put a microscope on YOUR abuses. And NO! You are NOT a mom like everyone else. YOU know it, WE know it, your KIDS know it. Deep down, way way down there in that black charred soul of yours, you KNOW IT. Just keep burying it, you'll never ever face your issues, you just keep convincing yourself it's the world against you.
Kate is a twit said... 63 ****** I think with Kate's blabbering on Dr. Oz, it crystalized for me, the notion that Kate really does view her children as possessions. (no to Vanessa!). If they are taken away, or go away, or are legally anything but 100% hers, I think she'd have a nervous breakdown. If, big if, she's having actual panic attacks, I think it might be because the house of cards is finally coming down.
Jeanne said... 70 Dr Oz isn't going to challenge Kate or get real answers out of her. He's a fame whore, too ****** No, he's not. As a matter of professional decorum, you don't invite a guest on your show to tear them a new one. You have a pre-approved agenda and talking points/questions, and you go out on stage and put on your dog and pony show. My hope is that Dr. Oz brings concerns to the surface and conducts the interview in a way that allows the viewers to make up their own mind- IOW, not a total ass-kissing fest.
Divorce means you are not married anymore. On one hand, many divorced women would love to have her resources of hired help and money and time. On the other hand, many divorced women would not want to be alone like her with no family and friends.
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I'd venture to say most divorced women have to work, full time, outside the home. They cannot spend nearly enough time with their children as they would like if they had a partner to share in everything. That has to be a huge turn off for all those normal divorced women to see someone whining so much when she is set up so much better than they are. And what does she do with her luck? Squanders it.
You'r not going to get any host to club Kate over the head with the dummy stick. It's not like Dr. Phil drubbing his mediocre guests. Kate is considered a celeb, and gets special treatment. No one is going to take the gloves off. It's sickening. It's not like what Kate does affects only Kate. She's driving her family into the ground.
No, he's not. As a matter of professional decorum, you don't invite a guest on your show to tear them a new one. You have a pre-approved agenda and talking points/questions, and you go out on stage and put on your dog and pony show.
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Absolutely. Can Billy Bush have his job back now? Because he was doing exactly that, maintaining professional decorum so guests would keep coming back over and over.
I don't care that Oz won't question her, who cares. She is doing just fine all on her own. Let her talk. Give her a platform. It's actually the best thing he could do is just let her speak. She'll just lie even more if questioned so what's the point.
Dr. Mehmet OzVerified account @DrOz 1m1 minute ago Today, @Kateplusmy8 is here to discuss her rise to reality TV fame and being a mom to 8 kids in their teens: http://bit.ly/2hAhAbP
Oh, so she's not going to throw her children's father under the bus? Good to know. And it's not "today," it's a freakin' MONTH ago.
The Nov 12th filming of the interviews is more revealing for another reason. Doesn't it make the most sense to do the post-interviews as soon as possible so things are fresh, especially with kids? They had all this footage in the can for months and months, and during that whole time the show got pushed back and back. Makes me think it really is by the skin of her teeth they are even airing these, and that the decision to air was a very last minute requiring a last minute filming of interviews to make the episodes complete. If it was contemplated maybe they WON'T air the footage, it makes no sense to spend money on filming interviews.
They may have tested it and predicted these low ratings. It may have been a VERY close call whether to bother to air any of this in the first place, which means spending more money to film interviews. Ultimately they filmed them, but so late in the game it's obvious what's going on. I know, I know, we've been saying she's toast for awhile now, but this time is different.
What was she blathering about not being able to make it to every sports thing? As far as we know, only one of her 8 kids is even involved in sports. And if even if each kid had 100 activities, what do you want to bet that Jon would be there with bells on if he was invited?
TFW thinks if she continues to talk about Jon like he's still the dude in the Ed Hardy shirts, he can stay frozen that way in America's mind. The father of her children, and she tears him to shreds on national TV with a barely-hidden smirk. Still keepin' it klassy with that high road, eh, TFW?
I know, that one had me LOL. She really is a piece of work. And I'd like to know just how she is "uplifting" with regard to her kids and family---by having TLC pay for numerous lavish vacations cuz she won't? And by quite consciously making them uncomfortable with her behavior for the cameras and in public?
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She has forever failed to understand that especially with something like filming, people are going to have all different perspectives on it. Maybe Jon thinks the best way to be uplifting to his children is to give him privacy, can she imagine that?
She has never once acknowledged that she understand where the other side is coming from in terms of concerns about filming. I think she would go very far to have some acknowledgment of all the down sides, followed by mitigating explanations of how she is addressing that. To refuse to even acknowledge the harm of filming, even if you ultimately choose to keep filming, is just hardheaded. Everybody sees the downsides, even her sheeple, but her.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 96 The Nov 12th filming of the interviews is more revealing for another reason. Doesn't it make the most sense to do the post-interviews as soon as possible so things are fresh, especially with kids? They had all this footage in the can for months and months, and during that whole time the show got pushed back and back. Makes me think it really is by the skin of her teeth they are even airing these, and that the decision to air was a very last minute requiring a last minute filming of interviews to make the episodes complete. If it was contemplated maybe they WON'T air the footage, it makes no sense to spend money on filming interviews. _____
K8 had to rewrite the script after everything was in the can. She had to have her version out there. I think it upset her initially that the show's air date was a moving target, but I think she finally also saw it as an opportunity to shape the story the way she wants it told. In other words, full of lies.
Agree completely with Admin. And fencing may keep your dog in, but does nothing to keep coyote packs out. Your dog could easily be trapped in his own yard..
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Yep. And one of my biggest fears about GPS is that especially for someone like Kate it can give you false security. GPS may tell you where your dog is and that's fine, but it does not prevent your dog from getting into a heap of trouble.
Dogs are forever three years old. They need to be watched. If you are leaving them alone, they need to be in enclosed spaces with any hazards removed. I do NOT believe in letting dogs roam outside out of your sight, with a few rare exceptions like working dogs who are trained specifically to do so, when they are on duty and herding and hunting.
Dogs never grow up and become 28 and old enough to stay out of trouble. They will never not find trouble, which is why you need to be a responsible pet owner and stop pawning things off on fences and GPSes.
Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver got together for their daughter's 27th birthday. For pete's sake, this man had a child with their housekeeper, and his ex is willing to keep him in her life for the sake of their children's happiness and well being. Apparently Maria loves her kids more than she hates her ex.
K8 had to rewrite the script after everything was in the can. She had to have her version out there. I think it upset her initially that the show's air date was a moving target, but I think she finally also saw it as an opportunity to shape the story the way she wants it told. In other words, full of lies.
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Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if a part of her did the People interview about Collin because she was in panic mode about the show getting pushed back. Maybe she did it to prove to TLC there was still interest and that they should air her show. That would be really sick, but I don't put it past her.
I wonder if she knows Jon is serious about getting shared legal custody and she knows he won't approve the kids to film. Thus not "uplifting" them in their "passion for filming".
FlimsyFlamsy said... 84 Does TFW ever give a moment's thought to the burden she places on her children by sharing her suffering with them so intimately? ****************** YES, THIS X 1000!! Her suffering (and I use that term loosely) is HERS to bear, either alone or to a girlfriend, other family, a doctor but NEVER your children. They didn't ask for this Kate, YOU did, so suck it up. They shouldn't be made to feel guilty for your hard life when they didn't ask to be born. Life deals you cards and they may not be the hand you'd planned on but YOU'VE got to play them, not hand them to your kids to deal with. She's educated, she's got a professional degree and she's got lots of money in the bank. Does she not realize how blessed she is? And that she could pretty much write her own ticket on whatever she wants to do in terms of a good paying, steady job? Argh!!!!!
Even if she truly is "suffering" through whatever emotional mess she thinks her life is, a good mother does not let on to her kids.
Her kids know all about this. And this is a big part of why they are parentified. The more a parent lets on to a kid how much they are struggling the more many kids start to feel like they need to help and support them somehow much like a parent would a struggling child. I don't need tabloids to tell me about her, she says it all herself!
Neither parent is a saint but I think they would have had a much better chance to be decent parents without a tv show. ****** I agree, mostly from the standpoint that they both wouldn't have been drunk with power from being a "stah" on reality tv. Kate cut Jon out like a coyote chewing it's leg off to get out of a trap. She thought she was better off without him, didn't need him and forged on, only barely tolerating his existence. That would never have been possible had they remained 2 mediocre people who needed to pull together to make things work post divorce.
One thing I will say about "Outdaughtered" I'm not a faithful watcher but I've seen a few episodes here and there. The mom seems to be way more hands on with her kids ***** It really is a big leg up in life when your mother doesn't say, "I just can't. There are too many of you. Why even try". I think we are seeing the manifestations of not bonding and getting enough nurturing from Mommy.
Tucker's Mom, you're right, time will tell if Danielle's story changes. Next weeks preview showed her 'scolding' her husband for buying a drone to play around with when 'We've got 6 college educations to pay for! You need to be more responsible'. In comes the financial planner. *eye-roll* I do see some shades of Kate with her like buying a house they can't afford without TLC's help, so we'll see how it plays out.
And I totally agree with your statement that we are seeing the manifestations of not bonding and getting enough nurturing from Mommy. Absolutely!
Chef (#117), in fact, when she announced C's situation, she was quick to tell the world it was hard on HER, too. He got about a nanosecond of individual attention, and then the story became about her. As usual.
Thanks for the list of advertisers. Those do not look like big-bucks ads. The big ones from last week are gone. No doubt those companies objected. Good for them. It's been said for a couple years now that TLC has problems getting advertisers for K+8. Let's hope that those problems, along with the backlash over Collin and the low ratings, will spell the end for this craptastic show.
What is wrong with TLC with regards to handling its talent? They hang on until it's too late to separate themselves from the bad press, then have to do damage control. There was talk for years about Josh Duggar molesting girls, but TLC hung onto that family unto it all blew up. Kate's abuse of the kids has long been documented, but TLC still didn't let her go. And then there wasToby Willis, who was kind of creepy even if there weren't stories. TLC is becoming known for glorifying child abusers and molesters, and it's their own fault. They could have distanced themselves. They chose not to. Many of their shows used to get 2-4 million viewers per episode. Now the best they can hope for is 1-1.6 million or so they might want to spend some time thinking about why that is. Question--is Kate Plus 8 the lowest-rated show on TLC now? If not, it has to be close.
You're right, this time is different. The way TLC kept pushing the air dates back, and didn't confirm any of them even when Kate did is odd. Then there is the lack of promotion, and the 10pm time slot. Just before the cancellation in 2011, the show was put in that 10pm time slot. I think TLC is doing as much as they can (or, actually, as little as they can) to make sure the ratings tank. Why spend all that money filming and not promote he finished product? Don't they want to recoup their money? But low ratings means they can cancel and nobody will fight it. I am cinvinced that TLC wants this show to fail. They are done. It's just a matter of time.
People like this (from the K8 FB page) are her last hope, the ones that haven't bothered to educate themselves about the facts surrounding her journals. And she works hard on reinforcing the general ignorance of her few remaining patsys.
XXXXXX I am aware of the story that her journals were stolen by Jon and someone attempted to write a book using them..which was stopped when she sued. However I have never read any admission by her that those were really hers. And I certainly would NOT take the word of the thief who stole them. I do recall once she admitted that CPS had investigated over a spanking and nothing came of it. Whats more is that investigations are suppose to be extremely private and not public knowledge for good reason...so those who say they are in the know, are either getting illegally obtained information or just making it up.
TBH the only reason why Kate is saying she having health issues is because Collin is having them...Kate is always in competition with her kids.
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You're right. TFW has to make herself the martyr and remind everyone, including her own kids, of how burdensome her life is because she's making so many sacrifices, like being on tv, for them. (because if you haven't heard, she has sooo many kids).
I don't believe the panic attack BS. If anything, she's finally feeling some anxiety about the realities of the mess she's made of her life. The show is on it's last legs, all of the comments on her media appearances, no matter how much she tries to twist the narrative, are negative because no one believes her anymore.
While she's busy trying to rewrite history and the truth, I think she's, for once, actually concerned (as much as a narcissist is able to) about what is going to happen with the psych evals and the custody hearings. I think she's finally feeling some heat and she's figuring out her options and allies aren't as abundant as they once were.
I don't believe for a second she gets real panic attacks. How diminishing to people who really suffer from those. True panic attacks are like heart attacks and can send you to the hospital. This is just like her OCD. She felt upset once and self diagnosed herself.
"She can film to her heart's content and has been. What does Jon uplifting this or not have to do with anything, she has what she wants." ******** The 'uplifting' thing is code for: "Ok, you don't want to be on the show, but don't you dare talk down about filming because the kids will GET THE IDEA THAT THEY CAN SAY NO TO IT AS WELL".
In no way on any planet does she want the children to find out that they can say 'no' to filming because her inducements/requirements to do so are all a pack of lies.
Admin, it is diminishing to people who suffer from them. Just like her comments about Postpartum depression was diminishing to those who suffer from that. What was it she said, "I just willed myself to not get it. I don't have time for that" or something to that affect, like it's just something you can control.
Hmmm about pushin their air date back and back...she announced C was gone at the end of August correct? But he had been gone for months. I have a feeling the schedule kept being pushed back.l because they expected Collin hime and wanted him on the couch interviews which they filmed in september. They were going to try and bamboozle people by shuffling the episodes and then having c there and not mentioning he had been gone. Something forced their hand. Perhaps c spilling the beans on his abuse and therefore not being allowed back home? Just a theory
From the Dr. Oz clips that I've seen it's the same old story, she is wallowing in permanent victimhood. Why can't she see it is the children who are the victims of her illness.
admin 102...She has never once acknowledged that she understand where the other side is coming from in terms of concerns about filming. ************************** She is not capable. She can only view the world through her "with me or against me" glasses. Every little thing is seen only in regard to how it affects her, there is no other view in katieland.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 127 Admin (#126), I hope Dr. Oz tells her to just choose to not have panic attacks, the way she chose to not have post partum depression. ____ Am I sick for finding this funny?
Oh please. Kate's "panic attacks" = Kate panicking that Jon will be able to stop the filming of his children... That Jon may have a say in the children's lives... That Jon will More custody on days Kate wants to film... That the public will know Kate abused Collin.
fade2black (#135), I totally agree. Things are just black and white to her. That's why Jon is the enemy. Co-parenting isn't remotely within her realm of understanding.
Ive suffered from panic attacks for several years. The first one was terrifying, I thought I was having a heart attack ( blood pressure was 215/185). I landed in the ER. Absolutely terrifying!
I think the show is done- TLC has a new family of cute babies to exploit (wonder if their house has special lights installed for filming? Barf) It's like watching a show centered around teenagers-- eventually those kids have to graduate and a new cast steps in.
I've never watched Oz (not planning to start either), but is Kate the sole focus of the show or just a small segment??
Jon's filing for custody will finally settle it for me. He has plentyof evidence of abuse, parental alienation, making the kids work, etc. If this case doesn't change anything in regards to custody, then there's some critical information the public doesn't know.
This is it folks, the final showdown. I hope the kids win!
@Admin Many times Kate has panic over many things.Like when she was in "24 hour" protection of Hannah being with Jon or how about when she sued him for the "health" and "safety"of her kids.Also either she or BV said that her haters threaten to kill her and yet if she was in such a panic then why did she never go to the police and i've never herd of a hater getting arrest for attempted murder.Since the interview was before the show aired,my guess is her panic was over the Collin thing and that if he never returns home,this could effect her show.
@Sad but true (123) I love when the Kate fans always resort to the same old straw man arguments when it comes to negative things about Kate.The person is contradicting themselves because they make the claim Kate never said the journals were hers but then calls Robert a thief and that he stole them.
If Dr Oz did any research, he would see she reaped what she sowed. No one is forcing her to scream at her kids and say disparaging things. It isn't the tabloids, it is people who knew her, had interaction with her, also that saw on tv how she behaved. For me and if Dr Oz would be honest, the question should be--Why do you continue to hate your ex husband, who you made these children with, more than you love your kids. That is what it boils down to and no matter how much hope I have that the children can recover from their train wreck of a mother, she goes on tv and proves me wrong again. I think the dream was this super mom image and in actuality TLC produced a Reality trainwreck and she is so into her fame to see she was used, her family destroyed for the entertainment of strangers. If she is so willing to have her anger exploited in front of the cameras, how is she when they are off, a doting caring mother that is misunderstood???
Oh please. Kate's "panic attacks" = Kate panicking that Jon will be able to stop the filming of his children... That Jon may have a say in the children's lives... That Jon will More custody on days Kate wants to film... That the public will know Kate abused Collin.
If Kate weren't such a dumb a**, she'd have stayed away from the word "empathy." Did she show empathy toward her 3 year old twins when she laid on the couch sobbing because she wanted just one more? It was poor Mady who tried to comfort her. How scary for a 3 year old. Did she show empathy toward Colin when he was suffering with a compacted bowel when Kate was shopping for furniture? Her solution was to go see daddy. Did she show empathy toward Cara when she said her foot hurt-something she'd been complaining about for days according to her siblings? She had a babysitter take Cara to the ER.
If Dr Oz did any research, he would see she reaped what she sowed. No one is forcing her to scream at her kids and say disparaging things.
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That's kind of the implication from Kate isn't it? That she is this way because she has it so rough. No Kate. Lots of people have it hard. Lots of people have challenges. It's not a free pass to yell scream and overall be a nasty person.
Not watching the interview, but did she seriously say she can't attend all of the kids sporting events? Boo frickin' hoo. I am a widower with 2 kids and yeah...sometimes their softball games and dance competitions collide and I can't be there for both. I pick and choose and ensure that my daughters understand (which they do). I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for the bed she made and is now lying in. She is a complete tool who can't appreciate what she has in front of her. Instead, she chooses the victim route which has detrimental affects on her kids. Great parenting skills Kate, awesome.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 84 Does TFW ever give a moment's thought to the burden she places on her children by sharing her suffering with them so intimately? And then going on TV and sharing it with the world? She talked about their empathy. Why must they know how hard things are for her? ^^^^ Parentification personified. I hate that she burdens them CONSTANTLY.
Tucker's Mom said... 93 Kate is a twit said... 63 ****** I think with Kate's blabbering on Dr. Oz, it crystalized for me, the notion that Kate really does view her children as possessions. (no to Vanessa!). ^^^ UGH! That's NOD to Vanessa! Sorry, just saw it.
Jamesvader1194 said... 141 @Admin Many times Kate has panic over many things.Like when she was in "24 hour" protection of Hannah being with Jon or how about when she sued him for the "health" and "safety"of her kids. ____
That wasn't panic, it was spite. And vengeance. She wasn't about to pass up a chance to rip Jon out of her kids' lives for good. Oh and to bankrupt him too, just for the fun of it. She is truly scary in her need to obliterate anyone she perceives as having (possibly going to) hurt her. And she takes every hurt, big or small, as intentional. She is a very sick person.
XXXXXX 10m10 minutes ago @Kateplusmy8 - watching you on #DrOz - you're so well spoken, and you look fabulous! Well done!!!
K8 RT'd her the other night during the program and then replied to her. No wonder she's licking her boots. If she wants to know how "well spoken" K8 is, she should read the transcript, which is pretty much unintelligible.
I think Kate is confusing panic with "manic." She definitely has manic attacks. Mentally ill woman. Get treatment. If you really love your kids get treatment.
Within the first few minutes of Oz, she claims she has calmed down because freaking out wastes so much energy. This is absolute gold because she is gave this interview before her show aired which has shown her screaming, freaking out and her kids commenting in that's how she is all the tume about everything. She is making herself known now and it's not good.
Karen (#147), thanks for sharing, and I'm sorry to hear about your situation. And that's what is so infuriating about TFW. She acts as if there isn't another living parent to share the joys and sorrows of parenting, but there IS! And I think it's disrespectful to someone like you for her to wave that single-parent banner 24/7.
If Dr Oz did any research, he would see she reaped what she sowed. No one is forcing her to scream at her kids and say disparaging things. It isn't the tabloids, it is people who knew her, had interaction with her, also that saw on tv how she behaved. For me and if Dr Oz would be honest, the question should be--Why do you continue to hate your ex husband, who you made these children with, more than you love your kids. That is what it boils down to and no matter how much hope I have that the children can recover from their train wreck of a mother, she goes on tv and proves me wrong again. I think the dream was this super mom image and in actuality TLC produced a Reality trainwreck and she is so into her fame to see she was used, her family destroyed for the entertainment of strangers. If she is so willing to have her anger exploited in front of the cameras, how is she when they are off, a doting caring mother that is misunderstood???
This interview needs to be exhibit A in Jon''s court case. The transcript alone shows her contradicting herself in the same thought. She says being on TV isn't easy...days a few more things, bashes Jon and then days I can't change those things. Lord have mercy.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 126 I don't believe for a second she gets real panic attacks. How diminishing to people who really suffer from those. True panic attacks are like heart attacks and can send you to the hospital. This is just like her OCD. She felt upset once and self diagnosed herself.
Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if a part of her did the People interview about Collin because she was in panic mode about the show getting pushed back. Maybe she did it to prove to TLC there was still interest and that they should air her show. That would be really sick, but I don't put it past her. ****** That's exactly what I thought when the People issue came out. Kate's still got juice, so let's keep filming.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 110 Even if she truly is "suffering" through whatever emotional mess she thinks her life is, a good mother does not let on to her kids. ***** I'm sure I'm not alone here in growing into an adult, and growing wiser with age and years, and realizing the hardships my mother had. That woman had a lot of hard, but she soldiered on. Sure, I saw her pain from time to time, yet, she never BURDENED me with it. She stepped back and allowed me to live MY life. I know there were times, her mind and heart were heavy, and times when she was ill, and times she was weary, but she always put that on the back burner so I could shine and experience my own joys and sorrows, unfettered. Shit, now I'm crying...
Poor Collin can't have all the attention Kate needs the attention to.
******* Isn't that the saddest part of this all? Kate is actually competing with Collin for attention. He's a 12-year old boy sent away from home for treatment or placement, and Kate wants the pity. Pitiful, sure.
I am cinvinced that TLC wants this show to fail. They are done. It's just a matter of time. December 15, 2016 at 8:28 AM ****** I wonder if TLC wanted Kate back, after seeing good numbers for the "specials", and Kate locked in X seasons in her contract. I just makes sense that TLC is contractually obligated to continue filming and hey, might as well air the shows in the 10pm slot.
This will sound like a total conspiracy but i wonder if the reason Milo went dark was because Kate told her about the show dying and this was Milo's "Get out" card to go dark for some time.I know it sounds totally crazy but if anyone remembers,i herd Milo was in the hospital during the time Kate's show was first cancelled back in 2011 and that if anyone told her,it could effect her recovery.I don't remember Milo ever said she had bad eyes to Kate or her friends and had to to get surgery.Its odd how with the decline in ratings she suddenly announces she has an eye surgery.I would think she'd play the pity card to Kate and her friends and complain about her poor eyesight.
And what the hell!? She says she didn't tell Jon where Collin is because she has to make decisions not to tell Jon because he couldn't keep that information safe! Um...bitch please....the ONLY one exposing anything about Collin has been YOU!!! Not Jon. God she is infuriating! But she did admit that she has no relationship with Jon which the judge should figure out that she's the one who alienates. And she goes awn and awn about the picture that the tabloids paint of her. Yes TFW ...but it has nothing to do with what everyone sees you do ON tv right? So if it's so infuriating why don't you get the hell off tv and then you won't be in tabloids and people won't talk about you....you will be a nobody again and then you can really just "be a mom". She says she abhors the word fame/famous! Yeah right...thats why you've nipped, tucked, got new boobs, injections etc. because you needed to look hot in target in nowhere PA. What a tool
chefsummer #Leh said... 136 FlimsyFlamsy said... 127 Admin (#126), I hope Dr. Oz tells her to just choose to not have panic attacks, the way she chose to not have post partum depression. ____ Am I sick for finding this funny?
I have been a long time lurker. Posted once or twice. I have to post now to people who will understand. Dr. Oz interview. Wowza! Wowza! Wowza. If you have seen it then you will understand when I say I feel like "blowing chunks" right now! Phreddielee
FlimsyFlamsy...138...Co-parenting isn't remotely within her realm of understanding. ******************************* She doesn't co-parent, she anti-parents.
Tucker's Mom said... 169 chefsummer #Leh said... 136 FlimsyFlamsy said... 127 Admin (#126), I hope Dr. Oz tells her to just choose to not have panic attacks, the way she chose to not have post partum depression. ____ Am I sick for finding this funny?
****** Mind over matter, baby! --- :-)
how come she can't cure herself from being a bad mom and a witch/
This will sound like a total conspiracy but i wonder if the reason Milo went dark was because Kate told her about the show dying and this was Milo's "Get out" card to go dark for some time.I know it sounds totally crazy but if anyone remembers,i herd Milo was in the hospital during the time Kate's show was first cancelled back in 2011 and that if anyone told her,it could effect her recovery.I don't remember Milo ever said she had bad eyes to Kate or her friends and had to to get surgery.Its odd how with the decline in ratings she suddenly announces she has an eye surgery.I would think she'd play the pity card to Kate and her friends and complain about her poor eyesight.
--- Yeah, Milo does seem to perfectly time these things with her alleged surgeries. Strange coincidence, or planned? I don't think, however, that Kate told her about the show not bringing in viewers. Milo could probably figure this out for herself. She's incredibly dumb, but I don't think she's *that* dumb.
Jbranck1980 (#160), isn't TFW's word salad bizarre? Yes, she's practically laying Jon's case against her right out to the judge. And all the while, feeling thoroughly adorable. You'd feel sorry for her if she wasn't so bloody awful.
Phreddielee (#170), I remember seeing you here before, but without the "lee." Giving TFW a 3-"Wowza" rating is pretty bad! It must not be her fault, though. I assume Dr. Oz just didn't know how to help her...
"Kate Gosselin, star of the reality TV show, Kate Plus 8, reflects on life after marriage and the ups and downs of being a single parent to 8 young teens."
Someone didn't do his/her research. They are not all young teens. How difficult is it to get the ages correct?
Kate's Fetid Soul said... 161 Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 126 I don't believe for a second she gets real panic attacks. How diminishing to people who really suffer from those. True panic attacks are like heart attacks and can send you to the hospital. This is just like her OCD. She felt upset once and self diagnosed herself.
She's also blamed her crabbiness on low blood sugar.
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Well. According to the show, she is crabbie, constantly. Must go to the ER, unconscious several times a year.
I know someone who does. Thank God he has had a reprieve the last 2 years. Last time he went, he was unconscious and his blood sugar was 30 and it took 3 days just to get it up to 70. Over a week in the hospital.
Totally OT, but...I am feeling so awful about what's going on in Aleppo. It's heartbreaking to know the extent of innocent people's suffering. And feeling helpless to do anything about it.
FlimsyFlamsy #179 LOL Been so long since I posted, couldn't remember which one I used! And three WOWZA's doesn't come close to what I was thinking! Phreddielee or Phreddielee
Karen said... 147 Not watching the interview, but did she seriously say she can't attend all of the kids sporting events? Boo frickin' hoo. I am a widower with 2 kids and yeah...sometimes their softball games and dance competitions collide and I can't be there for both. I pick and choose and ensure that my daughters understand (which they do). ****** First, I'm so sorry. Second, you're amazing. Third, this is what it looks like to live an imperfect life, making choices and sacrifices. You don't throw your hands up in the air and say, 'There's just too much to do, so I'll do nothing'.
She even srated she supports the kids who visit Jon even if those visits cause "ouchies" Um...WTH?
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She said WHAT??
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There has to be a transcript somewhere. In her ramblings, she said she said something very close to that. Almost to me implying she supports that relationship even if it causes them pain.
If that "ouchies" comment is real...well, folks, things are so much worse in that house than we've even imagined. Please, please, please let this be the end of the show, and let Jon be able to help pick up the pieces of his broken family.
There has to be a transcript somewhere. In her ramblings, she said she said something very close to that. Almost to me implying she supports that relationship even if it causes them pain.
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She is AWFUL for implying their is something painful about their time with their father. Go sell it to family law court or a therapist. Stop undermining their relationship with him. Also, I don't care what is or isn't happening, it's not her place to tell the public what she thinks. It's a crude violation of their relationship with him and privacy to use the public forum to lodge her complaints. Excuse me how is this not violating their no discussion of the case order????
Not watching the interview, but did she seriously say she can't attend all of the kids sporting events? Boo frickin' hoo. I am a widower with 2 kids and yeah...sometimes their softball games and dance competitions collide and I can't be there for both. I pick and choose and ensure that my daughters understand (which they do).
== Amen. My husband passed away when our four kids were still in school. All were involved in sports and school activities, dance, drama, music, gymnastics. Yes, there were times when I couldn't be everywhere at once. In that case, I called family members or friends to act as surrogates. They were always happy to do so. I made sure that someone was there to cheer them on. The kids understood.
Jon is not dead, for heaven's sake. Call him. Kate has a choice. I didn't. Kate is such a martyr. Speaking of which, has Gladys re-appeared?
Normal parents can't always attend everything. People have lives. They work, they have church meetings, they go out of town for conferences and business trips. What is she talking about not being able to attend everything? That's life for EVERYONE. Why is everything a special case for her??
TFW has perfected all of the "talking points" she thinks single mothers want to hear. She's preying on any loneliness they may feel, their exhaustion after a long week, the conflicts they face trying to make the best decisions for their kids' well being but she has a huge problem or disconnect. She is none of the things she says she is or does and she doesn't think anyone sees the truth and her hypocracy.
The way she tries to manipulate everyone from Dr. Oz to viewers, to the live audience, is hard but fascinating to watch. She's really become a pro at it. It's painful to watch her mental illness come through because IMO she really believes her own BS.
If anyone takes her at her word (which way too many people have done and still do) she comes off as a caring, nurturing, do-it-all mother and I think this is the image she's given to the family court.
She's never been challenged in the media and I don't think she has been in court either. I hope Jon and his lawyer have done their homework and have lined up proof of defense against every single one of her excuses and claims. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think judges or social workers will pick up mental illnesses like w/TFW with just one time interviews and I hope they will do some homework @ TFW and not just take her at face value.
On Dr. Oz TFW had the gall to say that she's been investigated many times and even had social worker tell her they just wanted to 'stay and play and have fun with her well adjusted children' and I wanted to scream at the tv. Things like that are what give TFW the arrogance she has about the whole custody/abuse/Collin issues. And, that caseworker needs to have her license revoked!
She can dab at her eyes and tremble her voice on all of the talk shows she wants and she can claim to be doing everything she can for her kids and be so weary of it all, but there is too much proof that she is actually doing the opposite. Someone just needs to dig out the proof and hopefully the court will allow it to be presented and considered. The time is well past for the children to have to continue to suffer because of some legalities or rules or money issues or whatever has been going on in that family courtroom in PA.
Didn't Kate just do a show where she got up at 5:30 a.m. with the 2 remaining boys to make lunches for all, and the girls submitted their requests via post its? Today she tells Dr. Oz the girls make lunches for all the night before. When someone has to lie about such stupid stuff, you know they lie about everything.
I heard no mention of her attending or not attending the non existent "games".
She went on and on during the interview about she's just like other moms. Right, the ones that are single and go on 4 paid vacations a year. She is so full of $hit her eyes are brown. Throwing Jon under the bus, like he would actually tell the world where his son is. No Kate, no one would know he's not home if you didn't SELL his private medical info. Why didn't Oz ask HER why she released his private information?
Dr. Oz was following a script, with out one hard question about documented abuse. Kate wants to come off as a joke, that ya, I'm a "celebrity" so I get investigated all the time. No way those kids are well adjusted. And some of those kids should be involved in some sporting activities to get out their aggression. Hannah is miserable and has gained a ton of weight. (Sorry, but that girl had a huge gut on her). I am not bashing the child, it's her mother's fault she's on TV in a 2 piece bathing suit, not allowed any privacy. I'm sure if Mady and Cara had as Milo calls it "banging bikini bods" they would be showing off two. But they are just normal 16 year olds. Nothing special and not beauties. Kate must be mortified. Goes to show, the more you try to control, the more they find a way to revolt.
With respect to that "ouchies" comment, every single photo (and there are only a handful) that has been posted of Jon and the kids who visit him has shown comfortable, happy, engaged children. I defy her to find an unstaged photo of her and her kids that even approaches that level of normality. If a single unstaged photo even exists.
She really is in another world. She's jealous of Jon's ability to be happy with his family and his life.
The comments on the Dr Oz FB page are mostly negative. This individual seem s to be her main mouthpiece with multiple comments all in this tone. *** I think it says that they are judgemental and jealous. Not many can keep in such good shape and raise that many children and make sure they are not self entitled brats!***
This comment was the way many felt. ***oh please. She has money and limited fame. She is given things and people help her with her children. she knows nothing about being a single mom in the REAL world. Dr Oz.. you lost my respect comparing her to us.***
***Kate says she's "driven", yet she won't get a job. Just like every other mom? NO, You stay home all day, and live off your kids' privacy. Single mom story is getting old, you shut out THEIR FATHER. You're living in a million dollar home, don't work, not typical single mom. What a liar. The girls make lunch? On the show she faked getting up w/ the BOYS to make lunch. LIAR LIAR. Just filming "us". Yes, every single mother gets paid to take 3-4 vacations a year.***
Sherri @192 said...TFW has perfected all of the "talking points" she thinks single mothers want to hear. She's preying on any loneliness they may feel, their exhaustion after a long week, the conflicts they face trying to make the best decisions for their kids' well being but she has a huge problem or disconnect. She is none of the things she says she is or does and she doesn't think anyone sees the truth and her hypocracy. ======== I didn't watch the show but have been reading the comments on the Dr Oz FB page. I don't thing the REAL single moms are falling for her bullshit.
High Sodium Content @ 193 - Great comments. I agree 100%.
TLC actually posted something Kate-related today on her FB page, "Puppy Prep" or some cutesy nonsense. The comments are mixed as usual, but there was this interesting exchange:
XXXXX She's a wackadoodle !!!
XXXXX Do you know her?
XXXXX Yes, I do in fact ......through her (old) best friend Beth !
Now I bet THIS lady has some stories to tell. If only these people would come out of the woodwork and speak, there have to be hundreds who are biting their tongues.
And people are starting to notice things awry with others of the children (from FB):
XXXXX CARA, NEEDS TO GET COUNCILING AS WELL.. She's beginning to look frightening with that cold dead stare... The Lurch syndrome..
XXXXX The cutest personality in the entire Gossilin bunch is Adorable sweet sunshine smile Alexis..😀😀😀 But,. Suddenly she's been quiet the last few episodes...I'm wondering if this MOMS DOING OR THE. PRODUCERS..
784 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 784 Newer› Newest»I don't think that it's the tabloid stories that are affecting her health, I think it's the plummeting ratings. That and the fact that she can run but she can't hide from the upcoming court dates. Karma, it seems, may be a bigger bitch than TFW herself.
And if it isn't easy being on TV, TFW, why don't you get off of it?
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Oh, but then she couldn't pose on that pedestal she's put herself on and dab at her tears complaining about enduring the persecution... all for the kids.
My respect for Dr. Oz is at the same level as for Dr. Phil, it doesn't exist. I can't stand either of them.
I hope TFW screws up big time with the interview and does or says something to cause the judge to weigh in really heavily against her. Just when I think my opinion of her can't possibly go any lower, she does something like this. SMH
Tucker's Mom said... 185
What manager or PR person would thing Kate doing a victim tour would play well?
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My gut says it's only Kate and Steve at this point. Maybe they bring in some outside advice from time to time, but she's made such a mess of this new PR offensive that I think if someone else were in charge, they'd have forced her to STOP already. Dr. Oz might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back. She is getting zero sympathy from the public anymore, the very small portion that even continues to be aware of her. And she's really going out on a limb doing this so close to the custody hearing. Not smart.
I hope Jon is aware of the kids having to work on their Saturdays doing couch interviews. I am assuming she hasn't been so stupid as to cut into his visitation time with this nonsense (at least not since he filed for custody), but he and his attorneys need to know what these kids are obligated to do in order to support Mommy in the manner she's become accustomed to.
So now they're not only working, they've got the added stress of having to perform up to Mommy's expectations on what is supposed to be a rest day for them. She's out of her mind.
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You know darn well that those kids better march down to that basement set or else.
Just want to repeat my post #136 for those who believe that Kate made a special trip to NYC just to film Dr. Oz.
Kate did the Dr. Oz interview the same day that she did the others for Extra, Access Hollywood, GMA and Nightline(which was an extension of her GMA interview). She's wearing the same clothes as she wore for the Extra interview. She probably changed her outfit for the other interviews.
Also, her hairdresser posted a picture on IG showing her on the Dr. Oz set, the same day as when the Extra interview was taped, Nov. 18.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BM9LSh5lVhJ/
Dr. Oz's show and GMA are both taped at ABC studios in NY. So she did all her "set the record straight" interviews the same day on November 18.
How sad that these children not only have to work to earn their keep (and her's) and, the boys who have to get up at 5:00 am in order to do their homework before going to school all day, have to work Saturdays in order to do their couch interviews.
I hope the Judge gets copies of the 'shows' in order to get a complete picture of what their lives entail.
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For the New Orleans trip, I saw one couch interview where boy tups held a clapboard dated Saturday, 9/17 and then the girl tups did a couch interview holding a clapboard date Sunday, 9/18.
So they use up the whole weekend doing the couch interviews. Maybe they do the boys one day and the girls the other day. When do Mady, Cara and Kate do theirs? Friday night?
My respect for Dr. Oz is at the same level as for Dr. Phil, it doesn't exist. I can't stand either of them.
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Same here, although I bet Dr. Phil wouldn't touch her with a 10-foot pole. When he and Kate were on The View at the same time, he didn't want to engage her AT ALL.
I think Dr. Phil's involvement with j+K, to "save the brand", doesn't exactly align with Dr. Phil's brand.
Sad but true said... 154
She's not doing herself any favors with these interviews, because no one can reconcile what they see on their TVs when her show is on with how she's trying to come across with Dr. Oz. And rightfully so. She's a FRAUD, and she's scammed too many for too long. ALL of the comments on the US Weekly article are negative.
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I like this one:
Sad but true said... 154
She's not doing herself any favors with these interviews, because no one can reconcile what they see on their TVs when her show is on with how she's trying to come across with Dr. Oz. And rightfully so. She's a FRAUD, and she's scammed too many for too long. ALL of the comments on the US Weekly article are negative.
Great point! The old Kate isn't even recognizable in the new one anymore!
And she's really going out on a limb doing this so close to the custody hearing. Not smart.
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How sure are we that there is indeed a custody hearing close in the offing, and an open child abuse investigation?
If either one or both are true, she's nutso for not keeping her pie hole shut right now.
Kate is a twit said... 6
Just want to repeat my post #136 for those who believe that Kate made a special trip to NYC just to film Dr. Oz.
Kate did the Dr. Oz interview the same day that she did the others for Extra, Access Hollywood, GMA and Nightline(which was an extension of her GMA interview). She's wearing the same clothes as she wore for the Extra interview. She probably changed her outfit for the other interviews.
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Thank your for clarifying. I thought perhaps Kate got panicky and started drunk dialing all of her NYC peeps to hook her up with anyone willing to sit her ass on their couch.
I'm predicting another tearfest, just like Dr. Drew. She likes to cry it up for men.
I don't follow this mess as closely as some, but since all the interviews were done on 11/18, is this BEFORE Jon filed for custody?
If so she's probably needing those dog wipes for herself!
She's so stupid; she's on record saying all this stuff. It would be awesome if her copyrighted journal and the kid's TLC work schedule was admitted and discussed in court.
What work permits. LOL
It's karma that an icky boy brought down the house of Kate.
If I've been reading the posts correctly, there was an emergency hearing before Thanksgiving in which Jon was granted visitation with at least some of the kids on Thanksgiving as well as psychological evaluations ordered for all family members and a gag order for Jon & Kate was put in place. Right?
I believe that she either did not inform TLC of the latest court hearing or downplayed it and 'forgot' to mention the gag order to TLC. She then went on her latest media tour with apparently very little help from TLC. She probably has a bit of an "out" re: the gag order if the appearances were filmed before it went into effect/she had the actual order in hand. If she was smart, she would have asked Dr. Oz's producers not to air the segment tomorrow because I doubt the judge will take kindly to this latest interview. And if Jon's lawyers call any of the producers of the shows from her latest media tour to testify, tomorrow may very well be her latest appearance on non-TLC shows. She's not worth the trouble as she brings nothing new or interesting to the table, wants to cry and dab her eyes, and is still hung up on the divorce.
Wasn't there a big outcry several years ago when one of the Kardashian famewhores appeared on the Today Show on the anniversary of 9-11? and said or did something that was very disrespectful? Various news sources reported the Today Show lost a lot of viewers that day due to people turning the channel. Wonder if anyone has ever complied the number of viewers lost when Kate appears on various non-TLC shows.
The good thing about Kate's continued determination to film her show and appear on non-TLC shows is that there will be plenty of documentation for the upcoming custody hearing, for future mental health professionals to study, and for the kids to use when the sue to obtain their earnings, damages, etc.
According to Celeb Dirty Laundry, she blames Jon and the media for her panic attacks and begs Jon to stop dishing dirt.
Personally, I think her low ratings are the cause of her "panic attacks".
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Kate is a twit said... 6
Thanks for clarifying. I wonder what took them so long to air this. I guess having too many interviews of her all saying the same thing on the same day might look a little too much like what it is: Bullshit.
Turn out the lights said... 13
I don't follow this mess as closely as some, but since all the interviews were done on 11/18, is this BEFORE Jon filed for custody?
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It is nearly two months AFTER he filed for custody, if People can be believed on a factual matter.
http://people.com/celebrity/jon-gosselin-sues-kate-for-primary-custody/
Sad but true said... 17
Turn out the lights said... 13
I don't follow this mess as closely as some, but since all the interviews were done on 11/18, is this BEFORE Jon filed for custody?
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It is nearly two months AFTER he filed for custody, if People can be believed on a factual matter.
http://people.com/celebrity/jon-gosselin-sues-kate-for-primary-custody/
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If true, she is burnt toast. But the mental illness is fascinating to see progress in HD. . . although my heart aches for the kids who deal with it everyday.
Regarding the gag order--Kate, herself, first mentioned it during her appearance on GMA(taped Nov. 18) when she was asked about Jon saying that he didn't know where Collin was.
She said that she was "in accordance with court orders to not speak about the care and custody of their children in detail."
Jon's attorney gave a statement on Nov.21, the day the interviews aired and confirmed the court order.
"In a statement to Us Weekly, Jon’s lawyer confirmed the court order and then briefly elaborated on the situation.
"Jon is bound by the court order. Needless to say, certain comments and statements that are being made are very upsetting to Jon, but given his obligation to the court order, there is not much he can do right now,” his lawyer Kristen Doleva-Lecher told Us, adding that Jon, 39, is also "very upset by certain statements made to the press" and that he feels "the whole story is not being told."
If she was under court order when she gave those interviews, why did she talk about the care and custody of her children? Just because she didn't go into detail doesn't mean that she wasn't in violation of that order.
Re the gag order, after Kate did GMA on 11/21, Jon's lawyer made some comments and mentioned it (etonline has this story, dtd 11/21). Since GMA was aired on a Monday before her "premiere" on 11/22, it stands to reason the gag order has to have been in place before Kate went all over the talk shows running her mouth (which looks to have been Friday of the previous week).
The Celeb Dirty Laundry article calls Kate a former reality tv star, and that she is doing whatever it takes to land a reality tv show. Do they know something we don't know? It also quotes "insiders" as saying she'll never go back to nursing. Hmmm...
http://people.com/celebrity/jon-gosselin-sues-kate-for-primary-custody/
That People article is an old article from 2010. It references Kate being on DWTS. There were rumors then that Jon was going to sue Kate for custody due to her being away so much during her stint on the show. In that article there's a link to a related article about Kate's response to Jon. Again it mentions DWTS and lists Kate's age as 35.
http://people.com/celebrity/kate-gosselin-shoots-back-says-she-will-provide-for-kids/?preview_id=2509691
Also the last paragraph states:
"Get a sneak peek of this week’s issue – Justin Bieber’s world, Jennifer Hudson’s new body, and Maksim Chmerkovskiy and Erin Andrews’s relationship – which is on newsstands Friday".
Maks and Erin were dancing partners the same season that Kate appeared.
Both articles were dated 9/23/16, but they actually talk about something that happened in April 2010.
I don't know why they dated those articles with a more current date. Hmm, maybe because People is a tabloid magazine looking to get hits?
BTW, the current custody case was reported by InTouch on Nov. 30, 2016.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-custody-kate-gosselin-119972
Panic attacks? Please! Like those fake histrionics she does on her show? Are those supposed to be "evidence" that she has panic attacks? Anxiety is a real disorder I just don't believe she has it.
You bet, so cry me a river, Kate. She's trying to garner sympathy and play the victim, while Collin is God knows where (could be great, could be awful, no one knows) and his OWN FATHER is kept in the dark.
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She MIGHT have come off the hero if she stopped filming and instead use this time to do a media tour promoting and supporting parents of kids with special needs. She MIGHT of come off the hero if she put him first and agreed to stop filming. Then, when he comes home, film a special. She would have had to be patient and wait this out longer, but it would have paid off.
Her stubbornness has done her in. She wanted to film come hell or high water, refusing to think big picture how this could hurt her more long term by pushing her luck. The public reacted stronger than they ever have. And you can't say the public is over multiples or other oddities, because the public happily watches Outdaughtered and Little People. It's HER they hate.
Can someone post a link to the celeb dirty laundry article? I know google is my friend but I'm on an iPhone right now so it's hard on the small screen. Thanks.
If she really is having "panic attacks" that must be really frightening for the kids to witness. It's probably more along the lines of (grape induced) screaming tirades against Jon and anyone else she feels has wronged her.
Were the gag orders and custody issue addressed together? If they weren't , it sounds like Kate did these interviews on 11/18 and Jon filed custody papers afterwards??
Kate is on record in print and film bad mouthing Jon.
This is going to be interesting.
Kate is a twit said... 160
From the Page Six article:
“I mess up, yet it’s out of love for my kids that I say, whooo, I messed up. I need to get better at that,” Gosselin confesses to Dr. Oz. “I mean, my life is my kids and there just wouldn’t be Kate Gosselin if it wasn’t for my kids. Everything I do for them. I mean, being on TV is not easy. Having tabloids written about you constantly is not easy.”
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Tabloids write about her constantly??!! Someone has a distorted view of herself.
I just read the page 6 interview. I swear she just babbles such nonsense. Most of the sentences make no sense. TFW said, “I could live my whole life without them,” the 41-year-old mom shares on Thursday’s episode of “The Dr. Oz. Show.” “I’m a very visual person so your emotional and psychological energy, like, I do actually, picture it as like a barrel of energy, this stuff just eats — it drags you down. This is such drivel!
RIP Alan Thicke you were/are a great actor.
Well, I'm going to go ahead and post a list of the advertisers from last night's show and the number of times their ad aired. Please feel free to scroll past if it does not interest you, but I find it fascinating. We've often talked about how TFMJG has gotten a pass on many issues due to the fact that she has a lot of children, is white, a 'typical' suburban mom, is able to control the narrative in that whatever allegations of abuse have been proven so far are not widely known, etc. If not for these factors, I believe the advertisers would be up in arms as they were during the Duggar fiasco. I also believe TLC is playing fast & loose re: when and on which programs they will air. It is not good business for an advertiser to buy a block of ads without giving some specifics re: when and on which program they will air. Why air a bunch of your ads on a program with declining ratings when a better choice might be Outdaughtered or LPBW?
So here goes. The ads are listed in order by the number of times they were shown during last night's Kate + 8. Remember, the Toys-R-Us ad was shown 4 times during last week's show.
Sister Wives (4)
Paranormal Lockdown (3)
Walmart (3)
Outdaughtered (2)
Too Close To Home (2)
Hunt's (2)
Toyota (2)
Emergen-C (2)
Pistachios (2)
Home Instead (2)
TJ Maxx (2)
Merci Chocolates (2)
Pillsbury (2)
Subaru (2)
Robitussin (2)
Famous Footwear (1)
Delsym (1)
Cortizone-10 (1)
Cy Financial (1)
Crayola (1)
Kate + 8 (1)
Sing (1)
LPBW (1)
Progresso (1)
Shutterfly (1)
Ritz (1)
Cuisinart (1)
Halos (1)
Charmin (1)
BearPaw (1)
SNHU. edu (1)
Fox--The Mick (1)
Cancer Tx. Center of America (1)
Hy-Vee Shootout (1)
NJGal51 said... 25
Can someone post a link to the celeb dirty laundry article? I know google is my friend but I'm on an iPhone right now so it's hard on the small screen. Thanks.
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2016/kate-gosselin-health-crisis-blames-jon-gosselin-and-the-media-for-her-panic-attacks-begs-him-to-stop-dishing-dirt/
Also, why is she so hung up on showing her kids she overcomes her fears?
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Completely overblown mantra of the new age generation. As long as your fear is reasonable and doesn't cripple your life, move on from it. A fear of heights makes sense, because falling is dangerous. There is nothing about your life that is curtailed because you just don't want to skydive. You are not teaching your kids "life lessons" by jumping out of a plane. If kids really can't do something very important to life out of fear, like say, speaking to others they don't know, therapy is the far more appropriate course rather than have them watch mommy bungee jump.
I was thinking about the ratings,since Milo suppose to have an eye surgery.I wonder if Milo will blame her eye doctor for the lower viewers.Guess cause she couldn't spread the gospel of Kate's show.No one knew about it.
The way she needs to be praised constantly by her kids on how wonderful she is and comforted by them when she's wigging out facing her fears is a huge red flag to her psychosis. I can only imagine what she requires from these kids with panic attacks. We can only hope (sadly) that it's at fever pitch so the kids will sing like birds to the judge ...their only chance to get the hell out of dodge and escape lord of the flies
Kate is a twit said... 22
Oops! How'd that happen? Thanks for catching that. But it's very odd, if you go to that link, the story says "Updated September 23, 2016." Weird.
But if the gag order was in place as of 11/21, doesn't that mean he would already have filed his suit prior to that date? That was my point, she went on these shows and flapped her gums despite an order not to.
Thanks Local. TFW really is a piece of work. Let's see, her show hadn't yet aired when the GMA interview was on, correct? Now that people have seen her show WITHOUT Collin the blowback might be epic. People just don't believe the dab, dab dab, cry, cry, cry persona because she's shown how callous she really is.
I did a search on FB for post about "Kate Gosselin" and look what I found. Seems like since Kate has returned to TV, someone is using it to his advantage to advertise his plastic surgery practice.
https://www.facebook.com/DrLawrenceGlassman/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf
Kate better not find out, she'll want a cut of the income from his practice.
The Celeb Dirty Laundry piece is kind of interesting. Of course, we knew she'd never go back to nursing. But she's STILL insisting that she needs reality TV money to raise the kids? If what she and Jon have said over the years about their trusts is true, that's just nonsense. Either she's spending a lot more than she's making (ludicrous given her cheapness) or the money's not staying in the household. Hmm, where could it be going? I wouldn't be surprised if half her panic is at the thought of a judge perhaps auditing her spending or appointing a guardian for the kids who will do so.
And this question at the end of the piece is surely rhetorical: "So does this mean that Kate is headed towards a meltdown?" Have you watched her TV show lately? I'm wondering if she's about to launch a campaign to blame all of this so-called "stress" from Jon for her banshee behavior. And that might actually have worked had she not been acting that way pretty much continuously in every freakin' episode, for which there is masses of video evidence.
Another reason I believe the custody case was filed before her 11/18 publicity tour is that Jon was able to see his kids on Thanksgiving. That might have been a last-minute decision, but I don't think it would have happened were his case not already in court.
Ugh I have yet to watch the new season of K8 and so far I don't plan on it.
Swimgirl (#28), yeah, that "barrel of energy" analogy was completely lost on me, too.
In psychology terms, I think the correct expression for what she was doing was
"talking out of her a**."
And thinking the tabloids are writing about her constantly? Bless her heart, I guess those panic attacks make her think it's 2009, and Chris the Pap is out there catching every gas station fill-up. Those days will never be back for her.
Kate is a twit said... 37
Now isn't that interesting. She had her tummy tuck in 2008, right? But he's using a photo from a 2010 People cover and calling it her "body transformation." That tells me she went back and had him do her flotation devices, too.
http://toofab.com/2016/12/14/kate-gosselin-slams-ex-jon-gosselin-dr-oz/
Ugh.....this drivel! The lies (her eyes dart everywhere), and she cannot speak a complete sentence. The "like", "um's", and "uh's" are annoying. Plus does she do it alone or not? SHE MAKES NO SENSE!
"On adjusting her life after her divorce:
I'm down a parent so I'm really outnumbered now. I have to be kind of the mom and the dad and that's hard. It's been double duty and there's nobody to back me up so that's been--it's really challenging, but it's not something--I mean, I have more than the average number of kids, but it's not something that I'm doing alone. I mean, I've found that you're suddenly tuned into--there's so many single parents out there, single moms, single dads and we're all just kind of like trying to pick up the pieces together. It's hard."
Also- why is she portraying herself as a victim, when all of her complaints are based on her choices?!?
Hey, chef summer, good to see you!
Some more sneak peeks of the Dr. Oz interview. Luckily, the article has transcripts to go along with the video clips, so you don't have to listen to her.
http://toofab.com/2016/12/14/kate-gosselin-slams-ex-jon-gosselin-dr-oz/
This whole interview should be labeled "The Kate Gosselin Self-Pity Party".
From the article:
On how the media has scrutinized her motherhood:
I don't know why [I get media attention for everything I do]. I'm just a mom, like, all the moms everywhere. We're just doing our best and I'm really passionate about what I do and really loud about it, but, I mean, moms don't get enough credit. It's a stinking hard job. I mean, everything that we do we're putting the next generation out there. I don't take that lightly. I mess up a lot. But, I mean, I'm doing my best and I think that's the important thing to stop beating ourselves up and just to keep getting up and doing your best.
On adjusting her life after her divorce:.
I'm down a parent so I'm really outnumbered now. I have to be kind of the mom and the dad and that's hard. It's been double duty and there's nobody to back me up so that's been--it's really challenging, but it's not something--I mean, I have more than the average number of kids, but it's not something that I'm doing alone. I mean, I've found that you're suddenly tuned into--there's so many single parents out there, single moms, single dads and we're all just kind of like trying to pick up the pieces together. It's hard.
On how being a single parent shaped her children:
I think the good is the fact that we've kind of really pulled tighter. They're a lot more empathetic, whether you see it really or not. Like I only have so much energy. I only have so much time. Sometimes I have to choose, you know, which sports event or which program to go to. They are empathetic to there's just one of you. We pull together. They help me, clean up the kitchen and there's--that's really been the good. The bad is, unfortunately, they feel torn, a lot between parents and that really sucks.
So she's just a "mom like all moms everywhere"? Hmm, I don't see "moms everywhere" having a reality TV show to support themselves.
She's "down a parent, so she's really outnumbered NOW?
She's been divorced for 7 years. She's acting like the divorce happened yesterday.
They feel "torn a lot between parents"? And who's fault is that Kate? Again, it's been 7 years since the divorce.
Kate seems like she entered a time warp and transported herself back to 2009. Those were all the same talking points she used back then.
Original T said... 43
Did you transcribe that or did toofab? Classic K8! She couldn't get out a simple declarative sentence to save her life.
Original T said... 44
Exactly! This is the one thing I've never been able to understand: Where K8 is right now is where K8 consciously chose to be. She can't blame it on Jon and his "running around," because she has even publicly admitted the marriage was OVER by then---even though she never corrects her fans, who typically cite Jon's behavior as why Kate had to divorce him. And the list of similar disjunctions is endless.
Sad but true said... 42
Kate is a twit said... 37
Now isn't that interesting. She had her tummy tuck in 2008, right? But he's using a photo from a 2010 People cover and calling it her "body transformation." That tells me she went back and had him do her flotation devices, too
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The tummy tuck episode aired in January 2007, so she had the surgery sometime in 2006.
I like how he used the obviously photo-shopped People cover.
I really hope the judge takes a look at this Oz interview. Just this sentence: "I'm down a parent so I'm really outnumbered now." Jon is NOT dead! And as far as any of us is aware, he has never once refused to take his kids for visitation. He's even asked for MORE time. So WTF are you even talking about, K8? She has made these lies a part of her "story" and she's just never going to give them up, no matter how many times the truth gets shoved in her face.
Nov. 22 - 890,000
Nov. 30 - 860,000
Dec. 6 - 736,000
Dec. 13 - 622,000
She lost 30% of her viewership is in just 3 episodes. Man she must be panicking. Especially when the Roloffs are basicallay killing it.
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What were the ratings when the show was cancelled the last time?
Locals -- ready for the four degrees "real feel" tomorrow? Ugh. I haven't seen the stray cat recently, and with the cold weather, I'm concerned.
Jon's down a parent too but he never says so because that's a tool thing to say. The end.
What a DRAG it is to be a mom to so many kids! Poor outnumbered TFW! Like she said years ago, if she had it to do all over again, she wouldn't. She's like Eeyore with blonde extensions.
GollyGee said... 45
Hey, chef summer, good to see you!
:-).
Kate is such a freak.
All most 8yrs later after she left Jon you'd think she'd stop talking about him.
All she has is the Jon card and the I do it all alone card.-(boring).
She's "down a parent, so she's really outnumbered NOW?
She's been divorced for 7 years. She's acting like the divorce happened yesterday.
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Let's see the topics that she always talks about.
1.Jon being a deadbeat.
2.How she does it all alone.
3.Me.Me.Me.Me-(dating or a new show)
4.Jon sucks.
5.I have count em' 8 eight.-(which leads to me me me)
6.Jon sucks...(the kids suck in a sly way)
7. Jon sucks.
8. Watch our boring show while I make it's all about me.
It's the same thing every times she opens her open lips.
So, if I'm getting the gist between the 'ums' and 'like's, being on tv is really hard but Kate's down a parent and she's doing it all for her children.
Is that right?
Kate is suffering through fame and being on tv for the sake of her kids?
Hmm...I get the sense maybe Kate has an inkling the show is over, so she's back to peddling her "Pity me" routine.
Outnumbered.
Piecing and patching.
Jon's a deadbeat.
I'm all alone.
Over In TFW's County said... 50
I would love to have a real feel of 4. We have -18 real feel right now at 10pm cst. Actual temp -1.
I would love to have a real feel of 4. We have -18 real feel right now at 10pm cst. Actual temp -1.
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Ouch. We did the sub-zero temps last winter. Not fun. Christmas Day is forecast to be in the mid 50s. It just can't make up its mind what it wants to do!
Hmm...I get the sense maybe Kate has an inkling the show is over, so she's back to peddling her "Pity me" routine.
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It ain't over until we see videos of fans in the Walmart parking lot.
http://people.com/tv/kate-gosselin-cant-stop-screaming-tubing-late-kate-plus-8/
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So interesting to watch Cara in the basement with Mady, saying NOTHING. Just ersatz casually picking lint off her pants and staring with this "look" of calm on the surface, with seething underneath.
I really hope the judge takes a look at this Oz interview.
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She is not smart enough to know when to shut the heck up, especially when there is a custody issue. She always manages to dig herself into that hole just a little bit deeper. My gosh, doesn't she have anyone who will advise her to zip her mouth? Where is her attorney?
What were the ratings when the show was cancelled the last time?
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Here's where you can find the ratings for the shows that aired starting in July 2010 and ending with the first RV episode in August 2011.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/search/label/Ratings
In July 2010, they started out with 2.229 million viewers. From there the ratings started dropping averaging roughly between 1.2 to 1.4 million.
The big drop came with the New Zealand episode in April 2011. That show had .874 million. The episode after that, Philly Fun had .681 million.
The rest of the 2011 season averaged just about 1 million viewers, except for the 2nd RV episode(1.685 million viewers) and the finale which received the highest rating of the season starting in April 2011. That got 2.1 million viewers.
I'm sure her attorney advised her to shut her pie hole but clients sometimes don't listen. It's just advice they can do what they want. She is a client nightmare, one of those who always thinks they know so much better than an attorney who has been through who knows how many family law cases and knows how to win if the client would just listen and follow instructions. What a pain she probably is.
Tucker's Mom said... 57
Hmm...I get the sense maybe Kate has an inkling the show is over, so she's back to peddling her "Pity me" routine.
Outnumbered.
Piecing and patching.
Jon's a deadbeat.
I'm all alone.
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After 10+ years on TV you'd think she'd have something new to talk about.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59
I'm sure her attorney advised her to shut her pie hole but clients sometimes don't listen.
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Um remember Kate is always right. So if she wants to talk she going to talk.
This comment from another site is so true:
"Kate Gosselin's math lesson from last night -
2 puppies = one son. The family is whole again.
Absolutely disgusting."
I wonder what she will do when the children are old enough to reason and realize what she did to their childhood and relationship with their father and relatives...............
Oh, I imagine they will be about 50 years old before they understand the gaslighting & narcissistic personality of their mother. It takes a really long time to thoroughly process all of that information & to understand the impact it has had on your own life & that of your own children... Even then, only if you are introspective enough to pursue it...
Lots of therapy in their future, I imagine..
My prediction is that the Gosselins will become a hot psych class for college students. Reality TV and the irreparable damage done to these children and others like them.
How do you like them apples, Kate??
Dr Oz isn't going to challenge Kate or get real answers out of her. He's a fame whore, too. Kate still seems surprised that Jon isn't doing exactly what she wants him to do. Somebody please buy her a dictionary. Divorce means you are not married anymore. On one hand, many divorced women would love to have her resources of hired help and money and time. On the other hand, many divorced women would not want to be alone like her with no family and friends.
Unfortunately, I don't think anything will change. The judge likes her, TLC likes her. Kate can go on Dr Oz and imply that Jon eats children for breakfast and enough fans will love her for how great a mother she is. Kate is a saint because she managed to gestate babies in her uterus; Jon is the devil because he wore ugly tshirts. Neither parent is a saint but I think they would have had a much better chance to be decent parents without a tv show.
It's Collin who did her in. Like I've said she really called this one wrong. She thought all the moms out there with special needs kids would relate to her. Instead, they are shunning her, thinking to themselves I never could send my kid away! And even if I did I would never act like she did, like she simply sent the family station wagon away for repairs, we'll miss it while it's gone. The one thing she never bargained for are that a lot of fans are actually in her shoes, and have chosen a very different mile than she did. Those darn shoes finally caught up.
Oh, boo-f'ing-hoo. Another "set the record straight" tour? Ugh - don't watch Dr. Oz, and don't intend to start. Oh yes - nothing is off limits - but no one ever challenges her. Same shit, different day.
But the ratings plummeting is nice to see - death by a thousand cuts. Seems appropriate.
And her mentioning her "health"? Really? Is that the angle you needed to get your gaping maw of a fame hole on the Dr. Oz show? She really is desperate.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59
I'm sure her attorney advised her to shut her pie hole but clients sometimes don't listen. It's just advice they can do what they want. She is a client nightmare, one of those who always thinks they know so much better than an attorney who has been through who knows how many family law cases and knows how to win if the client would just listen and follow instructions. What a pain she probably is.
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Just think. Julie May Carson is on an island somewhere, sitting on the pile of cash she made with TFW, getting waited on hand and foot by tanned cabana boys, sipping Mimosa's, and chomping on chocolate covered organic strawberries, giggling that she doesn't have to deal with her former client, Shirt Show (Cat. 5) TFW!
Snark!
Admin, you said she could of been the hero in this.
You are right. If she would of came out and said, I am stopping filming. We are having a family crisis. Collin has special needs and the filming is really preventing me from all my attention to Collin and his needs.
I would appreciate privacy and I will update as soon as I can.
Then she could of had a special and they could of advertised it that Collin was coming back and there is no telling how many millions of viewers they would of had. People would of been rallying for her and Collin and the kids.
She could of had Collin in the garage like Shoka and surprised the kids. Talk about a tear jerker.
Oh, yes. She WAY UNDERESTIMATED people not understanding Collin not being at his birthday party, sending him away and filming with out him, the People cover without him, preventing Jon from seeing him and GLOATING like a fat sow on tv that all the world doesn't know where he is, and that includes HIS LOVING!
This BACKBLOW is accelerating and it is going to get even worse when the trial starts and people start testifying against her.
Wonder if Steve testifies against her, will she kick him to the curb? He won't know how to help her anymore?
With any luck, TFW could be doing worse than Crazy Ex-Girlfriend with next week's episode. And, compared to TFW, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is way more entertaining.
I like how he used the obviously photo-shopped People cover.
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Wasn't the one with the missing belly button?
Sideline Observer (#76), hey, there's an untapped nickname for The Former Mrs.
Jon Gosselin: "Crazy Ex-Wife." When you haven't moved on after 7 years, and actually take to the airwaves to let the world know,
I think you've officially earned that term.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 71
It's Collin who did her in. Like I've said she really called this one wrong. She thought all the moms out there with special needs kids would relate to her.
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I think he is being treated for anger/mental health issues. She tried to couch that as "special needs". Special needs to me means Autism spectrum, intellectual disabilities, cerebral palsy, etc. Perhaps she would have fared better if she were honest as to why he is away. It still leaves the fact that she doesn't appear to give a rat's azz that he isn't there though
Kate's having panic/anxiety attacks because her house of cards is falling in around her. Colin's gone, public is pissed about that, her ratings are falling dramatically and Jon is suing her.
One thing I will say about "Outdaughtered" I'm not a faithful watcher but I've seen a few episodes here and there. The mom seems to be way more hands on with her kids. They show her pushing them on the swing, playing with them, rolling around on the floor. Their play area is right off the kitchen so she's got her eyes on them all the time, unlike Kate who's favorite line was "Get down in the basement!" so she could stay upstairs away from them. I've never heard Danielle utter "Make a meal, clean up a meal, make a meal, clean up a meal" Danielle has plenty of help but she at least owns it and acknowledges it.
To clarify: It's nobody's business where C is or why. BUt if she's going to make it public, she should have been honest about it. Best would have been to close up shop and put all that energy into helping C.
Hasn't she professed for years she doesn't care what people think? And now, it has been causing her health issues? Talk about a hypocrite.
Jbranck1980
" hope TFW screws up big time with the interview and does or says something to cause the judge to weigh in really heavily against her."
She already did, when she said that "being on tv is hard work". That statement belies the fantasy of the kids not even knowing the cameras are there because, you know, they "just run in and out of the frames".
Does TFW ever give a moment's thought to the burden she places on her children by sharing her suffering with them so intimately? And then going on TV and sharing it with the world? She talked about their empathy. Why must they know how hard things are for her? Her focus should be on them -- their needs, wants, struggles and fears. She can talk a blue streak about them being the only thing that matters in her life. But it rings hollow when she contradicts it the next second with yet another narcissistic comment. She is a horrible mother.
The whole panic attack thing might be fabricated to get her on the show. It almost sounds like a Lucy Ricardo hare-brained scheme. "Wait, Dr. Oz, I can only be on your TV show if I have a medical problem? Ummm, well, like, ummm...I do have one! It's, ummm, well, like...panic attacks! Like literally! See You Next Thursday!"
http://toofab.com/2016/12/14/kate-gosselin-slams-ex-jon-gosselin-dr-oz/
The war of words between Kate Gosselin and ex-husband Jon Gosselin rages on.
The "Kate Plus 8" star will appear on Thursday's "The Dr. Oz Show" to discuss everything from the couple's bitter divorce to child abuse allegations -- but a few sneak peek clips give us a taste of the drama to come.
The duo have been mudslinging each other in the press all year, after Jon kicked off 2016 by revealing he hadn't spoken to one of his kids in over a year. Kate later revealed that their son Colin was enrolled at a live-in facility to deal with his "special needs," as daughter Mady said Jon "doesn't even know us."
They want a dad who's there for them. If I'm gonna be really honest, there was kind of the old Jon and the new Jon and none of us can quite understand, like, what happened there. So we struggled together. I mean, they coined it years ago, old daddy and new daddy. That's understandable, but, like, hard to kind of digest for all of us.
I'm down a parent so I'm really outnumbered now. I have to be kind of the mom and the dad and that's hard. It's been double duty and there's nobody to back me up so that's been--it's really challenging, but it's not something--I mean, I have more than the average number of kids, but it's not something that I'm doing alone. I mean, I've found that you're suddenly tuned into--there's so many single parents out there, single moms, single dads and we're all just kind of like trying to pick up the pieces together. It's hard.
I don't know why [I get media attention for everything I do]. I'm just a mom, like, all the moms everywhere. We're just doing our best and I'm really passionate about what I do and really loud about it, but, I mean, moms don't get enough credit. It's a stinking hard job. I mean, everything that we do we're putting the next generation out there. I don't take that lightly. I mess up a lot. But, I mean, I'm doing my best and I think that's the important thing to stop beating ourselves up and just to keep getting up and doing your best.
I think the good is the fact that we've kind of really pulled tighter. They're a lot more empathetic, whether you see it really or not. Like I only have so much energy. I only have so much time. Sometimes I have to choose, you know, which sports event or which program to go to. They are empathetic to there's just one of you. We pull together. They help me, clean up the kitchen and there's--that's really been the good. The bad is, unfortunately, they feel torn, a lot between parents and that really sucks.
Over In TFW's County said... 59
I would love to have a real feel of 4. We have -18 real feel right now at 10pm cst. Actual temp -1.
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Ouch. We did the sub-zero temps last winter. Not fun. Christmas Day is forecast to be in the mid 50s. It just can't make up its mind what it wants to do!
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Last Christmas in PA (and throughout the NE), it was warm and foggy as pea soup! Just nasty.
I'd rather have sunny and cold!
Over In TFW's County said... 60
Hmm...I get the sense maybe Kate has an inkling the show is over, so she's back to peddling her "Pity me" routine.
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It ain't over until we see videos of fans in the Walmart parking lot.
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And if that crazy sheep isn't going to parade around in the Walmart parking lot, I'll volunteer.
With bells on!
“Having an ex-husband who doesn’t see the value in uplifting his children and his family, whether he chooses to be on the show or not, is extremely difficult,” she adds.
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Ah, there it is. This all about filming. Period.
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She outed herself when she said, whether he wants to be on the show or not.
The comment was all about filming. Jon is not uplifting because Jon doesn't want to film. No matter god knows how many people experts and layman who have said her kids should stop filming. Jon hasn't wanted to be on the show for seven years. Isn't it time to move on? Good grief. She won! She can film to her heart's content and has been. What does Jon uplifting this or not have to do with anything, she has what she wants.
I've said it before, she will never, ever forgive him for stopping the show for what, all of six months? She wants those six months of paychecks. He owes her. And she would get back together with him in a flipping heartbeat if it meant better ratings.
Nicky said... 72
Oh, boo-f'ing-hoo. Another "set the record straight" tour? Ugh - don't watch Dr. Oz, and don't intend to start. Oh yes - nothing is off limits - but no one ever challenges her. Same shit, different day.
But the ratings plummeting is nice to see - death by a thousand cuts. Seems appropriate.
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TFW thinks she is always right, and everything is someone else's fault. This has been going on for years. At some point you would think she would take a look at herself and get professional help. But she won't because she is, in my opinion, a BiPolar Narcissist, who is always right.
I hate the way she treats the boys like second class citizens.
Kate is a twit said... 63
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Thank you for the synopsis of ratings. Kate had a lot of steam back in 2010. I can't believe TLC is still filming seasons.
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I don't know why [I get media attention for everything I do]. I'm just a mom, like, all the moms everywhere. We're just doing our best and I'm really passionate about what I do and really loud about it, but, I mean, moms don't get enough credit. It's a stinking hard job. I mean, everything that we do we're putting the next generation out there. I don't take that lightly. I mess up a lot. But, I mean, I'm doing my best and I think that's the important thing to stop beating ourselves up and just to keep getting up and doing your best.
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People are CALLING YOU OUT dumba$$. And have been since day ONE.
You Feed the fire as far as calling Jon out on whatever offenses you've fabricated in that brain of yours, but DO NOT put a microscope on YOUR abuses. And NO! You are NOT a mom like everyone else. YOU know it, WE know it, your KIDS know it. Deep down, way way down there in that black charred soul of yours, you KNOW IT. Just keep burying it, you'll never ever face your issues, you just keep convincing yourself it's the world against you.
Kate is a twit said... 63
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I think with Kate's blabbering on Dr. Oz, it crystalized for me, the notion that Kate really does view her children as possessions. (no to Vanessa!).
If they are taken away, or go away, or are legally anything but 100% hers, I think she'd have a nervous breakdown.
If, big if, she's having actual panic attacks, I think it might be because the house of cards is finally coming down.
Jeanne said... 70
Dr Oz isn't going to challenge Kate or get real answers out of her. He's a fame whore, too
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No, he's not. As a matter of professional decorum, you don't invite a guest on your show to tear them a new one. You have a pre-approved agenda and talking points/questions, and you go out on stage and put on your dog and pony show.
My hope is that Dr. Oz brings concerns to the surface and conducts the interview in a way that allows the viewers to make up their own mind- IOW, not a total ass-kissing fest.
Divorce means you are not married anymore. On one hand, many divorced women would love to have her resources of hired help and money and time. On the other hand, many divorced women would not want to be alone like her with no family and friends.
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I'd venture to say most divorced women have to work, full time, outside the home. They cannot spend nearly enough time with their children as they would like if they had a partner to share in everything. That has to be a huge turn off for all those normal divorced women to see someone whining so much when she is set up so much better than they are. And what does she do with her luck? Squanders it.
Siobhan R @SiobhanR111 5m5 minutes ago
Watching @Kateplusmy8 on @DrOz right now. Very interesting interview.
One of K8's diehards. What could be so interesting? You've heard it ALL before.
You'r not going to get any host to club Kate over the head with the dummy stick. It's not like Dr. Phil drubbing his mediocre guests.
Kate is considered a celeb, and gets special treatment.
No one is going to take the gloves off.
It's sickening. It's not like what Kate does affects only Kate. She's driving her family into the ground.
No, he's not. As a matter of professional decorum, you don't invite a guest on your show to tear them a new one. You have a pre-approved agenda and talking points/questions, and you go out on stage and put on your dog and pony show.
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Absolutely. Can Billy Bush have his job back now? Because he was doing exactly that, maintaining professional decorum so guests would keep coming back over and over.
I don't care that Oz won't question her, who cares. She is doing just fine all on her own. Let her talk. Give her a platform. It's actually the best thing he could do is just let her speak. She'll just lie even more if questioned so what's the point.
Dr. Mehmet OzVerified account @DrOz 1m1 minute ago
Today, @Kateplusmy8 is here to discuss her rise to reality TV fame and being a mom to 8 kids in their teens: http://bit.ly/2hAhAbP
Oh, so she's not going to throw her children's father under the bus? Good to know. And it's not "today," it's a freakin' MONTH ago.
The Nov 12th filming of the interviews is more revealing for another reason. Doesn't it make the most sense to do the post-interviews as soon as possible so things are fresh, especially with kids? They had all this footage in the can for months and months, and during that whole time the show got pushed back and back. Makes me think it really is by the skin of her teeth they are even airing these, and that the decision to air was a very last minute requiring a last minute filming of interviews to make the episodes complete. If it was contemplated maybe they WON'T air the footage, it makes no sense to spend money on filming interviews.
They may have tested it and predicted these low ratings. It may have been a VERY close call whether to bother to air any of this in the first place, which means spending more money to film interviews. Ultimately they filmed them, but so late in the game it's obvious what's going on. I know, I know, we've been saying she's toast for awhile now, but this time is different.
What was she blathering about not being able to make it to every sports thing? As far as we know, only one of her 8 kids is even involved in sports. And if even if each kid had 100 activities, what do you want to bet that Jon would be there with bells on if he was invited?
TFW thinks if she continues to talk about Jon like he's still the dude in the Ed Hardy shirts, he can stay frozen that way in America's mind. The father of her children, and she tears him to shreds on national TV with a barely-hidden smirk. Still keepin' it klassy with that high road, eh, TFW?
I know, that one had me LOL. She really is a piece of work. And I'd like to know just how she is "uplifting" with regard to her kids and family---by having TLC pay for numerous lavish vacations cuz she won't? And by quite consciously making them uncomfortable with her behavior for the cameras and in public?
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She has forever failed to understand that especially with something like filming, people are going to have all different perspectives on it. Maybe Jon thinks the best way to be uplifting to his children is to give him privacy, can she imagine that?
She has never once acknowledged that she understand where the other side is coming from in terms of concerns about filming. I think she would go very far to have some acknowledgment of all the down sides, followed by mitigating explanations of how she is addressing that. To refuse to even acknowledge the harm of filming, even if you ultimately choose to keep filming, is just hardheaded. Everybody sees the downsides, even her sheeple, but her.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 96
The Nov 12th filming of the interviews is more revealing for another reason. Doesn't it make the most sense to do the post-interviews as soon as possible so things are fresh, especially with kids? They had all this footage in the can for months and months, and during that whole time the show got pushed back and back. Makes me think it really is by the skin of her teeth they are even airing these, and that the decision to air was a very last minute requiring a last minute filming of interviews to make the episodes complete. If it was contemplated maybe they WON'T air the footage, it makes no sense to spend money on filming interviews.
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K8 had to rewrite the script after everything was in the can. She had to have her version out there. I think it upset her initially that the show's air date was a moving target, but I think she finally also saw it as an opportunity to shape the story the way she wants it told. In other words, full of lies.
Agree completely with Admin. And fencing may keep your dog in, but does nothing to keep coyote packs out. Your dog could easily be trapped in his own yard..
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Yep. And one of my biggest fears about GPS is that especially for someone like Kate it can give you false security. GPS may tell you where your dog is and that's fine, but it does not prevent your dog from getting into a heap of trouble.
Dogs are forever three years old. They need to be watched. If you are leaving them alone, they need to be in enclosed spaces with any hazards removed. I do NOT believe in letting dogs roam outside out of your sight, with a few rare exceptions like working dogs who are trained specifically to do so, when they are on duty and herding and hunting.
Dogs never grow up and become 28 and old enough to stay out of trouble. They will never not find trouble, which is why you need to be a responsible pet owner and stop pawning things off on fences and GPSes.
Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver got together for their daughter's 27th birthday. For pete's sake, this man had a child with their housekeeper, and his ex is willing to keep him in her life for the sake of their children's happiness and well being.
Apparently Maria loves her kids more than she hates her ex.
K8 had to rewrite the script after everything was in the can. She had to have her version out there. I think it upset her initially that the show's air date was a moving target, but I think she finally also saw it as an opportunity to shape the story the way she wants it told. In other words, full of lies.
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Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if a part of her did the People interview about Collin because she was in panic mode about the show getting pushed back. Maybe she did it to prove to TLC there was still interest and that they should air her show. That would be really sick, but I don't put it past her.
Has TFW mentioned the Dr. Oz show yet?
"Hey guys, watch me rip my ex a new one on Dr. Oz! It's gonna be gr8! Even the dogs R going to watch - are U?!"
I wonder if she knows Jon is serious about getting shared legal custody and she knows he won't approve the kids to film. Thus not "uplifting" them in their "passion for filming".
FlimsyFlamsy said... 84
Does TFW ever give a moment's thought to the burden she places on her children by sharing her suffering with them so intimately?
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YES, THIS X 1000!! Her suffering (and I use that term loosely) is HERS to bear, either alone or to a girlfriend, other family, a doctor but NEVER your children. They didn't ask for this Kate, YOU did, so suck it up. They shouldn't be made to feel guilty for your hard life when they didn't ask to be born. Life deals you cards and they may not be the hand you'd planned on but YOU'VE got to play them, not hand them to your kids to deal with. She's educated, she's got a professional degree and she's got lots of money in the bank. Does she not realize how blessed she is? And that she could pretty much write her own ticket on whatever she wants to do in terms of a good paying, steady job? Argh!!!!!
Even if she truly is "suffering" through whatever emotional mess she thinks her life is, a good mother does not let on to her kids.
Her kids know all about this. And this is a big part of why they are parentified. The more a parent lets on to a kid how much they are struggling the more many kids start to feel like they need to help and support them somehow much like a parent would a struggling child. I don't need tabloids to tell me about her, she says it all herself!
Neither parent is a saint but I think they would have had a much better chance to be decent parents without a tv show.
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I agree, mostly from the standpoint that they both wouldn't have been drunk with power from being a "stah" on reality tv.
Kate cut Jon out like a coyote chewing it's leg off to get out of a trap. She thought she was better off without him, didn't need him and forged on, only barely tolerating his existence.
That would never have been possible had they remained 2 mediocre people who needed to pull together to make things work post divorce.
kris said... 109
Great comment. Nothing will ever be enough for her. "More" is the focal point of her existence.
One thing I will say about "Outdaughtered" I'm not a faithful watcher but I've seen a few episodes here and there. The mom seems to be way more hands on with her kids
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It really is a big leg up in life when your mother doesn't say, "I just can't. There are too many of you. Why even try".
I think we are seeing the manifestations of not bonding and getting enough nurturing from Mommy.
Danielle has plenty of help but she at least owns it and acknowledges it.
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As long as she doesn't turn around and deny it years later, when she's plugging her "Super Mom, doing it all alone" image.
Tucker's Mom, you're right, time will tell if Danielle's story changes. Next weeks preview showed her 'scolding' her husband for buying a drone to play around with when 'We've got 6 college educations to pay for! You need to be more responsible'. In comes the financial planner. *eye-roll* I do see some shades of Kate with her like buying a house they can't afford without TLC's help, so we'll see how it plays out.
And I totally agree with your statement that we are seeing the manifestations of not bonding and getting enough nurturing from Mommy. Absolutely!
Kris (#115), did Papa Buzz use a coupon for his drone purchase? If not, did Mama Buzz threaten to shoot him?
TBH the only reason why Kate is saying she having health issues is because Collin is having them...Kate is always in competition with her kids.
So I agree she mental.But imo it's narcissism and selfishness.
Poor Collin can't have all the attention Kate needs the attention to.
FlimsyFlamsy...Probably! lol
Chef (#117), in fact, when she announced C's situation, she was quick to tell the world it was hard on HER, too. He got about a nanosecond of individual attention, and then the story became about her. As usual.
Of course it's none of out business on where Collin is. However Kate won't shut up about it so yeah.
It's like having your curtains open to your house and expecting people not to look inside..If you don't want ppl to look inside close the curtains.
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Thanks for the list of advertisers. Those do not look like big-bucks ads. The big ones from last week are gone. No doubt those companies objected. Good for them. It's been said for a couple years now that TLC has problems getting advertisers for K+8. Let's hope that those problems, along with the backlash over Collin and the low ratings, will spell the end for this craptastic show.
What is wrong with TLC with regards to handling its talent? They hang on until it's too late to separate themselves from the bad press, then have to do damage control. There was talk for years about Josh Duggar molesting girls, but TLC hung onto that family unto it all blew up. Kate's abuse of the kids has long been documented, but TLC still didn't let her go. And then there wasToby Willis, who was kind of creepy even if there weren't stories. TLC is becoming known for glorifying child abusers and molesters, and it's their own fault. They could have distanced themselves. They chose not to. Many of their shows used to get 2-4 million viewers per episode. Now the best they can hope for is 1-1.6 million or so they might want to spend some time thinking about why that is.
Question--is Kate Plus 8 the lowest-rated show on TLC now? If not, it has to be close.
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You're right, this time is different. The way TLC kept pushing the air dates back, and didn't confirm any of them even when Kate did is odd. Then there is the lack of promotion, and the 10pm time slot. Just before the cancellation in 2011, the show was put in that 10pm time slot. I think TLC is doing as much as they can (or, actually, as little as they can) to make sure the ratings tank. Why spend all that money filming and not promote he finished product? Don't they want to recoup their money? But low ratings means they can cancel and nobody will fight it. I am cinvinced that TLC wants this show to fail. They are done. It's just a matter of time.
People like this (from the K8 FB page) are her last hope, the ones that haven't bothered to educate themselves about the facts surrounding her journals. And she works hard on reinforcing the general ignorance of her few remaining patsys.
XXXXXX I am aware of the story that her journals were stolen by Jon and someone attempted to write a book using them..which was stopped when she sued. However I have never read any admission by her that those were really hers. And I certainly would NOT take the word of the thief who stole them. I do recall once she admitted that CPS had investigated over a spanking and nothing came of it. Whats more is that investigations are suppose to be extremely private and not public knowledge for good reason...so those who say they are in the know, are either getting illegally obtained information or just making it up.
TBH the only reason why Kate is saying she having health issues is because Collin is having them...Kate is always in competition with her kids.
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You're right. TFW has to make herself the martyr and remind everyone, including her own kids, of how burdensome her life is because she's making so many sacrifices, like being on tv, for them. (because if you haven't heard, she has sooo many kids).
I don't believe the panic attack BS. If anything, she's finally feeling some anxiety about the realities of the mess she's made of her life. The show is on it's last legs, all of the comments on her media appearances, no matter how much she tries to twist the narrative, are negative because no one believes her anymore.
While she's busy trying to rewrite history and the truth, I think she's, for once, actually concerned (as much as a narcissist is able to) about what is going to happen with the psych evals and the custody hearings. I think she's finally feeling some heat and she's figuring out her options and allies aren't as abundant as they once were.
ETOnline just posted their recap of the Dr. Oz interview.
Here's their opening line:
"Kate Gosselin is showing her more vulnerable side."
I don't think so. I think she's showing how low she will go to preserve her famewhore lifestyle.
http://www.etonline.com/news/205182_kate_gosselin_admits_she_messed_up_talks_jon_gosselin/
I don't believe for a second she gets real panic attacks. How diminishing to people who really suffer from those. True panic attacks are like heart attacks and can send you to the hospital. This is just like her OCD. She felt upset once and self diagnosed herself.
Admin (#126), I hope Dr. Oz tells her to just choose to not have panic attacks, the way she chose to not have post partum depression.
"She can film to her heart's content and has been. What does Jon uplifting this or not have to do with anything, she has what she wants."
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The 'uplifting' thing is code for: "Ok, you don't want to be on the show, but don't you dare talk down about filming because the kids will GET THE IDEA THAT THEY CAN SAY NO TO IT AS WELL".
In no way on any planet does she want the children to find out that they can say 'no' to filming because her inducements/requirements to do so are all a pack of lies.
Admin, it is diminishing to people who suffer from them. Just like her comments about Postpartum depression was diminishing to those who suffer from that. What was it she said, "I just willed myself to not get it. I don't have time for that" or something to that affect, like it's just something you can control.
Sherri said... 124
Normal parents put their children's needs be for their own. Kate can't or won't do that.
No matter what it has to be alllll about Kate. #poor8
Hmmm about pushin their air date back and back...she announced C was gone at the end of August correct? But he had been gone for months. I have a feeling the schedule kept being pushed back.l because they expected Collin hime and wanted him on the couch interviews which they filmed in september. They were going to try and bamboozle people by shuffling the episodes and then having c there and not mentioning he had been gone. Something forced their hand. Perhaps c spilling the beans on his abuse and therefore not being allowed back home? Just a theory
chefsummer #Leh said... 117
I think you're dead right on this, chef.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 126
Don't be a hater-(lol) Kate a nurse she knows what she talking about.
From the Dr. Oz clips that I've seen it's the same old story, she is wallowing in permanent victimhood. Why can't she see it is the children who are the victims of her illness.
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admin 102...She has never once acknowledged that she understand where the other side is coming from in terms of concerns about filming.
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She is not capable. She can only view the world through her "with me or against me" glasses. Every little thing is seen only in regard to how it affects her, there is no other view in katieland.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 127
Admin (#126), I hope Dr. Oz tells her to just choose to not have panic attacks, the way she chose to not have post partum depression.
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Am I sick for finding this funny?
Oh please. Kate's "panic attacks" = Kate panicking that Jon will be able to stop the filming of his children... That Jon may have a say in the children's lives... That Jon will More custody on days Kate wants to film... That the public will know Kate abused Collin.
fade2black (#135), I totally agree. Things are just black and white to her. That's why Jon is the enemy. Co-parenting isn't remotely within her realm of understanding.
Why can't she see it is the children who are the victims of her illness.
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If she did see this.
Kate would have to admit-(to herself)that she's a horrible mother & person/parental alienator.
Her narcissism/ego won't let her do this.
Ive suffered from panic attacks for several years. The first one was terrifying, I thought I was having a heart attack ( blood pressure was 215/185). I landed in the ER.
Absolutely terrifying!
I think the show is done- TLC has a new family of cute babies to exploit (wonder if their house has special lights installed for filming? Barf)
It's like watching a show centered around teenagers-- eventually those kids have to graduate and a new cast steps in.
I've never watched Oz (not planning to start either), but is Kate the sole focus of the show or just a small segment??
Jon's filing for custody will finally settle it for me. He has plentyof evidence of abuse, parental alienation, making the kids work, etc. If this case doesn't change anything in regards to custody, then there's some critical information the public doesn't know.
This is it folks, the final showdown.
I hope the kids win!
@Admin Many times Kate has panic over many things.Like when she was in "24 hour" protection of Hannah being with Jon or how about when she sued him for the "health" and "safety"of her kids.Also either she or BV said that her haters threaten to kill her and yet if she was in such a panic then why did she never go to the police and i've never herd of a hater getting arrest for attempted murder.Since the interview was before the show aired,my guess is her panic was over the Collin thing and that if he never returns home,this could effect her show.
@Sad but true (123) I love when the Kate fans always resort to the same old straw man arguments when it comes to negative things about Kate.The person is contradicting themselves because they make the claim Kate never said the journals were hers but then calls Robert a thief and that he stole them.
If Dr Oz did any research, he would see she reaped what she sowed. No one is forcing her to scream at her kids and say disparaging things. It isn't the tabloids, it is people who knew her, had interaction with her, also that saw on tv how she behaved. For me and if Dr Oz would be honest, the question should be--Why do you continue to hate your ex husband, who you made these children with, more than you love your kids. That is what it boils down to and no matter how much hope I have that the children can recover from their train wreck of a mother, she goes on tv and proves me wrong again. I think the dream was this super mom image and in actuality TLC produced a Reality trainwreck and she is so into her fame to see she was used, her family destroyed for the entertainment of strangers. If she is so willing to have her anger exploited in front of the cameras, how is she when they are off, a doting caring mother that is misunderstood???
CC said... 137
Oh please. Kate's "panic attacks" = Kate panicking that Jon will be able to stop the filming of his children... That Jon may have a say in the children's lives... That Jon will More custody on days Kate wants to film... That the public will know Kate abused Collin.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
If Kate weren't such a dumb a**, she'd have stayed away from the word "empathy." Did she show empathy toward her 3 year old twins when she laid on the couch sobbing because she wanted just one more? It was poor Mady who tried to comfort her. How scary for a 3 year old. Did she show empathy toward Colin when he was suffering with a compacted bowel when Kate was shopping for furniture? Her solution was to go see daddy. Did she show empathy toward Cara when she said her foot hurt-something she'd been complaining about for days according to her siblings? She had a babysitter take Cara to the ER.
If Dr Oz did any research, he would see she reaped what she sowed. No one is forcing her to scream at her kids and say disparaging things.
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That's kind of the implication from Kate isn't it? That she is this way because she has it so rough. No Kate. Lots of people have it hard. Lots of people have challenges. It's not a free pass to yell scream and overall be a nasty person.
Not watching the interview, but did she seriously say she can't attend all of the kids sporting events? Boo frickin' hoo. I am a widower with 2 kids and yeah...sometimes their softball games and dance competitions collide and I can't be there for both. I pick and choose and ensure that my daughters understand (which they do). I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for the bed she made and is now lying in. She is a complete tool who can't appreciate what she has in front of her. Instead, she chooses the victim route which has detrimental affects on her kids. Great parenting skills Kate, awesome.
Panic attacks (self-diagnosed) NO DOUBT.
Oz is all about promotion. He gives Kate a platform for her "woe-is-me-tour" for ratings.
Just took a look at the Dr. Oz facebook page. There are two posts about her and the majority of the comments are negative. The tide is really turning.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 84
Does TFW ever give a moment's thought to the burden she places on her children by sharing her suffering with them so intimately? And then going on TV and sharing it with the world? She talked about their empathy. Why must they know how hard things are for her?
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Parentification personified.
I hate that she burdens them CONSTANTLY.
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Kate is a twit said... 63
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I think with Kate's blabbering on Dr. Oz, it crystalized for me, the notion that Kate really does view her children as possessions. (no to Vanessa!).
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UGH! That's NOD to Vanessa!
Sorry, just saw it.
Jamesvader1194 said... 141
@Admin Many times Kate has panic over many things.Like when she was in "24 hour" protection of Hannah being with Jon or how about when she sued him for the "health" and "safety"of her kids.
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That wasn't panic, it was spite. And vengeance. She wasn't about to pass up a chance to rip Jon out of her kids' lives for good. Oh and to bankrupt him too, just for the fun of it. She is truly scary in her need to obliterate anyone she perceives as having (possibly going to) hurt her. And she takes every hurt, big or small, as intentional. She is a very sick person.
Victimhood has always been her 'brand'.
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I'm sorry, but this one's just plain dumb.
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@Kateplusmy8 - watching you on #DrOz - you're so well spoken, and you look fabulous! Well done!!!
K8 RT'd her the other night during the program and then replied to her. No wonder she's licking her boots. If she wants to know how "well spoken" K8 is, she should read the transcript, which is pretty much unintelligible.
I think Kate is confusing panic with "manic." She definitely has manic attacks. Mentally ill woman. Get treatment. If you really love your kids get treatment.
Within the first few minutes of Oz, she claims she has calmed down because freaking out wastes so much energy. This is absolute gold because she is gave this interview before her show aired which has shown her screaming, freaking out and her kids commenting in that's how she is all the tume about everything. She is making herself known now and it's not good.
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Karen (#147), thanks for sharing, and I'm sorry to hear about your situation. And that's what is so infuriating about TFW. She acts as if there isn't another living parent to share the joys and sorrows of parenting, but there IS! And I think it's disrespectful to someone like you for her to wave that single-parent banner 24/7.
Westbrooke said... 143
If Dr Oz did any research, he would see she reaped what she sowed. No one is forcing her to scream at her kids and say disparaging things. It isn't the tabloids, it is people who knew her, had interaction with her, also that saw on tv how she behaved. For me and if Dr Oz would be honest, the question should be--Why do you continue to hate your ex husband, who you made these children with, more than you love your kids. That is what it boils down to and no matter how much hope I have that the children can recover from their train wreck of a mother, she goes on tv and proves me wrong again. I think the dream was this super mom image and in actuality TLC produced a Reality trainwreck and she is so into her fame to see she was used, her family destroyed for the entertainment of strangers. If she is so willing to have her anger exploited in front of the cameras, how is she when they are off, a doting caring mother that is misunderstood???
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Well, at least Kate is consistent- she has no shame at all....ever...
This interview needs to be exhibit A in Jon''s court case. The transcript alone shows her contradicting herself in the same thought. She says being on TV isn't easy...days a few more things, bashes Jon and then days I can't change those things. Lord have mercy.
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 126
I don't believe for a second she gets real panic attacks. How diminishing to people who really suffer from those. True panic attacks are like heart attacks and can send you to the hospital. This is just like her OCD. She felt upset once and self diagnosed herself.
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She's also blamed her crabbiness on "low blood sugar"...
Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if a part of her did the People interview about Collin because she was in panic mode about the show getting pushed back. Maybe she did it to prove to TLC there was still interest and that they should air her show. That would be really sick, but I don't put it past her.
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That's exactly what I thought when the People issue came out. Kate's still got juice, so let's keep filming.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 110
Even if she truly is "suffering" through whatever emotional mess she thinks her life is, a good mother does not let on to her kids.
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I'm sure I'm not alone here in growing into an adult, and growing wiser with age and years, and realizing the hardships my mother had.
That woman had a lot of hard, but she soldiered on.
Sure, I saw her pain from time to time, yet, she never BURDENED me with it. She stepped back and allowed me to live MY life.
I know there were times, her mind and heart were heavy, and times when she was ill, and times she was weary, but she always put that on the back burner so I could shine and experience my own joys and sorrows, unfettered.
Shit, now I'm crying...
Poor Collin can't have all the attention Kate needs the attention to.
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Isn't that the saddest part of this all? Kate is actually competing with Collin for attention.
He's a 12-year old boy sent away from home for treatment or placement, and Kate wants the pity.
Pitiful, sure.
I am cinvinced that TLC wants this show to fail. They are done. It's just a matter of time.
December 15, 2016 at 8:28 AM
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I wonder if TLC wanted Kate back, after seeing good numbers for the "specials", and Kate locked in X seasons in her contract.
I just makes sense that TLC is contractually obligated to continue filming and hey, might as well air the shows in the 10pm slot.
This will sound like a total conspiracy but i wonder if the reason Milo went dark was because Kate told her about the show dying and this was Milo's "Get out" card to go dark for some time.I know it sounds totally crazy but if anyone remembers,i herd Milo was in the hospital during the time Kate's show was first cancelled back in 2011 and that if anyone told her,it could effect her recovery.I don't remember Milo ever said she had bad eyes to Kate or her friends and had to to get surgery.Its odd how with the decline in ratings she suddenly announces she has an eye surgery.I would think she'd play the pity card to Kate and her friends and complain about her poor eyesight.
And what the hell!? She says she didn't tell Jon where Collin is because she has to make decisions not to tell Jon because he couldn't keep that information safe! Um...bitch please....the ONLY one exposing anything about Collin has been YOU!!! Not Jon. God she is infuriating! But she did admit that she has no relationship with Jon which the judge should figure out that she's the one who alienates. And she goes awn and awn about the picture that the tabloids paint of her. Yes TFW ...but it has nothing to do with what everyone sees you do ON tv right? So if it's so infuriating why don't you get the hell off tv and then you won't be in tabloids and people won't talk about you....you will be a nobody again and then you can really just "be a mom". She says she abhors the word fame/famous! Yeah right...thats why you've nipped, tucked, got new boobs, injections etc. because you needed to look hot in target in nowhere PA. What a tool
She's also blamed her crabbiness on "low blood sugar"...
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We haven't heard this be four.-(LOL)
chefsummer #Leh said... 136
FlimsyFlamsy said... 127
Admin (#126), I hope Dr. Oz tells her to just choose to not have panic attacks, the way she chose to not have post partum depression.
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Am I sick for finding this funny?
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Mind over matter, baby!
I have been a long time lurker. Posted once or twice. I have to post now to people who will understand. Dr. Oz interview. Wowza! Wowza! Wowza. If you have seen it then you will understand when I say I feel like "blowing chunks" right now!
Phreddielee
Tucker's Mom said... 164
Poor Collin can't have all the attention Kate needs the attention to.
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Isn't that the saddest part of this all? Kate is actually competing with Collin for attention.
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Oh yes.
Remember the pumpkin carving from he 1st season? Kate wasn't having fun so no one would not even her tiny toddlers.
Remember the pumpkin throw years later? Again the twins were having a blast Kate wasn't so she wined and stopped the fun.-(ugh she's just horrible.
FlimsyFlamsy...138...Co-parenting isn't remotely within her realm of understanding.
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She doesn't co-parent, she anti-parents.
Tucker's Mom said... 169
chefsummer #Leh said... 136
FlimsyFlamsy said... 127
Admin (#126), I hope Dr. Oz tells her to just choose to not have panic attacks, the way she chose to not have post partum depression.
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Am I sick for finding this funny?
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Mind over matter, baby!
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how come she can't cure herself from being a bad mom and a witch/
I didn't watch. She drives me up a wall. Did she do the hand-flapping, shifty eyes and wiping away tears?
how come she can't cure herself from being a bad mom and a witch/
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Simple. Because in order to cure a problem, you have to recognize that there is one. There is no self-awareness with that one.
If she thinks the court of public opinion will help her case in court by going on Dr. Oz, she is mistaken. In fact, she made Jon's case she is unfit.
This will sound like a total conspiracy but i wonder if the reason Milo went dark was because Kate told her about the show dying and this was Milo's "Get out" card to go dark for some time.I know it sounds totally crazy but if anyone remembers,i herd Milo was in the hospital during the time Kate's show was first cancelled back in 2011 and that if anyone told her,it could effect her recovery.I don't remember Milo ever said she had bad eyes to Kate or her friends and had to to get surgery.Its odd how with the decline in ratings she suddenly announces she has an eye surgery.I would think she'd play the pity card to Kate and her friends and complain about her poor eyesight.
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Yeah, Milo does seem to perfectly time these things with her alleged surgeries. Strange coincidence, or planned? I don't think, however, that Kate told her about the show not bringing in viewers. Milo could probably figure this out for herself. She's incredibly dumb, but I don't think she's *that* dumb.
So what was "Dr" Oz's advice?
Jbranck1980 (#160), isn't TFW's word salad bizarre? Yes, she's practically laying Jon's case against her right out to the judge. And all the while, feeling thoroughly adorable. You'd feel sorry for her if she wasn't so bloody awful.
Phreddielee (#170), I remember seeing you here before, but without the "lee." Giving TFW a 3-"Wowza" rating is pretty bad! It must not be her fault, though. I assume Dr. Oz just didn't know how to help her...
From Ox's FB...
"Kate Gosselin, star of the reality TV show, Kate Plus 8, reflects on life after marriage and the ups and downs of being a single parent to 8 young teens."
Someone didn't do his/her research. They are not all young teens. How difficult is it to get the ages correct?
Kate's Fetid Soul said... 161
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 126
I don't believe for a second she gets real panic attacks. How diminishing to people who really suffer from those. True panic attacks are like heart attacks and can send you to the hospital. This is just like her OCD. She felt upset once and self diagnosed herself.
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She's also blamed her crabbiness on low blood sugar.
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Well. According to the show, she is crabbie, constantly. Must go to the ER, unconscious several times a year.
I know someone who does. Thank God he has had a reprieve the last 2 years. Last time he went, he was unconscious and his blood sugar was 30 and it took 3 days just to get it up to 70. Over a week in the hospital.
How freaking dare her!
Totally OT, but...I am feeling so awful about what's going on in Aleppo. It's heartbreaking to know the extent of innocent people's suffering. And feeling helpless to do anything about it.
FlimsyFlamsy #179
LOL Been so long since I posted, couldn't remember which one I used! And three WOWZA's doesn't come close to what I was thinking!
Phreddielee or Phreddielee
Karen said... 147
Not watching the interview, but did she seriously say she can't attend all of the kids sporting events? Boo frickin' hoo. I am a widower with 2 kids and yeah...sometimes their softball games and dance competitions collide and I can't be there for both. I pick and choose and ensure that my daughters understand (which they do).
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First, I'm so sorry. Second, you're amazing. Third, this is what it looks like to live an imperfect life, making choices and sacrifices.
You don't throw your hands up in the air and say, 'There's just too much to do, so I'll do nothing'.
She even srated she supports the kids who visit Jon even if those visits cause "ouchies" Um...WTH?
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She said WHAT??
She even srated she supports the kids who visit Jon even if those visits cause "ouchies" Um...WTH?
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She said WHAT??
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There has to be a transcript somewhere. In her ramblings, she said she said something very close to that. Almost to me implying she supports that relationship even if it causes them pain.
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If that "ouchies" comment is real...well, folks, things are so much worse in that house than we've even imagined. Please, please, please let this be the end of the show, and let Jon be able to help pick up the pieces of his broken family.
There has to be a transcript somewhere. In her ramblings, she said she said something very close to that. Almost to me implying she supports that relationship even if it causes them pain.
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She is AWFUL for implying their is something painful about their time with their father. Go sell it to family law court or a therapist. Stop undermining their relationship with him. Also, I don't care what is or isn't happening, it's not her place to tell the public what she thinks. It's a crude violation of their relationship with him and privacy to use the public forum to lodge her complaints. Excuse me how is this not violating their no discussion of the case order????
Even if something bad is happening at Jon's why is she talking about now TV? If she thinks her kids are being abused in any way.
Why not do something about it and why not stop it?
Oh because KK is full of poo.
Not watching the interview, but did she seriously say she can't attend all of the kids sporting events? Boo frickin' hoo. I am a widower with 2 kids and yeah...sometimes their softball games and dance competitions collide and I can't be there for both. I pick and choose and ensure that my daughters understand (which they do).
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Amen. My husband passed away when our four kids were still in school. All were involved in sports and school activities, dance, drama, music, gymnastics. Yes, there were times when I couldn't be everywhere at once. In that case, I called family members or friends to act as surrogates. They were always happy to do so. I made sure that someone was there to cheer them on. The kids understood.
Jon is not dead, for heaven's sake. Call him. Kate has a choice. I didn't. Kate is such a martyr. Speaking of which, has Gladys re-appeared?
Normal parents can't always attend everything. People have lives. They work, they have church meetings, they go out of town for conferences and business trips. What is she talking about not being able to attend everything? That's life for EVERYONE. Why is everything a special case for her??
TFW has perfected all of the "talking points" she thinks single mothers want to hear. She's preying on any loneliness they may feel, their exhaustion after a long week, the conflicts they face trying to make the best decisions for their kids' well being but she has a huge problem or disconnect. She is none of the things she says she is or does and she doesn't think anyone sees the truth and her hypocracy.
The way she tries to manipulate everyone from Dr. Oz to viewers, to the live audience, is hard but fascinating to watch. She's really become a pro at it. It's painful to watch her mental illness come through because IMO she really believes her own BS.
If anyone takes her at her word (which way too many people have done and still do) she comes off as a caring, nurturing, do-it-all mother and I think this is the image she's given to the family court.
She's never been challenged in the media and I don't think she has been in court either. I hope Jon and his lawyer have done their homework and have lined up proof of defense against every single one of her excuses and claims. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think judges or social workers will pick up mental illnesses like w/TFW with just one time interviews and I hope they will do some homework @ TFW and not just take her at face value.
On Dr. Oz TFW had the gall to say that she's been investigated many times and even had social worker tell her they just wanted to 'stay and play and have fun with her well adjusted children' and I wanted to scream at the tv. Things like that are what give TFW the arrogance she has about the whole custody/abuse/Collin issues. And, that caseworker needs to have her license revoked!
She can dab at her eyes and tremble her voice on all of the talk shows she wants and she can claim to be doing everything she can for her kids and be so weary of it all, but there is too much proof that she is actually doing the opposite. Someone just needs to dig out the proof and hopefully the court will allow it to be presented and considered. The time is well past for the children to have to continue to suffer because of some legalities or rules or money issues or whatever has been going on in that family courtroom in PA.
Didn't Kate just do a show where she got up at 5:30 a.m. with the 2 remaining boys to make lunches for all, and the girls submitted their requests via post its? Today she tells Dr. Oz the girls make lunches for all the night before. When someone has to lie about such stupid stuff, you know they lie about everything.
I heard no mention of her attending or not attending the non existent "games".
She went on and on during the interview about she's just like other moms. Right, the ones that are single and go on 4 paid vacations a year. She is so full of $hit her eyes are brown. Throwing Jon under the bus, like he would actually tell the world where his son is. No Kate, no one would know he's not home if you didn't SELL his private medical info. Why didn't Oz ask HER why she released his private information?
Dr. Oz was following a script, with out one hard question about documented abuse. Kate wants to come off as a joke, that ya, I'm a "celebrity" so I get investigated all the time. No way those kids are well adjusted. And some of those kids should be involved in some sporting activities to get out their aggression. Hannah is miserable and has gained a ton of weight. (Sorry, but that girl had a huge gut on her). I am not bashing the child, it's her mother's fault she's on TV in a 2 piece bathing suit, not allowed any privacy. I'm sure if Mady and Cara had as Milo calls it "banging bikini bods" they would be showing off two. But they are just normal 16 year olds. Nothing special and not beauties. Kate must be mortified. Goes to show, the more you try to control, the more they find a way to revolt.
With respect to that "ouchies" comment, every single photo (and there are only a handful) that has been posted of Jon and the kids who visit him has shown comfortable, happy, engaged children. I defy her to find an unstaged photo of her and her kids that even approaches that level of normality. If a single unstaged photo even exists.
She really is in another world. She's jealous of Jon's ability to be happy with his family and his life.
The comments on the Dr Oz FB page are mostly negative. This individual seem s to be her main mouthpiece with multiple comments all in this tone.
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This comment was the way many felt.
***oh please. She has money and limited fame. She is given things and people help her with her children. she knows nothing about being a single mom in the REAL world. Dr Oz.. you lost my respect comparing her to us.***
One of the best comments IMO.
***Kate says she's "driven", yet she won't get a job. Just like every other mom? NO, You stay home all day, and live off your kids' privacy. Single mom story is getting old, you shut out THEIR FATHER. You're living in a million dollar home, don't work, not typical single mom. What a liar. The girls make lunch? On the show she faked getting up w/ the BOYS to make lunch. LIAR LIAR. Just filming "us". Yes, every single mother gets paid to take 3-4 vacations a year.***
Sherri @192 said...TFW has perfected all of the "talking points" she thinks single mothers want to hear. She's preying on any loneliness they may feel, their exhaustion after a long week, the conflicts they face trying to make the best decisions for their kids' well being but she has a huge problem or disconnect. She is none of the things she says she is or does and she doesn't think anyone sees the truth and her hypocracy.
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I didn't watch the show but have been reading the comments on the Dr Oz FB page. I don't thing the REAL single moms are falling for her bullshit.
High Sodium Content @ 193 - Great comments. I agree 100%.
TLC actually posted something Kate-related today on her FB page, "Puppy Prep" or some cutesy nonsense. The comments are mixed as usual, but there was this interesting exchange:
XXXXX She's a wackadoodle !!!
XXXXX Do you know her?
XXXXX Yes, I do in fact ......through her (old) best friend Beth !
Now I bet THIS lady has some stories to tell. If only these people would come out of the woodwork and speak, there have to be hundreds who are biting their tongues.
And people are starting to notice things awry with others of the children (from FB):
XXXXX CARA, NEEDS TO GET COUNCILING AS WELL..
She's beginning to look frightening with that cold dead stare... The Lurch syndrome..
XXXXX The cutest personality in the entire Gossilin bunch is Adorable sweet sunshine smile Alexis..😀😀😀
But,. Suddenly she's been quiet the last few episodes...I'm wondering if this MOMS DOING OR THE. PRODUCERS..
B**ch can't attend her kids events but she can drop everything to fly out for an interview.
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