The sextuplets turn 13 with an outdoor excursion that finds the boys roughing it while the girls go "glamping." Also: Kate reflects on past birthdays and looks ahead to having eight teenagers under one roof.
Gigi Be (#4), maybe A also wanted to be with her brothers because one of their group of 3 has been missing for more than a year. They might have enjoyed having her around. And she clearly feels disenfranchised with the girls -- an outsider to the twins, and a 3rd wheel to the girl tups. Do her children's individual needs, challenges and desires ever factor into TFW's decisions?
Tfmjg is still boring. Things that are not boring: Blood Drive tv series on SyFy, funny horror alternative dystopian future mishmash of a series that is horrifying, hilarious, and a mystery too! It's my newest summer guilty pleasure! There is even a call in line! That seriously is posted as a scroll during the episodes! Tfmjg could use this idea! http://www.syfy.com/blood-drive-complaint-hotline Big Brother 19 on CBS, the regal Chenbot hostess Julie Chen, (Mrs. Les Moonves) presiding over the backstabbing of the hamsters, I mean house guests! This week has been especially good! And definitely not boring (please pretend I am channeling Stefon from SNL now) is the REALEST REALITY SHOW EVER! I'm taking about The Senate! Starring JOHN MCCAIN! In the Very Special Episode, Midnight Votes on Health Care! It's got everything! Humor! irony! Pathos! Partisanship! Last minute phone calls from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue! It's only missing khaleesi, a couple dragons, and an iron throne.
So TLC just out of the blue show Kate and Steve acting like an old married couple? O sure! Yes, he's head of security like she's princess Diana or something. Living out in rural Pa with all the Amish down the road is dangerous and she needs protection!
One google search about kate and Steve brings up articles from everywhere. Intouch- TCL bought incriminating pictures of them so the public wouldn't see...then click on images.. there's one of her hugging Steve's boys goodbye in the driveway.also one of Gina Facebook pictures of her Steve and the boys.
So how does a mother of 8 explain her affair with a married man?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 199 NJGal51 (#197), and how about that annual "vote" on whether or not to continue filming, that was supposed to be unanimous? What nonsense **** Looking forward to the first kid to dispel that b.s. It always frustrated me that otherwise intelligent adults would let Kate slide by with that huge lie. Even it it were the truth-I don't believe it for a second-and all kids voted yay each time Kate asked if they wanted to continue filming, it's preposterous to leave such decisions in the hands of children whose brains are 2 DECADES from being fully developed.
Charles had a jealous personality, and so does Kate. ^^^ omg, veeeeeeeerrrry jealous. As the seasons wore on, we saw it more and more how Kate cranked her antics up to '11' so that she got screen time. She really took it over the top when she decided to wear near nip-slip tops over and over again, with Daisy Dukes and hooker heels.
Kate LIVES by the fixed pie fallacy, whereby if anyone else gains, she loses. Kate has been steadfast in eliminating anything and anyone who stands to take a piece of HER pie.
Anonymous/Real Time Mom (10) TLC did the same thing with the RV episodes. The whole pizza meltdown for Steve's benefit...I think when they get sick of her and her antics, they let the curtain slip a bit and show some of her secrets. Their own little FU to her for being so difficult. Contrast her behavior toward Steve's dietary demands ("He doesn't eat salad! Or macaroni and cheese!") to her reaction to the guy with gluten issues at DC Cupcakes ("I have too many people to feed; I don't deal with dietary issues").
He could have taken the example of President Kennedy. When he and his wife visited Paris, Jacqueline Kennedy was such a big hit with French people and the press, when he made a major speech there he said, "Let me introduce myself, I am the man who accompanied Jacqueline Kennedy to Paris".
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He always acted so tickled pink that Jackie was such a hit. He was proud of her, and loved to see her bask in the limelight, and do good works with it. Instead of resenting her popularity, he embraced it, saw it as good for the country. I think a big part of what split Charles and Diana up was he really just couldn't hack it being "and her husband."
I think some people just have jealous personalities, and perhaps it's a case of something from their childhood or just needing some therapy to not be so resentful of others all the time. Charles had a jealous personality, and so does Kate.
I'm not even going to get into JFK and Jackie's twisted, unhealthy marriage... As for the Prince of Wales, I think you are badly discounting him. If anyone was the jealous partner in that relationship it was Diana. It was a bad marriage from the start because of both participants.
NJ Gal, I'm so glad you remembered Sharknado! These movies are so very bad that they are extra fun to watch! I can't wait to see who are all the celeb cameos this time, getting eaten by sharks, or fighting the sharks! The special effects alone look like they cost $10.95, at least!
After watching both the show and the clips on TLC's FB page, a couple things were obvious to me. 1.) Jamie has that same dead behind the eyes look as Khate, together they just sucked all the fun out of that shopping trip. 2.) All of the other adults on Monday's show were there to serve Khate in preparing for the party, I wouldn't even call Skeevie her equal, and 3.) Why wasn't Uncle Ronnie's hairstylist skills utilized as part of the 'glamping' portion of the campout? Give the girls some easy updo's for their flower crowns? Instead, he got to carry a bucket of water to fill up a pedicure basin. Yeah, that looks good on a resume.
Why didn't Uncle Ronnie do the Glam Station instead he was reduced to the designated "Mr. Water Bucket Man"?
After he started appearing on the show and on IG and the backlash, I would think he would be kicking himself to see how far down the ladder his career has really went.
NIOP said... 140 My point is every female that lived or passed thru the front door of his home, including Jamie, yelled and hit him. He was left in windowless rooms for days. Food was withheld. Wrist Zip-tied. _______________________
Where is this stated?
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That is not true. Why is this being put out there?
Another day, another phone call:) Today I talked to the owner of a local business whose ad ran on Monday's episode of Kate + 8. He was more familiar with the Duggar saga, but not so much Counting On & didn't know anything about Khate. He does now:) and will be instructing his ad agency not to advertise on either Counting On or Khate + 7. He told me the ad agencies only guarantee placement on programs with a certain demographic (evidently they don't focus on ratings so much--I had quoted the difference in ratings between Counting On and Khate + 7) and asked me if I was in the advertising business. Ha!
I also went back and compared this week and last week's list of ads on Khate + 7. There were no local business ads shown last week (7/17) but after I called the companies whose ads were shown 3, 5, or 6 times on that date, their ads were absent this week and 3 local ads were shown.
Up next: a letter to the fan site of my city's MLB team re: their ad that was shown on Khate + 7. Question: If at least some of the Counting On viewers share the Duggar's fundamentalist views, why show the ad TWICE for the movie Kidnap, which has an R rating?
Susan1956 (24) You're my hero! I think if anyone from those companies watched an episode of K+8-1, they would be horrified at the very thought that their ads were being aired during such a spectacle. Kudos to you for taking action.
PA Dutch Mom said... 23 That is not true. Why is this being put out there? _______________
It's been out there for quite a while. I believe it originated at Via View files site, or from some of those who frequented it. Making up outrageous lies doesn't help in the credibility department, IMO.
I do not post a lot but read here daily. Kate sending C away and not having any emotions about it should not surprise anyone. Remember what she said about Camp Barnadas? I can't remember the exact wording but wasn't it something on the lines of "the camp is good so it gives the parent's a break from their kids"
It's been out there for quite a while. I believe it originated at Via View files site, or from some of those who frequented it. Making up outrageous lies doesn't help in the credibility department, IMO.
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Exactly. It's outrageous to make such an assertion. Sometimes the Kate haters on various sites just make things up as they go along without any basis in fact.
kateplusmy8 Definitely the right way to recover from a little bit of oral surgery, if I must say so myself! Trying to keep 2 bouncy teenage boys 'still' in order to heal is not easy! But the girls and I made a 'hospital room' and have been waiting on them hand and foot! Apparently, they healed super fast bc this am the boys cleaned up their 'hospital room' on their own and were off playing... no where to be found! Lol😂🙄 #BoysWillBeBoys
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jamiepumpkin3 Kisses to my boys! And to the girls too! Annnnd fur babies.. and you! Miss you all!
jamiepumpkin3 And Z Bird, even though he would bite me! 🐦
LOTS of questions as to Collin's whereabouts. Wonder if he had to have oral surgery too---at someplace besides the comfort of his own home. _____
Confused said... 27
I don't believe this originated at VVFiles. K8 is barely mentioned there. It came from elsewhere, but I cannot recall offhand. Maybe KIAT will know how to find it.
I can't remember the exact wording but wasn't it something on the lines of "the camp is good so it gives the parent's a break from their kids" ***** That just gave me chills...
Awww, thanks guys. I don't know how much of an impact I will have as it seems there's always more companies to replace the ones who won't advertise on Khate + 7 or Counting On. But if TLC is looking for reasons not to film anymore Khate + 7--"sorry Khate, it's not financially feasible to film anymore episodes because of all these companies who will not advertise on your show"--I'm happy to do that. I just don't think TLC is as invested in Khate as they are the Duggars and will kick her to the curb first.
Susan1956 @ 24 - Thank you for taking the time to inform advertisers of your/our concern. I'm sure the people you have spoken to appreciate your bringing to their attention the way their advertising dollars are being spent, and the values (or lack of same) expressed by the 'performers' in these shows.
Sara, I thought about Camp Barnabus also. Notice her hands.
All over the place.
Can't believe she said about Zorro.
Here is the CB interview with those polished young ladies. Don't you know she had dollar signs in her head and eyes when she saw them and thought, wow my little ATM's, M & C could do this.
I don't believe this originated at VVFiles. K8 is barely mentioned there. It came from elsewhere, but I cannot recall offhand. Maybe KIAT will know how to find it. __________
I said from Via View files or some of those who frequented that site.
SaraMRN2010 (#29), nice to see you posting. Gosh, I hadn't thought about that Camp Barnabas interview in a while. What a tone-deaf knucklehead she is. But remember, this is a woman who went to St. Jude's with a wagon full of her books (?!), and dared to compare her 423 weeks of pampered bedrest to being afflicted with childhood cancer.
Anonymous 25 to post just start typing the comment you want to say in the coment box. Then click on the box that says comment as and click name/URL and then write your name you want to use in that space.
The story about zip ties being used on Collin was from an print article published in In Touch magazine in December about Jon taking Kate back to court. According to the article, a "source" says that some of the children told Jon that Kate used zip ties on Collin to restrain him.
Someone posted screenshots of that article on twitter, you can read it here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy4e3ZwWgAAObyt.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy4e3ZqXgAcGSRN.jpg
As far as the other stuff, back in November, there were articles about Kate being investigated for child abuse based on statements Collin made. In a print article, In Touch (again) said that a source said that Collin "was forced to eat and sleep separately and had to earn time with the rest of the family members."
miloandjack2016 Oral surgery? That mean next round of braces? They deserve a lil extra #TLC! So how come #Max ...Aaden"s buddy is not there to comfort the boys? 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 Speaking of dogs...did your 3 Furbabies...especially #Nanuq go nuts w/puppylike joy to see you again after the vacay? ❤ #DogsAreFamily @kateplusmy8
Ugh. I think the photo is to show everyone who's noticed that she is doing something about the boy' teeth.
miloandjack2016 Oral surgery? That mean next round of braces? They deserve a lil extra #TLC! So how come #Max ...Aaden"s buddy is not there to comfort the boys? 😋 @kateplusmy8 ========= Milo is concerned as to whether or not the dog is there to comfort them? What about their brother Milo? Shouldn't he be there to comfort them and they him? At 13 the boy's should be able to follow the doctors instructions and TFW shouldn't have to worry about keeping two "bouncy teenage boys 'still' in order to heal". Honest question....if Aden already has braces, what type of oral surgery would he be getting?
Zip ties, locked in his room, etc. I believe Kate is capable of that. It sounds about right for a reason for CPS to be called, and why Collin would be away this long.
by three five (#44), yeah, I can't imagine the boys weren't told to just man up, and to keep any moaning in pain at a low volume. They are second-class citizens in that house.
Kate is a twit said... 40 Whether the stories are true or not is anyone's guess. Take it for what it's worth. ____________
Exactly. It's interesting that "sources" are always questioned when some flowery, gushing story appears in one of the lowly gossip mags, but when "sources" make the most scurrilous claims about Kate they eventually morph into accepted commentary.
As I said above, I personally believe such information supplied to the rag mags came from the likes of those rabid haters we've seen on other venues. And for me those places lose all credibility because the remarks are not questioned. Free speech is great, but where are those who question the validity of such defamatory accusations?
lol re :Ronnie and the pedi water. Even then Leah complained the water was too hot. Alexis said it was fine. All the glam they did was nails, then girly crafts in a very pink atmosphere. And why dye Noo-Noo ( ugh) pink?? Hair would have been an a nice addition.
Thank you #39 I have read her for 6 years plus. So shout out to all for your spot on analogies & admin for giving ppl this platform to do so. I was team jon for years .. that has changed. His inability to rein khate in is just mind boggling. He finds it acceptable to get who he gets & be ok with that? He has failed them in my eyes because when this started to be a problem he did not pursue it. To knowly say publicly he did not see Collin for a year & a half is just unacceptable to me. This has been discussed here heavily but in truth what parent wouldn't park there butt at the end of a driveway call the police & demand a visual at least? The prior conversation stating zip ties.. glad a poster found the article regarding that. I personally believe Collin refuses to go home. Why be around a mother who has singled him out blanetly...horrificly & with calculation? Think about maddi, Kate NEEDS her on her side, without her kate has no pull. I know this is all repetitive observations from some of you & I apologize for rambling. In closing I want to mention jon has been silent for 3 weeks on instagram & a month on twitter. No gig promos ... nothing. That is VERY telling ... seems like something is up. I certainly hope tlc reads their responses regarding khate & see that the public has dug their heels in the ground & have not let the "missing child" observation go. How on earth can you film this family in crisis & say nothing? I don't believe ONE SINGLE WORD khate tries to pawn off regarding Collin. What ever happen was BIG. VERY BIG. I personally hope he never goes back. He LIVED this hell. The reason I feel so strongly about that is he got / getting therapy for issues that were projected onto him from his mother. The problem with that is she is STILL the same evil, abusive, loveless person as when he left 2 birthdays ago. She does not deserve him in her life. Neither does Steve, Jamie , makeup lady, Jon or any other adult. THEY ALL FAILED HIM.
Confused said... It's interesting that "sources" are always questioned when some flowery, gushing story appears in one of the lowly gossip mags, but when "sources" make the most scurrilous claims about Kate they eventually morph into accepted commentary. -------------- I've seen Kate in action. There is nothing genuinely "flowery" about how she treats her children.
I've read Kate's COPYRIGHTED journal, and the abuse her children received, and believe Kate to be capable of emotional, mental, and physical abuse. I read her own words about it.
I believe Kate is capable of zip-tying a child she feels is "unruly." I believe she would lock up a child to punish them. I believe she would deprive them of food.
Collin hasn't lived with her for over a year. That says a lot.
Maybe the boys had their wisdom teeth extracted. It would be odd to do that after braces are already on, but it would be odd to do any oral surgery after braces are on. I have to wonder what kind of insurance she has for dental/ortho. Ours covered a specific dollar amount for the whole family, so we ended up paying for a lot out of pocket. Our kids needed wisdom teeth extraction, spacers, and braces. It's expensive! We ended up paying out of pocket for some of them. Only one more to go. Whew! I wonder if she was hoping that TLC would film this and pay for it.
Confused said... Free speech is great, but where are those who question the validity of such defamatory accusations? -------------- I don't personally find the accusations defamatory. I find them believable.
Kate is very capable of suing InTouch for libel, or defamation. She has sued for copyright, so we know she will sue if she has a case. She hasn't sued anyone for libel or defamation.
Exactly. It's interesting that "sources" are always questioned when some flowery, gushing story appears in one of the lowly gossip mags, but when "sources" make the most scurrilous claims about Kate they eventually morph into accepted commentary.
As I said above, I personally believe such information supplied to the rag mags came from the likes of those rabid haters we've seen on other venues. And for me those places lose all credibility because the remarks are not questioned. Free speech is great, but where are those who question the validity of such defamatory accusations?
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Yes and no. There have been several stories from sources about her, some nearly as outrageous, that turned out to be absolutely true.
With her, I've found that when it all shakes out, a whole heck of a lot of anonymous stories end up being true. That's just the way it's been. I don't know if she has a lot of people who don't like her who want to spill the beans to get back at her, or what the reason for this is. But, a whole heck of a lot of insider scoops turn out to be spot on correct, which is why I'm less likely to dismiss tabloid stories outright when it comes to this saga. Many of the stories have been surprisingly accurate.
NoChance said... 49 Thank you #39 I have read her for 6 years plus. ****** Welcome! It's been great to see old faces and new ones, too! What a great first post. You made so many great points.
I'm with you on Jon. I think he's a good dad in many ways, but I will NEVER understand why he allowed the whole "I get who I get" thing to fester. I will NEVER understand how he could not/did not see Colin for 2 years. I will NEVER understand Jon's actions right after the divorce.
SO agree Kate needs Mady in a very unhealthy way.
Jon not posting anything in a few weeks make me go "hmmmm", too.
TLC is a POS for filming this family through and since, and profiting off of their pain and crisis. Of course, no Kate, no filming, so it's ultimately on her.
I believe nothing Kate says about Colin. It's just word-shaped air anyway. You're right about Colin coming home and nothing will have changed. I don't think he'll ever sleep in his own bed, in the basement man cave again.
I think many of the "leaks" over the years have come from Kate's camp, so she could keep herself in the tabloids and generate interest for appearances and interviews to "set the record straight".
I will never forget how Kate treated Collin when he gave her that beautiful gift of a mama bear and her cub, representing him and Kate. Or the comments she made after-the-fact.
I will never forget when Collin said he wants to hug his mom but she won't let him.
Although we can believe Kate is capable of such atrocities, we do not know. The In Touch articles quote "a source." I do not find that enough information to make the leap that if a source said it, it's true.
As for Kate suing a rag mag for defamation, there are way more celebs who do NOT sue for what those crap mags print than do.
But, a whole heck of a lot of insider scoops turn out to be spot on correct, which is why I'm less likely to dismiss tabloid stories outright when it comes to this saga. Many of the stories have been surprisingly accurate. ____________________
That's not enough evidence to say it's so. And if a lot of insider scoops turn out to be true then the same can be said about the gaggingly positive stories that come out about Kate that are also from "sources."
That's not enough evidence to say it's so. And if a lot of insider scoops turn out to be true then the same can be said about the gaggingly positive stories that come out about Kate that are also from "sources."
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I didn't say it was enough evidence to say it is so, but I'm not going to throw it out as garbage either.
Some stories are true, some are not, and usually time will tell.
Some, we may never know. But I'm not about to discard a story unless proven otherwise like so many people did the first time a nanny spoke out about the child abuse. Big.....mistake to poo poo that one.
I'm not saying you should throw out anything like it was garbage. I said, for ME, a sites lose credibility when they put out unprovable information and no one even questions it.
I'm not saying you should throw out anything like it was garbage. I said, for ME, a sites lose credibility when they put out unprovable information and no one even questions it.
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Well, it's not true that no one questioned it, so.
It's easy to believe negative stories about Kate because of the way she treats them on camera. When the show came back in 2014, she admitted that she doesn't let them win. Now we see her being very ugly--and very competitive--toward them. She is butting in on things that would be much more pleasant without her, just to keep the kids from getting more camera time and attention. Even fans are saying they would rather watch the kids without her. There was no good reason why she should have gone to space camp with the kids, other than her trying to make sure she gets more camera time. Then there are all the activities that would have been pleasant and fun to watch, but she barged in, pitched a fit, and ruined it. The tower jump, camping in Alaska, water tubing, parasailing, skiing, etc. Even the twins' 16th birthday had to be al about her and the amount of work she has to do. Or the "most fun activity ever"--that archery thing--none of the kids wanted her to participate but she wouldn't budge. And then she was demanding that the kids disrupt their fun to run around and collect arrows for her. Any other mom would be collecting arrows for their kids so that the kids would have more fun. Not this mother. She is manipulative, controlling, abusive, and now seems to be in competition with her kids. It's an ugly dynamic no matter how you look at it.
I'm wondering if TLC ever proposed doing a show with just the kids. She would never agree to that. She'd take the whole family off TV before she let the kids be on without her, no matter what viewers want. It's all about her.
Reading her IG ...when other mothers do sympathize with her regarding Collins absence they speak from personal experience of their child being in a full time facility. But the kicker is... new ppl don't get that khate abused .. & documented her accounts of it. So have many others INCLUDING the other kids whether it was to jon / teachers etc. His issues seem to be a product of his environment & believe they all stem from his mother. If he was in a different loving house vs his he would be a healthy minded child. So in closing some other parents are oblivious to his struggles brought on by his own mother.
Although we can believe Kate is capable of such atrocities, we do not know. The In Touch articles quote "a source." I do not find that enough information to make the leap that if a source said it, it's true. ------ To me this isn't JUST about what a source says, it's what we already KNOW about Kate that makes it ring true.
I believe it based on what I already KNOW FOR A FACT about Kate. I do KNOW that Kate is capable of such atrocities. Do I KNOW for a fact that she zip-tied Collin? No, but how much can anyone know for a fact? Unless you see something with your own eyes in person, or on camera, you can't really KNOW anything 100%.
You take the evidence and go with that. You can choose to believe the evidence was tampered with, or pics photoshopped, footage was faked, eyewitness testimony is wrong, accusers lied, on and on...
But I have no doubt that Kate is capable of the things she has been accused of.
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----------------- I'm not talking about other celebs. I'm talking about Kate. She does go the lawsuit route. She has in the past... but never for libel.
I agree CC ... hkate NOT ONE SINGLE TIME.. has sued any mag regarding libel. Someone on twitter called j woods a coke head & he took him to court & he settled. Khate has been deemed abusive a thousand times in print form. She has done ZERO to protect her reputation being called abusive. Why is that? I believe we know the answer.....
I believe Kate is capable of zip-tying a child she feels is "unruly." I believe she would lock up a child to punish them. I believe she would deprive them of food.
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Yes, I absolutely believe that she zip tied Collin and kept him in the basement, had to earn his way out because of Hannah telling Jon how she was treating Collin.
This is why this banchee went ape **** to get Hannah away from Jon. If Hannah told Jon that Collin was zip tied in the basement, he should of called the police. They could of found him like that.
But, I hope it is not true, but, she is a sadistic evil monster just by competing against the kids. I would not put anything past her.
A huge settlement went to either MTM or Carol Burnett for printing that she was out in public very drunk.
Remember that Halloween picture years ago, Steve was driving the kids around trick or treating and there is a picture of TFW all in her glory, knock out asleep. She looked like she was drunk the way she was slumped in the seat.
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No wonder TLC cut the scene with the pink dog. "Nervous due to all the activity" my a--.
http://www.elle.com/culture/news/a21866/peta-blasts-alessandra-ambrosio-for-pink-purple-dye-dog/
Tfmjg is still boring.
Things that are not boring:
Blood Drive tv series on SyFy, funny horror alternative dystopian future mishmash of a series that is horrifying, hilarious, and a mystery too! It's my newest summer guilty pleasure! There is even a call in line! That seriously is posted as a scroll during the episodes! Tfmjg could use this idea! http://www.syfy.com/blood-drive-complaint-hotline
Big Brother 19 on CBS, the regal Chenbot hostess Julie Chen, (Mrs. Les Moonves) presiding over the backstabbing of the hamsters, I mean house guests! This week has been especially good!
And definitely not boring (please pretend I am channeling Stefon from SNL now) is the REALEST REALITY SHOW EVER! I'm taking about The Senate! Starring JOHN MCCAIN! In the Very Special Episode, Midnight Votes on Health Care! It's got everything! Humor! irony! Pathos! Partisanship! Last minute phone calls from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue! It's only missing khaleesi, a couple dragons, and an iron throne.
I wonder if TLC made TFW read that statement about C since the episode was called "Six Teenagers!" and there were clearly only 5.
So TLC just out of the blue show Kate and Steve acting like an old married couple? O sure! Yes, he's head of security like she's princess Diana or something. Living out in rural Pa with all the Amish down the road is dangerous and she needs protection!
One google search about kate and Steve brings up articles from everywhere. Intouch- TCL bought incriminating pictures of them so the public wouldn't see...then click on images.. there's one of her hugging Steve's boys goodbye in the driveway.also one of Gina Facebook pictures of her Steve and the boys.
So how does a mother of 8 explain her affair with a married man?
Hi this is Real Time Mom. I head to post my last comment as anonymous as it wouldn't go through otherwise. Happy Friday :-)
Judge Judy would chew Kate up and spit her out.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when other judges have had Kate before them.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 199
NJGal51 (#197), and how about that annual "vote" on whether or not to continue filming, that was supposed to be unanimous? What nonsense
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Looking forward to the first kid to dispel that b.s.
It always frustrated me that otherwise intelligent adults would let Kate slide by with that huge lie.
Even it it were the truth-I don't believe it for a second-and all kids voted yay each time Kate asked if they wanted to continue filming, it's preposterous to leave such decisions in the hands of children whose brains are 2 DECADES from being fully developed.
Charles had a jealous personality, and so does Kate.
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omg, veeeeeeeerrrry jealous. As the seasons wore on, we saw it more and more how Kate cranked her antics up to '11' so that she got screen time.
She really took it over the top when she decided to wear near nip-slip tops over and over again, with Daisy Dukes and hooker heels.
LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Kate LIVES by the fixed pie fallacy, whereby if anyone else gains, she loses.
Kate has been steadfast in eliminating anything and anyone who stands to take a piece of HER pie.
Anonymous/Real Time Mom (10)
TLC did the same thing with the RV episodes. The whole pizza meltdown for Steve's benefit...I think when they get sick of her and her antics, they let the curtain slip a bit and show some of her secrets. Their own little FU to her for being so difficult. Contrast her behavior toward Steve's dietary demands ("He doesn't eat salad! Or macaroni and cheese!") to her reaction to the guy with gluten issues at DC Cupcakes ("I have too many people to feed; I don't deal with dietary issues").
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 3
He could have taken the example of President Kennedy. When he and his wife visited Paris, Jacqueline Kennedy was such a big hit with French people and the press, when he made a major speech there he said, "Let me introduce myself, I am the man who accompanied Jacqueline Kennedy to Paris".
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He always acted so tickled pink that Jackie was such a hit. He was proud of her, and loved to see her bask in the limelight, and do good works with it. Instead of resenting her popularity, he embraced it, saw it as good for the country. I think a big part of what split Charles and Diana up was he really just couldn't hack it being "and her husband."
I think some people just have jealous personalities, and perhaps it's a case of something from their childhood or just needing some therapy to not be so resentful of others all the time. Charles had a jealous personality, and so does Kate.
I'm not even going to get into JFK and Jackie's twisted, unhealthy marriage... As for the Prince of Wales, I think you are badly discounting him. If anyone was the jealous partner in that relationship it was Diana. It was a bad marriage from the start because of both participants.
Things that are not boring:
Sharknado 5 - Global Swarming (August 6th on SyFi) - Don't hate, I know they're stupid (gloriously idiotic) but I've watched every one of them.
NJ Gal, I'm so glad you remembered Sharknado! These movies are so very bad that they are extra fun to watch! I can't wait to see who are all the celeb cameos this time, getting eaten by sharks, or fighting the sharks! The special effects alone look like they cost $10.95, at least!
The special effects alone look like they cost $10.95, at least!
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LOL! That's sort of what makes these types of movies fun.
After watching both the show and the clips on TLC's FB page, a couple things were obvious to me. 1.) Jamie has that same dead behind the eyes look as Khate, together they just sucked all the fun out of that shopping trip. 2.) All of the other adults on Monday's show were there to serve Khate in preparing for the party, I wouldn't even call Skeevie her equal, and 3.) Why wasn't Uncle Ronnie's hairstylist skills utilized as part of the 'glamping' portion of the campout? Give the girls some easy updo's for their flower crowns? Instead, he got to carry a bucket of water to fill up a pedicure basin. Yeah, that looks good on a resume.
Susan1956, you are right.
Why didn't Uncle Ronnie do the Glam Station instead he was reduced to the designated "Mr. Water Bucket Man"?
After he started appearing on the show and on IG and the backlash, I would think he would be kicking himself to see how far down the ladder his career has really went.
That's got to be a bummer!
NIOP said... 140
My point is every female that lived or passed thru the front door of his home, including Jamie, yelled and hit him. He was left in windowless rooms for days. Food was withheld. Wrist Zip-tied.
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Where is this stated?
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That is not true. Why is this being put out there?
Another day, another phone call:) Today I talked to the owner of a local business whose ad ran on Monday's episode of Kate + 8. He was more familiar with the Duggar saga, but not so much Counting On & didn't know anything about Khate. He does now:) and will be instructing his ad agency not to advertise on either Counting On or Khate + 7. He told me the ad agencies only guarantee placement on programs with a certain demographic (evidently they don't focus on ratings so much--I had quoted the difference in ratings between Counting On and Khate + 7) and asked me if I was in the advertising business. Ha!
I also went back and compared this week and last week's list of ads on Khate + 7. There were no local business ads shown last week (7/17) but after I called the companies whose ads were shown 3, 5, or 6 times on that date, their ads were absent this week and 3 local ads were shown.
Up next: a letter to the fan site of my city's MLB team re: their ad that was shown on Khate + 7. Question: If at least some of the Counting On viewers share the Duggar's fundamentalist views, why show the ad TWICE for the movie Kidnap, which has an R rating?
Could you EXPLAIN HOW to post? I don't have google & don't understand the URL concept long LONG time reader
Susan1956!!!
You ROCK!!
You have really put a slam dunk on the K7 ads!
Hope you get a Grand Slam with the MLB team!
Susan1956 (24)
You're my hero! I think if anyone from those companies watched an episode of K+8-1, they would be horrified at the very thought that their ads were being aired during such a spectacle. Kudos to you for taking action.
PA Dutch Mom said... 23
That is not true. Why is this being put out there?
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It's been out there for quite a while. I believe it originated at Via View files site, or from some of those who frequented it. Making up outrageous lies doesn't help in the credibility department, IMO.
I do not post a lot but read here daily. Kate sending C away and not having any emotions about it should not surprise anyone. Remember what she said about Camp Barnadas? I can't remember the exact wording but wasn't it something on the lines of "the camp is good so it gives the parent's a break from their kids"
It's been out there for quite a while. I believe it originated at Via View files site, or from some of those who frequented it. Making up outrageous lies doesn't help in the credibility department, IMO.
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Exactly. It's outrageous to make such an assertion. Sometimes the Kate haters on various sites just make things up as they go along without any basis in fact.
She's baaaa-aaack.
kateplusmy8 Definitely the right way to recover from a little bit of oral surgery, if I must say so myself! Trying to keep 2 bouncy teenage boys 'still' in order to heal is not easy! But the girls and I made a 'hospital room' and have been waiting on them hand and foot! Apparently, they healed super fast bc this am the boys cleaned up their 'hospital room' on their own and were off playing... no where to be found! Lol😂🙄 #BoysWillBeBoys
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jamiepumpkin3 Kisses to my boys! And to the girls too! Annnnd fur babies.. and you! Miss you all!
jamiepumpkin3 And Z Bird, even though he would bite me! 🐦
LOTS of questions as to Collin's whereabouts. Wonder if he had to have oral surgery too---at someplace besides the comfort of his own home.
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Confused said... 27
I don't believe this originated at VVFiles. K8 is barely mentioned there. It came from elsewhere, but I cannot recall offhand. Maybe KIAT will know how to find it.
I can't remember the exact wording but wasn't it something on the lines of "the camp is good so it gives the parent's a break from their kids"
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That just gave me chills...
GollyGee...25 & Layla...26
Awww, thanks guys. I don't know how much of an impact I will have as it seems there's always more companies to replace the ones who won't advertise on Khate + 7 or Counting On. But if TLC is looking for reasons not to film anymore Khate + 7--"sorry Khate, it's not financially feasible to film anymore episodes because of all these companies who will not advertise on your show"--I'm happy to do that. I just don't think TLC is as invested in Khate as they are the Duggars and will kick her to the curb first.
Susan1956 @ 24 - Thank you for taking the time to inform advertisers of your/our concern. I'm sure the people you have spoken to appreciate your bringing to their attention the way their advertising dollars are being spent, and the values (or lack of same) expressed by the 'performers' in these shows.
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Sara, I thought about Camp Barnabus also. Notice her hands.
All over the place.
Can't believe she said about Zorro.
Here is the CB interview with those polished young ladies. Don't you know she had dollar signs in her head and eyes when she saw them and thought, wow my little ATM's, M & C could do this.
https://youtu.be/xqc-GwBMAKA
I don't believe this originated at VVFiles. K8 is barely mentioned there. It came from elsewhere, but I cannot recall offhand. Maybe KIAT will know how to find it.
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I said from Via View files or some of those who frequented that site.
PA Dutch Mom (29)
I agree 100%.
SaraMRN2010 (#29), nice to see you posting. Gosh, I hadn't thought about that Camp Barnabas interview in a while. What a tone-deaf knucklehead she is. But remember, this is a woman who went to St. Jude's with a wagon full of her books (?!), and dared to compare her 423 weeks of pampered bedrest to being afflicted with childhood cancer.
Anonymous 25 to post just start typing the comment you want to say in the coment box. Then click on the box that says comment as and click name/URL and then write your name you want to use in that space.
The story about zip ties being used on Collin was from an print article published in In Touch magazine in December about Jon taking Kate back to court. According to the article, a "source" says that some of the children told Jon that Kate used zip ties on Collin to restrain him.
Someone posted screenshots of that article on twitter, you can read it here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy4e3ZwWgAAObyt.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy4e3ZqXgAcGSRN.jpg
As far as the other stuff, back in November, there were articles about Kate being investigated for child abuse based on statements Collin made. In a print article, In Touch (again) said that a source said that Collin "was forced to eat and sleep separately and had to earn time with the rest of the family members."
You can read that article here:
http://www.pressreader.com/usa/in-touch-usa/20161111/282054801589463
Whether the stories are true or not is anyone's guess. Take it for what it's worth.
miloandjack2016 Oral surgery? That mean next round of braces? They deserve a lil extra #TLC! So how come #Max ...Aaden"s buddy is not there to comfort the boys? 😋 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016 Speaking of dogs...did your 3 Furbabies...especially #Nanuq go nuts w/puppylike joy to see you again after the vacay? ❤ #DogsAreFamily @kateplusmy8
Ugh. I think the photo is to show everyone who's noticed that she is doing something about the boy' teeth.
Kate is a twit said... 40
Thanks, KIAT. I knew you would know where to find it.
miloandjack2016 Oral surgery? That mean next round of braces? They deserve a lil extra #TLC! So how come #Max ...Aaden"s buddy is not there to comfort the boys? 😋 @kateplusmy8
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Milo is concerned as to whether or not the dog is there to comfort them? What about their brother Milo? Shouldn't he be there to comfort them and they him? At 13 the boy's should be able to follow the doctors instructions and TFW shouldn't have to worry about keeping two "bouncy teenage boys 'still' in order to heal". Honest question....if Aden already has braces, what type of oral surgery would he be getting?
Yeah, we've seen the way the girls in that family, Mom included, treat the boys. They were NOT waiting on them hand and foot!
Zip ties, locked in his room, etc. I believe Kate is capable of that. It sounds about right for a reason for CPS to be called, and why Collin would be away this long.
by three five (#44), yeah, I can't imagine the boys weren't told to just man up, and to keep any moaning in pain at a low volume. They are second-class citizens in that house.
Kate is a twit said... 40
Whether the stories are true or not is anyone's guess. Take it for what it's worth.
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Exactly. It's interesting that "sources" are always questioned when some flowery, gushing story appears in one of the lowly gossip mags, but when "sources" make the most scurrilous claims about Kate they eventually morph into accepted commentary.
As I said above, I personally believe such information supplied to the rag mags came from the likes of those rabid haters we've seen on other venues. And for me those places lose all credibility because the remarks are not questioned. Free speech is great, but where are those who question the validity of such defamatory accusations?
Susan1956 said... 21
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lol re :Ronnie and the pedi water. Even then Leah complained the water was too hot. Alexis said it was fine. All the glam they did was nails, then girly crafts in a very pink atmosphere. And why dye Noo-Noo ( ugh) pink?? Hair would have been an a nice addition.
Thank you #39 I have read her for 6 years plus. So shout out to all for your spot on analogies & admin for giving ppl this platform to do so. I was team jon for years .. that has changed. His inability to rein khate in is just mind boggling. He finds it acceptable to get who he gets & be ok with that? He has failed them in my eyes because when this started to be a problem he did not pursue it. To knowly say publicly he did not see Collin for a year & a half is just unacceptable to me. This has been discussed here heavily but in truth what parent wouldn't park there butt at the end of a driveway call the police & demand a visual at least? The prior conversation stating zip ties.. glad a poster found the article regarding that. I personally believe Collin refuses to go home. Why be around a mother who has singled him out blanetly...horrificly & with calculation? Think about maddi, Kate NEEDS her on her side, without her kate has no pull. I know this is all repetitive observations from some of you & I apologize for rambling. In closing I want to mention jon has been silent for 3 weeks on instagram & a month on twitter. No gig promos ... nothing. That is VERY telling ... seems like something is up. I certainly hope tlc reads their responses regarding khate & see that the public has dug their heels in the ground & have not let the "missing child" observation go. How on earth can you film this family in crisis & say nothing? I don't believe ONE SINGLE WORD khate tries to pawn off regarding Collin. What ever happen was BIG. VERY BIG. I personally hope he never goes back. He LIVED this hell. The reason I feel so strongly about that is he got / getting therapy for issues that were projected onto him from his mother. The problem with that is she is STILL the same evil, abusive, loveless person as when he left 2 birthdays ago. She does not deserve him in her life. Neither does Steve, Jamie , makeup lady, Jon or any other adult. THEY ALL FAILED HIM.
Confused said...
It's interesting that "sources" are always questioned when some flowery, gushing story appears in one of the lowly gossip mags, but when "sources" make the most scurrilous claims about Kate they eventually morph into accepted commentary.
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I've seen Kate in action. There is nothing genuinely "flowery" about how she treats her children.
I've read Kate's COPYRIGHTED journal, and the abuse her children received, and believe Kate to be capable of emotional, mental, and physical abuse. I read her own words about it.
I believe Kate is capable of zip-tying a child she feels is "unruly." I believe she would lock up a child to punish them. I believe she would deprive them of food.
Collin hasn't lived with her for over a year. That says a lot.
Maybe the boys had their wisdom teeth extracted. It would be odd to do that after braces are already on, but it would be odd to do any oral surgery after braces are on. I have to wonder what kind of insurance she has for dental/ortho. Ours covered a specific dollar amount for the whole family, so we ended up paying for a lot out of pocket. Our kids needed wisdom teeth extraction, spacers, and braces. It's expensive! We ended up paying out of pocket for some of them. Only one more to go. Whew! I wonder if she was hoping that TLC would film this and pay for it.
Confused said...
Free speech is great, but where are those who question the validity of such defamatory accusations?
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I don't personally find the accusations defamatory. I find them believable.
Kate is very capable of suing InTouch for libel, or defamation. She has sued for copyright, so we know she will sue if she has a case. She hasn't sued anyone for libel or defamation.
Braces, oral surgery, etc. if insurance doesn't pay for it I'm sure the kids' trust do. Kate pay out of HER personal money? Not a chance.
Jon already stated that the kids' trusts pay for all their expenses.
Exactly. It's interesting that "sources" are always questioned when some flowery, gushing story appears in one of the lowly gossip mags, but when "sources" make the most scurrilous claims about Kate they eventually morph into accepted commentary.
As I said above, I personally believe such information supplied to the rag mags came from the likes of those rabid haters we've seen on other venues. And for me those places lose all credibility because the remarks are not questioned. Free speech is great, but where are those who question the validity of such defamatory accusations?
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Yes and no. There have been several stories from sources about her, some nearly as outrageous, that turned out to be absolutely true.
With her, I've found that when it all shakes out, a whole heck of a lot of anonymous stories end up being true. That's just the way it's been. I don't know if she has a lot of people who don't like her who want to spill the beans to get back at her, or what the reason for this is. But, a whole heck of a lot of insider scoops turn out to be spot on correct, which is why I'm less likely to dismiss tabloid stories outright when it comes to this saga. Many of the stories have been surprisingly accurate.
NoChance said... 49
Thank you #39 I have read her for 6 years plus.
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Welcome! It's been great to see old faces and new ones, too!
What a great first post. You made so many great points.
I'm with you on Jon. I think he's a good dad in many ways, but I will NEVER understand why he allowed the whole "I get who I get" thing to fester. I will NEVER understand how he could not/did not see Colin for 2 years. I will NEVER understand Jon's actions right after the divorce.
SO agree Kate needs Mady in a very unhealthy way.
Jon not posting anything in a few weeks make me go "hmmmm", too.
TLC is a POS for filming this family through and since, and profiting off of their pain and crisis. Of course, no Kate, no filming, so it's ultimately on her.
I believe nothing Kate says about Colin. It's just word-shaped air anyway.
You're right about Colin coming home and nothing will have changed.
I don't think he'll ever sleep in his own bed, in the basement man cave again.
I think many of the "leaks" over the years have come from Kate's camp, so she could keep herself in the tabloids and generate interest for appearances and interviews to "set the record straight".
Textbook.
I will never forget how Kate treated Collin when he gave her that beautiful gift of a mama bear and her cub, representing him and Kate. Or the comments she made after-the-fact.
I will never forget when Collin said he wants to hug his mom but she won't let him.
There is NOTHING loving about Kate.
CC said (50)
Although we can believe Kate is capable of such atrocities, we do not know. The In Touch articles quote "a source." I do not find that enough information to make the leap that if a source said it, it's true.
As for Kate suing a rag mag for defamation, there are way more celebs who do NOT sue for what those crap mags print than do.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 54
But, a whole heck of a lot of insider scoops turn out to be spot on correct, which is why I'm less likely to dismiss tabloid stories outright when it comes to this saga. Many of the stories have been surprisingly accurate.
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That's not enough evidence to say it's so. And if a lot of insider scoops turn out to be true then the same can be said about the gaggingly positive stories that come out about Kate that are also from "sources."
That's not enough evidence to say it's so. And if a lot of insider scoops turn out to be true then the same can be said about the gaggingly positive stories that come out about Kate that are also from "sources."
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I didn't say it was enough evidence to say it is so, but I'm not going to throw it out as garbage either.
Some stories are true, some are not, and usually time will tell.
Some, we may never know. But I'm not about to discard a story unless proven otherwise like so many people did the first time a nanny spoke out about the child abuse. Big.....mistake to poo poo that one.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said (57)
I'm not saying you should throw out anything like it was garbage. I said, for ME, a sites lose credibility when they put out unprovable information and no one even questions it.
I'm not saying you should throw out anything like it was garbage. I said, for ME, a sites lose credibility when they put out unprovable information and no one even questions it.
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Well, it's not true that no one questioned it, so.
It's easy to believe negative stories about Kate because of the way she treats them on camera. When the show came back in 2014, she admitted that she doesn't let them win. Now we see her being very ugly--and very competitive--toward them. She is butting in on things that would be much more pleasant without her, just to keep the kids from getting more camera time and attention. Even fans are saying they would rather watch the kids without her. There was no good reason why she should have gone to space camp with the kids, other than her trying to make sure she gets more camera time. Then there are all the activities that would have been pleasant and fun to watch, but she barged in, pitched a fit, and ruined it. The tower jump, camping in Alaska, water tubing, parasailing, skiing, etc. Even the twins' 16th birthday had to be al about her and the amount of work she has to do. Or the "most fun activity ever"--that archery thing--none of the kids wanted her to participate but she wouldn't budge. And then she was demanding that the kids disrupt their fun to run around and collect arrows for her. Any other mom would be collecting arrows for their kids so that the kids would have more fun. Not this mother. She is manipulative, controlling, abusive, and now seems to be in competition with her kids. It's an ugly dynamic no matter how you look at it.
I'm wondering if TLC ever proposed doing a show with just the kids. She would never agree to that. She'd take the whole family off TV before she let the kids be on without her, no matter what viewers want. It's all about her.
Reading her IG ...when other mothers do sympathize with her regarding Collins absence they speak from personal experience of their child being in a full time facility. But the kicker is... new ppl don't get that khate abused .. & documented her accounts of it. So have many others INCLUDING the other kids whether it was to jon / teachers etc. His issues seem to be a product of his environment & believe they all stem from his mother. If he was in a different loving house vs his he would be a healthy minded child. So in closing some other parents are oblivious to his struggles brought on by his own mother.
Judging by the 3 episode season and the most recent picture, Kate must hate the fact that Joel seems to have Jon's body type.
Confused said... 58
CC said (50)
Although we can believe Kate is capable of such atrocities, we do not know. The In Touch articles quote "a source." I do not find that enough information to make the leap that if a source said it, it's true.
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To me this isn't JUST about what a source says, it's what we already KNOW about Kate that makes it ring true.
I believe it based on what I already KNOW FOR A FACT about Kate. I do KNOW that Kate is capable of such atrocities. Do I KNOW for a fact that she zip-tied Collin? No, but how much can anyone know for a fact? Unless you see something with your own eyes in person, or on camera, you can't really KNOW anything 100%.
You take the evidence and go with that. You can choose to believe the evidence was tampered with, or pics photoshopped, footage was faked, eyewitness testimony is wrong, accusers lied, on and on...
But I have no doubt that Kate is capable of the things she has been accused of.
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As for Kate suing a rag mag for defamation, there are way more celebs who do NOT sue for what those crap mags print than do.
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I'm not talking about other celebs. I'm talking about Kate. She does go the lawsuit route. She has in the past... but never for libel.
I agree CC ... hkate NOT ONE SINGLE TIME.. has sued any mag regarding libel. Someone on twitter called j woods a coke head & he took him to court & he settled. Khate has been deemed abusive a thousand times in print form. She has done ZERO to protect her reputation being called abusive. Why is that? I believe we know the answer.....
I believe Kate is capable of zip-tying a child she feels is "unruly." I believe she would lock up a child to punish them. I believe she would deprive them of food.
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Yes, I absolutely believe that she zip tied Collin and kept him in the basement, had to earn his way out because of Hannah telling Jon how she was treating Collin.
This is why this banchee went ape **** to get Hannah away from Jon. If Hannah told Jon that Collin was zip tied in the basement, he should of called the police. They could of found him like that.
But, I hope it is not true, but, she is a sadistic evil monster just by competing against the kids. I would not put anything past her.
A huge settlement went to either MTM or Carol Burnett for printing that she was out in public very drunk.
Remember that Halloween picture years ago, Steve was driving the kids around trick or treating and there is a picture of TFW all in her glory, knock out asleep. She looked like she was drunk the way she was slumped in the seat.
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