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| For years, Hannah has always been one of the most affectionate children toward Jon. |
Wednesday, August 23, 2017
Police called during brutal custody exchange of Hannah
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| For years, Hannah has always been one of the most affectionate children toward Jon. |
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nick_moy@miloandjack2016 I have reported this as a violation of Instagram community behaviour, and if they agree.. They will delete the comments and could as far as delete the account.. I see these people who are just totally blind with hatred, immaturity and a desperate desire to look smart, that they ignore the things their OWN mother did for them as Kate is doing for her children.. This is totally DISRESPECTFUL to their OWN mother's, as when they were born they did NOT know how to change their OWN diapers or wipe their OWN BUTTS.. cook for themselves, feed themselves, etc.. to stay alive.. We call these people USELESS ROTTEN EGGS.. This little girl, I told I live in a 5 million dollar house, and she assumed it was mine.. I didn't mention I owned it.. but she asked if I sold out my kids to afford it... You can see how these people see things that are not there.. and get carried away with their imaginations.. a few of us here are laughing our heads off at the level of stupidity this little THING has managed to achieve...
" I see these people who are just totally blind with hatred, immaturity and a desperate desire to look smart"
Seems like nick_moy is talking about himself.
Hi--I'll be popping in intermittently this weekend as we move our college kids back to their schools for the new academic year, but I wanted to take a moment to tell our posters in Harvey's path that I'm thinking of you and praying for your safety. Please check in and let everyone here know how you are doing. We care about you!
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Village Idiot nick_moy weighs in:
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Who on God's green earth is this? Is it Hole-in-Heart sheeple? Is there anyone who takes this person seriously? Is this the one who lived in the Dominion Republic? lol! Could it be Milo catfishing as someone else?
I just heard on the Weather Channel that it's now a CAT 4 with 130 mph winds. I've never been through a hurricane so I can't imagine how incredibly frightening (and dangerous) this could be.
And, BTW Milo, who was it that was egging Deanna on to spill dirt on Jon a couple of years ago?
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I'd forgotten about that Go Away Milo. The sheeple were in their glory(with Milo at the forefront) when the flavor of the month bestie, Deanna, was dishing on how Jon didn't give all the kids Christmas presents nor did he see all the kids. It was shortly after those posts that Deanna went private never to be heard from again. Doesn't TFW have new hair and makeup people now....most notably Uncle Ronnie! We speculated that Deanna was TFW's mouthpiece at the time and that she was slapped with a gag order due to the inflammatory statements made against Jon.
Keep going, nick! Hopefully, you'll get yourself banned.
nick_moy@miloandjack2016 I haven't looked at the offensive post, but I am looking into if there is an infringement of copyright laws and may be illegal.. if it is I hope she has a good lawyer.. also trying to insight hatred or violence is obviously illegal.. even a dumbass idiot knows that..
jpjt94@Miloandjack2016 Hey milo you say its wrong and totally insensitive for a father to do all those things and yet you have no problem when Kate did and does do all the things you accuse Jon of doing.What was Deanna when she tweet about the kids private relationship with Jon?Or how about when Kate clearly went to people magazine and talked about Collin's issues to gain publicly?When Kate does it,its ok and in your words BRAVE but when Jon does it its wrong?Double standards much?
The article about the lack of money is not surprising. TLC has made Kate into a monster giving her money and power and made sure Jon had nothing.
I'm glad to see Jon's brother's post on Facebook. He seems like a good guy like Jon. The family must feel so helpless. I hope the kids win this time. Kate has won for too long.
Prayers for those in the hurricane's path. I'm in Eastern NC, and we've had our share of hurricanes. We've been lucky, but people in other areas around here have not. Stay safe.
if it is I hope she has a good lawyer.. also trying to insight hatred or violence is obviously illegal.. even a dumbass idiot knows that..
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Does anyone else see the irony here?
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Is it possible nick_moy is Kate?
Khate has me blocked on IG. funnily enough, so does nick? I've never interacted with her/him. I can only see his/her posts when I look on IG anonymously ... Nooo. That would be too much.
How dare Milo question the motives of the GKids uncle. He and his family live this, unlike Milo who adores from afar and has zero idea what's really going on.
Nick Moy needs to keep her/his day job because a lawyer she/he is not. (and it's incite you moron)
Prayers for everyone in Harvey's path.
Hoosier Girl
nick_moy - I haven't looked at the offensive post, but (blah, blah, blah). For someone who hasn't even read the post, he/she is prepared for 'action'.
Yes, I now think Nick could be TFW.
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Hi all -- it has been raining very hard off and on all day with winds increasing. We are still a good distance from the storm, about a 4 hour drive away to Corpus Christi as it comes ashore. We have had multiple tornado warnings but no tornadoes yet, thank goodness. Things are expected to get much worse beginning later tonight and thru the weekend. We are safely tucked in at home and will be staying here until it's safe to get out. If we get as much rain as predicted, it is going to be really bad. My heart aches for those folks in Corpus who are just now feeling the true brunt of this major hurricane. From what we are hearing, we will be getting masses of rain and winds up to 40-45 mph. Just hoping against hope we don't lose power. Thanks for caring, I will update as time goes along. We are being told it may not clear the area until next Friday. Sheesh.
"A father and his relatives?" Pull your lips off of TFW'S rear end and read mine, Gladys. It's THEIR father, and THEIR relatives. You are NOTHING and NO ONE to Kate Gosselin. She wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire. Where was your attention from her when your husband was seriously hurt? She doesn't give a damn about you. And for you to repeatedly defend her, to the point you're directing total strangers to remove posts, really speaks to the extent of your obsession. If your heroine is the strong, forthright, upstanding woman you claim she is, she doesn't need you to fight her battles.
This is somewhat off-topic, but since Milo is the topic of quite a few posts, I'd like to share a personal story.
Several years ago there was a celebrity that I admired. Okay, on whom I had a crush. Like Milo, I thought he couldn't do anything wrong. Then, by a stroke of luck, I got to know him personally. I soon saw that he was human, not without flaws, as I could see up close and personal and realized that he wasn't a saint.
I still admired him, and continue to do so to this day. He's an incredible, talented person, warm, funny and personable, but I was able to see the whole picture. He was knocked down a peg or two off that pedestal I had set him on. I love him as a friend, but I'm not "in" love with him as Milo is with Kate. Why is it that there are some people who are able to do this and others, like Milo, who are so far into their love obsession that they will never open their eyes and admit that perhaps their love interest indeed is flawed? Could this be the reason why she doesn't want to meet Kate...because she is actually afraid that Kate isn't everything that Milo has believed and loved about her? Would she be able to see this or isn't she capable of any such scrutiny, and to accept it would be devastating to her? She has built her own little safe place, a warm and fuzzy cocoon and as far as she is concerned, she is Kate's protector and nobody else is allowed into that little fantasy world she's built for the two of them.
The psychology of it all is fascinating to me. I wonder just how much LOM and her children (if there are such people) know about her devotion to Kate. If they do know, do they care? Don't they wonder what is missing from Milo's life that she carries on like this over a person she doesn't know? Perhaps her entire family is dysfunctional, so Milo's behavior seems normal to them.
One can be happy and content in celebrity worship, but when a person is so far into it, it is indeed cause for concern.
Milo is entertaining, the court jester, a laughingstock, but in a way, she's to be pitied.
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Hi all -- it has been raining very hard off and on all day with winds increasing.
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Praying for you, Kylie, and everyone in the path of the wind and rain.
Please keep us updated if you can!
Cruisin', I think the psychology is fascinating too. For some reason some people have a hard time understanding that celebs are just people. Flaws and all, some with big flaws. For a variety of reasons, a lot of celebs have very selfish stop-at-nothing personalities, a quality that seems to make it easier to succeed in a very tough business. Kate certainly has that.
It really shows how susceptible some people are to fantasy. I have to wonder if it has to do with some fans being more childlike, as many of them seem to be. Children are much more easily fooled by celebs and often become big fans. Difference is most outgrow that phase.
"A father and his relatives?" Pull your lips off of TFW'S rear end and read mine, Gladys. It's THEIR father, and THEIR relatives.
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They always complain people who judge Kate aren't there and don't know her. Now when people come forward who are very aware of what is happening in this situation they've got to come up with some other excuse to discredit them.
I noticed that Ellen Ross 'liked' Jon's FB post. One thing you can't deny, and that's Jon continues amicable relationships with many of his exes, even Hailey Glassman.
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Right, because is there really much point in treating anyone you would just rather not live with anymore as a mortal enemy? I have lots of friends, doesn't mean I want them in my house all the time and have sex with them.
I remember Ellen was very supportive of him protecting the kids during a period when paps were very relentless. I am grateful for that period.
Jon's brother Mark can post what he wants because I believe we still have freedom of speech in this country.
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Exactly why it is so very, very important not to shut down speech. Even nasty "hate" speech. Is not Mark's statements technically "hate"? Arguably.
Mark can say whatever. he. WANTS. There are going to be people who hate what he has to say with every fiber of their being. That doesn't mean he shouldn't say it.
In a recent episode, Kate was driving the BBB and merrily asked "Who's going to visit Dad? The usual 4!".
See how smoothly everything goes? See how Kate lets THEM decide?
Nothing to see here...
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La, la, la, see how smoothly things go when it's not exactly going as per the usual, too???
Oh.....WAIT.
Also, WTH with Kate having a lawyer on speed dial, who is willing to drop everything in the middle of the day to dash over to Reading Orthodontic and threaten Jon with legal action?
That's weird, isn't it?
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It's weird.
Usually, we're, like, at work. With billable clients.
Layla said... 4
Hi--I'll be popping in intermittently this weekend as we move our college kids back to their schools for the new academic year, but I wanted to take a moment to tell our posters in Harvey's path that I'm thinking of you and praying for your safety. Please check in and let everyone here know how you are doing. We care about you!
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Yes! Praying for everyone in the Gulf Coast states! They said some places could get 50 inches of rain!!!
That is over 4 ft.!
A Nashville tv station had a live camera on the beach at Corpus Christi and the very tall palm tree was swaying aback and forth a couple of feet and it hasn't really kicked in at that point.
Please stay safe, posters!
It's too bad that in all these years, she couldn't manage to capitalize on her notoriety and have her own job in media.
Now, after the show has fizzled and is limping along, her brand is doing the same.
This is why people get out while they're still on top.
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Smart people, with restraint and self control.
It is ok for him to do this to find Natalie and bring her home! Who cares if he gets paid for it? Only God knows how much Dave and Beth and many, many friends have spent on dogs, land and sea searches and PI's and expenses trying to find out what happened to her and bring her home.
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The astronomical expenses of this never ending search I'm sure far exceed any money he has made. I don't think he's spending any money he's managed to make having a cocktail at the club.
Kate also wants to cross the finish line ALONE. She wants to lay claim to rescuing those kids after the divorce, giving them a lavish life, parenting them herself and getting them into college with no help from anyone.
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There's that fixed pie mentality again. If someone else is getting credit, she must be losing some. She's nuts.
We are being told it may not clear the area until next Friday. Sheesh.
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From what little I've had time to watch on the news they keep remarking how SLOW this hurricane is, just linger and lingering.
I am flying to Dallas a week from Sunday, is it still going to be crawling across the state then?
STAY SAFE. LISTEN TO AUTHORITIES.
What about Jon's family and anyone in the community that wanted to come, come together for a candle light vigil and prayers for the Gosselin kids.
They deserve to know that people really care and want to help them.
I was on youtube earlier and came across the ABC interview when TFW said with that smirk that she knew where Collin was. It was just so DIABOLICAL.
In her mind right then, the way she said it and how she looked when she said it was so arrogant and all about her being in control.
Hannah has been begging for 2 years to live with Jon. That is insane that a judge would let that go on for 2 years! I watched a episode of LAO:SVU and it was the one where they did the show about a Michael Jackson like guy and he settled with a boys family. The ADA asked the judge to appoint a GAL. The defense flipped out and the judge ordered a GAL and said it should of been done a long time ago.
All I could think about was the Gkids. They should of had one for the twins, one for the girls and one for the boys.
Cruisin' (#14), what I find particularly confounding about the fan worship of TFW is that she has no discernible skill or talent. I assume the celeb you were smitten with was good at something, which was probably part of your attraction to him. But with TFW, it's almost as if her lack of talent is part of her appeal. The fans can live vicariously through this ordinary "everywoman" who's gotten break after break.
I'll add my thoughts and prayers to all the Texas posters...stay safe, let us know how you are when you can. Everyone I know (neighbors, co-workers, family) are concerned about Texas and are praying for all of you.
Smart people, with restraint and self control.
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Just like the wonderful poster that chose to accept her son going and living with his dad and new wife and then the baby boy comes. That would be so hard. It takes a strong person to survive that ultimate betrayal.
But God blessed you for your patience. Everyone gets along and you have 2 sons now. It is incredible and very rare.
My great-aunt refused to give a Christmas or a birthday present to her granddaughter's half-sister because she wasn't blood kin. I thought it was horrible. She could of bought something inexpensive and nice for her so she wouldn't feel slighted.
but I am looking into if there is an infringement of copyright laws and may be illegal.. if it is I hope she has a good lawyer.. also trying to insight hatred or violence is obviously illegal.. even a dumbass idiot knows that..
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Nobody incited anything. Somebody finally decided after 10 years they would like to say that a whole lot of crap is going on. Not the same thing as shouting "fire!" in a crowded movie theater, as our Supreme Court defines it.
You don't take a family problem and go on social media and try to recruit the public to take your side in the matter all the while trying to villianize the mother who has provided the love, structure and all necessities of life for her kids pretty much on her own the last 8yrs or more! T
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I think it's kind of ballsy for Milo to tell people about themselves who, unlike her, actually know what's going on.
She's basically telling people who ACTUALLY know what goes on what she THINKS goes on. Like someone who has never seen the inside of my mouth telling me how many fillings I have. It's just funny to me.
Nick Moy's shtick seems to be decrying bullying, and then in the next sentence, bullying whoever said something she doesn't like. So I would label her a dumbass hypocritical idiot.
How does Milo dare to imply that we should NOT believe the words of police officers who were on the scene? Hannah CHOSE to go with her FATHER, in BOTH police reports.
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When police write those reports, they know they can and do get called down to testify under oath as to what it says in court. That's a pretty big motivator to be accurate. And, what reason do they have in this situation to not report it accurately? It's a stupid family law situation, and I doubt they have taken sides. Their job is to report what they saw and heard and then move the F on to the next call and then at some point go home to their families.
It's a nearly impossible task in court to try to prove that what was said in a police report was not accurate, as it should be.
Admin, would it be all right if Mark's post is copied over here?
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Sure I don't care.
She needs to shut the heck up and stay out of it! To question the credibility of tabloids is one thing, but to call police reports as untruths is just plain insane.
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It's a whole other level of ridiculousness.
I get it, I get it, tabloids have a motive to sell stories and so there could be a motive to exaggerate to sell.
What motive pray tell do to the police have? They're not "selling" police reports. They get paid the same whether the police report is exciting or boring. They didn't do anything wrong so they have no motive to try to spin things in their favor.
Poor Steve on Fox won't get back inside to the garage on Corpus Christi. Shawn Hannity is telling him to get back inside. He's going to get smacked in the face with something.
Cruisin' (#14), what I find particularly confounding about the fan worship of TFW is that she has no discernible skill or talent. I assume the celeb you were smitten with was good at something, which was probably part of your attraction to him.
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Absolutely, still is, and not a D-lister, but a well-known person, I think you're correct, though, that part of my fascination with him was because he was so well-known, recognizable and talented and not only in this country, but world-wide.
Kate has nothing. Why is Milo in love with her? What does she have that Milo lacks and wants?
Admin brought up an interesting point. Many, such as Milo, want to live vicariously through the celebrity, but why choose someone so mediocre? Is it because they could never get the attention of an important celebrity and have to settle on someone who is at least approachable? They both seem to be child-like, so I wonder if water seeks its own level.
Admin brought up an interesting point. Many, such as Milo, want to live vicariously through the celebrity, but why choose someone so mediocre? Is it because they could never get the attention of an important celebrity and have to settle on someone who is at least approachable? They both seem to be child-like, so I wonder if water seeks its own level.
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Frankly, I think a lot of celebs are smart enough to just not engage with nuts like Milo. They would see it right away and ignore.
Kate isn't able to see it, engaged with them a lot, and yes fans like Milo are going to latch onto that and hard. They're not going to get this level of feedback from most celebs. It's a snowball effect.
Who says Dave or his wife even spent any money trying to find her remains?
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Who says they didn't? I mean, is there evidence they bought a mansion, new cars, etc? I don't follow this that closely.
But, unless somebody has clear evidence they are exploiting this situation, I'd rather assume there's nothing nefarious going on here.
The news is scaring me and I rarely get there. They are projecting 53 inches of rain in some parts. How is that possible? People need to get out and now.
@Admin Even IF the media was out to get celebrities why would they target a D list one?Kate isn't that relevant anymore,it'd be a waste of time to try and ruin Kate's career(if you can call it that)and i dont see any journalist caring about Kate.
Admin (#34), c'mon, now, Gladys is right. You don't go to social media with your family problems. Not enough eyeballs. TFW could tell her the best places to go are the Today show, or People magazine. Or, if you're lucky enough to have your own TV show, just talk about them during your couch interviews.
Yes! Kate has always reminded me of Betty Broderick in that Kate believes all of her behavior towards Jon and others who will not bend to her will is justified just as Betty Broderick did and still does to this day. In fact, I just picked up two interlibrary loan books on Betty Broderick today.
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BINGO. I think people get very wrapped up in the murder and ignoring that there is a whole other piece to this story and that is obsession that is very informative.
Most obsessed ex's never murder their ex. But they can be just like Betty Broderick.
Regarding Gladys...
I wonder if so much of her fascination with Kate is because Kate makes her feel needed and useful, and therefore she has set herself up as Kate's protector and defender. It really is sad, isn't it?
But still, why Kate of all people? They both appear to be on the same level, both intellectually and mental. Maybe Milo identifies with that.
I was trying to see if I could fix some typos (damn you auto correct!) and deleted my comment instead.
If you're in the path of the hurricane or getting the winds and rain, stay safe. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Having grown up in a beach town I know how devastating hurricanes and Nor'easters can be!
Admin, for most of those people in the 50 inch area, it is too late to get out. Harvey has come ashore and the Corpus area is getting slammed. Unfortunately, they are stuck. I fear what we may see on the news in the morning.
My heart goes out to the people in Texas. A woman who decided to stay said she just couldn't leave her pets, even to hunker down at a shelter. That would be me. I'd never leave the dogs and cats alone.
What is of the most concern is the duration of this thing and the impact all of the rain will have long-term. The weather fellow covering this live is having difficulty standing up as the storm comes on shore. It won't follow suit of other hurricanes that weaken, but will continue to pound the area for days.
Texans -- you're in our thoughts and prayers.
Most obsessed ex's never murder their ex. But they can be just like Betty Broderick.
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Or, tragically, they hire someone to do the deed.
TFW could tell her the best places to go are the Today show, or People magazine. Or, if you're lucky enough to have your own TV show, just talk about them during your couch interviews.
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You could also write a book and call it "I Just Want You To Know."
Milo is an idiot.
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Cruisin' (#14), what I find particularly confounding about the fan worship of TFW is that she has no discernible skill or talent. I assume the celeb you were smitten with was good at something, which was probably part of your attraction to him. But with TFW, it's almost as if her lack of talent is part of her appeal. The fans can live vicariously through this ordinary "everywoman" who's gotten break after break.
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Her life skills, abilities and creative thinking really stunk on CA.
She was helpless and clueless from day one.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 41
Who says Dave or his wife even spent any money trying to find her remains?
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Who says they didn't? I mean, is there evidence they bought a mansion, new cars, etc? I don't follow this that closely.
But, unless somebody has clear evidence they are exploiting this situation, I'd rather assume there's nothing nefarious going on here.
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Seriously? This just makes me ill.
As dedicated Beth and Dave have been trying to find Natalie, everything has been above board! In the 12 years of trying to bring her home for a proper burial, there has not been anything about any impropriety at all.
Not one word.
They are the type of people that would walk around with a dollar in their pocket for the rest of their lives to have their daughter found and brought back home.
I know I would.
Jordan van der Sloot tried to extort 50k from Beth and he would tell her where Natalie was. The FBI was involved and charged him with extortion and a charge of wire transfer and when he gets out of prison from South America, he will be extradited to the US and arrested.
Her defense attorney said it was Macy's fault because they have a lenient return policy.
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Lol, creative!
Hannah DOES have a GAL assigned now. I asked Jon in direct message.
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If a child does have an attorney and/or guardian ad litem now, that may have a huge role in why it's 50-50 now.
The way TFW's hard-core supporters (I think the dozen are now down to 3) slam Jon just shows their lack of concern for the G kids. Let's say Jon really was the skirt-chasing douchey man-child they always claimed he was. But now he's got steady work, is in a long-term, stable relationship, and is ready, willing and able to step up to the plate and be a better father to his children. Wouldn't that be a GOOD thing? We've heard TFW lament that she's had to be both mother and father to her children. Wouldn't it be a POSITIVE change for her to be able to share the burden? And most importantly, wouldn't having a more traditional 2-parent lifestyle bring some peace and stability to the hearts of those kids, who have suffered from that contentious divorce for almost a decade? And yet the fans are hell bent on keeping the "struggling single mom" narrative going, and keep their beloved up on a pedestal.
Admin (#55), whoa, I think it's gonna be a smidge trickier for TFW to keep up her hap-hap-happy family nonsense with a GAL in the picture.
She must be terrified that the house of cards is about to collapse.
I did an 18 month service as a guardian ad litem/minor's attorney back in 2015. It was great and very educational. I wanted to do it to understand that perspective and all of the issues involved from that standpoint. Met some amaze kids. Was so proud to say what I did.
Thankfully it never happened to me, but a lot of GALs/attorneys were stalked, harassed, intimidated by parents who were not happy with what the GAL was advising the judge.
Someone even had to get a restraining order.
The way TFW's hard-core supporters (I think the dozen are now down to 3) slam Jon just shows their lack of concern for the G kids. Let's say Jon really was the skirt-chasing douchey man-child they always claimed he was. But now he's got steady work, is in a long-term, stable relationship, and is ready, willing and able to step up to the plate and be a better father to his children. Wouldn't that be a GOOD thing?
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Right. For argument's sake, let's assume he was once a terrible father and has now come around. Most kids are thrilled when their dad becomes more involved and quickly move on from any past transgressions. This is WAY better than never having a father there for you at all, and they are all still relatively young where it really matters.
This is not the same thing as not trusting a former bank robber. He's their father, and whatever he can offer them in the moment is surely better than Kate's idea that he does not deserve a chance to offer anything at all. That is extremely selfish and spiteful, and not in her children's best interest. I don't care if SHE doesn't want to move on, but she owes it to her kids to give them a chance to do so.
It's so good to hear that H has a GAL. Finally, someone who is there to represent Hannah's best interests ONLY. The most important person in all this mess is Hannah. Not Kate, and not Jon.
I wonder when this GAL was assigned. The shared custody order came about on August 11th, so I would guess the GAL was already involved. It looks like this current situation has been ongoing for awhile. I also wonder if the GAL is one of the reasons why TLC didn't renew K+8. If someone is looking out for one (or more) of the kids' interests, it would be harder for TLC and Kate to take advantage of the kids, to deny them on-set support, and to force them to work long hours or when they are sick or when H has one of her headaches.
I also wonder if H went on vacation with Kate and the other kids to NC this summer. I saw 4 pictures from that trip--she definitely wasn't shown in the ones taken at a restaurant (where we spotted Steve and his magic blue shirt). She wasn't in the one of Kate with the dog, of course. The other one appeared to be 4 of the tups in the water--two with Kayaks. Four of the kids, not 5. Of course, she may have escaped being photographed, but it's also possible that she was able to stay home with her dad. Don't know for sure, of course, but it's possible.
I bet it's driving Kate nuts to have someone else making decisions for HER kids. She has always believed that whatever she wants for the kids is what is best for them, and nobody else has any right to contradict her. Now, if more kids beside H also have GAls, that could just push her over the edge.
It seems Hannah is the only one of the G kids to have some form of maturity and insight. It must wear on her emotions the fact that Colin is no longer in the house, and I doubt he will ever be again. I hope that a few more will follow her and get a more peaceful life. It also seems that Mady wouldn't mind at all if the younger kids left that house.
Admin (#59), you said TFW "owes it to her kids," and I think that's where we all get tripped up. She in no way thinks she owes anything to her kids. It's the kids who owe something to HER. Even her blather about their "golden platter" childhoods had a selfish undertone: she just wanted the kudos for providing it. Something snapped in her during those 423 weeks of bed rest. I really think that's part of her sense of entitlement. It's always been all about her. And as she would say, "and that's never gonna change."
AuntieAnn, if you are out there, I just wanted to say hello, and hope you are hanging in there. I suppose you have good days and bad days, but I hope to see your name here again soon when you're up to posting.
The GAL may be the reason Kate seems to be escalating. It gets really darn hard to control a family law case when there is a third party involved. A good GAL is going to have the ear of the judge and can change the course of the case.
All the money in the world didn't make any difference to me as a GAL. I get paid the same whether I recommend what you want to the judge or not.
A GAL would absolutely be able to weigh in on filming as well. If there is something going on at one house that is upsetting to a child, they can recommend the judge order that parent to stop doing so. That would include filming.
More and more I think TLC's Dear John letter had to do with slithering out ahead of the family law case imploding. Getting out ahead of the game is way better than a headline that a judge ordered them to stop filming. They knew this was going on, I'm certain of it.
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FlimsyFlamsy said... 30
Cruisin' (#14), what I find particularly confounding about the fan worship of TFW is that she has no discernible skill or talent. I assume the celeb you were smitten with was good at something, which was probably part of your attraction to him. But with TFW, it's almost as if her lack of talent is part of her appeal. The fans can live vicariously through this ordinary "everywoman" who's gotten break after break.
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Her life skills, abilities and creative thinking really stunk on CA.
She was helpless and clueless from day one.
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Wasn't it someone on this board--maybe admin?--who said Khate had her 1/4 Korean, 3 boys, 3 girls, HOM babies at the perfect time in the history of reality television? And was actually struck twice by lightning when TLC brought her show back after it's first cancellation?
When you think of all the chances she had, but squandered, to expand her brand beyond just being the mother of twins and sextuplets into a sustainable TV career, it's sickening. But not surprising. Look at it this way---she went to nursing school (is there even an interview anywhere in which she mentions wanting to help people who were suffering?) to land a doctor, but settled for a dentist's son. Check. Had twins, then HOM's. Check. Obtained fame & fortune by a little TV show on TLC. Check. Check. Ka-ching!! In Khate's mind, her work is done and the American public should continue to venerate her until her or our dying day(s). Because she was too lazy to put in any further work on either a TV career for just herself or work thru her issues with Jon enough to successfully co-parent with him as well as her failure to realize her children might want to spend increased amounts of time with their father, the brand she was left with is that of the put upon, exhausted, single parent. Well, America got tired of the one trick pony show, especially after one of the bit (in her mind) players was shipped off to whereabouts unknown. No wonder she's in a panic as shown by her recent behavior.
I will give her and/or her adviser Skeevie a thumbs up for finally realizing that a gag order means just that. With the exception of the one "Kate's heart rocks" article that didn't get picked up, she's keeping her mouth shut in the media. It must be hell at home to some extent, but she has to be careful or even more of the kids will defect.
Jordan van der Sloot tried to extort 50k from Beth and he would tell her where Natalie was. The FBI was involved and charged him with extortion and a charge of wire transfer and when he gets out of prison from South America, he will be extradited to the US and arrested.
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He is in prison for murder. How long is his sentence?
I wonder if the situation with the G kids will be looked at closer now that H refuses to go with Kate and that C is no longer residing in the house. So basically that is 2 of the 6. One who rebelled and the other for whatever reason. I think this is just the beginning. If the other 2 girls also go with Jon, I wonder if the 2 boys will go also. They just seem to roll with the punches and are incredibly sweet.
So old Nutty Nick doesn't actually OWN a multi-million dollar property, but just lives in one! Sounds like she picked up Katespeak and learned from the best.
More likely it's a condo complex or apartment building. Makes the 11 parking places seem plausible.
Where does stolen avatar sheeple live? Condo? Apartment?
Can you imagine if Jon ends up with full custody (due to some of the kids wishes) and Kate ends up having to pay child support? OMGosh, her head would explode. No job and having to write a big ol' check every month? Maybe she'll get a taste of what Jon felt like when he got hammered with a $22,000 a month bill. And to note, I don't know how I feel about her having to pay him, while I of course think parents should pay for their kids, he didn't pay (or at least much) over the years, so I don't know if becomes a wash? Admin., maybe you would know?
Blowing (#68), for all we know, Nick lives in one of the 11 parking spaces. Her stories change on the regular, and she is clearly not who she says she is.
I hope the GAL sees that the other kids need his/her services or their own GAL too. I also assume the GAL talks to Jon and will hear about Hannah's account of Collin's 'punishments' rand whatever else she revealed about her mother and living in that house to Jon.I also hope the other kids tell the truth and don't protect TFW due to fear or bribery or brainwashing.
Don't forget that Kate isn't going to care for the dogs by herself
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I wonder if Hannah is seeking to hedge against being sent away like Collin.
Doing that without Jon must be taken off the table for good.
Formerly Duped (#71), I'm hoping a competent GAL would be able to see through any sugar coating of their home life from the kids. I'm no professional, but even I knew when Mady described her father as "toxic" that it was a word she'd gotten from her mother. Coaching comes through loud and clear.
Here in New Braunfels, TX it is raining with wind that sometimes has a sturdy gust. Our neighbors are staying inside their homes.
We need the rain. They predict it will continue to rain until Tuesday. We have some low streets flooded, but that happens with any hard rain and those areas are well-marked.
My son in Houston is getting more rain and sustained high winds.
So far, only the costal towns have scary damage. We are watching the news intently.
If Hannah's got a GAL, I imagine at a minimum K8 will be forced into therapy with Hannah ASAP in order to defuse what seems to have become a powderkeg situation. And she's not gonna like that much. She may try to refuse, but if she won't participate, my guess is she risks losing custody of this one child and perhaps opens the door to the judge insisting on a more extensive evaluation of the others. And that would likely be the end of teevee for her.
Funny, I find I have not a scintilla of sympathy for her. This situation was 100% avoidable on her part. She needs to stop taking her own advice.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 57
Admin (#55), whoa, I think it's gonna be a smidge trickier for TFW to keep up her hap-hap-happy family nonsense with a GAL in the picture.
She must be terrified that the house of cards is about to collapse.
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Betcha she's got the happy upper in the shop getting it ready for bear.
Those poor kids!
GAL!?! Answered prayers!!!
Dmasy...one of my brothers lives in New Braunfels and he said also the coastal area is where it is scary and so much damage to deal with. My nephew is in San Antonio and he said they are getting high winds and rain. I live in New England, so we deal with Hurricanes and Nor'easters quite a bit, but it looks like Texas really got hammered. Cruise ships are heading to New Orleans to resupply and hope to be able to get back to Galveston Tuesday or so where the passengers can leave the ships and go home. My prayers are with all the people who are suffering from this.
Glad you checked in, Dmasy!
Dmasy (#74), good to hear from you. It sounds scary no matter where you are.
Kylie (#14), I hope your family is safely indoors, and that you didn't lose power.
I wonder if the GAL would make the effort to watch some of the K+8 episodes to see what he/she could glean about the family dynamics. Remember, TFW said it was the "realest reality," and that "what you see is what you get." I imagine it would give the GAL pause to see H suffering with a migraine, yet dragged along for a shopping trip she did not need to be a part of.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 81
I wonder if the GAL would make the effort to watch some of the K+8 episodes to see what he/she could glean about the family dynamics. Remember, TFW said it was the "realest reality," and that "what you see is what you get." I imagine it would give the GAL pause to see H suffering with a migraine, yet dragged along for a shopping trip she did not need to be a part of.
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I have said this for years that the original DVD's that were sold will be a collectors item because when you look for a particular incident, it has magically disappeared.
Psychology classes will want them for studies.
Example: Collin and his lovey bear. We all remember how volitale she was at the sink screaming that she was going to throw his lovey bear in the trash. Now she looks like a little bit miffed about having to scrub for hours trying to get it off.
She basically frightened that poor little boy out of his skin. She said later that she didn't throw it out and laughed it off. I believe she did throw it out and lied for damage control.
She got rid of Collin, so a bear with a micro dot of gum on it is no biggie.
It says a lot that the judge only decided to issue a shared custody order after this GAL became involved. Jon has been fighting for more custody for years, and only now did anything positive come of it. That means nobody was listening to Hannah or the other kids.
We were discussing the statement from the TLC producer--how she talked about "schedules, including the Gosselins'". We all knew that there was no issue at all with the Gs schedules. Kate would never allow the kids' activities to interfere. But with a GAL involved, they can't force the kids to work endless hours, while sick, in their rooms/beds, etc or someone will have to answer for it. For the first time, there is accountability. So the "schedule" they were talking about, I think, was with regard to the GAL/upcoming court case. Once those are over (assuming Kate wins), they could start filming again. Kate has to be enraged that Jon was able to curtail her exploitation of the kids. This is costing her hundreds of thousands of dollars of filming money, and she knows it. Also--I bet that this GAL is also the reason why TLC cut this season so short. They probably had a full summer of filming planned, but once someone stepped in to look out for the kids, they couldn't (or wouldn't) change to a schedule that is not so brutal for the kids. So they decided to just stop filming. How sad that they refuse to comply with family-friendly filming. If they can't use and abuse the kids as they wish, then TLC isn't interested. And Kate couldn't care less about how they are treated as long as they are making her money.
As I have said before, there is not much more of the kids' childhoods she has left to sell. She wants to use every second of it.
Flimsey, we are all tucked in and still have power. It rained and rained with gusts of wind all night and most of this morning but I haven't been outside to see up close. I don't think we have any damage yet. I was reading that the 100% chance of heavy rains begin around 1 am. I have a friend that lives in a huge lovely home about 1 hour away and they are taking things upstairs as they have been advised the Brazos River is going to take over their home. It's so overwhelming when this happens. Thanks again for thinking of us. We are good at this point.
Foxy, your brother lives in New Braunfels! Perhaps our paths have crossed and I don't know it.
Our little subdivision is on the Guadalupe River. We are high above the river on our side. The other bank is much lower and water will spread that direction. They are predicting that the river will rise to an all new high. Foxy's brother will know what I mean when I say Bubba's Big Deck may just loose the remainder of the building. (
Foxy's brother will smile at the mention of Bubba's.)
I hope the poster who said Hannah has a GAL is correct. Someone would be listening. About time.
Dmasy....I will mention Bubba's to my brother. He has a great sense of humor.
Layla said... 83
We were discussing the statement from the TLC producer--how she talked about "schedules, including the Gosselins'". We all knew that there was no issue at all with the Gs schedules. Kate would never allow the kids' activities to interfere. But with a GAL involved, they can't force the kids to work endless hours, while sick, in their rooms/beds, etc or someone will have to answer for it. For the first time, there is accountability. So the "schedule" they were talking about, I think, was with regard to the GAL/upcoming court case.
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I so agree with your comments re: TLC bailing because of the GAL/upcoming court case. But maybe I'm too optimistic because I just can't see Khate winning this round in the absence of Jon being any obvious danger to the kids, etc., not having a steady job etc. AND assuming the evidence of Hannah's information is compelling enough to warrant a change in custody.
I'm still reading Until The Twelfth of Never, the book about the case of Dan and Betty Broderick. Just like Betty, Khate has now been "presented with her new reality" but it remains to be seen what she will do with it.
Trying to help Katie out with her new show title:
Kate's in a Fix She's down to Six
Ain't no Jive Kate's only got Five
Kate's rotten to the core, but she's still got Four
Hoosier Girl
Kylie (#84), glad you're okay, and knock wood things will be all right after the rest of the rain.
Boy, I bet TFW misses the days she could just steer the kids around by their heads. She may need to up her spa visits to twice a month, poor baby.
The GAL and judge really just have to watch the last half-dozen or so episodes to see just how much angst K8 inspires in her kids and how off the rails she appears to be when they're trying to create that "chaotic fun." What a window into her behavior those will provide.
Hoosier Girl, lol at the possible show titles!
Someone posted this on Kate's personal FB page:
XXXXX Berks county is a corrupt joke of a domestic relations court. I'm going through the same thing as him in the same court. My daughter expresses how much she wants to live with me and her mother had 2 pages of complaints against her with children and youth from numerous people ones I don't even know and they still think i shouldn't have custody of my daughter and still refuses to send her mother for drug testing. That court system is a an anti male, corrupt, money hungry greedy bankrupt joke. They have over 6000 complaints or lawsuits against them just in family court since 2008
Sounds like there are some issues there.
Radar has the police reports for the incident at the orthodontist's office. The first report is about the incident between Kate and Jon. The second is about Jon calling them regarding being threatened by Kate's "lawyer" friend. This first report says:
"Resolved with involved subject(which is Kate) being escorted out of business due to being disruptive"
So for Milo and nick_moy, here's your proof that it was Kate who caused the problem.
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2-jon-gosselin-custody-battle-kate-gosselin-daughter-hannah-gosselin-police-report-docs.pdf
Kate's Got Three, Lordy, Bee!
Maybe Kate's "chaotic fun" isn't so much fun for the kids. From the recaps and clips I have seen there is a lot of yelling, whining, and complaining from Kate. And H has called her out on it. Wasn't she the one who said that every time they have an event, Kate whines and complains and says, "I don't want to do this!". And I read a comment about putting together patio furniture and how Kate was whining about not being able to build things because she's a girl. It seems Can-Do Kate can't really do much of anything.
I talked recently with my Aunt Win, who used to be a big fan of the show. She stopped watching because of C, and this was before any news of his banishment or issues came out. Anyway, she said she watched a recent episode, and it disgusted her because Kate is still such an attention whore. It was the episode with the pink dog (13th birthday?), and she said Kate was running along from place to place with this dog on a short leash so that every shot of the dog included her. You could say that she kept Nanuq on a leash so she wouldn't jump on the kids and maybe knock someone down, but at the same time one of the male dogs was running and jumping around among the kids--with no leash. Why a leash for one large dog and not the other? Because the pink dog was the center of attention and Kate had to make sure that she was a part of that attention and every one of the camera shots. I think she (Aunt Win) is right.
This comment is from two days ago in Jons post
Jon I saw Colleen's post earlier. I am so sorry for you and your kids. Keep fighting for them!!!
I found the full print article that appeared in In Touch Weekly about Jon and Kate's confrontation over Hannah. It has the whole conversation between Jon, Kate and Hannah. Scroll over to the right, it's the fifth article. To read the whole article, click on the green arrow at the bottom of the third column.
I have to say the conversation between Kate and Jon is quite disturbing, especially on Kate's end.
A few excerpts:
"Hannah (to Kate): No! Stop, please, stop! Let go of me, Mommy! Kate: We don’t want Daddy to get arrested! Jon (watching Kate trying to remove Hannah from the car): I won’t get arrested!"
Hannah (screaming): Mom, stop! Kate: You have brothers and sisters who need to see you! You will be fine. Hannah (screaming): Mom, please don’t! No! Jon (to Hannah): Fight it…. Kate: We will get you to therapy and you will visit both of us just like you want.
Jon: If you don’t want to go…. Hannah (screaming): No! Kate: But it is my week. Jon (to Hannah): Keep on fighting it! Hannah (screaming at Kate): No! Stop! Stop! Jon: Fight it! Kate: I’m going to pull you out of the car."
https://www.pressreader.com/usa/in-touch-usa/20170901/textview
If Admin. wants, I can paste the whole article here, but it's quite long. BTW, in order to copy any part of the article, click on the square box at the right top of the article, and then click copy. You can than copy as you would normally do.
KIAT (#94), Gladys and Nick would just claim that TFW had to make a scene to make sure her child's best interests were being served. That poor H was duped by her father into wanting to go with him, but that she really wanted to go with her mommy.
How in the world could wimpy boy Jon know what's best? And that TFW would move heaven and earth to do the right thing for H, and all the kids -- well, at least the ones she still has under her roof.
Remember when TFW referred to Jon once as "certain ones?" Something like, certain ones think they should have a say in "her" kids' welfare?
They're Jon's kids, too. Always have been, always will be.
I was reading one of these latest articles and have to wonder why Alexis does not see Jon. I think she would like to, based on her demeanor on the show with him. Is Kate stopping her? I read Jon thought the four who he does see banded together to visit him, so why leave Alexis out? She gets along with the boys and I'm sure she would enjoy the kind of day Jon arranges for the kids.
Formerly Duped said... 100
I was reading one of these latest articles and have to wonder why Alexis does not see Jon. I think she would like to, based on her demeanor on the show with him. Is Kate stopping her? I read Jon thought the four who he does see banded together to visit him, so why leave Alexis out? She gets along with the boys and I'm sure she would enjoy the kind of day Jon arranges for the kids.
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Isn't it because Alexis goes to special classes on Saturday? I also think Khate has discouraged Alexis from going to Jon's as Alexis may be on medication and she does not want Jon to know this.
Glad to hear that our friends in TX are safe. My thoughts are with you.
Thanks to "Kate is a twit" @ 98 for that info. I've just read the article - it is heartbreaking - I can't imagine how Hannah must have felt - I hope she realizes Jon is not going to abandon her - I'm glad that a GAL has been appointed for her and hopefully the court will rule for Hannah, in Jon's favour.
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Thanks for the link, KIAT. Wow! Kate says she will take her to therapy? And then she can visit both of them? Very odd. I will guess that Hannah didn't want to go with Kate because she didn't believe her. And that's not surprising, given that Mommy makes her living off of pretending to be what she is not. Sad, sad story.
Layla (#96), you should send your Aunt Win our way. She sounds like a 15 Minutes kind of gal! Her leash theory makes sense to me. And by now, TFW is an expert in keeping things on a short leash.
flimsyFlamsy (105)
I'll have to tell her about this blog. She's a retired teacher (40 years!) so she picked up on Collin's difficulties very early. She really liked the show at one time--she had it listed under her favorite TV shows on Facebook for years--but then couldn't stand to watch a child who was obviously struggling being forced to film. She has a lot of experience with kids who have learning and behavioral issues, and she knew right away that C should not be in front of a camera.
Kate said (in the article KIAT posted a link for) that she'll let H visit both parents. Hannah doesn't want that. She obviously wants to live with her dad. Kate is thrilled to report that the twins don't want to be with their dad, and she doesn't feel they need any therapy. In fact, she was crowing from the rooftops about it. So why would Hannah need therapy for wanting to live with her dad? Kate must think that any child who doesn't want to be with Jon is just fine, but any child who doesn't want to be with her needs therapy.
Kate is going to regret having set a precedent that if a kid doesn't want to go with you during your custody, they can choose not to go. It works both ways as Hannah has figured out.
nivk_moy is just hysterical! She (it is definitely hole-in-the-heart Marie/Border Collies) brags that she is leading someone around by a leash because the other person is "So blinded by hate" that they thought the boast about nick_moy's house meant n_m owns it. But if you read what the other person said. "I bet you didn't sell out your kids to pay for it"--she does not say that n_m owns the house. By paying for it, that could mean ownership, rental, or any number of other financial transactions. I guess n_m is so blinded by hate and stupidity herself that she is seeing things that are not there.
It's also not a coincidence that just when it's posted here that if n_m is so rich that she has a $5M house, then she can pay Kate's legal fees, n_m comes up with some ridiculous excuse about how she doesn't own the place. Every time n_m/Marie/Border Collies gets called on an outrageous lie, she changes identities. But we still know it's her.
Blowing in the Wind-- Joran Van Der Sloot was sentenced to 28 years in prison for the murder of Stephanie Flores.
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Oh ! Thanks, forgot about the Saturday classes- what are they for again- remedial help or something? But Alexis could go Tuesday for dinners and after the classes on the weekend. Seems odd. But this latest incident, as awful as it was, may have paved the way for freeing all the kids for seeing Jon.
IMO Hannah should go to therapy WITHOUT Kate present, so that she can be free to open up to the therapist and tell him/her exactly what's going on. If Kate was there, she'd dismiss whatever H says and gaslight her.
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A therapist will make sure and speak to her w/out the parent in the room.
Wow. Sounds like kate and Jon are alternating weekly with Hannah. I will say I don't like the way he was encouraging her to not go though. If it's Kate's week he should not be encouraging her to fight. I went through this with my dad and not wanting to go to her dads. I couldn't physically get her into the car and would call and tell him she was refusing but I never encouraged her to refuse.
Did H wind up going with k that time? If not that would throw the weeks off and could account for how vague the order was?
Jillygee (#112), and a decent therapist would see right through TFW's clap-clap "use your words" coaching in a heartbeat.
Every time n_m/Marie/Border Collies gets called on an outrageous lie, she changes identities. But we still know it's her.
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She's nuts, and I think everyone knows it.
Jane said... 79
Glad you checked in, Dmasy!
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Yes! I remember that Dmasy moved to Texas, but I couldn't remember where. I was thinking about her last night.
KIAT...Milo will say that the police reports lied and that Robert and Jon put them up to it. Watch for it.
@Layla That was me that said that.Another thing is if Nick is so rich why does he waste so much time getting into internet battles over haters of a D list celebrity?Even now hes still commenting on Kate's IG complaining about Jon.Like dude if you live in a 5 million house shouldn't you be extremely busy working at wherever the hell he said he works at,the dominican republic? nick_moy As far as I am concern Kate have and IS providing a stable environment for the kids, and Jon over the years have still NOT grown up or matured and still behaves like a spoiled kid and have not forgotten how to push Kate's buttons... Maybe.. I don't know.. but Kate should be paid for the last 3 episodes now.. Maybe he's back to get some money.....
I doubt this will be posted either but would it be inappropriate to attempt to contact this attorney to offer some type of donation? I would be willing if it would help to send some money for Jon to help in the attorney fees.
That was me that said that.Another thing is if Nick is so rich why does he waste so much time getting into internet battles over haters of a D list celebrity?Even now hes still commenting on Kate's IG complaining about Jon.Like dude if you live in a 5 million house shouldn't you be extremely busy working at wherever the hell he said he works at,the dominican republic
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One can be rich, but still be bored and lonely. Nick is not of the male gender nor is she rich. My bet is on the Pitt-in-the Basement sheeple, and I don't think that she lives in the Domion (sic) Republic. Didn't she say she worked or volunteered there at one time?
Localyocul said... 113
Wow. Sounds like kate and Jon are alternating weekly with Hannah. I will say I don't like the way he was encouraging her to not go though.
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Hannah might very well be afraid. I doubt Kate is very pleasant after these sorts of encounters. She wasn't reluctant to put her hands on the child in front of the police and her ex. Why would she show more restraint in private?
"Kate must think that any child who doesn't want to be with Jon is just fine, but any child who doesn't want to be with her needs therapy."
I don't even know Kate, but reading about her makes me need therapy.
Localyocul said... 113
Wow. Sounds like kate and Jon are alternating weekly with Hannah. I will say I don't like the way he was encouraging her to not go though. If it's Kate's week he should not be encouraging her to fight. I went through this with my dad and not wanting to go to her dads. I couldn't physically get her into the car and would call and tell him she was refusing but I never encouraged her to refuse.
Did H wind up going with k that time? If not that would throw the weeks off and could account for how vague the order was?
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Of course the written account of these events is open to interpretation, but it almost sounds like Hannah decided she was not going home period. If they were in court on August 11th, a Friday, and the judge ordered temporary 50/50 custody at that time. It's not clear when it was to start, but assuming Hannah was with Jon for that weekend, she was still with Jon on the following Tuesday? Why did Jon agree to come to the drop-off location on August 15th when the police called him if he thought it was his custody week/time? He could have just as easily said no and forced Khate to go back into court the next day if Hannah was refusing to return to Khate's house. I hope Jon didn't manipulate the situation in order to get into a public showdown with Khate. I can also see Hannah deciding she was going to spend the last bit of her summer vacation with Jon before school started.
A very frightening night. We have had 13 inches of rain in 3 hours. We still have power but the water is half way to the house. Along with the 8 and 3/4 inches we had previous to this makes us at 21 3/4 inches.
Kylie said... 122
A very frightening night
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Hoping you are ok and will stay safe in the days ahead. Keeping you in my prayers.
Kylie (#122), that does sound frightening. Stay safe.
Kylie said... 122
A very frightening night. We have had 13 inches of rain in 3 hours. We still have power but the water is half way to the house. Along with the 8 and 3/4 inches we had previous to this makes us at 21 3/4 inches.
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Holy moly. Thank you for checking in, Kylie. The pictures are terrifying.
Be safe.
I don't even know Kate, but reading about her makes me need therapy.
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lol! Kate makes me feel sane ;-)
Hannah might very well be afraid. I doubt Kate is very pleasant after these sorts of encounters. She wasn't reluctant to put her hands on the child in front of the police and her ex. Why would she show more restraint in private?
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Totally believe this.
I can't imagine how Kate would treat any child who would rather be with Jon.
If Kate can beat them and lock them in rooms, who know how bad it can get.
Kate is thrilled to report that the twins don't want to be with their dad, and she doesn't feel they need any therapy. In fact, she was crowing from the rooftops about it. So why would Hannah need therapy for wanting to live with her dad? Kate must think that any child who doesn't want to be with Jon is just fine, but any child who doesn't want to be with her needs therapy.
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If any of the kids need therapy, it's the ones who refuse to see their father.
That's not going to bode well for them in life.
Jon: If you don’t want to go…. Hannah (screaming): No! Kate: But it is my week. Jon (to Hannah): Keep on fighting it! Hannah (screaming at Kate): No! Stop! Stop! Jon: Fight it! Kate: I’m going to pull you out of the car."
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It's summer. Why didn't Kate just let Hannah stay?
The intellectual dishonesty is amazing.
Kate's kids can decide they don't want to see Jon, EVER, yet Hannah wants to stay with Jon a little longer and it becomes a police matter.
It works both ways, Kate.
Hannah has watched her mother disregard visitation orders for YEARS, and get away with murder, but when Jon is the one the kids want to stay with, oh, then a court order matters.
smdh
I think on august 15 Hannah was suppose to go with Kate. Which would be why Jon brought her to exchange custody. On August 22 I think was Jon's custody
Formerly Duped said... 100
I was reading one of these latest articles and have to wonder why Alexis does not see Jon. I think she would like to, based on her demeanor on the show with him. Is Kate stopping her? I read Jon thought the four who he does see banded together to visit him, so why leave Alexis out? She gets along with the boys and I'm sure she would enjoy the kind of day Jon arranges for the kids.
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Maybe because all the kids were encouraged to leave Alexis out? Her mother described her as wild and feral(so did her siblings later on, sadly). Hannah and Leah gang up on her, Mady and Cara don't seem to care(maybe unimportant but I remember Cara saying her fav tup is Hannah and Mady saying her fav tup is Leah so again, Alexis left out), the boys have each other and Kate doesn't allow Alexis a lizard backpack, let alone being involved in her brothers' activities. I suspect the tups started cutting ties(bluntly put) with Alexis and Collin back when the two were expelled from kindergarten. Kate fostered the toxic environment, we know that. Remember when H and L decided they would sleep together in a bed on vacation and Kate just put A in bed with her and told her she was special? Maybe it's not such a mystery why A doesn't want to see Jon and seems disconnected from her siblings.
Dmasy said... 185
I am inland between Austin and San Antonio. We are expecting high winds and heavy rain. San Antonio is evacuating certain areas that flood.
Prayers for all those in the direct path of Harvey.
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Hi Dmasy!
Love your avatar.
#TexasStrong
Boy, I bet TFW misses the days she could just steer the kids around by their heads. She may need to up her spa visits to twice a month, poor baby.
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I've said it before, but I really don't think this woman ever calculated for the day when she couldn't steer them around by their heads.
Of course the written account of these events is open to interpretation, but it almost sounds like Hannah decided she was not going home period. If they were in court on August 11th, a Friday, and the judge ordered temporary 50/50 custody at that time. It's not clear when it was to start, but assuming Hannah was with Jon for that weekend, she was still with Jon on the following Tuesday?
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Do you suppose as Jon was driving Hannah to the dentist he said, who's going to Mommy's? The usual?
Kate is THEE most hypocritical pathological POS.
Tucker's Mom (#127), we've certainly caught glimpses of TFW's rage on the show. The way she interrogated the tups, who were still in diapers, about the drawer knob that fell off.
"Well, SOMEBODY did it," she snarled, "because I'm HOLDING it!"
Or when she threw the twins' toys down the steps. Two totally "who cares" situations. So imagine the venom that comes out when it's a situation involving the person she hates with every fiber of her being? And there are no cameras around?
.I also hope the other kids tell the truth and don't protect TFW due to fear or bribery or brainwashing.
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Maybe the truth is that some of them don't want to live with Jon.
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They are victims of parental alienation against Jon, and it's all documented on film.
Family court is all about what judge you draw. Some will see a case very fairly. Some suck.
Most of the ones here have evolved to give either mom or dad a fair shot, and you're no better or worse off just because you hold the vagina. UNLESS a kid is little and nursing, then moms are favored. But there's def still ones who favor mothers in general, antiquated motions that children need their mothers more, etc. I've seen some shit go down that made NO SENSE in favor of "the mother." And it often implodes, because that wasn't the right decision in the first place.
Kate has said for years that she lets the kids decide who wants to go with Jon. She also said she wishes he would spend more time with them. Boy, that all changed when H decided she'd rather stay with Jon permanently. Suddenly she does NOT let the kids decide and she does not wish he'd spend more time with them. Be careful what you wish for, Kate, or you just might get it.
I am convinced that more kids besides H want to live with their dad. H is just the one who is gutsy enough to stand up to Kate and push the issue. If H prevails and is able to be with her dad permanently (or at least 50/50), she will have paved the way for the others who want the same thing. The precedent will have been set in court, and Kate will have lost her brand. I think Leah, Aaden, and Joel also want to be with Jon.
After all these years of the sheeple throwing it out there that some of the kids don't want to see Jon, we are now seeing that at least one of them doesn't want to be with Kate. Maybe Kate. If it makes Jon a bad father that some of the kids don't want to be with him, then it makes Kate a bad parent that some don't want to be with her. Can't have it both ways, sheeple.
IMO Hannah should go to therapy WITHOUT Kate present, so that she can be free to open up to the therapist and tell him/her exactly what's going on. If Kate was there, she'd dismiss whatever H says and gaslight her.
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A reputable child therapist would NEVER do therapy with the mother present until they have spent a long time with the child getting to understand their issues.
Then they MIGHT bring the parent in, but only if it's clinically appropriate, and only if it is for therapeutic purposes, to help the mother and child work together and address their issues. Not for the parent to oversee what the kid says. And, she'll kick mom out quicker than scat if anything is unduly upsetting to the child.
Layla said... 139
Kate has said for years that she lets the kids decide who wants to go with Jon. She also said she wishes he would spend more time with them
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Kate has also had her #1 Lacky attack Jon on Twitter for not devoting himself more to his kids.
How on earth is a father wanting to father his children more a bad thing?
I mean, other than the fact that Kate can't cry any longer about not knowing how to be a father to her children.
Kate is going to regret having set a precedent that if a kid doesn't want to go with you during your custody, they can choose not to go. It works both ways as Hannah has figured out.
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She really thought these kids would never figure this out! A smart child is simply going to tell her, well you never made us go to dad's, so why should we be made to go with you???
And, we said it before. She thinks she's doing things that are advantageous to HER, but in the long run, they backfire.
From day one she should have set a precedent that the family law order is to be followed, every single time, regardless of who wants to go where and when. Jon would have respected her for it, none of the kids would have been estranged from him because they would have been spending time with him to realize there's no reason to be, and when the time comes that suddenly the kids decide they don't want to live with HER, Jon would have done her the same courtesy of following the family law order and taken them anyway.
Now, because she decided on the strategy she did, she has all but ruined any prayer of ever having a show again.
Layla 139, the article said that the trial is about 50/50 custody of all 6 children. Who knows how reliable it is but if it's true, then it's not just Hannah at the center of the battle, she's just the most vocal kid?
What does everyone make of the article saying Jon was fighting for all the tups, including Collin? If he wins do you think that means Collin would finally be able to visit and see his siblings, at his dad's house?
How on earth is a father wanting to father his children more a bad thing?
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Because it's not FAIR. Because that's not fair to KATIE! He didn't step up before (because she ensured he didn't by bleeding him dry of custody and every last cent in the family law courts) so how come he gets to step up NOW?
She is such a child.
The second is about Jon calling them regarding being threatened by Kate's "lawyer" friend.
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Good for Jon! What the H!
So for Milo and nick_moy, here's your proof that it was Kate who caused the problem.
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Seriously.
What's next, the cops lied in their police report? Sounds like they're treading on serious libel issues there.
Layla (#139), I can't imagine the boys prefer living with their mother over their father. She openly degrades them and minimizes them.
Statistically speaking, it's quite possible that A and/or J have experienced bullying. In fact, the odds could be higher since they're celebrities. And, no, they're not exempt just because they've been in the same school since they were little. I can't picture the boys feeling safe enough to confide in their mother. Would she be capable, or even interested, in offering comfort or advice? Or would she just tell them to "man up?"
I like how the attorney slithered out before the cops could show up. Coward.
Also I like how the cops only identify Kate as the disruptive "subject." LOL.
Kate: We don’t want Daddy to get arrested! Jon (watching Kate trying to remove Hannah from the car): I won’t get arrested!"
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She implied to her child if she didn't comply Jon would get ARRESTED!
What the fuck?
And why wasn't she arrested all the time she didn't turn over the children, Kate? She is emotionally wrecking these children.
Kylie...my thoughts are with you. Please keep reporting in. I hope you do not lose power.
The worst of the wind and rain have gone around our little town. We are getting steady rain. Seguin (just a few miles away) has flooding and damage.
My son, in Houston, is in a flooded neighborhood. Rain is inches from coming in their garage and rain is still falling.
I notice that Jon says to Kate not less than three times as Kate is pulling the child, YOU'RE GOING TO HURT HER. I.e. by pulling her out of the car.
There was only one parent here concerned about what this was doing to Hannah, the child.
A therapist would have a field day with this transcript. Notice how manipulative Kate is:
Guilting Hannah by saying her brothers and sisters need to see her. Guilting her by telling her that she loves her, as if Hannah is making Kate feel like Hannah doesn't love HER by wanting to be with Jon. Guilting her by crying (the transcript actual says Kate is crying, GEEZ)
It's outrageous how manipulative she is to this little girl.
Admin,Kate's manipulation is what struck me the most. She would have said anything to get Hannah to come home quietly. She doesn't care about the impact her words have on Hannah. I wonder if she did that for years: "You can go to daddy, of course, but just know I'll miss you so much and I'll cry the whole time you're gone and I'll be so so sad." What's a six year old going to do when hearing his/her mom speak like that?
t. She would have said anything to get Hannah to come home quietly. She doesn't care about the impact her words have on Hannah. I wonder if she did that for years: "You can go to daddy, of course, but just know I'll miss you so much and I'll cry the whole time you're gone and I'll be so so sad." What's a six year old going to do when hearing his/her mom speak like that?
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Those words were PROOF she does not say very neutral things to them about their father and that if any alienation is going on, it has nothing to do with anything SHE said. BS. Rather, PROOF she manipulates, implying they don't want to see their siblings, don't love her, and Mom is so devastated she's crying see what you're doing, if they go with Dad.
Some kids are going to be VERY susceptible to words and actions like that and very taken in by Kate.
The sheeple were wrong about her, again.
RoxyHelen (143),
I am so happy that he is going for 50/50 custody. He may be requesting primary physical custody of H (maybe more of them). My SIL has an arrangement like that. She and her ex share custody and have equal say in all educational matters, health care, etc. But she is the "primary" parent. As the 6 get older, adjustments can be made according to the kids' preferences.
FlimsyFlamsy (147),
The boys are so easygoing that they at nt really press the issue. Every report (and even the "Kate's heart is rocked" source-close-to-Kate) say that the kids (plural) prefer to be with Jon. It just looks like Hannah is the one who is gutsy enough to push the issue. That girl is a fighter, and Kate can't bend her to her will. She can't manipulate her and she can't lash out at her without repercussions. Kate is not equipped to deal with teenagers. She could steer then kids around by the head and intimidate them and force them to bend to her will when they were small. Not now.
So good to hear from our Texas posters and that you are all okay! I've been following on the news and the situation there is frightening!
Some kids are going to be VERY susceptible to words and actions like that and very taken in by Kate
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This is why I wonder if maybe that's what happened to Alexis. Rejected and left out by most of her siblings, she might have clung to Kate and been desperate to please her.
I still remember the tups' 5th birthday episode, it was Alexis who came up to Jon and told him she misses him and doesn't want him to go away anymore. God it's not enough that the children have gone through heartbreaking situations, thanks to Kate, they're on film too!
. So imagine the venom that comes out when it's a situation involving the person she hates with every fiber of her being? And there are no cameras around?
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Globegate.
And the dumb shit fully documented her totally abnormal and psychologically abusive response to it because she actually believed it made her look like Mother of the Year.
Kate is THEE most hypocritical pathological POS.
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And then Jon said, "But, I LOVE you! Your brothers and sisters need you!"
Talk about screwing with a kid's head...
And now for something completely different.....
Yesterday was national dog day and neither TFW (who we all know is the best dog mom in the universe) nor Milo (a self proclaimed dog lover a conscience of TFW) mentioned it at all. No pictures of #NookiePookieMakAndShoka or #MissKAndJack. TFW must be reeling from all the recent articles and Milo hasn't uttered a peep. Nick is the only one commenting so I guess she wasn't invited to the circle the wagons strategy meeting.
She really thought these kids would never figure this out! A smart child is simply going to tell her, well you never made us go to dad's, so why should we be made to go with you???
And, we said it before. She thinks she's doing things that are advantageous to HER, but in the long run, they backfire.
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This is just the beginning for Kate's comeuppance.
She is reaping what she's sown.
From day one she should have set a precedent that the family law order is to be followed, every single time, regardless of who wants to go where and when. Jon would have respected her for it, none of the kids would have been estranged from him because they would have been spending time with him to realize there's no reason to be, and when the time comes that suddenly the kids decide they don't want to live with HER, Jon would have done her the same courtesy of following the family law order and taken them anyway.
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Kate should also have commenced intensive counseling for any child who persisted in refusing to see their father.
This has gotten WAY out of control and damaging to the kids.
^^^^What does everyone make of the article saying Jon was fighting for all the tups, including Collin? If he wins do you think that means Collin would finally be able to visit and see his siblings, at his dad's house?
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That needs to happen and soon, if it hasn't already.
Can you imagine the torment of having to live with a mother who has shown she's capable of sending you away for good?
Kate telling Hannah that Jon may get arrested if she didn't go with her shows how she gaslights these children. She was basically telling Hannah that if Daddy got arrested, it would be Hannah's fault.
She plays the "blame game" to maneuver the kids to do what she wants them to do and she's probably been doing it for years. It's always "their fault" if things don't work out to Kate's liking.
I do think it was quite ironic that a week later, after Kate made that "threat" about Jon being arrested, it was Kate, not Jon, who had to be escorted out by the police.
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The second is about Jon calling them regarding being threatened by Kate's "lawyer" friend.
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Good for Jon! What the H!
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Whoever this yutz lawyer is should face sanctions from the bar.
Malfeasance writ large.
(says the not-a -lawyer!)
Thanks DMasy. It was a really rough night and the rain came close to the house but then stopped. We still have power but it has started raining hard again with a tornado warning. Much heavier rain is predicted for tonight. I hope your son is ok. We are very close to people who climbed into their attics to get away from the rain and are now trapped. Helicopters are around. First responders are asking that anyone with flat bottom boats would get to the area and help rescue people. There is a pregnant woman in labor inside an attic that needs rescuing. The problem is no one can get anywhere as all the freeways and their feeders are severely flooded. We are being told this is a 500 year event.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 147
Layla (#139), I can't imagine the boys prefer living with their mother over their father. She openly degrades them and minimizes them.
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Maybe with Jon, the kids will be able to enjoy clubs and sports and camp!
And skiing with the poconos RIGHT there!
Life is going to open up for those kids if Jon can get at least 50/50 custody. They will never again be beholden to a filming schedule and they will live in a home, not a set.
NJGal51 (#159), I almost posted here yesterday about it being Dog Day, but I figured Gladys would carry that news back to TFW. You know she stops by here at the COH
(Cesspool Of Hate)!
Also I like how the cops only identify Kate as the disruptive "subject." LOL.
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In lieu of a perp walk, it will due!
She implied to her child if she didn't comply Jon would get ARRESTED!
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The guilt trip and manipulation of Hannah was astronomical.
"I love you"
"Your brothers and sisters need you"
'Your father will be arrested if you don't come with me"
OMG!!
My son, in Houston, is in a flooded neighborhood. Rain is inches from coming in their garage and rain is still falling.
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I hope he's safe and secure and doesn't lose anything!
My in-laws live in SW Florida and they are getting hammered with days of rain.
The retention pond behind their house is creeping closer and the street is flooded.
They say more rain is expected.
Some kids are going to be VERY susceptible to words and actions like that and very taken in by Kate.
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As I said, at least one kids is going to Gray Gardens it with Kate at the compound, with tall weeds growing all around, peeling paint, dust bunnies everywhere, spoiled food in the moldy fridge and a stuffed Zorro perched in a cob-webbed cage.
Kate's failure to ever plan for the future is really biting her in the ass right now. She only thinks of what's going on right now, and doesn't understand that things can change completely without warning. She never built upon any of the opportunities that were thrown her way because if something didn't pay off right now, she'd just drop it. Her website, the coupon blog...if she had put some effort into those, she could be making a living off them by now. Good grief, the coupon blog only lasted a couple weeks! What a waste of time and money to create that thing in the first place! She could have had a show of her own or taken a spot on an existing show without the kids, but it was easier to sell off the kids and let them carry her. The laziness is mind-boggling. She never stopped to consider what would happen if there was no more show, or if Jon was given some control over the kids, or even if the kids grew up and decided they weren't interested in supporting Mommy. I remember an interview where she said that people wanted to watch the kids grow up, graduate, get married. She intended to cash in on all those things.
If the court case/GAL thing was the reason TLC cut the season short by 5 episodes, then this situation has already cost Kate more than $200,000. Good. Just desserts, I say.
The clock is ticking. There's less than 5 years left until she can't sell the little kids anymore. Less than 14 months for C&M.
Saying 'we don't want daddy to go to jail' is sick, but Kate saying 'we'll go to therapy' is probably one of the scariest things. I'm sure she took C to 'therapy' and look where he ended up.
I'm not at all surprised it was Jon pointing out that Kate was hurting H. Her diary (printed by RH) clearly showed she loses it and has zero control of her temper and physical lashing out. I'm so glad these kids are no longer babies and can fight back. I hope one of them knocks her on her ass some day.
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Kylie said... 165
Thanks DMasy. It was a really rough night and the rain came close to the house but then stopped.
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Dear God, the horrors.
Thank you for checking in!
Someone (I have forgotten who) mentioned yesterday about the possibility of raising funds to help Jon with his legal expenses. I'm not good at organizing but I would be happy to put my money where my mouth is if such a fund is set up.
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Layla said... 172
Kate's failure to ever plan for the future is really biting her in the ass right now. She only thinks of what's going on right now, and doesn't understand that things can change completely without warning.
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What was it that Kate scoffed?
"For the time being????"
Peeshaw!! I'm going to ride the fame train forever!!
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Someone (I have forgotten who) mentioned yesterday about the possibility of raising funds to help Jon with his legal expenses. I'm not good at organizing but I would be happy to put my money where my mouth is if such a fund is set up.
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Me too! I was hoping his brother Mark would when I read his posts on FB.
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I am in complete agreement with you about the Grey Gardens scenario. I can definitely see it coming, given the right set of circumstances.
Anonymous said... 175
Someone (I have forgotten who) mentioned yesterday about the possibility of raising funds to help Jon with his legal expenses. I'm not good at organizing but I would be happy to put my money where my mouth is if such a fund is set up.
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Given that this is such a high-profile case, I wouldn't be surprised if his lawyer is cutting him a break. If she's successful where many others have failed, that's going to boost her practice enormously. I hope he's not going broke paying the bills, but at least this time he can console himself that some progress is finally being made.
Kate's failure to ever plan for the future is really biting her in the ass right now. She only thinks of what's going on right now, and doesn't understand that things can change completely without warning. She never built upon any of the opportunities that were thrown her way because if something didn't pay off right now, she'd just drop it.
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She's fickle, lazy, noncommittal, and not willing to plug away at more long-term goals that would take a lot of hard work and patience. And now, finally, at long last, she's up a creek for it.
Kate telling Hannah that Jon may get arrested if she didn't go with her shows how she gaslights these children. She was basically telling Hannah that if Daddy got arrested, it would be Hannah's fault.
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BINGO.
It's emotionally abusive.
What if the cops DID arrest someone? Sometimes they feel they have to if they feel domestic violence has happened. They may never prosecute but it's still upsetting. The child will blame herself.
You should never, ever, ever, EVER make a child feel they had anything to do with an adult's arrest or threaten that an adult could be arrested in light of them just having opinions. It's beyond sick.
She plays the "blame game" to maneuver the kids to do what she wants them to do and she's probably been doing it for years. It's always "their fault" if things don't work out to Kate's liking.
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Many of her viewers figured this out. We have. Her kids will too, some if not most of them. One has already.
Anonymous said... 175
Someone (I have forgotten who) mentioned yesterday about the possibility of raising funds to help Jon with his legal expenses. I'm not good at organizing but I would be happy to put my money where my mouth is if such a fund is set up.
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I was thinking about that yesterday and wondering why Jon's family or friends hadn't organized a fundraiser for Jon's legal expenses. Jon has a lot of friends and contacts. It could be something fun for both kids and adults--games for kids, a silent auction, spaghetti dinner, Jon spinning records, etc. Khate's camp and Khate's camp would make all sorts of accusations of impropriety as well as accuse Jon of violating the gag order. While Jon could probably use the money for his legal fees, it might be more trouble than what it's worth right now. Maybe down the road, cause you know Khate will appeal the verdict(s) if she doesn't win.
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She's fickle, lazy, noncommittal, and not willing to plug away at more long-term goals that would take a lot of hard work and patience. And now, finally, at long last, she's up a creek for it.
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Without a paddle.
I'm not at all surprised it was Jon pointing out that Kate was hurting H. Her diary (printed by RH) clearly showed she loses it and has zero control of her temper and physical lashing out. I'm so glad these kids are no longer babies and can fight back. I hope one of them knocks her on her ass some day.
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My gut feeling is that Collin did stand up to her and fight back and that's why he's gone. If he'd finally had enough he may have gotten physical with her.
NJGal51 said... 185
My gut feeling is that Collin did stand up to her and fight back and that's why he's gone. If he'd finally had enough he may have gotten physical with her.
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Now that would be the "realest reality show".
Layla (#172), to say TFW squandered her opportunities for other projects is an understatement. She was hugely famous for a while there. But instead of trying to parlay that popularity into other arenas, she waited for things to fall into her lap.
TFW posted once about mailing some project out that she "sealed with a kiss." She should've been mailing things out to multuple companies on the regular. She should have had her agent or manager set up general meetings for her every single week, to discuss possible future projects.
She should've been reading Variety and the Hollywood Reporter online every single morning to keep up with the TV industry. I doubt she did any of that.
Guy Fieri's got yet another new show on Food Network: Guy's Family Road Trip. Along with Diners, Drive-ins and Dives, and Guy's Big Bite, and Guy's Grocery Games. And then there's cookbook writer Schmoopy Irene Gosselin, who can't even score a guest spot on Beat Bobby Flay.
How can any judge in this case ever be able to assess Kate's true intentions toward Hannah or any of the other children? Of course she loves her--she's H's mother--but those kids are Kate's source of monetary support. Without them she has no show and no money coming in. Does she want custody because she wants to nurture and guide her children? Or does she want control so that she can continue to financially benefit from them? How can anyone sit there and make that call? Kate has a lot of ulterior motives to maintain sole custody. Jon does not. Kate has said publicly that she wants Jon to spend more time with the kids. She complains about all the work, all the stress, and having to be both mother and father. She should welcome joint custody. She should be happy that he wants to shoulder more of the responsibility. But she doesn't. That's where you have to look at her ulterior motives. And she has plenty of them.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 187
Layla (#172), to say TFW squandered her opportunities for other projects is an understatement. She was hugely famous for a while there. But instead of trying to parlay that popularity into other arenas, she waited for things to fall into her lap.
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Kate was so damn sure a seat would open for her on The View.
Does anyone even watch that show anymore
Of course she loves her--she's H's mother--but those kids are Kate's source of monetary support. Without them she has no show and no money coming in. Does she want custody because she wants to nurture and guide her children?
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This question will linger in the minds of her children all of their lives.
Every party.
Every trip.
Everything.
She should welcome joint custody. She should be happy that he wants to shoulder more of the responsibility. But she doesn't. That's where you have to look at her ulterior motives. And she has plenty of them.
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She sure does. Kate will cry about Jon messing up HER schedule and how the routines will be thrown off, but no one will believe her, save her merry little band of lickspittles.
A new schedule will set in and a new reality will take place.
Layla (#188), surely TFW wouldn't have the chutzpah to dust off the ol' "I can't get a regular job because all my salary would go to childcare" excuse. With kids old enough to be hired as babysitters themselves? Try again, duchess.
Looks like I'm the only one who doesn't agree with what Jon did in this instance. IF it was Kate's week, being that Jon had had her for a week, I think he was in the wrong to encourage Hannah to fight. It exacerbated an already very volatile situation and I seriously doubt that the judge who granted the 50/50 temp custody would be pleased to hear that when it was Kate's turn, Jon encouraged Hannah not to go with her mother.
A judge most definitely needs to know Hannah's wish to live with her father, and continue the 50/50 split or better yet, give him custody and Kate have her on weekends. Involving that child in a near knock down, drag out fight is not the way to make your case.
And was that the time it went on for 3 hours? What was the cop doing all that time? Was that the time the cop told Kate to get Hannah out of the car? That's not in the transcript.
If Hannah was indeed assigned a GAL, wouldn't that person be made aware of the 'stories' surrounding Kate with regard to abuse even if Hannah does not talk? The other kids deserve GAL protection too.This is Jon's chance to make things right for his children, a time we've all been waiting for.
Stay safe, all of you affected by Harvey . Thoughts go out to those who have loved ones in the area as well .
OT- Just binged Series 3 of UK's Broadchurch. Excellent!
We're starting Ozark with Jason Bateman and Laura Linney- Good start- it will remind you of Breaking Bad.
The pictures from Harvey are heartbreaking.
There is no perfect response in any natural disaster, but I hope that all officials, from local to Trump to Congress does everything in their power to help these poor people.
I wanted to look at the comments on Kate's recent post one last time to see what fans are saying and this one to me seems very hypocritical.When Mady and Cara talked about not wanting to go to Jon's it wasn't "teenage rebellion" to the fans,it was them speaking the "truth"but here this fan is blaming Hannah for being a rebellious teen.jeska5589 Shelly, I guess it just doesn't occur to u that this one child is rebelling a bit because she's thirteen and maybe has decided that following rules at Mom's house isn't as fun as being able to do whatever you want at Dad's. Think, even just a LITTLE bit.
Shelly, I guess it just doesn't occur to u that this one child is rebelling a bit because she's thirteen and maybe has decided that following rules at Mom's house isn't as fun as being able to do whatever you want at Dad's. Think, even just a LITTLE bit.
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What is their evidence Hannah wanting to live with Jon has absolutely anything to do with "not wanting to follow Kate's rules?" And Hannah has for a long time been known as the helper child, likes to help out with various things. That's on film. She doesn't strike me as particularly distressed over a few chores.
And this has been going on years, long before she ever hit a "teenage rebellion" phase. She JUST turned 13.
OT- Just binged Series 3 of UK's Broadchurch. Excellent!
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I finished it last week. Aside from the glaring PSA about rape culture, I actually really liked that they explored a crime that wasn't a murder. After all how many murders can there be in that little town? Even with all the murders and rape as it is I'd be wanting to move! British true crime shows can be very intoxicating.
Did Ms. Kreider ever post this year's "traditional" back to school picture on IG? Has she posted any pictures of the kids since the August 15th & 22nd incidents?
She should welcome joint custody. She should be happy that he wants to shoulder more of the responsibility. But she doesn't. That's where you have to look at her ulterior motives. And she has plenty of them.
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I bet you in any other scenario she would be fine with this. Less crap for her to deal with. But it's like a poster said, these kids are gonna put two and two together and realize what her motives were for taking them from Jon, and they're going to realize it has little to nothing to do with, oh I just love you guys so much and want you as much as possible and everything to do with her bottom line.
If she REALLY loved them, she would want them to have a relationship with their father and would make every effort to be fair to that notion. And the kids can and will and already have figured this out.
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