Friday, September 1, 2017

Recap: Kate Plus 8 "8 Movie Makers": Onlooker #2 films some orphanage kids

Still catching up on a few outstanding recaps, enjoy! 

8 Movie Makers is another cop-out bottle episode, where it all takes place at the house, which is dirt cheap to film, and it's mostly filler. Thankfully it's only 21 minutes, so this recap should be much more brief and a relief for me!

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TLCgo has their own app for Amazon fire, and for once, TLC has an app that is smooth, organized and easy to use. You just browse or search for your series, and when it pops up it shows you all the seasons they have and all the episodes. Scroll on over to what you want and hit play and you're off and running. For the longest time I wasn't able to catch up on old recaps because I simply couldn't find the episodes anywhere, not for free anyway. I like that TLC has now put up all the episodes of all their series on TLCgo now. TLCgo is free, by the way, as long as it's part of your regular cable subscription (it should work just fine if you have Vue or DirectTV streaming, too).

This first aired in August 2011, a whopping six years ago. It's always interesting to look back and see what's different and what's the same. Things are frankly, mostly the same. As per the usual, Kate is taking credit for an episode idea in that she thought of it to have the kids make their own movie. The movie they are forced to live all the time for the cameras isn't enough? Geez.

A company called "Movie Makers" comes to the house, headed by Melissa and Sam. I googled the company to see if they're still around and yes, here they are, still running their camps and private lessons. Their 10 week classes are only $375, which frankly is very reasonable.  They're also still bragging that they are "as seen on Kate Plus 8". Seven years later maybe it's time to drop that association. What's also funny is I found an interview with a very polite Melissa about her experience on Kate Plus 8, where she explains that the idea to hire her was dreamed up by one of the producers brainstorming episode ideas, whose daughter had participated in Movie Makers and enjoyed it. Baw! Busted, Kate. Wait a second, why would you need to sit around a table brainstorming episode ideas for a reality show? I love when people inadvertently out this charade for exactly what it is.

Melissa is an "actor," by the way, and has a decent-sized IMDB page of mostly bit parts in mostly D-list shows and movies. But she did make an appearance or two on reputable shows like Army Wives and as "Onlooker #2" on One Tree Hill. Follow your dreams and all that. Onlooker #2, lol. I prefer ogler myself, and I'd like to be #1 please!


Well this is nice, Kate takes a hike because she wants the movie to be a surprise. More than likely this is not a trip so she's not interested, but it's fine by me. Imagine collecting a huge paycheck, likely in the high five figures, just by saying, "Here kids go make a movie with Melissa" and then going upstairs and cutting yourself up an avocado to put on your salad. Kind of crazy.

The younger kids seem awfully young for the things Melissa is explaining to them: rolling, speed, slate? The kids look like they don't care and more just want to play with the clapboard. I'm going to call this right away that this activity is way too old for them, teens would get way more out of this. With little kids, it just turns more into a chaotic play time. What is with this show and their struggle to find these kids activities that are age appropriate? Usually the activities are way too babyish, but it goes both ways, and this time the activity is way too mature for them to get much out of it.

Collin is yawning away on the couch. The kids pull out a crap ton of costumes from God knows where and start trying them on. What is this movie about? Are they just randomly picking customes? Do the kids understand what they're doing and why? Because I'm confused myself.

Well armchair psychologist this, Mady has decided the movie will be about an orphanage. Melissa instructs one of the sextuplets that she will play an "orphanage girl". Um, does she mean "orphan"? Oh well, actors are not known for being bright.

They cut to a shot of Sam folding up all the mountains of unused costumes and putting them back. Why aren't the kids doing that? They created this cyclone. What tends to happen to celebrity kids, wealthy kids or kids on T.V., I've seen first hand, is that when people come over like this, they don't treat them the same as they would other kids. Happens all the time. They get special treatment, including cleaning up all their crap for them. It's not good, Sam. Not good at all. When I nannied, I used to have to ask the housekeeper to please stop making the children's beds in the morning and cleaning up after them all the time, as I wanted them to make their own beds themselves and clean up after things themselves, and to get in trouble when they didn't. It didn't matter to me things weren't made up as perfect as the way Ophelia would do it, I wanted the children to have to do it. It's important. There is a long line of people in these children's lives who have done them no favors.

Melissa explains that they're going to start filming, but they will film out of order. That's typical of most films. Mady remarks that their reality show is filmed in order, so this is a change. That's not true, we have caught them multiple times filming out of order, and Jon was once ordered to keep his beard for the sake of "continuity." Now why would you need to worry about continuity if you were always filming in order? Heh.

It's fascinating to watch how much time they waste showing us absolutely nothing. There's a whole lot of the younger kids rambling, which is even more meandering because they're so young, and a lot of walking around, and nothing is happening.

Even at this age, it seems to me doing the camp, or having friends over to help make the movie, would be so much more fun than Mady and Cara having to direct all their younger siblings. Kind of a drag.

Collin and Joel are manning the cameras, and they're just way too young for this. They're chopping people's heads off gyrating them up and down so much I'm getting nauseous. Collin is wearing an adorable oversized pirate hat. Hehe.

Great, perfect! Melissa is constantly saying to everything these kids do. I can't stand when all adults do is over-praise kids.

Melissa's introducing herself again. I thought we already did the meet and greet portion earlier. Well, hello, again. Why do I get the feeling Melissa is the type of gal who tends to do stuff like mix up the salt for the sugar?

Melissa says at the moment the movie doesn't make any sense, but she'll figure it out. Um.



The TLC interns are getting cutesy, putting a little of the script up on the screen "Ext. Magical World."

Melissa thinks it's just so wonderful that the kids don't have a problem with looking at the cameras, which is the problem for other kids she teaches. Melissa, that is because since birth they have been filming a virtual Truman Show, you understand that, right? Don't you find their heightened abilities to work so smoothly with a camera crew at such a young age creepy, like, at all? She's getting dumber by the moment. I'm surprised she didn't use the cool industry lingo she's been invoking all along, it's called spiking the camera, and it's such a common mistake even from adult professionals that is should really weird her out these kids never do it.

The kids are starting to lose it with all this filming, and some are hitting each other and getting annoyed. Kate and Melissa are excusing all this atrocious behavior, especially with guests over, as just simply sibling rivalry.

Day three of filming? This doesn't sound fun. It sounds exhausting. That's over half the time it takes to film a real drama episode, like Law and Order, and it's well documented how exhausting those five days usually are. Why does everything have to be a 10 out of 10 here? Why couldn't they just make a short film for half a day or something, maybe a day? Melissa has given up even putting make-up on at this point, heh, and she looks tired.

At this point Melissa says she has no clue how the movie will turn out and it's all over the place. Um, isn't she supposed to be in charge here? How much is she getting paid to be this confused? And in conclusion, may I please remind you that it does not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty!


So, was Kate really totally MIA all these three days? That's kind of odd, though I really enjoyed the break from recapping her histrionics. But, I have to admit, it makes the episodes even more boring than they usually are when no one is having a mental health episode for me to discuss. Kate said earlier she cleaned her room during all this time. Good, I'm sure it needed it.

Kate looks so tan she looks like she's a totally different race, she looks like people who aren't white but who like to dye their hair blond. She looks ridiculous, and you can really see the difference here in how much less she tans these days. They finished filming and now it's time for the movie premiere. They don't explain how they get from filming to a movie premiere. I'm guessing Melissa goes back to the office and splices it all together in between bit parts as Onlooker #2?

The kids are so young, I'm not sure they really know what a movie premiere looks like to get a kick out of this. But production did a good job nonetheless, making a real mini-red carpet at the house, and Melissa and Sam standing in as reporters asking questions. I like Melissa's movie poster, it looks like a poster from when Lifetime used to make halfway decent Sunday night movies about things like kidnappings. Not bad at all.

Melissa interviews Kate on the red carpet. Shmoopy is in her element. Talk about myself? Yes please!

They all line up on the couches and floor of course with popcorn, and watch the movie, The Orphans' Adventure. Good punctuation, Melissa.




So far this is kind of the plot of Annie, in which the hard knock orphans have to clean all day. Also, it sounds like their real life. Remember Kendra crying because the children had so many chores to do every day? It takes kind of a Stephen King-like twist when some of the orphans get sucked down into a vortex and end up..... in Kate's back yard, far as the eye can see!

I'm losing the plot here, suddenly there are other kids popping up in various costumes, and Mady and Leah find a pirate chest and take something out of it. Oh, Melissa.

For once I think Kate's expression is justified. She's trying to be proud of all this, but can't follow the plot either.

Leah and Mady aren't the worst actors in the world, I'm mildly impressed with their ability to trip and fall realistically, and make scared faces. But the best actor in this whole thing is wearing a unicorn costume so I can't tell who it is.

The hard to follow plot ends with some of the kids in costume inviting the orphans to stay with them. But why? It's extra mouths to feed, and they barely know them. Wouldn't it make more sense to call CPS if children are being worked to death at an orphanage? Or even the cops? Yeah this is me, during every movie. I'm that film-goer.

Melissa is getting quite lovey dovey with these kids after only knowing them three days, affectionately holding Leah's hands and swinging them back and forth and giving her a very warm hug. Does she honestly think that's a good idea for their sake? She's just going to be ripped from their lives at the end of the filming never to be seen again. This is a big reason these kids have the problems that they do now, the revolving door of people doling out love to them, then being taken away, including their own father.

This episode had a huge redeeming factor in that Kate was barely in it. She only swooped in at the end to obnoxiously make this all about Mady and her growth, when all the other kids, especially Leah, were chipping in their fair share and I'm sure grew too! And that's a wrap!

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FlimsyFlamsy said...

We have no idea how that Mexico trip was paid for. Colleen may have had airline miles saved up for free plane tickets. They might have had hotel vouchers. Jon could have met someone through his DJ work who knew about some great deal. Or, heck, Colleen's family might have chipped in to give her the trip as a graduation gift. Without evidence, I don't think it's fair to say Jon blew a few grand on some luxury vacay, and now has his hand out.
Unlike his lying, grifting, selfish ex, Jon has not lost the benefit of the doubt with me.

RoxyHelen said...

Tucker's mom, I was thinking the exact same thing. I think people here know I do not cut Jon slack ( some even feel I was too harsh on him) but really in this case, I don't see it. The man works two jobs and went on a 3 (?)day trip to celebrate his long term gf's professional success, in a rather affordable location, probably not some 5 stars hotel either. Even if he was reckless with money in June (which I don't believe), I don't see why his kids have to pay the price, now when it's obvious he needs this money for legal fees. Why does Jon work two jobs? I'm sure it's for the kids because him and Colleen could probably live off of just one job each.

I don't know, maybe this is all just wishful thinking on my part but somehow I don't think so.

just wondering said...

Haven't been here in some time because I've had my nose buried in Ancestry & Family Search for the last two years. Quite a treat for an old adopted kid to finally find her roots & now I'm completely entrenched.

I did see a blurb about Hannah & Jon so came over & caught up a bit. Good for Hannah!! Stay strong, baby girl!!

And hell yes I will donate until I'm freakin bankrupt if it will help get Hannah or/and any of the kids away from Kate even if only part time. Jon has an awful lot of deprogramming to do.

And this is why I will risk it:
We've all spent a decade worrying about these kids & now we actually have a chance to help!?? I'd go to my grave feeling guilty as hell if I didn't step up now that I finally have a chance to do something concrete.

If Jon collects enough money he can insist on a psych eval for Kate. If Jon collects enough he can hire professionals to testify about parental alienation. He can't hire these pros without some major $$$...

Plaster this on your Facebook accounts. Help him get the word out. Have all of your friends & families pass it on. The ball is finally in our court to help him & the kiddos.. So pass the word to everyone you know & tell them that we finally have a way to help get those kids off TV & away from Kate.

I do not want to die wondering if I could have done more. Do you?? Do you want to actually help or do you just want to bitch about Kate. And Collin!! Do we leave him wherever the hell she put him or do we try to help him?? It's up to you, I guess. But I'm in. I'm putting my money where my mouth and my conscience has been since I first laid eyes on them.

It's going to take a lot of therapy to fix the kind of brain fuckery that Kate has doled out for their entire lives. Maybe the courts will make Kate pay for it!

Dmasy said...

Donate or don't donate -- the choice is one each of us gets to make for ourselves.

The money is a gift. Encouragement is a gift. Prayers are a gift. A gift does not have to be earned.

I consider it a gift for the children. Maybe this is the first time their voices will be heard.





FlimsyFlamsy said...

just wondering (#4), nice to see you, and thank you for your heartfelt comment. Glad you've been enjoying your "deep dive" into your genetic gene poll!

Formerly Duped said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2B8988ws0

This is my favorite dog commercial. The song 'Trouble' plays as a dog ( that looks a lot like mine and who does the same with larger cookies and bones) worries his precious bone may not be secure and buries it, re-buries it then takes it on the bus to the bank.

Tucker's Mom said...

just wondering said... 4
Haven't been here in some time because I've had my nose buried in Ancestry & Family Search for the last two years. Quite a treat for an old adopted kid to finally find her roots & now I'm completely entrenched.

^^^^^
So great to see you! If you don't mind, how did you even get started with your ancestry journey?
How does one even begin!
I'm happy that you're finding your family info.

I also agree with your post, 1000ish percent!

Nicky said...

Whoever would like to donate, go ahead. I think the timing is a little tone deaf. Personally, unless a situation is life or death, the public is the last place I would go to ask for money.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Mexico is very dangerous right now and vacations to there couldn't be cheaper. Plus with credit card points now, one could easily swing a three day vacation without paying a time. I agree one shouldn't assume he's spending money better spent on legal fees on this.

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2B8988ws0

This is my favorite dog commercial. The song 'Trouble' plays as a dog ( that looks a lot like mine and who does the same with larger cookies and bones) worries his precious bone may not be secure and buries it, re-buries it then takes it on the bus to the bank.
******
The Subaru commercials with Duck the dog just undo me. I think many of us has had a Duck.

Tucker's Mom said...

Nicky said... 9
Whoever would like to donate, go ahead. I think the timing is a little tone deaf. Personally, unless a situation is life or death, the public is the last place I would go to ask for money.
September 4, 2017 at 8:03 AM
^^^^
To be fair, it seems to me the timing has everything to do with Hannah making her move mere weeks ago, which led to Jon getting a temporary order for 50/50 custody for her, which led to a very important-perhaps most important court showdown-court date to address a permanent change in custody and parental rights status.

This might even be the momentum Jon needs to finally address getting access to Collin.

Which is the biggest thing ever which will shut down Kate's filming them whenever the hell she pleases.

The eyes and heart and wallets of our country are focused on Texas and Louisiana. I don't think giving to Jon's Go Fund Me account will leave one flood victim without.

God willing, our elected officials will actually be useful and pass a multi-billion dollar bill, free of pork, in the very near future.


imho

Formerly Duped said...

Aw, yes, the Duck one is wonderful, too, Tucker. Dogs' lifespans should match ours a little more. Or maybe not...such special creatures.I miss my soulmate cockapoo- the one in my usual avatar that you helped me with when she had spinal surgery- every single day. But our newer dog who 'worries' so much is amazing , too...

AuntieAnn said...

And Collin!! Do we leave him wherever the hell she put him or do we try to help him??

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I'm not clear on what happened to Collin. Did Kate put him somwhere herself or did authorities force her to have him removed from the home? (I was out of the loop when this all went down.) I'm going to guess it was the latter. I just can't see TFW taking a rational approach to his needs on her own volition.

NJGal51 said...

I own a Subaru and they did a "thank you" this year where you could insert yourself into a Barkleys commercial. It was very cleverly done. I, of course, inserted Spike hope the link works).

https://www.subarusaysthanks.com/video/bestdayever/ea8db1d0-7d0f-423d-a81a-382546e82ab2/1

just wondering said...

AuntieAnn, I'm not clear on what happened to Collin. Did Kate put him somwhere herself or did authorities force her to have him removed from the home?
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You know what? I don't doubt it, but even that sounds awfully fishy. Why haven't the kids or Jon been able to see him? (not that it's any of my business) But nothing about his predicament makes any sense no matter how you look at it.

If he snapped at Kate & tore into her, what does that have to do with Jon or the kids? If he hurt one of the kids, that still couldn't keep Jon away from him. I can think of nothing that a young boy could do that would prevent Jon from visiting him. Even murderers get visits!! Did someone hurt Collin? Still would not keep Jon away. No sense.. NONE sense!

Did Kate torment & traumatize the poor kid until he had a complete & catastrophic psychological break? That is about the only thing that rings true in my head.

That damn judge will not budge on this case unless Jon has enough money to bring in the specialists he needs to prove his case. His word & and the word of his family & friends won't cut it. Prayers & best wishes won't cut it, either. Only cold hard cash & undeniable testimony from professionals is oing to make a dent in this case.

Hannah's GAL will be a good start. The kids could be appointed CASA volunteers, too, it seems to me. I don't know. This family has been screwed up for so long..

So if some of you don't have any cash to donate then spend some time cross posting Jon's page to Facebook & beg those friends to pass it on to their friends. We have (well, you guys have) kept the candle burning for those kids. Now is our one shot to start a fire big enough to shine some actual light on Kate's treatment of those kids..

And Tucker's Mom.. I got a court order back in 1996 to have my adoption file opened. But until Ancestry came along there wasn't an awful lot I could do with it. Now I know the entire story of how I was born & the histories of endless generations. My birth mother was a Lee from the "Lees of Virginia." Robert E was a third cousin however many times back. I've got FOUR direct GGparents who were on the Mayflower & survived the first winter & a GGmother who survived the Jamestown Massacre with only one of her 6 children...

So I'm about 70% English, almost 25% Irish, & a smidge of Scottish. That's it. Hell's bells, I'm more English than most of the English!

Ok.. Enough of that, but I could go on forever about it. I know more about my birth family than any of them ever did & I find that hysterical & wonderful!! Finally, after 65 years I know everything. It was a very long wait, but oh so worth it.

I just completed my application to the DAR & now my kids & their kids will have a trail to follow if they choose. My husband was also adopted so my kids had no history whatsoever. I nailed that side down, too.

So next I will be diving into books on Jamestown, Mayflower history, the Lees, & so much more. I will probably die with a book in hand & that would suit me fine!

Sorry about all the off topic convo, but these last two years have been the most satisfying of my entire life. Truly remarkable!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Chefsummer, are you still out there? You haven't posted in a long time. I do hope you are well.

Anonymous said...

just wondering @ 16 - How wonderful and exciting it must be for you to discover your roots. Congratulations too; you have an impressive bunch of ancestors. I am thrilled for you.

I agree, sadly it looks like only hard cold cash is going to help Jon in rescuing his children. I hope people who live locally will let us know if the local press pick up news about the fund to help him. Perhaps then the national press will pick up the story and broadcast it to the masses out there who might want to help.

bm


AuntieAnn said...

just wondering said... 16
AuntieAnn, I'm not clear on what happened to Collin. Did Kate put him somwhere herself or did authorities force her to have him removed from the home?
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You know what? I don't doubt it, but even that sounds awfully fishy. Why haven't the kids or Jon been able to see him? (not that it's any of my business) But nothing about his predicament makes any sense no matter how you look at it.

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I guess that was a dumb question to ask. If Jon doesn't even know what happened how would anyone know except Kate and whoever else is involved in this mystery. But if it's such a big secret it is probably because she's keeping it one to save face. People, and that doesn't include sheep, have been warning her for years that reality tv is not the place to raise kids. But she will not listen.

Former Lurker said...

I didn't mean to start anything with my post yesterday questioning the Go Fund Me account. I did say that I realized the Mexico trip might have been part of Colleen's graduation celebration and she might have even paid for it all or, as some have said, it might even have been a gift.

I certainly didn't mean to talk anyone here into not donating or into donating. It's obvious that we're all concerned for C and the rest of the kids, and think Jon should have more time with them and at least joint legal custody. Of course, that takes lawyers and a considerable amount of money.

However, this has been going on for a very, very long time. Many years, not just recently with H. I just have to say that I know parents who wouldn't so much as waste $100, or $50, on dinner out while their kids are being withheld from them and one kid is God knows where, and a lawyer is desperately needed to help rectify the situation. Before asking strangers for money, most parents I know would do anything and everything from denying themselves any unnecessary expenses, making sacrifices, getting assistance from family if possible, putting every available dime into a legal fund.

Hats off to those who might donate $100 of their hard earned money and then later will have no problem seeing an Instagram pic of Jon and his girlfriend enjoying dinner and wine at a nice restaurant. I've never bashed Jon before, but now that he's asking strangers to contribute $30,000, I am questioning his priorities. He's had over eight years to save money and get his act together. But, it seems like for so many others, Go Fund Me is just so easy.

I realize this won't be a popular opinion here.

Formerly Duped said...

AuntieAnn, Collin was sent away to school to deal with his 'fluid diagnosis' of special issues according to Kate. This school apparently does not allow visitors or visits home, coming home for holidays, summer vacation or as far as we know, for his own father to know where he is except by hearsay. We have just come up with foster care, military school, juvie etc since we don't really know. He just vanished, for almost 2 years now. So sad

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

He's had over eight years to save money and get his act together.

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But how do you know that he hasn't been shelling out mega-bucks in the past several years to fight this, with attorney's fees, court courts, the expenses of which could have been astronomical? He doesn't have a lucrative, high-paying job and it's often not possible to squirrel money away when you have expenses like housing, rent, utilities, etc.

AuntieAnn said...

Formerly Duped said ...

This school apparently does not allow visitors or visits home, coming home for holidays, summer vacation or as far as we know, for his own father to know where he is except by hearsay.

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Thanks Duped. Wow. Just wow. Where is he then- San Quentin? Why does she love to torture everyone and anyone who won't march to her drum.

RoxyHelen said...

Former Lurker said... 20 I didn't take your comment that way and as far as I'm concerned, questioning these things is wise. I'm waiting to see what happens next, since right now I can't seem to decide about Jon (not talking about the donations anymore).

Formerly Duped said... 21

Collin left sometime in April or May last year so it's only been about a year and a few months.

RemonaBlue said...

Dmasy said... 5
''Donate or don't donate -- the choice is one each of us gets to make for ourselves.
The money is a gift. Encouragement is a gift. Prayers are a gift. A gift does not have to be earned.
I consider it a gift for the children. Maybe this is the first time their voices will be heard.''
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Tucker's Mom said... 12
''To be fair, it seems to me the timing has everything to do with Hannah making her move mere weeks ago, which led to Jon getting a temporary order for 50/50 custody for her, which led to a very important-perhaps most important court showdown-court date to address a permanent change in custody and parental rights status.

This might even be the momentum Jon needs to finally address getting access to Collin.''
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I agree with both of you. For the first time this gives me the chance to do something that I think might actually help not just Jon, but his children!!

Tucker's Mom said...

Former Lurker said... 20
^^^^^^
I think we on 15 Min. have been in lock-step agreement about Kate all these years, but we've been more apart regarding Jon, depending on the circumstance.
My opinion of Jon and his then girlfriend doing that relationship reality show was very negative, while others saw the upside.
I never got on board and never thought there was some greater good to be had.
No virtue that I could see.
Many of us have vacillated on whether Jon's been doing everything he can, or trying hard enough, or standing up to Kate enough, or being a fricking doormat (I get who I get) and on and on.
So having a negative take on Jon's Go Fund Me account is totally understandable!
Please don't feel that anyone has a negative opinion of you because you are rightfully skeptical.
I'm not 100% "rah rah!" over it, but am leaning towards throwing my support behind it for the many reasons listed here.
The best thing about this blog (besides great veranda friends, muumuus, crocs and Rumspringa) is that we can disagree respectfully, and that's kept the wheels greased and spinning for all these years!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

He doesn't have a lucrative, high-paying job and it's often not possible to squirrel money away when you have expenses like housing, rent, utilities, etc.

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I may be in the minority but I don't subscribe to the belief that you should never take vacations if you have big bills to pay. If it can be done on a reasonable budget for a reasonable time, one shouldn't be made to feel guilty. Getaways even if they are day trips are important to recover, regroup and refocus, especially if your job or life is unusually stressful.

One weekend getaway to Mexico won't make a dent in lawyer bills.
The problem is if you put yourself through such extreme deprivation and impose a rule that you won't go on vacation or have any fun until the big expenses are paid, you maybe find you will never have enough money saved to justify taking a break, and you get to the point where you're never taking breaks at all. That is not good for your mental health, nor is the resentment you've built up about your debt and how it's affecting whatoyu want. It sounds counterintuitive, but if you deprive yourself of a well deserved vacation you could end up getting frustrated with how much it stinks to pay

There's a fair compromise there--I know a lot of Dave Ramsey followers will reward themselves with someone reasonably like a short vacation or a nice night out after tackling a financial goal. For all we know a financial goal of this couple was to get a degree with higher earning potential. That was accomplished and deserves recognition notwithstanding the long road that may be ahead.

Speaking of which, I'm taking my own advice and am on vacation for the Labor Day week!

GollyGee said...

Formerly Duped said... 21
AuntieAnn, Collin was sent away to school to deal with his 'fluid diagnosis' of special issues according to Kate. This school apparently does not allow visitors or visits home, coming home for holidays, summer vacation or as far as we know, for his own father to know where he is except by hearsay. We have just come up with foster care, military school, juvie etc since we don't really know. He just vanished, for almost 2 years now. So sad.

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It is sad. I think she is speaking code speak that she sent him to a school and he is not allowed to visit or receive visitors. The "school" could be the "friends" in Wyoming or Montana. He is being homeschooled there at a family's home and may or not be getting any treatment for his medical needs.

IIRC, the police told Jon where he was. I can't pinpoint when. This was way before the showdowns with Hannah recently.



GollyGee said...

I think a great idea is to donate to Jon is in increments of 8 dollars. For the children.

Also, maybe Jon has a certain amount already saved up to fight in court and he has been told well, we need this X amount of money and this is what he needs!

The reason why I think this is because the GoFundme says that when the 30K goal is met, the remainder will be donated to Bethany's Children's Home.

GollyGee said...

To the Operation Christmas Child shoe box packers on the board!

Many OCC shoe box packers have lost many of their shoe boxes in the floods. There is a campaign on for anyone who pack the boxes to please consider packing just 10 more for Texas.

#10ForTexas

Formerly Duped said...

I thought we weren't sure exactly how long Collin has been gone due to the tricks of timing of the show and IG photos..anyway, it must seem a century to those who love him and to Collin himself. I was going by the school year but I may be wrong.He was partly gone at times, like when they just had decorated chairs for a birthday photo, or in certain scenes or episodes where he was missing or shown in a different outfit on the couch.

Dmasy said...

Just Wondering, that is awesome. How exciting.

I am glad you found pilgrims instead of pirates!

Thank you for sharing your heritage with us. It is easy to understand why you fell into the search. Congratulations on your success.

Former Lurker said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 28

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I wasn't talking about complete deprivation. I'm just questioning priorities. Certain things, like vacations, can surely be put on hold if someone is going through financial problems or needs to save money for something important (like his kids!) for a few years. Unfortunately, in this age of instant gratification people feel "deprived" if they have to put a trip on hold for a few years, or heaven forbid they don't go out to restaurants regularly.

As far as Jon, we've all observed his shenanigans over the last eight years, and he has definitely wasted a lot of money on himself and his indulgences. Until now, I shut my mouth because it's his business and his problem. But now that he's asking for money...give me a break.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

IIRC, the police told Jon where he was. I can't pinpoint when. This was way before the showdowns with Hannah recently.

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The police told Jon? Where was this reported?

JR said...

Jesse shore person here...it's getting very cool at the beach...already closed my pool...and windy and chilly here for the next week..hopefully it warms again...usually our Septembers are hot so the weathers kinda crazy right now...but not beach weather right now

Formerly Duped said...

I thought Jon found out where Collin was by a 'witness' or acquaintance, not by Kate or the police as far as I know. I don't follow his FB

Dmasy said...

Can we just agree that this might be a chance for the children? Finally, their voices and opinions might be heard. Where they want to live. If they wish to be filmed.

Maybe a GAL or judge will see things with a different slant. Maybe some new facts and information will be added to the piles of files on the Gosselin case.

Donate money...say a prayer...share the link on FB. Do/don't -- let's not fuss with each other.

This isn't about revenge toward Kate. It isn't about Jon's past and present. We have professed to want the best for the children. This might be the moment we have been hoping for.

RemonaBlue said...

Former Lurker said... 34
...''Until now, I shut my mouth because it's his business and his problem. But now that he's asking for money...give me a break.''
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I really don't understand why you are so upset about people giving Jon money. Obviously you have decided not to, and I have no problem with your decision. As you said, it is Jon's business and Jon's problem. However, I did send him money, and since it MY money I can spend it on whatever I choose...so give ME a break!

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Nice to see you RemonaBlue, it's been a long time!

I'll be donating money for the children. God knows we've been asking for this to happen for long enough, haven't we?

Former Lurker said...

RemonaBlue said... 39
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I really don't understand why you are so upset about people giving Jon money. Obviously you have decided not to, and I have no problem with your decision. As you said, it is Jon's business and Jon's problem. However, I did send him money, and since it MY money I can spend it on whatever I choose...so give ME a break!

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Wow, Remona. I don't know what you read in my comments that makes you conclude that I'm "so upset" merely because I have some questions and concerns about a Go Fund Me account. You are clearly the only one who's upset, and that's unfortunate and certainly not my intention at all.

Give you a break? Sheesh, I don't think I said anything that was giving you - or anyone - a hard time over donating. I didn't ask anyone not to donate, or criticize them for donating. I'm not sure why you're reading that into my comments.

Wasn't there a recent conversation here about questioning people when they set up fundraisers asking people for money? Some people like to look at the facts, as well as the history, before making a decision whether to contribute. There's nothing wrong with being smart and discerning.

Sandi said...

P.S. I did donate last night. GO JON!

GollyGee said...

"I have an idea where he is but I don't really know where he is," he tells ET's Jennifer Peros, alleging that Kate is keeping secrets from him.

While Kate "says Collin is in a special school for special needs kids with behavioral problems,” Jon claims he has been told otherwise.

By law enforcement officials, no less.

Collin is conspicuously missing from the new Kate Plus 8 trailer that debuted late last month, and won't be appearing in the new season.

He's also been MIA from interviews, magazines and other promotional materials in which Kate has been accused of exploiting Collin.

Hollywood gossip late last year.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

While Kate "says Collin is in a special school for special needs kids with behavioral problems,” Jon claims he has been told otherwise.

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Otherwise? So what *was* he allegedly told by law enforcement officers? Did Jon say that it was the cops who spilled Collin's whereabouts?

I think I'm a bit confused about this.

Former Lurker said...

RemonaBlue said... 39
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I really don't understand why you are so upset about people giving Jon money. Obviously you have decided not to, and I have no problem with your decision. As you said, it is Jon's business and Jon's problem. However, I did send him money, and since it MY money I can spend it on whatever I choose...so give ME a break!

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Wow, Remona. I don't know what you read in my comments that makes you conclude that I'm "so upset" merely because I have some questions and concerns about a Go Fund Me account. You are clearly the only one who's upset, and that's unfortunate and certainly not my intention at all.

Give you a break? Sheesh, I don't think I said anything that was giving you - or anyone - a hard time over donating. I didn't ask anyone not to donate, or criticize them for donating. I'm not sure why you're reading that into my comments.

Wasn't there a recent conversation here about questioning people when they set up fundraisers asking people for money? Some people like to look at the facts, as well as the history, before making a decision whether to contribute. There's nothing wrong with being smart and discerning.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Wow, has this story actually managed to silence TFW? No precious puppy pictures to distract with?

Think about it. She has NO Plan B.
If Jon manages to get the kids, she can no longer offer TLC the unlimited access which was probably a big part of her appeal to them.
They said jump, and she asked how high. But without her 7 little meal tickets available whenever, wherever, TLC can drop her and find 10 other families ready to be at their beck and call (*waves to the Busbys*). She must be livid. Absolutely livid.

Former Lurker said...

Admin, please put through my comment. It was a simple and polite reply to Remona. I'm not going to beat a dead horse, so I will drop the issue after this. However, since she directly addressed me, I wanted to reply to her. I didn't violate any posting rules. Thank you.

Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 44
Wow, has this story actually managed to silence TFW? No precious puppy pictures to distract with?
_____

Eh, not so fast. A video of #NookiePookie is up, so
we're back to the dogs.

kateplusmy8 Ohhhhh I think I may have created a monster! #Nanuq #HerFirstIceCream #SpoiledRotten 🐶😋

You may have created a monster all right, but I rather think she's in your mirror.

Milo's all over it, of course:

miloandjack2016 LOL. #BadMommy. Actually just as bad as I am!! We both SPOIL our furbabies... 😋 #PrincessNanuq. ❤ @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016 What flavor of ice cream ? I first thought that was peanut butter! @kateplusmy8

K8 came back for more:

courtneymshelton She's so sweet what kind of dog is she??

kateplusmy8@courtneymshelton She's a sable king shepherd. Her Dad is Shoka and her brother from same litter is Mak! They are Black and Tans. I didn't even know cream/white shepherds existed until her! I love to see others that look like her! 😍

Former Lurker said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 44

Wow, has this story actually managed to silence TFW? No precious puppy pictures to distract with?

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I just checked her Instagram and about an hour ago she posted a video of Nanuq:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYo7i5rAQdd/?hl=en&taken-by=kateplusmy8

kateplusmy8Ohhhhh I think I may have created a monster! #Nanuq #HerFirstIceCream #SpoiledRotten ����

just watching said...

admin, if Jon is making 6 figures, like you thought, he shouldn't be hurting for $30,000, right?

It's all so very confusing. I appreciate reading here and hearing all sides. Thanks for running this blog.

AuntieAnn said...

kateplusmy8Ohhhhh I think I may have created a monster! #Nanuq #HerFirstIceCream #SpoiledRotten

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I fell asleep before it was over. What happens at the end?

T said...

It's an Outshine Mango Frozen Yogurt Bar. Not organic. Not cheap. Her facade is falling fast....

Former Lurker said...

Admin, please put through my comment. It was a simple and polite reply to Remona. I'm not going to beat a dead horse, so I will drop the issue after this. However, since she directly addressed me, I wanted to reply to her. I didn't violate any posting rules. Thank you.

Former Lurker said...

RemonaBlue said... 39
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I really don't understand why you are so upset about people giving Jon money. Obviously you have decided not to, and I have no problem with your decision. As you said, it is Jon's business and Jon's problem. However, I did send him money, and since it MY money I can spend it on whatever I choose...so give ME a break!

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Wow, Remona. I don't know what you read in my comments that makes you conclude that I'm "so upset" merely because I have some questions and concerns about a Go Fund Me account. You are clearly the only one who's upset, and that's unfortunate and certainly not my intention at all.

Give you a break? Sheesh, I don't think I said anything that was giving you - or anyone - a hard time over donating. I didn't ask anyone not to donate, or criticize them for donating. I'm not sure why you're reading that into my comments.

Wasn't there a recent conversation here about questioning people when they set up fundraisers asking people for money? Some people like to look at the facts, as well as the history, before making a decision whether to contribute. There's nothing wrong with being smart and discerning.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


admin, if Jon is making 6 figures, like you thought, h

$$$

When did I think Jon was making six figures?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


We have no idea how that Mexico trip was paid for. Colleen may have had airline miles saved up for free plane tickets.

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The Chase line of travel rewards cards points out of this world. I don't know how they do it. I booked a flight to Paris for FREE, and that's where I am on vacation. Between that and sharing air b and b's with girlfriends, the trip is less than 500 dollars out of pocket. You can also buy excursions with points.

RoxyHelen said...

I don't think anyone here is judging anyone else for donating or not donating.

GollyGee said...

304 Likes but only 31 shares.

1,808.00

Please share! Even if you decide you don't want to donate, that is ok, but please share!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Of course the girl dog got ice cream. Did the icky, dirty boy dogs get any? Maybe they didn't finish their dinner?

The chances of TFW raising all 3 full-grown shepherds are slim to none. One of the males will disappear.

Sad but true said...

miloandjack2016 Prov. 12:10 says "A good man (NE translation says "a righteous person...") is concerned for the welfare of his animals..." You prove it daily that you love & carefully 'spoil' your furbabies...just as you have for your kids for many years now! #GoodHeartedMom ❤ @kateplusmy8

Yeah, she's spoiled her kids all right---emotionally and psychologically speaking.

Jamesvader1194 said...

Im not going to judge people either on whether or not they want to donate to jon.I just hope that he isn't scamming people.

Former Lurker said...

Admin, thank you for putting my comment through. Sorry for the duplicates; I just saw other comments getting through and wondered why mine wasn't getting posted. Hope you're enjoying your trip.

Former Lurker said...

I have the Chase rewards program also and it's very good. I just have to say that if someone needs cash, rather than cashing in the points for a trip, there's the option of applying the points to pay your bill. That would save some money that could be put towards something important, like legal fees.

Sad but true said...

Well, well. S**t, meet fan. They quoted Colleen, but it sounds like she wasn't willing to say much to ROL. And good for her.

http://radaronline.com/videos/jon-gosselin-custody-battle-kate-gosselin-fundraiser-asking-fans-pay-court-fees/

Susan1956 said...

OT for a minute before the he said-she said ROL stories about Jon and Kate start.

http://radaronline.com/videos/duggar-family-hates-joy-anna-husband-austin-shotgun-wedding-rumors-counting-on/

If true, what hypocrites. Especially Anna, still being married to child-molester Josh.

Layla said...

She sure is pushing the "I-spoil-my-pets" narrative, isn't she? Notice that nobody (Milo) said she spoils her pets until she started pointing it out herself. I think it was years ago she was bragging about how many treats Shoka got (every hour, I think she said) and said he was spoiled. Milo picked up on the "spoiled" hashtag and has been harping on how Kate spoils her pets ever since. FYI Kate, if nobody thinks your pets are spoiled and you have to TELL them how you spoil your pets--well, maybe you're creating a false narrative.

I buy Frosty Pets (dog ice cream) for my pups all the time. Especially during the summer, they love coming in from a romp in the backyard and having a nice, cool treat. They grab the little cups and run off to hide from each other while they eat them. If one of them finishes early, he/she will go looking for the other to see if they can steal the remnants of the other's treat. SO I guess that means: #IspoilmydogsmorethanKatespoilshers #ImabetterdogmommythanKate.
#Katesdogscouldonlywishtobeasspoiledasmine

No matter how many treats she gives her dogs, she's still a terrible mother.

Anonymous said...

I wish that Radar article didn't begin with, "Jon Gosselin is begging for help....". However it does go on to say that the fund was set up because his family and friends are concerned about his situation. The main thing I think is that the fund will get the additional exposure required to enable Jon to cover his expected legal fight.

bm

Formerly Duped said...

Layla said... 66

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Ha, me too. Frosty Paws or Dogsters. My dog loves them a 'rare treat' lol. Well, not so rare on the hot days. Also I have a mini ice cube tray and she loves crunching those partially melted cubes.

And it's hot here- high 80s again!

Former Lurker said...

Well, speaking of spoiled dogs, my two are certainly spoiled (and loved so much, of course). They can't stand the hot weather and enjoy that we keep our house pretty cool with the air conditioning. Our one spoiled little princess loves ice cold water from the fridge door dispenser. So, when they both come in from outside, our male dog runs to the water dish but our princess dog stands up on her hind legs and puts her front paws on the freezer door, begging for cold water from the dispenser. I just laugh and say, "Yes, I am here to serve you 24/7, your highness".

Dmasy said...

The Radar On Line article has a lot of detail. Kate is not portrayed as the ideal parent.

Interesting....

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I have the Chase rewards program also and it's very good. I just have to say that if someone needs cash, rather than cashing in the points for a trip, there's the option of applying the points to pay your bill. That would save some money that could be put towards something important, like legal fees.


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True, but you don't usually get nearly as much money if you just cash it out. They're designed to spend them directly.

With Chase it's like I think double or half double to use points on travel. A flight that normally costs 200 is only 150 using your points. Incredible value.

Points get you enough for a reasonably brief 3-star trip, but even if you were to take the much lower cash value, it wouldn't begin to scratch the surface of a lawyer bill.

Former Lurker said...

Layla, thanks for the post about Frosty Paws. I had no idea about that product. Uh oh, does that make me a bad doggy parent?

I Googled it and checked it out and it's on the shopping list now. My dogs owe you a big thank you!

Confused said...

I wish that Radar article didn't begin with, "Jon Gosselin is begging for help....". However it does go on to say that the fund was set up because his family and friends are concerned about his situation. The main thing I think is that the fund will get the additional exposure required to enable Jon to cover his expected legal fight.

bm
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Sadly, that's what I was afraid of when I first saw the GO Fund Me page. He's asking for ridicule as if he didn't have enough without doing that. There's been no activity for the past 18 hours, which will, of course, generate more ridicule. Sad, really.

Former Lurker said...

Well, in a situation like this every available amount one can put towards legal fees counts. There are people contributing $10, $15, $20 or $25 dollars.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Well, in a situation like this every available amount one can put towards legal fees counts. There are people contributing $10, $15, $20 or $25 dollars.


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Again, we don't know how they are on the trip. It could be his girlfriend's points, and maybe she doesn't want to give him cash for his problems with his ex-wife. Once you start intertwining yourself with your significant other's past it can cause problems in your own relationship. Or maybe Jon himself thinks it's a bad idea to take her money and would prefer to rely on those who he doesn't have the added layer of having a romantic relationship with.

This may be her way to "help" him by giving him ONE relaxing few days. without making it complicated. Who even knows. But Im not going to begrudge him trying to get help even though I suppose you could also sell every single thing you own to get money too, and a host of other ways you could get money without gofundme.

Layla said...

Formerly Duped,
My pups love ice cubes, too! They hear the freezer drawer sliding open and they come running. I've started filling one ice cube tray only halfway up to make smaller cubes--otherwise they'd let the cubes start to melt before eating them (so they'd be smaller) and I'd end up with puddles of water on the floor. Other times they just want to bat them around on the floor instead of eating them--ice cube hockey, we call it.

ROL had a link to an article about celebs who are not as rich as you'd think they are, and Kate was on the list. It's still being reported that her net worth is only $200K. It mentioned the ugly divorce and her period of unemployment, but I still don't believe that number. She has always portrayed herself as nearly destitute, knowing she can grift more if she's perceived to be a struggling mother rather than a millionaire. It's shocking to me that people still fall for that. She's able to maintain a very expensive piece of property, feed and clothe 7 kids and send them to private school, dash off to NYC to get her hair done (and we know she still does that--otherwise, where did "Uncle Ronnie" the NYC hairdresser come from?). No amount of coupon clipping can account for the amount of money it takes to maintain her lifestyle. Some people will believe anything as long as Kate says it.

Former Lurker said...

Good points, Admin. I think my main problem is that I just despise Go Fund Me. I'm tired of everyone asking strangers for money all the time. I'm of the mentality that you should do everything you can to help yourself, (and your kids), even if that means a second or third job pumping gas. And, if anyone wants to help you, it should start with your family.

Tucker's Mom said...

our male dog runs to the water dish but our princess dog stands up on her hind legs and puts her front paws on the freezer door, begging for cold water from the dispenser. I just laugh and say, "Yes, I am here to serve you 24/7, your highness".
^^^^^
LOL! Sounds like the hoops we sometimes jump through to please our picky-eater bichon; "Can I peel you a grape now?".

He's going through a "I don't like my food touching!" phase currently.

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm glad Jon's got the media picking up his fund page.

Layla said...

Former Lurker (72)
My dogs love Frosty Paws. There's original flavor and peanut butter. I think mine prefer the original, but I get both for a little variety. There's a similar product that I have gotten from Schwan's, but it's pretty expensive.

I contributed, but to me it's for the kids--not for Jon or Kate. They have been used and abused by their other and by TLC since birth, and it's time that someone put a stop to that. Jon isn't a perfect parent, and may not always make the best choices. But if he will step in and take action to stop the exploitation of the kids. then he is their best hope for a normal life. Kate wants a dating show. Fine, let her go get one for herself and leave the kids alone. Her fans think TLC will follow Kate on her own. Well, why not start now? There is no need to wait. The kids need their privacy back.

NJGal51 said...

Well I'm a really good dog mom! When our bully comes in from a hard play he waits for us to pour him a bowl of chilled, all natural, no sugar added coconut water. We now take it with us when we travel now because we know that he'll always lap it up and it makes us feel better to see him drink.....it's the old, if I"m thirsty he must be thirsty. We also buy him the occasional puppy sundae at Dairy Queen. Ours makes a small dish of vanilla ice cream with a drizzle of peanut butter sauce and two dog biscuits.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#81), not sure if you or our other
doggy mom posters know, but Starbucks has a dog treat on their "secret menu:" a small serving of whipped cream in their sample-size cup. It's called a doggy whip,
or puppacino, or a puppy-dog latte. Apologies in advance if your dogs are reading this over your shoulders, and are now grabbing their leashes and your car keys!

Lanc Native said...

Anyone in Chester/Berks, batten down. This is a nasty one with hail and high winds and power outages.

Former Lurker said...

Layla said... 80

Former Lurker (72)
My dogs love Frosty Paws. There's original flavor and peanut butter. I think mine prefer the original, but I get both for a little variety. There's a similar product that I have gotten from Schwan's, but it's pretty expensive.

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Layla, I saw the two flavors on their website and I plan on buying both. Knowing our two dogs, they will each have a different favorite. Lol, just like kids. I hope we have the freezer space in case this becomes a new thing with them.

As far as the fundraiser, I understand your points and I agree with your concern for the kids. We can't go back and rewrite history, but I wish Jon had invested in a better attorney years ago. It's never too late, but it's very sad how much time has gone by and how much damage has been done.

foxy said...

Former Lurker...I am with you on these GoFundMe accounts. We have one in our neighborhood to give money so a girl can enter a pageant, a man wants his transmission fixed, but he doesn't work, so many frivolous things that when it comes to a true needy fund raiser people are just fund me out. I take care of my family and when friends need a hand I am there to help them also. They in turn do the same. We have had fund raisers in our community that have been successful in helping others out. Spaghetti suppers, concerts in the local park, walking for a cause, whatever it takes. Even the neighborhood bars participate with drawings for prizes and raising funds. Just saying.

Maybe the fund raising for Jon could have been something along these efforts and it would be more successful.

NJGal51 said...

Flimsy - My bully does love the puppacino the broblem is getting that big old face close enough to lick our the whipped cream without getting it all over me!

Formerly Duped said...

Maybe Jon could host some DJ gigs ( I feel funny saying that !) where donations would go to his legal fund.Of course I don't know his work schedule and if that's feasible.

Flimsy (82) That made me laugh! My dog would love that! But I only buy the Frosty Paws or Dogsters when they are 2 for 1 or on sale. Otherwise it's mini-ice cubes!

SaraMRN2010 said...

Layla said... 76
ROL had a link to an article about celebs who are not as rich as you'd think they are, and Kate was on the list. It's still being reported that her net worth is only $200K. It mentioned the ugly divorce and her period of unemployment, but I still don't believe that number. She has always portrayed herself as nearly destitute, knowing she can grift more if she's perceived to be a struggling mother rather than a millionaire.
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Layla,
I don’t believe Kate is destitute or only has $200K. She generated money from Beth’s book, plus the magazine covers, and tv interviews. She also received a tidy sum didn’t she for DWTS and Celebrity Apprentice. I also think she had some good sound investment advice. Plus, she and Jon netted all of the profits until November of 2009 per this article http://www.startribune.com/templates/Print_This_Story?sid=90821964
If we go back season 1 had 8 episodes, season 2 had 12 episodes, season 3 had 31 episodes and season 4 had 41 episodes and season 5 had 23 episodes. Season 5 began May 2009 and ended November 2009. If the above article is correct, J&K netted everything until K+8. I guess it is possible they had to go back and pay the kids their share but again at 15% split 8 ways that isn’t really a lot of money.
My personal opinion is Kate is sitting on a nice little nest of money.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Formerly Duped (#87), the Starbucks doggy whip is supposed to be free. Give it a try!

Layla said...

SaraMRN2010 (88)
She definitely has a pile of money stashed away. She's savvy--she knows she can get more from people if they think she's destitute, so that's the card she plays. I remember the celeb net worth sites were saying she was worth $5M, and then changed it to just $200K when she started her "poor little piecing and patching me" talk show rounds. The last few years have probably taken a chunk of her funds away--first she was mostly unemployed for almost 3 years, and now since the show came back the number of episodes filmed and her salary have been limited. But I definitely believe she is still sitting pretty. Maybe not as rich as she wants to be, but she has money. It remains to be seen just how long it will last her. Will she ever have to work again? If not, then what will she do? Can she retire on what she has? I guess I don't really care as long as the kids get to go to college. And they really should get the house since Kate and Jon said when they bought it that it was for the kids and that the kids deserve it. I agree--they do.

capecodmama said...

Enjoy your trip Admin!

Tucker's Mom said...

Admin!! Please get me a French yogurt maker while you're there!
I don't care if I can't plug it into my wall socket!!

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Tucker's Mom said... 92
Admin!! Please get me a French yogurt maker while you're there!
I don't care if I can't plug it into my wall socket!!

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It looks impressive on your kitchen counter and you could brag about it. Doesn't matter if it's not plugged in.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sheepless (#93), it looks especially impressive when viewed from your leather couch, your outdoor pool, or your lesbian deck!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Today is Tuesday. I can only imagine how unpleasant the interaction was between TFW and Jon.

GollyGee said...

Sheepless In Seattle said... 93
Tucker's Mom said... 92
Admin!! Please get me a French yogurt maker while you're there!
I don't care if I can't plug it into my wall socket!!

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It looks impressive on your kitchen counter and you could brag about it. Doesn't matter if it's not plugged in.

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Reminds me of years ago. Susan Dey of the Partridge Family and LA Law was a guest on David Letterman. They were talking and you know how Dave loves to ask those questions that sting.

He asked Susan if they even bothered to plug up the instruments when they would show them play. She played the keyboard. She laughed, but the kind of laugh like, get me out of here. She was very uncomfortable.

I haven't seen her on a talk show ever since.

GollyGee said...

Oh, she has money!

Remember Gina who worked or still works for the investment firm? And the SK8 or K8S LLC that they had years ago? She has funneled a lot of money to off shore accounts, I am sure.

When she was suppose to be worth 5 million dollars and then all of a sudden it dropped to 200K right before the poor pitiful single mom doing it alone can't pay my bills tour.

I think Julie May made sure it was changed to 200K.

GollyGee said...

1,928 in 3 days.

Average per day: 642.00
Average donation: 62.00

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


When did I think Jon was making six figures?
*****
Back when you were claiming that Jon was a high-end DJ and not just someone doing two-bit gigs on the side.

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I said DJing if you're good could be very lucrative and that's true. There is no guarantee. Some Dj's make that, some don't. I have no idea what Jon's bank account says how would I? The proposal as I recall by some was that wasn't a good job and that Jon shouldn't bother and that's simply not necessarily true. And quite frankly even six figures is likely not enough to touch a family law attorneys bill for a case like this. Next?

Former Lurker said...

From her dog video on IG - Sadly, she is more interested and knows more about what her dog likes than she does about any of her kids, especially the icky boys (and, most especially, C):

bkovs717Those chuck-it balls are the best ever, right? Our GSD loves them AND can't destroy them. Best combo.

kateplusmy8@bkovs717 Yes! She loves the glow in the dark ones and actually 'teeths' on it still.. must feel good on her teeth/gums .. we have tons of them! Also, the kong crunchy/crinkle balls are indestructible too and same size so you may want to try those too if your gsd likes the crunchy/crackle sound! ��

AuntieAnn said...

Sheepless In Seattle said... 93
Tucker's Mom said... 92
Admin!! Please get me a French yogurt maker while you're there!
I don't care if I can't plug it into my wall socket!!

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It looks impressive on your kitchen counter and you could brag about it. Doesn't matter if it's not plugged in.

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lol! Kate and her global shopping. Don't forget to order Vegemite from Australia. Cuz, ya know, it is nowhere to be found in North America.

Gayle said...

In her latest post (dog eating ice cream) Kate says of the dog: She's a sable king shepherd. Her Dad is Shoka and her brother from the same litter is Mak! They are Black and Tans. I didn't even know cream/white shepherds existed until her! I love to see others that look like her.

My question to those that know the GSD breed. Is the dog a sable or a cream/white. I always thought the sable had some black in it as the fur is black tipped (they do have darker colouring in other breeds). Does Kate just not know what she's talking about. Sable, after all, is a dark colour.

Tucker's Mom said...

lol! Kate and her global shopping. Don't forget to order Vegemite from Australia. Cuz, ya know, it is nowhere to be found in North America.
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Cuz, I've never seen it at World Market or the "International" section of a supermarket!
Seriously, even my "crap" market carries it.
It's de rigueur!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

. His work is steady and consistent

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Notwithstanding how very creepy it is you've gone back that far to prove some petty point, at the time I said that Jon seemed to be pretty hot in the dj world and was doing a whole lot of gigs. For whatever reason by his choice or not, things have really scaled back since then. Maybe a gig or two a month. Obviously, my initial comment assumed he would continue to do hot gigs and continue to do them consistently. That's not what has happened since. So what?

I also stand by my comment that six figures doesn't begin to pay for a family law case. If you don't want to pay his lawyer bills then don't. I'm not. What's the problem exactly if someone else does? It's your choice.

I See Sheeple said...

Admin, with all due respect, why even bother arguing with these comments that you're not even posting? You're just giving the sheeple fodder for their blog. It gives them something to do and something to talk about. It would drive them insane if you just ignored them completely.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



If six figures doesn't begin to pay a family law attorney, then maybe you all should reconsider your hourly rates and stop being so full of greed. Just a thought.

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My services are free and always have been so you really don't know what you're talking about.

As far as family law attorney rates, if you want the skills to make it through a tough family law case you have to pay. This is not something any ole bloke off the street can do for you. Not to mention the extensive schooling and examination your attorney paid for themselves. You get what you pay for. The free market should determine rates, not your whining.

Sad but true said...

Gayle said... 102

I think sable is the darker sort of gray/brown. Here's a description of the colors from a breeder website:

"Colors of King German Shepherds are similar to that of the regular German Shepherd – sable, black and tan, bi-color, solid black and solid white. The black and tan, solid black and solid white King German Shepherds in particular seem to be popular."

http://thedailyshep.com/king-german-shepherd/

I guess she's referring to Shoka and Mak as sable? Nunu certainly is not a sable. Interesting, I just read that this breed is known as difficult to train---which I guess K8 has demonstrated, LOL.

Susan1956 said...

Watching show Diana & The Paparazzi on Smithsonian TV & they mentioned how she manipulated the press at times. Wonder if Kate's called her personal paparazzo yet?

Gayle said...

I guess she's referring to Shoka and Mak as sable? Nunu certainly is not a sable. Interesting, I just read that this breed is known as difficult to train---which I guess K8 has demonstrated, LOL.

Sad but true she seems to be always referring to Nunu and calls her a "sable" king shepherd. I'm glad I'm not crazy in my thinking that "sable" is much darker than NuNu seems to be. She calls the other two "black and tans" (which is one of my favorite beers).

Layla said...

Admin (104)
I think it's a strategic move for Jon to take a regular job and scale back on his DJ gigs. If he is going for a change in custody, Kate could use his DJ gigs against him in court. She could claim that the kids are in school all day, and he is working at night, so he couldn't be a "present" parent. And she could make the argument that he does not have a consistent income. I think he is going all in this time--doing whatever it takes to convince the court that he deserves equal custody.

Jillygee said...

I googled King Shepherd and easily found this :


The King Shepherd comes in a wide range of acceptable colors. These are as follows: sable (brownish tan with brown or black markings, or grayish silver with black markings); black saddle with tan, gold, cream, tan or silver markings.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Admin (104)
I think it's a strategic move for Jon to take a regular job and scale back on his DJ gigs. If he is going for a change in custody, Kate could use his DJ gigs against him in court. She could claim that the kids are in school all day, and he is working at night, so he couldn't be a "present" parent


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As a single parent who is aiming to have the kids more frequently, he's probably better off ditching weekend gigs. Not because there is something wrong with a parent who works weekends. But, it's harder, because athose parents need to figure out who will be with the kids at night, who even though they are older still probably shouldn't be left alone at night, plus who will take the kids to weekend outings and commitments, since most of them don't drive yet, keep on top of their homework, and most importantly, spend time with them when they're not in school. That could end up costing a lot more money and hassle.

As a single parent with not as many backup plans as two parent households tend to have, it can be really crucial to have a job that mirrors a child's school schedule. Unfortunately that's unlikely to ever be DJing. The same fate could befall a firefighter or doctor, the judge will want to know what your plan is for when you have to work on your custodial time, and he'll want details.

Formerly Duped said...

What is Jon's other job/ I missed this- I knew he was heavily involved in DJ work

AuntieAnn said...


As a single parent with not as many backup plans as two parent households tend to have, it can be really crucial to have a job that mirrors a child's school schedule.

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This demonstrates what kind of bias in Kate's favor the court must have had for their custody agreement. She yanked all eight out of school for tnat Auzzie trip, and more than likely a few more times for filming purposes. She had to have the kids earn a living because she sure as hell can't do it on her own. I still don't see how she got away with it.

GollyGee said...

She's got her a big `ol house, ya'll!

http://www.thombeauty.com/2017/08/30/mama-june-is-living-the-dream-in-new-house/

GollyGee said...

Did TFW say she "willed" away Post-Partum Depression?

shabbychicgirlfromfl@kateplusmy8 I have always admired your strength and Perseverance! I watched you since the beginning! Was so sad how some people changed! I had the same situation minus 7 kid's! I wasn't well and still(after many year's) I had horrible, horrible postpartum! Which with divorce and betrayal +life being life "debilitating depression" Being as strong as you are, you might not believe in depression (assumption) I function well on it when I still was married! Lost myself through the year's! It is sad because I was strong and a high multi tasking person! I decorated homes! Not even a paint chip does it for me! I really meant to make it about you, not me! Love to watch your family over the year's and I applaud you🙌🙌👏👏👏🎆🎉🎀

GollyGee said...

Is this a CLUE? Even if Collin was out west, TFW wouldn't shed a tear for him UNLESS she was in NYC on a grief television tour with Steve and getting paid for it.

miloandjack2016Hey...hope all is well and safe for your #CloseFrs out West!! Over 100 serious wildfires being reported in those western states today. And prayers now not only for #Harvey storm survivors...here comes #Irma!! 😞 @kateplusmy8
miloandjack2016Ugh...that was supposed to say #CLOSEFRIENDS!! 😇

GollyGee said...

First Harvey, now Irma, Jose and Katina.

Someone local posted about a storm in TFW's area. I was wondering if all of her driveway trees were going to be destroyed, AGAIN in the storm.

Sad but true said...

Milo, why don't you hire a plane with a banner to fly over her house? You know K8 doesn't give a flying f**k about others. She doesn't see them---remember?

miloandjack2016 Hey...hope all is well and safe for your #CloseFrs out West!! Over 100 serious wildfires being reported in those western states today. And prayers now not only for #Harvey storm survivors...here comes #Irma!! 😞 @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016 Ugh...that was supposed to say #CLOSEFRIENDS!! 😇

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Prince Harry's girlfriend and an American across on Suits had this to say about her parents' divorce:

"What’s so incredible, you know, is that my parents split up when I was two, [but] I never saw them fight. We would still take vacations together. My dad would come on Sundays to drop me off, and we’d watch Jeopardy! eating dinner on TV trays, the three of us. . . . We were still so close-knit.”

I suspect Prince Harry sees a grounded and well adjusted woman who also grew up a kid of a divorce, but whose parents did their darnedest to not make that divorce define their child, who had no choice in the matter and just wanted to feel love.

Can you imagine Jon coming over and joining them for one of their stupid movie nights? Sheesh.

Formerly Duped said...

lol Jon was in the first movie night episode where they watched an animal show in the basement and popcorn with a surprise as a 'tradition' was born. Kate the party pooper told Jon they had to stop, she was exhausted-ish and he could put them to bed- not sure if that was the time he said "it's 6 o'clock?"

NJGal51 said...

Jillygee said... 111
I googled King Shepherd and easily found this :


The King Shepherd comes in a wide range of acceptable colors. These are as follows: sable (brownish tan with brown or black markings, or grayish silver with black markings); black saddle with tan, gold, cream, tan or silver markings.
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Thanks for that, I never bothered to look it up. I'd have to agree that TFW seems to have latched on to the word "sable" and doesn't really know what she's talking about because she always refers to Nanuk as a sable king shepherd which, by all appearances, she doesn't seem to be. She seems to be more of a cream. Who knows, maybe her fur will darken as she gets older.

Susan1956 said...

GollyGee said... 115
She's got her a big `ol house, ya'll!

http://www.thombeauty.com/2017/08/30/mama-june-is-living-the-dream-in-new-house/
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Love the quote at the end.

Mama June gave some advice to those who may let money get to them, “Don’t ever forget where you come from, because in a minute it can be gone.”

GollyGee said...

Formerly Duped said... 121
lol Jon was in the first movie night episode where they watched an animal show in the basement and popcorn with a surprise as a 'tradition' was born. Kate the party pooper told Jon they had to stop, she was exhausted-ish and he could put them to bed- not sure if that was the time he said "it's 6 o'clock?".

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This proves how horribly, mentally ill she is.

She can't stand anyone that she allows around her to be happy and she plays the victim in each event, every single time!

She wanted to make Jon shut down movie night with popcorn with all the kids that were being good and watching the movie at 6 pm at night? If she was so TIRED and SLUGGISH then GO TO BED!

Jon would of had no problem getting them tucked in after the movie.

Same thing with the Pumpkin Carving in the garage. Kids all patiently waiting their turn for their daddy to carve their pumpkin. And she lost it. I have posted about PumpkinGate many times and I will spare you.

This time!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Did TFW say she "willed" away Post-Partum Depression?

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I thought she said that she didn't have time for it, but my memory isn't what it used to be.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Admin, with all due respect, why even bother arguing with these comments that you're not even posting? You're just giving the sheeple fodder for their blog. It gives them something to do and something to talk about. It would drive them insane if you just ignored them completely.

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I agree with that. Remember the olden days when we agreed with everything they said. Drove them nuts.

Sad but true said...

Formerly Duped said... 113
What is Jon's other job/ I missed this- I knew he was heavily involved in DJ work
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I think he's doing promotions for other DJs. Not sure what that entails, but it sounds like he's making a living at it.

NJGal51 said...

GollyGee said...This proves how horribly, mentally ill she is.
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Not for nothin' but not everything TFW does is a sign of mental illness. If she walks like a bitch and talks like a bitch, maybe she's just a bitch (and a party pooper). No hate, just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

The Go Fund Me fund for Jon now totals just over $2,000. with a third beautiful comment added.

bm

Former Lurker said...

Anonymous said... 129

The Go Fund Me fund for Jon now totals just over $2,000. with a third beautiful comment added.

bm

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I see that comment about a father's love. But, I had checked it earlier today and the third comment that was posted was rather nasty. It's now deleted.

AuntieAnn said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 126
Admin, with all due respect, why even bother arguing with these comments that you're not even posting? You're just giving the sheeple fodder for their blog. It gives them something to do and something to talk about. It would drive them insane if you just ignored them completely.

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I agree with that. Remember the olden days when we agreed with everything they said. Drove them nuts.

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That was my thought too. I'm in agrreance with agreeance.

Sherry Baby said...

GollyGee said...This proves how horribly, mentally ill she is.
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Not for nothin' but not everything TFW does is a sign of mental illness. If she walks like a bitch and talks like a bitch, maybe she's just a bitch (and a party pooper). No hate, just my opinion.

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Yep. Maybe there isn't any mental illness. Could be that she's just a cruel, nasty, controlling, greedy,spiteful, egotistical person filled to the brim with hate for her ex.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51(#122), I think TFW uses the word "sable" like she uses the word "organic" -- as some kind of status symbol. She's such a poser.

capecodmama said...

TFW can have her "sable" GSD. My late GSD was a gorgeous black and red color. His red color was absolutely stunning when he was in the sun. I'll take that any day over her "sable".

Former Lurker said...

GollyGee said... 115
She's got her a big `ol house, ya'll!

http://www.thombeauty.com/2017/08/30/mama-june-is-living-the-dream-in-new-house/
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I never watched their old show, just saw a couple of clips years ago. But, heaven help me, I did see an episode of her new show on the WE channel back in March, (flipping channels late at night, came across it, was curious, etc.). It was the From Not to Hot show, or whatever they called it. It was about June's weight loss surgery, huge weight loss, and her follow up cosmetic surgeries.

Based on the filming of the show, I think they've probably been in the house about a year now. As you can tell by the photo, the house is a basic center hall colonial. Obviously, it's much nicer and much larger than her old house. I don't really follow her, so I watched with curiosity wondering how she bought that house and can afford it if her old show was cancelled and she doesn't seem to have a job

The house could be nice inside, but June and the kids have totally crapped it up. What's supposed to be the living room, to the right of the front door, has nothing in it but a treadmill in the middle of the room facing the front window. What I think is supposed to be the dining room is filled with racks of her stockpiles of laundry detergent and stuff, and there's a small table in there where she does her coupons. In the back of the house, the kitchen opens into the family room. There's junk all over the kitchen counters, and the family room just has a couple of ugly brown couches and a recliner. There's nothing at all on any of the walls and absolutely no decorating sense at all. Also, June's bedroom is totally sad. It looks like the mattress is on the floor, and the room is just messy.

Kylie said...

Gayle, we have German Shepherds and they are so intelligent and very easy to train. It amazes me how fast they pick up on what you are teaching them.

Former Lurker said...

Comment on her IG dog video:

deborahcohen1216let Jon see his kids ... you are only hurting them and they will grow up to resent you,

NJGal51 said...

capecodmama - My bully is a red brindle and you're right, in the sunlight the red is beautiful!

RoxyHelen said...

GollyGee said... 124 , this is the woman who couldn't allow her 4 year olds to roll around in grass or her 3 year olds to enjoy an ice cream with some messines. Your kid is at disney, having an ice cream, gets some on her dress and you need to instantly ruin it by yelling and making the child cry? Horrible mother.

Remember when she said that she can't afford a stained outfit because that's SIX OUTFITS she has to throw out? Yet had the gal to turn around and cry poor. Poor people don't toss out a stained outfit, they make it a home/play outfit. Poor people sure as heck can't afford to toss out the remaining perfect 5 outfits just because the world might not realize their kids are tups unless they are dressed like clones.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

RoxyHelen (#139), and I remember Jon's response to TFW's freak-out over ice cream on the kids' clothes: "Let 'em BATHE in it." He had his priorities straight. And Jon also knew what we all found out later: TFW had a TON of help around the house. No, she was not standing over the washer for hours, frantically pretreating clothes, with 8 little ones to take care of, and a neverending to-do list. That was a part she played on TV.

GollyGee said...





RoxyHelen said...139

Remember when she said that she can't afford a stained outfit because that's SIX OUTFITS she has to throw out? Yet had the gal to turn around and cry poor. Poor people don't toss out a stained outfit, they make it a home play outfit.

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She always got as many matching outfits that she could for filming for free. Then she used her Iron Fist threatening the kids not to get one stain on those clothes because she would take them to the consignment shop to get top dollar for them.

The kids have been traumatized by this. The pressure she put on them not to stain the clothes! When Jon took the boys golfing, the boys wouldn't get off of the golf cart because they were terrified that they would get a stain on them.

Jon said, your mother, she's crazy.

She intended to make every red cent she could make off of these kids.

Filming, clothes, the books. She reminds me of a Cat. 5 Hurricane that hit as soon as the babies came out of her womb. Their life has been a chaotic mess every day of their lives. Screaming, hitting, the beatings, the abuse, not feeding them like a normal mother, sending moldy food trying to force them to eat it because she didn't want to pay for another sandwich, making them work and robbing their childhood, not getting them treated medically like a normal mom would because of getting the check docked for a child not being able to film.

GollyGee said...

Oh, yes, she is mentally ill.

Her immediate family members said that she is bi-polar and refuses to take her meds.

Robert said that one day when the kids were babies, she took all of the kids to a local park and a lady and her 2 or 3 kids went with her.

Robert was floored that he saw her perfectly normal. She looked like a normal mom, swinging the kids, laughing, like normal. Robert said she must of took her meds that morning.


AuntieAnn said...

Susan1956 said... 123
GollyGee said... 115
She's got her a big `ol house, ya'll!

http://www.thombeauty.com/2017/08/30/mama-june-is-living-the-dream-in-new-house/
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Love the quote at the end.

Mama June gave some advice to those who may let money get to them, “Don’t ever forget where you come from, because in a minute it can be gone.”

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"The lovable reality star recently opened her doors and let the world take a look inside their new place."

Ok. I guess I've been out of the loop longer than I realized. When did Mama June become 'lovable' and when did she start looking like Mama Kate's twin? Does the world of reality tv really need two of these creatures?

Susan1956 said...

AuntieAnn said... 143

"The lovable reality star recently opened her doors and let the world take a look inside their new place."

Ok. I guess I've been out of the loop longer than I realized. When did Mama June become 'lovable' and when did she start looking like Mama Kate's twin? Does the world of reality tv really need two of these creatures?
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My vote is no, but at least she wasn't pimping Honey Boo Boo in this latest round (I may be wrong as I didn't watch the show(s), but I thought it focused on her weight loss and follow-up surgeries).

Reality TV just keeps getting stranger/sinking to a new low on TLC. From 90 Day Fiancee where one half of the couple needs a green card in order to stay in the US and a nursing mama from Rattled went to a nightclub and went off to a dark corner in order to pump.

*Disclaimer--I'm not actually watching these shows, it's just what I've gleaned while channel surfing. In the case of the Rattled 'star', I read something online about the incident.

I will say that TLC seems to be keeping the Busbys pretty grounded (again, I don't watch the show in it's entirety because both parents grate on my nerves, but will tune in for a few minutes every once in a while)--no exotic trips so far, but the girls are only 2 so I guess there's time for all that later.

Sad but true said...

AuntieAnn said... 143

Oh yes, after Marriage Boot Camp (or Couples Therapy) with the now-married-elsewhere Sugar Bear, June landed herself a show called (brace yourself) "From Not to Hot." And she got the full body make-over---gastric surgery, excess skin removal surgery, plastic on her face, etc. You name it, she had it. I think she's this show is going into a 2d season for her? Maybe they're going to work on her "inner" beauty this time around, get her a 4-yr college degree in 90 days or something. Or they'll make it a dating show (sorry, K8!). Just exactly like K8, she's gonna ride that reality TV train to its final destination. Which is, hopefully, Oblivion.

AuntieAnn said...

Susan1956 said...
Reality TV just keeps getting stranger/sinking to a new low on TLC. From 90 Day Fiancee where one half of the couple needs a green card in order to stay in the US and a nursing mama from Rattled went to a nightclub and went off to a dark corner in order to pump.

*Disclaimer--I'm not actually watching these shows, it's just what I've gleaned while channel surfing. In the case of the Rattled 'star', I read something online about the incident.

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I'm the same. I don't think I've watched a single show on TLC in four years. I have nothing but contempt for a network that makes millions upon millions from exploiting children and people who have severe mental or physical challenges. TLC of course isn't the only network that's gone down that path, but by far it is the biggest offender of that type of programming imo.

To this day I still don't understand why it is called Reality TV when these shows, especially the ones focused on HOM families, are anything BUT reality.

AuntieAnn said...

Sad but true said...
Just exactly like K8, she's gonna ride that reality TV train to its final destination. Which is, hopefully, Oblivion.

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Let's hope they put Kate in the refrigeration car of that train once and for all this time.

Last night I watched Worst Cooks in America: Celebrity Edition and thought to myself now there's a show for TFW to be on, but Food Network probably doesn't want to have anything to do with the ogress either.

Susan1956 said...

Hmmm, this sounds so familiar.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/adam-busby-danielle-busby-nanny-141253

FlimsyFlamsy said...

AuntieAnn (#147), I'm convinced that even if there was a show called "Mothers Of Multiples Who've Written Cookbooks," TFW still wouldn't be asked to participate. Really, what was the last non-K+8 TV appearance she's made? So many opportunities squandered.

Sad but true said...

Susan1956 said... 148

And if they run true to K8 form, they'll have a full-time nanny all the way up to 12 years old! Did they really think they'd get away with the lie? Why DO they have to claim they're "doing it all ALONE"? Does that somehow make it more interesting? "I just don't get it." :)

AuntieAnn said...

FlimsyFlamsy 149 - hard to believe she's never appeared on a genuine cooking show after the disatrous cookbook tour was over, isn' t it? lol

What...nobody wants to cook her "delightful do-able dinners"? I just can't understand why that is.

NJGal51 said...

GollyGee said... 142 Oh, yes, she is mentally ill.
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She may well be mentally ill and I don't think anyone is questioning that she has issues. However, as I stated in 132 above, not everything she does is a sign of mental illness. I just want to be fair and the "mental illness" term is thrown around pretty fast and loose sometimes. I will leave it at that and won't argue the point.

NJGal51 said...

Last night I watched Worst Cooks in America: Celebrity Edition and thought to myself now there's a show for TFW to be on, but Food Network probably doesn't want to have anything to do with the ogress either.
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She'd never be able to be on that show because all her meals rate a 10 from the kids AND she wrote a cookbook. She probably thinks that she's on equal footing with Rachel and Ann!

Former Lurker said...

Susan1956 said... 148

Hmmm, this sounds so familiar.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/adam-busby-danielle-busby-nanny-141253

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From the article:

"...Their old Nanny was showed a few times last season but was just labeled as a 'babysitter.'"

Sooo familiar. Not only are the nannies just "sitters", but I bet TLC is paying for it!

Former Lurker said...

To any posters in Florida, and other areas that might be affected, I'm wishing you luck with Hurricane Irma. Hoping and praying it moves east out to the Atlantic!

AuntieAnn said...

NJGal51 said...

However, as I stated in 132 above, not everything she does is a sign of mental illness. I just want to be fair and the "mental illness" term is thrown around pretty fast and loose sometimes. I will leave it at that and won't argue the point.

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Very true. I don't think anyone chooses to have a mental disorder any more than they would choose to have freckles or a speech impediment.

That said, I think Kate chooses to ignore that she has mental health concerns. She pretty much sees herself as flawless and it's everyone else who has a problem.

AuntieAnn said...

She'd never be able to be on that show because all her meals rate a 10 from the kids AND she wrote a cookbook. She probably thinks that she's on equal footing with Rachel and Ann!

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...And waiting for a call to Beat Bobby Flay.

Some of those celebs on Worst Cooks are pretty entertaining. Carson Kressley is a hoot in that kitchen.

Former Lurker said...

After reading here last week about the A&E six part series on the murder of Laci Peterson, we recorded the first three episodes that we had missed and we caught up over the weekend. Part four was on last night, and it seems to me that they're trying hard to defend Scott.

For those interested in the case, I read in this article that ABC has a two hour special on next Thursday 9/14 at 9 PM ET:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4859422/Laci-Peterson-s-mother-Sharon-recounts-visit.html

Former Lurker said...

I've noticed since last night that on the Go Fund Me page, it says:

This campaign is trending!

https://www.gofundme.com/2z996-a-dads-chance-to-fight


With such little activity, how is it exactly "trending"? Does anyone know how they decide that? Maybe it's because it says there have been 634 shares on Facebook.

Susan1956 said...

AuntieAnn said... 146
Sad but true said... 150
Former Lurker said... 154

There does seem to be a lot of one-upmanship, which eventually = branding, among (some) HOM families--remember Khate's comments re: the HOM mother that was not very far along in her pregnancy? Who cares if you had to spend 888 days on bedrest or eat 8 pounds of bacon a day? Thank the heavens above you successfully delivered healthy babies and if you're lucky enough to be able to afford or have nanny services provided to you as a result/part of your TV contract, it doesn't matter if the public knows it. Most rational people wouldn't criticize the family for it as raising any number of children is hard work.

*Story time--scroll past if it's boring. My maternal grandparents raised 5 children (born over a 10 year span) during the years of the depression/early WWII on a farm. At different times during those years they opened their home to their bedridden mothers. Grandma was in charge of the house and their care, but Grandpa would come in from the field every few hours to turn his/her mother as Grandma was under 5 feet tall and usually pregnant. If they could have afforded or had space to house a 'hired girl', I'm sure they would have done that and no one would have faulted them. But it wasn't an option so they just got on with it. I never heard about any of this, but do have lots of memories about stories of the good old days & the children's antics, until my oldest aunt's health declined and decisions had to be made about her care.

But it's a different world now. The propensity of Khate to outright lie about the amount of help she has had over the years is mind-boggling and has not won her any PR points, just the opposite. It also breaks my heart that a lot of the narrative the sextuplets have been told by Khate is how hard taking care of them has been and to see the impact helping to raise their siblings has had on Mady & Cara.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

She'd never be able to be on that show because all her meals rate a 10 from the kids AND she wrote a cookbook.

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Nobody has the cookbook. It's still on pre-order.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I was reading that the Hemingway House in Key West no doubt will be destroyed, but the staff is staying there to take care of the cats. I love that house, and always visit it when in Key West. I hope to heavens that it somehow is spared.

High Sodium Content said...

Adam Busby is an odd duck. Now he has paternal post partum? Give me a break. Never heard of a man with a big family that has the "luxury" of all the focus on him. Feel sorry for his wife. He also lied to his therapist "on camera", about his STRESS of being the sole supporter of the family. Duh, you're being filmed during therapy for a TV show you are getting paid to do.

GollyGee said...

AuntieAnn said... 151
FlimsyFlamsy 149 - hard to believe she's never appeared on a genuine cooking show after the disatrous cookbook tour was over, isn' t it? lol

What...nobody wants to cook her "delightful do-able dinners"? I just can't understand why that is.

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Remember her being on Hallmark Home and Family?

The small meatloaf that she made in the loaf pan. She said that it was enough to feed ALL of her 8 kids, herself and have left overs for a couple of days! She was squishing the ground beef or turkey, can't remember and she was trying to talk and you could just tell she was wanting to stop trying to demo the cooking and just talk to them about herself!

That cute boy Jack? the young chef that was on Home and Family! He is adorable and SMART as a whip! He could multi-task a cooking demo, talk to the hosts, tell jokes, stories and show the finished product like a pro.

Poor FW. She just doesn't have the it factor.

We know what factor she has.

AuntieAnn said...

GollyGee - that kid knew his way around the kitchen. I remember Kate sitting at the counter watching him. She HAD to be embarrassed about her stupid-simple meatloaf. But I don't think those things bother her. All she was ever concerned about was that she was staying visible on tv and away from her kids when she went on trips with her flying monkey.

Former Lurker said...

I'm craving meatloaf now...

LOL

And I mean my meatloaf, certainly not TFW's.

NJGal51 said...

Saw this posted on FB today:

Narcissists don't co-parent they counter-parent. They don't care about the collateral emotional damage done to the children, as long as it hurts you.

capecodmama said...

NJGal51....Your red brindle bully sounds gorgeous! My oldest daughter had a brindle Boston Terrier and she was a pretty little thing.

Everyone in the path of Irma, stay safe.

Layla said...

I make Jack Witherspoon's shepherd's pie recipe pretty often--it is so good! That boy knew his way around the kitchen. How old was he then? 12 or 13. Can you imagine him with a babysitter? But Kate still complained about not having a babysitter for her 12- and 16-year-olds during the Halloween episode. Doesn't she understand how ridiculous she sounds? I swear, she'll still be complaining about her lack of a babysitter when then tups are 18. No wonder Hannah wants to be with Jon. He probably treats her like a 13-year-old, not a 3-year-old like her mother does.

I've said this before and I'll say it again--Kate has money, so why doesn't she hire a babysitter/housekeeper/party help if she needs them so badly? Probably because she wants TLC to pay for them, but that ship has sailed. Her unlimited budget is a thing of the past, even if they do film in the future. So she needs to either spend her own money or shut up about it.

GollyGee said...

Former Lurker said... 166
I'm craving meatloaf now...

LOL

And I mean my meatloaf, certainly not TFW's.

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But, but, but, if you make that small meatloaf like HER'S, it will feed you, your family and have leftovers for days and days!

GollyGee said...

Thanks, Auntie Ann for mentioning Jack and TFW were on at the same time. I had forgotten that. I knew they were both on but forgot at the same time. Now I remember how she would look at him, like she couldn't believe how poised, fun and smart as a whip he was!

The same look she gave Robert and Bindi Irwin.

Former Lurker said...

I might have missed something, but are we sure TFW has no household help? Didn't she just complain about having no help in a recent episode? I really don't believe she doesn't have "helpers", as she used to refer to her paid employees. And, she probably pays for them out of the kids' accounts.

Former Lurker said...

Layla (169), thanks for mentioning Jack's shepherd's pie recipe. I Googled it and will try it soon.

GollyGee (171), I Googled and found the recipe on the show's website. There's a nine minute video of his segment and TFW is there with the others watching him cook:

http://www.hallmarkchannel.com/home-and-family/recipes/jack-witherspoons-shepherds-pie

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I just read on People that there's a celebrity version of Big Brother coming in the winter. Maybe Schmoopy
has a shot at that. You know she'd ditch the kids in a heartbeat.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The free market breeds greed. Just because you can charge a certain amount doesn't mean you should. It's legal for someone on StubHub to be charging $25,000 a seat for the last night of a popular Broadway run, but that does not mean it is not the action of a greedy pig. I'm not whining, I am stating an opinion. The problem, of course, is that opinion happens to differ from yours.

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Oh, I see, you're a socialist. You think government should set prices instead of the people. Be careful with that when it comes to lawyers, the government is all lawyers. $350 an hour may suddenly become $2,000 an hour. Poor you, you can't see Hamilton for the $10 you want to pay because the free market ruined your dreams. So unfortunate.

The free market should set prices, period.

Layla said...

Former Lurker (173)
Definitely try it, it's my favorite shepherd's pie recipe. My husband and kids love it, too! Sadly, Kate's meatloaf is not up to their standards. They like meatloaf with some flavor, which hers is sorely lacking. And they won't eat it without the standard brown sugar-ketchup-mustard glaze--and lots of it. I have to make double the amount of glaze. They know what they like.

Former Lurker, she's been complaining non-stop about her lack of "helpers". I don't watch the show, but I read admin's recaps and it seems like every episode includes a rant about her lack of help. Why does she think she needs a babysitter when her kids are old enough to babysit other kids? She claims no help but we know she has people to take care of the lawn and the pool, and has groomers who even pick the dogs up at her house and drop them off. I'd be surprised if she doesn't have a housekeeper. I can't imagine she'd scrub all those toilets herself. She probably makes the boys do it. The icky jobs are for the icky boys.

Tucker's Mom said...

Ok. I guess I've been out of the loop longer than I realized. When did Mama June become 'lovable' and when did she start looking like Mama Kate's twin? Does the world of reality tv really need two of these creatures?
^^^^^
I think it is SO funny how much June now looks like Kate!
June is still the disgusting creature she's always been. Anyone who would cavort and sleep with a pedophile is debased.
She's just another reality tv famewhore who will do anything to keep her mug on tv.

AuntieAnn said...

I think it is SO funny how much June now looks like Kate!
June is still the disgusting creature she's always been. Anyone who would cavort and sleep with a pedophile is debased.
She's just another reality tv famewhore who will do anything to keep her mug on tv.

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Funnier still that Kate looks like June. Ouch.

What's with TLC anyway? Is it written into the contract that in order to get a show on their network you must be willing to exploit your children AND expose them to pedos. Sure seems like it's a fairly common occurance with them.

AuntieAnn said...

Dmasy - wishing you a belated Happy Birthday. I hope you enjoyed your milestone event.

GollyGee said...

In a 2009 interview, Jon explained that his former in-laws, Charlene and Kenton Kreider, are just “not involved” because they wanted to be “drop-in grandparents” — and it didn’t work for Kate and her then-husband. He explained that they have 19 grandchildren total, and the Kreiders “aren’t involved with any of them,” despite living near Kate and her brood — 16-year-old twins Mady and Cara, and 13-year-old sextuplets Aaden, Alexis, Collin, Hannah, Leah, and Joel — in Pennsylvania.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-parents-137496

Tucker's Mom said...

GollyGee said... 180
In a 2009 interview, Jon explained that his former in-laws, Charlene and Kenton Kreider, are just “not involved” because they wanted to be “drop-in grandparents” — and it didn’t work for Kate and her then-husband.
^^^^^^
I remember thinking that Jon was spewing Kate's lies. He definitely used to do it.
He also said the kids love filming and it didn't harm them at all.
He knew it was a lie, but I think TLC told him to get with the program or else they'd make his life miserable.

Sad but true said...

Tucker's Mom said... 181

I remember thinking that Jon was spewing Kate's lies. He definitely used to do it.
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I think Jon knew, even then, that this was the path of least resistance. I can't imagine living like that day in and day out. She was/is simply a bully: "Do it my way or we won't have happy lives."

NJGal51 said...

I remember thinking that Jon was spewing Kate's lies. He definitely used to do it.
He also said the kids love filming and it didn't harm them at all.
He knew it was a lie, but I think TLC told him to get with the program or else they'd make his life miserable.
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And the minute he didn't toe the company line the did make his life miserable.

GollyGee said...

I think Jon knew, even then, that this was the path of least resistance. I can't imagine living like that day in and day out. She was/is simply a bully: "Do it my way or we won't have happy lives.


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Remember years ago when they had to go somewhere and they were in the garage in E-town arguing about one of the tup girls wanting to wear a different pair of shoes than the other two tup girls?

She was so ticked off that Jon said it was ok for her to wear them, but she wasn't having it. She forced a stand off with Jon with her standing there and looked at him so hateful and said, Stand with me or against me. Jon said, let's step inside.

So they went in the house to thrash it out.

I am trying to remember if it as th same episode where she was in the car out in the driveway and she had a pair of shoes and Jon was walking to the car to get them and she just tossed them down, so hateful and took off.

Jon picked them up and was walking back to the house and he said, Kate has left the building.

foxy said...

Layla 176...on one of the episodes not to long ago, I don't remember which one, but Kate said the boys have to clean all the bathrooms. The boys had to do all the dirty work, chickens, bathrooms, anything she could think of that the girls wouldn't do.

Tucker's Mom said...

I think Jon knew, even then, that this was the path of least resistance. I can't imagine living like that day in and day out. She was/is simply a bully: "Do it my way or we won't have happy lives."
^^^^
It just seemed like Jon was making stupid sh*t up about his in-laws, and it made no sense, really. What exactly did he mean by it?
I have no idea.
The Krieders cared enough to collect a ton of stuff for Jon's family, and they were there when the twins needed them, as Jon was by Kate's side in the hospital.
So, suddenly they're bad people?
Even if they didn't want to see the grands a whole lot (which who knows if that's even true), any relationship is a good thing.
These kids are now growing up without their Grandma and Grandpa.
Kate makes her parents out to be these evil people!

Layla said...

It's possible that the Kreiders weren't up to all the "help" Kate demanded. She wanted other people to take care of her kids. I imagine that the Kreiders just wanted to visit their grandchildren--like normal grandparents--and not take care of them constantly so poor, overworked Kate could have "me" time. She had Jodi taking all 8 kids one day a week, plus extra days of free babysitting. Would it surprise anyone if she also expected her parents to take them a day or two each week and be on-call for babysitting too? Not me.

Anonymous said...

There is a new book coming out September 12 about Bette Davis. It has been written by Kathryn Sermak who was her personal assistant and had a seven year friendship. I read about in on the Daily Mail website. The author has some interesting things to relate about the relationship between Bette and her daughter. It sounds like it will be a good read.

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FlimsyFlamsy said...

Are any of our readers in the path of Irma? I hope you will check in with us.

Jane said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 189
Are any of our readers in the path of Irma? I hope you will check in with us.

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I'm not in Florida right now but my condo is. At least the condo that I'll have for maybe the next 24 hours! Irma is quite a wicked lady!

Tucker's Mom said...

My in-laws are in SW Florida-right smack in the center of the path as of right now.
We tried to get them out on a flight, but it was cancelled.
They're checking into a shelter tomorrow morning to ride it out.
I pray they're safe and they have a house to go home to.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jane (#190), I am glad you are out of harm's way, but I'm sure you're terrified about your place. What a frightening situation. And Tucker's Mom (#191), so sorry about your inlaws. I hope you'll both keep us posted.

Layla said...

Tucker's Mom,

My thoughts and prayers are with your in-laws. Hopefully their location isn't hit too hard and their home remains standing. Last year my DH was offered a transfer (and promotion) to move to Tampa. I didn't want to move, and he agreed--our family is here, so we stayed. I had the fun of being able to say, "Who was right about that move? That's right...Me!" He grudgingly agreed. He hates it when I'm right.

I read a story about a Delta airlines flight that somehow maneuvered through the oncoming hurricane and made it out FL (headed to NYC), basically outrunning the core of the storm. All I can say is...wow. That must be one skilled pilot.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

And back to our regularly-scheduled reality TV snark...another Duggar wedding (Joe, whom I couldn't pick out of a lineup), and another hefty paycheck from People magazine. I bet it burns TFW up to see the Duggars' steady stream of People income with every engagement, wedding and baby, when all she's got to offer is puppies and a toxic personality.

Susan1956 said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 194
And back to our regularly-scheduled reality TV snark...another Duggar wedding (Joe, whom I couldn't pick out of a lineup), and another hefty paycheck from People magazine. I bet it burns TFW up to see the Duggars' steady stream of People income with every engagement, wedding and baby, when all she's got to offer is puppies and a toxic personality.
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So it's been a week since the go-fund-me was set up for Jon and I haven't seen any mention of Khate's 'side' of the story anywhere, not even in People. Just the 2 IG posts with kids and the one dog. Is she finally scared enough to shut up, actually following a gag order (if there is one) or isn't any publication asking for her comments? So strange.

Susan1956 said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 194
And back to our regularly-scheduled reality TV snark...another Duggar wedding
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I didn't realize they were getting married so soon (the People article about the engagement mentioned a fall wedding so it seems they moved it up a little to deflect from the controversy surrounding Joy-Anna's pregnancy. Someone upthread mentioned Joy-Anna appearing to be 5-6 months pregnant, wondering how TLC would hide that. I think they will do a lot of smoke & mirrors like they did with Collin's appearance(s) during the last few episodes of Kate + 8. The show resumes this Monday so that episode will probably heavily feature Joy-Anna's wedding & honeymoon with Austin and the ever present camera crew. The People article states an early look at the September 8th wedding will be available on TLC Go on September 18th, followed by a one hour special on TLC next month. Then they still have to have an episode on the birth of Jill's new baby. I think that Joy-Anna's time in the spotlight will be limited for a while--even though she was a bridesmaid in the wedding, they will probably shoot her from the waist up, maybe a dress with an empire waist?

Former Lurker said...

NJGal51 said... 167

Saw this posted on FB today:

Narcissists don't co-parent they counter-parent. They don't care about the collateral emotional damage done to the children, as long as it hurts you.

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In all these years of reading about TFW, narcissism, and the many battles with Jon, I think that is the best summary of her and this sad situation she has created for the kids and Jon.

Sad but true said...

Susan1956 said... 196

My god, they are really flogging this Duggar crap to death, aren't they? How many more cheap 1,000-person weddings can be of interest to the masses? How many more TLC-funded extravagant honeymoon trips, proverbs, pregnancies, kids, homilies, and tater-tot pies are needed to quench our apparent national thirst for Duggar-dom?

I read over on the Pickles FB page that JimBlob now owns SIX aircraft. To what end? And is it ALL tax-exempt? Is TLC really teaching America, via the Duggars, how to DODGE America, in more ways than one could imagine? No taxes, no armed services, no frontal hugs before marriage, no real food, but SIX airplanes? Can they just drop the whole "buy-used-and-save-the-difference" crap already and confess this entire family is dedicated to the perfection of tax-exempt status? And if that don't work, hey, we've got more than enough kids and un-/under-employed households to qualify for food stamps.

I will never view this family as more Christian than rank opportunist. Would that the IRS felt the same.

Poor K8ie, she started on this road, but opted to go Hollywood far too soon. Live and learn. . . .

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You would be patting yourself on the back for buying up limited run tickets and trying to rip somebody off like that. But guess what, the government didn't need to step in because karma kicked that person's ass when the run was extended, deflating the value of those tickets in the blink of an eye.


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Lol. I would never "buy up limited run tickets and try to rip somebody off." Are you kidding me? Here's a thought, how about people be the adults that they are and don't contribute to scalpers. But if people want to spend their hard earned money on a 25,000 ticket that's their business. I'm not going to sit here and resent it. That's so immature and petty.

I would not pay more than $100 bucks to see Hamilton nor should anybody else. Not a penny more. It's a bunch of actors in costume singing about the olden days. Get real.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


It's possible that the Kreiders weren't up to all the "help" Kate demanded. She wanted other people to take care of her kids. I imagine that the Kreiders just wanted to visit their grandchildren--like normal grandparents--and not take care of them constantly so poor, overworked Kate could have "me" time. She had Jodi taking all 8 kids one day a week, plus extra days of free babysitting. Would it surprise anyone if she also expected her parents to take them a day or two each week and be on-call for babysitting too? Not me.

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Wouldn't surprise me at all. I think what's really telling is that Jon admits that they DID want to drop by, but apparently that's not good enough for Jon and Kate.

Lots of grandparents are "drop by" grandparents. Maybe they are elderly, or ailing, or have a busy life of post-employment fun and obligations. Lots of grandparents travel, volunteer, have a big circle of friends. Lots of grandparents have a life outside their beloved grandchildren. And lots of grandparents I've heard say are over raising kids and would just like to be the fun grandparent who brings presents and then leaves the actual parenting to the parents.

A grandparent is not OBLIGATED to help you raise your kid or otherwise get their hands dirty. Some do want to help in that way, but it's in no way a requirement or should be expected, and frankly, I think it's RUDE of a parent to expect something more than that unless it's offered. They are the GRAND-parents, you're the parent. Grow up.

And yes I think Jon at the time was toeing the party line as most good husbands would. He was good to her, to both their detriment.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

are just “not involved” because they wanted to be “drop-in grandparents”


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And think about this, it seems to me he is implying the contact was both not enough and that the content of the contact wasn't good enough. So, he and Kate punish this by not allowing any contact at all? That doesn't make sense. You're not seeing the kids enough so now you're not going to see them at all. That is really, really petty.

GollyGee said...

She wanted people taking care of them all day, 7 days a week!

Jody, all day, Monday.

Her parents, all day, Tuesday.

Carla, all day, Wednesday.

Beth, all day, Thursday.

Jon, all day, Friday.

Jamie, all day, Saturday.

Ashley, all day, Sunday.

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