If you're wondering why there were about 30 new episodes of this God forsaken mess that aired long after "The Finale" aired, well, you should be. As you may recall from long, long ago, this show really did have a pretty big cancellation announcement six years ago, with tears and regrets and fans in a tizzy. It was 2011, just a hair before television really started to change, for the better (for the most part). There are a lot more platforms to get a series on television these days, and television has been expanding, giving viewers a lot more choices and niche genres. Shows regular networks never would have taken a chance on have thrived on services like Netflix, Amazon Prime or Hulu. This expansion has left a lot more room for shows to get their reunion episodes, or for many, a total revival.
Back in the day, if your series were cancelled, you really were cancelled. You would never be heard from again other than the $9.99 DVD bin at the grocery store. A few very good series got a reunion episode or two, or even a movie, but that was rare.
Some of these revived shows they've put together recently are simply charming and a wonderful throwback, like Full House or Gilmore Girls. Others should never have been messed with, like Boy Meets World and Will and Grace. Kate got her revival too, starting back up again in 2014 to the present, and it never should have happened. The kids were older and more outspoken and disgruntled, and as we now know during much of this time, Collin was having such serious issues he is no longer living in the family home. The family should never have gone back on T.V. post-2011, but here we are.
An unintended consequence of this sea change is that revived shows like Kate Plus 8 seem to be surviving on much lower ratings than they ever could before, and new episodes are being ordered, albeit on obviously lower budgets, when they never would have been before. Voting with your remote doesn't seem to make much of a difference these days, with such low audiences. So in sum, the changing T.V. landscape is great for most shows, but breathes life into a few that shouldn't be here, with little to no way for viewers to get them off their screens.
Another interesting thing that seems to have happened is networks don't seem to be making grand cancellation announcements anymore, not usually anyway. Probably because they want to leave a door open. I'm not even really sure if Kate Plus 8 got the axe again this year; TLC was never really clear. For those whose incomes depend on their series, not just the talent but the local production companies, such treatment is rather cold, but as we learned now more than ever recently, Hollywood is more self-interested and devoid of any morals or accountability than we ever imagined.
Predictably, this show is going to be full of old clips we've seen before, some many times before. But they also do an unusual format for this show where some of the major players sit down for a one-on-one interview, like Steve, Ashley, and Jamie, who remarks that she always tells Kate she's not Angelina Jolie. Baw, she's pretty good sometimes.
Interestedly enough, old clips of Jon are shown, which invokes legal implications, like possibly having to pay him again. I wonder how that all shook out and whether he noticed and demanded his check.
This aired just after the infamous RV episodes, so we're going to rehash all the drama of those. You can review my recaps here and here if you're interested in the finer details, but the short story is Kate actually thinks she did everything on the RV trip and was pleasant at it too, and that was really f-ing obnoxious to those who actually were doing it all and exhausted, like Ashley and Jamie.
Kate is actually blaming her nasty troll-like behavior on that trip on stress and the hot weather. Classic not taking responsibility for her role as chief instigator.
I like how the Kiwis say tense. Sounds like "teens."
This segment goes on and on.
Jamie I think at her heart is a good person with a good head on her shoulders, despite her misguided friendship with Kate. Jamie says fine blame it on stress, but the reality is that is no excuse to treat the people who love you and support you the most poorly. Well, right! Also, I really like how the producers obviously interviewed Kate first, then went tattle-taling to everyone else about what she said to see what they would say. Heh!
This reminds me of a scene in the upcoming season of The Crown, which has had a great opportunity to show itself off thanks to the changing landscape of TV I was just talking about. It is one of the best series I've ever seen, a slow but delicious plod month by month through Queen Elizabeth II's life starting at age 20. (It will go on many seasons as long as it continues to do well. We're only up to her early 30's now.) In it Queen Elizabeth appears to be irritated by everything going to shit around her--the prime minister resigning, her sister on all the front pages of the tabloids, her mother always on her case. All of this makes her job harder. And Phillip, her husband, stares her down and asks her if it occurs to her that she has people in her life who are there for her no matter what.
"If only," Elizabeth replies.
I think Elizabeth has grown tremendously as she's aged, and learned a lot in particular since Diana's death. She wouldn't say something like that now, but I think that incapsulates her when she was younger. And much like Kate, who is also an "if only" person despite being surrounded by those who love her unequivocally, E-2 struggled to grasp and respond to normal love and friendships. It was all duty, country, and preservation of the crown.
The only thing I can say to the lovely Ashley is just get out. This is a toxic relationship no matter how much you love the children and it's never going to change.
Kate is truly, truly a cold woman. When viewing Ashley's outburst on the RV trip afterward, she calls Ashley "over-dramatic." She's outrageous. Can't she just keep that comment to herself and just try to mend things with a nanny that the children love? So unbelievably selfish. She fits right into the industry she so wants to be a part of.
Ha, Ashley says she regrets not saying more on that trip. Good for her.
Steve admits that he too had thought about leaving but he committed to this trip. So noble. Jamie kind of considered it but didn't want to hurt any of the kids including her own so she stuck it out. That's just maturity is all.
Kate says funny enough she and Ashley have never even had a small disagreement before. That's because, doofus, someone like Ashley puts the kids first and hasn't said how she really felt all this time. That was good for the kids, but not for Ashley. It's clear her outburst had been building for years.
It's hard to tell whether they're really going to patch things up or not but Ashley said they did have small talk conversations a few times since and Kate has said she is welcome anytime. Well Kate isn't about to let a lackey go just like that no matter how big the fight was.
Benevolent Kate says she still loves Ashley, Ashley can do no wrong, and it's up to Ashley whether she would like to keep on loving them in return or not. It's unbelievable how insane Kate is. Why can't she understand this has nothing to do with Ashley's love for the children, and everything to do with a young woman finally finding her voice and developing her own personal boundaries? Ashley's maybe 23, 24 here, I don't know. Point being she's around the age where a young person is really delving deep into their feelings and getting to know who they are and what they really want out of relationships even platonic ones. This is the age where you might decide to leave an old friend from high school behind because they've become an alcoholic, finally estrange a parent who is cruel and abusive, and around the time when many people say they had their first "real" relationship with a boyfriend or girlfriend. But love is not something you can just shut off like a faucet. Even if Ashley decides she can no longer be around the family, I can promise you she will always love the children. When love becomes too much to bear because either the person you love or someone around who you love is making you miserable, everyone must eventually make a tough choice.
That wonderful University of Phoenix ad plays again. "What if I swore I'd succeed so you could wake up one day with the choice to be anything you wanted?" Bawling! Bet that hard-working grandma never spent one second wallowing about some sexist pig in the office and posting trite "#Metoo"'s on instagram, and instead just told him to buzz off and then got on with it.
At the time they interviewed the kids for this last episode, no one knew this show was ever coming back. An off camera producer asks some of the sextuplets how they feel about the show ending. The kids look confused by this question. They blurt out canned answers like it's sad, but tellingly, are unable to articulate what about this that is so sad. In fact Alexis says she's sad because she's sad. Wow, the kid doesn't understand this, like, at all! I think they are either so used to this show they don't even realize what it means for it to be over, or if they do this means really nothing to them. But I don't believe they truly feel sad about this, so this idea the show must carry on because the kids need it, as Kate has suggested, is nonsense.
Kate says they owed viewers a last episode that tied everything up. I don't know what that means, tying up your real life as if there's loose plot lines that still need to be resolved like it's the The Walking Dead. But they don't owe the creepy fans anything, and that's step one of her problem.
Kate actually doesn't look sad to me either, even though she says she is. I can literally see the creaky ole botoxed wheels turning, I think she has something in mind that will bring in lots of money after this is over. Most likely a spinoff all about her, maybe a stint as a host on a talk show, some kind of wildly successful product line. She did try things like this after the show was cancelled and absolutely nothing panned out, but point being I think she thought at the time this was the start of her next even better career where she can finally ditch these kids. I swear to God, there is a glimmer of excitement in her eyes she can finally move on to other things.
Weird spa music is playing in the background. I want someone to crack my shoulders!
They show a little bit of Jon and Kate recording the opening segment from the original show, which I actually find rather interesting, because if anything it shows that they are doing what looks like dozens of takes. Jen is there, being a very patient and supportive producer. When they let us in to little behind the scenes moments like this, it becomes all the clearer how heavily produced this show was no matter how much Kate has tried to deny it. It is no wonder a boy with special needs could not thrive to his fullest potential under such conditions.
Kate gives yet another explanation for why they're on T.V. and I swear I've never heard this one before. They owe it to the little old grandmas who sent them 10 bucks here and there. Kate needs to let them know they're doing okay. Huh? Who old ladies what? And why can't you pick up the phone and call your supporters and let them know how you're doing, or get everyone's addresses and send a stupid Christmas letter update every year with a photo? How do you even know these old ladies have cable? I wonder if she's updated the little old grandmas on Collin. He's not doing well, ladies.
Oh, burn, Jamie says the person she met at Reading hospital (I didn't know they met at Reading hospital, was that where the multiples support group was?) was kinder and gentler. Now Kate is all about TV, how skinny she is and what she's wearing. I really can't believe Jamie is saying this! This is the juicy shit you say on secret video tapes to your biographer not to be played for forty years. What's next, Jamie hates Martin Luther King, too? Jamie must have been really upset about the RV trip to just blurt all this out like this. Wow.
Kate says about a million times there's no going back from this. Oh, that's just silly. Americans are the most fickle audiences ever and with rare exception, quickly forget about shows they watched and has-been celebs they were fans of. Try it. Name a T.V. show that was cancelled two years ago and two of its stars. Bet you have to think long and hard, because viewers just forget that stuff and move on to the next show.
A bunch of creepy footage of paparazzi.
I don't remember this story at all, Kate says they did a T.V. spot and a man was hanging around them and putting the kids in his lap. What?! Who was this creep, how did this happen, and why didn't they call security or even the police? Surely even small TV stations have at least one security guard. And shouldn't this have been a huge, huge red flag to you this industry is very dangerous for children? So many questions, no logical answers. After that Kate knew she needed a booby-guard.
Lol, I love when these talking heads unintentionally insult Kate. Steve says he quickly realized after booby-guarding for Kate there was some notoriety here. Heh.
Jon was always ready to quit the show, says Kate. I think that is a pretty big revelation, because a lot of fans have implied that he up and quit just to spite Kate during the divorce. In fact, Kate has unintentionally admitted, quitting had been brewing for him and was no sudden matter or bore any connection to trying to slam her in the divorce.
What's an episode without Kate getting a chance to slam her parents again? Kate rarely if ever left the state growing up and she wanted something different for her kids. Wouldn't you remember whether you left the state or not growing up? And boo-freaking hoo you never went anywhere. It's not like Pennsylvania is 100 square miles. It's a huge beautiful state, with endless things to see and do. You could spend a decade there and never even get close to seeing everything. Also, parents do not owe children trips out of the state. The bigger question is did her parents do the best they could with what they had? Did they do their best to teach their children good values? Did they enrich their minds with good schooling, plenty of books and music? Did they teach and show them love?
Her dad is or was a pastor. No matter what your beliefs are, religious leaders are usually a noble profession and most are very good men and women who often do a whole lot of schooling to not get paid very much. I've never heard one ounce of gratitude for the role he has played in her community. If her dad is like most pastors, he's probably sat up with a family for 18 hours while their toddler gets heart surgery, held the hand of a grandmother dying of cancer and read her scripture, coordinated help for a family who lost everything in a house fire. You're a first responder to the spiritual side of people, and on call all day and night. Nothing, nothing at all ever from Kate about admiration for this?
I think her parents just popped a lemon with this one, because from the bits and pieces we've seen of some of her other siblings, they seem like decent people. I highly doubt her parents were sitting on a pile of money refusing to spend it on the trip Kate wanted to Florida out of spite. Kate is lucky she had a roof over her head, a full belly, great schools and sports, the best medical care around, good friends and a nice safe small town to grow up in. Some families would kill for such a cookie-cutter place to grow up. What an ungrateful waste of space.
Kate said she thought of the kids twenty years from now and what they would think of her decisions, and that influences her choices. How dare she speak for what her kids will think about their lives 20 years from now and how dare she assume her 30-year-old children will be just fine with her decisions just because she thought of what they would think in advance. And how convenient for her that she insists the decisions she makes just happen to be the ones a 30-year-old Gosselin kid would fully support, given that there is no 30-year-old kid yet to consult. What a nut job! It's really not her place to speculate how the children will feel and it's insulting. And if you're paying attention, the narrative has changed again. The show was supposed to be for the little old ladies. Now I think she's realized that answer is stupid, and so she's moved the goal posts to say that if she doesn't do the show her kids will have a piddly growing up existence like she did and because she resents it she's sure they would too. What an assumer and an ass-hat. She needs to read Christopher Robin Milne's books about being haplessly thrust into fame when he was in grade school. All he wanted, all he wanted in the whole world, is to just be a normal boy no kid knows, and get his parents back, his toys back, and his damn woods back. One could just as easily assume a Gosselin kid might grow up and all they want in the world was to have a normal childhood to look back on. Why not assume that just as easily?
Kate says the show has been a great opportunity to "travel" the kids. Travel them? How about, it was a great opportunity for the kids to travel? Awkward phrasing, she makes it sound like the kids are objects, which she's done on several occasions, so this is not a fluke.
Point being, no one knows how these kids will eventually feel about their childhoods, not us, not even their mother. So then why risk it? Why not just give them a normal childhood so you'll never have to worry that they might not eventually like their extremely abnormal one? Selfishness and greed on her part is the answer to this rhetorical question. The only sad thing is she can't admit she exploited the kids for her not for them, and that the grown children may have the biggest problem with of all.
Kate pats herself on the back for about five minutes about how she did it all by her lonesome when the kids were little, again leaving out Jon and the helpers.
People told her they would have liked to just stand at their window and look in. What creepy person said this and was her name Gladys?
One of the few things Kate says that is correct is that over time viewers fell in love with the kids. I think that's true for most fans and non-fans alike. We had some buy in with these kids, we like them even though they have faults, some more than others, and the faults they do have we understand are directly related to an exploited childhood and terrible parenting and therefore forgivable. So, she understands viewers genuinely have a stake here. But doesn't seem to understand much else. The fact that Collin is just gone, poof, for so long, is truly upsetting to fans and non-fans alike, and that's directly related to the years viewers spent watching him grow up and giving a tiny piece of the T.V. portion of our hearts to him. The little bones she throws out there about him are toying, manipulative behavior, like a cat with a mouse, and that's really screwed up.
Kate says she and Jon had vastly different views on how they see the world, which is why the show was interesting. That's true. Here's a little hint, if you and your boyfriend or fiance can't agree on anything, your marriage is very, very unlikely to work. Frankly that goes for Jon too. He should have called this off or spent longer dating her before putting a ring on it. He was only 22, he could have waited another decade to make sure this was right. Now he's paying. Makes for good T.V., but a bad marriage.
Steve says he thinks couples would watch this show and say, thank God I'm not as useless as that. Implying Jon?? Useless? Oh my God! What a jerkwad! Was he paying attention at all when he watched these episodes? Jon did it all including working and caring for the kids and Kate accepted coffee delivered to her bedside when she woke up, then put the kids behind bars all day and gave orders and freaked out about $10 off coupons. No, couples were saying thank God we respect and appreciate each other like she doesn't and are good to our children.
Kate admits after a producer comes up with the idea that maybe the kids like watching the old episodes to see her and Jon together. Well, that's a rather sad though probably true thought and never anything Kate would have come to on her own because she has no feelings.
Apparently Kate's kids are like no other kids in the world and can remember all these things they did as if they were 10, not toddlers, says Kate. Well, we've since learned that's a load of malarky. In the recent trivia episode the kids really struggled to remember much about the show at all. So doing this for the trips was mostly pointless for them. What else ya got?
Lol, Kate is blaming her totally unacceptable behavior on editing. She also blames her nastiness on, get a load of this, the kids asking too many questions of her. She actually says this. She's too much. Poor Kate, no other mother has ever had to deal with why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why. Well maybe they have, but I bet you not times six! So there!
Mady is parroting Kate's reasons for what she liked the most about the show. We never had time to make our own home videos, Mady echoes. Well, we know that is malarky too, since at Mady's 16th birthday, Kate herself admitted that she was filming every day once the twins were born, and even put together a very long compilation for their birthday. I'm sure there was less time for that once 6 babies were here, but we still saw home videos of them she or Jon took, and surely just whipping out a little camcorder and taping a few moments is far less time consuming than organizing the taping over several days with an entire camera crew. Come on!
She talks about the kids' favorite things and Collin's is the chickens. Aw. She got rid of that little boy and got rid of his favorite things next. Wth, lady!
Alexis has absolutely the most darling Anna Wintour haircut. I never remember seeing that before or since but it's nice to see her have some individually for once.
She's defending cupcake gate again. Man, that incident really bothers her the most of all huh? She says just the other day some of the kids didn't get their cupcakes. That is a stubborn and defensive thing to say. She is twelve.
Kate is still boo-hooing about a divorce that even in this episode was a long time ago. She works up some tearless tears. She says she couldn't make Jon want to be there. Um, it's not that Jon doesn't want to be "there." Jon just doesn't want to be with you, doofus, and since you're always "there" that becomes a problem now doesn't it. And wait a second, didn't she file for divorce? Lol!
Kate is in agreeance over the divorce. Gaa, that word. Well that's good to know, because she was the one who filed.
Kate is defending herself about the divorce again saying they had to do it in public and she did so tastefully and they would have gotten divorced show or not blah blah. There was absolutely nothing tasteful about her embarrassing purseful of bills pity tour and all the below-the-belt comments she made about Jon in various venues. It was pathetic and self-serving. It was basically like Grey Gardens tasteful.
That tough as nails grandmother commercial is back again! I really remain perpetually in awe of the Greatest Generation and what they endured in the name of freedom, especially those who were kids and endured months of bombings straight or in the alternative were sent up north to live with total strangers. I fear we are no longer honoring their sacrifices and have become far too tolerant of the crap they sought to end once and for all, and my God are our feelings ever hurt just like that. I really recommend the Imperial War Museum if you are ever in London. It's comprehensive, incredibly moving, and free. For kids who don't know much about civilian life during WW2, I hope this commercial causes them to ask their parents, what was that bombing about when she was a kid?
Ashley saw the divorce coming a mile away but was in denial, like it was her own parents. Ashley, bless you, but a blind and deaf centipede could see this divorce coming.
I hate when people do what Kate does when telling a story and ask themselves questions and then answer them themselves immediately after. Was I proud of that no? Did I love that? No. Would I like a grilled cheese for lunch? You bet.
Annoying.
The editors are being mean here. When Kate remarks she and Jon have different parenting ideas, they show Jon texting on his phone while Hannah is trying to ask him something. Maybe it was an important text, or something to do with the kids or work. Or even if it wasn't you don't have to leap to attention every time your kid demands something of you, as long as there's a balance. It's fine kids know there are other things going on for their parents besides their spoiled children. How about tell the kid, I just need 30 more seconds to finish up this text I was writing before you started talking to me and then we will talk, okay baby? It's good for them to learn to wait.
Like no parent has ever been on their phone before while their kid is talking to them, including Kate herself. Stop it. In later years, the editors were far more fair to Jon and could be mean to Kate. It's clear they've come around.
There's a whole lot of rambling and fluff here about the divorce, like it just happened. Keep in mind, even in this episode it was three years ago. Yeesh.
The vow renewal episode was not a hoax, Kate insists. A hoax? That's a strong word. I think we just said they knew then they were separating even while taking that free trip, that's all. What's next the vow renewal is going to show up on snopes.com? Eh, I'll call this rumor MOSTLY TRUE.
Kate can't bring herself to say she does not regret the marriage because of the kids she got out of it even though the statement was spoon-fed to her to say. She hates Jon more than she loves her kids.
Did Kate actually just say Jon was there for the family and did anything she asked of him to do. Wha-what! A moment of clarity. Good, glad she said that. Now go tell your lackey Steve and the idiot sheeple to stop re-writing history.
Oh lovely, the kids nickname that crew member who never showers "Stinky." That is hilarious to a kid, but should be horrifying to a parent. He probably smells like pot, too. That's crew members, folks.
Kate admits there is only one original member of the crew left. Well, that's not surprising at all. Crews come and go. Better or more interesting projects come along, or promotions, or career changes. The idea the children should be encouraged to have such real bonds with such a transient lot is very concerning.
Hm, um um I guess Kate says she will have to get a job now. Uhhh ya think? Go to work, you able bodied woman. Good Lord. Lol, the future holds T.V. and media for me, says Kate. She's so arrogant. You have to get somebody to put you on T.V. first. Oh and um thank you to the cheerleaders, says Kate. Who? Is she talking about the fans, the helpers, both? Could she be a little bit more specific when thanking people?? Why is Kate fake crying? She's not sad at all. She clearly thinks she's winning an Emmy for whatever her next project is.
Without the show Mady says she would have to sit at home and stare at the walls. I'm sure that's the lie her mother tells her. She'll resent this coaching someday. I wonder when Mady realized that not having a T.V. show does not mean a very full and enriching life is cut off from you. And with a little effort a parent can provide endless fun and enrichment that is either cheap or free. A middle class or even poor child can have a good and happy life and the idea that Kate keeps implying that the only path to happiness is to do what she did is nothing but insulting.
This is a long recap. Thanks for bearing with me. It was a full 42 minute episode unfortunately, but it was full of rather notable comments and revelations that just couldn't be glossed over. When Kate is allowed to just run her mouth, recapable stuff always seems to diarrhea out.
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She grew up poor, but I think she's been rich so long she's totally forgotten it.
Here's the thing, Oprah's smart. If Oprah doesn't know something, she will learn it and fast. Oprah has it together in all aspects of her life. Oprah can outwork, out-read, out last anyone. Oprah is wealthy beyond imagination. She is an unusually perfect person for lack of a better word. She is a savant, a prodigy. The vast majority of people don't have it together like she does in all those areas. Things don't come so easily to most people. Most people will NEVER be as good at their jobs as she is at hers and therefore will never make the kind of money she makes. So the piece where she is out of touch is that she is totally failing to account for how hard the world is for many people when it just comes day to her. Like a ranked chess player not understanding why someone else stinks at the game.
Maybe she really has willed away her period cramps because she is just able to do that--most people can't, and I really don't think she gets that.
Gail has a story of how Oprah once reached into a jacket pocket and found 400 bucks she had forgotten about in there. Gail was like, seriously?? Gail at the time was struggling and would have killed for that money to pay off a bill, but she didn't take it.
I find 20 bucks in my pocket!
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To be perfectly honest (:o) I only watched about three and a half minutes of Oprah's lecture online. That's about all I can tolerate of her. Any longer than that and I start hunting around for high proof alcohol. What I was kind of hoping for, was to see if Meryl Streep was going to get up there and apologize to her Hollywood bffs for calling Weinstein God a few years ago. But alas, it didn't happen.
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LOL! Oprah would probably make more sense after I've had 2 Side Cars (seriously, I love that cocktail!).
if Meryl Streep was going to get up there and apologize to her Hollywood bffs for calling Weinstein God a few years ago. But alas, it didn't happen.
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Streep has done nothing but deflect like a true coward. She's never owned giving a child rapist a standing ovation, or calling a serial sex criminal a "God". In fact, Streep has pointed the finger at others and seems to think that wearing black mitigates the fact that she's kept Weinstein's secret for decades.
I liked Francis McDermott who was like, meh, I'm gonna wear what I want to which is navy blue because I'm not really down with blending politics and my work. Funny thing is I bet she's smart enough to contribute something valuable to the conversation. Yet smart enough to shut up.
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"Trite" is the perfect word for the "protest". Who are these women kidding? They have a team of people putting them together all day long and most of them show up looking like sex on a stick.
Hypocrites.
I'm still seeing more horror stories coming out about those 13 kids in CA. All those people who saw something off but said nothing. Let this be a lesson to all the Kate fans who say she's entitled to raise her kids any way she wants.
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Exactly. Thank you. You don't have to be Kate Gosselin or having 8 kids-or any kids at all- to listen to your gut and say something when you see something.
So many people failed those children. I hope those parents get life in prison, and super max.
Screw that...prison justice will do.
And, I flipped on the TV one day and happened to see the last minute or two of Entertainment Tonight. There was out of touch Oprah talking about how we all have to find our best purpose in life and wake up thinking about what we are here to do, and blah blah, blah. I'm just paraphrasing, but it was along those lines. While she was busy navel gazing, she really had NO CLUE that millions of people were losing everything - their jobs, their health insurance, their homes, or living in fear that they were about to lose it all. While they were simply trying to survive, they didn't have the luxury she had to sit around and contemplate life. I admit I shouted at the TV, "Oh, STFU - for once - Oprah....Give me a freaking break....Screw you, Oprah."
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Post-modern gobbledegook dressed up as revelation and enlightenment.
I think the moment I saw how out of touch Oprah really is, is when she made a HUGE deal out of what she perceived as being treated poorly/discriminated against because she's black.
In Hermes.
In Paris.
(insert huge eyeball roll here)
So, the story goes that Oprah and Gail were in Paris and going to visit their good friend, Tina Turner. Being filthy rich and completely out of touch, they did as the filthy rich, Hollywood types do and went to buy another filthy rich celeb an outrageously expensive gift to give her upon their visit to Turner's home.
Because, that's apparently what you do when you're a filthy rich celeb.
(I recall that when Tom Cruise ended filming a movie with Spielberg, I believe, they bought each other gifts. One, a car and the other, a motorcycle. Gag me, ok?)
So, O and G walk into Hermes at closing time and were told the store was closing, so please leave. WELL!!!!
Don't they know who Oprah IS???
Aaaaaaaaand, then the cries of "racism".
By way of an apology and risking the ruination of their brand, Hermes sent their Paris representative to America to appear on Oprah's show and basically, grovel, lick her boots and take his racist drubbing like the cowards they are.
It. Was. Sickening. to watch.
Oprah didn't let up on this Hermes guy for an entire hour.
I thought, "Really lady? This is how tough your life is?".
I also didn't like it when Oprah would ramble on about how rich she is and how she can afford anything she wants, never has to wait in line, never wants for anything, never worries about flight times because she owns the damn plane and basically will never ever have to worry about money again.
OK, I get it. She's rich. I don't need to hear her brag about it.
I stopped buying her magazine when her "Oprah's List" had $300 slippers.
(end with enormous eyeball roll)
And, I flipped on the TV one day and happened to see the last minute or two of Entertainment Tonight. There was out of touch Oprah talking about how we all have to find our best purpose in life and wake up thinking about what we are here to do, and blah blah, blah
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That's Oprah's "The Secret" shit, right there. Supposedly, one can send vibrations out into the universe and good things will happen.
Because, you know, physics.
Say, what hertz does a brand new Lexus vibrate at?
Admin, really good point about Oprah being exceptional and not understanding that how she is able to navigate life is difference than most people who struggle.
Exactly. Thank you. You don't have to be Kate Gosselin or having 8 kids-or any kids at all- to listen to your gut and say something when you see something.
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This is really ticking me off. SO many people saw things they KNEW were not right. Not a single one called CPS. These kids had to save themselves, they certainly couldn't depend on a grown-ass adult to do the right thing, that's for sure.
A CPS call is ANONYMOUS. Nobody will know! If you see a kid sifting through garbage for food looking emaciated, freaking CALL. Geezus!
This is what this whole last year has been all about and people STILL aren't getting it.
To Tucker's Mom: Yes, agree. Oprah and that stupid "think it and you will get it CRAP". But if you really want to know, a brand new Lexus vibrates at 400 cycles per second. Go for it!
But Oprah seems to have forgotten something...how to save money building your own in-ground pool and not having to buy a community membership, and purchasing three cars, using the most gas-efficient one when fuel prices go up.
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To Tucker's Mom: Yes, agree. Oprah and that stupid "think it and you will get it CRAP". But if you really want to know, a brand new Lexus vibrates at 400 cycles per second. Go for it!
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I'm buzzing! I'm buzzing!
Streep has done nothing but deflect like a true coward. She's never owned giving a child rapist a standing ovation, or calling a serial sex criminal a "God". In fact, Streep has pointed the finger at others and seems to think that wearing black mitigates the fact that she's kept Weinstein's secret for decades.
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She has been a big disappointment. With her status as queen of Hollywood, she is another one who has nothing to lose by doing the right thing. She seems very intelligent, knows the ropes, astute. But perhaps that only extends to performance.
Situations like this have a way of showing who people really are. We have seen the ones who have done right in this situation, and we have seen those who have done very, very wrong. The results have been sometimes surprising.
This is really ticking me off. SO many people saw things they KNEW were not right. Not a single one called CPS. These kids had to save themselves, they certainly couldn't depend on a grown-ass adult to do the right thing, that's for sure.
God, that seriously made me tear up. Those kids were failed on so many levels.
She has been a big disappointment. With her status as queen of Hollywood, she is another one who has nothing to lose by doing the right thing. She seems very intelligent, knows the ropes, astute. But perhaps that only extends to performance.
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It behooved Streep to keep quiet because her daughters are actresses who need the opportunities she otherwise would have basically shut down if she came forward.
Even saying she had NO IDEA serves to protect her children.
ps...they're not that good at acting.
Situations like this have a way of showing who people really are. We have seen the ones who have done right in this situation, and we have seen those who have done very, very wrong. The results have been sometimes surprising.
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I find that I have new respect for a lot of women who are trying to approach this #metoo movement with circumspection, caution, responsibility, discernment and a dash of shaming for women who are abusing it.
Even saying she had NO IDEA serves to protect her children.
ps...they're not that good at acting.
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It is always so sad to watch someone with a once in a generation talent try to foster the same in a mediocre child.
I think two or possibly all three of her girls are interested in acting. After all this time, I've only ever seen a very odd and stilted performance on HBO's The Newsroom. The kind where you're like, is that the director's daughter or something? Sure enough.
Like, the girls could have had a glorious career ahead of them as stockbrokers, school principals, or pediatricians. But they had to do this.
I saw an interview once with one of them who has been so busy trying to make it in Hollywood she forget to focus too on pairing up and having a child, something she herself really wants. Now she's like, whoops, and may have missed her window.
Watched my narcissist do the same thing with their not-talented daughter. Oh lord, painful.
Does anyone see a creepy parallel between the Turpins treating their dogs like gold, and the baby, but not the older kids???
NOT saying Kate has abused her kids on this level, but the fact is, she seems to like babies and dogs more than older kids. Is the mental illness perhaps on the same spectrum, just different degrees?
I think two or possibly all three of her girls are interested in acting. After all this time, I've only ever seen a very odd and stilted performance on HBO's The Newsroom. The kind where you're like, is that the director's daughter or something? Sure enough.
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The Newsroom character-omg, worst acting ever.
I remember watching it and thinking, "wtf? This bitch has guys tripping over themselves?".
Terrible character. Terrible acting.
She's now in a cable series about a French design house. Her performance is a tad better in this.
Terrible character. Terrible acting.
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Odd face, I said it. Because of the nature of how the camera exaggerates anything not perfectly symmetrical, it does her no favors. This is why most people on TV are very symmetrical, because it's pleasing to the eye. Her eyes look lopsided, her face pinched. It's not photogenic. They look like their father.
Again, she would make a very pretty and competent high school principal any parent would be deliriously proud of. Why, just why?
Then there was the time James Frey "duped" O. The author apparently embellished some of the stories in his Million Little Pieces book so after she found out about that she brought him back on her show and performed verbal surgery on him. The guy limped out of her studio with a brand new a$$hole. Nobody lies to OPRAH!!!!
Then there was the time James Frey "duped" O. The author apparently embellished some of the stories in his Million Little Pieces book so after she found out about that she brought him back on her show and performed verbal surgery on him. The guy limped out of her studio with a brand new a$$hole. Nobody lies to OPRAH!!!!
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OH, he got butt raped for what he did.
Not that he didn't deserve it.
God, that seriously made me tear up. Those kids were failed on so many levels.
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It's not just a matter of they didn't call and the kids got abused longer because of it.
Many of these kids have permanent damage to their bodies and minds because of the malnutrition. God knows the mental damage.
As far as I'm concerned, if you saw something and didn't call (the aunts, the neighbors, the passersby), you bear responsibility for that. For permanent, never go back damage.
Oh, right, Auntie. Forgot about James Frey. You do not want to offend or cross the great "O".
Looking back at what she did to the Hermes guy and Frey, Oprah seems a wee bit sadistic.
She tarred and feathered that guy.
100 percent it's totally unacceptable to embellish a true story for sale unless you say upfront you are doing so. But, it's not rape for goodness sake. You don't need to wheel out the guillotine. The guy felt bad and was ruined, people should get their money back if they purchased the book and move on.
A "hater" has been busy today on TFW's Instagram post answering fans who had asked about the show. Then, TFW stepped in to declare the show isn't dead:
djoh9yiBy the way, @ajmschoenmaker, there will be NO more new season's of Kate Plus 8. TLC has has ENOUGH of her.
djoh9yi@tournesol_13: The show is NOT coming back.
djoh9yi@shanemo222: You are going to be disappointed, but it has been reported that there will be NO more episodes of Kate Plus 8.
djoh9yi@nataliecollins: According to many sources, there will be NO more episodes of Kate Plus 8.
djoh9yi@channing_michaels: The sad news is that it does NOT look like Kate Plus 8 is coming back to TV. It appears TLC is done with her and has moved on.
djoh9yi@ashley_michele0x: Kate Plus 8 is NOT coming back on TV, according to the latest news.
channing_michaels@djoh9yi well then they lost a awesome show! @kateplusmy8 is a great mom, 8 kids I couldn’t handle 2!
channing_michaels@djoh9yi and where do you get your info anyway
djoh9yi@ajmschoenmaker: There will NOT be a new season on TLC, according to reports, sorry to tell you.
arayah_mariah😂😂😂 yep. i had 2 shepherd mixes that would root around in it like that and then look up with a little mountain of snow at the end of their snoots! 💗💗💗 🐾🐾
djoh9yi@channinng_michaels: Is is not coming back.
kateplusmy8@ajmschoenmaker 😉Let's just say, the haters, declaring that reports state that there will not be another season, are WRONG once again!:) #Uninformed #HatersNeedAHug
shanemo222@kateplusmy8 so take that @djoh9yi
ajmschoenmaker@kateplusmy8 I am a bit surprised at the reactions of people.... if you don’t like the show, why does someone look at your Instagram? 😉 Well this makes me happy for sure, cannot wait for the new episodes! Thank you for the reply and have a good weekend! 😘 from Holland
kateplusmy8@channing_michaels I'll say it again: the haters declaring Kate Plus 8 is never coming back are wrong as usual, sigh... #TooMuchNegativity
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
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kateplusmy8@ashley_michele0x let's just say that the busy body haters are very wrong ...once again. No surprise there tho! 😘
cara_gosselin_17@kateplusmy8 Have a greatful Weekend ❤
lexi_mekhi0612@djoh9yi wrong!
....and there it is folks.
kateplusmy8@ajmschoenmaker 😉Let's just say, the haters, declaring that reports state that there will not be another season, are WRONG once again!:) #Uninformed #HatersNeedAHug
kateplusmy8@channing_michaels I'll say it again: the haters declaring Kate Plus 8 is never coming back are wrong as usual, sigh... #TooMuchNegativity
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
And there it is folks...
kateplusmy8@ajmschoenmaker 😉Let's just say, the haters, declaring that reports state that there will not be another season, are WRONG once again!:) #Uninformed #HatersNeedAHug
kateplusmy8@channing_michaels I'll say it again: the haters declaring Kate Plus 8 is never coming back are wrong as usual, sigh... #TooMuchNegativity
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
...and there it is folks
kateplusmy8@ajmschoenmaker 😉Let's just say, the haters, declaring that reports state that there will not be another season, are WRONG once again!:) #Uninformed #HatersNeedAHug
kateplusmy8@channing_michaels I'll say it again: the haters declaring Kate Plus 8 is never coming back are wrong as usual, sigh... #TooMuchNegativity
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
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NOT saying Kate has abused her kids on this level, but the fact is, she seems to like babies and dogs more than older kids. Is the mental illness perhaps on the same spectrum, just different degrees?
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Babies, dogs and girls.
kateplusmy8@channing_michaels I'll say it again: the haters declaring Kate Plus 8 is never coming back are wrong as usual, sigh... #TooMuchNegativity
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi wrong‼️
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She's 12 years old.
It's not "hate" to speculate a show may not be coming back based on how long its been and how low the ratings were the last time it aired. It's a reasonable conclusion based on what we know.
And a couple specials are not a "season" so if it is coming back, the jury is out on that.
People were ASKING her if it was coming back so we don't have to sit around and speculate. It's not our fault she refused to answer thus leaving us with nothing left but to speculate.
Well we already know that TLC said they would do some specials so THW may be banking on that. Mady and Cara graduate from HS, the tubs turn 16, the family goes on yet another all expenses paid vacation, and I wouldn’t put it past her/TLC to do a Collin homecoming if that ever happens. Three “specials” does not a season make.
I'd be shocked if TLC didn't film specials now and then, so Kate knows she can refute claims that TLC is done with her.
Kate is obviously irked because she's pretty much done.
And just because they tell her they'll do something doesn't mean they will film it. And just because they tell her they will air what they filmed doesn't mean they will until it happens. And as we know, just because they tell her something will air in May doesn't mean it won't air in November instead. She is at their whim, and it's pathetic.
Her over the top gloaty-gloaty suggests that there is a part of her that really is concerned about this. If she knew this all along why on earth did she wait until now to gloat?
Hilarious. K8 really showed who she is with that prolonged outburst And also that she's pretty darned nervous about the show. But of course, Milo will have none of it:
miloandjack2016 Hey @kateplusmy8 ...No one should ever assume to count you out! You have a history of being Strong. Determined. Persistent. And Resilient!! Add to that most importantl fact is you have a #ToTheMoonAndBack LOVE for your kids to do whats necessary to care for them...ALL 8 of them!! #MomMotivation ❤
Snort.
100 percent it's totally unacceptable to embellish a true story for sale unless you say upfront you are doing so. But, it's not rape for goodness sake. You don't need to wheel out the guillotine. The guy felt bad and was ruined, people should get their money back if they purchased the book and move on.
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She was infuriated with him for what he had done but those lies pale in comparison to rape. If that kind of humiliation sends her that far over the edge you'd think with her money and power she would have demanded that the men who raped her be brought to justice long ago. It doesn't add up. She's very much a plaster saint.
Rearranging (#22), so nice to see you!
TFW could have simply responded that the person who tweeted was misinformed, and that she's so happy and grateful there there WILL actually be some new episodes airing, which she can't wait for the fans to see. But since she's 12, she found gloating, winking and sarcasm to be the best way to address the situation. I can't imagine any other TLC "talent" comport in themselves on a public forum in that manner.
@NJGal51 If the Collin thing is never brought up again then something is wrong.I know some Kate fans will claim she's giving him privacy but the problem is,how are fans going to know he's home if Kate won't at least say he is?She's been avoiding mentioning him every time a fan asks.Even not at least answering ones who ask "Is he home"?All and all,i'd be concern if i was a Kate fan.
BTW oh Milo how i missed your platitudes and hashtags miloandjack2016 Hey @kateplusmy8 ...No one should ever assume to count you out! You have a history of being Strong. Determined. Persistent. And Resilient!! Add to that most importantl fact is you have a #ToTheMoonAndBack LOVE for your kids to do whats necessary to care for them...ALL 8 of them!! #MomMotivation ❤
"Let's just say, the haters, declaring that reports state there will not be another season"
What kind of verbal vomit is that? She's right that the report did not say there wouldn't be another season (the report said there would be limited runs in the future). But she didn't say in any of her little rant that there won't be another season--just that the report did not say that. Hmmm....I think it's her way of making people think there would be more seasons and not just specials, without lying about it. She could have said, "Yes, there WILL be more season", but that's not what she said.
Anyway, someone sure did know how to push her buttons!!! She does NOT appreciate anyone saying she won't be back on TV. That rant was hilarious!
Sometimes I think Milo gets butt hurt on Kate's social media and when she's had enough of feeling underappreciated, she stomps off and waits to see if anyone misses her, ie: Kate.
When she can't take it any longer. she suddenly reappears with some lame, veiled references to being ill.
She and Kate deserve one another.
Anyway, someone sure did know how to push her buttons!!! She does NOT appreciate anyone saying she won't be back on TV. That rant was hilarious!
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It pretty much was.
Don't you just feel like saying to her, okay FINE Kate you will be back on TV!
Yeesh.
Aw, the "hater" came back---and so did Kate! LOL, she must be on her own this weekend, instead of snuggling in her room with kids and dogs and rainbows and unicorns, she's in a rip-roaring fury over random IG comments. You go, girl, be yourself for a change, you've earned it, LOL!
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi you poor soul... you think you know more about my life than I do. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 #Wrong
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi @ashley_michele0x #Wrong 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😘
kateplusmy8@nick_moy You know that I usually do but I am enjoying entertaining the ignorance of an uninformed 'expert' on my life-- dedicating a total of ~ 3 minutes to pure stupidity... then back to important things like providing for, loving and taking care of my kids! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
miloandjack2016@djoh9yi LOL What a negative prognosticator you are!! Wanna bet your house on those delusions? Trolls have incorrectly assumed to predict @kateplusmy8 's demise so many times. I'm wishing her the best...hoping for more brief sharing of her family life because so many have grown to love the Gosselins. I have so much respect for how well Kate has piloted this ship...overcome so many adversities and yet still they are FAMILY connected not just thru their genes but by love #FamilyIsEverything. #FamilyUnity
nick_moy@kateplusmy8 I guess you are right.. you have to get a good laugh once on a while.
She was infuriated with him for what he had done but those lies pale in comparison to rape. If that kind of humiliation sends her that far over the edge you'd think with her money and power she would have demanded that the men who raped her be brought to justice long ago. It doesn't add up. She's very much a plaster saint.
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How come no one will sit Harvey Weinstein down on their show and ream him head to toe for an hour? Like seriously, the disconnect.
You're right, she's just so passionate about the smallest things. But her rapists? Meh.
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi @ashley_michele0x #Wrong 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😘
kateplusmy8@nick_moy You know that I usually do but I am enjoying entertaining the ignorance of an uninformed 'expert' on my life-- dedicating a total of ~ 3 minutes to pure stupidity... then back to important things like providing for, loving and taking care of my kids! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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And there she blows! This should be fun, DARN we're off for sushi tonight.
I think once you've reached, like, over 4 emojis, you are in nervous breakdown territory.
K8 going after the haters tonight on IG is hysterical. Is it me or does she only do this in the evening (usually on weekends)? I think someone is lonely and has definitely been hitting the boxed wine.
It's interesting that she decided to let loose against the "haters" now that she has Milo there for back up.
I have to say, I didn't miss Milo at all. I'm so over it.
😂 LOL, this particular "hater" keeps going and has really gotten under TFW's skin today:
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi You are now officially blocked. Considering I've never met you and yet you insist on spreading lies about us, the thing I detest the absolute MOST, you're gone. I hope you find happiness in YOUR life... happiness that does not include hating on a loving family whom you've never even met!
She has now officially blocked the offender while saying lies are what she detests "the absolute MOST". She knows the tabloids are going to pick up these 'exchanges' and probably figures she will be asked for an interview.
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Really, this surely deserves its own story on ROL. She's really stuck it all out there tonight.
miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 ...You are giving this troll way too much attention! LOL. Remember this... There will be haters, There will be doubters, There will be non-believers, And then there will be YOU: Proving them all wrong! #TeamKate. ❤
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi You are now officially blocked. Considering I've never met you and yet you insist on spreading lies about us, the thing I detest the absolute MOST, you're gone. I hope you find happiness in YOUR life... happiness that does not include hating on a loving family whom you've never even met!
miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 You Okay?? Doesn't stuff like this make you love your dogs all the more! #DogsDontJudge. #DogsAreLoyal. #DogsSupportUs #ShoutOutToShokaMakAndNanuq ❤❤❤
kateplusmy8@miloandjack2016 I've long since deduced that dogs are a fairer, better, more loving judge of people and I don't mind saying that outside of my extremely loved kids, closest friends and family, I love dogs more than I love most other people (most especially my 3 adored dogs)! I now know why the saying 'a dog is a mans best friend' exists! 😉#DogsRule #HatersDrool
What I can't figure is, why'd she take so long to block this one? Better yet,, why didn't she just delete the offending comments, which I've seen her do before? In the end, not too many of her "fans" coming to her aid, maybe they were shocked into silence by her obvious head of steam.
Oh and what "lies," exactly, were being spread here by the troll? Do tell us, Kate.
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi You are now officially blocked. Considering I've never met you and yet you insist on spreading lies about us, the thing I detest the absolute MOST,
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Kate, first, breathe.
Second, the other poster didn't KNOW if your show was coming back anymore than I did or anyone else. There was no announcement for TLC about an air date, and when you were asked directly about it, you teased, neither confirming nor denying it.
You finally confirmed it today, sort of.
The poster was simply trying to get a rise of of you with information they thought was probably true, as there wasn't nothing else out there, until tonight, to contradict it.
Is she really just suffering from a grave comprehension problem???
Trisha Yearwood's cooking show just started its 9th season. Valerie Bertinelli's cooking show is on its 7th. And then there's "New York bestseller" cookbook author TFW, spending her Saturday night typing sarcastic emojis to haters. She's got all her eggs (no fertility pun intended) in the TLC basket, and that's why she's so incredibly sensitive about her future -- or lack thereof -- on TV.
Blocking does nothing lol. They can just make new name. She needs to make her acct private if she’s worrying about haters lolol
The haters have really struck a nerve tonight. I think she's drunk.
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Well, dang, glad I popped a bag of popcorn tonight. Kate is en fuego!
Someone really touched a sore spot.
And jeebus, stop with the emojis!
Milo's certainly lost none of her butt-licking skills.
miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 Love seeing you say this! There may have once been a time you didn't comprehend the pure absolute loyal devotion dogs give to their "hoomans"! Having those 3 incredible #KGSDogs made you a believer! I feel the same way...exactly! #WhenPeopleDisappoint. #DogsAreOnPoint ❤
you insist on spreading lies about us, the thing I detest the absolute MOST,
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Teehee. She's really having a conniption over this. I think she doth protest too much.
Rumours and lies come with the territory. It was her choice to put her face out there, so tough titties Kate. You got what you asked for.
RonnieandMaggie (#58), I've always suspected she tweets most at night because her kids are home, and it keeps her from having to be present for them. She doesn't seem to have a ton of interaction with fans when her kids are away at school during the week.
🤢 Read it and puke, lol:
miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 You Okay?? Doesn't stuff like this make you love your dogs all the more! #DogsDontJudge. #DogsAreLoyal. #DogsSupportUs #ShoutOutToShokaMakAndNanuq ❤❤❤
kateplusmy8@miloandjack2016 I've long since deduced that dogs are a fairer, better, more loving judge of people and I don't mind saying that outside of my extremely loved kids, closest friends and family, I love dogs more than I love most other people (most especially my 3 adored dogs)! I now know why the saying 'a dog is a mans best friend' exists! 😉#DogsRule #HatersDrool
katileyy#hiccup
racheldecicco@kateplusmy8 I have watched your family since the very beginning. I'm rooting for you all. Raising 8 kids isn't easy and you are doing a great job!! There will always be haters. Cant wait for more episodes!!
miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 Love seeing you say this! There may have once been a time you didn't comprehend the pure absolute loyal devotion dogs give to their "hoomans"! Having those 3 incredible #KGSDogs made you a believer! I feel the same way...exactly! #WhenPeopleDisappoint. #DogsAreOnPoint ❤
Rumours and lies come with the territory. It was her choice to put her face out there, so tough titties Kate. You got what you asked for.
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LOL!
After ALL these years, she still doesn't know how to handle the haters. Here's an idea. It's Sat. night.
GET THE HELL OFF SOCIAL MEDIA!
Nala was an awfully good judge of Kate.
Oh, she's yammering about her "closest friends and family" again. Here's something I'd like to know...if she has all these people who are so close to her, where are they when she needs help? She makes sure to mention that they come to her parties and how much they love love love her and the kids, yet she's always afraid to try new things because there's no backup plan if she gets hurt. Surely someone in this group of people who are so close to her would step in to help cover carpools or drop off a meal, wouldn't you think? Our closest friends all pull together when someone needs help. Why don't hers? Especially if she's really so close to family members too. Where were they when she broke her toe (uhhh, I mean foot)? You'd think they'd pitch in to help. You know, if I were her, I'd be pretty ticked off that all these people will show up to her parties to eat her food and swim in her pool, but aren't there to help when she needs them.
Oh, and I'm still giggling at her online meltdown. She doesn't care when people talk about Mady's behavior, or ask about Collin, but boy, let someone say she won't be back on TV and she loses it! LIAR! I'm blocking you! You're wrong! Sheesh, some priorities there, Kate.
"I can't imagine any other TLC "talent" comport in themselves on a public forum in that manner."
Well, Derrick of the Duggars didn't handle the "I Am Jazz" situation well. TLC sure knows how to pick 'em for "The Loony Channel".
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What I can't figure is, why'd she take so long to block this one? Better yet,, why didn't she just delete the offending comments, which I've seen her do before?
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It looks like she finally deleted all the "hater" comments.
Oh, hi TFW. 👋🏻 😉
According to the British tabloid Sunday Mirror, mirror.co.uk, the House of Horrors couple planned for more children in twisted hope of earning millions with a reality TV show and, according to Lisa Turpin's brother, "bigger than U.S. reality show Kate Plus8".
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Tucker's Mom (#73), notice that Gladys referred to TFW's 3 German shepherds, but we all know she's had 4. Nala, like TFW's discarded son, just didn't know how to help her, so she was banished from the kingdom. But at least we've been told -- true or not -- by TFW that Nala is being loved by a new "forever family."
We've had no such reassurances about C's welfare.
After ALL these years, she still doesn't know how to handle the haters
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She sure doesn't. Instead of just deleting them when she reads them, first she throws a hissy fit. I'll bet she tosses her phone across the room too. Let's hope she doesn't scream at the kids and kick the dogs while she's having her temper tantrum. What a brat.
hope of earning millions with a reality TV show and, according to Lisa Turpin's brother, "bigger than U.S. reality show Kate Plus8".
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Bloody hell.
Oh, she's yammering about her "closest friends and family" again. Here's something I'd like to know...if she has all these people who are so close to her, where are they when she needs help? S
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And why isn't she going out for sushi with these close family and friends on a Saturday night?
What's more, her comment about only loving those people is alarming. What a sad, closed off way to live your life, refusing to be open to love and kindness and friendship from a wide variety of sources. Frankly, this kind of intentional isolation is what leads to cults.
kateplusmy8@djoh9yi You are now officially blocked
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the House of Horrors couple planned for more children in twisted hope of earning millions with a reality TV show and, according to Lisa Turpin's brother, "bigger than U.S. reality show Kate Plus8".
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Nutjobs, child abusers, looking to get rich quick via reality tv. That sounds par for the course.
It's too bad Eileen O'Neill has no conscience, otherwise she might feel some remorse for the monsters she helped create when she rebranded TLC way back when.
So, has anyokne asked when new episodes will be airing....since TFW is so adamant she will be back on TV?
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And why isn't she going out for sushi with these close family and friends on a Saturday night?
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And posting pictures of these people and things they do on her Instagram???
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Admin (#81), I've always gotten a clannish vibe from TFW about her family. Them against the world. You're either with them or against them. So-and-so loves them for all the right reasons. If they stayed with the Palins, they were no longer Gosselins. And awn and awn. It's the kind of behavior I've seen from households harboring secrets. Just my humble opinion, of course.
I can’t stand these voice over videos that she posts on Instagram, of Kate trying to sound overly sweet and loving to these dogs. She tries her darn hardest ( bless her heart) to sound genually affectionate toward them. To me, there always seems to be a slight undertone of impatience and aggravation in her voice. She’s not good at hiding it and she’s a horrible actor. Kate just oozes nastiness.
.I think she shows these dogs more attention, over her kids, because they obey, follow commands, criticize,and don’t talk back. She seems “ over” her kids lately. She doesn’t have full control like she once had. She doesn’t have any true friends. These dogs are probably the only things close to real friends. Sad. I forget which episode, but it was after the divorce, and she said everyone quits on her or leaves her. She knows that she can say and do whatever she wants around these dogs, and they’ll deal with her verbal abuse
. By the way, were’s Zorro?
Where is Golly Gee these days? I hope all is well with her.
Admin (#81), I've always gotten a clannish vibe from TFW about her family. Them against the world. You're either with them or against them. So-and-so loves them for all the right reasons. If they stayed with the Palins, they were no longer Gosselins. And awn and awn. It's the kind of behavior I've seen from households harboring secrets. Just my humble opinion, of course.
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Agree, it's covering for something. And it certainly could be something minor, but still something she is terribly humiliated about.
I suspect with Kate it's just a simple not the perfect family she wants to portray. I suspect she has a rough relationship with a lot of the kids and that a lot of them prefer Jon. A normal mother would have patience with the up and down emotions of children this age and focus on working on their relationship with things like therapy and time together talking. She's not normal.
So she has to keep it all very regulated and regimented lest real life escape.
To Gigi Be (#87): Exactly. I think you nailed it.
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Admin (#81), I've always gotten a clannish vibe from TFW about her family. Them against the world. You're either with them or against them.
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Oh, definitely! They are their own village and that kind of walling off "outsiders" fosters dysfunction.
It also fosters secrets.
The hyperbole coming from Kate serves as cover for a family with A LOT of problems.
"extremely loved kids"?
Who is Kate trying to convince? How do you "extremely" love a child whom you've banished?
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I love it when haters make Kate lose her sh*t! It just goes to show that she's on the edge of a knife 24/7.
She sure doesn't. Instead of just deleting them when she reads them, first she throws a hissy fit. I'll bet she tosses her phone across the room too. Let's hope she doesn't scream at the kids and kick the dogs while she's having her temper tantrum. What a brat.
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This is the same woman who found JOY in supplementing her "spanker" collection.
Tucker's Mom (#94), mentioning the "spanker" just made me realize something. TFW wrote in her journal about using that wooden spoon to "happy up" M. But there was no one in that house who needed happying up more than Mommie Dearest. She was a grown-ass adult woman with plenty of tools for mature communication and expression, yet she pouted and whined and complained on the regular.
How about her airplane tantrum on the way to a luxury vacation, all expenses paid, for which she was going to receive a hefty paycheck to boot? I remember Beth with each arm around one of the tups. SHE was the one offering comfort to the kids. Not their mother, who was too busy playing victim. Imagine if M had whipped out the wooden spoon right there on camera and attempted to happy up her mother. No wonder the kids were always clobbering each other. Children learn what they live.
I love it when haters make Kate lose her sh*t! It just goes to show that she's on the edge of a knife 24/7.
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She has the temperament that is quite common in child abusers, who often have an anger management component.
Easily angered, easy to get a rise out of them, 0 to 60 in a flash, lashes out over minor transgressions, and so on.
"extremely loved kids"?
Who is Kate trying to convince? How do you "extremely" love a child whom you've banished?
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Who IS she trying to convince?
And did anybody say she didn't love her kids? Someone was taunting her about the show coming back. What does that have to do with loving her kids??? SHE made that connection.
I think deep down she knows she doesn't feel normal love for the kids, because she can't due to her mental illness, and she's worried that people will think she wouldn't do the show if she really loved them.
TFW is anything but a loving parent. She complained all the time how exhaustedsih looking after the kids was and their hours-long nap and school-time were her favorite parts of the day. Early bedtime was also good. She said things have just got harder and more complicated as the kids got older. Her interviews and voice-overs on the show were often just complaints about being a mother doing it all on her own.
I think deep down she knows she doesn't feel normal love for the kids, because she can't due to her mental illness, and she's worried that people will think she wouldn't do the show if she really loved them.
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While there are so many adjectives to describe Kate, her immaturity and her mental illness, I'd put "insecure" near the top of the list. I almost feel sorry for her. Almost. I think it would be sad to live life as a Norma Desmond or Baby Jane Hudson. She had so much going for her, but she's burned so many bridges that she's now down to nothing but her IG, the dogs, and a few sheeple that she has left. She can't move on because she doesn't know how to move on and it seems that she really has no desire to do so.
Just reading up on Kate's rant.What i find funny is that she talked about her closes family and friends which reminded of this one fan telling this one hater about how her family will be speaking out soon.Well,its been years and nothing has happen.You'd think that if the haters got it all wrong about Kate that the actual REAL family members(not paid staff like deanna or steve)would've spoke out.
Funny how the kids don't echo her "loving family" comments. They frequently say on-camera that they hate each other and "we aren't that family". Mady has said for years that she spends all her time in her room, away from everyone else. Hannah wants to live with Jon and refused to even go home with Kate. Collin has been banished for almost 2 years now. It's obvious the kids have been forced to film against their best interests and desires. She's so full of it. Her imaginary loving family does not exist.
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I'm surprised she didn't say "literally blocked." That would cause some head-scratching, wondering if you can illiterately block someone.
I'm surprised she didn't say "literally blocked." That would cause some head-scratching, wondering if you can illiterately block someone.
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Kate can lol . Her grammar and diction are awful.
While there are so many adjectives to describe Kate, her immaturity and her mental illness, I'd put "insecure" near the top of the list. I almost feel sorry for her. Almost
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So true. People who are secure don't need to signal how wonderful and virtuous they are. Their lives are testimony enough.
What is the next phase of life for Kate Gosselin? I mean, TLC is going to film here and there, but the vast majority of her days will be spent doing...?
All this time and all the money she's amassed. What a shame to not have furthered her education and secured a life plan.
I bet more than wanting Kate to date or get married (cough, bullshit, cough cough), the kids want her to just get a life, interests hobbies, volunteer.
The twins are going to be 18 and it won't be long before the tups are in college.
Then what?
Who are these "close family" member of which Kate alludes to?
Who in her family does she even speak to any longer?
Her one sisters had the guts to come out a couple years ago and made it very clear that Kate cut them off. I know Kendra took a lot of grief and personal attacks, but good on her for stating it publicly for the record.
And what about all those Kevin and Jodi haters? The couple hasn't said "boo" in years and years, but they were vilified beyond belief!
I'm surprised she didn't say "literally blocked." That would cause some head-scratching, wondering if you can illiterately block someone.
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LOL! That's our "vally-girl speak" Kate!
“She can't move on because she doesn't know how to move on and it seems that she really has no desire to do so.“
Yes! And the fact that once Kate gets stuck on something, like her dogs, she either doesn’t have the ability on her own to post something different or is just too lazy too. TLC has tried to reinvent Kate so many times as the supermom, mommy blogger, coupon shopper, professional cook, fashion icon, motivational speaker, etc.
They’ve officially ran out of labels for her. Kate clearly has no real motivation on her own. All she does lately that is of importance to her is drool over her dogs and spend a lot of time in her bedroom. Not a very healthy, well rounded life.
And judging by her posts to that “hater”, it sounds like she’s on the verge of a nervous breakdown. The lyrics to an oldie song that I grew up with comes to mind “ They’re coming to take me away, aha, to the funny farm”
Kate morphed into many different iterations of herself when it was lucrative to do so.
Not getting on magazine covers any longer, or lost that Coupon Cabin job which paid her to enter runs?
Guess what?
Kate's not a life-long runner after all.
I think most people would be mortified to death to have their name mentioned while reading about the Turpin parents in the house of horrors story. I don't expect her to mention it but I can't help thinking about her reaction. Could it possibly be, 'any publicity is better than none'?
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Thanks GiGi Be! Now that stupid song in in my head!
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I don't expect her to mention it but I can't help thinking about her reaction. Could it possibly be, 'any publicity is better than none'?
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She’s probably hoping that the media will contact her for an interview and then she can tell them how “extremely loved”her kids and dogs are...Collin who?
@Tucker's Mom From what i herd,there was a poster that said she talks to the one sister Christen or Clairissa.Although i don't know how true that maybe since Kate claims she doesn't appear due to privacy,which im not asking for a reveal but its Kate word and since she's been caught in many lies before,i can't believe her.What i find bizarre is after the whole Kate's mom fiasco is that nothing came from that,she never spoke again.
I think most people would be mortified to death to have their name mentioned while reading about the Turpin parents in the house of horrors story. I don't expect her to mention it but I can't help thinking about her reaction. Could it possibly be, 'any publicity is better than none'?
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Heck, it's mortifying even just to hear this! But, nah, she's not mortified. Nor does she see any of the parallels.
Who are these "close family" member of which Kate alludes to?
Who in her family does she even speak to any longer?
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Unlucky for her, because of the nature of her fame we know exactly who is in her family tree and many of them, most, have talked. So we know darn well how many big fat X's are through most branches on that tree. So no I don't know WTF she's talking about.
By the way rumors are they're gonna send cadaver dogs to the Turpin property. Good lord, what did those kids tell the cops??
What is the next phase of life for Kate Gosselin? I mean, TLC is going to film here and there, but the vast majority of her days will be spent doing...?
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I would say it's a pretty darn good guess that when these kids get to college or off on their own apartment with friends when they turn 18 they're going to very much enjoy this newfound freedom and won't be spending all that much time concerned with her or being at that house. That's the problem with keeping such control over kids, when they have an opportunity to ditch you many WILL.
She's going to be in that big house, alone, and even if TLC wanted to film they couldn't because the kids will be off doing their own thing.
What IS her plan?
Funny how the kids don't echo her "loving family" comments. They frequently say on-camera that they hate each other and "we aren't that family". Mady has said for years that she spends all her time in her room, away from everyone else
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Classic narcissism. Their fantasy of how things are and what they tell people about what occurs at home often bears no relation to reality.
The annoying thing is many are so good at this kind of crap that a lot of people around them believe it.
I almost feel sorry for her. Almost. I think it would be sad to live life as a Norma Desmond or Baby Jane Hudson. She had so much going for her, but she's burned so many bridges that she's now down to nothing but her IG, the dogs, and a few sheeple that she has left. She can't move on because she doesn't know how to move on and it seems that she really has no desire to do so.
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I've worked with a lot of mentally ill over the past 10 years and there are two groups, ones that know they are a head case and ones that don't. Those that don't are far far easier to deal with.
I think there are a lot of negative aspects about Kate that KATE knows, is aware of. Not everything, but a lot. And of what she does know, she doesn't know or have the motivation to fix. That's where this odd defensive behavior comes from. Because she knows.
Long time no post, maybe a year.
Did anyone see today's episode of The Talk? I never watch, but this show was interesting to me because they were taking all about Megan's bleeding whatever and Hanoi Jane. GO Fonda, GO! It's been 50 years since then, and I know Megan is my age +1.
Anyway, Julie Chen said the biggest bitch she's ever seen act out not knowing she was on live satellite watched was some mom going thought a very public split and custody battle. She said I won't mention the name, but I knew it wasn't Mia Farrow. Chen said nasty X3 to everyone on set, then a sudden angel on TV.
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To Anonymous (#118): Joy Behar of The View had an interview show on CNN years ago in the evening. Khate was on "Dancing with the STAHS" at the time and was being interviewed by Joy. At the end of the show, Joy said to Khate, "Don't let your fat head get in the way". I am not kidding. Khate pretended not to hear. I was so glad that someone was finally calling her out.
Anyway, Julie Chen said the biggest bitch she's ever seen act out not knowing she was on live satellite watched was some mom going thought a very public split and custody battle. She said I won't mention the name, but I knew it wasn't Mia Farrow. Chen said nasty X3 to everyone on set, then a sudden angel on TV.
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Hi, Kristine101!
The ladies of The Talk barely tolerated Kate when she made an appearance. I only remember one, but it was Julie Chen who interviewed Kate (I think maybe also with Leah Remini) and she asked Kate, "Like, what are your plans for when the show is over" and Kate looked at Chen like, "What???? Show over??". Chen basically said, "The show's going to end. You know that, right?".
Kate did not look pleased!
It was a tense interview and iirc, Sharon Osbourne refused to be on set with Kate.
Also, iirc, that was when TLC was going full steam ahead with filming Kate Plus 8, and Kate thought she had another chance to jar lightning and film for as long as it pleased her.
Classic narcissism. Their fantasy of how things are and what they tell people about what occurs at home often bears no relation to reality.
The annoying thing is many are so good at this kind of crap that a lot of people around them believe it.
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Kate and her ilk trade on peoples' desire to see women and mothers, especially, as "good".
Like you said, Kate "knows" that she can manipulate and use her kids as a shield.
I can see the two remaining boys getting an apt together and going into some business venture; Leah said she was moving out as soon as she was old enough; Hannah obviously wants out; the twins may go to college and maybe will split up. I think Alexis might be the one to stay with Mommy and the animals.JMO.
Nice to see you back, Deck Chairs!
She's going to be in that big house, alone, and even if TLC wanted to film they couldn't because the kids will be off doing their own thing.
What IS her plan?
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I'd ditch that property as soon as possible, but that's me.
It's a gorgeous home and property (although suffering while in Kate's charge), but those kids won't be living there full time for very much longer.
The huge house, the pool, the enormous property all take so much money, time and care.
No thanks.
I'd rather downsize, moreover, not be so damn isolated.
By the way rumors are they're gonna send cadaver dogs to the Turpin property. Good lord, what did those kids tell the cops??
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They are also going to dna test the kids to see if some aren't the Turpins'.
I read the husband kidnapped his wife when she was 16. Now, from the sounds of her childhood, she probably wanted to go, but the whole relationship is sick, sick, sick.
Those poor kids.
Even more reason for my hair to stand up when I see parents dress a gaggle of kids alike.
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I can see the two remaining boys getting an apt together and going into some business venture;
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I can see the two boys banding together to get Collin back and help him reclaim his life and his relationship with Jon.
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Formerly Duped said... 122
I can see the two remaining boys getting an apt together and going into some business venture;
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I can see the two boys banding together to get Collin back and help him reclaim his life and his relationship with Jon.
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That would be great, if they can actually find him and he is willing to rejoin their trio. He may resent them for not doing something sooner.Who knows what shape he will be in, in a few years' time. I don't think the boys are as academically inclined as some of the girls (just surmising this from the show) so a partnership in some field/business is a good option. Collin is good at many things so it would be wonderful to see the three succeed.
Does Jon know where C is?
Is there any update on custody?
Who knows.
It's almost 2 years since Collin's been gone.
It boggles the mind to think that anyone would watch this show and suspend disbelief about what Kate's chosen to do by sending her son from the home, keeping it from Jon and blocking any attempt for Collin to possibly be helped by Jon.
Speaking of Jon, any idea what he's up to vis a vis custody? I kind of wonder if custody has already changed for some of the kids who wanted it, and we just don't know about it.
Well, Cara seems to be MIA, or rather, from Kate's IG. But maybe she's just exerting her own true will these days.She never seemed to enjoy filming and she showed her temper on several ocasions. Another time she rebuffed Mommy's hugs.She was always quiet in couch interviews but joined Mady in putting down their mother and siblings.
I don't follow Jon, but I wonder how Hannah is getting along and if she is allowed to see him since her rebellion.
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I think she'll hold onto that house for as long as she can, even if it drains her of every last dime she has. To her, it is a big part of what separates her from the mediocre masses. I foresee a Grey Gardens-style future for her.
USA Today has picked up the story about the Turpins wanting a show like K+8. In fact, the mother's brother is quoted as saying she was obsessed with K+8. I wonder if that's where they got the idea of letting the kids keep journals, although they should have learned a lesson from Kate's journal fiasco.
The Turpin-Gosselin connection is getting picked up everywhere. From People"
"In fact, Louise, who had her first child at age 20, had admired another large brood on screen.
“She had mentioned the Kate Plus 8 show, that it was a cool reality show,” Lambert recalled of discussing Kate Gosselin‘s TLC reality program with his half-sister. (Gosselin is a mother of sextuplets and twin daughters.)
“I think deep down that is what she wanted,” he said of Louise wanting a big family."
http://people.com/crime/louise-turpin-brother-says-she-wanted-reality-show-like-kate-gosselin/
Daily Mail:
"House of Horrors couple David and Louise Turpin wanted a 14th child so that they could land their own reality television show, it has been revealed.
'She used to say how they would be perfect for TV and would often mention they would be bigger than the reality show Kate Plus 8,' Billy Lambert, Louise Turpin's half brother, told the Sunday People.
'It is the reason they moved to California to be nearer to Hollywood,' Lambert said of Louise's desire to become a star, like Kate Gosselin and her children.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5293397/House-Horrors-parents-wanted-children-TV-show.html#ixzz551YXK64u
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5293397/House-Horrors-parents-wanted-children-TV-show.html
Hmmm...wants a large brood of kids for notoriety. Dresses them alike. Severe control of food. Corporal punishment. Isolation.
...and we don't know if it's true, but Collin may have been restrained with zip ties on his wrists and put in a windowless room and Hannah told Jon of his abuse and of her own psychological isolation and being deprived of what the others had.
The fascination with Disney rings a bell too
The fact that Jon still doesn't know where Collin is is just mystifying to me. How in heavens name can Kate keep that from him? It's not like he was ever denied access to his children. By that I mean the courts never denied him access. I cannot believe she still has this much power over this situation.
Kylie #133.... That's because TFW has unfortunately had sole legal custody all these years. It was TLC and their money and power that helped screw Jon in the divorce. TFW needed to have sole decision making powers over the kids so that she and TLC could exploit them and film the hell out of their lives without any interference from Jon. But, after all these years, there's just no reason for Jon to not have regained joint legal custody. Whether TFW likes it or not, he is their father.
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Classic narcissism. Their fantasy of how things are and what they tell people about what occurs at home often bears no relation to reality.
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That sounds like the Turpin house in CA. While they were starving and abusing their kids, they were posting happy, happy photos on Facebook showing their family on trips to Disney and Vegas. Some of their family members thought they were living a perfect life based on those photos and stories of their trips. Some even said they thought they were all living the good life and they were a bit envious.
Sounds familiar and reminds me of TFW and the sheeple. How many times over the years have we seen them dismiss any and all criticism of TFW and what goes on in that house, as well as what doesn't (like seeing and developing relationships with their father, their grandparents, cousins, etc), while they bleeped on about how wonderful it was that the kids got to go on so many trips all over the place?
This is too funny. Yesterday, shortly after Tucker's Mom posted in #108 about TFW's long forgotten phony running hobby, Milo posted this on TFW's Instagram:
miloandjack2016Hey @kateplusmy8 Just thinking about all that energy #MakAndNanuq have... If your busy schedule permits you should consider training your #SmartFurbabies to run on a leash w/you. Start w/short jogs... Would be great fun. Dogs would LOVE it...and LOVE you even more for doing it! And best of all its healthy for everyone and great #StressRelief for YOU!
The fact that Jon still doesn't know where Collin is is just mystifying to me. How in heavens name can Kate keep that from him? It's not like he was ever denied access to his children. By that I mean the courts never denied him access. I cannot believe she still has this much power over this situation.
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Has Jon said recently that he still doesn't know where Collin is? That was some time ago when he made that comment.
While they were starving and abusing their kids, they were posting happy, happy photos on Facebook showing their family on trips to Disney and Vegas.
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I haven't followed this Turpin nightmare very closely mostly because it is so disturbing. What did this couple do for a living? They must have had some income. I know starving their kids would cut down enormously on the grocery bill but where the hell do people like this always find the money to go on trips to Vegas and Disney.
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I haven't followed this Turpin nightmare very closely mostly because it is so disturbing. What did this couple do for a living? They must have had some income. I know starving their kids would cut down enormously on the grocery bill but where the hell do people like this always find the money to go on trips to Vegas and Disney.
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http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/15/us/california-13-people-held-captive-in-home/index.html
Court records: David Turpin had worked as an engineer
The Turpins moved into the Perris home in 2010, public records show.
The next year, they filed for bankruptcy in California, according to court records.
Ivan Trahan, an attorney who represented the couple at their bankruptcy hearing, told CNN "there was nothing out of ordinary" about the couple when he worked with them in 2011.
David Turpin made about $140,000 per year working as an engineer at Northrop Grumman, according to the bankruptcy documents. His wife's occupation was listed as "homemaker."
They listed about $150,000 in assets, including about $87,000 from 401k plans from Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, according to court papers. The documents listed debts of about $240,000, which included mostly credit card debt and a foreclosed farm in Rio Vista, Texas, valued at $40,000.
Trahan said neither of the Turpins seemed upset they were going through bankruptcy.
"They came with a lot of debt. We just knew there was no way they could make their payments," Trahan said.
The attorney said the couple "spoke lovingly of their children and even showed me their photos from Disneyland."
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Apparently the father was a computer engineer for many years, making a six-figure salary. I haven't heard if he was still working at the time he was arrested. They had at least one home foreclosed on, and declared bankruptcy at least once. And they wanted to have another baby and get a reality show and be just like Kate.
Such an ugly story. I'm not at all surprised that the mother was so fascinated by Kate She'd definitely be one of those women who always says, "You'd do it too" about putting kids on reality TV, and claiming that Kate has the right to raise her kids any way she chooses. The typical Kate uber-fan.
Former Lurker, Layla - Thanks for the background. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this story. I would hate to be part of this investigation. It appears to be worsening with each story coming out.
The father looks half-baked in the photos. The mother- what can one say? It's sad, but she's another strange animal among Kate's fan base. TFW has attracted so many oddballs, as we've seen over years. This one by far the worst.
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