In a very unexpected sextuplets birthday post, Jon wrote on Instagram that he and Hannah visited Collin for his belated birthday (Jon posted a few days ago on Hannah's birthday that he now has her every day and night). Collin has been missing for two years, and Kate has offered little explanation why, other than he is getting treatment.
mandapanda184 @jongosselin1 Oh good. So the reports that Kate shipped him somewhere without letting you know where, aren't true? jongosselin1 @mandapanda184 that’s true but I found him
TFW is upset that Jon's positive relationship with Hannah and Collin is making her look bad. For revenge she's now trying to paint Jon as the bad guy for not paying support, which she relieved him of. Things are not going as she planned and she's seeking revenge.
Radar online got it wrong like so many others. A spouse can't relieve you of child support. Only the court can. Geez. Get your sh&t correct before you report it. Kate reportedly filed in March. Such a revengeful woman.
She is literally the most hateful human being I think I've ever seen. Every one of her actions toward her ex in the 9 years since the divorce has been punitive, as if she thinks she has the right to punish him when he does something she perceives as against her. All because he didn't do what she wanted waaaaaay back when. I hope that a judge shuts her down right quick. And tells her never to come back.
I always thought Milo was an idiot, but now she's really proving it.
"Btw...time sensitive info sent."
The song "Secret Agent Man" is playing in my head. I imagine Milo running around in disguise sending top secret information to Kate.
And about the comment on the turtle IG, Milo is still living in the past with Alexis and her aldergators. Milo has a certain narrative about the Gosselins in her head that Kate put there, and she's going into shock.
And she was surprised he went shopping? Just because Kate wasn't showing him, he was sitting in a room alone by himself? She's still holding out hope for a special Kate plus 8 where Kate and Collin have a beautiful reunion? And her stupid inspirational quotes. Any wings Kate has is the flying monkey kind, not the angel kind.
Most Shocking Jab Yet: Kate Gosselin Demands $132K From Ex Jon In Bitter Court Battle Reality mom previously relieved her former husband from paying child support.
Kate Gosselin is demanding thousands from her ex-husband Jon in a bitter new legal battle, RadarOnline.com can exclusively report.
According to shocking court records obtained by Radar, the mother of eight filed a lawsuit against her ex-husband in March. She is demanding Jon cough up more than $132,000.
Although it remains unclear why the famed reality TV mom is demanding the money from her ex, Radar has learned Jon refuses to pay and has already lawyered up.
“He’s contesting it,” a source told Radar. “They’re fighting it out in court.”
The bitter exes have been locked in litigation for over two months. Court documents show a sheriff personally served Jon with the complaint on April 5, 2018. One day following the news, Jon responded with a petition to strike.
“It’s a lot of money,” an insider told Radar. “Both parties are contesting it. It’s not over yet.”
So far, the nasty legal battle has cost the former Jon & Kate Plus Eight stars money just for filing. Kate has already dropped over $300 for filing fees, while Jon’s response cost him nearly $200, court records show.
As Radar readers know, the bitter exes are also still in a years-long custody battle over their eight children. Kate has publicly shamed Jon in the past for failing to pay a dime of child support.
Back in 2012, Radar reported the father of eight owed over $3,500 in child support payments. Kate, however voluntarily relieved Jon of child support obligations for their eight kids after the famed dad said he could not afford it.
Amid their new legal battle, fans have speculated that the former couple’s daughter, Hannah, 14, is now living with Jon as she’s been seen in several photos alone with with him in recent weeks.
Jon also alluded that the two reunited over Memorial Day weekend in a cryptic Instagram video.
“I’d like to thank everyone for the love and support you’ve showed us this week,” Jon said to the camera. “Obviously, you know the situation. If you don’t know the situation you should just get together with a friend or anyone that understands the situation. But I want to say Happy Memorial Day, good luck to everyone and have a safe and happy weekend.”
Jon and Hannah’s alleged reunion is likely a tough reality for Kate to face. In August 2017, Hannah allegedly refused to return to her mom Kate’s house after spending time with her father.
In 2016, the notoriously critical mom accused Jon of acting inappropriately with Hannah in a shocking police report. Jon denied the claims.
Jon’s attorney declined to comment when reached by Radar.
TFW is losing control becauseHannah may or may Be with JON full time and if she’s not, she’s seeing more of him AND they’re seeing Collin. So, her solution is to sue Jon for money he doesn’t have and then, if she wins and he can’t pay, she’ll try and send him to jail for being a deadbead dad. She is a real class act. I just hope that Jon has a good lawyer. I wonder how far TFW will take this...far enough for all her dirty laundry to be aired in public?
Only a mother who hates her ex more than she loves her kids would behave in this way. H's and C's smiles with their father are probably like a punch on the stomach to her. An outright betrayal. She is a horrible mother.
capecodmama said... 4 Radar online got it wrong like so many others. A spouse can't relieve you of child support. Only the court can. Geez. Get your sh&t correct before you report it. Kate reportedly filed in March. Such a revengeful woman.
Sad to see the new radar article... hope for the health and well being of both H and C this goes Jon’s way. Also, good to see the three of them out and about this weekend! I hope like the rest of posters here this means C is gearing towards discharge from treatment! And trying to slowly acclimate towards release and to Jon!!
Well, the recent actions of Kate should make her dating resume' all the more unattractive.
She should be so embarrassed. Horrible.
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Good point. What sane man would want to get involved in her mess of a life? Although, we know it's not real. It's a phony dating show, just an excuse for her to be on TV. How TLC wants to be involved with her I don't know. Hopefully, they'll bail on her and never air the Fake Date with Khate show.
The Crazy Days and Nights site has a blind item that sounds like Kate.
This reality mother all of you know has never really been considered soft and cuddly. Apparently she has raided the trusts set up for her kids to maintain her lifestyle.
I wonder where she came up with that figure...her timing is so obvious with what’s going on. I guess this is the only way to punish him by suing ...we know she will not stand for the perceived betrayal on Hannah’s part...I wouldn’t be surprised if she starts suing her own children...boy she is pissed off..
Jon Gosselin captured in rare photo with children Collin and Hannah after fun day of shopping
Jon Gosselin enjoyed some quality time with his kids for Memorial Day.
The Jon And Kate Plus 8 persona, 41, was captured in a photo collage with 14-year-old sextuplets Hannah and Collin on Monday.
The sweet family portrait, which was posted by Hannah, was captioned: 'So good to see Collin again I had so much fun shopping with him.'
The rest of the pictures showed Hannah and Collin together, making funny faces at the camera and laughing along.
The dad-daughter duo made the most of their time with Collin, as the young man is currently enrolled in a program away from home for children with special needs according to People.
Earlier this month dad and daughter Hannah made a visit to where Collin lives to celebrate his 14th birthday.
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The rest of the article repeats the same old b.s. about M and C not talking to Jon.
Four more years and the tups will be of age. I think they graduate when they are 19. The twins will be away in another year or so. I wonder who will defect next unless she has the 4 left so brainwashed that they are too scared to even think about leaving. Hopefully it will be Alexis. I have a feeling she is being treated the way Collin always was. What a sad family.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if she starts suing her own children.” I was going to stay the same thing. If Kate were my mom and I was of legal age, I would move far far away and change my name. She’s completely off her rocker.
#15 sadly she has raided the trust accounts of her kids to help maintain her lifestyle”
Yes I totally believe this. A) She’s either too cheap to spend her own money or (B)she’s already spent a big chunk of it and is stealing from the kids to keep up appearances. Of course we know she’s “sue happy” and she needs money to file all of these frivolous lawsuits. I sincerely hope that the kids can have access to the money that they lost their childhoods over. If not, I hope those kids sue her for every dime.
I'm sure she feels very one-upped and undermined by a post like that. Number one it proves they can easily go out in the community without any problem, which often seems to be her excuse why she doesn't do anything cool with the kids.
And secondly the kids are well, well old enough to attend a Super Bowl party at a venue with tasty food, music, games and lots of other people. They are way too old to be expected to spend Super Bowl Sunday in the basement with Mommy and a few sad snacks. But for whatever her various reasons, most probably having to do with a combination of laziness and control, she won't seek out a fun Super Bowl venue like this to take the kids to and have a blast. Jon does, it comes easy to him, some of the kids are picking up on it just like we always have and have decided for themselves to go his direction, and that drives her bonkers.
Yes, that and the Valentines Day post that Hannah did on her IG. Both pics were of Jon, Colleen and Hannah out having fun together like normal people.
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The V-Day post is another good example. The kid is well old enough to have a nice adult evening out with family. Looks like a somewhat nice restaurant. And how nice of the couple to include her in their night out, on the actual day. Frankly, if you get into a relationship with kids, kids come with the package, even on V-Day. There are plenty of times without them to spend time with just each other. V-day is for love, not just lovers.
A spouse can't relieve you of child support. Only the court can. Geez. Get your sh&t correct before you report it. Kate reportedly filed in March. Such a revengeful woman.
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She might find herself in over her head with the family court. They might not look too kindly on her going along with their order to find it was in the children's best interest that no child support was owed by Jon, then turning around and asking for six figures in (arrears?) support.
Courts don't like shit like that. Which is it, you want the man to pay up or not pay up? Don't ping pong around. Judges, most, are not stupid, and know revenge when they see it.
I think the picture that may have pissed her off the most was the cream picture. Jon’s picture showed father and daughter smiling broadly for the camera while TFW could only manage a picture with the kids’ backs to her.
I know jack about the law, but I can't imagine a judge thinking highly of a mother ditching 6 minor children in the middle of their school year to film some goofy dating show.
I wonder if Jon was able to stop her (and TLC) filming the kids. It has been said for years that she relieved him of the obligation to pay child support, and in return he allowed her to film the kids. If he decided to oppose filming (possibly a reason why there were only 3 episodes last summer), then of course she wants revenge--and she wants money. She'd see it as--well, he reneged, so I want all those years of child support money he didn't have to pay. Never mind the fact that she made money off filming the kids and kept that money--now she wants the child support too.
If he did step in and oppose filming, it would explain a lot. I believe they probably contracted for an 8-episode season, and stopped at 3 episodes due to opposition from Jon. Then finished the rest of the contract out with just Kate. I could be wrong, of course. But I'm curious to see if the dating show has 5 episodes. It can't have too many because Kate and Jamie were only gone for a week or so filming.
That blind item sure does sound like Kate. She hasn't made huge amounts of money since 2011 or so. And she doesn't seem to have cut back on her lifestyle. I just hope there's enough left for them to finish their educations.
I always thought Milo was an idiot, but now she's really proving it.
"Btw...time sensitive info sent."
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She's such a dumbass. I'm sure it's nothing important or something time sensitive at all, she's just doing it to get Kate's attention to look at it.
It's become clear now Kate knows ALL ABOUT what's going on. Like I said, stop rubbing it in Milo! SHE KNOWS. And apparently she's handling it the best way Kate knows how, can we sue? Like, the idea that Milo is the first one to notice oh shit Jon is with Hannah and seeing Collin and tries to tattle to Kate about it like it was done behind her back, is pretty flipping hilarious.
Milo is probably the type that sticks her dog's nose in the poop when they go in the house. Yeah, so, they know they pooped, Milo. They were the ones who pooped.
Oh for sure she is doing this out of spite. She wants to ruin Jon and have his last penny. I can't understand how anyone could have children with someone they cared about and then turn around and literally kill them and pretend that they never existed. Kate's world evolv s around her and no one else exists, narcissist in all its venues!!
Remember when she sued Jon the first time, claiming her children were in danger from him? And then promptly high-tailed it out of town WITH HER BODYGUARD?
I wonder if Jon was able to stop her (and TLC) filming the kids. It has been said for years that she relieved him of the obligation to pay child support, and in return he allowed her to film the kids. If he decided to oppose filming (possibly a reason why there were only 3 episodes last summer), then of course she wants revenge--and she wants money.
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We've discussed this a lot when it first happened but there are no back door deals like that in child support. Child support is for the benefit of the children and therefore cannot be used as a bargaining chip like one can use a house, car, or cash in a divorce. There are a lot of "I'll give you this if you give me that" in divorce negotiations but you simply cannot use child support as one of the "this" or "that" things. You can't. There would have HAD to have been a best interest finding about the children that they don't need support, regardless what the parents think they can negotiate about it.
Now I suppose you could always do a deal like this behind closed doors but you'd have to be extremely careful and quiet about it, and it's hard to believe a famous family with a complicated family law case would be able to pull such a thing off.
But, I do think the latest suit is revenge, but revenge for Hannah defecting and even for Jon possibly transitioning Collin home. Collin didn't suddenly start happily seeing Jon both in and out of the facility out of the blue. The boy was estranged from him. This is a process that likely goes back many months and likely involves a lot of therapy and support and services, at least back as far as the original filing of her suit. This is Jon's punishment for successfully rebuilding his relationship with Hannah and Collin.
Again, after this was already worked out in the family courts, it is hard to believe family court is going to look kindly on Kate for re-raising an issue she did not contest last time.
Also Kate's lawyer painted her as such a martyr for not going after support. What say she now?
I can't understand how anyone could have children with someone they cared about and then turn around and literally kill them and pretend that they never existed. Kate's world evolv s around her and no one else exists, narcissist in all its venues!!
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She didn't have kids with him, she had kids with his sperm.
He's a tool to her just like anyone else. Not in the name-calling sense, but he is literally a hammer or axe to her. A tool used to accomplish the job then get out, you give me splinters.
He should sue her for child support now that Hannah lives with him. LOL.....I'd pay the filing fees for him just to see her lose her mind.
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I had the same thought the second I heard this story today. He should sue HER for support for Hannah given Hannah spends, according to him, every day and night with him. Next he can go after support for Collin when he transitions home. Works both ways, bitch. It would be hilarious if he sued her for the exact same amount for Hannah. Then the judge can find the two figures cancel each other out and send Kate on her merry way plus pay Jon's attorneys fees. Bah!
I know it all goes back to Jon ending filming way back when and that pissed her off, even though it wasn't for that long before she was back up and running.
But I wonder if she's ever thought this through. The divorce and conflict brought some of the highest ratings and attention to the show. If Jon had stayed happily married to her all this time, if there hadn't been any conflict or disagreement, does she honestly think she would be where she is today?
I think quite frankly, the show would have petered out after a few more years tops and that would be that. An update special, maybe, or two, but I don't think she would have gotten Celebrity Apprentice or DWTS. It was the very conflict between them that has kept this whole thing mildly interesting even after all this time. I bet she would perish the thought, but Jon ditching the show was the best thing that ever happened to her career. So let it go already.
Also I doubt she wants Collin anyway, maybe not even Hannah at this point, so what's the problem?
I agree. Behaviourial issues do not always equal special needs.
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I mean, yes and no. We pretty much use special needs as a word to include behavioral problems too. Usually when a child is acting up it is the result of something even if that special need is "I am a victim of abuse and this is my post traumatic stress behavior."
But, special needs should not be used as a way to excuse bad or abusive parenting, which is what I think you're driving at. That Kate doesn't want to take responsibility for the ways he has acted out in response to her parenting and her choices for him and to the environment she put him in. Rather she wants to blame it on something he just has. When, I think there is a very good chance none of this is related to anything organic.
And that would be really good, because behavioral issues can often be addressed and changed a lot easier than something that is usually always part of you no matter how much help you get, like an intellectual disability or mental health issue.
Speaking of organic, I feel like Kate hasn't mentioned the big O in ages. I guess that got dropped right next to running?
Must say I underestimated Hannah. I thought she and Leah were "mean girls" to Alexis and the boys. This was from the early days when they were rude to Jamie's son among other times. But she's really matured and stepped up to save her brother and to stand up for herself. Bravo Hannah.
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I wouldn't have called it myself, but kids aren't always predictable. Shy kids can be outgoing adults. Mean kids can be wonderfully kind adults. Kids who struggle in school can find brilliance in adulthood in the right careers. Nerds end up being popular (love when that happens personally).
Child development is interesting and complex and I suppose I should not be surprised a kid that was just being a kid, a bully even at times, has been through some important emotional development and come into her own.
That's right, Gladys. As soon as kids turn 13 they all start poisoning animals and burning down forests.
What a pill.
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This is when I'm convinced she doesn't have kids. The teen years are when your lifelong interests and passions often develop, and it's extremely common for an adult who is passionate about the environment, the outdoors, nature, etc., developed it as a teen, camping with scouts or family or on the x-country team or ski team or whatever. Many if not most kids are very aware of the environment and the outdoors. Yeesh.
But it was Hannah who reportedly went to Jon about concerns about how Collin was being treated. It's Hannah who is there visiting him and shopping with him and making goofy faces with him.
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You know the sad thing is she isn't getting any praise from her mother over this? Just a lawsuit.
A normal loving mother would be telling this child, I really admire how sensitive and caring you are. You are concerned about your brother and that is good, families look out for each other and are there for each other even in hard times. You have helped me recognize some areas I have fallen short on and I am grateful for your compassion and insight. You are a mature young lady and I am proud of you.
OMG, Milo is insufferable! That last post (on her own IG) just annoys me. First of all, "your son"? It's THEIR son. Jon is his father. And she's "surprised" to hear he's shopping...why? Milo knows nothing about what he's allowed to do. For all she knows, he has been allowed to go places all along.
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It never was about the kids for Milo. It was always, always about Kate vs. Jon. What was the gut reaction here? How wonderful, how heart warming, he's out in the community, he might be able to go HOME soon! He's making PROGRESS!
How come Milo can't stop for one damn minute and be happy the boy is progressing? It's not a game!
I think of Golly Gee during this time, she would have been so happy to see Collin smiling out and about.
It was the very conflict between them that has kept this whole thing mildly interesting even after all this time.
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I wonder if Kate thinks her hating on Jon is still a draw for viewers the way it was nine years ago. She's trying to breathe some life into this new so-called dating show of hers but she's got nothing left. The divorce is old news. People have moved on. Maybe she should too.
The only concern now is the collateral damage we're seeing left behind by her rotten choices. I think Jon is trying to pick up the pieces of at least some of his kids to put a real family back together, not a "reality" family.
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Also, looks like Paige recently commented on Hannah’s collage photo of the recent outing telling Hannah she “should maybe dismantle the comment feature on her instagram” - I actually do for see Jon maybe suggestioning she make it a private account ... atleast til this new court stuff blows over
@Admin I really do think Milo is only upset because it destroys her deadbeat dad who doesn't care about his kids narrative.I believe she really wanted Kate to post a picture of Collin to try and paint it as"we knew you visited Collin".Hence why she asked Kate if he was home.
Admin (#46), remember Gladys' string of hash tags recently about family love? Who the eff does she think Jon is, the kids' camp counselor? He is their father. FOREVER. I bet she still believes that he left TFW. It has never been about the kids to Gladys. Never.
I don’t think you can change your mind about legal documents signed in court— it’s sorta like agreeing to who gets what in a divorce- once both parties agree to the settlement and division of property, sign, it’s a done deal— done and never to be contested again. So...maybe the 132k she’s suing for is lost wages from the show, if Jon was successful in stopping the kids from filming? Heck, it takes $ to keep the salt water pool going and maintaining 3 cars! Her filing against Jon was a bad idea—he can counter sue for child support and access to the kid’s trust fund, parental alienation, to name a few.
Since tfw wanted her whole life documented, maybe his lawyer should put a compilation of all the jon bashing and alienation she did on all her interview circuits she did. Especially where she smugly said she knew where Colin was but not Jon or anyone else. The judge would get a very clear picture of how wicked she really is.
Wonder if suddenly Khate will see Collin for probably the first time in two years for a camera shot? Maybe she is forbidden to be around him or he'll refuse to see her.
No, it was Hannah but I think both she and Leah told on Collin...they used to say they didn't want C as a partner and TFW said Hannah and Collin never got along...shows what a few years of maturing can do and what an untenable home environment can bring out in a person. I have great respect for Hannah now, at such a young age to stand her ground again such an intimidating abusive mother
As much as I detest TFW, I would never dream of posting a rude comment about her on H's account. That girl loves her mother. Even if she lives with Jon full time now or in the future, I'm sure the child will still love her mother.
I think that's what TFW was never able to figure out. There is no need for a winner and a loser in divorce. If she'd co-parented with Jon, her life over the past few years could've been much easier. The kids could've been happier. And perhaps the drastic decision to send C away could've been avoided.
I don’t think you can change your mind about legal documents signed in court— it’s sorta like agreeing to who gets what in a divorce- once both parties agree to the settlement and division of property, sign, it’s a done deal— done and never to be contested again.
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Sometimes, you can change your mind, if you have good reason, but it's usually looked at with disfavor.
With due respect to Radar I don't completely trust their interpretation of the documents. I really wish they would post the actual documents so we can see for ourselves. I'm sure they got the number right, but I would like to know the justification for it. There might be some kind of explanation that makes somewhat sense. So if anyone from Radar happens to swing by please post the docs!
This lawsuit is all about Kate regaining control of the narrative. It was filed in March--probably out of spite because of the pictures Jon posted of Hannah with him. Funny, but that was at least 2 months ago, and ROL was oblivious. But now that it's clear that H is with Jon, and Jon and H are visiting C (and people--including Kate's fans--are praising Jon), ROL suddenly gets tipped off. Kate is trying to re-start the narrative of Jon as a deadbeat dad, and herself as the long-suffering mother who has to support the kids all on her own. I don't think it's working out the way she planned because almost all of the comments are about what a b!tch she is and how badly she treated Jon on the show. Times have changed, and many years have passed since the divorce. All we have seen is Kate still being horrible to everyone around her--including the kids--and people have caught on to the fact that she is just an awful person.
Also, looks like Paige recently commented on Hannah’s collage photo of the recent outing telling Hannah she “should maybe dismantle the comment feature on her instagram” - I actually do for see Jon maybe suggestioning she make it a private account ... atleast til this new court stuff blows over
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I feel like this isn't really Paige's business. No kid wants to go on instagram and have some stranger tell them how to handle their accounts. Jon is the parent, he can handle what of her social media should be available, if any. It's a typical sheeple with no boundaries. Say something nice on her instagram or don't say anything.
believe she really wanted Kate to post a picture of Collin to try and paint it as"we knew you visited Collin".Hence why she asked Kate if he was home.
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Yes. Very likely. Milo tries to "guide" Kate to do or say certain things. She's done this for years! As if Milo knows how to handle her public image better than Kate and her team, lol, and as if Kate would take advice from such a nut, and as if Kate is a total dumbass.
Some of those may be true actually. In any case, watching Milo try to gently steer Kate is always so funny. Even funnier is watching Kate ignore her prodding or not even get it in the first place.
Admin (#63), if and when TFW finally does post a picture with C (sold to the highest bidder, of course), it wouldn't surprise me if she pretends it was taken BEFORE the pictures Jon posted. Maybe she could stick a Christmas tree, or a pumpkin in the background. So she can be the winner. Isn't that what being a good parent is all about?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 64 Admin (#63), if and when TFW finally does post a picture with C (sold to the highest bidder, of course), it wouldn't surprise me if she pretends it was taken BEFORE the pictures Jon posted. Maybe she could stick a Christmas tree, or a pumpkin in the background. So she can be the winner. Isn't that what being a good parent is all about? _____________________________________________________
It will be a PEOPLE exclusive, with her "setting the record straight" again. And how horrible Jon is, and she's the victim in all of this. Does anyone want to take bets on how many times "I" or "Me" will appear in the story? I'd say at least 50....
If the blind item is referring to Kate, Jon could request the court to determine if an outside executor could oversee the trust fund. One of These days Kate is going to push and bully one time too many and it’s going to blow up in her face. The years of parental alienation provide pretty damning evidence for Jon, should he pursue legal actions.
Her filing against Jon was a bad idea—he can counter sue for child support and access to the kid’s trust fund, parental alienation, to name a few.
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I'm out of the loop here. Exactly why is Kate suing Jon? Child support? Money owed for what? Who is the attorney of record for Kate? Remember the dude she used in a lawsuit and he showed up at the wrong courthouse?
When she filed the lawsuit against Jon before, she posted that it was for the safety and welfare of the kids. Then when she dropped it, there was nothing explaining why it was dropped. Wasn't there a reason why their safety was no longer in jeopardy?
Kate really needs to be careful about this. There are so many things that could be disclosed in a deposition, questions she will have to answer. Bad move on her part, but she's just too dumb to see it. The money that was set aside for the kids was earmarked for their expenses, well-being, safety and whatever. Would she have to show, withdrawal by withdrawal, that the money was legitimately used for its intended purpose and not for her own bills?
Yes. Very likely. Milo tries to "guide" Kate to do or say certain things. She's done this for years!
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She (or he) is a sad, pathetic little woman (or man). Sometimes I wonder if any of the sheeple take her seriously or just consider her an annoyance and let her live in her own delusional fantasy world.
Can you imagine having a neighbor like that? I wonder if she's like that in the real world, or only on the internet where she can be ignored and not do too much damage.
I think what's really a shame is that she's too darn dumb to know that she's a pest and that Kate has never needed her for anything. Wouldn't you think those scary tweets when she picked up her rescue dog, and how Kate ignored her would have alerted Milo to the fact that Kate just doesn't care?
I tend to take the ROL story with a grain of salt. If they have "court documents" as implied in their article, why not post them?
We only have ROL's word that Kate is suing Jon. They offer no proof, nada. No other outlet has posted this story, except to quote ROL's story.
So unless someone posts the actual court documents, I tend to believe this is just another story planted by Kate or one of her minions to make Jon look bad.
xxxxxxx May 26 Replying to @MiloandJack @jgosselin10 @Kateplusmy8 It's been all over the news! I'm so over anyone giving him credit for a #Selfie
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Agreed! Posting daily selfies w/one child has little or nothing to do with whether a man is a good father or not. So much for his vow to protect his kids privacy. =============
Yet Kate posting pictures of her children or dogs have everything to do with her being a good mother and dog lover.
I tend to take the ROL story with a grain of salt. If they have "court documents" as implied in their article, why not post them?
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I have a sneaking suspicion they have either only seen a minute order or docket and not the actual paperwork or they have merely spoken to someone who has seen those items. I believe Kate is requesting that money, it’s an awfully odd story to make up and Jon appears to be dropping hints something is up, but, like I said I’d like to see the actual documents. God forbid there may very well be a reasonable explanation for the money she wants, like maybe some kind of miscalculation or something. I still tend to think it’s probably petty, but I’d like to see the actual documents to feel more comfortable saying that.
Agreed! Posting daily selfies w/one child has little or nothing to do with whether a man is a good father or not.
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Selfies are usually photos taken with your own arm. Most were not selfies. And it’s not the selfie itself anyone is saying makes him a good father. But there have been many comments that it’s nice to see Jon doing things with Hannah like coffee shops, restaurants, super bowl games and shopping. So yeah those sort of outings do suggest he is a good and appropriate father.
@KIAT Welcome back and yes i saw that twitter tread where that random fan message milo about how jon is somehow getting paid to post these pictures of Hannah and Collin.So i guess Jon can't upload pictures of his kids because the sheep think he gets paid too.Even Barb was defending Jon #My3AndMe @BarbGilmer Replying to @mamurf41 @MiloandJack and Everyone just needs to cut the crap!If they want to take selfies then that’s up to them, tired of ppl judging others!
I was thinking there was something posted long ago about Jon's child support being in a database, and went back to look. In 2012 Jon was paying 3600 a month, and there was an article that said he was behind in his payment because it showed a payment due. Jon responded that it is a recurring payment, so there is always a balance due because it has to be paid every month. It's never "paid off". So, the court was monitoring his CS payments. If Kate decided to relieve him of CS, that would not have been a legal move and those missed payments would not have gone unnoticed. They were being tracked and monitored.
The only other option for relieving him of payments is, as admin has always said, some kind of legal, binding arrangement (unlikely because it's not in the kids' best interest). A judge would have had to sign off on it. If that is the case, then Kate has no grounds to take him to court for back CS (if that is what she's after) because he was legally relieved of the obligation.
But--I'm just speculating because we don't know if it's a CS thing.
**I wonder if TLC is at all worried about their upcoming dating show starring a woman who is currently suing her ex-husband/father if her children. Doesn't look good, does it?
I'm out of the loop here. Exactly why is Kate suing Jon? Child support? Money owed for what? Who is the attorney of record for Kate? Remember the dude she used in a lawsuit and he showed up at the wrong courthouse?
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I don't think any of us are quite clear on the details because Radar is only doing their summary of what is going on instead of just posting what they have and letting us readers figure it out.
Frankly I just don't trust Radar's summary. I am itching to see what they have. Like I said, this figure could be for anything, it could be about anything, there's just no guarantee Radar has summarized this in an accurate manner and even if they have, they are awfully short on the details.
The only other option for relieving him of payments is, as admin has always said, some kind of legal, binding arrangement (unlikely because it's not in the kids' best interest). A judge would have had to sign off on it. If that is the case, then Kate has no grounds to take him to court for back CS (if that is what she's after) because he was legally relieved of the obligation.
But--I'm just speculating because we don't know if it's a CS thing.
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Like many things about this saga, the child support narrative never really lined up with what made sense. Jon had his version of things and Kate had her version and attorneys were weighing in and each story was slightly different than the next.
So, IF, and that's a big if, Kate is coming back now saying she wants her arrears, it sure doesn't line up with the version she was peddling back in the day. Which makes what she has represented in the past very suspicious. Because like you said there wouldn't be arrears, if the court made the determination no support was owed then there were no arrears, and since apparently from what you could see he only owed the current bill, then it's not from before either.
Apparently PA court employees of which there must be thousands can easily look at the docket, which is not confidential, just limited in its access and in what it says, and there was an insider here for a time who was passing along the docket info and there would be enough on it to say things like "Petitioner files claim for 100k in back child support, motion pending response from Defendant." So, little lines like that that tell you something is up, but not a whole lot of the who what where and whys of it. I'm really thinking now this is all the info Radar has and nothing more.
It's like in LA, I can pretty much see any docket for any case I want, even celebrities. They have it linked up through our outlook accounts, and you sign in via outlook like you're checking your email! Other people can't do this, obviously, without the site giving you access. It just doesn't tell me all that much. But you can see some interesting stuff. I'm sure sites like Radar have people in my shoes who feed them interesting info gathered from dockets to build stories off of.
Wasn’t one of TFW’s previous lawsuits against Jon dismissed with prejudice or something like that? I seem to remember that she had a couple going at once and neither amounted to a hill of beans. Don’t ask me for details because I have CRS lately.
NJGal51 said... 81 Wasn’t one of TFW’s previous lawsuits against Jon dismissed with prejudice or something like that? ____
That was the one against both Hoffman and Jon. That's also the one where the lawyer couldn't find the courthouse.
It's interesting, TLC has not been doing much on the K+8 FB page. They posted on her b'day, then the announcement of the new show back in early April, and the only thing since then is one of those random TLCme videos that has nothing to do with K8 and which they post on a bunch of the pages they run. I'm wondering. . . .
Gladys is nothing if not reliable. She throws aside her #FamilyLove treacle in a heartbeat for the opportunity to bash the G kids' father. All in the name of blowing smoke up TFW's skirt. Like her idol, it annoys Gladys that Jon hasn't been edited out of this story. His presence really screws up TFW's struggling single mom narrative.
I cannot fathom how she has made this divorce fester for 9 years. Her kids must be miserable being around this chaos. In 4 years all the kids will be of legal age and then they can sue her for their money if any is left. This is like the never ending story. I feel badly for the kids and Jon.
NJGal51 said... 81 Wasn’t one of TFW’s previous lawsuits against Jon dismissed with prejudice or something like that? ____
That was the one against both Hoffman and Jon. That's also the one where the lawyer couldn't find the courthouse.
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lol! Filing a lawsuit has always been what Kate resorts to when someone/something pisses her off. 'Can we sue?' is her mantra. I wonder if her kids will be suing her someday. Karma never suffers from CRS.
foxy said... 86 I cannot fathom how she has made this divorce fester for 9 years. Her kids must be miserable being around this chaos. In 4 years all the kids will be of legal age and then they can sue her for their money if any is left. This is like the never ending story. I feel badly for the kids and Jon. ———————————————————— I think she keeps going back to this narrative because that’s when she had the most fame.
If you think about it, she’s always relied on others to give her things: money, childcare, gifts, fame. She’s never achieved it on her own. A few months ago I went back and read that Vanity Fair article at the height of all the hoopla (2009 I think). The reporter asked a pap why they were covering Kate, and the pap said because she was a big story right now. Kate asked the reporter what the pap said, and she scoffed and said “right now” incredulous. It was also interesting because she had tlc pr there, Steve there, other handlers, etc. She even had a personal shopper escort her around fao Schwartz. She’s just so f’ing lazy!
The lost wages theory makes more sense to me. Though that would probably be filed in regular civil court which means maybe the docs might be much easier to find? 100k sounds about right for a couple episodes. But can you imagine peddling that one to a judge? I lost all this money because my CHILD won’t work? You’d be sent packing so fast. Darn I wish we could find these docs!
Admin (#89), and how about crying poverty when you've got a perfectly good nursing degree and haven't had a nursing job in a decade? That old "I'd blow my entire salary on childcare" excuse is no longer viable...not that it ever was.
Remember there was a somewhat vague announcement from tlc some months back they were still going to film the family? I don’t think that has happened yet and then it morphed into this dating show announcement. I do think there is a lot of evidence something went wrong with “regular” filming. She was able to milk out the dating show out of this but I bet that’s a lot less dough because it’s mostly her and not 8 other people to pay too.
And yeah these kids will wise up and sue for their lost wages soon enough. They have proof tlc admitted they didn’t pay them correctly at first. What goes around.
Was Jon required to contribute to paying for their education, or did that come out of the allowed expense money set up for them? The amount for which she's asking is in line with tuition, books and supplies. I wonder if she blew through that already.
The timing would be right. Tuition for the coming year is due in April, depending on what plan she is on.
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And the thing is, if she can't afford it, send the kids to public school. People have to make hard choices all the time in regards to finances. And kids will adjust - we had to change schools this year due to a change in the district, and the kids adapted very easily. It's not like she needs the money for insulin for her kids - sending her kids there is a lifestyle choice. If she she can't afford it due to a change in lifestyle, then that's life.
But can you imagine peddling that one to a judge? I lost all this money because my CHILD won’t work? You’d be sent packing so fast. Darn I wish we could find these docs!
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Wasn't that part of the original agreement way back when...that if any of the family didn't want to be filmed anymore, then the deal with TLC was over? Or was Schmoops lying about that, too?
And the thing is, if she can't afford it, send the kids to public school. People have to make hard choices all the time in regards to finances.
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Right? Boo freaking hoo. She could easily cut thousands and thousands of dollars off her monthly expenses. Like you said families do this all the time, this is life. She still hasn’t learned your school, your house, all the material things just don’t matter.
NJGal51 (84) Kate just posted that picture with Jamie and a comment about work being fun with Jamie there, so I think they were off filming the craptastic dating show. She filed the lawsuit in March. Still, I agree--you're onto something. It's probably something to do with filming or Jon preventing filming. Filming is all that matters to her, and she'd definitely go after him if he got in the way. I don't know that she has the stamina for a real lawsuit. This could be a long, drawn-out, complicated process. Once Jon and Robert fought back in the last lawsuit, she backed off fast. Jon has already filed a motion to dismiss. He's not going to make it easy for her. She could end up losing, and being stuck with a big legal bill. She could also get stuck paying Jon's legal fees.
Lanc Native (95) I thought Jon said the money in the kids' trust was for their education--both private school and college. I have to wonder if there's enough money in there to pay for 15-plus years of 6-figure education expenses. I remember reading during the divorce that there was $900,000 in trust for the kids. That is not enough to pay for all that, even with the kids' income from the show. Maybe Kate invested the money well, but that still wouldn't be enough. She would have to be dipping into the principal every year. You can only do that for so long before you run into trouble. Still, Kate has been the one with primary custody, and it is her choice to send the kids to that school. If she has drained the kids' trust, then she needs to take responsibility for it.
My memory is a bit dusty, but I seem to recall that Jon was paying $20k a month in child support, during the time TLC was suing him. He paid that for quite a while.
Another thought- Kate’s always been unlikeable, I recall her neighbors saying Jon was nice but she was a bitch. Kate’s always demanded people help her, but I wonder that when Beth arrived on the scene with her big house, big income, fancy sports car and spa days, I wonder if that’s when Kate decided she needed THAT lifestyle. If Beth had never come along I sometimes wonder where the G family would be today.
FlimsyFlamsy (85) Milo is outraged because Jon destroyed her fantasy of Kate with 8 teenagers under her roof--10 if you count Nookie and Mak. And if Kate is the perfect, loving mother Milo imagines her to be, and Jon the uncaring skirt chaser, then why is Hannah with Jon? And how dare H and Jon visit C (and post pictures so Milo can't deny it)?
I have to say, I'm starting to like Barb. She stood up to Milo, and seems to really care that H is happy.
Old Poster (102) Yes, Jon was paying $22K per month at first. In 2012, 3 years after the divorce, he was paying $3600. And Kate was claiming that his CS only covered the kids' lunches.
he was paying $3600. And Kate was claiming that his CS only covered the kids' lunches.
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She must have been packing them Beluga caviar on crackers. Even at $10 a kid for 20 lunches at school per month, that would amount to a little over half of $3600. She exaggerates.
The money is the most intriguing part of this saga. If Jon was paying $20K/mth (I thought it was $22K for at least 24 months), was Kate ALSO putting in that amount per month? And wouldn't it have been 50-50? Kate was still filming, after all, and Jon's TV "career," such as it was, rapidly evaporated. I am certain both of them at various times indicated that there was adequate money--"untouchable" is what I recall Jon saying--put away for college for all 8.
So it begs the question: Assuming private school tuition has been around $120-130K/yr for all 8, that should still leave (IF the CS was 50-50) $370K-380K/yr for the first two years for all of K8's other household expenses. Expenses which we know were further offset by all the stuff TLC paid for (5 freezers full of old cheese cubes, anyone?). I wouldn't doubt that K8 socked away a good chunk of Jon's $450K+ against the time when Jon would no longer have that sort of money, so she should have been okay for quite a long time.
I don't know how she thinks she can sue him for something she calls "child support," especially at that level, without her having to come clean about the way she has spent the kids' money over the years, not to mention how much she personally has contributed to their "support." I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that deposition.
I find any claim regarding child support by Kate to be disingenuous. The children have been supporting themselves as well as supporting her. As Admin. stated earlier, just imagine telling a judge she wants 'more' from Jon because he is responsible for the children not working to support themselves and her.
Sad but true (107) the kids' trust is revocable, so Kate can take the money out if she wants. IIRC, the money could be used for the health and welfare of the kids, which means she could dip into it to pay the mortgage, utilities, groceries, health care, schooling--pretty much anything she could claim was for the kids. The house was supposed to be part of the kids' trust, but Kate put it in her name jointly with the kids' trust and then refinanced it in 2011. She does as she pleases with the kids' money and property. I'm sure when the trust was set up, it was intended (at least by Jon) to pay for the kids' educations. But in Kate's hands, who knows what came out of it? She used the kids to support her lifestyle, and I'm sure she wouldn't hesitate to use the kids' money for the same purpose.
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And her sheeple haven't learned that either. That's been their stupid argument for years.
I hate when parents say that they're trying to provide their kids with the "best of the best", or in Kate's own words a "golden platter". Why do kids need the best? The only thing they need the best of is your time, love , and attention. Everything else is BS.
Layla (#110), when TFW claimed the deck was the single most important thing she'd done for her children's welfare, I assumed that was Katespeak for, she paid for it with their money.
I find any claim regarding child support by Kate to be disingenuous. The children have been supporting themselves as well as supporting her.
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I totally agree. TFW has not worked at all to support her kids. She sold their childhoods and forced them to work to support themselves and her in the lifestyle she always coveted but could NEVER achieve on her own.
I think TFW must be doing just fine as far as money is concerned. If she has her money and the kids' money invested, it has most likely grown substantially in just the last year, or year and a half, due to market conditions and a huge upswing in the stock market.
Jon's back to posting about his DJ gigs on Instagram. Today, he posted about gigs he has this Friday night and Saturday night. Unlike TFW, he actually works, (two jobs), rather than living off the kids.
I hate when parents say that they're trying to provide their kids with the "best of the best", or in Kate's own words a "golden platter". Why do kids need the best? The only thing they need the best of is your time, love , and attention. Everything else is BS.
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Sociologists at Freakenomics have studied this extensively, like really scientifically. Analyzed, turned over and written about it in books. The biggest, biggest factor in a kid having a stable and good childhood is having good and appropriate parents. It’s not school, teachers, coaches, pastors, friends or others. It’s just good solid parents. Inner city kids come out just fine with great parents. Kate was so busy worrying about everything else she forgot about that and even cut one out.
.....It’s just good solid parents. Inner city kids come out just fine with great parents. Kate was so busy worrying about everything else she forgot about that and even cut one out.
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TFW wasn't busy worrying about anything but her own quest for fame and fortune. And, she didn't forget about anything. She has never put the interests of the kids first. It's always been about her and what she wants. Those kids have never been anything to her other than a tool for her to achieve what she desired (fame and fortune). She was too lazy and untalented to ever achieve either one on her own, so she manipulated a HOM pregnancy.
I was under the impression that there may be more than one "trust" (one or more perhaps irrevocable) and that the kids' earnings (in their individual "trust" funds) were what could be drawn against for their expenses. But we'll likely never know.
I am thrilled Jon has reunited with his son. Times they are a changing. And Hannah, how wonderful. I will do some digging tomorrow. Poster from long ago. Pennsylvania.
Sad but true (118) There may have been separate trusts for each child--the document I remember seeing was from Hailey Glassman, who took notes while Jon and Kate were fighting on the phone. She had written down that the kids' trust contained $900,000 plus the house and the blue van, and it also said that Kate had named Steve as trustee. Jon didn't want Steve to be trustee and demanded that he be removed (can't blame Jon for that one!).
Kate and the kids haven't made huge amounts of money for the last 7 years, and considering how expensive the kids' school is, I think Kate has probably been taking money out of their trusts to pay for it. She has not made enough money in all that time to cover living expenses and the kids' school. The stock market has done well for the last couple years, but she may have been borrowing from the principal of their trusts for years before that--especially when they weren't filming. There may not have been a large balance in the accounts, meaning there wouldn't be much interest earned.
I was just at Dunkin' Donuts (it's National Donut Day, and I'm a patriot) and saw a mom with her 2 sons, who looked about 7 and 11. She was so sweet with them. She was patting the younger boy's cheek. Then she threw her arm around the older boy's shoulder, and he leaned into her and put his arm around her waist. They were all excited because they were getting a free donut with each drink purchase.
I watched this group, and thought about TFW and her sons. Did we ever see such warmth, affection and ease between them? The family I saw this morning didn't look like a "golden platter" family. But they looked like they were capable of "making memories" spending only $5 on a special on-the-way-the-way-to-school treat.
I follow Jon on Instagram so his posts with Hannah and Colin are what prompted me to check in here again with this community, it's been years! There is no K8 news ever here in the UK where I currently live. She's non-existent here. Give it a few more years and I think K8 will have alienated most of her kids.
Hmm, this is interesting. As I posted before, there are a few longtime TFW fans who have been posting comments on Jon's Instagram posts of pics with Hannah. One of them was patriciachow. Interestingly, she posted a comment on Jon's IG post yesterday about his DJ gigs this weekend. TFW isn't going to like how some of her longtime fans appear to be supporting Jon now:
Comment on TFW's latest IG post (the dog pics from last week):
teigan14x Where is Hannah and why is she living with Jon I'm just so curious and where is Colin why dont you start to answer questions and reveal the truth
I wonder if Hannah will be with TFW on the nights Jon works. Would she legally be allowed to stay with his gf? I really wonder if that was a week-long stay with Jon or more permanent? I really hope the latter.No more IG pictures?
Hi all, I also come back to check in every now and then and love the fact that the blog is still going strong! I’m so happy to think that Hannah is with Jon and that they see Collin! In reference to coupon cabin, I don’t know if anyone watches the real housewives of New York, but the owner of coupon cabin, Scott, is now dating Tinsley Mortimer and has appeared on the show a few times, as well as, them all participating in funny commercials for coupon cabin.
Also. I’m not sure if Bravo and TLC are connected in some way, but In regards to Twist of Kate, there is now a show on bravo with Ryan Serhant, a realtor, from million dollar listing, where he goes to peoples work and helps them learn how to sell. He is very good at it and seems to really care. Seems like the same premise as what Kate was supposed to do with Twist of Kate, but Ryan is a much better pick!
I can’t see this dating show taking off. And who needs their BFF to go on dates with them, and Is it really practical to have to fly to find a man!! I’m sure the line of eligible men will be around the block for a 42 year old, sue happy, shrew!
There's an article about Jacob Roloff from Little People, Big World. It said he has a new book, and he talks of how he was expelled from school.
"Jacob added that he found himself usually “isolated” in high school due to his reality star status, which made it harder for him to attend school"
He doesn't appear on the show anymore but seems to be OK with his family in social media pictures. The twins have children on the show now, one a dwarf. Families might not be as messed up as the Gosselins, but there are consequences for children on reality TV.
"the owner of coupon cabin, Scott, is now dating Tinsley Mortimer"
I don't watch the housewives shows, but a google search showed TM is a fortysomething, blonde reality star. She doesn't have kids. I guess he didn't woo blonde, fortysomething reality star Kate.
In regards to Twist of Kate, there is now a show on bravo with Ryan Serhant, a realtor, from million dollar listing, where he goes to peoples work and helps them learn how to sell. He is very good at it and seems to really care. Seems like the same premise as what Kate was supposed to do with Twist of Kate, but Ryan is a much better pick!
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Bravo should be careful...Kate might try to sue them for stealing 'her' idea. Yeah right. Her head must be ready to explode over the latest Jon/Collin/Hannah reveal and now a show that could have been hers if she'd have actually put some effort into it. Poor thing.
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If Hannah has to return to the GHFEC when Jon is working his dj job, I feel sorry for her. Narc's are unpredictable. She could treat Hannah like a princess or like dirt for being a traitor. It's like walking into a mine field.
Remember that cockamamie cruise TFW was hustling a few years back?, She would tweet away to her fans like they were her best girlfriends. When one was on the fence about going, TFW responded, "Do it do it do it!"
But now she's pulled another disappearing act, and it seems like fewer and fewer fans care. If she doesn't need them, they don't exist. Not unlike, sadly, her poor son.
I remember her. It was unclear on which side of the fence she was. Sometimes she was a fan; other times she would call Kate out on things. She never seemed to hold back and called it like she saw it.
FlimsyFlamsy-she’s NEVER cared about her fans. They are a means to an end, just like her family. Remember at the Grove with her “my favorite Martian” gray striped dress when Steve told her to take a few pictures with her fans and the mic picked up her “this wasn’t part of it” comment while she purses her lips then her plastic fake smike for the cameras? Everyone is a means to her end-fame and tv. Everyone is expendible-including her kids, family and fans. If you can’t help her, you are shunned and sent away.
jolie Jacquelyn said... 140 I'm happy to see some familiar names from the past popping back in too! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So am I! I used to comment here years ago, but after it seemed Kate and karma would never get acquainted, only checked in periodically. The current mood here is so much lighter now, now that we have something to celebrate. Proof that Collin is safe, is in touch with his dad, and Hannah constantly seeing Jon (and maybe even living with him) are all HUGE triumphs.
jongosselin1 Starting day off right!!!! Djing today 11-4pm and 10-2am. This won’t be my last cup today!!! Thank you Benchwarmers Coffee and Doughnuts!!!
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It's a pic of a cup of coffee. IG says he posted it from West Reading, PA.
jongosselin1 Chatty Monks Grand Opening IG their new brewery and first canning!!!! Check it out. Food, drinks, music and prizes. 101 N Carroll Street, Reading. PA
A&E is going to do a documentary on the Osbourne's reality show. That should be really interesting. That was one of the first really monster-huge hit reality shows that revolved around simply watching a family around their home. Paving the way for shows like Kate's.
The current mood here is so much lighter now, now that we have something to celebrate. Proof that Collin is safe, is in touch with his dad, and Hannah constantly seeing Jon (and maybe even living with him) are all HUGE triumphs.
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As much as I'm enjoying the upbeat tone of the blog, it's still just really tough to know Golly Gee couldn't hang on to see it. She JUST missed this!
I have to hang onto the idea that she can see and know what all is going on from up there and is thrilled.
Admin (#147), I agree that it's bittersweet, knowing Golly Gee isn't here to share our celebration. But, yeah, I hope she "knew" before all of us somehow!
Soon we should be getting TFW's yearly post celebrating the end of the school year. She just LOVES having her kids home! The same kids she was thrilled to be away from for 50% of their childhood, because that's what worked best for her -- um, I mean, them!
Bluebird...I think it was you who who wanted to know what to do on the Cape. If it wasn't you, I apologize and this is for the person who wanted to know. These are just a few things.
In Sandwich, on the upper Cape, there is the Sandwich Glass Museum and Heritage Museum and Gardens. Also the Sandwicn Boardwalk which is presently being repaired after being hammered by all the storms we had this winter.
On the Mid-Cape, in Hyannis you have the JFK Museum; you can do a duck tour in which you tour the sights in downtown Hyannis and on the water in an amphibious vehicle; Cape Cod Beer which is a brewery which gives tours; take a whale watch out of Barnstable Harbor.
On the Outer Cape you have Truro Vineyards which has wine and rum tastings; Cape Cod National Seashore; take a whale watch out of Provincetown.
There are a lot of trails on the Cape to hike or bike and Cape Cod Rail will take you on a scenic tour by train.
My town of Sandwich is the oldest town on Cape Cod and has a lovely historic district. Besides Sandwich, my favorite town is Provincetown. It's the furthest town on the Outer Cape and it's a quaint, little town full of incredible artists. If you get out there, if you can, take a hike up the Pilgrim Monument. The view at the top is spectacular.
This is only a small sample of things to do. If you google things to do on Cape Cod during the summer, it will give you a lot more info.
One thing I will warn you about: if the weather is bad, don't go anywhere near Route 28. You will sit in bumber to bumper traffic and get nowhere.
My favorite beaches are Old Silver in North Falmouth and South Cape in Mashpee. My favorite restaurants are Colombo's in Hyannis and Ocean House in Dennisport.
Jon's comment 'Thank God' school is over may mean H will be with him for the summer? Or that he hates meeting TFW at the bus-stop? Idk, but I hope H has a great summer with her dad. Would be nice if the other kids could join them for outings and also Collin. I think Collin would not be given to Jon 24/7 since he works nights but maybe some weekends or day visits? All wishful thinking here.
I think Collin would not be given to Jon 24/7 since he works nights but maybe some weekends or day visits? All wishful thinking here.
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That is no reason not to give a child back to his parent, even a child with special needs.
Almost all parents work these days.
He just needs to work out a plan for Collin when he can't be there. Colleen, relatives, friends, etc. Simple. And Collin may be fine to be left on his own for short periods in the evenings, he's not a toddler. We don't know the extent of his issues or whether he is capable of watching himself from time to time.
Right. I just thought fresh out of lockdown or so it seemed, he would need special supervision of parent or guardian.Not sure of the legalities of Jon's custody and who would be allowed to supervise Collin.Just random thoughts.
My favorite restaurants are Colombo's in Hyannis and Ocean House in Dennisport.
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Don't forget Persy's for breakfast in Hyannis!
Have you tried the Brazilian in Hyannis? Is it still there? I don't think it's as good as other Brazilians that I've been to, in Atlanta, Philly and New York.
Right. I just thought fresh out of lockdown or so it seemed, he would need special supervision of parent or guardian.Not sure of the legalities of Jon's custody and who would be allowed to supervise Collin.Just random thoughts.
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If for some reason he needs full time supervision they’ll work with Jon on ensuring he has a support system to help him. Even in the worst of circumstances none of us in child welfare expect parents to always be there. What is expected is appropriate care is set up when they can’t and that there is consistency. Besides Jon would run himself ragged being on 24/7. It’s normal and expected that when this is necessary parents make sure they have time to do other things like work and rest. They’re no good to the kid if they’re running on empty. I wouldn’t worry about him working. He can do so.
Another thing when kids are transitioned home, it often comes with intensive home services. There is a service that I believe is national called WRAP Around, and it's a team of experts like therapists and social workers who are the home sometimes every single day, sometimes a few days a week, depending on the child's needs. Each WRAP child has a team of people, usually 4-5 people, plus their parents. They help with everything in the home when it comes to transitioning there. It won't just be like Jon gets to pick up Collin and take him home and he's on his own. There will be transitional services to support successful reunification.
Admin (#156), I just imagined TFW reading your brief summation of what C's transition would involve, and her eyes glazing over, and saying, "This wasn't supposed to be part of it." She sent the boy away, and wants him back "fixed," or not at all. She is a horrible mother.
Admin (#156), I just imagined TFW reading your brief summation of what C's transition would involve, and her eyes glazing over, and saying, "This wasn't supposed to be part of it." She sent the boy away, and wants him back "fixed," or not at all. She is a horrible mother.
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This boy will never be back in her care. She does indeed want a replacement product. She sent her defective one back to the manufacturer. It’s not going to work that way, it will be work to have him back home, real work. It will require patience, persistence, understanding and the ability to love your child for him and not what you want him to be. You will have to work with a lot of other people and listen to other opinions and take their recommendations. Jon is the only one capable of this.
“In regards to Twist of Kate, there is now a show on bravo with Ryan Serhant, a realtor, from million dollar listing, where he goes to peoples work and helps them learn how to sell. He is very good at it and seems to really care. Seems like the same premise as what Kate was supposed to do with Twist of Kate, but Ryan is a much better pick!“
Was it ever confirmed anywhere what happened to the Twist of Kate? TFW was in her prime when this show was in its planning stages. And suddenly, Poof, Gone! Wonder if Kate threw a fit when she realized that she wouldn’t get treated like the Queen that she thinks she is. TLC may have decided that it wasn’t worth the effort. And remember when Kate tried to pitch a traveling show idea? That would have been all about “ME ME (Oh and the kids) “ traveling the world and getting pampered. Thank god that never materialized.
And remember when Kate tried to pitch a traveling show idea? That would have been all about “ME ME (Oh and the kids) “ traveling the world and getting pampered. Thank god that never materialized.
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Remember the clothes line that got dumped overseas somewhere? Was there ever an explanation for that?
What a great close-up photo of Jon and Hannah. She has his nose and his eyes! Such a pretty girl.
If anyone is looking for a British detective show to binge on, I can recommend SCOTT & BAILEY on Netflix. I’ve just watched the first 3 episodes of the first season & I’m loving it. There are 5 seasons listed, so I know what l’ll be doing for the next while!
PA Dutch Mom...yes the Brazilian Restaurant is still there. I've never been. I've heard it is good but a lot of food. There is a fairly new Peruvian restaurant called Tumi we went to once that was very good. Lots of restaurant choices to choose from all over the Cape.
Twist of Kate was shelved after some filming that showed kart to be an abysmal flop at "acting"... locals in the restaurants said she was painful to watch. We know that to be true! And the Paula Deen show filming was auditions with different folks to see who would be the best fit. Local chatter atbthe time said she again was unable to even carry on a conversation and somewhere I read kart spent time trying to impress Paula sons. Like her or not, Paula was not going to put up with any nonsense that kart was peddling that might make her show have low ratings. IIRC, kart shared that she was actually doing the show with Paula and did not say it was an audition with several other contenders being screen ed for best onscreen chemistry.
I think shows will film scenes and then discard if not viable .... wonder how much film of kart is on cutting room floors, unusable.....
Maybe they showed Twist Of K8 to a target audience and it bombed which is why it never saw the light of day. I know that Bally’s and the MGM Grand have special screening areas where they pay people to watch new shows and give their opinions. They only take people between that age demographic that the sponsors want to sell to. They seem to want the 18-45 age group. I don’t know why they don’t take those of us that are a few years above because, realistically, we’re probably spending more money on sponsors products than some of the younger folks (I did say this same thing to the people at Bally’s when they wouldn’t let us review new shows because we’re the ancient age group of 55-60 and we didn’t even want the money, we just wanted to see what new shows were being pitched. OK, rant over). I’m sure they do this in other cities besides Las Vegas.
Fame whore Kate Gosselin has repeatedly used her eight kids to pitch reality TV series to the TLC network (which always seems to bite). With her kids overexposed, the reality TV “star” has turned her attention back to her favorite subject: herself. Her latest bid to both stay in the spotlight and avoid getting a real job is Kate Plus Date, a show based on the divorced Gosselin’s decision to start dating again. I already pity the men who’ll be put through the wringer for this latest exercise in narcissism.
The show derives from Gosselin’s conviction that it would be awful to be an old maid.
In a gushing article on People.com, the divorced, 43-year-old talks about her dread of ending up unmarried.
“I started picturing myself sitting in a rocking chair, knitting, and words like ‘old maid’ and ‘spinster’ started to come to mind, and I realized that no, I don’t want that to be my fate,” she said.
Yes, she certainly has an accurate picture of us old maids and spinsters. We do spend most of our time sitting in rocking chairs and knitting. After all, we have no husbands, so what else can we do with our time?
Gosselin blames her kids for her concerns about being single. Because they’re all getting older, with two about to leave for college, “it almost became like a worry for them, too, like ‘Mommy, you’re gonna be all alone soon,’” she told People. Gosselin deduced from the fact that some of her offspring are dating that they are ALL going to get married someday. “It became apparent: they want someone for me. They want me to have somebody in my life.”
Kate Plus Date, which will air on TLC this fall. I can only imagine the dreadful reality TV shows to follow: Kate Gets Married (in a spectacle that will rival Harry and Meghan’s recent nuptials). Kate Gets Divorced…Again. Kate Becomes a Grandmother. Kate Goes through Menopause. Kate…
Damn. I keep seeing people making comments on Jon's IG, and now Hannah's IG, that Jon and the kids should be on reality TV. FFS, give it a rest people. These kids deserve to finally be left alone. Haven't they seen enough of these kids??
itskatelynn_not_katielynn @tlc give Jon and Hannah a show���� I miss seeing him on tv being the loving father he is!
miloandjack2016 Buckle up Mom...more new pics of your son posted on IG! Surprised to hear he went shopping. Many take this as a sign he will be coming home soon?? @Kateplusmy8
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Well, now Milo has posted a second comment there:
miloandjack2016 Hey...new email about end of yr...Busted! 😋 @kateplusmy8
Today was the San Diego Marathon and I didn't hear any comments or see video shots from the local stations about TFW attending. I'm sure her friend The Hispanic Elvis, I think he was called, missed her.
Former Lurker (173) I get the feeling Milo has appointed herself the position of Chief Tattler, trolling Jon's and Hannah's IG so she can run to Kate when something new shows up. Let's see, Jon mentioned the end of school, so Milo thinks she caught him discussing summer custody and violating a court order against discussing custody arrangements. Even though, of course, he said no such thing--Milo's just a little too over-eager and seeing things that aren't there. She must be bouncing off the walls in sheer excitement over the pat on the head she'll expect from Kate.
Capecodmama thanks for the suggestions. The JFK Museum, duck tour, whale watching an Pilgrim Monument sounds like a plan. I'm not too keen on beer, but the vineyards are a must. I'll also try one of the 2 restaurants you mentioned, I'm sure the seafood will be fantastic. I'm keeping my fingers crossed hoping for nice weather. Thanks again!
Nanb (#176), I hope your prediction is true...that C can be positively influenced by her siblings' contact with their dad. Sadly, I fear M may never be able to disconnect from her mother's influence. I wouldn't be surprised if a car is being dangled as a high school graduation gift next year, as a means of keeping M on Team Shrew.
Former Lurker (173) I get the feeling Milo has appointed herself the position of Chief Tattler, trolling Jon's and Hannah's IG so she can run to Kate when something new shows up.
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It's ridiculous to think Kate doesn't know what is going on. Surely Kate notices Hannah is NOT LIVING WITH HER. Come on Milo.
Also, Kate becomes enraged. Does it occur to Milo that tattling to her could enrage her, causing her to lash out at others, even her own kids still around?
About Gladys. There is no way to rein her in. I'm surprised that none of the sheeple has told her to zip it. She's out of control and has to be one of dumbest fans that Kate ever had. What a moron. I'd love to see Kate go off on her.
Soon we should be getting TFW's yearly post celebrating the end of the school year. She just LOVES having her kids home! The same kids she was thrilled to be away from for 50% of their childhood, because that's what worked best for her -- um, I mean, them!
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Yes, her annual phony school's out for summer post should be any day now. Last year, she posted this video of the two (remaining) boys riding a go-kart on June 5th:
Admin (181) The sheeple have always considered the kids to be Kate's possessions. For so many years they have said that she can do as she pleases with HER kids. There's no understanding there of the fact that the kids are humans, individuals, and that Kate's choices could have a negative impact on their lives. It's like they're lifeless toys that belong to Kate and she can do what she wants with them and refuse to share them with Jon. But they are growing up so fast, and the negative effects of Kate's choices will become more and more evident with time. Some will leave home and never come back. Some will have emotional problems. Some will speak out. They aren't toys, she can't just set them on a shelf and forget them when she's done using them.
Bluebird...You're welcome. I hope you enjoy your visit. I don't drink beer but my husband does enjoy the brewery. The vineyard wine is very good. The last time we were there they were just getting into making rum so if you go you'll be able to have rum tastings as well as the wine. The Ocean House restaurant is right on the water so not only is the food good but the view is outstanding.
For so many years they have said that she can do as she pleases with HER kids. There's no understanding there of the fact that the kids are humans, individuals, and that Kate's choices could have a negative impact on their lives. It's like they're lifeless toys that belong to Kate and she can do what she wants with them and refuse to share them with Jon.
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Yes. It's almost like they're fighting over the house in a divorce, instead of the children. Human beings, with feelings.
Anonymous (176) and Formerly Duped (179), not Cara's real Instagram account, but I too hope she will eventually be close to her dad again. Hopefully in time...
I worry about Hanna when she is at school. There is probably a divide between her and her siblings. This divide probably extends to her peers including mutual friends she has with her siblings. I hope she has a support system in place to help her deal with this.
Admin (#190), you beat me to it! The Former Wife, widow of Jon Gosselin. Remember, she was incensed that he would have the slightest say over what happened with HER children. He's dead to her.
Late is not a spinster. Spinsters earned their independence by spinning fiber into thread/yarn. They were independent self supporting women. TFW can not support herself. She needs TV, her kids exc.
Andrea, I also worry about Hannah. Not only does she have to answer questions from her siblings regarding her visits with Collin but she also has to deal with Kate when she visits her. Kate probably asks her a million questions and Hannah must be torn between the two, not wanting to hurt either parent. What a burden to put on a child!
Andrea, the IG photos seem to indicate that Hannah is a popular girl with her own 'squad' apart from A and L. I was surprised L was not in it. She is also class President. I worry more about the other two, but so much depends on the cliques in the school and even the opinion of parents but as locals have mentioned, TFW is not really of interest to many.I also worry about how H is treated at 'home' and what her siblings are forced to do to her.I also hope school guidance counselor or the like can give them all a place to turn to fro support
I agree, H appears to have lots of friends, judging by her IG photos. She is class president. She seems to be very happy with her dad. There are several photos posted by her and Jon of the two of them out in public places. Kate is the one who always seemed to isolate the kids, and that is disturbing. We all knew something was up when Jon posted photos of himself and Hannah at a Super Bowl party, while Kate posted a photo of her sad little SB spread in her basement. No way would Kate allow Hannah to go out and celebrate with other people if she had some say about it.
Hannah seems like a strong-minded girl. Kate couldn't beat her down last summer when H started to stand her ground about staying with her father, and that must have been a horrible time for H. But H prevailed. She looks genuinely happy with Jon, and so does Collin. When is the last time we saw C look as happy as he does in the photos with Jon and Hannah? I worry more about the kids who are still with Kate.
Layla (#198), M and C will be graduating from high school in a year. What is ordinarily a happy family time will be tainted by TFW's failure to co-parent. Will Jon be allowed to attend? If so, will he be seated far from his other children? If he indeed has custody of H, how awkward will that be for her?
For all her blather about "making memories," TFW never seems to understand that BAD memories can be just as powerful for children as good ones, if not moreso.
What is ordinarily a happy family time will be tainted by TFW's failure to co-parent. Will Jon be allowed to attend?
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He'd damn well better be allowed. That shrew has no right to keep him away from there, or weddings, or funerals. (Or her own garage sales for that matter)
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https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/05/kate-gosselin-demands-thousands-ex-jon-court-battle/
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TFW is upset that Jon's positive relationship with Hannah and Collin is making her look bad. For revenge she's now trying to paint Jon as the bad guy for not paying support, which she relieved him of. Things are not going as she planned and she's seeking revenge.
Whoever predicted TFW spent the weekend on the phone with her lawyers were right. Hell hath no fury like a shrew who's lost control.
Radar online got it wrong like so many others. A spouse can't relieve you of child support. Only the court can. Geez. Get your sh&t correct before you report it. Kate reportedly filed in March. Such a revengeful woman.
She is literally the most hateful human being I think I've ever seen. Every one of her actions toward her ex in the 9 years since the divorce has been punitive, as if she thinks she has the right to punish him when he does something she perceives as against her. All because he didn't do what she wanted waaaaaay back when. I hope that a judge shuts her down right quick. And tells her never to come back.
I always thought Milo was an idiot, but now she's really proving it.
"Btw...time sensitive info sent."
The song "Secret Agent Man" is playing in my head. I imagine Milo running around in disguise sending top secret information to Kate.
And about the comment on the turtle IG, Milo is still living in the past with Alexis and her aldergators. Milo has a certain narrative about the Gosselins in her head that Kate put there, and she's going into shock.
And she was surprised he went shopping? Just because Kate wasn't showing him, he was sitting in a room alone by himself? She's still holding out hope for a special Kate plus 8 where Kate and Collin have a beautiful reunion? And her stupid inspirational quotes. Any wings Kate has is the flying monkey kind, not the angel kind.
Not too many comments yet but they are 100% in Jon’s favor. I particularly like this one...
He should sue her for child support now that Hannah lives with him. LOL.....I'd pay the filing fees for him just to see her lose her mind.
Here it is:
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/05/kate-gosselin-demands-thousands-ex-jon-court-battle/
Most Shocking Jab Yet: Kate Gosselin Demands $132K From Ex Jon In Bitter Court Battle
Reality mom previously relieved her former husband from paying child support.
Kate Gosselin is demanding thousands from her ex-husband Jon in a bitter new legal battle, RadarOnline.com can exclusively report.
According to shocking court records obtained by Radar, the mother of eight filed a lawsuit against her ex-husband in March. She is demanding Jon cough up more than $132,000.
Although it remains unclear why the famed reality TV mom is demanding the money from her ex, Radar has learned Jon refuses to pay and has already lawyered up.
“He’s contesting it,” a source told Radar. “They’re fighting it out in court.”
The bitter exes have been locked in litigation for over two months. Court documents show a sheriff personally served Jon with the complaint on April 5, 2018. One day following the news, Jon responded with a petition to strike.
“It’s a lot of money,” an insider told Radar. “Both parties are contesting it. It’s not over yet.”
So far, the nasty legal battle has cost the former Jon & Kate Plus Eight stars money just for filing. Kate has already dropped over $300 for filing fees, while Jon’s response cost him nearly $200, court records show.
As Radar readers know, the bitter exes are also still in a years-long custody battle over their eight children. Kate has publicly shamed Jon in the past for failing to pay a dime of child support.
Back in 2012, Radar reported the father of eight owed over $3,500 in child support payments. Kate, however voluntarily relieved Jon of child support obligations for their eight kids after the famed dad said he could not afford it.
Amid their new legal battle, fans have speculated that the former couple’s daughter, Hannah, 14, is now living with Jon as she’s been seen in several photos alone with with him in recent weeks.
Jon also alluded that the two reunited over Memorial Day weekend in a cryptic Instagram video.
“I’d like to thank everyone for the love and support you’ve showed us this week,” Jon said to the camera. “Obviously, you know the situation. If you don’t know the situation you should just get together with a friend or anyone that understands the situation. But I want to say Happy Memorial Day, good luck to everyone and have a safe and happy weekend.”
Jon and Hannah’s alleged reunion is likely a tough reality for Kate to face. In August 2017, Hannah allegedly refused to return to her mom Kate’s house after spending time with her father.
In 2016, the notoriously critical mom accused Jon of acting inappropriately with Hannah in a shocking police report. Jon denied the claims.
Jon’s attorney declined to comment when reached by Radar.
TFW is losing control becauseHannah may or may Be with JON full time and if she’s not, she’s seeing more of him AND they’re seeing Collin. So, her solution is to sue Jon for money he doesn’t have and then, if she wins and he can’t pay, she’ll try and send him to jail for being a deadbead dad. She is a real class act. I just hope that Jon has a good lawyer. I wonder how far TFW will take this...far enough for all her dirty laundry to be aired in public?
OMG. She is such. a. bitch.
Well, the recent actions of Kate should make her dating resume' all the more unattractive.
She should be so embarrassed. Horrible.
Only a mother who hates her ex more than she loves her kids would behave in this way. H's and C's smiles with their father are probably like a punch on the stomach to her. An outright betrayal. She is a horrible mother.
capecodmama said... 4
Radar online got it wrong like so many others. A spouse can't relieve you of child support. Only the court can. Geez. Get your sh&t correct before you report it. Kate reportedly filed in March. Such a revengeful woman.
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The superbowl posts likely enraged her
Thanks for the welcome :)
Sad to see the new radar article... hope for the health and well being of both H and C this goes Jon’s way. Also, good to see the three of them out and about this weekend! I hope like the rest of posters here this means C is gearing towards discharge from treatment! And trying to slowly acclimate towards release and to Jon!!
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The superbowl posts likely enraged her
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Yes, that and the Valentines Day post that Hannah did on her IG. Both pics were of Jon, Colleen and Hannah out having fun together like normal people.
Jon's Superbowl post - Feb 4th:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BeydwRpg_Oa/?taken-by=jongosselin1
Hannah's Valentines Day post - Feb 14th:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfMswh3h-8z/?taken-by=itsmehjg
Happy is a choice said... 14
Thanks for the welcome :)
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Adding my welcome, and hope to see you posting more. I like your screen name!
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Well, the recent actions of Kate should make her dating resume' all the more unattractive.
She should be so embarrassed. Horrible.
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Good point. What sane man would want to get involved in her mess of a life? Although, we know it's not real. It's a phony dating show, just an excuse for her to be on TV. How TLC wants to be involved with her I don't know. Hopefully, they'll bail on her and never air the Fake Date with Khate show.
The Crazy Days and Nights site has a blind item that sounds like Kate.
This reality mother all of you know has never really been considered soft and cuddly. Apparently she has raided the trusts set up for her kids to maintain her lifestyle.
I wonder where she came up with that figure...her timing is so obvious with what’s going on. I guess this is the only way to punish him by suing ...we know she will not stand for the perceived betrayal on Hannah’s part...I wouldn’t be surprised if she starts suing her own children...boy she is pissed off..
Hannah's IG post made the Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5784737/Jon-Gosselin-captured-rare-photo-children-Collin-Hannah-fun-day-shopping.html
Jon Gosselin captured in rare photo with children Collin and Hannah after fun day of shopping
Jon Gosselin enjoyed some quality time with his kids for Memorial Day.
The Jon And Kate Plus 8 persona, 41, was captured in a photo collage with 14-year-old sextuplets Hannah and Collin on Monday.
The sweet family portrait, which was posted by Hannah, was captioned: 'So good to see Collin again I had so much fun shopping with him.'
The rest of the pictures showed Hannah and Collin together, making funny faces at the camera and laughing along.
The dad-daughter duo made the most of their time with Collin, as the young man is currently enrolled in a program away from home for children with special needs according to People.
Earlier this month dad and daughter Hannah made a visit to where Collin lives to celebrate his 14th birthday.
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The rest of the article repeats the same old b.s. about M and C not talking to Jon.
Four more years and the tups will be of age. I think they graduate when they are 19. The twins will be away in another year or so. I wonder who will defect next unless she has the 4 left so brainwashed that they are too scared to even think about leaving. Hopefully it will be Alexis. I have a feeling she is being treated the way Collin always was. What a sad family.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if she starts suing her own children.”
I was going to stay the same thing. If Kate were my mom and I was of legal age, I would move far far away and change my name. She’s completely off her rocker.
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sadly she has raided the trust accounts of her kids to help maintain her lifestyle”
Yes I totally believe this. A) She’s either too cheap to spend her own money or (B)she’s already spent a big chunk of it and is stealing from the kids to keep up appearances.
Of course we know she’s “sue happy” and she needs money to file all of these frivolous lawsuits. I sincerely hope that the kids can have access to the money that they lost their childhoods over. If not, I hope those kids sue her for every dime.
Still having problems posting, any suggestions?
The superbowl posts likely enraged her
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I'm sure she feels very one-upped and undermined by a post like that. Number one it proves they can easily go out in the community without any problem, which often seems to be her excuse why she doesn't do anything cool with the kids.
And secondly the kids are well, well old enough to attend a Super Bowl party at a venue with tasty food, music, games and lots of other people. They are way too old to be expected to spend Super Bowl Sunday in the basement with Mommy and a few sad snacks. But for whatever her various reasons, most probably having to do with a combination of laziness and control, she won't seek out a fun Super Bowl venue like this to take the kids to and have a blast. Jon does, it comes easy to him, some of the kids are picking up on it just like we always have and have decided for themselves to go his direction, and that drives her bonkers.
Yes, that and the Valentines Day post that Hannah did on her IG. Both pics were of Jon, Colleen and Hannah out having fun together like normal people.
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The V-Day post is another good example. The kid is well old enough to have a nice adult evening out with family. Looks like a somewhat nice restaurant. And how nice of the couple to include her in their night out, on the actual day. Frankly, if you get into a relationship with kids, kids come with the package, even on V-Day. There are plenty of times without them to spend time with just each other. V-day is for love, not just lovers.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she starts suing her own children...boy she is pissed off..
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When she does, it was called here ages ago.
The kids are her precious little kids only so long as they are young enough not to think for themselves. They get opinions? It's on.
Other people in a narcissist's life are TOOLS, means to an end. They are...not....people.
A spouse can't relieve you of child support. Only the court can. Geez. Get your sh&t correct before you report it. Kate reportedly filed in March. Such a revengeful woman.
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She might find herself in over her head with the family court. They might not look too kindly on her going along with their order to find it was in the children's best interest that no child support was owed by Jon, then turning around and asking for six figures in (arrears?) support.
Courts don't like shit like that. Which is it, you want the man to pay up or not pay up? Don't ping pong around. Judges, most, are not stupid, and know revenge when they see it.
Flimsy Flamsy and Layla I'm glad you remember me, as I have not posted in a couple of years, but read here every day.
In July I will be visiting Cape Cod and Boston, any suggestions would be appreciated.
As fo the POS named Kate, she will soon discover that karma is a bitch, what goes around, comes around!!!
Also Kate knows damn well Jon, nor most people, don't have 100,000 lying around to go pay her even if she WERE owed it. She knows this.
Which means she's just doing this out of spite, which is just nasty.
I think the picture that may have pissed her off the most was the cream picture. Jon’s picture showed father and daughter smiling broadly for the camera while TFW could only manage a picture with the kids’ backs to her.
I know jack about the law, but I can't imagine a judge thinking highly of a mother ditching 6 minor children in the middle of their school year to film some goofy dating show.
I wonder if Jon was able to stop her (and TLC) filming the kids. It has been said for years that she relieved him of the obligation to pay child support, and in return he allowed her to film the kids. If he decided to oppose filming (possibly a reason why there were only 3 episodes last summer), then of course she wants revenge--and she wants money. She'd see it as--well, he reneged, so I want all those years of child support money he didn't have to pay. Never mind the fact that she made money off filming the kids and kept that money--now she wants the child support too.
If he did step in and oppose filming, it would explain a lot. I believe they probably contracted for an 8-episode season, and stopped at 3 episodes due to opposition from Jon. Then finished the rest of the contract out with just Kate. I could be wrong, of course. But I'm curious to see if the dating show has 5 episodes. It can't have too many because Kate and Jamie were only gone for a week or so filming.
That blind item sure does sound like Kate. She hasn't made huge amounts of money since 2011 or so. And she doesn't seem to have cut back on her lifestyle. I just hope there's enough left for them to finish their educations.
I always thought Milo was an idiot, but now she's really proving it.
"Btw...time sensitive info sent."
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She's such a dumbass. I'm sure it's nothing important or something time sensitive at all, she's just doing it to get Kate's attention to look at it.
It's become clear now Kate knows ALL ABOUT what's going on. Like I said, stop rubbing it in Milo! SHE KNOWS. And apparently she's handling it the best way Kate knows how, can we sue? Like, the idea that Milo is the first one to notice oh shit Jon is with Hannah and seeing Collin and tries to tattle to Kate about it like it was done behind her back, is pretty flipping hilarious.
Milo is probably the type that sticks her dog's nose in the poop when they go in the house. Yeah, so, they know they pooped, Milo. They were the ones who pooped.
Oh for sure she is doing this out of spite. She wants to ruin Jon and have his last penny. I can't understand how anyone could have children with someone they cared about and then turn around and literally kill them and pretend that they never existed. Kate's world evolv s around her and no one else exists, narcissist in all its venues!!
Remember when she sued Jon the first time, claiming her children were in danger from him? And then promptly high-tailed it out of town WITH HER BODYGUARD?
I wonder if Jon was able to stop her (and TLC) filming the kids. It has been said for years that she relieved him of the obligation to pay child support, and in return he allowed her to film the kids. If he decided to oppose filming (possibly a reason why there were only 3 episodes last summer), then of course she wants revenge--and she wants money.
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We've discussed this a lot when it first happened but there are no back door deals like that in child support. Child support is for the benefit of the children and therefore cannot be used as a bargaining chip like one can use a house, car, or cash in a divorce. There are a lot of "I'll give you this if you give me that" in divorce negotiations but you simply cannot use child support as one of the "this" or "that" things. You can't. There would have HAD to have been a best interest finding about the children that they don't need support, regardless what the parents think they can negotiate about it.
Now I suppose you could always do a deal like this behind closed doors but you'd have to be extremely careful and quiet about it, and it's hard to believe a famous family with a complicated family law case would be able to pull such a thing off.
But, I do think the latest suit is revenge, but revenge for Hannah defecting and even for Jon possibly transitioning Collin home. Collin didn't suddenly start happily seeing Jon both in and out of the facility out of the blue. The boy was estranged from him. This is a process that likely goes back many months and likely involves a lot of therapy and support and services, at least back as far as the original filing of her suit. This is Jon's punishment for successfully rebuilding his relationship with Hannah and Collin.
Again, after this was already worked out in the family courts, it is hard to believe family court is going to look kindly on Kate for re-raising an issue she did not contest last time.
Also Kate's lawyer painted her as such a martyr for not going after support. What say she now?
I can't understand how anyone could have children with someone they cared about and then turn around and literally kill them and pretend that they never existed. Kate's world evolv s around her and no one else exists, narcissist in all its venues!!
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She didn't have kids with him, she had kids with his sperm.
He's a tool to her just like anyone else. Not in the name-calling sense, but he is literally a hammer or axe to her. A tool used to accomplish the job then get out, you give me splinters.
He should sue her for child support now that Hannah lives with him. LOL.....I'd pay the filing fees for him just to see her lose her mind.
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I had the same thought the second I heard this story today. He should sue HER for support for Hannah given Hannah spends, according to him, every day and night with him. Next he can go after support for Collin when he transitions home. Works both ways, bitch. It would be hilarious if he sued her for the exact same amount for Hannah. Then the judge can find the two figures cancel each other out and send Kate on her merry way plus pay Jon's attorneys fees. Bah!
I know it all goes back to Jon ending filming way back when and that pissed her off, even though it wasn't for that long before she was back up and running.
But I wonder if she's ever thought this through. The divorce and conflict brought some of the highest ratings and attention to the show. If Jon had stayed happily married to her all this time, if there hadn't been any conflict or disagreement, does she honestly think she would be where she is today?
I think quite frankly, the show would have petered out after a few more years tops and that would be that. An update special, maybe, or two, but I don't think she would have gotten Celebrity Apprentice or DWTS. It was the very conflict between them that has kept this whole thing mildly interesting even after all this time. I bet she would perish the thought, but Jon ditching the show was the best thing that ever happened to her career. So let it go already.
Also I doubt she wants Collin anyway, maybe not even Hannah at this point, so what's the problem?
To everyone who was fed up with Jon's inaction over the years, perhaps this is exactly what he feared he'd be up against.
I agree. Behaviourial issues do not always equal special needs.
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I mean, yes and no. We pretty much use special needs as a word to include behavioral problems too. Usually when a child is acting up it is the result of something even if that special need is "I am a victim of abuse and this is my post traumatic stress behavior."
But, special needs should not be used as a way to excuse bad or abusive parenting, which is what I think you're driving at. That Kate doesn't want to take responsibility for the ways he has acted out in response to her parenting and her choices for him and to the environment she put him in. Rather she wants to blame it on something he just has. When, I think there is a very good chance none of this is related to anything organic.
And that would be really good, because behavioral issues can often be addressed and changed a lot easier than something that is usually always part of you no matter how much help you get, like an intellectual disability or mental health issue.
Speaking of organic, I feel like Kate hasn't mentioned the big O in ages. I guess that got dropped right next to running?
The only thing Kate is in control of is her wine consumption.
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Ehh not sure she's even in control of THAT.
Must say I underestimated Hannah. I thought she and Leah were "mean girls" to Alexis and the boys. This was from the early days when they were rude to Jamie's son among other times. But she's really matured and stepped up to save her brother and to stand up for herself. Bravo Hannah.
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I wouldn't have called it myself, but kids aren't always predictable. Shy kids can be outgoing adults. Mean kids can be wonderfully kind adults. Kids who struggle in school can find brilliance in adulthood in the right careers. Nerds end up being popular (love when that happens personally).
Child development is interesting and complex and I suppose I should not be surprised a kid that was just being a kid, a bully even at times, has been through some important emotional development and come into her own.
That's right, Gladys. As soon as kids turn 13 they all start poisoning animals and burning down forests.
What a pill.
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This is when I'm convinced she doesn't have kids. The teen years are when your lifelong interests and passions often develop, and it's extremely common for an adult who is passionate about the environment, the outdoors, nature, etc., developed it as a teen, camping with scouts or family or on the x-country team or ski team or whatever. Many if not most kids are very aware of the environment and the outdoors. Yeesh.
But it was Hannah who reportedly went to Jon about concerns about how Collin was being treated. It's Hannah who is there visiting him and shopping with him and making goofy faces with him.
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You know the sad thing is she isn't getting any praise from her mother over this? Just a lawsuit.
A normal loving mother would be telling this child, I really admire how sensitive and caring you are. You are concerned about your brother and that is good, families look out for each other and are there for each other even in hard times. You have helped me recognize some areas I have fallen short on and I am grateful for your compassion and insight. You are a mature young lady and I am proud of you.
My god, be a mother. Be a PERSON.
OMG, Milo is insufferable! That last post (on her own IG) just annoys me. First of all, "your son"? It's THEIR son. Jon is his father. And she's "surprised" to hear he's shopping...why? Milo knows nothing about what he's allowed to do. For all she knows, he has been allowed to go places all along.
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It never was about the kids for Milo. It was always, always about Kate vs. Jon. What was the gut reaction here? How wonderful, how heart warming, he's out in the community, he might be able to go HOME soon! He's making PROGRESS!
How come Milo can't stop for one damn minute and be happy the boy is progressing? It's not a game!
I think of Golly Gee during this time, she would have been so happy to see Collin smiling out and about.
Milo spoke for a long time in that turtle video. 100 percent that's a Georgia accent if I ever heard one.
It was the very conflict between them that has kept this whole thing mildly interesting even after all this time.
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I wonder if Kate thinks her hating on Jon is still a draw for viewers the way it was nine years ago. She's trying to breathe some life into this new so-called dating show of hers but she's got nothing left. The divorce is old news. People have moved on. Maybe she should too.
The only concern now is the collateral damage we're seeing left behind by her rotten choices. I think Jon is trying to pick up the pieces of at least some of his kids to put a real family back together, not a "reality" family.
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Also, looks like Paige recently commented on Hannah’s collage photo of the recent outing telling Hannah she “should maybe dismantle the comment feature on her instagram” - I actually do for see Jon maybe suggestioning she make it a private account ... atleast til this new court stuff blows over
Paige posted this comment on Hannah's IG post tonight, apparently due to some anti-TFW comments people have left:
pc08 Hey Hannah, you should maybe disable the comments on your Instagram.
@Admin I really do think Milo is only upset because it destroys her deadbeat dad who doesn't care about his kids narrative.I believe she really wanted Kate to post a picture of Collin to try and paint it as"we knew you visited Collin".Hence why she asked Kate if he was home.
I thought Collin was making comments about Leah's hair, it was Hannah?
Admin (#46), remember Gladys' string of hash tags recently about family love? Who the eff does she think Jon is, the kids' camp counselor? He is their father. FOREVER. I bet she still believes that he left TFW. It has never been about the kids to Gladys. Never.
I don’t think you can change your mind about legal documents signed in court— it’s sorta like agreeing to who gets what in a divorce- once both parties agree to the settlement and division of property, sign, it’s a done deal— done and never to be contested again.
So...maybe the 132k she’s suing for is lost wages from the show, if Jon was successful in stopping the kids from filming? Heck, it takes $ to keep the salt water pool going and maintaining 3 cars!
Her filing against Jon was a bad idea—he can counter sue for child support and access to the kid’s trust fund, parental alienation, to name a few.
Sandylove 52....it was Leah's hair. You can bring the episode up on youtube.
Since tfw wanted her whole life documented, maybe his lawyer should put a compilation of all the jon bashing and alienation she did on all her interview circuits she did. Especially where she smugly said she knew where Colin was but not Jon or anyone else. The judge would get a very clear picture of how wicked she really is.
Wonder if suddenly Khate will see Collin for probably the first time in two years for a camera shot? Maybe she is forbidden to be around him or he'll refuse to see her.
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No, it was Hannah but I think both she and Leah told on Collin...they used to say they didn't want C as a partner and TFW said Hannah and Collin never got along...shows what a few years of maturing can do and what an untenable home environment can bring out in a person. I have great respect for Hannah now, at such a young age to stand her ground again such an intimidating abusive mother
As much as I detest TFW, I would never dream of posting a rude comment about her on H's account. That girl loves her mother. Even if she lives with Jon full time now or in the future, I'm sure the child will still love her mother.
I think that's what TFW was never able to figure out. There is no need for a winner and a loser in divorce.
If she'd co-parented with Jon, her life over the past few years could've been much easier. The kids could've been happier. And perhaps the drastic decision to send C away could've been avoided.
I don’t think you can change your mind about legal documents signed in court— it’s sorta like agreeing to who gets what in a divorce- once both parties agree to the settlement and division of property, sign, it’s a done deal— done and never to be contested again.
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Sometimes, you can change your mind, if you have good reason, but it's usually looked at with disfavor.
With due respect to Radar I don't completely trust their interpretation of the documents. I really wish they would post the actual documents so we can see for ourselves. I'm sure they got the number right, but I would like to know the justification for it. There might be some kind of explanation that makes somewhat sense. So if anyone from Radar happens to swing by please post the docs!
This lawsuit is all about Kate regaining control of the narrative. It was filed in March--probably out of spite because of the pictures Jon posted of Hannah with him. Funny, but that was at least 2 months ago, and ROL was oblivious. But now that it's clear that H is with Jon, and Jon and H are visiting C (and people--including Kate's fans--are praising Jon), ROL suddenly gets tipped off. Kate is trying to re-start the narrative of Jon as a deadbeat dad, and herself as the long-suffering mother who has to support the kids all on her own. I don't think it's working out the way she planned because almost all of the comments are about what a b!tch she is and how badly she treated Jon on the show. Times have changed, and many years have passed since the divorce. All we have seen is Kate still being horrible to everyone around her--including the kids--and people have caught on to the fact that she is just an awful person.
Also, looks like Paige recently commented on Hannah’s collage photo of the recent outing telling Hannah she “should maybe dismantle the comment feature on her instagram” - I actually do for see Jon maybe suggestioning she make it a private account ... atleast til this new court stuff blows over
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I feel like this isn't really Paige's business. No kid wants to go on instagram and have some stranger tell them how to handle their accounts. Jon is the parent, he can handle what of her social media should be available, if any. It's a typical sheeple with no boundaries. Say something nice on her instagram or don't say anything.
believe she really wanted Kate to post a picture of Collin to try and paint it as"we knew you visited Collin".Hence why she asked Kate if he was home.
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Yes. Very likely. Milo tries to "guide" Kate to do or say certain things. She's done this for years! As if Milo knows how to handle her public image better than Kate and her team, lol, and as if Kate would take advice from such a nut, and as if Kate is a total dumbass.
Some of those may be true actually. In any case, watching Milo try to gently steer Kate is always so funny. Even funnier is watching Kate ignore her prodding or not even get it in the first place.
Admin (#63), if and when TFW finally does post a picture with C (sold to the highest bidder, of course), it wouldn't surprise me if she pretends it was taken BEFORE the pictures Jon posted. Maybe she could stick a Christmas tree, or a pumpkin in the background. So she can be the winner. Isn't that what being a good parent is all about?
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Admin (#63), if and when TFW finally does post a picture with C (sold to the highest bidder, of course), it wouldn't surprise me if she pretends it was taken BEFORE the pictures Jon posted. Maybe she could stick a Christmas tree, or a pumpkin in the background. So she can be the winner. Isn't that what being a good parent is all about?
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It will be a PEOPLE exclusive, with her "setting the record straight" again. And how horrible Jon is, and she's the victim in all of this. Does anyone want to take bets on how many times "I" or "Me" will appear in the story? I'd say at least 50....
If the blind item is referring to Kate, Jon could request the court to determine if an outside executor could oversee the trust fund.
One of These days Kate is going to push and bully one time too many and it’s going to blow up in her face.
The years of parental alienation provide pretty damning evidence for Jon, should he pursue legal actions.
Does anyone want to take bets on how many times "I" or "Me" will appear in the story? I'd say at least 50....
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I'm in. Put me down for 47.
Her filing against Jon was a bad idea—he can counter sue for child support and access to the kid’s trust fund, parental alienation, to name a few.
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I'm out of the loop here. Exactly why is Kate suing Jon? Child support? Money owed for what? Who is the attorney of record for Kate? Remember the dude she used in a lawsuit and he showed up at the wrong courthouse?
When she filed the lawsuit against Jon before, she posted that it was for the safety and welfare of the kids. Then when she dropped it, there was nothing explaining why it was dropped. Wasn't there a reason why their safety was no longer in jeopardy?
Kate really needs to be careful about this. There are so many things that could be disclosed in a deposition, questions she will have to answer. Bad move on her part, but she's just too dumb to see it. The money that was set aside for the kids was earmarked for their expenses, well-being, safety and whatever. Would she have to show, withdrawal by withdrawal, that the money was legitimately used for its intended purpose and not for her own bills?
Does anyone want to place a bet how long it takes Coyne to hop into bed with Kate about this?
Yes. Very likely. Milo tries to "guide" Kate to do or say certain things. She's done this for years!
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She (or he) is a sad, pathetic little woman (or man). Sometimes I wonder if any of the sheeple take her seriously or just consider her an annoyance and let her live in her own delusional fantasy world.
Can you imagine having a neighbor like that? I wonder if she's like that in the real world, or only on the internet where she can be ignored and not do too much damage.
I think what's really a shame is that she's too darn dumb to know that she's a pest and that Kate has never needed her for anything. Wouldn't you think those scary tweets when she picked up her rescue dog, and how Kate ignored her would have alerted Milo to the fact that Kate just doesn't care?
I tend to take the ROL story with a grain of salt. If they have "court documents" as implied in their article, why not post them?
We only have ROL's word that Kate is suing Jon. They offer no proof, nada. No other outlet has posted this story, except to quote ROL's story.
So unless someone posts the actual court documents, I tend to believe this is just another story planted by Kate or one of her minions to make Jon look bad.
Milo's tweet in response to this tweet:
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Replying to @MiloandJack @jgosselin10 @Kateplusmy8
It's been all over the news! I'm so over anyone giving him credit for a #Selfie
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack May 26
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Agreed! Posting daily selfies w/one child has little or nothing to do with whether a man is a good father or not. So much for his vow to protect his kids privacy.
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Yet Kate posting pictures of her children or dogs have everything to do with her being a good mother and dog lover.
Omg, Milo you hypocritical, busybody biotch - Go F yourself!!!
I tend to take the ROL story with a grain of salt. If they have "court documents" as implied in their article, why not post them?
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I have a sneaking suspicion they have either only seen a minute order or docket and not the actual paperwork or they have merely spoken to someone who has seen those items. I believe Kate is requesting that money, it’s an awfully odd story to make up and Jon appears to be dropping hints something is up, but, like I said I’d like to see the actual documents. God forbid there may very well be a reasonable explanation for the money she wants, like maybe some kind of miscalculation or something. I still tend to think it’s probably petty, but I’d like to see the actual documents to feel more comfortable saying that.
Agreed! Posting daily selfies w/one child has little or nothing to do with whether a man is a good father or not.
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Selfies are usually photos taken with your own arm. Most were not selfies. And it’s not the selfie itself anyone is saying makes him a good father. But there have been many comments that it’s nice to see Jon doing things with Hannah like coffee shops, restaurants, super bowl games and shopping. So yeah those sort of outings do suggest he is a good and appropriate father.
@KIAT Welcome back and yes i saw that twitter tread where that random fan message milo about how jon is somehow getting paid to post these pictures of Hannah and Collin.So i guess Jon can't upload pictures of his kids because the sheep think he gets paid too.Even Barb was defending Jon
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Everyone just needs to cut the crap!If they want to take selfies then that’s up to them, tired of ppl judging others!
I was thinking there was something posted long ago about Jon's child support being in a database, and went back to look. In 2012 Jon was paying 3600 a month, and there was an article that said he was behind in his payment because it showed a payment due. Jon responded that it is a recurring payment, so there is always a balance due because it has to be paid every month. It's never "paid off". So, the court was monitoring his CS payments. If Kate decided to relieve him of CS, that would not have been a legal move and those missed payments would not have gone unnoticed. They were being tracked and monitored.
The only other option for relieving him of payments is, as admin has always said, some kind of legal, binding arrangement (unlikely because it's not in the kids' best interest). A judge would have had to sign off on it. If that is the case, then Kate has no grounds to take him to court for back CS (if that is what she's after) because he was legally relieved of the obligation.
But--I'm just speculating because we don't know if it's a CS thing.
**I wonder if TLC is at all worried about their upcoming dating show starring a woman who is currently suing her ex-husband/father if her children. Doesn't look good, does it?
I'm out of the loop here. Exactly why is Kate suing Jon? Child support? Money owed for what? Who is the attorney of record for Kate? Remember the dude she used in a lawsuit and he showed up at the wrong courthouse?
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I don't think any of us are quite clear on the details because Radar is only doing their summary of what is going on instead of just posting what they have and letting us readers figure it out.
Frankly I just don't trust Radar's summary. I am itching to see what they have. Like I said, this figure could be for anything, it could be about anything, there's just no guarantee Radar has summarized this in an accurate manner and even if they have, they are awfully short on the details.
The only other option for relieving him of payments is, as admin has always said, some kind of legal, binding arrangement (unlikely because it's not in the kids' best interest). A judge would have had to sign off on it. If that is the case, then Kate has no grounds to take him to court for back CS (if that is what she's after) because he was legally relieved of the obligation.
But--I'm just speculating because we don't know if it's a CS thing.
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Like many things about this saga, the child support narrative never really lined up with what made sense. Jon had his version of things and Kate had her version and attorneys were weighing in and each story was slightly different than the next.
So, IF, and that's a big if, Kate is coming back now saying she wants her arrears, it sure doesn't line up with the version she was peddling back in the day. Which makes what she has represented in the past very suspicious. Because like you said there wouldn't be arrears, if the court made the determination no support was owed then there were no arrears, and since apparently from what you could see he only owed the current bill, then it's not from before either.
Apparently PA court employees of which there must be thousands can easily look at the docket, which is not confidential, just limited in its access and in what it says, and there was an insider here for a time who was passing along the docket info and there would be enough on it to say things like "Petitioner files claim for 100k in back child support, motion pending response from Defendant." So, little lines like that that tell you something is up, but not a whole lot of the who what where and whys of it. I'm really thinking now this is all the info Radar has and nothing more.
It's like in LA, I can pretty much see any docket for any case I want, even celebrities. They have it linked up through our outlook accounts, and you sign in via outlook like you're checking your email! Other people can't do this, obviously, without the site giving you access. It just doesn't tell me all that much. But you can see some interesting stuff. I'm sure sites like Radar have people in my shoes who feed them interesting info gathered from dockets to build stories off of.
Wasn’t one of TFW’s previous lawsuits against Jon dismissed with prejudice or something like that? I seem to remember that she had a couple going at once and neither amounted to a hill of beans. Don’t ask me for details because I have CRS lately.
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Milo spoke for a long time in that turtle video. 100 percent that's a Georgia accent if I ever heard one.
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She posted another video today where she's talking a lot:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bja4h1kAbol/
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Wasn’t one of TFW’s previous lawsuits against Jon dismissed with prejudice or something like that?
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That was the one against both Hoffman and Jon. That's also the one where the lawyer couldn't find the courthouse.
It's interesting, TLC has not been doing much on the K+8 FB page. They posted on her b'day, then the announcement of the new show back in early April, and the only thing since then is one of those random TLCme videos that has nothing to do with K8 and which they post on a bunch of the pages they run. I'm wondering. . . .
Maybe she’s suing him for lost wages because TLC has decided against the dating show. Wishful thinking on my part.
KIAT (#72), good to see you.
Gladys is nothing if not reliable. She throws aside her #FamilyLove treacle in a heartbeat for the opportunity to bash the G kids'
father. All in the name of blowing smoke up TFW's skirt. Like her idol, it annoys Gladys that Jon hasn't been edited out of this story. His presence really screws up TFW's struggling single mom narrative.
I cannot fathom how she has made this divorce fester for 9 years. Her kids must be miserable being around this chaos. In 4 years all the kids will be of legal age and then they can sue her for their money if any is left. This is like the never ending story. I feel badly for the kids and Jon.
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NJGal51 said... 81
Wasn’t one of TFW’s previous lawsuits against Jon dismissed with prejudice or something like that?
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That was the one against both Hoffman and Jon. That's also the one where the lawyer couldn't find the courthouse.
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lol! Filing a lawsuit has always been what Kate resorts to when someone/something pisses her off. 'Can we sue?' is her mantra. I wonder if her kids will be suing her someday. Karma never suffers from CRS.
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Maybe she’s suing him for lost wages because TLC has decided against the dating show. Wishful thinking on my part.
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You may be on to something. It may be lost compensation due to jon not letting Hanna film
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I cannot fathom how she has made this divorce fester for 9 years. Her kids must be miserable being around this chaos. In 4 years all the kids will be of legal age and then they can sue her for their money if any is left. This is like the never ending story. I feel badly for the kids and Jon.
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I think she keeps going back to this narrative because that’s when she had the most fame.
If you think about it, she’s always relied on others to give her things: money, childcare, gifts, fame. She’s never achieved it on her own. A few months ago I went back and read that Vanity Fair article at the height of all the hoopla (2009 I think). The reporter asked a pap why they were covering Kate, and the pap said because she was a big story right now. Kate asked the reporter what the pap said, and she scoffed and said “right now” incredulous.
It was also interesting because she had tlc pr there, Steve there, other handlers, etc. She even had a personal shopper escort her around fao Schwartz.
She’s just so f’ing lazy!
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LOL AuntieAnn! LOVE IT!
Are we talking about the kids filming for more K+8 or for the dating show?
The lost wages theory makes more sense to me. Though that would probably be filed in regular civil court which means maybe the docs might be much easier to find? 100k sounds about right for a couple episodes. But can you imagine peddling that one to a judge? I lost all this money because my CHILD won’t work? You’d be sent packing so fast. Darn I wish we could find these docs!
Admin (#89), and how about crying poverty when you've got a perfectly good nursing degree and haven't had a nursing job in a decade? That old "I'd blow my entire salary on childcare" excuse is no longer viable...not that it ever was.
Remember there was a somewhat vague announcement from tlc some months back they were still going to film the family? I don’t think that has happened yet and then it morphed into this dating show announcement. I do think there is a lot of evidence something went wrong with “regular” filming. She was able to milk out the dating show out of this but I bet that’s a lot less dough because it’s mostly her and not 8 other people to pay too.
And yeah these kids will wise up and sue for their lost wages soon enough. They have proof tlc admitted they didn’t pay them correctly at first. What goes around.
Was Jon required to contribute to paying for their education, or did that come out of the allowed expense money set up for them? The amount for which she's asking is in line with tuition, books and supplies. I wonder if she blew through that already.
The timing would be right. Tuition for the coming year is due in April, depending on what plan she is on.
The timing would be right. Tuition for the coming year is due in April, depending on what plan she is on.
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And the thing is, if she can't afford it, send the kids to public school. People have to make hard choices all the time in regards to finances. And kids will adjust - we had to change schools this year due to a change in the district, and the kids adapted very easily. It's not like she needs the money for insulin for her kids - sending her kids there is a lifestyle choice. If she she can't afford it due to a change in lifestyle, then that's life.
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NJGal, oh good, that was a wink at you. I had to google CRS after you said you had it. ha!
But can you imagine peddling that one to a judge? I lost all this money because my CHILD won’t work? You’d be sent packing so fast. Darn I wish we could find these docs!
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Wasn't that part of the original agreement way back when...that if any of the family didn't want to be filmed anymore, then the deal with TLC was over? Or was Schmoops lying about that, too?
If you were a PhD candidate in Abnormal Psychology you could defend your dissertation on Ms. Katie Kreider Gosselin.
And the thing is, if she can't afford it, send the kids to public school. People have to make hard choices all the time in regards to finances.
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Right? Boo freaking hoo. She could easily cut thousands and thousands of dollars off her monthly expenses. Like you said families do this all the time, this is life. She still hasn’t learned your school, your house, all the material things just don’t matter.
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Kate just posted that picture with Jamie and a comment about work being fun with Jamie there, so I think they were off filming the craptastic dating show. She filed the lawsuit in March. Still, I agree--you're onto something. It's probably something to do with filming or Jon preventing filming. Filming is all that matters to her, and she'd definitely go after him if he got in the way. I don't know that she has the stamina for a real lawsuit. This could be a long, drawn-out, complicated process. Once Jon and Robert fought back in the last lawsuit, she backed off fast. Jon has already filed a motion to dismiss. He's not going to make it easy for her. She could end up losing, and being stuck with a big legal bill. She could also get stuck paying Jon's legal fees.
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I thought Jon said the money in the kids' trust was for their education--both private school and college. I have to wonder if there's enough money in there to pay for 15-plus years of 6-figure education expenses. I remember reading during the divorce that there was $900,000 in trust for the kids. That is not enough to pay for all that, even with the kids' income from the show. Maybe Kate invested the money well, but that still wouldn't be enough. She would have to be dipping into the principal every year. You can only do that for so long before you run into trouble. Still, Kate has been the one with primary custody, and it is her choice to send the kids to that school. If she has drained the kids' trust, then she needs to take responsibility for it.
My memory is a bit dusty, but I seem to recall that Jon was paying $20k a month in child support, during the time TLC was suing him. He paid that for quite a while.
Another thought- Kate’s always been unlikeable, I recall her neighbors saying Jon was nice but she was a bitch. Kate’s always demanded people help her, but I wonder that when Beth arrived on the scene with her big house, big income, fancy sports car and spa days, I wonder if that’s when Kate decided she needed THAT lifestyle. If Beth had never come along I sometimes wonder where the G family would be today.
Here's hoping the dating show suffers the same fate as the proposed Twist of Kate.
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FlimsyFlamsy (85)
Milo is outraged because Jon destroyed her fantasy of Kate with 8 teenagers under her roof--10 if you count Nookie and Mak. And if Kate is the perfect, loving mother Milo imagines her to be, and Jon the uncaring skirt chaser, then why is Hannah with Jon? And how dare H and Jon visit C (and post pictures so Milo can't deny it)?
I have to say, I'm starting to like Barb. She stood up to Milo, and seems to really care that H is happy.
Old Poster (102)
Yes, Jon was paying $22K per month at first. In 2012, 3 years after the divorce, he was paying $3600. And Kate was claiming that his CS only covered the kids' lunches.
Layla said...
he was paying $3600. And Kate was claiming that his CS only covered the kids' lunches.
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She must have been packing them Beluga caviar on crackers. Even at $10 a kid for 20 lunches at school per month, that would amount to a little over half of $3600. She exaggerates.
The money is the most intriguing part of this saga. If Jon was paying $20K/mth (I thought it was $22K for at least 24 months), was Kate ALSO putting in that amount per month? And wouldn't it have been 50-50? Kate was still filming, after all, and Jon's TV "career," such as it was, rapidly evaporated. I am certain both of them at various times indicated that there was adequate money--"untouchable" is what I recall Jon saying--put away for college for all 8.
So it begs the question: Assuming private school tuition has been around $120-130K/yr for all 8, that should still leave (IF the CS was 50-50) $370K-380K/yr for the first two years for all of K8's other household expenses. Expenses which we know were further offset by all the stuff TLC paid for (5 freezers full of old cheese cubes, anyone?). I wouldn't doubt that K8 socked away a good chunk of Jon's $450K+ against the time when Jon would no longer have that sort of money, so she should have been okay for quite a long time.
I don't know how she thinks she can sue him for something she calls "child support," especially at that level, without her having to come clean about the way she has spent the kids' money over the years, not to mention how much she personally has contributed to their "support." I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that deposition.
Layla (#104), yes, props to Barb for being on Team Kids, and not just Team Shrew.
I find any claim regarding child support by Kate to be disingenuous. The children have been supporting themselves as well as supporting her. As Admin. stated earlier, just imagine telling a judge she wants 'more' from Jon because he is responsible for the children not working to support themselves and her.
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Sad but true (107)
the kids' trust is revocable, so Kate can take the money out if she wants. IIRC, the money could be used for the health and welfare of the kids, which means she could dip into it to pay the mortgage, utilities, groceries, health care, schooling--pretty much anything she could claim was for the kids. The house was supposed to be part of the kids' trust, but Kate put it in her name jointly with the kids' trust and then refinanced it in 2011. She does as she pleases with the kids' money and property. I'm sure when the trust was set up, it was intended (at least by Jon) to pay for the kids' educations. But in Kate's hands, who knows what came out of it? She used the kids to support her lifestyle, and I'm sure she wouldn't hesitate to use the kids' money for the same purpose.
She still hasn’t learned your school, your house, all the material things just don’t matter.
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And her sheeple haven't learned that either. That's been their stupid argument for years.
I hate when parents say that they're trying to provide their kids with the "best of the best", or in Kate's own words a "golden platter". Why do kids need the best? The only thing they need the best of is your time, love , and attention. Everything else is BS.
Layla (#110), when TFW claimed the deck was the single most important thing she'd done for her children's welfare, I assumed that was Katespeak for, she paid for it with their money.
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I find any claim regarding child support by Kate to be disingenuous. The children have been supporting themselves as well as supporting her.
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I totally agree. TFW has not worked at all to support her kids. She sold their childhoods and forced them to work to support themselves and her in the lifestyle she always coveted but could NEVER achieve on her own.
I think TFW must be doing just fine as far as money is concerned. If she has her money and the kids' money invested, it has most likely grown substantially in just the last year, or year and a half, due to market conditions and a huge upswing in the stock market.
Jon's back to posting about his DJ gigs on Instagram. Today, he posted about gigs he has this Friday night and Saturday night. Unlike TFW, he actually works, (two jobs), rather than living off the kids.
I hate when parents say that they're trying to provide their kids with the "best of the best", or in Kate's own words a "golden platter". Why do kids need the best? The only thing they need the best of is your time, love , and attention. Everything else is BS.
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Sociologists at Freakenomics have studied this extensively, like really scientifically. Analyzed, turned over and written about it in books. The biggest, biggest factor in a kid having a stable and good childhood is having good and appropriate parents. It’s not school, teachers, coaches, pastors, friends or others. It’s just good solid parents. Inner city kids come out just fine with great parents. Kate was so busy worrying about everything else she forgot about that and even cut one out.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 116
.....It’s just good solid parents. Inner city kids come out just fine with great parents. Kate was so busy worrying about everything else she forgot about that and even cut one out.
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TFW wasn't busy worrying about anything but her own quest for fame and fortune. And, she didn't forget about anything. She has never put the interests of the kids first. It's always been about her and what she wants. Those kids have never been anything to her other than a tool for her to achieve what she desired (fame and fortune). She was too lazy and untalented to ever achieve either one on her own, so she manipulated a HOM pregnancy.
Layla said... 110
I was under the impression that there may be more than one "trust" (one or more perhaps irrevocable) and that the kids' earnings (in their individual "trust" funds) were what could be drawn against for their expenses. But we'll likely never know.
Seems like the lawsuit would be bad publicity for Kate at this point. Trying to snag a new guy while suing the shirt off the last one?
Didn't Steve figure in those accounts as trustee or something?
"I wonder if that’s when Kate decided she needed THAT lifestyle. If Beth had never come along I sometimes wonder where the G family would be today."
I think Kate always craved wealth and fame. IF not Beth, she would've found some other rich person to latch onto. Kate is good at using people.
I am thrilled Jon has reunited with his son. Times they are a changing. And Hannah, how wonderful. I will do some digging tomorrow.
Poster from long ago. Pennsylvania.
Sad but true (118)
There may have been separate trusts for each child--the document I remember seeing was from Hailey Glassman, who took notes while Jon and Kate were fighting on the phone. She had written down that the kids' trust contained $900,000 plus the house and the blue van, and it also said that Kate had named Steve as trustee. Jon didn't want Steve to be trustee and demanded that he be removed (can't blame Jon for that one!).
Kate and the kids haven't made huge amounts of money for the last 7 years, and considering how expensive the kids' school is, I think Kate has probably been taking money out of their trusts to pay for it. She has not made enough money in all that time to cover living expenses and the kids' school. The stock market has done well for the last couple years, but she may have been borrowing from the principal of their trusts for years before that--especially when they weren't filming. There may not have been a large balance in the accounts, meaning there wouldn't be much interest earned.
That blind item seems pretty credible to me.
I was just at Dunkin' Donuts (it's National Donut Day, and I'm a patriot) and saw a mom with her 2 sons, who looked about 7 and 11. She was so sweet with them. She was patting the younger boy's cheek. Then she threw her arm around the older boy's shoulder, and he leaned into her and put his arm around her waist. They were all excited because they were getting a free donut with each drink purchase.
I watched this group, and thought about TFW and her sons. Did we ever see such warmth, affection and ease between them? The family I saw this morning didn't look like a "golden platter" family. But they looked like they were capable of "making memories" spending only $5 on a special on-the-way-the-way-to-school treat.
I follow Jon on Instagram so his posts with Hannah and Colin are what prompted me to check in here again with this community, it's been years! There is no K8 news ever here in the UK where I currently live. She's non-existent here. Give it a few more years and I think K8 will have alienated most of her kids.
I totally agree. TFW has not worked at all to support her kids.
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She did have a job. Coupon Cabin hired her and we all know how that worked out for her.
Harrisburg Native (#125), welcome back, and I hope you'll stick around!
Hmm, this is interesting. As I posted before, there are a few longtime TFW fans who have been posting comments on Jon's Instagram posts of pics with Hannah. One of them was patriciachow. Interestingly, she posted a comment on Jon's IG post yesterday about his DJ gigs this weekend. TFW isn't going to like how some of her longtime fans appear to be supporting Jon now:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjcqRN2gcwb/
jongosselin1 This weekends line up, Friday June 1st I’m at Woodys in Pottsville, PA and Saturday I’m back at Duffers Mill in Boothwyn, PA. Both 10-2am
patriciachow0901 Knock them dead Jon !
Comment on TFW's latest IG post (the dog pics from last week):
teigan14x Where is Hannah and why is she living with Jon I'm just so curious and where is Colin why dont you start to answer questions and reveal the truth
I wonder if Hannah will be with TFW on the nights Jon works. Would she legally be allowed to stay with his gf? I really wonder if that was a week-long stay with Jon or more permanent? I really hope the latter.No more IG pictures?
Hi all, I also come back to check in every now and then and love the fact that the blog is still going strong! I’m so happy to think that Hannah is with Jon and that they see Collin!
In reference to coupon cabin, I don’t know if anyone watches the real housewives of New York, but the owner of coupon cabin, Scott, is now dating Tinsley Mortimer and has appeared on the show a few times, as well as, them all participating in funny commercials for coupon cabin.
Also. I’m not sure if Bravo and TLC are connected in some way, but In regards to Twist of Kate, there is now a show on bravo with Ryan Serhant, a realtor, from million dollar listing, where he goes to peoples work and helps them learn how to sell. He is very good at it and seems to really care. Seems like the same premise as what Kate was supposed to do with Twist of Kate, but Ryan is a much better pick!
I can’t see this dating show taking off. And who needs their BFF to go on dates with them, and Is it really practical to have to fly to find a man!! I’m sure the line of eligible men will be around the block for a 42 year old, sue happy, shrew!
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/05/jacob-roloff-expelled-highschool-dropped-out/
There's an article about Jacob Roloff from Little People, Big World. It said he has a new book, and he talks of how he was expelled from school.
"Jacob added that he found himself usually “isolated” in high school due to his reality star status, which made it harder for him to attend school"
He doesn't appear on the show anymore but seems to be OK with his family in social media pictures. The twins have children on the show now, one a dwarf. Families might not be as messed up as the Gosselins, but there are consequences for children on reality TV.
"the owner of coupon cabin, Scott, is now dating Tinsley Mortimer"
I don't watch the housewives shows, but a google search showed TM is a fortysomething, blonde reality star. She doesn't have kids. I guess he didn't woo blonde, fortysomething reality star Kate.
In regards to Twist of Kate, there is now a show on bravo with Ryan Serhant, a realtor, from million dollar listing, where he goes to peoples work and helps them learn how to sell. He is very good at it and seems to really care. Seems like the same premise as what Kate was supposed to do with Twist of Kate, but Ryan is a much better pick!
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Bravo should be careful...Kate might try to sue them for stealing 'her' idea. Yeah right. Her head must be ready to explode over the latest Jon/Collin/Hannah reveal and now a show that could have been hers if she'd have actually put some effort into it. Poor thing.
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Formerly Duped said... 130
I wonder if Hannah will be with TFW on the nights Jon works
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If Hannah has to return to the GHFEC when Jon is working his dj job, I feel sorry for her. Narc's are unpredictable. She could treat Hannah like a princess or like dirt for being a traitor. It's like walking into a mine field.
It's so good to see so many former posters checking back in! You've all been missed.
Remember that cockamamie cruise TFW was hustling a few years back?, She would tweet away to her fans like they were her best girlfriends. When one was on the fence about going, TFW responded, "Do it do it do it!"
But now she's pulled another disappearing act, and it seems like fewer and fewer fans care. If she doesn't need them, they don't exist. Not unlike, sadly, her poor son.
Waving.....Hi Auntie, Hi Layla, Hi Veranda Ladies!
patriciachow0901 Knock them dead Jon !
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I remember her. It was unclear on which side of the fence she was. Sometimes she was a fan; other times she would call Kate out on things. She never seemed to hold back and called it like she saw it.
FlimsyFlamsy-she’s NEVER cared about her fans. They are a means to an end, just like her family. Remember at the Grove with her “my favorite Martian” gray striped dress when Steve told her to take a few pictures with her fans and the mic picked up her “this wasn’t part of it” comment while she purses her lips then her plastic fake smike for the cameras? Everyone is a means to her end-fame and tv. Everyone is expendible-including her kids, family and fans. If you can’t help her, you are shunned and sent away.
I'm happy to see some familiar names from the past popping back in too!
jolie Jacquelyn said... 140
I'm happy to see some familiar names from the past popping back in too!
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So am I! I used to comment here years ago, but after it seemed Kate and karma would never get acquainted, only checked in periodically. The current mood here is so much lighter now, now that we have something to celebrate. Proof that Collin is safe, is in touch with his dad, and Hannah constantly seeing Jon (and maybe even living with him) are all HUGE triumphs.
I just checked Instagram and Jon did three posts today. The latest one was about an hour ago, a pic of him and Hannah:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjiiWonAjwR/
jongosselin1 Happy Saturday!!! School is almost over Thank God!!!!
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They both look great, very happy.
Here's Jon's first post of the day, from this morning:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjhjQC3gSOo/
jongosselin1 Starting day off right!!!! Djing today 11-4pm and 10-2am. This won’t be my last cup today!!! Thank you Benchwarmers Coffee and Doughnuts!!!
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It's a pic of a cup of coffee. IG says he posted it from West Reading, PA.
This is his second post of the day, posted seven hours ago from Reading, PA:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bjh4Xgkgm8G/
jongosselin1 Chatty Monks Grand Opening IG their new brewery and first canning!!!! Check it out. Food, drinks, music and prizes. 101 N Carroll Street, Reading. PA
Longtime TFW fans' comments on Jon's IG post of the pic with Hannah today:
mydmaxx2581 Beautiful!
sandiebellz I hope you both are very happy.
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By the way, Hannah hasn't posted that pic, or anything new, on her Instagram.
A&E is going to do a documentary on the Osbourne's reality show. That should be really interesting. That was one of the first really monster-huge hit reality shows that revolved around simply watching a family around their home. Paving the way for shows like Kate's.
The current mood here is so much lighter now, now that we have something to celebrate. Proof that Collin is safe, is in touch with his dad, and Hannah constantly seeing Jon (and maybe even living with him) are all HUGE triumphs.
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As much as I'm enjoying the upbeat tone of the blog, it's still just really tough to know Golly Gee couldn't hang on to see it. She JUST missed this!
I have to hang onto the idea that she can see and know what all is going on from up there and is thrilled.
Admin (#147), I agree that it's bittersweet, knowing Golly Gee isn't here to share our celebration. But, yeah, I hope she "knew" before all of us somehow!
Soon we should be getting TFW's yearly post celebrating the end of the school year. She just LOVES having her kids home! The same kids she was thrilled to be away from for 50% of their childhood, because that's what worked best for her -- um, I mean, them!
Bluebird...I think it was you who who wanted to know what to do on the Cape. If it wasn't you, I apologize and this is for the person who wanted to know. These are just a few things.
In Sandwich, on the upper Cape, there is the Sandwich Glass Museum and Heritage Museum and Gardens. Also the Sandwicn Boardwalk which is presently being repaired after being hammered by all the storms we had this winter.
On the Mid-Cape, in Hyannis you have the JFK Museum; you can do a duck tour in which you tour the sights in downtown Hyannis and on the water in an amphibious vehicle; Cape Cod Beer which is a brewery which gives tours; take a whale watch out of Barnstable Harbor.
On the Outer Cape you have Truro Vineyards which has wine and rum tastings; Cape Cod National Seashore; take a whale watch out of Provincetown.
There are a lot of trails on the Cape to hike or bike and Cape Cod Rail will take you on a scenic tour by train.
My town of Sandwich is the oldest town on Cape Cod and has a lovely historic district. Besides Sandwich, my favorite town is Provincetown. It's the furthest town on the Outer Cape and it's a quaint, little town full of incredible artists. If you get out there, if you can, take a hike up the Pilgrim Monument. The view at the top is spectacular.
This is only a small sample of things to do. If you google things to do on Cape Cod during the summer, it will give you a lot more info.
One thing I will warn you about: if the weather is bad, don't go anywhere near Route 28. You will sit in bumber to bumper traffic and get nowhere.
My favorite beaches are Old Silver in North Falmouth and South Cape in Mashpee. My favorite restaurants are Colombo's in Hyannis and Ocean House in Dennisport.
Hope this helps out a little.
Jon's comment 'Thank God' school is over may mean H will be with him for the summer? Or that he hates meeting TFW at the bus-stop? Idk, but I hope H has a great summer with her dad. Would be nice if the other kids could join them for outings and also Collin. I think Collin would not be given to Jon 24/7 since he works nights but maybe some weekends or day visits? All wishful thinking here.
I think Collin would not be given to Jon 24/7 since he works nights but maybe some weekends or day visits? All wishful thinking here.
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That is no reason not to give a child back to his parent, even a child with special needs.
Almost all parents work these days.
He just needs to work out a plan for Collin when he can't be there. Colleen, relatives, friends, etc. Simple. And Collin may be fine to be left on his own for short periods in the evenings, he's not a toddler. We don't know the extent of his issues or whether he is capable of watching himself from time to time.
Right. I just thought fresh out of lockdown or so it seemed, he would need special supervision of parent or guardian.Not sure of the legalities of Jon's custody and who would be allowed to supervise Collin.Just random thoughts.
My favorite restaurants are Colombo's in Hyannis and Ocean House in Dennisport.
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Don't forget Persy's for breakfast in Hyannis!
Have you tried the Brazilian in Hyannis? Is it still there? I don't think it's as good as other Brazilians that I've been to, in Atlanta, Philly and New York.
Right. I just thought fresh out of lockdown or so it seemed, he would need special supervision of parent or guardian.Not sure of the legalities of Jon's custody and who would be allowed to supervise Collin.Just random thoughts.
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If for some reason he needs full time supervision they’ll work with Jon on ensuring he has a support system to help him. Even in the worst of circumstances none of us in child welfare expect parents to always be there. What is expected is appropriate care is set up when they can’t and that there is consistency. Besides Jon would run himself ragged being on 24/7. It’s normal and expected that when this is necessary parents make sure they have time to do other things like work and rest. They’re no good to the kid if they’re running on empty. I wouldn’t worry about him working. He can do so.
Another thing when kids are transitioned home, it often comes with intensive home services. There is a service that I believe is national called WRAP Around, and it's a team of experts like therapists and social workers who are the home sometimes every single day, sometimes a few days a week, depending on the child's needs. Each WRAP child has a team of people, usually 4-5 people, plus their parents. They help with everything in the home when it comes to transitioning there. It won't just be like Jon gets to pick up Collin and take him home and he's on his own. There will be transitional services to support successful reunification.
Admin (#156), I just imagined TFW reading your brief summation of what C's transition would involve, and her eyes glazing over, and saying, "This wasn't supposed to be part of it." She sent the boy away, and wants him back "fixed," or not at all. She is a horrible mother.
Admin (#156), I just imagined TFW reading your brief summation of what C's transition would involve, and her eyes glazing over, and saying, "This wasn't supposed to be part of it." She sent the boy away, and wants him back "fixed," or not at all. She is a horrible mother.
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This boy will never be back in her care. She does indeed want a replacement product. She sent her defective one back to the manufacturer. It’s not going to work that way, it will be work to have him back home, real work. It will require patience, persistence, understanding and the ability to love your child for him and not what you want him to be. You will have to work with a lot of other people and listen to other opinions and take their recommendations. Jon is the only one capable of this.
“In regards to Twist of Kate, there is now a show on bravo with Ryan Serhant, a realtor, from million dollar listing, where he goes to peoples work and helps them learn how to sell. He is very good at it and seems to really care. Seems like the same premise as what Kate was supposed to do with Twist of Kate, but Ryan is a much better pick!“
Was it ever confirmed anywhere what happened to the Twist of Kate? TFW was in her prime when this show was in its planning stages. And suddenly, Poof, Gone!
Wonder if Kate threw a fit when she realized that she wouldn’t get treated like the Queen that she thinks she is. TLC may have decided that it wasn’t worth the effort.
And remember when Kate tried to pitch a traveling show idea? That would have been all about “ME ME (Oh and the kids) “ traveling the world and getting pampered. Thank god that never materialized.
This is pretty funny. No punches pulled here.
https://maureenparaventi.com/2018/06/02/from-the-mouths-of-idiots/
And remember when Kate tried to pitch a traveling show idea? That would have been all about “ME ME (Oh and the kids) “ traveling the world and getting pampered. Thank god that never materialized.
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Remember the clothes line that got dumped overseas somewhere? Was there ever an explanation for that?
What a great close-up photo of Jon and Hannah. She has his nose and his eyes! Such a pretty girl.
Kate was also in the running for a talk show with Paula deen,if I recall correctly.i guess that went by the wayside too
If anyone is looking for a British detective show to binge on, I can recommend SCOTT & BAILEY on Netflix. I’ve just watched the first 3 episodes of the first season & I’m loving it. There are 5 seasons listed, so I know what l’ll be doing for the next while!
PA Dutch Mom...yes the Brazilian Restaurant is still there. I've never been. I've heard it is good but a lot of food. There is a fairly new Peruvian restaurant called Tumi we went to once that was very good. Lots of restaurant choices to choose from all over the Cape.
Twist of Kate was shelved after some filming that showed kart to be an abysmal flop at "acting"... locals in the restaurants said she was painful to watch. We know that to be true! And the Paula Deen show filming was auditions with different folks to see who would be the best fit. Local chatter atbthe time said she again was unable to even carry on a conversation and somewhere I read kart spent time trying to impress Paula sons. Like her or not, Paula was not going to put up with any nonsense that kart was peddling that might make her show have low ratings. IIRC, kart shared that she was actually doing the show with Paula and did not say it was an audition with several other contenders being screen ed for best onscreen chemistry.
I think shows will film scenes and then discard if not viable .... wonder how much film of kart is on cutting room floors, unusable.....
Maybe they showed Twist Of K8 to a target audience and it bombed which is why it never saw the light of day. I know that Bally’s and the MGM Grand have special screening areas where they pay people to watch new shows and give their opinions. They only take people between that age demographic that the sponsors want to sell to. They seem to want the 18-45 age group. I don’t know why they don’t take those of us that are a few years above because, realistically, we’re probably spending more money on sponsors products than some of the younger folks (I did say this same thing to the people at Bally’s when they wouldn’t let us review new shows because we’re the ancient age group of 55-60 and we didn’t even want the money, we just wanted to see what new shows were being pitched. OK, rant over). I’m sure they do this in other cities besides Las Vegas.
This is pretty funny. No punches pulled here.
https://maureenparaventi.com/2018/06/02/from-the-mouths-of-idiots/
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This is pretty funny. No punches pulled here.
https://maureenparaventi.com/2018/06/02/from-the-mouths-of-idiots/
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Thanks for the link. Here it is:
https://maureenparaventi.com/2018/06/02/from-the-mouths-of-idiots/
From the mouths of idiots…
Posted on June 2, 2018
Fame whore Kate Gosselin has repeatedly used her eight kids to pitch reality TV series to the TLC network (which always seems to bite). With her kids overexposed, the reality TV “star” has turned her attention back to her favorite subject: herself. Her latest bid to both stay in the spotlight and avoid getting a real job is Kate Plus Date, a show based on the divorced Gosselin’s decision to start dating again. I already pity the men who’ll be put through the wringer for this latest exercise in narcissism.
The show derives from Gosselin’s conviction that it would be awful to be an old maid.
In a gushing article on People.com, the divorced, 43-year-old talks about her dread of ending up unmarried.
“I started picturing myself sitting in a rocking chair, knitting, and words like ‘old maid’ and ‘spinster’ started to come to mind, and I realized that no, I don’t want that to be my fate,” she said.
Yes, she certainly has an accurate picture of us old maids and spinsters. We do spend most of our time sitting in rocking chairs and knitting. After all, we have no husbands, so what else can we do with our time?
Gosselin blames her kids for her concerns about being single. Because they’re all getting older, with two about to leave for college, “it almost became like a worry for them, too, like ‘Mommy, you’re gonna be all alone soon,’” she told People. Gosselin deduced from the fact that some of her offspring are dating that they are ALL going to get married someday. “It became apparent: they want someone for me. They want me to have somebody in my life.”
Kate Plus Date, which will air on TLC this fall. I can only imagine the dreadful reality TV shows to follow: Kate Gets Married (in a spectacle that will rival Harry and Meghan’s recent nuptials). Kate Gets Divorced…Again. Kate Becomes a Grandmother. Kate Goes through Menopause. Kate…
Hannah just posted another picture on IG of her and Jon. Huge smiles all around (again).
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Hannah just posted another picture on IG of her and Jon. Huge smiles all around (again).
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Thanks. Here it is:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjlNsaPncBm/?taken-by=itsmehjg
itsmehjg Why can’t it just be warm ☀️
Damn. I keep seeing people making comments on Jon's IG, and now Hannah's IG, that Jon and the kids should be on reality TV. FFS, give it a rest people. These kids deserve to finally be left alone. Haven't they seen enough of these kids??
itskatelynn_not_katielynn @tlc give Jon and Hannah a show���� I miss seeing him on tv being the loving father he is!
Another comment from longtime TFW fan left on Jon's IG post the pic with Hannah on Saturday:
patriciachow0901 Jon, Hannah & Collin, have a great summer, Wishing you the best! ♡♡♡
Hmmm, what is this? Remember a few days ago we saw that Milo posted a comment to TFW on her own (Milo's) IG post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjQu_y0A7f2/?taken-by=miloandjack2016
miloandjack2016 Buckle up Mom...more new pics of your son posted on IG! Surprised to hear he went shopping. Many take this as a sign he will be coming home soon?? @Kateplusmy8
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Well, now Milo has posted a second comment there:
miloandjack2016 Hey...new email about end of yr...Busted! 😋 @kateplusmy8
Today was the San Diego Marathon and I didn't hear any comments or see video shots from the local stations about TFW attending. I'm sure her friend The Hispanic Elvis, I think he was called, missed her.
Former Lurker (173)
I get the feeling Milo has appointed herself the position of Chief Tattler, trolling Jon's and Hannah's IG so she can run to Kate when something new shows up. Let's see, Jon mentioned the end of school, so Milo thinks she caught him discussing summer custody and violating a court order against discussing custody arrangements. Even though, of course, he said no such thing--Milo's just a little too over-eager and seeing things that aren't there. She must be bouncing off the walls in sheer excitement over the pat on the head she'll expect from Kate.
Cara seems to follow Hannah and Jon’s instagrams. Maybe seeing Jon be the hero in Hannah and Collin’s lives will thaw her relationship with her Dad.
Nanb
Capecodmama thanks for the suggestions. The JFK Museum, duck tour, whale watching an Pilgrim Monument sounds like a plan. I'm not too keen on beer, but the vineyards are a must. I'll also try one of the 2 restaurants you mentioned, I'm sure the seafood will be fantastic. I'm keeping my fingers crossed hoping for nice weather. Thanks again!
Is that the real Cara IG? I can never tell..and did Hannah delete some photos?
Nanb (#176), I hope your prediction is true...that C can be positively influenced by her siblings' contact with their dad. Sadly, I fear M may never be able to disconnect from her mother's influence. I wouldn't be surprised if a car is being dangled as a high school graduation gift next year, as a means of keeping M on Team Shrew.
Former Lurker (173)
I get the feeling Milo has appointed herself the position of Chief Tattler, trolling Jon's and Hannah's IG so she can run to Kate when something new shows up.
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It's ridiculous to think Kate doesn't know what is going on. Surely Kate notices Hannah is NOT LIVING WITH HER. Come on Milo.
Also, Kate becomes enraged. Does it occur to Milo that tattling to her could enrage her, causing her to lash out at others, even her own kids still around?
Milo does NOT care about the kids. One bit.
About Gladys. There is no way to rein her in. I'm surprised that none of the sheeple has told her to zip it. She's out of control and has to be one of dumbest fans that Kate ever had. What a moron.
I'd love to see Kate go off on her.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 149
Soon we should be getting TFW's yearly post celebrating the end of the school year. She just LOVES having her kids home! The same kids she was thrilled to be away from for 50% of their childhood, because that's what worked best for her -- um, I mean, them!
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Yes, her annual phony school's out for summer post should be any day now. Last year, she posted this video of the two (remaining) boys riding a go-kart on June 5th:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU-PJlNgzvt/
kateplusmy8 It's SUMMERTIME and the fun has just begun! #Sun #Fun #SleepingIn #NoHomework #NewSetOfWheels #BoysWillBeBoys 🏎🌞🏎🌞🏎🌞🏎🌞
Admin (181)
The sheeple have always considered the kids to be Kate's possessions. For so many years they have said that she can do as she pleases with HER kids. There's no understanding there of the fact that the kids are humans, individuals, and that Kate's choices could have a negative impact on their lives. It's like they're lifeless toys that belong to Kate and she can do what she wants with them and refuse to share them with Jon. But they are growing up so fast, and the negative effects of Kate's choices will become more and more evident with time. Some will leave home and never come back. Some will have emotional problems. Some will speak out. They aren't toys, she can't just set them on a shelf and forget them when she's done using them.
Bluebird...You're welcome. I hope you enjoy your visit. I don't drink beer but my husband does enjoy the brewery. The vineyard wine is very good. The last time we were there they were just getting into making rum so if you go you'll be able to have rum tastings as well as the wine. The Ocean House restaurant is right on the water so not only is the food good but the view is outstanding.
For so many years they have said that she can do as she pleases with HER kids. There's no understanding there of the fact that the kids are humans, individuals, and that Kate's choices could have a negative impact on their lives. It's like they're lifeless toys that belong to Kate and she can do what she wants with them and refuse to share them with Jon.
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Yes. It's almost like they're fighting over the house in a divorce, instead of the children. Human beings, with feelings.
Anonymous (176) and Formerly Duped (179), not Cara's real Instagram account, but I too hope she will eventually be close to her dad again. Hopefully in time...
Note to Kate: An old maid is a woman who has never married. A spinster is a woman who has never married.
You are a divorcee!
Clare in Nebraska said... 188
Note to Kate: An old maid is a woman who has never married. A spinster is a woman who has never married.
You are a divorcee!
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True, but calling herself a divorcee would mean that TFW would have to acknowledge that Jon exists. In her mind, it's "Jon who?"
Note to Kate: An old maid is a woman who has never married. A spinster is a woman who has never married.
You are a divorcee!
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True, but calling herself a divorcee would mean that TFW would have to acknowledge that Jon exists. In her mind, it's "Jon who?"
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People, she is none of those. She is a widow!
People, she is none of those. She is a widow!
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With eight - count 'em eight - legs and a red hourglass on her belly.
I worry about Hanna when she is at school. There is probably a divide between her and her siblings. This divide probably extends to her peers including mutual friends she has with her siblings. I hope she has a support system in place to help her deal with this.
Andrea
Admin (#190), you beat me to it! The Former Wife, widow of Jon Gosselin. Remember, she was incensed that he would have the slightest say over what happened with HER children. He's dead to her.
Late is not a spinster. Spinsters earned their independence by spinning fiber into thread/yarn. They were independent self supporting women. TFW can not support herself. She needs TV, her kids exc.
Andrea
Thanks Capecodmama, I'm not into rum, but will certainly try the Ocean House.
Does anyone have suggestions regarding Boston?
Andrea, I also worry about Hannah. Not only does she have to answer questions from her siblings regarding her visits with Collin but she also has to deal with Kate when she visits her. Kate probably asks her a million questions and Hannah must be torn between the two, not wanting to hurt either parent. What a burden to put on a child!
Anonymous said... 192
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Andrea, the IG photos seem to indicate that Hannah is a popular girl with her own 'squad' apart from A and L. I was surprised L was not in it. She is also class President. I worry more about the other two, but so much depends on the cliques in the school and even the opinion of parents but as locals have mentioned, TFW is not really of interest to many.I also worry about how H is treated at 'home' and what her siblings are forced to do to her.I also hope school guidance counselor or the like can give them all a place to turn to fro support
I agree, H appears to have lots of friends, judging by her IG photos. She is class president. She seems to be very happy with her dad. There are several photos posted by her and Jon of the two of them out in public places. Kate is the one who always seemed to isolate the kids, and that is disturbing. We all knew something was up when Jon posted photos of himself and Hannah at a Super Bowl party, while Kate posted a photo of her sad little SB spread in her basement. No way would Kate allow Hannah to go out and celebrate with other people if she had some say about it.
Hannah seems like a strong-minded girl. Kate couldn't beat her down last summer when H started to stand her ground about staying with her father, and that must have been a horrible time for H. But H prevailed. She looks genuinely happy with Jon, and so does Collin. When is the last time we saw C look as happy as he does in the photos with Jon and Hannah? I worry more about the kids who are still with Kate.
Layla (#198), M and C will be graduating from high school in a year. What is ordinarily a happy family time will be tainted by TFW's failure to co-parent. Will Jon be allowed to attend? If so, will he be seated far from his other children? If he indeed has custody of H, how awkward will that be for her?
For all her blather about "making memories," TFW never seems to understand that BAD memories can be just as powerful for children as good ones, if not moreso.
FlimsyFlamsy said...
What is ordinarily a happy family time will be tainted by TFW's failure to co-parent. Will Jon be allowed to attend?
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He'd damn well better be allowed. That shrew has no right to keep him away from there, or weddings, or funerals. (Or her own garage sales for that matter)
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