https://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Jon-Gosselin-Slams-Kate-132K-lawsuit-docs-1.pdf
According to Jon's lawyers, Kate has been unable to produce the actual documents of the alleged agreement. She is however asking Jon to pay up now that he has asked for custody.
Jon's lawyers are asking the bill nonetheless be reduced to zero, arguing that the 2012 agreement would be prohibited by law, is vague, has not even been produced to review, is against public policy and not in the children's best interest.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 823 Newer› Newest»Yea, but we’ve heard it from one of the twins in the past. If they aren’t filming, they are at home staring at the four walls.
Interesting article in the Daily Mail re: Michael Peterson case:
"Michael Peterson, 74, believes he was able to get his conviction for murdering his wife overturned with help of Netflix true crime docu-series, The Staircase
His wife Kathleen, 47, was found slumped and bloodied at the bottom of a staircase in the family home in Durham, North Carolina
Filmmakers have admitted that the editor of the series, Sophie Brunet, had a 15-year-long affair with accused killer Peterson
Speaking to DailyMail.com, he denies there was bias in the edits, but admits the show 'was a very powerful instrument in my conviction being overturned'
According to the show, Kathleen's autopsy found seven lacerations on her scalp, sustained by falling, when attempting to get up but slipping on her own blood
But the report, viewed by DailyMail.com, actually details 35 separate bruises, and wounds described by the examiner as consistent with a severe beating
The documentary makes no mention of the fact that her time of death was estimated to be a full three hours before Peterson called 911"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5884153/Michael-Peterson-believes-Netflixs-Staircase-helped-overturn-murder-conviction.html
Obviously Hannah appears to have a much more normal childhood now because she's with Jon. The concern was always the kids with Kate and their ability to have normal social experiences with Kate, based on their and Kate's own comments and the video evidence.
The evidence is all there. It's kind of funny there's not a shred of evidence these kids have these kind of normal experiences with Kate, yet plenty that they do with Jon. If it looks like a duck...
As far as kids who have fond memories of "doing nothing" all summer, as frankly, I do, when you think about it, you're not REALLY doing nothing. Fishing, long quiet walks in the woods, swimming, having friends over, going out for icecream after dinner, bonfires with grandparents, VBS, picking berries and making jam, bike riding, diving into a great book under a tree, doing art projects, practicing piano, is not REALLY nothing. But we tend to frame it that way, don't we? There's doing nothing and then there's doing "nothing." It's two very different things.
I do not believe, based on the mountain of evidence, Kate is providing enough of the normal childhood experiences that these children need.
The picture of the kids sitting outside and the "doing NOTHING" comment are on Kate's IG. I was quoting her (including all-caps) directly. At the time she posted it, we discussed it and all agreed that if they are not filming, it doesn't mean they're doing nothing. That's just how Kate sees it.
capecodmama said... 181
Where the heck is Tucker's Mom? Does anyone know?
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I've been wondering the same thing. Hope everything is okay with her.
Probably several of us have noticed Tucker's Mom has been missing. I certainly hope she is just too busy and taking a break.
Maybe Tucker's Mom is on vacation. I hope that's what it is.
One of my sons just walked in and announced that he had to leave work early because there was an active shooter situation right down the road. Turned on the news and there was a mass shooting at the Annapolis Gazette. This one is too close to home.
Me too. I think Tucker's Mom had a little break before.Hope it's just that she is busy enjoying summer.
"Doing nothing" means she's not filming. The only thing important to her is filming; everything else, including spending some quality time with and listening to her children represents "nothing worthwhile" to her. What normal loving mothers consider to be of utmost importance, would be a "waste of time" to her.
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Old poster said... 196
Since Hannah has been quite upfront about her living situations, I imagine she’s Toxic as well. .
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Yeah she might be Hannah Who? by now for all we know.
I won't hold my breath waiting for an exclusive interview with Natalie Morales to see Schmoopy dab her eyes and sob "Hannah betrayed me" either. I don't think there are too many reporters scrambling over each other to have a conversation with TFW anyway. She's toast.
Feel the burn, Kate.
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Hope all is well with Tucker's, too.
Add my name to the posters missing Tucker's Mom. I hope it's just that she's busy with summer plans.
Gigi, thanks for the additional info! That's a different live feed that the cooking one I watched, so I'm glad you caught this one. I think it's so great for Hannah that she's finally able to communicate with the public like this away from her mother's intense control.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 193
Emily (#171), thanks again for keeping us in the loop on H's post.
Well, well, well...so H just casually, matter-of-factly mentioned K+8 isn't coming back? No tears? No groans of disappointment? No mention of missing crew daddies? No heartache about not being able to share her childhood on film with the fans to whom those kids mean so much?
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Hah... I thought the same thing! I wish the video had been saved so everyone could have heard her tone, like an off-hand comment. It was the same tone of voice you'd use to talk about the weather.
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Yea, but we’ve heard it from one of the twins in the past. If they aren’t filming, they are at home staring at the four walls.
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Yes, Mady said that in the original "series finale". I honestly believe that show exactly how much Kate had brainwashed the children so that they not oppose filming: "if we don't film we can't do anything and travel, do you wanna be at home staring at the walls Mady? No? Then get out here and allow the camera in you room." Also Mady says something like they'd have nothing without filming which again strikes me as something an adult told a 9-10 year old not something she came up with.
I too think it's unlikely the kids actually go nowhere and have zero friends, especially at this age. I have little doubt that Kate isn't splurging on expensive vacations without TLC because I've seen the difference in filmed/non filmed b-day parties and also on years they didn't film they didn't go to their "traditional spot" Bald Head Islands. This however doesn't mean they go absolutely nowhere or do nothing, imho.
I don't much want to weigh in on the actual thread title because I've expressed my opinion in the past and it hasn't changed. I'm happy Jon is finally doing what he should have done years ago though, I do give him credit for that and hope he doesn't stop here.
The concern was always the kids with Kate and their ability to have normal social experiences with Kate, based on their and Kate's own comments and the video evidence.
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Remember when she claimed filming gives them opportunities and the kids are not negatively impacted but then with her own mouth Kate explained she had to drag the children in a hurry from gift shop in New York and from the Grand Canyon because people were crowding them and also because of that she didn't let the kids play on that climbing wall (wherever that was) even though you could tell the poor kids were dying to play there? God Kate really did want it both ways didn't she?
Remember when Mady said "no fun things' when TFW was announcing TLC's plans for spring break? TFW was furious and took her phone away. Was it that Mady thought the plans would not be fun or she'd rather really have a break and stare at the walls and relax? She also said once she sat in her bed all day. Maybe more kids than H will be happy there is no more K+8. Mady is a hard girl to figure out.
I don’t see Kate taking the kids anywhere on vacation.
Mady and Cara most likely wouldn’t go. Collin and Hannah no longer live with her. So basically she has 4 of the younger kids left.
I really hope at this age they aren’t just at home playing Life and swimming in their pool. I really hope they have friends they go places with, but I can’t imagine Kate allowing them to go anywhere with their friends without her tagging along. And I can’t imagine her wanting to tag along. I hope they at least get a few days at the beach.
There also don’t seem to be any “sightings” of Kate or the kids mentioned on Twitter.
I’m hoping Hannah’s new life as a normal person inspires the other kids to want the things Hannah has... a great relationship with their dad, fun summer days of ice cream runs, and day trips, normal vacations, and spending time with family and friends. All with no camera crew filming them.
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Hannah did another live Instagram last night. It must have been a sleepover because there were a couple other girls there. I didn’t see or hear much of it. She showed some new cloths off. One question was “do you want to be on tv again” and she answered “no”. There was also some stuff about college and living in PA. The camera kept freezing and the audio wasn’t too good so I gave up.
I don’t see Kate taking the kids anywhere on vacation.
Mady and Cara most likely wouldn’t go. Collin and Hannah no longer live with her. So basically she has 4 of the younger kids left.
I really hope at this age they aren’t just at home playing Life and swimming in their pool. I really hope they have friends they go places with, but I can’t imagine Kate allowing them to go anywhere with their friends without her tagging along. And I can’t imagine her wanting to tag along. I hope they at least get a few days at the beach.
There also don’t seem to be any “sightings” of Kate or the kids mentioned on Twitter.
I’m hoping Hannah’s new life as a normal person inspires the other kids to want the things Hannah has... a great relationship with their dad, fun summer days of ice cream runs, and day trips, normal vacations, and spending time with family and friends. All with no camera crew filming them.
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CC, it's always nice to see you posting. Don't worry about the posting glitches...remember, everything is Jon's fault!
NJGal51 (#18), so H said NO to wanting to be on TV? Mommie Dearest must be livid. She was in charge, but, alas, it DID change.
I can't imagine the mood at TGHEC. That woman has shown a raging temper with cameras rolling and a houseful of crew members. Her anger must cast a pall over the entire family. I hope the kids are able to have lots of activities with friends, and eventually, dare I hope, with their father.
Hannah did a live stream last night. She seems very comfortable with doing them. 2 Friends over, I did not see Jon. She mentioned she was staying in Pennsylvania w her dad and audio was bad going to penn state-I think. Someone asked were the twins were going and she said she doesn’t know, they didn’t talk to her. Someone said what siblings talk to you and she looked off, paused and said the boys do. There was a look of pain. Then more I couldn’t understand. Someone asked do you spend any time w your mom and H said no. No. Second no was not rude but it was just emphasized. People were asking more questions than she answered about Jon getting more custody and she left those. Someone said why did you stay w your mom so long and H said it was a law thing. Are you staying at your school yes. I love my school. Is Collin going to live w you and your dad soon? Yes. Best news ever! (My words) I got interrupted and missed same, came back to them laughing at an inside joke and H said not looking in the camera, I can’t believe I’ve never had a sleep over w you guys! You’re crazy! This is a h we have not seen and this bitter hearted busy was tearing up. I set up my phone to notify when she goes live.
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Is Gladys still among the missing?
We have a range of opinions about whether or not the G kids have had "normal" relationships and activities away from home. But what I think cannot be disputed is that 10 years of a rigorous filming schedule has significantly limited the opportunities they've had for such a lifestyle.
Let's say one of the G boys' best friends was having a laser tag birthday party on a Saturday, and he couldn't wait to go. But that Saturday all the kids had to spend the day filming at Party City. No giant deal, right? But multiply that by 8 kids, and maybe 30 weekends out of the year, times a decade. At that point, maybe friends stopped asking the G kids to participate in activities, because they usually said no. And maybe the G kids themselves resisted getting close to other kids, knowing the limitations of their friendships.
Thanks older poster. That's great news for Collin!! I know he and H didn't get along before but their mother may have been a factor.How sad the twins and the other girl tups don't talk to her- perhaps the younger girls feel abandoned but H stuck to her guns. This is great news that she is with Jon but yes, bittersweet when it comes to some of the other kids.
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So sad that only the boys talk to Hannah. I'm sure Kate has told them (once again) to shun H, but the boys just seem so kind, I bet they couldn't bring themselves to do that. If the show isn't coming back, Kate would of course tell them all that it's all H's fault and she ruined it for all of them, which may cause some resentment. Not over filming, since some of them obviously don't care for it, but the lack of travel and activities. Last time the show was cancelled, Kate claimed that the kids were worried about whether they could stay in their house and their school. Of course she would use the same fears this time--"We may end up losing our house and you might have to go to public school, all because of Hannah!". What Kate's really worried about is the possibility of having to get a real job. Her worst nightmare.
We were wondering about her saying she still sees her mom. Does she visit or maybe just "see" her at the bus stop? But this time she said she does not spend time with her. So there's our answer. Sounds like she sees her in passing--at the bus stop or elsewhere--but does not spend time with her. That is so sad. Kate should set her own bitterness aside for the sake of all the kids, but of course she doesn't.
So happy Collin will be with Jon and Hannah! That is truly the best place for him, a loving home where he is accepted and encouraged. If what we saw on film was any indication, C's life with Kate was pretty ugly.
Looks like I assumed correctly that Hannah has been shunned from the females in Kate’s household. I guess Hannah can talk to the brothers since Kate doesn’t care less about them!
Kate’s ability to remove people in her life is astounding. As she’s said in the past, you’re either with her or against her-there is no middle ground. I’d go as far to say as she has no contact with Colin as well.
Kate’s brainwashed her kids about how relationships function— and now since she’s isolated the kids from all familial relationships they now turn on each other.
Kate’s in for a shock— well she’s had one already. Hannah left HER.
How’s it feel, Kate? And Colin gone, too.
Can she erase old tape and say she had quads?
Gladys still silent?
I’d say now that Hannah is now talking, most of Kate’s fans will simply disappear never to be heard from again.they have nothing to defend.
Even a pro-Kate site has fallen silent.
Older poster (22) ...Is Collin going to live w you and your dad soon? Yes.
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Wow! Well now, in that one affirmative answer from Hannah, about twenty other questions are answered along with it. That miserable Kate withheld Collin's whereabouts to have the upper hand on Jon. She may as well have had him tied up in the basement. He was a hostage in her SICK game. She knew damn well that if Jon could find him, he'd get him out of wherever he is and go for custody of him and that is and always has been her biggest fear. She wants complete and total control over all the kids. She's in charge? Nope. Not no more. Hannah's defection has proven her wrong and I hope more of the G kids follow her lead.
Maybe Collin could have been released earlier if Jon had known where he was. This is so sad. What an incredible story
I feel sad Leah and Hannah don't speak if that's the case. Those two were thick as thieves.
It sure looks like the twins have learned to banish people from their lives--Kate taught them well. First they refused to see Jon, then gave a nasty interview to People about it, calling it a "toxic" relationship. Who does that? Why not just keep quiet about it? I do not believe for a moment that they asked to do that interview. That was all Kate. But now, the twins have cut off Hannah, and it's a no-brainer that Collin no longer exists (to them). As they go through life, banishing anyone who doesn't do exactly as they expect is not going to work well for them.
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Re: Hannah showing off new clothes--I'm sure Kate didn't let her take any of her clothes with her, so she has to get everything new. Jon has said before that Kate wouldn't let the kids take anything to his house when they visited, so he had to have separate sets of everything for them at his house. She's that vindictive. She would never let H take her things when she moved in with Jon.
Auntie said, "...Wow! Well now, in that one affirmative answer from Hannah, about twenty other questions are answered along with it."
Hannah is dropping breadcrumbs for us to follow.
With no filming to be done, and the kids are totally useless to her right now, I'm surprised she doesn't just unload them all on Jon. What would be the purpose of keeping them all at home with her?
I'm happy to hear the two boys have contact with Hannah and, hopefully through her, they have contact with their brother Collin.
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I can’t even imagine the effect this is having on kate...she must be losing her mind...this whole persona has exploded in her face and she will have no trouble alienating any of her kids just like she’s doing to Hannah...although Hannah doesn’t seem to give a shit..this is Kate’s MO...go against me and you’re done... even my own children ...what made you think she would stop at relatives....yeah her show is over...amen!
She’ll call me back to Instagram and act like nothing when she calms herself from the humiliation...can’t wait to hear how exhausted she is now...the two are grown ass adults and two kids are gone...what’s her angle now
It’s over... she’s not in charge anymore and she knows it! The jig is up ... her dating show will never hit the air...now what?
Wouldn't a social worker force Kate to let h take her belongings? She had a GAL I thought?
With no filming to be done, and the kids are totally useless to her right now, I'm surprised she doesn't just unload them all on Jon. What would be the purpose of keeping them all at home with her?
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I think she’s having them go with Jon one kid at a time, so as not to arouse suspicion. 😂
That photo Kate posted of the 3 tup girls all dressed up before their birthday for a school event...were they all talking then??
She probably burned her clothes....knowing her ...or they went in the dumpster...it must be killing her to see all those smiling pictures of her and Jon.....I wonder what kate would look like if her head blew up
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Hannah is dropping breadcrumbs for us to follow.
Hannah, at 14, is far more tactful and intelligent than Kate. She can drop breadcrumbs and people can figure them out for themselves. Kate isn't smart enough to figure out how to do that, so she always goes too far and shows the world what a b!$ch she really is.
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True, the court/GAL can order Kate to let H take her things, but since when does Kate take orders from anyone? She'd risk violating a court order just to punish Hannah for leaving and to spite Jon. Just think of all the years she has spent teaching those kids that Jon is the enemy, and Hannah--her favorite child--leaves her to be with Jon! She'd feel compelled to get some sort of revenge. As we have seen so many times before, she just can't help herself.
So I guess Milo hasn't been tattling to Kate about the "lies" Hannah has been telling. lol It's great about Collin and the brothers but sad about the sisters. It just makes me so mad how Kate has messed everything up out of selfishness and greed. I wish Hannah and Collin could sue TLC, Kate, Skeeve, and anybody else who enabled this nightmare.
and she will have no trouble alienating any of her kids just like she’s doing to Hannah.
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Hannah didn't seem to specify who is alienating who, I wouldn't be at ALL surprised if Kate is the one who is not speaking to her.
Whichever it is, we called this one backwards and forwards. Teach a child that the way to deal with people who have conflict with is to cut them off, and that's what the child will learn. And someday when that child invariably has conflict with YOU, YOU could end up alienated. She's so dumb.
14 is way, way too young to be cut off from your mother. It's a tragedy as much as them be cut off from Jon. It's the other side of the coin. There is still time for therapy, for reconciliation. Kate may be one of those mothers that many kids can only deal with by alienating them, but you're really too young to make that decision at 14. Most "healthy" alienations if you can call them that don't happen until the child is well in their 20s and knows what they're doing. Hannah doesn't know what she's doing yet, she can't, she's too young. What a sad story.
With no filming to be done, and the kids are totally useless to her right now, I'm surprised she doesn't just unload them all on Jon. What would be the purpose of keeping them all at home with her?
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She’s keeping them home with her so she has access to their money to pay the bills.
Maybe the boys are the only to talk with Hannah because they’re the only ones that now vist Jon.
Formerly Duped (37)
True, the court/GAL can order Kate to let H take her things, but since when does Kate take orders from anyone?
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Yes. When it gets too contentious, we back off. We can get the child new things and stuff. It's not worth a huge blowup over material things. It's not worth involving the cops over stuff.
But you can bet your bottom dollar I'm gonna point out to the judge what a bitch the mom was to hang onto the poor kids' stuff, and the psychological damage that does.
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So happy Collin will be with Jon and Hannah! That is truly the best place for him, a loving home where he is accepted and encouraged. If what we saw on film was any indication, C's life with Kate was pretty ugly.
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And this is the proverbial cherry-on-top to the end of K8's TV "career." What a mistake she made with the People cover and all the follow-up interviews, where she smugly proclaimed only SHE knew where Collin was, that not even his FATHER knew or was involved, and of course she was doing it all so he could be "the best he can be." I can only imagine what sort of info Jon is sitting on at the moment with respect to Collin's "issues." But once he is released, I hope, if Collin is willing, all that he suffered with Mommy Dearest will be exposed. Certainly Hannah was aware that he was treated differently/poorly at least three years ago, and she was vocal about it to her father. And I have no doubt all of the other kids are quite aware as well, but unwilling to step forward because of "pain of severity," or however the hell she phrased it when she declared HER room off-limits to them.
What goes around comes around. But that usually applies to adversaries of equal standing---NOT your minor children, Kate. LEARN something, for once in your delusional life. Pack it in, suck it up, and GO AWAY.
On an off topic note, there are many good people in the world. I was going through some old emails in the realitytvkids account and found some from GollyGee from weeks before she died. There was a hospital administrator who was harassing women, and she took it upon herself to go to the board and report it and tracked down that his license was expired, and she was writing to ask some questions as she continued to want to help women hurt by him and others.
Even if you are facing big challenges in life, even confined to a hospital, you can make a difference.
That’s nice to know about GollyGee, she always did want to help others be it the shoe boxes for kids or helping people find money owed to them. She would be so happy to hear about Collin and Hannah.
Waiting to Tucker’s Mom and hoping she only taking a short break.
That’s nice to know about GollyGee, she always did want to help others be it the shoe boxes for kids or helping people find money owed to them. She would be so happy to hear about Collin and Hannah.
Waiting to Tucker’s Mom and hoping she only taking a short break.
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I'm reminded of Michael Landon's simple poem he wrote, read at his funeral:
Remember me with smiles and laughter for that's way I'll remember you all. If you can only remember me with tears then don't remember me at all.
Waiting to Tucker’s Mom and hoping she only taking a short break.
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Waiving.....
A few thoughts
1) Kate will not take the kids on a vacation this summer. She has never done it in the past unless they were filming and TLC foot the bill.
2) I wonder if H’s golden child behaviors were a learned behavior that kept her safe from Kate’s
anger. I don’t mean to say that H is not a good child. She just learned from a early age that she could keep herself and her siblings safer if she made mommy happy.
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Admin @ 47. Tyvvm for sharing that. It touched me in a meaningful way.
I love that verse- Laura Ingalls Wilder wrote it I believe. I feel the same way
And, secrets revealed, it was our own GollyGee who last year managed to get Kate to answer her question about nursing on instagram. Kate never suspected! Also, how does ever other mother who works "have time" for it but Kate doesn't?
Now that it's Kate plus 3/4s of the 8, I wonder if she will go back to nursing now?? .... NAHHHH.
kateplusmy8I already have a job and work more than full time on it.... I'd have no extra time to work a second job😳. Plenty of people who have a degree in one thing end up working in a different field, not just me:)! @monkfish18
chastonnmichelle@kateplusmy8 Do you ever miss being a nurse?
I love that verse- Laura Ingalls Wilder wrote it I believe. I feel the same way
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Michael Landon wrote it for a beautiful but pretty heartbreaking episode starring Patricia Neal who passes away leaving three children behind.
Melissa Gilbert then read the little poem years later at his own funeral. In her book, she said the set was going hog wild for Patricia Neal, and it was the first time somebody got their own special trailer (everybody else had small ones and shared, to promote equality) because she had recently had that stroke and was disabled. Melissa didn't know who Patricia was at her age, so she wasn't as gaa-gaa or nervous. Patricia invited little Melissa in to the trailer lots of times and would mentor her, and gave her comfort about Melissa's own dad who had had a stroke. What a generous woman.
Admin (#54), thanks for the "inside info" about our friend GollyGee. I think of her so often.
So TFW claims she was working more than a full-time job doing the show. But her kids, who had an actual full-time job going to school in addition to being on EVERY episode, were NOT working? She claimed they were only "running in and out of camera range." Got it.
With H's rebellion in full swing, I hope at least one of those 8 Little Faces gets One Big Lawyer and sues the ever-loving snot out of their mother for STEALING their childhood from them.
1) Kate will not take the kids on a vacation this summer. She has never done it in the past unless they were filming and TLC foot the bill.
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I may be wrong, but there was a beach vacation that wasn't filmed. Didn't some suspect that Gladys was somehow involved with that? I remember someone saying that they left the beach umbrella out for her. It wasn't filmed.
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So happy Collin will be with Jon and Hannah!
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When did this happen, or is supposed to happen? I am behind in my reading!
rainbows (57): "I may be wrong, but there was a beach vacation that wasn't filmed. Didn't some suspect that Gladys was somehow involved with that? I remember someone saying that they left the beach umbrella out for her. It wasn't filmed."
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I think there was also a time when she took them out west somewhere, maybe to a ranch and it wasn't filmed. There was a dude ranch episode filmed, but this was another vacation.
Rainbowsandunicorns said... 57
Yes, she took them in the summer of 2012 to Gulf Shores (we suspected she got a heavily discounted or free house), Deanna went with them. I vaguely recall her talking about a U-Haul filled with food---as if there wouldn't be any down there, LOL. And I think she took the twins out west at some point, maybe for their b'day shortly after the show was cancelled in 2011? But I believe that's it.
Rainbowsandunicorns said... 57
I may be wrong, but there was a beach vacation that wasn't filmed. Didn't some suspect that Gladys was somehow involved with that? I remember someone saying that they left the beach umbrella out for her. It wasn't filmed.
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Wasn't there a trip to North Carolina last summer? I remember posts on this blog about it and there were a couple pictures from someone's social media of Kate and a dog and of Kate and Purseboy (from a distance).
Rainbowsandunicorns,
If you read above, someone posted about an IG Live session where Hannah answered questions and someone asked her if Collin will be living with her and Jon soon. She answered "Yes".
You're right, there have been some vacations that were not filmed, but Kate certainly didn't pay for them. She took some of the kids back to that dude ranch in Wyoming, but they invited her back--probably free, since it was their invite. We suspect Milo paid for the Alabama beach vacay during the time that the show was cancelled--she hinted at it, and posted that she left the beach umbrella out for the Gs. And the vacation to the lake in NC last summer was probably supposed to be filmed, and therefore pre-paid by TLC. Last season was cut short (only 3 episodes), which surprised everyone--including Kate, who said she didn't know why it was so short. But someone spotted her and the kids and posted (I think it was on twitter) that she had 6 kids with her. Collin was already gone, and Hannah wasn't in any photos that Kate posted or that others who spotted them posted. I think the season was cut short because Hannah was already resisting filming, and TLC knew they couldn't get away with only 6 of the kids. IIRC, Cara didn't really show up in the birthday episode, so she may also have been resisting filming. People were already asking a lot of questions about C, and if Hannah and (possibly) Cara weren't filmed, it would not have gone unnoticed.
I miss Golly Gee! She was one of a kind.
And the vacation to the lake in NC last summer was probably supposed to be filmed, and therefore pre-paid by TLC.
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"Probably supposed" ? I am just confused how you know all of this!
So Collin living with Jon hasn't been confirmed by Jon, just Hannah saying "yes," and I would think that those details need to be worked out by the courts and the facility in which he is now living.
It must be me (or the rumspringa)), but I tend to go for the facts and not speculation.
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.....I wonder what kate would look like if her head blew up
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Very much like Sideshow Bob, I suspect. Although right now I think her head is doing a full 360 rotation on her neck like that possessed girl from The Exorcist.
Very much like Sideshow Bob, I suspect. Although right now I think her head is doing a full 360 rotation on her neck like that possessed girl from The Exorcist.
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lol! I hope she's not throwing up or peeing on her hardwood floor. That tends to get messy.
Auntie...you are a hoot!
OT...
Has anyone seen "Won't You Be My Neighbor?" I was wondering if it's good.
I would think that if the details of Collin's future placement were not worked out, Hannah would say that she didn't know or that it hadn't been worked out yet. Instead she said "Yes". Kate and Jon are court-ordered no refrain from speaking about custody issues, so Hannah's response is the best we're going to get. And she said Yes.
As far as the vacation at the lake last summer, we discussed it here and most of us thought that it was supposed to be filmed or was paid for by someone else. Kate never pays for anything if she can help it, and it was a long vacation (2 weeks, IIRC). Can you imagine her paying for something like that for her kids? I can't. The fact that only 6 kids were seen with her, and the season was cut short, also makes me suspect that something was up. And then, right away, we heard about the custody battles and police intervention last summer. Something was going on with Hannah's custody long before we heard anything about it.
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With no filming to be done, and the kids are totally useless to her right now, I'm surprised she doesn't just unload them all on Jon. What would be the purpose of keeping them all at home with her?
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I think she’s having them go with Jon one kid at a time, so as not to arouse suspicion. ��
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Remember when we always said that Kate hates Jon more than she loves her kids? She will do anything to keep from feeling that Jon 'won'.
I have been ill and way out of the loop. I think of you guys and all the OGs everytime I clean my drains with baking soda and vinegar.
Is Kate's dating show still a go?
Admin, I know every state is different, but when Hannah said she stayed with her mom because "it was a legal thing", is it possible she now, at 14, can legally choose her custodial parent? She could have been told that by a counselor at school and threatened Kate with it. Oh, the poor baby. What a burden on her heart.
Just this month an old member of this group flew literally across country to visit me for a week. It was wonderful and it was all arranged by a current, active member here. I am truly blessed.
I think of you guys and all the OGs everytime I clean my drains with baking soda and vinegar.
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Funny you shoul say that because I (literally) just finished doing that!
Good to see you Dwindle and hope that you’re feeling better.
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Can you imagine her paying for something like that for her kids? I can't.
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I can't either. After looking at 10 years of circumstantial evidence on the show, in interviews and just about everytime she opens her mouth, I find her guilty of being a money-grubbing skinflint looking for a free ride and a hand out anywhere she can get it. She likes to file lawsuits, too, whenever she thinks she's been wronged. Nope, I can't see her cracking open her wallet and using her own money to pay for a vacation with the kids.
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I haven't seen it yet but would love to. I saw the PBS special recently and I also got a letter with a Fred Rogers stamp the other day. I am a lifelong fan- my mother, me, my kids loved and thrived from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood and the simple quiet wisdom of the man himself
Emily, Gigi, Older Poster, and NJGal51, thanks so much for the info about Hannah's live feeds. I wish we could see them after the fact.
I've been really hoping that things were progressing for Collin to be living with Jon soon, especially since it looked that way due to the pics of visits posted on Instagram, and it's so nice to have that confirmed. My heart really goes out to Collin for the way TFW has treated him and I only wish him the best in life. He deserves to be part of a normal, loving, supportive family.
It's great that Hannah is living a happy and normal life with Jon, and that Collin will hopefully be living with them soon. I hate to say it, but this is one effed up family. And I'm putting the blame on TFW. It did NOT have to be this way. If only she could have been a decent person and a loving mother, she could have co-parented this large family with Jon. Millions of other people have managed to civilly co-parent, even after very bitter divorces. That's because the kids should come first and good parents know that.
Thanks to nasty, bitter, vindictive TFW, there are a multitude of fractured relationships in this family! Between some of the kids and Jon, some of the kids (Hannah and Collin) and TFW, and then the various sibling relationships that should exist but don't. TFW has singlehandedly destroyed so many relationships! She is truly evil. Since she is estranged from virtually every family member and many friends along the way, she doesn't care if she causes the same for the kids. Despicable. She doesn't even deserve to be called a "mother".
Dwindle is back!!! I'm sitting here eating my lunch, and actually shouted "DWINDLE!" I don't even mind the little bits of In-N-Out french fries that sprayed on my screen!
Dwindle, I am sorry to hear you were sick, and do hope you are doing better. I hope you will jump back in to the conversation.
Hope you are feeling better, Dwindle.That's so wonderful about your visitor.
Oh, and Dwindle (#68), whenever you say TFW hates her ex more than she loves her kids, you must pay me a dollar. That's MY line. It's mine all mine, as far as the eye can see.
But you can have "TFW is a horrible mother" for only a quarter. I'll give Admin my Venmo information. There's a saltwater pool, a leather couch, and a 3rd car I have my eye on, and I wasn't blessed with 8 kids to pay my bills.
DWINDLE -- I adore you.
Every time I think of you I imagine your country home and bucolic lifestyle. I wish a return to health for you. I hope that you are well enough to enjoy what you worked for so diligently.
I think of you and hunny bunny more than you could ever imagine.
Pop in often to get us all excited. You and Auntie and Flimsy can encourage each other to greater heights of humor!
Regarding the vacation to the Gulf in 2012, when the story broke on Radar Online that Scott at Coupon Cabin had fired her, one of the employees posted a comment stating that Kate asked for a free beach house in Alabama from a customer, who normally provided veteran discounts. I wonder if this was the house they went to.
Dwindle - I hope you're feeling better. Yes, everytime I pull out the vinegar jug to fill a spray bottle to clean the counters or freshen the drain, my thoughts go immediately back to the discussions here and the valuable tips I've learned. Cleaning the dryer vents is on my to do list next week as a matter of fact.
Be well and visit often 🤗
... that Scott at Coupon Cabin had fired her.
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Sandylove - like good wine those words get better and better with age.
"And the vacation to the lake in NC last summer was probably supposed to be filmed, and therefore pre-paid by TLC."
The studio that produced Kate's show has their headquarters in NC so that's why it was thought her NC vacation was paid for. Maybe somebody at the studio had a place at the lake? It's just strange why she would end up in NC of all places at a place that's not very well-known. On the show, they went to Bald Head Island and the Outer Banks which is in NC.
I know this is just speculation, but a lot of speculation about Kate has turned out to be right. It would be great if she did pay for vacations for the kids. The kids deserve it.
AuntieAnn (#73), and the most delicious aspect of the firing was that Scott said, straight up, that she didn't fit in with their "authentic" brand. That was just short of saying, "In our community of hardworking, decent, committed, sincere professionals who give their all to try to save our readers money, Kate Gosselin stood out like a botoxed, french-tipped thumb."
Another Duggar wedding this weekend (Josiah), another Duggar photo exclusive for People, and another Duggar payday. And TFW isn't even bothering to post puppy pics these days. Perhaps JR is right, and her head actually did blow up.
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Oh, and Dwindle (#68), whenever you say TFW hates her ex more than she loves her kids, you must pay me a dollar. That's MY line. It's mine all mine, as far as the eye can see.
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FF - I'll give you five bucks for the use of 'the heifer'. Cracks me up every time you say it.
AuntieAnn (#83), SOLD!
Flimsy- how do want to be paid...gift card, cheque or 'cash only'?
AuntieAnn (#85), oh, cash only, of course. No need to get Uncle Sam all up in my grill. Or you can pay me in freebies. I wouldn't mind finding a pallet of paper towels on my porch. Or half a cow...
Flimsy - how about a free shove off the Auckland skywalk? That's worth it's weight in a golden platter.
AuntieAnn (#87), LOL! You can see why TLC thought of her for a dating show, what with her uncanny ability to charm men on both sides of the equator.
Flimsy - Mr. Skywalkman is still on my top 10 list of people I most admire. He did what most of us could only dream of doing.
Mr WaterRaftman was cool too. I thought he would tip TFW into the rapids. He was so annoyed by her silly shrieking and diva behaviour.
Formerly Duped (#90), and what the casual viewer never stops to think about is, these scenes take HOURS and HOURS to film. Mr. Skyjump and Mr. Kayak had probably already spent 6 or 7 hours listening to TFW squawk before they let their guards down enough to give her some lip.
And these employees aren't actors. It must be challenging to have your workplace upended by a TV crew. Cameras surrounding you, a boom mike over your head, releases to sign, etc. Plus a family of 9 people (well, 8 people and one shrew) you are forced to spend hours and hours with. Then, like in the case of the Thomas train guy, you watch the show and find the star was laughing at you behind your back.
Yes, true, Flimsy. And those who entered her house and property,like the water tester, Emeril, Sara Snow, the organizers, the nannies, the landscapers, treehouse/crooked house builders,dog breeders, those motorcycle people, solar panel installers, chicken coop people, contractors, cleaners, and 'helpers, family and friends.'She treated everyone shabbily.
Yes, true, Flimsy. And those who entered her house and property,like the water tester, Emeril, Sara Snow, the organizers, the nannies, the landscapers, treehouse/crooked house builders,dog breeders, those motorcycle people, solar panel installers, chicken coop people, contractors, cleaners, and 'helpers, family and friends.'She treated everyone shabbily.
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I thought that she was enamored by Mr. Deckster Lesbian/Preacher Builder Man. I don't recall her treating him badly!
Anything from The Gladys?
Has anyone seen "Won't You Be My Neighbor?" I was wondering if it's good.
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I saw it a few days ago. I cried, and cried, and blubbered, and cried some more.
It really gets into the nuances of who he was, and how some of the simple seemingly innocent things he did on the show, were really big social statements, like inviting the black police officer to soak his feet with him on a hot day.
What was missing is where he came from, his home life, his background. What made him so gentle, so thoughtful, and so good with kids? In more searching on the internet, I couldn't find anything. It's like he appeared one day out of thin air.
Him in his younger days? Wowser, he was hot!
I was also surprised to hear that Mr. Rogers had insecurities, deep insecurities, throughout his entire life. He was always questioning what good he was doing. He had already retired from the show, but soon after 9-11 PBS asked him to come on and speak. Apparently Mr. Rogers was extremely reluctant, saying over and over what can I do to help, how will this help? He insisted he didn't think it would help. But PBS pleaded with him and so he did it.
The short talk is on youtube. He tells parents, most of whom had grown up with him, how proud he is of how they are raising their kids through this difficult time, and helping them to know they'll stay safe, express their feelings, and heal. And that's really all parents needed to hear at that time, isn't it? I'm proud of you, and don't worry you're doing fine by your kids right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtaK2rz-UJM
Gosh, pass the tissues again.
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Good to know. I have the book the World According to Mr. Rogers ( Or Fred?) with a forward by his wife Joanne that answers some of those questions.Not the the most pithy book like a biography but his quotations are interesting to read.
I loved the episode where Jeff Erlanger, a little boy who was a quadriplegic, explained his feelings about his wheelchair and disabilities, and sang along with Mr Rogers. Jeff was also on the award show as an adult and Mr Rogers vaulted up on the stage in happy surprise to see his old friend. So humble.
I want to see this doc!
I loved the episode where Jeff Erlanger, a little boy who was a quadriplegic, explained his feelings about his wheelchair and disabilities, and sang along with Mr Rogers. Jeff was also on the award show as an adult and Mr Rogers vaulted up on the stage in happy surprise to see his old friend. So humble.
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His parents were in the doc! They said the boy was a big fan of the show and was about to have very serious surgery, and they weren't even sure he was going to make it. Fearing the boy could die, they wrote to Mr. Rogers and said his dream was to meet him. And the rest is history.
He made it through the surgery of course, they credit Rogers with giving him such a big emotional boost to mentally make it through that surgery.
Basically, Mr. Rogers was doing Make-a-Wish before it had a name.
Oh, and this wasn't in the doc, but in the 80's when I had barely turned four years old I had to have a hernia surgery. Very routine, but still very scary for a little child. The worst part was being too young to explain to anyone that my stomach hurt or that I wasn't hungry, my parents watched perplexed for some time as I acted sickly but couldn't articulate what was bothering me. I remember just not feeling right but was unable to comprehend anything beyond that. Illness is such a perplexing thing when you're barely old enough to be oriented to this world and that experience gives me so much empathy for such young kids facing illness and just the sheer confusion it brings.
Finally the adults got it together and I was diagnosed. In the hospital they had books and videos from Mr. Rogers specially made for kids in hospitals, explaining who everybody was, what would happen before, during and after the surgery, and so on.
After looking at those materials with my parents, I was completely calm about it, excited even. That plus all the fun toys at the children's hospital, and I was over the moon having a good time. The surgery was fun, if you can imagine that!
In the doc, Mr. Rogers said he spent a lot of time in hospitals as a kid, had even had scarlet fever. That was an epiphany for me now, realizing this man knew what I was going through and could lend comfort because he had been in my shoes.
Years later, and I'm pretty sure this was the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJk0TfE50QQ
And this may have been the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITOheeRZBpE
Thanks youtube!
So Collin living with Jon hasn't been confirmed by Jon, just Hannah saying "yes," and I would think that those details need to be worked out by the courts and the facility in which he is now living.
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The information I have from one of the parties involved is that they are currently working on transitioning Collin to Jon.
I know, working in child welfare, this can be a slow process and often goes at the child's pace and comfort level. Slower is sometimes better for ultimate success. I do not know the time frame they're working off of.
That is consistent with Hannah's statement about the situation.
Not speculation. A source. That being said, this blog has always welcomed speculation as long as it is reasonably based on the facts we have and clearly identified as mere speculation. If it's not your cup of tea you need not respond to those comments, that's all.
Admin, I know every state is different, but when Hannah said she stayed with her mom because "it was a legal thing", is it possible she now, at 14, can legally choose her custodial parent? She could have been told that by a counselor at school and threatened Kate with it. Oh, the poor baby. What a burden on her heart.
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That's what I think she meant. The older the child gets the more say they have. In CA a child's wishes are taken into account at any age but best interest always prevails. But a judge is definitely going to give a child's wishes much more weight the older they get. And a child like Hannah, bright and emotionally intelligent as she has turned out to be, would very much be able to explain to the judge what she wants and plead her case. I can see at her age and maturity level, most judges would probably let her run the show. A 14 year old who is immature, whose wishes aren't backed up by good reason, are just shopping around the different parents to see in whose care they can get away with more so they can do their pot and their drinking (THAT happens a lot), or are clearly influenced by a parent and not thinking for themselves, in my state, would be mostly ignored in favor of their best interest.
Just this month an old member of this group flew literally across country to visit me for a week. It was wonderful and it was all arranged by a current, active member here. I am truly blessed.
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That's so cool, I love it! Glad you were able to pop in here and catch up on all the goodness happening. We've missed you terribly!
A friendly reminder no anonymous comments are allowed unless you are having trouble signing in, then you may do so if you sign your name somewhere in the post.
I recall one of the beach vacations, I think Alabama there was some hinting, hemming and hawing that Milo may have perhaps arranged it or had a hand in it.
Mere speculation!
So TFW claims she was working more than a full-time job doing the show. But her kids, who had an actual full-time job going to school in addition to being on EVERY episode, were NOT working? She claimed they were only "running in and out of camera range." Got it.
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She never stops to be sure her comments line up and don't contradict each other. If she is so darn incredibly busy with this show (not even a show right now, lol, where is it?), so busy she can't even work, how does she expect her children to have time to do anything much less school They have jobs, unlike her, full time jobs, and very important ones. They are full time students. Most child actors don't go to a real school because there isn't time. They do! Now that filming has petered out, thankfully in time for most of their teen years, I still don't think we will ever know the true extent of how all this filming had a negative effect on the rest of their lives. Perhaps they don't even know, yet.
It will be a YEAR next month since a new episode of Kate Plus 8 aired.
The information I have from one of the parties involved is that they are currently working on transferring Collin to Jon.
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Happy to hear it! When Jon posted pictures of himself and Hannah with Collin, we all hoped that it meant he was working on transitioning C out of the facility. If it were up to Kate, she'd leave him there forever. If C can't film, then he is of no use to her. In the near future, Jon will have two of the tups with him, and more may end up following. I wonder if Kate is trying to sell a "Kate Plus 6" show now.
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I thought that she was enamored by Mr. Deckster Lesbian/Preacher Builder Man. I don't recall her treating him badly!
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I seem to remember she took a shine to him, too. Maybe it was because they spoke the same language. lol. "We build build decks for preachers AND lesbians". Wow. Give the guy a lollipop.
When Jon posted pictures of himself and Hannah with Collin, we all hoped that it meant he was working on transitioning C out of the facility. If it were up to Kate, she'd leave him there forever.
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Would it really matter if he were left in the facility, or gone off to be with Jon? Either way, she would be free of Collin.
Would it really matter if he were left in the facility, or gone off to be with Jon? Either way, she would be free of Collin.
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She's deranged, and I honestly think she cares more that they're not with JON than anything else.
Not speculation. A source. That being said, this blog has always welcomed speculation as long as it is reasonably based on the facts we have and clearly identified as mere speculation. If it's not your cup of tea you need not respond to those comments, that's all.
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I guess, then, I shouldn't comment. I get confused as to what has been confirmed, from whence it cometh, who is the source, and what is speculation. I won't ask! lol!
This heat is brutal! It's almost too hot for a swimsuit.
I guess, then, I shouldn't comment. I get confused as to what has been confirmed, from whence it cometh, who is the source, and what is speculation. I won't ask! lol!
This heat is brutal! It's almost too hot for a swimsuit.
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My comment wasn't directed at you, it was directed at a couple people who were bring critical about speculation this morning. But when a source doesn't want to go on record with who they are, even though they're willing to speak to me, there's not much I can do about it. I don't share the vast majority of what was said, but I think there has been such sincere concern over Colin's fate it's important for people to know the goal is actively being worked on in terms of getting him home to Jon.
Lanc Native...This heat is brutal! It's almost too hot for a swimsuit.
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Too hot to go to the beach and the sand will literally burn your feet.
Someone on the blog made the meme I just added to the post in 2016! Talk about prophetic. I'm not sure what their blog name is but if you made it please take credit for it.
Lanc Native (#108), if C is still away at the facility, TFW can go on with the charade that he's plodding/plugging/chugging along away at "college." Whereas if he's out of the place and is with his dad, it is clear that either the court or the child picked Jon as the better parent, and then TFW LOSES.
I can see another tup or two joining Jon's household when Collin comes home.
Formerly Duped (#115), I think you're right. And I imagine some of the kids left behind are already jealous of H's new life away from the compound.
That said, I bet at least one of the kids will always stay with TFW. Narcissists find a way to inspire loyalty when push comes to shove. But sadly for the loyal person, it's a one-way street.
You can bet that others are going to follow Hannah, especially after seeing her IG photos and hearing her live feed. She's doing things that the others only dream about, and when they get the gumption to stand up to Kate they'll stand their ground and demand to see their father too. Maybe not Mady but The other two boys and maybe Leah. Time will tell.
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Would it really matter if he were left in the facility, or gone off to be with Jon? Either way, she would be free of Collin.
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I am kinda surprised you even asked this. Of course it matters: For COLLIN. As awful as we know Kate is, we need no additional proof at the expense of one of her children being left high and dry in some 24/7 facility which he may not, in fact, even belong in (diagnostically speaking) until he's of legal age.
If he is, in fact, somewhere in the process of being released to his dad, how could that NOT be beneficial to him?
With respect to KATE: No, obviously NOT, as her (and Milo's) continued silence on Twitter and IG, day after day (nearing 3 weeks now), bears out.
You talked about speculation, and you are local. Do you know something that contradicts anything that's been said in the last 24 hours? I believe Admin is a safe harbor in these situations. As a long-time commenter here, why wouldn't you approach her first?
Wishing you well.
I am kinda surprised you even asked this. Of course it matters: For COLLIN.
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I think you must have misunderstood my comment (108) or didn't read the entire thing. Why the condescending post? My comment was about KATE. If you read the entire thing. I asked why it would matter to Kate where he went because she would not have to deal with him. Of course Collin would benefit from living with Jon rather than be thrown back into that dysfunctional household. I don't think that anyone is arguing otherwise.
"You talked about speculation, and you are local. Do you know something that contradicts anything that's been said in the last 24 hours? I believe Admin is a safe harbor in these situations. As a long-time commenter here, why wouldn't you approach her first? "
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Approach her first about what? I don't know anything other than what was reported here and I never said or implied that I did. I honestly don't know what you are talking about because I haven't been following it that closely. It's always nice to know sources, what is speculation and what is fact, but many times sources aren't revealed and one is free to either believe it or not.
Someone up thread asked about the legal issue that Hannah mentioned ("law")and age requirements for deciding with whom to live. Here's how it is in PA:
"It’s often a tough choice for even the most mature child. Do I want to live with mom or dad after the divorce?
But what does the law say? In Pennsylvania, at what age can a child legally decide which parent to live with?
As most family law attorneys will tell you, the answer is not as steadfast as a drinking age, or age to vote. There is no magic number. A judge will take a child’s preference into account, along with that child’s age, maturity and other factors. It’s subjective and varies from case to case. No Pennsylvania divorce lawyer can say for certain what the answer can be – it really depends.
The Pennsylvania Superior Court stated:
“The weight to be accorded a child’s preference varies with the age, maturity and intelligence of that child, together with the reasons given for the preference. Moreover, as children grow older, more weight must be given to the preference of the child.” Wheeler v. Mazur, 793 A.2d 929 (Pa. Super. 2002).
Most judges is more likely to consider a child’s choice if it’s based upon sound, mature reasons, versus a preference that seems to be based upon momentary whim or impulse.
Of course, much of the decision is still based on the parents. Courts will always look at things like their employment and living situations, geographic locations/ plans to relocate, or a history of substance abuse or violence. Pennsylvania’s family law is pretty similar to most other states in this regard.
So the short answer is, the older and more mature a child is, the more credence their opinion has in deciding custody, or who they will live with. But there is no set age where they are legally entitled to make a decision."
Lanc Native (#120), speaking of maturity, H already blows her mom out of the water in that department. We've joked about it here over the years...that TFW is stuck at 12 emotionally, and that her kids would soon surpass her.
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I took your comment to mean what would Collin's fate matter to Kate since if he isn't filming he's of no use, as an icky boy and one who doesn't buy thst's she's' in charge and that's never gonna change,' We all care about Collin and his health and happiness.
“The weight to be accorded a child’s preference varies with the age, maturity and intelligence of that child, together with the reasons given for the preference. Moreover, as children grow older, more weight must be given to the preference of the child.” Wheeler v. Mazur, 793 A.2d 929 (Pa. Super. 2002).
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That's pretty much the rule in CA, and it's a good one.
I don't think the law should be "at 14 a child can decide where he lives." That fails to take into account the individual child. What if that child is incredibly alienated against the other parent? The judge has to have the power to say, I hear your wishes, but I will decide who it is best for you to live with. A teen child could also have developmental challenges that make a good decision hard for them to reason out, or they may be emotionally not ready to make the decision. Finally, the chid should not be burdened from such a choice. Ultimately, I believe it is better for Hannah to know that a JUDGE finally decided it's best for her to be with her dad, and not just Hannah. And for any parent who may blame her later.
It's always nice to know sources, what is speculation and what is fact, but many times sources aren't revealed and one is free to either believe it or not.
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1. time and time again our sources from both me and others and even speculation have turned out to be right on the money. The track record here is excellent.
2. I don't share things with the blog I'm not fully confident is true. Things could change of course. Tomorrow the plan could change to sending Collin to Kate. But as of today, the plan is Jon.
3. even if you know the source, it could always be the case they themselves are not being very forthcoming, or are being misleading, so knowing the source doesn't really help much in this situation, other than implying maybe you would think my source is not good if you knew them, which like I said, I wouldn't have shared it if so.
My source had genuine joy and excitement, and most of all HOPE that the plan was Jon, which lent them a great deal of credibility to me.
Admin (#124), thanks for passing that information along to us. C is only 14, and I'd like to think happier days are ahead for him.
For all TFW's bellyaching about her childhood, it's interesting to observe the range of chaos she's created for her own kids. All the globetrotting, and the beautiful house, and the amazing school cannot make up for the mind games, cruelty, anger, immaturity and unkindness with which their lives have been permeated...and ALL of it caused directly by their own mother. Mark my words, some of them will never forgive her. And the impact of this kind of damage to their future relationships (whether it's with friends, romantic partners or business associates) may not be measured mm for decades.
H live-streamed last night. I am not sure if I caught it at the end because it was short but all the boys were there. They weren’t shown but you could here them. They were having a water balloon fight. She wasn’t reading comments out loud, just laughed about 3 brothers trying very hard to get her wet. She said, ‘don’t get me wet’ ‘guys, my phone’ ‘laughter, a lot, and deep voices. She said something like this is what happens when you have 3 brothers. I got literally teary eyed. So there we have it, all the boys over, including Collin. My personal feeling is this might not have been his first weekend w Jon but maybe his first weekend w the brothers. I’m assuming she can’t show Joel and Aaden on camera at this time. Praise be!!!!!!
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Older poster, thanks! Hannah is keeping us well-informed with these live streams. I couldn't be happier for Collin and all the kids ( except Alexis and Leah) who got to spend time together and with Jon. And that Collin seems on track to move in with his dad and H.
And Admin, thanks for the info. Of course you can't reveal a source. Things are looking up!
Older Poster -- Thank you! I have a heartfelt reaction to that news. Maybe this connection will stretch all the way to the 4th. I am so glad you shared this report.
A water balloon fight? Fun? Oh, what a mediocre memory that will create.
(Sarcasm)
I took your comment to mean what would Collin's fate matter to Kate since if he isn't filming he's of no use, as an icky boy and one who doesn't buy thst's she's' in charge and that's never gonna change,' We all care about Collin and his health and happiness.
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That's exactly what I understood the comment to mean. Of course it matters to Collin. If Kate can't film Collin and the show has bit the dust, then why would Kate care where he went, to Jon's or stayed where he is now? He's no use to her, unless she's counting on those funds to pay her bills. How does that work...if two of the kids live with him, can he (or WOULD he?) pull money out of that account for their safety, welfare, health and education? I kind of doubt that he would want to build a deck for the welfare of the kids, and their happiness!
I didn't know that admin had a source, and while I like facts, as long as she thinks it's credible, then this must come on good authority.
Older poster (#126), praise be indeed! What an absolutely wonderful bit of news to know that that the G boys have reunited - if only temporarily. I would guess none of the kids were impacted as strongly as C's brothers by his absence. They were not only roommates but wombmates.
And the thought that this news is probably disappointing, if not downright infuriating, to their gestational carrier makes me nauseous.
Jon is smart to move for custody of C now. Kate may believe she has found fame independent of the kids (the new dating show), so her focus is on herself. She may think that she doesn't need the kids to stay on TV, and won't fight as hard to keep the kids to herself. Of course, we know this dating show is going to fail, but she may not realize it yet. Best to strike while that window of opportunity is still open.
We know there was a change in custody. Hannah is with Jon, Collin is being transferred to Jon's custody, and Kate is suing Jon because he dared to go for a change in custody. I wonder if she has any contact or will have visitation with C. I was surprised that she didn't post her own photo with him after Jon and Hannah posted theirs. Maybe she can't. If C's doctors and counselors believe that her presence is harmful to him, can they stop her from seeing him? Just speculation, of course, but we were all surprised that she didn't post something to save face. Maybe she just doesn't care and has never bothered to visit him. I can't imagine her driving a couple hours to where he is, maybe bringing along a little gift for him, and spending quality time bonding with him.
I noticed that some of the pro-Kate commenters on the recent news stories about H and Jon are saying that he only has one child living with him, and that he chose H over the others. I think it was H who took the initiative to get out of Kate's house. And while he only has H at the moment, that could change. He only has H with him full-time SO FAR. Remember that, Kate fans (we know you read here).
I do think the boys will see how great H has it at Jon's and now that C will be living there, they may be swayed. I know they are close to, or rather in awe of their mother, but hopefully they will have the strength to join 2 of their siblings. Leah probably is having no fun without H at home.And I hope Alexis who adores Aaden especially, would follow suit. The twins are gong to college- is it this fall or the next?I think it may be too late for them to reconcile with Jon until they are fully grown, idk.They always had cutting remarks about Mommy in the couch interviews so I don't get their allegiance.
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Leah might have been there visiting along with the boys, but just didn't take part in the water balloon fight. She and Hannah were always so close, and Leah has always been part of "the usual four" who visited Jon.
I can also see the boys wanting to be with Jon and Hannah and Collin. I remember from a recap (13th birthday?) they were asked about their siblings and said, "Hannah's cool". And if Collin is there, and they have a good relationship with Jon, then they might end up there. But--they are so easy-going, they might be easy for Kate to manipulate. Time will tell, I guess.
Can you imagine Kate allowing them to have a water balloon fight at home? All those little pieces of broken balloon to clean up. Not a chance. But Jon would allow it because it's fun.
Admin, in Jon's IG video, he talked about "the situation" but didn't give any specifics about what the situation was. H was already living with him, so was the situation the change of custody with Collin? He alluded to the he and H had posted, and those pictures included their visits to Collin. Did your source mention it?
We know there was a change in custody. Hannah is with Jon, Collin is being transferred to Jon's custody, and Kate is suing Jon because he dared to go for a change in custody.
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I thought she was suing Jon for back child support payments. Is she suing him over a custody dispute, too?
The comment at 118 to LANC was a bit on the snippy side. Why the attitude? Is it the heat? I can't imagine that it's even cool under Joy's veranda right now. What color muumuu and Crocs are you wearing today, Auntie?
Is Milo still MIA?
Hannah with Jon and hopefully Colin in the near future could possibly set off a quick succession of the tups desiring to live with Jon.
The twins have one one year at home.
Kate could possible face an empty nest in one year.
Still no instagram post from Kate.last one was 6/12.
Midnight Madness (137)
Kate is suing Jon for child support in arrears because he went for a change in custody. According to her, they made an agreement in 2012 that he did not have to pay the arrears, as long as he did not try to change custody. Now that Hannah's custody has changed and he is in the process of getting custody of Collin, she is suing for the full amount of back child support because he violated the terms of the (supposed) 2012 agreement. So the lawsuit is about both custody and child support.
Lanc Native, my sincere apologies for misinterpreting your comment. And yes, Midnight Madness, the heat may certainly be a factor. Also had a sudden death in my family last week, so that's probably got me a little twisted, too.
https://pikdo.net/p/zippollusa/1763225230400154622_5893709915
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LOL! Zippollusa had a poll about Kate Plus date and asked if people were interested...over 1000 people responded. 10% hope that she finds love and 90% said no - she’s irrelevant.
Sad but true (#140), so sorry to hear you lost a family member. I know both you and Lanc Native, like most of our posters, are Team Kids.
LOL! Zippollusa had a poll about Kate Plus date and asked if people were interested...over 1000 people responded. 10% hope that she finds love and 90% said no - she’s irrelevant.
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I can't believe that TLC is actually going through with this fiasco.
Is Collin's transition to Jon's in the very near future, or months away?
Sad But True - so sorry to hear of your loss. Prayers to you and your family.
Thanks, all of you. It was not a total surprise (alcoholism), but still a shock. And life goes on.
Sad but true, I'm sorry for your loss. My brother died from alcoholism also, it's a disease. Nevertheless, I still miss him.
This is another test. I've been trying for several days to get blogger to quit eating my posts!
Dwindle, I'm happy to see you posting & I hope you are on the mend health-wise.
Jolie Jacquelyn (#148), it's Jon's fault!
Schmoopy must be fit to be tied. Loss of control is her worst nightmare. Remember, she bristled at the idea that Jon should have ANY say in "her" children's upbringing.
I'm on a roll now!
TFW is finally getting what she deserves & so are the kids.
Flimsy, you have to be the kindest person on this board.
Ha - Eat your heart out Milo!
It seems she's gob-smacked. Not a word from her since it was revealed the kids are spending time with their "dead-beat" father.
Karma is worth waiting for.
"I wonder if she has any contact or will have visitation with C. I was surprised that she didn't post her own photo with him after Jon and Hannah posted theirs. Maybe she can't. If C's doctors and counselors believe that her presence is harmful to him, can they stop her from seeing him?"
I've always wondered if Collin doesn't want to see his mother. Would he have a choice about that? An old article from Radar mentioned he blamed his mother for everything. It's just puzzling Kate who always to has win and one-up Jon didn't post her own picture with Collin.
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I can't imagine that it's even cool under Joy's veranda right now. What color muumuu and Crocs are you wearing today, Auntie?
Is Milo still MIA?
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Milo's probably been busy voting 100+ times for 'hope she finds love' on the Zippollusa site so she had no time for Schmoopy's IG.
As for me, I wore a stunning blue flannel muumuu today with matching socks and pink crocs. It's been chilly and raining so I actually had to turn up the thermostat. I know some of you are going through a heat wave right now so please....don't hate me. I was frozen.
As for me, I wore a stunning blue flannel muumuu today with matching socks and pink crocs. It's been chilly and raining so I actually had to turn up the thermostat. I know some of you are going through a heat wave right now so please....don't hate me. I was frozen.
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Oh, it's not just hot. It's insane. Heat index today at 115. When and if it drops into the high 80s, low 90s, it will feel like a cold snap.
Wow, AuntieAnn, flannel! The word makes me sweat! Heatwave here and no end in sight except a brief drop to 80sF and thunderstorms. Funny how we complain of the cold in winter and the heat of summer.But I do like 4 seasons. Wish I had a POOL and if I did, I would SWIM in it. I guess you're off to the skating rink or do you want to build a snowman?
TFW's County and Formerly - I was kidding. I don't actually have a flannel muumuu lol - but I was wearing yoga pants and a sweat shirt. Extreme temps are not to my liking either, but there's not much we can do about it. We are gearing up for the mercury to climb to the mid to high 30's (Celcius) here at the end of the week. But 115F? Yikes! That's too hot.
Last year our heat wave started in June and lasted clear through to the end of August. It was brutal and it certainly contributed to my DH's demise.
I hope you all can find a way to stay cool!
Formerly Duped, you have to get a saltwater pool put in immediately! Think of all the money it will save you! And to save even more money, make sure you have 3 cars for each licensed driver in your house.
Speaking of cars, I wonder if Kate will crack open her wallet and get cars for the twins before they go away to college. I doubt it, unless she's planning to take the money out of their trusts to pay for them. Then she can put a big bow on each one and pretend they are from her so she gets all the credit for being the best mommy ever. And then, to reward herself for all that effort, she can get a new car for herself.
Layla, all is fine,; I have a wading pool for my dog I can dip my feet in. Not salt water but still, lol. As for cars , I have a new one, just one, and am hoping it doesn't get eaten by rodents ( as I posted about a couple of weeks ago. Insurance sadly did not cover 'vermin damage')We park over mothballs on the driveway since we don't have a 3-car garage.
Wonder what the resistance to driving was with the twins. Cara said they wouldn't be allowed to drive anywhere they needed to go, or something, so there was no point. Then there was that silly part of an episode where TFW was teaching them in the John Deere I think- and they messed everything up.If they do get cars, I agree, they will be paid for from their trust funds or TLC should there be any more episodes or a special.
Layla (#156), what a shock for TFW to find out her sons have more fun with water balloons than in her pool. Or should I say their pool -- those kids' childhoods paid for it.
Then there was that silly part of an episode where TFW was teaching them in the John Deere I think- and they messed everything up.
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Can you imagine Kate teaching anyone to drive? She'd be constantly screeching and squawking in your ear. Better to take a Driver's Ed course and learn from someone who knows the rules and that would exclude Schmoopy. IIRC she is a lead-footed danger on the road.
Enjoy your 4th of July holiday tomorrow. Remember someone who served our country. Hang a flag. Be safe.
Formerly Duped,
It's easy enough to convert your wading pool to a salt water pool--just grab the salt shaker from your kitchen and apply liberally. Problem solved!
Yes, I remember reading about Kate teaching the twins to drive using the gator, and they were terrible at it. Funny thing though, wasn't Mady careening around with several of the younger kids in the back of it in one of the 10th birthday episodes?
Hi all! Wanted to comment on the driving thing. It is a "thing" around here for teens to have little to no interest in driving. My grandson, who would have access to a car, was all meh about it. He is 17 and mom and dad are now insisting on it. Lots of our neighbors are reporting similar stories. Happy 4th holiday!
FOTK (#162), hello stranger! What a treat to see you!
In the past week we've had some surprise posts from old posters. We've also had posts from a poster called Old Poster. And even a post from a poster called Oldest Poster.
At this point, I'm wondering about the pestle in the vessel, and the brew that is true. And when you start quoting Danny Kaye lyrics, it's a pretty fair bet you're an old poster, no matter what your screen name is!
FOTK -- hello. Good to see you.
Flimsy -- I am the oldest muumuu wearing poster!! (I think.)
Flimsy - The chalice from the palace has the brew that is true.
FOTK,
Hi! So good to hear from you, we've missed you!
FOTK - Not in my neck of the woods. Every 16 year old around is getting their driver's license. Even taking private lessons instead of waiting for school to be sure they get it on their 16th birthday.
Hi all! Wanted to comment on the driving thing. It is a "thing" around here for teens to have little to no interest in driving. My grandson, who would have access to a car, was all meh about it. He is 17 and mom and dad are now insisting on it. Lots of our neighbors are reporting similar stories. Happy 4th holiday!
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Welcome back! And the same thing is going on here. Teens are showing little to no interest in driving. I have speculated that driving was never really about driving itself, it was about the ability to go see and be with friends. Now that kids have access to all kinds of social media, as well as perhaps coddling parents much more willing to drive them everywhere when ours were perhaps not quite so accommodating, it removes some of the reasons to drive.
I was also surprised to hear two different teens I know say they were SCARED to drive. These are kids who are not normally anxious, too. Have all our efforts to educate kids about the dangers of driving including drunk driving, complete with scary pictures and youtube videos, actually just scared kids?
I guess with Uber kids really don’t even have to depend on their parents to get them where they want to go. My nephew is 35 and just now learning to drive because he’s moved out of the tri-state area and doesn’t have easy access to mass trans.
TFW had 4 posts last 4th of July. What will this year bring? Dog pics and dark fireworks picture I'm thinking.
TFW had 4 posts last 4th of July. What will this year bring? Dog pics and dark fireworks picture I'm thinking.
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I really need a picture of her July 4th cake. I can't have a 4th party without seeing that all-original cake with the blueberries and strawberries.
I wonder if TLC really has been filming Kate Plus Date. Nobody has reported seeing her out and about, which is strange.
"Milo's probably been busy voting 100+ times for 'hope she finds love' on the Zippollusa site so she had no time for Schmoopy's IG."
There are so many posts I would like on this site, and this is one. Maybe Milo is a secret computer genius and can rig the results.
TFW has come out of hiding because one of the kids got their braces off so she’s posted a picture of the cake.
It's a picture of a cake with a smiling face on it surrounded by bowls of candy.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkyaUymgJvw/?hl=en&taken-by=kateplusmy8
"kateplusmy8We shed another set of braces today.... can you guess who? #BracesOffParty#7 (at least)"
We know it's not Hannah or Collin.
LOL. Poor Kate, soooo many questions. Time for another People cover? (comments on the latest IG post)
tiffany.manross Hannah lives with her dad.
dingdongjess@tiffany.manross Hannah doesn’t live with her dad. No one of them live with there dad. They live with there Mom.
gabyschues@dingdongjess wrong! Hannah confirmed on her Instagram that she’s living with her dad
cassidymartinig@gabyschues if you were a true fan you’d know none of the kids have instagram
gabyschues@cassidymartinig lol you’re funny. I’m a bigger fan than you! Her Instagram is itsmehjg. It’s authentic
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_emily.gilroy_@cassidymartinig Hannah does live with her dad... and she does have an Instagram... the only reason she has one and none of the other kids don’t is because Hannah lives with her father and Jon allows her to have one
almesloob Hmmm funny that my comment disappeared, but I'll post again: it is not a party for Collin that's for sure. Poor kid clearly needs braces, but doesn't won't be getting them, unlike the rest of the his siblings :( What a sad situation.
almesloob For those of you wondering, yes Hannah is living with Jon, and has been for a while now. Here is her official Instagram @itsmehjg. You're welcome ;)
I think the cake is for Alexis...the picture of the girl on the cake is kind of slapdash.Plus her teeth were always fairly straight. JMO
Jon and Hannah have both posted pictures wishing everyone a happy 4th. They look very happy together. I wonder if the TFW will post a picture or just allude to all the fun they’re having because she’s the bestest mom in the world.
Wishing everyone on this board a glorious 4th! We’re picking up our elderly neighbor (who is currently in assisted living) and bringing him to our house for a BBQ.
cassidymartinig@gabyschues if you were a true fan you’d know none of the kids have instagram
gabyschues@cassidymartinig lol you’re funny. I’m a bigger fan than you! Her Instagram is itsmehjg. It’s authentic
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The fans really are lacking in critical thinking skills aren't they? Because Kate says they don't have social media, they don't.
Turns out, Hannah's had it for years. And there is evidence others do too.
Admin (#179), I think part of it is that TFW has succeeded in keeping the kids "young" with the info she provides on her social media accounts. Playing Life! Cake and candy! Playing with puppies! And all of this under Mommy's roof.
Admin (#179), I think part of it is that TFW has succeeded in keeping the kids "young" with the info she provides on her social media accounts.
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Only in her fantasy is she keeping them young. But yes that's clearly what she's tried to do almost since they were born. They will realize it, resent it, and rebel.
She's like Shirley Temple's mother, curling that poor girl's hair into perfect little ringlets deep into her teen years.
Poor Aurelie Corinthios has been usurped by someone named Michele Corriston over at PEOPLE. They've got a story about Jon and Hannah celebrating Independence Day together.
Although I don't post here much anymore, I still read this blog faithfully. I'm so happy for H and C and that they now have the opportunity to have a real relationship with their father; that is so important to every child, boy or girl. I hope opens the door for the other kids to feel free to see thir dad.
Dwindle and FOTK, it so good to see you both psoting again. I hope things are going well wioth you and your families.
I hope all of you here have a safe and happy 4th!
Geeesh, I should have proof read before hitting publish.
LoveMyGrandsons (#183), nice to see you. Hope you are well.
The last time so many previous posters came around was when C had been sent away, and TFW used that solemn occasion for an all-smiles People photo shoot and a paycheck. It sure is nice to reconvene under happier circumstances.
And Milo's still entombed under whatever boulder K8 rolled on top of her. No posts on Twitter or IG for nearly 4 weeks.
It's so nice to see so many former posters back in the fold. Now if only Tucker's Mom would make an appearance.
Happy 4th to our American friends! We're all so lucky to be living in this part of the world.
https://www.eonline.com/news/949333/jon-gosselin-celebrates-fourth-of-july-with-daughter-hannah
An article about Jon and Hannah on the fourth.
"Hannah has been living with Jon full-time for quite a while," a source told E! News in May. "It's been her choice and he is humbled. They have a great relationship."
The People article always brings up Mady's quotes about Jon while other articles don't. Coyne must make it mandatory for every Jon/Hannah article.
How is everyone's dog going to deal with fireworks? My Nervous Nellie of a dog needs Xanax. She had to have a dose early since my neighbor was practicing with his fireworks.Thunder-shirt , lavender etc don't cut it for her.
How is everyone's dog going to deal with fireworks? My Nervous Nellie of a dog needs Xanax. She had to have a dose early since my neighbor was practicing with his fireworks.Thunder-shirt , lavender etc don't cut it for her.
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They don’t seem to bother my boy - when heard from a distance and in the house. I’d never chance bringing him down to the beach to watch them though. Thunder has never bothered him. We are very lucky.
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And Milo's still entombed under whatever boulder K8 rolled on top of her. No posts on Twitter or IG for nearly 4 weeks.
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I'm sure her world was shattered when it was revealed that Hannah was definitely living with Jon and that Jon had found Collin. Poor thing doesn't know what to do now.
Our little Annie slept through ferocious thunder earlier today. She won't even notice the firework pops.
But, don't ring our doorbell!
EEE, my doh had a terrible night but I'm glad others had snoozy canines. People buy fireworks illegally and set them off in the backyard- started at 5 pm and last ones at 2 am!!! Local police never get involved.We had windows shut and AC on plus the TV for part of the time.
I'm all for a controlled safe celebration of a set time, but this was dangerous and inconsiderate. Thunder tomorrow...how many times can I drug my anxious girl? She's asleep now, but no sleep for us.She kept jumping on my lap/body in bed and she's 54 lbs.
Fireworks are legal here. New law was passed recently. This includes Roman candles, bottle rockets, and more, Class C fireworks, but must not be set off within 150 feet of an occupied property. People are disregarding that law, and police are not getting involved.
It was a horrible night, with the last ones going off around 1 a.m. Dogs were fine, but one of the cats was totally freaking out and decided to find comfort on my stomach. She's the heaviest cat. Wouldn't you know it?
No IG photos of the 4th of July? Kate's probably scrolling through the pictures on her iPhone, searching for some that don't make it obvious that 2 of her kids are not there. I'd expect one picture of her flag cake, one of the flag-lined driveway, and one of the backs of a few heads in the dark, watching fireworks. And a generic blurb about how fun it was to celebrate the 4th with family and friends (at least, the family and friends she has left).
Milo's probably apoplectic over Hannah living with Jon. H's defection ruins Milo's image of a Kate's deliriously happy family situation, and it also means Jon beat Kate in court for H's custody. Not such a wimpy boy now, is he, Milo? She may have crawled out of bed and done some reading here, only to find out that Collin's custody is being transferred to Jon. That would have sent her right back to her sickbed.
The Daily Mail has an article up now, "Jon Gosselin celebrates 4th of July with daughter Hannah.....". TFW will be livid; the comments are brutal!!!
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bm (#196), thanks for letting us know about the Daily Mail article. Radar picked up the picture, too.
It's interesting that people still comment about Jon leaving TFW, when it was TFW who admittedly kicked him out.
Is this the first time Kate hasn't posted about July 4 since she became famous? Mother's Day and July 4 were her thing, and Jon and Hannah got all the publicity.
Look at poor Collin in the older photo in the article. Wonder if TFW just gave him a pinch or a threat as she sits like butter wouldn't melt...
Layla (195): "She may have crawled out of bed and done some reading here, only to find out that Collin's custody is being transferred to Jon."
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Has this happened already, or is the transfer of custody planned in the near future? Any time given?
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