So, confession, my own birthday is very close to the day to the Tups, so I too know about how the birthday will every seven years or so fall on Mother's Day or darn close. For me growing up that was never made an issue. Each were celebrated every year as if any other birthday or Mother's Day, just as you would treat a child the same who was born on or near Christmas. And to my great shock, Kate has agreed to allow the children their birthday day, and she will celebrate Mother's Day on another day. That is probably the most unselfish thing she has done in years, and I can't work out what the catch is, there must be one. Apparently Leah was the one who told Kate she felt sorry that Kate had to share Mother's Day with their birthday. Kate's response was Mother's Day can be any day. Wait, rewind. Did Kate say "any" day, or EVERY day? Not sure which one I heard. Because that could be the catch, she'll give them their birthday, but she gets every other day! Moo-ha-ha!
Like good little parental alienated children, Alexis dutifully recites the script that she is most grateful for Kate because she "takes care of us alone!"
Oh, brother. Here we go. This episode aired on May 10, 2015. I know, uncharacteristically timely. Usually we would expect a Halloween episode around about this time. But we're now three years later, and there's a world of difference between trying to brainwash 10-year-olds and trying to brainwash 14-year-olds. See Hannah.
The kids are planning a surprise breakfast for Kate, which mostly consists of Mady ordering everybody else about. Mady is really, really firm with the kids, constantly raising her voice and pushing them around. It's awful to listen to. She learned this from her mother, and it won't serve her well. It won't work for teachers, or professors. It won't work for friends. It won't work for boyfriends. And good luck with marriage.
Kate takes about five minutes to simply tell us she doesn't know what the kids are up to. Yeah, I know people like that. Moments you will never get back.
So, like, Kate left her kids alone with the crew this whole time? Unbelievable. They're probably old enough the crew won't molest any of them easily, but what about their comfort during filming, their safety? Where is their mother to watch out for children who are getting too tired filming, being pushed too hard, are hungry, who need a break from it? Collin is here, and we know now he has special needs! Terrible.
Lol, old pics of Kate. I'm a good deal younger than Kate, yet still close enough in age to be in the same sort of fashion era growing up. It was all about the same for a long period. How come in the late 80's, 90's, all of us kids dressed and styled like 40-year-old tenured school teachers? How was this cool? It's so bizarre. And hilarious. There's Kate, all of 16, and through no fault of her own, dolled up in a snazzy turquoise turtle neck, busy black and white patterned v-neck cardigan thing, little gold necklace and matching ring, dark red nail polish and lipstick, and the Mary Kay Leturneau haircut from her molesting days, bangs and all. See what I mean?! Teacher haircuts were once outrageously cool!
And just some ramblings, but putting myself back in that time period, I'm going to guess Kate was cool. And I think the information we have was she did run with the cool kids, had a cool boyfriend, was a cheerleader, was reasonably popular. What it took to be cool back in the day was often a little money from your parents, to buy the right clothes and get into the right sports, like cheer. Indeed, Kate's clothes look pretty on point for what they are. So all this ungrateful nonsense from her about her parents not treating her right or giving her what she needed to make it, it seems like Kate was doing just fine for herself even back in the teen years. Try being an uncool kid to begin with whose parents genuinely couldn't afford any of these latest styles, or any of the things that would transition you into making cheer (like a little gymnastics lessons) like how I and many of my friends in the rural Northeast grew up. It's not fun at the time, but you grow up and eventually realize everybody did their best and thankfully it doesn't matter one bit you weren't cool then and didn't do cheer and you were probably better off not being part of all that anyway.
Some boring old clips. Kate tells the story again that she always wanted to be a mom since she was a really young kid, would even have dreams about adopting piles of kids on her doorstep. Pull over the furniture because I want to armchair this. First of all, I don't think it's normal for a pre-pubescent girl to feel that strongly about children just yet. Many little girls will claim they want a baby, but it has more to do with just liking to play babydolls and imagining yourself married to Leo with six kids living in New York City, you're a lunch lady and you drive a Mercedes because that game MASH predicted that, and little to do with what motherhood really entails and the much more complex feelings a mature adult woman often has about having children.
So, I think Kate's obsession with not one baby but many babies was not normal at her age, and I wouldn't be surprised if the baby obsession was related to her fanciful desire to have someone or many someones love her in the way she thinks other people didn't, namely her parents. Her parents surely loved her unconditionally, but Kate is the type to interpret discipline, telling her no to things, or having rules she doesn't like, as a parent not really loving her. That would be Kate.
Kate says she went to nursing school to bag a doctor husband. Just kidding, she says she went to nursing school to have knowledge about caring for her children and supporting them. You have to be a nurse to care for your kids properly? Can't you just call Kaiser if they get sick? They have a 24/7 hotline and the nurse always helps you out, although the preliminary just-making-sure-this-isn't-an-emergency questions are always kind of ridiculous. If I wasn't breathing I wouldn't be calling a 1-800 number, lady, shouting in my entire ten digit member ID into my iPhone, shouting in the last four digits of my social security number, saying "correct", and shouting 4, then 2, then 4 again, then 1 to finally get to your ass.
If you want to know how to take care of kids you could also pick up a parenting book or do a basic first aid for babies and children course through the Red Cross and skip the incredible expense of nursing school. It's just a weird reason to go that doesn't really make sense. How about, I went to nursing school to help sick people? Nah, too cliche.
Also, how was Kate going to get these kids anyhow? Did she even know Jon at this point? Maybe in nursing school she learned how sex works?
I'm enjoying the old pics of pre-botoxed Kate, though! She truly has progressed over the years. Or, regressed, if you like.
Oh, did anyone catch the old clip of Kate talking into the camera about how not-glamorous she felt when the six babies were maybe three months old? It looked just like a screen test tape we always suspected she may have sent off to TLC to get her show. Busted.
Does anyone care about her boring fertility story for Mady and Cara? I sure don't. She had to wait awhile to take a pregnancy test because it's not like today when you can take a test a few minutes after conception. Um, they still don't have those.
Once in a great while Kate will say or do something really genuine, and a tiny part of me wants to like the woman. They show an old home movie Kate herself filmed, showing her pregnancy test with the twins. A faint line. She then pans down to the counter where she's taken two more tests! Much stronger lines. She's pregnant, and it's the most wanted pregnancy ever, she says Because, yeah, ya totally do line up those tests and keep peeing on them one after another in disbelief! And I almost, almost, teared up a little at year 2000 Kate finding out such good news.
I think you get to a certain age and you just can't help but cry when you hear someone is pregnant especially someone you care about, or even when you know someone else is finding out someone they care about is pregnant! How many of us both laughed and definitely cried as our dearly departed Golly Gee found out she was going to be a grandma not once, but twice, in this lovely tribute video one of her sons made. ("You better not be joking me, I'll kill you!")
Had Kate been more like 2000 Kate throughout these long years, she might actually have some viewers left who genuinely care about her.
Wow Kate needs to stop being, like, a likable person; this episode is getting spooky. She says the twins were such easy-going babies she was like, hm, I'd like another! Dude, I know so many parents who had an easy first child by sheer luck of the draw and were then like, parenting is easy, adulting is a breeze, I don't know what everybody else is talking about with terrible-this or that. Let's have another!
Famous last words.
There were so many old clips and Kate yammering on I nearly forgot that in "present day" the kids are still making breakfast for Kate. Nothing interesting happens.
Is it just me, or is it really mean when adults say to children, "It's the thought that counts." It's basically just a nicer way of saying your work sucks. I have vivid memories of various adults saying this to me and other kids when I was a kid and even at the time I knew exactly what they were really saying. If there is one thing I caught onto pretty quickly as a child, and still do believe today, it's that many adults assume kids are stupid or don't know wtf is going on. Wrong.
Well, at least the younger girls seem happy and excited to have helped out with the breakfast, including the pancakes and fruit salad. Kids this age desperately need to be assigned mild to moderately challenging tasks and figure them out on their own, it's crucial to normal development and good self esteem.
There's a discussion about "Collin's card-making station" which I guess is where they will make the Mother's Day card, but I don't see Collin anywhere. I'm guessing if he were even still around at this point, this was one of the last episodes he was in the house for, but not actually on camera. It was a slow progression with that kid that gradually took him out of the show.
Mady, who is far too old to still be whining about this, says the day the sextuplets were born was the worst day of her life and it was pretty awful after that too. While it certainly would be hard on a little girl to have so many younger brothers and sisters, now at her age, it's time to grow up. Also in defense of Kate and of course Jon, they went to great lengths to make sure Mady and Cara felt special and privileged and there were many things the twins got to do that the sextuplets were left out of. Mady is, sadly, a selfish and ungrateful child. Some children come by unselfish characteristics naturally, others, like Mady, must be taught and if they're not taught, unsavory aspects become a solid part of their personality, and it's unattractive.
Kate rattles off some of her parenting "rules" as we watching boring old clips. Stick to a schedule, no means no, don't give in. And generally I think her parenting advice is just bad. The first two there are definitely numerous exceptions to when it's beneficial to depart from the schedule as well as just let things go. And don't give in is definitely terrible advice. In fact, most parenting experts will advise you to really pick your battles, that you should only come down hard on the important stuff, and that it's best to let most things go for happy, well-adjusted children and a peaceful family. In other words, you give in a whole awful lot. I'm reminded again of GollyGee, who, in an adorable small video within her video tribute, her son David is refusing to sit up for a family photograph, instead preferring to recline against mom's legs with his hands under his head. GollyGee in short order gives up, shaking her head with a bit of a smile. She gave in! Because at the end of the day, does it really matter David didn't sit up this one time? And you can look back on the photograph and video, as we have, and laugh at the little boy's antics, at doing things his way as kids like to do. No tears, no whining, no battles that day in that house. Had GollyGee "stuck to her guns" as Kate advises, that family photo might very well have turned into a horrific battle of wills and spoiled the whole day. And it didn't result in raising a serial killer. David turned out all right, didn't he? (Thanks for stopping by to say hello, David!) GollyGee was a good mama. Kate is not.
I'm kind of surprised they show the clip of Collin distraught in the furniture store, begging to be changed, because that was surely one of Kate's most evil moments. She's chatting away on the couch as if her behavior in that store that day was normal.
I think the TLCgo app is showing way too many commercials. They just showed ten in a row, followed a few minutes later by seven! I pay for TLC through my cable company, it's not like I'm getting this for free. A paying customer shouldn't have to sit through excessive advertising.
Kate's prattling on about how she taught all the kids to cook. Fascinating. A producer then asks Mady who taught her to cook and she says Kate actually taught Cara, and then Cara taught Mady. Heh. That struck me as kind of funny, though I'm not sure it was a totally fair comment. Who knows who taught her, but I wouldn't put it past Kate to grossly exaggerate how much time she's spent working with the children to teach them to cook and playing the part of the loving attentive mother. Probably not as much as she wants us to believe.
Kate again proves that she doesn't understand child development at all, despite nursing school, when she talks about their eating habits and how the children are trying to "challenge" her with their picky eating. It's not all about you, you cow! Good lord. Picky eating is a completely normal stage of child development and has far more to do with kids genuinely having very sensitive taste buds that don't adjust easily to the plethora of foods that adults easily love and chow down on. In fact a British study found that a child's food likes are almost 75 percent based on genetics. That means it leaves only a small percentage to be determined by a parent pushing it down their throat until they give in and eat it. Kate's so freaking stupid. Most kids grow out of pickiness naturally, as long as they are getting enough variety of nutrients it's just not something to stress about. I woke up one day and loved the things I hated as a kid--salads, feta, coffee, Chinese food, hummus, limes, cheesecake, sweet potatoes, Brussel sprouts, zucchini, carbonated drinks, and lots of other foods kids will often avoid. Love them now! Nobody did anything to push them on me, I just started eating them because my taste buds developed into adult ones.
Kate really is rich talking about how much she struggles with sibling rivalry. Good grief, I can rattle off dozens of examples of both her handling sibling rivalry terribly or even outright encouraging such rivalry. For starters, when you blatantly play favorites with your children, sibling rivalry is inevitable.
Mady says twice that her younger siblings are brats, and there's a perfect example of the kind of completely unacceptable behavior towards one's siblings Kate has allowed and encouraged. It is not acceptable to name-call your siblings with such cruel and nasty names.
The producer tries to get Mady and Cara to say what a hard job of it Kate has raising eight kids, and they actually won't really go there. Mady says in actuality they all make it a lot easier for her. Heh. Well, I like that comment. For all Kate's whining and playing martyr about raising these kids, the kids do their best to help her. And I think that is a fair comment, we've seen plenty examples of the children pitching in and overall cooperating to prove they aren't total nightmares and can be very helpful when it comes to their care. The boys especially seem super easy to me. There's a huge difference between raising a child who is helpful and cooperative versus one who is constantly resisting you (even if it's due to things out of their control like special needs).
Kate gets lots of emails from strangers saying they're worried Mady is mean. Really?! This makes Mady laugh. How does that email go exactly? "Dear Kate, your daughter Mady is mean and I'm concerned. God bless"? Sounds like something GollyGee would have had the nerve to do! Heh! Also, I know I keep talking about GollyGee, but there's a lot about this episode that brings her to mind, and one of them is I think I understand much better now after her death and getting to know better who she was in her private life, why the kids meant so much to her. And I think so much of it had to do with her truly relating to raising three boys. She raised three boys, she did it right, Kate was doing it oh so wrong, and that really bothered her because she knew how much better their mom could have done by those boys. She would never toot her own horn about what kind of mother she was, but we know now she was amazing.
I catch a little glimpse of Collin at the card making station. He looks fine, even politely asking a sibling to hand him a pen and setting the table perfectly, explaining he "observed" how to do that in a restaurant. Aw. He's so cute. This is the kid who needed to be locked up for years? Was this the last episode where we really heard from him? Also he didn't learn how to set a table from his mother? Maybe this is because she eats all her meals standing at the counter.
Kate has a theory and I fall asleep. What the hell is a "girl mom"? She had girls first and so that made her a girl's mom? I really have no clue what she is talking about. Her theories are about as useful as those of the Flat Earth Society.
Oh I see this was just an opportunity to slam the boys for being normal little kids and to make a host of stereotypical and exaggerated comments about the girls. You can guess that the sum of it is the boys don't understand anything at all and all the girls do is have drama. As I have proposed many times, it is women themselves who often set women and girls back the most, and this is but one example of a woman, one who is semi-famous and has a bit of a platform to boot, using terribly exaggerated and untrue stereotypes that girls are all emotional fluttering basket cases who can barely make it through the day without a meltdown worthy of a truck of ice on a 100 degree day. Maybe if Kate did some work as a mother for once to help them better regulate and cope with their emotions, you wouldn't have so much drama. Children need to be taught how to handle intense emotions everyone will feel boys and girls alike, just as much as they need science and math. Make no mistake little girls watch this show, and it is disappointing they have to hear Kate say these things. I hope their mothers are around to set things straight.
I don't much like her comments about the boys, either. If boys are stupid with glazed over eyes all the time, does that mean they don't hold any responsibility for their actions, like when they go too far with a girl who doesn't want to? After all they're just a stupid boy. One could take it there.
Kate gives some cliche advice about doing your best that nobody cares to listen to. Also, I think doing your best is a cop out, because only you the person really knows for sure what your best is, so you can use it as a crutch to do half-ass work all the time because after all, that's just my best!
The kids and Kate do some terrible acting pretending that this all wasn't arranged by producers as the kids finish breakfast and Kate pretends she's surprised and impressed and goes out to eat her pancakes and read her card.
Collin made an incredibly creative card in which you actually can remove the heart from the center of it to hold it. That's really good, Collin! At least Kate takes the time to read each card individually and spend a moment with each child telling them how much she enjoyed the card. They need much more individual time with their parents.
Why is Kate still talking??? Eat your breakfast, bitch!
Shockingly, Kate admits it's not the kids' fault she has so much to do. Of course it's not. They didn't ask her to trick the fertility doctors into having a fuckety billion kids at once. So STFU already.
Oh, I hate her guts. While the kids are cleaning up without complaint, Kate has to say, "who are these children?" Oh shut up! There are piles of tapes in the archives of these kids helping out and working hard. Just stop it.
Ha, the bird is on Kate's shoulder, totally channeling Tanya Harding's stage mother. Nice. From now on this bitch's nickname is Lavonna any time she has that bird. It's just such a great villain name anyway isn't it? Lavonna Golden!
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Ick, they made a nice table for Kate to eat at with tablecloth and all, but instead she eats on the nice couch. I think that's gross. All that syrup and crumbs. She's a slob. And also they made the trouble to put a table together for her, so sit at it!
Gross! The kids are massaging her feet. Yuck. And look up grooming behavior, because it often starts as massages and other gone-too-far touching. I'm not saying Kate would groom her kids, I don't see any evidence of that, but it's still gross to engage in grooming behavior even though you're not really trying to groom them.
Woo-hoo, a clip from the book signing I attended in Santa Monica! I think that will always be my favorite Gosselin memory. I arrived directly from work and Kate was sandwiched in between two narrow bookshelves and WTF? I somehow immediately ran into a Radar online reporter who was maybe about my age, we somehow immediately hit it off which was fun, and she explained that Kate was embarrassed by the low turnout so thought moving her in between the shelves would help. I see, so like, if you move yourself into a tiny house and invite some friends over to it it will make it seem like you have a lot more friends. Good thinking actually. I logged onto realitytvkids to "livestream" from the event and so the night began with a bang!
Why is Kate talking about what the haters say about her? Nobody was talking about that. I thought we were talking about breakfast! Again, she insists she's just doing her best--a cop out, see?
Nobody does everything right so cut me a break! she insists. Um, Kate, nobody suggested you must "do everything right" whatever that means. I hate when she misstates what the criticism is then answers the misstatements. It's called strawman-ing, and it's a cheap debate tactic and she knows damn well she's doing it. Aw, did the book signing bring up bad memories? Poor thing.
Kate wouldn't ask for eight different kids. That's kind of a weird thought to have. Except Collin. She would like to return Collin. I know it's maybe thirteen years and six months past the warranty period, but could they pretty please make an exception for her? She'll accept store credit!
It's kind of irritating to hear the brainwashed kids talking about all the good things about Kate she has drilled into them she does for them, but when you think about it, it's probably a really good thing they are able to see the positives of Kate. Some of them apparently already and soon more of them are really going to have problems with this woman and the choices she made for them (filming, Jon, the physical abuse), but in order to work through all those issues and have a rebuilding point with Kate and develop some trust, they're also going to need to be able to find some of the positives about her. For better or worse she is their mother to deal with, and cutting her out of their lives is always a method of last resort. So, for those who want to keep her on board as their mother, they have to work with what they have and what they do have is a mother who growing up let them have a lot of pets they love, on some level cares for them and on some level loves them. It's a start.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 627 of 627 Newer› Newest»Sad but true (#1), sheesh, these Duggar girls have really left their aw-shucks humble Christian lifestyles behind. This woman is raising 2 small children, and neither she nor her husband has a job. How can she shill some box of unnecessary products you have to buy 4 times a year? I could understand if it was something for her kids, but this seems really frivolous for someone on a tight budget.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 2
Well, she's not paying for it. I read somewhere that if people use her code, she'll get $8 per box ordered and the free stuff 4x a year. If that's true, just 250 of her 1.6mm (!) IG followers would "earn" her $8K in a year. Since this little family has no visible means of support at the moment, that would be pretty significant.
OTOH, I don't think her family's demographic (which is on the wrong side of age 45) is going to support much of this sort of product. It would be nice to think that these girls are becoming more independent and worldly, but I think she's doing this out of bare necessity, not choice. She didn't look exactly comfortable in the photo she posted.
The FabFitFun box is a sponsored thing to make money--just like all the celebs promoting that Teami stuff. They get free boxes and each has their own promo code, and I'm guessing the company pays them for each order using their promo code. It's cheap advertising for the company and a way for a D-lister to make a little cash. Kate even did it--just once, of course. She's still too lazy to put any kind of sustained effort into anything. Too bad--it sure looks like her reality TV career is fizzling, and she could be using this time to set herself up in some kind of business venture.
Sad but true (#2), yeah, I realize she's not paying for the product, but there should be some credibility behind what you're endorsing. There is nothing about her that says "I like to pamper myself, and you should pamper yourself, too!" That's why I thought a kid-based product would be an easier sell and a better fit for the Duggar, heaven help us, "brand."
And then there's Katie Irene, whose mentality is, "I like to pamper myself, and I think YOU should pamper ME, too!"
FlimsyFlamsy said... 5
Oh yeah, she definitely doesn't have the right image for that sort of product. She has been seen hawking children's books and T-shirts on IG, although she seems to have left the "ad" designation off those. In this one, the "Paid partnership with X" is right at the top of the photo, under her name.
I wonder if Kate is regretting her own lack of ambition. Only 3 episodes of K+8 have aired in the last year and a half, and there's no sign of the new dating show airing yet. If she's having to dip into savings now, that would infuriate her. I always wondered if she took money from the kids' trusts, thinking she would have plenty of time to put it back before they were grown. But now the twins will be legal adults in a few weeks, and they should have some visibility where their money is concerned. The tups aren't far off, either. She can't force the twins to film, she can't take the lion's share of the profits while forcing them to split 15% of the pay with their 6 siblings, she can't sign contracts for them--or even dictate what they are entitled to in those contracts. That is, IF they chose to film, and IF TLC would even be interested in continued filming. 2 kids now gone (H and C), and the twins becoming adults and having actual rights--her worst nightmare has come true. She was in charge, but that did change. Whatever will she do now?
PEOPLE has put out a story in response to the RadarOnline article, claiming that Kate still "maintains full custody of her 8 kids, despite Jon's claims". Naturally, PEOPLE doesn't mention that BOTH Jon and Hannah confirmed Hannah's living situation on IG. Jon wisely didn't return PEOPLE's request for comment. I guess now that RadarOnline (finally) jumped on the story, it was time for Kate to "set the record straight" yet again.
PEOPLE has put out a story in response to the RadarOnline article, claiming that Kate still "maintains full custody of her 8 kids, despite Jon's claims". Naturally, PEOPLE doesn't mention that BOTH Jon and Hannah confirmed Hannah's living situation on IG.
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You know I have a lot more sympathy for Hannah wanting to speak her mind on social media when her mother turns right around, phones up Coyne and tells her to publish that Kate still has custody. She won’t stop. She’ll never stop. And Hannah has had enough.
What an enormous piece of crap she is. Perhaps the paperwork hasn't been signed, or perhaps she's maintaining "legal" or "primary" custody, whatever the court wants to call it, but K8 no longer has "physical" custody, and that's been made pretty clear. Leave it to People to deny the obvious. I can only imagine what H would do if forced to return to Mommy Manor.
What an enormous piece of crap she is. Perhaps the paperwork hasn't been signed, or perhaps she's maintaining "legal" or "primary" custody, whatever the court wants to call it, but K8 no longer has "physical" custody,
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That’s probably what she is doing, splitting hairs because it’s not final for 60 days or whatever the wait is in PA.
I should check the docket again.
The question is why does she feel the need to call Hannah a liar? Someone should tell people Hannah said this multiple times. Are they saying she’s lying too? A child?
Sadly Jon’s right, Hannah’s the smart one.
I was so pissed when I just saw this article in People! Also, other media are picking up on the story and posting it to. Poor Hannah!
I refuse to give People any views for the story about custody, but I'd be willing to bet they brought up the years-old story about M&C not seeing Jon and made a plug for Kate's dating show. Am I right?
Layla said... 13
I refuse to give People any views for the story about custody, but I'd be willing to bet they brought up the years-old story about M&C not seeing Jon and made a plug for Kate's dating show. Am I right?
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Yes, of course, what has now become their "traditional" quote about dad from M&C, I swear it's appeared in every article about any Gosselin since they first published it 2 years ago. That magazine has totally turned into a PR tool, and not a very clever one at that.
Of course that's it, TFW got on the blower to Coyne and pleaded for People to publish that she has main custody of all eight, despite the fact that Hannah is living with Jon and Collin is elsewhere. No comments yet on People, but this misleading statement from People/TFW will only cause those who have been following Jon and Hannah, who know that Hannah is living with her father full time, to respond and thereby create another People article and on and on. Fortunate for Hannah that she is with Jon and away from her nightmare mother who refuses to see the reality of the situation.
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But a source with knowledge of the situation tells PEOPLE that Kate, 41, “maintains full custody of all eight of her kids.”
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Either the “source” doesn’t know TFW’s age or people magazine doesn’t fact check. Since we know they don’t fact check all that we’ll I don’t put much credence in their story. Both Jon and Hannah have stated that she lives with him and I believe them. The proof is in the pictures (Jon and Hannah have published a lot while TFW has published maybe two without showing faces) AND I don’t think Hannah would be over at her BFF’s all the time if she was living at the compound.
"I'd be willing to bet they brought up the years-old story about M&C not seeing Jon"
Oh, yeah. That old song and dance was there.
I know some of us have had doubts about Hannah on social media, but she's got to have some kind of outlet to counteract Kate's lies. Jon and Hannah know Kate has access to a major magazine so they have to have social media to set the record straight. Kate's not going to tell the whole story or the truth.
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People no longer posts comments on the articles they put up on their site. They post the articles on their FB page, and that's where people go to vent. The most common reaction so far is, WHY are you talking about her again?
I just wish there was some way that Jon could definitely set the record straight, that there would be no question he has custody of Hannah now.
I'm guessing Kate wants it out there before her show airs, if it ever airs. But it makes her look good if people still think she has custody of Hannah.
Jon has custody of Hannah for sure. First, there's no way Kate would let H live with Jon if she had any say in the matter. And--she's reportedly suing Jon because he took her to court for the change in custody. Why would she sue him for taking her to court over custody--then give him the child he took her to court to get--and then sue him for taking that child? And lastly, she knows she can't really pull off K+8 with two of the kids gone. I saw the story on the Daily Mail site, and it quotes the "source close to Kate". Do we believe Jon and H's own words, or some nameless source? I believe Hannah.
I think K8's just trolling for some publicity, frankly. She's gotta get some kind of buzz going before her final frontier. She's posted very little on IG all summer (and nothing of interest) and nothing at all on Twitter. This is pretty much the only thing she's got to get some attention, since she's not willing to talk about K8 + D8.
I'm sure I won't be the first to notice that TFW's tale of woe is on the Daily Mail website....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6084299/Kate-Gosselin-maintains-custody-eight-children-despite-ex-husband-Jons-claims.html
I think Kate is trying to control the narrative. She wants it to look like she is allowing Hannah to live with John out of the goodness of her own heart. It’s nothing more than PR damage control.
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But a source with knowledge of the situation tells PEOPLE that Kate, 41, “maintains full custody of all eight of her kids."
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I see Kate is still "de-aging".
Kate took to PEOPLE MAGAZINE to call her own daughter, age 14, a liar.
Let that sink in.
There is proof Jon has Hannah but simply deducing it from the docket. Anonymous, we DO have access to the docket or didnt you read our last post? It's here:
https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/AppellateCourtReport.ashx?docketNumber=767+MDA+2018
And right here in plain English on the docket is the following statement: "June 4, 2018
Comment:
Per Curiam Appellant, K.I.G., defendant below, filed a notice of appeal from the final
custody order entered April 5, 2018. Appellant's notice of appeal was docketed below on May 8, 2018."
The custody order was made April 5, and Kate's appeal was denied July 24. It's OVER, Kate, you big fat liar. Now if Kate has full custody, what in the world is she appealing as to custody? There is nothing to appeal when the kid is all yours. Use your head, anonymous.
How does Kate continue to think this nasty vindictive behaviour is going to help her in the future. Why does she need to destroy Jon? I know nobody can get inside her head and work this out (who would want to) and it's all got to do with control, but this woman honestly doesn't seem human.
I think Hannah will be ok. She's shown courage, maturity and resilience and is now, with Jon's love and guidance, hopefully on the road to healing. Strangely I also think Collin will be ok, now he's away from her and if he can transition to live with Jon. Even though it could take years of therapy to make sense of his childhood and the trauma inflicted by his mother and filming if he can do it from a safe place he'll hopefully be ok.
I hope the other kids can find a way to heal in the future but doesn't seem possibleas long as they're under her emotional and physical control
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