But first, before the oh-so-monumental episode in which like every other 40-year-old-woman before her, Kate turns 40, TLC shows a whopping three-hour recap of the entire last ten years of the show, narrated by a male voice. Three hours! I watched the whole thing for the recap, and not ten seconds of this massive beast was at all meaningful or necessary. The narrator sounds like maybe that Extreme Couponing guy. I keep waiting for him to announce, "Kate's amassed a four-walled, floor to ceiling stockpile worth over $30,000 dollars!"
Turns out this truly is a look-back, with absolutely nothing new, not even a new couch interview from Kate, which I guess we should be grateful for. All her yammering on explaining away and re-writing history during clip shows gets really old. Just like Kate, old! Of course a lot of the old clips they show I didn’t really much remember it's been so long, so I’ll just highlight a few that stood out, especially knowing what we know now.
- Collin was one of the last babies to go home from the hospital, along with Joel. This is significant to me for two reasons. One is that he and Joel had the toughest time getting going when they were premies, which can be a risk factor a child will develop special needs. The other is that Collin certainly lost out on crucial bonding time with his parents the other children were getting, which can also be a risk factor for special needs. As it is, by virtue of there being six babies I think they were all at risk for not getting enough bonding time with their parents even if their parents were perfect. Interestingly enough, Kate describes Collin as laid back, and the biggest child. I always saw him as generally laid back anytime we've seen him on film, so the idea ole Kate here couldn't handle him in the family home was always hard to believe.
- Kate's terrible makeup job back in the day, yeesh. That blush makes her look like a domestic violence victim. She often doesn't even have it placed on her cheeks evenly, channeling Tom Hanks from toward the end of Philadelphia.
- The mind games Kate played with toddlers surely has to have affected them later. For instance, allowing them to take a piece of chocolate from a park worker, then immediately turning around and forcing them to give the chocolate to her, Kate, to be eaten later because it will melt. A toddler doesn't understand that! That's way too complicated for them! Give me back the chocolate now for safe keeping to eat later because it will melt in your hand now? That's like Harvard for a toddler. If you must do this take-back to such a young child, don't give them the chocolate in the first place, take it directly from the worker yourself for safe keeping for later. At least then the chocolate won't have to be taken from the toddler after they actually got to hold it for a moment. Naturally a few of the toddlers end up hysterical over this. Sigh, these little ones know it's no guarantee they're seeing that treat ever again.
- It's nice that Jon is shown a lot during the old clips, as he was as involved with these kids as Kate and arguably much more involved. There is a sweet moment where he teases Cara after her cooking class, warmly placing his hand on her shoulder and telling her, "You didn't save me some cake? What kind of chef are you?" Cara looks up at him with such a loving little grin. These kids adored their dad and he them, and Kate sabotaged that special relationship, and that's a fact.
- Kate's trip to I think Wyoming with the three boys is the only time in the history of the show I can remember her doing something with just the three boys. If someone can remember any other time I'd love to know. It's embarrassing and pathetic that horse trainers have to give her lengthy and specific instructions to please not scream on or around the horses as it freaks them out. Kate laughs this all off of course, which makes me mad. A close family friend of ours was killed in 2004 when a horse got spooked for unknown reasons and kicked her neck (she was bending down to clean its hoof). It's not funny, Kate. Horses are gentle animals but huge and skittish, which means many people have been hurt or killed by horses who, though they weren't trying to hurt anyone, got freaked out over something and accidentally did so. Interestingly enough, there was a successful campaign from many folks to plead with the barn to not put the horse down over my friend's death, and they didn't. Us family and friends generally supported that decision and still do. He wasn't trying to hurt her and she wouldn't have wanted him killed over this. To top this all off Kate whizzes around on an ATV without a helmet. Kate's just an idiot and very, very oblivious.
- Now here's some really interesting insight into how Kate handled a child who has special needs. She remarks that Collin, and Hannah, like to play by themselves. How interesting that the two independent (and perhaps more free-thinking) children are the first two to leave Kate. She then laughs as she remarks that she doesn't understand when the children complain they have no one to play with. A sibling is a wonderful and special relationship but the children are craving friendships and other social interaction with peers outside the family. She doesn't get it, but it's actually not good enough to simply stick a sibling in front of a kid and tell them to go play and expect that to meet all their social needs. These kind of complaints from the kids suggest they in fact were not getting enough social interaction outside the family unit and were craving more of it. It suggests Kate was lazy about their social development, and ignorant, and again, this can contribute to a child developing special needs.
- The boys swim trunks are at least three sizes too large while the girls' suits fit them perfectly. Not only do they look ridiculous and pathetic, but cheaping out on swim clothes can be dangerous. All that extra fabric can make it harder for the child to float and swim. Get them trunks that fit for god sakes, you cow.
- Don't you just want to strangle Kate and her terrible command of the English language? Why is it "ironic" that the show arranged for a trip to Alaska and Alaska is on their wish list of places to go? That's not what irony means! Irony does not mean a coincidence!
- I've since been to Australia myself in 2015, including the Australia Zoo, and so seeing the footage now of the Gosselin trip there I have a pretty neat context for everything. What really stood out to me was the family's trip occurred during a persistent drizzle. Having been there I know that zoo is so exposed, with long, long open walks between exhibits. That's good, that means the animals are given lots of space in their enclosures. But it sure sounds like a miserable trip in the rain. I don't like zoos in general, but for what it was I found the whole thing to be clean, laid out well, and very appealing. Here's a photo I took of one of the kangaroos in the enclosure. They really do let you get right up close and pet and feed them just like Steve Irwin did.
And here's the incredible, gorgeous beach we stayed at near the zoo called Dicky Beach. That's an old shipwreck that was there that they've since removed and placed in a museum. When people ask was Australia worth it, I tell them well it's a nice place but it's an awful lot of money for an American to spend to go so far to see some exotic animals in their natural habitat. I was working there, so I was very, very fortunate to have my expenses covered. But, I will say if you like beaches, go. The beaches are just fantastic, as you can see. I don't think the Gosselin episode in Australia really captured the beauty whatsoever that I saw on that continent.
- My God, I forgot this comment from the Mother's Day episode but Kate says she always is asking herself why she was "chosen" to have twins and sextuplets. LMAO, she's coo-coo! She's not an Israelite wandering in the desert. She went to a fertility doctor and got too many eggs implanted and they almost all fertilized. No "choosing" involved other than her own very questionable choices when it comes to her own reproduction. What is wrong with this woman? Also I don't believe a doctor told her she would never have kids. I think she's Kate being dramatic. That is an extremely rare thing to say to a woman nowadays, especially a woman only in her 20's. Basically you're only told that if you have no uterus. The technology is so good now and has been for awhile that statistics show most woman have a very, very high likelihood of having a biological child if they want to, though you may need fertility treatments.
And that wraps up the long and pointless recap show. Good news is, Kate has been getting even older as we suffered through this. Now onto the big 4-0!
Coming up, the family is going to Mexico for Kate's 40th. I predict a lot of offensive Mexican stereotypes ahead. Mady says Kate is constantly talking about how she's 40 now and it gets annoying. Mady's right, Kate fixates. Whatever it is on her little pea brain at the moment, it's all she wants to talk about. Whether it's her divorce, or dating, or organic food, or running, or turning 40, she goes through these cycles where there's nothing else playing but that one track. It's annoying enough when you're just watching her yammering on TV or social media, it must be hell to live with.
Deanna and Andrea are over at the house putting up badly clashing decorations. Haven't seen those two young ladies in awhile have we?! Do Deanna and Andrea not understand how to twist two steamers together? It looks like a first grader did this job, it's terrible. Maybe they don't care.
Kate was "invited" by Generations resorts in Mexico to spend three days and nights there and she "jumped at the chance." Ha, I bet that heifer did. The days of a resort offering her a free stay are probably long gone now, but it's true that many resorts do do this for celebrities. It's worth it to them to get some paparazzi photos taken at their resort and develop a reputation for hosting celebs, almost free publicity. They even would put offers like these in Oscar gift bags. You have to pay the taxes on the stay and figure out how to get yourself there, but Kate could probably swing it so production covers that. In fact I'm wondering if this offer wasn't really exclusive to her at all but just something found in a swag bag she picked up somewhere. The most shocking thing I discovered working for a celeb is that the richer you are, the more freebies you get. It can get to the point where half your expenses are freebies or heavily discounted. At the time, iPods were the big freebie thing, and celeb had amassed about six of them in the span of as many months. It was insane, especially for someone like me from a little town back east who at the time had never even known someone who had an iPod much less so many you couldn't even hold them all at once.
In any case, bring on the Mexican stereotypes! They have a bunch of plastic sombreros out everywhere and they're setting the table with a Mexican theme which I guess in Kate's head means sombreros and lots of clashing bright colors. Right on the money.
Kate tells the kids this is a send-off party for she and Deanna to go to Mexico alone. So, you tell little kids you're going to leave them again with sitters for days on end while you go off and have all the fun in another country, and this is funny? There really is something wrong with this woman. Sure enough, Hannah is downright mad Kate won't be there when she wakes up for school, and Leah bursts into tears! My god, will Kate end the prank already now that children are sobbing? (She won't. She blows this off as the kids just being dramatic teenagers. Right, a kid who would prefer their mom be around for their lives in dramatic. Flipping tool.) What is her obsession with tricking or surprising the kids about trips? Why not just tell them from the beginning they're going and give them some time to build up some fun excitement about it? She prefers sobs and anger to tickled as pink kids who are thrilled for weeks on end leading up to the trip? Again, something is wrong with her. It's no surprise a kid like Hannah realized she prefers to live with Jon. Eventually you get tired of the emotional manipulation.
We have talked a ton on this blog about Kate's mental state and the terribly nasty things she does to others, including her own children. As Concerned Aussie just posted recently, "She's never seemed to have any foresight in her relentless pursuit of revenge and the limelight and her mental deterioration has been evident over the last few seasons. Now though, I think it's clear she really is evil, an it's getting harder for her to hide it."
All I would say to that is it's clear she was evil a long time ago and this little prank she played on her own children proves it.
Leah lets slip on the couch that Kate is never around and here she is about to take off again, and I'm sure that's just about true around this time period. This was Kate's heyday when she really was traveling the country, spending a heck of a lot of time in New York getting her hair and nails done, and going off to L.A. for whatever and all that nonsense. It is obviously totally believable to the kids she would take off on them again to another country in the middle of the school year, and that speaks volumes. Kate deserves that comment slipping from Leah. Had she never played this cruel prank on the poor kids, Leah never would have let slip her mother is not around. Bam.
It doesn't surprise me someone like Kate is solely focused on the fact that she is now 40 and single instead of in her 30's and single, because she's one of those insecure and old-fashioned women who still thinks a woman's self worth is defined by her relationship. I haven't heard her say a single positive thing about this milestone birthday, what a drag she is to listen to. Mady says she needs to shut up and this is all about Kate knowing darn well she doesn't look 40 but loving to tell everyone she is 40 for that very reason, and no truer words were said. Mady's got her pegged. Kate's one of those women who gets herself all skinny and toned and dolled out in a beautiful outfit for some fun event and then tells everyone she is fat and ugly and waits for the compliments to flow. Yep. I kind of think Kate does actually look all of 40, she looks exactly her age, but that's not the point. The point is that Mady is right, Kate doesn't think she looks 40 and loves to show this off.
Kate gradually seems to realize this prank is not funny, especially after some of the kids have stormed off to their rooms to sob. Um, so anyone else could have understood this was a bad idea before she ever even started. Why didn't Deanna tell her this was a bad idea, or Andrea? Are they this much in Kate's back pocket? So Kate tells them the truth and the kids are happy but the emotional damage is done.
Lol, the terribly strung streamers in the back as Kate lies and said it was never a thought in her mind to not bring the kids on this her second trip to Mexico. Right, just like the first time she went to Mexico in 2010 with Steve for "work" and didn't bring the kids.
I'm really realizing now how terrible Kate is as describing things, which probably plays a huge role in why she's never really made it on any kind of spin-off like a cooking show where you really do have to be able to speak. The extent of her description of the outright gorgeous Mexican resort right on the sparkling clear aqua water is, wait for it.... "oh my gosh." I'm not kidding.
It looks like they're heading straight from the airport shuttle to go snorkel with turtles. That's an amazing activity, but did they at least get a nap and some food or anything first? This can't have been an easy travel day.
Deanna, who is only slightly better at describing things than Kate, says they saw a beautiful corral reef. Wait, what? Why didn't they show that on film? I only saw a few turtles. Stupid.
The kids hit up a marketplace that is all just touristy junk, which unfortunately, is on every corner in Mexico. You have to go pretty far off the beaten path to get yourself some really great authentic finds, and that's not advisable for Americans to really do right now. Oh, this is a shopping trip for Kate's birthday present? I thought this was for the kids. Figures. At only 200 pesos each to spend, some of the kids are struggling to buy what they really want for Kate. Poor Collin looks really bummed he can't afford the 550 pesos bear figurine he wants to get. Has it occurred to the kids if they pooled their money they could get Kate something really fantastic? Apparently not. Maybe Deanna or Andrea could help them by suggesting this? Don't hold your breath. The twins finally figure it out and pool their money with one of the younger girls.
Collin is somehow able to negotiate getting the bear he wants for a flat 200 pesos, and he's blown away with gratitude. "Thank you, thank you, oh my god," sweet little Collin says. Awww. Yeah, stay tuned on this one.
Also, if something is listed for 550 pesos and you're willing to chop off a whopping 350 pesos from the sticker price (about 18 bucks), doesn't that suggest this is all really just junk meant to bilk tourists for whatever money they have in their pocket? Sigh. I'm glad to see the kids happy to shop, but I wish someone was teaching them how to be more discerning while traveling, find the good stuff, the gems, and avoid cheap-o tourist traps like these on vacations.
The Mayan ruins wouldn't let them film for reasons nobody explains. Well boo-hoo! I take great joy in this for some reason. Screw this show and their entitlement thinking they can just go wherever and film whatever they like. They have to film this excursion on their iphones, which really seems like breaking the rules if they intend to use the iphone footage on their show anyway, which they do. Can Mexico sue?
Is this all still the same day, their first day off their flight? I'm not familiar with this place. Is the market, sea turtles and Mayan ruins all in the same vicinity? This trip looks just exhausting so far.
The next day it's Mud Buggy driving on ATVs. Looks just awesome, and just expensive. You can predict Kate doesn't enjoy any of this at all and complains the whole way. If Deanna is slightly more descriptive than Kate, the kids are slightly more descriptive than Deanna: It was a dirt road, and muddy.
Andrea is an awesome nanny. She is having fun, engaging the kids, and driving through the biggest puddles. It's criminal she doesn't seem to be around anymore. Now that's what a nanny should be: fun, funny, adventurous, encouraging. See Tiggy Legge-Burke, the patron saint of modern nannies. The little princes put on their wellies and grabbed their fishing rods under her watch, spending countless hours along the river at the nanny's home in Wales. No doubt she played a huge role in how well-adjusted they turned out after the tragedy of their mother's death and their unusual upbringing. Tiggy didn't much approve of things like movies and tennis, she thought the boys were better off doing something that would make them muddy, and she was right. She had moved on before Diana's death clearly in part because Diana didn't like her and it was causing too much conflict, but when Diana died, it was Tiggy Charles called, asking her to come back and help him with the boys. And she did exactly that for a couple more years until about the time William graduated from high school. Her son was in William's wedding years later.
Despite the tension between her and Princess Diana, I think Diana would have been grateful for the love and support and fun Tiggy gave the boys during terribly sad times.
I really don't like how slow Kate is driving and how she says she doesn't want to drive recklessly. Even some guy who works there complains. I'm sure the cars and track are made such that it's almost impossible to do anything that would hurt you. Good grief, she's one big killjoy as per the usual. Kate finally gets it together and drives like a real person, flying through the mud and making Cara happy. Kate can stop with the timid I'm such a safe driver act because we know for a fact she's such a lead-foot on the roads she once amassed four speeding tickets in two years, one for hitting almost 90 mph! God, her constant act is obnoxious and no one believes it.
After a whirlwind day yesterday, apparently the racetrack is all they did today because suddenly it's nighttime and Kate's ditched the kids and gone out on the town with Deanna. Deanna is 40, too? Geez, she acts like she's all of 26 and, like, uh, ya know, a millennial. Coulda fooled me. Seems like by 40 you would have learned how to twirl two streamers together nicely or at least know how to look up how to do it. Why is Deanna acting like by age 40 you're basically invisible as a woman and must retire yourself to the attic to knit and that she's such a strong and powerful feminist she will be able to overcome all this? So dramatic, self-fulfilling, and in my view a pretty inaccurate description of the state of women in the world, unless you're in Hollywood (even then, that's getting better).
They head to Sur Steakhouse, and my first thought was you've got to be kidding me, they're going to Lisa Vanderpump's restaurant, a British woman? But turns out Sur Playa del Carmen isn't associated with Lisa at all and is supposedly owned by locals.
Some interesting truth comes out that Kate actually initially planned this whole trip with just Deanna, no kids. Just like her prank on the kids. Wait, I thought she wouldn't dream of going on this trip without the kids. Heh. In fact that's not true, per her own admission she sure did dream it, and only planned for the kids to come later as an afterthought. More than likely, because production wanted to make an episode. Tool, and liar.
Deanna goes into some meandering diatribe about how she used to think she and Kate needed a man in their life (like, to share, or they each get a man?), then they start trolling the venue for available hunks, and I think Deanna's a terrible role model for Kate's kids and wouldn't want her around any kids at all much less these vulnerable kids who are going to be messed up enough from Kate.
Kate's goals are for the kids to grow up and be best friends with each other. Well, when you ostracize certain ones and call them liars, that's unlikely, Kate.
I cannot imagine eating an entire dinner out with these two dimwits. What a mind-numbing experience. Their stupid conversation consists of dating, being defensive about dating and all their other lame choices that they think were good ones that in fact has left them both single and alone, yammering on about a divorce that was five years ago, patting themselves on the back for what wonderful strong women they are apparently seeing no irony in all the man trolling they did all night, and drinking overpriced fruity drinks with leaves in them. When Kate is with Deanna she forgets she has eight kids? Huh? She would like to forget this? Why? She's unbelievable. I can see enjoying a night out not having to parent eight kids constantly, but to forget you even have them is kind of a weird thought.
Can I say something about being single and alone? I've been there and done that, I did it for a long time well into my thirties, and it was fine, it was something I needed to go through before I could give myself fully to a man and be the best that I could be as a woman. But around about the time I was ready to find my forever relationship and stop with this dating crap, I found it very detrimental to be around other single women. Toxic even, especially when those women were bitter and angry about being alone and single. It would make me bitter and angry, and I knew I'd never find someone in that state of mind. No, I needed to be around women who had found their other half, who knew how to do it and what to look for, and who would be encouraging and give me good advice. I needed role models who were living out what I wanted. I needed women who believed what I wanted was out there. He was. Point being, I think Kate thinks Deanna is a wonderful friend and support to her. But I think Deanna has actually been harmful to Kate, does not give her good advice or encouragement when it comes to relationships, because I realize now Deanna too is forty, single and bitter. You know who would have been better best friends to latch onto all these years during this post-divorce era? Beth and Jodi.
It's Kate's 40th birthday out, Kate calling it one of the most memorable nights in a long time, and it's just her and some dolt of a friend she met not a few years ago who's super bitter and gives bad advice. No family, like sisters, brothers, nieces and nephews, parents. No husband or boyfriend you love, no life-long friends or at least long-term friends, just one co-worker who doesn't even live in the same state. At the end of the day, watching this all is actually quite sad. But as they say, you reap what you sow.
No, TLCgo app, I do not nor will I ever want to watch any show called Dr. Pimple Popper.
They spend forever showing the kids swimming in a giant hamster ball. Then Joel, Aaden, Hannah and Leah go off with Andrea to make cakes in what looks like a kids' baking class place. They never explain why the other kids didn't go but they went to the beach with Kate and Deanna. Weird. You guessed it, boys vs girls competition for best Kate cake. Typical. It's just one birthday for one person, doesn't it make more sense to team up together and make one really great cake for her? Grr.
Later I guess they're having a party with the kids now. In a rare occurrence, Kate compliments both cakes very nicely with specific and sincere comments, and the boys are so proud of themselves, which is sweet. Kate didn't even do anything that makes me want to strangle her like pick a "winner" or something. I'm shocked.
Someone says something about how "Mom" won't want them to eat all this sugar but I can't tell who. Mady, who has a mean streak the size of Texas, says the cakes looked like crap and she couldn't eat them out of self-respect. Where are the adults to make her stop with such cruel and inappropriate comments about her siblings? The cakes were just fine for an 11 year old, but even if they weren't, you don't have to be so nasty. I don't care if she doesn't want to eat it, but there is no reason to be hurtful.
The kids start giving Kate the gifts they bought and Kate is so excited and appreciative until she gets to Collin's bear.
Collin tells her it's supposed to represent himself and Kate, which is adorable, and you can armchair psychology that one pretty easily. In front of Collin, Kate says "Ohhh" as if she doesn't like the gift, and demands to know where the other seven cubs are. Wth? Kate, I doubt Mexico sells a bear figurine with eight bear cubs! She then calls the gift "off the wall" on the couch, which it wasn't at all. No more off the wall than that weirdo turtle container some other kid gave her where the lid is the shell. What are you supposed to put in such a stupid thing? I know many viewers found this segment just downright outrageous, but the editors cut so quickly out of it we're spared Collin's reaction. I hope the little guy wasn't too hurt by all this, but it would be hard not to be. Remember when he found out he scored the bear? "Oh my god, thank you!" I also think when comparing the bear incident to the cruel prank she played on the kids making them think she was leaving them to go to Mexico without them, they are both equally terrible things to say to her children.
The titles of these episodes are usually stupid and uninteresting, but this time I wonder if that "oh" in the Big Four-Oh title was a play on Kate's stupid "ohhh" when she saw Collin's gift. That would be unusually creative of the editors, but who knows.
Kate goes back to being over the top excited over the rest of the children's gifts. Blech.
Kate gives an awkward speech to someone, not sure who, about how she feared her birthday was going to be just another day with the same old same old. Okay, well that's not our problem. If you want a 40th birthday trip to a foreign country, then plan it yourself. Go online to Orbitz and book some flights and hotels. Deanna said she was game for it, and the kids wanted to go. I don't understand why this was TLC's problem or anyone else's problem to figure out. Kate's lucky she got this trip thrown into her lap after being so helpless about the situation. Has anyone read The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, a modern self-help classic? I would almost call it a philosophy book more than anything else, and it's extremely highly regarded. Kate basically violates every single habit all the time, but one of the habits is that you don't just sit around passively letting problems happen to you. You go out there and fix things before they even break. What I'm saying is I have no sympathy for Kate here thinking this birthday was going to be so sad when she could have had something fun planned ages ago. Kate was pathetic and waited for 40 to happen to her, instead of grabbing 40 by the horns and making something great out of it. And I'm highly suspicious the reason she didn't plan anything is she was holding out on TLC to pay, so I also find her trite. (The Seven Habits author also believes strongly in what he calls "abundance mentality," which is what we've talked about so much here, that just because another person is "winning" doesn't mean you're losing, that there is no such thing as a fixed pie or rarely so. Kate disregards that one, too, pretty much constantly, and to her detriment.)
At the end of this all I find it sad that Kate is clearly saying this was the best birthday ever because she got to go on such a fantastic free trip. Sure, fantastic trips are wonderful on birthdays and all don't get me wrong (I went to Italy for my 30th, not for free though), but it is not the trip that makes the birthday, it's doing such an amazing thing with family and friends you love. Even if it's a day trip to the next town, it doesn't matter so much where you go. Kate does not get this, of that I'm sure. She admits she brought the kids along as an afterthought, remember? And now there's just one episode left, another birthday episode this time of the Tups, of the long and painful SEASON THREE of this terrible, terrible show.
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Her original doctor wouldn’t do IUI again because she had conceived the twins so easily. So she went to a new doctor who was “closer” to her complex.
In one of the books on Kate, it was rumored that she had injected herself with additional clomid she’d bought online to ensure she had multiples.
Jill has always been clingy. There were reports she visited him at his old job at Walmart. Somebody from another site posted she must be making sure no women go after him since he's so handsome and charming. lol
The hurricane is hitting the NC coast now. We're inland about an hour from the coast. It should be here tonight and tomorrow.
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The Florence footage seems horrendous so far. I hope any of our readers effected stay safe, and will check in.
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It's damn scary. The space station had to switch to a super-wide lens just to capture the monster hurricane even from 250 miles up. Stay safe everyone.
I have never asked them if anything sexual happened, and I'm not sure I will.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was a sexual reason. I just read the long article in the New Yorker. The man is a swine. Ronan leaves no trough unturned. Great journalism.
My thoughts are with all those in Flo’s path. My brother & his family live in NC and they were evacuated yesterday. They’re now at the Jersey shore enjoying all the good foods that they can’t get in NC (pork roll, Vic’s pizza and WaWa). Stay safe ncgirl.
The hurricane is wreaking havoc in the Carolinas, and headed north. NCgirl, I hope you're okay, and JoyinVa, it's headed your way--I hope you're ready. We thought we were going to get hit here in MD yesterday--it got very dark, and these huge, black/purple clouds rolled in. But there was just a little light rain. One of my sons went down to the Great Falls and took pictures of the clouds hanging low over the falls. Beautiful, but ominous looking.
DMasy, the DC Manion Murders trial has started here. 3 years ago someone (the defendant is Daron Wint) broke into the Savopoulos family's home in DC and killed both parents, their 10-eyar-old son, and their housekeeper. It was a huge story, but the trial hasn't gotten much coverage. Very odd. It caught my interest because it was so close to home. It really hits you when something like that happens and it was right there.
Out of curiosity I went to the Figure 8 Films site to see what they had on the dating show. Answer: nothing. I figured that since they filmed J&K+8 and K+8, they would also be filming Kate Plus Date, but it is not listed under their Shows tab--even though K+8 is still there. You'd think that if they were actively filming it, or if it was an upcoming show, they would have some mention of it on their site, but they don't. Maybe they're not the ones filming it, although it would be strange for someone else would film it after they have been with Kate for so many years. TLC isn't giving updates on the show, and Kate isn't answering questions about it on IG. The situation is starting to remind me of the old Twist of Kate debacle. Big announcement followed by...nothing.
We're doing OK after the hurricane. Lost power a couple of times(had a generator) landline phone and cable. But everything's working now. I'm inland, and the damage is more around the coastal areas. It was the slowest hurricane I remember. We were very lucky.
ncgirl (#9), good to hear from you
Glad your family is in good shape.
did anyone notice Julie Chen signed off as Julie Chen-Moonves last night? (big brother)
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Oh great, another Dottie Sandusky?
Doesn't this woman find it at all disturbing to the integrity of her relationship that he is such a pig?
I wonder if Jill has some issues related to the Josh scandal. She posted a picture of her bible study recently. The verse was on adultery. Also, her mom has posted things about how a women is responsible for her husbands cheating. That’s a lot of emotional baggage to be carrying around.
Andrea
Here’s an article that just popped up on my google feed. It doesn’t say anything new.
https://www.distractify.com/entertainment/2018/09/14/Z2efloN/what-does-kate-gosselin-look-like-now
I wonder if Jill has some issues related to the Josh scandal. She posted a picture of her bible study recently. The verse was on adultery. Also, her mom has posted things about how a women is responsible for her husbands cheating. That’s a lot of emotional baggage to be carrying around.
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I would imagine that this would be very hard for her. Michelle has put blame on Anna, her son Josh’s wife, for HIS cheating. She said something along the lines of “As a wife you are responsible for your husband’s urges” Anyone can make him a sandwich , but only you can fulfill that need”. This is appalling to me that she is blaming her daughter in law, while her son is the one who has sexual problems and molested his own sisters. Anna’s own parents refused to take her in after the scandal, hoping she would “ “work it out” with Josh instead. Anna’s own brother posted on Facebook that he was more than willing to take his sister and all of her kids in. He even was willing to support her till she got back on her own feet.And went so far as to call Josh a disgusting pig. She refused and stayed with the pig,probably thinking HIS behavior was all HER fault. Sadly, Anna and her parents were well aware that Josh was a sexual deviant from the very beginning. Her parents should have not pushed her to get involved with that pig. And who knows,Jill might even feel shame for what happened to her. But might not be allowed to talk about it.
So another Duggar wedding is scheduled for November 3--Jana's twin, John David. Unless JimBob intends to let Jana go, or to start marrying off his boys as teens, this should be it on the wedding front for a while. This'll be the 4th wedding in 18 months. And only the most recent couple (married in June) is still childless at this point.
I truly don't understand why people are attracted to this show, it's just the same thing endlessly recycled.
I truly don't understand why people are attracted to this show, it's just the same thing endlessly recycled.
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Seems like it. I wonder if it's an addiction for some people, like cigarettes. The same drag over and over.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 200
A fair number of my classmates were married by law school and we hardly ever saw their spouses! It was so inappropriate!
We would see them at off campus events designated to bring spouses, friends and family and rarely anywhere else.
He's just such an ignorant fool.
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According to ROL, one of the great bastions of American journalism, bringing outsiders into the law classes is apparently sanctioned by the school. SMH.
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/09/derick-dillard-brought-wife-jill-duggar-to-law-class/
OT--my brother applied to the University of Arkansas School of Law, but elected to attend the University of Kansas School of Law. I remember attending his law school commencement which was picketed by Fred Phelps followers ( of Westboro Baptist Church fame).
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-signs-tlc-shows-have-gone-from-stupid-to-evil/
It's about how bad TLC is.
According to one of the professors Radar tracked down apparently some professors at the school encourage guests so your family or whoever can understand what you're going through at school.
That's stupid. Get out of class, it's a distraction. If wifey can't understand or empathize with someone going through law school without physically being there, she's an idiot.
Also it's not the class itself that is difficult, it's all the material and homework. Frankly you technically don't even really need to go to class as long as you understand the material, but for getting dinged for attendance on your grade. Law school class is a generally stupid exercise in the socratic method where the professor dots around the class every day putting 3-4 students under intense pressure to explain what they understood about the reading that day. Often the students' answers are wrong or bad but the professor doesn't identify what answers are wrong or bad, leaving everyone else confused. Mostly useless but you go.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnpC7l0Harr/?hl=en&taken-by=derickdillard
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-signs-tlc-shows-have-gone-from-stupid-to-evil/
Yup, Jon and TFW came in at #2.
ncgirl said... 18
Thanks for the link! Awesome piece, although it sounds a bit libelous to me, LOL.
NJ Gal, Layla, thanks for your kind thoughts about the hurricane. We were prepped but fortunately hot affected. Florence took a more southern route, so the Outer Banks in the northeastern coastal area did not have any serious damage. and now its the only area of the coast that can be reached safely thru Currituck County.
We have two rental houses in Nags Head, both are fine with no damage and the dunes on the beachfront held up very well!
The torrential rains from Hurricane Florence and its remnants are causing flooding at historic levels in parts of North and South Carolina. It is going to take years for the area to recover.
NC Dept of Transportation is in its second day of advising travelers on Interstate 95 to DETOUR AROUND THE ENTIRE STATE!!! because miles of interstate are under water!
http://tims.ncdot.gov/tims/
ps TFMJG is still boring. Big Brother is heading toward a fabulous final 3! and who woulda thunk the Chenbot would become the story?
JoyInVirginia (#22), glad to see you posting. Is Julie's proper name now officially the ChenMoonvesbot? That's a mouthful!
One of my friends suggested there may be another motive for Julie Chen suddenly discovering her hyphenated last name.....the divorce. She wants it KNOWN this is 50-50 ya'll. I'm not just a Chen. I'm a Chen-Moonves....so pay up.
50 percent of 70 million is a pretty sweet deal.
JoyinVirginia...So good to hear from you and glad all is well.
JoyinVirginia,
Glad to hear you're okay! We didn't really get anything here in MD. It looked pretty ominous one night last week, but we got nothing except a little light rain. Fine with me!
There's some speculation online about whether Julie Chen's talk show days are numbered. Hustle up, Kate! The chair of your dreams might be opening up very soon!
Layla said... 27
There's some speculation online about whether Julie Chen's talk show days are numbered. Hustle up, Kate! The chair of your dreams might be opening up very soon!
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Unfortunately for TFW that wouldn’t work out because Sharon Osbourne has no use for her. I remember when Sharon was on Ellen (?) and Ellen was showing her pictures of people in the news to get Sharon’s comments. When they came to TFW’s picture Sharon threw it on the floor and made a rude comment. It was great!
Jamie, Kate's BFF posted on Instagram this morning that her husband passed away sudden on Saturday.
https://www.instagram.com/jamiepumpkin3/
Jamie, Kate's BFF posted on instagram that her husband passed away suddenly on Saturday. So sad..........
https://www.instagram.com/jamiepumpkin3/
Jamie, Kate's BFF posted on instagram that her husband passed away suddenly on Saturday. So sad..........
https://www.instagram.com/jamiepumpkin3/
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Her account is private but oh my god! Wasn't this her second husband and they got married maybe 5-8 odd years ago?
I wonder if Kate will go out to support her.
Her account is private but oh my god! Wasn't this her second husband and they got married maybe 5-8 odd years ago?
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Yes I believe she was getting a divorce from the first husband around the time Kate was getting hers. The second husband was a doctor from what I remember .
That’s terrible for Jamie. So sad. She should be careful with a narcissistic bff like tfw...she’s already plotting a double dating show down the road.
I follow Jamie on IG and this is very sad news. He died in his sleep on Saturday. So far neither Milo nor Kate have posted to her account. I can only hope that Kate has contacted her privately and will not be trying to grab the spotlight. I really think that something has happened to Milo. I follow her also and have reached out to people and no one knows what's become of her.
I follow Jamie on IG and this is very sad news. He died in his sleep on Saturday. So far neither Milo nor Kate have posted to her account. I can only hope that Kate has contacted her privately and will not be trying to grab the spotlight. I really think that something has happened to Milo. I follow her also and have reached out to people and no one knows what's become of her.
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In his sleep? Geez! This truly is awful. She's young. And it seemed like this guy was good for her and the kids after a bad divorce.
I hope despite Kate's narcissism she is able to be the support Jamie and her children need right now.
Though I always found it interesting the guy was never on the show, never seemed to come with Jamie on her several trips to PA. Kind of odd.
Very sorry to hear about Jamie's husband. Tragically, she is now the single mother that TFW has pretended to be.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 36
Yes, this is terribly sad; I had a boss who went exactly the same way at the age of 54. Beyond shocking. But I don't think Jamie had any kids with this husband; the father of her kids is still alive, as far as we know, and wasn't it said he actually had physical custody of their children? If so, does that qualify her as a "single" mom? Even if it does, of course she'll never reach the level of pathos that K8, "Single Mom of 8," has staked out as her unique territory.
NJGal51
Haha, gotta love Sharon Osbourne! She doesn't hold back.
I feel terrible for Jamie. I wonder if this was something sudden or if her husband had some condition that led to his death. Not my business, of course, but I do feel for her. Finding him had to have been horrible. I hope her BFF is able to set aside her self-absorption and be supportive and sympathetic.
That is terrible about Jamie.
The Little Couple is coming back on next month. Will Kate's Date Hate be on the schedule?
Kate hasn't posted a thing on instagram in 12 days.
I wonder if Kate ever even met Jamie's husband.
https://deadline.com/2018/09/julie-chen-out-the-talk-leslie-moonves-harassment-sharon-osbourne-1202467087/
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Yep, she's gone, and she says she's standing by her man.
I thought it was strange 60 Minutes didn't say anything about it. It was a big elephant in the room. I expected better of them.
I was flipping channels and came across the new Sweet Home Sextuplets on TLC. They have one older boy and a set of twin boys and now are expecting sextuplets (3 boys and 3 girls). Kate must be fuming mad, they will have one up on her. Another family that will be exploited by TLC.
Yep, she's gone, and she says she's standing by her man.
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My grandmother had a word she used for people like her..."dummkopf".
Bluebird (42)
I think the thing that would make Kate mad is the fact that all these other families have shows starting before the babies are even born. She didn't have a regular show until the tups were 2 1/2. I'm sure she's thought about all the money she could have made off her kids in that amount of time. And now that she only has 4 of them left at home, it will be hard to sell K+8 as a show. There is no 8, and anyone who is interested in the family knows that H&C are gone, and why they are gone. In less than 3 weeks the twins will be legal adults and Kate can't sell any more of their lives to TLC. Finally, they get to take control of their lives and their privacy, and there's nothing she can do about it. Cara must be so relieved!
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Huh, nice. I was just calling her Dumb-dumb Julie but that one has a ring to it.
Admin...My husband and I watch the national/world nightly news on CBS with Jeff Glor. They did extensive coverage of the Les Moonves mess for several nights. They didn't shy away from it or sugar coat it. I was surprised. I figured they would give it a few minutes, then move on.
With regard to Julie Chen Moonves, as soon as I saw she added his last name, I knew she was standing by her man. Maybe she knew about his shenanigans from the start. If she did, what an idiot.
My sympathies to Jamie on her sudden loss. This really is sad.
Bluebird said... 42
I was flipping channels and came across the new Sweet Home Sextuplets on TLC. They have one older boy and a set of twin boys and now are expecting sextuplets (3 boys and 3 girls). Kate must be fuming mad, they will have one up on her. Another family that will be exploited by TLC.
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I watched a couple minutes of the show. For some reason, the husband reminded me of Toby Keith and the wife had the wide-eyed look of Babykins/Mama Duggar. I won't watch, but it will be interesting to see the ratings.
OT--Found this when I googled for information on Bill Cosby's sentencing date. Wonder if Bill and/or his legal team put Camille up to this or if she's joined the ranks of Dottie Sandusky, Julie Chen, etc. Kind of a dumb move--it won't stop Bill's sentencing next week, but it got some publicity.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/09/17/camille-cosby-demands-husband-bill-cosby-judge-investigated/1334834002/
Admin...My husband and I watch the national/world nightly news on CBS with Jeff Glor. They did extensive coverage of the Les Moonves mess for several nights. They didn't shy away from it or sugar coat it. I was surprised. I figured they would give it a few minutes, then move on.
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That's great. 60 Minutes is their crown jewel it seemed odd they didn't follow up.
OT--Found this when I googled for information on Bill Cosby's sentencing date.
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On a related note, I wonder if those in charge of the Hollywood Walk of Fame will consider having Cosby's star removed. It's apparently been defaced several times since the accusations started back when. Personally I don't think he deserves to have one there anymore. What a scumbag he turned out to be.
Sweet Home Sextuplets got 1.436 million viewers last night, and was the #5 cable tv show for the night. Kate could only dream of pulling in that many viewers. Last time K+8 got a million viewers was...3 years ago? And that was with the kids. I think we'll all have a good laugh when we see the ratings for Kate's dating show. I think they're going to be hilariously bad.
ncgirl (19)
Did you see an ad for The Little Couple? TLC may be starting to advertise their fall shows. They haven't said anything about Kate's Fake Date since April.
So--any guesses how they're going to portray Kate for the dating show? Either they tart her up and blow her "mom of 8" image away for good, or they just let her be her awkward self. From what was said about the one dating episode that aired, she was extremely awkward and it was painful to watch. And TLC signed up for more of the same. Dummies.
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On a related note, I wonder if those in charge of the Hollywood Walk of Fame will consider having Cosby's star removed. It's apparently been defaced several times since the accusations started back when. Personally I don't think he deserves to have one there anymore. What a scumbag he turned out to be.
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Auntie Ann, it makes me wonder if there was more to the story of Lisa Bonet leaving the show than what was made public. I think Tempsett Bledsoe (the 3rd TV daughter) did an interview about Cosby's advances towards her as a young teen. Guess I'm a cynical old biddy.
"Did you see an ad for The Little Couple?"
Yeah, they show the new house, and they're going to China because their adoptive son is Chinese. And Kate never got that Korean trip. lol
So--any guesses how they're going to portray Kate for the dating show? Either they tart her up and blow her "mom of 8" image away for good, or they just let her be her awkward self.
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I'm hesitant to make predictions, but I doubt if this Kate's Fake D8 thing will ever see the light of day. She's so, SO inconsequential to 'reality teevee' now. Why doesn't she understand that it ain't 2008 anymore.
Auntie Ann, it makes me wonder if there was more to the story of Lisa Bonet leaving the show than what was made public. I think Tempsett Bledsoe (the 3rd TV daughter) did an interview about Cosby's advances towards her as a young teen. Guess I'm a cynical old biddy.
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Not cynical, just bitter and blackhearted lol.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if there was more to Lisa Bonet's departure. Ugh, the thought of him coming on to his young co-stars is sickening. My god was he so horny every minute of the day that he would even think about getting them into bed? The man is repulsive.
Layla (#51), that's a pretty solid rating for the new multiples show.
Between that, the Little Couple, the Roloffs and the ever-enlarging Duggar clan, TLC's family show needs seem tl be well met.
But if America suddenly shows a groundswell of interest in the dating lives of boring, shallow, narcicisstic, charm-free, mid-fortysomething shrews, well, then....heeeeere's Katie!
Auntie Ann (54)
It's weird that there have been so few sightings of filming for the dating show. And there's no mention of the show on the Figure 8 Films website. They filmed all of J&K+8 and K+8, so you'd expect that they would be filming the dating show, too. But no mention of it. I wonder if they did some filming and watched the footage and realized how awful she comes across. What was TLC thinking, trying to sell Kate without the kids? A lot of people watched because of the kids, and the ratings were bad enough with them. Once they take away the viewers who want to see the kids, what have they got left?
MY DIL watched the 600-pound life show (she says it motivates her to work out), and she reported ads for The Little Couple, Long Island Medium, Sweet Home Sextuplets, and Outdaughtered. Apparently The Little Couple and Long Island Medium are coming back in October. No mention of K8's Fake Date.
How old was Jamie? Around Kate’s age? I know what this feels like...thinking you’re going to grow old together and bam it’s over.. your life and hopes and dreams are gone in an instant...it’s a sickening cruel life sometimes
I will say one thing “TWIST OF KATE”...need I say more?
Layla (#57), maybe the Long Island Medium can predict when TFW's dating shown will be on!
Oh, boy, The Little Couple gets to go to China! I'm sure Kate's not at all jealous. After all, she go t to go to an Escape Room. That's just as good, right?
It's weird that there have been so few sightings of filming for the dating show. And there's no mention of the show on the Figure 8 Films website.
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Layla, when they can't even find a guy whose willing to get paid for going on a date with her maybe it's time to fold up the Kate tent and shelve it. I'd say it's sad but the tears just aren't flowing.
I'm hesitant to make predictions, but I doubt if this Kate's Fake D8 thing will ever see the light of day. She's so, SO inconsequential to 'reality teevee' now. Why doesn't she understand that it ain't 2008 anymore.
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She doesn't understand because she thinks she's a stah. It makes me think of that old movie "Whatever happened to Baby Jane". Somewhere along the way she got it into her head that she's a superstar. TLC didn't do her any favours in that regard. She engineered having a litter of babies, which isn't even really a big deal anymore and the monster was hatched. I think she'll probably go into her twilight years still as deluded as she is today. Which is pathetic because life will move on without her but she'll still keep hold of the delusion with everything she has.
AuntieAnn (#62), I can just see TLC poring over a list of candidates for the dating show and getting less and less discerning as they have no takers. Straight guys, gay guys, ex-cons, current cons, transgender cons...
Concerned Aussie (#63), yeah, TFW put all her eggs (no fertility pun intended) in the reality star basket, and doesn't seem to have cultivated any other career opportunities. She seems content to play victim now, and I'm sure blames Jon for any and all injustices both personal and professional.
How old was Jamie? Around Kate’s age? I know what this feels like...thinking you’re going to grow old together and bam it’s over.. your life and hopes and dreams are gone in an instant...it’s a sickening cruel life sometimes
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I felt this way when my DOG died who isn't supposed to match my lifespan, I really cannot imagine the feeling when it's a spouse, especially when it's long before you anticipated.
I've been thinking, I wonder if this date show, what little they've probably filmed, is set up to have a wing-man character. We know for a fact Jamie was along for at least one of the episodes. I wonder if that meant Jamie was to be the regular wing-man for all the episodes. She is the most interesting of Kate's two to three friends. And I doubt Jamie is going to be up to any kind of filming anytime soon. This is all if they even intend to film anymore.
FlimsyFlamsy (65)
TLC used a Washington, DC talent agency to find the "random guy" Kate spotted across the street in the DC Cupcakes episode, so I assumed they'd go with the same agency. They'll find camera-ready men to use, but I think the big roadbock is Kate. They've tried to market her by herself before (talk show, Twist of Kate) and abandoned both projects. She's just not worth watching on her own. Did they forget that? Did they think she'd get better with time? I suspect they contracted for a specific number of episodes for the last season of K+8, and had to stop filming--maybe due to the custody fight over Hannah and fear of negative publicity, or they knew they couldn't sell a "Plus 8" show with only 6. So they still owed her episodes per that contract and came up with this craptastic dating show to finish out the remaining episodes. I may be wrong, but that's the only thing that makes sense to me. The only other excuse for doing this is sheer stupidity on their part.
Concerned Aussie (63)
She not only engineered a litter of babies, she also had twins! As she is quoted as saying in Robert H's book, "They don't understand how RARE we are!"
Layla (#67), and what kind of a whackadoo role model is she for her 5 daughters' -- not to mention her 3 sons' -- future romantic prospects? "Oh, prom is coming up...let's start calling around for potential dates."
The odds are stacked against those kids in myriad ways, but their social development may suffer the most from their upbringing.
Layla said... 67
FlimsyFlamsy (65)
TLC used a Washington, DC talent agency to find the "random guy" Kate spotted across the street in the DC Cupcakes episode
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The twins were with her for this, right? I wonder if they knew that this was no stranger off the street, but someone the production company HIRED for a staged little interlude. Makes you wonder to what extent they have been clued in to the fakery and/or been compelled to participate in it.
I can just see TLC poring over a list of candidates for the dating show and getting less and less discerning as they have no takers.
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Flimsy, not that I've stayed awake nights thinking about it, but the only guy I can come up with that's a match for the shrew is that other reality show wannabe who staged his son sailing away in that ufo balloon. I can't remember his name. He's as much of a con as Kate. He might still be married but that hasn't seemed to bother her before.
Kate has had more opportunities than most people get in a lifetime. She could have branched out on the mom pitch and not used the kids. I truly think she thought the TLC cash cow would be endless. She even stated in one of the couch interviews that she envisioned filming well into high school or college. (I can't remember ATM) Anyway, she must have invested well (between the show, books, speaking fees and let us not forget the bank she made on DWTS and the Apprentice) she doesn't appear to be penniless.
I don't think she needs the money so much as she needs the recognition. I could be terrible wrong too.
And what happened to Jamie is really so sad. In the pictures she has posted of her and her husband she seemed very happy. It is kind of ironic that for all of Kate's scheming to marry a doctor (according to Robert's book) it was Jamie who ended up with one. I do wish Jamie well and I hope she can find some peace through all of this.
SaraMRN (69)
In one of Kate's emails (printed in Robert's book), she said, "When I'm old and gray (and probably still filming)…", so I think she considers this her forever job. If she can't film then she refuses to do anything. Her shelf life was up a long time ago, but she refuses to accept it. I agree, she must have plenty of money put away after all she has earned, and her insistence upon filming is all ego-driven. It's laughable that she keeps repeating that she's broke and she could lose her kids, but then she's able to live for years without working. How stupid does she think people are? Answer: really, really stupid.
Hi Y'all, greetings from central Virginia weird weather land, where we had EIGHT confirmed tornadoes Monday!!!!!!!!
https://www.weather.gov/akq/Sep172018_Tornadoes
Only one death, amazingly.
Flimsy Flamsy, Julie will always be the beloved Chenbot to Big Brother fans. so named after her robotic performance the first season of BB. fortunately the game and her performance improved.
Jamie published a picture of in her kitchen with a few of her “lifelines”. I’m glad to see that Kate is there supporting her.
Jamie published a picture of in her kitchen with a few of her “lifelines”. I’m glad to see that Kate is there supporting her.
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You know, these are the moments where you see who your true friends are. Who is really there for you when the shit really hits the fan. It hits and hits hard, and true friends hop on the first plane and come out to just be with you no matter what it takes.
I think all of us simply relate to Jamie. Maybe we've been through our own similar loss, or have at least contemplated what such a loss would be like, and the very idea of it is disturbing and shocking.
And it does help to have a good girlfriend around, just to BE there. Not to say anything, or do anything, or whatever. Just to know you're not alone because you sure as hell feel VERY alone in that moment. I am really, really glad Jamie has those friends.
It's good to hear that Kate is being there for Jamie. She tends to be so self-absorbed, and their friendship so one-sided, that I was curious about what kind of effort she'd be willing to make for Jamie's sake. And admin's right, it's good to have someone just to be there with you. Jamie must feel so alone right now. I wonder if Jamie will move back to PA. She lived there before--I don't know if her family is there, or her kids (doesn't her ex have primary custody?), but it might be good for her to have family around for support. Probably too much to contemplate this soon, but I truly feel for her.
Coming up on Outdaughtered, the Busbys go to Hawaii (sounds familiar) and Adam is considering quitting his job (yep, sounds VERY familiar). Yet another family putting all their eggs in the reality TV basket, although they have the gym they co-own as a fall-back. At least they have something else that provides an income. It looks like their ratings are strong, so if they're careful and invest well, they may be okay. I hope they learned from Jon and Kate's mistakes.
Layla (#77), hellz no they didn't learn from J & K. Remember Mama Busby proclaimed, "We're the Busbys!" Her precious brood and her marriage will not be effected by the reality TV jinx, because she says so.
I really took a dislike to the Busby family.They seem so entitled and self-important. The mother-in-law was histrionic, the father odd, and mother bossy. Kids cute though. I never watched the show except trailers or ads and looked at the FB page. There was one scene where one child was dubbed 'The Pooper" Say no more.
Doesn't look good for 'America's Favorite Dad' tomorrow and Tuesday.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-cosby-sentencing-predator_us_5ba740a2e4b069d5f9d39b8f
Susan1956 (80)
The Cosbys are acting like the judge is biased against poor Bill and should recuse himself. I'm sure they think anyone who doesn't fall for the "America's favorite dad" act should be removed and replaced with one who worships Bill. Camille even made a plea to the PA judicial ethics board to demand that the judge be investigated and prosecuted. I'm sure she thinks it was wrong to allow those awful victims to speak about what her saintly husband did to them. Oh, the horror! Doesn't this judge know who Bill Cosby IS?
Camille Cosby, Dottie Sandusky--what is it with these women????
FlimsyFlamsy (78)
I don't watch the Busby show, but from what I have seen, they have learned little to nothing from the other reality TV families. Setting yourself up for a future in reality TV is basically putting yourself and your family at the mercy of TLC (or WE or whoever) and the fickle viewers. Audiences tire of watching the same people all the time, especially as those people become less and less relatable. When they move into a huge house (and simultaneously quit working), take one expensive trip after another, and yet complain constantly about how hhhaarrrrddd their lives are, viewers lose interest. Ratings go down, filming slows down, and eventually the show may be cancelled. Then you're stuck sending your "source" to People magazine to whine on your behalf that you're almost broke and what's going to happen to your kids????? I hope the Busbys have learned from the mistakes of RTV families before them, but I wouldn't be too sure.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already but a fan opened an Instagram account with the name "Kateplusmy8_" on Aug 19th. I only noticed it today when she posted a comment on a photo Jon posted of this huge order of fries he got at this clubhouse while watching the football game. Anyway, I clicked on her page & she has a photo of Kate with this guy (employee?)taken at the Exit Escape Room. He's wearing a t-shirt that says that & has his arm around her. She posted it on Aug 30th. Has anyone else seen this photo? Kate has the fakest smile ever & she looks really different to me. Her left eye looks weird. I've never seen the photo before & wonder where she got it as she also has photos of the kids that I've never seen before.
Sandy love - It’s the picture that one of the owners published when TFW went there for an episode of her dating show (verified) back in July.
OT--this came across my FB feed this morning and I got a little chuckle out of it. If even a little bit of it is true, does it foreshadow a time TLC will be Duggar free? I always thought Kate and JimBoob were stupid to assume they would always be in control and be filming forever. Granted, JimBoob and Babykins have more kids to exploit than Kate and it may take some of the older Duggar kids longer to follow John David's example, but it's a start. There are also a couple of the younger boys still at home that seem somewhat more independent.
Off topic but we had our first ever tornado here on Friday, actually there were 2 that touched down. Luckily there were no deaths, but the damage caused is unbelievable. I know the US gets lots of tornados and I've seen the devastation on TV, but this is the first time I've ever seen it up close. Thankfully the only thing I got here at home was the wind, now I don't have to pick the apples from my tree, most of them fell to the ground. My neighbours and I are filling a u-haul with furniture, clothes, dishes, water and food to help out those who have lost everything. My heart goes out to everyone who has been through any natural disasters.
Susan1956 (80)
The Cosbys are acting like the judge is biased against poor Bill and should recuse himself. I'm sure they think anyone who doesn't fall for the "America's favorite dad" act should be removed and replaced with one who worships Bill. Camille even made a plea to the PA judicial ethics board to demand that the judge be investigated and prosecuted. I'm sure she thinks it was wrong to allow those awful victims to speak about what her saintly husband did to them. Oh, the horror! Doesn't this judge know who Bill Cosby IS?
Camille Cosby, Dottie Sandusky--what is it with these women????
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Nuts!
NJGal51, thanks! I guess I must have missed seeing it before.
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Glad you are safe and what a nice thing to do to help those affected. My sister lives near there so I was following the news.Luckily she was ok. Much loss and destruction in the area. Makes one realize how lucky they are not to live in a place that frequently is hit by natural disasters.
Bluebird...glad to hear you're ok. Natural disasters always raise havoc but they have a way of bringing people together to help out others.
Camille Cosby, Dottie Sandusky--what is it with these women????
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It looks like they broke a rule of Michelle Duggar' s Advice on How to be a Good Wifey Wife. It's all their fault, you see, for not being "joyfully available" to meet their man's needs. If their husbands wander off and rape women and sodomize boys, they are to blame.
But what I really think is they abhorred having sex with their husbands and were glad they were finding "joyful" satisfaction elsewhere so they turned a blind eye and a deaf ear and lived happily ever after in denial. Big oops.
It looks like they broke a rule of Michelle Duggar' s Advice on How to be a Good Wifey Wife. It's all their fault, you see, for not being "joyfully available" to meet their man's needs.
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Does being unconscious count as joyfully available? I guess that's the way Huxtable liked 'em.
Does being unconscious count as joyfully available? I guess that's the way Huxtable liked 'em.
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Joyful for him apparently. He must have taken some perverse pleasure in drugging those women before he assaulted them.
It will interesting to see what happens today and if his faithful wife will be there to see it.
Cosby's sentencing is coming up in less than an hour. I hope he gets prison. He has not expressed any remorse, and that bothers me. The arrogance of both Bill and Camille--they seem to think that Bill is above the law, and anyone who says otherwise or gets in the way of Bill getting what he wants is wrong and needs to either put up and shut up--or deserves to be punished. The news pundits say he won't express remorse because he plans to appeal and any expression of remorse could be construed as an admission of guilt. That's true, but I also think he doesn't feel any remorse. He's Bill Cosby, he thinks he's above the law, and is probably outraged at the fact that anyone dared to hold him accountable. Let's hope this judge does just that.
Cosby got 34 months in a state facility. 34 months, after all that he did. Sorry, but I do not think the punishment fits the crime(s). He victimized dozens of women over decades, and this is all he gets. I'm glad he has to serve time, but it's just not enough.
Bill Cosby denied bail.
Now they're saying 3-10 years, which (I think) is more appropriate. No bail pending appeal, so BC will be taken into custody today.
I'm struggling to find accurate information about this (I hate journalists) but I THINK this might mean he got the max. Ten years was the max, and the 3 year thing only means he's up for parole. What with what he did and the things he's said, good chance parole is denied until the 10 years.
Ten was the max, so the judge couldn't order more than that even if she wanted to. But I think even if she gave him 10 she might have had to throw in a parole at 3.
Sentencing is extremely complicated and journalists on top of it all do a piss poor job explaining it.
I guess the DA wanted 5-10. I'm betting that was the max.
Whatever, no amount of prison can undue this horror.
Joyful for him apparently. He must have taken some perverse pleasure in drugging those women before he assaulted them.
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I think it must be similar to necrophilia right? Almost like a fetish.
Apparently a psychologist testified he has a sexually deviant illness.
Did you read about the 1969 Cosby comedy routine about drugging girls' drinks with a "Spanish Fly?" My husband's family when he was a child had that LP although I don't think the kids really knew about what it meant. This stuff is old and ingrained in Cosby.He is an evil man and I am ashamed I ever enjoyed his comedy show or his apparent accomplishments
Cosby's team is claiming that this is a racist trial and are comparing the prosecution of the case to the persecution of Jesus. Wow. Just wow. I have to wonder if they really believe this, or are they just saying it for the benefit of the cameras? They really appear to believe all that they are saying. That's scary.
Camille is sure throwing a fit. She still believes he's innocent. What meds is she on?
Is her fit being broadcast live anywhere? Camille cam?
Admin, the defense team read a statement from Camille. She's enraged, to say the least.
Camille cam?
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She had one of BC'S lawyers read a statement she wrote (after he was cuffed and hauled off to prison). She also put it on Cosby's Facebook and you can read it on the CNN site.
I consider that vile statement about Jesus sacrilegious.
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Watching the new sextuplets show....... so much sweeter than kart's show! I imagine kart must be fuming when she watches this ! She was never this sweet and loving to her babies or family!
I consider that vile statement about Jesus sacrilegious.
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Well he certainly isn't making things better for Cosby by saying that. Worse really. It didn't even make sense. 'They persecuted Jesus and look what happened'. What's that supposed to mean?
I am curious to know how Admin. and other posters feel about Brett Kavanaugh. So far they condemn Bill Cosby and Jerry Sandusky, but they are mute about Brett Kavanaugh.
I consider that vile statement about Jesus sacrilegious.
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I agree, they have said some really offensive stuff! It's like, what the hay?!
Also the comments about racism? Like, could they please not be so insulting to all their fans? Nobody was NOT a fan of Bill Cosby. People loved the MAN, whatever his race was, for how funny he was, how funny his show was, the great advice he would give, and the idea that they could turn on something wonderfully entertaining and watch with their kids. If people were really racist, why on earth didn't they turn on him before he ever got his show off the ground? Come on, Cosby.
And remember when Bill Cosby was all like, don't be looking for racism around every corner? Remember those days? Uh-huh, what happened to that? I thought he told us little to nothing is racist anymore. Except I guess when it comes to him.
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Watching the new sextuplets show....... so much sweeter than kart's show!
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Kart, heh, I remember that nickname.
Is it really that good? I can't picture myself ever being interested in a show about multiples ever again. I'm multipled out.
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Did you read about the 1969 Cosby comedy routine about drugging girls' drinks with a "Spanish Fly?"
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The what what WHAT???
Here’s the Spanish Fly routine.
https://youtu.be/Nx6KAd_Su3I
I think that TLC thinks HOMs are money makers and learned their lesson to avoids bitches and narcissists as the mother's. Even the Busby mom is ok..... although tonight the dad said he wants to quit his job..... sigh....
Yes, the new Sweet Home Sextuplets is starting out very gentle and the parents both seem 'normal'
Time will tell. Watch it at least once, see if you agree .
The test will be if they protect the kids privacy as they grow...
No kidding, kart is probably drinking and bitching because she has been replaced. She's lost two kids and two more will leave real soon. Her Mine All Mine is crumbling. No pity, she brought it all on herself.
I bet money her date show will never see the light of day.
I am curious to know how Admin. and other posters feel about Brett Kavanaugh. So far they condemn Bill Cosby and Jerry Sandusky, but they are mute about Brett Kavanaugh.
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I'm curious how you and other posters feel about true victims of sexual assault having their stories manipulated, sat on until the best moment, used and abused in order to play political sides. I find that disgusting, disrespectful, and most of all, downright hypocritical. I'm curious if you think anyone using Ford to further her agenda at the moment they were ready for this card truly cares one bit about Ford. (I'll give you a hint, they don't)
I have devoted my career to victims of violence, abuse and sexual assault, most of them children, some of them adults like victims of domestic violence. If any one of them I met, cried with, held their hand, and made sure their story got heard in court, and got many of them JUSTICE, were to be used by some slimy politician to make their point, I'd be out for blood. Forget about it.
Actually not curious at all. Nobody wants to discuss politics, they've made that clear.
The whole WORLD laughed, LAUGHED I SAY, at your 'hero' president! LOL LMAO ROFL
What a pathetic 'president'. You still going to defend him?
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Meh, I'll laugh all the way to the bank. My 401k is soaring. Soaring. Near everybody got a raise in their paychecks a short time back. The trade deals finally make sense and US jobs are protected. Our borders are finally being secured so we don't have another Kate Stinley or Mollie Tibbets. Thanks Trump. Not so pathetic when you open your wallet.
I find nearly the entire other party to be a bunch of hypocritis. Rapists, gropers, beaters, and even murderers (Ted Kennedy) and it's all ignored. In fact the other side's rapists, gropers and beaters are also ignored until a political play is necessary.
The only thing funny about this is you think that side actually cares about metoo. That is FUNNY.
Incredible piece of writing this morning from Carrie Sheffield. This is not Cosby. This is not Sandusky. This is not Weinstein. And that, Kate is a Twit, is why you don't see outrage here from the ladies who always think so critically about what is going on in our world:
"Progressive women who don the scarlet robes and white hats of "The Handmaid's Tale" in protest of Judge Kavanaugh and other conservatives say they fear a backward, dystopian society where science takes a backseat to superstition. Ironically, if the "evidence" to date against Kavanaugh were to derail his nomination, they would be manifesting such a society."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/opinions/democrats-have-hijacked-metoo-for-political-gain-sheffield/index.html
Cosby's publicist also said his trial was "the most sexist and racist" trial in history, called Cosby "one of the greatest civil rights leaders in the United States over the past 50 years" and said Cosby is a "great educator of men and boys". A serial rapist is a great educator of men and boys? Well, then, I'm glad my DH and sons never learned anything from the likes of Bill Cosby!
Only 12 days until the G twins' birthday. I think it's safe to say that Kate can't make any more money off their backs and against their will. Mady might want to film, and if she does, her pay belongs to her. No more splitting 15% with 7 other people. Poor Kate will have to learn to share (finally). That is, if they can find anyone who is interested in filming them. Cara can't be forced to film ever again. No more use of child labor to line Mommy's pockets, at least as far as the twins are concerned.
From Kavaugh's statement to the Judiciary Committee:
I drank beer with my friends, usually on
weekends. Sometimes I had too many. In retrospect, I said and did things in high school that make me cringe now
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/BK%20Written%20Testimony%20-%20Submitted%20Sept%2026.pdf
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No more splitting 15% with 7 other people.
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That’s not what they were getting. 15% of each individual child’s pay was put into an individual trust for each of them. They EACH got to keep 15% of their own earnings.
The other 85% of each child’s pay was controlled by Kate. She could bank it for them, or use it as she sees fit. Each child was only guaranteed 15% of their own personal earnings would be put in a trust for them. Hopefully she put in a lot more. Also, of each of the 15% Kate could use those funds (the 15%) for the child’s schooling and expenses. So essentially Kate could use all their money to support them until they turn 18 and she makes them support themselves.
Cosby, Sandusky, Kavanaugh...
I don’t think it matters what the “agenda” is if they were each guilty of what their accusers accused them.
Black, Democrat, Republican... whatever they claim is the reason people are coming forward doesn’t really matter if they did what they were accused of.
I don’t think it matters what the “agenda” is if they were each guilty of what their accusers accused them.
Black, Democrat, Republican... whatever they claim is the reason people are coming forward doesn’t really matter if they did what they were accused of.
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Well, I don't think what every man has done in his past should be lumped into the same pot. There are high school parties where inappropriate behavior may have occurred, and then there are people who drug and rape women or rape foster children. I'm sorry, I refused to see that as all the same. A lot of men in the metoo movement were justly brought, and then there have been a fair amount who really weren't fairly brought forward. It's not a "meh whatever" thing, it's a big deal to be accused of such things.
Sitting on information for political strategy does suggest the holders of that information don't really think it's as serious as they now claim or were concerned the case is not that strong and should only be used as a hail mary. In that respect it does matter very much to the CREDIBILITY of the allegations.
I drank beer with my friends, usually on
weekends. Sometimes I had too many. In retrospect, I said and did things in high school that make me cringe now
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/BK%20Written%20Testimony%20-%20Submitted%20Sept%2026.pdf
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Wouldn't this be the statement of almost every person who has ever been through high school and like most kids chosen to drink? I like his statement a lot, actually. It's more honest than he's been since the beginning of the witch hunt.
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Good grief, that's worse than I thought. We don't know what the kids were paid individually, but with Kate negotiating for them, it probably wasn't much. There was only so much TLC was willing to pay in salaries for a low-rated show. Of course, if she got to keep all of her pay, plus 85% of theirs, it didn't really matter much--it was all going to her anyway. And even the small amount that was tucked away for them wasn't safe from her greedy claws.
Kate has publicly stated the she' personally, took the majority of the J&K earnings and put the money in a college fund for the kids. But her "source" told People mag (back when the show had just started back up) that Kate needed as many episodes as she could get because the twins would be starting college before long. J&K made millions, and if Kate put the majority of those millions away for the kids' college, then why was she (supposedly) stressed about paying for college? It was probably just another lie to excuse Kate's use of the kids to support her lifestyle, but there's no guarantee the kids will come out of this with anything. And if that's the case, TLC--and Kate--will face a media sh*tstorm when the kids are old enough to figure this out.
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There are high school parties where inappropriate behavior may have occurred, and then there are people who drug and rape women or rape foster children.
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I guess it depends on what "inappropriate behavior" it was.
You mentioned drugging a girl or child and raping her, and implied that is unacceptable. Agreed! For sure.
Is it just rape that is unacceptable?
What if she drugged herself? Or drank too much? Is it just "inappropriate" for a high school or college student to "take advantage" of her? Or is that more than "inappropriate?"
I'm not sure what you mean by inappropriate behavior when it comes to a "high school student."
Is it just anything less than full-on "rape?" What about touching? Under clothes? over clothes? above waist? below waist? What about just pressing his body against her?
Sorry, but I'm just not clear on "inappropriate behavior" as opposed to "rape."
Care to expand on that?
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Wouldn't this be the statement of almost every person who has ever been through high school and like most kids chosen to drink? I like his statement a lot, actually. It's more honest than he's been since the beginning of the witch hunt.
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I agree. I think most teens, young adults, etc have said or done something that makes us cringe now looking back... but I have no idea what he actually means by that. It's so basic and doesn't say much.
Only 12 days until the G twins' birthday. I think it's safe to say that Kate can't make any more money off their backs and against their will. Mady might want to film, and if she does, her pay belongs to her. No more splitting 15% wit———
It depends. One of the Duggar sons-in-law states on Twitter NONE of the adult kids get money from the show.
It all goes to JimBoob.
I agree. I think most teens, young adults, etc have said or done something that makes us cringe now looking back... but I have no idea what he actually means by that. It's so basic and doesn't say much.
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I don't really know either, which is why testimony is going to be really important on this case. That was offered to the victim repeatedly, and they finally agreed. So we'll see what she has to say and whether she is credible, and that goes to your second very good point about what is inappropriate behavior, and that's what I'm saying--it's a case by case basis which is why we need victims to come forward and be willing to talk. But nothing to date suggests any of this, even if true, is anything like Cosby or Sandusky, so we can move on from that hyperbole.
In California, what you did as a minor is usually put under seal for this very reason, so whether behavior during high school should be given the same weight as behavior made for instance, at work, among adults, or in your later years when you certainly knew better, is an open question and one even raised decades ago during Anita Hill.
It remains to be seen whether this is even true and if so, a forgivable mistake mitigated by a lifetime of service and no other blemishes, or whether it's a disqualifying event. It is just a shame that those trying to use this to further their agenda didn't do the right thing and let us know this way back in July so everyone could have months to thoroughly look into this, instead of days. A little ownership of what they did would be most welcome from that lot and go a long way to promoting collaboration with this. They should also think carefully about whether they truly believe this is disqualifying, because another nominee will simply be put in his place and this time he might be even more conservative. Kaveneagh is little to no danger to the principles most people are worried about with him, for instance he has told people Roe v Wade is settled law and his personal feelings don't have any bearing on rocking the boat on things like that--if that were a judge who politically wasn't my cup of tea I'd cut my losses and accept it as close enough. Nobody needs Kaveneaugh, there's ten others just as qualified and ready to go. I had actually said as soon as this came out it might be better off to ditch Kavaneaugh right that moment, cut bait and start over with somebody else. It's not worth it, and I think I was right.
It depends. One of the Duggar sons-in-law states on Twitter NONE of the adult kids get money from the show.
It all goes to JimBoob.
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The crazy one said that? Well that's their fault. Put on their big boy pants and big girl dresses and get their cut.
Also not sure I believe that. Wouldn't that violate labor laws? You can't just not pay somebody. Adults anyway. With kids you can do whatever you want, but they aint kids anymore.
Another thing all politicians need to think about. If the consensus is we're going to open up high school to scrutiny, are they okay with their high school years being open?
I heard the high school parties at Ethel Kennedy's house, attended by many prominent future politicians, were pretty out of control. Do people seriously want to open the barn door on this?
Meh, I'll laugh all the way to the bank. My 401k is soaring. Soaring.
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Ah, spoken like the good selfish Republican that you are. It’s not all about YOU. As long as you’re making $, you don’t give a shit who is hurt. Nice to see you admit what a pig you are.
Ah, spoken like the good selfish Republican that you are. It’s not all about YOU. As long as you’re making $, you don’t give a shit who is hurt. Nice to see you admit what a pig you are.
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Huh? A good strong economy is good for everyone. I’m happy and excited for everyone. Millions upon millions share my experiences with this incredible economy the likes of which I’ve never seen in my adult lifetime. What specifically is bothering you so much about current times. Be specific. Might or could doesn’t count and if you’re a Canadian with lots of opinions about something that has nothing to do with you then....
Huh? A good strong economy is good for everyone. I’m happy and excited for everyone. Millions upon millions share my experiences with this incredible economy the likes of which I’ve never seen in my adult lifetime. What specifically is bothering you so much about current times. Be specific. Might or could doesn’t count and if you’re a Canadian with lots of opinions about something that has nothing to do with you then....
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1) I'm not a Canadian
2) You've never had a problem expressing your opinion about things that have nothing to do with you, so perhaps you should extend that same right to others
3) I do not owe you the specifics about what is bothering me about the current times. Your wish is not my command.
I might take you a tad more seriously if you hadn't lumped Al Franken into the horrible sexual predator category. Keep screaming about all the hypocrisy in the "other party" and many of us will just keep on laughing and listening to the pots sand kettles clanging.
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You’re Right. How dare anyone be outraged over him taking a photo of an unconscious woman while he pretended to squeeze her boobs. That’s cool. For god sake get a grip. It’s not the worst thing in the world but it’s also completely uncalled for. If it were your sister?
Also he was in his 50s and knew better. He wasn’t a stupid 17 year old.
Sexual assault (if true) by a 17 year-old is just an innocent "boys will be boys" mistake that shouldn't factor into a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land, but a tacky photo by a 50+ year old is grounds for being forced out of the Senate. Got it.
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I said nothing even remotely of the sort. I simply don't believe what I have heard so far rises to the level of men in their 50's systematically raping foster children. It is ludicrous to compare the two. I am in support of full hearings and testimony and only when that is heard should any final decisions be made. Depending on what comes out at those hearings I may very well be fine with cutting him loose. I still don't understand why this information was not brought forward in July, giving EVERYONE, both sides, time to properly investigate it before the Supreme Court starts next month.
Are you against expunging minors' records, which is almost universally done in some form in all states? Because it sounds like you're saying everything done as a minor should follow you around the rest of your life. That is contrary to public policy and the law. You might want to read up on the reasons for such policies.
Ironically, I was supposed to be barred by the Supreme Court on October 5 with some colleagues. I postponed the trip until next year, because of a wedding coming up right afterward and not wanting to do two big trips back to back. Kinda wish I had gone this year though, it would have been interesting for sure.
Lisa Durand, spokesperson for SCI Phoenix said Cosby was served Jello for one of his first prison desserts. Who is this Lisa person, she sounds hilarious.
Money over morality. What does that say about you? Money is more important than morals.
SAD
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Huh? What morals are being broken by a soaring stock market, raises directly from the IRS for EVERYONE, and one of the lowest unemployment rates in America's history. The reality is, none.
Money helps people have safe shelters over their heads, plenty of food for their children and great educations, among other things. I guess I would throw the question back to you, it's sad that you would rather see people homeless, starving and not going to school and with no future ahead, in the name of taking whatever pearl clutching stand it is you're taking, sure not sure what.
How many people have committed suicide over unemployment, poverty and no hope? Too many.
The only thing sad here is that your lot is so close minded you refuse to acknowledge how many good things are happening for so many people in this country, exactly as was predicted by many people including myself if certain philosophies were followed and executed, we knew it would. It's like a Kate fan, refusing to read anything but the "hate the haters" script.
a tacky photo by a 50+ year old is grounds for being forced out of the Senate. Got it.
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It's just "tacky" to sexually harass an unconscious woman? I never heard it put that way. Tacky, wow. Way to minimize. Isn't it WORSE to do this to someone who doesn't even know about it and didn't even get a fighting chance to decide if she wanted to consent to it? And proof that me too is not at all about protecting women from assault, whether they are conscience or not, but rather, about only using it against people you don't like, and even then only when strategically necessary. This is all really about just hating on Trump (who by the way had no idea about any of this when the nomination was made), so I'd really prefer people OWN what they are doing TO this woman Ford, their pawn, and be honest for damn once about this. I'd respect it more if people just admitted that this is just a road block to try to stop the nomination or at the very least drag it out, and not in the least about giving a voice to victims of sexual assault. Hogwash.
Also, Frankin did much more than just take a photo. Read up on the multiple incidents first before trying to defend it.
For the record, I thought Frankin was hysterical on Saturday Night Live and his time as a Senator saw his votes mostly uneventful, with many I fully supported, especially his bill to provide service dogs to veterans. I never saw him as anyone to "take out" or as a threat in any manner, not that that ever occurred to me in the first place if I even wanted to.
Anderson Cooper, Dan Rather, Ronan Farrow <--- all 3 lauded by you in the past
Now, they're all of a sudden un-credible, fakers, don't care about the MeToo movement? huh.
How very......convenient.
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The who what now? Now you're just making stuff up. I'm not talking about any of those people. I don't have an issue with any of those random names you're throwing out. I think Ronan Farrow deserves another Pulitzer. I'm talking about the politicians using this as a political ploy.
Anderson Cooper had no control over information he didn't even know existed. I happened to flip to CNN this evening and his reporting was incredibly fair.
Read Ford's statement before you go on and on. Read all of it where she names names about exactly who sat on this information under the guise of respecting her confidentiality, and then "leaked" it, oops, just in time for the hearings to get underway.
She lays it all out there exactly what happened, and it's rather horrifying. Especially when she was promised over and over that she, as a victim, would remain protected (bullshit, they filled her with false promises of protecting her to reel her in). Ford explains that due to mounting media pressure she finally disclosed herself. This was all due directly to the leak from Democratic politicians she foolishly trusted.
She says she's not a pawn, and the only thing sad about that is she's so in denial. I read her whole statement, she's clearly an emotionally fragile woman who has no idea how to process life's ups and downs and likely suffers from extreme anxiety. I wish her peace and lots of therapy.
My god, don't you live in Los Angeles? Surely you have noticed that the homeless problem didn't magically disappear under this "soaring" economy?
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Sounds like you have a rudimentary understanding of homelessness. What you're talking about is vagrants. Not homelessness. Los Angeles every night has a surplus of beds that vagrants don't take, choosing to be on the streets. I've seen the rows and rows of them myself.
Every person who wants to be housed has a shelter to go to in Los Angeles.
You can either lock these people in mental institutions or let them wander the streets, but they won't take the bed. The economy could be going through the roof and that won't matter to vagrants. Not sure what the heck that has to do with Trump.
Lisa Durand, spokesperson for SCI Phoenix said Cosby was served Jello for one of his first prison desserts. Who is this Lisa person, she sounds hilarious.
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Haha. Serves him right (pun intended), but the real proof was in the pudding.
Oh AuntieAnn...groan...that was a great crack!
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Poor Schmoopy. Between the excellent ratings and frequent repeats of the first episodes of the new sextuplets show on TLC and this announcement, she must be seething.
Susan1956 (144),
Schmoopy had her time in the sun, and now it's someone else's turn. Of course, she won't see it that way because, as always, it's all about her. She'll just have to accept that she has nothing left to offer. Two of the kids are gone, and two are becoming adults in a little over a week. She has no more cute babies or toddlers, and only 4 kids she can force to work. She's 43, divorced, has banished one of her kids and lost custody of another, she is on film berating and abusing her ex, yet she and TLC are trying to sell her in the format of a dating show. I can't think of any woman who would be less suitable for a dating show--except for maybe Michelle Duggar.
Kate, you already had your moment. You worked your kids to the point of exhaustion, for your own financial benefit. It was only a matter of time before your kids grew up and the gravy train stopped. That time has come. Nobody is thrilled that there are new families with multiples making the same poor choices that you did, but at least the mothers appear to be less abusive and controlling than you. Time's up, Schmoopy. You had your turn.
Susan1956 (#144), yeah, poor thing is firmly ensconced in the category of "yesterday's news" in the reality TV world. Or any other world, for that matter!
Poor Schmoopy. Between the excellent ratings and frequent repeats of the first episodes of the new sextuplets show on TLC and this announcement, she must be seething.
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Sorry, forgot to provide link. Maybe Terri will offer her a guest spot with round-trip airfare for her and Skeevie.
https://dearly.com/irwin-family-new-show/
Schmoopy had her time in the sun, and now it's someone else's turn.
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She has four of her six "sextuplets" even with her. Even TLC at a certain point has to think they look pretty silly filming a sextuplets show with two of them gone all the time. They know it, whether Kate knows it and accepts it, I doubt it. She's gone three weeks silent on instagram.
That certainly wasn’t “clear” to me from her statement. How lovely of you to disparage this woman. Disgusting.
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I guess you didn't watch the testimony, she could barely breathe. She was an extremely disturbed woman. She has self disclosed mental health issues, including anxiety, claustrophobia (phobia), and post traumatic stress disorder, all three of which are in the DSM-V right there next to everything else. When she herself discloses at least three real mental health issues, I'm not sure how you can sit there and try to argue she doesn't.
I felt really sorry for the woman and found her completely credible. I also found out one of her many degrees is from one of my higher education schools, and searching around, found all positive comments about her from alum, though a bit of confusion this never came up even in a very long relationship, still giving her the benefit of the doubt .
And, I also found him credible, and it was important to finally shine a light on how potentially false or even mistaken or inaccurate or fuzzy allegations can destroy one's life. The media generally said it was a draw. The votes aren't there, so the FBI investigation is going to go forward and see what it turns up. That's what they asked for, and once again, what was asked is being complied with despite that side rarely offering the same courtesy.
I’m a little bewildered by Kate’s absence on social media lately. In the twitter days, she was always soaking up all of the attention she could get. She spent most of her time on social media, unless she was filming or getting her narcissistic fix somewhere else. We know that she isn’t busy with her kids like most moms would be. She never gave a rats behind and never let that distract her anyways. The kids are older anyways and can do things for themselves. So I don’t think she needs the house full of nannies anymore.We know that she dislikes the mediocre life and “getting away” for some privacy isn’t her thing. If she were busy filming, she would be occasionally pop on and tease that something “BIG” was coming. She has said very little. Really nothing of substance. I wonder what the deal is? Unless she’s too embarrassed and feels like a failure. She’s been away from Instagram a lot
Admin (148)
Yes, TLC knows it's stupid to try to sell a sextuplets show with only 4 kids. But then they decide to try to do a show with just Kate. As I have asked before--who takes the least popular character from a failure of a show and expects anything short of dismal failure from trying to sell her? That's why I really think they were contractually obligated to film a certain number of episodes, and are just filming to fulfill that obligation so they can close the books on the Gosselins for good. Kate said she had no idea why the last season was only 3 episodes--that's a lie. She'd never let them off the hook without an explanation, and without filming every episode they signed on to do last season.
A family member who watched the show mentioned something interesting. Both times the show was halted (in 2011 and then last year) she was shown treating the crew like her personal servants. In the RV episode, she had her little fit where she told them to "stop playing 'we're filming a tv show' and get some real work done" (meaning: stop doing your job and do manual labor for me). Then, in the Halloween party episode, she complained about how there's too much to do and says, "If you (meaning the crew) would just ask how you can help me...". It's appears that, when she starts treating them all like servants, TLC decides to show her who's really in charge (hint: it's not Kate). The same family member also mentioned Kate's epic meltdown in the Halloween party episode about all the work she had to do, but said she actually did very little work. She made "finger" sandwiches and glued wrapping paper onto a box for Leah's costume, then did nothing but stomp around and complain. Jamie finished the lights at the barn, Jamie and the kids decorated outside, Jamie and the kids helped make the food, Jamie and the kids helped complete Leah's costume. The barn was decorated by a member of the crew. The least little bit of effort on Kate's part is grounds for a tantrum. That gets old.
Kate only used Twitter when there was something in it for her. She was trying to build up more viewers to keep her show on tv.
Kate switched to Instagram and continued with the same thing. There doesn’t seem to be anything in it for her so she’s not posting.
If she wants fans to think she has custody of her kids she posts. She only posts when she has an agenda.
Derick Dillard posted a picture of himself at school with his KIDS...Jill brought his dinner to school so they could all eat together! Has the pool started for when he's going to throw in the towel?
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I’m a little bewildered by Kate’s absence on social media lately.
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Her last IG post was on 6 September and she was in a picture that Jamie posted on 20 September. Jamie’s husband passed away suddenly and Kate flew out to support her. I have to give Kate props because she didn’t post about it making it all about her.
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Derick Dillard posted a picture of himself at school with his KIDS...Jill brought his dinner to school so they could all eat together! Has the pool started for when he's going to throw in the towel?"
It only took him a few months to quit his job at Walmart HQ after he married Jill. I vote he will be out by the end of the term.
Regarding the TLC money, during 19 kids and counting all the money from the show went into a trust. The Duggars would draw money from the trust as needed. I wonder if this is still the case. Jim Bob is smart when it comes to handling money. Derick could be telling the truth that he never got a paycheck for being on the show if it went into the trust. He has received a lot of money through the Duggar family and I am certain they helped fund his missioncation to SA.
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Sorry but I know narcissists and I don’t believe for a second that Kate would go to “support” Jamie just to really support her. Personally I believe Kate went because there’s no way she could not go without looking bad. I know a few “Kates” and there’s always a motive.
Kate used to love twitter/IG because she could soak up constant praise from her fans. Now, of course, things have changed. First was sending Collin away and all the questions that came with it. For the first time she couldn't get her fans to attack the non-fans and defend her, because how do you defend a mother who banishes her own child? Then the show came to a sudden stop, and there were more questions that she didn't want to answer. And then Hannah left to go live with Jon. Kate tried to control the narrative by having her source tell People mag that she has custody of all the kids (remember, if it doesn't come from Kate herself then it's a lie!) but someone else posted the legal documents and exposed her as a liar. What is she supposed to do now? She's been exposed as a liar, two of her kids are gone, nobody is defending her, people keep asking when she's coming back on TV and even she doesn't know how to answer. A few dog pictures didn't help. I don't think she has any idea how to proceed right now, so she's avoiding social media. Once her new show is set to start she'll be all over it, but until then she's got nothing positive to share.
Sorry but I know narcissists and I don’t believe for a second that Kate would go to “support” Jamie just to really support her. Personally I believe Kate went because there’s no way she could not go without looking bad. I know a few “Kates” and there’s always a motive.
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I think she does care for Jamie. Likely it's pretty one sided, and she may be going more because of what time with Jamie does to boost her emotional bank versus selflessly going to support a beloved friend, but it's not unusual for a narcissist to have a few friends they are time and again there for.
You know actually one thing frustrating about a narcissist is they can behave quite normally sometimes, such that when a victim of the narcissist, such as their child or their employee, tries to discuss what they've endured, others may say well that makes no sense, she is so nice to me, so caring to me, so generous. You must be mistaken.
Yeah well, she puts on a good act.
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it's not unusual for a narcissist to have a few friends they are time and again there for.
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I agree, but there’s nothing genuine about it. Those friendships are always there to fill the narcissist’s needs. They will “be there” for their friends until it’s no longer serving a purpose for them. Narcissists can maintain “friendships” for years.
Kate and Jamie’s relationship does puzzle me. It seems that Jamie puts up with a lot and has really been there for Kate. I’m not sure what she gets out of the friendship, although she did get to be on TV. Narcissists usually maintain friendships with people who have their own needs that also get filled by the friendship.
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Yeah well, she puts on a good act.
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Exactly. And they can maintain that act for years as long as there’s something in it for them.
Sorry but I know narcissists and I don’t believe for a second that Kate would go to “support” Jamie just to really support her. Personally I believe Kate went because there’s no way she could not go without looking bad. I know a few “Kates” and there’s always a motive
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I agree. Makes me feel that maybe Jamie asked her not to say anything. Her instagram is private for a reason and I’m sure she wants to keep this tragedy private. It’s makes me think of the interview Kate had with Natalie Morales. Kate went on how upset that her “friends” were being tormented by the media because the paparazzi wouldn’t leave Kate alone. Then Kate mentioned Jamie by name- to the camera- in from of hundreds of viewers. Doh! So much for preserving your friends privacy Kate.
I guess J started appearing in future episodes after her cover was blown?
For my wedding, I asked a childhood narcissist friend to stand up to my wedding. She was also married to one and has a father and sister who are also narc. I wanted to keep my bridal party small ,but hubby wanted an extra friend to stand up and he needed a partner. My friend said she would gladly stand up to “help us out”. On the surface, she and her family are kind, generous people. But everything they do is motivated by attention etc.They like to come off as “selfless” to anyone around them. But clearly it’s the opposite. So it was nothing more than an ego trip for her and it showed. Lesson learned
Kate went on how upset that her “friends” were being tormented by the media because the paparazzi wouldn’t leave Kate alone. Then Kate mentioned Jamie by name- to the camera- in from of hundreds of viewers. Doh! So much for preserving your friends privacy Kate.
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I have a vague memory now that you say that that we saw Jamie around for what amounts to a very long time, yet didn't know her identity.
Kate and Jamie’s relationship does puzzle me. It seems that Jamie puts up with a lot and has really been there for Kate. I’m not sure what she gets out of the friendship, although she did get to be on TV. Narcissists usually maintain friendships with people who have their own needs that also get filled by the friendship.
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From the portions we have seen about Jamie especially on the RV trip, there are a heck of a lot of qualities about her I like. I think there is a good person in there, a good mother, and I see no evidence Jamie herself has narcissistic qualities. I like her sense of fairness among the children, and her ability to call out BS when she sees it.
So why is she friend with Kate when she's clearly emotionally far and away better than her? I have suspected it could be a self esteem thing. Not self assured enough about herself to let a toxic friend go and with that letting the cameras and niche small time fame and validation go, little that is left of it. It also could simply be the ethics and values of loyalty. She met Kate long before the fame and they found something in common enough to bond, and if she's been there for her this long, it might not be in Jamie's wheelhouse of who she is to just drop a friend like that after all this time. Notwithstanding I hope she knows Kate would drop her at any time if she wants.
Well said Layla!
Wasn't it Jamie who said that, when Kate found fame, she "watched the love go out of her eyes", or something like that? Apparently she once knew a kinder, more loving Kate, so maybe she hangs on because she's hoping the old Kate somehow reappears, or believes that old Kate is still in there somewhere. Maybe she still thinks the old Kate is the "real" Kate. There has to be some reason she hangs around.
Only a week to go before the Gosselin twins turn 18. I've always thought of Mady and Cara as the 'accidental' stars of the show, the tups being the major attraction. I really thought Kate would have somehow arranged for some media attention to this milestone but here we are only a week to go and nothing. It has to be because there are so many questions about how few of the 'tups' she has living with her.
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#NookiePookie has returned. From wherever she was. Oh and Zorro makes a cameo appearance in pic #2---maybe he's been away with Collin?
kateplusmy8 Part of our zoo❤️.Wouldn’t have it any other way! #HumanAndFurKids #Zorro #Nanuq #Love❤️
bonniehaeberle Sweet little Zorro! How old is he now? Looks like he still has a fun time hanging out with everyone. 🐦❤️
kateplusmy8@bonniehaeberle He’s 5 already!! Hard to believe! He joined our family when he was 6 months old!!!
sara.orton2 Is the bird asleep like that!?
kateplusmy8@sara.orton2 yep! Alexis taught him that! He loves it.. almost even has a smile on his face (if that’s possible for a bird!:)
Only 55 comments in 2 hours. And no reply to any "When is your show coming back?" queries.
Sad but true (#168), maybe TFW is trying to revive "K+8" with Zorro and Nanuq replacing C and H. Feathers! Fur! Fun!
It’s been 14 hours and there are only 78 comments. That’s gotta hurt! I guess she let her bot subscription expire. I wonder how old the picture is because NookiePookie looks kind of small for a two year old king shepherd. Maybe it’s just the camera angle. Nookie sure does have her eye on Zorro who is dangling off the hoodie string.
I suspect TFW emerged from hiding now to set the stage for the inevitable poke-and-dab "my babies are 18" post next week.
FlimsyFlamsy (171)
One week from today the twins will be 18. No more childhood to sell. If Kate could have gotten a birthday episode out of it, she would--but I doubt that TLC would bite. The twins' 16th birthday was a big thing, and they'll expect nothing less for their 18th. Without TLC, Kate will be on the hook for it. That's only one of the (many) lingering problems caused by reality TV. High expectations and no filming budget to pay for it. Did they go on a vacation last summer? I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is "no". How about back-to-school boutique shopping? That is the only episode of K+8 that I have actually watched, and--as I said before--I have been to a couple of those boutiques with my niece. I know what their clothes cost, and the things Kate, Mady, and Cara got cost thousands. The excuse for that kind of shopping was that M&C could wear their own clothes now instead of uniforms. Well, the same is true for this school year, but somehow I suspect they had to lower themselves to shopping at Boscov's, plus maybe a trip to the outlet malls in Lancaster. There's nothing wrong with going to the mall and the outlets, but she has set their expectations very high, and now she can't--or won't--continue to provide them with the things they were accustomed to getting. She wanted the twins to have some "choice items" that nobody else would have. Now they probably have to settle for the same things everyone else has.
FlimsyFlamsy (169)
Shoka and Mak will be needed to fill in for Mady and Cara, who can no longer be forced to film. So it'll be 4 kids, 3dogs and a bird. Yep, that makes 8!
Layla Said @ 172 - Now that TLC is not picking up the tab, TFW may be shopping at Target or, horrors, Walmart.
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"So it'll be 4 kids, 3dogs and a bird."
A Xmas special. Four exploited kids, 3 barking dogs, and a Zorro in a pear tree.
ncgirl 175.......hehe
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Good one!
Watching sweet home sextups..... Courtney is so much nicer than kart! kart must be seething....
Did anyone notice that the dad on the Busby show quit his job? Same script, right? And they got a trip to Hawaii also. I say again, kart is likely apoplectic... or drinking
Did anyone notice that the dad on the Busby show quit his job? Same script, right? And they got a trip to Hawaii also. I say again, kart is likely apoplectic... or drinking
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I haven't seen anything other than the commercials for the show, but that guy scares me way more than Kate. I totally get the "I could snap and kill my whole family" vibe from him.
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Layla Said @ 172 - Now that TLC is not picking up the tab, TFW may be shopping at Target or, horrors, Walmart.
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Schmoopy should probably stay out of Target. My Target has prominent stand alone displays of beautiful hardbound cookbooks by both Chrissy Teigen and Reese Witherspoon. I flipped thru the pages of both and didn't see any pictures of their kids, just well-taken photos of yummy food.
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I have Chrissy Teigen's new cookbook, and her recipes are so good! I love her first cookbook, too. She does have a few pictures of her daughter in the recent one, but not many. Luna is eating with both parents in the pictures, instead of being posed with uneaten food or empty bowls like Kate's kids were. And definitely no pictures with sloppy Joe sauce smeared all over her face.
I've watched the episode of Sweet Home Tups and, I'm sorry to say this, but I liked it. Courtney seems to be really into her family and her husband also seems to be genuine. They have support from all of their family members and friends. I just hope that they don't get caught up in the everyone owes me because I have sextuplets.
Kate must be fuming mad that another family has stolen her spotlight. The twins will be 18 in a few months and I think this will be the beginning of the end of anything regarding Kate.
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I don't get MTV anymore, Playstation removed it. I'm on a business trip and happened to catch MTV in my hotel, sure enough it was the new Teen Mom with Bristol Palin.
Who should show up right away but the lovely Piper, the savvy little girl who had Kate's number from the get-go. She's all grown up now and folks, she is drop dead gorgeous! What a treat to see her again.
I watched Teen Mom as well with my daughter.We've watched off and on for however long it's been on- 9 years? They claim it's made the birthrate to teen mothers go down.I'm not sure why they added Bristol whose life seems to be in bad shape.Her son is better behaved though since Celebrity Wife Swap with single mom Melissa Rivers.She was a teen mom though.Hew new husband has bad PTSD and I believe they are now divorced so I wonder when this was filmed.Her kids have odd names too, Sailor and Atlee.If I'm not mistaken Tripp will be on DWTS Junior, Bristol has had a show called Life's a Tripp and was on CWS and her mother's Alaska show. I think she's cashing in on her celebrity mom and status as a single mom.
The other girl I find annoying with her nasal voice- Cheyenne..She was NOT a teen mom but was on a couple of MTV shows though.
Sorry if this goes through twice!
Admin (#182), isn't Piper the little girl TFW asked, "Why would you want to pretend you're homeless?" when the child was excited about camping?
What an incredibly display of immaturity on TFW'S part. Classic narc behavior -- metaphorically pooping in the Palins' punch bowl because they were having a blast and she wasn't the center of attention.
Imagine whining about a paid vacation for which you get a SALARY to boot. Things were pretty cushy back then for TFW, but those days are long gone. Bet she'd kill to eat a moose dog in the rain with the TLC cameras rolling about now.
Admin (#182), isn't Piper the little girl TFW asked, "Why would you want to pretend you're homeless?" when the child was excited about camping?
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Yes. Kate was so insensitive to her. She was just a little girl. I also recall even worse, Kate recoiled at the moose hotdogs directly after Piper had just said it was her favorite food her mom made. What the heck?
It kind of gives me a bit of "nah nah" feeling to see that Piper has grown up to be so gorgeous. Screw you Kate.
I watched Teen Mom as well with my daughter.We've watched off and on for however long it's been on- 9 years? They claim it's made the birthrate to teen mothers go down
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I think the biggest factors is removal of the stigma of getting birth control, better and easier birth control (implants are a breeze for young women) and the privacy surrounding it so you don't even have to tell your parents. But I don't think Teen Mom has hurt the issue.
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I read your post about Schmoopy's heyday and the title song from The Way We Were popped into my head. Memories light the corners of my mind, misty water-colored memories . . .
A highlight reel of all the trips and goodies she received back then with that song in the background would be a good gift for her. Because when all the kids leave, that is what she will have left.
Susan1956 (#188), yeah, I'd love to see that film clip put together. Think Bill Blankinship is available?
There's a new season of DWTS, and I can't help but wonder how things could have been different for TFW if she hadn't been such a difficult cow. I could absolutely see her scoring an invitation some time this month to sit in the audience with M and C as they turn 18. But she torched that bridge.
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Bet she'd kill to eat a moose hot dog in the rain with the TLC cameras rolling about now.
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She most certainly would. She was so full of herself back then. She really thought she was a major star and deserved red carpet, first-class treatment wherever she went. Remember the scene in the first RV episode, when she and Jamie were boarding an RV, she turned to Jamie and sarcastically said, "Oh, the life of a princess". She thought she was waaayyyy too good for a lowly RV trip. That's the same one where she was whining and telling the crew to stop filming and "get some real work done here, because I'm really done". No wonder her kids were talking about wanting a servant. And of course, there was her claim that "we don't take posh trips". OMG, really??? Hawaii, Australia, New Zealand, a helicopter ride to the top of a glacier. Sounds pretty posh to me! It still makes me laugh to think of how, when her attitude got too far out of hand, TLC pulled the rug right out from under her. Then she had to come to grips with the reality of the situation. She wasn't a huge star, nobody else but TLC wanted her, and she was not entitled to special treatment. I just hope she's gone for good this time.
https://people.com/crime/willis-clan-daughter-talks-dad-rape-arrest-new-album/?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag&utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
A story on the Willis family who had a TLC show, and their father was sexually abusing the children.
Bluebird, I haven't watched anything on TLC in years and I never plan to again. I can understand the allure of the multiples a bit, but that channel has gone so far down it just boggles the mind.
Jon has posted a birthday message on Instagram. No picture, birthday wishes.
Well today is the twins’ 18th birthday. I wonder when TFW will post.
Wow, that didn't take long. I guess the tabs are primed for K8's post now.
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/10/jon-gosselin-wishes-estranged-daughters-happy-birthday-twins-mady-cara-18-adults/
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Well today is the twins’ 18th birthday. I wonder when TFW will post.
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Kind of strange that she hasn't posted yet. I thought Jon's IG post was very tasteful and somewhat private (no throwback pictures for the new adults to be embarrassed about:). Thought for sure we'd see an article in people.com by this time of the day. Doubt we'll see a People cover story--should have been last week and there's too much going on in other areas to focus on a D-lister who makes her living off her multiples. I'm betting on a birthday dinner post sometime tonight.
As I was typing this, I checked her IG again. The birthday post is up in all it's glory. Turbulent times? Whose fault was that?
Looks like she baked.
kateplusmy8Getting ready.........it’s a BIG busy day here! More to come....
HAPPY 18th Birthday, Cara and Madelyn! There are no words to describe how proud I am of you both. Despite the many turbulent times you’ve had to deal with so far in life, you have emerged as wise, level headed, reasonable, forgiving, loving, kind and absolutely brilliant ADULTS! I can say that I’ve poured endless love into you and fought tooth and nail for the best for you, but I cannot possibly take credit for the truly wonderful humans (adult humans!) you have become! You will thrive in life, I am certain, and I will still be with you every step of the way going forward, continuing to guide you and love you😘😘. I love you both so very very much and I wish peace, happiness and the great successes I know are coming your way! #Turning18 #Adults #Love❤️❤️ #Happy18thBirthdayCara 🎂🎈🎁#Happy18thBirthdayMady 🎂🎈🎁
"and I will still be with you every step of the way going forward, continuing to guide you and love you😘😘"---sounds ominous, doesn't it? And I don't know how she's raised "forgiving" adults when that word isn't in her vocabulary. Oh well.
There's three photos to show her party prep, but alas, it's paper plates again. Sure doesn't look like a TLC party.
"and I will still be with you every step of the way going forward, continuing to guide you and love you😘😘"---sounds ominous, doesn't it? And I don't know how she's raised "forgiving" adults when that word isn't in her vocabulary. Oh well.
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Hopefully they’ll escape to college for a taste of real life, without cameras and especially without TFW suffocating them as she “guides” them. If the twins are so”forgiving” maybe they’ll find room in their hearts to let Jon back in. If they sign up to do a show on TLC (ONLY SPECULATION) the most TFW can hope to get is a cameo or a cut as their momager (if they’re dumb enough to let her take that role) since they’re adults and will collect their own paychecks.
Seven cups of those personalized M&Ms..four tups, two twins and Mommy. Guess her favorite number will have to be 7..or 6 kids...or 4 when the twins go to college if they do go. It will be interesting to see what choices Mady and Cara make for their futures.
Wonder how C ollin is doing..I had hoped he'd be with Jon by now.But who knows!
You will thrive in life, I am certain, and I will still be with you every step of the way going forward
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Ha. She has no clue what it’s going to be like having adult children, she’s delisional. Their future spouses will have something to say about mother in law being there “every step of the way.” 😂
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