John also told the publication Hannah was mentally tortured by Kate, child protective services received over 50 reports of abuse in Kate's home they investigated, and that all of the children have poor social skills he attributes to the isolation of their childhoods. Collin and Hannah now live full time with Jon. Read more here.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 247 of 247 Newer› Newest»It will be interesting to see how TLC handles all of this, if indeed they go ahead with this October 1 episode. My guess is, LOTS of filler with the twins, very few shots of the tups, LOTS of Mommy crying in her beer as the twins depart.
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Watch, there's going to be a good 20 minutes of old clips while Kate rewrites history or makes snide comments about the clips.
Admin (#200), bless your heart, you're commenting about this as if it's, you know, REAL. This is not about a mother doing something nice for her children. This is a TV show. She'll go where TLC tells her to go, and spend what TLC gives her to spend. It's all staged, with every minute accounted for and every penny budgeted. Then it's up to the director and the film editor to try to make a silk purse out of a horse's ass.
It still gets me when I think about how she didn't go out on any of the boys' special days like she did the girls. All these years later and the thought of it just still sickens me.
Cara is trying to forge a new life for herself in college. I wonder how she feels about this.
Sandylove (#3), yes, she couldn't be bothered to go "hither, thither and yon" for any dirty, icky boy. Yet Jon went to every one of his daughters' special days.
Admin,
I apologize if this has been discussed previously, but I just discovered Jon's Daily Mail interview and the comments here and wanted to post before even more time passed.
Someone in the medical field, either locally to TFW or with the state of PA (who has the authority) was obviously involved in the initial admission of Colin to the facility and then complicit in his transfers and then keeping him there for 3+ years.
I think Jon is just happy to finally have Colin home with him and probably isn't interested in an investigation and/or pressing charges, etc but...
Admin, shouldn't the people, ie: the administrators, staff, doctors at the facilities where Colin was held, have to answer for keeping Colin institutionalized for so long without a legitimate reason/diagnosis. ADHD is not a diagnosis that could be the legitimate basis for his extended stay.
Or, am I living a too sheltered life, and does this kind of thing - parents throwing away a child the way TFW did to Colin and the institutions willingly going along with it - happen every day? I just don't understand how TFW and the powers at the institutions involved can legally and ethically get away with what they did to Colin.
Back to reading the comments trying to catch up.
Admin, shouldn't the people, ie: the administrators, staff, doctors at the facilities where Colin was held, have to answer for keeping Colin institutionalized for so long without a legitimate reason/diagnosis. ADHD is not a diagnosis that could be the legitimate basis for his extended stay.
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Just speculation of course but it wouldn’t surprise me if TFW paid to have him placed in the various institutions as a voluntary commitment for troubled youth. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I think that he’d probably had enough of the abuse and struck back. That would have been enough for her to put him away as a danger to his family. I’m sure that if she did do this she took it out of his money because she was just trying to help him be the best Collin he could be.
I don't know if I read it here, or somewhere else but look up and read about what is referred to as the "Identified patient." It all but has Collin's picture next to it. For a child as young as he was, more than likely the institution will believe the parent regardless. I just question why he was not allowed to contact any family members whatsoever. This was obviously instructed by Kate. I can't imagine any situation that this would be beneficial to a child's health. It was done to keep him out of her way and quiet.
The Identified Patient is usually easily discovered to be the child of a narcissistic parent. The staff did not have the authority to inform because Kate had that covered. But there will be another child soon. Kate will find a replacement for Collin & Hannah to terrorize.
It just occurred to me next week's college extravaganza is going to air on a Tuesday, and not a Monday like usual. Guess when you're a side piece, you get what you get and you don't get upset.
Flimsy, those TFW expressions bring back bad memories...hither, thither and yon, you get what you get, as well as I'm in charge among others...she spoke so oddly yet had the gall to say she has gift o' the gab and corrected Jon's grammar, and said a misspelled word cause panic in her
NJGal51 said,
Just speculation of course but it wouldn’t surprise me if TFW paid to have him placed in the various institutions as a voluntary commitment for troubled youth. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I think that he’d probably had enough of the abuse and struck back.
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I agree with you about an incident taking place and TFW snapping and disposing of her 'problem'.
The address in Collin's plea to Jon is for Fairmount Behavioral Hospital, so TFW had to have had some kind of a medical professional help her get Collin admitted initially and then keep him and transfer him. IMO, the whole thing stinks and is highly suspect for some kind of fraud and/or unethical practices and more than just TFW is responsible (at least for the length of time he was held).
My heart breaks for what Collin had to endure.
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It just occurred to me next week's college extravaganza is going to air on a Tuesday
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They were actually smart enough not to put it on during Mon. Night football. I was hoping they had til I looked at the calendar.
I think Alexis will be the next victim. She and Collin were always so close and seem to have the same qualities. She needs the 2 remaining boys for the heavy lifting.
The address in Collin's plea to Jon is for Fairmount Behavioral Hospital, so TFW had to have had some kind of a medical professional help her get Collin admitted initially and then keep him and transfer him.
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Maybe she was able to keep moving him for his own “safety and well-being” based on the fact that she’s a “celebrity” and she did t want the paps hounding the facility because they (read that as Jon not the paps) might know where he is. Again, just speculation. I keep stating that it’s speculation on my part because in the past some people on twitter have taken it as gospel.
Possible Kate is going to have a LOT to answer for come when her children are adults.
Not a doubt in my mind that the staff at Fairmount knew all about Kate & what she was doing with Collin. Kate rarely visited & only stayed for minutes. But they had their hands tied. They weren't the bad guys in this situation.
I don't remember the sequence of events, but she either moved Collin to keep him from Jon, or she moved him because Fairmount was pushing her buttons. They knew Collin didn't need to be there. I have no doubt that the staff was on to her within minutes.
I remember Kate mentioning (I think on the show, or an interview), that she was investing in Colin's future like it was college. So, that leads me to believe she actually paid to have him live there (and used his college fund for it). I don't know about the rules/requirements for some of these facilities, but if it was a place for kids with behaviourial issues, isn't it the same as some parents sending their kids off to these camps we hear about to calm them down?
Regardless, she will stay quiet, and I'm sure People Mag will publish a stupid story in the next few days about this college episode. She'll get paid for pics, and that will tide her over for a bit.
But somehow I get the feeling actually she'll end up not answering for any of it now that I think about it. That she'll just be able to go on with her life and leave all the damage that's been done as if it's just trash you leave on the side of the road that YOU dumped but that in the back of your mind you think don't worry someone else will just pick it up so it's not really that big of a deal if I don't pick up the damage I cause by leaving it here. That's the impression I get from her as a mother. So what I film the kids it's not REALLY hurting them it's not really about THEM as long as I get what's important to ME.
I get the sense that her son whatever what went on, so what if his feelings were involved as long as I'm able to go with whatever version of MY life is important to ME, not him, not anyone else. So long as the version of her life in her head looks like what it looks like to HER I don't think she's going to answer for anything or to anyone so long as what it looks like to herself that's I think is all that is going to actually matter.
Oh lord I hope there's not another book in her future that she felt compelled to write for her kids so that they'll "have that to look back on," or whatever spin she'll sell just so she'll earn some money off that. How sad is that? She seems to feel the need to write for her kids not for any personal reasons that other mother's do, but she feels the need to write and publish so she can earn money. That's sick. It was never actually personal for her kids, like that cookbook because if it had been just for her kids it would have been called a recipe book just for the kids she wouldn't have needed to publish that.
I remember reading that Kate claimed Collin's diagnosis was "fluid". That says to me that there was no definitive diagnosis. Without a definitive diagnosis. insurance is not going to pay. She must have paid using the money from Collin's trust. I definitely hope he can sue once he's of age. She unilaterally decided to spend his money on care he didn't need. People have speculated that he hit or hurt someone, but nobody involved in the situation has ever said he hurt anyone. Kate is all too happy to let people make negative assumptions about her son, which is just disgusting. I think the truth of the matter is that he was having resisting filming, and Kate had to make a choice. She chose filming, of course.
Kate lets people believe he has "anger management " issues. Yet, she hasn't gone to court to rescue Hannah from him. If he was truly a "danger" to anyone, a judge or doctor would have stepped in to protect her. Hannah simply being there contradicts what she says about Collin. She either exaggerated some situation, or she flat out lied about it.
Rumor had it that Collin was moved out of the boys bedroom and placed elsewhere in the basement area, and that he was not allowed to take his meals with the rest of them. It was also said that the kids were instructed to shun Hannah. I believe all of that. Maybe it isn't true but it does sound as if it could be plus worse things.
"Guess when you're a side piece, you get what you get and you don't get upset."
The lead in show before her is Outdaughtered which is very popular and gets big ratings. It's about a couple with one older daughter and girl quintuplets. The mother is close to her mother, sisters and their families. Guess she's hasn't kicked them out of her life like good old Kate. TLC has to give Kate a big lead in to bolster her ratings.
My heart just breaks whwn I read the note that C wrote. Coming from an abusive background, I can relate to this boy's plea for help. I am so happy for c and H and I hope the rest of the kids realize that someom=ne is there for them, and it's not Mommie Dearest.
Its been a while sine i checked Kate's TL and i saw this.Has this person been living under a rock?Two of the kids aren't even with kate.
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Kate did a fantastic job bringing up the kids alone without a cent from the 🐳 and especially dealing with one the has a disability. It is a very hard job, yet she did it alone with him. 7 other kids and herself. God bless her
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Yuck. I just saw a preview of kate plus 8. Whoever said kate would be "poking and dabbing" was right. "Just so painful"...as she dabs away.
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ncgirl (#23), it'll be interesting to see the ratings drop off from the bright and shiny Busbys to the worn out, woe-is-me TFW.
It was also said that the kids were instructed to shun Hannah.
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I have often wondered if that is what Kate's parents did to her. The last straw may have been when she didn't want any of the beds or clothing gathered for her by the church. I remember her father being very embarrassed & angry with her for that.
Formerly Duped (#11), I just remembered another haunting line from many years ago. TFW was talking about Mady's behavioral issues (on national TV, like any good mother would), and said, "Never give up on Mady." It was such a bizarre way to speak about her own child. She said something like, Mady just needs a wheelbarrow-ful of attention and love to thrive.
Apparently C needed that same kind of nurturing. I think that was the root of his "helper boy" persona: he hoped he could earn his mother's love. But it didn't work, and she "gave up" on C.
CANNOT believe the 4 other kids are in the episode, just saw the trailer!!! I was really hoping that maybe they weren't. And it looks like current footage because they look so grown up. I hate Kate more and more every day!!!
So TLC has posted a "sneak peek" of what they're calling a "special" on the K8 FB page. There is a talking heads scene of the four tups, so it appears the minors are filming. I wonder if Jon gave permission.
I think Jon's permission for filming Kate plus 8 was "given" (forced) from Jon many years ago. I saw Jon specifically say he would not give permission for the tups to film Kate plus date. And he recently referred to this current filming. He appears horrified by it asking why his kids have to continue to "
support their mother". The clip I saw last night, showed Kate once again doing activities with the tups
screaming and carrying on as she ALWAYS does. It is so old. So so boring and truly unwatchable.
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Yes, it's funny Mady is now the BFF/clone since TFW was always criticizing her, from her teeth-brushing to her behavior and left a note in her lunchbox to be kind. Mady was always mean to the tups, pushing them or grabbing things and often seemed to be in a bad mood. She had her reasons I'm sure but she and her mother did not seem to see eye to eye.I recall Aunt Jodi took her aside and talked to her, at her level, when she pushed another child, and that approach seemed to work better than being 'happied up."
From Dmasy --
I am truly baffled. TLC and MTV have dumped some (but certainly not all) reality stars that have gotten into trouble. TLC lost no time shelving Honey BooBoo's mom when she was shown in photos with a convicted child molester. MTV has canned some of their teen moms and kept others after arrests or child welfare investigations. I don't watch the Reality Wives franchise -- but I am pretty sure they have shuffled through women eliminating ones in sensitive situations.
Kate has caused trouble and embarrassment for TLC on many occasions. Why would they air a new episode? She is a lawsuit stick of dynamite with a short fuse. Surely it can be proved that TLC has been complicit with her sickening behavior.
TLC could get media attention by going public with a stand against Kate. They could be a voice for all concerned and look as if they are taking a moral high ground.
She is the queen of avoiding consequences.
I took a look at the sneak peek on TFB page and it’s the same old, same old. She’s still referring to the remaining 4 as the little kids. They’re still going on vacations paid for by TLC and you have to wonder if the twins would have done a college tour had it not been filmed. The one thing that I found interesting was when she said “We keep having family members leave”. It’s at the very end of the clip. I wonder If that will just be a throwaway line or if it will go anywhere. It’s clear that it’s no longer Kate Plus 8. Another interesting thing was when Mady said that dorm rooms are like prison. She’s going to find out that as small as they are they’re better than the prison she’s been in. A little taste of freedom is going to go a long way.
Dmasy (#34), you could almost understand TLC's reluctance to ditch TFW if she had some special talent or draw they felt was worth the drama. But for pete's sake, what does she have to show for herself besides being the gestational carrier of 2 sets of multiples?
She's proven herself to be a failure as a wife, a mother, a daughter, a sister, a pet parent, a cookbook author, a dancer, a runner, a talk show co-host, a businesswoman, a couponer, a gardener, a blogger, a social media influencer, and awn and awn.
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CANNOT believe the 4 other kids are in the episode, just saw the trailer!!! I was really hoping that maybe they weren't.
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My guess is that Jon gave permission years ago for them to be filmed for Kate Plus 8, so as long as that's the title of the show they probably don't need his consent now. But Kate Plus Date was a new show, therefore TLC needed (and thankfully didn't get) his consent for that.
Where is the trailer? I can't find it on the TLC site? Thanks!
It's going to be interesting to see whether TLC does any promotion for this episode. I hope it's just this one episode and that's it. What a shame that the remaining four hostages had to be forced to film again.
Here's a question - Jon obviously knew they filmed recently since he talked about them having to film and support their jail warden in last week's Daily Mail interview. So, how did Jon find out that they filmed if he doesn't talk to the remaining four? Maybe Hannah heard about it from them and told Jon?
Admin, I feel bad that you have to watch this crap and recap it. What torture. I can't even force myself to watch a clip. As others described, it's predictably just the same old annoying, boring garbage.
Layla, I love your rescued kitty story! How is she doing? Has she managed to completely take over your house (and hearts) yet?
I just read some of the comments on the Kate Plus 8 Facebook page. I honestly thought that the majority of them would be negative and I'm somewhat surprised that so many were positive towards Kate. It's unbelievable how these fans will still defend her, even with the latest news out.
I checked out that "sneak peak". And like every other show they've filmed in the past few years, I won't be watching. These are all such "non events" and are strictly to appease her tween fans and keep her D-Lister lifestyle going. Ugh.
Sandylove #41, I'm not on Facebook but it would be nice if someone posted links there to the Daily Mail articles about Jon's interviews.
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The kitty is now completely in charge. She just has to give one little mew and the dogs scramble to see what might be wrong. She already has more toys than any one cat could possibly need, and she gets tons of love and attention. DS told me that when he found her, there was a plastic bag with two dead kittens in it nearby. She was the only one who survived. I'm just enraged about that. There are shelters everywhere, why would anyone do such a thing? It breaks my heart.
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It's possible that the comments on that page are monitored. I can't imagine that so many people would be accepting of the horrible things Kate has done.
Formerly Duped, it's on the Kate plus 8 Facebook page.
I heard the Busby husband quit his day job saying he wants to concentrate on his kids. Here we go again....this show isn't going to last.
new post with the sneak peek
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