Discussion Thread: Kate Plus Eight "College Bound" 10/1/2019
SEASON 7 • EPISODE 1
Kate finds a way to combine Mady and Cara's college tours with a fun vacation for the family. Flash forward a year later and Kate gets ready for the twins to leave the nest and start college.
I just saw a short clip of the show on a Kate Plus 8 fan Instagram page , the one where she was reading her speech from her phone with zero amount of love or compassion in her voice. That was the first thing that struck me, the second thing that struck me was how uncomfortable all the kids looked as she read it.
Sandylove (#3), she really can't pull off the warm-and-fuzzy stuff, can she? The kids' discomfort was a sure sign that they were doubting Mommie Dearest's sincerity. In other words...heifer, please.
Clark (193) We have speculated here that Kate will end up in a "Grey Gardens" kind of situation. She'll become an impoverished recluse hanging on desperately to a mansion she can't afford to maintain and which is crumbling around her ears. I would not be at all surprised if that became her reality.
I also have enormous respect for Octomom. She and the kids do charity work together, they run 5Ks for charity, and she takes care of all 14 of them herself, including her severely autistic son--and she works. She has truly proven herself to be a strong woman. I don't know if I could do all that she does. In fact, I really doubt that I could.
OT, but--Wegmans shoppers, I just tried the most amazing thing! We had a gathering of friends at a neighbor's house last night, and everyone brought a dish. One lady brought crackers, cheese and Wegmans balsamic cherries. The cherries were just incredible on crackers with bleu cheese or cheddar. Her spread was the only thing completely wiped out. I highly recommend it--all of it, but especially the balsamic cherries. The cheese was also from Wegmans and was really good too. I'm heading out to get some today. I would never have thought of buying balsamic cherries--I love finding really delicious new things.
The kids really called her out on her bullshit this time. Like “mom hasn’t cooked in a year”. So who cooks Kate?? And she lamented about Hannah not being there but said nothing about Collin. She is pure evil. Those girls were quite clear that they were very excited about being released from the kompound. Leah had no problem pointing out all of tfw’s dramatics. Wonder what Jon, Hannah and Collin thought about her comments? I will definitely read their books that are sure to be coming down the line. When tfw got teary eyed about all of them leaving in the next few years, the only sadness i believe she had was that she won’t be on tv anymore.
Layla said... she takes care of all 14 of them herself, including her severely autistic son
That autistic son is in a literal locked cage though. In an upstairs bedroom. That's not right. All of the octuplets sleep in one room, too. I mean, I get that space is limited but that's not healthy. In terms of age. Puberty is going to set in. Kind of like asking for trouble. I'm surprised that it is legal.
Wowser, that stupid TLC prick deliberately just asked about Hannah, not Colin. Blame him for the softball question. WTF didn’t he ask about Colin? Why? Why? Because they don’t put their star on the hot seat. Ever. What if they did ask her about Colin as well. Imagine the fallout. I despise her more than ever.
lurker (9) I haven't seen a thing about her locking her son away in a bedroom. Where did you hear that? I've read that her home is very, very small. I'm surprised she'd even have a room to devote to just one child.
You're welcome, T! I remember we had a good discussion about CWS and one person also posted the Chore Chart duties as best she could.I alwsy wondered how the house could get so dirty/messy when the kids were at school all say!
Paper Plates (#11), I guess to TLC, that little boy was just a cast member and not a human being.
My mind just flashed to a scene when C was a toddler trying to fit a sippy cup into the trunk of a little car he was driving, and was getting frustrated that it wouldn't work. He was a sweet, helpful, pudgy little thing. And TLC is complicit in trying to gaslight America into thinking he never existed.
I remember that! He also wanted to fit a doll in there too. Nana Janet was there and she was so patient with him. Those are the same cars I think (Cozy Coupes) that Collin always brought inside and lined up for Mommy as helper boy. He got upset sometimes when things didn't go his way but was a loving helpful sweet little boy and tried so hard to make Mommy love him
I went to the iTunes Store to check on this episode and it’s listed as Season 0 which leads me to believe that it may only be a special and not the start of a new season. It was pretty boring and mediocre. The remaining 4 tups don’t seem to have much charisma. As others have said I find them all referring to TFW as “mother” to be a little odd, especially when they’re talking directly to her. We’ve all been through the “moootheeeer” but that’s the exception rather than the rule. Collin and Hannah are lucky because they look much happier and more relaxed than any that are still with TFW.
Layla said... I haven't seen a thing about her locking her son away in a bedroom. Where did you hear that?
Didn't hear it. Saw it on an update video. He's not simply locked into a room. He's literally locked into a wooden cage IN A ROOM. Google and you'll find it. It's out there.
lurker (17) I couldn't find anything about a cage, but I did see in an update that he sleeps in an adult-size crib right next to her bed. It says that his circadian rhythm is off and he tends to get up in the middle of the night. The crib doesn't have a top on it--it's basically just a large crib. Is that what you're talking about?
I have a son (now almost 22) who has autism. He has had sleep issues all of his life (which, by the way, is quite common with autism). He was never a "runner", but many kids that have autism are -- they "run" or wander and it doesn't matter what time of day. Often they leave their homes (even if they are locked) and wander. Some at night while the family sleeps soundly. Many families try alarms, extra door security, etc to no avail.
It is unfair to say that Octomom keeps her son with autism in a cage. We do not know the circumstances for which he is in a big crib-like bed.
As a parent of a child with autism, I find it astounding that people are so quick to judge what we, as parents of a child with this condition have to do to keep our children safe. I had to have a vest-type "leash" on my son when he was toddler age because he would not hold anyone's hand or would break away when we were out in stores. He was super quick to get away -- this "leash" would prevent him from running away or in front of moving cars. I had people yell at me for this (I also had two of his siblings with me). I didn't like that I had to do this for my son, but keeping him safe was my priority -- no matter what the judgmental public thought.
Pooshanellagoober (#19), thank you for sharing about your personal experience with your son. Clearly his safety is always top of mind for you, no matter how others might judge your decisions. Your insight is important in this conversation. And blessing to you, your son, and your other children as you navigate your challenges.
The people who may never work or live with challenged children or adults rarely have insight into the problems that families or caretakers face. The goal to many of these on the spectrum or challenged in other ways, is paramount and they will strive to achieve that goal without any regard to safety. To try and keep them from harm without harming them is often very hard. An adult size crib or a harness and lead is by far less traumatic than chemical restraint. We have seen sad Kate do that to her child and it was cringe-worthy. I call her sad because she is mentally ill and needs treatment. I see as no different than the homeless person on the street who does not receive treatment and acts out. That she is clean and somewhat articulate is only a small difference. To all the families that keep their challenged children and adults safe in loving and caring ways, I say, when approached by strangers that want to shame you,"when you walk in my shoes, then you can have an opinion. Until then, shut the hell up."
Just read about the Give a Little TLC awards for those who promote kindness and are against all bullying. Whitney Thore won one of these awards. I sure hope TLC didn't even think about giving one to TFW. (And Whitney Thore appears to be filming for her show in France!) M.
Pooshanellagoober said... 19 It is unfair to say that Octomom keeps her son with autism in a cage. We do not know the circumstances for which he is in a big crib-like bed. ************ I absolutely agree with you, which is why I was asking for clarification. I don't consider and adult crib to be a cage at all, and Octo's son is certainly not placed in a room by himself. She has the crib next to her bed so that if he wakes up in the middle of the night, she will know and be able to make sure he is safe. We were discussing here the respect we all have for her and all she does for her kids, including caring for her autistic child herself. I just couldn't fathom her locking him away somewhere. I have seen articles with pictures of her kids, and one of her octuplets is very close to Aidan and very protective of him, which I think that is wonderful. Kids that age mirror what they see the adults around them doing, and it's obvious that her kids are mirroring compassion and acceptance for their brother. I also saw that she and the kids run charity 5Ks together. They have it rough financially, but are learning young to do for others. She is doing a great job.
Years ago, through some professional connections, I knew a woman who had an adult son who was severely autistic. She devoted her life to him and even went on to found a school for kids with autism, and then a nonprofit organization that established and ran small group homes for adults with severe autism. In her case, her son still lived with her and her husband. He was so volatile that she actually had a "cage"/screen installed in her car between the front seat and back seat like in a police vehicle. That was necessary because he would suddenly lash out and grab her or her husband while they were driving. They also had to keep the safety locks on the back doors and windows so he couldn't open them.
This article says pretty much what all of the tabs have been saying for the past however many days. But:
"Kate seems to be laying low in her fight with Jon," an insider observes.
The source continues: "Which isn’t like her at all."
"Friends say Kate just doesn’t want to open up any old wounds," the insider says.
The source then reveals: "but some say she’s afraid that Jon, now that his gag order has been lifted, might be up to something."
“She’s afraid that Jon might get another show," the insider suggests.
The source notes that this is something "which he’s been pushing for."
That could be a great source of income for him, his girlfriend, and his two teens. And we know that the interest exists.
The insider explains that Kate fears this "and that Hannah, and Collin, might start talking."
"About what?" the source adds. "Kate says she doesn’t know, but of course she does."
"But I know Kate,," the insider adds. "And she won’t stand idly by and let Jon tell his side of the story"
Given the level of justified contempt that this insider feels, this doesn't sound like a family friend. Could this source be a Kate Plus 8 producer?
The source says that Kate won't let Jon talk about her forever "without putting her two cents in.”
So if he keeps talking or does chat about her on this hypothetical show, Kate is sure to hit back.
“The Jon and Kate saga is far from over," the insider characterizes." ----- So, do we buy that a producer on K8+Whatever might actually be speaking out? Despite all the repetition from other tab articles, I think the implication here that this is a producer is new to this one. Personally, I think K8 is less concerned about what Collin or Jon might reveal than about Hannah. Hannah is the only (currently untethered) one who knows the truth of what went down with her brother. And if she talks, I think people are much more likely to believe her over K8. So yeah, I believe K8 is looking over her shoulder all the livelong day.
On another note, how is K8 managing to hold back her usual overwrought missive of LUV for her 19-y/o twins' b'day? Nothing on IG or elsewhere. Is she actually planning to communicate with them privately for a change? What a novel idea.
Sad but true you are absolutely right. I don't think Hannah left her entire life behind for the typical teenage reasons Kate would like the world to believe. The incident at the orthodontist led Kate to imply the most horrendous lie she could make against the father of her children. That implied accusation was disgusting and unforgivable on her part. She honestly never deserves forgiveness for putting her daughter through that. I'm sure there was some sort of investigation and questioning they put that child through. I can't imagine how distraught she must have been. Hannah also knows what happen to Collin. Again, Kate implied he was some sort of "danger" to the other kids. If that were the case, wouldn't Kate have fought to the end to get Hannah back? Not a peep. No showing up in court for either one of these children. Who is stupid enough to believe that if anything Kate said was remotely true, that Hannah would be allowed to stay there by the court? She wouldn't. Kate's day of reckoning is coming and it will probably come at the hands of her favorite child. I can't think of anyone who deserves that fate more than Kate.
Last Tuesday's "special" episode was clearly filler. I just checked my program guide and TLC is airing another two hour episode of Outdaughtered at 8 pm tonight. That's followed at 10 pm by a repeat of last week's two hour premiere (that aired prior to TFW's special last week).
Next Tuesday, Outdaughtered's third episode of the season is only an hour. That's followed at 9 pm with the season premiere of Counting On. Then at 10 pm, they're re-airing tonight's two hour episode of Outdaughtered (episode 2).
It looks like TLC slapped together that "special" episode with segments from last year's NC college tour and "vacation" and the recent send off to college and then just threw it on the air as filler while waiting for the season premiere of Counting On.
Also, I checked last week and again today, and I noticed that TLC has not repeated the special episode at all. It only aired last week and then re-aired once a few hours later (2 am, I think).
Not only with this special episode, but with most of her episodes, I've always wondered why they don't repeat the episodes much, if at all. Scrolling through the program guide last week and today, I see tons of old episodes of other TLC shows airing over and over again. Not even recent episodes, but episodes from 2011(!), 2012, 2014, 2015. I think some of those shows aren't even producing new episodes anymore. It's just curious that they don't air old episodes of FW+4. Does anyone have any guesses why not?
so=Milo missed the dating show and the girls going to college. Where is she? Dead? no longer a fan? A mental institute? Maybe Lites off man told her to stop it?
Kate tried to keep Hannah from Jon by saying their relationship was inappropriate. She was successful at the ER after she hurt Hannah. She was not successful after she lost the last round of appeals in the custody case.
I would not put it above Kate to tell the other kids that Jon was trying to have an inappropriate relationship with them.The kids might believe her because they don't know what a healthy relationship looks like with either parent. They may also bend to her saying it's inappropriate because it makes them less of a target for abuse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOjZAX41BMg go to thirteen min 55 sec. Took me all of a second or two to find it.
Looks like a cage to me. It's locked and he's in it for the majority of the day {and all night} except for his three meals/day.
But if calling it an "adult crib" eases the inhumanity of it, knock yourself out. We'll have to agree to completely disagree over the morality of it.
This isn't the first time I've seen parents do this. I'm well aware of the practise. That's no way to raise a child. Nadya wanting "just one more" {exactly like Kate} when she already had too many children - and one she knew had very special needs - was extremely selfish.
Anyone going to address the fact that eight children going through puberty sleep in one room?
. . . If that were the case, wouldn't Kate have fought to the end to get Hannah back? Not a peep. No showing up in court for either one of these children. _____
Not true. She appealed the ruling over Hannah, but she was denied. I think ROL posted about it back in July 2018. And I think it was shortly after the initial ruling allowing Hannah to move to Jon's (early 2018) that she filed her overdue child support case against Jon. I guess she thought she could force him to change his mind. She's the queen of browbeaters. Or should it be ballbusters?
lurker said... 35 Anyone going to address the fact that eight children going through puberty sleep in one room? ++++++++++++++++++
Umm, All of my siblings & I shared a bedroom. I don't believe it ever occurred to any of us that it was anything but normal. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Umm, All of my siblings & I shared a bedroom. I don't believe it ever occurred to any of us that it was anything but normal. Get your mind out of the gutter.
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Federal regulations require that foster children not share the same bedroom as opposite sex children, whether it be other foster children or children of their foster parents. I guess their minds are in the gutter.
I wonder when the tides turned between Hannah and Mother. I remember them seeming close but of course that was TV. She said she didn't want to change rooms because she wouldn't be as close to TFW...maybe just growing up and the extent of the abuse Collin endured made her rethink her situation. Maybe she even tried to convince L to join her
Mady posted a “19th trip around the 🌞” selfie. Maybe the twins told Kate that they didn’t want her posting anything ridiculous. The FW+4 did leave a comment though: “Happy birthday (again) to my precious GORGEOUS baby girl. It’s been a fun day, and even though we spent it apart, I feel like I was there with you (thanks to our friend ft)! More celebrating to come! Can’t wait! I love you!😘 😘🥰🥰”. I guess she just had to let everyone know that she face-timed with Mady. Also, there were over 17K likes so I guess maybe the FW+4 gave her some “like bots” for her birthday.
Please tell me that I am not the only one who does not notice that it's really weird when Kate says it's not optimal for mom, essentially that her children are getting older to make their own choices? Which is basically what she said.
Kate--it's normal when your children get older that they make their own choices that you flat just don't agree with. It's the process that gets them to being adults in case you missed that? Your children are not supposed to mini-you's. They are not robots. They are not suppose to have YOUR opinions or desires in life. They are suppose to when they become teenagers make their own choices--on wardrobe to a point I mean let's not get crazy here, to a point on what they like, say, do, they form their own minds on just about ever cotton picking thing here.
That's how they learn to become forward thinking INDIVIDUALS. To function on their own without you over your shoulder telling you how to do everything in life so one day when you're no longer around they aren't helpless. Did you miss that lesson in life dear? Not everything they do is optimal but that's the whole point. That's what raising children is about basically. Because if they were meant to be basically like you that would be pretty weird...they're meant to spread their wings and fly.
Optimal for her just sounds like, "It wasn't what I wanted her to do because it makes me look bad for TV and now I can't spin things anymore."
BlueJay said... 41 Please tell me that I am not the only one who does not notice that it's really weird when Kate says it's not optimal for mom, essentially that her children are getting older to make their own choices? _____
But but but they weren't supposed to be able to DO that until they left for college (or she got rid of 'em)! Dontcha know, she owns their asses until they're 18. They were supposed to be filming the show at least until then.
I LOL'ed at her comment, when talking of Hannah choosing to live with Jon, "And I support that." You WHAT? You were in court over this for probably the better part of a year, and you had to be SHUT DOWN by a judge before you'd "support" it. If that's your idea of support, I can't imagine what dealing with you on something you don't support would entail. Probably pistols and seconds at dawn.
lurker (35) That thing looks huge, and there were 3 kids playing in there. The door was open at all times so they could all walk in and out at will. But if it makes you feel better to claim it's a cage for one child, then knock yourself out. This is a child who has a circadian rhythm disorder, who will get up in the middle of the night and roam around the house and possibly get hurt. She is doing whatever she can to make sure he is safe.
As far as 8 kids going through puberty is concerned, the octuplets are 10. I doubt that they are going through puberty yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOjZAX41BMg ************ When you watch Octo's kids, it's amazing to see the difference between her kids and Kate's kids. Remember when Kate swore she couldn't take her kids to the store because it would be too chaotic? Octo and her 8 youngest go grocery shopping and they all pitch in and help. No chaos, no misbehavior, no running around. The kids all seem so articulate and intelligent and respectful, and they rave about what a good mother she is. She's doing something right!
The tide over at the Outdaughtered FB page is changing on Danielle. Lots of comparisons towards Kate now that’s Danielle wants to keep their larger rental with the big yard and swimming pool. She’s spouting how much the girls love the new house and don’t want to move back into the old house (the girls are 4!). And they need the room and privacy (but lets video their every move). Her and Adam are butting heads over it. Good job TLC for creating another “momster”!
kris said... 47 The tide over at the Outdaughtered FB page is changing on Danielle. Lots of comparisons towards Kate now that’s Danielle wants to keep their larger rental with the big yard and swimming pool.
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OMG I was watching it and had the same thoughts. Maybe because I'm wise to TLC ways but I thought, she is really something wanting this house instead of their old one. I felt bad for her hubby who seems to get blindsided by her whims.
I just took a look at the comments. It sure looks like the Busbys are headed down the Gosselin highway, and a lot of people are drawing the comparisons. Does this sound familiar?
XXXXX I also was disappointed in last night's episode. Yes, they have money now. But Danielle always wanting more. Complaining when Adam has to go to Dallas for work. She wanted him home to help, so he quit his job. In the beginning, she begged for the house that's being renovated even tho it was over their budget. And complains that he has to work. If they have the money that is estimated they do, why doesn't she get some help? And now, just willy nilly, let's start a business. How long will it be before the kitchen in the new house is too small? Dale mentioned it last night...tight squeeze.
Mady posted on her private insta “Love you so much! Can’t wait to see you in two weeks. Happy birthday Twinnie!” along with a picture of Cara and herself. So I wonder if Mady is making the trip to NYC to see Cara or if this is the birthday celebration that Kate was implying and “mother” will also come along. But hopefully no filming is involved and it’s just a nice sister sister visit.
kris (#47), yeah, "privacy" is remarkably easy to have when you raise your children without freakin' cameras in their faces. Reminds me of when TFW lamented losing 423 or so trees during #SuperFunSandy because they'd given the house "privacy." Funny, heifer wasn't thinking much about privacy when she had TLC install permanent TV lights in that same house.
About the Busbys, I also read that the family got a dog on last week's episode, and one of the little girls was filmed saying that Mommy "spanks" the dog. Sounds like she's TFW 2.0. Get yer popcorn.
I got some info on Collin from a local. He is doing well, is very polite and sweet, thinks of Colleen as a mom, and thinks not so nice things about his egg donor. Most importantly he gets to see his grandparents. (I was not told which ones)
Didn't someone say they had already bought the new house? They looked it up on some public database... remember this show is filmed way before and they probably don't want to say they bought the house because it would spoil the surprise on the show episode where they debate whether they can afford it, wring hands about the money (that probably is coming from TLC in part as rental of a studio space)...
Then there will be the episode where they sign the papers and have champagne with the realtor mom who made it all happen, so they will all have to thank Mimi.
I agree that Danielle is getting pretty needy and wanty. She said she supported hubby when he wanted to change jobs to Dallas - NOT TRUE! OMG, she whined for several shows about it. And now she wants to start a business.... just a business, she doesn't know what. I don't blame Adam for his position....
UGG. They are better than kart but it's a slippery slope they are going down.
And PS, WHY in the world did they get a dog, and a snappy dog no less. One of those girls will get nipped and then the episode will be about getting rid of the dog. Sigh...…...
One other comparison.... Danielle is certainly not as screechy as kart and I don't think I've seen her lose her temper like kart.
Has Danielle ever SCREAMED at the kids or yanked their arms on the show? kart never thought anything of abusing her kids for all the world to see - the happy up spoon and the laundry room floor...…. gawd she is awful...… her day will come. Hannah will tell her story. And probably get paid a lot for a book.
Danielle Busby is far more likeable than Kate, but she seems to be just like her in that she uses her kids as commodities. The Busbys film their show, and they also have a YouTube channel. The girls have cameras in their faces pretty much non-stop.
I saw this online post and it made me laugh:
Is Kate Gosselin the worst mother ever? Kate Gosselin may not actually be the worst mom of all time, but boy is she trying to convince us she is.
Anonymous said... 50 Mady posted on her private insta . . . _____
Is this a different account from her mady.gosselin IG that was supposedly first set up on the twins' 18th b'day? Or is it the real Mady Gosselin account that we've conjectured she has for at least the last 6-7 years? Just curious, I am not on any social media.
Sad but true- Yes Mady and Cara each have private Instagram accounts that they use to keep in contact with friends. And yes I gather that they’ve had them for quite some time. Cara was a counselor for a summer camp for 2019. I’m happy that she gets involved and didn’t limit herself to spending her time locked up at the Gosselin orphanage. For the next summer break, I can totally see her finding a college program of some kind to keep her busy. And may even spend a very short amount of time visiting that depressing house. I hope Kate leaves them alone. -Gigi Be
Layla...If you mean what we all think....YAY and Congratulations to all. Enjoy!
Mom2two...Thanks for the info. From Jon’s IG it looks like Collin is thriving but it’s nice to hear. I think Hannah and Collin are going to have a lot to say in the future.
Where in the middle of a Nor’easter here on the Cape. Lots of wind and rain. I love walking my dog but in this weather it sucks.
What is she going to do if and when two, or perhaps more of her children start talking or write books? Sue them? Or go talk shows and claim that that's not what actually happens? Set the record straight on her own children?
I can't and don't want to believe she'd sue her own children for "falsifying the realest of reality television shows," so "they would make money," or other such nonsense. I'd hope that due to whatever what went on with Collin that she wouldn't say, "the things he written or saying aren't accurate because he didn't get the proper care he needed back then so it's not accurate or he was put up to it by Jon."
It is going to be sad that these children possibly one day may battle it out I say vs what you say in reality television, "what I remember," interviews or tell all books and or both back and forth business and picking sides with Kate vs Jon to dispute what and so on.
How could a family come to such possibility just because they had multiple children? What was really so wrong with being a middle class large family that lived anonymously in middle of PA? Nothing. Look at what they did to themselves and their children all for a little (or probably a lot) of extra money? I don't think all the money in the world was worth all this and what's possibly to come.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, stop the clock! Things are about to get more interesting. No wonder the FW+4 isn’t talking much. This explains her woe is me letter to the twins with all the bullshit about the trials and tribulations they have all faced.
And in further damning claims the guardian ad litem - the impartial person appointed by the court to act as a representative for the Gosselin children - noted that they feared money had been 'misappropriated' by Kate.
'I know the children have a trust fund that can be used for private schooling. I do not know what is contained within that fund. I do not know how much Mother has to provide the necessities of food, shelter, and clothing. It is troublesome to me that this family has been working in this industry for at least seven (7) years but is dependent upon this contract to survive. What has happened to all the money? The inference with the refusal to provide any financial information is that it has been misappropriated.'
Judge Rowley continued by chastising Kate, 44, for trying to minimize the impact of filming on the children by suggesting the show simply records the ordinary life the family leads.
He pointed out that Kate admitted that the children would never film their real birthday and instead film birthday episodes a month later.
'Having a staged second birthday is hardly the normal activity that would occur absent filming,' he said.
Judge Rowley concluded: 'Taken altogether, the Court was faced with limited information, failures by Mother and her counsel to provide more information, real concerns about the mental and emotional effects of filming, and no way to determine whether those concerns are offset by the financial benefits of filming. The Court, therefore, concluded filming was not in the children's best interests.'
Kate's greed took over and she allowed her children to be filmed (in 2018) against a court order! WOW. She keeps being revealed as a worse human being than even we think... and that is saying something. And it seems their (the kids') funds have been "misappropriated". M.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 270 of 270 Newer› Newest»I just saw a short clip of the show on a Kate Plus 8 fan Instagram page , the one where she was reading her speech from her phone with zero amount of love or compassion in her voice. That was the first thing that struck me, the second thing that struck me was how uncomfortable all the kids looked as she read it.
Sandylove (#3), she really can't pull off the warm-and-fuzzy stuff, can she? The kids' discomfort was a sure sign that they were doubting Mommie Dearest's sincerity. In other words...heifer, please.
Clark (193)
We have speculated here that Kate will end up in a "Grey Gardens" kind of situation. She'll become an impoverished recluse hanging on desperately to a mansion she can't afford to maintain and which is crumbling around her ears. I would not be at all surprised if that became her reality.
I also have enormous respect for Octomom. She and the kids do charity work together, they run 5Ks for charity, and she takes care of all 14 of them herself, including her severely autistic son--and she works. She has truly proven herself to be a strong woman. I don't know if I could do all that she does. In fact, I really doubt that I could.
OT, but--Wegmans shoppers, I just tried the most amazing thing! We had a gathering of friends at a neighbor's house last night, and everyone brought a dish. One lady brought crackers, cheese and Wegmans balsamic cherries. The cherries were just incredible on crackers with bleu cheese or cheddar. Her spread was the only thing completely wiped out. I highly recommend it--all of it, but especially the balsamic cherries. The cheese was also from Wegmans and was really good too. I'm heading out to get some today. I would never have thought of buying balsamic cherries--I love finding really delicious new things.
Mady and Cara's birthday is coming up soon. Will we see pictures of some over-the-top gifts from Mommie Dearest?
I love how she said crab legs were so expensive. I get them when they are on sale she has never bought them unless TLC paid.
The kids really called her out on her bullshit this time. Like “mom hasn’t cooked in a year”. So who cooks Kate?? And she lamented about Hannah not being there but said nothing about Collin. She is pure evil. Those girls were quite clear that they were very excited about being released from the kompound. Leah had no problem pointing out all of tfw’s dramatics. Wonder what Jon, Hannah and Collin thought about her comments? I will definitely read their books that are sure to be coming down the line. When tfw got teary eyed about all of them leaving in the next few years, the only sadness i believe she had was that she won’t be on tv anymore.
Layla said...
she takes care of all 14 of them herself, including her severely autistic son
That autistic son is in a literal locked cage though. In an upstairs bedroom. That's not right.
All of the octuplets sleep in one room, too. I mean, I get that space is limited but that's not healthy. In terms of age. Puberty is going to set in. Kind of like asking for trouble. I'm surprised that it is legal.
- lurker
Thanks for the refresher formally duped. It's all starting to come back to me now.
Wowser, that stupid TLC prick deliberately just asked about Hannah, not Colin. Blame him for the softball question. WTF didn’t he ask about Colin? Why? Why? Because they don’t put their star on the hot seat. Ever. What if they did ask her about Colin as well. Imagine the fallout. I despise her more than ever.
PAPER PLATES FOREVER
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I haven't seen a thing about her locking her son away in a bedroom. Where did you hear that? I've read that her home is very, very small. I'm surprised she'd even have a room to devote to just one child.
T. said... 10
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You're welcome, T! I remember we had a good discussion about CWS and one person also posted the Chore Chart duties as best she could.I alwsy wondered how the house could get so dirty/messy when the kids were at school all say!
Paper Plates (#11), I guess to TLC, that little boy was just a cast member and not a human being.
My mind just flashed to a scene when C was a toddler trying to fit a sippy cup into the trunk of a little car he was driving, and was getting frustrated that it wouldn't work. He was a sweet, helpful, pudgy little thing. And TLC is complicit in trying to gaslight America into thinking he never existed.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 14
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I remember that! He also wanted to fit a doll in there too. Nana Janet was there and she was so patient with him. Those are the same cars I think (Cozy Coupes) that Collin always brought inside and lined up for Mommy as helper boy. He got upset sometimes when things didn't go his way but was a loving helpful sweet little boy and tried so hard to make Mommy love him
I went to the iTunes Store to check on this episode and it’s listed as Season 0 which leads me to believe that it may only be a special and not the start of a new season. It was pretty boring and mediocre. The remaining 4 tups don’t seem to have much charisma. As others have said I find them all referring to TFW as “mother” to be a little odd, especially when they’re talking directly to her. We’ve all been through the “moootheeeer” but that’s the exception rather than the rule. Collin and Hannah are lucky because they look much happier and more relaxed than any that are still with TFW.
Layla said...
I haven't seen a thing about her locking her son away in a bedroom. Where did you hear that?
Didn't hear it. Saw it on an update video. He's not simply locked into a room. He's literally locked into a wooden cage IN A ROOM. Google and you'll find it. It's out there.
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I couldn't find anything about a cage, but I did see in an update that he sleeps in an adult-size crib right next to her bed. It says that his circadian rhythm is off and he tends to get up in the middle of the night. The crib doesn't have a top on it--it's basically just a large crib. Is that what you're talking about?
I have a son (now almost 22) who has autism. He has had sleep issues all of his life (which, by the way, is quite common with autism). He was never a "runner", but many kids that have autism are -- they "run" or wander and it doesn't matter what time of day. Often they leave their homes (even if they are locked) and wander. Some at night while the family sleeps soundly. Many families try alarms, extra door security, etc to no avail.
It is unfair to say that Octomom keeps her son with autism in a cage. We do not know the circumstances for which he is in a big crib-like bed.
As a parent of a child with autism, I find it astounding that people are so quick to judge what we, as parents of a child with this condition have to do to keep our children safe. I had to have a vest-type "leash" on my son when he was toddler age because he would not hold anyone's hand or would break away when we were out in stores. He was super quick to get away -- this "leash" would prevent him from running away or in front of moving cars. I had people yell at me for this (I also had two of his siblings with me). I didn't like that I had to do this for my son, but keeping him safe was my priority -- no matter what the judgmental public thought.
Pooshanellagoober (#19), thank you for sharing about your personal experience with your son. Clearly his safety is always top of mind for you, no matter how others might judge your decisions. Your insight is important in this conversation.
And blessing to you, your son, and your other children as you navigate your challenges.
The people who may never work or live with challenged children or adults rarely have insight into the problems that families or caretakers face. The goal to many of these on the spectrum or challenged in other ways, is paramount and they will strive to achieve that goal without any regard to safety. To try and keep them from harm without harming them is often very hard. An adult size crib or a harness and lead is by far less traumatic than chemical restraint. We have seen sad Kate do that to her child and it was cringe-worthy. I call her sad because she is mentally ill and needs treatment. I see as no different than the homeless person on the street who does not receive treatment and acts out. That she is clean and somewhat articulate is only a small difference.
To all the families that keep their challenged children and adults safe in loving and caring ways, I say, when approached by strangers that want to shame you,"when you walk in my shoes, then you can have an opinion. Until then, shut the hell up."
Just read about the Give a Little TLC awards for those who promote kindness and are against all bullying. Whitney Thore won one of these awards. I sure hope TLC didn't even think about giving one to TFW. (And Whitney Thore appears to be filming for her show in France!)
M.
Pooshanellagoober said... 19
It is unfair to say that Octomom keeps her son with autism in a cage. We do not know the circumstances for which he is in a big crib-like bed.
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I absolutely agree with you, which is why I was asking for clarification. I don't consider and adult crib to be a cage at all, and Octo's son is certainly not placed in a room by himself. She has the crib next to her bed so that if he wakes up in the middle of the night, she will know and be able to make sure he is safe. We were discussing here the respect we all have for her and all she does for her kids, including caring for her autistic child herself. I just couldn't fathom her locking him away somewhere. I have seen articles with pictures of her kids, and one of her octuplets is very close to Aidan and very protective of him, which I think that is wonderful. Kids that age mirror what they see the adults around them doing, and it's obvious that her kids are mirroring compassion and acceptance for their brother. I also saw that she and the kids run charity 5Ks together. They have it rough financially, but are learning young to do for others. She is doing a great job.
Years ago, through some professional connections, I knew a woman who had an adult son who was severely autistic. She devoted her life to him and even went on to found a school for kids with autism, and then a nonprofit organization that established and ran small group homes for adults with severe autism. In her case, her son still lived with her and her husband. He was so volatile that she actually had a "cage"/screen installed in her car between the front seat and back seat like in a police vehicle. That was necessary because he would suddenly lash out and grab her or her husband while they were driving. They also had to keep the safety locks on the back doors and windows so he couldn't open them.
Last night, I saw something about Kate being worried that Jon is going to say something bad about her. I didn't save the link-did anyone else see it?
https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/videos/kate-gosselin-pretends-to-miss-hannah-on-kate-plus-8/
This article says pretty much what all of the tabs have been saying for the past however many days. But:
"Kate seems to be laying low in her fight with Jon," an insider observes.
The source continues: "Which isn’t like her at all."
"Friends say Kate just doesn’t want to open up any old wounds," the insider says.
The source then reveals: "but some say she’s afraid that Jon, now that his gag order has been lifted, might be up to something."
“She’s afraid that Jon might get another show," the insider suggests.
The source notes that this is something "which he’s been pushing for."
That could be a great source of income for him, his girlfriend, and his two teens. And we know that the interest exists.
The insider explains that Kate fears this "and that Hannah, and Collin, might start talking."
"About what?" the source adds. "Kate says she doesn’t know, but of course she does."
"But I know Kate,," the insider adds. "And she won’t stand idly by and let Jon tell his side of the story"
Given the level of justified contempt that this insider feels, this doesn't sound like a family friend. Could this source be a Kate Plus 8 producer?
The source says that Kate won't let Jon talk about her forever "without putting her two cents in.”
So if he keeps talking or does chat about her on this hypothetical show, Kate is sure to hit back.
“The Jon and Kate saga is far from over," the insider characterizes."
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So, do we buy that a producer on K8+Whatever might actually be speaking out? Despite all the repetition from other tab articles, I think the implication here that this is a producer is new to this one. Personally, I think K8 is less concerned about what Collin or Jon might reveal than about Hannah. Hannah is the only (currently untethered) one who knows the truth of what went down with her brother. And if she talks, I think people are much more likely to believe her over K8. So yeah, I believe K8 is looking over her shoulder all the livelong day.
On another note, how is K8 managing to hold back her usual overwrought missive of LUV for her 19-y/o twins' b'day? Nothing on IG or elsewhere. Is she actually planning to communicate with them privately for a change? What a novel idea.
Pam said... 25
Haha, your comment just popped up for me and I just posted a link. :)
Sad but true you are absolutely right. I don't think Hannah left her entire life behind for the typical teenage reasons Kate would like the world to believe. The incident at the orthodontist led Kate to imply the most horrendous lie she could make against the father of her children. That implied accusation was disgusting and unforgivable on her part. She honestly never deserves forgiveness for putting her daughter through that. I'm sure there was some sort of investigation and questioning they put that child through. I can't imagine how distraught she must have been. Hannah also knows what happen to Collin. Again, Kate implied he was some sort of "danger" to the other kids. If that were the case, wouldn't Kate have fought to the end to get Hannah back? Not a peep. No showing up in court for either one of these children. Who is stupid enough to believe that if anything Kate said was remotely true, that Hannah would be allowed to stay there by the court? She wouldn't. Kate's day of reckoning is coming and it will probably come at the hands of her favorite child. I can't think of anyone who deserves that fate more than Kate.
Here’s hoping that the twins have a happy and low key birthday like every other anonymous college student. Pizza and dessert with friends works well.
I doubt and hope Jon does not want a show!!
Yes, Kate should be very afraid...then again, I thought her own journals would at least cause concern and do her in....
Last Tuesday's "special" episode was clearly filler. I just checked my program guide and TLC is airing another two hour episode of Outdaughtered at 8 pm tonight. That's followed at 10 pm by a repeat of last week's two hour premiere (that aired prior to TFW's special last week).
Next Tuesday, Outdaughtered's third episode of the season is only an hour. That's followed at 9 pm with the season premiere of Counting On. Then at 10 pm, they're re-airing tonight's two hour episode of Outdaughtered (episode 2).
It looks like TLC slapped together that "special" episode with segments from last year's NC college tour and "vacation" and the recent send off to college and then just threw it on the air as filler while waiting for the season premiere of Counting On.
Also, I checked last week and again today, and I noticed that TLC has not repeated the special episode at all. It only aired last week and then re-aired once a few hours later (2 am, I think).
Not only with this special episode, but with most of her episodes, I've always wondered why they don't repeat the episodes much, if at all. Scrolling through the program guide last week and today, I see tons of old episodes of other TLC shows airing over and over again. Not even recent episodes, but episodes from 2011(!), 2012, 2014, 2015. I think some of those shows aren't even producing new episodes anymore. It's just curious that they don't air old episodes of FW+4. Does anyone have any guesses why not?
I saw that.
Great minds.....
so=Milo missed the dating show and the girls going to college. Where is she? Dead? no longer a fan? A mental institute? Maybe Lites off man told her to stop it?
I kind of miss the humor
Speculation
Kate tried to keep Hannah from Jon by saying their relationship was inappropriate. She was successful at the ER after she hurt Hannah. She was not successful after she lost the last round of appeals in the custody case.
I would not put it above Kate to tell the other kids that Jon was trying to have an inappropriate relationship with them.The kids might believe her because they don't know what a healthy relationship looks like with either parent. They may also bend to her saying it's inappropriate because it makes them less of a target for abuse.
Andrea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOjZAX41BMg
go to thirteen min 55 sec.
Took me all of a second or two to find it.
Looks like a cage to me. It's locked and he's in it for the majority of the day {and all night} except for his three meals/day.
But if calling it an "adult crib" eases the inhumanity of it, knock yourself out. We'll have to agree to completely disagree over the morality of it.
This isn't the first time I've seen parents do this. I'm well aware of the practise. That's no way to raise a child. Nadya wanting "just one more" {exactly like Kate} when she already had too many children - and one she knew had very special needs - was extremely selfish.
Anyone going to address the fact that eight children going through puberty sleep in one room?
Giff said... 28
. . . If that were the case, wouldn't Kate have fought to the end to get Hannah back? Not a peep. No showing up in court for either one of these children.
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Not true. She appealed the ruling over Hannah, but she was denied. I think ROL posted about it back in July 2018. And I think it was shortly after the initial ruling allowing Hannah to move to Jon's (early 2018) that she filed her overdue child support case against Jon. I guess she thought she could force him to change his mind. She's the queen of browbeaters. Or should it be ballbusters?
lurker said... 35
Anyone going to address the fact that eight children going through puberty sleep in one room?
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Umm, All of my siblings & I shared a bedroom. I don't believe it ever occurred to any of us that it was anything but normal. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Umm, All of my siblings & I shared a bedroom. I don't believe it ever occurred to any of us that it was anything but normal. Get your mind out of the gutter.
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Federal regulations require that foster children not share the same bedroom as opposite sex children, whether it be other foster children or children of their foster parents. I guess their minds are in the gutter.
I wonder when the tides turned between Hannah and Mother. I remember them seeming close but of course that was TV. She said she didn't want to change rooms because she wouldn't be as close to TFW...maybe just growing up and the extent of the abuse Collin endured made her rethink her situation. Maybe she even tried to convince L to join her
Mady posted a “19th trip around the 🌞” selfie. Maybe the twins told Kate that they didn’t want her posting anything ridiculous. The FW+4 did leave a comment though: “Happy birthday (again) to my precious GORGEOUS baby girl. It’s been a fun day, and even though we spent it apart, I feel like I was there with you (thanks to our friend ft)! More celebrating to come! Can’t wait! I love you!😘 😘🥰🥰”. I guess she just had to let everyone know that she face-timed with Mady. Also, there were over 17K likes so I guess maybe the FW+4 gave her some “like bots” for her birthday.
Please tell me that I am not the only one who does not notice that it's really weird when Kate says it's not optimal for mom, essentially that her children are getting older to make their own choices? Which is basically what she said.
Kate--it's normal when your children get older that they make their own choices that you flat just don't agree with. It's the process that gets them to being adults in case you missed that? Your children are not supposed to mini-you's. They are not robots. They are not suppose to have YOUR opinions or desires in life. They are suppose to when they become teenagers make their own choices--on wardrobe to a point I mean let's not get crazy here, to a point on what they like, say, do, they form their own minds on just about ever cotton picking thing here.
That's how they learn to become forward thinking INDIVIDUALS. To function on their own without you over your shoulder telling you how to do everything in life so one day when you're no longer around they aren't helpless. Did you miss that lesson in life dear? Not everything they do is optimal but that's the whole point. That's what raising children is about basically. Because if they were meant to be basically like you that would be pretty weird...they're meant to spread their wings and fly.
Optimal for her just sounds like, "It wasn't what I wanted her to do because it makes me look bad for TV and now I can't spin things anymore."
BlueJay said... 41
Please tell me that I am not the only one who does not notice that it's really weird when Kate says it's not optimal for mom, essentially that her children are getting older to make their own choices?
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But but but they weren't supposed to be able to DO that until they left for college (or she got rid of 'em)! Dontcha know, she owns their asses until they're 18. They were supposed to be filming the show at least until then.
I LOL'ed at her comment, when talking of Hannah choosing to live with Jon, "And I support that." You WHAT? You were in court over this for probably the better part of a year, and you had to be SHUT DOWN by a judge before you'd "support" it. If that's your idea of support, I can't imagine what dealing with you on something you don't support would entail. Probably pistols and seconds at dawn.
I wonder how many times a day Kate texts Cara and Mady, calling them, begging to do FaceTime, and probably driving them crazy even from afar.
lurker (35)
That thing looks huge, and there were 3 kids playing in there. The door was open at all times so they could all walk in and out at will. But if it makes you feel better to claim it's a cage for one child, then knock yourself out. This is a child who has a circadian rhythm disorder, who will get up in the middle of the night and roam around the house and possibly get hurt. She is doing whatever she can to make sure he is safe.
As far as 8 kids going through puberty is concerned, the octuplets are 10. I doubt that they are going through puberty yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOjZAX41BMg
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When you watch Octo's kids, it's amazing to see the difference between her kids and Kate's kids. Remember when Kate swore she couldn't take her kids to the store because it would be too chaotic? Octo and her 8 youngest go grocery shopping and they all pitch in and help. No chaos, no misbehavior, no running around. The kids all seem so articulate and intelligent and respectful, and they rave about what a good mother she is. She's doing something right!
The Outdaughtered FB page has more negative comments than the TLC FB page.
The tide over at the Outdaughtered FB page is changing on Danielle. Lots of comparisons towards Kate now that’s Danielle wants to keep their larger rental with the big yard and swimming pool. She’s spouting how much the girls love the new house and don’t want to move back into the old house (the girls are 4!). And they need the room and privacy (but lets video their every move). Her and Adam are butting heads over it. Good job TLC for creating another “momster”!
kris said... 47
The tide over at the Outdaughtered FB page is changing on Danielle. Lots of comparisons towards Kate now that’s Danielle wants to keep their larger rental with the big yard and swimming pool.
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OMG I was watching it and had the same thoughts. Maybe because I'm wise to TLC ways but I thought, she is really something wanting this house instead of their old one. I felt bad for her hubby who seems to get blindsided by her whims.
kris said... 46
I just took a look at the comments. It sure looks like the Busbys are headed down the Gosselin highway, and a lot of people are drawing the comparisons. Does this sound familiar?
XXXXX I also was disappointed in last night's episode. Yes, they have money now. But Danielle always wanting more. Complaining when Adam has to go to Dallas for work. She wanted him home to help, so he quit his job. In the beginning, she begged for the house that's being renovated even tho it was over their budget. And complains that he has to work. If they have the money that is estimated they do, why doesn't she get some help? And now, just willy nilly, let's start a business. How long will it be before the kitchen in the new house is too small? Dale mentioned it last night...tight squeeze.
Mady posted on her private insta “Love you so much! Can’t wait to see you in two weeks. Happy birthday Twinnie!” along with a picture of Cara and herself. So I wonder if Mady is making the trip to NYC to see Cara or if this is the birthday celebration that Kate was implying and “mother” will also come along. But hopefully no filming is involved and it’s just a nice sister sister visit.
-Gigi Be
kris (#47), yeah, "privacy" is remarkably easy to have when you raise your children without freakin' cameras in their faces. Reminds me of when TFW lamented losing 423 or so trees during #SuperFunSandy because they'd given the house "privacy." Funny, heifer wasn't thinking much about privacy when she had TLC install permanent TV lights in that same house.
About the Busbys, I also read that the family got a dog on last week's episode, and one of the little girls was filmed saying that Mommy "spanks" the dog. Sounds like she's TFW 2.0. Get yer popcorn.
I got some info on Collin from a local. He is doing well, is very polite and sweet, thinks of Colleen as a mom, and thinks not so nice things about his egg donor. Most importantly he gets to see his grandparents. (I was not told which ones)
Didn't someone say they had already bought the new house? They looked it up on some public database... remember this show is filmed way before and they probably don't want to say they bought the house because it would spoil the surprise on the show episode where they debate whether they can afford it, wring hands about the money (that probably is coming from TLC in part as rental of a studio space)...
Then there will be the episode where they sign the papers and have champagne with the realtor mom who made it all happen, so they will all have to thank Mimi.
I agree that Danielle is getting pretty needy and wanty. She said she supported hubby when he wanted to change jobs to Dallas - NOT TRUE! OMG, she whined for several shows about it. And now she wants to start a business.... just a business, she doesn't know what. I don't blame Adam for his position....
UGG. They are better than kart but it's a slippery slope they are going down.
And PS, WHY in the world did they get a dog, and a snappy dog no less. One of those girls will get nipped and then the episode will be about getting rid of the dog. Sigh...…...
One other comparison.... Danielle is certainly not as screechy as kart and I don't think I've seen her lose her temper like kart.
Has Danielle ever SCREAMED at the kids or yanked their arms on the show? kart never thought anything of abusing her kids for all the world to see - the happy up spoon and the laundry room floor...…. gawd she is awful...… her day will come. Hannah will tell her story. And probably get paid a lot for a book.
Danielle Busby is far more likeable than Kate, but she seems to be just like her in that she uses her kids as commodities. The Busbys film their show, and they also have a YouTube channel. The girls have cameras in their faces pretty much non-stop.
I saw this online post and it made me laugh:
Is Kate Gosselin the worst mother ever?
Kate Gosselin may not actually be the worst mom of all time, but boy is she trying to convince us she is.
Anonymous said... 50
Mady posted on her private insta . . .
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Is this a different account from her mady.gosselin IG that was supposedly first set up on the twins' 18th b'day? Or is it the real Mady Gosselin account that we've conjectured she has for at least the last 6-7 years? Just curious, I am not on any social media.
Sad but true-
Yes Mady and Cara each have private Instagram accounts that they use to keep in contact with friends. And yes I gather that they’ve had them for quite some time.
Cara was a counselor for a summer camp for 2019. I’m happy that she gets involved and didn’t limit herself to spending her time locked up at the Gosselin orphanage. For the next summer break, I can totally see her finding a college program of some kind to keep her busy. And may even spend a very short amount of time visiting that depressing house. I hope Kate leaves them alone.
-Gigi Be
Today...is a beautiful day! :)
Layla said... 59
Congratulations!?
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Gigi Be, thanks for explaining. I always knew K8's insistence that her kids were NOT on social media was a lie.
Layla (#59), is Sully here?!
From Dmasy --
Layla -- do you mean what we think you might mean??
Happiness!
Layla, let us know!!!!!!
YES!!!! More details later!!
—Nana Layla
Layla...If you mean what we all think....YAY and Congratulations to all. Enjoy!
Mom2two...Thanks for the info. From Jon’s IG it looks like Collin is thriving but it’s nice to hear. I think Hannah and Collin are going to have a lot to say in the future.
Where in the middle of a Nor’easter here on the Cape. Lots of wind and rain. I love walking my dog but in this weather it sucks.
capecodmama
What is she going to do if and when two, or perhaps more of her children start talking or write books? Sue them? Or go talk shows and claim that that's not what actually happens? Set the record straight on her own children?
I can't and don't want to believe she'd sue her own children for "falsifying the realest of reality television shows," so "they would make money," or other such nonsense. I'd hope that due to whatever what went on with Collin that she wouldn't say, "the things he written or saying aren't accurate because he didn't get the proper care he needed back then so it's not accurate or he was put up to it by Jon."
It is going to be sad that these children possibly one day may battle it out I say vs what you say in reality television, "what I remember," interviews or tell all books and or both back and forth business and picking sides with Kate vs Jon to dispute what and so on.
How could a family come to such possibility just because they had multiple children? What was really so wrong with being a middle class large family that lived anonymously in middle of PA? Nothing. Look at what they did to themselves and their children all for a little (or probably a lot) of extra money? I don't think all the money in the world was worth all this and what's possibly to come.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7555649/Jon-Gosselin-rips-greedy-Kate-TLC-defying-court-ban-filming-children.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7555649/Jon-Gosselin-rips-greedy-Kate-TLC-defying-court-ban-filming-children.html
Whoa, whoa, whoa, stop the clock! Things are about to get more interesting. No wonder the FW+4 isn’t talking much. This explains her woe is me letter to the twins with all the bullshit about the trials and tribulations they have all faced.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7555649/Jon-Gosselin-rips-greedy-Kate-TLC-defying-court-ban-filming-children.html
Part of the article...
And in further damning claims the guardian ad litem - the impartial person appointed by the court to act as a representative for the Gosselin children - noted that they feared money had been 'misappropriated' by Kate.
'I know the children have a trust fund that can be used for private schooling. I do not know what is contained within that fund. I do not know how much Mother has to provide the necessities of food, shelter, and clothing. It is troublesome to me that this family has been working in this industry for at least seven (7) years but is dependent upon this contract to survive. What has happened to all the money? The inference with the refusal to provide any financial information is that it has been misappropriated.'
Judge Rowley continued by chastising Kate, 44, for trying to minimize the impact of filming on the children by suggesting the show simply records the ordinary life the family leads.
He pointed out that Kate admitted that the children would never film their real birthday and instead film birthday episodes a month later.
'Having a staged second birthday is hardly the normal activity that would occur absent filming,' he said.
Judge Rowley concluded: 'Taken altogether, the Court was faced with limited information, failures by Mother and her counsel to provide more information, real concerns about the mental and emotional effects of filming, and no way to determine whether those concerns are offset by the financial benefits of filming. The Court, therefore, concluded filming was not in the children's best interests.'
New post about the earthshattering news.
Kate's greed took over and she allowed her children to be filmed (in 2018) against a court order! WOW. She keeps being revealed as a worse human being than even we think... and that is saying something. And it seems their (the kids') funds have been "misappropriated".
M.
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