What could happen if she doesn't pay up or follow the orders in the future? Additional fines are on the table. A judge also has authority to put her in jail.
A big thank you to Daily Mail for discovering this story earlier this year and pursuing it to its conclusion.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7805741/Kate-Gosselin-contempt-filming-underage-kids-WITHOUT-work-permits.html
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 775 Newer› Newest»Can someone tell me why Kate has to cough up 25,000 to Jon? That’s a big chunk of money...I personally don’t see it happening ... especially handing it over to Jon??? We all know how Kate feels about money. Also what’s the consequence if she doesn’t... this should be interesting
JR (#1), if anyone had taken the bait when TFW fumed about Jon's Dr. Oz appearance and was dying to set the record straight, she could've made a bit of cash. But no one cared to hear her side. They say the opposite of love is not hate but indifference. Welcome to the age of of indifference, Schmoopy. It might make mediocrity actually look like a step up.
JR said... 1
It's attorney fees. Though for which case(s) and for what reason(s), we do not know.
Attorney fees? Oh the irony.... this is surreal
Well, I guess now we know why he's going to law school:
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@mimi75837 we were pressured to think that we were required to and that we would get sued if we didn’t. It’s not going to look good for TLC when it’s exposed that they pressured an abuse victim to continue filming when we tried to quit, just so they could continue with Jill & Jessa: Counting On after 19K&C.
Talk about biting the hand . . . JimBlob must be LIVID. (This, and much more, is on Derick's last IG photo.)
I am sure Derick Dillard is writing a tell all on that holier than thou family. And to think he was the first "chosen" one to have one of the Duggar daughters. This is how he will make the money he was supposed to get. Maybe that is why they were the begging missionaries all those years. Imagine being shunned by Jim Boob? The Duggar's claim part of their home is a church..less taxes. Karma usually comes to visit people like these swindlers. I would read that book.
foxy said... 6
I really think he's mistaken if he thinks he's gonna be able to take it to TLC. The Boob is the one to go after. Of course, to the extent that Jill and Derick signed anything to commit themselves to performing in this circus, that's on them. But if they think TLC's going to cough up any cash in their direction, I think they're way off the mark. The Gosselin kids have a better chance at getting something from TLC than the Dillards do.
I wouldn't be surprised if TLC pulls Boob aside and tells him that the show will not go on if he can't keep his 50-page-questionnaired son-in-law in line.
foxy said... 6
I really think he's mistaken if he thinks he's gonna be able to take it to TLC. The Boob is the one to go after.
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He better have a lot more ducks in a row if he wants to take on tlc. An entity is allowed to urge someone to sign a contract if they want to as long as they don’t violate any contract laws like undue influence. But anyone who is a pain in tlc’s ass is a spectacle I want to watch.
I don't think Derick will go after TLC. I think he will go after the Boob to get his true share of the money. I am glad the younger 9 or 10 kids aren't on display like the older ones. I also think the younger ones will break away from the family especially Johannah, I think that is her name. She seems like a very unhappy child. I don't think Michelle is a mother to any of those kids. It falls on Jana now where Jill and Jessa were also the mothers in that house. Sad indeed.
I've said it before...if TLC came knocking with a contract for the Dillard family for a show of their own, I suspect all of Derick's sanctimonious blathering would stop in a heartbeat as he signed on the bottom line. I don't think any of these nitwits have the courage of their convictions. It's easy to sit behind your screen and throw stones.
Do any of the Duggars kids have real jobs other than mowing Jim Boob's lawn? Jana is the indentured Cinderella and it doesn't seem as though she gets any help with the children and household chores. The boys seem to not be at all helpful and need to be waited on hand and foot.
Jana has already raised enough children for five lifetimes. I seriously doubt that she wants to raise anymore. But does that mean she is tethered to that house forever? Is she not allowed to have at least her own apartment? They have sucked her life dry!
And those kids starting & running the lawnmower while barefoot just scares the wits out of me! Don't the cameramen or producers have to at least make sure they are safe & not portraying dangerous actions? They should at least run a banner along the bottom telling kids to always wear shoes while starting & running a mower.
I've really only seen that show a few times because of things like that.
As much as I disagree with Derick Dillard, I do feel bad for Jill and all the grown Duggar girls. Without them playing the role of mothers to their younger siblings, there is no way JB could have grifted through life as he has done. They were abused physically, spiritually and emotionally all while being the ones doing the most work, and really the only reason people watched the show. They are more entitled to a paycheck than JimBob has ever been. All those girls deserve compensation for their work and suffering. I wish the Duggar parents the same fate as I wish Kate Gosselin...public humiliation like they put their children through, the children getting the money THEY earned, and financial ruin for putting greed ahead of their own children's' welfare.
JR said... 1
Can someone tell me why Kate has to cough up 25,000 to Jon?
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Apparently she appealed a previous court ruling and lost, and she has to pay Jon's legal fees ($25,000). I really wish we knew what it was that she appealed. There must have been a lot of back-and-forth if Jon had that much in legal fees. I'm hoping she lost her bogus lawsuit seeking more than $100,000 (I can't remember the exact amount) in what she claimed was back child support. She apparently had nothing to back up that claim and she definitely would have appealed if she lost. It makes me happy to think that she's no longer calling the shots, and she can't bleed Jon dry in court anymore. The gag order is up and she can't control the narrative. That may be the reason why she hasn't gone on any shows to "set the record straight". Everyone knows what she's done to Collin, everyone knows she filmed the kids illegally and that the courts said filming is against the kids' best interests. Nobody is going to give her a softball interview and let her dictate what questions are going to be asked, and nobody is going to let her get away with lying to cover her a$$. She won't agree to a no-holds-barred interview so there has been no interview. I bet she's just beside herself with frustration. Good.
Layla (#15), Schmoopy's days of "no never means no" and "I'm in charge, and that's never gonna change" are long behind her. And the bill on that narcissistic behavior has finally become due.
If you think the British media isn't just downright vicious to Harry and Meghan, check this out. Harry and Meghan posted a nice Christmas card with baby Archie front and center, with Harry and Meghan sitting behind him each equally slightly out of focus. Later on someone, who knows who, took that photo and photoshopped Meghan's face so that it was sharply in focus and Harry's was still blurry. Therefore Meghan and Archie were in focus, Harry was blurry. The Daily Mail then proceeded to do an entire article about Meghan's face being weirdly in focus. Well, the original photo was still everywhere. It was tweeted by the photographer, and on official social media accounts for the royal family. Even when it was pointed out to the Daily Mail they have the wrong photo and should look at the original photo which has been widely posted, they still have their nasty article up with the photoshopped version. It's one thing to make a mistake and talk about the wrong photo, quite another to stick to your story even when it's been explained there's been a big mix up. The American and Canadian press meanwhile were very respectful and complimentary of the photo, so when Meghan says whoa this British press is a whole other level, in situations like this one I kind of give her the benefit of the doubt.
Sorry but can’t imagine her paying Jon’s legal fees... it seems impossible for her...I guess she’s taking Jon’s “ramblings” serious now huh?
JR said... 18
Sorry but can’t imagine her paying Jon’s legal fees... it seems impossible for her...I guess she’s taking Jon’s “ramblings” serious now huh?
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No way, she will never take Jon seriously. She's fuming right now, and I say that with complete confidence because that $25,000 is due tomorrow:) Her hatred of him is all-consuming and she has proven that she will lie, defy court orders, and file false police reports to try to get the upper hand. She's accustomed to bullying him at will, with TLC and the courts acting as her enablers, but now she's on her own and she's no longer winning. It looks like she's destroying herself in her all-encompassing hatred, and nobody but a couple of comically ignorant IG followers are on her side now.
I wonder if Leah has considered living with Jon. She's never been one of Kate's favorites, and she never seemed to be particularly close to any of her siblings except Hannah. She said in the lost episode that Alexis doesn't even talk to her. Alexis seems to be close to Aaden, and Aaden and Joel seem close. And then there's Leah. She would be much happier with her buddy Hannah, and she'd be part of a functioning and loving family unit. All she's learning by living at Kate's house is that filming is the most important thing in life and revenge must be had at all costs.
And for those "fans" on Kate's IG who claim to be so worried about the kids reading nasty comments:
SHE can shut it down at any time. SHE can block individual commenters. SHE can delete anything offensive. Yet not only does she not, SHE continues to buy +/-150 followers PER DAY.
So yeah, I don't think she really gives a damn what her kids see or don't see. After all, they've pretty much seen it ALL, there is nothing that's new to them to be learned from her IG. Except maybe how much she LIES to create her own, fictitious agenda. That, they may notice.
Admin, the British tabloids are brutal when it comes to Meghan aren't they? She just can not do a thing right as far as they're concerned.
The rest of the Royal family can take private planes, go overseas for holidays, or god forbid smile for the camera & not a criticism - but not her. She's worse than Andrew according to them.
Good thing she's an actress & I assume able to handle the fallout she's encountered.
The rest of the Royal family can take private planes, go overseas for holidays, or god forbid smile for the camera & not a criticism - but not her. She's worse than Andrew according to them.
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It’s getting to the point where they’re just flat out making things up. I guess the other thing the press is freaking out over is their bid to trademark Sussex Royal. Questions abound about why they would do this and they want to do merchandise. Well, turns out all the main royal families have trademarked their names including William. It’s just a legally wise thing to do and has nothing to do with cashing in. So it’s yet again a totally bizarre and hypocritical attack for no good reason.
And for those "fans" on Kate's IG who claim to be so worried about the kids reading nasty comments:
SHE can shut it down at any time. SHE can block individual commenters. SHE can delete anything offensive. Yet not only does she not, SHE continues to buy +/-150 followers PER DAY.
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That's right. And I'm not sure I even see the point of Kate being on social media at this point. She rarely posts and when she does it's nothing interesting or that's going to get her a job. She isn't promoting anything to make a dime off any of this. So shut it down.
Sad but true said... 20
And for those "fans" on Kate's IG who claim to be so worried about the kids reading nasty comments:
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And some of those Kate fans think it is just horrible that Jon pays attention to his social media and deletes comments that aren't good so the kids hopefully wouldn't see them. They are so stupid.
Didn't someone comment a while ago that Kate didn't promote her last show ahead of time or much? And maybe TLC didn't either? I can't remember for sure but I wonder if they agreed to do it without much promotion try to slip it by quick because she and TLC knew they didn't have the permits and were being sneaky?
She’ll never shut it down... and give the haters satisfaction? Forget it
Ingrid said... 25
Kate didn't really promote it, and I think that's because she knew she was in the wrong. She only posted about it on IG the night of. But TLC actually put up four or so FB posts, starting several days before it aired. And I am a little surprised that they haven't pulled the show clips off of FB, since a couple of them include the 4 tups.
So Mady put up a HNY post on IG. It's a glamour shot from summer (bare shoulder and ponytail).
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2019: you were a bittersweet, stressful, challenging, crazy year. but you were also refreshing, wonderful, unpredictable & full of achievements i’m so proud of. it’s all about balance, i guess :) happy new year!! here’s to 2020 being cooler & crazier 🥂
No comment from Mommy---yet.
Happy New Year to all!
Sad but true (#28), that was a refreshingly cogent comment from Mady. I think being away from her mom is serving her well.
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2019: you were a bittersweet, stressful, challenging, crazy year. but you were also refreshing, wonderful, unpredictable & full of achievements i’m so proud of. it’s all about balance, i guess :) happy new year!! here’s to 2020 being cooler & crazier 🥂
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Nice to see Mady showing a little vulnerability here. Although I've never been a fan of the hint hint hem haw something went wrong this year but then never explaining. Gets annoying. In that respect she's much like her mother. Let's hope the bittersweet thing wasn't her taking on her mother's stresses about the big fat bill she owes Jon and the courts. Mady shouldn't even know this is occurring.
Sorry but can’t imagine her paying Jon’s legal fees... it seems impossible for her...I guess she’s taking Jon’s “ramblings” serious now huh?
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She needs to ramble her precious little self over to the bank and get that check cut. That would be a great start to This is 20/20, the judge imposes jail time this time for her ongoing contempt.
Everyone is forgetting that Kate is a "rule follower".
MamaC (#32), and a "contract honorer!"
I guess we’ll know if Kate is seen in an orange jumpsuit ....😂😂😂😂actually dying of curiosity right now. I don’t think she could stomach actually going to the bank... I’m sure her accountant did it....her fingers are in her ears right now ... la la la la... I’m still in charge la la la
"Aunt Rissa" (K8's sister) commented on Mady's photo:
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Hope your 2020 is the best one yet! Love you, Aunt Rissa 💕
Never have seen her comment on either Mady's or Kate's IG before, I wonder what brought this on. And I wonder if they actually have spent time together. Rissa's IG is private, but if you look at her profile pic, I think it's probably a close rendition of what Kate's real face would look like at this point. The plastic makeover was really all-encompassing, wasn't it?
Isn't Aunt Rissa's name Clarissa and she was trying to hustle a lot of money to adopt a child overseas? She and Kate are just alike. She was trying to hustle I believe $25,000.
foxy said... 36
It's actually Clairissa, LOL. And yes, she's the one. No idea if she ever got the money, or the child.
I wonder if Mady reached out (or vice versa) to her aunt. Now that she’s an adult and living a more independent life, she’s probably curious about her family ties. It’s common when one tries to find him/herself. I wonder if Kate is aware of this. And mother didn’t bother to leave a comment this time.
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Funny, looks like Hailey Glassman commented on Kate’s “study hard” comment on Mady’s post with:
@kateplusmy8- haha totally an uncool comment to leave! Be the #CoolMom
Hailey has had a ton of plastic surgery on her face!
-Gigi Be
Dec. 31st has come and gone. I think Kate probably made that $25k payment to Jon because she knows the court isn't giving her preferential treatment anymore. It must have just killed her to hand over money to him.
2020 has begun, and I hope it will be a completely Kate-and-kids-free year. No shows, no People Magazine spreads, nothing. I always said I didn't care if Kate did something on her own (like the dating show) as long as the kids weren't involved. I've changed my mind. Her single-minded obsession with filming led to the kids having to work against their best interests, so I don't think anyone should feed her obsession. Filming anything--even another season of that dating show without the kids--is just going to make her want to film more, and lead to her forcing the kids to be involved whether they want to or not. That is unacceptable. I hope it is over for her. Of course, her two or three remaining fans would claim that I want to the kids to lose everything. That will never happen. Kate has made millions off the kids' backs. She has plenty. They won't lose anything. Plus, now the courts are monitoring the kids' trust funds so she can't raid them at will. The greatest threat to the kids' financial well-being is Kate herself. She has had free rein to do as she pleases with their money--without any oversight--for a decade. It's about time the courts decided to put a stop to that.
Boyson said... 40
For many of us who've followed this woman's act for years, not much of what Jon revealed on Dr. Oz was a surprise. I don't know if you've read Robert Hoffman's book (Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World), published back in 2013, but a lot of this info was in there.
And although we all speculated about Collin's being sent to a "special needs" school, most of us believed that she was sending him away because he wasn't towing the party line. I don't know if it was filming that was truly his issue, but it was clear that she treated him differently than the other kids, and in the last half-dozen episodes he appeared on, he was clearly drugged. In fact, drugs had been mentioned several years prior to that by one of the teenagers she routinely hired to look after the tups. But I don't think any of us were prepared for the news that he'd actually been committed to a mental institution and was not being let out for visits home or holidays. She made it clear, shortly after she announced his departure on the cover of People magazine, that no one (and that included Jon) knew where Collin was except for her. And of course, what a huge red flag that was. What possible excuse could she have for not telling his father (who at that point hadn't seen him for nearly two years) and at least provide this child with a chance at an alternative solution to his "problems"?
The depth of her selfishness is a truly bottomless pit. I think most of us believe that she has kept the rest of the kids from their dad and poisoned their minds because of her own desire to keep living the high life by filming as much as she possibly could. Hopefully, with the exposure of her treatment of her son, ALL of that is behind her now.
I have NO doubt that she's spent all of her time (when she wasn't in court) since the airing of the college episode trying to come up with some understandable explanation for why she did what she did to Collin. And I imagine at some point, she will pull out some "expert" who will claim that the boy was a danger to himself and/or others. But she is simply not believable anymore. Those days are over.
Sad but true said...
I have NO doubt that she's spent all of her time (when she wasn't in court) since the airing of the college episode trying to come up with some understandable explanation for why she did what she did to Collin.
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I agree with you completely. She's trying to figure out a way to sugar-coat the situation with Collin, but there's nothing she can say that will ever excuse what she did to him. And I believe she doesn't regret it one bit. Her only regret is that there is backlash which could interrupt filming. We can only hope that the truth about what she did to Collin, coupled with her filming the kids against a court order, finally puts a stop to her attempts to further exploit the kids. As for her excuses--we don't want to hear them.
I saw some comments on the Daily Mail article about the latest court hearing, blasting Jon for bringing Collin to court. As always, Kate's fans pushing some kind of blame on Jon without knowing the reason for what he does. I wonder if Collin gave some kind of statement to the court, since he is the child who was the most affected by filming. Maybe he had to talk to the judge or the GAL. Or maybe he wanted to go and Jon realized that it would be empowering for Collin to face up to his mother and show her she didn't destroy him. Either way, I'm sure Jon had a very good reason for Collin being there.
I wonder if Collin was in court to possibly have Kate's parental rights terminated. She did not contact him and she did mot participate in any "treatment." She doesn't deserve to call herself his mother legally or morally.
Get dating show was abysmal at best. I highly doubt anyone would be interested in watching a repeat. She’s going to be single the rest of her life. How she treats men has been aired for all to see for years with Jon. No one will want to be married to a narcissistic ball busting shrew. Even if she comes off as charming in person, the filming shows her true nature. The kids are deflecting and are realizing they have a voice and an “escape” if they choose, with Jon. I have a feeling more will deflect and mire “true stories” will be revealed. Her days on air are in the rear view mirror
HER dating show...stupid autocorrect
Funny, looks like Hailey Glassman commented on Kate’s “study hard” comment on Mady’s post with:
@kateplusmy8- haha totally an uncool comment to leave! Be the #CoolMom
Hailey has had a ton of plastic surgery on her face!
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Well isn’t her father a plastic surgeon??
That is the most random person to comment on the Gosselin’s social media. Odd.
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Funny, looks like Hailey Glassman commented on Kate’s “study hard” comment on Mady’s post with:
@kateplusmy8- haha totally an uncool comment to leave! Be the #CoolMom
Hailey has had a ton of plastic surgery on her face!
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It's funny, it's only just now it occurs to me that Hailey Glassman might seriously have an angle here. Like, for example, pitching to manage/PR Mady? Or doing the same for Kate? After all, Hailey got a lot of mileage out of shit-talking Jon after they broke up. Maybe she's up for another round? I think the one thing's that crystal clear about this woman is that she has NO scruples in terms of who/what it takes to get her out in front of the tabs again.
It sure looks like Mady is going to go the public route, whether it's modeling or acting or just acting out in public to get attention. She's a chip off the old K8.
I don't think Mady has what it takes to be a model or an actress. Youtube influencer is not going to be an option either as that genre is on it's way out. You are correct when you say she will get attention from acting out. It appears that Cara finally has the peace she was longing for.
I think M will go into modeling and Kate will be jealous.
No offense to Mady but there’s no way sheS model material...that’s totally absurd.
JR 51. I agree with you. She doesn't have charisma or the look that is required. Mother should have given them training in those fields from when they were younger. Just because you were on Reality TV doesn't make you marketable in the entertainment business. I do hope she does well with her life.
I took a look at Hailey's IG, and oh, my...those lips are unfortunate, aren't they? I don't know why that puffy duck-lipped look is popular these days, but it's just awful. Anyone else notice how many food photos she posts? That's normal when you're trying to sell your "luxe" lifestyle, but she seems to eat the same two things--avocado toast and lobster--over and over. It's not exciting to look at dozens of photos of the same exact things. As for the lifestyle she's trying to sell (it looks like the "PR" thing she claims is a pseudonym for "IG lifestyle influencer"), I'm not fooled. She posts photos of Gucci boots, Louboutin heels, Hermes boxes and bags, etc.--but no pictures of her actually wearing them. It's obvious those labels are paying her to promote their wares, and allow her to photograph them and post them, but she doesn't actually own them. Nice try, Hailey!
She may influence Mady to try the same type of "work", but I don't know that it's going to pay off for Mady. If Hailey isn't getting loot for free, then Mady isn't going to, either. I doubt that she could make a living doing something like that. I hope Mady stays in college and finds a solid career that she enjoys and that allows her to be her own person.
BTW, a person I admire once said that "the first rule of living a lifestyle of luxury is not talking about your lifestyle of luxury". She was absolutely correct.
Radar Online has a lead story that Kate admitted that TLC terminated here after unlicensed filming of the four youngest.
From Dmasy --
Radar Online has a story about Kate. Headline says that she admitted in court that TLC has terminated their association with her.
Article is short and sweet.
I wonder if it's true. Hmmm. And if they've terminated her, doesn't her contract state she's not free to go sell her "wares" to another network (was there something in Hoffman's book about this?)? Or at least put a time limit on her?
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Oh, I hope that's true! It would make sense--she put TLC at tremendous risk with the filming-without-permits stunt. They must have realized that they can't trust her, and that she would be happy to cause them legal problems in the future if it meant she could continue filming. TLC created a monster, and only TLC can stop her.
It also would explain why the court papers mention a dating show (by whatever name). Why would the name change if it was still through TLC? She must be shopping it around to other networks, hoping someone bites. K+8 is dead in the water--there is no 8. Boy, do I hope that report is true!
Radar Online has a story about Kate. Headline says that she admitted in court that TLC has terminated their association with her.
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You’re fired!!
Poor Schmoops.
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2020/01/tlc-terminate-relationship-kate-gosselin-found-in-contempt-by-judge-court-jon/
Wow, what a nice late Xmas present.
Goldangit, I just made a resolution to NOT read Radar anymore! What lousy timing!
Schmoopy is bloody well screwed. Now that the 4 remaining cast members won't be able to earn their keep through filming, I'm guessing one or 2 may be shunted off to Dad's. Stay tuned.
I guess this explains why she's been so quiet on her social media.
I cannot believe this. TLC didn't even terminate the Duggars. I truly thought Kate would be begging TLC to keep filming her...in ANY way...for the rest of her life. And judging how she always gets her way with them I expected her to continue to show up on tv. If this is true, I am SHOCKED. (and could not be happier)
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And just like coupon cabin-TLC realizes she not authentic and is more of a liability. Bye Felicia
Now what else can she do?! What other channel would touch her? Does this mean she will have to get a real job? Will she have to declare bankruptcy to keep the house and car(s)? Will the 4 hostages have to leave the expensive private school?
I am shocked she admitted that in court....
Teri
Radar Online has a story about Kate. Headline says that she admitted in court that TLC has terminated their association with her.
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TOOT! TOOT! It looks like the karma train really has pulled in to the station and the dining car is serving TFW exactly what she deserves. Next stop “I’m A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here”. I’d hate to be one of the remaining 4 in that house right now. You know she’s ranting and raving and woe be it to anyone that doesn’t toe the “I hate Jon” line. I hope that they know they can call him at any time.
Cancel culture finally came to bite TFW in the behind. TLC has no choice but to cut her off. If all the court to-do about the college episode starts circling back to them they have to say oh well don’t look at us as soon as we realized our error we took all the steps we could to cut ties. Kate what did we tell you? The moment tlc no longer needs you they’ll launch you in a rocket faster than the US trying to get to the moon first.
KATES FIRED!!! LETS DO A HAPPY DANCE! KARMA FINALLY HAS ARRIVED
Her tv days are over.. I would advise her to get off of social media because they are ripping her to shreds on her instagram...I mean ITS OVER KATE.. go live your life.. I mean if she can without a camera in her plastic face
Also it’s obvious no one is protecting her anymore. She’s getting it from all ends at lightening speed... mostly because of her arrogance.. a known narcissist trait
This is great news! However....remember how the WE network took in Honey Boo Boo's momma after TLC dumped her? There's always a cable network out there willing to throw some money at has-beens, hoping for a miracle. lol
But in the meantime: Party on the veranda!!!!!! Dress in your best mumu and Crocs!!!
Well, I guess we can add "rule-breaker" and "contract-dishonorer" to Kate's self-generated list of virtues. But you know she's out shopping at least herself to ANY other network that might be interested. She won't be able to use the kids, but as NJGal noted, there are at least a couple of "reality" TV programs she hasn't tapped yet. Big Brother (UK version, if she could get it, that would be a big vacation for her and P-Boy), Survivor, Naked and Afraid, that Bear Grylls show. Yeah, I might even watch some of these. :-)
I think that kat.poo person on Kate's IG must be auditioning for the role of miloandjack.
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@janine.vdh Yes that's great about Colin.. No Doubt.. it's about time the con artist stepped it up... I'm sure he has quite a bit of guilt for not being the best parent when Colin was a young child... but hopefully he's making up for that now... and yes I have seen his IG. Let's hope they are truly happy and that they are not putting on a facade.... I wonder if he will keep his children first because he is very self-centered... and attracted to the Limelight.
Does this mean skeeve won’t be her bodyguard anymore? If we see them together then it’s obvious something is going on because if there’s no filming then there’s no reason to be with her
Anonymous said... 64
I am shocked she admitted that in court....
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She was probably under oath and had to tell the truth. Seems like that would be pretty easy to verify with TLC anyway, so she couldn't weasel out of it.
I want to know more about the circumstances of tlc cutting ties. Did she indeed mislead them about what she was and wasn’t allowed to do with the kids and filming? I wouldn’t be surprised.
So much of the last court ruling makes sense now. We couldn't understand why the court didn't bar her from filming K+8. It's because there will be no K+8 going forward. She'll never be able to sell herself as a single-struggling-mom-of-8, so all she has left is the possibility of selling her stink-bomb of a dating show to another network. Jon said something about how he doesn't think there will be filming and that he hasn't heard from TLC. I'm sure there's a gag order preventing him from saying anything specific, but that may have been his way of saying that TLC won't be filming them anymore.
I really, really, really hope the story is true. Really.
"However....remember how the WE network took in Honey Boo Boo's momma after TLC dumped her?"
Yes, that unfortunately is a possibility for TFW. We'll have to wait and see if she's really done.
"I want to know more about the circumstances of tlc cutting ties."
We could easily believe Kate would lie about the permits, but you would think TLC would check on something like that. Well, she's no longer queen of TLC. It must infuriate her to see young multiples, pimple popping, and overweight people on there.
Kate is no longer listed on TLC about anything. It is like she never existed to them.
She blew so many opportunities with her arrogance and narcissistic attitude that she will never recover. She could have been a "contender" so to speak.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 74
This also makes me curious about the intricacies of the TLC/Figure 8 relationship. It seems to me that technically, Figure 8 should have been the first port of call on the permits. And I wonder if Kate just lied to them. TLC of course is responsible for airing it, but at the end of the day, this seems like it should be the responsibility of the production company. Figure 8 has done a lot of work for TLC, and they're still filming the Duggars. What a can of worms this could turn out to be.
I think if there is no money, there will be no reason for Skeeve to be there. He is a user the same way she is a user.
She has lost everything. Poor Mother just can't win anymore.
us about the intricacies of the TLC/Figure 8 relationship. It seems to me that technically, Figure 8 should have been the first port of call on the permits. And I wonder if Kate just lied to them. TLC of course is responsible for airing it, but at the end of the day, this seems like it should be the responsibility of the production company.
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This could get reallly complicated. Each will have their arguments why they’re not responsible. If it ever ends up in the courts a judge will have to sort out who’s who but I don’t think a cable network can simply point to a production company and say it’s all their fault. It’s like a car accident. Just because a company that made an airbag for Honda messed up doesn’t mean Honda isn’t responsible in some part.
In one of the G family's contracts printed in Robert's book it states that it is the parents' responsibility to secure any necessary work permits. I suspect it's still her responsibility, and she misled TLC--or blatantly lied to them. She put them at risk and I'm sure they are angry about that. She is universally disliked and her shows get crappy ratings. I'm sure cutting her loose was a no-brainer.
It’s like a car accident. Just because a company that made an airbag for Honda messed up doesn’t mean Honda isn’t responsible in some part.
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I don't think that's a good analogy. The airbag is part of a product that Honda created and owns. TLC licensed the rights to air Kate Plus 8. I don't think the liability is comparable.
It's not clear to me who was informed that work permits were denied. Wasn't a letter sent to an attorney denying the work permits? Whose lawyer was that?
In one of the G family's contracts printed in Robert's book it states that it is the parents' responsibility to secure any necessary work permits. I suspect it's still her responsibility, and she misled TLC--or blatantly lied to them. She put them at risk and I'm sure they are angry about that. She is universally disliked and her shows get crappy ratings. I'm sure cutting her loose was a no-brainer.
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Oh I’m sure they’re livid at this liability but that’s their idiocy for stringing along someone so deranged this long. They tried to delegate the Kermit responsibility but a court of law may not be at all happy with that or absolve them of the responsibility to verify the permits actually happened.
The only reason she would ever admit to a judge that she was fired from TLC would be to cry poor to avoid any fines. I wouldn’t admit that unless I had an ulterior motive. Too embarrassing. Right Katie?
PAPER PLATES FOREVER
So...she best get off her keister and find some employment. I know reality television pays well, but come on, it doesn't pay THAT well!
Recap, her kids aren't "little kids" anymore. She doesn't have 8 children to support anymore. They supposedly all have college funds. So...
What does she need reality television finances for?
Sounds like regular-ville is calling. It won't kill you Katie. You can go back.
I think TFW's situation is different than Mama June's in that for the latter, the train wreck was the brand. The more scandal, the better, so she was able to sell her circus to another network. I don't think that'll work for Schmoopy. "Um, I know longer have 8 kids, but I'm still super interesting! Two years ago, I grew a pepper!"
I don't think that's a good analogy. The airbag is part of a product that Honda created and owns. TLC licensed the rights to air Kate Plus 8. I don't think the liability is comparable.
It's not clear to me who was informed that work permits were denied. Wasn't a letter sent to an attorney denying the work permits? Whose lawyer was that?
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I’m still not convinced a network can simply delegate such an important responsibility to a parent and not take reasonable steps to verify the proper legal paperwork is in place before rolling. Who knows if this scenario has ever been brought to the courts before.
I haven't been on here in years! I'm SO glad to see Collin and Hannah doing well with Jon!! I was reading reviews on google about the place that Collin was at for so long. That poor little guy!! Hopefully, the other kids will get together with their dad soon. I can't believe that Kate is finally starting to reap for all the horrible things she has done over the years!
LancasterCountyMom
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 87
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It's not clear to me who was informed that work permits were denied. Wasn't a letter sent to an attorney denying the work permits? Whose lawyer was that?
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That letter was shown in one of the Daily Mail articles that came out when Jon was un-gagged. It was from the PA Department of Labor to a Larry Drapkin at an L.A. law firm (Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp). They could be lawyers for any of the three parties (Kate, TLC, or Figure 8), but I think he's most likely Kate's attorney, as the letter talks about applications submitted and signed by Kate. It was dated June 15, 2018, after the court had decreed that filming was not in the best interests of the children, and it refers to that decision. And it also mentions that Jon's permission was needed based on that court finding.
So my guess is that Kate never told Figure 8/TLC that permits had been denied. She was clearly in charge of the permit process; even if the applications were prepped by someone else, she signed them.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7555649/Jon-Gosselin-rips-greedy-Kate-TLC-defying-court-ban-filming-children.html
So my guess is that Kate never told Figure 8/TLC that permits had been denied. She was clearly in charge of the permit process; even if the applications were prepped by someone else, she signed them.
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How stupid do you have to be to leave such an important step to somebody as dumb as Schmoopy?? I’m surprised she even bothered to fill out paperwork in the first place and didn’t just skip straight to “the permits were approved” lie. What intern was on duty who was supposed to collect them??
Anonymous said... 64
I am shocked she admitted that in court....
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She was probably whining to the judge about the “purse full of bills” that she can’t pay - hence the reason the judge shouldn’t make her pay up to Jon.
My guess is that by her knowing allowing filming without permits, she opened them up to a myriad of liability which was probably activated a termination with cause clause (or something similar). If one of the kids had been injured during filming without a permit, there could have been massive consequences because there was no legal coverage. If she was terminated with cause, my hunch is there is a gag clause or a no-compete clause sitting in there with a massive financial penalty attached to it for breaking it. She created the mess which impacted their bottom line so they will not allow her to profit off it. It’s all speculation, but it’s the logical assumption.
Foxy - I just went to TLC.com and clicked on shows then clicked on view all shows. Kate+8 and Kate+Date are both there towards the end of the list with watchable episodes
Can someone remind me of the details of Hannah moving in with Jon and how she came to that decision? My memory is fuzzy on that part...
My guess is that by her knowing allowing filming without permits, she opened them up to a myriad of liability which was probably activated a termination with cause clause (or something similar). If one of the kids had been injured during filming without a permit, there could have been massive consequences because there was no legal coverage. If she was terminated with cause, my hunch is there is a gag clause or a no-compete clause sitting in there with a massive financial penalty attached to it for breaking it. She created the mess which impacted their bottom line so they will not allow her to profit off it. It’s all speculation, but it’s the logical assumption.
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Absolutely. It can’t be exaggerated how serious this is. Even criminal liability.
I decided to pull the forms (the blanks) with the penalties attached to see what is involved here (out of curiosity). Off the top, she apparently broke Title 18 section 4903 which is a misdemeanor in the 3rd degree (affirming false statements)
and I bet the termination of contract came from this section here at the bottom of the form:
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STATEMENT OF EMPLOYER: In applying for the Special Performance Permit, I certify that, to the best of my knowledge
and belief, all statements above are true and accurate. I understand that false statements are subject to 18 Pa. §4904 (relating to penalties for unsworn falsifications).
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IF they signed off on it, and it was not accurate, then TLC/production company got tangled into that which is also a misdemeanor in the third degree.
In case you are curious, the penalty for that is 6-12 months in prison and up to a $2500 fine. (which she and the production company could be penalized with)
The 4904 section also has a part D which in addition to all that has a broad provision for a fine of at least $1000 (with no upper bound)... that section probably set the production company's teeth on edge because a judge could make an example of them and give some outrageous fine.
If you are curious, here's the form and then just copy/paste the sections of law and they will pop up.
It was from the PA Department of Labor to a Larry Drapkin at an L.A. law firm (Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp).
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Thank you for the link. The article says the attorney worked for TLC. If that is accurate, then liability lies squarely with TLC. I'm not sure how firing Kate would absolve them of liability.
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Anonymous said... 64
I am shocked she admitted that in court....
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She was probably whining to the judge about the “purse full of bills” that she can’t pay - hence the reason the judge shouldn’t make her pay up to Jon.
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The topic of filming would have been discussed in court since filming the kids without permits was the reason for the hearing. I'm sure she was questioned about her current status with TLC and about the possibility of future filming (with or without the kids). That's when she would have told them that TLC terminated her.
This would explain her long absence from IG. She hasn't posted anything since the lost episode, and that's more than 3 months ago. No pictures of the twins' birthday or Thanksgiving, none of her annual photos of the cinnamon rolls she bakes or her half-decorated tree. No pictures of the kids with their presents on Christmas morning. Not even a picture of one of the dogs. Very out of character for her--she hasn't missed a Christmas morning picture since she joined IG. Now we know why she missed this year.
I guess I'm a little late to this party and just learning about the Radar Online article. But of course couldn't be happier! I did see one comment someone posted that I had to share and I agree 100%:
"I don't even follow this s*** show but this has to be the best work of karma in 2020 I've seen yet!"
Despite all this, TFW probably still won't admit responsibility. Even money that TFW will find a way to blame Jon for this whole brouhaha. To paraphrase Mythbusters: "I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
LancasterCountyMom (#89), nice to see you!
Regarding the work permits...the last person I'd trust with that responsibility is Katie "No Never Means No" Irene. I guess she was going with the ol' "better to ask forgiveness than permission" theory. She probably figured she could just shrug her shoulders and bat her eyes and say,"What do I know about those things? I'm a busy single mom of 8!"
Bet she was planning for a Sweet 16 special for the tups in May. TLC has foot the bill for lots of Duggar trips to Europe -- this could've been her big chance to make it there on their dime. Ah, but then she turned her tups into quads, and ruined her brand. Shortsighted thinking, Schmoops. Perhaps she should go to WE and try to pitch "4 Castmembers and Counting Down."
I wonder if tlc allowed her to keep her paycheck for this episode or they let her keep it because she did the “work” of appearing on it ,etc
That’s what schmoopy gets by treating TLC as family with a crew full of daddies. She once said in an interview, the show may go away but the family aspect of TLC never would. What a rude awakening for her.
Gigi Be
Kate Fired by TLC.....Happy 2020 ya'll
https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2020/01/03/fired-by-tlc-kate-gosselin-reveals-network-has-terminated-its-contract-with-her/
Kate really is too stupid for her own good. If she had kept her relationship with Jon amicable and encouraged a good relationship with all the kids the children could have had heart to hearts with Jon and explained why they wanted to continue filming. Or he could have seen that filming is not affecting them as much because they have healthy relationships etc. Maybe Jon would have worked with Kate under certain stipulations for filming the kids. Maybe only in summer when they don’t have school. Maybe updates only. Especially now that the kids are so much older.
Personally I don’t think filming them is good for them so I’m glad he’s not allowing it.
And I’m so loving that TLC is done with her. It’s just so deserved for such a long time.
I wish I could have been there when she got canned.
I understand this criminal activity but what about her institutionalization of Collin because he could no longer film? Couldn't she/TLC be sued for wrongful treatment of a child? Could Jon sue her on behalf of Collin? I am horrified she got away with institutionalizing Collin for apparently no real reason.
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Chef (#104), what a nice surprise to see you! Hope all is well with you.
Happy New Year.
AuntieAnn, are you out there? I hope you've just been too busy to comment, but I have missed you.
Would love to see some more of our old friends stopping by. As PatK said (#70), it's party time on the verandah!
103-Meant to say if they let her keep her pay for the episode or if she was forced to cough it up and give it back
-Gigi Be
CC (#105), yes, her utter refusal to co-parent brought everything tumbling down. Her stubbornness was somehow a source of pride to her, like when she actually bragged about Jon not knowing where his son was.
Like she was displaying some kind of strength by withholding that information. Such a childish way to deal with something so very serious.
She could have continued her career and made a comfortable living if she'd only adapted a bit to the way things were, and not the way she wished they'd be. She gambled and lost.
Anonymous said... 98
True, TLC may also be liable. But the work permit process is by law in the hands of the parents, and Kate (or her attorney) would surely have been cc'd on this letter and would have known, from the prior court rulings, that she needed Jon's sign-off. What was in the letter to the attorney may well have been new information to him/TLC. I don't know how she thought she would get around this, but I also don't think that TLC was necessarily aware of all of the details of her court encounters with Jon.
If this makes TLC liable as well as Kate, so much the better. But in that case, you'd think they would have had to show up for the contempt hearing along with Kate. Unless they quietly paid whatever fine was assessed and then slunk away.
True, TLC may also be liable. But the work permit process is by law in the hands of the parents, and Kate (or her attorney) would surely have been cc'd on this letter and would have known, from the prior court rulings, that she needed Jon's sign-off. What was in the letter to the attorney may well have been new information to him/TLC. I don't know how she thought she would get around this, but I also don't think that TLC was necessarily aware of all of the details of her court encounters with Jon.
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We know she lies, and executives at TLC busy as they are might not have been paying as close enough attention as they should have to this situation before it got out of hand. I wouldn't be surprised if she's lied six ways from Sunday to TLC about everything, from the permits to what was happening with custody with Jon to the various lawsuits. After all much of the family law case was confidential, so it would have been confidential from TLC too. They would have simply have had to rely much on Kate's own representations to know what's really going on. And with Kate, that's not the best idea.
Kate likely has one or two point people at TLC who deal with her and report back to the whole network. So I can easily imagine without a bunch of checks and balances it really would only take one or two people to get hoodwinked by Kate before the whole house of cards crumbles.
Ultimate karma, TLC finds a way to sue HER for this. They would have the nerve.
If this makes TLC liable as well as Kate, so much the better. But in that case, you'd think they would have had to show up for the contempt hearing along with Kate.
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That was their family law case, and the judge's orders were as to Kate. I'm not sure he would even have jurisdiction to say much to TLC no matter how much they contributed. He made certain orders to Kate some time ago, she violated them, she's the one in contempt. Remember, this is a family law judge assigned to oversee the custody of children, and that's the extent of his role.
That's the family law case. Where TLC could be in deep trouble is with the state, with the DA, and with the labor department. And there you're looking at civil and even criminal problems. Jon, even Kate, could also sue TLC over this. Kate could claim they contributed to the negligence. This is likely to get messier.
TLC and Figure 8 have some responsibility in this mess. They should have demanded to see the work permits before they started filming. It's TLC/ Figure 8 responsibility to verify that all paperwork is complete before they start filming.
Andrea
FlimsyFlamsy mentioned a sweet sixteen special this year...I had forgotten about that! Ohhh, Katie, what have you done? Hahahaha.
I bet Jon and Colleen will make their 16th birthday somewhat special for Hannah and Collin and post pics on Instagram. And I hope it adds to the growing pile of stuff sticking in Katie's craw.
From Dmasy --
Lori Laughlin is in the news as she prepares to go to jail for her collage admission fraud.
I am sure the media made this story bigger than it needed to be because celebrities were involved.
Kate (and possibly TLC) have defied a judge's order and committed a criminal act.
It would be karma for Kate if her story is picked up and reported with gallows glee by media sites.
Finally ... but, sad for the kids.
From Dmasy --
Lori Laughlin is in the news as she prepares to go to jail for her collage admission fraud.
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Lori Laughlin has completely lost her mind. That is all.
Good to see you, FlimsyFlamsy, too! Thanks!
LancasterCountyMom
Wouldn’t the judge want written proof that TLC terminated her contract? She may have provided that, I don’t know. TLC probably informed her by letter or text so they wouldn’t have to endure her probable temper tantrum. I am wonder if this termination statement came as a surprise to Jon in court.
From Dmasy --
FOTK (118), can't you just imagine her scrounging through sloppy piles of paper in her cluttered bedroom. All the while muttering, "Now, where did I put that insignificant document from a frivolous judge? It must be here somewhere."
Can we sue? This is what Kate used to say in her hay day. I wonder if TLC is considering suing Kate because of the difficult position she put them in because she didn't get the work permits.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 107
Chef (#104), what a nice surprise to see you! Hope all is well with you.
Happy New Year.
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:-)
Had to comment when I saw that KK was fired on my new feed.
I can't believe KK got canned by TLC. Have to admit I laughed when I saw it poor kids though.
Sounds like Kate needs to downsize, and soon. And Jon needs to firm up that parental alienation problem & see the remaining four little servants. Because the only reason the kids are of any value to Kate right now, is for chores. There is no longer any incentive for Kate to treat any of them well. Once people hold no value to her, they are toast.
I am still a little wary about the latest story. It seems too good to be true. Just a couple days ago I said that I hope that we don't see any of the Gs on TV, not even Kate doing something by herself--and it looks like that may be happening. I think about her IG silence for the last 3 months and it looks like something hit her hard. She'd at least post a picture of the dog--something to keep her followers interested. But she hasn't. If she had any hope for future shows she'd try to keep their attention. She never stays silent for this long. Looking back, the story about the kids filming without permits hit about a week after the lost episode aired. I'm sure she--and TLC--got word of it even before it made the news. And she just disappeared. Did TLC terminate her immediately--last October--and we are now just hearing about it? Something caused her a big shock right after that episode aired. And yet...it still seems too good to be true.
I wonder if Kate is going to pull the 4 remaining hostages out of school and tell them it is all their father's fault. Now they can't attend the private school, they may need to sell the house, no more fancy parties, no "salt for the pool", etc. It is all Jon's fault.
I have a feeling that she thought Skeeve would leave his wife for her and so it was her plan to kick Jon to the curb and she could live happily ever after. There is a lot to this story that will come out eventually. Golly Gee must be smiling from heaven.
It’s over and she knows it! I still think it’s probably worse than we know.. the last thing she’s worried about is social media
And I’m sure she’s in shock and grieving all this...even though she caused it all. But she won’t see it that way, narcs never do. I’m sure she has a voodoo doll of Jon with tons of needles in it
Layla said... 124
I'm with you. Kate has proven, time and again, that she is the unflushable a**wipe. I'm sure she's got something up her sleeve. However, it might be on the order of "now's the time for Jon to get the rest of 'his' kids"! I could easily see her putting him on the spot like that, just because she could.
Boyson said... 127
I think this is just the tip of the iceberg.
I believe Kate was not fired from TLC. There is no statement from TLC, Kate is still on TLC's website. Her previous shows are still available for streaming (except the on aired without work permits). Kate is a known liar.
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I agree with "tip of the iceberg." It's entirely possible that she will try to retaliate against TLC in some way, by highlighting the phoniness of their "reality" shows, for example, in which she was complicit. Or who knows what she knows? But if she lied to the judge, and TLC does have any further dealings with her, then she'll have perjured herself, and I can see another contempt charge coming her way.
Otherwise? Well, maybe THAT contract with TLC was terminated, but she has one or more others (in which case I guess she's not technically lying). But why would TLC go to such lengths to support someone who is bringing such bad PR to their programming?
As for the FB and episodes TLC owns and maintains: All they care about is that these draw viewers, and they do that with or without Kate actually being in their employ. They own ALL the rights to these items, and there are plenty of people out there who claim to love watching the episodes of the original J&K+8. These are maintained strictly for eyeballs, it costs them nothing. They haven't bothered to update the K+8 FB page since the day of the lost episode's airing. And if they don't shut it down completely (which they never did in 2011, the first time they canned her), I can't see them adding anything to it in the near future, unless it's some totally unauthentic accolades for TLC's other multiples shows.
"Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp"
This reminds me of Kate's old lawyers, Laverne and Shirley.
Since TFMJG cannot film her children without a lot of hoops to jump through, and since she is also single, perhaps a 90 Day Fiance would be interested. Just think of her basking in the sun, playing in the surf, tanning at poolside, charming some young, good looking guy in a beautiful Caribbean setting. The 4 darlings left at home can fend for themselves.
I wonder if the fact that Clairissa commented on Mady’s post means that Kate has gotten in contact with her family and is perhaps asking for donations or financial help. After all when she was a stah she didn’t need them. But now that she is in dire straits shes probably trying to crawling back.
Gigi Be
As long as jon was under a gag order, Kate knew she had all the power. She only lives in the moment. She didn’t think that one day the shackles would be released and Jon would have a voice. She really is a parasite of the lowest caliber. She had those kids to live off of them...now she will try to turn the narrative and when that doesn’t work, she will give those liabilities to Jon. As soon as she can’t afford to pay off -i mean give things Willy nilly-to Mady,..Mady will be saying “Kate who” and looking for ways to make it on her own. When modeling and tv don’t work out, she will fall back on a book about mommy dearest and she will continue on the gift of victimhood that she learned at the feet of her shrew of a mother....while she kicks her mother to the curb-as she also learned from that shrew. The karma train is coming in like the one in the movie Unstoppable.
Again I will say Mady becoming a model is so ridiculous..and why in the world would she be on Tv unless it’s in the context of Kate plus eight and we know that’s never happening again. So all of these little scenarios are kinda off the charts
While I believe Kate may currently struggle with finances day to day, I have no doubt that she has socked away a very comfortable golden parachute for herself. There were literally millions of dollars flowing through her hands. She and Jon have both claimed that the trusts for the kids' college educations were fully funded, but I don't know whether these trusts (as opposed to their "15%" earnings trusts) were permitted to be raided for other expenses or not. All that money flowed without the supervision of a court-appointed GAL or auditor for most of the time the show filmed after she and Jon divorced. If there's little to no money left for the kids to continue in their private school (assuming she is unable to find the sort of employment that would allow her to spend $50K+/year on 3.5 years of school for four kids), then that certainly begs for an audit of the last 10 years.
We know that Jon has been granted custody/guardianship of whatever is in Hannah's and Collin's "trusts," so maybe this is all being sorted out now. If not, I hope the judge and GAL continue to press for this information, which was originally requested of her in April 2018. I wonder how long she will be allowed to go without furnishing further details. I don't believe this part is over by a long shot.
I’m sure when the 4 go off to college she’ll sell that house... why in the world does she need that house and 23 acres for one person...I’m sure she has enough to retire right now...
I think they’re actually looking into if she mishandled the kids money... so says Jon himself..no wonder she’s in hiding.. god only knows what they will find..this whole thing has blown wide open now...I mean she could be in serious legal trouble. Couldn’t happen to a nicer narcissist
And yet she still finds defenders:
stjude62366
It so discusting how this man does not want to be married to this woman becaus3 he found her controlling but want to control her and her way of making money it it is so true how lazy he was you decide to to having so many children how do you expect to make money if you can not afford daycare at least one thing i can say about kate is she did not have a housekeeper took care of her home and her children on her own and yes expected her husband to help her i never liked him from the first day i saw 5he show because kate was the one that took care of the children and to force the idot to care for his own children those children that are under his care now they came to him because one did not did not like structure or rules and that is what she has now they other child had behavioral issues and she wanted to see if he could have tools to fix it will see how long those kids last their or he get bored
Of course, this person is lacking facts. No housekeeper? Come on.
I wonder how any of them would have reacted to a metephorical boot on their neck for an entire childhood.
From The Sun, U.K. newspaper, Jan 4, 2020 - KATE WAS CANNED, TLC star Kate Gosselin reveals she was fired by network in stunning court admission.
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I've been wondering if Kate hasn't been feeling some financial pressure for awhile now. There have been some clues that she's not living the way she was once accustomed to living. Take, for example, that mismatched wood floor.
Apparently one of the dogs damaged the wood floor, and instead of having it repaired or replaced she slapped on some random flooring that looks nothing like the rest of it. Why not pick one type of flooring and have it all done the same? Unless she can't afford it. Relatives in the area have mentioned that the yard is not kept up the way it used to be. Of course, TLC was probably footing the bill for landscaping and yard care when they filmed, but now she has to pay for it--and from what I hear, she's not doing much with it.
In the last birthday picture she posted of herself, the sofa in the kitchen sitting area was missing. Sure, it was old and ratty, but she didn't replace it--it was just gone. Her cars are getting pretty old. She bought the van and the SUV in 2011, and the SUV was used. She always seemed to like shiny new cars, yet she's now driving some that are almost 10 years old.
So, is she feeling the pressure? there haven't really been that many episodes since TLC let her back onboard. During that time she's obviously had to pay somewhere in the 6 figures in legal expenses. Her ability to raid the kids' trust funds has been stopped, and she's now unemployed--again. Still, I can't imagine her going back to a "mediocre" job. She'd rather die. What happens now?
Layla said... 124
I am still a little wary about the latest story. It seems too good to be true
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I'm here to many times we thought she was done only later to pop back up. Everyone like a trainwreck and she's a big one.
Hopefully she won't talk the twins in a show with her.
JR said... 137
I’m sure when the 4 go off to college she’ll sell that house... why in the world does she need that house and 23 acres for one person
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For the coming grandbabies and in-laws don't ya know. I think they'll have to repo her mansion she won't give it up without a fight.
Anonymous said... 139
From The Sun, U.K. newspaper, Jan 4, 2020 - KATE WAS CANNED, TLC star Kate Gosselin reveals she was fired by network in stunning court admission.
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Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead!
She's going to have a hard time finding a "mediocre" job because who would want to hire her? All a potential employer has to do is google "Kate Gosselin" and they'd find thousands of reasons why they should not hire her.
Chef (#142), "awnestly," I don't think TFW gives a hoot about grandkids or inlaws. She'll want to keep the "mine all mine" mansion because she thinks SHE deserves it.
I bet she'll be the mother-law from hell, and the only way she'd host her kids' spouses' families is if it's for an episode, and there's a TLC crew there to do clean up afterwards. She might coo over some grandchildren, but she'll see them on her terms and her time. And as I've predicted for a decade, at least one of her Eight Little Faces will not let their children anywhere near her.
😁😂😂... in laws??? She at war with the whole world. Do you think she’s gonna accept in laws? She can’t even get along with her own family let alone people who might have influence over their lives... not happening. And if was brought up by her I certainty wouldn’t want her narcissism around my kids
Yes she’s been canned before by TLC... but this timed she caused them a legal problem... no one has a crystal ball... who know what will happen... TLC is very fickle
Who wants that’s house anyway... besides the kitchen the whole house is outdated and needs work... she always wanted a warm climate nows her chance ... she is being crucified on social media and elsewhere...honestly I don’t think I could handle all this bashing...this is causing a narcissistic injury... not to mention having to give Jon money????? Oh brother!!
I agree with those who think she has some new way to appear on tv again. We've been through this so many times before. But I think Collin's letter would be a deal breaker with any normal employer. Her cruelty and lies are right there in black and white. As far as her money, Jon did say in response to her dating show, something like... if it keeps the electric on...(it would be ok
with him). Not something you would say to a millionaire.
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JR (#147), yes, perhaps the most painful aspect of this for TFW is not having her narc supply flowing. So many times over the years we'd notice her going quiet on SM and assume there was some other source of affirmation and adulation filling that need. And sure enough, we'd find out she'd been filming and/or traveling. But now where is she getting that support from? I doubt she was flooded with Christmas presents and gift cards from her "fans." And no more paper towels magically appearing on her doorstep.
Not sure if school starts tomorrow for the 4 remaining (ex-?) cast memmbers, but my guess is they're counting the minutes until they can be out of that house. Things can't be too pleasant at Ms. Gosselin's Home For Exploited Children.
She's "love" the in-law and grandbabies to compete with Jon.
She's not going to let go. Of anything. If we all recall here. This was Kate's dream. What Kate wanted. What Kate sought out. TLC/Discovery didn't come seeking her. Kate sought them out. Kate pushed this narrative. Kate wanted to film. Her children? They never actually had a choice.
So...Kate has always gotten what she's wanted. The filming, the trips, the house, the fame, the books, the talk shows, the whatever. It's all about Kate.
Kate is the one who quit her job. Why? To devote herself to what exactly? The filming of her "reality show>" Not her life. The filming of reality television. Normal parents don't quit their 9-5 working jobs here. Normal mother's do quit their jobs to take care of babies and toddlers yes, that happens. But she's quit her real nursing job to devote to filming for years. Her children are now teenagers. Mot parents go back to work, or school after I don't know, a while. Some are blessed and stay home, that's true and for those who do, you are wonderful.
Kate? Kate didn't do it to be a school mother she did it to pump her children out to film them and herself.
She brought this on herself. So no I don't see her letting go. I see her sitting there in this mess---I cringe she's try and write another tell-all book oh lord like we need that! Or beg for something else because according to herself it's KATE who can't go back. Don't plenty of reality stars go back to working regular jobs? Other one-hit wonders? Isn't that what Kate Gosselin really is? A one-hit wonder?
I think Kate is having a little battle with herself right now. She can't afford to take care of that house & she knows it. The kids aren't bringing in money & that's why she had them. Does she stay & suffer with her remaining kids (who are now worthless to her), or (gasp) does she say to hell with it & give them to Jon so she can get out of PA? She fought tooth & nail to keep them, but they are of no use to her any more. A narcissist's nightmare. I think she'll give them to Jon & bolt.
just wondering said... 152
I think she'll give them to Jon & bolt.
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You know, I have been thinking the same. I think it's going to take quite a while to offload that house, and I think she's going to have to come to some resolution with Jon over the kids' money. Of course if she just takes off, or if she doesn't go back to some kind of job, he'll never see a dime in child support. And if they don't have much left in their trusts, that could be a problem. This is why forensic accounting is so important for Jon. Someone needs to calculate all the actual income and scrutinize expenses, since I think there were a lot of questionable items (Skeeve, for one) charged to the kids over the years.
But right now, I bet she's calling every single reality show in existence and waiting by the phone. We know it has never bothered her to leave the kids for her other gigs, including K8+Date. And it won't bother her to leave the kids with Jon as long as there's a camera pointed at her somewhere.
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I think it's going to take quite a while to offload that house
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You're right, large houses that require a lot of upkeep are sitting on the market for a long time in her area--months or even years. There's no thriving job market in the area, and there's plenty of land readily available where people can custom-build their dream home. If Kate decides to sell, it will take a long time and she won't get a premium price for it. Even then, the house is in both her name and the kids' trust, so she won't get to keep all the profits for herself. A portion of it would go to the kids.
I'm sure she's hustling madly to try to get a new show, but think about it--the last TLC cut her loose, nobody else wanted her. And that was when she was far more popular than she is now. She's carrying a lot of baggage now, too. Only a few of her kids remain with her and she can't guarantee that they can participate in filming. It's been years since any of her shows has gotten a million viewers. She's notoriously difficult to work with, she is almost universally disliked, and she was fired for putting her last network in legal jeopardy. Who's going to want to take a chance with her? It's obvious that nobody can package her in a way that people will want to watch. I think she's done.
I'm starting to relax and let myself believe that she really was canned. If that wasn't true, she'd have "set the record straight" by now. If not on some talk show or in People Magazine, then at least on her social media. She couldn't resist a chance to thumb her nose at the haters. But she hasn't.
Layla (#154), yes, surely if that TLC story was poppycock, those french tips would've tapped out a "set the record straight" post in record time. She hasn't cared much about seeming like a crappy mother, but something so explosive as a legal matter possibly jeopardizing future employment would definitely get her attention.
I have never seen the show Survivor, but I would watch Kate on it or on my favorite, Amazing Race. I would love to actually see her sweat, grunt, & eat scorpions. I would even make popcorn & pity her partner. Is there anything more challenging that she could enter? What a way to say Bye!
just wondering (#156), in TFW'S case, she could pitch a Survivor edition featuring what's left of her family. "Survivor: Last Tup (Quad) Standing." Who will finally get to stay as she starts sending cast members one at a time to their dad's? Or will she just dump them all in the first episode and head to a warmer climate to live off the millions Purse Boy helped her invest?
" starting to relax and let myself believe that she really was canned She couldn't resist a chance to thumb her nose at the haters."
That's a good point. She always wanted to get one over the haters. She knows they're dancing the jig at her misfortune. At one of her silly marathons(chances to be with Skeeve and away from kids), she wore a T-shirt that said she was running for the haters. Her marathon mania didn't last long.
Not sure what is meant by "spoilers," but this maybe means some kind of confirmation by TLC?
https://www.inquisitr.com/5822515/kate-gosselin-plus-8-tlc/
You're right, large houses that require a lot of upkeep are sitting on the market for a long time in her area--months or even years
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She really could be screwed with that house. The interior was dated when Kate bought it, but is so dated now anyone who buys would have to strip it down to the bones. Circa 2002 might work for a cheaper house, but isn't going to fly when you're looking for McMansion buyers.
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It's going to take more than a decent coat of paint and some decent flooring to update that house. The latest trend in my area is to have bathrooms that look like you're in a high-end spa. Heated floors, towel warmers, mosaic tile, freestanding soaking tubs, Waterworks fixtures, even chandeliers. I can't imagine how much those kinds of upgrades would cost. But it's the houses with the tricked-out bathrooms, kitchens, and family rooms that sell fast and sell for top dollar.
There are many houses close to Kate's that are just as big as hers, are situated on 2-3 acres (far more manageable) and are newer and more up-to-date. Those houses are selling for $500,000 to $650,000 and they're taking awhile to sell. She'd better have a pile of cash socked away or she's in trouble.
Personally I kind of like the thought of her sitting all alone in a run-down house in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by the "mediocre" people she despises, knowing that's the best she will ever do. NYC will no longer be her "second home". She may still consider herself a "CA girl at heart", but she'll never actually be a California girl. She'll always be a Ghettoville girl instead. Sadly, she sold her kids' childhoods just to get that.
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It's going to take more than a decent coat of paint and some decent flooring to update that house. The latest trend in my area is to have bathrooms that look like you're in a high-end spa. Heated floors, towel warmers, mosaic tile, freestanding soaking tubs, Waterworks fixtures, even chandeliers. I can't imagine how much those kinds of upgrades would cost. But it's the houses with the tricked-out bathrooms, kitchens, and family rooms that sell fast and sell for top dollar.
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Yes, kitchen and bathrooms are everything and in almost all houses that sell quickly here they’re leaning more clean and modern and less of that heavy wood homey look kate has. And that old fashioned separate dining room is simply a relic of the old money and not what people are looking for anymore. Not to mention the burden of the land and out buildings she hasn’t kept up with. She’ll be able to unload it but likely at a loss. If there’s any chance she thought she might sell this house eventually she never should have bought it.
That said I think the outside looks good and is still on trend.
Can I just address the elephant in the room please? Regarding Kate’s supporters who post their opinions: they can’t spell properly, can’t form a decent sentence to save their lives so I am just throwing it out there that we aren’t dealing with scholars and intellects here. Based on this obvious fact one can extrapolate that most of her supporters are dumdums that can’t critically think like all of us here. Lol!!
PAPER PLATES FOREVER
Am I the only one who is getting Grey Gardens deja vu vibe over the house?
Am I the only one who is getting Grey Gardens deja vu vibe over the house?
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I was thinking that last night with Kate & Mady. They could call it the Kold Kompound
If I was her, i would separate the land and sell those to bring money in.
Paper Plates (163)
Her supporters don't even have a decent argument in her favor. They just insult anyone who doesn't support her, or blame Jon. There is no critical thought there at all.
Jtn (164)
We have long speculated about a Grey Gardens future for Ghettoville Girl. It's All she needs now is for one of her daughters to stay at home with her for a few decades.
Cbus13 (166)
That makes sense, but I don't know that she'd do that. She couldn't brag about the number of acres she lives on if she sold it off. As it is, that land is nothing but a liability for her. Not to mention--the kids also own that land. If she sells it, she'd have to give them their fair share of the money instead of pocketing it all for herself. Going forward, her ability to make the kids pay for her lifestyle is severely limited. The courts--and Jon-- are watching. Time to start spending her own money for a change!
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I think she gets a pretty significant tax break on those empty acres, since they're classified as agricultural, which would go away if she sold them off separate from the house. Maybe Farmer Henry would want it.
I would just like to take a moment to point out that Kate is still of child-bearing age and knows exactly how to go about fertility treatments and IVF...and probably has the money to make more multiples...and clearly enjoys having no father involved to cause problems with filming them.
Guarantee you there’s a network out there who would broadcast THAT!
Bubbles-no way would tfw ruin her tummy tuck. She’d never get another free one and she’s used, abused and burned every bridge with church helpers, cleaners and not-a-nannies. There’s no way she’d do multiples without a village to help her or finance her or equip her with all matching cribs. She’d be reduced to Nadya Suleman. On state assistance and doing it alone. She’s too narcissistic and vain to do a repeat. The ONLY thing that’s making her wet her unnerwears is how she’s going to account for and hold onto every precious dollar she has hiding. She’s already out $26,500 in a month. She could sell herself on the streets but awnestly? She’d make more money at McDonald’s.
Mady has gotten more than one news story in the past few weeks. She is not that active on social media or news worthy in general. The cynical part of me thinks that Kate might be the source. Mady could be her next source of income. Mady will clearly need Kate to be her manager.
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Mady will clearly need Kate to be her manager.
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I think Mady will have no choice about Kate being her manager. And if she's stupid enough to do it and forego the freedom of college, then she'll deserve every bit of heartache that she'll get.
The speculation about Mady is kinda crazy... the girls in college and clearly happy being away.. so I don’t know where all that’s coming from.. I’m pretty sure her thinking is somewhere else not about Kate being her “ manager “... that’s grasping for straws
Seriously?
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The online bullying against Kate is now being reported to the police. Instagram must do something to stop all of the harassment from repeated offenders!!!
Sad but true (#174), funny, that poster seems to have been fine with TFW physically and emotionally bullying her own son, then kicking him out of his home and never allowing him back. But hurting Schmoopy's feelings on Insta is a matter for the cops?
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The police? That’s hysterical. Which police? The PA State Police? Local precinct? The offending instagramer’s police? How do they know where they live? Will there be a coordinated effort between different states to hunt down and arrest the culprits?
Or did they mean the Instagram Police?
I’d like the see those police reports.
They should have went straight to the FBI. LOL
@Sad but true (138)Apart from this fans bad spelling,i have notice this is the fans excuse for Hannah and Collin being with jon.They didn't like the structure and the rules Kate made the kids do,so there for they wanted to be with jon so they can't get discipline by him?Her last sentence im assuming she's saying Jon will either get bored of Hannah and Collin and not care?I've always loved it how these fans stated the haters always made assumption about Collin and the kids from observing the show,yet here this fan is predicting that both hannah and collin won't last long with Jon.
I’m sure she didn’t call the cops ( like they care)... besides I reported her to instagram... she can’t make threats like that.. no one on there is using any type of threats or hate speech... just opinions 🙄
btw Cara is also looking happy at college with friends, out and doing things, according to pictures on the K+8 kids fansite
Happy New Year, everyone! ❤️❤️
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Seriously?
shoppinggal86
The online bullying against Kate is now being reported to the police. Instagram must do something to stop all of the harassment from repeated offenders!!!
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Reminds me of Bullyville and their class action lawsuit against people who posted their dislike Kate on her Twitter account. History may be repeating itself.
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I don’t post over there but I do read her instagram... I would basically say this person is harmless...
Probably a fake account... but on Jon’s Instagram there a post by Alexisfaith.gosselin with a little heart ... it says it’s a private account... hmmmm
Kate's fans think the police have to be involved to show her how to block people or delete her account. This is the life of fame she wanted. She and her fans can suck it up...or just suck it for that matter.
As far as Kate writing a "tell all" book, it's not going to happen for two reasons...Collin and Hannah. People are sick of Kate running her mouth. She has shown the type of person she is and it's not pretty. We still don't know how she got away with never visiting Collin, keeping and moving him from institutions and never telling Jon where he was. Put me on a jury when Collin sues her and she will be doing her own nails for the rest of her life. There is also the problem of her golden child Hannah, who is very happy with Dad. No way would Kate have just eventually have let her go like she did. Kate is terrified they will talk.
Andrea (180) said...
Reminds me of Bullyville and their class action lawsuit against people who posted their dislike Kate on her Twitter account.
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Ha-ha, I remember that! Bullyville dropped that suit and ran faster than you can say "SLAPP suit". That guy pretty much destroyed himself and his company, for what? Kate Gosselin? I'm sure she never even thanked him for his efforts. As for the police, what are they going to do? She hasn't blocked the offending accounts, she hasn't set her account on private, she hasn't made a complaint to IG, there's no threats. She probably craves the attention, now that TLC is ignoring her.
As far as Kate writing some kind of tell-all book--who would buy it? Or, for that matter, who would publish it? Her last two books have been miserable failures. Why bother writing something nobody will ever read?
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As far as Kate writing some kind of tell-all book--who would buy it? Or, for that matter, who would publish it? Her last two books have been miserable failures. Why bother writing something nobody will ever read?
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I don't think it's possible for Kate to write anything at this point without there being dozens (hundreds? thousands?) of people ready to hold up their hands and say, "Liar." First and foremost, the ex and two banished tups. So she's done with anything autobiographical, at least for the next 20 years. Ditto on any "how-to"-type books: child-rearing, cooking, organizing, all are either been-there/done-that or you-can't-be-serious genres for her.
What's left? I suppose Figure 8 might take her on as a producer of some other family-exploitation-type show---I mean, who's better at squeezing a dime (or pinching a shoulder) than Kate Gosselin?
And yes, I still LMAO at the thought that Mr. Bullyville basically torpedoed his entire career over Katie Irene Kreider (remember her personal account of how she was bullied in HS? It was posted on his website at the time; angels wept---not). His involvement with her brought a great deal of scrutiny to all of his other, even more unsavory online ventures, and the light reflecting off of those was flattering to neither of them.
Unless she starts a YouTube channel---which, let's face it, would require constant cooperation from the four remaining cast members and a lot more technical capability than Kate has ever demonstrated---I am really not sure what sort of next step she can even try. You can bet your life the only prospect she is chasing this point is more TV.
You go, ummm, girl.
Sad but true (185)
I don't think that any production company--or any network--is going to want to go near her. She put her network and production company at great legal risk, and it's obvious she can't be trusted. Would anyone want to take a chance on her after what she did to TLC? It's too much of a risk, especially considering she will never bring in good ratings. Mama June got another show, but let's face it--the ratings for HBB were still pretty high when TLC cut her loose. She was able to bring a sizeable audience with her when she switched networks. Kate can't. Plus Kate is notorious for being a total pain in the a$$ to work with. Why bother?
This latest stunt may be the final nail in her coffin. And she has nobody to blame but herself. She destroyed herself. Not Jon, not Collin, not the "haters". It was all Kate. It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?
So now her "fans" are threatening people who make "negative" comments on IG? Are they serious? She is the ULTIMATE bully! If Kate doesn't like hearing the truth, there is a block button. Do they go to every comment online? The level of crazy in their devotion to her is bizarre. They are the ones doing the stalking if you ask me. I'll report them right back.
Giff (#187), I think her fan base is so small now that what they lack in size, they try to make up for in fervor. When Milo disappeared, I joked that the number of fans went down from 6 to 5. And for all we know, they're all the same person. Possibly someone on TFW's payroll. Or even TFW herself.
This latest stunt may be the final nail in her coffin. And she has nobody to blame but herself. She destroyed herself. Not Jon, not Collin, not the "haters". It was all Kate. It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?
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Turns out in the end there was only one person who could bring Kate down. And her name is also Kate.
I guess Harry and me again are ditching royal life and moving to Canada... they are stepping down whatever the hell that means... sounds like someone has to get a job...
I guess Harry and me again are ditching royal life and moving to Canada... they are stepping down whatever the hell that means... sounds like someone has to get a job...
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They said they’re going to step back as more senior members of the family and split their time between Uk and North America. They also said they want to be independent of the royal finances, which I think is great. They could easily drawn a reasonable salary from their foundations and charities that would support a very comfortable upper middle class lifestyle in many parts of Canada or the US.
This really is for the best and obviously comes after much reflection about what is best for them and their son. Royal life is killing them, and they’re not really needed. William and Kate had plenty of spawn to keep it all alive and they’ll be the next big thing in a flash, and the queen and Prince Charles still do a lot not to mention other more minor members including the popular Wessexes and Princess Anne. Popular as he is Harry really isn’t necessarily. And Harry really only became really big after Meghan. Thank goodness he wasn’t born first because he can’t handle this and at this point I don’t think will ever get over his mother.
They said they’re going to step back as more senior members of the family and split their time between Uk and North America. They also said they want to be independent of the royal finances, which I think is great. They could easily drawn a reasonable salary from their foundations and charities that would support a very comfortable upper middle class lifestyle in many parts of Canada or the US.
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I agree. I feel many of the criticisms stem from them being funded as royals yet not exactly following royal traditions or protocols. This seems like a good compromise and I hope it brings them peace and the nastiness around them dies down.
I really don’t follow the royals... but just by seeing them together it looks like this is not how she wants to live and he probably is fine with it because he can’t stand the scrutiny... didn’t she understand what she signed up for?
Daily Mail has an article on Octomom with a picture of her 8 youngest kids. One of the comments made me smile, "She turned out to be a better mother than Kate +8". Yes, she certainly did. Well done, Nadya.
Good for Harry & Meghan. They really are not necessary and they will be able to live the lives that they prefer. Good for them & I think it will do them a world of good, depending upon which group of people they choose to spend their time with. I really hope they stay with the charitable foundations & stay away from the gossiping Hollywood crowd. I wish them peace!
Idk I see her as person whose never content with anything...do we all think they will move to Canada and live happily ever after... very doubtful... she will drive him insane JMO
I really don’t follow the royals... but just by seeing them together it looks like this is not how she wants to live and he probably is fine with it because he can’t stand the scrutiny... didn’t she understand what she
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No she didn’t understand what she signed up for. She said as much. No one could have predicted the press would write an article using a doctored photo of an image some other random person photoshopped, have the entire article be about the photoshopped version and then have the press refuse to take down the article when it was proven they had the wrong photo. So if you have to leave the Uk over things like that go for it. The Us and Canadian press are fair to them, which is all they asked for.
I agree. I feel many of the criticisms stem from them being funded as royals yet not exactly following royal traditions or protocols. This seems like a good compromise and I hope it brings them peace and the nastiness around them dies down.
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Exactly. I think they were in a have a cake and eat it too situation and this solves that. Royal funds are like shackles. It’s like borrowing money from family or having your parents pay your way. It doesn’t give you the same freedom to do what you want to do if it were just your money.
I think Harry will find earning his own way to be immensely satisfying. They are both educated with experience in all sorts of areas and he with lengthy military experience. He started his own somewhat complex charity and serves on various other charities. They are both well overqualified for a wide variety of lucrative careers.
Admin (#197), I don't think anyone could possibly get their mind around the intense international scrutiny Meghan has been subjected to. This isn't movie star/pop singer fame: it seems to be an entirely different animal. And with 2020's social media landscape and technological advances, it's light years from even the harsh spotlight Harry's mom endured.
I haven't followed the royals super closely, but I could see these new parents saying, "Screw it -- it's not worth it." Especially a young dad whose mother lost her life as a direct result of her fame.
I haven't followed the royals super closely, but I could see these new parents saying, "Screw it -- it's not worth it." Especially a young dad whose mother lost her life as a direct result of her fame.
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Exactly. It’s not worth it. I’m betting over the holidays they took a long hard look at all this and realized this isn’t the life their child should have to grow up in. And they’re right.
Stepping away, Kate. They did it. Are doing it. As have many who have come to the same conclusion on big and small levels, including Jon.
Article on blindgossip.com regarding Harry and Megan. I believe she is leading him astray and he will one day regret it. Megan invited Hillary to visit them for one reason and that was to learn how to set up her fund to pay her the most money. Just my opinion.
Word is they were removed by the queen herself.. Harry’s in therapy and he’s not happy and they’re already talking settlement... take it with a grain of salt... they weren’t together on their holiday and it’s a fact she’s been talking to the Obamas and Clinton’s to help her set up charities... sounds like she out of that family... she wants the perks but has no desire to follow the rules...
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